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From YouTube: 04-20-23 Plan & Zoning Commission
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Des Moines Plan & Zoning Commission meeting on Thursday, April 20, 2023.
View the agenda: https://DSM.city/PZatHome
A
B
Welcome
to
the
April
20th
2023,
meeting
of
the
city
of
Des
Moines
plan
and
Zoning
Commission
I
will
now
read
the
rules
and
procedures.
The
plan
and
Zoning
commission
is
generally
an
advisory
body
to
the
city
council.
The
city
council
will
hold
a
public
hearing
and
make
the
final
decision
on
all
matters
before
the
commission
other
than
site
plans
and
subdivision
plots
and
less
details
or
conditional
approvals
thereof
are
appealed.
B
The
applicant
will
be
given
10
minutes
to
present
the
request
proponents,
and
then
opponents
from
the
public
are
then
allowed
to
speak
in
that
order
with
each
speaker
allowed.
A
maximum
of
five
minutes
applicant
is
then
allowed
five
minutes
for
a
rebuttal.
The
hearing
will
then
be
closed
and
the
commission
will
discuss
and
vote
on
the
issue.
B
Items
listed
on
the
consent
portion
of
the
agenda
will
not
be
individually
discussed
and
will
be
considered
for
approval
in
accordance
with
the
recommendation
in
the
staff
report.
Unless
an
individual
present
or
member
of
the
commission
requests
that
the
item
be
removed
from
the
consent
agenda
and
considered
separately
under
the
public
hearing
agenda.
B
Okay,
I
will
now
read
through
the
consent
agenda
items
number
one:
consideration
of
a
city
initiated
zoning
ordinance
text,
amendment
to
Municipal,
Code,
section
134-2.2.9
pertaining
to
planned
unit
development,
Legacy
districts.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
tonight
who
would
like
this
put
on
the
public
hearing?
B
Okay,
seeing
none
number
two
will
stay
on
consent
number
three:
a
request
from
Eric
Redmond,
for
review
of
a
public
hearing
site
plan
and
for
a
type
2
design
alternative
for
property
located
at
2915
Rutland
Avenue,
to
allow
construction
of
a
detached
garaged
with
two
foot
side
yard
and
rear
yard
setbacks,
where
a
minimum
setback
distance
is
five
feet.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
who
would
like
this
heard
in
the
public
hearing
tonight?
B
Seeing
none
item
three
will
remain
on
the
consent.
Agenda
item
number:
four:
a
request
from
David
de
board
for
a
review
of
a
public
hearing
site
plan
and
for
a
type
2
design
alternative
for
property
located
at
2700
41st
Place,
to
allow
construction
of
a
detached
garage
with
a
two
foot:
side
yard
and
rear
yard
setbacks.
Where
the
minimum
setbacks
distance
is
five
feet.
B
Yes,
okay,
that
will
also
be
removed
to
the
public
hearing
item
number:
six:
a
request
from
RM
Madden
Construction
for
review
of
a
public
hearing,
site
plan
and
type
2
design
alternative
for
property
located
at
2445
East
Douglas
Avenue,
to
allow
for
construction
of
a
house
a
building
type
with
an
attached
garage
overhead
door
that
comprises
42.6
percent
of
the
front
facade
or
a
maximum
allowable
width,
is
30
percent
of
the
front
facade.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
who
would
like
to
discuss
this
item
right?
Number.
B
G
Thank
you,
madam
cheers,
planning
staff.
The
item
before
you
is
a
residential
site
plan
requesting
a
type
2
design
alternative
to
seek
waiver
for
side
yard
and
rear
yard
setbacks
in
N5
neighborhood
District.
The
setback
requirements
for
this
particular
district
for
both
side
yard
and
rear
yard
setback
is
five
feet.
The
waiver
is
to
allow
two
feet,
so
this
is
the
property
it's
off
of
Sheridan
Avenue,
it's
in
the
Beaverdale
neighborhood
I
have
some
pictures
here
to
give
you
an
idea.
G
Here's
the
property
looking
on
on
the
surrounding
properties
gives
you
a
feel
for
what
the
houses
are,
the
character
of
the
neighborhood,
the
layout
and
so
on.
G
So
when
staff
is
reviewing
these,
these
kind
of
waiver
requests
there's
a
few
different
criterias
that
that
are
looked
at
in
order
to
to
review
this.
So
those
being,
what
is
the
character
of
the
adjacent
properties,
the
surrounding
neighborhood?
Does
that
fit?
Does
that
have
any
adverse
impacts
on
the
adjacent
neighbors?
That
kind
of
thing
and
does
it
fit
with
the
character
of
the
of
the
of
the
surrounding
neighborhood?
G
So
in
reviewing
all
of
those
criteria,
staff
thinks
that
this
waiver
request
is
something
that
we
can
support
and
therefore
we
are
recommending
that
the
requested
type
2
design
alternative
for
the
rear
and
side
yard
setback
be
approved.
So
that
is
the
end
of
my
presentation.
We
did
not
receive
any
comments
and
if
you
have
any
questions,
I'll
be
happy
to
take
them.
This
time.
H
Dave
debord
really
I'm
here
to
thank
staff
for
their
work.
We
lost
the
garage
in
a
bad
fire
unfortunate,
our
new
garage
with
these
New
Dimensions.
It
is
further
away
from
the
rear
lot
line.
It
is
further
away
from
the
side
Lot
line.
H
I
Jeffy
helmick
I
am
the
one
that's
trying
to
put
the
garage
back
up
for
him.
One
thing
that
he
mentioned
he's
trying
to
keep
this
garage.
I
So
but
that's
why
we're
trying
to
leave
it
at
this
location.
Plus
we'd
have
to
get
in
the
driveway
like,
like
with
mention
I,
think,
there's
a
a
telephone
pole
there
that
might
have
to
be
moved
to
so
and
then
the
sidewalk
going
up
to
it.
We'd
have
to
redo
all
the
sidewalk
and
the
the
vegetarian,
the
the
flower
bed
he
has.
There
would
be
all
in
the
fence
and
everything.
So
thank
you.
B
B
Okay,
seeing
none
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
or
not
the
public
hearing.
I'm.
Sorry
just
this
item.
Yes!
Well,.
J
Madam,
chair
I
was
struck
by
the
fact
that
no
one
excuse
me
no
one
from
the
adjacent
property
residents
raised
an
objection
about
this.
That
to
me,
is
quite
telling
they're
the
people
that
are
going
to
be
directly
affected
by
the
new
garage.
So,
within
that
context,
I
I
move
staff
recommendation.
Okay,.
B
There's
no
further
discussion
on
that
motion
and
we
can
vote
on
that.
All
those
in
favor
raise
your
right
hand.
B
K
Madam
chair
members
of
the
commission,
Nick
tarpy
planning
staff.
So
what
we're
talking
about
here
tonight?
It's
a
new
home
house
type,
a
n1b
zoning,
the
key
relief
there
is
the
length
of
the
facade
that
the
garage
takes
up
so
within
this
house
type,
the
maximum
that
a
garage
can
take
up
on
that
front
side
is
30
they're
proposing
about
42
percent.
So
they
do
need
to
seek
relief
for
that.
So
that's
the
specific
design
alternative
on
the
docket
tonight
so.
K
Aerial
of
the
site,
this
the
parcel,
the
subject
parcel,
is
highlighted
here
in
Orange.
Something
crucial
to
note
is
that
last
year
or
last
summer
there
was
a
Plata
survey
that
divided
this
land.
So
before
this,
if
you
follow
my
cursor
here,
it
was
all
one
parcel.
So
this
was
one
contiguous
geoparcel.
Last
summer
there
was
a
Plata
survey
submitted
to
do
a
land
subdivision
to
divide
this
one
parcel
into
three
separate
parcels
and
they
all
different
lot
widths.
K
So
this
one
is
about
65
feet,
and
then
these
two
are
about
59
and
a
half
feet.
The
minimum
lot
size
in
the
zoning
district
is
60
feet
as
staff,
though
we
did
approve
a
type
1
design
alternative
at
that
time,
when
the
platter
survey
came
in
to
allow
a
lot
width
of
59
and
a
half
feet,
so
this
existing
dwelling
here
on
the
far
East
it
could.
K
It
could
maintain
an
eight
foot
setback
from
this
new
parcel
line
that
was
created,
and
so
these
two
lots,
these
residual
lots,
have
lot
widths
of
59
and
a
half
feet.
So
that
might
come
up
later
again.
Tonight.
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
for
the
commission,
here's
just
some
street
view
imagery.
These
pictures
were
taken
this
week,
just
to
kind
of
give
you
an
idea
of
the
context.
K
Here's
an
up
close
View,
here's
the
site
plan.
So,
as
you
can
see,
a
lot
with
59
and
a
half
feet
got
a
seven
foot
set
back
here:
15
foot
on
this
side,
pretty
General
house
plan
conformance
to
all
the
setbacks
that
are
required.
K
Here's
that
front
elevation.
So,
as
you
can
see,
here's
that
garage
takes
up
about
42
percent
of
that
front,
facade
width
and
so
digging
into
the
staff
report
here
that
staff
who
thought
about
it
for
a
little
bit
generally,
we
were
supportive,
it
does
relatively
fit
the
the
existing
architectural
character
in
the
area.
There's
a
lot
of
homes,
there's
a
lot
of
dwellings
that
already
have
parking
in
a
front
yard,
so
it
wasn't
really
out
of
character
in
that
regard
and
then
also
the
garage.
It's
not
necessarily
just
a
blank
wall
garage.
K
B
B
All
right,
seeing
none
speakers
in
opposition
of
the
request
may
come
forward.
Yep.
L
M
L
When
it
should
have
been
60,
there's
enough
ground
there
to
make
both
of
these
Lots
60,
foot
and
I
understand,
it
was
an
executive
decision
to
run
it
through
and
and
make
them
59
and.
L
My
other
question
on
this
is
the
way
their
houses
are
laid
out.
I
thought
the
front
of
the
house
was
supposed
to
face
a
street.
You
know,
I
mean
all
the
other
homes
in
our
neighborhood.
The
fronts
of
the
house
face
the
street.
You
know
these
two
structures
have
a
garage.
They
have
an
entryway
to
a
hallway
and
a
bedroom
facing
the
street.
L
You
know,
there's
it's
it's
not
like
the
rest
of
the
houses
on
the
whole
street
on
East,
Douglas
or
lay
street
they're
all
different,
and
all
this
is
is
done
with
you
know.
Out
of
any
consideration,
I
mean
it's
been
a
it's
been
a
conversation
at
our
neighborhood
meetings
for
some
time,
but
nobody
had
any
answers,
and
this
is
this
is
my
concern.
I
mean
this
is
Douglas
Acres,
it's
been
there,
it's
called
Douglas
acres
for
a
long
time.
L
It's
been
that
way,
we're
trying
to
protect
the
neighborhood
and
maintain
the
neighborhood
there's
a
lot
of
other
areas
that
are
slack
on
vacant
homes
and
everything
else.
But
these
are
our
concerns
on
these
two
pieces
of
property.
B
B
F
And
while
he's
coming
up
here,
I'll
just
say,
staff
does
have
the
administrative
authority
to
Grant
deviations
up
to
30
percent
of
the
requirements.
So
the
lot
with
the
59.5
feet
was
less
than
one
percent
less
than
the
required
to
60
feet.
So
staff
did
go
ahead
and
Grant
that
administratively
last
summer,
as
Nikki
mentioned,
the
the
lot
was
divided
from
one
lot
into
three
lots.
F
It's
an
alternative
for
the
setback,
since
they
needed
to
provide
a
seven
or
eight
foot
side
yard
setback.
So
by
putting
the
lot
line
where
they
did,
that
allowed
the
existing
house
to
meet
the
setback,
requirements
and.
N
Hi,
my
name
is
Dean
Brown
I
have
a
3900
lay
Street
in
Douglas
Acres,
several
quite
a
few
years
ago,
several
years
they
wanted
to
build
a
house
on
East
25th,
and
that
house
was
going
to
be
the
the
seventh
house
that
was
placed
on
that
property
divided
up
okay,
and
at
that
time
we
got
it.
We
got
that
stopped
because
it
was
going
to
be
less
than
the
proper
footage
front
footage.
N
Now,
at
that
time
we
got
that
approved
by
the
city.
As
the
Integrity
of
Douglas
Acres,
the
the
Lots
we
have
I
live
on
the
West
Side
3900
Lake
Street.
Our
lots
are
118
feet
by
342.6,
which
we
lost
somewhere
along
the
line
on
on
the
new
County
records
on
the
east
side
of
the
street
on
the
east
side
of
the
street.
Them
lots
was
123
by
326
feet.
N
Okay,
so
he
brought
up
about
somebody
had
just
the
authority
to
go
within
so
many
percentage
and
say:
okay,
we
can
build
on
a
59
and
a
half
foot
lot.
Okay,
all
right!
So
anyway,
our
city
councilman.
Let
us
down
on
this
deal
should
have
cut
this
nip
this
in
the
bud
whenever
they
divided
that
before
and-
and
we
were
told
by
a
guy
over
here.
That
said,
that's
a
done
deal.
We
can't
change
that
now.
N
N
Now
another
question
I
have
over
this
past
few
days
of
this
week.
They've
dumped
several
loads
of
clay
in
there
evidently
gonna
bring
the
grade
up
the
street
to
build
on,
and
it's
my
understanding
that
to
properly
put
that
clay
and
pack
that
clay
that
they
should
have
taken
the
grass
out
of
there
in
in
1976
I
built
a
new
house
on
my
property
at
3900,
Lake,
Street
and
I
was
told
that
could
have
no
deleterious
material
under
that
dirt.
N
Now,
I'm,
just
wondering,
does
it
grass
deteriorate?
Isn't
that
a
delicious
material
how
they
can
buy
with
this
I
mean
this
doesn't
make
sense
to
me
that
somebody
come
in
there
and
say
well,
you
can
do
this.
You
can
do
that
we're
the
board
here.
We
can
adjust
this
by
so
many
percent
no
deal
no,
no
problem.
F
I
guess
first
I
just
want
to
read
about
you
said
the
council
member.
Let
you
down
the
council
member,
didn't
I,
guess
have
any
say
in
this:
it
was
that
approved
by
staff
administratively,
and
the
city
ordinance
allows
staff
to
deviate
up
to
30
and
again
a
half.
A
foot
is
less
than
one
percent
of
a
60-foot
white
lot,
so
staff
we
felt
it
was
reasonable
to
deviate
by
six
inches
and
then
the
other
question
about
the
soil
coverage
I'm,
not
following
what
that
word.
F
N
Well,
you
know
definitely
people's
not
aware
of
Douglas
Acres,
getting
there
large
lot
so-called
Acres,
it's
not
a
full
Laker
that
we
have,
but
if
you
do
the
math
320
342.6
times
118.,
it's
40
000
and
not
forty
three
thousand
Five
Sixty,
but
anyway
somebody
you
know
allowed
that
to
go
wrong
there.
You
know
when
they
had
plenty
of
room
in
that
other
house
to
right,
take
the
property
and
make
it
right
right.
I.
F
Mean
you
know
yeah
at
the
end
of
the
day,
though,
it
was
I
think
like
I
said
the
on
average,
the
three
lots
are
over
60
feet
wide
each
and
it
the
planet
survey
that
divided
it
has
been
approved.
So
the
only
course
of
action
at
this
point
would
be
to
file
an
appeal
in
District
Court.
N
N
O
N
N
N
Don't
understand
why
that
changed
now
you
you
follow
what
I'm
saying.
O
B
N
N
N
My
wife
said
that
the
garage
shouldn't
be
to
be
on
the
front
of
the
house.
They
people
shouldn't
be
living
in
a
garage.
The
garage
should
be
behind
the
house
where
people
will
and
I
could
go
into
when
I
built.
My
house
I
had
a
permit
73
to
build
my
garage.
N
Had
they
told
me
that
my
side
yard
consisted
where
my
graduate
would
have
to
be
seven
feet
from
the
lot
line.
I
would
have
moved
my
garage
over
because
of
that
I
could
not
build
my
house
where
I
wanted
to,
because
when
I
got
the
permit
to
build
the
garage
in
73,
it
was
only
three
feet
right.
So
now
I
was
now
I
was
out
of
luck.
B
P
B
So
again,
that's
not
the
item
in
front
of
us
tonight.
We
are
not
deciding
lot
lines.
That
was
something
that
was
decided
last
summer.
So
it's
not
really
something
we
can
address
tonight.
This
is
something
bird
already
said:
would
need
to
be
an
appeal
through
the
district
court
was
there
just
out
of
curiosity
was
that
on
a
public
hearing,
Administration.
F
It
was
administrative
and
the
criteria
that
staff
considers
is
does
the
proposed
lot
with
meet
the
character
of
the
area.
So
if
you
look
at
the
map,
that's
on
the
screen
right
now.
Everything
on
the
south
side
of
East
Douglas
Avenue
is
right
into
that
50
to
60
foot
wide
width,
so
staff
did
feel
that
the
59.9
or
59.5
foot
Woods
were
compatible
with.
What's
there
in
the
immediately
there.
P
Was
the
house
up
to
a
while
back
and
it
was
59
and
a
half
and
he
was
going
to
tear
down
the
house
and
build
another
house
and
they
turned
him
down
and
then
the
one?
Next
to
me,
it's
118
feet,
which
is
two
feet
short
and
they
turned
him
down.
But
my
question
is:
are
they
gonna
now
allow
them
to
do
that.
F
B
O
I
have
a
question
that,
since
we
didn't
have
the
person
applying
here
here,
one
of
the
questions
should
seem
to
be
that
I,
don't
think,
there's
any
other
houses
on
the
street
with
the
front
facing
garage
or
are
there.
Everything
else
looks
like
it's
on
the
back
all
the
materials
we
have
showed
on
the
back.
We
have
other
properties
that
are
the
same
with
all
the
garages
in
the
back
I.
O
F
I
mean
your
options
are.
Obviously
you
could
deny
the
appeal
or
you
could
continue
it
to
the
next
meeting
and
give
the
applicant
a
chance
to
come
and
answer
any
questions.
But
when
staff
was
looking
at
whether
or
not
the
proposed
houses
meets
the
character,
this
area
really
has
been
developed
with
a
pretty
eclectic
mix
of
houses.
There's
not
really
one
consistent
house
type
in
the
area.
Therefore,
we
thought
well,
it's
already
a
mix
adding
it
this
Home
Design
into
the
mix
isn't
going
to
be,
it
could
be
compatible.
F
Q
Thank
you,
I
was
in
the
neighborhood
here
today,
and
there
are
there.
Is
one
house
I
think
it's
across
the
street
and
down
a
little
bit
like
you
mentioned,
that
has
a
garage
in
the
front,
but
it
is
not
typical
at
all.
It
is
more
typical,
like
those
that
are
to
the
right
of
the
property,
where
you
can
maybe
see
a
little
bit
of
the
garage
from
the
street,
but
it's
the
driveway
along
the
side
of
the
house
I,
don't
know
why
they
wouldn't
want
to
go
that
way.
Q
I
drove
three
or
four
blocks
north
on
lay
Street
or
Lynn
Street,
whatever
that
is
I,
did
find
two
houses
that
had
front-facing
garages,
but
it
is
atypical
and
I
I
I'm
a
zero
fan
of
those
garages
in
the
front,
as
you
all
know,
so,
if
there's
anything,
we
could
do
to
not
do
that
it
would
make
it
would
really
be
good
for
me.
One
good
thing
that
is
happening,
though,
is
that
the
developer
is
putting
in
sidewalk
is
in
front
of
the
two
lots.
J
I
would
I
would
mention
to
the
commission
that
we're
looking
at
one
item
here,
but
we're
looking
at
another
item
here
as
well,
and
so
it's
going
to
be
not
what
we
have
heard
is
going
to
be
magnified.
You
know
by
two
instead
of
one
and
so
that's
going
to
I
think
that's
something
that
the
commission
should
take
into
consideration
seriously.
R
Since
they're
listed
separately,
I
I
mean
it
probably
should
be
heard
separately.
It's
just
kept
that
way,
but
obviously
some
of
it
can.
J
I'd
like
to
make
a
comment
about
that
I
looked
Douglas
Avenues
hasn't
has
an
excellent
and
long
reputation
for
a
community
action
and
I
I
salute
the
people
that
have
spoken
today
but
oftentimes.
When
there's
a
you
know
a
neighborhood
concern.
J
We
get
some
kind
of
written
documentation
or
emotion
from
the
neighborhood
association,
some
kind
of
official
you
know
act
rather
than
just
people
coming
up.
One-On-One
and
I
didn't
hear
anyone
representing
officially
the
neighborhood
association
I
could
be
wrong.
I.
F
N
B
My
comment
again,
that
was
that
was
decided
administratively
by
the
staff.
It
was
not
before
this
commission,
my.
J
Comment,
as
you
know,
to
as
a
suggestion
is
that
if
we
do
continue
this
for
your
your
neighborhood
association
to
meet
and
actually
I
haven't
heard
that
there
was
actually
a
vote
by
the
neighborhood
association
if
I
could
be
wrong
and
I'd
like
you
to
correct
me.
If
I
am
it's,
it's
not
your
turn
to
speak,
but
my
suggestion
is
to
have
an
official
act
by
the
neighborhood
association
to
you
know
to
strengthen
your
argument.
J
O
F
Tyler
said
that
they
emailed
him
today
and
asked
if
there
was
a
option
to
join
virtually
and
I,
don't
know
if
he
gave
a
reason.
Why
no.
A
B
Thank
you
all
right.
Thank
you
to
more.
Oh,
there
is
a
motion
on
the
on
the
board
of
Carolyn
to
continue
this
item
to
May
4th
meeting.
B
B
B
Item
number:
six:
welcome
back
Nick
request
from
RM
Madden
construction
for
property
located
at
2445,
East
Douglas
Avenue
for
the
same
item
for
the
same
request,
chair.
K
Members
of
the
commission,
Nick
tarpy
planning
staff.
Yes,
as
the
chair
mentioned,
it
is
the
same
request.
This
lot
is
just
to
the
the
East,
so
it's
kind
of
the
one
that's
wedged
in
the
middle
here,
so
very
similar
presentation
here,
's,
the
frontage
of
that
lot
same
house
plan,
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
different
architectural
detailing
on
the
front.
So
there's
some
shutters
this
kind
of
brow
action
here
above
the
garage,
so
that's
what
differentiates
it
from
the
other
one.
O
Did
the
applicant,
when
you
were
working
with
them,
provide
any
argument
as
to
why
the
garage
needed
to
be
on
the
front
like
was
the
argument,
something
like
oh
within
this
Market?
This
is
the
thing
that
anyone
else
buys
it
doesn't
matter.
It
looks
like
the
other
neighborhood.
Was
there
anything
like
that
or
what
argument
was
provided.
K
M
My
question
is,
since
this
is
similar
to
the
five,
why
can't
agency
moves
continue
this
motion
and
be
heard
a
few
at
the
same
date?
The
other
one
is
it?
Is
the
authority
to
do
that?
Isn't
that
correct.
B
R
Sorry
opening
it
for
the
public
hearing
first
and
going
through
that
again
getting
getting
their
opportunity.
Even
even
though
it's
a
separate
item
same
item,
I
understand
it's
still,
even
if
it's
redundant,
it's
a
separate
item
on
the
the
agenda
as
as
listed.
B
F
Madam
and
chair
members
of
commission
bird
Ross
planning
staff
for
the
city
item
number:
seven
is
a
city
initiated
rezoning.
The
city's
Neighborhood
Services
Department
directorate
actually
initiated
this
rezoning.
It
is
essentially
to
restore
residential
zoning
classifications
to
properties
that
were
previously
zoned
residential
under
the
retired
zoning
ordinance.
F
So
here's
the
yellow
area
shows
the
extents
of
the
rezoning
area
again.
Mari
street
is
the
southern
boundary
of
this
and
I'll
get
to
the
reasons
for
why
that
is
later.
But
it's
important
to
note
that
this
rezoning
covers
the
area
north
of
Mari,
that's
residential.
So
just
for
point
of
reference,
Southeast
30th
Street
is
here
at
the
right
side
of
the
screen.
The
Titan
tire
plant
is
here
at
the
North
West
corner
and
then
there's
some
salvage
yards
along
Mari
Street
here
to
the
West.
F
So
I'll
go
through
a
series
of
maps
now
so
this
map,
if
you
see
the
pink
line,
that's
the
boundaries
of
what's
being
rezoned,
but
the
other
colors.
The
blues,
yellows
Etc
is
the
retired
zoning.
So
you
can
see
the
yellow
was
r160.
That
was
a
single
family
district
with
a
minimum
lot
with
the
60
feet
that
was
under
the
retired
zoning
code.
So
you
can
see
where
the
pink
boundaries
is.
This
was
all
previously
zoned
residential.
There
were
two
Parcels
here
that
were
R3,
which
is
a
multi-family
residential.
F
So
the
next
map
is
the
city's
comprehensive
land
use
plan
map,
and
this
is
from
plan
DSM.
It
was
adopted
in
2016..
The
dark
blue
is
industrial.
Light
Blue
is
Business
Park,
so
it's
been
in
the
city's
land
use
plan
for
many
years
to
that
this
area
would
eventually
transition
to
either
industrial
or
to
Business
Park
uses.
As
a
as
when
the
area
was
up,
you
could
see
the
Martin
Luther
King
Junior
Parkway.
F
So
then,
when
the
city
adopted,
a
new
zoning
map
in
2019,
state
law
requires
zoning
to
conform
with
the
land
use
plan.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
those
areas
were
already
or
designated
as
business
park
and
Industrial
on
the
land
use
plan.
So
with
the
new
zoning
map,
the
areas
that
were
designated
as
industrial
were
zoned
as
industrial
and
then
the
areas
designated
as
business
park
where
design
were
zoned
to
GX.
So
again,
these
zoning
districts
have
been
in
place
since
2019.
F
Since
then,
we've
routinely
heard
from
citizens
who
are
concerned
that
you
know
there's
owned
ex
or
Zone
i1
they're
not
able
to
get
the
financing.
They
need
to
do
improvements
they're,
not
able
to
build
new
houses,
they're,
not
able
to
readily
expand,
and
so
I
guess.
After
Fielding
enough
of
these
complaints,
the
neighborhood
services
director
felt
like
okay.
This
area
is
not
transitioning
to
Industrial
or
Business
Park,
like
we
thought,
maybe
it's
just
time
to
rezone
it
back
to
residential.
F
So
that's
how
we
got
here
today-
and
this
is
just
the
aerial
you
can
see.
Berries
in
pink
are
pretty
much
all
single
family.
The
chest
cities
Chesterfield
park
is
in
this
area
here
in
the
middle
and
there's
three
churches
in
this
area
here
that
when
they
came
in
when
the
new
zoning
map
was
adopted,
they
came
into
Zone
P2
for
the
churches
and
the
part
was
P1,
so
staff's
not
proposing
to
change
those.
F
F
You
can
see
the
corner
of
it
here
and
there's
not
or
there
can't
be
any
residential
uses
within
1
000
feet
of
the
wastewater
treatment
plant.
That's
why
the
city
is
already
buying
out
all
of
the
houses
that
are
kind
of
in
this
area.
Here
and-
and
so
you
know
this-
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
is
a
pretty
big
investment.
F
It's
not
likely
that
the
city
will
ever
be
able
to,
for
the
WRA
will
ever
be
able
to
afford
to
relocate
it.
So
they're
pretty
much
set
in
this
location,
so
they've
been
doing
a
study
looking
at
what
land
the
WRA
might
need
to
acquire
in
the
future
and
there's
nothing
official,
that's
ever
been
decided,
but
it's
possible
that
the
WRA
is
going
to
have
to
buy
some
of
this
land
south
of
Mari
Street.
F
And
so
that's
why
we
used
Murray
Street
as
the
southern
boundary
of
this
resonance,
because
we
didn't
feel
it
would
be
responsible
of
the
city
to
rezone
anything
south
of
Mari
street.
That
would
allow
new
houses
to
get
built
that
then
the
WRA
and
the
taxpayers
would
ultimately
have
to
buy
and
then
tear
it
down
if
the
WRA
ever
expanded.
F
So
we
have
heard
from
several
homeowners
in
these
houses
south
of
Murray,
who
are
upset
that
they're
not
included
in
this
city,
initiated
rezoning
and
like
I,
said
City
didn't
feel
it
would
be
a
responsible
use
of
taxpayer
money
to
rezone
the
area.
South,
that's
not
to
say
that
individual
Property,
Owners,
South
Amari
couldn't
apply
for
rezoning
on
their
own
there's,
nothing
stopping
them
from
filing
their
own
rezoning
application.
That
would
be
considered
by
the
commission
and
ultimately
city
council
for
rezoning,
but
staff
isn't
comfortable,
I,
guess
recommending
rezoning
anything
south
of
Mari
to
residential.
F
So
this
map
here
I
know
there's
a
lot
on
here.
But
again
the
pink
represents,
what's
being
proposed
for
rezoning.
The
heavy
black
line
represents
what
was
previously
zoned
as
residential.
So
you
can
see.
The
pink
line
generally
follows
the
black
lines.
There
are
a
few
places
where
staff
has
deviated
I'll
just
point
those
out
those
three
churches.
I
mentioned
they
were
their
Zone
P2,
so
staff's
recommending
to
leave
those
as
P2
Chesterfield
Park
is
P1
staff's,
recommending
that
that
state
is
P1,
then
there's
a
parcel
right
here.
F
That's
owned
in
common
with
this
parcel
to
the
West,
so
it
made
sense
to
just
leave
those
since
it's
under
salium
ownership
to
leave
that
industrial
and
then
there's
Titan
tire
has
a
parking
lot
here.
That's
in
this
industrial,
so
it
made
sense
to
leave
that
parking
lot.
Industrial
and
then
the
North
Area
here
there's
a
United
steelworkers,
Union
Hall
that
staff
recommended
to
leave
that
zoned
ex,
since
the
union
hall
would
require
the
ex
zoning
rather
than
the
n3c,
which
is
the
neighborhood
District.
F
So
I
guess
I
went
through
most
of
the
history
on
this,
so
I'm
not
going
to
expand
on
that,
but
Steph
has
recommended
approval.
The
area
that's
being
rezoned.
The
land
use
plan
needs
to
be
amended
for
the
bulk
of
it
to
low
density
residential
and
then
we're
also
recommending
that
the
Chesterfield
Park
be
amended
to
park
in
open
space
and
that
those
three
churches
be
amended
to
public
semi-public
and
then,
as
far
as
the
resulting
goes,
we've
recommended
approval
of
the
rezoning
2n3c
neighborhood
District.
F
We
did
a
neighborhood
Outreach
meeting
on
March
29th.
We
had
sent
letters
to
everybody
within
the
rezoning
area,
plus
the
250
foot
notification
area
and
we
send
it
in
both
English
and
Spanish
again.
That
meeting
was
held
on
March
29.
We
had
about
12
to
15
people
attend
about
half
of
them
signed
in,
but
the
attendance
a
lot
of
the
people
that
were
there
I
might
be
here
tonight.
But
they
were
concerned
that
you
know
they
owned
property
south
of
Maury.
So
they
were
not
happy
that
they
weren't
included
in
the
rezoning.
E
F
F
F
A
B
Q
F
The
proposed
zoning
district
is
n3c,
which
is
only
one
household,
so
if
it
were
rezoned
like
n3c-2,
it
would
allow
up
to
two
dwellings
per
lot
or
if
it
were
zoned
n3c-4,
it
could
have
up
to
four
dwelling
units
per
lot.
The
one
caveat,
though,
is
if
they
do
an
accessory
dwelling
unit
in
n3c.
They
theoretically
could
have
two
dwelling
units
on
each
slot.
That
way,
I'm.
Q
A
F
Q
B
T
B
U
You
know
they're
sitting
there
saying
that
the
zoning
has
considered
it
in
Death,
industrial
and
then
back
into
City
Zoning
and
into
an
and
now
they're
trying
to
make
it
back
into
residential
Well
mine's
been
listed
as
a
family
farm
for
four
generations,
and
it's
been
commercial
and
it's
in
the
farm
Society.
U
U
V
V
V
Not
so
much
myself
is
that
my
daughter
and
her
husband
and
that
type
thing
for
the
future,
because
but
this
all
going
down
to
a
a
residential
strictly,
and
that
don't
give
me
much
you
know
because
I
got
it
was
like
10
acres
of
my
house,
and
it
gives
me
some
wiggle
room
to
be
able
to
do
different.
You
know
whatever
the
demand
demand
for
like
you
know.
I
am
part
the
state
fair
horse
trailers
in
there
right
now,
I've
been
doing
it
for
15
years.
V
D
V
Residential
and
I'm,
you
know
I
like
nice
place
and
all
that
type
of
stuff,
but
I,
don't
know,
I
think
they're
moving
a
little
quick
on
those
things,
because
it's
beside
the
churches,
I
really
don't
see
anybody's
except
the
Builder
wanting
to
build
down
there
and
they.
You
know
everybody
wants
to
make
their
own
money
in
their
own
Court.
You
know
in
that
wrong
fat,
but
I,
don't
know
about
being
dominant
with
the
residential.
You
know,
I
mean
they
build.
V
A
V
V
I'm
not
completely
in
favor,
because
I
just
think
it's
too
for
me
personally,
where
I'm
at
oh
sorry.
V
V
Fact,
I
just
got
done:
building
a
100
by
200
pad
that's
going
to
build
another
barn
equipment.
You
know
another
barn
and
then
we
just
cope
would
take
it
off
coming
down.
So
I
stopped,
but
I've
done.
It
all
feel
great.
Somebody
built
a
new.
B
F
F
W
B
V
B
W
I'm
Tony
holt129
Southeast,
29th
Court,
it
is
the
bigger
red
block
there,
I'm
also
a
neighbor
to
Terry
for
the
last
20
years.
I
think
the
concern
is
not
I
think
we
support
everybody
else.
That's
in
the
residential
to
get
residential,
but
in
his
case
like
to
block
it
out
and
believe
it
Industrial
as
it
currently
stands,
as
he
said,
he's
helped
the
he
works
with
the
fairgrounds
and
he
uses
it.
W
The
other
thing
to
note
about
his
property
is:
it
does
have
a
history
behind
it
and
it's
been
a
landfill
and
to
Zone
at
residential
houses.
Over
top
of
it
might
not
be
the
wisest
staff
were
an
industrial
youth
that
probably
has
a
money
to
clean
it
up
and
use
it
properly
and
meaning
it
is
10
acres
next
to
the
railroad
it
to
its
future,
as
a
industrial
property
is
probably
way
more
valuable
to
the
city.
X
2563
Ryan's
border
of
the
Arizona
and
the
south
of
Mary
Street.
The
this
question
is
kind
of
weird,
because
the
question
is:
are
you
approved
or
opposite
the
responding
to
residential?
Is
you
are
it's?
It's
I
need
to
answer
as
a
reason
and
agree
with
the
reasoning,
because
the
residential
is
good
for
the
neighborhood
and
it's
good
for
each
family
in
the
home.
But
there's
no
a
question.
X
X
Understand
everything,
but,
and
and
what
I
I
just
request
that
this
can
be
possible,
get
a
new
study
for
include
in
the
restaurant
in
the
houses
there
will
be
that
were
excluded,
for
example,
my
the
South
Side,
yet
they
explaining
already
in
the
south
side
of
Mary.
What
group
and
I
never
received
any
later
that
say
in
the
future.
You'll
have
will
be
exclude
from
the
from
the
reasoning
I
just
received
it
later
with
the
market
and
everything,
and
and
that's
it
and
I.
X
Look
like
okay,
I'm
outside
right,
I
want
to
be
in
and
I'm
living
in
this
play
for
five
years
living
by
myself,
but
I'm,
building
a
family
now
and
I,
and
now
it's
my
home
so
and
it's
my
neighborhood
and
I
think
that's
natural
that
the
place
that
you
consider
your
home
and
you're
building
a
family.
You
want
to
be
part
of
the
better
reasoning
as
a
bearer
path
to
residential
reasoning,
so
iPad
test,
more
benefits
and
I
understand.
That's
more
benefits
and
everything
possible.
X
B
D
Hello,
everyone,
I'm,
Maya,
Williams
and
I,
live
at
728
Southeast,
27th,
Court,
hi,
Justin
and
I
would
like
to
back
up
her
on
their
conversation
about
the
range
of
the
zoning.
D
That's
going
to
be
resume
to
residential
as
the
concerns
that
there
were,
that
is
difficult
to
build
onto
your
house
and
not
be
able
to
do
things
that
are
residential
is
available
to
do
so
because
of
the
business
park
and
the
and
the
industrial
park
that
is
that
is
currently
I
am
not
sure
why
the
Water
treatment
is
being
more
like
is
Superior
in
the
decision.
Despite
the
people
who
live
in
this
neighborhood
and
have
been
here
since
Chesterfield,
is
the
original
neighborhood
of
Des
Moines
I?
D
D
If
someone
would
give
that
to
me,
that'd
be
amazing,
but
I
would
just
like
to
state
that
I
do
disagree
with
this
and
I
feel
like
the
restrictions
should
be
less
in
in
3C
I
feel
like
it
should
have
more
options
for
multi-family
or
if
we
do
want.
I
know
that
you
mentioned
that
someone
wanted
a
convenience
store.
It
would
be
great
to
have
a
grocery
store
in
that
area
and
rezoning
it
to
purely
N3.
D
B
F
The
I
guess
rezonings
can
be
initiated
any
one
of
three
ways:
one
the
property
owner
could
initiate.
The
rezoning
to
the
city
council
could
initiate
rezoning
or
three.
The
neighborhood
services
director
could
initiate
the
rezoning,
so
like
planning
is
actually
within
development
services
department.
So
it
was
the
neighborhood
services
department,
which
is
where,
like
zoning
enforcement,
is
housed
they're,
the
that
initiated
the
rezoning.
F
So
that's
really
the
impetus
and
it
came
out
of
I-
know
they're.
You
know
hear
a
lot
of
hear
from
a
lot
of
people
who
want
to
build
decks,
build
garages
on
their
houses.
They
want
to
sell
their
properties
and
have
trouble
getting
financing
so
I
think
they're,
just
tired
of
hearing
from
so
many
people
having
issues
with
the
industrial
and
the
ex
District
that
they
reached
a
point
where
they
said.
Okay,
it's
time
to
rezone
it
back
to
a
residential
district.
O
I
had
one
sorry
as
it
seemed
like
we
went
from
Business
Park
and
now
we're
swinging
all
the
way
back
to
residential.
Is
there
a
reason
that
we
didn't
pick
a
different
zoning
type?
That
would
you
know,
really
truly
Empower
a
more
mixed
use
and
actually
more
historically
accurate
mix
of
uses
for
this
area.
F
Yeah
I
mean
that's.
The
same
point
Carol
had
earlier
was
that
maybe
the
one
family
or
one
household
residential
is
inappropriate,
but
I
guess
the
intent
of
the
neighborhood
services
director
was
just
to
restore
it
to
what
was
there
under
the
retired
code.
So
predominantly
I'll
go
back
to
that
initial.
F
This
map
here,
yellow,
was
one
family
residential,
then
Brown.
So
the
gentleman
that
we
heard
from
a
little
bit
ago
on
these
Lots
here
his
property
was
on
R3
and
then
there's
one
lot
here
along
the
south
side
of
MLK
East
MLK
Parkway,
that
was
Zone
R3
multi-household,
but
everything
else
was
zoned
r160,
which
was
one
family,
and
so
the
idea
was
just
to
restore
it
to
the
one
family
with
one
household
per
line.
There's.
B
S
F
F
Because
the
WRA,
if
you
see
there's
an
old
railroad
right
away
here
at
an
angle,
so
the
existing
WRA
facility
is
south
of
that
and
there
can't
be
any
residential
uses
within
1000
feet
of
that.
So
a
big
chunk
of
this
area,
south
of
Murray,
is
already
within
a
thousand
feet,
but
then
there's
the
chance
that
you
know
in
say
40
years,
100
years,
the
WRA
needs
to
expand
because
it
just
wouldn't
be
financially
feasible
to
pick
up
and
move
the
whole
WRA
facility
elsewhere.
F
F
Y
F
Q
Yes,
question:
Miss
Williams
your
question
about
the
Legacy
Park
Chesterfield,
Park,
I'm,
pretty
sure:
that's
that's
right
in
the
middle
there
and
it
is
retained
right.
It's
going
to
be
Parkland.
Q
And
I
saw
on
some
of
the
comment
cards.
I
think
that
there
was
concern
about
traffic
increasing
with
this
zoning
change.
Can
you
address
where
those
concerns
may
come
from
and
and
yeah.
F
I
I
read
those
two
I
to
be
honest,
I
couldn't
understand
unless
people
didn't
want
that
they
get
locks
to
be
developed
with
new
houses.
Okay,
I
think
under
the
current
zoning
is
industrial
and
Business
Park.
You
could
by
right
have
some
uses
built
that
would
generate
a
lot
more
trips
than
the
single
family
houses.
U
Q
For
temporary
storage
or
for
horse
trailers
during
the
state,
fair
that
is
I'm
pursuing
a
potential
citation.
F
F
Q
B
F
The
existing
use
would
be
allowed
since
he
has
more
than
an
acre.
He
could
have
the
horses,
so
I
think
the
existing
use.
You
know
I,
but
if
the
commission
wanted
to
recommend
that
that
property
be
left,
industrial
I,
don't
think
staff
wouldn't
object
to
that.
F
Sure,
yeah
and
I
visited
with
him
a
little
bit
like.
He
has
two
lots
here
that
he
just
there's
a
house
and
then
he
has
storage
of
his
own
personal
trailers
in
the
backyard
under
the
n3c.
He
could
still
do
that
and
he
asked
he
was
saying
he
wants
to
have
big
Gardens
back
there.
That's
also
allowed
in
the
n3c
district,
so
I
didn't
hear
any
him
say
anything
that
wouldn't
be
allowed
in
n3c.
F
F
O
F
I
think
I
would
at
least
be
hesitant
for
MX3,
because
it
allows
Like
Liquor
Stores
the
bars.
It
allows
several
uses
that
really
aren't
good
matches
to
have
next
door
to
a
one
household
property.
So
say
you
had
lived
in
one
of
these
homes.
I,
don't
think
you
would
want
your
neighbor
to
develop
their
property
as
like
a
bar
and
then
you'd
be
living
next
door
to
a
bar.
F
Like
right
now,
under
M
or
i1,
the
industrial,
some
pretty
obnoxious
uses
could
go
in
there
by
right
today
and
be
adjoining
some
of
these
houses
as
well
and.
F
And
when
the
comp
plan
was
done
in
2015
2016,
it
really
was
the
thought
that,
oh
now,
with
MLK
coming
through
this
area
is
going
to
be
right.
For
you
know,
some
new
industrial
uses
some
new
heavier
commercial
uses
and
that
just
hasn't
happened
in
those
last
seven
years
and
that's
a
big
reason.
The
neighborhood
services
director
was
ready
to
initiate,
initiate
this
rezoning.
Z
I
have
a
question
about
the
the
thousand
feet
boundary
is.
Where
is
that
taken
from
it.
F
AA
F
Z
AA
F
But
again
that
wasn't
part
of
this
application.
Okay
and
like
rezoning,
should
be
initiated
three
ways
by
Council
by
the
property
owners
or
by
The
Neighborhood
Services
Department
director.
So
it
would
take
one
of
those
three
entities
to
initiate
a
rezoning,
South,
the
Murray,
so
I
think
the
fastest
way
for
these
Property
Owners
is
just
to
initiate
it
themselves
for
their
own
properties.
Wait.
F
F
Council
right
when
the
city
council
could
decide
whether
or
not
initiate
it
yeah
right,
yeah,
it's
part
of
that
is
a
good
idea.
I
mean
it's
part
of
your
recommendation.
Design.
If
you
say,
staff
or
commission
recommends
approval
of
this
rezoning
plus
we
recommend
initiation
of
a
rezoning
south
of
Mari
to.
A
T
A
F
S
So
I
think
I
have
three
questions,
because
I'm
I'm
really
confused.
So
my
first
question
is
what
is
actually
wrong
with
the
current
usage.
People,
indeed,
are
not
able
to
build
decks,
and
is
that
in
part,
because
the
banks
doesn't
see
that
the
zoning
is
correct
to
get
their
investment
back
yeah.
F
F
S
Right
I
didn't
answer
that
one
then
my
next
one,
so
we've
heard
from
the
public
what
I
guess
this
will
be
actually
how
I
actually
vote
so
I
need
this
answer
really.
Well
what
problems
and
I
tell
you
what,
but
what
problems
will
happen
if
we
do
rezone
this?
The
way
that
the
city
is
recommending.
F
I
guess
the
biggest
problem
I
see
is
that
if
say,
Titan
tire
wanted
to
expand
or
say
the
salvage
yard
at
the
West
Side
wanted
to
expand.
Then
they
would
have
to
come
in
and
rezone
their
property
right
now
in
under
this
industrial
Titan
tire
could
buy
these
properties
and
do
an
expansion
into
the
neighborhood.
R
B
F
O
But
if
we
do
do
a
rezoning,
you
end
up
with
the
inertia
behind
that,
where
a
corner
grocery
store
or
multi-family
would
have
more
impediment
to
actually
do
that
than
if
we
basically
just
allowed
for
it
now.
So
if
we
said
look
this,
this
neighborhood
you're
looking
for
is
too
restrictive.
You
know
that
would
make
it
easier
for
them
to
actually
do
a
truly
proper
multi-use
neighborhood,
which
I
think
is
what
part
of
the
Public's
asking
for
and
probably
makes
the
most
sense
for
our
community
anyway,
right.
F
Again,
I
would
just
point
out
that
the
area
is
pretty
much
100,
surrounded
by
a
fairly
intense
industrial
use
of
Titan
tire,
the
WR
salvage
yards,
east
and
west.
So
you
know
realistically,
are
we
going
to
see
condos
go
in
there?
I
don't
know,
but
I
just
think.
Given
you
know,
this
is
a
fairly
small
residential
pocket
within
an
industrial
area.
I
just
don't
know
that
we're
going
to
see
the
an
excuse
or
the
multi-household
uses
go
in
there.
Y
Y
F
O
Would
the
path
there
be
a
continuation
with
her
recommendation
on
both
the
use
and
the
boundary
be
reconsidered?
Is
that
something
I
mean
I?
This
is
what
I
can't
really
understand,
because
I
don't
approve
of
this
map.
I,
don't
like
this
map.
I!
Think
that
we've
gone
from
a
long-range
plan
that
I
think
was
a
bad
plan.
We've
now
gone
to
a
long
range
plan
that
doesn't
look
long
range.
O
There
should
be
a
middle
and
the
question
is:
what
are
we
allowed
to
do
right
here
to
indicate
that
the
community-
and
we
do
not
believe
sorry-
not
all
of
we
sorry
the
community
in
some
of
we
believe
that
it's
not
the
right
approach,
what
actually
gets
the
door
open
to
both
adjust
boundary
and
use?
What
would
be
that
record
right.
F
I
think
it
would
be
recommending.
You
know:
approval
of
the
area
north
of
Maury,
but
also
with
the
recommendation
that
Council
initiates
rezoning
the
area
south
of
Mari
as
well
I
mean
I,
don't
know
how
you
would
otherwise,
you
would
say
I
would
recommend
denial
unless
Council
initiates
the
rezoning
of
the
area,
South
Amari.
O
B
B
Okay,
commission
discussion
or
emotions.
O
S
Z
I
tend
to
disagree
with
that
in
that
I
think
that
what
is
proposed
to
be
rezoned
does
make
sense.
I
think
the
area
south
of
Maury
should
be
rezoned
as
well,
and
that
we
should
recommend
city
council
initiating
that,
but
I
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
what's
shown
as
a
first
step.
Q
I
I
would
not
want
to
go
next
use,
I
think
maybe
more
dense,
residential,
two
or
three
flat
was
the
basis
of
my
question
regarding
single
family.
Only.
Q
Mixed
juice
doesn't
seem
right
to
me
in
there
I.
That's
why
I
was
asking
about.
I
was
picturing
two,
maybe
three
flat,
that
on
the
residential
side.
O
I
would
have
moved,
I
would
remove
sorry,
wood
move
not
remove.
I
would
move
to
reject
the
plan.
B
B
A
Z
Yeah
I
can
make
a
motion
move
staff
with
an
additional
recommendation
that
the
area
south
of
Mori
be
in
the
rezoning
of
that
area
be
initiated
by
city
council
right.
Although.
G
B
Q
A
B
B
F
I
didn't
hear
anything
that
would
I
know
the
gentleman
who
said
he's
in
its
fourth
generation
of
this
Farm
on
Southeast
25th.
It
sounds
like
those
are
all
uses
allowed
in
n3c,
the
residential
use,
the
storage
of
personal
trailers,
the
big
Gardens,
the
I
guess,
Urban
agriculture
is
allowed
and
then
the
one
on
the
northeast
corner,
where
the
horse
farm
is
allowed.
F
I,
guess
that
one
I'd
be
more
comfortable
with
leaving
it
zoned
I
forget
if
it's
ex
or
i1,
but
if
that
would
be
excluded,
then
that
would
give
them
more
rights
for
their
property.
But
again
since
it's
over
an
acre,
they
are
allowed
to
have
the
residential
use
with
some
animals,
like
horses.
So.
S
O
F
Have
to
look
at
the
youth
table
because
it's
not.
O
F
O
F
U
But
eventually
I
was
taking
on
taking
over
my
grandpa's
farming
deal
and
history
and
produced
farming
for
them.
For
me,
see
I've
got
my
cousin
yeah.
B
B
F
B
X
O
I've
been
banging
on
about
this
one
for
months,
so
yeah
saying
this
is
a
significant
problem.
This
actually
does
affect
him
and
plenty
of
others
when
we're
talking
about
Urban,
Agriculture
and
densifying
City.
This
372
is
a
major
problem
that
we
really
really
need
to
fix.
If
we're
serious
about
it,.
S
O
B
If
we
leave
those
two
properties
industrial
would
they
still
be
like
grandfathered
in
for
what
their
their
uses
are
right
now,
so
they
wouldn't
need
to
do
a
conditional
use.
F
F
T
B
B
A
friendly
amendment
to
exclude
that
property
I,
don't
know
the
exact
address.
U
B
So
as
Bert
just
to
confirm
with
them,
is
that
enough
for
you,
Tyler
do
I
need
to
that.
Have
more
specific
verbiage
there,
okay,
okay,
we're
clear
to
exclude
those
properties
from
the
rezoning,
that's
acceptable
to
me.
Thank
you.
O
W
O
F
B
B
A
request
from
Penske
Leasing
Company
for
a
review
of
a
public
hearing
site
plan,
Penske
Truck
Rental
for
property
located
at
4101,
East,
14th
Street
for
type
2
design,
alternatives
to
allow
exterior
light
poles
up
to
30
feet
in
height
or
a
maximum
height
for
exterior
light.
Poles
is
20
feet
and
to
allow
an
adjustable
Pullman
to
pull
mounted
light
fixture
when
cut
off
directional
lighting
is
required.
AB
Evening
Madam
chair
members
of
the
commission:
this
is
Penske
Leasing
Company,
requesting
these
type
2
design
alternatives
for
a
site
plan
that
was
submitted,
they're
doing
site
improvements
for
the
On-Site,
Truck
and
Transportation
terminal
use
here's
a
map
of
the
project
site,
it's
6.16,
Acres,
it's!
It
was
kind
of
pre-existing,
but
it
did
recently
re-zone
to
an
I-1
District
to
allow
for
the
expansion
of
that
truck
and
Transportation
terminal
use.
AB
The
applicant
has
proposed
some
additional
lighting
to
go
along
with
these
site
improvements.
Here's
their
photometric
plan,
their
proposing
18,
adjustable
light
fixtures
and
five
30-foot
poles
on
site.
It's
kind
of
hard
to
see
here,
but
when
the
lines
are
coming
off
of
here
on
their
plan,
there's
going
to
be
three
fixtures
on
each
poles
and
then
they're
going
to
have
some
pictures
on
the
back
end
of
their
building.
Here
these
will
be
oriented
towards
the
Eastern
portion
of
the
property.
I
can
go
back
to
the
aerial
view
too,
if
you
need
help
with
that.
AB
Currently,
these
are
proposed
to
be
these
fully
adjustable
light
fixtures,
they're
called
to
reform
medium
flood
lights.
They
have
the
ability,
the
applicants
send
some
examples
of
their
ability
to
be
adjusted
to
different
angles.
Code
does
require
cutoff
type
fixtures
down
facing
to
minimize
glare
and
impacts
onto
adjoining
properties.
AB
So
two
of
these
examples
here
kind
of
show
that
it
has
a
pretty
wide
freedom
of
adjustability
to
shine
in
different
directions.
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
have
them
at
45
to
60
degree
angles
and
their
current
photometric
plan,
which
I
showed
on
the
previous
slide,
is
meeting
our
maximum
foot
candle
requirements
required
by
code
they're
up
to
two
at
the
proper
two
foot
candles
at
the
property
lines.
So
with
the
proposed
angles,
they
are
meeting
that
maximum
requirements
they're
at
that
requirement
or
below
the
requirements.
AB
We
recognize
from
a
staff
perspective,
that's
for
these
Trucking
and
transportational
use
terminal
uses.
You
have
to
provide
adequate
lighting
for
maneuvering
on
sites
and
providing
security.
We've
had
similar
sites
with
in
the
Metro
within
Des
Moines,
who
have
had
these
similar
uses,
and
they
have
conformed
they've
used
cutoff
type
fixtures.
They
may
be
asked
for
an
extension
to
increase
the
height
of
the
pole
from
20
feet
to
30
feet.
They
seem
to
do
well
with
the
cutoff
type
fixtures.
AB
Basically,
the
recommendation
that
they're
not
going
to
use
adjustable
type
fixtures
on
top
and
to
have
the
approved
cutoff
type
fixture,
directional
fixture
approved
by
the
development
services
director
a
recommendation
for
the
adjustable
light
fixtures.
There's
too
many
variables
involved.
We
have
the
photometric
plan
here,
initially,
that's
showing
that
it's
within
the
foot
candles,
but
after
the
site
plans
approved
this
could
be
adjusted
into
the
future.
It
could
have
higher
impacts
onto
properties
adjoining
properties
have
higher
impacts
on
to
just
light
pollution
within
the
area.
AB
AB
B
And
it's-
and
this
might
be
a
question
for
the
applicant,
but
is
there
any
comparison
drawing
of
what
a
cutoff
fixture?
What
coverage
that
would
have
as
far
as
candles
on
the
property.
AB
Yeah
I'm
not
sure
on
that
the
applicant
would
have
to
speak
to
that
on.
Okay,
the
reasoning
for
choosing
these
fixtures.
Okay.
AC
I
want
to
thank
staff
for
for
looking
looking
at
our
our
request
and
granting
the
30-foot
pole
require
a
request
that
we
had.
We
are
asking
for
also
approach
the
commission
to
approve
the
adjustable
light
when
we
discussed
this
the
whole
point
of
adding
these
light
poles,
and
this
is
for
Safety
and
Security
of
our
employees,
and
also
customers
that
are
on
our
Lots
after
after
during
the
during
night
times
also
for
security,
there's
a
rash
of
catalytic
converters
that
are
stolen
every
day
in
Des,
Moines
and
lighting.
AC
The
lot
in
this
specifically,
this
area
lot
will
help
in
deterring.
That
is
one
of
our
one
of
our
main
concerns
in
in
doing
the
adding
the
sliding
when
we
talked
with
Baker
Electric.
Who
is
the
contractor
that
we
we
contracted
with
to
come
up
with
the
phone
manager,
photometric
design,
they're
the
ones
that
wrecked
they
gave
us
a
recognition
of
the
30-foot
poles
with
the
adjustable
lights?
AC
They
can
be
adjusted
like
you
said
anywhere
from
zero
to
ninety,
but
so,
if
it,
if
you
can
do
25
or
30
degrees,
when
I
discuss
that
with
the
contractor,
we
could
allow
the
whole
the
lighting
of
our
since
they
all
face
in
the
lighting
of
the
interior
of
that
lot
of
our
lot.
At
that
degree,
with
them
being
horizontally
down,
the
the
interior
of
the
lot
but
based
on
the
size
would
not
be
covered
by
the
lighting
being
at
a
at
the
the
downward
facing
we
are.
AC
This
property
is
surrounded
all
industrial.
There
is
no
residential,
that's
in
a
distance
that
would
that
would
disturb
them,
and
also
the
contractor
did
state
that,
after
the
installation
of
the
poles
and
the
lighting,
they
would
be
coming
back
to
verify
that
the
lighting
is
contained
within
the
lot,
our
lot
and
our
property
line
and
would
not
affect
any
of
our
neighbor
neighboring
businesses.
Y
AC
I,
don't
know
who
else
is
asked
for
the
lighting
to
be
this
way,
art
when,
when
I
was
asking
the
contractor
to
design
a
photometric
plan
that
would
throw
enough
light
to
get
to
the
middle
a
lot
using
based
on
this
being
a
part.
The
the
area
behind
the
building
is
mainly
for
parking
of
equipment
and
the
equipment
is
new,
normally
tractors
and
trailers,
and
straight
trucks
that
have
a
13
and
a
half
foot
to
14
foot
height,
so
with
the
poles
being.
AC
If,
if
along
in
order
to
get
light
into
that
very
middle
of
the
lot
it
was,
we
would
require
an
angle
to
the
the
actual
fixtures
in
order
to
project
that
that
into
the
middle
of
the
lot.
AC
That'd
be
detrimental
to
the
business
as
far
as
the
parking
that
we
have
there
I
shouldn't
judgmental
is
probably
a
strong
word.
It's
it
would
be.
It
would
limit
the
amount
of
parking
that
we
could
that
our
customers
could
utilize
for
the
business.
Q
Thank
you
currently,
there's
in
I
guess:
I
was
more
in
the
front
of
the
building.
There's
a
wooden
pole
that
appears
to
have
solar
lights
on
it.
Are
you
familiar
with
that.
AC
Q
AC
AC
We
I
mean
I,
guess
the
color
I'd
have
to
talk
to
the
contractor
to
understand
the
coloring
of
the
the
polls
to
understand
what
that
would
look
like.
Okay,.
Q
AC
That
so
the
existing
lighting,
that's
around
the
building
right
now,
projects
only
about
I
would
say
15
to
20
feet
from
the
building
and-
and
it
was
mainly
for
the
door,
the
the
doors
of
the
of
the
the
bay
doors
for
our
maintenance
shop.
AC
Q
O
AC
Properties,
no
there's
not
been
a
study
on
that
as
far
as
as
far
as
that,
as
far
as
our
neighbors
lighting
protruding
on
our
property,
I
I
do
not
know
because.
O
It
seems
that
would
be
a
good
argument
for
identifying
that,
whatever
your
design
is
is
not
actually
contributing
to
pollution
outside
your
property.
That
seems
like
that
would
be
a
positive
way
to
look
at
what
the
intent
of
this
ordinance
would
be
if
you're
looking
to
do
something
different.
The
second
one
is
when
we're
looking
at
what
you're
looking
at
here
is
any
are
any
of
these
lights
facing
towards
a
boundary,
it's
all
on
a
boundary
facing
in,
isn't
it.
That
is
correct.
AC
O
O
So
it
seems
like,
if
we're
looking
to
go
somewhere
different
if
we
know
that
you're
not
actually
exceeding
the
current
pollution
at
your
boundary
with
an
angle
that
seems
like
that
could
be
a
logical
solution
to
fit
everyone's
Bill.
Wouldn't
it
or
is,
is
that
been
discussed
with
you
and
staff
before
or.
A
AC
B
As
far
as
the
adjustable
lighting,
is
it
something
that
you
set
at
a
certain
angle
and
then
leave
it's,
not
something
that
you
would
adjust
that's
at
different
times
or
no
at
another
time,
you
wouldn't
say
you
know,
instead
of
thirty
percent
angle
or
a
30
degree
angle,
we
want
a
60
degree
angle,
you
just
you
install
it
at
that
set
angle.
A
AC
If,
if
the,
if
staff
would
need
to
come
out
after
their,
if,
if
it
is
approved,
as
far
as
a
as
far
as
having
angled
lights,
you
know
staff
could
come
out
and
and
review
what
the
the
contractor
has
done
to
make
to
ensure
that
the
lighting
is
at
is
is
conducive
to
what
everybody's
comfortable
with.
AC
F
J
J
Ahead,
oh
during
the
staff
presentation,
we
didn't
see
actually
what
the
adjoining
properties
how
they
function.
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
one
available
staff,
but
you
could.
Could
you
tell
us
yeah
what
the
surrounding
properties,
what
function
they
fulfill.
H
AB
So
the
adjoining
properties
are
kind
of
similar
uses:
Warehouse
Transportation
terminals
for
Trucking
to
the
north
west.
You
have
a
car
dealership
and
possible
development
for
another
car
dealership
on
the
North
angle,
yeah
they're,
mostly
the
same
use
down
to
the
South
West,
there's
a
self
storage
building
directly
to
the
South.
That's
kind
of
more
of
that
Trucking
and
Transportation
terminal
use.
A
B
Right
there
are
no
more
questions
from
the
commission
for
the
applicant.
We
can
move
on
to
comments
from
the
audience
if
there
is
anyone
in
support
of
this
item,
who
would
like
to
speak
if
you
can
come
forward
now?
O
Yes,
I,
don't
know
how
he
phrase
it.
I
would
like
to
move
that
we
allow
for
angling
of
the
lights
so
long
as
any
angle
does
not
violate.
You
know
violate
light
pollution
requirements
relative
to
what's
currently
there
I'm
not
entirely
sure.
We
state
that,
though
I
I,
don't
think
we
need
them
to
be
straight
down.
So
I
think
I
am
opposed
to
what
staff's
requirement
is
for
them
to
be
straight
down,
but
I
don't
want
them
to
be
angled
such
that
we
are
causing
pollution
outside
the
boundaries.
AB
Y
Thank
you.
We
could
approve
it
per
the
installation
that
was
modeled
in
the
photometric
plan.
O
That's
my
I
apologize
because
I
I
hate
using
specific
angles.
If
we
don't
really
know
what
their
effect
is,
but
I
guess
if
we're
saying
that
the
we're
approving
the
plan
depending
on
having
to
modify
if
there's
a
violation
of
pollution
levels,
yes,
is
that
not
to
make
it
even
more
confusing
sorry
trying
to
Circular
it
Okay
so
so
we're
basically
rejecting
staff?
Aren't
we.
F
F
Or
subject
to
provision
of
like
photometric
plan
that
demonstrates
the
light,
won't
cross
property
lines.
O
B
Foreign,
that's
the
that's
the
motion.
All
those
in
favor
raise
your
right
hand.
F
B
You
got
that
title.
Okay,
you
will.
Okay,
all
right
item
number:
nine,
a
request
from
the
greater
Des
Moines
Habitat
for
Humanity
regarding
property
located
at
4320
East
46th
Street
for
the
following:
a
review
and
approval
of
a
preliminary
plot,
habitat
East
46th
development
to
allow
for
development
of
15.
One
household
residential
lots,
Shawna
Baron
from
staff
will
present.
AA
AA
Item
B
relating
to
the
installation
of
sidewalks
has
been
withdrawn
by
the
applicant
as
they
have
agreed
to
install
the
required
sidewalks
as
well
as
the
sidewalk
connection
to
the
school.
Therefore,
we
will
only
be
discussing
item
a
tonight.
I
would
like
to
note
that
staff
is
in
support
of
the
proposed
development,
with
the
condition
that
a
street
stub
be
provided
to
the
Southwest.
AA
AA
The
subject
property
is
currently
undeveloped.
The
proposed
development
is
for
15
1
res
one
household
residential
lots
and
two
outlets
on
a
4.2
acre
parcel.
As
you
can
see
on
the
aerial
map,
there
is
no
sanitary
sewer
service.
Currently,
that
is
being
proposed
to
be
extended
along
East
46th
Street
down
to
the
proposed
development.
AA
This
shows
a
slightly
less
zoomed
in
photo
of
the
subject
property
and
the
adjoining
lot.
AA
The
adjacent
parcel
would
require
access
to
sanitary
sewer
service
as
well
for
potential
future
development
to
occur
in
reviewing
possible
future
connections.
It
would
seem
more
favorable
to
extend
sanitary
sewer
from
the
proposed
development
rather
than
connect
to
other
sanitary
Lines
within
Hubble
Avenue
or
crossing
private
property
requiring
Public
Access
easements.
AA
AA
We
are
asking
that
the
stuff
be
connected
to
the
Southwest,
so
the
parcel
directly
south
of
the
west
side
of
the
subject
to
property,
potentially.
F
Lot
yeah
zoomed
out
Ariel
might
have
a
better
because
there's
a
landlocked
parcel
in
the
Middle,
where,
if
you
see
where
the
n2b
label
is
there's
a
parcel
there,
that
it's
currently
owned
in
common
with
one
of
the
houses
on
East
46th
Street.
But
oh
yes,
this
one
here
chances
are.
If
it
ever
develops
with
an
urban
pattern.
O
O
B
You
you
also
brought
up
the
emergency
vehicle
issue,
but
if
you
s,
if
it
was
not
a
cul-de-sac-
and
it
was
a
stubbed
Street-
would
that
make
it
harder
for
emergency
vehicles
like
a
fire
truck
to
turn
around,
they
would
have
to.
AA
O
Okay,
has
there
been
any
investigation
of
that
MX3
lot
to
the
north?
Is
that
something
that
a
through
Street
can
go
across?
Or
is
there
a
reason
you
wouldn't
want
to
go
to
Hubble
Is
there
just
ownership
reasons
that
prevents
that
I
mean
as
opposed
to
a
stubbed
down
I
mean?
Is
there
a
reason,
that's
not
on
the
table.
AA
That
property
owner
we'd
have
to
ask
that
property
owner
that
hasn't.
There's
currently
development
on
that
on
that
property.
J
Madam,
chair
I
have
a
question
of
just
curiosity.
Okay,
so
don't
hold
me
to
anything.
The
name
of
the
street
proposed
is
East.
Tawana
Drive
I
recognize
Tawana,
Drive
I.
Think
from
the
Beaver
Hill
Neighborhood.
Is
this
on
the
same
latitude
whoops
or
what's
this
the
story
with
someone?
You
know
this
name
appearing
in
a
different
part
of
the
Town
Yeah.
B
AD
Madam,
chair
and
commission
Lance
Henning,
with
greater
Des
Moines
Habitat
for
Humanity
2200,
East,
Euclid,
Des
Moines,
and
that
the
project
is
for
the
15
single
family
that
it
would
be
11
to
1200
square
feet,
and
that
would
follow
habitat's
general
program
on
there,
where
the
families
would
be
going
through
the
education
and
financed
as
part
of
that,
the
houses
that
we
are
doing
in
their
well.
We
would
propose
that
they
would
be
on
slab
and
that
we
would
trade
that
off
for
no
basement
for
a
garage
as
part
of
that.
AD
So
that
would
be
a
new
proposal
for
us
to
be
able
to
do
something
like
that.
The
houses
all
15
of
those
then
would
be
home
ownership
and
a
key
part
of
being
able
to
do
that.
The
single
family
aspect
is
what
is
the
overall
consistent
with
the
existing
zoning
and
all
the
housing
around.
There
is
mostly
single
family
on
that
so
from
the
request
habitats
requesting
that
the
preliminary
be
approved
as
we
proposed
with
the
cul-de-sac
and
without
the
condition
of
the
street
stub.
AD
So
there
is
overall
some
some
Financial
challenges
on
being
able
to
make
sure
everything
works,
so
we
need
all
15
Lots,
with
the
cost
to
bring
in
the
sewer
and
the
water
down
being
able
to
do
that.
When
you
add
the
street
stub
on
there,
it
is
reducing
the
Lots.
Probably
would
reduce
two
or
otherwise
we'd
be
changing
the
lot
size,
if
we're
only
reducing
it,
one
being
able
to
make
that
happen
and
that
land
next
door
to
the
South
is
extremely
expensive
to
try
to
develop.
There's
a
number
of
reasons
for
that.
AD
If
you
don't
have
a
street
stub,
you
can
still
do
that
access
off
of
East
44th
here.
So
someone
could
access
off
of
East
44th
into
this,
this
property
here
being
able
to
do
that,
and
if
there
is
a,
if
you
had
to
put
the
street
stub
in
to
meet
fire
code
coming
through
here,
you
would
have
to
connect
here.
This
would
be
too
far
on
a
the
distance
for
the
fire
to
come
through
both
of
these
and
have
any
kind
of
turnaround
here.
AD
AD
Same
kind
of
thing
happens
on
challenges
with
the
water
line
and
so
being
able
to
service
in
when
you
connect
over
to
East
44th,
then
the
water
management
or
the
water
then
would
have
to
be
extended
down
to
Aurora
to
be
able
to
accommodate
on
there.
So
you've
got
some
significant
costs
on
having
to
extend
that
all
the
way
down.
As
part
of
that
aspect,
and
then
Water
Management
becomes
a
challenge,
and
so
we
are
going
that
direction.
The
way
the
water,
the
Ravine
here,
wouldn't
allow
you
to
access
out
of
here
them.
AD
AD
So
that
this
is
that
South
lot
and
being
able
to
do
that,
so
the
water,
this
would
have
you'd,
have
challenges
on
having
enough
room
on
the
detention
there
and
then
the
whole
pavement
that
you
do
on
the
South
Side.
Here,
there's
no
place
for
that
water
to
go
so
East
44th
has
no
storm
water
management,
so
you
would
be
you
put
that
street
in
then.
You've
got
challenges
on
where
all
that
water
for
that
street
goes
as
part
of
that
aspect
on
there.
AD
So
just
on
the
engineering
and
the
cost
to
be
able
to
do
that.
South
piece
that
doing
a
single
family
on
that
South
piece
you're
going
to
be
somewhere
at
170
to
180
000
a
lot
to
be
able
to
develop
that.
So
it's
it's
not
really
feasible.
To
even
do
that.
Second,
that
that
piece,
so
putting
that
stub
in
affects
us
being
able
to
do
the
ability
for
our
development
on
the
15.
AD
Someone
on
that
South
lot
does
have
access
from
East
44th
and
could
do
that
and
then
habitat
would
be
willing
on
the
sewer
side
to
leave
a
a
right-of-way
between
the
houses.
So
someone
could
access
that
sewer
in
a
future
development.
They
wanted
to
do
that,
but
not
put
in
it
in
the
stub.
So
we
could
put
the
right
away
in
place
if
that
South
Side
ever
got
developed,
then
they
could
access
the
sewer
to
be
able
to
go
through
there.
AD
So
I
think
our
main
piece
then
on
there
is
asking
for
us
to
ask.
In
again
the
cul-de-sac
doesn't
preclude
the
South
lot
from
being
developed.
Habitat
would
be
glad
to
put
in
the
utility
right
away
to
allow
the
sewer
to
be
accessed
and
that
the
street
stub
put
some
undue
financial
burden
on
the
project.
That
already
is
bringing
in
that
sewer
and
has
some
tight
costs
to
be
able
to
make
it
all
work
so
reducing
the
number
of
lots.
Then
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
move
forward
with
what
it
is
on
there.
AD
That's
we're
looking
at
single
family
around
there,
so
we
had
not
looked
at
any
kind
of
larger
density
on
being
able
to
do
that.
Q
AD
AD
I
think
I
think
adus
have
an
excellent
place
for
the
community
on
there.
As
far
as
The
Upfront
development
costs
it.
It
actually
raises
the
cost
to
be
able
to
do
that.
AD
Yeah
I
think
we
were
trying
to
go
within
the
existing
zoning
and
being
able
to
match
what
was
in
the
neighborhood
as
part
of
that
as
part
of
that
proposal.
So
the
50-foot
and
in
the
context
of
the
neighborhood
single
family,.
B
O
O
The
topography
such
that
the
outlot
has
to
be
to
the
Northwest.
If
the
outlet
was
to
the
Southwest,
you
flipped
five,
six,
seven
in
the
out
lot,
so
you
sort
of
leave
open
the
opportunity
for
developing
to
the
South
and
still
get
your
same
number
of
lots.
Is
there
something
about
the
land
there
that
makes
that
impossible?
So
then,
you
don't
put
the
stub
in
now,
but
you
would
still
have
access
there
if
things
change.
AE
Good
evening
my
name
is
Tim
West
with
Snyder
and
Associates
2727
Southwest
Snyder,
Boulevard
Ankeny.
The
the
low
end
of
the
lot
is
located
in
the
northwest
corner,
we're
required
to
follow
the
eye
swim
guidelines
for
this
Iowa
storm
water
management
manual
and
pickup
in
the
offside
runoff.
That's
coming
that
direction.
You
can
see
on
the
South
Side
those
those
lines
that
are
located
along
the
south
end
of
our
Lots
four
five
and
six.
AE
You
can
see
that
that's
significantly
uphill
from
there
and
as
we're
we're
draining
all
the
way
to
the
North
End.
We
have
to
release
to
the
north
as
well
at
the
low
point
of
the
lot
so
to
move
that
property
or
to
move
that
outlet
property
towards
the
South
would
be
starting
to
move
it
up
the
hill
and
away
from
our
outlet
that
would
be
established
down
in
the
low
end.
AE
AE
O
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
understanding
that
the
current
stays
the
dashed
the
dark
lines
are
the
actual
yes
planned,
and
so
the
South
lot
proposal
you
had
before
we
put
a
retaining
Pawn
on
the
northwest
corner
of
the
South
lot
before
that
doesn't
sound
like
that's
feasible,
either!
Does
it?
Could
you
really
even
do
that.
AE
O
AD
Plan,
you
would
still
have
the
same
challenge
with
the
South
plot,
whether
you
have
it
stubbed
or
a
cul-de-sac
that
that
challenge
exists
either
way.
This
doesn't
that
the
call
the
stove
the
stub
Street,
does
not
solve
the
challenges
of
the
South
lot.
The
challenges
of
the
South
lot
are
big
and
they're
there,
and
what
we
do
here
does
not
impact
that.
B
AF
Our
main
objection
to
him
was
that
he
couldn't
truly
assess
the
impact
on
our
property
for
the
water
runoff
that
that
detention
Basin
would
create
and
I'm
surprised
that
one
property
owner
is
allowed
to
diffuse
their
runoff
onto
another
property
owner
instead
of
to
a
public
sewer
or
storm
water
treatment
area,
and
so
our
concern
is,
we
haven't
developed
that
lot.
Yet
we
don't
know
how
the
lot
will
be
developed.
AF
So,
with
those
things
in
mind,
we
would
be
opposed
to
any
kind
of
diffusion
of
water,
storm
water,
surface
water,
to
our
lawn,
our
neighbor
to
that's
adjacent
to
us
to
the
West
he's
a
new
owner
he's
not
familiar
with
the
runoff
that
is
created
by
Major
storms
and
so
I
tried
to
get
in
touch
with
him
today
and
he
was
unavailable,
but
that
whole
drainage
area
only
has
a
tile
intake
and
I
have
no
idea
where
that
tile
goes.
This
whole
land
was
previously
owned
by
the
state
of
Iowa.
AF
AF
From
time
to
time
we
get
a
major
wet
spring
like
we
have
right
now,
and
we
get
some
water
problems
down
in
there,
but
so
far
they
haven't
experienced
the
problems
to
their
buildings
for
that
water,
runoff,
and
so
besides,
the
water,
runoff
issues
I,
would
be
concerned
about
privacy.
AF
Trespassing
you
put
a
housing
development
in
there.
You
get
kids
in
there
and
you're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
people
running
around
and
or
like
you
can
see
on.
The
map
are
heavily
wooded
and
makes
a
nice
exploration
area
for
kids,
so
I
would
be
concerned
about
what
kind
of
privacy
boundaries
would
be
put
up,
but
the
primary
concern
is
the
water
runoff
and
what
the
impact
would
be
to
our
property
and
properties
to
the
West.
AG
You
know
I
kind
of
backed
my
neighbor
on
that
one
I
have
an
undeveloped
corner
of
the
property
there
that
it
looks
like
a
lot
of
this
is
going
to
drain
off
on
and
I'm
also
concerned
about
how
they're
going
to
access
is
the
utility
access
going
to
go
through
my
property
I'm
kind
of
Uncertain
on
that
I've
had
some
problems
with
the
development
on
the
north
of
me
and
I'm,
not
real
supportive
of
anything
going
on
in
the
South.
You
know
so.
V
F
F
T
My
name
is
Marvin
Cole
and
I'm
at
4350,
East,
46th,
Street,
I'm,
right
on
the
north
side
of
the
front
edge
of
the
property
there,
I
guess,
I
was
concerned
about
the
size
of
the
house.
I
was
told
by
the
last
developer
that
the
city
envisioned
that
these
were
supposed
to
be
bigger
houses
for
square
footage,
size
and
I
was
under
the
impression
that
he
wanted
to
build
a
1200
square
foot
house
with
a
basement
and
was
told
that
that
wasn't
going
to
be
consistent
with
the
way
they
thought.
T
F
Yeah
I
can
speak
to
that.
It's
kind
of
a
long
answer,
though
the
previous
owner
Savannah
homes
they
weren't,
they
never
submitted
a
plat.
They
were
just
in
the
rezoning
phase.
This
was
it
was
zoned
A1
at
the
time.
This
was
back
in
early
2019
before
the
city
adopted
the
form-based
code
in
2019
at
the
end
of
2019,
so
the
property
was
zoned
A1,
the
Savannah
homes
had
requested
it
be
rezoned
to
an
r160
district.
F
One
of
the
conditions
that
staff
had
recommended
at
that
time
was
that
a
stub
be
provided
to
the
property
to
the
South
and,
like
Lance
mentioned,
that
was
staff's
recommendation.
But
the
commission
struck
that
from
the
recommendation
at
that
time.
But
since
this
was
before
form-based
code
staff
had
recommended
minimum
house
sizes
and
that
might
have
been
what
ultimately
LED
Ted
or
Savannah
homes
to
withdraw
the
rezone
application,
but
that
rezoning
was
withdrawn
before
it
was
ever
finalized.
So
fast
forward
to
December
of
2019,
the
new
form-based
code
took
effect.
F
F
I
F
Requires
a
1400
square
foot
house:
if
it's,
yes,
the
current
zoning,
if
it's
a
one-story
house
without
a
full
basement,
it's
a
minimum
1400
square
feet.
If
it's
one
and
a
half
story
without
a
full
basement,
it's
a
minimum
1500
square
feet
and
then,
if
it's
two-story
without
a
full
basement,
it's
a
minimum
1600
square
feet.
AH
Hello,
everyone
I'm
Jose
Alvarez
me
and
my
wife
Wendy
are
here
today
we
live
at
4300,
East,
46th
Street,
the
the
house,
that's
right,
adjacent
to
the
the
property
we
just
wanted
to
kind
of
we
had
this.
We
spoke
with
Martin,
we
had
kind
of
had
the
same
concerns.
We
just
purchased
our
property
recently
and
we're
we're
worried
about
the
size
of
homes
coming
in
and
possibly
lowering
our
property
values
and
and
stuff
like
that,
and
also
there's
also
a
lot
of
mature
trees.
AH
Trees
around
our
property,
probably
like
the
70
70
feet
behind
our
house,
is
all
wooded
area,
and
we
just
we're
just
wondering
about
the
buffer
and
how?
If
there's
going
to
be
anything
to
mitigate
tree
removal
in
that
area
and
that's
all
I
had.
T
F
If
they
don't
meet
the
minimums,
they
would
have
to
seek
design
alternative
and
I
I
guess
I
can't
speak
for
the
planning
administrator,
but
if
the
planning
administrator
doesn't
grant
them
administratively,
then
they
would
come
back
to
the
plan
and
Zoning
commission
to
this
body
for
public
hearing
and
then
you
would
get
notice
of
them
at
that
time.
Okay,.
F
AI
AI
Stormwater
concerns
I
think
are,
are
hopefully
adequately
answered
that
that,
while
we
can't
solve
all
the
storm
water
issues
in
the
area,
I
think
of
what
we
do
have
proposed
goes
a
long
ways
towards
mitigating
any
potential
adverse
effects
at
this
site
would
have
on
the
neighbors
or
the
area
itself.
AI
We
do
work
with
staff,
while
we
haven't
identified
exactly
what
house
exact
square
footage.
Is
we
typically
on
all
our
homes
work
with
staff
to
come
up
with
a
plan
that
that
they
deem
is
suitable
both
on
size
and
garage
basement?
All
of
these
things?
So
it's
it's
typical
to
our
our
our
similar
process,
we'll
make
sure
what
we're
doing
does
fit
in
the
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
doesn't
doesn't
adversely
affect
Neighbors.
AI
I
would
mention
briefly
on
some
of
the
costs
involved
on
the
sewer
to
the
north
and
that
stuff,
so
that
represents
bringing
the
public
utility
South
on
that
on
we're
talking
yeah
there.
Oh
there
you
go
so
that
bringing
that
South
required
Zone
tearing
up
that
street
and
re
and
putting
water
or
excuse
me
just
to
remain
in
it,
and
that
represents
about
22
to
25
of
the
project
itself
right
there
from
concrete
work.
AI
That's
a
third
of
concrete
work
on
this
product
or
this
project,
so
just
bringing
those
two
represents
kind
of
a
a
huge
expense
which
is
kind
of
driving
the
need
to
maximize
the
number
of
lots
we
can
yield
just
to
make
the
financials
kind
of
come
together
on
this
yeah.
So
I
don't
know
if
there
are
any
other
questions.
Can.
B
You
speak
to
the
tree
issue
and
what
I
didn't
I,
don't
remember,
seeing
a.
AI
AI
I
believe,
there's
a
map
that
shows
the
existing
tree
canopy.
Maybe
it's
the
first
one
of
this
preliminary
plant.
AI
Up
there
I
think
it's
showing
showing
canopy
around
yeah.
We
we
are
we'll
remove
I,
don't
think,
there's
a
there's,
an
exact
removal.
I
know
the
city
has
guidelines
on
exactly
what
we
can
remove,
what
we
need
to
replace
so
we're
fully
complying
with
that
and
I
know.
There
is
even
around
the
property
owners
to
decide
even
to
our
property
line,
there's
significant
trees
that
would
continue
to
buffer
to
the
neighbors
around
it.
AI
But
it's
not
kind
of
explicitly
called
out
on
this,
but
I
I,
I,
I
I,
wouldn't
want
to
give
the
impression
this.
This
feels
like
it's
going
to
just
you
know,
remove
all
the
trees
in
that
entire
area.
I,
don't
think
that
the
character
of
those
The
Neighbors
in
the
backyard
is
going
to
change
a
lot,
because
it'll
still
be
pretty
significant
tree
cover.
There.
Z
I
have
a
question
for
the
civil
engineer,
conceptually
speaking
when
of
new
development
like
this
is
proposed,
are
you
required
to
detain
all
of
the
storm
water
from
the
site
so
that
the
net
impact
on
the
surrounding
properties
is
nothing.
AE
It's
required
to
bring
the
site
back
to
pre-developed
release
rates,
so
I
think
that's
the
engineering
way
of
saying
that
we
would
be
releasing
the
amount
of
water
at
a
rate
that's
equivalent
to
what
the
pre-developed
status
of
that
is
and
without
going
too
technical.
We
we
are
required
by
Iowa
stormwater
codes
to
collect
all
that
water
and
also
meet
different
types
of
water
quality
and
small
storm
event,
controls
so
that
it
can
be
conveyed
into
the
existing
drainage
area
in
a
way
that's
controlled
after
it's
detained
for
a
certain
amount
of
time.
AE
AE
Both
the
Basin
that's
located
kind
of
in
the
middle
on
the
back
side
of
8
9,
10,
11
12,
as
well
as
the
the
main
base
and
located
on
the
northwest
side
that
meets
both
the
small
storm
or
the
channel
protection
requirements.
I
swim,
as
well
as
the
infiltration
guidelines,
in
addition
to
the
100
Year
detention.
So
it
gets
pretty
complicated
and
that's
where
we
work
with
the
city
engineering
staff
to
make
sure
that
we're
meeting
those
storm
water
ordinances
that
are
not
only
set
by
a
city
of
Des
Moines.
AE
AF
B
AF
B
Yeah
I
can't
speak
to
the
greeting
okay
yeah,
it's
been
approved
by
the
city
engineering
staff,
I
I
mean
there
is
going
to
be
some
grading
work
that
will
be
done
on
that
yeah.
That's
generally
happens
during
development.
B
Commission
have
any
other
questions
for
staff
before
I
close
the
public
hearing.
Oh
all,
right.
I,
closed
public
hearing
on
this
item,
discussion
or
emotions.
E
F
E
F
O
I
guess
I,
don't
see
the
point
of
the
stub
I
mean
it
seems
like
the
property
of
the
South
is
going
to
be
problematic
anyway,
it
seems
like
we
end
up
with
more
problems
and
than
not
so
I.
Guess
personally,
I
don't
see
the
point
in
the
stub,
which
is
the
only
changed
the
staff
recommendation,
that
is
in
question
right.
B
I
think
that's
everybody
right!
Okay!
Thank
you.
Okay.
Moving
on
to
item
number
10.,
a
request
from
Ryan
Resorts
LLC
for
review
and
approval
of
a
public
hearing
site
plan,
Broadway
beach
house
for
prod
property
located
at
5100
Hubble
Avenue
for
the
following
type
2
design.
Alternatives
allow
a
surface
parking
lot
in
a
front
yard
when
surface
parking
areas
are
only
allowed
in
rear
or
limited
side
yards
allow
an
accessory
structure
in
a
front
yard
when
accessory
structures
are
only
permitted,
Insider
rear
yards
and
allow
a
trash
enclosure
in
a
street
side
yard.
K
Cool
thanks,
Madam
chair
members
of
the
commission,
Nick
tarpey
planning
staff-
something
I
do
just
want
to
start
off
again
with
with
this
item,
specifically
we're
just
reviewing
design
alternatives
for
the
site
design.
Some
of
the
layout
things
like
that
accessory
structures,
we're
not
talking
about
the
use
at
all,
so
I'll
touch
on
that
a
little
bit.
The
use
was
approved
at
the
zoning
Board
of
adjustment
back
in
January.
So
that
is
not
something
that
we
are
litigating
here
tonight.
K
So
here's
the
aerial
to
say
area
highlighted
in
Orange
is,
is
the
site.
You
can
see
it's
an
existing
building
as
part
of
this
project,
the
applicant
they're
not
proposing
to
do
any
building
additions,
they're
literally
keeping
the
existing
building,
doing
some
site
modifications
and
adding
an
accessory
structure.
K
The
site's
about
a
quarter
mile
to
the
southeast
or
Southwest
excuse
me
of
the
U.S
65
Hubble,
lab
interchange
and
really
we're
just
situated
just
Northwest
of
that
that
Hubble
and
Broadway
corner
so
two
a
couple
of
major
thoroughfares
here
in
the
city
and
if
you've
been
up
in
this
area
recently,
there's
a
infrastructure
project
going
on
right
now
on
East
Broadway.
K
So
we'll
come
back
to
that
a
little
bit
tonight,
but
just
some
context,
for
you
just
try
to
remember
that
and
really
generally,
if
people
are
familiar
with
this
area,
it's
a
relatively
high
traffic
area,
zoning
wise
it
has
a
lot
of
mixed
use.
Zoning
designations,
particularly
on
the
corridor,
a
lot
of
mixed-use
commercial
uses,
kind
of
Legacy
Industrial
uses
and
as
you
step
off
the
corridor,
there's
some
undeveloped,
partials
and
some
larger
one
household
residential
lots.
K
So
here's
a
photo
of
the
site
this
was
taken
yesterday,
so
this
is
from
the
West
looking
to
the
east
on
that
frontage
road.
So
this
this
here
is
the
intersection.
So
this
is
Hub
on
Broadway
right
here.
This
is
the
existing
building.
Really
is
part
of
the
improvements
here.
They're
doing
some
window
swap
outs,
throwing
some
paint
on
it.
Things
like
that
and
then
doing
some
sight
improvements,
there's
really
not
a
ton
of
alterations,
the
existing
building,
all
that
the
applicants
speak
to
that
if
they'd
like
and
then
here's
just
an
opposite
view.
K
K
So
here's
the
schematic
of
the
site
we'll
come
back
to
some
of
the
particulars
but
I
think
in
a
this
shows,
what's
proposed
in
a
pretty
good,
3D
rendering
so
there's
a
pool
area.
That's
proposed
out
front
here:
the
existing
hotel
or
motel
use.
Basically,
they
would
remodel
the
inside
and
they'd
basically
turn
into
these
like
they
use.
Cabanas
is
basically
what
they
would
be
and
then
there
would
be
seating
areas.
Patio
areas
as
well
as
a
Hospitality
space
here
right
in
the
middle
they're,
also
proposing
an
accessory
structure.
K
So
this
item
right
here
will
dive
a
little
bit
more
deeper
into
that,
but
it's
it's
really
proposed
in
the
southwest
corner
of
the
fenced-in
pool
area.
Really,
the
purpose
of
the
accessory
structure
is
to
basically
ask
act
as
a
storage
area
store,
some
of
the
mechanical
equipment
for
the
pool,
the
chemicals,
the
gauges,
the
things
like
that
that
are
really
technically
important
to
the
sanctity
and
the
operation
of
the
pool.
This
area.
Right
here,
that's
highlighted
with
my
cursor-
is
the
new
parking
area
that
would
be
proposed
to
the
southwest
of
the
existing
building.
K
The
the
current
parking
area
right
now
is
really
right
in
front
of
the
building.
That
would
be
scraped
and
that's
where
the
pool
would
go
so
here's
the
existing
conditions
at
the
site,
showing
some
demolition
you
can
see,
as
you
saw
in
the
aerial.
This
is
how
the
site
looks
now
and
all
this
payment
pretty
much
would
be
scraped.
K
Here's
where
the
trash
enclosure
would
go
so
I
know
that
was
one
of
the
items
on
the
design
alternative,
Relief
really
situated
here
at
the
southeast
corner
of
the
building.
With
the
accessory
structure
for
the
pool
house
right
here
some
floor
plans,
we
can
come
back
to
those
not
necessarily
pertinent
to
the
design
alternative
requests.
Some
elevations
here
is
the
the
pool
house,
so
I'll
zoom
in
a
little
bit.
This
was
in
your
packet,
so
you
might
have
taken
a
look
at
it
already,
but
here's
a
zoomed
in
look
at
the
at
what's
proposed
here.
K
K
I'll
tackle
those
design,
alternative
requests,
one
by
one.
So
with
the
surface
parking
really
the
building
as
it
exists,
that
already
has
surface
parking
in
the
front
yard,
so
the
idea
of
them
demoing
and
basically
re-adding
that
surface
parking
in
the
front.
It
doesn't
really
change
the
functionality
of
how
the
building
operates
today
and
then
also
too.
K
Something
else
I
wanted
to
mention
about
the
parking
is
that
generally
from
what
they've
shown
conceptually
is
that
they
are
Landscaping
it
appropriately
they're,
providing
the
required
buffers
from
the
right
of
way.
They've
got
the
interior
Landscaping
that
they
would
be
required
to
depict
there's
only
about
30
feet
in
that
rear
yard,
and
so
that's
really
not
enough
space
for
them
to
construct
a
parking
lot
for
for
their
vehicular
parking
needs
that
they
anticipate
at
the
site,
so
at
staff.
We
support
that
request
for
a
variety
of
reasons
digging
in
the
next
design
alternative
request.
K
Thinking
about
that
accessory
building
so
really
like
I
said
before
that
building
it's
it's
got
kind
of
a
seasonal
or
a
temporal
nature.
It's
something
that
you
buy
prefabricated.
You
can
place
onto
a
site.
It's
not
something!
That's
really
constructed.
You
know
on-site
they're,
basically,
shipping
it
there
and
basically
providing
footings
and
Foundations
at
the
site
for
it
to
be
placed
there
and
to
for
it
to
be
a
little
bit
more
permanent
and
really
the
only
reason
that
they're
doing
that
is
that
it's
actually
a
building
code
requirement.
K
So
upon
review
of
the
initial
building
plans,
our
building
department
said:
hey,
can't
just
plop
this
building
down
here,
necessarily
it
does
have
to
come
with
splittings
and
Foundations
because
of
the
way
it'll
be
used
and
occupied,
so
the
building
department
is
really
requiring
that
more
permanent
nature.
That's
not
really
something
that's
proposed
by
the
applicant
and
really
with
that
more
portable
or
that
more
seasonal
nature
of
the
structure
based
on
the
information
that
we
were
provided.
K
There
are
concerns
about
long-term
durability
with
that,
particularly
with
such
a
forward-facing,
front-facing
location
of
the
structure,
it's
right
in
the
front
yard,
and
not
even
just
in
front
of
the
building,
but
it
is
kind
of
extended
towards
that
property
line.
So
it's
a
very
high,
visible
location.
We
were
talking
about
the
context
a
little
bit
earlier
and
so
staff.
We
try
to
consider
all
of
those
things
and
we
were
thinking
about
a
recommendation
for
that
specific
request.
K
And
then
also
the
last
design
alternative
for
the
trash
enclosure.
Thinking
about
that
in
a
pretty
similar
fashion,
we
understand
that
the
site
is
linear.
It's
it's
got
a
difficult
geometry
there.
They
are
a
little
bit
limited
with
the
existing
building.
That's
there,
and
so
maybe
placing
the
trash
enclosure
directly
behind
the
building,
isn't
necessarily
the
most
feasible
thing.
It's
you
know
they
may
not
be
able
to
construct
a
paved
access
to
it
or
may
not.
K
That
may
not
really
be
financially
practical,
but
we
do
feel
that
there
are
other
more
appropriate
locations
on
the
site
than
sticking
it
at
the
corner,
even
with
the
landscape
buffer
that
they
have
proposed
as
staff,
we
would
be
comfortable
with
them,
citing
it
on
the
interior
side
to
the
west
of
the
property.
K
Where
that
parking
lot
is
so
it
still
technically
wouldn't
necessarily
meet
code,
because
it's
per
code
it
is
required
to
go
in
the
rear
yard,
but
it
would
be
a
less
visible,
less
public
location
for
that
enclosure
and
we
feel
like
that,
would
just
be
more
appropriate.
Instead
of
sticking
it
at
a
pretty
high
visibility,
high
visibility
corner
with
a
lot
of
traffic
rolling
through
there,
especially
with
a
use
like
this
during
the
summer
months,
we
get
a
lot
of
users
users.
K
Here,
that's
going
to
be
a
heavily
used
trash
enclosure,
and
so
staff
would
want
to
try
to
guard
against
that.
So
we're
digging
into
the
recommendation
as
staff.
We
do
recommend
approval
of
the
the
site
plan
subject
to
a
and
we
do
recommend
approval
of
the
request
for
that
parking
area
situated
in
that
front
yard.
We
do
feel
that
it's
appropriate,
but,
however,
we
are
requesting
or
are
recommending
denial
of
the
design
alternative
request
for
that
accessory
structure.
K
That
pool
house
that
out
building
that
we
were
talking
about
that
would
be
proposed
to
go
in
the
front
yard
and
then
also
a
denial
or
recommending
denial
of
the
trash
enclosure
to
be
going
on
that
Southeast
Corner
as
staff.
We
would
recommend
relief
for
that,
but
really
we'd
recommend
relief
in
a
different
sense
where
they
could
cite
it.
Maybe
in
that
Northern
portion
of
that
parking
lot
or
north
of
the
parking
area,
we
did
want
to
frame
that
recommendation
relatively
loose.
K
We
did
get
a
lot
of
comments
for
this,
so
we
did
get
a
lot
of
emails.
I
will
run
through
those
I'll
zoom
in
you
guys
can
marinate
on
them
once
you're
done
reading
them.
Just
let
me
know
and
I'll
move
on.
J
F
K
K
K
I
think
what
if
I
can
paraphrase
and
if
somebody
has
a
different
interpretation
interrupt
me
but
I
think
they're
already
experiencing
some
issues
and
I
think
they're
worried
that
future
development
would
exacerbate
that
with
more
Paving.
That's
my
read
on
it
right.
K
K
We'll
just
keep
flowing
through
the
letters
here
so
we
did
get
a
couple
of
this
is
a
representative
from
the
the
training
location
that
exists
just
to
the
northeast
of
this
property,
so
IU
I-u-o-o-e
local
234
has
their
headquarters
and
Training
Facility
just
to
the
northwest
of
here.
So
there's
a
couple
letters
that
are
from
representatives
of
that
organization,
so
just
having
some
questions
about
what
was
proposed,
and
then
this
one's
a
little
bit
more
detailed.
J
I
have
a
question,
please:
how
is
the
drainage
issue
calculated
with
the
swimming
pool
now
and
the
surrounding
concrete
being
in
place?
That's
one
question
and
then
the
other
question
is
how
much
additional
square
footage
will
the
new
parking
lot
add
to
the
already
existing
non-permeable
surface
so.
K
My
understanding
is
that
the
swimming
pool
is
considered
an
impervious
surface,
so
I
know
it'll
be
filled
with
water,
but
it's
got
a
concrete
base.
It's
a
disturbed
area
and
so
that,
for
the
purposes
of
the
storm
water
management
analysis
and
again,
that's
not
something
that
I'm
digging
super
deep
into.
But
my
understanding
is
that
is
an
impervious
area
and
then
my
also
also
my
understanding
with
the
site.
K
Is
that,
based
on
the
amount
of
disturbed
area
that
they
were
proposing,
so
they
are
proposing
to
disturb
more
than
ten
thousand
square
feet
of
the
site,
but
less
than
50
percent
of
the
total
Site
Area?
And
so
because
of
that,
we
kind
of
heard
in
the
last
presentation
a
little
bit
about
some
of
those
Iowa
Code
stormwater
management
triggers
they
do
have
to
meet
the
water
quality
volume,
as
well
as
the
channel
protection
volumes
that
are
required
for
the
Iowa
stormwater
ordinance.
K
K
So
under
Iowa
stormwater
code,
there
are
certain
requirements
for
certain
types
of
stormwater
detention
that
applicants
have
to
demonstrate
when
they
do
site
development.
This
specific
site.
They
are
disturbing
more
than
ten
thousand
square
feet
of
total
land
area,
but
it's
less
than
50
percent
of
the
site
or
the
parcel.
So
because
of
that,
the
two
things
they
really
have
to
keep
in
mind
when
they
develop
a
storm
water
management
plan
or
they
have
to
meet
the
water
quality
volume
standards,
as
well
as
the
channel
protects
and
channel
protection
discharge
standards.
K
So
that's
kind
of
what
the
last
guy
was
talking
about
in
terms
of
a
slow
release
rates
and
so
making
sure
when
we
detain
water
it's
released
at
a
rate
that
is
slow
enough,
where
it
doesn't
overwhelm
existing
drainage
patterns
and
surrounding
properties,
basically
to
try
to
keep
the
site
as
it
is
and
kind
of
mitigate.
You
know
any
any
new
Paving,
that's
provided,
so
it's
not
exacerbated
with
any
new
site
development.
Does
that
help
a
little
bit.
K
K
So
this
this
area-
that's
highly
about
my
cursor
here
and
it's
kind
of
cold
out
on
the
site.
This
would
be
the
detention
area
on
the
site
and
you
can
see
here
they
are
proposing
some
basically
stormwater
infrastructure
within
the
site
to
capture
water
and
then
kind
of
generally
detain
it
here
and
then
slowly
filter
it
out
and.
K
Z
I've
got
a
question
on
Item
B.
K
K
This
I
think
as
staff
we
thought
about
it.
We
didn't
want
to
get
too
prescriptive
in
our
recommendation.
I
think
we
would
want
it
to
be
situated
closer
to
the
building
so
I.
We
don't
want
to
I.
If
Bert
wants
to
interrupt
me,
that's
fine
I,
don't
think
we
want
to
be
hard
and
fast
with
that
we
would
propose.
You
know,
maybe
a
building,
Edition
or
something
more
substantive
kind
of
to
the
north.
K
If
we
go
back
to
the
I'll,
go
back
to
the
site
plan
here
and
just
kind
of
show,
you
and
the
applicant
can
also
kind
of
walk
through
I
guess
how
the
site
will
operate,
but
generally.
K
So
right
here
is
kind
of
like
the
main
entry
point
area.
Here's
where
the
accessory
structure
would
be
at
staff,
something
we
we
thought
about
and
have
discussed
internally.
Is
that
maybe
if
you
know
something
was
shifted
over
here,
you
could
combine
it
with
this
like
check-in
area,
and
that
would
you
could
have
a
lot
of
functions
here
with
an
accessory
building
in
the
northern
area
of
the
site.
That
would
have
a
little
bit
less
visibility
from
the
public
way.
So
I
guess
that's
a
really
long
answer
long
way
of
answering
your
question.
K
K
Be
it
like
a
building
code
element
yeah?
Okay,
that
would
be
something
that'd
be
reviewed
as
part
of
the
building
permit
review,
which
they
have
already
undertaken.
So
they're
doing
a
concurrent
review
with
us.
They've
submitted
a
site
plan.
That's
what
we're
looking
at
tonight.
They
also
have
building
permit
drawings
in
that
deals
with
occupancies
and
means
of
egress
and
stuff,
like
that.
So
that's
currently
under
review,
but
that's
not
under
consideration
tonight.
B
Is
there
any
way
that
you
could
sum
it
up
just
a
little
bit
generally
I'm
a
slow
reader
you're.
K
Good,
my
understanding
is
I,
think
they're
they're
concerned
about
I
think
one
not
under
debate
tonight.
They
are
a
little
bit
concerned
about
the
use
so
I.
Don't
that
doesn't
really
make
them
feel
comfortable
as
an
adjacent
property
owner
I
think
as
well
they're
a
little
bit
worried
about
light
pollution,
and
things
like
that.
We
already
did
have
a
discussion
on
lighting
tonight.
The
applicant
has
submitted
a
photometric
plan
and
they
do
meet
the
foot,
candle
setbacks
and
things
like
that.
K
K
This
down
here
the
applicant,
is
talking
about
the
or
the
the
letter
writer
here
is
talking
about
the
placement
of
these
artificial
palm
trees
that
are
proposed
around
the
fence
area.
They
would
have
lights
but
staff
as
we
would
not
approve
anything
that
would
exceed
the
foot
candle
requirements
at
property
lines.
K
AJ
What
what
slide
you
that
was
creepy,
just
a
site
plan.
F
The
one
that
shows
the
trash
enclosure
and
that
building
better.
AJ
Well
that
that
one
could
work
that
works,
that
works
too,
so,
as
Nick
has
discussed
so
far
this
evening,
the
existing
building
is
located
towards
the
back
of
the
property,
so
that
originally
off
the
bat
took
putting
the
pool
in
the
back,
putting
it
off
to
the
side
like
we
couldn't
make
it
work
that
way,
so
we
had
to
put
it
in
the
front
yard
and
with
that
we
talked
with
our
pool
contractor
who's,
also
our
designer
for
all
the
mechanical
systems,
along
with
the
pool,
and
he
recommended
us
to
keep
the
equipment
as
close
to
the
pool
as
possible.
AJ
So
that
way,
there's
no
chances
of
anyone
breaking
a
line.
It's
all
right
there,
it's
easy
to
maintain
for
him
when
he
come
back
when
he
comes
back
and
does
the
early
maintenance
for
Ryan
and
all
of
the
different
functions
for
that
and
then
going
along
with
Ryan's
vision
for
the
property.
So,
as
we've
said,
all
of
the
existing
motel
rooms
have
been
turned
into
daytime
Cabanas
that
you
ran
out.
You
can
spend
it
with
friends.
You
have
a
private
patio
in
the
back
or
you
can
then
go
out
to
the
loungers.
AJ
The
chairs
everything
enjoy
the
pool,
play
some
volleyball
or
go
out
into
the
grass
and
play
yard
games
just
just
have
fun
and
with
the
pool
equipment
building
needed
needed
to
be
close
to
the
pool
just
for
the
efficiency
of
the
equipment.
We
moved
it
to
that
southwest
corner.
So
that
way
we
would
not
block
views
of
any
of
the
Cabanas
out
to
that
grassy
space.
So
that
way
somebody
is
not.
AJ
AJ
We
were
told
during
our
first
submittal
that
we
would
have
to
submit
for
a
separate
building
permit
for
that,
so
we've
gotten
all
of
the
drawings
for
those
pre-engineered
metal
or
wood
buildings,
and
we
plan
on
submitting
that
with
our
next
submittal
to
the
billing
department
to
get
their
approval
for
this.
For
the
building
we've
added
Frost
footings
Lake
was
discussed
so
that
way
we
can
actually
Mount
that
to
the
property
and
it
will
not
leave
like
that.
Building
will
be
a
permanent
structure
and
it
will
stay
there
in
its
entirety.
AJ
AJ
We
have
a
six
foot
metal
fence
that
is
being
used
both
to
keep
non-paying
patrons
out,
while
also
kind
of
screening
the
pool
area
as
well,
and
then
on
the
inside
of
that
fence.
All
the
way
around
is
Carl
Forster
grass.
You
know
the
really
high
flowy
grass,
so
we
have
all
of
these
elements
to
kind
of
screen
what's
happening
within
the
patio
space,
which
is
also
screening
that
building
thus
not
making
it
as
prominent
as
an
out
out
building
in
the
front
yard.
AJ
Going
along
to
the
trash
encloser
just
off
to
the
right
that
we
can't
see
it
is
made
out
of
the
approved
materials
by
the
city
that
you
would
like
to
see
for
all
enclosures
we've
got
it
kind
of
tucked
away
off
to
the
side.
So
that
way,
it's
not
in
view
of
any
of
the
patrons
at
the
facility,
it's
away
from
our
main
gate,
so
that
way,
there's
no
cross
of
Ryan's
patrons
and
the
trash
being
taken
out
of
the
building
and
we're
also
screening
it
with
Spartan
Jupiter.
AK
Hello,
Ryan
Stevenson
5100
Hubble
Avenue
in
Des
Moines,
the
as
far
as
the
trash
can
located
over
on
the
east
end
of
the
building
the
corner
right
there
for
25
plus
years,
there's
been
a
dumpster
there
right
next
to
that
window.
That's
where
the
pad
the
concrete
pad
is
that's
where
dumpster
has
been
maintained.
I
know
in
our
variance
committee
meeting
there
was
concerns
that
they
they
liked
the
Broadway
motel.
That
was
there.
They
weren't
really
in
for
a
change
of
this.
AK
So
me
personally,
I'd
be
more
into
this
being
my
neighbor
than
the
Broadway
Motel
I
ran
it
for
a
month
and
to
say
it
was
horrible
to
be
an
understatement,
but
with
all
the
new
city
codes
that
we
followed
by
the
dumpster
is
going
to
be
completely
concreted
in.
It's
going
to
have
still
metal
gates
around
it,
no
matter
where
that
dumpster
is
you're
not
going
to
see
the
garbage
you're
not
going
to
see
a
dumpster
you're
not
going
to
see.
None
of
that
and
the
dumpster
has
been
there
for
25
plus
years.
AK
My
concern
of
the
dumpster,
not
me
I
I,
really
wouldn't
have
a
problem
with
the
dumpster
moving
over
on
Westin
at
all.
The
only
problem
is
the
main
part
where
the
service
lounge
is
in
the
middle
and
the
double
the
middle
of
the
property,
the
yellow
part
in
the
back,
there's
a
back
building
that
goes
out
behind
that
with
that
back
building
in
the
kitchen
being
in
the
back
right
side.
Of
that,
all
the
flow
for
garbage
needs
to
go
to
the
west
or
the
east,
so
it
makes
more
sense.
AK
The
garbage
can
be
in
originally
where
it
was
at
for
all
the
garbage
to
flow.
That
way,
if
I
had
the
other
garbage.
On
the
other
end,
the
kitchen,
the
back
buildings
Block
in
the
kitchen,
it
would
have
to
go
all
the
way
around
that
bar
area
back
around
through
the
patio
back
up
to
the
hotel
rooms,
which
are
not
hotel
rooms,
no
more
their
Cabanas.
The
place
closes
at
night
at
night.
AK
There
is
motels
about
my
dream,
and
then
they
would
have
to
be
carried
all
the
way
down
past
the
double
decker
and
to
the
right
for
garbage.
AK
Where
the
kitchen
is
located,
where
the
grease
traps
already
engineered
to
go
in,
where
everything's
at
it
really
don't
make
sense
of
the
garbage,
can
we've
put
in
tons
of
bush
and
trees,
Shrubbery
everything
to
code
that
we've
agreed
on
that
it's
going
to
be
completely
covered
with
bushes
around
it
as
well.
So
the
garbage
is
where
I
have
an
issue
if
it
has
to
move
over
there
and
it's
a
deal
breaker
or
we're
trying
to
cut
a
deal
back
and
forth
meet
halfway.
AK
I
have
no
problem
eating
halfway,
but
would
it
be
a
pain
for
us?
It
would
be
bad
it'd,
be
a
pain
for
us,
but
we
couldn't
move
the
garbage.
Can
it's
not
the
end
of
the
world
as
far
as
the
building
in
front?
This
is
no
shed.
This
is
no
Menards
shed
that
you
know
199
metal
shed,
that's
going
to
be
a
bit
storm
or
something
like
that.
This
is
a
mobile
building.
I
mean
it.
Has
it's
consistent
with
the
property
it
has
a
deck
on
it,
look
on
it,
it
has
Windows
in
it.
AK
It
has
a
metal
roof
on
it.
It's
going
to
be
painted
the
same
color
and
blend
with
the
hotel.
90
of
the
hotel
is
a
one
level
rooms.
If
you
see
this
is
exact
height
of
one
level
of
the
hotel.
If
we
cut
a
little
piece
off
the
motel
and
moved
it
over
there
for
the
building,
it
would
look
like
that
if
we
built
something
new
on
the
land,
it
would
look
like
that.
AK
It's
built
with
wood
and
trusses,
and
it's
not
a
it's,
not
Shack,
it's
an
actual
building,
but
the
builder
of
the
pool
wanted.
We
did
one
micro
lamps,
so
it
needs
to
turn
over.
The
water
needs
a
turnovers
every
six
minutes
for
clarity
of
the
pool.
We
want
the
extra
step.
I
think
the
law
is
only
six.
We
have
to
do.
We
put
the
extra
50
grain
in
to
get
the
one
micro,
Lambs
or
the
water
turnover
Clarity
is
there,
and
that
pool
unit
needs
to
be
close
to
the
pool
to
get
that
Clarity.
AK
If
you
think,
with
300
people
in
a
pool
you
know
drink,
spilling
in
a
pool
and
I,
don't
know
if
you
had
a
private
pool
party
at
your
house,
but
the
pool
don't
look
so
hot
the
next
day
and
you
know
I
hope
they
don't.
But
people
do
here
in
the
pool
you
know
stuff
like
that
happens,
but
that
pool
water
needs
to
turn
over
seven
minutes
and
we
went
the
extra
step.
I.
Think
it's
like
Ryan
you'll,
never
kick
yourself
for
putting
an
extra
50
Grand
in
it's
above
eventually,
it's
above
everyone
else.
AK
So
those
are
my
two
issues
really
that
it's
not
a
shed.
It's
not
going
to
deteriorate.
It's
on
footings.
It's
built
just
like
it'd,
be
built
there.
It's
built
out
of
wood.
It's
it's
a
build!
It's
a
mobile
building,
it's
by
far
a
shed,
so
I,
don't
think
it's
an
eyesore
and
we're
planting
all
the
way
around
it
as
well.
You
won't
see
anything
around
it
so
very
soon,
so
I
think
it
would
be
the
same
color
of
the
building
it's
going
to
fit
in
with
the
landscape.
It's
by
far
not
an
eyesore.
AK
The
Broadway
Motel
was
an
eyesore.
Nothing
here
will
be
an
eyesore
as
far
as
the
palm
trees
along
the
line.
He
was
talking
about
they're
like
ten
thousand
dollars,
each
big
still
strong
palm
trees,
there's
four
lights
in
the
palm
trees
they're
in
the
Coconuts.
They
hang
off
the
lights,
they're
a
little
light
like
this.
It's
all
photometric
plan
it
shuts
straight
down
in
an
area
about
10
foot
and
it's
just
a
nice
design
for
for
the
property
for
the
palm
trees,
but
that
building
we
could
move.
AK
B
AK
Q
Hello,
thank
you
just
to
answer
some
of
the
questions
or,
if
you
could
entertain
some
of
the
questions,
I
think
some
of
the
writers
had
as
well
as
me.
Q
AK
It
adults
only
it's
21
and
over.
It
opens
at
10
o'clock
during
the
day
and
it
closes
at
nine
o'clock
at
night.
The
rooms
are
used
as
a
cabana
room
they're
for
Cabanas.
Like
you
rent
for
air
conditioning
places,
you
have
your
purse
and
your
stuff
and
all
your
stuff,
you
lock
up
you
can
order
in
for
birthday
parties,
charcuterie
boards,
food
to
your
room.
Just
a
nice
home
base
a
lot
of
places
like
Adventureland.
AK
AK
To
the
pricing
works,
you
can
come
it's
fifty
dollars
to
get
in
the
resort
about
25
is
back
in
credit.
We
do
that,
so
somebody
just
can't
come
in
and
hang
out
all
day
and
not
try
to
partake
or
you
know
be
a
problem.
Fifty
dollars,
25
credit
back.
You
don't
have
to
get
a
cabana
to
have
a
you.
Don't
have
to
have
a
room,
that's
if
you
want
to
upgrade
or
have
a
party
or
want
to
do
something
a
little
special.
AK
You
can
pay
that
and
come
in
and
get
a
lounge
chair
which
are
free,
but
if
you
want
to
upgrade
to
daybeds,
which
is
our
outside
around
the
pool
they're,
just
a
real
wide
cushion
lounge
or
more
comfortable
lounger,
they
upgrade
for
that,
but
yeah.
Okay,
this
command
is
basically
the
whole
place
closes
at
night.
I
know
they
had
a
concern
at
the
variance
meeting
about
Motel,
which
it
was
a
motel,
a
filthy
Motel
of
that,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
people
staying
all
night.
AK
AK
I
said
perfect:
we
don't
have
zero
overnight
rooms
and
it's
not
what
I'm
looking
for
it's
just
I'm,
looking
for
an
adult
place
for
when
you
go
to
Adventure
Land
and
play
70
bucks
at
my
age,
we're
not
riding
the
roller
coasters
and
we're
not
riding
the
kiddie
rides
and
we
don't
want
to
pay
for
the
rest
of
the
park.
But
you
don't
want
to
be
at
the
swim
up
bar
and
eventually,
with
kids,
jumping
off
it
and
on
a
kid
day
and
that's
my
experience
I
had
at
Adventureland
and
that's
why
I'm
opening
this?
Q
AK
Absolutely
I
was
like
well
when
we,
when
we
do
the
roof
and
everything
the
roof's
dominant
in
that
building
the
roof's
big
and
dominant
the
roof's
going
to
be
hay
and
like
sand
and
stuff
on
it
to
represent
like
a
beach
on
the
top,
and
then
the
colors
in
the
water
are
going
down
below
that's
going
to
be
done
exactly
to
the
shed
it'll,
be
the
same
colors
as
the
hotel
and
it's
the
same
height.
But
it
will
look
like
you
cut
a
piece
of
that
hotel
off
and
just
set
it
there.
It
will.
AK
AK
All
my
traps,
enclosure
will
have
double
gate
still
gates
to
open
up
and
they
open
up
double
wide,
so
the
trash
can
come
out
from
the
trash
can,
but
the
door,
the
man
door.
There's
an
opening
on
the
side
and
that's
to
put
a
single
trash
can
through
there.
AK
But
it's
come
you
won't.
You
won't
see
no
garbage.
There
I
mean
it's
the
person
running
either
rent
a
garbage
place
or
you're.
Not
if
you
I
didn't
spend
you
know
everything
I
own
in
my
life
to
have
a
place
looking
like
that,
nor,
as
any
of
my
places,
look
like
that
in
the
past,
the
Broadway
Hotel
on
the
other
area
was
a
whole
nother.
No,
so
you
can
only
go
up
from
Broadway
Motel.
AK
AK
The
rooms
are
200
and
but
if
you
have,
you
can
put
up
to
eight
people
in
them.
So
if
eight
people
pay
50
at
the
gate,
25
of
that
you
can
pick
back
in
there
for
credit
on
that.
So
you
get
20
the
fifty
dollars
just
so
there's
a
minimal
spin,
so
you
don't
just
have
enough
to
get
in
there
and
be
a
pain
in
the
neck.
Asking
everybody
for
a
drink.
You
know
what
I
mean.
AK
So
it's
kind
of
something
like
that's
got
to
have
a
little
minimal,
Spin
and
25
is
not
asking
for
a
lot
to
spend
at
a
place
for
the
day.
So
you
came
with
something
so
but,
like
I
said,
the
25
bucks
is
credited
back
per
person.
So
with
eight
people
you
have
two
hundred
dollars
credited
back
already.
If
you
got
a
group
of
eight,
so
basically
you
get
it
for
what
you
paid
to
get
in,
but
they're
limited,
there's
only
10
of
them
rooms.
B
C
A
B
Do
you
have
any
questions
or
or
not,
questions
or
items
for
discussion,
or
you
just
see
it
so,
just
as
a
reminder,
the
staff
recommendation
is
to
support
a
recommend
Denial
on
B
and
and
on
C
recommend
denial,
but
is
open
to
having
the
trash
enclosure
be
at
the
northern
portion
of
the
parking
area.
B
No,
it's
staff
supports
approval
of
a
recommends.
Denial
of
B
recommends
denial
of
C,
but
is
open
to
having
the
trash
enclosure
be
on
the
Northern
portion
of
the
parking
area.
So
the
the
statute,
the
the
rule,
is
that
the
trash
enclosure
be
required
to
be
situated
in
rear
yards,
but
since
the
rear
yard
isn't
really
possible.
In
this
case,
the
staff
would
like
it
moved
to
the
northern
and
Earth
Western
end
I'm,
sorry,
yeah.
O
F
I
believe
it's
been
there's
a
dumpster.
It's
part
of
this
site
plan.
They
have
to
bring
the
site
into
full
compliance
with
current
standards.
So
even
if
the
trash
enclosure
has
been
there
for
50
years
without
an
enclosure
structure,
they
would
still
have
to
provide
a
new
structure
that
meets
our
current
requirements.
O
I'm
not
opposed
to
structure
I,
guess
I
am
just
sort
of
thinking.
You
have
a
if
you
have
a
public
facility,
a
whole
lot
of
people
and
there
is
actually
a
flow
to
how
the
back
of
house
works
and
we're
actually
requesting
a
change
to
back
of
house.
That
seems
like
it
could
get
problematic
and
we
end
up
with
more
problems
than
we
solve,
especially
if
we
have
an
enclosure
that
meets
or
priorities.
Is
there
any
indication
that
the
statements
they've
made
with
respect
to
how
operations
work
is
not
correct.
F
I
guess
I:
don't
have
any
thing
to
refute
what
they
said.
I
do
think
that
the
kitchen
there
is
in
the
middle
of
the
building,
so
from
my
untrained,
I
I
would
think
it'd
be
the
same
distance
to
go
to
the
West
as
it
would
be
to
the
east,
but
I.
O
O
If
we
think
that
we
can
screen
the
enclosure,
I
guess
I'd
be
leaning
towards
not
messing
with
back
of
house
operations
that
are
going
to
end
up
with
a
safety
issue
if
you're
putting
carrying
stuff
through
a
pool
deck
but
again,
I
I,
don't
know
I'm.
Only
seeing
this
picture
and
hearing
what
he's
stating
if
I'm
believing
him,
it
does
look
like
it's
more
difficult
to
go
west
than
it
does
East,
even
though
I
understand
that
if
this
isn't
different,
oh
I'm,
sorry
this
is
about
this
is
about
C.
Isn't
it.
O
J
We've
heard
quite
a
bit
of
concern
on
the
East
side
this
evening
about
water
and
water
drainage,
and
so
we
know
that
it's
a
real
problem.
It's
a
very
you
know
it's.
The
Topography
is
irregular
and
it's
lovely
because
of
that.
My
question
is:
we've
heard
concerns
from
Neighbors
about
this
very
issue.
J
What
relief
do
they
have
if
the
drainage
plan
in
this
proposal
does
not
work?
What
relief
can
they
are?
Will
they
be
able
to
obtain
if
any.
K
I
mean
I,
think
there'd
be
something
you
know
would
be
with
our
zoning
enforcement
staff.
We
would
work
with
them
and
if
there
were
consistent
complaints,
if
some
of
the
stormwater
management
facilities
weren't,
maybe
installed
or
constructed
accurately,
that's
something
that
we
could
investigate
and
send
City
inspectors
out
there
to
do
that.
That
would
be
my
first
punch
for.
F
That
it
could
be
considered
a
nuisance,
the
city
could
take
action
through
a
nuisance
process
or
I
know.
The
neighbors
wouldn't
want
to
hear
this,
but
we'd
also
leave
it
up
to
them
that
they
could.
You
know,
file
an
a
lawsuit
in
court
that
you
know
between
two
private
property
owners
that
one's
inflicting
damage
on
the
other.
C
I
guess
I
would
just
add
that
I
don't
know
if
I
have
any
heartburn
about
the
dumpster
enclosure
location
if
they're
screening
it
properly,
but
that
accessory
pool
structure
gives
me
a
bit
of
heartburn
I'm
sure
Carol's
concerns
so
I
and
I
understand
the
adjacency
to
the
pool
is
important
and
the
further
you
get
away
the
more
cost
you
add
so
I
would
like
to
see
it
push
North
more
towards
the
building
and
screen
with
some
Landscaping.
C
K
O
Sorry,
it's
having
staff
have
final
say
over
the
external
view
of
that
shed
something
that's
possible
because
I
again,
it
seems
like
the
other
statement
made
was
was
the
location
of
it
is
dictated
by
health
and
safety,
because
that's
where
I
don't
know,
if
that's
accurate,
but
if
it
is
health
and
safety,
there
is
a
there's,
an
issue
in
the
Run
between
the
cleaning
materials
and
the
pool
with
a
relatively
large
pool.
I,
don't
think
I'd
want
to
be
approving
a
germ
pond.
F
F
B
I
mean
I
do
feel
like
if
you
rent
one
of
those
Cabanas
for
a
couple
hundred
dollars
having
a
shed
right
in
front
of
you.
It
is
a
bit
of
a
deterrent,
I
guess
what
I
would
prefer
to
see
and-
and
people
can
disagree
with
me-
is
just
more
screening,
more
landscape
screening
around
that
you
know.
Building
at
that
location.
S
It's
definitely
no
I
was
saying
that
there
is
some
some
ornamental
grasses
that
go
up
eight
to
ten
foot
tall.
That
could
hide
that
and
then,
if
he's
as,
if
he
is
doing
any
of
the
palm
tree
layering
on
the
roofing,
it
would
go
very
well
with
it
and
and
make
it
a
little
more
sexier.
O
I
would
support
the
screening
because
I
mean
if
we
move
if
we
move
the
shed
you're
talking
about
eliminating
what,
like
eight,
you
know,
an
eighth
of
the
actual
rentable
structure,
sort
of
negatively
impacting
the
Prof.
You
know
negatively,
impacting
the
viability
of
this
and
shifting
it
again
too
far
seems
like
if
I'm
understanding,
correctly
health
and
safety
issue-
nada,
not
just
a
you-
know,
we're
moving
a
piece
of
equipment,
that's
needed
to
make
sure
people
are
not
sitting
in
filthy
water,
yeah.
S
B
S
S
Yeah
leave
parking
where
it
is
a
B.
Is
that
the
shed
yes
approve
the
shed
so
long
as
there's
some
significant
Landscaping
to
shield
and
cover
the
building
would.
S
AC
B
Said
I'll
kosher;
okay,
great!
Thank
you.
That
is
the
motion.
All
those
in
favor
raise
your
right
hand.