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Description
The City Engineering Department held a virtual open house for the residents to learn more about the reconstruction project happening on McKinley Avenue.
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Hello,
everybody
we're
gonna.
We
got
a
few
minutes
here
before
we
get
started.
I'm
steve
neighbor
city
engineer.
I've
got
a
few
fellows
team
members
here
from
the
city
as
well
to
help
give
a
presentation,
overview,
mckinley
avenue
reconstruction,
so
we've
got
some
concepts.
We
haven't
started
the
formal
design
yet,
but
but
we'd
like
to
share
some
concepts
and
go
through
kind
of
a
little
background
and
and
what
we're
looking
at
here.
So
we'll
wait
a
few
minutes
here.
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A
C
A
No,
we
we,
we
have
a
few
of
us
that
are
listed
as
hosts
and
yeah
if
they
they
need
to
be
admitted,
but
that
yeah
they're
all
just
coming
in
a
lot
of
times.
We
just
get
people
join
right
at
six,
so
we'll
we'll
pause
for
for
a
little
bit.
I'm
I'm,
like
I
said,
I'm
seeing
tammy
scott
paul
minks
mike
armstrong,
marzia,
tiffany,
irving,
councilmember,
voss,
lauren
dave.
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A
B
A
And
I
I
will
would
like
to
point
out
this
meeting
is,
is
being
recorded,
that's
that's
kind
of
the
standard
setup
for
our
city,
public
meetings
via
zoom,
and
that
does
give
us
an
advantage
that
we
can
post
the
recording
on
our
website
too.
So
if
there
are
folks
who
who
can't
make
it
tonight
for
some
reason
that
they'll
they
can
watch
the
presentation
anytime
it'll
take
us
a
little
time
to
to
download
it
and
get
it
up
on
the
website.
A
B
E
A
A
B
A
A
A
A
Engineer
also,
a
note
looks
like
I
see
some
of
our
council
members.
I
see
council
member
carl
voss
on
the
phone
as
well
and
and
we'll
see,
I
think,
councilmember
matt
gatto
is,
I
know,
he's
been
involved
with
the
project
and
and
we'll
see
he
may
be
joining
us
here
too
soon.
We
also
have
tom
block
deputy
city
engineer
as
well.
A
So
a
number
of
folks
from
the
city
to
here
as
well
tonight
and-
and
I
want
to
thank
everyone
for
for
joining
us
this
evening-
we
we
would-
we
would
much
rather
be
in
person
we.
We
are
obviously
like
everyone
hoping
this.
This
pandemic,
we're
in
is
is
is
hopefully
coming
to
an
end
soon,
and-
and
so
so,
but
I
appreciate
everyone
joining
us
on
zoom
it
does.
The
meeting
is
being
recorded.
A
That's
an
a
that's
one,
positive
that
from
doing
a
virtual
meeting,
it
allows
us
to
easily
record
the
meeting,
and
that
way
we
can
post
it
on
our
website
and
folks
can
watch
it
on
on
on
youtube
and
so
we'll
hope
to
do
that
in
a
week
or
so
after
we
can
download
this,
and
but
tonight
is
to
talk
about
the
mckinley
avenue
reconstruction
project.
We
are
in
the
concept,
development
phase
planning
phase.
A
A
Here
again
I
we've
got
everyone
muted
here
and
that's
just
to
make
sure
that
there's
not
background
we're
gonna,
give
a
presentation
and
then
and
then
at
the
end,
we
are
gonna
have
a
lot
of
time
for
questions
and
comments
for
those
of
you
on
zoom.
We
ask
that
you
raise
your
hand,
and
so,
if
you
click,
hopefully
you
have
a
menu
bar
if
you're
on
a
computer.
That
looks
kind
of
like
this.
A
That's
on
the
screen
and
you
can
click
on
the
participants
tab
and
that
will
allow
you
to
to
raise
your
hand
and
then,
when
you
raise
your
hand,
we'll
work
to
get
you
help,
get
you
unmuted.
You
can
immute
yourself
once
we
unmute
you
as
well
and
then
and
then
we
could
take
questions
comments
if
you're
on
a
phone
and
I'm
not
seeing
anybody
on
on
the
cell
phone-
that's
not
in
the
zoom
yet
but
oh
no.
I
just
now
take
that
back.
A
If
you'd
like
to
raise
your
hand
to
have
a
comment
or
question
when
we
get
to
the
end
of
the
presentation,
please
raise
your
hand
by
pressing
star
nine
and
then
then,
when
we
calling
it
calling
you
you'd,
unmute
yourself
with
star
six,
so
star
nine
and
star
six
for
those
on
the
phone.
If
you're
on
the
zoom
on
the
computer,
you
please
use
the
participants
tab
and
that
will
give
you
an
option
to
raise
your
hand.
A
So
so,
looking
at
our
our
existing
roadway
cross
section
we're
we're
again
we're
focusing
on
south
union
to
we're.
Looking
at
the
section
from
south
union
and
set
to
southwest
ninth,
and
our
existing
cross
section
in
this
section
is-
is
considered
a
rural
cross-section
it.
It
does
not
really
have
much
drainage
that
that
obviously
you'll
see
is
caused
issues
the
you
know.
It's
got
just
shoulders
and
the
water
kind
of
sits
along
the
shoulders.
A
There
is
a
sidewalk
on
the
north
side.
Only
and
it
does.
We
do
have
some
steep
side
slopes
that
we'll
be
working
against
with
it
with
this
project,
and
so
you
can
see
the
existing
road
is
anywhere
from
20
to
24
feet
wide
and
so
again
no
curbs
and
gutters,
and
this
is
kind
of
a
photo
I
think
most
are
are
familiar
with
the
mckinley
avenue
this
section.
A
It
needs
to
be
fully
reconstructed,
we
could
come
in
and
and
do
and
do
a
just
a
quick
mill
and
overlay,
but
that
would
not
last
very
long
and
that-
and
we
don't
recommend
that
in
terms
of
the
longevity
of
the
road
you
know,
if
you
just
resurface
a
road
that
has
base
failure
issues,
those
issues
will
come
to
the
surface
fairly
quickly
right
after
putting
down
the
new
asphalt.
So
so
we
we
we,
our
recommendation,
is
to
do
a
full
reconstruction
of
the
street.
A
A
You
know
sidewalk
gaps
gaps
in
our
our
our
sidewalk
network
on
the
street
as
well,
and
so
that's
a
challenge.
We'd
we'd
like
to
address
with
this
with
this
project.
So
we
talked
a
little.
I
talked
a
little
bit
about
this
before,
but
you
know
we're
dealing
with
steep
side
slopes
here.
You
know,
with
with
a
lot
of
the
driveways,
are
already
steep
to
begin
with,
so
so
this
is
a
definitely
a
challenge
that
we
have
when
we
as
we
get
in
start
to
design.
A
So
this
this
efforts
been
kind
of
has
been
planned
and
in
the
works
for,
for
you
know,
for
a
handful
of
years
now,
starting
with
the
section
from
south
union
in
southeast
fifth,
that
was
done,
2008
2011
time
frame.
So
that's
shown
in
pink
on
the
screen,
then
in
2018
to
2019
the
section
from
southeast
5th
to
southeast
14th
street
was
reconstructed
so
so
the
city
started
at
essentially
is
is
now
working
our
way
west
and
the
next
segment.
A
A
A
So
just
to
look
at
that
section,
I
know
a
lot
of
you
are
probably
familiar
with
that
section,
but
the
section
between
southeast
fifth
to
southeast
14th
currently
is
a
41
foot,
roadway
width
from
curb
to
curb,
and
so
it
currently
has
it's
a
three-lane
roadway.
It
has
a
bi-directional
center
left
turn
lane
and,
like
I
said,
it's
41
feet
wide.
This
was
done
the
time
frame
between
2008
and
2019
in
different
segments.
So.
A
When
we
look
at
we,
the
city
has
moved
esm,
which
is
our
transportation
master
plan.
It
does
identify
mckinley
avenue
as
a
core
by
bike
network
facility,
and
so
the
transfer,
our
transportation
master
plan
is,
is
what
that
you
know
it
gives
us
the
vision
and
plan
for
our
existing
and
future
needs
for
for
all
modes
of
transportation.
When
we,
when
we
look
at
streets,
we
look
at
streets
through
a
complete
streets
lens,
meaning
that
streets
are
for
a
number
of
users.
A
A
We
we,
we
think
the
road
can
be
a
little
bit
narrower
and
also
that
the
the
the
center
bi-directional
left
turn
lane
is
not
needed
in
this
area,
and
so
so
let
me
get
to
a
cross-section
here.
What
we're
looking
at
here,
but
this
this
map
right
here
shown
in
green
again,
is
showing
our
project
limits
and
that's
again
southwest
ninth
to
south
union
street.
A
A
It
is
on
the
proposed
bike:
bicycle
network:
it's
not
on
a
transit
route,
not
on
a
truck
route,
but
it
is
a
primary
response
route
for
emergency
vehicles,
and
so
these
are
kind
of
things
that
we
look
at
when
we
start
to
develop
our
design
concepts.
So
speed
limit
is
30
miles
an
hour.
We
run
speed
models
and
and
and
check
that
to
make
sure
that
is
the
appropriate
speed
limit
and
the
and
the
multiple
speed
models
we
run.
Show
that
30
miles
an
hour
is
the
the
proper
speed
limit.
A
It
does
have
about
a
little
over
7
000
vehicles
a
day,
so
it
does
have
some
traffic
and
there's
not
currently
parking
on
any
either
side.
So
again,
these
are
things
that
we
look
at
when
we
do
design,
we
check
it
against
our
our
our
our
our
planning
documents
and
and
and
where
we
want
to
be
with
it
being
on
a
on
a
emergency
response
route.
A
B
A
The
center
bi-directional
left
turn
lane
is
is
is
not
needed,
and
so
because
we
want,
we
want
to
build
that
bike.
Bicycle
network,
the
the
we
would
we
would
be
recommending
buffered
bike
lanes
so
that,
but
when
I
say
buffer
bike
lanes
using
pavement
markings
there'll
be
a
three
foot
buffer
using
pavement
markings
and
a
five
foot
bike
lane
and
then
we're
trying
to
achieve.
A
We
would
like
to
have
a
grass
parkway,
also
known
as
a
parking
to
separate
the
sidewalks
and
we'd
like
to
put
sidewalks
we're
proposing
sidewalks
on
both
sides
of
the
road,
so
leave
that
cross
section
up
there
again.
You
know,
like
I
said
the
set
just
to
give
you
reference
point.
The
section
to
the
east
east
of
south
union
is
41
feet
back
to
back
with
this
proposed
cross
section.
A
We
would
like
to
achieve
that
cross
section
to
the
east
as
well,
so
with
the
new
pavement
being
41
feet
wide.
I'm
sorry,
with
the
pavement
to
the
east
being
41
feet
wide.
We
could
we
could.
We
would
be
able
to
mill
off
the
pavement
markings
and
re-stripe
it
to
to
a
similar
cross-section
to
this.
It
is
obviously
a
wider
pavement
to
the
east,
but
but
still
we
could
we
could
get
this.
A
So
looking
at
it
from
a
conceptual
height
view
from
from
an
aerial.
You
know:
here's
what
we'd
be
looking
at
here,
starting
at
southwest
9th
street.
You
can
see
the
the
sidewalks
drawn
here
in
kind
of
a
tan
tan,
color
and
then
obviously
the
turn
lane
at
southwest
ninth
would
be
maintained,
is
recommended
and
you
can
kind
of
see
with
our
steep
slopes
again.
A
That's
gonna
be
be
a
challenge
we
we
would
need
to
be
replacing
the
driveway
aprons
significantly
far
back
into
the
properties,
so
so
folks
would
get
new
driveway
aprons,
but
we'd
have
to
go
back
further
than
than
than
typical
reconstruction
projects
because
of
the
grade
challenges
here.
So
so,
there's
no
question
that
grade
challenges
are
are
are
are
a
challenge
to
say
the
least
in
on
this
project,
and
so
this
kind
of
shows
the
segment
between
southwest
ninth
and
southwest
sixth.
A
As
we
continue
going
from
between
southwest
sixth
to
southwest
third
again,
you
continue
to
see
we
have
to
replace
the
pavement
kind
of
we
have
to
do.
The
approach
rebuild
the
approaches
to
the
side
streets
such
as
southwest
six
and
southwest
fifth,
and
as
well
as
going
a
ways
back
into
into
each
of
the
driveways,
and
so
so
that
being
said,
the
the
public
right-of-way,
like
I
mentioned
was,
let
me
go
back
here.
A
It
was
sick,
is,
is
about
66
feet
wide
and
so
oops
yeah
right
away
with,
is
66
feet
wide.
So
you
can
see
that
that
puts
the
right
away
the
public
right
away
about
just
beyond
the
back
behind
the
sidewalk
that
you
see
here.
So
it
is,
it
is,
you
know,
you
figure
the
road
just
kind
of
a
reference.
The
existing
road
is
about
20
20
to
24
feet
wide.
A
A
So
again,
here's
the
eastern
s
segment
that
you
can
only
see
on
the
screen
going
between
southwest
third
and
south
union
street
again
definitely
continue
the
challenges.
The
slopes
even
are
even
steeper
in
this
section
and
again,
these
are
concepts
that
we're
definitely
have
to
work
through
with
with
each
property
and
on
those
driveway
limits
and
how
they
the
configuration
exists.
A
So
but
again,
looking
at
that
39-foot
back-to-back
roadway
generally,
the
turn
lanes
would
be
maintained
at
south
union
and
southwest
ninth
and
we'd,
be
looking
at
sidewalks
five
foot
wide
sidewalks
on
both
sides,
all
the
way
down
the
street
to
build
our
sidewalk
network
and
then,
like,
I
said,
the
buffer
bike
lane
network
as
well,
and
then
we
feel
that
that
we
would
not.
Our
proposal
would
be
to
in
the
future
near
future.
Continue
that
cross
section.
A
So,
instead
of
having
the
three-lane
cross-section
to
the
east
of
south
union,
we
would
be
re-striping
the
pavement
so
that
it
would
make
this
cross-section
con
consistent
and
provide
two
lanes
with
the
buffer
bike
lanes
to
the
east
as
well.
So
we'd
have
a
continuous
corridor
and-
and
just
these
are
just
photos
of
reconstruction
projects,
when
we
talk
about
it
again,
we're
not
talking
a
mill
in
overlay
here,
we're
talking
full
reconstruction.
A
There
there's
there's
no
sugar
coating.
This
I
mean
you
you've,
all
probably
seen.
What's
going
on
at
floor
drive,
that's
full
reconstruction,
we're
talking
digging
the
pavement
down
to
the
dirt
to
the
subgrade
and
rebuilding
an
entire
new
pavement
structure
from
the
ground
up.
We
also
be
looking
at
storms
through
installation,
so
so
utility
work
underground,
and
so
these
photos
kind
of
show
the
process
right.
A
Removing
the
pavement
then
doing
the
utility
work,
storms
through
installation,
then
it's
then
it's
building
that
rock
base
and
then
paving
a
fold
up
pavement
on
top
of
the
rock
base
and
then
doing
sidewalks
and
then
restoration.
So
it's
there's.
No
sugar
coating
this.
This
is
a
very
impactful
process
and
requiring
you
know
temporary
measures,
and
so
here's
kind
of
some
more
photos
of
what
what
to
kind
of
expect.
You
know
you
can
see
here
road
closer
through
traffic.
A
We've
got
lots
of
gravel
and
and
we'll
have
at
times
even
to
require
temporary
access,
gravel
access
to
to
get
people
to
their
driveways
during
construction.
So,
whether
that-
and
so
they
again,
it's
gonna-
have
to
be
the
contract
team
of
the
contractor
in
the
city
working
with
the
the
residents
that
live
along
the
corridor
to
to
provide
that
access,
whether
it
be
through
a
temporary,
gravel,
driveway
or
or
maybe
it's
a
side
street
parking
of
some
sorts.
A
A
You
know
so
that
we
are
not
coming
back
here
to
to
do
reconstruction
in
a
long
time,
to
say
the
least,
looking
at
our
time
frame,
we're
proposing
to
start
a
design
phase,
and
that
will
go
for
the
the
next
for
the
rest
of
the
year
and
then
construction
would
start
in
in
22
and
then
continue
through
23.
So
it's
a
two
construction
season
project.
You
probably
see
mostly
utility
work,
starting
in
2022
and
then
again
the
full
construction
carrying
all
the
way
through
2023.
A
A
I'm
not
saying
this
will
be
next
week
by
any
means,
but
likely
potentially
this
summer,
you,
you
know
if
you're
on
the
corridor
and
there's
some
impacts
such
as
we
need
to
get
an
easement
or
whatnot
you
you'll
be
likely
directly
contacted
by
brett
and
or
one
of
the
city's
real
estate
coordinators
all
right.
So
let
me
circle
back
here
and
I'll
pause
and
let's,
let's
take
some
some
time
for
questions
and
comments.
Let
me
go
to
the
screen
here.
That
has
the
instructions
again
we'd.
G
A
H
You
should
be
I'll,
hear
you
yeah.
Can
you
hear
me
yup,
oh
great,
so
yeah
jake
olive,
I'm
actually,
the
the
property
owner
of
the
commercial
property
on
the
west
corner
there
so
of
that
strip,
mall
and
the
tavern,
and
I'm
just
curious
about
during
this
construction,
which
I
fully
support.
I
think
it's
great
it's
well
needed.
H
What
will
I
need
to
tell
my
tenant
of
that
tavern
during
this
construction
phase?
Since
you
said
you
mentioned
a
closure,
would
they
have
to
close
their
business
or
would
it
still
be
open?
It's
not
like
a
high
super
high
traffic,
but
it
does
have
10
to
15
cars
in
there
at
a
time
and
it's
right
on
the
corner
there.
It's
the
ferrum
investment
properties
properties
there.
H
H
Yeah,
that's
one
question
and
then
the
second
one
is:
you
mentioned
the
steep
grades
kind
of
thinking
about
the
southeast
fifth
area
that
was
recently
redone
between
park
and
indianola.
I
know
you
did
a
lot
of
retaining
wall
work.
There
is
any
of
that
budgeted
for
this
project,
or
is
it
only
just
grading?
A
All
right,
thank
you
jake.
I
don't
know
if
dave,
camp
or
or
or
brett,
if
you
want
to
chime
in
so
we
have.
The
questions
of
jake
is
asking
about
access
to
to
the
commercial
property
at
the
southeast
corner
of
southwest,
9th
and
mckinley
and
then
also
steep
grades.
Are
we
looking
at
just
grading
or
could
it
be
retaining
walls?
I
can.
G
Yeah
yeah
I
could.
I
could
tackle
those
at
least
to
start,
so
I
think
I
think
the
fact
that
your
properties
are
on
the
western
edge
of
the
project
is
obviously
going
to
be
beneficial
compared
to
if
they
were
in
the
middle
of
the
project,
and
actually,
I
would
currently
foresee
in
and
again
we're
kind
of
at
the
front
end.
Obviously,
of
of
design.
G
It's
definitely
fair
to
point
out
that
these
projects
are
very
impactful,
but
that
said,
we
will
try
our
hardest
to
maintain
access
to
those
businesses
for
sure
throughout
the
project
one
way
or
another,
and
then,
as
far
as
retaining
walls
yeah
again
I
mean
we're
we're
kind
of
again
at
the
front
end
of
this
design
process.
So
we
do
foresee
that
there
are
going
to
be
retaining
walls
installed
as
part
of
this
project
just
because
of
the
existing
slopes.
G
You're
you're,
absolutely
right
that
that's
going
to
be,
you
know,
kind
of
a
tool
in
our
toolbox
to
use,
and
I
think,
a
lot
of
times
it
depends
on
you
know:
what's
what
is
there
that
we're
trying
to
protect
for
one
thing
say:
trees
and
obviously,
structures
and
other
things
and
a
lot
of
times
this
property
owner
preference
as
well?
Some
folks
don't
like
retaining
walls.
Others
do
so.
We
need
to
go
through
the
engineering
and
talk
with
property
owners
and
kind
of
see
what
the
best
fit
is
for
specific
properties.
E
A
C
I
I
have
a
couple,
a
two-part
question
and
we
joined
just
a
little
bit
late,
so
maybe
you've
already
covered
this
and
I
missed
it
and
if
so,
I
apologize,
but
on
that
when
you
go
to
redo
this,
you
talked
about
utility,
we're
working
with
the
utility
companies.
So
are
those
utilities
going
to
be
buried
so
we'll
have
buried
utilities
along
there,
with
no
poles
or,
and
also
are
we
going
to
be
including
fiber
in
on
that.
A
Okay,
so
so
in
terms
of
the
utility,
poles
and
yeah
there's
not
a
plan
to
to
bury
the
overhead
utilities,
we
can
only
have
mid-american
energy
move
the
utility
poles.
If
they're
in
conflict,
we
can't.
Actually,
we
cannot
require
them
to
to
bury
the
overhead
utilities
that
that
cost
is
using
the
range
just
to
kind
of
give
a
rough
estimate,
it's
usually
somewhere
between
70
and
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
per
pole.
A
If
we
were
to
bury
the
red
utilities,
so
it's
it's
say
the
least
it
would
be
a
massive
expense.
So
we
would
not
be
burying
the
overhead
utilities
they
might
have.
They
would
like
they
may
have
to
be
relocated
or
moved
shifted
in
terms
of
the
poles,
or
there
could
be
instances
where
say
a
gas
main
or
water
main
is
in
conflict
with
a
new
proposed
storm
sewer
that
may
have
to
be
relocated.
A
Lowered
raised,
moved
we're
you
again
we're
not
sure
yet
so
that
that
would
be
the
extent
of
the
utilities
in
terms
of
fiber.
The
city
is
is
as
you
as
you
may
have
seen
in.
The
news
we
are
are
excited
to
to
to
get
more
service
in
our
in
our
city,
and
so
the
fiber
would
would
not
be
installed
as
part
of
this
project.
They
typically
come,
the
private
entities
come
in
and
they
do
boring.
A
They
do
trenchless
boring,
which
still
still
is,
is
construction,
the
area
they
have
equipment,
and
so
there
is
some
restoration
needed,
but
most
of
it's
installed
in
trenchless,
I'm
not
aware
of
metronets
or
or
or
the
fiber
companies
schedules
at
this
time,
but
I
I
know
they're
definitely
excited
to
get
started
so
so
the
fiber
would
not
be
as
part
of
this
project
at
this
time.
That's
not
to
say
that
as
things
progress
in
the
design
they
they
may
try
and
coordinate
some.
A
We
may
coordinate
something,
but
to
be
honest,
when
we're
talking
about
with
the
fiber
companies,
they're
they're,
looking
at
doing
a
mass
installation
and
to
the
entire
city,
which
you
know
you're
talking
installing
you
know,
say
900
miles
of
fiber
in
like
two
or
three
years.
So
so
it's
I'm
not
quite
sure
of
their
schedule.
Yet
so,
but
it's
not
not
not
anticipated
this
time
that
it
would
be
with
this
project.
E
A
A
A
I
I
A
F
Hi,
this
is
carol
I
wanted
to
ask
and
along
the
line
of
the
biking,
I
ride
a
bike
myself
and
then
the
trail
user
and
a
road
user,
and
I
commute
sometimes
to
work
on
my
bike.
However,
I
would
be
very
concerned
about
riding
my
bike
on
mckinley
with
the
three
foot
section
and
then
the
bike,
and
I
wanted
to
see
if
there's
any
other
options
that
you
can
consider
for
the
bike,
because
I
know
that's
going
to
take
up
what
13
foot
on
each
side
of
the
road.
F
A
So
so
we
did
actually
con
to
answer
the
question.
We
did
actually
consider
that
the
the
issues
with
with
a
shared
use
separate
trail
on
a
street
like
this
is
the
number
of
driveways
you.
You
would
have
issues
with
one
the
frequency
of
the
driveways,
also
the
grades
to
for
the
to
match
the
driveways
would
be
it
would
be
a
challenge,
and
so
we
we
we
believe
this
is
the
the
preferred
and
safest
alternative.
A
I
mean
in
terms
of
you
know,
say
extremely
novice
users
say
such
as
as,
for
example,
you
know
kids
or
whatnot.
You
know
they
they,
obviously
they
can
ride
on
the
sidewalks,
but
in
terms
of
the
connectivity
of
the
network
with
the
number
of
driveways,
we
feel
that
this
is
that's
the
main
reason
for
for
recommending
this
cross
section.
The
other
matter
is
maintenance
standpoint.
A
With
with
this
design,
you
know.
Obviously
the
snow
removal
is
is
is
completed
at
the
same
time
as
the
street,
and
so
so
that's
that's
an
advantage
from
a
maintenance
standpoint.
Also,
when
you
look
to
the
east,
you
know
again,
we
we
are.
We
do
plan
to
continue
the
cross
section.
East
of
south
union,
and
now
that
section
is
already
built,
but
because
the
street
is
actually
wider
than
what
we're
proposing
here,
we
can
fit
this
cross
section
and
continue
the
network.
We
would
not
want
to
switch.
A
You
know:
go
from
a
separate
charities
path
to
back
on
street
to
to
back
the
other
way
you
know,
and
so
so
we
we
are
looking
to
provide
a
continuous
corridor.
You
know
with
with
with
this
effort,
and
so
I
don't
know
if,
if
others
any,
if
I
from
other
city
staff,
have
other
comments,
have
I
missed
anything
that,
but
that's
the
general
list
is
the
number
of
driveways,
which
is
the
factor
here
for
for
for
this
cross
section
and
continuity.
A
A
Well,
with
our
design
standards
five
foot
is,
is
the
is
the
minimum
for
a
for
a
bike
lane
on
street.
So
and
in
this
case,
we
we
are
with
our
design
standards.
We
recommend
the
three
foot
buffer
as
well
so
and
then
in
terms
of
the
sidewalks
that
the
minimum
that
we
install
is
five
feet,
because
americans
with
disabilities
act
requirements
require
that
you
need.
A
If
you
you
could
do
a
four
foot
sidewalk,
but
then
every
200
feet
you
would
need
a
five
foot
passing
zone
and
then
also
a
four
foot
sidewalk
is
not
you
know
is,
is
is
narrower
and
not
as
comfortable
for
two
people
to
walk
on.
It
also
doesn't
really
allow
you
know
when
you
talk
about
pushing
strollers
or
folks
in
wheelchairs,
passing
each
other
and
the
five
foot's
the
standard
that
we
install
all
throughout
the
city
and
and
that's
pretty
common.
D
Okay,
hi,
I'm
gonna
try
to
get
my
camera
on
too.
My
question
may
be
irrelevant
because
I
haven't
done
my
homework,
but
what
I
was
wondering
is
whether
or
not
the
stretch
is
a
bus
route.
If
it's
not,
then
the
question
is
irrelevant,
but
if
it
is,
let
me
also
lower
my
hand
while
we're
at
it.
If
it
is
a
bus
route,
what
are
the
plans
for
having
proper
bus
stops
and
by
proper
I
mean
easily
accessible
that
are
not
on
the
slow
piece
of
grass.
You
know.
A
A
E
E
A
G
G
A
J
Hey
steve,
this
is
carl
voss.
I
I
apparently
for
some
reason.
I
can't
I
don't
see
a
raise
a
hand
option,
but
but
I
I
do
have
a
question,
so
this
is
mid-may
in
june.
Could
we
have
a
public
meeting
in
an
outdoor
park
or
something
that
more
like
the
open
house
style
of
meetings
that
you've
had
previously
that
that
might
get
more
of
the
neighbors
a
chance
to
come
and
and
check
out
your
boards?
J
A
Absolutely
yeah
councilman,
you
thank
you.
Thank
you.
We
yeah,
maybe
maybe
in
june
hold
holding.
We
could
see
if
we
could
search
for
an
outdoor,
shelter
or
some
sort.
We
could
bring
boards
and
just
have
an
opportunity
for
folks
to
come
and
talk
more
in
an
open
house
format.
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you.