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From YouTube: 8-17-23 Plan & Zoning Commission
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Des Moines Plan & Zoning Commission meeting on Thursday, August 17, 2023.
View the agenda: https://DSM.city/PZatHome
A
I'll
go
ahead
and
read
the
rules
and
procedures.
The
plan
and
Zoning
commission
is
generally
an
advisory
body
to
the
city
council.
The
city
council
will
hold
the
public
hearing
and
make
the
final
decision
on
all
matters
before
the
commission
other
than
site
plans
and
subdivision
plots
unless
denials
or
conditional
conditional
approvals
thereof
are
appealed.
Please
contact
the
city,
clerk
or
development
services
department
staff
for
details
on
Council
hearings.
A
Applicant
will
be
given
10
minutes
to
present
the
request
proponents,
and
then
opponents
from
the
public
are
then
allowed
to
speak
in
that
order
with
each
speaker
allowed
a
maximum
of
five
minutes
applicant
is
then
allowed
five
minutes
for
a
rebuttal.
The
hearing
will
then
be
closed
and
the
commission
will
discuss
and
vote
on
the
issue.
All
comments
are
to
be
germane
to
the
item
under
consideration
and
speakers
are
to
maintain
a
courteous
manner.
A
C
A
Okay,
seeing
none
item
number
one
will
remain
on
the
consent
agenda
item
number
two
is
a
request
from
pridecraft
Custom
Homes
for
review
and
approval
of
three
public
hearing
site
plans
for
type
2
design
Alternatives
in
accordance.
Oh
sorry,
for
three
Lots
located
in
the
vicinity
of
348
East
Pleasant
View
Drive,
to
allow
construction
of
a
house
type
B
on
each
lot
and
to
allow
an
attached
garage
where
the
overhead
door
comprises
45.7
percent
of
the
front
facade
width,
where
only
thirty
percent
of
the
front
facade
width
is
allowed.
A
Yes,
are
you
in
opposition
or
okay
item
number
two
is
removed
from
the
consent
agenda
and
will
be
heard
on
the
public
hearing
tonight.
Item
number
three
is
a
request
from
wh
two
LTD
for
the
following
regarding
property
located
at
5631
Francis
Avenue
determination
as
to
whether
the
requested
requested
rezoning
is,
in
conformance
with
plan
DSM
to
amend
plan
DSM,
to
revise
the
future
land,
use
classification
from
low
density
residential
to
medium
density,
residential
and
to
rezone
the
property
from
n3b
neighborhood
District
to
nx2
Neighborhood
mix
District
to
allow
a
parking
lot.
A
A
A
E
E
This
is
slightly
east
of
Indianola
Avenue
North
of
Park
Avenue,
just
to
get
you
familiarized
generally,
where
this
is
situated.
These
are
three
vacant
lots
and
the
proposal
is
to
build
a
house
on
each
of
these
three
three
lots
they're
very
similar
in
design.
However,
there
is
some
variation
in
the
in
the
design
in
terms
of
the
material
and
the
and
the
roof
and
so
on.
So
it
makes
it
a
little
bit
distinct,
so
they're
not
exactly
similar
to
each
other,
but
they
are
fairly
similar
in
design.
E
E
E
E
E
So
in
reviewing
this
staff
looks
at
a
few
different
criteria
to
review
the
the
waiver
request
to
see
if
the
waiver
granting
the
waiver
would
have
any
detrimental
effect
to
the
character
of
the
area
if
it
fits
with
the
with
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood
and
the
existing
houses,
and
so
on.
So
staff
believes
that
the
properties
generally
in
the
vicinity
and
the
houses
in
this
neighborhood
have
some
variation
in
terms
of
what
what's
there,
with
the
facade
design
and
so
on.
E
So
because
of
that
variation
staff
believes
that
what
has
been
proposed
and
the
waiver
is
appropriate
so
long
as
there's
some
windows
on
the
garage
door
and
as
you
can
see,
if
you,
if
I
go
back
to
one
of
the
drawings
here,
you
can
see
that
the
applicant
has
shown
windows
on
the
garage
door.
I
believe
the
intention
is
to
is
to
provide
the
the
window,
so
that
will
help
with
some
of
that
breaking
up
the
blank.
E
Facade,
if
you
will
the
front
edge
on
the
front
edge
so
so
that
is
what
staff
is
recommending.
That
staff
is
comfortable
with
the
the
with
the
waiver
request.
So
long
as
the
applicant
does
provide
the
the
windows
on
the
overhead
garage
doors
we
we
did
not
receive
any
responses
from
the
neighbors,
so
that's
the
consent
map
and
that's
the
end
of
my
presentation.
I'll
be
happy
to
take
any
questions.
B
B
C
B
C
F
Jason
Duran
with
pridecraft
custom
homes.
My
address
is
1004
Northeast,
19th
Street
in
Grimes,
so
on
this
plane
here,
basically
I
build
multiple
houses.
A
year
on
infill
Lots
in
the
city
of
Des,
Moines
I
am
familiar
with
yeah.
The
30
rule
on
the
garages
I
have
built
a
couple
houses
with
a
one-car
garage
that
fits
in
with
that
rule.
F
Every
single
time,
I
get
people
that
just
give
me
push
back
on.
Why
am
I
building
houses
with
a
monk,
car
garage
and
I
said:
hey
it's
the
City
Rules,
so
the
only
way
I
can
get
around.
That
obviously,
is
by
coming
here
today
and
asking
for
variance
there.
The
houses
with
two
car
garages
are
well
more
received
from
people
that
want
to
buy
a
new
house
on
info
a
lot
in
the
City
Des
Moines
versus
a
one-car
garage.
F
F
So
in
the
past
I've
come
in
here
before
and
as
for
the
variance
exception
from
planning
zoning,
it's
been
granted
before
I
had
really
good
success
with
these
houses
building
them
selling
them
having
them
be
an
asset
to
the
neighborhood
and
everything
along
those
lines.
They
turn
out
to
be
really
fantastic
homes
for
the
city.
So
with
that
I'd
like
to
request
for
you
guys
to
give
me
approval
for
the
variants
so
that
I
can
build
these
three
houses
here
and
help
out
the
city
with
more
houses
on
infield
Lots.
F
D
F
C
A
G
G
Just
for
a
little
background,
we
live
in
the
neighborhood,
we're
actually
right
across
the
street,
and
this
lot
is
vacant
obviously,
and
the
owner
he
purchased
it
about
a
year
ago,
and
it
was
fully
overgrown
with
trees
and
a
large
portion
of
it
clear-cut
and
being
across
the
street.
I
observed
being
clear-cut.
G
Brick,
concrete
soil
or
similar
material
covering
a
cumulative
area
larger
than
2500
square
feet,
requires
a
grading
permit
a
little
bit
more
research
into
the
code
and
and
it's
a
it's,
a
there's,
a
specific
science
to
filling
in
an
area
of
this
size.
You
can't
just
cut
the
trees
down,
leave,
leave
the
Organics
and
dump
fill
dirt
on
top
of
it
and
then
expect
to
build
on
top
of
it.
G
The
code
requires
that
that
fill
be
compacted
every
12
inches
and
it
has
to
meet
a
specific
compaction
which
is
99
90
to
95
percent
compaction
rate,
and
none
of
this
was
was
done
and
I.
Don't
know
why?
But
I
just
want
to
bring
it
to
the
zoning
boards
and
the
engineers
attention
that
this
is
just
it.
It
violates
not
only
city
code.
G
The
grading
requirements
and
I
could
I've
taken
a
few
screenshots
here
and,
along
with
the
site
plan,
it
says
a
site
plan
can't
be
approved
unless
a
grading
plan
has
been
submitted
as
well,
and
the
requirement
is,
is
that
grading
plan
B
submitted
by
an
engineer
and
that
should
be
in
the
site
plan
to
go
on.
Yes,
it's
applications
for
site
plan
review
must
be
determined
to
be
complete
submittal,
as
indicated
by
the
requirements
on
the
site
plan,
review,
submittal
checklist
and
number.
C
G
C
B
G
Not
well
my
contention
is
is
that
you
can't
go
about
grading.
Do
this
amount
of
grading
without
a
permit,
and
so
this
is
not
a
buildable
site.
It's
not
it's
absolutely
not
a
billable
site,
because
you
can't
go
back
and
compact
this
loose
fill
after
it's
already
been
filled.
It
has
to
be
compacted
every
12
inches
and.
C
G
G
I'll
be
following
up
with
the
yeah
and
that's
Inspection
Department,
and
if
the
city
allows
us
I'll
be
retain
a
lawyer
as
well,
because
this
is
absolutely
unacceptable
and
I
I.
You
know
just
for
the
just
for
the
sake
of
building
a
Quality
quality
building,
that's
going
to
last
and
not
trying
to
rip
people
off.
G
A
B
D
D
F
I
think
the
only
thing
I
could
think
of
is
that
I
did
have
another
property
I
built
where
we
did
do
a
soil
test
and
the
soil
test
showed
that
the
dirt
was
loose.
So
we
had
to
dig
it
out
and
go
through
the
process
and
compact
all
that
down
I
mean
the
the
bottom
line
is
that
there
are
rules
already
in
place
to
adjust.
What
he's
talking
about
so
I
can't
just
build
a
house
on
loose
soil.
F
There
has
to
be
a
soil
test
done
and
it
has
to
be
a
certain
PSI
and
then
I,
don't
know
all
the
rules
and
everything.
But
if
it's
a
certain
PSI
your
footings
can
be
a
little
bit
bigger.
But
if
it's
a
looser
PSI,
then
you
have
to
dig
down
and
remove
all
that
dirt
and
either
fill
it
with
rock
or
more
compact
dirt.