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A
So
sanda,
okay,
yes
good
evening,
everybody
I'd
like
to
call
this
meeting
to
order.
Welcome
to
the
Inglewood
City
Council
study
session,
I'm
jumping
right
into
it.
We
do
have
a
full
agenda
tonight.
Our
first
agenda
item
is
a
job
fair
update.
This
is
an
informational
item
for
council
business
service
and
economic
development.
Engagement
Manager
Suzy
Miller
from
Arapaho
Douglas
works
as
president
to
discuss
the
upcoming
Inglewood
job.
Fair
also
present
is
Darrin
Hollingsworth
good.
B
Evening,
your
honor
members
of
City
Council,
it's
my
pleasure
this
evening
to
introduce
Suzie
Miller
Douglas
works.
Arapahoe
Douglas
works
in
the
city
of
Inglewood,
struck
a
partnership
very
early
on
in
terms
of
serving
our
business
community
to
see
if
there
was
demand
for
a
job
fair
in
Inglewood
and
the
results
came
back
very
positive
in
support
of
a
job
fair
and
this
matter
was
talked
about.
It
ace
a
little
bit
and
they
deemed
the
the
idea
to
be
very
supportive
of
both
the
residents
and
the
businesses
alike
to
have
direct
benefits
to
both.
C
Thank
you
good
evening.
Well,
first
of
all,
I'd
just
like
to
say
this
has
already
been
a
really
fun
adventure,
partnering,
not
only
with
the
city
but
with
the
chamber
as
well
and
looking
at
opportunities
to
both
support
businesses
and
job
seekers
in
this
community.
So
our
first
real
task
was
identifying
whether
there
would
be
a
need
and
the
best
time
to
be
promoting
an
event.
C
And
so
we
did
a
survey
and
we
received
responses
from
over
60
businesses
in
the
Inglewood
area
and
the
vast
majority
of
those
certainly
supported
that
they
would
be
hiring
within
the
next
six
months
and
that
September
would
be
a
good
time
for
a
job
fair.
So
that's
when
we
really
started
looking
at
dates
and
opportunities,
it's
really
in
alignment
with
rapo
douglas
works
in
terms
of
September's
workforce
development
months.
C
So
this
is
an
activity
that
certainly
made
sense,
and
it
was
was
it
with
an
alignment
of
all
of
the
activities
that
we
wanted
to
do
that
month.
So
we
have
set
a
date
of
September
29th
the
morning
of
to
conduct
a
job
fair.
This
is
and
we're
really
gracious
that
we're
gonna
be
able
to
host
it
right
here
in
this
space.
C
We
think
that
at
a
minimum,
we'll
probably
be
able
to
get
at
least
30
employers
into
this
space
and
and
using
this
space
along
with
lobby
area
as
well
and
something
this
is
something
certainly
that
a
t-works
does
on
a
regular
basis.
So
we
feel
that
our
processes
are
already
kind
of
in
line
to
be
able
to
get
all
the
employers
registered
kind
of
handle
all
the
coordination
of
that
setup.
C
And
then,
of
course,
we
have
over
thirty
four
thousand
registered
job
seekers
that
will
be
would
be
interested
in
working
in
the
rapaho
Douglas
area,
so
we'll
certainly
be
using
not
only
our
resources
but
all
throughout
the
the
metro
area
to
spread
the
word
about
this
event.
Certainly,
the
goal
is
to
focus
on
Englewood
centric
businesses,
both
large
and
small,
those
primary
employers,
primary
job
creation,
employers
in
our
targeted
industries,
so
we'll
make
sure
that
we're
vetting
those
companies
to
make
sure
I
think
we
talked
about.
C
Certainly
based
on
the
responses
of
that
survey
with
au
v,
47
businesses
saying
that
they
would
absolutely
attend
a
job
fair
in
September.
We
don't
think
we
will
have
any
difficulties
recruiting
businesses
to
fill
the
space,
and
certainly
if
we
wouldn't
we'd
have
a
kind
of
a
priority
list
or
backup
list
of
additional
areas
that
could
attend
the
event,
but
we
want
to
make
this
a
high
quality
event
and
I
think
what
we've
demonstrated
this
partnership
so
far,
I
think
everything
should
run
relatively
smoothly.
C
I
think
the
support
with
the
library
being
able
to
offer
computer
space
for
jobseekers
to
fill
out
applications.
So
we've
already
talked
about
all
the
lot
of
those
planning
logistics
to
even
down
to
where
applicants
can
fill
out
applications
if
they're
filling
out
paper
applications
here
at
the
event.
So
we're
just
really
excited
to
be
able
to
partner
with
you
all
and
offer
their
service
to
the
businesses.
D
Thank
you
for
working
with
us
on
this
and
I
know.
The
chamber
is
really
excited
about
this,
since,
as
I've
heard
them
chattering
about
flat
several
months
question
for
those
who
might
not
be
able
to
come
that
day,
could
they
access
the
information
from
that
day
very
easily
or
through
some
process,
we'll.
C
D
C
Think
the
main
thing
is
this
space:
it's
any
time
that
we
search
to
hold
multiple
employer
events.
Space
is
always
at
a
premium.
So
we
look
at
this
as
a
real
opportunity.
There's
coordination.
We've
already
discussed
coordination
of
efforts
to
have
liaisons
here
to
make
copies
for
businesses
if
they
need
more
applications
made
and
some
of
those
logistics,
we've
already
worked
out
and
then
certainly
the
vetting
of
the
businesses
and
and
making
sure
that
we're
identifying
those
priority
employers
that
we
want
to
ensure
that
our
here.
E
C
Like
I
said,
we
have
over
34,000
just
registered
that
want
to
work
in
the
rapid
uglies
area,
so
we'll
be
promoting
that
out
through
all
of
our
networks.
So
not
only
through
that
statewide
database.
We
have
mechanisms
to
send
out
mass
blasts,
but
then
all
of
our
partner
workforce
centers
will
also
be
distributing
information
as
well.
B
C
Yes,
definitely
that's.
We
try
to
ensure
priority
of
service
for
veterans,
so
how
we've
kind
of
structured.
This
is.
We
imagine
that
the
first
half
hour
2
hour
will
be
dedicated
time
for
veterans
only
and
so
they'll
get
the
first
shot
at
all
of
those
businesses
which
we
get
nothing
but
positive
feedback
when
businesses
know
that
they
get
a
chance
to
look
at
veterans
first,
so
that's
always
a
really
good
partnership.
E
C
A
A
You
know
in
our
own
channels
the
website,
the
citizen
and
press
release
all
these
type
of
things,
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
our
best
to
market
this
to
our
local
residents,
because
it
sounds
like
you
did
a
pretty
good
job
on
outreach
of
local
businesses,
but
you
know
also
local
residents,
who
might
not
be
part
of
your
listener,
but
again
we're
very
excited
so
any
further
questions
or
comments
from
Council.
Thank
you
again
for
coming
this
evening.
A
H
What,
if
is
all
about,
and
what
Emer
fizz
all
about-
and
you
have
asked
us
a
number
of
occasions
to
continue
to
look
at
how
it
operates,
but
also
to
look
at
how
do
we
utilize
efz
organization
to
best
serve
the
city
as
we
continue
moving
forward?
And
so
we
have
asked
the
attorneys
to
come
today
and
speak
to
you
all
about
the
EF
organization,
but
not
only
to
speak
to
you
about
it,
but
also
what
it
would
look
like
if
we
were
to
change
the
EF
organization
or
this
eluded
the
organization
as
a
whole.
H
And
so
these
are
the
experts.
These
are
the
gentlemen
who
actually
wrote
there
who,
when
efj
was
founded,
and
so
they're
the
they're,
the
right
people
to
ask
the
questions
for
you.
As
you
all
know,
the
efj
board,
as
well
as
the
Emer
Ford,
are
all
new
people,
new
directors
on
city
staff
and
so
we're
on
a
learning
curve.
H
As
well
and
through
our
conversations
with
these
gentlemen,
as
well
as
with
each
other,
we've
decided
that
it's,
it's
really
gonna
need
your
direction
and
where
you
want
to
see,
if
any
MuRF
to
go,
but
mainly
a
really
looking
at,
'if
to
see
how
you
all
want
us
to
operate
that,
but
also,
if
you
all,
want
that
organization
to
continue
to
exist.
So
with
that
give
it
back
over
to
the.
G
G
G
It
also
formed
a
partnership
with
RTD
and
sold
to
RTD
number
I,
believe
it
was
900,
roughly
900,
that's
exact
number
of
parking
spaces
to
RTD
to
facilitate
bringing
the
light
rail
station
here.
This
was
the
first
light
rail
station
and
what's
referred
to
as
a
transit,
oriented
development
that
was
done
in
the
city
with
RTD,
and
it
was
also
as
a
result
of
that
sale
of
those
parking
units
that
help
facilitate
the
ability
to
make
the
economics
work
for
the
redevelopment.
G
Essentially,
is
it,
incidentally,
when
I
say
it
was
ground
least
they
actually
paid
the
ground
lease
up
in
advance,
so
they
don't
make
the
payments.
Every
year
there
was
a
large
payment
upfront
as
if
they
were
buying
the
property,
but
they
didn't
get
a
deed
and
they
didn't
get
title.
They
got
the
right
to
lease
it,
so
the
property
is
still
owned
by
the
city
and
at
the
end
of
the
lease
period,
we'll
come
back
to
the
city.
I
Nobody
on
behalf
of
the
city
wanted
the
city
to
take
on
that
liability,
and
so
we
looked
to
another
corporate
structure
to
facilitate
the
redevelopment
that
initially
the
demolition,
the
existing
structure,
although
environmental,
remediation
and
the
redevelopment
from
there.
So
so
we
created
a
Colorado
nonprofit
corporation
to
do
that.
I
If
you
look
at
the
organizational
documents,
this
is
basically
an
entity
created
by
the
city
when
it
goes
away.
Any
assets
come
back
to
the
city
from
we
applied
to
the
Internal
Revenue
Service,
for
recognition
of
tax-exempt
status
of
the
organization
and
if
and
later
Emer
were
recognized
as
both
tax-exempt
entities
and
as
what
in
tax
terms
is
referred
to
as
an
integral
part
of
the
city
of
Englewood,
which.
I
Tax
status
among
the
several
benefits
that
come
from
that
are
that
that
efj
has
essentially
similar
tax
status
to
the
city.
It
doesn't
have
to
file
tax
returns,
just
as
the
city
doesn't
have
to
file
returns
things
of
that
sort.
So
so
we
applied
for
and
obtained
rulings
from
the
IRS
for
both
of
these
entities.
I
I
J
J
J
J
Now
to
just
pay
it
off
outright
me,
it
would
be
within
the
control
of
the
city
to
pay
it
off
outright,
but
again
that
would
require
them
that
there
be
paid
the
prepayment
premium,
because
there's
call
protection
on
behalf
of
the
bank
when
they
negotiated
that
rate.
They
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
the
rate
was
in
effect
for
some
period
of
time.
I
mean
it,
you
know
legally,
could
it
be
done
yes,
I
mean
it
would
require.
It
would
require
some
lawyering
on
the
documentation
side
as
well.
K
Is
there
any
advantage
and
paying
it
off
early
or
not
paying
it
off
early
and
that's
one
question
and
the
other
question
is:
is
it
was
formed
to
help
protect
the
city
against
asbestos
issues
once
this
whole
thing
is
done,
you
know
we
paid
everything
off.
Is
there
any
reason
to
keep
if
going
because
of
that.
G
And
you
said:
is
there
any
impediment
to
pain,
it
offers
any
reason
to
pay
it
off?
There
was
some
discussion:
I
was
involved
with
or
asked
about
if
they
wanted
to
sell
the
building
and,
of
course,
in
order
to
sell
the
building,
you
either
have
to
pay
the
mortgage
off
or
you
have
to
get
the
lender
to
agree
to
substitute
collateral.
G
G
D
Thank
you
for
this
information.
Is
there
a
way
this
can
be
written
up
so
that
folks,
I
think
we
have
different
places
where
they've
had
history,
but
could
there
be
condensed
I
know
one
pager
for
citizens
to
know
what
this
is.
I've
heard
all
kinds
of
bizarre
things
out
when
I've
talked
to
folks
about
what
they
think
this
is
and
some
sort
of
a
slush
or
pass
through
or
whatever
and
I.
D
G
D
L
L
G
That
money
was
used
in
part
to
help,
but
in
terms
of
liability,
what
we
were
trying
to
shield,
as
Steve
mentioned,
was
the
city
from
both
environmental
problems.
Well,
they
asked
bestest
problem
and
gasoline
problem
that
was
present.
That
was
the
major
liability
that
we
were
concerned
about
at
the
time.
L
I
appreciate
that
you've
gone
over
that
previously,
when
the
question
that
they
had
asked
me
was
who,
who
were
they
protecting
it
from
I
mean
I,
get
that
we
helped
to
finance
so
that
the
development
could
go
through,
and
so
some
of
that
money
went
to
mitigate
the
additional
cost
of
that,
but
the
city
didn't
always
own
Cinderella
City
we
chose
to.
We
chose
to
go
into
this.
I
I
G
G
J
Gonna
say:
there's
the
original
funny
in
saying
that
I
think
the
documentation,
or
at
least
the
official
statement
was
gonna,
be
posted
on
a
website
called
Emma
electronic
municipal
market
access
and
if
you
basically
just
searched
for
the
city
of
Inglewood
you'd
find
in
that
official
statement,
relative
expenditures
and
I
think
that
did
set
out
some
of
the
breakdown
that
you're
thinking
about,
so
that
anybody
can
access
it.
It's
a
it's
an
open
public
site
with
respect
to
any
municipal
securities
issuances,
so
that
would
be
a
good
place
to
find
it.
L
J
Probably
more
than
$90,
but
but
the
other
thing
I
was
just
gonna.
Mention
is
at
that
point
in
time
the
market
wanted
a
mortgage
on
a
fee
interest.
Since
that
time
we've
evolved
structures.
Where
there's
your
about
lease
leaseback,
you
don't
maybe
see
the
use
of
building
authorities
are
building
Corpse
quite
as
much,
but
it
was
prevalent
in
the
90s
and
it
was
required
by
the
bond
insurers
and
I
believe
that
first
financing
was
insured
by
a
bomb
insurer
I
only.
L
J
L
G
L
F
L
I
I
J
L
J
F
H
Thank
you
for
asking
that
question
ma'am,
so
technically,
to
be
honest
with
you.
If
was
never
fully
under
investigation,
the
DA's
office
was
given
information
that
I
gave
them,
because
we
were
worried
about
things
that
everyone
was
bringing
to
us
and,
and
they
have
been
given
that
information
I
even
called
and
asked
if
they
are
under
formal
investigation,
be
prior
to
this,
and
they
said
no
Murphy
again,
the
city
and
or
Eve
is
not
under
investigation
at
this
time.
H
H
H
H
All
good
and
I
and
I
had
conversations
on
you
know
we
have
business
to
do
here.
So
if
there's
anything
that
is,
there's
anything
that
we
need
to
know.
That
is
interrupting
our
business.
Please
let
us
know-
and
they
said
please
continue
business
as
usual
as
we
have
not
found
anything
or
not
what
I
found
anything.
We
have
not
put
a
formal
investigation
to
this
task
yet.
H
So
I
did
ask
that
same
question
as
well,
ma'am
to
the
district
attorney's
office,
and
they
said
that
everything
that
they
are
looking
at
happened
prior
to
what
we're
doing
now.
It
happened
at
the
onset
to
efj
and
we're
really
looking
at
the
whole
organization
as
a
whole
and
that
any
business
that
we're
doing
now
has
nothing
to
do
with
really
what
we're
doing
they
said.
Please
continue
business
at
this
time,
so
that
was
the
that's
the
answer.
I
can
continue
to
get
to
be
honest
since
I
gave
them
the
information
continue
to
do
business.
K
K
K
F
G
F
L
There
keeps
me
in
confusion
around
this
and
it
and
I'm
sorry,
but
no
offense
humor.
If
I
bet
it
kind
of
ended
up
sounding
like
a
little
but
a
double
talked
to
people.
So
I
just
want
to
clear
it
up
that
the
District
Attorney's
Office
is
still
reviewing
this
okay,
they
haven't
given
it
back
and
they
haven't
cleared
it
so
to
what
mayor
Jefferson
said:
they're
still
reviewing
it,
they
haven't
stopped
what
they're
doing
there,
whether
you
want
to
whatever
word
you
want
to
use
for
it,
but
they're
still
reviewing
the
information
that
you're
provided.
L
H
I
did
not
think
to
give
the
attorneys
that
represents
us,
the
information,
because
you
know
it
was
actually
asked
from
you
all
to
really
look
into
this
and
make
sure
that
everything
is
copasetic
if
I
may
and
so
I
wanted
to
move
swiftly
and
I
gave
them
the
information
and
said.
Let
us
know
if
there's
anything
criminal
but.
L
I
mean
the
attorneys
just
like
our
city
attorney.
They
would
be
the
ones
who
would
be
reviewing
contracts
and
looking
at
interest
rates
and
who
we're
doing
banking
with
and
all
of
this,
wouldn't
they
want
to
know
if
that's
the
case,
because
it
could
be
that
some
of
their
contracts
or
procedures
or
things
they
were
doing.
Oh
well,
you.
H
H
L
No,
that's
not
what
I
was
asking
I
mean
the
review
that
the
district
attorney
is
doing.
Some
of
that
review
is
over
contracts
and
procedures
and
things
that
were
done
within
the
maintenance
and
of
the
building
and
the
procedure
of
the
building,
and
that
organization
had
three
attorneys
overlooking
it,
and
so
they
might
have
wanted
to
know.
If
I
was
them,
I
I
would
have
wanted
to
know,
but
I'm,
not
them.
So.
A
Question
for
me,
you
were
talking
about
the
prepayment
penalty.
I
believe
that
he
would
be
subject
to
was
3%.
Is
that
correct,
and
so
you
know
any
real
substantial
changes
in
structure
here
and
we'd
be
subject
to
that
3%?
Is
there
a
way
to
avoid
that?
If
we
wanted
to
maintain
that
line
up
for
mortgage
or
whatever
and
transfer
it
to
the
city
or
something
you.
N
Marek
counsel,
I
think
at
this
point
in
time,
the
membership
of
the
efj
board
and
Emer
had
been
asked
by
City
Council
to
bring
forth
alternatives,
and/or
education,
about
what
to
do
with
the
two
entities,
specifically
we're
dealing
with.
If
right
now,
I
think
after
you've
now
heard
from
the
experts,
you've
created
eath
and
who
have
told
you
how
what
it
would
take
to
unwind
it.
This
councils
have
to
make
some
decisions.
Specifically.
What
you
didn't
discuss
tonight
was
the
quality
or
the
governance
of
the
eath
board.
You
know
currently,
as
mr.
N
Miller
enunciated
it's
it's
by
position
in
the
city,
three
positions.
If
you
were
to
decide
to
change
that
governance,
that
certainly
could
be
done,
but
that's
a
question
that
no
one
asked
tonight
so
I'll
throw
that
out.
Perhaps
just
for
these
gentlemen
to
answer
but
I
think
the
staff,
your
staff
right
now
who
serves
in
dual
capacity
in
their
roles
as
city
staff
and
then
serving
on
the
board,
have
a
level
of
undiscovered
with
that.
N
Because
of
questions
that
have
been
asked
because
of
accusations
of
impropriety
of
the
previous
incumbent
to
those
roles-
and
they
said
we
don't
want
to
have
this
because
they
didn't
want
the
personal
liability
I
think
the
attorneys
have
enunciated
that
they
wouldn't
have
personal
liability
for
decisions
that
are
made
because
there's
some
sort
of
policy
that
covers
them.
However,
you
as
a
council
need
to
give
eath
an
Emer,
clear
direction
as
to
where
you
want
to
see
them
to
proceed
in
the
future.
A
N
Looked
at
cam
rates
just
just
to
prepare
for
this
again
because
I'm
an
honest
board-
and
you
know
those
cameras
seem
pretty
reasonable
compared
to
what
I
used
to
manage
in
other
other
areas
of
the
country.
However,
I
can't
answer
whether
or
not
it's
completely
functional
you
know
with
respect
to
the
agreements,
I
think
something
that
you'd
have
to
hear
from
the
eSport
itself.
The.
H
And
I'm,
not
on
the
eve
borders,
either
I'm
on
the
Emer
board,
but
I
will
tell
you
that
I
know
the
Eve
board
has
taken
steps
to
go
competitive
for
the
services
that
they
have
and
they
are
doing
that
as
we
speak,
and
so
that
is
a
something
that
I
know.
You
all
asked
for
something
I've
asked
them
to
do,
and
so
they're
they're
definitely
doing
that
as
we
speak.
But
I
will
tell
you
to
reiterate
what
the
city
manager
said.
H
I
know
that
the
board
members,
the
employees
feel
uncomfortable
being
on
these
boards
mayn't,
namely
being
that
they
have
to
present
to
you
all.
We
have
to
present
to
you
all
a
number
of
different
things
during
different
topics
when
we're
presenting,
and
should
you
all
in
any
way
feel
that
we're
being
not
objective
or
partial
to
one
of
the
other
decisions
that
we're
making,
especially
when
it
comes
to
something
that
has
to
do
with
any
four
Emer.
H
D
I
appreciate
your
saying
that
I
have
not
been
one
who's
been
uncomfortable
with
the
way
it's
been
set
up,
and
particularly
since
I've
looked
at
a
couple
of
in
other
cities,
it
does
seem,
like
things
have
changed
over
time
in
terms
of
the
way
these
are
put
together.
Currently
so
I
I,
guess,
knowing
that
you
are
uncomfortable,
other
staff
are
uncomfortable.
What
could
we
do
differently
to
make
it
so
that
it's
not
run
the
way
it
is,
but
still
intact
through
our
2023
commitment?
D
G
G
G
D
That's
helpful
I
I
in
the
past
I
never
felt
like
we
were
in
a
bad
place
with
our
staff
doing
it.
It
just
came
up
more
recently
because
of
the
case
that
you
submitted
for
someone
to
take
a
look
at
outside
of
ourselves
to
have
an
objective
perspective.
I'm
not
I,
feel
really
badly.
Now
that
you
you,
you
all
don't
feel
comfortable,
but
I
mean
we
could
fire
any
one
of
you
and
say
we're
gonna
run
this
with
someone
else
doing
it,
because
we
didn't
trust
what
you
did.
H
And
I
will
share
with
you
me
I
appreciate
that
now
I
will
share
with
you
that
I
think
to
be
transparent
and
honest
with
you
I
think.
Most
of
it
is
not
the
actual
business
that's
being
conducted,
but
its
perception
of
business,
and
if
any
one
of
you
says
one
thing
about
Oh
what,
if
they're
doing
this
with
this
border,
you
know
not
feeling
that
we're
transparent
with
what
we're
doing
with
either
one
of
those
organizations.
H
You
that
may
not
even
have
to
do
with
e4e
mirth,
but
if
it's
in
someone's
mind
that
we're
running
that
organization
with
ill
intent,
all
the
other
decisions
that
we're
making
for
the
city,
we
would
think
that
that
would
that
would
have
something
to
do
with
it
as
well.
So
it's
really
a
political
and
political
and
trust
issue.
D
How
do
we
help
it
be
as
transparent
as
we
need
it
to
be
in
my
hunches?
You'll
all
be
fine,
because
we're
asking
you
to
do
this,
so
maybe
it's
on
us
to
figure
out.
How
do
we
make
sure
we're
getting
all
the
information
things
are
posted
correctly
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
so
that
they're
not
stuck
in
a
place
where
they're
in-between.
A
K
I
do
agree
that
counsel,
when
we're
out
there
in
the
community
that
if
we
don't
have
solid
facts
to
to
back
up
what
we're
saying,
especially
when
it
comes
to
issues
such
as
this,
we
shouldn't
be
saying
it
because
it's
just
it's
just
rumor
and
gossip
at
that
point
in
time.
So
that's
and
frankly,
I
don't
think
it's
in
our
worth.
A
L
That
didn't
come
to
some
discussion
from
council
until
December
January.
When
all
of
this
happened
and
once
the
books
were
asked
to
be
looked
at,
it
was
within
a
week
they
were
turned
over
to
the
district
attorney,
not
by
this
council,
but
by
the
city
manager
and
the
assistant
city
manager.
Council
has
not
seen
those
books,
those
they
were
turned
over
within
a
few
days
to
that.
So
the
concern
about
that,
whether
its
staff
or
whether
it's
another
private
entity
or
we
change
it
over,
would
be.
L
Of
course,
that
it's
a
being
touted
as
a
separate
organization
that
isn't,
under
the
same
kind
of
transparency,
rules
and
I'm
sure
that
you
gave
them
good
legal
advice
at
the
time.
But
that's
what
kind
of
created
that
lack
of
trust
and
transparency
was
that
when
questions
were
asked
by
citizens
to
find
out,
they
couldn't
so
even
if
we
changed
it.
We'd
have
to
come
to
some
determination
level
of
transparency
that
we
would
need
to
have
whether
it
was
another
board
or
staff
or
hired
or
somebody
else.
L
G
Can't
respond
to
things
in
the
abstract,
I
don't
have
in
front
of
me,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
our
advice
is
that
efj
is
subject
to
the
open
records
rule
that
we
have
produced
records
on
request
to
a
number
of
different
people,
including
litigants
concerned,
citizens,
etc.
So,
unless
I
saw
what
you're
specifically
referring
to
I
can't
really
respond
now
there
are
times
when.
G
The
statute
or
the
statute,
has
a
number
of
things
which
are
not
open
to
open
records
that
apply
to
every
city
and
every
organization.
So
I
don't
know
what
those
specific
were.
But
I
can
tell
you
that,
in
our
view,
efj
is
subject
to
the
open
records
rule
and
that
if
a
proper
request
for
records
were
made.
G
L
Something
that's
kind
of
changed,
because
I'm
pretty
good
at
doing
an
open
records
request
but-
and
we
have
my
former
city
assistant
city
manager,
including
Murphy-
might
have
been
misunderstanding
that
so
some
of
the
board
members
have
made
it
very
clear
publicly
on
the
record
that
that
they
were
not,
but
recently
that
that
changed
but
I
did
that
as
an
explanation.
That's
the
reality
of
the
situation.
That's
what
what
people
were
told!
That's!
They
were
refused
that
information.
So
that's
just
where
some
of
that
mistrust
and
lack
of
transparency
came
if.
H
A
Do
we
do
I,
don't
know
we
didn't
do
anything,
we
promised
okay,
other
comments
or
questions
from
Council
I.
Suppose
you
know
at
this
point,
I'd
like
to
take
some
direction
on,
you
know
directing
staff.
Do
we
need
some
additional
information?
Do
we
need?
You
know?
My
personal
feeling
is
that
you
know
we
do
need
an
answer
ultimately,
to
you
know
the
financing
unraveling.
If
that
would
cause
major
problems,
you
know
my
my
biggest
thing
is
transparency
and
efficiency
of
operations.
A
It
sounds
like
both
of
those
issues
are
being
addressed
and
so
I
feel
like
we're
handling
that
I
could
I
could
live
with
the
current
structure
as
long
as
we
had
additional
transparency
and
additional
efficiency
in
the
operation,
others
want
to
comment
there.
If
you
don't
mind,
maybe
we'll
do
round-robin
on
this
one.
So
we
can
try
to
move
to
the
next
item.
Is
it
thus
you
you,
gentlemen,
for
the
Murph
discussion
as
well.
G
D
A
D
We
haven't
gotten
very
specific
in
this
conversation,
so
on
knowing
exactly
what's
been
done,
because
I
do
think.
The
posting
was
a
big
deal
that
I
think
councilor
Barrentine
brought
up
nicely
months
ago,
and
the
bidding
is
the
other
thing
that
got
put
in
for
this
investigation
piece
that
people
are
praying
what
the
heck
are
they
talking
about,
we're
being
very
oblique
in
our
conversation
tonight.
Well,.
L
L
C
A
So
again,
I
guess
I'll
do
a
round-robin
at
this
point
and
ask
council
members
to
weigh
in
you
know
again.
My
preference
is
to
probably
to
stick
with
the
structure,
since
there
probably
will
be
some
at
minimum
transactional
cost
for
you
know
effectively
moving
our
financing
and
so
I
guess.
I
would
like
to
see
some
policy
language
come
forward
that
addresses
those
two
concerns.
M
I
actually
agree
with
that.
I
would
like
to
keep
it
intact.
The
way
it
is
and
but
just
to
make
sure
that
there
is
openness
and
transparency
and
as
long
as
that
happens,
I
believe
there.
You
know
and
I'm
not
saying
the
trust
issue
comes
with
the
current
staff,
but
when
Trust
is
broken,
then
it
has
to
be
rebuilt,
regardless
of
where
the
the
issue
began,
but
I
am
happy
to
leave
it
the
way
it
is
with
guaranteed
openness
and
transparency.
Thank.
A
F
D
Feel
good
about
where
it's
come
so
far
and
I
think
there's
been
a
long
history.
You
know
that
well
long,
I,
don't
know,
since
Rick
and
I
have
been
on
anyway,
I
think
where
we
were
in
meetings
where
there
wasn't
even
recordings
going
on
and
we've
slowly,
we've
gotten
up
to
a
21st,
Century,
Council
and
operating
with
a
much
better
process
for
keeping
things
and
I.
Think
we
good
this
one
got
caught:
they're,
likeif
and
Emer.
If
we
just
don't
see,
they've
just
been
out
there
on
the
side,
so
it's
good.
We
brought
this
up.
D
K
A
D
There
should
be
postings
of
meetings.
There
should
be
record
of
it.
I
want
to
do
everything
we
can
to
support
you,
so
you
feel
like
we
support
you,
okay,
so
if
there's
anything
else,
you
think
we
could
be
asking
you
to
do
that
would
make
it
open
and
transparent.
Let
us
know,
because
we
can,
we
can
put
those
into
the
public
realm
as
well.
A
K
It
when
it
comes
to
transparency,
it's
always
about
transparency.
We
are
a
public
organization
and
I'm.
Sorry
I
didn't
state
that
earlier,
but
the
way
that
they've
moved
forward
in
making
things
transparent,
they've
done
a
great
job
and
that's
well
within
the
concerns
of
the
public
and
in
the
public
interest.
So,
yes,.
I
L
L
L
It
would
actually
came
from
Eve,
not
us,
so
I'm,
not
sure
that
we're
being
respectful
to
the
concerns
that
the
staff
have
in
this
setup
of
this
organization
that
are
making
them
uncomfortable
Murphy
mentioned
it
as
well
that
they
have
to
bring
things
to
us
that
they
think
they're
playing
their
dual
role.
Now,
all
of
a
sudden
they're,
the
Director
of
Public
Works
and
now
they're
the
board
of
ef'n
they're
telling
us
what
their
decision
is
on
how
to
handle
an
asset.
That's
in
this
community,
so
they're
the
ones
who
came
to
us.
L
H
Well,
that's
a
very
hard
question
to
answer.
After
hearing
all
of
you
and
what
you
would
like
to
do,
I
will
tell
you
that
I
think
councilman
Barrentine
is
correct,
though,
that
as
we
move
forward,
I
think
that
this
is
a
big
decision,
because
I
think
as
we
move
forward
it's
easy
tonight
to
say:
let's
just
do
it
the
way
we've
always
done
it
and
let's
bring
transparency
but
I
think
as
soon
as
we
bring
to
you
all
land
deal,
and
we
said
yeah
we
wouldn't
ago
she
ate
it
this.
H
You
know
on
behalf
of
efj,
and
you
know
this
is
what
we'd
like
to
do
with
the
building
because
of
the
lappet
ated
structure
or
whatever
have
you,
and
we
did
that
as
the
'if
board.
You
are
going
to
be
you.
You
have
a
right
to
question
what
we're
doing
there
and
so
also
said
one
thing
that
we've
done
and
that
I've
heard
that
they've
always
done
is
bring
the
decisions
to
the
council
before
anything
happens.
H
In
my
mind,
why
do
we
have
that
middle?
That
middle
man
we
can
just
as
well?
This
staff
will
be
doing
it
as
staff,
even
if
you
decided
to
get
rid
of
the
the
organization
itself,
only
we
would
have
one
job
and
that
would
be
to
be
staff.
So
I
do
I,
do
stand
with
the
the
idea
and
the
conversations
that
I've
had
with
the
eath
board
I'm
gonna
today,
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
them,
but
that
they
are
uncomfortable
being
on
those
boards.
Because
of
that
dual
role,
but.
F
H
M
A
K
O
A
A
I
think
we're
good
there.
Okay,
it
is
coming
a
little
after
7:00
we're
way
past
our
schedule
here.
I
know
we
have
another
guest
from
mile
high
public
affairs
as
well
as
all
the
folks
with
guns
in
the
room.
Do
we
want
to
move
on
to
item
four
or
do
we
want
to
let's
go
ahead
and
do
that
then?
Thank
you,
gentlemen.
For
being
here
tonight.
A
P
I
bring
the
time
please
just
jump
into
it.
I
want
to
be
cognizant
and
respectful
over
hoodies
time,
so
I
think
I'm
gonna
jump
right
into
the
survey
and
give
you
a
report
and
give
you
a
chance
to
answer
some
questions.
We
have
a
presentation
that
you
can
all
review
at
your
own
time,
but
I
will
tell
you
I've
been
doing
this
for
a
very
long
time.
P
As
you
know,
from
our
presentation
of
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
my
my
ex
partner
and
I,
who
are
partnered
again
on
this
particular
project,
are
here
on
behalf
of
Frederick
polls
this
evening
we're
we
did
not
conduct
a
poll,
but
we're
here
to
report
report
the
actual
results,
incredibly
positive
results.
The
fact
that
70
percent
of
your
population
sees
the
right
track
in
terms
of
how
things
are
going
on
in
this
community
right
now
is
phenomenal.
P
It
was
only
10
percent
on
the
wrong
track
and
actually
the
poll
itself,
when
you
take
a
look
at
not
only
the
economy,
the
fact
that
property
values
are
going
up
that
there's
a
there's,
a
secondary
item
there
around
property
values,
and
that
is
property
taxes
and
one
of
the
items
that
we
were
somewhat
skeptical
in
and
turkeying
a
look
at
the
polling
results
itself
as
whether
or
not
property
taxes
would
be
a
negative
and
actually,
in
this
particular
community.
It's
not
so
much
a
negative,
actually
50%
or
greater
than
50%
I.
P
P
So
once
again,
we
did
a
300
samples.
Margin
of
error
was
5.6
percent.
We
were
to
complete
the
survey
over
a
four
night
period
of
time,
as
you
can
see,
party
affiliation
based
breakouts
are
as
follows:
on
the
on
the
bottom
of
the
slide
there,
let's
go
to
the
second
slide,
great
news.
As
I
mentioned,
the
engl
electorate
is
very
positive
and
supportive
of
the
tax
increase
ballot
issue
because
of
the
positives
city
direction,
quality
of
life,
job
performance
of
your
police
and,
frankly,
the
impact
of
growth.
P
They
really
see
growth
as
an
excellent
item
in
this
community
and
they're,
very
supportive
of
what
you've
been
doing
as
as
a
city
in
making
the
city
growth.
Only
fuel
aware
of
the
discussion
about
a
police
building.
Sixty-Three
percent
right
out
of
the
box
we're
supportive
of
a
twenty
seven
million
dollar
bond
issue
now
know
a
pole
itself
is
a
mini
mini
public
relations
or
political
campaign.
You
go
through
it.
You
ask
questions
about
whether
or
not
they're
supportive
of
the
concept
in
general.
P
P
As
I
mentioned
as
right
at
the
get-go,
69%
of
your
electorate
sees
this
city
being
on
the
right
track.
At
this
point
in
time,
only
10%
I
mean
seven
to
one.
That's
a
phenomenal
phenomenal
number
Colorado
right
now
is
my
Steve
will
tell
you
was
at
about
a
60/40
clip+
to
negative
ratio.
I
can
tell
you
I.
P
Voter
mood
we
wanted
to
take
a
look
at.
You
know
how
people
take
a
look
at
your
Park
and
Rec
system,
how
they
take
a
look
at
the
Englewood
police,
as
well
as
the
overall
quality
of
life.
As
you
can
see
from
these
numbers,
eighty-eight
percent
were
positive
in
terms
of
your
park
and
rec
facilities.
Eighty
five
percent
in
terms
of
the
job
performance
of
the
police
department
and
once
again,
eighty
nine
percent
in
the
overall
quality
of
life.
As
you
can
see,
these
were
across
partisan
divisions.
P
There
weren't
any
particular
breakouts
one
way
or
another
in
terms
of
Republicans
or
Democrats.
In
a
couple
of
cases,
actually
Republicans
were
actually
more
supportive.
The
interesting
thing
about
this
particular
graph
is
the
strength
of
these
individual
supports
at
fifty
nine
percent.
Fifty
eight
percent
fifty
percent.
P
These
are
numbers
in
a
lot
of
polling
that
we've
seen
around
the
state
over
the
last
20-30
years,
where
the
high
end
they
were
the
combined
numbers,
the
fact
that
you're
at
59
percent
positive
on
your
parking,
rec
facilities,
58
percent
positive
for
the
job
the
police
department
is
doing.
These
are
phenomenally
supportive
numbers
and
I
think
give
you
a
general
sense
of
how
people
are
feeling
about
the
services
that
are
going
on
in
your
community
next
thing.
P
We
also
wanted
to
take
a
look
at
one
of
the
questions
that
the
city
wanted
to
look
at
was
the
pleat
of
the
fire
department
and
how
they
were
doing
at
this
point
time.
We
split
sampled,
this
particular
question.
We
asked
150
people
the
question
one
way
last
150
people
the
question
another
way,
and
we
answered
the
word
Denver
into
the
question
itself.
We
wanted
to
see
how
response
times
how
people
felt
about
being
protected
by
the
fire
department
and,
as
you
can
see,
62%
were
positive.
P
Just
hearing
about
the
fire
department
is
that
fire
department
63%
with
the
Denver
fire
department,
but
very
1%
and
very
50%,
very
on
the
other
one
as
well
again,
very,
very
strong
numbers,
but,
interestingly
enough
real
important
to
point
out.
This
is
verily
really
fascinating
to
both
Steve
and
I.
Usually,
these
are
flipped
numbers
for
police
and
fire.
Everybody
loves
fire
fighters,
though
the
ones
that
you
know
do
the
calendars
and
rescue
kittens
out
of
trees
and
are
there
when,
in
time
of
need.
P
P
So
we
wanted
to
take
a
look
at
growth
and
property
values
because
you
know,
as
we
all
know,
we
weren't,
where
you're
in
a
depression
or
a
recession
for
a
period
of
time
and
now
of
a
sudden
we're
seeing
a
real
upswing
in
property,
values
and
I.
Don't
know
how
people
feel
about
that
because
again,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
there's
this
flipside
to
that
album.
The
flip
side
is
with
higher
property
values.
You
also
have
higher
property
taxes.
They
see
that
you
know
their
property
values
going
up.
It's
a
generally
incredibly
strong
thing.
P
P
Voter
moved
on
taxes
again
I
referenced,
some
of
this
before
the
fact
that
taxes
are
too
high
or
about
right
in
terms
of
their
level
right
now,
33
percent
thinks
taxes
are
too
high,
54
percent,
but
taxes
are
just
about
right.
You
know.
I
really
attribute
that
to
the
fact
that
you've
been
pretty
frugal
as
a
community.
You
haven't
gone
forward
with
a
lot
of
bond
or
mill
levy
overrides
in
the
past.
They
understand
the
need
that
your
Police
Department
truly
does
need
to
be.
P
You
know,
taken
care
of
for
the
job
that
they're
doing,
and
you
know
they're
in
an
environment
right
now
that
they
want
to
take
care
of
the
items
that
you
believe
that
the
city
believes
need
to
be
taken
care
of
and
the
fact
that
you
know
you're,
seeing
almost
a
21-point
difference
in
about
right
versus
too
high.
Again
these
are
numbers
we
haven't
seen
in
a
long
long
time
again
across
the
board:
Republicans
Democrats,
unaffiliated
age
groups,
they're
all
saying
taxes
are
about
right
right
now,.
P
We
also
wanted
to
take
a
look
at
what
was
going
on
in
the
school
taxes,
and
let
me
stay
right
upfront.
This
is
not
about
any
individual
school
district.
We
didn't
ask
about
Cherry
Creek,
we
didn't
ask
about
Sheridan,
we
didn't
ask
about
Inglewood.
We
just
asked
about
if
a
bond
issue
for
schools
was
on
the
ballot,
how
would
you
vote
on
that
particular
issue?
So
you
can
see
it
right
out
of
the
box.
P
52%
support
37%
oppose
the
only
group
that
truly
does
show
strong
opposition
to
that
is
the
Republican
base
at
this
point
in
time.
But
let
me
reiterate
this
is
not
we
didn't
run
the
campaign
like
we
ran
the
campaign
for
your
your
issues,
taking
a
look
at
the
different
complexities
of
your
issues.
This
is
just
a
first
blush
approach.
P
P
We
wanted
to
find
out
how
many
people
actually
knew
about
the
police
building
issues
and,
as
you
can
see,
87%
don't
know
anything
about
it.
We
asked
the
14%
of
the
people
that
restored
it
responded
that
they
know
something
about
the
pole
itself
to
have
an
open-ended
chance
to
respond
and,
as
you
can
read
to
the
right,
there
were
various
answers,
some
quite
informed
others
that
were
kind
of
generally.
P
You
know
posed
in
dealing
with
the
fact
that
well
we're
hearing
that
there
are
leaky,
roofs,
well,
we're
hearing,
there's
overcrowding,
maybe
there's
issues
with
victims,
whatever
the
case
may
be,
those
were
the
open-ended
responses
at
the
right.
So,
even
though
that
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
support
for
the
police
and
the
desire
to
support
a
particular
issue,
you
would
have
to
actually
get
out
and
do
some
campaigning
around
this
issue
to
sell
it.
This
is
not
something
you
just
put
on
the
ballot
and
let
it
go.
P
Again,
this
is
what
we
referenced
right
at
the
beginning
of
the
pool
we
talked.
This
is
the
head-to-head
question
on
the
ballot
issue
itself
at
63%,
yes,
25%!
No,
as
you
can
see
again,
party
affiliation
is
pretty
balanced,
66
Democrats
63
for
Republicans
age
groups.
Some
of
the
interesting
things
here
is
even
the
older
voters
are
incredibly
supportive,
they're,
the
ones
that
are
most
tax
sensitive,
usually
in
communities.
They
understand
the
need
to
support
their
Police
Department,
and
this
is
the
chance
to
do
it.
P
The
first
issue,
of
course
we
wanted
to
look
at
the
leaky,
roofs
and
you
know
which
has
been
resulted
in
and
I
and
the
damage
and
loss
of
evidence
and,
as
you
can
see,
81%
combined
positive
to
somewhat
positive,
see
that
as
an
important
issue
to
be
supportive
of
this
particular
ballot
issue,
the
police
department,
you
know
having
the
issue
of
victims
and
perpetrators
being
in
the
general
vicinity
in
that
building.
77
percent
support
on
that
particular
issue.
The
fact
that
the
police
department
of
police
building
was
built
in
1972.
P
A
new
headquarters
allows
the
city
to
have
tools
such
as
more
holding
cells,
taking
care
of
that
issue
at
81%
support.
As
you
can
see,
all
of
these
issues
are
pulling
+70
and
in
our
our
discussions,
Steven
eyes
discussions.
You
know
I'm
doing
a
lot
of
this,
so
Steve
and
other
communities
around
around
Colorado.
This.
These
messages
are
the
strongest
positive
messages
I
have
seen
in
any
community
in
this
election
cycle.
Q
So
the
top
one
is
any
1%
support,
but
61%
is
definitely
and
20%.
Probably
so
that
tells
you
a
level
of
intensity.
You
don't
want
to
just
kind
of
say:
is
it
a
good
reason
to
get
a
new
police
building?
It's
it's
definitely
a
good
reason,
so
that
shows
you
that
there's
intensity
behind
the
issue.
That's
why
they're
ranked
in
that
order.
P
We
wanted
to
find
out
whether
or
not
giving
voters
in
your
community
the
chance
to
give
their
opinion
through
the
ballot
box
was
important
or
whether
or
not
it
was
important
to
proceed
doing
this
in
another
way
that
didn't
allow
for
a
tax
increase
that
didn't
require
a
public
vote
and
I
think
it's
important
to
point
out
here
that
we
have
gotten
into
an
environment
the
state
of
Colorado,
where
voters
of
what
their
voices
heard.
It's
very
very
clear.
P
We've
been
running
campaigns
all
over
the
state
of
Colorado
for
the
last
25
plus
years
asking
voters
for
their
input
on
increasing
taxes.
That's
precisely
what
we
asked
in
this
question.
Would
you
rather
have
the
ability
to
vote
on
a
twenty
seven
million
dollar
bond
issue?
Or
would
you
rather
have
the
city
proceed
with
doing
an
issue
with
knowing
tekno
tax
increase,
no
tax
increase?
We
point
that
out
and
no
public
vote
two
to
one
give
me
the
chance
to
vote
on
a
twenty
seven
million
dollar
bond
issue.
Incredibly
strong,
over-the-top
strong.
P
So
in
conclusion,
after
seeing
this
poll
taking
a
look
at
it,
digesting
it
going
back
and
forth
over
it
over
the
last
three
or
four
days,
we
highly
recommend
that
you
proceed
with
a
twenty
seven
million
dollar
bond
issue
this
year
for
to
build
a
new
police
station
in
this
community.
These
numbers
are
phenomenal.
Opportunity
is
knocking
counsel,
it
really
is,
and
it's
not
knocking,
it's
kicking
the
door
down
and
you
have
to
answer
it.
Your
voters
are
asking
for
the
chance
to
vote
on
this
issue.
The
messages
are
there:
they
support
their
Police
Department.
A
N
Absolutely
I
think
that's
definitely
part
of
what
direction
need
to
be
seeking
tonight.
Council,
but
I
think
that
certainly
can
be
done.
I
think
you
have
frame
work,
that's
already
been
done
by
Jones
Lang
LaSalle
work.
That's
been
done
by
your
public
works
department
over
the
past
several
years,
which
was
in
part
of
your
council
request
for
this
last
week.
I
think
we
have
enough
information
here
to
go
forth
and
look
at
a
design
through
a
design-build
process.
D
I
I,
don't
think
I
have
any
questions,
I'm
kind
of
stunned
it
at
all.
It's
higher
than
I
thought
it
would
be
I
mean
I
thought
it
was
going
to
be
in
the
60s,
but
to
have
that
kind
of
70s.
For
some
of
that
stuff
is
really
great,
but
I
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
all
of
those
in
the
room
who
are
being
addressed
in
this
survey,
because
you
have
made
this
community
really
believe
in
us
all,
and
it's
not
I
mean
in
this
day
and
age.
D
You
know
what's
going
on
you're
the
ones
that
are
putting
up
with
all
kinds
of
media
scrutiny
and
difficulties.
So
I
want
to
thank
you
for
coming
tonight
too,
because
I
don't
know
that
we
expected
this,
but
thank
you
for
being
here
so,
and
maybe
it
made
little
people
a
little
nervous
that
you're
here,
but
I
actually
said
to
your
guy
over
here
and
said
I'm,
getting
a
little
nervous
that
no
one's
showing
up,
because
when
we
did
this
with
fire,
the
room
was
kind
of
packed.
D
A
A
R
K
A
Okay,
so
I
think
we've
got
some
direction
to
move
forward
to
bring
this
forward
to
Council
in
our
next
meeting.
Here
we
might
want
to
make
some
room
in
our
next
study
session,
perhaps
for
what
you
come
forward
with
as
far
as
designs
and
those
type
of
things
I
really
want
to
make
sure.
We've
got
our
arms
around
what
we're
funding
here.