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A
B
All
right:
well,
it's
5
30.!
So
thank
you,
everyone
for
for
joining
us
this
evening.
B
It's
we're
here
to
talk
about
a
it's,
the
public
meeting
for
to
talk
about
fifth
avenue
and
grand
avenue
in
downtown
des
moines,
and
this
includes
a
one-way,
two-way
conversion,
as
well
as
a
number
of
other
improvements
to
improve
the
overall
street
for
for
all
our
users
of
the
street,
and
we
appreciate
everyone
joining
us
virtually
here
as
we're
still
virtually
we've
seen
some
some
benefits
for
people
able
to
join
remotely
and-
and
we
also
are
able
to
so
if
there
are
folk,
the
recording
can
be
placed
on
our
on
our
website
so
and
so
so
again,
thank
you.
B
Everyone
as
we
talk
about.
We
are
doing
this
virtual.
B
Thank
you
all
right
so
again
holding
the
meeting
virtually
that
you
know
this
is
zoom,
and
so
I
ask
that
corey
and
I
will
will
give
a
presentation
of
what
what
our
plan
is
and
the
concepts
developed
for
fifth
avenue
and
grand
avenue,
and
and
so
it
you
know,
as
we
at
the
end
of
the
presentation,
we
will
have
an
opportunity
for
folks
to
speak
comments
or
ask
questions,
and
we
ask
that
in
order
to
operate
the
meeting
orderly,
that
you
raise
your
hand
and
if
you
can
see,
hopefully
you
see
a
menu
bar
like
the
one
that's
shown
on
the
screen
there.
B
If
you
click
on
participants
that
should
give
you
the
option
to
to
raise
your
hand
if
you're
on
a
phone
and
calling
in
on
a
phone,
we
actually
you
press,
star,
nine,
to
raise
your
hand
and
to
unmute
yourself,
you
press
star.
Six
and
again,
this
meeting
is
recorded.
So
if
there
are
folks
who
that
you're
aware
of
that
are
unable
to
attend
the
meeting,
then
we
the
this,
this
meeting,
could
will
be
recorded
and
can
be
posted
on
the
city's
website.
B
So
again,
please,
like
I
said
corey
and
I
will
give
a
presentation
overview
of
the
project
and
then,
if
you
look
on
that
menu
bar
there,
when
you
click
on
participants,
we
ask
that
you
raise
your
hand
and
corey
and
I
will
will
call
on
you
and
that
way
we
give
you
the
opportunity
to
speak
and
ask
questions.
So
all
right
course.
We
go
to
the
next
slide.
B
So
again,
this
is
a
public
meeting.
We
we
like
to
hold
these
early
on
in
our
our
process.
Before
we
start
detailed
design.
That's
that
you
know
we.
We
want
to
have
a
a
concept
of
what
we
want
to
do
so
that
way,
I
can
give
you
know
our
folks
and
the
public
to
something
to
view
and
look
at,
but
we
don't
want
to
be
obviously
far
enough
along
detailed
design
with
construction,
drawings
and
figuring
out
the
grades
and
the
exact
line
work
to
the
point.
B
You
know
in
case
something
changes
based
on
the
feedback
we
received
tonight
or
or
or,
as
we
start,
the
proc
design
process.
So
again
we
we
in
the
past,
we
mostly
hold
in-person
meetings,
but
you
know
due
to
the
pandemic,
we're
holding
these
virtual
and
again.
I
think
these
have
have
shown
some
advantages
to
allow
people
to
to
join
remotely,
and
so
so
I
appreciate
you
all
with
your
patience
and
and
joining
us
in
zoom
this
evening.
This
is
the
opportunity
to
comment
and
ask
questions
about
this
project.
B
So
again
we'll
give
a
presentation,
and
then
we
ask
that
you,
if
you
have
any
comments,
questions
please
raise
your
hand
and
and
and
ask
them,
because
we
have
a
number
of
city
staff
from
our
traffic
and
transportation
department
on
with
us,
and
I
also
even
see
I
see
some
of
our
council
members,
council
members,
carl
voss
and
council
member
josh
manelbaum
joining
us
this
evening.
So
thank
you
so
we're
here.
B
Avenue
between
cherry
street
and
grand
avenue
downtown,
as
well
as
grand
avenue
between
fifth
avenue
and
second
avenue,
so
this
map
hopefully
shows
kind
of
where
we're
the
area
of
focus
here.
So
the
next
slide
there,
please
corey,
so
the
the
next
slide
you
kind
of
saw
was
a
more
zoomed
out
version
and
when
we
got
into
this,
this
project
originated
originally,
it's
it
stems
from
in
2017
the
city,
you
know
completed
a
a
a
master
plan,
a
transformational
master
plan
of
downtown
called
connect
downtown
again.
B
The
focus
of
the
city's
transformation
master
planning
efforts
is
to
make
improvements
for
our
transformation
network
that
provide
a
safe
network
for
all
users,
motorists,
pedestrians,
transit
users
and
bicyclists.
So
looking
at
all
users
here-
and
so
this
project
does
stem
from
that.
Those
planning
efforts
in
terms
of
how
do
we
improve
downtown
and
and
fifth
avenue
was
was
was-
was
prioritized
one.
It's
a
vital
connection.
It's
a
north-south
connection
right
right
in
the
middle
of
our
our
downtown,
and
also
there
was
some
development.
B
That's
that's
been
occurring
along
fifth
avenue
that
that
accelerated
the
need
for
for
these
improvements
as
well,
and
when
we
got
into
starting
the
planning
of
fifth
avenue.
We
realized
there.
There
was
a
disconnect
in
the
in
the
network,
the
city
recently
improved
cherry
street
to
add,
and
specifically
the
bicycle
network,
recently
improved
cherry
street,
making
that
a
much
more
uniform
cross
section.
B
If
you
remember,
used
cherry
street
used
to
be
kind
of
obscure
cross
section
where
it
went
from
a
three-lane
roadway
out
the
west
end,
then
it
went
out
to
a
four-lane
roadway
and
then
there
was
times
where
it
was
a
four-lane
roadway.
B
But
then
sections
of
parking
were
allowed
during
certain
times
of
the
day,
and
so,
in
my
opinion,
it
was
fairly
could
be
confusing,
and
so
the
section
was
improved
to
provide
a
uniform,
roadway
cross-section
and
then
also
gave
us
the
opportunity
to
add
bicycle
lanes
and
then
as
well.
B
And
then
the
city
is
also
moving
forward
with
improvements
to
12th
street
on
the
west
and
toward
the
western
side
of
downtown,
where
we
will
add
again
improve
that
overall
cross-section
to
improve,
make
a
more
uniform
cross-section
and
then
also
add
bike
lanes
on
that
street,
which
will
connect
down
to
the
martin
luther
king
junior
parkway
trail.
B
So
if
you
think
about
it,
you
know,
there's
there'll
be
a
bike
network
that
stems
from
12th
street,
from
martin
luther
king
junior
parkway
trail
to
cherry
street,
and
then
we
have
the
gap
from
fifth
avenue
grand,
and
then
we
have
the
on-street
bike
lanes,
buffered
bike
lanes
on
east
grand
avenue
so
again
trying
to
build,
build
that
network
and
for
for
for
bicyclists
here.
So
so,
when
we
got
into
that
planning,
we
recognized
that
gap
and
and
in
grand
avenue
itself.
B
The
stretch
between
specifically
between
third
and
fourth
has
very
very
narrow
pedestrian
facilities,
especially
on
the
north
side
of
the
street,
and
corey's
got
a
picture
of
that
right
up
there
and
very
narrow,
with
especially
with
even
with
the
parking
meters
on
there,
and
so
this
we
saw
as
an
opportunity
to
kind
of
extend
the
project
limits
and
and
and
make
this
a
complete
improvement
that
includes
grand
avenue
between
fifth
and
third
and
ultimately,
with
connect
downtown.
B
The
plan
is
to
to
convert
the
locust,
grand
avenue
and
locust
street
one
ways
to
a
two-way
way
cross-section,
and
so,
if
you,
if
you're,
if
you
call
grand
avenue,
is
already
two-way
between
third
and
third
and
second
so
this
we
felt
it
was
best
to
to
convert
the
next
couple
blocks
and
again
you
need
to
tip
away
and
tackle.
The
ultimate
plan
will
connect
downtown.
B
So
again,
this
provides
one
opportunities
for
for
complete
connectivity
there,
between
cherry
and
and
east
grand
and
and
again,
it's
also
the
goal
of
improving
the
sidewalks
in
the
area
as
well
as
use
for
transit,
and
so
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
cory
boner.
If
he's
going
to
go
in
more
into
what
those
improvements
are
better
planned.
C
Thanks
steve
again,
my
name
is
corey
bogenreef
and
I'm
a
principal
traffic
engineer
with
the
city
of
des
moines,
and
so
I'm
going
to
kind
of
walk
through
our
planning
process
for
fifth
avenue
and
for
grand
avenue
and
then
I'll
kind
of
get
into
the
details
of
each
so
we'll
start
with
fifth
avenue
and
then
we'll
move
on
to
grand.
C
So
this
slide
just
kind
of
shows
our
our
planning
process
and
how
we
determine
what
a
street
looks
like
and
the
the
city
has
a
transportation
master
plan
called
move
dsm
and
so
for
each
project.
We
kind
of
go
through
this
process,
as
outlined
in
blue
dsm,
where
you
know
you
kind
of
start
out
and
you
look
at
well.
Are
there
commercial
nodes
and
what
type
of
facility
or
routes
does
cross
this
street?
So
for
fifth
avenue?
It's
it's
on
the
bike
network,
but
it
is
not
on
a
transit
network.
C
There's
it's
not
on
a
truck
route
and
it
isn't
an
emergency
vehicle
response
route
and
so
that
kind
of
lays
the
foundation
for
how
we
lay
out
the
cross
section
of
the
street.
C
The
existing
speed
limit
is
25,
we're
not
recommending
to
make
any
changes
there
and
the
average
daily
traffic
pre-pandemic
in
2016
was
counted
at
just
under
five
thousand,
and
so
you'll
see
here.
This
cross
section
on
the
top
right
is
kind
of
existing.
C
What
fifth
avenue
looks
like
now:
this
isn't
a
exact
representation
of
fifth
avenue,
because
each
block
is
a
little
bit
different,
and
so
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
you
know,
do
the
one-way
to
two-way
conversion,
but
also
make
it
just
more
consistent
and
less
confusing.
So
you
currently
have
eight-foot
parking
on
either
side
of
the
street.
You
have
the
the
bike
lane,
which
is
the
one
way
south
and
then
the
two
10
and
a
half
foot
travel
lanes.
C
So
that's
kind
of
what
the
existing
street
looks
like
through
our
planning
efforts.
The
city
has
determined
to
make
some
changes
that
cross
section
to
to
make
it
two-way,
and
so
those
changes
would
include
removing
the
parking
on
the
the
west
side
of
the
street
and
installing
a
five-foot
bike
lane
with
a
two-foot
painted
buffer.
C
The
two
10-foot
travel
lanes
in
either
direction
again
the
the
five-foot
bike
lane
with
the
two-foot
buffer
and
then
parking
on
the
east
side
of
the
street
and
the
the
curbs
will
remain
so.
The
sidewalks
will
remain,
as
is
so,
I'm
going
to
kind
of
walk
through
the
details,
and
this
is
a
planned
view.
C
So
our
overhead
view
of
the
corridor
and
we're
going
to
start
on
the
south
end
by
cherry
street
by
the
hyvee
and
the
polk
county
courthouse
so
just
to
orient
you
north
on
this
map
is
is
to
the
right,
and
so
some
of
the
changes
that
we're
proposing
number
one
is
to
these
dark
gray.
Areas
are
sidewalk
curve,
bump
outs
and
we're
proposing
those
for
a
couple
reasons:
number
one:
they
help
to
define
the
parking
lane,
so
they
shadow
the
parking
and
really
helps
folks
to
know
that.
C
Okay,
this
is
a
parking
lane
and
not
a
drive
lane.
The
other
thing
they
do,
probably,
more
importantly,
is
they
reduce
the
the
width
or
the
length
that
somebody
has
to
to
cross
the
street.
So
it
you
know
it
adds.
You
know
about
eight
to
ten
feet
to
where
it
narrows
down
that
crossing
and
people
aren't
at
the
exposure
walking
out
the
street
for
as
far
just
a
little
safer
crossing.
C
One
other
thing
that
we're
proposing
is
to
include
the
green
paint
for
the
bike
lane,
and
this
is
something
that
was
incorporated
on
the
east
grand
project
and
we're
incorporating
it
this
summer
on
the
12th
street
project
that
steve
mentioned
earlier
and
you'll
be
seeing
that
more
throughout
the
city
of
des
moines.
C
Another
thing
that
we'll
be
doing
in
this
stretch
there's
this
median
between
or
at
court
avenue
on
on
fifth,
that
kind
of
directs
people
coming
north
on
fifth
onto
court
that
will
be
removed.
So
you
can
carry
on
straight
through
that
intersection
and
continue
on
north
as
we
move
farther
north
north
of
mulberry
street
there'll
be
about
eight
additional
parking
spaces
added
on
the
east
side.
C
I'm
gonna
move
on
further
north,
and
so
this
is
showing
fifth
avenue
between
walnut
street
and
grand
avenue
and
there's
a
little
bit
more
going
on
here.
So
I'll,
try
to
explain
just
just
generally
again
we're
adding
bump
outs,
as
mentioned
further
south,
so
there'll
be
bump
outs
at
a
few
locations,
we'll
also
be
adding
the
green
paint,
the
red
symbols,
those
are
showing
some
traffic
signal
modifications.
C
So
in
order
to
allow
traffic
to
to
move
in
all
directions,
there's
currently
not
traffic
signals
for
that,
so
we'll
be
making
some
some
changes
and
some
upgrades
to
the
traffic
signals
and
I'd
like
to
go
to
talk
about
the
walnut
street
intersection
and
the
locust
street
intersection.
You'll
see
this
picture
up
here
on
the
right
shows
fifth
avenue
looking
north
at
walnut
street
and
so
along
the
capitol
square
building.
You
kind
of
have
this
I'll
call
it
an
alley.
C
It's
kind
of
a
strange
section
where
you
know
it's
a
one-way
street
south,
but
then
you
have
this
one
block
where
it's.
It
allows
you
to
go
north,
and
it's
really,
I
think
it's
confusing
for
drivers,
and
it
also
creates
this
huge,
wide
intersection
and
actually
the
pedestrian
crossing
for
crossing
fifth
or
crossing
walnut
street
is
actually
back
over
off
the
page
to
the
right,
and
so
it
really
creates
this
uncomfortable
pedestrian
walkway
and
then
it
gets
really
confusing
for
drivers.
C
And
so
what
we're
proposing
you
can
see
down
here
is
to
kind
of
extend
that
sidewalk
out
and
raise
the
sidewalk
through
this
driveway.
And
so
what
that
will
do.
It
will
kind
of
de-emphasize
the
driving
part
of
this
alley
and
make
it
feel
more
like
a
an
actual
driveway,
instead
of
feeling
like
part
of
the
street,
and
then
that
will
emphasize
and
give
the
pedestrians
the
right
of
way
and
that
that
also
allows
us
to
pull
the
the
pedestrian
crossing
up
to
the
intersection
at
a
more
natural
location.
C
We'll
be
doing
that
same
thing
at
locust
street
to
to
really
the
benefit
of
people
walking,
as
we
move
forward
farther
north
should
note
that,
on
the
west
side
again
I
mentioned
we'd
be
removing
parking.
C
Six
parking
spaces
will
be
removed
between
walnut
street
and
locust
street,
and
then
between
locust
and
grand
eight
will
be
removed
on
the
west
side,
but
we'll
be
adding
five
back
on
the
east
side
and
also
proposing
a
new
loading
zone
near
the
lc
manor
apartments
and
that
that
will
help
with
some
of
their
curbside
activity.
C
They
also
have
a
lot
of
on-call
dart
buses
that
frequent
this
area,
so
that's
a
spot
for
for
those
either
emergency
response,
commercial
or
loading
and
unloading,
and
then
for
for
dart
that
on-call
service
to
use
that
loading
zone
at
the
lc
manor
apartments
moving
forward,
I'll
switch
gears
and
kind
of
talk
about
grand
avenue
here.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
this
is
kind
of
our
process.
C
We
use
to
determine
the
roadway
cross
section
and
grant
is
really
kind
of
an
important
artery
through
downtown.
You
know
it's
not
only
on
you
know
the
main
commercial
node
it
it's
on.
A
bike
route:
it
is
a
transit
route,
there's
approximately
140
buses
per
day
on
grand
avenue
that
data
came
from
from
dart.
C
It's
it's
a
truck
route
and
it
it's
also
a
emergency
response
route,
and
so
it's
a
very
vital
corridor
for
downtown
the
the
street
is
a
little
bit
wider.
It's
about
55
feet
wide.
C
Existing
speed
limit
is
25
and
that's
recommended
to
remain
the
same
with
an
average
daily
traffic
of
about
11
000
vehicles
and
that's
11
000
vehicles
just
going
west
since
grand
is
a
one-way
west
in
this
area,
and
so
here
on
the
top
right,
you
can
see
kind
of
what
the
existing
conditions
are
on
the
this
would
be
the
north
side,
there's
a
kind
of
a
wide
10
foot
parking
area.
You
have
three
10-foot
travel
lanes.
C
The
bike
lane
is
on
on
the
south
side
and
then
another
wide
parking
lane,
and
so
what
we're
proposing
is
kind
of
the
typical
cross
section.
We,
the
parking,
would
remain
on
the
north
we'd,
be
adding
a
five
foot
bike
lane
with
a
three
foot
painted
buffer.
C
So
today
we're
proposing
to
have
a
10
foot
travel
lane
and
then
the
middle
lane
would
be
an
11
foot,
travel
lane
and
that's
a
little
wider,
because
in
the
future,
when
grand,
eventually,
as
steve
mentioned,
the
long-term
goal
is
for
the
entire
stretch
of
grant
to
be
two-way,
and
that
would
happen
at
the
same
time
that
locus
street
would
be
converted
to
2a
and
so
that
middle
lane
would
be
at
that
time.
C
Converted
to
to
house
the
left
turn
lanes
for
both
directions,
and
so
this
configuration
allows
us
to
have
that
set
up
for
the
future.
C
So
it's
just
a
matter
of
of
restriping
this
lane
as
a
two-way
left,
turn
lane,
and
then
we
don't
have
to
jostle
around
the
bike
lanes
or
the
parking
lanes
and
then,
as
we
continue,
the
south
side
of
the
street
again
we'd
have
that
five
foot
bike
lane
with
a
three
foot
buffer
and
again
the
curbs-
will
remain
in
the
same
location
except
for
the
stretch
between
third
and
fourth,
which
I'll
talk
about
here
in
a
second,
so
I'll,
just
walk
through
again
just
to
orient
you
we'll
start
here
on
the
west.
C
North
is
relatively
up
on
the
page.
So
this
is
a
an
overview
of
the
of
the
project.
C
Again,
we're
adding
bump
outs
at
the
intersections,
as
well
as
the
green
paint
to
increase
the
visibility
of
the
pipelines
will
also
be
for
for
those
bicyclists
at
third
there's,
currently
a
what
we
call
a
bike
scramble
phase
and
it's
kind
of
a
little
a
push
button
that
you
would
push
and
that
allows
the
the
cyclist
to
go
from
the
north
side
of
the
street
to
the
south
side,
where
the
bike
lane
moves
well
we're
proposing
to
move
that
to
fifth
avenue
for
a
couple
of
reasons,
number
one
there's
just
less
traffic
on
fifth
avenue,
and
so
it's
a
little
more
comfortable
to
make
that
movement,
and
then
it
also
makes
a
lot
more
sense
to
have
it
here,
where
you
have
the
north-south
bike
lane
on
fifth
avenue,
it's
just
a
more
natural
location
to
make
that
crossing
for
those
folks
continuing
on
west
with
the
bike
lane
again,
the
parking
will
remain
between
fifth
and
fourth,
we
won't
be
making
any
changes
there,
there'll
be
some
modifications
to
the
traffic
signals.
C
The
stretch
between
fourth
and
third
as
steve
had
mentioned,
the
the
sidewalk
on
the
north
side
is
is
very
narrow
and
it's
really
uncomfortable
to
walk.
You
only
have
about
six
feet
from
the
building
face
to
the
existing
curb,
and
that
includes
the
parking
meters.
So
what
we're
proposing
is
to
remove
those
those
nine
spaces
on
the
north
side
and
on
the
next
slide
I'll
kind
of
talk
about
where
those
will
be
be
kind
of
reallocated
we'll
also
be
removing
seven
parking
spaces
on
the
south
side.
C
One
other
thing
I
should
mention
is:
we've
been
working
with
dart
and
we're
proposing
to
make
some
improvements
to
the
bus
stops,
and
so
you'll
see
here
at
4th
street
we're
proposing
this
bus
island,
where
the
bike
lane
kind
of
comes
back
behind
the
bike
lane
and
we've
we've
actually
installed
a
few
of
these
recently
up
on
university
avenue.
C
This
picture
down
here
in
the
bottom
right
is
at
university
and
27th
street
near
drake,
and
so
there's
a
couple
stops
like
that
up
there
and
the
the
reason
why
we
are
proposing
these
stops.
This
way
and
bringing
the
bike
lane
behind
is
a
there's
a
couple
of
reasons
number
one,
as
I
mentioned,
there's
about
140
buses
per
day
on
this
stretch.
C
So
that's
that's
a
lot
of
buses
and
anybody
riding
a
bike
with
the
bus
going
through
this
pulling
the
bike
lane
back
behind
the
stop
kind
of
eliminates
that
conflict
between
the
bus
and
the
bike,
and
so
it
allows
the
bicyclist
to
continue
on
through
and
go
have
a
that
dedicated
bike
lane.
The
bus
then
can
just
stop
in
its
lane,
and
people
can
get
on
and
off
right
there
at
the
stop.
You
know
you
can
kind
of
see
it
here.
You
know
it's.
C
It's
really
easy
to
get
on
and
off.
It
increases
the
the
efficiency
of
getting
on
and
off
the
bus,
and
it
it
kind
of
eliminates
the
bus
from
having
to
either
pull
over
to
the
curb
or
and
then
having
to
merge
back
into
traffic.
It
eliminates
that
and
then
it
also
just
eliminates
the
the
bus
from
driving
into
the
bike
lane
and
so
we're
proposing
that
here
at
fourth
and
you'll,
see
on
the
next
slide.
C
We're
proposing
that
at
third
as
well
and
so
continuing
on
to
the
east
again,
the
the
two-way
conversion.
Actually,
the
stretch
between
second
and
third
is
is
already
two-way
traffic,
but
we're
proposing
the
green
paint
and
the
bus
island
in
order
to
fit
that
bus
island
we'll
be
removing
one
one
parking
space
on
the
north
side
there
between
third
and
second
again
there'll,
be
some
traffic
signal,
improvements
and
modifications
at
both
the
intersections
of
third
and
second
and
then
we'll
be
adding
some
additional.
C
Curve
bump
outs
at
second
avenue,
and
so
what
these
bump
outs
second
avenue
allow
us
to
do
is
number
one.
It
allows
us
to
dedicate
that
space
for
parking.
Second
avenue
currently
has
four
lanes.
C
You
know
going
northbound,
and
so
it's
it's
way
over
capacity
or
there's
enough
capacity
to
remove
that
outside
lane
or
that
lane
against
the
curb
and
reallocate
that
parking,
and
so
what
that
does
is
allows
us
to
kind
of
move
that
on-street
parking
in
the
area,
and
so
actually,
if
you
you
count
up
all
the
spaces
between
fifth
and
and
grand
for
this
project,
it
actually
ends
up
being
a
net
zero
for
the
on-street
parking.
C
The
other
thing
it
does
is,
if
anybody
has
ever
traveled
north
on
second
and
turned
left
onto
grand,
it's
there's
a
dual
left
turn
lane
and
when
you're
in
that
outside
lane
or
up
against
the
curb
making,
that
turn
is
really
difficult.
It's
just
a
really
abrupt,
sharp
turn,
and
so
this
allows
us
to
just
have
one
dedicated
left
turn
lane
and
it
kind
of
makes
that
that
turn
that
left
turn
from
second
on
to
grand
a
little
bit
smoother.
C
C
C
So
if
anything
comes
up
or
any
thing
needs
to
be
modified
or
questions
arise
that
that
we
can
answer
those
questions
now,
and
it
also
gives
the
transportation
safety
committee
an
opportunity
to
comment
on
the
concept
design
will
last
through
this
fall
and
we're
planning
to
bid
this
project
for
construction
in
november
and
hire
a
contractor
to
build
the
project.
And
then
the
construction
would
start
tentatively
in
the
spring
of
next
year
of
2022
and
and
go
through
the
end
of
the
year.
C
With
that,
I
just
want
to
mention,
as
as
steve
said,
this
presentation
is
being
recorded
and
after
we
have
the
recording,
we
will
be
creating
a
web
page
at
our
city
website,
dsm,
dot
city
and
so
we'll
have
the
presentation,
as
well
as
some
other
documents
and
a
recording
to
anyone
who
wants
to
come
back
and
and
look
at
the
concept
or
wants
to
re-listen
to
the
presentation
or
anyone
who
isn't
able
to
attend
today.
We'll
have
an
opportunity
to
listen
to
that,
and
so
here
again
it's
at
dsm.city.
C
This
is
the
the
url
it's
pretty
long.
So
usually,
what
I
tell
folks
is
once
you
get
to
our
web
page
if
up
here
at
the
top
there's
this
search
bar,
if
you
just
type
in
projects
and
studies
up
in
that
box.
It'll
take
you
right
to
this
page.
So
with
that,
I
will
open
it
up
to
questions
and
again,
as
steve
mentioned
at
the
beginning
of
the
proj
presentation.
B
All
right,
thank
you,
corey
and
I
see
jeff
angelo
jeff,
I'm
gonna
ask
you
to
unmute
here.
E
Yeah,
thanks
guys,
I
I'm
very
supportive
of
the
project
that
just
had
a
question
when
you
remove
that
median
by
fourth
and
court
hyvee.
What's
your
plan
there
would
that
be
a
stoplight
or
a
stop
sign?
What
would
be
your
plan
for
controlling
traffic,
then
at
that
intersection.
C
Yep
so
we'll
be
removing
that
median
and
will
actually
be
there,
there's
this
pedestrian
crossing
that
continues
on
across
fifth
and
I'm
guessing
that's
what
you're
asking
about
we're
actually
proposing
to
remove
that
crossing
there
and
the
reason
being
is
because
adding
a
traffic
signal
like
court
there's
just
it's
way
too
close
to
to
cherry
street
and
to
mulberry,
and
so
you
know
just
with
the
proximity
of
these
two
signals.
C
We
think
it's
it's
best
to
have
people
go
to
either.
You
know
if
they're
going
along
cherry
street
actually,
instead
of
just
continuing
on
north
on
an
uncontrolled
crossing,
you
could
take
a
left
here
and
then
go
on
cherry
street
to
continue
on
west
and
the
same
way
with.
If
you're
going
on
up
to
mulberry,
you
would
cross
here
at
court
and
then
you
would
have
a
dedicated
controlled
crossing
to
cross
there.
C
So
that's
kind
of
the
plan,
we're
not
only
just
removing
the
median,
but
we
would
remove
that
pedestrian
crossing
and
and
try
to
make
people
use
the
the
controlled
crossings.
B
F
Yeah,
I
think
I'm
unmuted
hi
yeah
laura
castle.
I
am
both
a
citizen
of
des
moines,
but
also
I
work
at
rdg
on
third
and
grand
avenue.
F
I
wanted
to
share,
first
of
all,
absolutely
in
support
of
the
project
overall
happy
to
see
all
of
the
good
improvements,
including
the
narrower
travel
lane,
pedestrian
and
bike
accommodation
and
the
two-way
traffic
conversion.
The
one
point
that
I
wanted
to
ask
about
here
on
the
left
side
of
the
screen
third
street
coming
south.
It
has
two
travel
lanes
that
are
right,
turn
lanes.
F
Turning
onto
grand
avenue-
and
I
know
that's
a
little
bit
outside
of
the
scope
of
this
project,
but
it
is
something
as
people
are
coming
off
of
the
interstate
of
I-235
onto
third
street
down
that
hill
they
go
quite
fast
and
that
double
traveling
creates
some
blind
spots.
Seeing
a
lot
of
near
misses
of
pedestrians
at
that
intersection,
I'm
curious
notice
that
data
on
that
intersection
shows
any
particular
injuries
and
if,
as
a
part
of
this
project,
the
city
might
consider
changing
that
to
just
a
single
turn
lane
onto
grand.
C
Yeah
thanks
laura
yeah.
We
to
answer
your
question.
We
aren't
planning
on
making
any
of
those
changes,
changing
that
from
from
a
dual
right,
based
on
just
the
the
volume
of
of
folks
making
that
movement
and
then,
with
the
the
dart,
stop
up
north
we
weren't
proposing
on
making
that
change
now.
You
know
I
think,
in
in
the
future,
as
second
avenue
and
third
street
you
know.
As
steve
mentioned,
you
know,
the
plan
for
connect
downtown
is
to
eventually
convert
grand
and
locust
to
two-way.
C
Well,
the
the
plan
also
recommends,
for
you
know
all
the
one
ways
to
to
go
from
one
way
to
two-way,
and
so
I
think
some
of
those
changes
would
happen
when
third
and
second
would
be
converted
to
2a
and
some
of
those
you
know,
issues
can
be
cleaned
up.
F
C
There
any
other
questions
I
don't
see
any
other
hands
up,
feel
free
to
ask
any
questions
and
again,
if
there's
no
questions,
you
know
we
don't
have
to
hang
out
here
till
until
the
until
6
30,
when
the
meeting
is
scheduled
to
end.
We
do
have
a
couple
first.
One
I
see
is
kent.
A
How
you
doing
I'm
kent
sovereign,
with
age-friendly
greater
des
moines
and,
of
course
the
residents
des
moines,
really
excited
about
the
mobility
improvements
and
the
state
streets
improvements
in
this
project,
bikers
pedestrians
for
all
modes
of
transportation,
one
of
the
principal
ways
our
volunteers
took
into
city
site
is
through
that
the
plan
dsm
move
dsm.
A
And
lucia
sims
hot
link,
so
I'm
wondering,
as
it's
just
a
matter
of
ease
of
communication,
if
projects
like
these,
that
kind
of
go
under
the
umbrella
of
move,
dsm
could
be
hot
linked
from
that
page
as
well.
C
Yeah.
Thank
you.
Kent.
That's
a
very
good
suggestion.
Yeah
I
will.
I
will
check
with
our
it
and
our
communications
folks
and
yeah.
I
I
I
realize.
Sometimes
you
know
the
sometimes
the
website
can
be
hard
to
to
navigate,
and
so
we
obviously
want
as
many
people
to
be
able
to
find
the
information
that
they
want
and
need
as
easily
as
possible.
So
that's
a
very
good
suggestion.
C
Kent
and
we'll
work
to
see
if
we
can
to
provide
a
link
to
some
of
those
projects
from
those
pages
that
you
suggested.
So
thank
you
again.
Kent
the
next
person
has
a
hand
up.
G
You,
as
you
know,
I'm
not
a
fan
of
scrambles,
so
the
proposed
movement
of
the
scramble
is
it
going
to
be
signed
and
painted
better
than
what
it
is
today.
C
Yes,
yeah
and
yeah
we
plan
to
have
it,
try
to
have
it
signed
better
and
then
I
think
we're
gonna
plan
to
use
some
in-pavement
detection.
So
it's
a
little
more
automated
for
cyclists
as
well.
As
you
know,
I
think
the
the
green
paint
will
help
to
just
just
make
it
more
more
visible
to
folks.
C
You
know
we
understand
that
you
know
that
it's
not
the
ideal
way
for
for
bikes
to
to
get
across,
but
until
we
can
get
grand
avenue
converted
to
two-way
traffic,
the
entire
stretch
through
you
know
it's
kind
of
our
interim
condition.
So,
but
but
yes,
we
we
hope
to
improve
that,
make
it
a
little
bit
easier
for
for
users
to
understand
and
use.
C
G
Yeah,
I
just
think
you
know
if
I
you
know,
if
I
had
wishes,
it
would
be
to
keep
the
bikes
on
the
right
side,
because
that's
where
bikes
are
expected,
that's
where
bikes
are
expected
by
cars,
that's
where
our
bikes
are
expected
to
go
as
a
bicyclist.
G
It's
not
intuitive
to
go
all
the
way
over
to
the
left
and
then
with
the
project
that's
proposed
with
at
you
know,
at
the
grand
meredith
intersection
where
you
have
to
scramble
back
across
to
the
right.
I
think
it's
just
you
know
way
too
much
scrambling,
but
I
have
a
question
on
the
bus
island
where
the
bike
goes
inside
the
bus
to
the
right
of
the
bus.
I
guess
that's
brandon
forth
so.
C
Yeah,
the
I
mean
the
bus,
the
buses,
don't
don't
turn
onto
force,
so
they
continue
on
through
it's
just
to
kind
of
eliminate
that
conflict
of.
If
a
bust
is
stopped
here,
then
the
bicyclist
can
can
continue
on
through
the
the
bike.
Lane
is
on
the
right
side.
You
know
if
there's
a
vehicle
turning
right,
even
if
this
bus
island
wasn't
here
if
it's
similar
to
like
fifth
avenue.
If
you
can
see
my
cursor
here,
you
know
there.
C
There
still
is
that
obviously
potential
for
those
right
turners,
but
you
know
I
think
it.
It
helps
not
only
with
the
getting
on
and
off
the
bus
and
makes
that
just
more
efficient
and
safer
for
those
folks,
but
it
also
you
know,
like
we
said
it
eliminates
those
bikes
from
you,
know
the
bus
pulling
into
the
bike
lane
and
and
just
keeps
those
those
two
modes
separate.
G
G
You
know
if
they're
expecting
that
or
how
that's
handled
on
university
today,
because
again,
that's
not
intuitive
to
me
as
a
bicyclist
to
go
to
the
right
of
a
bus,
because
it's
because
I
might
have
people
coming
on
and
off
the
bus
going
inside
of
a
bus
is
not
good
biking,
behavior
for
an
on-street
bicyclist,
and
you
know
that's
just
my
observation
on
that.
But
you
know
that's
that's
how
it's
going
to
be.
C
Yeah,
and-
and
I
I
mean
just
so
yes-
we
we
have
talked-
I
don't
know
if
we
specifically
talk
to
the
bus
drivers
of
you
know.
What
is
your
expectation
at
these
stops,
but
you
know
from
our
conversations
with
dart.
They
do
like
these
stops
just
for
the
simple
fact
that
they
don't
have
to
pull
pull
over
to
the
curb
they're.
C
They
a
lot
of
times
have
issues.
If
they
pull
off
out
of
traffic,
they
can't
get
back
into
traffic,
and
so
this
eliminates
them
having
to
do
that
or
you
know
if
the
bus
stop
was.
C
If
there
wasn't
this
island
and
the
bus
stop
was
back
here
against
the
you
know
where
the
sidewalk
is
and
the
bus
stop
pulled
over.
Then
the
bus
stop
is
pulling
over
into
the
bike
lane
and
you
know
we're
not
inventing
this
bus
island.
This
is
something
that
is
is
is
in
nacto.
You
know
it's
right,
we're
we're
not
the
ones.
You
know
we're
not
inventing
the
wheel
here
we're
using
some
of
the
the
best
practices
from
other
cities.
C
A
far
side
stop
yeah
we
through
this
process.
We
had
met
with
dart
on
a
couple
occasions,
and
this
is
where
they
preferred
the
bus
stop,
and
so
that's
that's
where
we
kept
it
now.
This
this
picture
down
here
at
the
bottom
is,
is
doing
what
you
described
it's
on
the
far
side
of
the
intersection,
so.
G
Okay,
well
I'll
ride
through
there
to
sort
of
see
how
it
feels,
so
I
can
understand
a
little
better.
I
thank
you
for
providing
the
real
life
example.
That's
in
use
right
now,
that's
really
great,
and
you
know
I'm
all
for
thank
you
for
the
investments
into
bike
infrastructure,
because
it's
good
for
all
of
us
that
bike
and
those
those
of
us
who
want
a
bike
and
the
commitment
is
really
commendable.
So
thank
you
for
that,
and
thank
you
for
listening
to
those
of
us
that
are
a
pain
in
the
you
know.
G
What
so?
Thank
you.
C
Yes,
thanks
carol
appreciate
all
the
comments.
Are
there
any
other
questions
or
comments.
H
Corey
this
is
carl
voss.
I
don't
have
a
raise
your
hand
feature
so
I'm
for
whatever
reason.
So,
were
you
able
to
figure
out
how
many
dart
buses
go
on
this
section
of
grand
avenue
on
a
weekday.
C
Yeah,
according
to
dart,
it's
about
140
buses.
C
H
Grand
so
if
you
look
at
basically
even.
H
H
There
are
plenty
of
people
that
have
to
wait
a
long
time
for
a
bus
to
come
by.
I'm
startled
to
hear
that
actually.
But
but
if
that's
what
they
say,
I
guess
we'll
have
to
go
with
that.
H
If
you
have
to
wait
20
minutes
on
a
bus
for
a
bus,
I
I
I
guess,
I'm
too
slow
to
figure
out
how
the
math
works
out
on
that.
Okay.
C
Yeah
and
again
we're
just
you
know:
that's
that's
the
information
that
that
darts
provided
us.
So
if
you
want
us
to
ask
some
more
questions
or
have
anything
specific
we'd
be
happy
to
reach
out
to
dart
with
those
questions,
no.
H
Carl
or
actually,
no,
you
know
josh
is
on
this
call
and
he
has
better
contacts
than
I
do
so
josh.
If,
if
you
have
a
chance
to
ask
just
a
clarification
on
the
number
of
buses
on
grand
avenue,
I'd
appreciate
knowing
thank.
C
C
Okay,
it
looks
like
alec
has
out,
davis
has
his
hand
raised.
D
Yeah,
I
think
so
I
hope
he
can
hear
me
and
I
apologize
if
I
missed
this,
I
was
signed
on
and
then
I
had
to
run
away
due
to
a
dog
that
escaped,
but
is
back
well.
I
was
just
curious:
what's
this
somewhat
related?
What's
the
reasoning
for
maintaining
the
bike
lane
on
the
left
going
west
of
this
project?
I
know
someone
was
talking
about
it
earlier
and
if
you
said
I
missed
it,
but
just
curious
what
that
was.
C
Yeah,
I
will
give
my
my
guests,
and
maybe,
if
somebody
who's
been
or
maybe
has
a
little
more
history,
any
other
city
staff
can
chime
in
when
I'm
done,
but
my
understanding
is
that
it
was
moved
to
that
to
the
south
side
to
avoid
the
conflicts
with
buses
with
all
the
bus
stops
through
the
corridor.
That's
my
understanding
of
why
it
is
on
the
south
side
now.
C
Would
you
know?
Is
that
ideally
where
we
would
want
it?
If
we,
you
know,
had
a
clean
slate?
No,
we
probably
would
do
things
differently,
but
you
know
we
we
only
have
so
much
funding
and
we
don't
have
funding
to
you
know
make
those
changes
today,
because
it
would,
it
would
require
us
to.
You
know
completely
shift
everything
from
fifth
avenue
all
the
way
west
through
downtown,
so
that
that
currently
isn't
budgeted.
You
know
again
if
we
had
a
clean
slate,
we
wouldn't
do
that.
But
that's
my
understanding.
B
Well,
that's
that's
always
been
my
understanding
as
well
is
that
it
was
moved
to
that
side,
and
I
don't
apologize
at
all
how
many
years
ago,
but
to
avoid
the
conflicts
with
the
buses.
C
C
Probably
later
this
week,
we
can
get
all
those
things
together
and
put
up
on
the
web
page
again
I'll
go
back
to
that
slide
of
where
the
web
page
is
again
just
go
to
the
dsm.city
and
type
in
projects
and
studies
in
the
blue
box
at
the
top,
and
that
should
take
you
right
to
the
the
project
page.
So
again,
thank
you
for
for
joining
us
and
if
you
have
any
questions,
please
please
reach
out.
So
have
a
good
night.