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B
Started
and
if
it's
acceptable
to
everyone
I'm
going
to
start
with
our
resolution
of
appreciation,
which
is
item
three
a
little
bit
out
of
order.
This
being
Jim
probably
has
forgotten
that
this
is
his
last
week,
but
we
haven't.
This
is
Jim's
last
meeting
and
we
are
going
to
miss
him.
He
has
been
a
great
asset
to
this
war.
I
guess
the
boss
told
him
it
was
time
to
do
something
else,
and
you
hadn't
listened
right.
C
B
B
Me,
instead
of
reading
all
the,
whereas
is
I
mean
we
all
know
that
that
jim
has
added
a
great
deal
to
this
board,
both
in
common
sense
and
sometimes
his
ability
to
calm
things
down.
I
think
we'd
all
agree
on
his
work
start
up
the
Saylorville
water
treatment
plant,
launching
the
parka
texture
project,
which
was
the
international
design
competition
for
water
works
park
that
included
our
cooperation
with
the
City
of
Des
Moines
work
with
our
wholesale
customers.
B
The
list
goes
on
and
on
I
won't
go
through
it
all,
but
Jim
is
I
think
what
a
lot
of
us
would
aspire
to
be
in
being
board
member.
We
appreciate
your
time
and
all
your
efforts
on
this
board.
You
have
served
in
this
capacity
for
a
long
time
and
we
appreciate
it.
We
have
a
gift
for
you
and
I'm
like
to
share
I,
also
brought
and
I
wish.
Everybody
would
start
taking
advantage
of
this.
B
A
D
C
A
If
I
made
Jim,
if
that
weren't
embarrassing
enough,
the
staff
and
great
regard
for
all
the
work
you've
done
on
behalf
of
the
utility
have
come
together
with
it
with
card
a
small
token
of
our
appreciation
that
we
hope
you
we're
in
remembrance
of
us
I've
had
the
pleasure
Jamie
working
with
you
for
many
years
before
I
came
here
and
it's
always
comforting
to
find
a
friendly
face
and
you've
always
been
a
friendly
face
to
me
and
to
the
organization
of
water
works
into
our
customers.
So
I
hope
you
enjoyed
this.
C
B
You
go
I'll
also
mention
that
we're
joined
today.
The
mayor
has
appointed
in
the
City.
Council
will
probably
take
action
on
a
new
member
of
this
board
in
their
next
meeting,
but
mark
Wallace's,
which
is
America's
appointed
mark
for
those
of
you
who
don't
know
mark.
You
should
introduce
yourself
to
him.
He
bring.
He
will
bring
a
lot
of
experience,
let
it
over
on
the
east
side
and
I
won't
go
through
his
resume,
but
in
the
next
few
weeks,
mark
will
be
around
here
and
we'll.
Try
to
scare
them
off
bring
him
up
the
speed.
B
B
Februari,
26,
Board
of
Water,
Works
trustees,
meeting
the
March
5th
planning
committee
meeting
in
the
March
12
finance
and
Audit
Committee
meeting
financial
statements,
a
list
of
payments
for
februari
2013.
Our
next
meeting
date
is
april.
Twenty
third
and
summary
of
the
CDU
CEO
approved
expended
excess
of
twenty
thousand
dollars
which,
as
we
all
know,
is,
is
a
new
item
in
our
consent.
Agenda
and
I
believe
that
our
CEO
is
going
to
make
common.
But
those
are
our
consent
agenda
items
if
I
could
have
a
motion
to
approve
those
so
moved.
A
If
I
may,
before
your
approval
of
1d,
a
couple
comments
really
to
the
issue
of
different
eyes,
see
things
differently.
You'll
note
on
your
item,
1
c
8
pages
and
I
believe
some
520
line
item
checks
that
have
been
written
in
the
month
of
februari.
A
finance
staff
is
kind
of
worked
with.
What
I
thought
was
the
intent
of
your
concerns
about
red
flagging
off
of
these
pages
issues
that
may
be
of
interest
to
you.
They
have
come
up
with
a
single
item
that
I'm
going
to
talk
about
in
my
perusal
of
these
520
items.
A
For
typically,
we
don't
pay
money
to
xenia,
they
pay
money
to
us
as
a
wholesaler
of
water
to
them.
However,
helping
moon
joint
facility,
we
under
agreement
with
with
Xenia
and
others,
essentially
have
apportioned
that
portion
of
our
OEM
costs
of
that
facility
to
a
number
of
other
communities
who
also
use
the
pump
station
there
in
2009.
However,
Xenia
constructed
their
own
stand
aside
pump
station
at
that
facility
also,
but
we
continue
to
build
them
a
portion
to
cost
for
our
oh
NM,
and
I
believe
it
was
Mike
I
thought
I
saw
him
in
here.
A
Yes,
Mike
wasn't
at
your
staff,
that
red
flag
that
and
realized
and
amy
is
walking
back
through
as
well
as
Peggy
to
confirmed
that
that
was
in
fact
the
correct
amount
worm,
confident
that
Xenia
would
not
have
picked
up
on
it.
But
it's
really
a
situation
where
we
over
build
and
on
our
initiative,
paid
out
almost
fifty
three
thousand
dollars
to
xenia.
So
that
obviously,
is
a
kind
of
item.
I
assume
you
would
have
some
interest
in
seeing.
A
It
was
very
grateful
for
the
windfall
payment
of
fifty
two
thousand
eight
hundred
three
dollars
and
forty-five
cents
Amy
aiming
further.
You
want
to
add
on
the
payment
and
we'd,
be
happy
to
try
and
answer
any
questions
or
concerns
you
might
have
on
that.
One,
as
you
think
that
went
through
another
item
that,
at
my
perusal
of
this
I,
pulled
out
simply
because
it
fell
under
my
informal
criteria
thanks,
you
might
have
an
interest
in
if
I
can't
find
it
it's
a
payment.
A
On
page
six
of
the
materials
you
have
a
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
the
greater
Des
Moines
partnership.
That's
our
annual
payment
to
them.
I
know
that
there's
history
here
that
I've
not
been
privy
to,
but
it
is
essentially
our
continued
support
for
the
greater
Des
Moines
partnership
and
some
fifty
thousand
dollars
it's
near
the
bottom
of
that.
So
again,
if
our
lenses
mean
recalibration-
or
there
is
anything
further
that
you'd
like
to
see
any
considerations
that
are
important
to
you.
You'll
continue
to
read
full
will
give
you
the
raw
materials,
as
we
did
here
again.
A
520
check
payments
here
for
the
month
of
februari
kind
of
tedious
to
go
through
will
try
to
do
that
on
your
behalf,
but
if
we
miss
anything
or
over-reporting
whatever
it
may
be
under
over-reporting,
we
sure
would
appreciate
your
feedback
on
that.
But
those
are
the
two
items
that
I
had
members
of
the
board
on
the
CEO
approved
expenditures
in
excess
of
20,000.
F
Just
a
crab
because
I
thank
you
for
saying
that
I
know
you're
coming
in
new
to
the
whole
point:
Gardner
ship,
we
were
very
specific,
I
would
say,
with
the
leadership
at
the
Des
Moines
partnership
as
to
what
we
would
like
to
see
in
return
for
our
$50,000,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
debate
at
the
board
level
and
so
I
think
we
were
very
clear.
I
think
it
would
be
a
nice
item
to
bring
back
to
an
upcoming
finance
meeting
exactly
the
status
of
those
expectations.
F
A
lot
of
them
would
involve
staff
and
then,
secondly
and
I
know.
Last
year,
Linda
attempted
the
partnership
trip
to
DC,
and
it
would
be
nice
to
know
if
they
intend
to
have
anything
that
is
of
concern
to
us
on
the
legislative
agenda
as
we
go
back
in
May,
because
I
I
don't
know
that
there
are
that
many
companies
or
organizations
that
contribute
at
that
kind
of
level
that
are
in
a
situation
like
a
sonata
and.
A
We'll
be
happy
to
provide
you
an
update,
finance,
an
audit
or
the
board
more
generally,
whatever
your
preferences,
maybe
I
will
certainly
one
issue
that
can
report
out
on
sue.
We
were
invited
to
participate
in
the
washington
trip
after
review
in
my
after
my
review
of
rather
the
benefit
cost
analysis
made
sense.
This
year
I
chose
not
to
participate
in
that,
I
believe,
and
whether
you
may
remember
the
dollars
2300
or
something
it
was
a
fairly
significant
investment.
A
I
decided
either
not
personally
to
attend
or
to
have
a
member
of
the
Water
Works
staff
attempt,
but
I
realized
a
larger
question.
You're
asking
is
a
status
report
on
a
number
of
things
involving
the
partnership
happy
to
come
back
on
that,
but
I
wanted
to
argue
that
we
were
extended.
The
invitation
which
I
declined
to
take
the
Washington
lobbying
trip
bill.
H
G
B
H
B
He
should
have
the
ability
to
spend
those
dollars,
but
we
wanted
transparency
and
some
reporting
and
that's
why
we
talked
about
it.
Maybe
we
spend
a
little
bit
more
time.
I
I
had
a
back
and
forth
with
a
Des
Moines
resident
recently
on
this
matter
as
a
guy
who
she
was
responding
to
my
public
comments
about
another
body's
lack
of
transparency,
and
she
brought
up
this
issue
and
mentioned
that
we
had
not
discussed
as
a
board
providing
you
this
authority
in
public,
and
my
recollection
serves
me
correctly.
B
I
think
we
had
at
least
two
public
meetings
about
this,
but
my
recomendation
to
her
as
it
remains
with
everyone
that
this
in
this
particular
matter.
When
it
comes
to
the
CEO
spending
authority,
we
it
is
something
we
are
revisiting,
visited
every
every
month
at
our
board
meeting
we're
going
to
continue
to.
If
there
is
a
concern
on
this
board.
There's
concern
in
the
public.
B
Now
is
the
time
to
talk
about
it
at
public
at
our
public
comment
periods
of
time
to
talk
about
it,
we're
we're
willing
to
revisit
this
at
any
time
if
there's
a
problem,
but
the
last
thing
I'd
want
to
want
this
board
ever
be
accused
of
is
not
being
open
and
transparent.
So
anyway,
I
appreciate
that.
So
that's
a
consent
agenda.
If
there's
any
other
comment,
not
hearing
any
all
those
in
favor
hi
those
opposed
all
right
hearing,
none,
we
will
move
to
item
3b
done
a
praise
Jim.
B
B
F
E
I
B
B
H
B
B
F
A
Briefly,
as
as
you
all
know,
we
have
about
2
million
dollars,
budgeted
PC
each
year
for
water
main
replacement.
Our
experience
leads
us
to
the
process
of
splitting
that
and
do
smaller
bids
that
it's
essentially
to
1
million
dollar
projects.
This
is
the
first
phase
of
that
series
of
projects
that
we're
looking
at.
A
You
have
a
map
in
the
materials
behind
the
yellow
sheet
that
will
indicate
where
our
distribution,
Department
and
our
engineering
department
and
coordination
to
have
pinpointed
the
greatest
need
for
main
replacement,
most
of
it
as
you'll
note
in
North
West
Des
Moines,
but
we
estimate
this
project
in
these
areas
to
be
at
about
1.1
million
dollars.
We're
asking
your
approval
to
authorize
and
solicit
bids
here
for
phase
one
or
contract,
one
of
the
water
project.
I
A
Know,
and
one
of
the
ironies
that
I'm
finding
is
I'm
around
here,
more
Leslie
is
that
age
itself
is
not
a
good
indicator
of
failure.
I
think
Ted
and
others
bar
knowledgeable
than
me
in
this
audience
will
would
indicate
to
you
that
a
lot
of
cast
iron-
that's
100
years
old,
has
probably
more
life
cycle
left
in
it
than
some
newer
pipe.
A
A
That
is
we'll
have
a
better
sense
of
not
only
age
but
better
ability
to
be
able
to
pull
out
condition
and
maintenance
history,
but
these
are
the
best
recommendations
that
we
would
make
not
simply
on
age
of
pipe
but
on
condition
and
our
need
to
have
gone
in
there
and
performed
repairs,
particularly
in
the
last
couple
years.
Ted.
Anything
you
or
Gary
want
to
add
to
that
on.
Why
here
and
why
they're
not
the.
I
B
F
That
brings
up
a
similar
question
that
I
will
put
our
CEO
on
the
spot.
I
had
a
call
yesterday
from
a
customer
doing
what
works
customer
about
the
insurance
that
we
now
offer
through
home.
Sir,
and
the
question
was,
and
since
this
is
televised,
a
lot
of
people
may
want
to
know
the
same
thing
she
said
my
house
was
built
in
the
early
70s
should
I
be
concerned
about
the
pipe.
With
that
age
of
a
hall
and
I
said
you
know
it's
insurance.
F
A
A
Me
try
to
weight
into
it
a
little
bit
there,
certainly
against
some
very
informed
folks
out
here
in
the
audience,
though,
I'm
short
of
of
the
home
serve
product
is
ultimately
it's
a
risk
management
brokerage.
If
you
will,
on
the
end
of
it
on
an
individual
basis,
there's
no
clean
rule,
that's
going
to
say
if
it
was
before
ex-state,
you
should
buy
it
or
if
it
was
built
after
why
date
you
shouldn't
buy
it.
A
lot
of
it
is
going
to
depend
upon
the
powers
for
risk.
H
A
Dollars
a
year
for
insurance
as
opposed
to
a
risk
of
replacement
of
the
thousands
of
dollars,
but
as
an
example,
I
live
in
this
area
with
a
house.
That's
less
than
15
years
old,
I'm,
confident
the
construction
standards
under
Des
Moines
requirements
were
met,
but
the
length
of
my
service
is
so
long
that
the
opportunity
for
problem
is
different
than
if
it's
a
shorter
service.
So
it's
more
than
simply
the
type
of
pipe
the
year
of
construction.
A
There
are
lots
of
things
that
have
to
go
into
your
individual
risk,
calculus
for
a
1970
home
that
isn't
create
any
particular
concern
to
me
of
imminent
failure.
If
it
were
a
1907
home,
my
view
of
the
risk
would
be
substantially
higher
but
ultimately
becomes.
You
know
how
somebody
wants
to
spend
fifty
dollars
a
year,
which
is
essentially
the
cost
of
the
home
serve
product.
H
A
It's
no
heart
and
there's
no
hard
and
fast
rule
again.
People
will
make
the
decisions
that's
their
most
informed
to
make,
but
if
I
were
living
in
a
house
that
were
relatively
new
and
we're
built
by
a
contractor
with
home
surrounding
me,
where
the
failure
rate
was
high,
that
would
be
an
indication
to
me
that
I
might
want
to
broker
that
risk
by
buying
insurance.
It's
not
simply
a
date
of
construction,
there,
a
lot
of
factors
that
play
into
it.
Thank
you.
B
F
A
I
may
just
briefly
comment
on
this.
This
one
has
some
fema
implications,
so
I
wanted
you
to
be
aware
of
it.
This
is
work
that
has
been
performed.
We've
been
reimbursed.
This
is
about
1.75
million
dollars
a
work
that's
been
performed.
We
have
been
reimbursed
through
FEMA
at
about
1.3
million.
As
you
know,
they
have
since
D
obligated
that
money,
essentially
asking
us
in
one
form
or
another,
to
refund
to
1.3
million,
that's
been
spent
to
us.
We
have
challenged
them
and
continue
to
challenge
it
under
under
Rick's
guidance
in
the
federal
court
system.
A
To
give
you
one
piece
of
additional
information,
a
motion
to
dismiss
our
lawsuit
has
been
filed,
we're
resisting
that
that's
probably
more
information
on
the
lawsuit
that
you
have
a
specific
interest
in,
but
my
point
in
disclosing
that
to
you
is
this:
is
a
fairly
large
construction
contract.
That's
been
completed,
the
work
has
been
done
satisfactorily.
Riley
does
very
good
work.
A
You'll
see
on
the
second
page,
a
nice
map
that's
been
prepared
by
our
engineering
department
to
give
you
a
better
sense
of
where
exactly
around
map-
and
this
is
done,
but
this
is
part
and
parcel
to
larger
litigation
that
we
have
going
on.
But
at
no
point
does
that
larger
litigation
remove
our
obligation
to
pay
Riley
for
work
completed
here
about
1.75
million
dollars.
B
B
We
were
bored
of
for
leaving
one
member
on
our
planning
committee
at
this
time
and
it
may
make
sense
to
just
kind
of
suspend
the
committee's
and
not
have
meetings
in
the
month
of
april
until
we're
till
we're
full
full
board
again,
I
would
hate
to
get
us
into
a
position
or
work
on
doing
that.
If
there's
any
second
thoughts
on
that
weekend,
if.
A
What
I'm
concerned
about
is
that
we
in
committees
present
a
position
that
either
the
entire
board
essentially
has
to
be
there
to
hear,
because
three
of
you
would
hear
audit
and
finance
issues
David,
then
to
be
able
to
fully
appreciate
that
would
have
to
come
to
the
audit
audience.
That
would
be
part
of
the
audience
for
the
finance
and
Audit
Committee,
or
we
would
have
to
come
back
and
redo
it
entirely
in
front
of
the
full
board.
So
it's
a
bit
awkward
I
think.
A
Given
our
current
status,
we
have
some
fairly
important
items
that
are
going
to
be
in
front
of
Finance
and
audit
in
this
next
month,
and
my
concern
is
that
we're
again
forcing
David
either
to
come
in
off
meeting
alpha
normally,
but
would
be
a
meeting
for
him
to
finance
an
audit
or
we're
walking
through
the
process,
and
I
said
I
think
that
creates
issues
and
how
we
record
it
and
how
we
make
the
data
available
to
the
public.
So
I
just
ask
your
consideration
and
patients
here
to
suspend
the
committee
system.
A
B
The
public-
and
this
goes
to
that
larger
discussion-
that
we
started
in
January
I
race,
at
least
in
January,
about
thinking
about
our
committees
that
were
efficiently
operating
the
committee
structure.
One
of
my
concerns
about
our
current
committee
structure
is
that
that
we
not
put
staff
in
a
position
to
have
to
present
the
issue
twice
present,
something
at
a
committee
meeting
and
then
presented
to
the
board.
B
I
have
a
second
I
guess:
there's
a
second
possibility
where
we
could
discuss
something
at
great
length
in
a
committee
meeting
and
then
not
spend
the
time
in
this
meeting
when
members
of
the
public
and
others
might
come
to
hear
it
and
feel
like
somehow
we're
circumventing
the
public
process.
But
my
bigger
concern
is
that
we
efficiently
use
our
time
as
a
board
that
the
staffs
time
as
well
I
think
the
issue
that
Sue
raised
about
the
partnership
is
a
good
example.
B
That
is
a
good
I,
think,
a
good
use
of
a
committee
structure
where
there's
a
specific
question
that
the
board
would
like
to
explore.
Instead
of
having
the
board
take
its
time,
the
committee
do
that
and
then
report
back
so
I
think
over
the
next
time
period
and
then,
as
we
get
a
new
member
of
the
board,
we
should
have
that
discussion
about
how
we,
if
we're
going
to
change
the
process
at
all
with
committees.
Now
is
the
time
to
do
it.
B
A
Thought
realistically,
I
think
I
would
do
it
in
month
increments,
certainly
in
April
to
suspend
it
whether
you
would
decide
to
do
that
may
or
not.
I
think
depends
on
the
time
frame
in
which
we
get
our
fifth
member
and
what
you
all
decide
in
terms
of
the
efficiency
of
the
current
system.
So
I
take
it
at
a
month
at
a
time
right
now,
it's
an
april
proposal
that
I
would
make
to
you
whether
it
goes
beyond
that
I
think
there's
really
kind
of
dependent
on
what
happens
between
now
and
the
end
of
April.
The.
B
One
thing:
I
don't
want
to
lose
if
we
change,
maybe
we
don't
change
anything,
but
is
the
board's
ability
to
digging
as
deep
as
they
want
an
issue
and
if
somehow
revamping
the
committee
process
arms
that
in
some
way
that
we
don't
have
the
ability
to
ask
the
questions
or
dig
as
deep
that
I
don't
want
to
do
it.
But
if
there's
a
way
to
make
it
more
efficient,
which
I
think
there
might
be,
then
that's.
A
Of
course,
the
committee
meetings
are
public
as
well
they're
public
meetings
publicized
and
recorded
that
the
recorded
a
different
level
than
the
visual
grantee
recording
I
hear.
One
of
my
concerns
is
that
not
just
the
inefficiency
but
sometimes
the
difficulty
of
making
sure
that
we're
clearly
communicating
with
all
of
you
in
when
you
have
a
subgroup?
Sometimes
it
becomes
difficult
to
know
if
that
has
been.
If
there's
some
redundancy
in
the
communication
that
is
didn't.
A
Her
committee,
but
did
that
was
everyone
there
for
that.
They
all
heard
that
discussion
becomes
a
little
bit
puzzling,
sometimes
for
us
at
least
for
me.
So
I
just
asked
you
to
try
this
for
one
month.
If
it,
you
know,
if
it
raises
concerns
for
you,
it's
merely
a
recommendation.
We
can
go
through
it
twice,
but
I
think
at
this
point
it
becomes
a
pre
awkward
for
Dave
who's,
a
member
of
a
committee
with
a
single
member.
Do
we
then
have
that
committee
meet
I
mean?
How
does
that
work?
No.
C
C
C
C
C
A
If
I
may
add
a
couple
of
updates
on
items
that
you
raised
jam
on
ragbrai,
certainly
there
is
an
assumption
that
right,
Bry
will
be
here,
we're
still
negotiating
that
with
the
register,
and
certainly
it's
an
action
that
we
would
bring
back
for
your
consideration,
but
we
have
every
intention
of
making
sure
that
it
is
a
money-making
process
for
us.
That
is,
we
host
a
lot
of
events
here.
Each
event
takes
a
toll
out
of
our
operation
and
maintenance
budget.
We
would
view
this
is
no
different
than
others
that
we
host.
A
We
will
be
negotiating
fees
for
that
and
bring
it
back
for
your
approval.
It's
not
a
fait
accompli
that
that's
going
to
happen.
Second,
some
discussion
on
part
planning,
I
know:
there's
been
some
pushback
Scott
isn't
here,
but
I
know
Scott
ads
and
attended
a
meeting
last
night
of
the
urban
deer
hunters.
As
you
know,
we
have
gone
down
a
path
of
suspending
a
deer
hunting
in
the
park.
A
There
are
certainly
some
folks
who
disagree
with
that
approach
and
it
made
that
very
clear
to
us
last
night
and
had
some
discussions
actually
in
this
room,
so
I
wanted.
You
to
be
aware
of
that.
I
am
told
that
board
counsel
people
in
particular
pretty
interested
in
that.
So
you
you
may
hear
something
back
about
that.
A
But
again
you're
certainly
welcome
to
change
the
approach
that
staff
is
taking,
but
staff
is
clear
in
its
approach
to
the
public
that
we
are
going
to
suspend
based
upon
our
view
that
the
deer
herd
has
been
cleared
significantly,
that
we're
not
seeing
traffic
accidents
on
either
flu
or
flight
Parkway
nor
damage
within
the
park.
That
would
indicate
to
us
that
we
need
to
continue
to
participate
in
the
urban
deer
hunt.
So
that
is
the
path
we're
taking.
A
F
Jim
I
have
a
question
for
your
right.
Right.
I
would
be
very
excited
if
we
could
have
ragbrai.
You
know
staying
right
here
at
waterworks
park
and
I
saw
Laura
here
earlier,
but
I
think
she
left
Laura
sarcone
our
marketing
person.
If
we
do
have
this
chance,
I,
hopefully
promote
the
heck
out
of
water
works
and
what
a
unique
jewel
we
have
here.
F
Yes
right,
that's
not
a
lively
discussion.
I,
look
to
a
couple
of
gentlemen
in
the
back
row
jump
to
the
end
of
the
meeting.
Thank
you
very
much
for
being
part
of
the
public
comment
process
and
I
noticed
you
brought
some
additional
friends
with
you
and
I
want
to
start
with
the
last
item
we
discussed,
and
that
was
the
pension.
F
It
was
brought
up
during
the
public
comment
period
and
it
was
clear
that
I
think
some
rumors
have
started
to
circulate
regarding
what
we
are
doing
on
the
pension
and
I
just
want
to
make
it
public
that
we
have
not
had
any
discussions
as
bored
with
what
we
are
doing,
but
we
look
forward
to
finding
out
what
we
can
do
to
make
this
financially
work.
For
the
four
des
moines
water
works.
We
are
spending
3.2
million
dollars.
F
We
were
reminded
out
of
our
operating
budget,
too
support
our
pension
plan
and
we
want
to
ensure
that
it
works
for
all
and
regarded.
But
I
do
want
to
thank
both
of
you
for
speaking
up
and
I
hope
that
you
continue
to
do
so.
But
the
first
item,
which
was
extremely
helpful,
was
Peggy:
furries,
went
over
a
different
methodology
for
the
budget
and
most
of
us
were
there
I
think
we
really
appreciated
a
different
approach
to
looking
at
how
we
are
spending
money
within
each
department.
F
So
thank
you
for
that
and
then,
as
a
board,
we
reviewed
and
supported
the
current
process
that
we
have
in
place
regarding
tenant,
collection
and
delinquencies,
and
this
was
something
that
I
think
it
was
extremely
helpful
for
us
to
understand
how
many
of
our
accounts
of
the
total
des
moines
water
works.
Accounts
are
made
up
of
those
that
are
tenant
properties
and
yet,
but
a
high
percentage
of
those
actually
go
to
collections.
F
A
You
I
just
have
two
comments,
and
one
of
them
relates
back
to
Sue's
discussion
on
pension
plans
tomorrow
at
seven
o'clock
at
eight-thirty,
we'll
be
meeting
with
employees
at
the
training
facility
in
the
plan
itself
and
then
at
ten
o'clock
and
two
o'clock
we'll
be
meeting
here
doing
exactly
the
same
thing:
the
materials
that
are
going
to
be
provided
to
our
employees.
Tomorrow,
we
will
be
providing
to
you
all
as
a
board,
either
in
the
finance
and
audit
committee
or
again
depending
on
the
direction
you
want
to
take
to
the
committee
to
the
board.
A
B
A
Is
the
basic
answer
to
your
question
tomorrow?
The
format
is
essentially
this
I'll
introduce
our
consultant.
Our
consultant
from
Omaha
will
be
in
here.
Bellevue
to
be
precise,
will
be
in
here.
Kevin
aw,
McDonald
I
will
be
in
here
to
make
a
presentation
about
the
current
status
of
the
plan,
some
possibilities
on
how
we
can
reduce
costs
for
continuing
the
plan.
Some
suggested
approaches
to
that
process
of
making
the
plan
sustainable
alternatives
to
the
current
plan
will
be
asking
employees
for
their
suggestions
concerns.
A
That's
basically
the
format
it
will
take
about
an
hour
and
we'll
be
doing
that
again
to
meet
two
meetings
down
within
the
plan
itself.
To
hear
will
be
done
tomorrow
with
that
process.
That
consultant
will
gather
that
information
and
be
in
the
process
of
synthesizing
that,
as
well
as
options,
will
come
back
to
you
before
there
any
recommendations
that
are
made
so
that
you
can
see
the
same
materials
that
our
employees
saw.
A
Obviously,
the
conversation
maybe
a
little
bit
different
because
we're
not
going
to
have
all
200
people
in
front
of
you
unless
they
choose
to
come
to
the
board
presentation
but
I
really
again.
Despite
all
of
the
suspicion
that's
been
raised
on
this
issue
of
you,
it's
entirely
appropriate
to
talk
with
our
employees,
about
the
current
condition
and
the
process
that
we're
going
to
go
through
before
we
get
into
any
specifics
with
you.
That's
the
approach
that
I've
taken.
A
B
A
A
B
This
is
it,
this
is
what
I
want
you
get
to,
because
we
have
our
meeting
that's
going
to
be
an
opportunity.
The
employees
will
have
had
an
opportunity
to
look
at
this
in
depth
to
talk
about
it.
Employee
group
will
have
had
the
opportunity-
and
at
that
point
you
know
between
tomorrow
and
when
we
meet
and
in
our
meeting
employees
can
bring
to
the
board
their
thoughts
and
their
comments,
and
we'll
have
the
opportunity
at
this
at
our
meeting
to
do
so.
Absolutely.
A
Let
me
be
clear:
we
will
be
providing
you,
the
slight
information.
That's
going
to
be
provided
to
our
employees
in
April
that'll,
be
a
public
meeting,
so
certainly
an
opportunity
for
comments.
There
will
be
no
recommendations
that
are
going
to
be
made
to
you
in
April
when
those
recommendations
are
made
to
you
at
a
date,
that's
in
the
entity
term,
yet
to
be
determined.
But
if
I
were
guessing
today
and
it's
merely
a
guess-
it's
not
with
precision,
it
would
be
July
timeframe.
A
Certainly
that
would
be
in
a
public
meeting
and
lots
of
opportunity
for
comment
at
that
point
2.
So
this
iterative
process
of
staking
out
a
direction
getting
additional
information
to
correct
our
direction
based
upon
our
employees
and
based
upon
our
consultant,
coming
back
to
you
multiple
times
and
doing
it
in
public.
Is
the
process
we're
going
to
continue
to
fall.
H
A
Meetings
tomorrow
again
to
make
clear
to
you
all
that,
if
any
of
you
would
decide
to
attend
those
meetings,
I'd
certainly
like
to
know
about
it,
because
if
three
or
more
of
you
are
in
attendance,
it
raises
questions
and
concerns
about
open
meeting
requirements.
So
certainly
like
to
know
about
that.
If
you
would
choose
to
do
that,
not
to
discourage
you
from
doing
it,
but
perhaps
to
consider
how
it's
time,
let's
put
it
that
way.
Well,.
B
B
A
Second
and
final
item
that
I
have
just
to
provide
you.
Some
information
on
Rick
and
I
have
been
in
pretty
intensive
discussions
actually
in
the
last
24
hours
or
so
with
the
City
of
Des
Moines
on
the
emergent
issue.
That's
the
issue
where
the
City
of
Des
Moines
has
come
to
us
and
asked
us
to
approve
a
sale
of
a
portion
of
the
land
we
jointly
owned
to
the
City
of
Des
Moines
to
hell
in
a
chemical
I.
A
A
So
this
issue
seems
to
be
in
terminology
that
Rick
and
I've
used
before
hurry
up
and
wait,
but
I'm
pretty
confident
now
based
on
the
specificity
of
the
materials
they
provided
us
that
they're
very
interested
in
having
this
closed
down,
so
they
can
move
on
with
our
transaction
voting
Helen
Helen
on
chemical
before
your
next
board
meeting,
so
we'll
work
on
the
requirements
for
an
open
meeting.
That
is
still
a
special
meeting
in
a
way
that
will
comport
with
Iowa
law
and
with
your
requirements
for
public
involvement.
A
If
the
public
has
any
interest
in
this
issue,
but
stay
tuned
on
this
one
where
Rick
and
I'll
be
talking
about
it
after
this
meeting,
in
fact,
so
there
have
been
some
significant
developments
there.
We
view
them
positively
in
general,
but
some
specific
concerns
about
some
of
the
language
that's
been
provided
to
us,
so
stay
tuned
on
that
one
pretty
complicated
that
deagol,
as
you
can
imagine,
that's
all
I
happen.
Tell
you
anything.
H
A
G
They
have
four
items
in
the
bill
and
all
four
of
those
are
moving
forward.
We've
been
following
them:
we've
been
talking
with
them
and
we're
in
agreement
with
the
provisions
we're
both
supposed
to
be
debated
today,
but
both
the
House
and
the
Senate
have
convened
and
left
for
caucus,
probably
with
less
than
five
minutes
of
actually
being
in
some
being
convened
session.
So
they
not
moved
ahead
very
far.
G
So
the
Iowa
Association
water
agencies
are
is
going
to
try
to
get
with
the
other
water
associations
and
indicate
that
we
are
disappointed
with
that
and
that
we
would
like
to
see
them
reconsider.
One
of
the
governor's
appointments
to
date
has
had
to
withdraw
his
nomination,
and
so
there
is
still
one
position
open,
so
we're
hoping
to
be
able
to
do
that
water
day
at
the
Capitol
was
last
week
and
we
had
a
very
good
turnout.
G
We
were
a
little
skeptical
because
the
legislature
doesn't
usually
come
in
until
noon
on
Monday,
and
this
was
the
day
after
st.
Patrick's
Day.
So
we
didn't
know
how
much
of
a
turnout
we
would
have,
but
most
all
of
the
feedback
that
I
received
from
people
who
attended
thought
that
it
was
very
well
attended.
We
thought
we
saw
more
traffic
of
legislators
coming
by
then
we
have
seen
the
last
couple
of
years
and
so
was
very
pleased
with
it
and
we'll
plan
to
continue
that
into
next
year.
Again,.
F
Graham
I
would
just
like
to
mention
on
that.
I
was
at
the
Capitol
and
and
our
CEO
was
out
running
around
talking
the
legislators.
They
said
he
was
not
standing
behind
the
booth,
but
Mike
Riley
was
there
and
lund
was
there
and
they
had
a
very
nice
setup
and
they
were
handing
out
des
moines.
Water
works
jugs,
and
it
was
just
a
nice
representation
of
what
you
do
here.
So
yep.
G
H
A
A
That
we
think
is
dave
pointed
out
in
some
of
our
discussions
at
subcommittee
on
this
issue.
We
have
an
opportunity
to
work
with
legislators
and
lobbyists
to
craft
legislation
that
we
think
is
going
to
be
as
favorable
to
us
as
it
possibly
can
be,
but
I
want
you
to
be
aware
of
that.
Well,
I'm,
hopefully
have
more
specificity
on
that.
G
B
E
I'm
top
on
a
knee
and
water
distribution,
I
just
have
a
question
about
the
pension
meetings.
Tomorrow,
everything
that's
presented
all
the
employees
comments
I'm
wondering
if
there
and
I've
heard
a
little
bit
about
this,
but
are
they
going
to
be
recorded?
So
you
can
hear
every
employees
concern
about
Tom.
A
We've
committed
to
recording
the
presentation
so
off
shift
people
have
an
opportunity
to
see
it.
I
have
chosen
not
to
record
verbatim
everything.
That's
said
for
a
number
of
different
reasons,
or
some
logistical
reasons,
and
also
because
intimidating
folks
who
want
to
share
information
in
one
context,
isn't
necessarily
in
my
view
and
our
employees
best
interest.
So
we're
not
going
to
be
recording
your
comments
or
my
comments
verbatim.
A
A
A
I'm
confident
that
both
our
consultant
and
staff,
who
hear
something
that's
you
know
an
important
consideration
right
that
has
not
come
across
our
minds
before,
are
going
to
be
doing
that.
But
it's
not
going
to
be
a
situation
in
my
view
where
we
want.
You
know
some
formal
record
that
attributes
comment.
Excellent,
I'm
donating
certain
understand.
B
It
will
not
be
a
public
meeting
in
the
fact
that
we
won't
take
any
action,
but
the
doors
remain
open.
Those
of
you
who
are
interested
in
staying
and
there's
pizza
and
still
be
equal
to
eat
you're
welcome
to
do
so,
but
with
that
this
part
of
the
machines,
meaning
is
a
jerk
anyway.
I
think
we
go
ahead
and
get
started
whenever
if.
A
I
reapply,
if
I
may
just
take
at
least
a
couple
minutes
to
queue
this
one
up,
not
even
a
couple
minutes:
you'll
recall
in
our
committee
discussion
and
finance
and
audit.
What
we're
attempting
to
do
is
a
staff
is
provide
you
an
alternative
to
the
work
plan,
method
of
presenting
information
to
you,
looking
more
at
the
department's
itself,
operating
expenses,
maintenance
expenses
as
well
as
capital
expenses.
During
that
discussion,
a
couple
things
came
to
mind.
A
J
Right
well,
the
first
one
is
a
correction
of
something
that
I
stated
that
was
entirely
incorrect.
So
as
long
as
bills
put
me
up
here
again,
I'll
just
set
the
record
straight,
and
that
is
in
this
line
on
this
slide,
where
it
says
capital
and
that's
six
hundred
and
forty-one
thousand
dollars
under
IT
capital
that
contains
no
labor
dollars.
That
is
entirely
other
expenditures,
ie
equipment
and
software.
So
all
labor
expenses
are
contained
on
the
labor
line.
J
Specifically,
that's
six
hundred
and
forty-one
thousand
dollars
of
the
capital,
IT
budget
hardware
and
software
up
at
the
top
computer
replacement
for
about
forty
three
thousand
dollars:
telecom
infrastructure
for
22
network
infrastructure
for
about
forty
thousand
and
microsoft,
licensing
for
50
and
then
the
second
section
down
below
eam
software
and
mobile
equipment.
109,000.
If
you
round
up
and
the
consultants
about
375,
if
you
round
up
for
a
total
of
four
hundred
and
eighty-three
thousand
dollars
for
2013,
which
is
phase
three
of
I,
am.
J
Second,
this
a
question
was
raised
when
we
went
through
the
information
about
under
utilities.
Under
the
IT
expenses,
we
had
phone
expense
of
131,000
budgeted
and
the
question
was
raised,
which
I
certainly
couldn't
answer
off.
The
top
of
my
head
was
what
what
was
that?
What
was
the
breakdown
of
that?
So
here
is
the
breakdown,
the
first
forty
two
thousand
dollars
that
generic
phone
system
description.
J
That
means
our
corporate
phone
system
both
coming
into
all
the
offices
and
coming
into
the
call
center
radio
frequency
for
a
thousand
dollars,
and
I
only
put
that
up
there,
it's
a
small
amount,
but
that
does
it
is
the
communication
back
to
des
moines.
Water
works
for
RF
meters
and
any
other
kind
of
other
radio
frequency
data
cards
for
laptops.
J
J
And
benefit
detail:
okay:
there
are
a
lot
of
numbers
on
here
and
shown
a
couple
of
different
ways.
So
the
first
column
is
strictly
the
dollar
amounts
that
are
budgeted
and
I'll
just
tool
through
them.
Really
quick
on
my
I
won't
name
the
amounts
as
we
go
through
about
retiring
medic,
retiree,
medical
insurance,
employee
medical
insurance,
long-term
disability,
better
known
as
ltd
life
insurance
and
accidental
death
and
dismemberment
insurance
deferred,
comp
match
flexpay
car
and
sell
allowance,
employer
sheriff
FICA,
I
purrs
and
the
pension
plan
contribution
and.
D
D
J
A
A
J
J
A
In
addition
to
the
52
thousand
dollars
here
that
are,
this
is
a
direct
payment
made
by
waterworks
to
the
provider
and
in
our
context,
essentially,
our
cell
phones
are
replacement
for
a
radio
system.
It's
the
push
to
talk
sprint
feature,
that's
pretty
helpful,
essentially
supplants,
a
UHF
or
VHF
radio
system.
So
this
is
direct.
Payment
by
us
to
sprint
has
to
be
contrasted
with
the
next
slide,
which
our
payments
may
do.
People
like
me,
who
have
a
cell
phone
allowance
where
the
the
phone
is
actually
a
number
ascribed
to
me.
A
J
J
So
if
you
divide
the
7.6
million
by
the
208,
you
get
36,000
37,000
the
cost
per
FTE,
also
shown
in
the
middle
column.
There
is
for
all
of
those
benefits,
the
percentage
that
they
are
of
the
total
of
seven
point:
six
million
dollars,
so
top-line
retiring
medical
insurance
204,000.
It
is
two
point:
seven
percent
of
the
total
seven
point,
six
percent,
so
that
would
be
one
way
of
looking
at
the
various
benefits
and
then
in
the
third
column
over
is
a
percent
of
labor
costs
and
I
shown
the
labor
costs
down
at
the
bottom.
A
I
A
A
D
J
It's
everything
it
is
in
essence,
anything
that
we
pay
to
an
outside
service
provider
and
the
real
only
difference
be
you'll
also
notice,
a
classification
of
like
materials
which
would
be
probably
what
you're
thinking
of
as
paper
other
kinds
of
supplies.
But
services
are
everything
from
consultants
on
the
capital
side,
those
would
be
purchase,
services
purchase
services.
Some
of
these
items
actually
depending
on,
if
they
don't
have
a
separate
line,
item,
might
fall
under
purchase
services.
Are
you
looking
at
the
actual
footage.
A
I
A
J
Certainly,
we
can
provide
that
detail.
I
may
also
like
to
point
out
that,
as
we
went
through
the
longer
budget
presentation
at
finance
and
audit,
for
instance,
or
the
finance
department,
that
was
one
of
the
categories
that
I
had
for
purchase
services
and
what
we
would
expect
as
each
of
the
directors
went
through
that
that
they
would
cover
that
within
each
of
their
own
departments.
H
A
A
J
A
I
think
the
point
I
think
the
point
is
this,
though
Peggy
we're
going
to
provide
it
to
them
on
a
micro
basis
by
looking
at
eight
or
nine
departments,
dropping
these
columns
of
numbers
in
they
roll
up
to
roughly
17
million
dollars.
A
big
number
I
think
from
their
vantage
going
into
that
discussion
of
looking
at
nine
departments.
What
are
the
components
that,
in
the
macro
sense
roll
up
to
17
million
dollars,
it's
hard
to
make
an
informed
judgment
by
looking
at
IT
and
seeing
something
that
says
purchase
services
for
X
number
of
dollars?
H
A
A
F
Peggy
the
reason
that
we're
all
kind
of
looking
at
this
as
a
new
methodology
as
I
look
at
mark.
Would
you
tell
him
why
the
previous
plan
that
we
had
always
seen
it
as
a
budget
and
why
we're
trying
to
move
to
this
I
mean
I,
would
think
it's
a
new
board
member
coming
in
it?
That
would
be
very
important.
J
Yes,
I'm
trying
to
I'm
trying
to
process
a
quick
short
explanation
of
that
at
the
one
waterworks
we
both
do
budgeting
and
our
ongoing
management
reporting
on
an
activity
costing
basis,
and
so
what
that
means,
in
essence
is.
Are
you
an
attorney
correct?
Okay,
then
I
have
that
I?
Have
it
explanation,
I
think
will
help
you.
We
in
essence
do
project
accounting
or
what
you
might
do
in
your
business,
accounting
by
customer
account
ie
how
much
charges
by
that
account
whatever
they,
how
much
revenue
off
of
that
account
and
you're
looking
at
it
by
customer.
J
We
do
that
on
the
expense
side,
not
necessarily
on
the
revenue
side,
but
so
we
have
about
300
projects
to
cross
the
utility,
and
that
is
both
on
a
capital
basis
which
I
think
most
businesses
expect
to
see
capital
projects,
but
we
also
have
operating
projects
and
the
example
I
use
is
in
accounting
or
finance.
We
have
several
different
projects
by
which
we
keep
track
of
our
time.
We
have
financial
services
and
we
have
several
projects
underneath
that
payroll
accounts
payable
financial
reporting.
J
There
are
several
others,
but
I'm
just
going
to
leave
it
at
that,
and
those
are
typical
activities
of
any
accounting
departments.
So,
as
both
my
people
spend
their
time
doing
payroll,
they
will
charge
their
time
to
that
project
and
any
materials.
The
checks
we
buy.
Those
types
of
things
will
also
be
associated
with
the
project
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
what
that
tells
me
is
how
much
the
utility
is
spending
on
payroll.
How
much
is
the
utility
spending
on
Finn
reporting?
J
How
much
is
the
utility
spending
on
other
types
of
services
and
across
each
department?
Each
director
decides
basically
on
how
they
want
to
look
at
those
operating
costs
by
project.
That
is
a
lot
of
details.
So,
as
I
said,
we
have
about
300
projects.
We
have
multiple
line
items
under
each
one
of
those
and
I
think
what
we've
found
is
that
it's
a
lot
of
detail
which
is
great
for
us,
but
it
is
hard
to
kind
of
bills.
J
This
is
a
snapshot.
It
is
obviously
not
the
full
utility
but
and
the
reason
we
didn't
do,
the
full
utility
is.
We
were
doing
it
as
a
kind
of
a
test
basis
to
present
to
the
board
to
get
some
input,
but
without
spending
taking
up
eight
hours
of
their
time
is
they
didn't
like
it?
So
I
did
a
short
presentation
of
Finance
and
audit
for
just
these
three
departments,
because
they
are
smaller
departments
from
that
standpoint,
showing
the
expenses
and
the
labor
and
went
into
a
little
bit
of
detail.
J
So
this
is
what
we
would
propose,
as
I
indicated
at
the
beginning.
We
have
eight
departments.
So
if
we
did
this
on
a
full
utility
basis,
we'd
have
eight
departments
across
and
a
total
column
and
then
provide
additional
detail.
When
I
did
a
presentation
at
finance
and
audit
I
went
into
a
little
bit
of
detail,
for
instance,
for
finance.
What
makes
up
that
the
nine
hundred
thousand
dollars,
which
is
corporate
insurance?
That's
an
easy
one,
but
then
each
of
those
other
line
items
inventory
materials
and
services.
A
Unfortunately,
you
get
away
from
capital
and
get
you
get
into
om
budgets
in
the
utility
world.
The
accounting
is
complex
because
it's
all
based
upon
our
view,
that
we're
trying
to
prove
our
cost
of
service,
which
is
not
very
intuitive
to
outsiders,
we,
that
is
all
of
us,
think
of
departments
and
functionality,
look
around
the
room
and
you
see
distribution
and
you
see
production
and
you
see
customer
service,
and
that
intuitively
is
a
lot
easier
to
understand
than
this
across
the
organisation.
A
A
Even
to
those
of
us
who
are
trying
to
get
to
the
inside
game,
so
that
really
has
driven
us
to
a
way
to
look
at
this
by
department
on
the
operating
and
maintenance
side
capital,
far
more
straightforward
and
far
more
easy
to
get
your
hands
around.
That
was
more
than
50
words,
but
that
would
be
my
take
on.
F
What's
different
important
reason
we
had
been
faced
with
some
hefty
rate
increases
to
our
customers
and
trying
to
justify
that
as
board
members,
and
so,
for
instance,
when
we
looked
at
human
resources,
we
saw
a
number.
If
you
combine
all
those
work
plans
up
close
to
900
dollars.
We
said
it
can't
take
nine
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
run
our
HR
department.
Now
we're
starting
to
see
what
the
real
number
is.
So
that's
what
led
us
to
this
point?
It
was
to
go
back
to
justify
those
rate
increases.
We
felt
the
entity.
A
Peggy,
thank
you
that
was
very
thoughtful.
I
appreciate
the
extra
detail
will
flesh
out
better
what
utilities
are
which
is
going
to
be
pretty
straightforward,
purchase
services
to
provide
you
a
more
informed,
an
opportunity
to
ask
questions
later
on
and
also
you
wanted
to
break
down
between
Karl
ounces
and
sell
when
you
have
to
provide
that
matter.
But
this
is
again
a
pretty
iterative
process
so,
as
you
think
of
things
enlighted
to
be
able
to
try
and
get
our
hands
around
a
more
responsive
way
to
explore
in
a
way
that
you're
comfortable,
ultimately
voting
for.