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From YouTube: 9-7-23 Plan & Zoning Commission
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Des Moines Plan & Zoning Commission meeting on Thursday, September 7, 2023.
View the agenda: https://DSM.city/PZatHome
A
A
Please
contact
the
city,
clerk
or
development
services
department
staff
for
details
on
Council
hearings.
Applicant
will
be
given
10
minutes
to
present
the
request
proponents.
Then
opponents
from
the
public
are
then
allowed
to
speak
in
that
order
with
each
speaker
allowed
a
maximum
of
five
minutes
applicant
is
then
allowed
five
minutes
for
a
rebuttal.
A
A
B
C
A
Need
to
abstain.
Do
we
need
to
do
the
call
again
Tyler
you
got
it.
Okay,
all
right,
I
will
now
read
through
the
consent
items,
one
by
one
number,
one:
a
request
from
Dorado
Perez
for
the
following
regarding
property
located
at
415,
East
Euclid,
Avenue
determination
as
to
whether
the
requested
rezoning
is
a
conformance
with
plan.
A
Dsm
amend
the
plan
DSM
to
revise
the
future
land
use,
classify
classification
from
low
density,
residential
to
Neighborhood
mixed
use,
rezone
the
property
from
N5
neighborhood
District
to
RX1
mixed
use,
District
to
bring
the
existing
retail
use
into
conformance
with
zoning
and
allow
the
use
of
the
parking
lot
for
a
food
truck.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
audience
here
tonight
who
would
like
to
move
this
item
to
the
public
hearing?
A
D
A
We
will
remove
item
number
two
and
hear
it
on
the
public
hearing
item
number
three:
requests
from
Walnut
Creek
Trails
LLC
for
for
the
following
regarding
property
located
at
1525
High
Street
determination
as
to
whether
the
requested
rezoning
is,
in
conformance
with
plan
DSM
to
rezone
the
property
from
RX1
mixed-use
District
to
MX2
mixed-use
District,
to
allow
expansion
of
an
existing
brewery
and
restaurant.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
audience
tonight?
Who
would
like
this
item
removed
and
heard
on
the
public
hearing
tonight
right.
A
Item
number
three
is
removed
from
the
consent
agenda
item
number
four
City
initiated
request
to
name
a
segment
of
13th
Street
between
Grand
Avenue
and
Locust
Street,
with
the
honorary
name
world
record
way.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
audience
tonight
who
would
like
this
pulled
from
the
consent
agenda
and
heard
in
the
public
hearing.
A
Okay,
saying
none
item
number
four
four
will
remain
on
the
consent.
Agenda
item
number:
five:
a
request
from
CS
Family
Properties
LLC
for
the
following
regarding
property
located
at
3001,
Southwest,
9th
Street
determination
as
to
whether
the
requested
rezoning
is
in
conformance
with
plan
DSM
and
to
rezone
the
property
from
RX1
mixed
use,
District
to
MX3
mixed
use,
District
to
allow
the
use
of
the
existing
building
for
a
vehicle
detailing
shop,
which
is
considered
to
be
a
vehicle
maintenance
repair
minor
use.
A
A
A
request
item
number
seven
is
a
request
from
Timothy
J
Urban
for
review
and
approval
of
a
public
hearing
site
plan,
T-Mobile
landscape
plan
for
property
located
at
4131
University
Avenue
for
a
type
2
design
alternative
to
allow
zero
percent
transparency
on
the
south
facade
and
22
percent
transparency
on
the
west
facade
where
a
minimum
70
percent
transparency
is
required.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
audience
who
would
like
this
pulled
from
consent
and
heard
on
public
hearing?
A
Okay?
Seeing
none
item
number
seven
will
remain
on
the
consent
agenda.
We
also
have
two
items
that
the
staff
says
can
move
to
consent,
so
I
will
read
those
and
find
out
if
anybody
would
like
to
keep
those
items
in
the
public
hearing
item
number:
eight:
a
request
from
electro
Management
Corp
for
review
and
approval
of
a
Second
Amendment
to
the
city.
Gateway
PUD
conceptual
plan
on
two
Parcels
located
in
the
vicinity
of
4240
Army
Post
Road,
to
allow
the
construction
of
a
new
Warehouse
spaces
and
two
parking
lots.
A
A
A
A
Item
number
11
can
also
move
to
the
consent,
according
to
staff
request
from
Olin
home
for
the
following
regarding
property
located
at
972
26th
Street
determination
as
to
whether
the
requested
rezoning
is,
in
conformance
with
plan
BSM,
to
amend
the
plan
DSM
to
revise
the
future
land,
use
classification
from
low
low
density
residential
to
low
to
medium
low
density
residential
and
to
rezone
the
property
from
N5
neighborhood
District
to
n5-2
Neighborhood
District.
To
allow
reuse
of
the
existing
structure
for
two
household
duplex
residential
use.
A
A
A
A
Thank
you.
We
also
have
an
item
on
the
agenda
that
would
like
to
be
continued
to
the
October
5th
meeting
of
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission.
It
is
item
number
nine,
a
request
from
the
airport
development
LC
presentations
for
review
and
approval
of
a
third
amendment
to
the
airport,
Commerce
Park
South
PUD
conceptual
plan
for
multiple
Parcels
located
in
the
vicinity
of
2400
gannet
Avenue,
to
allow
construction
of
flex
Warehouse
spaces
with
updated
parking
and
Landscaping
standards
and
to
allow
use
of
metal
as
a
building
material.
A
A
D
F
D
G
This
is
the
subject
property.
It's
located
on
the
south
side
of
Grand
Avenue,
just
southeast
of
the
intersection
with
the
63rd
Street.
It's
a
busy
Corridor
and
an
intersection
with
several
Highway
oriented
commercial
uses
in
the
vicinity.
There's
a
Walnut
Creek
to
the
west
and,
as
you
can
see
in
the
through
the
zoning
District
there's
some
f
flood
District
classification
based
on
the
100-year
FEMA
floodplain
designation
within
the
area.
This
is
a
subject
property.
G
It
has
a
it's
about
1.4
acre
in
size,
and
it
has
a
about
a
6
700
square
foot
existing
building
on
the
site.
These
are
some
street
view.
Pictures
of
the
existing
building.
This
was
previously
used
as
a
retail
use
and
is
expected
to
be
converted
into
a
restaurant
use.
Again.
This
is
another
view
of
the
subject:
property,
the
here's.
The
existing
building
parking
area
is
to
the
west
and
there's
open
land
and
vegetation
to
the
to
the
east.
G
The
applicant
has
an
approved
site
plan.
The
reason
the
applicant
is
before
you
for
a
rezoning
is
because
they
are
primarily
proposing
to
use
this
building
as
a
restaurant
use.
However,
they
are
also
going
to
serve
beer,
and,
as
a
result
of
that,
they
will
be
doing
some
minimal
amount
of
storage
as
well
as
Brewing
on
the
facility.
G
Therefore,
under
our
zoning
District,
that
would
be
classified
as
a
fabrication
and
production
use,
and
it
requires
a
rezoning
to
an
MX2
District
in
order
to
allow
that,
as
well
as
a
conditional
use
approval
in
order
to
be
able
to
serve
beer
in
that
location.
As
you
can
see,
this
is
the
approved
site
plan.
There
are
no
changes
to
the
existing
building
footprint.
G
The
the
new
thing
that
that's
being
proposed
is
an
outdoor
patio
area,
which
is
on
the
east
side,
there's
quite
a
bit
of
natural
Landscaping
proposed
over
here
and
there's
a
children's
play
area.
Some
of
that
encroaches
into
the
into
the
F
District,
but
most
of
that
is
just
the
landscaping
and
the
play
area.
None
of
the
patio
portion
as
well
then,
as
any
of
the
building
portions,
are
proposed
to
encroach
into
the
into
the
flood
District.
G
So
with
that
staff
believes
that
the
requested
rezoning
would
be
appropriate
for
this
particular
location.
It's
an
appropriate
use
so
long
as
the
applicant
follows
the
site
plan.
If
there's
any
proposal
to
change
any
of
the
design
and
Amendment
to
the
site,
plan
should
should
be
submitted
and
any
development
that
encroaches
into
the
into
the
F
floodplain
District
or
the
FEMA
designated
floodplain
area
we'll
have
to
comply
with
chapter
50,
which
includes
floodplain
regulations
pertaining
to
the
city's
code.
G
So
with
that
staff's
recommendation
is
approval
from
RX1
mixed
use,
mixed
use
and
F
District
MX2,
subject
to
the
condition
that
any
use
upon
the
property
shall
comply
with
chapter
50
of
the
of
the
municipal
code
relating
to
floodplain.
So
long
as
the
subject
property
is
within
the
FEMA
designated
floodplain.
G
The
applicant
conducted
a
neighborhood
meeting
as
is
required
for
all
rezonings.
As
you
can
see,
there
were
a
few
attendees
and
they
were
mostly
in
support
so
that
so
there
wasn't
any
particular
concerns
raised.
As
a
result
of
that,
as
you
can
see,
this
is
the
the
comment
card
that
we
received
in
opposition
is
from
the
property
owner
immediately
adjacent
to
the
to
the
subject:
property.
E
A
My
only
question
is
more
of
a
process
thing,
so
the
pictures
that
you
showed
of
The
Establishment
were
from
a
little
from
a
bit
ago,
because
I
know
that
it's
pretty
much
built
out
doesn't
look
at
all
like
that.
So
I'm,
just
wondering
sort
of
in
the
process
is
this
normally,
where
rezoning
would
happen
when
it's
well.
B
I
can
answer
that,
so
everything
about
the
use
is
allowed,
except
in
order
to
do
the
Brewing
and
then
the
wholesaling
of
that
beer,
that's
brewed
there.
They
need
to
get
a
conditional
use
and
in
order
to
get
the
conditional
use,
they
have
to
be
zoned
MX2.
So
if
the
rezoning
is
denied
tonight
or
by
Council,
they
could
still
do
the
restaurant
and
everything
that's
being
been
built.
So,
as
you
said,
the
it's
pretty
much
about
done.
B
G
Yes,
that
that
is
a
possibility.
The
reason
we
moved
away
from
that
idea
is
because
it's
in
order
to
do
that.
The
applicant
would
have
to
provide
a
legal
description
that
precisely
matches
that
boundary
and,
as
you
can
see,
it's
very
irregular,
and
so
it
would
they
would
have
to
go
through
a
detailed
survey
in
order
to
figure
out
the
exact
legal
description,
and
so
we
just
for
the
sake
of
efficiency.
B
B
So,
like
shiroshi
was
saying
in
order
to
rezone
a
property,
there
has
to
be
an
ordinance
that
rezones
that
property
and
the
ordinance
has
to
contain
the
specific
legal
description
right
and
given
the
boundaries
of
the
portion
that
zoned
RX1
versus
Zone
flood.
It
would
be
pretty
daunting
for
an
engineer
to
a
surveyor
to
draft
that
legal
description.
So
if
you
look
at
the
staff
recommendation
that
one
condition
we're
recommending
is
that
the
entire
site
comply
with
the.
I
G
A
G
B
A
A
J
Okay,
when
you
take
a
look
at
the
map
on
here,
you'll
notice,
the
floodway
area
is
the
Shaded
area
to
the
left
of
that
property,
where
it
cuts
out
and
in
that
property
is
naturally
plug
play
or
excuse
me
flood
away.
That's
where
water
flows,
when
Walnut
Creek
Rises
it
backs
up
behind
North,
Grand,
Avenue
and
then
flows
around
that
property,
creating
a
floodway
on
that
backside
about
up
to
where
Pizza
Hut
sits.
J
You
had
mentioned
that
as
far
as
diligence
concerned.
If
it's
not
in
floodway
it
is,
it
can
be.
Material
can
be
brought
in
and
and
raised,
I
think
to
the
concern
that
if
you
start
taking
the
flood
off
something
that
is
definitely
FEMA
says
his
blood
way,
you
can
talk
to
the
state,
geologists,
Keith
Schilling
and
what
his
comments
on
that
would
be,
but
I
think
you're
setting
a
dangerous
precedent
for
everybody
else.
I
mean
I've
got
a
lot
of
property
down
there
and
I.
J
J
B
Right
right,
the
the
green
area
is
the
100
Year
FEMA
designated
floodplain
and
you're
right.
That
FEMA
does
allow
people
to
bring
in
fill,
but
they
would
have
to
do
a
FEMA
map
Revision.
In
order
to
have
the
official
map
amended
to
take
it
out
of
the
flood
plain.
So
the
action
tonight
would
take
the
flood
District,
the
flood
zoning
off
of
the
property,
but
the
FEMA
designated
100-year
floodplains.
J
J
E
A
G
G
This
is
the
property
on
the
subject:
property
north
side
of
High
Street.
This
is
The
Tap,
Room,
slash,
restaurant,
that's
referred
to
as
Lua
Brewery.
They
have
been
in
existence
for
a
while.
They
are
proposing
an
expansion
of
their
cooler
space,
which
is
why
they're
here
before
you
to
seek
a
rezoning
I
have
some
pictures
of
the
site,
and
this
is
the
building.
They
have
an
outdoor
patio,
slash
parking
area
to
the
to
the
east
of
the
of
the
building.
G
This
is
a
site
plan
that
was
submitted
and
kind
of
shows
the
layout
of
the
of
the
Restaurant
and
Brewery.
So
the
restaurant
Pier
outdoor
seating,
the
production
storage
area,
is
to
the
to
the
back,
which
is
the
north
side,
and
these
are
some
more
illustrations:
here's
the
plan,
and
so
as
I
as
I
mentioned.
This
is
this:
is
an
existing
restaurant.
G
They
were
previously
within
the
they're.
Currently
in
the
RX1
district
and
the
the
tap
the
tap
room
and
restaurant
use
is
a
legal
non-conforming
use
within
the
RX1
district,
and
so
they
they
need
to
reason
to
allow
that
expansion
as
well
as
to
bring
their
use
to
conformance,
which
is
why
they
are
seeking
the
rezoning
to
to
MX2.
So
with
that
staff
thinks
that
this.
G
This
request
is,
in
conformance
with
the
land
use
plan
and
the
users
in
the
area,
so
long
as
they
comply
with
all
the
chapter
135
regulations
and
as
long
as
they
seek
a
conditional
use
for
the
the
fabrication
and
production
use,
which
is
the
brewery
use
in
addition
to
the
restaurant.
So
with
that
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
the
of
the
reasoning
request
to
MX2
the
applicant
conducted
a
neighborhood
meeting.
As
for
for
this
item-
and
here
is
a
summary
letter
that
was
sent
out.
G
G
I
would,
from
from
the
site
plan
that
was
I'm
assuming
after
the
the
rezoning
occurs,
they
would
submit
an
amendment
to
the
site
plan,
which
would
which
would
show
the
details,
but,
as
you
can
see
back
here
is
the
is
the
cold
storage
room
which
is
can
to
orient
you.
This
would
be
on
the
north
side
of
the
building
to
the
back.
E
G
And
this
is
this
is,
and
I
should
probably
clarify.
This
is
the
existing
site
plan.
The
amended
site
plan
would
be
submitted
following
the
rezoning,
which
would
show
which
would
show
the
Edition,
but
based
on
where
their
current
storage
area
is.
It
would
probably
be
in
the
back
where
they
have
their
existing
production
and
storage
area.
H
A
A
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
commission
good
evening,
Michael
Delp
planning
staff
here
to
present
item
10.
for
the
property
at
1900
Arlington.
They
have
two
requests
to
revise
their
future
land
use
classification
from
low
medium
density,
residential
to
high
density
residential
and
to
rezone
the
property
from
N5
neighborhood
District
to
nx1
mixed
mixed
youth
District
to
allow
for
the
ReUse
of
the
existing
structure
or
multiple
household
residents
use
within
the
property.
Currently
with
seven
dwelling
units.
M
Here
is
the
subject
property.
It
contains
an
existing
two
and
a
half
story
house
that
was
built
in
1906
there's
currently
4
153
square
feet.
It's
a
total
living
area
within
the
building.
The
total
Site
Area
is
about
709
7990
feeds,
0.183,
Acres,
so
kind
of
a
small
site.
Here,
the
previous
user
of
the
property
had
non-conforming
rights
just
until
last
year,
with
the
expiration
of
the
last
rental
certificates.
Those
non-con
non-conforming
rights
to
having
seven
units
within
the
building
ended
last
year.
M
M
M
From
the
staff
perspective
on
this
one,
just
to
give
the
commission
a
little
bit
of
context
for
the
density,
the
low
medium
density,
residential,
that's
the
that's
the
destination,
designation
that
the
property
currently
has.
This
wouldn't
allow
for
more
than
two
units
on
site.
It
would
only
allow
for
two
units
for
the
high
density
residential
that
they're
requesting
to
be
reclassified,
as
that
would
allow
for
over
four
units.
M
So
five
units
plus
on-site,
the
the
subject
property-
is
located
generally
in
a
very
walkable
neighborhood,
higher
density,
there's
a
mix
of
lower
density,
and
there
are
the
two.
But
it's
it's
a
pretty
big
mix
of
different
housing
types
within
their
housing
types
that
are
pretty
close
to
the
request.
Also
they're
in
close
proximity
to
Dart
Transit
routes,
they're
within
0.14
miles
of
a
dart
Transit
routes
and
Community
nodes,
where
our
land
use
plan
wants
to
focus
more
Redevelopment
and
getting
some
of
this
missing
metal
housing
into
neighborhoods.
M
That's
kind
of
where
we're
at
from
stat
perspective,
it
accomplishes
our
land
use
goals
to
get
more
density,
use
existing
infrastructure
and
get
a
wider
range
of
housing
within
these
neighborhoods
and
just
helping
with
that
housing
stock.
However,
just
looking
at
the
existing
sites,
it
is
a
pretty
tight
location
and
there
isn't
much
room
for
expansion
of
parking
spaces.
They
have
current
current
room
for
five
parking
spaces.
Just
on
the
south
end
I
can
bring
up
one
of
these
sheets
again.
B
M
Thanks
Bert
for
staff
recommendation
staff
recommends
that
the
requested
nx1
District
be
found,
not
in
conformance
with
the
existing
plan
to
sample
future
land
use,
designation
of
low
medium
density,
residential
Stafford
men's
approval.
The
request
to
men
plan
to
exam,
creating
our
tomorrow
comprehensive
plan
to
revise
the
future
land
use
destination
from
low
medium
density.
Residential
to
high
density
residential
staff
recommends
approval
of
the
requested
request
to
rezone
the
property
from
N5
neighborhood
District
to
nx1
Neighborhood
mixed
District,
subject
to
the
property
containing
no
more
than
five
dwelling
units.
C
N
O
P
M
I
think
it
was
tied
to
the
available
parking
that
they
could
provide
on
site
to
ease
congestion
for
the
surrounding
properties.
I
know
some
of
the
comments
had
talked
about
traffic
increases
in
traffic
and
congestion
within
the
neighborhood.
It
also
matches
a
lot
of
the
surrounding
properties
for
the
units
they're
in
the
four
to
five
range,
just
adjacent
to
the
property,
so
I
think
that's
how
we
came
around
to
that
number.
With
the
densities
too,
for
the
land
class
Lane,
just
classification,
it's
kind
of
spectrum,
with
this
small
of
a
property
too.
B
D
E
Q
K
B
K
Q
R
L
S
Yeah
I'm
gonna
introduce
myself
first
Becky
Hugh,
part
owner
of
Starling
LLC
and
I
have
a
presentation
to
have
here
as
well:
I
live
at
112,
10th,
Street,
Des,
Moines,
50314
and
I
think
tonight's
going
to
be
the
most
exciting
presentation,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
people
here.
That
is
descending
and
it's
a
slightly
controversial
one.
So
let
me
let
me
start
right
here
so
I'm
part
of
Credo
Capital
as
well,
and
we're
just
under
100
unit
owner
in
Des,
Moines
I
live
here.
S
I
work
for
a
you
know,
a
w,
my
W-2
jobs
with
a
Fortune
500
company
in
Des
Moines,
and
we
have
local
maintenance,
men
and
an
asset
manager
that
we
hire
full-time
to
take
care
of
our
properties
and
and
one
of
them
is
present
today.
So
we
have
a
you
know,
vision
of
we're
trying
to.
We
only
manage
what
we
own,
because
we
do
not
really
believe
in
third
party
management,
as
a
lot
of
people
know
the
reputation
of
property
management
companies
in
Iowa
managing
third-party
properties.
S
S
We
hired
Zach
as
well,
who
is
our
property
maintenance
as
of
this
year,
because
we
were
Contracting,
the
workout
and
contracted
work
out.
Is
it's
not
the
best
in
the
best
interest
of
property
as
well,
so
we're
paying
payroll
competitive
payer
for
two
full-time
employees,
because
we
felt
it
was
important
for
us.
S
S
We've
been
doing
it
for
10
years
in
the
Drake
neighborhood,
specifically
I
want
to
drink,
live
there,
see
the
change,
that's
happened
over
time
and
we've
only
sold
three
properties
to
date,
two
single
families
and
then
a
recent
12
unit
in
a
different
neighborhood,
but
we've
always
had
the
long-term
mentality
with
holding
out
units
share
some
examples
of
before
and
after
this
is
on
University.
This
is
kind
of
the
condition
we
bought
it.
In
is
what
we
do.
We
turn
it
around.
We
rent
it
out.
S
S
So
what
happened
here
so
we
became
owners
in
April
of
22.
We
bought
1900
Arlington
the
subject
matter:
property
as
a
seven
Plex.
The
rental
received
was
a
seven
Plex
and
I
felt
there
was
some
Maybe
miscommunication
between
the
broker
and
us.
It
was
a
property,
a
portfolio,
it's
part
of
a
16
unit
portfolio,
so
the
property
is
next
door
to
it.
We
own
it
as
well.
S
S
So
we
start
moving
out
of
Drake
and
and
certain
areas
close
to
the
trade,
because
the
profit
margins
were
not
there.
As
we
all
know,
Drake
became
a
lot
more
expensive
to
buy,
so
we
moved
into
the
river
bend
neighborhood
and
with
two
other
properties
there
as
well
besides
this
one,
but
this
has
been
the
most
challenging
property
that
we've
bought.
It
was
in
Bank
receivership
when
we
bought
it.
S
So
we
found
it
very
challenging,
came
with
tenants
that
were
not
a
good
fit.
Some
people
in
this
crowd
live
opposite.
They
can
vouch
on
just
the
amount
of
noise
pollution
and
and
just
lease
violations
that
these
occupiers
were,
you
know
just
being
difficult
with,
and
then
we
found
out
just
three
months
ago
when
we
finally
evicted
The
Last
Tenant
in
1900
that
that
we
lost
it
defaults
back
to
a
single
family
but
Our
intention
when
we
bought
it
was
seven
units
and
everything
showed
seven
units
when
we
bought
it.
S
So
we
want
to
just
talk
about
this
us
we
have
with
local
management.
We
manage
what
we
own
and
what's
interesting,
we
did
some
statistics
as
well.
The
average
rent
across
our
properties
is
780
bucks
a
month
which
is
for
a
single
person.
You
just
need
to
earn
less
than
three
thirty
thousand
a
year
using
a
three
times:
income
requirement
to
qualify
to
live
in
NL
properties
and
the
demographic
profile
of
the
people.
S
Here
are
likely
going
to
be
single
people,
most
likely,
perhaps
a
couple,
maybe
with
a
dog
and
people
that
just
want
a
quiet
and
safe
space
and
our
tenancy
is
very
diverse,
which
is
interesting.
One-Third
are
white
and
the
rest
are
people
of
color
with
a
high
quality
of
10
relationship
as
well.
We
try
to
respond
to
messages
within
24
hours,
with
a
good
reputation
with
the
city
staff,
especially
Neighborhood
Rental
inspectors.
S
Jason
winner
was
the
guy
before
this
and
then
now
is
Keith
brings
and
you
can
check
in
with
them
as
to
our
reputation
with
the
city
and
we've
been
trying
to
make
neighborhoods
safer
through
just
better
living
conditions
and
here's
the
math.
So
if
we
keep
it
the
seven
blacks,
the
rehab
span
is
already
140,
which
is
100
000
over
budget.
Already,
it's
given
the
different
complexities
with
the
egress
and
the
porches
and
reconfiguration
of
the
inside.
It's
in
really
dire
shape.
S
If
we
were
to
rezone
it's
a
five
Plex,
it's
going
to
be
probably
50,
plus
K
more
to
reconfigure
the
walls.
You
know
maybe
get
certain
things
in
place
and
they'll
be
a
valuation
drop
of
a
hundred
thousand
just
because
of
the
cap
cap
rate
methodology
because
you
have
less
income
divided
by
the
same
cap
rate
denominator,
you're
going
to
get
100K
just
knocked
off.
The
value
is
of
the
building
I
work
in
real
estate
as
a
job.
S
S
S
Here's
some
pictures
of
acquisition.
It
looks
a
lot
worse
than
this,
because
the
tenants
you
know
they
covered
it
up,
but
here's
what
it
looks
like
with
all
the
junk
removed,
there's
little
or
no
historical
preservation
in
there
it's
been
converted
since
World
War
II.
It's
nothing,
really
historical
preserved
in
these
units.
S
Here's
how
it
looks
like
right
now,
the
bottom
floor
units
with
those
tenants
that
got
evicted
here
is
the
two
units
of
avoidance
above
that
we've
already
done.
Work
too,
and
this
is
1908,
which
is
a
different
property.
Just
north
of
this,
it's
a
Triplex.
There
was
a
conditional
units
inside
now
they
are
like
that
and
it's
fully
rehabbed
and
it's
leased
out
to
three
qualified
tenants
that
that
live
there
right
now.
S
This
is
the
five
unit,
that's
two
doors
down
before,
and
this
is
how
we
staged
this
one
after
some
more
pictures-
and
this
is
a
property-
that's
1621,
9th
Street,
it's
in
the
Riverbend
District.
This
is
the
before
pictures
after
1908
is
also
in
Riverbend
District
single
family
home.
Before
after
so
here,
I
mean
we
talked
about
the
city
you
know
gave
about
gave,
gave
a.
You
know
reason
why
this
should
be.
S
You
know
kept
as
a
five
I
mean
we're
trying
to
go
for
seven
because
we
bought
as
a
seven,
but
it's
very
walkable.
It
has
many
things
surrounding
it:
the
central
Trails
initiative,
the
bus
route
and
sixth
Corridor,
the
YMCA
is
being
revamped.
We
know
what's
happening
in
the
neighborhood,
here's
just
a
clearer
picture
of
it.
So
we're
five
five
spots
right
now,
but
to
Chris
point
I
mean
we're
willing
to
do
a
traffic
study
to
see
even
whether
this
is
obstructing
any
traffic.
S
There
is
opportunity
for
street
parking
for
at
least
two
more
cars,
because
I
parked
there
many
times
as
well,
and
we
own
those
three
properties
right
next
to
it.
That
whole
plot
belongs
to
us
as
an
apartment
building
across
the
street.
It's
apartment,
building
right
there
on
the
south
side
of
Franklin
Avenue
as
well.
S
K
T
Oh,
my
name
is
Michael
Whaler
with
Oracle
Consulting
I'm,
a
Consulting
engineer
for
starlink.
We
understand
that
this
rezoning
will
trigger
the
site
plan
ordinance
and
so
we're
not
really
voting
on
any
site
plans
or
anything
tonight.
But
if
it
were
to
be
rezoned
and
we
were
to
move
on
to
the
site
plan,
ordinance
I
would
do
a
full
site
plan
to
come
up
to
chapter
135,
all
Landscaping
bulk
regulations
parking.
T
T
So
in
your
consideration
of
the
request
for
seven
five
or
what
what
we
do
to
rezone
this
just
know
that
we
will
have
to
again
come
in
front
of
staff
and
show
that
everything
is
conforming
chapter
135
and
that
we're
with
a
site
plan
that,
as
a
professional
engineer,
I,
will
sign
and
make
sure
Ada
and
theraflict
their
Affairs
for
the
Ada
are
all
workable
and
walkability
the
sidewalks
all
the
things
that
staff
normally
makes
us
do.
We
will
address
those
because
resorting
ordinance
the
rezoning
will
trigger
the
site
plan
ordinance.
So.
S
E
Sure,
well,
the
reason
I
ask
is
right:
across
the
street
the
multi-family
there
were
three
bikes
parked
there
yesterday
or
the
day
before
outside
and
that's
fine
in
the
summer.
If
you
live
there,
but
if
you,
if
you
bike
in
the
winter,
you
don't
want
to
park
your
bike
outside
so
I'm
wondering
if
you
can
be
maybe
proactive
on
the
bike
thing
a
little
bit
more
bike
friendly.
If
you
provide
a
secure,
Bike
Room
in
the
basement,
absolutely.
O
S
We
bought
it
thinking
we
just
needed
to
get
the
rental
certificate
back
in
order,
but
then,
through
that
process
we
found
out
that
we
had
to
be
a
pause
because
it
defaults
back
to
a
single
family.
Eric
Lundy
was
involved
yeah,
so
he
generated
a
zoning
termination
letter
during
that
time
and
he
determined
that
it
reverted
back
to
single
family
because
of
a
lab's
rental
certificate
that
was
lapsed
before
our
ownership.
We
didn't
find
out
until
later.
S
So
this
is
my
first
rodeo
standing
in
front
of
all
of
you,
because
we
always
buy
properties
with
current
rental
certificates
and
I've
learned.
My
lesson
absolutely
and-
and
this
is
scary
in
a
sense
that
it
is
an
economic
decision.
The
the
Riverbend
neighbors
here
are
very,
very
passionate
about
their
neighborhood
I've
spoken
to
them
in
a
neighborhood
meeting
setting
for
over
two
hours
answering
their
questions.
S
So
they've
heard
this
pitch
before
I
attended
the
neighborhood
association
meeting
that
was
last
week
and
I
can
see
just
the
future
of
Riverbend
being
a
really
great
neighborhood
because
of
such
passionate
and
evolved
people.
So
I
see
a
great
future
for
this
area
for
sure.
Given
all
the
initiatives
happening,
Sixth
Avenue
corridor,
we
own
a
building,
that's
on
Main
Street.
We
see
the
change
is
opposite
a
correctional
facility
and
it's
quiet
there.
S
N
N
S
N
You
did
you
request
of
the
city,
any
information
about
that,
since
you
were
planning
on
doing
a
major
Rehab
on
the
building.
When
you
you
know,
when
you
took
title
to
the
building,
did
you
inquire
in
the
city
what
the
status
of
the
building
is
I'm
asking
because
it
you
know
it's
it's.
It
is
a
reflection.
S
Yeah,
so
I
I
literally,
did
not
know
that
a
lab's
rental
certificate
triggers
a
rezoning
like
in
a
drake
neighborhood.
It's
maybe
it
was
enacted
in
the
last
couple
years,
we're
not
sure,
but
we've
always
bought
something
with
a
rental
certificate.
That's
active
and
that's
a
big
lesson
learned,
because
normally
that
does
trigger
some
zoning
issue,
which
we
found
out.
Unfortunately,
in
this
case,
so
we
never
had
that
issue
come
because
that's
a
question
that
people
have
asked
me
is
like:
why
didn't
you
do
that
I'm
like?
Well,
we
didn't.
S
S
I
I
E
S
Mean
we
do
have
a
mix
in
our
current
100
units.
We
have.
We
don't
seek
that
out
per
se
to
be
candid,
but
if
it
came,
if
the
tenants
came
with
the
building
at
Section
8
time
with
a
couple
of
Section
8
tenants
right
now-
and
there
are
different
regulations
with
having
Section
8
tenants
right
as
long
as
they
adhere
to
a
lease
agreement
and
maintain
peace,
we're
okay,
keeping
them
absolutely
is
101
one
bed,
one
bath
per
unit,
all
of
them
seven
units
correct.
S
Yeah,
so
the
one
next
door
is
315.
Franklin
is
a
single
family.
It's
a
three
bed
one
and
a
half
bath.
It's
a
family
of
I
think
four
lives
there.
They
came
with
a
building,
we've
kept
them
with
the
building
just
to
help
with
cash
flow,
because
1900
has
been
on
the
tennis
that
came
with.
It
has
been
paying
zero
rent
since
we
bought
the
building
in
April.
S
S
We
had
a
BB
gun
issue
where
the
tenant
that
was
in
1900
apparently
moved
across
the
street
and
suddenly,
all
of
a
sudden,
our
Windows
start
getting
broken
by
BB
gunshots
and
the
police
cannot
do
anything
about
it.
It
was
vacant
and
now
we're
getting
at
least
about
the
two
units
at
the
bottom
is
getting
leased
out
and
the
three
units
above
hopefully
be
leased
out,
and
it's
also
a
price
issue
like
we're
trying
to
charge.
You
know
low
700
per
unit,
but
the
neighborhood
somehow
doesn't
command
that
kind
of
rents.
U
Q
Q
S
L
L
V
Good
evening
Madam,
chair
and
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Chad
Nelson
I
live
at
1236,
9th
Street
in
the
Riverbend
neighborhood
and
not
for
nothing.
It
was
seven
apartments
and
it's
been
converted
into
a
single
family.
Home
I
am
here
on
behalf
of
the
Riverbend
neighborhood
association
of
which
I
am
a
board
member.
We
have
written
a
letter
and
I
will
read
that
letter.
It
was
a
presentation
earlier
from
the
staff
I
just
pull
it
up.
V
Am
I?
Okay
proceed?
Oh
thank
you,
madam
chair.
The
Riverbend
neighborhood
association
is
opposed
to
rezoning
the
house
at
1900
Arlington
to
nx1.
This
is
a
decision
we
have
come
to
after
many
discussions
with
the
property
owners,
our
neighbors
and
among
our
board.
We
firmly
believe
that
the
zoning
ordinances
ordinances
were
put
in
place
for
a
reason
and
urge
you
not
to
go
against
the
City
Des
Moines
municipal
code
and
the
plan
DSM
comprehensive
plan
for
decades.
V
V
This
is
the
reason
the
zoning
ordinances
in
neighborhood
districts
that
exist
now
were
established
after
countless
hours
of
discussion
and
planning
put
in
by
so
many,
including
residents
of
Riverbend.
The
area
in
question
is
already
supporting
a
number
of
multi-family
homes
and
apartments
and
has,
in
recent
past,
been
an
area
of
concern.
While
it
is
important
to
have
housing
stock
clustering,
this
much
density
in
an
area
that
was
not
created
to
support
that
density
only
causes
issues
in
a
neighborhood
struggling
to
achieve
the
kind
of
success
that
is
easier
in
low
density.
V
V
We
are
not
opposed
to
medium
and
high
density
housing
where
appropriate.
As
an
association,
we
have
a
history
of
supporting
high
density
developments
and
look
forward
to
how
both
new
and
restoration
projects
on
our
Sixth
Avenue
Corridor
will
bring
residents
to
our
neighborhood
and
Foster
business
growth.
V
Furthermore,
there
are
other
properties
in
this
neighborhood
that
were
designed
and
built
for
multi-family
use.
Some
of
these
units
sit
on
the
public
nuisance
property
list
awaiting
rehabilitation.
We
believe
the
neighborhood
would
benefit
more
if
developers
developers
Focus
their
efforts
on
these
properties.
Please
do
not
make
the
neighborhood
bear
the
responsibility
for
the
errors
of
landlords
and
corporations.
Riverbend
neighbors
urge
you
to
maintain
the
very
purposeful
and
reasonable
N5
zoning
and
1900
Arlington.
Thank
you.
K
V
V
In
my
opinion,
as
a
resident
of
the
neighborhood,
not
as
a
board
member,
no
I
am
a
preservationist
I
sit
on
the
historic
preservation.
Commission
I
believe
that
a
single
family
home
that
was
built
as
a
single
family
home
needs
to
maintain
itself
as
a
single
family
home,
especially
in
the
neighborhood.
It
sits
in
historic
district.
It
is
a
contributing
structure
to
the
historic
district.
I
think
it
needs
to
go
back
to
single
family.
Okay,.
K
K
V
Increasing
Equity
not
only
means
providing
low-income
houses,
it
means
providing
housing
for
everybody.
So
having
a
diverse
economic
neighborhood,
you
know,
people
from
varying
stratifications
of
income
is
just
as
important
as
focusing
on
any
one
particular
group
of
income.
We
have
you,
know
plenty
of
houses
and
apartment
complexes
that
can
host
a
wide
variety
of
income
sources.
So
this
house
is
just
should
be
a
house.
V
O
K
Not
arguing
that
point
I'm
just
curious
if
the
position
is
that
there's
no
landlord
is
appropriate
for
this
number
one
and
number
two
that
we're
saying
that
you
know
the
red
lining
issue.
As
I
understood,
it
was
preventing
individuals
of
certain
types
from
being
able
to
achieve
access
to
a
house,
and
now
we're
saying
I'm
going
to
have
to
have
a
massive
amount
of
money
to
convert
this
house
I'm,
not
sure
I,
see
the
logic
there
of
how
this
is.
Writing
the
wrong
of
a
redlining,
ill
I.
K
V
L
L
F
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Diana
rizak
and
I
live
at
1917
Arlington.
So
every
day,
I
look
at
this
property,
which
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
look
at
a
vacant
stool
sitting
out
in
the
yard
for
days
and
days.
I
am
not
in
favor
of
this
property.
Changing
I
believe
this
area
of
the
neighborhood
is
saturated.
With
rental.
From
my
driveway
I
could
look
at
1824
Arlington,
which
was
originally
built
as
a
one
family.
It
now
holds
two
then
there's
1900,
which
they
want
to
make.
Seven
1908
was
originally
built
as
a
one
family.
F
F
If
you
approve
seven,
those
four
houses
will
hold
16
units
that
16
people,
at
least,
let's
face
it
in
Des,
Moines
Iowa
to
have
most
jobs.
You
have
to
have
a
car,
so
there's
parking,
there's
litter,
there's
traffic
and
if
you're
not
aware
on
Arlington,
you
go
from
sixth
to
Second
Avenue
and
we
are
cut
through
as
far
as
traffic
there's
traffic
problems,
the
last
property
when
it
was
seven,
a
couple
of
the
residents
were
always
parking
on
the
street
I
believe
in
low-income
housing.
F
I
worked
in
the
non-profit
world
for
over
10
years
for
NFC
and
for
Home
Inc,
both
of
which
provide
low
income,
housing
and
housing
that
was
accepted
by
our
neighborhood.
We
are
not
against
low-income
housing,
but
we
do
want
to
have
a
neighborhood
we're
proud
of,
and
so
that
is
why
I.
Thank
you
for
the
time.
Any
questions.
K
F
Don't
know
that
the
parking
has
been
the
way
it
has
been.
I
will
tell
you
that
the
light
pole
in
front
of
my
house
has
been
knocked
out
three
times
by
drunk
driving
people
speed
through
there,
especially
at
night,
and
the
way
the
property
is
set
up.
Now
it's
set
up
for
five
spaces,
but
sometimes
you
have
a
couple
that
both
have
cars
and
you
don't
have
enough
parking
there.
K
K
N
K
F
F
F
L
W
W
I
guess
I
can
do
that
after
the
fact
and
then
I
moved
to
RiverBend
in
October
of
2021
by
choice
because
I
wanted
a
house
with
old
character
and
it
was
the
most
house
I
could
get
for
what
I
could
afford
and
then,
when
I
look
at
the
land
use
goal
number
two
for
plan
DSM.
It
talks
about
direct
new
growth
and
Redevelopment
to
areas
with
existing
infrastructure,
so
on
and
so
forth.
W
I
sort
of
see
that
as
me
and
not
just
another
plug
and
play
landlord,
that's
going
to
maintain
the
property
just
to
get
by
the
exterior
pictures
we
looked
at
earlier
are
current
and
as
of
yet
there's
no
major
plans
to
do
anything
to
the
exterior,
which
is
true
of
almost
all
rentals
there.
Because
of
the
historical
neighborhood
aspects
we
have
where
you
have
to
go
in
front
of
the
board
to
get
those
approved.
So
a
lot
of
absentee
landlords
are
just
landlords
in
general.
W
Don't
do
a
whole
lot,
those
that
care
about
the
neighborhood
do
an
absent,
seeing
that
it
just
doesn't
feel
currently
like.
There's
anything
a
landlord
could
say
to
me,
but
I'm,
not
saying
no
I
think
that,
yes,
there
could
be
something
that
could
be
said
to
convince
me
that
you
know
this
could
remain
a
rental,
but
as
as
of
right
now,
I
don't
think
it
should
I
think
it
should
be
a
single
family.
Thank
you.
L
D
U
B
Sure
what
this
site
plan
the
site
plan
really
is
going
to
look
more
at
the
site:
layouts
like
off
street
parking,
sidewalks
Landscaping
screening,
dumpster
enclosures
things
like
that.
But
this
is
in
the
Riverbend
local
historic
district.
So
any
external
modifications
will
have
to
meet
the
design
standards
for
a
local,
historic
district.
So.
W
If
any
windows
need
to
be
replaced,
they
need
to
be
done.
Wood
windows.
You
can't
replace
with
vinyl
things
like
that.
So
there's
a
number
of
things
that
in
looking
at
those
pictures
that
it
would
be
nice
to
see
somebody
that
you
know
takes
care
of
the
property
likes
the
neighborhood.
That
sort
of
thing
would
make
those
improvements,
but
a
lot
of
times
with
landlords.
We
don't
see
that
so
yeah
and
then
to
comment
on
the
off
street
parking.
W
Sorry
Sterling
owns
that
you
know
that
triangle
of
three
properties,
which
are
rentals,
there's
people
park
in
the
driveway
and
on
the
street
1920
I
believe,
is
a
rental.
You
can
see.
There's
a
duplex
1924
1926
both
have
cars
on
the
street.
1930S
a
rental
has
cars
on
the
street
1934.
It's
me,
you
can
see.
I
have
three
cars
in
my
driveway
now
I
have
a
couple
on
the
street,
so
there's
just
not
room
by
the
amount
of
people
that
park
on
the
street
you're,
seeing
a
pretty
light
day
today.
In
this
aerial
view,.
I
This
is
a
softball,
probably
so
the
other
ones
that
they
own
the
1924
and
1920.
The
three
that
you
mentioned
are
you
other
than
that
parking
that
you
just
talked
about?
Are
there
any
issues
with
those
that
you
know
are
screaming
at
you
like?
Are
they
not
keeping
up
with
your
standards,
or
can
you
elaborate
as.
W
W
W
The
fire
escape
is
rather
rickety,
but
that'll
be
part
of
the
site
plan
that
will
get
addressed
so
I'm
not
worried
about
that
long
term.
There
have
been
some.
There
was
a
white
picket
fence
around
here
that
was
removed
and
there
has
been
some
curb
appeal
things
done
there,
but
as
far
as
just
the
exterior
of
the
house,
you
know
it's
another
year
older
I
mean
these
homes
were
built,
turn
into
Century.
So
there's
sometimes
there's
slapped
on
metal
siding.
But
if
any
of
that
fails
sort
of
is
what
it
is.
X
But
the
big
thing
that
I
noticed
out
of
the
presentation
is
keeping
Ops
lean.
They
left
Drake
because
the
profit
margins
weren't
there,
one
of
the
slides
was,
do
the
math.
It's
all
math,
based
that
that
bothers
me
that
there's
no
mention
of
neighbors
it's
it's
all
math,
it's
all
Financial
which,
as
a
bit
as
a
corporation,
that's
what
you
do,
but
that
that
causes
me
pause.
X
X
It's
4,
500
square
foot,
I,
converted
it
from
eight
units
to
single
family,
also
Reviving
properties,
I've
invested
in
my
neighborhood
in
2013
I
bought
the
five
Plex
that
was
designed
built
maintained
as
a
multi-family.
It's
right
on
the
corner
of
Franklin
and
Oakland
I've
renovated
or
partnered
with
the
renovation
on
seven
houses
in
Riverbend.
X
X
X
My
time
on
the
board,
we
have
been
working
towards
a
healthy
mix
of
Housing
and
a
healthy
mix
of
businesses
and
services.
I
guess
riding
the
wrongs
of
past
decisions
to
locate
a
lot
of
Social
Services
and
a
lot
of
affordable
housing
in
the
neighborhood.
So
we've
been
working
on
that
for
the
15
years,
I've
been
there
a
lot
of
times
we
get
accused
of
not
in
my
backyard.
X
Well,
our
backyard
is
full,
so
we're
just
requesting
that
more
of
that
gets
Spread
spread
around
and
we've
actually
had
three
requests
this
week
for
different
things
on
Sixth
Avenue
that
would
have
there
would
be
new,
builds
or
Renovations
with
multi-units
and
affordable
housing
in
it,
so
we're
not
against
affordable
housing
or
density,
we're
against
density,
where
density
is
too
dense.
So
we
are
in
favor
of
that
and
we're
voting
on
that
as
a
board
and
as
residents
the
bottom
line,
as
we
said
before,
we're
not
rezoning
this
for
Starling.
X
I,
haven't
heard
good
a
compelling
reason,
besides
the
applicant's
bottom
line,
to
convert
it,
I'm,
hoping
that
they,
as
well
as
the
commission
partner
with
the
neighbors
and
neighborhood
association
and
don't
Grant
the
rezoning
I
did
see
where
there
was
a
talk
of
five
units.
Nobody
is
considered
five.
We
were
presented
with
seven
and
we
say
no
to
seven.
X
If
we
want
to
talk
about
smaller
numbers,
I
think
it's
important
to
wait,
get
the
input
from
the
neighbors
that
aren't
here
and
get
input
from
the
Riverbend
board
to
see
if
there's
a
number
besides
seven
and
one
that
works
for
the
majority.
Thank
you.
Oh
final
thing.
Parking
Arlington
is
a
snow
route
and
in
the
neighborhood
there's
no
parking
on
the
streets
whenever
it
snows
so
I,
don't
know
300
days
out
of
the
Year
parking's
fine
or
in
other
people's
opinions
it's
crowded,
but
during
the
snow
event,
there's
no
parking
on
the
streets.
N
K
X
R
I
do
also
serve
on
the
historic
preservation
commission,
and
so
we
do
see
properties
in
this
area
come
through
with
requests.
I
am
a
strong
supporter
of
additional
density
in
our
neighborhood
I've
fought
really
hard
to
bring
in
projects
that
will
that
will
do
that
and
advocated
those
for
those
projects
when
it
is
well
planned
and
well
designed.
This
is
neither
right
now.
1900
Arlington
did
start
as
a
single
family
home
I
am
no
great
lover
of
single
family
homes.
I
think
there
are
other
options.
I
would
like
to
find
those
other
options.
R
As
Mike
said
tonight,
we
were
asked
to
to
support
either
seven
or
single
family.
We
weren't
asked
we
weren't
presented
with
any
other
options.
We
know
from
years
of
research
that
owners
of
single-family
homes
in
the
neighborhood,
often
rented
out
rooms
or
floors
essentially
akin
to
today's
accessory
dwelling
units
and
I,
will
advocate
for
adus
until
I
am
blue
in
the
face.
They
are
fantastic
and
important
for
our
neighborhoods.
R
This
property,
however,
took
a
different
path
due
to
lack
of
Regulation
and
City
oversight
decades,
before
no
no
City
staff
sitting
in
this
room,
there
were
choices
that
were
made
over
the
years
that
impacted
the
historic
Integrity
of
this
property
and
how
it
relates
to
the
properties
around
it
and
that
allowed
numerous
I'm
going
to
say
it
monstrous
and
ugly
additions
to
the
exterior
over
the
decades,
and
eventually
we
were
left
with
this
seven
unit.
Behemoth
that
has
been
a
nuisance
for
years.
I
live
right
down
the
street.
It
has
absolutely
been
a
nuisance.
R
I
do
commend
the
current
owners
for
their
interest
in
investing
in
our
neighborhood.
We
need
more
of
that
I
hope
we
can
find
a
solution
in
the
future,
but
this
current
request
this
evening
considers
not
what
is
in
the
best
interest
of
the
neighborhood.
But
what
is
in
the
best
interest
of
their
bottom
line
so
far,
they
have
been
unwilling
to
pull
this
request
for
seven
units
and
explore
any
other
alternate
options
for
the
property.
R
We
have
been
provided
no
plans
or
commitments
for
exterior
Rehabilitation,
which
reflects
their
priority
of
making
a
significant
Investments
to
the
interior
for
marketing
purposes.
Those
interior
pictures
look
amazing,
those
I'm
sure
they
Market
very
well,
but
we
as
neighbors
also
have
to
think
about
the
exterior
how
it
relates
to
other
properties,
how
it
really
relates
to
the
historic
integrity
and
currently
only
minimal
Investments
have
been
made
to
the
exterior
of
properties
as
required
for
maintaining
rental
certificates.
R
Now,
like
Ardent
Diana
Hill
for
single
family
person,
but
reduced
density
as
well
properties
that
have
been
reduced
in
density
and
I
think
we
have
proven
as
residents
of
our
neighborhood,
who
have
advocated
for
numerous
transformative
projects
over
the
years
that
we
control
the
trajectory
of
our
neighborhood
and
collectively
shape
its
future.
Our
priority
and
yours
is
the
health
of
our
neighborhood
I
urge
you
to
deny
this
request
in
its
current
formulation.
Y
Hello,
my
name
is
Angela
Thorne
I
live
at
13,
39th,
Street
and
I'm.
Also,
a
landlord
in
Riverbend
I
manage
a
property
1815
6th
Avenue
and
also
1420
and
22.
8Th
Street
I
have
lived
in
this
neighborhood
for
24
years.
I
have
lived
there
most
of
my
life
I've.
Had
my
grandmother
lived
in
that
neighborhood.
Y
When
I
came
to
this
neighborhood,
our
house
was
five
units.
We
took
it
down
to
a
single
dwelling.
It's
approximately
3
600
square
feet,
I'm
going
to
talk
as
a
landlord
I
have
seen
them
come
and
go.
Our
main
issue
in
this
neighborhood
is
slumlords
absentee
landlords.
I
am
a
Hands-On
landlord
and,
as
it
has
said,
they
come
and
go,
and
just
because
they're
working
on
this
project
and
investing
in
does
not
mean
they're
not
going
to
leave
it's
their
fault.
Y
That
they're
not
researched,
that
there
is
low
in
Destiny
for
this
just
because
they
did
not
do
the
research.
It's
not
our
fault
in
being
forced
to
make
it
a
high
definition.
Destiny,
there's
a
reason
why
we
worked
very
hard
to
do
this
and
I
feel
that
you
should
respect
the
hard
work
we
put
into
this
for
over
two
decades,
we've
always
been
the
underdog
and
we've
actually
had
to
fight
extra
to
get
what
we
have
worked
hard
for.
N
Y
It's
not
our
fault,
and
it
should
be
in
our
problem
that
they
did
not
do
the
research
and
knowing
that
it
was
supposed
to
go
to
a
single
dwelling.
Yes,
it's
over
4
000
square
feet
and
it
is,
can
be
made
to
a
single
Dawning,
Court,
Chris
I,
don't
know
if
you've
been
in
our
neighborhood
in
the
last
20
years
to
see
before
and
after
I.
Don't
know
if
you
have
seen
all
the
slumlords
that
been
in
the
neighborhood
and
come
and
go.
B
N
N
X
I
killed
Baron
410,
Franklin
Avenue,
the
weight
was
presented
to
us,
as
Bert
said
is
the
letter
came,
and
it
said
up
to
seven
rezoning
for
Optus
seven.
When
meeting
with
Becky
and
her
group,
they
said
we're
gonna
go
for
seven
and
so
as
a
resident
that
got
the
letter
and
as
a
board
member
with
the
Riverbend
neighbor
Association.
C
N
X
N
Y
Z
My
name
is
Amber
Adams
I'm
Ben's
partner,
we're
at
1934
Arlington
I
was
probably
one
of
the
more
passionate
neighbors
that
the
applicant
spoke
about
earlier,
got
pretty
fired
up
at
that
meeting,
given
that
other
multi-unit
properties
directly
back
up
to
the
window,
that
I
look
out
of
every
day.
I
see
these
properties
all
the
time,
they're
ugly,
there's
police.
Z
You
know
around
all
times
of
the
day
and
night
I've
had
to
install
security
cameras
that
point
at
those
properties,
because
it's
just
a
continuous
problem
of
trespassing
I
have
multiple
vehicles,
I,
don't
care
about
parking,
so
I
know
that
the
parking
was
a
concern.
If
you
can't
park
on
the
street
when
there's
snow,
then
it'll
sort
itself
out
either
get
towed
or
you
find
somewhere
to
park.
Z
I
am
a
staunch
preservationist
as
well.
You've
heard
from
somebody.
This
system
was
designed
to
work
this
way,
I
think
it
should
be
allowed
to
work
as
it
is.
I,
don't
think
it
should
be
six
I,
don't
think
it
should
be.
Five
I
think
should
be
four,
and
if
I
have
to
do
that,
until
we
get
back
down
to
one
and
come
to
these
meetings
and
speak
my
piece
every
single
time,
I
will
do
it
every
single
time.
Z
What
is
the
point
of
even
having
the
historical
district
if
all
of
the
things
within
it
don't
have
to
comply
to
the
same
rules?
What
is
the
point
of
doing
any
of
this?
If
we're
not
going
to
follow
the
rules
that
are
already
in
place?
There's
an
exception
for
everything.
Then
what
is
the
point
of
doing
the
whole
thing
at
all?
I
have
to
hold
my
house
to
a
different
set
of
exterior
standards
than
a
landlord
does.
Z
Meanwhile,
I
have
to
live
there
and
they're
just
trying
to
make
money,
don't
care
about
their
beautiful
before
and
afters
I.
Don't
care
about
their
bad
decisions.
I
do
not
care
about
their
profit
margins,
I
care
about
my
neighborhood
and
I
care
about
my
home.
What
I
have
to
look
at
deal
with
and
live
with
every
day,
so
I
do
not
support
this
at
all.
Z
Things
should
revert
to
a
single
family
home
and
if
the
city
needs
to
put
some
money
behind
that
throw
an
invest
esm
program,
then
I
think
that
they
need
to
do
it.
I
do
not
like
being
held
hostage
by
well.
If
nobody
wants
to
buy
it,
nobody
got
the
chance
because
it
was
part
of
a
huge
portfolio
of
a
different
slumlord
selling
off
to
other
slumlords
and
I
I.
Don't
care
I
have
absolutely
no
sympathy,
I
mean
if
you
already
own
99
other
properties,
make
your
money
off
your
99
other
properties.
I
Z
So
319
I
have
an
office
that
points
directly
at
the
back
of
all
of
these
there's
cars
parked
behind
1934
there.
That's
my
you
know,
my
driveway
comes
all
the
way
back.
I
have
a
garage
back
there
I'm
back
there
there's
a
very
clear
line
of
sight
to
the
rear
of
all
those
properties.
We've
had
problems
with
trash
I
took
all
the
city
multiple
times,
rats
roaches
things
that
are
outside
you
know.
Every
time
a
building
gets
sprayed
around
there
there's
a
few
multi-units.
Z
Every
time
a
building
gets
raised,
I'm
gonna
get
bugs
coming
into
my
house
from
the
surrounding
properties.
It's
a
huge
issue.
Some
of
these
buildings
are
absolutely
disgusting.
1930,
which
is
directly
next
to
me,
actually
recently
had
a
fire
the
early
part
of
the
year,
and
so
that
is
currently
sitting
vacant.
I
have
no
idea.
What's
going
to
happen
to
that
property,
it's
one
of
the
oldest
properties
on
the
street,
we're
not
sure
if
that's
going
to
be
a
tear
down
situation
or
what
and
that's.
Z
Obviously,
that
house
is
like
10
feet
away
from
mine,
it's
less
than
the
width
of
my
driveway,
almost
sharing
windows
with
that
house.
So
there's
already
a
lot.
That's
you
know
going
on
in
the
neighborhood
and
I.
Just
do
not
think
that
this
is
the
right
direction,
especially
with
the
other
multi-units
that
are
in
that
vicinity.
I'm,
not
against
affordable
housing,
I'm,
not
against
people.
Trying
to
you
know,
invest
in
real
estate,
but
as
long
as
it's
with
the
right
intentions
and
I
just
I.
Don't
think
that
this
is
the
solution.
AA
AA
I
also
want
to
counter
the
insinuation
that
our
neighborhood
won't
support.
A
single-family
Rehabilitation
for
this
property.
I
do
take
some
offense
to
that.
I
think
it
shows
a
bias
against
our
neighborhood
I.
Just
went
last
night
to
an
open
house
in
Sherman
Hill,
looking
at
a
house
that
had
undergone
a
complete
Rehabilitation
and
that
house
was
valued
at
about
825
thousand
dollars.
So
obviously
we
may
not
get
those
prices
in
our
neighborhood,
but
I
do
think
that
there
is
an
opportunity
for
this
house
to
be
rehabilitated
to
a
single
family
if
it
was
sold.
AA
As
such,
we
do
have
a
lot
of
pride
in
our
neighborhood
I
moved
into
the
area
in
2020
and
I've
met
some
of
the
most
passionate
people.
Everyone
that's
here
tonight
has
donated
their
time
their
energy,
their
emotion
to
our
neighborhood,
to
make
it
a
better
place
overall.
The
reason
why
I
spoke
as
a
neutral
speaker
is
because
I
do
support
more
than
one
unit
at
this
property.
I,
don't
support.
AA
Seven
I
think
it
could
be
an
asset
to
our
neighborhood
as
a
five
Plex
but
I
think
as
a
part
of
of
having
a
just
an
equitable
approach.
We
deserve
more
time
as
a
neighborhood
to
go
through
that
process.
With
the
five
clicks
I
do
like
starlink
I've
had
multiple
conversations
with
Becky
and
I
think
that
we
can
come
to
a
compromise,
but
again
I
would
urge
you
to
give
us
more
time
to
go
through
the
process
to
consider
the
five
Plex
option.
Thank
you.
K
Lip
service
we
give
to
equity
I
think
is
completely
unrealistic,
especially
when
we
don't
even
use
the
materials
we've
done
and
the
efforts
we've
done,
especially
with
directors,
Council
and
all
those
other
groups
have
actually
highlighted
those
issues.
My
concern
is
one
which
is
the
reason
I
left
Sherman
Hill
is
because
when
do
we
actually
go
from
actually
intentionally
correcting
or
wrong
to
then
putting
in
too
many
barriers
that,
ironically,
get
us
in
the
same
place
or
become
exclusionary?
K
And
if
we're
using
saying
oh
we've
had
this
really
really
wrong
in
the
past,
which
we
have
and
as
pervasive,
and
it's
constantly
here-
we're
not
willing
to
face
up
the
fact
that
we
need
to
fix
it
and
now
we're
saying
in
order
to
fix
it,
we
need
to
be
exclusionary
again
that
to
me
doesn't
seem
to
hold
water
and
that's
my
challenge
with
Sherman
Hill,
with
some
of
the
other
impediments
we're
putting
there.
We
saw
with
Sherman
Oak
the
brewery
issue,
we're
actually
putting
on
restrictions
to
a
business.
AA
AB
AB
I
love,
Riverbend,
I've,
canvassed
there
extensively,
there's
some
really
really
cool
houses
that
you
see
there
that
people
are
doing
really
good
work,
but
I,
just
I
think
that
we're
allowing
the
perfect
to
be
the
enemy
of
the
good
here,
and
it's
from
my
understanding
it
it
sounds
like
the
developer-
has
really
not
gotten
the
chance
to
get
in
and
do
what
they're
looking
to
do
here.
It
sounds
like
they
got
this
property.
They
didn't
really
understand
fully
and
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
all
of
that.
AB
But
I
don't
think
that
letting
this
return
to
a
single
family
unit
solves
any
problem.
This
is
a
great
location.
It's
close
to
Transit.
It's
walkable:
these
are
the
exact
types
of
neighborhoods
that
we
need
to
put
more
housing
into.
So
that's
essentially
what
I'll
leave
it
at
it
goes
back
to.
It
goes
back
to
so
many
different
things:
income
diversification
of
a
neighborhood.
AB
One
of
my
one
of
my
colleagues
from
DMACC
is
from
El
Salvador
and
he
chose
Riverbend
because
it
provided
all
of
these
opportunities
for
folks
and
I'm,
worried
that
if
we
just
have
the
goal
of
getting
back
to
single
family
units,
as
we've
heard
so
many
times
tonight,
we're
going
to
end
up
with
a
neighborhood
that
that
doesn't
give
those
opportunities
out
as
much
so
that's
what
I'm
going
to
leave
it
at
today.
Thank
you
very
much.
S
So
I
just
want
to
speak
on
just
a
few.
The
solids
portfolio
has
been
very
challenging,
so
we
bought
it
and
last
year
was
a
very
challenging
year
to
get
contractors
different
things
and
the
full-time
hires
were
this
year.
So
we
now
have
the
capacity
to
do
what
we
want
to
do
and
this
property
here
in
1900
I
mean
the
the
top
part
is
Remodel
and
they
keep
talking
about
the
curb
appeal
and
there
will
be
curb
appeal
with
a
site
plan
approval
process
for
sure.
S
Like
bike
racks,
Landscaping
parking
ratios,
we
we
know
that
I
actually
have
been
through
a
site
plan
on
a
drake
property
that
is
now
taking
almost
two
years
still
vacant,
because
we'll
go
through
the
site
plan
of
the
city.
It
took
seven
months
later
and
we
have
all
these
things
to
figure
out,
but
we're
going
to
finish
the
project.
We
always
try
to
finish
what
we
started.
That's
kind
of
our
motto
as
well,
and
we
we
just
want
to
finish
this
project.
We
are
already
halfway
there.
S
But
we
want
to
get
this
drop
done
and
we
will
have
the
funds
to
get
a
job,
get
it
done
as
a
seven
unit
and
we've
already
rented
out
1908
319
319
Franklin.
We
we
have
it
half
occupied
and
we
are
replacing
that
egress.
That's
going
to
be
there
there'll
be
an
egress
here
that
we
will
need
to
replace
as
well,
and
we
are
held
to
the
same
standards
that
the
HPC
historical
preservation
board
has,
but
obviously
we
are
not
living
there
as
a
single
family
occupant.
S
So
there
is
lesser
incentive
to
beautify
the
outside
to
a
point
where
what
a
single
family
owner
would
be
doing.
We
do
what's
manageable
because
there
are
margins
to
be
made,
but
we
have
a
capital
plan
to
redo
things
on
the
outside
over
time,
but
it
takes
time
to
get
there
and
without
cash
flow.
It's
going
to
be
hard
to
get
there.
O
S
I
mean
as
a
business
person
that
everyone
understands
that
I
am
also
because
that's
that's,
why
we're
doing
what
we're
doing
on
and
but
but
we
are
in
in
the
long-term
role,
and
they
mentioned
many
times
they
don't
know.
What's
going
to
happen
next,
we
have
a
good
track
record
of
owning
and
holding
our
properties.
Warren
Buffett
style
is
kind
of
what
we
I
live
here
by
the
way
I
live,
downtown,
Des,
Moines
and
we've
owned
majority
of
our
properties
for
the
last
10
years.
S
Correct
correct
so
to
to
that
point,
it's
like
we
just
want
to
finish
a
job
and
we're
going
to
aim
high
the
first
step
and
we
bought
it
the
seven
unit,
so
we're
gonna,
try
it
out,
seek
seven
units
here
and
we
have
to
already
spend
so
much
more
money
getting
to
the
finish
line
and
a
five
unit
just
destroys
value
for
reasons
that
seem
like
a
piece
of
paper
or
Administration
wise.
That
was
a
fine
line
between
having
a
relative
and
not
having
one
that
triggered
this
yeah.
D
K
S
K
Mean
big
argument
by
The
Neighborhood
here
says
that
they'd
be
willing.
You
know,
there's
people
are
going
to
step
up
and
do
it
I
mean
if
you
offer
the
number
and
it
doesn't
go
through
I
mean
that
answers
the
mail,
but
if
we
I
mean
well,
if
we
basically
put
this
in
continuance,
you
put
the
offer
out
there
and
we
come
and
say:
okay
in
a
few
weeks,
whether
or
not
we
consider
it
later,
as
opposed
to
now,
I
mean
it
sounds
like
they
haven't.
They
haven't
considered
lesson.
Seven.
N
K
S
We
have
to
so
the
egress
View
and
see
here.
It
is
part
of
the
budget
right
now
to
replace
that
it
is
not
in
good
use,
it
will
not
pass
rent
certificate
inspection
and
we
wanted
to
get
there
with
the
city,
but
in
that
process
we
found
out
that
it
was
lapsed,
a
single
family.
So
why
should
we
spend
any
more
money
until
we
know
what
the
density
is
going
to
look
like.
S
Absolutely
yes,
everything
I
mean
we're
going
to
follow
code
with
the
city's
rental
Inspection
Division
inspiring
Life
Safety,
like
the
maybe
the
flashing
is
peeling.
We
have
to
repaint
everything.
Replacing
I
mean
the
gutters
that
are
not
there.
The
window
work.
Obviously,
we
need
HPC
approval
to
do
anything
there
to
replace
it
in
in-kind
which,
by
the
way,
is
a
lot
lot
more
expensive
and
inefficient.
But
it's
for
a
historic
preservation
purposes
like
there
are
two
portions
on
the
first
floor
that
need
to
be
redone
and
replaced
as
well.
Q
S
S
So
we
have
to
put
a
submission
in
to
to
provide
kind
of
suggestions
on
what
it
would
be
to
be
compliant,
whether
it's
redoing
the
egress,
and
then
we
have
to
present
no
different
than
this
kind
of
format
to
the
HPC
and
I
have
to
explain.
If
it's
going
to
be
different
than
what
you
know,
they
want
it
to
be,
and
we've
gone
through
the
process,
a
few
times
might
kill
them.
S
Brand
can
speak
a
lot
more,
and
that
he's
here
today
from
the
board
of
two
people
here
from
the
from
the
board.
There's
certain
things
about
maintaining
the
the
look
of
it
historically,
which
everyone
can
agree
and
not
agree,
is
the
most
economical
way
of
doing
things
or
the
most
energy
efficient
way
of
doing
things.
S
D
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Can
you
imagine
a
single
mother
living
there
who
gets
pregnant
and
kicks
out
of
her
home
and
she
can
afford
seven
hundred
dollars?
We
have
to
look
at
the
big
picture.
You
guys
are
all
upstanding
citizens.
You've
always
got
careers.
You
all
have
opportunity.
This
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
Mentor
people
coming
into
those
spaces.
O
O
O
O
When
I'm
asking
what
frustrated
me
and
I
was
working,
I
was
trying
to
find
a
workaround
was
to
say:
can
we
step
it
down
a
little
bit?
Maybe
not
single
family,
but
I
am
not
going
to
commit
to
rezoning
that
space
and
the
owner
won't
even
commit
to
working
with
the
neighborhood
to
drop
it
down
to
four
or
five
so
I,
don't
know
what
kind
of
I
don't
know.
If
that's
a
really
good
business
person.
N
N
There's
a
lot,
that's
unknown,
there's
a
lot
that
needs
to
be
known
and
I
think
the
least
that
we
can
do
as
a
commission
tonight
frankly
is
to
continue
this
issue.
I
think
the
Board
needs
to
have
a
chance
to
you
know,
review
what
we've
talked
about
tonight
and
I
regret
that
the
board
didn't
have
a
chance
to
to
do
that
earlier.
N
If
they
want
to
call
I'm
meeting
a
general
meeting
of
the
association
I
mean
that's
their
that's
their
prerogative
if
they
want
to
invite
the
developer,
that's
their
prerogative
too,
if
the
pro,
if
the
developer
wants
to
talk
with
them,
I
think
that
would
be
a
very
good
idea.
I
see
I
I
read
on
the
agenda
tonight
that
the
applicant
will
provide
a
summary
of
the
neighborhood
meaning
it.
The
public
hearing
which
I
I
didn't
hear
so
I
think
that
there
are
a
lot
of
issues
involved
and
I
would
move
that.
B
Q
O
S
I
think
we
want
to
get
to
some
kind
of
solution
that
that
makes
sense
for
everyone.
Yes,
but
it's
been
very
tiring
and
drawn-out
process,
and
maybe
we
need
more
time,
but
but
I
I
don't
know.
I
need
to
have
a
definitive
idea
of
what
that
looks
like
myself
before
I
can
even
say.
That
would
be
because
right
now
it's
like
open,
like
we
wait
two
weeks.
I
do
wait.
Three
weeks.
Do
we
talk
to
the
audience
Riverbend?
S
You
know
Community
again
like
what
that's
that
I
mean
mean
it
means
a
lot
of
them
are
for
single
family.
You
heard
it
tonight.
They
are
not
gonna
budge
on
that.
It
seems
that
way.
That
was
it
was
that
way
during
a
neighborhood
meeting,
I've
already
spoken
to
them
for
two
and
a
half
hours,
similar
presentation,
Style
I,
don't
know
what
else
can
move
their
hearts
to
something
other
than
one
unit
for
I'd,
say
95
of
them
here
tonight,
I
need
more
definitive
timeline
and
what
that
means,
because,
right
now
it's
open-ended.
K
K
O
V
B
The
path
with
the
denial
well,
if
the
commission
recommends
denial
tonight,
then
it
would
take
a
super
majority
vote
at
city
council
for
it
to
pass.
That
said,
there's
already
more
than
20
percent
opposition.
So
it's
already
going
to
need
a
super
majority
vote
at
city
council
to
pass.
But
if
the
city
council
denies
it,
then
they
could
apply
for
a
use,
variance
from
the
zoning
Board
of
adjustment.
U
Could
you
just
clarify
over
here?
Could
you
clarify
we've
had
a
lot
of
talk
about
the
the
work
that
the
neighborhood
has
done
to
make
sure
that
these
homes
revert
to
single-family
homes?
Could
you
clarify
for
me
like?
Is
that
in
the
plan
for
the
district
is
that
where
does
that
come
from,
and
where
does
that.
B
About
10
15
years
ago,
the
neighborhood
did
a
neighborhood
wide
down
zoning,
where,
under
the
old
zoning
code
it
was
owned.
R3,
which
was
at
R3,
was
multi-family.
They
down
zoned
everything
that
wasn't
built
as
multi-family.
They
down
zoned
it
to
a
r160
which
is
a
one
family,
residential
district.
And
so
when
the
city
adopted
a
new
code,
what
was
zoned
r160
then
became
N5,
and
then
what
was
zoned
are
what
remains
zoned
R3
went
to
either
nx1
or
there's
some
n5-4,
if
there's
less
than
four
units
in
it,
but
that
that
really
is
the.
D
U
B
B
Right
so
its
own
single
family,
the
city
code,
also
has
Provisions
in
it.
That
says,
if
the
use,
if
it
so,
if
there's
a
use
that
has
a
legal
non-conforming
rights
to
continue.
If
that
you
ceases
for
six
months
or
longer,
then
they
lose
those
rights,
so
those
rules
are
in
place
for
situations
like
this.
The
only
way
that
these
homes
would
ever
get
converted
back
to
single
family
is
if
they
lose
those
legal
non-conforming
rights.
Just.
B
This
we've
had
some
in
the
Drake
neighborhood
in
the
last
year.
I
don't
know
specifically,
but
I
think
those
were
those
were
for
like
a
duplex
or
maybe
a
three
or
four
unit.
I,
don't
know
that
we've
had
any
did
we
have
this
much
pushback
on
him.
If
you
remember
that
one
on
Kingman
Boulevard
that
wanted
eight
units
staff
is
recommending
four
that
had
a
lot
of
pushback
on
that
and
it
got
denied
okay.
L
S
N
You
say,
but
you
say,
but
you
say
that
you're
interested
in
working
with
a
neighborhood
association,
you
say
that
there
is
a
site
plan
that
you
have
to
develop,
and
it
would
seem
to
me
that
that
would
be
an
absolute
wonderful
entree
to
work
with
these
people
and
on
the
other
side
of
the
coin.
That
would
give
them
an
opportunity
to
work
with
you
as
well.
S
S
Q
Comments
we
are
okay,
so
we
want
to
say
one
more
thing:
yeah
I
would
I'd
like
to
see
you
work
with
them.
If
you
can
give
models,
give
reassurance,
if
you
guys
taking
notes
down
from
what
the
community
has
said,
I
would
I
would
try
to
answer
to
those
to
get
this
pushed
through.
There
are
apartments
around
that
same
area,
I
I,
liked
your
presentation,
I,
like
what
you're
trying
to
do.
Q
Q
P
I
have
one
thought
that
came
up
on
when
we
were
talking.
It
seems
like
we're
trying
to
like
the
way
we're
talking
about
the
process
of
going
to
the
zoning
word
of
adjustment
or
going
to
council
are
the
reversion
of
the
zoning
after
the
lapsing
of
the
rental
certificate,
as
if
we're
sort
of
upsetting
like
a
process
or
step
in
a
room
where
we
don't
belong,
but
that's
not
true.
That's
the
purpose
of
this
body
is
to
consider
rezoning
for
for
reasons
like
this,
so
don't
don't
say.
Well,
we
can't
decide
this.
P
E
I
think
everyone
on
this
board
knows
that
I'm,
a
big
density
Hawk,
so
I
as
as
much
as
this
everybody
wants
it
to
be.
A
single
many
people
want
it
to
be
a
single
family
I
recognize
the
shortage
of
housing,
especially
affordable
housing,
which
this
applicant
has
provided
in
a
couple
of
neighborhoods,
so
I
I
personally,
would
have
a
hard
time
taking
that
away
and
I
think
that
encouraging
biking
which
people,
obviously
in
the
neighborhood
already
do
and
Sixth
Avenue,
has
really
great
wide
off
street
bike.
E
Lanes
I
rode
on
them
this
week,
when
I
rode
by
this
property.
I
think
those
are
good.
Solutions
and
I
could
not
find
some
a
couple.
People
mentioned
the
river
bend
plan,
as
well
as
the
historic
preservation
plan.
I
could
not
find
again
just
doing
a
word
search
where
it
said.
One
of
the
goals
was
to
deconvert
multi
family
units
back
to
single-family
homes.
I
couldn't
find
that
I'm
certainly
willing
to
be
have
that
pointed
out
to
me.
E
E
You
want
part
people
to
park
on
the
street
because
it
slows
them
down
and
if
you
continue
to
have
problems
with
people
speeding
on
Arlington,
there
is
a
process
to
reach
out
to
traffic
and
transportation
for
a
traffic
traffic,
calming
study
to
get
speed,
humps
and
other
measures
put
in
the
street
to
slow
the
traffic
down.
I
I,
don't
think
all
of
that
should
be
lumped
on
this
one
owner
of
this
property
to
solve
that,
and
my
one
final
comment
is
the
certificate
of
appropriateness.
E
B
The
first
step
would
be
getting
the
youth
set,
so
the
zoning
would
set
the
use,
whether
it
be
the
rezoning
or
the
use
variants.
The
Next
Step
would
be
the
site
plan
and
then,
if
the
site
plan
approved,
then
they
would
have
to
make
improvements
to
bring
the
site
into
conformance
with
that
site
plan
which
those
external
improvements,
whether
that
be
building
materials
or
even
Paving
or
sidewalks
or
dumpster
enclosures.
Those
would
all
require
certificate
of
historical
appropriatenesses
from
the
historic
preservation
Commission.
So
before
any
construction
can
happen,
they
need
the
certificate.
B
B
P
Well,
this
is
this
has
been
a
lot
of
really
really
thoughtful
comments
and
it's
easy
to
kind
of
move
back
and
forth
when
you're
hearing
it,
which
makes
me
think
that
the
staff
motion
was
was
probably
pretty
wise.
It
it
found
some
number
to
latch
on
to
and
it
happened
to
be
parking
at.
First
I
was
questioning
that
and
said
well
I
feel
sort
of
arbitrary
because
you
could
add
two
more
parking
stalls
and
then
you
have
seven
apartments,
and
so
then
is
seven.
P
I
D
I
That
we're
not
going
to
split
her
in
half,
but
the
the
hard
the
thing
I'm
struggling
with
is
spot
with
five
is
that
I
only
heard
one
person
and
she
was
neutral,
say
that
five
would
be
okay
with
her.
The
the
rest
said
one
only
so
to
me.
It's
almost
like.
What's
the
difference
at
that
point
between
five
and
seven,
if
they
don't
like
five,
they
don't
like
seven
I'd
like
to
I'd
like
to
rezone
I.
Just
don't
know
if
five
is
right
or
seven
I'd
be
interested
in
others.
L
Q
Q
K
AD
S
To
me,
it's
just
you
know,
I
mean
to
me.
It
just
seems
like
it's
kind
of
half
and
half
right
now,
based
on
what
you
guys
just
did,
because
part
of
me
just
says:
I
want
to
be
done
with
this
tonight,
because
we
want
to
move
on
so
or
we
wait
two
weeks,
and
that
is
the
middle
ground.
If
you
will
I
can
be
that
gracious
and
to
Justin's
point
I
I
would
like
to
have
them
walk
through
our
units
that
we
have
right
now.
S
It
is,
and
it
is
also
a
stressor
for
some
people
here,
but
I
think
to
give
closure
to
everyone
here
in
the
room.
That
majority
would
be
sending
I
invite
them
to
come
to
our
places,
talk
to
our
tenants,
meet
them
and
we
come
back
again
to
the
table
and
decide
because
I
think
that's
the
most
gracious
way.
It's.
S
No
two
weeks
is
enough:
we
want
to
go
faster
with
this
one
also
because
time
is
not
on
our
hands:
let's
get
into
holidays.
We
know
it
gets
busy
I
work
when
I
need
to
work,
but
some
people
don't
just
given
this
people
that
we
deal
with.
So
we
want
to
be
cognizant
of
that.
We
will
fiduciary
back
to
our
investors.
We
have
other
partners
on
this
as
well,
so
I
am
fiduciary
to
the
Investment
Group
and
I'm
fiduciary
to
you
know
yeah.
That
is.
S
K
S
Right
so
if
I'm
I
want
to
clarify
that
so
between
now
and
two
weeks
when
we
meet
again,
I'll
show
up
again
with
probably
the
same
group
of
people
and
they
would
I
would
extend
the
invitation
from
tonight
onwards
to
figure
out
a
touring
group.
If
anything
I
think
that's
a
good
step
for
them
to
go
tour.
Our
properties
do
that
and
then
we
come
back
in
two
weeks
and
they
can
elaborate
and
experience
as
good
or
bad
and
we
vote
again.
L
D
A
A
Yeah,
so
item
number
12
is
a
request
from
Merchants
Whiteline
Warehouse
Inc
for
review
and
approval
of
a
public
hearing,
site
plan
site
improvements
for
merchants,
distribution
for
property
located
at
1850,
East
Euclid
Avenue
for
a
type
2
design
alternative
to
allow
loose
materials
to
be
stacked.
Outdoors
and
Heights
up
to
25
feet
tall
when
loose
material
are
not
allowed
to
be
stacked
higher
than
six
feet.
Tall
and
Nick
from
staff
is
here
to
present.
Thank.
AE
You
thanks
Madam
chair
members
of
the
commission,
Nick
tarpy
planning
staff,
so
really
Switching
gears
here
we're
not
talking
about
a
zoning
issue.
We're
not
talking
about
a
zoning
issue
at
all.
It's
it's
strictly
a
site
plan
issue,
so
just
to
try
to
keep
the
commission
I
guess
on
target
here
really
just
like
it
says
in
the
requested
action.
We're
only
talking
about
the
heights
of
the
storage
of
the
loose
materials
that
are
being
stored
outside
not
talking
about
any
sort
of
screening
where
it's
going.
AE
Anything
like
that,
it's
strictly
about
the
hype
and
then
just
it's
in
your
staff
report,
but
just
again
kind
of
reiterating
some
of
the
background
here.
The
applicant
submitted
a
site
plan
back
in
early
July
to
legalize
and
authorize
the
outdoor
storage
area,
so
that
was
the
installation
of
the
like
the
three-sided
bunkers,
we'll
take
a
look
at
those
and
then
to
allow
the
piles
of
salt
and
other
material
materials
to
be
stored
outside,
as
well
as
install
some
new
Paving
and
a
truck
scale.
AE
So
they
submitted
a
site
plan
in
early
July
for
that
that's
been
administratively
approved,
so
it
was
approved
with
six
foot
high
storage
limit
for
the
loose
materials.
So
by
the
book
it
went
through
got
administrative
approval.
They
met
the
requirements
for
the
outdoor
storage
for
the
screening,
how
it
was
contained
and
the
heights
they
have
since
returned
to
the
commission
or
they've
resubmitted
the
site
plan
to
allow
up
to
25
feet
of
loose
materials
to
be
stored
outside.
AE
Does
that
make
sense?
You
want
me
to
go
over
that
at
all,
okay
cool
so
to
get
into
the
context
here.
This
is
Merchants
Warehouse,
it's
pretty
big
Warehouse
up
in
the
East
Euclid
industrial
Corridor.
If
you
can
follow
my
cursor
here
towards
the
south
east,
this
is
ADM
and
a
lot
of
their
Affiliated
facilities.
AE
So
we,
the
this
commission,
has
seen
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
they've
been
doing
recently
with
some
of
their
expansions
and
Zoning
things
really
pretty
Industrial
Area
we've
got
a
metal
recycler
to
the
South
Liberty
Liberty
has
a
batch
plant
over
here
to
the
Southwest.
Some
outdoor
storage
uses
that
are
adjacent
to
the
site.
Rail
Yards
things
like
that,
so
generally,
a
pretty
industrial
Corridor
so,
like
I,
said
we're
not
talking
about
zoning,
it's
strictly
a
site,
design
thing
that
we're
discussing
here
tonight,
so
digging
into
the
site
plan
existing
conditions
here.
AE
This
shows
this
is
really
how
the
site
had
operated
historically
or
has
operated.
Historically,
we've
got
a
pretty
large
Warehouse
here,
got
a
large
kind
of
open
yard
in
the
back
with
a
couple
of
rail
Spurs
and
then
as
part
of
their
site
improvements.
Really
they
were
adding
some
Paving.
So
this
is
where
that
truck
scale
would
go,
adding
some
Paving
here
in
the
back
and
then
also
this
is
the
area
that's
specifically
highlighted
or
called
out
for
the
outdoor
storage.
AE
So
the
loose
materials
will
be
stored
back
here
in
these
bunkers
that
are
covered
with
tarps
and
I'll
show
some
imagery.
That
shows
what
that
looks
like
so
here's
a
sample
image
provided
by
the
applicant
I'll.
Let
them
add
a
little
bit
more
context
to
this,
but
this
is
the
kind
of
setup
or
situation
that
they
were
thinking
of
how
the
site
would
operate.
AE
Here's
just
some
equipment
that
they
use
and
kind
of
typically
how
their
operations
look
so
digging
into
the
staff
report
here
really
as
staff
I
think
we
want
to
acknowledge
that
we
understand
that
the
applicant
has
proposed
a
pretty
robust
tarping
system.
I
think
you
saw
that
in
the
image
the
applicant
can
vouch
for
that
really
when
we're
thinking
about
the
outdoor
storage
regulations,
the
the
key
reason
for
having
the
height
limitation
on
these
loose
materials.
Is
that
a
lot
of
times
when
it
gets
windy?
These
things
can
blow
around.
AE
So
when
you
have
these
really
high
piles,
even
if
they
are
tarps,
there's
a
lot
of
concern
that
dust
and
materials
and
things
can
leak
on
to
other
properties
and
be
a
nuisance
again
as
staff.
We
understand
that
the
applicant
has
proposed
pretty
robust,
tarping
I,
don't
know
if,
if
the
the
dust
leakage
or
the
material
leakage
is
really
our
biggest
concern
at
this
point,
I
think
generally,
when
we
were
evaluating
the
request,
the
big
the
couple,
the
two
real
big
things
that
we
noticed
one.
AE
This
is
a
pretty
big
outdoor
storage
area.
It's
not
just
like
a
couple
of
bunkers
accessory
use.
It's
over
18
000
square
feet,
so
that's
a
pretty
big
use
takes
up
a
lot
of
the
site.
The
idea
and
the
intent
for
the
applicant
is
to
use
this
kind
of
long
term.
It's
a
new
development
at
the
site.
It's
a
new
I'll.
AE
So
in
the
staff
report,
I
did
mention,
maybe
like
a
sister
project
or
a
project
over
at
the
airport,
obviously
different
context
different
scale,
but
they
proposed
a
solution
with
the
hoop
style
building.
That's
a
little
bit
more
permanent
that
we
think
accomplishes
a
lot
of
the
same
goals.
So
we
would
really
encourage
the
applicant
to
explore
something
like
that.
AE
AE
AE
Oh
here
at
the
site,
specifically
yeah
good
question:
it's
specifically
for
salt,
so
road
salt,
so
that
was
really
I.
Think
going
and
the
applicant
can
speak
to
this
a
little
bit
more
detail.
The
reason
that
there's
been
like
multiple
site
plans
submitted
and
they
wanted
to
get
going
right
away
with
a
lot
of
the
paving
and
things
like
that
and
get
that
initial
approval
is
because
they're
trying
to
get
salt
and
other
materials
here
in
October
for
the
winter
so
they've
come.
AE
They
got
their
initial
approval
to
do
some
of
the
paving
some
of
the
site
work
to
kind
of
get
it
prepped,
and
now
you
know
they.
They
know
they're
up
kind
of
up
against
the
deadline.
Here
they
want
to
try
to
basically
go
back
to
the
commission
to
try
to
get
that
increased
storage
height.
Does
that
make
sense.
K
AE
AE
K
AE
Is
up
to
the
commission
to
decide
that
as
staff
we
we
didn't
feel
like
it
was
appropriate
to
recommend
a
condition
like
that.
We
just
wanted
to
go
for
the
straight
denial
because,
generally,
we
think
you
know
how
this
site
is
going
to
operate.
The
the
storage
needs
to
be
in
some
sort
of
permanent
structure
a
little
bit
more
permanent
than
what
they're
proposal.
If
the
applicant
wants
to
make
that
case,
and
the
commission
wants
to
grant
that
that's
up
to
them.
AE
AF
Good
evening
honorable
chair
members
of
the
commission,
Wally
pelts,
Peltz
Design
Services,
2323,
Dixon,
Street,
Des,
Moines,
Iowa,
50316.
I
have
a
block
and
a
half
away
from
this
site.
I
wanted
to
give
you
a
quick
scale
of
I,
put
it
on
Google,
Earth
and
I
made
the
tarp
green.
So
you
can
see
it
because
when
I
did
the
natural
color
of
the
tarp
it
kind
of
Blended
in
with
the
buildings.
So
if
I
could
share
this
real
quick.
AF
That
should
give
you
the
scale
you
can
see.
Alters
Nick
already
talked
about
where
it's
at
realistically.
What
we're
talking
about
is
a
road
salt
storage.
Our
dilemma
is
a
is
like
twofold,
so
we're
looking
to
expand
our
track
spur.
We
have
two
Spurs
coming
in
one's
eight
one,
nine.
The
second
one
is
eight
three
zero.
Eight
three
zero
only
comes
in
halfway.
819
is
an
undersized
track,
so
it
can't
carry
enough
weight.
Dot
has
offered
to
give
us
a
grant
to
improve
that
track.
AF
It's
a
part
of
their
railroad
Improvement
and
we
have
been
working
through
the
up
since
October
of
2021
to
try
and
get
this
approved.
So
it
brings
us
to
this
spot.
We
thought
we'd
be
much
further
along
we're
also
on
our
fifth
person
from
the
up,
because
they've
had
turnover.
So
it's
a
slow,
arduous
process.
We
are
not
opposed
to
doing
a
permanent
structure,
however,
we're
we
would
like
to
ask
that
the
commission
give
us
a
two
to
four
year
window
to
get
that
done.
We
still
don't
know
where
track
830
will
go.
AF
We
have
retained
VIA
Rail
if
you're
familiar
with
them.
They're,
a
nationwide
rail
engineering
company-
they
specialize
in
this
and
they
are
working
with
them
to
figure
out
where
we're
going
to
be
I,
do
not
want
to
put
a
footing
for
a
structure
where
830
might
end
up.
So
that
is
our
request.
I've
had
discussions
with
staff
and
they
felt
it
was
up
to
the
commission
if
you
would
grant
that
I
believe
they
were
supportive
of
that
kind
of
a
suggestion.
He's
nodding
his
head
now.
AF
P
If
we
were
to
I
know,
we
got
a
couple
more
steps,
but
if
we
were
to
do
a
motion
that
had
to
do
with
that
Hoop
Building
is
there
a
way?
Is
there
a
way
to
to
write
the
Motions
that,
like
is
sort
of
subject
to
that
track,
like
within
six
months
of
that
new
track,
are
no
more
than
four
years
from
this
date,
or
something
like
that.
AF
Yeah
I
I
think
we
can
commit
to
a
timeline
to
that.
What
I
would
here's
my
dilemma?
The
all
the
real
projects
that
I've
ever
done
have
been
two
to
three
times
longer
than
what
was
originally
projected
I'm
happy
to
do
it
once
my
rail
is
in
then
I
think
we
can
commit
to
a
timeline
depending
on
when
it
hits
in
the
year.
AF
You
know
I
truly,
don't
want
to
do
winter
construction,
you
know
because,
let's
let's
say
they
put
the
track
in
in
October,
November
I
don't
want
to
be
trying
to
build
in
six
months.
So
if
we
would
have
some
flexibility
of
maybe
a
year
from
when
track,
830
gets
extended
that
you
know
by
the
Union
Pacific.
That
would
be
ideal
for
us
and
and
that
would
help
tremendously
in
what
we're
looking
to
do
and.
AF
AF
That
up
is
looking
at
as
well
they're
looking
at
their
whole
Rail
Yard
system,
as
you
recall,
when
the
city
of
Des
Moines,
closed,
Hull,
Avenue
and
a
couple
other
places
looking
to
augment
The,
Yards
I
think
we're
already
out
of
space
because
they're
looking
to
expand
again,
because
rail
is
becoming
more
prevalent
because
it's
a
much
more
efficient
way
to
transport
right
now.
There's
quite
a
few
trucks
making
runs
up
here,
I
know
for
cement.
AF
It
certainly
is
so
rail
is
the
new
more
for
I
mean
it's
much
more
efficient,
it's
much
more
eco-friendly,
less
fuel,
it
that's
where
at
so
we're
estimating
two
to
four
years,
but
we'd
be
happy
to
come
back
at
any
time,
especially
if
we're
going
to
have
complaints.
The
one
thing
I
did
want
to
mention
is:
if
you're
familiar
with
gravel
roads,
we
use
a
salt
solution
to
spray
it
calcium
chloride,
so
that
it
doesn't
dust.
AF
Salt
is
not
it's
an
ionic
compound,
so
it
has
a
tendency
to
attract
materials.
So
it's
not
a
very
dusty
type
material
and
it
is
rock
salt
right,
so
you're
talking
that
quarter
inch
cubed
is
what
we're
looking
at
typically
so,
hopefully,
unless
we
have
huge
winds,
but
the
tarp
should
hold
it
in
place
again
willing
to
do
the
the
structure
at
a
time
when
I
know
where
I
can
put
it.
AF
E
AF
It'll
get
moved
so
this
this
is
to
supply
the
municipalities
and
anyone
who
spreads
salt
during
icing
events,
it
gets
trucked
in
it's
mined
somewhere
from
Kansas
brought
in
VIA
Rail
and
then
dropped
off.
The
reason
we're
asking
for
more
rail
is
because
I'd
like
to
have
more
cars
to
offload
and
that's
why
we're
asking
for
a
larger
storage
capacity
right
now,
because
I
don't
have
the
space
to
move
the
cars
off.
Otherwise,
we
sit
and
block
the
track
819,
which
you
can
see
it
on
our
plan.
AF
AF
Looking
for
more
capacity
in
the
track
so
right
now,
I
can
only
get
so
many
cars
to
unload
off
that
track
at
a
time
because
I'm
limited
and
linked
off
the
main
track,
it's
a
very
short
track.
It's
also
got
a
non-compliant
curvature
element
to
it,
which
is
means
we're
asking
for
exceptions.
So
I,
don't
I,
don't
have
a
ton
of
area
to
work
with,
so
I
can
bring
in
three
four
cars
a
day
during
salt
season
and
then
to
get
it
out.
AF
It
takes
me
so
long
to
stockpile
right,
because,
if
you're
buying
in
peak
season
salt
goes
up
triple
priced
and
then
city
of
Des
Moines,
paying
triple
Pike's
Des
Moines
Airport
I
mean
that's.
Why
Des
Moines
Airport's
buying
their
own
right
so
that
they
can
stockpilot.
So
this
is
actually
feeding
the
municipalities.
They're
they're,
Skyline
salts
customer
base
are
the
sit
surrounding
cities.
AF
Q
K
So
right
now
we're
just
basically
needing
to
allow
this
thing
to
go
higher,
because
we
need
to
have
enough
inventory
because
the
rate
at
which
we
can
bring
stuff
in
and
out
without
extra
track.
It
means
we
can't
be
financially
operating
sustainably
with
the
single
track
that
has
a
limited
amount
that
can
bring
in
and
out
so
we're
not
saying
that's
going
to
be
25
feet
every
day
all
day.
It's.
AF
K
AF
AF
It'll
ebb
and
flow
you'll
see
it
you'll
see
it
rise
and
fall.
I
mean
it's
no
different
than
when
you
see
from
the
manats
or
Liberty
concrete
down
the
road.
You
know
their
their
stockpiles
go
taller
than
they
you
see
them
disappeared,
then
they
stockpile
them
up
again.
It's
going
to
be
that
same
type
of
experience.
Well,.
AF
AF
That's
that's
a
fact
and
then,
as
I
mentioned,
salt
is
an
ionic
material
that
we
use
to
spray
gravel
roads
to
collect
it'll
trap,
the
dust
into
the
smaller
particles
so
again,
I
think
we've
accomplished
it,
it's
a
temporary
fix,
but
we
will
we're
committing
to
that
Hoop
Building
I.
Just
can't
give
you
an
exact
timing
again
because
I
don't
control
the
railroad.
K
Oh
no
I
was
just
saying
that
as
someone
who's
dealing
with
a
railroad
project
now
I
feel
your
pain,
for
they
will
tell
you
we'll
do
this
and
you
never
know
when
it's
going
to
come,
then
they
show
up
and
they
don't
and
we'll
take
extra
years,
but
I
guess.
My
other
question
was
that
the
25
foot
piece:
do
you
have
win
date
on
it
to
provide
any
confidence?
AF
Q
AG
I
have
to
my
name,
is
Mark
art,
Hobart
I'm,
the
owner
of
skyline
Salt
Solutions,
so
I
I
do
have
carnal
knowledge
of
all
this,
but
as
far
as
the
tarp
goes,
we
actually
just
started
using
this
tarping
system.
Last
year,
I
did
a
job
out
in
Pennsylvania
and
I
come
across
this
tarp,
your
typical
tarp
that
you
see
on
most
these
piles
have
ropes
on
them
and
sandbags
and
everything
else
and
and
you're
right.
AG
When
the
wind
comes
up
they're
flopping
in
the
wind
they
rip
and
go
this
wind
Defender,
it's
a
it's
a
two-part
system,
so
you
put
a
poly
tarp
on
first
and
then
you
put
the
wind
Defender,
which
is
a
fabric
over
top
of
it,
and
on
that
you
put
your
weighted
sandbags
down
at
the
bottom.
So
there's
not
ropes.
There's
none
of
that
stuff
that
wind
Defender
it
sticks
like
I
mean
it
stays
on
there
and
I
mean
the
name
serves
itself.
It's
wind,
Defender
right.
AG
AG
D
D
AG
B
Q
AE
It's
kind
of
we
were
talking
about
it's
a
legal
non-conforming
use,
so
if
they
were
ever
have
to
do
a
site
plan,
they'd
have
to
cover
it
and
store
it
appropriately.
Okay,
I
think,
probably
most
of
the
facilities
that
we
have
around
the
city
that
have
these
piles
of
aggregate
probably
are
not
conforming
to
current
standards.
I
think
you
could
say,
that's
accurate,
but
it
is
a
pretty
common
industrial
practice
that
we
have
in
different
parts
of
the
city.
AG
AC
AF
AF
AC
A
AH
One:
okay:
our
address
is
165
West,
Side,
Court,
Dubuque
Iowa
and
just
as
you
were
talking
I
know,
one
of
the
concerns
that
came
up
is:
is
it
permanently
going
to
stay
25
foot
tall
well
I'm
in
the
salt
business,
if
it
doesn't
snow,
there's
a
slight
chance
of
that
come
spring.
I
will
also
be
at
home
crying,
but
the
intent
is
not
to
have
it
that
way.
Year
round
this
time
of
year,
right
now
we're
stockpiling
up
to
get
ready
for
winter
we
bring
in
VIA
Rail
what
our
contracts
are
throughout
the
winner.
AH
So
the
sooner
we
can
figure
out
yes
or
no,
the
better.
That
is
for
me.
Additionally,
Mark
did
not
answer.
As
far
as
with
our
tarp
system.
Part
of
the
reason
we
put
our
blocks
up,
there
is
after
we
tarp
it.
We
also
take
two
by
fours
as
a
furring
strip
on
the
bottom
of
the
blocks
tap
on
that
end,
so
that,
on
top
of
it
being
wind
Defender,
it's
also
anchored
to
the
wall
until
the
time
we
make
it
back
that
far.
AH
We
also
talked
about
the
time
period,
the
two
years
and
then,
if
we
need
to
readdress
at
that
point,
gives
us
multiple
things
if
we're
able
to
move
forward
with
the
rail,
also
after
two
years
of
me
being
in
the
Des
Moines
Market.
That
also
allows
me
to
work
with
my
bank
on
financing
for
said
building,
because
it
sounds
like
everybody
in
here
has
bought
a
house.
You
need
two
years
of
proven
record
to
be
able
to
get
that
financing
and
I.
Think
that
covers
about
every
miscellaneous
question.
A
Q
I'll
make
it
really
fast
comment:
small
business
owner
always
going
to
be
a
champion
of
businesses
who
come
in
here
with
a
plan
who
want
to
do
it
right.
We
have
plenty
of
people
that
come
in
here
and
apply
for
exemptions,
and
it
doesn't
have
any
large
impact
this.
This
has
large
impact,
so
I'm
very
sympathetic
and
empathetic
and
I'm
going
to
vote
to
provide
relief,
So
yeah.
Thank
you
guys
for
a
good
presentation.
B
Q
Q
I
come
from
a
black
mother
that
house
all
my
family
members
who
were
struggling
and
they
could
have
been
considered
slumlords,
but
we
helped
them
and
that
that's
the
family
I
come
from
I
hire
people
who
are
low
income
I'm
going
through
a
life
change
right
now,
so
I
just
ask
that
y'all
helped
me
combat
that
BS
I,
don't
want
to
hear
it.
The
the
community
has
legitimate
concern
and
I
worked
hard
to
broker
that,
but
I
don't
want
to
hear
about
slumlords
I.
Q
Don't
want
to
hear
about
problematic
people
that
that
is
offensive
to
me.
So
I
ask
that
you
guys
work
with
me
to
stop
that
and
we
address
it
and
we
we
are
solution
based
and
database
on
the
decisions
we
make,
but
the
rest
of
that
that
has
to
stop
please
but
I
love.
You
all
and
I
appreciate
you
all
that
hurt
me
tonight.