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A
You
moving
on
to
agenda
item
5.
This
is
consideration
of
minutes
of
previous
session
under
a
we
do
have
minutes
from
our
regular
meeting
of
July
17
2017
I'd
entertain
a
motion
on
5a
at
this
point.
Thank
you.
Is
there
a
second
second?
Thank
you
any
discussion
or
Corrections.
Seeing
none,
please
vote.
A
On
to
5b,
this
is
the
amended
minutes
from
the
regular
council
meeting
of
July
3rd
to
reflect
the
appropriate
vote,
count
that
we
had
identified
of
that
meeting,
but
did
not
quite
get
back
to
entertain
a
motion
on
5b
at
this
point.
Thank
you.
Is
there
a
second
second,
thank
you,
any
discussion
or
comments
or
edits.
Seeing
none,
please
vote.
A
F
Painting
projects,
yard
work,
beautified
our
city
beautified
our
neighborhood,
and
got
to
participate
in
this
along
with
golden
and
Arvada,
and
this
year
they're
adding
Idaho
Springs
as
an
additional
City,
and
not
only
was
this
a
great
way
for
us
to
as
a
city
to
just
beautify
our
city
and
bring
some
help
to
some
homeowners,
but
also
a
great
way
for
citizens
of
Engel
to
give
back
to
the
community
by
volunteering.
We're
expecting
this
year
that
we'll
have
150
to
200
volunteers
and
hoping
to
do
12
to
15
projects
coming
up
here
on
September
9th.
F
But
not
only
is
this
a
great
way
to
give
back
to
the
community.
It's
also
a
neighborhood
rehab
project
is
getting
some
much-deserved
national
recognition.
So
this
year,
at
the
neighborhood's
USA
annual
conference
in
Birmingham
Alabama,
the
neighborhood
rehab
project
was
awarded
with
second
place
in
neighborhood
programs
in
the
area
of
physical.
Revitalization,
so
we're
just
I'm
just
thankful
that
Englewood
participated
in
this
along
with
golden
Nevada
and
all
of
the
projects
were
funded
by
the
city
of
Englewood.
F
All
the
materials
were
funded
by
the
city
of
Englewood
and
then,
of
course,
the
churches
and
other
businesses
and
donors
contributed
to
the
whole
administration
of
the
whole
project.
It
was
fun
for
me
to
be
a
part
of
it
and
I'm
just
thankful
to
be
in
a
city
that
takes
part
in
something
like
this.
So
I
want
to
present
the
neighborhoods
USA
award
to
the
city
of
Englewood.
Thank.
F
B
A
B
A
G
A
H
Kathleen
Bailey
46
86
South
Jason
this
year,
2017
englewood
contracted
with
integral
consulting
to
do
a
risk
assessment,
but
not
the
res
read
that
was
demanded
by
the
state
back
in
2012
or
the
resurrected
in
2016
englewood
paid
integral
who
advertises
they
provide
defense
assistance
against
residuals
based
cancer
claims,
111
thousand
six
hundred
and
seventy
five
dollars
and
by
using
pro
se
adjusted
average
data
in
their
Brea's
rad,
instead
of
actual
real
time.
Acc
sludge
data
and
referring
to
the
studs
sludge
stockpiling,
as
quote
a
period
of
negotiation
integral
concludes
an
englis.
H
Historically
high
radio,
nuclide
concentration,
sludge
presented
historically
low
radiation
dose
house
health
risk
so
low.
In
fact,
that
integrals
reported
risk
values
were
lower
than
the
radiation
risks
identified
in
english,
2003
in
2007
risk
assessments,
which
is
of
course
impossible.
Unlike
any
of
the
sludge
prior
to
2007,
all
of
the
stockpiled
sludge
year,
2011
12
13,
14
and
15,
along
with
16,
were
required
to
be
hauled
off
and
disposed
of
at
the
states.
Only
hazardous
and
radioactive
approved
landfill
and
buried
under
two
feet
of
dirt.
H
But
what
got
us
here
prior
to
2009,
when
changes
occurred
in
grady
nucleoid
concentrations
in
the
sludge,
englewood
r,
an
updated
res
rad
in
2003
and
again
in
2007
to
verify
the
safety
of
the
sludge,
but
in
2009,
when
there
was
a
historic,
significant
increase
in
the
radium
levels
in
the
sludge
ingo
had
faced
over
triple
the
disposal
costs
if
they
lost
eligibility.
For
me
to
suppose
an
fil
disposal
in
Englewood
never
ran
another
res
rad
in
2010.
H
Inglewood
argued
that
the
2009
sludge
values
were
just
an
anomaly
in
the
state
granted
a
special
variance
to
dispose
of
2009
sludge
in
2011
Inglewood
had
to
ACC
2010
sludge
reports.
One
questionable
and
one
valid
English
owes
not
to
report
the
second
valid
2010
sludge
report
that
showed
that
radium
and
uranium
levels
in
the
2010
sludge
had
exceeded
2009
levels.
Unaware
of
that
second
report.
The
state
granted
another
special
variance
for
the
2010
sludge,
then
in
their
infamous
2012
request
to
dispose
letter
for
the
2011
sludge.
H
Inglewood
also
sought
approval
for
their
proposed
multiple
year
disposal
periods
five
years
at
a
time
to
replace
the
required
yearly
request
for
approval,
citing
the
old
2007
risk
assessment.
Inglewood
and
CDM
knowingly
falsely
claimed
that
Englewood
sludge
was
and
will
continue
to
be
low
level
for
many
years
to
come,
and
therefore
multiple
year
disposal
approval
was
warranted.
H
The
state
slammed
into
its
claims
in
their
2012
response,
citing
the
high
radium
levels.
The
state
not
only
denied
Inglot
approval
to
dispose
a
2011
sludge,
but
also
declared
the
2007
risk
assessment
not
valid
and
demanded.
That
Inglewood
run
an
updated
resurrect
to
demonstrate
to
the
state
that
the
millirem
per
year
for
radium
had
not
exceeded.
The
25
million
per
year.
Limit
in
Inglewood
refused
to
run
that
res
rad,
an
in
total
grotesque
disregard
for
the
health
and
safety
of
their
own
employees
or
nearby
residents
rather
than
safely
disposed.
H
Now
a
res
red
might
establish
liability
and
rather
than
run
a
res
rad
Englewood
chose
to
question
his
character,
lifestyle
and
even
the
type
of
cancer
2014
dumped
on
site
2015
dumped
on
site.
Tragically
in
2015,
another
dedicated
employee
was
diagnosed
with
cancer
and
sadly,
in
2013,
15
and
16
dedicated
Allen
water
filtration
plant
employees
died
of
their
cancer.
H
A
res
rod
was
never
run
instead
in
2016
Englewood
sent
irrelevant
sir
irrelevant
Sirsa
data
dating
back
to
2001
to
an
epidemiologist
and
gave
us
the
give
report,
and
now
in
2017
England
has
given
us
this
miraculous
111
thousand
six
hundred
and
seventy
five
dollar
Englewood
offense
report.
That
is
just
as
empty
and
inapplicable
in
applicable,
as
the
give
report
I
declared
over
a
year
ago.
Obviously,
please.
H
A
A
I
J
I
I
In
the
add,
lumber,
storage
and
I
shop
for
planning
wooden
needed
sizes,
the
Abbott
Lumber
Company
was
where
the
on
the
east
side
of
Lincoln
with
a
Swedish
rehabilitation
place
was
they
were
there
from
at
least
from
1919
to
1935,
mayor
Abbott,
oh
the
Abbott
Lumber
Company
in
1927.
Why
isn't
Ferguson
the
Lumber,
Company,
lumberyard
and
cleaning
company
took
over
from
England
lumber
and
they
built
the
odd-shaped
building.
That
goes
along
the
edge
of
the
creek
there
and
they
connected
some
of
the
other
buildings.
I
Together
they
owned
the
store
until
the
early
1950s
1947
AL
finer
returned
to
Denver
after
completing
his
military
service
in
World
War
Two
in
the
Marine
Corps,
he
decided
he
wanted
to
continue
to
be
involved
with
military
goods
as
he
had
been
during
the
war.
He
was
a
supply
sergeant
at
the
end
of
the
war.
Vast
mountains
of
military
equipment,
new
and
used
was
thrown
away.
When
my
dad
was
getting
ready
to
come
back
from
England
is
what,
as
they
dumped
jeeps
and
tanks
and
and
whole
containers
full
of
stuff
in
the
ocean.
I
I
The
fellow
who
owns
the
surplus
store
over
on
Alameda
west
of
the
river
in
an
old
town
are
betting
on
old
ones,
or
is
it
new
al
during
the
war
and
the
three
of
them
got
together
and
said
it?
We
can
repurpose
this
done.
We
can
resell
this
stuff,
that's
just
being
thrown
in
the
ocean
right
now.
So
with
500
dollars,
I'll
look
at
his
first
term
a
store
in
a
1953.
He
opened
the
store
on
Broadway
and
took
over
the
Weizmann
Ferguson
Lumber
Company,
and
he
started
filling
all
those
parts
of
the
lumber
yard.
I
A
Thank
You
mr.
Cohen,
we
see
if
council
has
any
questions
for
you
this
evening,
seeing
none.
Thank
you.
Mr.
Cohen,
for
coming
and
speaking
with
us,
I'd
like
to
move
us
on
to
agenda
item
7.
This
is
recognition
of
unscheduled
public
comment.
We
do
have
three
speakers
lined
up
this
evening.
Our
first
one
is
Cheryl
or
I'm.
Sorry,
Shin
shake
on
brand
Erland.
Is
that
correct
here
to
speak
about
off-track
betting?
A
G
K
For
22
years
that
we
have
to
relocate
because
they
sold
the
building,
it
I
understand,
there's
a
code
here
that
has
to
be
amended
to
different
sections.
So
that's
what
I'm
requesting
the
OTB
is
regulated
by
the
state.
Quite
strictly,
we
have
dense
security,
all
our
personnel
is
licensed
and
the
revenue
I
think
would
be
quite
prevalent
to
city
of
ignored,
pretty
much
what
it
got
to
say.
Thank.
A
A
K
Yeah,
we're
definitely
regulated
by
the
state.
They
check
us
once
a
month.
They
come
through.
I
have
to
have
security
and
we
never
had
any
major
problems
as
far
as
crime
or
anything
in
there.
This
is
more
of
an
older
generation
that
come
in
there.
Waves
kick
them
out
in
the
morning,
say:
go
playing
someplace
to
go.
Thank.
K
L
Just
gonna
concern
that
Doug
is
laughing
about
that.
We
should
have
given
Linda
that
Citizen
of
the
Year
award
I
would
request.
Since
I
have
had
an
opportunity
to
talk
to
you
about
this
and
I
know.
You
were
looking
for
another
location
and
Sheridan
where
licensing
is
already
established
there.
If
we
could
just
do
it
as
a
council
request
to
get
the
information
and
the
ordinance
that
needs
to
be
changed.
L
L
So
if
we
could
get
a
some
update
on
that
and
a
little
bit
more
information
on
their
licensing
itself,
I
know
that,
from
talking
to
you
I,
just
like
it
more
official
that
there
are
regions
that
can
be
licensed,
and
what's
once
this
license
was
given
to
red
and
Jerry's,
it
would
be
the
only
one
for
a
certain
area
and
that
there
would
be
no
other
competition
if
she
kept
the
license.
Active
and
so
I
would
like
to
know
that
as
well.
Thank.
A
M
Wichita
Kansas
and
these
are
shows
that
are
one
to
three
hundred
people
a
mass.
But
if
we're
doing
a
big
block
party
like
this,
my
requirements
were
at
least
two
months
promotion,
and
then
the
planning
would
be
done
before
that.
So
we're
coming
up
on
the
two
months
already
and
we're
still
trying
to
figure
out
some
things
so
as
much
as
I
would
still
commit
to
that.
If
that
happened
this
year,
I'm
gonna
give
everything
my
power
to
make
that
happen
to
make
it
the
best.
M
I
think
it'd
be
more
successful,
maybe
late
spring
early
summer,
when
we
had
a
lot
more
businesses
popping
off
in
the
area
and
we
kind
of
serve
as
a
grand
opening
again
of
nothing
would,
if
you
would
I
guess
so,
more
people
would
come
down
and
see
a
lot
of
the
new,
the
temple
on
going
in
hopefully
one
barrel
and
all
the
other
projects
that
are
going
on.
So
that's
my
two
cents.
So
thank.
A
E
You
for
coming
and
giving
some
input
I
have
a
question
so
the
last
time
we
talked
about
some
of
the
changes
and
the
renovations
on
the
3400
block.
I
was
very
concerned
that
the
businesses
have
some
input
into
that
part
of
the
process
of
picking
some
of
these
things
and
I
was
actually
scolded
that
you
all
really
just
wanted
to
get
on
with
it
and
stop
asking
all
these
questions.
So
what
would
you
think
would
be
the
best
way
to
get
input
on
those
kinds
of
things,
because
the
aesthetics
you
have
to
live
with?
Oh.
M
Yeah,
it
would
take
somebody
probably
going
door
to
door
to
the
businesses
because
even
emails,
you
know
it
was
I-
saw
it
at
the
last
minute.
So
I
didn't
get
a
chance
to
respond
when
a
lot
of
people
had
already
been
talking
about
it,
and
so
I
do
have
an
opinion
on
it.
But
I
think
the
traditional
one
is
a
little
better,
but
at
the
same
time
I
understand
why
people
would
go
modern.
So
it's
really
hard
for
me
to
decide
personally
what
would
be
better.
M
M
The
prison
well
I've
only
talked
to
a
small
percentage
to
this.
That's
the
whole
thing,
so
I
think
a
lot
of
people
might
not
even
know
about
it,
and
so,
if
we
designate
maybe
a
person
or
two
to
go
especially
to
the
people
that
this
affects
right
away,
like
the
businesses
that
these
polls
are
in
front
of
I've,
also
heard
an
option
of
using
some
of
the
lights
that
have
been
down
here
and
just
putting
those
on
regular
poles
down
there
as
well.
M
E
M
M
L
M
L
And
did
you
know
that
part
of
this
issue,
as
councilmember
Olson
brought
up,
came
as
a
result
of
a
presentation
that
was
made
by
Republic
Works
Department?
That
said
that
they
did
reach
out
and
that
there
was
no
feedback
and
I?
Guess
it
wasn't
until
after
that
meeting
that
well
I
came
and
talked
to
about.
H
M
Was
the
first
time
that
I
had
ever
heard
of
it
as
a
business
and
so
and
then
we
had
a
little
bit
of
communication,
and
so
that
was
the
first
time
I
had
heard
about
it.
So
it
might
take
someone
just
getting
someone
on
the
roll
and
that's
their
their
mission
for
the
next
week
or
so.
I
think
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
to
is
having
someone
specifically
for
that
job
and
it
wouldn't
take
too
long.
L
M
M
Was
supposed
to
be
for
a
different
issue
that
just
kind
of
got
brought
up
and
that's
what
we
ended
up
talking
about
mostly
so
we're
gonna
do
a
little
social
media
training
that
day
and
they
end
up
being
more
about
that
which
was
fine.
You
know
we
got,
we
got
a
lot
done
about
it
and
got
a
lot
of
people's
opinions.
So
that's
the
whole
goal
of
that
meeting
in
the
first
place
is
to
get
some
connections
with
the
business
as
well.
So
it
might
be
a
good
place
to
bring
these
things
up.
G
A
O
Name
is
also
resided.
Three
three
two
seats
out
thinking
treat
apartment,
706,
Englewood,
Colorado,
eight
zero
one,
one
three
you
know
I
wish
I
didn't
have
to
come
up
here
and
admonish
people
all
the
time.
I
really
hate
that
role.
I
thought
when
my
kids
were
out
on
their
own
and
raised
it
was
something
that
I
could
just
enjoy
living
the
rest
of
my
life
and
being
a
happy
person,
but
things
have
been
changed
in
my
absence.
It
seems
to
me
that
personal
problems
are
brought
here
to
the
City
Council
and
it
affects
attitude.
O
O
Although
it's
sudden
your
perk
up,
I
love,
hearing
Doug
talk
about
the
history
of
this
kind
of
the
city
and
I
think
the
reason
why
he
does
this-
and
he
does
it
very
well-
is
to
try
to
impress
some
of
you
four
of
you
to
be
exact,
who
are
sitting
here
today
and
you
know
who
you
are
because
from
day
one
I
know
from
oh
nine,
when
I
got
involved,
I
had
been
talking
about
the
very
same
thing
consistently
and
that's
about
the
spending
and
the
revenue
and
I
have
been
made.
Point
I've
made
points.
O
I've
been
called
a
liar
by
a
previous
mayor
right
from
the
podium
there
and
I
was
using
your
figures
and
I've
said
to
you
many
times
that
figures
don't
lie,
but
Liars
can
share
figure
and
yes,
that's
true,
and
they
can
draw
all
those
pretty
pictures
on
those
reports.
I
look
at
the
numbers
and
if
any
of
you
do
not
understand
common
bookkeeping,
I
can
understand
that
not
everybody
is
very
mathematically
gear,
but
you
can
always
ask
the
proper
questions
and
get
the
proper
information
and
ask
for
relying
on
employee
to
make
decision.
O
O
So
I'm
going
to
tell
you
one
thing:
you
have
an
election
coming
up
and
I'm
hoping
and
praying
that
the
people
in
angle
would
our
up
with
the
nonsense
going
on
there's
more
information
going
on
and
more
action
going
on,
and
the
City
Council
over
who's
gonna
be
mayor
and
Mayor
Pro
Tem,
and
that
was
a
fiasco
just
like
the
one
about
RVs
and
I.
Remember
a
very
elderly
man
who
made
a
very
direct
statement
about
the
RVs
when
he
said.
If
you
don't
like
the
way
we
want
angle
would
run
leave.
O
A
Questions
for
mrs.
Holtz,
seeing
none
all
thank
you
for
coming
and
speaking
this
evening
like
to
move
us
on
to
council
response
to
public
comment.
What
do
you
mean
like
to
kick
us
off?
I
do
have
a
few
comments.
Mr.
Anderson,
thank
you
for
being
here,
I'm,
so
proud
of
our
neighborhood
rehabilitation
program.
You
know
it
may
be
a
little
bit
of
a
PSA
out
there,
September
9th
plenty
of
opportunities
to
a
volunteer
here
in
the
city
of
Englewood.
Mr.
A
P
You
sign
up
to
be
a
tool
org.
You
can
sign
up
to
work
and
indicate
your
level
of
interest
in
different
skills.
If
you
have
painting
general
contracting
whatever
or
no
skills
whatsoever
just
want
to
come
out
and
help
with
general
cleanup,
you
certainly
can
do
that
and
we
certainly
do
look
forward
to
having
lots
of
people
sign
up
for
this
year.
Thank.
A
You,
sir,
mrs.
Bailey,
thank
you
for
coming
and
speaking,
unfortunately,
I'm
not
going
to
have
any
comments
in
response
to
your
comments
this
evening,
you
know
support
the
council
in
treating
this
is
sort
of
a
pre-litigation
issue.
Mr.
cone,
thank
you
for
coming
and
speaking
tonight,
love
to
hear
about
the
army
surplus
store,
I
thought
they
just
opened
those
because
this
used
army
gear
became
cool,
but
now
I'm,
realizing
that
there
there
was
an
economic
function
to
that,
you
know,
being
a
younger
guy,
I.
A
A
Mr.
besty,
thank
you
for
coming
and
giving
their
opinion
on
the
light
poles
and
the
block
party.
You
know
I
appreciate
your
involvement
and
feedback.
You
and
your
store
have
been
really
great
leaders,
I
think
on
the
South
Broadway
corridor.
So
we
appreciate
your
service
there.
You
know,
I
did
want
to
point
out.
I.
Think
that
you
know
the
goal
here
wasn't
to
go
with
a
formal
vote.
You
know,
I
think
that
the
city
was
just
trying
to
reach
out
to
get
a
bit
of
a
sample
size
to
get
some
feedback.
A
You
know
my
understanding
of
some
of
the
feedback
regarding
the
polls
was
that
we
only
heard
from
you
know,
city
staff,
so
they
thought
they
had
only
heard
from
two
people.
Both
you
know
supporting
the
modern-looking
Pope
I'm.
Sorry,
both
supporting
a
more
traditional
look
apparently
was
some
follow-up.
One
of
those
people
said.
Actually
we
prefer
a
more
contemporary
look.
A
I
you
know
happen
to
speak
with
chris
Pasillas,
and
he
suggested
that
he
had
sent
us
an
email
into
the
city
staff,
but
never
saw
a
copy
of
that,
but
suggesting
that
they
supported
the
more
modern
lights
as
well.
More
recently
seen
this
last
week,
I've
heard
from
them
that
they've
kind
of
switched
positions
that
are
looking
for
more
of
a
traditional
look.
My
understanding
is
that
I
hope
that
city
staff
might
have
a
secondary
recommendation
regarding
a
slightly
more
traditional
aesthetic.
Is
that
happening
this
evening?
A
P
If
you
recall
back
in
your
packet
council,
you
had
I'll
pass
this
around
again,
but
light
C
and
D
on
this
particular
page.
They
are,
they
can
be
dark
sky,
compliant
they're,
the
more
traditional
looking
fixture,
but
again
here
tonight,
council
will
do
whatever
you
would
like.
One
of
the
things
that's
interesting
about
this
is
that
we've
been
kind
of
beaten
and
say
move
quickly.
Staff
get
this
done,
and
we've
tried
to
do
that
and
I.
P
Think
public
works
try
to
do
the
best
job
they
could
to
get
to
establish
a
process,
and
then
we
found
the
process
of
being
unwound.
I
know
there's
some
head
shaking
going
on
by
council
people,
but
quite
frankly,
it's
it's
disconcerting
for
staff
to
try
to
keep
this
project
going
forward
when
when
we
feel
it's
kind
of
being
undermined,
but
again
we're
here
tonight
to
listen,
we'll
do
whatever
the
council
would
like,
but
we
heard
very
clearly
from
counsel
if
you
wanted
the
the
installation
done
this
year
and
we're
on
target
do
that.
P
A
A
Thank
you.
You
know
thank
you
for
that
information.
Hopefully
council.
Perhaps
a
member
choice,
or
even
now,
with
this
feedback,
we
can
start
to
come
to
some
consensus
on
this.
I
would
like
to
see
this
move
forward
again,
given
the
feedback
that
I've
received,
you
know
my
impression
again.
It's
not
a
formalized
vote
is
that
more
the
folks
on
that
block
are
looking
for.
You
know
something
that
has
more
of
a
traditional
theme
to
it,
and
so
you
know
we're
I'm
happy
to
kind
of
re-evaluate
this
and
discuss
this.
A
Something
like
this
gonna
get
a
hundred
percent
by
and
it's
kind
of
a
such
a
subjective
kind
of
thing
that
you
know
some
people
gonna
prefer
traditional
and
so
people
kind
of
prefer
more
contemporary
Elaine.
Thank
you
for
your
comments.
I
appreciate
you
being
here,
I
know:
it's
been
a
while
I
appreciated
your
comments,
particularly
regarding
spending
and
expenditures.
I
will
point
out,
I
think
we
have
made
some
progress
in
that
regard.
Of
course,
we're
not
out
of
the
woods
yet
with
so
many
capital
long-term
capital
needs.
A
You
know,
I
will
point
out
that
2016
I
believe
is
the
first
year
of
a
surplus
past
surplus
budget
in
since
I
believe
in
1990,
so
I
feel
like
we
have
made
some
progress
in
that
regard,
but
I
appreciate
your
comments
and
I
know
that
we're
not
out
of
the
woods
yet
and
need
to
be
very
conscious
of
that.
Moving
forward,
councilman
Burton.
L
As
for
the
lighting
I
apologize
to
the
businesses
on
the
3400
block,
because
I
relied
on
the
information
that
was
being
brought
forward
by
our
public
works
department
that
they
had
sufficiently
talked
to
the
businesses.
It
wasn't
until
after
that
meeting
realizing
that
the
businesses
want
to
move
forward.
L
To
that
guys
are
a
very
outspoken
group
and
have
been
very,
very
proactive
in
things
and
so
I
took
it
upon
myself
to
go
down
and
talk
to
those
businesses
to
see
if
the
information
was
accurate
at
the
last
study
session,
all
we
were
given
was
the
one
choice.
That's
all
we
discussed.
That's
all
we
were
told.
So
these
four
that
are
being
passed
around
now
were
not
even
discussed.
L
Then
it
became
very
apparent
to
me
in
an
evening
of
going
around
talking
to
the
businesses
that
businesses
who
had
chimed
in
or
maybe
not
being
represented
or
other
people
were
being
left
out
and
so
I
know
that
it
was
decided
to
go
ahead
and
discuss
it
at
that.
Tuesday
meeting,
I,
think
I.
Think
a
couple
of
days
and
a
little
bit
of
footwork
really
doesn't
hurt
to
go
ahead
and
make
sure
that
we're
solid
with
our
businesses
and
their
buy-in
for
an
expenditure
like
this
that
we're
expecting
to
last
20
or
30
years.
L
Hopefully
maybe
it'll
only
last
16,
like
the
last
one
I,
don't
know,
but
that's
the
buy-in
and
you
guys
have
been
very
vocal
and
very
active
and
I
will
not
make
that
mistake
again.
I
will
make
sure
to
back
it
up
and
see
if
I
could
get
a
little
hands-on
with
the
businesses
like
I.
Did
this
last
time.
I
know
that
you
guys
had
the
meeting
and
I
think
that
it's
reasonable
to
try
and
make
sure
that
we
are
keeping
with
the
theme
we
have
the
letter
from
Paul.
L
Also
who
was
unable
to
be
here
and
like
that?
Whether
it's
one
block
is
always
going
to
be
a
small
sample
of
things,
but
it
does
like.
You
had
informed
us
it's
going
to
affect
the
rest
of
the
design
as
we
go
down
to
the
other
blocks
in
downtown.
We're
not
going
to
have
one
block,
look
one
way
and
another
block
look
another.
L
C
Yes,
as
always,
I
would
like
to
thank
everyone
for
coming
out
to
address
council,
because
unless
we
hear
from
you,
we
don't
know
what
needs
to
be
taken
care
of,
and
Nathan
I
want
to.
Thank
you
for
coming
out
tonight.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
all
that
you're
doing
to
encourage
activity
in
this
city
and
I
did
attend
the
meeting
on
Tuesday
morning.
My
concern
was
not
so
much
that
staff
hadn't
done
their
job.
I
do
believe
that
they
did.
My
concern
was
that
the
business
is
only
a
couple.
C
People
had
responded
to
the
email
and
I
shared
with
the
just
over
a
handful
of
people
that
were
at
the
meeting
on
Tuesday
morning
that
my
personal
feeling
in
what
happened
was
that
the
businesses
were
too
busy,
and
perhaps
it
didn't
make
any
difference,
and
it
was
shared
with
me
that,
yes,
the
answer
is
the
businesses.
Are,
they
have
a
lot
on
their
plate
and
they
do
care
because
it
is
going
to
impact.
C
What's
going
on
down
there?
A
couple
of
the
comments
that
I
heard
was
we've
chosen
historical
banners.
We
are
touting
the
3400
block.
Is
our
historical
district
and
then
we
choose
modern
lighting
and
I?
Believe
that's
partly
why
Nathan
came
with
the
option.
We
need
to
get
the
big
picture.
If
we're
going
to
present
a
historical
district,
then
we
need
to
have
more
historical,
looking
lighting
and
I
I'm,
not
asking
staff
to
go
out
and
knock
on
every
door.
C
We
know
that
our
staff
does
not
have
time,
but
as
councilmember
Olson
shared
at
that
first
meeting,
it's
important
for
the
businesses
to
be
brought
into
this
and
so
I
believe
that
it's
council's
responsibility
to
go
out
and
find
out
what
the
business
community
wants
and
be
engaged,
and
this
chair,
that
was,
staff
I,
believe
that
we
are
supposed
to
help
one
another,
and
there
was
no
council
member
that
called
a
business
meeting.
I
attended
a
meeting
that
was
already
happening
because
I
wanted
to
find
out
input
from
what
was
going
on.
C
Q
To
say,
Doug
I'm
going
to
share
this
little
story
about
the
surplus
store,
a
friend
of
mine,
that
that's
his
career,
dealing
with
World
War,
two
military
jeeps
and
surplus
and
stuff.
He
was
telling
me
that
that
is
one
of
the
stores
and
people
come
from
all
over
the
country
to
take
a
look
at
because
it's
one
of
the
few
that's
left
in
regards
to
the
lighting.
Q
It
going
to
they're
going
to
be
of
a
dark,
color,
so
they're
going
to
blend
into
the
scene
a
lot
more
than
if
it
was
a
chrome
pole
and
in
the
idea
behind
this
is
that
we
like
to
do
the
lighting
for
the
holidays,
but
the
cost
of
stringing
lights
and
changing
colors
and
all
of
that
stuff
is,
is
really
high
and,
frankly,
we're
talking
about
budget
tonight.
It's
not
in
the
budget
to
do
these
sort
of
things.
Q
With
this
type
of
lighting,
it
gives
us
the
ability
to
change
these
colors
change
themes
and
literally,
we
are
able
to
celebrate
more
holidays
or
create
a
themed
event,
they're
also
modular
and
design
which,
if
we
ever
chose
to.
Let's
say
we
want
to
do
the
for
some
of
us
that
are
old
enough
to
remember
this
along
these
streets,
where
you
have
holiday
music
playing
these.
This
lighting
can
be
modified
for
speakers
to
play
that
type
of
music
and
it's
a
simple
process.
It's
a
section
where
they
screw
off
the
top.
Q
They
screw
the
new
one
on
and
you're
up
and
running,
or
if
we
need
traffic
cameras
in
order
to
handle
a
traffic
situation.
Same
thing
goes:
they're
completely
modular.
Where
the
other
types
of
designs
you
get
a
light.
That's
all
you
get
where
this
will
help
us
manage
that
whole
area
in
the
future
and
create
different
themes
throughout
the
year.
So
once
I
explained
that
these
are
some
of
the
other
benefits
to
this
lighting,
the
business
owners
that
were
somewhat
concerned
about
going
with
a
modern
theme.
Q
E
Thank
you
and
thank
you
councilmember
Yates,
because
I
think
that's.
The
kind
of
information
I
was
hoping
could
be
more
clearly
communicated
to
the
businesses
in
the
past
I'm,
not
in
favor
of
seven
members
going
down
the
business
section
of
two
blocks
and
all
of
us
getting
our
different
perspectives.
I
think
that's
worked
really
against
us.
I've
actually
heard
from
a
couple
of
business
owners
who
get
nervous
when
some
of
us
come
around
because
they're,
they
think
either
we're
trying
to
find
some
way
to
to
demonstrate
something.
E
Another
council
member
hasn't
done
right
or
to
discredit
our
staff,
which
I
think
has
happened
in
this
process,
and
that
is
unfortunate.
I
think
our
staff
have
worked
at
it
and
we
need
to
come
up
with
a
better
process
for
how
to
get.
In
goodness,
gracious
it's
a
very
small
amount
of
blocks
to
get
their
information,
and
we
really
need
you
all
to
speak
to
it.
If
it's
walking
down
the
street
for
something
like
this,
then
we
had
to
organize
ourselves.
So
we
don't
shoot
ourselves
in
the
foot
in
the
process
of
doing
that.
E
E
I,
don't
know
I
think
our
staff
are
getting
caught
in
the
middle
on
this
in
a
in
a
strange
way
and
for
us
to
talk
at
a
council
meeting
saying
you
know
that
some
people
have
heard
that
that's
what
they
they
just
want
us
to
move
on
and
when
that
isn't
really
totally
the
case.
That
really
concerns
me.
We're
sending
very
mixed
messages.
Bottom
line,
though,
is
I
really
do
want
to
see
us
get
lights
that
are
conducive
to
the
future
and
that
don't
lock
us
into
a
style.
E
What's
considered
historical
is
a
different
history
than
mid-century
modern.
To
be
honest,
it
looks
more
like
20s
and
30s,
not
50,
so
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
that
as
well,
and
then
the
light
for
the
the
what
he
called
to
combat
a
compatibility
with
the
nightlight
and
down
facing
is
I
mean
I.
Think
your
pricing,
current
studies
that
have
come
out
this
and
this
will
be
important
for
Doug,
because
he's
concerned
about
bees
right
pollinators,
light
nightlight
really
does
impact
pollinators
and
depletes
it
quite
a
bit
for
a
community.
E
So
if
we're
trying
to
work
on
that,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
that
part
of
this
is
figured
out
too
so
I,
don't
know
what
to
say.
I
just
would
like
to
in
terms
of
what
do
we
do
next?
This
has
to.
We
have
to
figure
this
out
and
I.
Don't
know
if
it's
city
manager,
if
you
can
give
us
some
ideas
of
what
you
need
from
us
at
this
point,
if,
if
we
just
move
ahead
and
let
you
let
you
just,
do
it
or.
P
Also
I
think
at
this
point
in
time,
I
think
what
we'd
like
to
hear
is
some
consensus
from
council.
If
you
want
us,
yes
have
a
Tuesday
morning
meeting
with
the
merchants
of
downtown
Engel,
what
that's
fantastic,
but
it
would
be
nice
if
all
those
merchants
then
could
be
present.
You
know
at
one
point
in
time
to
be
able
to
gather
the
groups
feelings,
but
this
isn't
about
feelings.
P
Think
we
heard
council
say
we
don't
want
to
look
like
Denver
and
we
said
fine
and
that's
why
you
got
the
fixture
that
you
got
as
opposed
to
a
historic
fixture
which,
again
in
your
packet
from
the
meeting
to
two
weeks
ago,
we
showed
the
South
Broadway
antique
row
and
South
Broadway
lighting
from
Denver.
That
was
in
your
packet.
Indeed,.
P
So
we're
we
just
want
to
have
consensus
from
you
to
give
us
direction
here
from
the
business
community
and
pay
deference
to
them
as
well
for
what
they
would
like
to
see
and
and
then
cut
us
loose,
because
we
can't
have
one
week
beating
us
with
a
whip
to
say
get
this
project
done
and
then
say
what
stop,
because
we're
dealing
with
vendors
we're
having
to
do
a
bid
process
and
a
selection
and
again
we
don't.
We
want
to
do
what's
right.
P
A
B
When
we
were
presented
this
the
reasons
for
the
choice
and
the
benefits
and
the
long-term
benefits,
and
how
these
poles
could
handle
the
new
flags
that
were
wanting
to
put
on
and
how
it
would
take
us
into
future
marketing
and
a
future
direction
for
that
area
and
also
the
polls
we
have
there
now
because
they
were
pretty,
they
didn't
last
very
long.
They
they
rotted.
We
know
we
didn't
want
to
get
into
that
situation
again.
B
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
about
this
and
I
hope
the
businesses
would
hear
as
well,
not
just
that
we're
trying
to
ram
something
down
their
throat.
But
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
I
I've
never
felt
comfortable,
as
counsel
is
that
we
micromanage
the
city,
manager's
office
or
micromanage
staff.
You
know
we
need
to
give
them
a
direction
and
entrust
their
direction
or
we
need
to
say
we
don't
trust
them
at
all.
B
So
all
right,
I
personally
want
to
give
the
city
manager
staff
the
the
say
do
what's
best
and
the
right
thing
and
if,
if
we
have
a
standard
and
the
businesses
want
something
different
than
they
can
pay
for
the
difference,
you
know
they
can
collect
their
money
together
and
they
can
make
a
a
better
idea.
The
bid
tried
to
do
that
a
few
years
ago.
We
couldn't
even
get
the
bed
people
to
agree
on
things.
B
So
that's
a
concern
of
mine
on
that
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
our
polls
last
a
long
time.
Our
polls
don't
shoot
like
upward
that
our
polls
are
led,
that
their
lights
can
change,
that
we
can,
they
could
be
multi-use
and
then
the
biggest
thing
that
interests
me
most
were
the
most
part
of
the
year.
Those
pull
those
lights
come
on
when
those
businesses
are
closed.
B
Hopefully,
we'll
have
pretty
lights
on
them
and
things,
but
we
just
move
this
forward
and
let
staff
do
what
they
need
to
do
and
they'd
like
to
get
some
input,
or
at
least
I
think
what
would
be
helpful
in
my
opinion
is
explain
the
stuff
why
these
polls
are
or
optimal,
and
a
lot
of
us
here
are
concerned
about
city
spending,
and
these
were
also
some
of
the
least
cost
of
the
polls
that
we
could
have
chose
so
I
again.
I
don't
want
to
micromanage
this.
B
A
B
A
B
A
R
So
I'm
very
proud
that
we've
been
awarded
the
distinguished
budget
presentation
award
from
the
government,
finance
Officers
Association
for
our
2017
budget
presentation.
We
finally
call
it
our
budget
package,
our
budget
book.
This
is
the
17th
consecutive
year
that
we've
been
ordered
this
this
presentation
or
this
award
it's
the
highest
form
of
recognition
in
government
budgeting,
and
it's
based
on
guidelines
to
assess
how
well
the
entity's
budget
serves
as
a
policy
document
a
financial
plan,
an
Operations
guide
and
a
communications
device.
R
It
requires
excellence
in
the
area
of
introduction
and
overview
financial
structure
policy
and
process,
financial
summaries,
capital
and
debt
departmental
information
and
document
write
criteria
such
as
statistical
and
supplemental
data.
There
are
over
1,600
participants
in
the
program
for
2017
and
we're
very
proud
to
be
one
of
them,
because
this
is
a
very
small
community
in
the
government
eight
areas
or
they
do
produce
a
budget
book
and
we're
honored
to
be
a
recipient
and
very
proud
to
be
able
to
present
this
award
to
the
city.
Thank.
L
Went
on
the
website
and
they
only
have
us
listed
for
15
years,
so
you
might
want
them
to
correct
that
if
we
actually
have
had
it
for
17,
okay,
well,
actually,
I
mean
at
least
for
this
level
of
award.
Okay
and
it's
YES
on
the
other
ones,
but
it
just
said
15.
So
if
you'd
correct,
that
will
do
absolutely.
L
A
A
A
B
A
A
Now,
therefore,
I
Joe
Jefferson,
mayor
of
the
city
of
Englewood
Colorado,
hereby
proclaim
July
17
said
Lodge
twenty-third
2017
as
Big
Brothers
Big
Sisters
of
Colorado
week
in
the
city
of
Englewood,
congratulations
to
Big,
Brothers
and
Big
Sisters.
We
are
proud
to
be
the
new
home
of
their
organization.
Happy
to
pass
this
along
I
did
get
an
opportunity
to
go
speak
with
their
organization
during
this
week
where
they
were
ramping
up
efforts.
We
were
told
them
that
we
would
deliver
a
copy
of
this
to
their
office.
Any
further
comments
on
this
issue:
counselor
Olsen
this.
E
G
A
G
A
G
A
A
You
I'd
like
to
bring
us
back
to
9.
This
is
council
bill.
49
Community,
Development,
Block,
Grant,
Program,
IgA
staff
recommends
the
council
approve
a
bill
for
an
ordinance
authorizing
the
execution
of
an
intergovernmental
sub-grantee
agreement
for
the
2017
Arapahoe
Community
County
Community
Development
Block
Grants
Program
between
the
Arapahoe
Board
of
County
Commissioners
and
the
city
of
Inglewood.
C
Down
where
it
says,
a
hundred
and
fifteen
thousand
dollars
for
the
energy
efficient,
Inglewood
III
project,
to
provide
matching
grants
to
twelve
low
to
moderate
income,
homeowners
for
energy
efficiency,
interior
and
exterior
home
improvements
and
I
actually
believe
in
the
ordinance
it
talks
about
energy.
Efficient
Inglewood
has
been
categorized
as
a
housing,
really
rehabilitation
activity
who
authorized
it
as
a
rehab
activity.
It's.
N
C
So
ten
plus
years
ago,
then,
the
next
question
that
I
have
is
under
the
financial
implications.
It
talks
about
community
development,
employees
administer
the
project
and
it's
their
salaries
and
benefits
are
part
of
the
city's
contribution.
But
then
it
goes
on
to
say
the
city
will
utilize
a
portion
of
the
Community
Development
Block
Grant
funding
from
the
project
estimated
4-thousand
to
partially
offset
the
costs
of
those
salaries
and
benefits.
So
either
we
donate
it
or
we
don't
well.
N
L
That
issue
came
up
before
at
the
study
session
about
the
housing
rehabilitation
fund,
so
hopefully
the
Kathy
Ranko.
Maybe
she
could
get
into
more
detail
because
I
didn't
see
that
I
didn't
see
that
piece
in
there
I
mean
that
fund
is
got
only
a
two
thousand
dollar
revenue
thing
coming
in,
and
so
we
needed
to
figure
out.
We've
already
requested
a
little
bit
more
information
on
what's
coming
in
and
out
of
that
fund
on
this,
whom
this
document
has
on
the
contract,
references
I
think
maybe
four
different
times.
The.
L
The
Exhibit
A,
which
is
the
scope
of
services,
that
it
should
be
attached
and
there's
an
I,
think
three
or
four
different
sections
where
it
says
that
it
is
subject
to
the
performance
standards,
establish
an
exhibit
a
and
net
exhibit
a
was
not
provided
to
us
to
go
ahead
and
understand
exactly
what
we
were
agreeing
to.
So
I
would
actually
like
to
postpone
this
until
we
can
go
ahead
and
have
all
of
the
information
that's
referenced
in
the
contract
that
we're
voting
on.
B
G
C
A
C
A
Q
J
L
Appreciate
that
I
share
your
concern
anytime,
that
I'm
being
asked
to
vote
on
or
approve
something
that
I
don't
have
the
entirety
of
that
document
and
there
are
severe
penalties
and
issues
that
are
being
brought
up
that
are
being
referenced
to
that.
I
appreciate
your
concern
about
that,
so
I'll
be
favoring
tabling
it
until
we
know
what
we're
voting
on
mr.
A
N
A
A
You
I'm
gonna
move
us
on
to
agenda
item
10.
This
is
public
hearing
items
we
do
have
one.
This
is
a
public
hearing
for
the
adoption
of
the
International
fire
code
and
amendments
public
hearing
on
adopting
a
bill
for
ordinance
amending
title,
a
chapter
to
article
3
of
the
Englewood
Municipal
Code
2014
to
the
International
fire
code.
Our
staff
source
is
Fire,
Marshal
lawyer
blend.
B
A
G
T
Good
evening
this
and
I
apologize,
this
is
my
first
time
for
doing
a
public
hearing.
I
did
cover
the
2015
adoption
of
the
International
Fire
Code
with
amendments
first
beginning
a
study
session
on
July
15th
2015
and
returning
on
April
3rd
July,
15th
may,
8th
and
July
3rd
of
2017
were
the
requests
to
have
a
public
hearing
was
suggested
by
counsel.
T
Q
Q
Hopefully,
I'm
looking
at
the
same
document
but
page
220.
Thank
you,
sir,
and
now
the
reason
I'm
asking
this
is
on
UL
300.
So
these
are
pre
engineered
systems
and
for
the
general
public,
who
may
not
be
aware
of
what
an
engineered
system
is
versus
a
pre
engineered
system.
Engineered
systems
is
where
you
have
a
a
bunch
of
raw
parts.
You
have
an
engineer
figure
out
how
all
goes
together
and
you
build
it.
A
pre
engineered
system
is
tested
design
by
the
manufacturer
and
what
the
manufacturer
says.
Q
Ok,
if
you
have
a
gallon
and
a
half
of
wet
agent,
you
have
a
total
of
like
10
10
flow
points,
I'm
just
throwing
numbers
out
there.
So
what
you
then
do
is
you
look
at
that
kitchen
arrange?
Oh
I,
probably
should
tell
everybody
what
a
ul
300
is
it's
for
kitchen
hood
systems
to
put
fires
out
on
in
a
commercial
kitchen,
so
you
look
at
the
equipment.
That's
under
that
hood
and
you
say
if
it's
a
griddle,
you
need
to
flow
points
and
you
simply
add
these
things
up.
Q
If
you
exceed
a
certain
amount
of
flow
points,
you
add
more
agent
or
you
may
have
to
add
another
another
unit,
control
head
now
in
all
of
the
jurisdictions
that
I
have
dealt
with
with
this
type
of
product.
If
you
engineered
or
if
you
put
the
system
together
the
way
the
manufacturer
tells
you
to
do
it
because
they've
done
all
the
testing
and
all
of
the
engineering
you're
fine.
Q
Now
each
jurisdiction
has
a
way
that
they
would
like
to
see
that
design
and
that
that
drawing
denver's
amendment
here
the
way
at
least
the
way
I
read
it.
Ok
and
tell
me
if
I'm
wrong
on
this-
is
that
you're
requiring
a
state
of
Colorado
licensed
engineer
to
draw
this
thing
out
which
we're
adding
another
level
of
well.
First
of
all,
is
that
am
I.
Reading
that
correct,
partially.
T
Ok
on
the
state
of
Colorado,
as
you
know,
does
have
certification
for
all
fire
suppression,
sprinkler
system,
contractors,
commercial
kitchen,
hoods
kind
of
fall
on
with
one
foot
on
side
of
each
line,
so
they
are
considered
fire
suppression
systems,
but
they're
not
covered
under
the
state,
so
most
jurisdictions
have
their
own,
as
he
said,
regulations
on
how
you
install
them
your
own
level
of
regulation
to
make
sure
they're
installed
correctly.
So
yes,
partially
to
that.
Okay.
Q
So
here's
a
potential
problem
I
see
with
this
is
that
the
engineers
I've
dealt
with
on
this.
They
will
specify
a
specific
brand
name
if
you're
using
any
other
brand
name
other
than
I'll,
throw
one
out
there
like
Ansel
it's
difficult
to
find
an
engineer
that
will
actually
look
in
the
manual
and
say:
yes,
you
you
did
this
all
correctly.
It
also
adds
more
cost
to
our
community,
and
here
again
the
system
has
been
engineered,
tested
and
stamped
approved.
Q
T
Because
I
can
comment
on
that
people
read:
do
reuse
and
resell
commercial
kitchen
hood
systems
because
of
the
costs
associated
so
rather
than
me
being
the
expert
on
behalf
of
the
city
on
all
these
different
types
of
commercial
kitchen.
Hoods
I
asked
that
a
professional
engineer
sign
off
on
and
most
of
the
time
we've
see
used
systems
saying
that
this
system
from
1993
is
designed
for
use
on
Broadway
today
and
I'm.
Putting
that
onus
on
them
to
get
their
professional
engineer.
To
do
that,
instead
of
me,
making
those
judgment
calls
it's
a
level
of
insurance.
Q
There
is
a
whole
process
for
doing
that,
and
it's
part
of
the
annual
are
part
of
the
inspection
process.
You
use
every
six
years
so
on,
and
it
doesn't
really
vary
that
much
from
when
I
got
to
be
careful
and
now
I
say
this,
because
there
is
a
system,
they
don't
use
anymore,
but
the
additional
cost
and
the
layer
of
complexity
for
our
community
is
higher.
We're
also
creating
a
market
where
a
specific
brand
is
preferred
over
another,
just
simply
because
the
engineers
have
been
trained
in
that
particular
one.
J
Q
Go
through
training
and
be
certified
for
this,
so
it
isn't
like.
The
Installer
has
never
touched
these
things
before
and
along
with
the
liability
and
the
insurances
that
go
along
with
that,
and
you
have
to
prove
all
of
that.
So
I
I
still
want
to
clarify.
Why
do
we
need
this?
On
nooses
I
can
see.
Maybe
your
point
on
the
old
systems,
but
on
new
systems
were
information
is
readily
available
again.
T
This
is
not
a
retroactive
code;
this
is
for
new
systems.
If
someone
chooses
to
use
a
used
system,
I'm
asking
that
it
be
in
an
engineer,
take
a
look
at
it
and
make
sure
that
you
know
if
it
was
used
for
20
years.
We're
things
altered
in
that
system.
It
is,
is
it
still
code
compliant?
Does
it
still
provide
the
level
of
coverage
that
they're
looking
for
I'm
asking
for
those
basics
things
to
be
covered
on
these
new
systems?
You
know
just
as
to
cover
our
bases,
basically,.
J
T
T
You
know,
because
not
everyone
does
it
the
right
way.
Honestly.
So
looking
at
youth
systems,
you
see
the
same
thing
with
paint
booths.
You
have
more
risk
associated
with
used
booths
and
commercial
kitchen
hood
systems
where
you
don't
know
where
they
came
from
and
how
they've
been
used
and
abused
and
serviced
and
maintained.
Yeah.
Q
I
can
understand
your
point
with
paint
booths
because
they
are
considerably
more
complicated
and
they're,
not
necessarily
pre-engineered,
because
each
booth
is
designed
somewhat
differently.
Have
you
know
they
have
the
bottom
draft
up
draft.
You
know
a
variety
of
ways
and
that
isn't
necessarily
covered
real
well,
but
on
the
kitchen
hood
systems,
which
is
something
that
any
the
equipment
itself
is
anywhere
from
2535
hundred
dollars
for
a
basic
system.
T
They're
not
because
they're
not
covered
by
the
state
like
a
fire
suppression
system,
installer
would
be
or
an
inspector
covered
by
the
state.
All
they
have
to
do
is
come
in
and
get
a
license
for
the
city
I
mean
there.
There
are
no
checks
and
balances,
and
that's
why
I'm
putting
those
checks
amounts
in
place
because
anybody
couldn't
install
them
yeah.
Q
Well,
I
will.
T
Q
Every
other
jurisdiction,
when
I
submit
a
set
of
plans,
you
submit
it
with
the
technical
data
you
submit
it
with
your
license.
You
submit
it
that
you're
a
qualified
trained
individual
for
installing
it
and
that
you're
following
the
pre-engineered.
Now
these
are
engineered
systems.
I
definitely
agree
with
you,
but
these
are
pre
engineered.
The
works
already
been
done.
All
you
have
to
do
is
follow
the
instructions.
T
Saying
it's
a
layer
of
cost
if
you're,
if
you're,
opening
a
restaurant
today-
and
you
have
no
history-
you
can
ask
any
of
these
council
members
who
don't
have
your
fire
suppression
background.
If
you're
opening
a
kitchen
and
you're
not
an
expert
on
those
systems
and
someone's
trying
to
sell
you
used
one
that
that
was,
you
know,
purchased
15
years
ago
in
a
different
city,
it
would
behoove
you
to
do
your
research
and
to
have
an
engineer
come
in
who
specializes
in
those
systems
to
tell
you
yes,
this.
T
This
is
designed
exactly
what
for
it
you're
what
you're
looking
for
it
has
another
good
lifespan
of
10-15
years,
or
you
know
this.
This
isn't
really
what
you're
looking
for
I
can't
and
design
those
systems
for
the
public
they
can
come
in
and
I
can't
I
can
tell
them
where
to
look
and
who
to
hire,
but
I
can't
design
them
for
them.
So
this
is
making
sure
that
our
business
owners
are
protected
and,
yes,
there's
a
cost
incurred
just
like
with
any
other
business.
T
L
L
A
Q
Is
a
relatively
difficult
subject
from
a
standpoint
that,
besides
lower
and
myself,
we're
probably
the
only
ones
that
understand
nuances
to
it.
So
there's
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
of
Education
to
the
public.
I.
Think
I've
probably
made
my
point
that
I
feel
that
this
particular
this
particular
ordinance
is
out
of
line
and
not
within
the
mainstream
of
designs,
even
in
places
like
Illinois,
where
this
is
highly
regulated.
I
just.
G
B
A
You
any
comments
before
we
close
the
public
hearing
here.
I
did
have
no
members
of
the
public
signed
up
this
evening,
either
opposing
or
favoring
the
adoption
of
the
International
fire
code.
Is
there
anyone
here
who
came
with
the
intention
of
speaking
on
this
issue,
seeing
none,
we
will
I,
have
a
motion
in
a
second
to
close
the
hearing
without
any
further
comment.
Please
vote
all.
A
You
ma'am
move
on
to
agenda
item
11.
This
is
ordinance
resolutions
in
motions
under
11
C
1.
We
have
a
contract
for
service
center
roof
replacement
staff
recommends
council
approved
by
motion
contract
CFC
1718
garland
DBS
Inc
in
the
amount
of
270
1806
dollars
to
replace
the
roof
of
the
main
building
at
the
service
center.
Our
staff
sources,
our
facilities
service
and
maintenance
manager
Dan
long
good
evening.
Mr.
long.
J
E
J
C
E
A
You
thank
you
very
much
like
to
move
us
on
to
members
choice.
We
do
have
the
issue
of
light
poles
to
discuss
a
bit,
so
anybody
would
like
to
kick
us
off.
Please
do
include
your
comments,
perhaps
about
how
you'd
like
to
see
us
perhaps
move
forward
from
my
perspective,
I
feel
like
we
have
a
couple
of
options.
A
We've
got
one
of
creating
a
new
consensus
this
evening
on
a
poll,
or
at
least
a
style
of
poll,
to
give
direction
to
the
staff
and
then
that
information
could
then
be
disseminated
out
to
the
local
business
community
and
we
could
feel
out
the
feedback
we
got
on.
That
I
feel
like
the
second
alternative
is
to
pump
the
brakes
on
this
project
a
little
bit
on
the
light
pole
portion
of
it
and
perhaps
have
a
public
meeting
and
direct
staff
to
do
some
outreach
and
preparation
for
that
Mayor,
Pro,
Tem.
B
Stops
already
giving
us
a
report,
we
already
have
the
information
on
why
the
decision
was
made.
We
already
have
members
of
moving
forward
on
that.
We
just
I
think
what
we
could
do
is
maybe
explain
to
the
businesses
why
these
poles
were
chosen
and
what
the
future
plans
for
mine-
that's
all
I
have
to
make.
Thank.
G
Q
I
would
be
in
favor
to
move
forward,
I
kind
of
feel
this
situation
has
been,
let's
say:
escalated
due
to
selective
information
being
given
to
the
business
district
so,
but
for
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
they
fit
in
the
hi.
You
know
what
there,
since
they're,
just
a
black
stick
we're
worried
about
visual
visual
clutter.
Q
This
will
reduce
the
amount
of
visual
clutter,
still
give
us
a
lighting
that
we
need
it
gives
us
the
abilities
to
address
new
issues
in
the
future
gives
us
the
ability,
if
we
have
a
you,
know,
god
forbid,
but
we've
got
an
area,
that's
a
little
dark.
Where
crime
can
happen.
It's
easy
enough
to
modify
these
poles
to
shine
light
into
those
areas
it
gives
us.
Q
But
for
that
block,
where
we've
had
the
discussions
and
we're
a
little
concerned
about
how
much
we're
shoving
into
there
and
if
we're
going
to
have
architecture
and
we're
gonna
have
art
and
we're
going
to
have
all
these
signs
and
then
we're
going
to
have
ornamental
light
fixtures
and
everything
else
somewhere.
Something
needs
to
give,
and
this
would
help
pull
that
back
and
give
us
that
necessary
flexibility
for
success
on
that
block.
E
Q
A
L
I
think
that
that
would
be
the
in
the
best
interest
of
n
everybody.
The
lights
haven't
been
ordered,
I
talked
to
Dave
Henderson
I
think
last
week,
and
he
said
it
was
going
to
be
at
least
two
weeks
before
they
did
it.
We
certainly
have
time
it's
not
going
to
interfere
with
anything
and
if
a
little
bit
of
communication
is
going
to
sell
them
on
a
different
fixture
and
give
them
in
a
respect
for
that
outreach
like
councilmember
Olson
is
looking
for
and
let's
let's
make
that
happen.
E
Want
to
clarify
that
in
no
way
did
I
feel
like
the
staff.
Disrespected,
our
business
owners
downtown
I
just
want
to
make
sure
manager
kick
that
you
and
your
staff
know
that
to
me
this
is
all
about
whether
or
not
we've
pushed
hard
enough
for
them
to
hear
to
hear
what
we
need
to
hear
from
them,
and
obviously
they
didn't
step
up
when
the
emails
came
and
my
experience
on
the
bid
is
that
was
always
the
case.
That's
why
I've
asked
every
single
time
we've
talked
about
this.
A
Folks,
who've
spoken
so
far
support
meeting
with
the
business
community,
recommending
the
contemporary
lights
and
giving
an
explanation
as
to
why
that
was
the
staff
recommendation.
And
if
there's
you
know
a
consensus
of
feedback
that
they
don't
like
that.
Even
after
hearing
the
rationale
that
we
get
some
statistical
data
on
what
the
consensus
is.
G
A
Maybe
I'll
get
to
in
just
a
moment
that
made
the
idea
here
is
to
get
a
staff
meeting.
That
explains
the
recommendation
more
in
depth
of
the
contemporary
lighting
and
after
giving
that
rationale
gets
feedback
from
the
members,
businesses
that
are
the
businesses
that
are
there
and
that
the
council
gets
statistical
data
on
what
the
consensus
is.
If
it's
not
to
go
with
the
staff
recommendation,
I
do
have
a
point
of
order
and
I'll
come
back.
Can.
C
A
C
Like
to
go
back
and
comment
on
the
first
question,
I
also
am
not
disrespecting
staff
and
I
never
meant
to
do
that
and
I
apologize
if
it
was
taken
that
way.
I
went
because
I
wanted
to
find
out,
and
the
truth
is
I
did
not
do
most
of
the
talking
at
that
meeting.
A
staff
member
was
there
and
when
questions
were
asked
I
just
deferred
to
the
staff
member
every
time
I
do
agree
with
councilmember
Olson
I
want
to
make
certain
that
the
business
community
feels
that
they
have
our
buy-in
and
I.
C
Don't
think
that
it
would
hurt
to
wait
a
little
bit
longer
one
of
the
things
about
the
style
of
the
light.
We
could
go
ahead
with
everything.
Even
if
we
didn't
choose
the
light
fixture
right
now,
we
could
do
the
wiring
and
everything,
because
every
single
light
is
going
to
have
to
have
the
same
new
wiring
thing.
So
I
would
like
to
meet
with
the
businesses
and
I
do
believe.
The
meetings
are
monthly.
C
A
C
L
Just
want
to
clarify
the
city
manager
said
earlier
that
you
could
have
a
meeting
with
the
businesses
and
I,
don't
think
any
other
council
person
made
the
comment
other
than
myself
about
my
concern.
The
way
the
staff
presented
this
and
I
am
concerned.
I
had
four
businesses
show
me.
Their
emails
show
them
to
me
to
prove
that
they
responded.
L
We
were
told
only
two
did
and
when
we
have
this
kind
of
miscommunication,
for
whatever
reason
it
happens,
it
builds
some
distrust
and
if
we
want
to
stick
our
heads
in
the
sand
and
just
I
mean
it's
not
a
love
fest
for
staff.
If
there
is
some
miscommunication,
then
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
brought
forward
that
that's
a
concern,
but
they
physically
showed
them
to
me
to
say
hey.
This
is
what
I
did
I
did
respond.
I
said
no
granted.
Those
are
only
four
that
I
talked
to.
L
That
said:
hey
here's
it
on
my
phone,
here's
it
going
and
I
go
okay
and
that
necessitated
that
there
needed
to
be
some
more
communication.
I
appreciate
and
problems
happen,
and
you
don't
fix
them
by
ignoring
them.
So
I'd
wanted
to
make
sure
that
got
brought
forward
the
offer
that
you
made
to
just
merely
go
ahead
and
offer
to
the
businesses
to
bring
that
for
it.
I
thought
that
was
something
that
seemed
to
be
that
you
could
do
that
sooner
than
their
next
monthly
meeting.
L
P
We
do
recognize
that
we're
asking
a
lot
of
the
business
owners
to
come
to
another
meeting
when
many
of
them
are
sole
proprietors,
trying
to
run
their
shop
and
I,
get
that
and
that's
that's
difficult
nature
of
it,
but
we're
willing
to
try
that
to
do
to
do
that
to
make
sure
that
we
get
as
many
folks
on
that
block
as
possible
present
to
the
to
that
meeting
and
yeah.
We
wanted
nothing
more
to
than
to
be
able
to
listen
and
hear
what
they
have
to
say.
P
So
we
we
can
gather
that
data
and
and
and
move
move
forward,
one
in
one
way
or
the
other
and
I
think
that
also
the
recommendation
brought
forward
by
council
person.
Russell
was
absolutely
correct
in
the
packet
that
you
received
before
we
show
the
locations
where
we
would
put
the
new
poles
that
electrical
work
needs
to
be
done
ahead
of
time.
I
think
the
main
concern
was
being
able
to
acquire
the
fixtures,
because
some
of
them
are
long
lead
item.
P
When
we
were
waiting
for
six
weeks
for
actually
was
more
than
six
weeks,
we
waited
12
weeks
for
Excel
to
get
out
there
and
have
their
contractor
put
the
light
up.
The
foundation
was
there
with
the
electrical,
but
not
the
pole,
for
extended
period
of
time.
So
that's
that's
possible
again.
I
think
what
we
want
to
do
is
as
staff
is,
to
make
sure
that
we
hear
counsel,
say
here's
what
we
want
you
to
go
forth
and
conquer
and
we'll
make
that
happen
any
anyway.
P
E
Heard
one
other
thing
tonight
from
the
gentleman
that
was
here
and
that
was
had
to
do
with
the
party
I
mean
the
block
party
and
I
just
totally
forgot
that
when
he
was
here
I
wonder
if
we
ought
to
also
find
a
mechanism
for
getting
feedback
on
that.
The
last
thing
I
want
for
that
not
to
go
well
either
and
if
they're
really
dependent
and
group
for
us
to
do
that.
Well,
then,
yeah.
P
Councilor
we
mr.
bestie
you're
talking
about
youth
investi.
He
is
a
part
of
the
planning
committee
for
that
right.
He
has
been
a
dynamo,
quite
frankly
with
respect
to
his
energy
and
trying
to
get
and
bring
attention
to
the
that
block
of
Broadway
the
3300
and
3400,
where
his
shop
is
actually
Allison.
Carney
will
be
back
tomorrow,
obviously
to
work,
and
we
can
talk
to
her
at
that
point
in
time
to
see
if,
in
fact,
the
committee
her
committee
feel
the
same
way,
her
committee
is
comprised
of
merchants
from
that
from
that
block.
P
Actually
two
blocks
actually
even
further,
because
whiskey
biscuits
owner
is
part
of
that
as
well.
So
we'll
see
if,
in
fact
they
share
that
same
concern,
I
definitely
agree.
That's
one
of
the
things
that
we
brought
up,
I
think
as
staff
to
say,
listen
council
we
can,
if
you've
heard
miss
Carney
correctly.
She
said
we
can
go
now
and
have
a
small
event
or
wait
and
have
a
bigger
event
and
I.
Think
council
said:
let's
no,
let's
go
forth
now,
but
I
do
appreciate
the
zeal
that
mr.
P
bestie
brings
cuz
he's
the
kind
of
guy
that
when
he
does
something
he
does
it
100%
and
and
I
think
we
don't
want
to
have
a
shoddy
event
either.
But
it
sounds
like
from
the
planning
from
the
committee
and
I
get
updated
on
a
weekly
basis
about
that
that
this
committee
is
very
deeply
concerned
and
has
worked
very
diligently
to
ensure
that
this
events
going
to
go
off
well.
But
I
do
appreciate
his
concern
this
evening
and
that's
something
again.
We
would
want
to
get
consensus
from
council
on
so.
E
I
just
to
follow
up
with
that
then
yeah
I
am
concerned
because
of
the
timing
of
it.
I
was
at
the
time
when
we
we
made
that
decision,
but
it
seemed
like
we
had
our
ducks
in
order.
I
think
if
we
don't
I,
don't
mind,
saying,
let's
put
it
off,
but
I'd
really
want
to
hear
from
that
group
really
well,
but
the
last
thing
is
having
to
do
with
this
again.
E
I
would
prefer
to
see
us
go
ahead
and
not
wait
a
month
to
get
this
group
together
again
when
they
do
it
regularly
and
go
ahead
within
the
next
two
weeks,
if
it's
possible
for
a
staff
to
something
like
that
off
or
three
weeks.
But
again,
if
we
have
to
wait
a
month,
we
do
how
many
people
were
at
the
meeting
on
Tuesday
council
member
Russell.
C
E
A
Thank
you,
I
think
I'm,
hearing
kind
of
two
different
perspectives.
One
is
you
know,
sharing
our
recommendation
and
and
explaining
that
rationale
as
to
why
that
rationale
came
from
staff.
I'm,
hearing
I
think
a
competing
thought:
hey:
let's,
let's
make
a
more
open
format
and
just
hear
feedback
from
them
and
what
they'd
like
to
see
in
a
light
I
think
is
what
I'm
hearing,
and
so
maybe
we
can
give
some
direction
on
that
comes
more
rules.
We.
E
Can
have
a
combination
of
the
two
one?
Would
you
support
the
decision
that
we
were
going
with
and
why,
with
all
of
those
pieces
and
say
no,
we
don't
have
to
do
it
that
way.
We
could
have
this
or
this
so
then
get
their
feedback.
I
think
I.
Think
what
I'm
hearing
and
I've
heard
this
from
businesses
in
the
past
that
sometimes
when
we
present
things,
they
hear
it
as
if
this
is
our
decision,
we're
here
to
convince
you
of
it
and
I,
don't
want
to
keep
doing
that.
Thank.
L
Hasn't
made
a
decision,
we
had
a
presentation
from
staff
and
so
I
don't
think
we
really
have.
We
haven't
decided
yet
so
if
we
could
just
show
them
the
options
and
anybody
who
wants
to
make
a
discussion
of
why
staff
was
favoring
one.
That's
that's
fine,
but
I,
don't
think
it
should
be
presented
that
any
decisions
been
made
because
it
hasn't
it
was
done
in
study
session.
No
decisions
been
made.
A
In
my
mind,
this
is
an
administrative
function.
This
is
not
something
that
requires
a
vote
of
the
council.
I
think
you
know.
In
my
mind
the
decision
is
truly
the
city,
manager's
authority
and
he's
simply
looking
for
guidance
on
this
issue,
and
so
in
my
mind
you
know
that
decision
it
kind
of
was
made.
It
sounds
like
no
harm,
no
foul,
the
order
you
know
haven't
been
ordered,
and
so
it
sounds
like
we're.
Gonna
be
able
to
go
through
this
process.
A
A
L
A
A
D
A
B
L
Attended
the
homeless
seminar
and
with
downtown
Inc,
and
they
have
just
erected
the
tiny
townhomes
I-
think
it's
at
38th
and
I'm
downtown
there.
It's
it's
getting
some
really
mixed
reviews.
I
mean
there
are
some
concerns
with
us.
It's
an
8
by
12,
it's
up
on
cinder
blocks,
it's
in
a
fenced
gated
area
and
with
community
kitchen
and
with
so
while
some
people
are
seeing
that
this
might
be
a
resolution
to
some
of
the
homeless
problem.
L
Other
people
are
viewing
it
that
we're
putting
homeless
people
and
what
looks
to
them
like
little
prison
setting
with
a
community
kitchen
in
this
kind
of
volunteer
work
thing.
So
there
are
some
pros
and
cons
to
it.
Denver
and
Fort
Collins
are
still
kind
of
battling
this
through,
but
there
are
also
some
concerns
about
nonprofit
church
properties
and
that
and
trying
to
use
their
property
to
put
these
on,
and
we
may
need
to
kind
of
look
at
this
to
deal
with
that
issue.
L
The
Sterling
ranch
issue
with
the
budget
I
asked
for
the
contract
on
what
Littleton
did
with
Sterling
ranch
on
this
40,000
homes,
and
hopefully
all
of
you
had
an
opportunity
to
read.
This
I
would
like
a
little
bit
more
information
to
come
through
on
the
joint
meeting
at
the
wastewater
treatment
plant,
while
I'm
sure
this
will
be
an
issue
for
the
Littleton
election
because
they
are
selling
off
their
services
cheaper
to
Sterling
ranch
and
they
do
for
their
own
citizens.
L
This
is
a
total
of
8
million
dollars
a
year,
and
if
this
was
available,
then
I
don't
understand
why
we
didn't
go
into
it
together.
I
get
that
they're
selling
off
part
of
what
they
have
available
within
their
contract,
but
we're
partners
and
I,
don't
know
that
we
should
be
doing
that
without
discussing
it
with
little
Turner
Littleton
discussing
it
with
us
and
certainly
the
revenue
that
comes
in
from
there.
Maybe
that's
why
Littleton
has
27
million
dollars
in
their
reserves
and
we
have
less
than
two.
L
So
I
would
like
to
explore
a
little
bit
more,
how
this
happens
and
what
our
obligation
is
for
the
water
contracts
and
the
regional
plans
that
are
going
in,
and
maybe
we
can
incorporate
that
into
our
operational
agreements
in
the
future.
As
to
the
budget,
the
start
of
all
of
this
budget
process
has
been
very
difficult.
L
I,
don't
believe
that
the
budgets
that
we've
had
at
least
for
the
two
years
I've
been
on
council,
have
been
balanced
or
are
sustainable.
If
we
knew
that
this
cliff
was
coming-
and
we
did
it's
been
shouted
from
the
mountaintops
for
the
last
two
years
and
then
taken
back
is
that
we
shouldn't
that
we're
overspending.
Now,
if
we
know
that
there's
a
problem
coming
and
that
next
year
that,
after
that
in
19,
we
can't
sustain
the
budget.
L
L
No,
not
that
budgets
are
very
difficult,
but
it
was
during
the
budget
process.
Ten
years
ago
this
year
that
mayor
Olga,
Wilson,
passed
away
and
she
passed
away
during
a
I
honestly
went
into
the
hospital
during
a
budget
seminar
and
I
was
hoping
that
maybe
this
council
might
have
some
I,
don't
know,
honor
her
service
or
just
a
little
bit
member
and
sit
is
the
10-year
anniversary
of
her
passing
and
I
think
that
that
would
be
a
nice
thing
to
do.
That's
all
I
have
Thank.
C
I
actually
attended
a
few
National
Night
Out
meetings
and
and
not
always
I
guess.
I
never
knew
about
it
before
before.
Getting
on
council
and
I
really
had
a
great
time,
and
the
interesting
thing
is
they're,
the
demographics
on
our
block
have
changed
dramatically.
I
think
we
have
four
or
five
young
families
now
with
little
children
and
there's
a
lot
more
energy
on
our
block,
and
so
one
of
the
young
ladies
had
a
barbecue
plan
and
I
realized.
C
It
was
during
National
Night
Out,
and
so
we
kind
of
dovetailed
into
that,
and
it
was
just
really
we
had
a
great
time
last
evening,
but
I
just
appreciate
the
city
supporting
the
National,
Night,
Out
and
I.
Think
it's
a
great
thing
just
at
the
the
one
thing
I
would
like
to
share
that
I
forgot
to
share
before
at
that
business
meeting
the
energy
that
is
created
and
I
think
Nathan.
C
Just
mostly
sat
there
and
listened
and
I
was
amazed
and
I
think
it
is
a
good
idea
to
listen,
I'm
glad
that
councilmember
Olson
caught
that,
because
the
I
do
think
there
is
some
concern
that
we're
doing
it
too
fast
and
that
I
think
there
really
are
concerns
on
Broadway
that
it
might
be
a
little
too
quick
they're
appreciative
that
the
city
wants
to
help
so
I'm
glad
that
councilmember
Olson
brought
that
up
that
we
should
bring
that
up.
Also
at
the
meeting.
C
C
A
You
moving
on
to
mayor's
choice.
I
just
wanted
a
second.
What
consum
over
Russell
was
saying
there
about
National
Night
Out
I
was
able
to
attend.
You
know
more
than
a
handful
of
parties,
and
it
really
is
a
great
testament
to
the
community
feel
of
all
of
our
established
residential
neighborhoods
that
the
community
watch
programs
are
so
strong,
get
some
of
the
neighbors
together
to
know
about
some
of
the
issues
on
the
block.
Just
really
appreciate
the
community
building
efforts
happening.
There
appreciate
councilman
Russell's
efforts
to
get
a
new
one
started
on
Dartmouth
Circle.
A
We
I
saw
that
there
were
several
sort
of
newer
parties
this
year.
So
it's
great
to
see
you
know
this
week.
I
did
want
to
highlight.
Hopefully,
Council
I've
got
the
email
regarding
the
cancellation
of
the
table
mile
table
of
Hope
of
this
Thursday
that
we
had
on
our
agendas
for
11:00
a.m.
on
Thursday.
That
has
been
canceled.
P
This
is
where
again
staffs
gone
and
calculated
our
current
baseline
greenhouse
gas
emissions
percentage
or
baseline
for
that.
But
we're
not
gonna
have
enough
time
because
that's
before
the
business
meeting,
so
the
28th
heretofore
has
been
scheduled
as
the
board
and
Commission
Appreciation
Night
at
Riverrun,
and
obviously
that's
was
scheduled
for
6:00
p.m.
but
we
need
another
time
to
discuss
budget
with
Council.
P
That
is
qualitative
and
I'm
afraid
that
if
we
don't
have
that,
we
can't
push
into
September
due
to
the
charters
requirement
of
of
scheduling
the
public
hearing,
and
we
are
very
concerned
about
that.
We
have
already
kind
of
not
kind
of
we
had
to
schedule
we'll
have
to
schedule
that
with
through
the
newspaper
and
everything
else.
So
we're
looking
for
another
night
sometime
that
week
of
the
28th
to
ensure
that
we
get
another
good
qualitative
review
for
the
budget.
So
you.
A
P
It
I
would
say
this:
it's
all
going
to
be
predicated
upon
how
far
we'll
be
able
to
get
next
week.
Next
week's
agenda,
we
have
chafa
coming
to
discuss
their
mission
in
their
role
and
specifically
the
impact
of
affordable
housing
on
communities.
That
was
a
request
of
counsel
to
do
that,
and
we
have
two
people
coming
for
that
at
right
at
six
and
then
we
have
RTD
parking
matter
that
is
on
the
agenda
and
then
that
then
the
budget,
so
a
lot.
E
P
P
Again,
we
have
several
programs
that
want
to
discuss.
Plus
there
is
any
other
information
that
council
may
request
and
ask
for
that
could
extend
that
discussion
because,
again
by
the
Charter,
we're
required
with
the
calendar
to
make
this
happen
say
at
least
two
hours,
probably
other
two
to
three
hours.
So.
P
The
process
that
you
all
have
requested,
you
know
we
kind
of
departed
from
our
process
from
previous
years,
which
really
isn't
a
departure,
because
it's
dictated
by
charter.
So
but
we're
allowing
you.
You
know
more
opportunities
for
questioning
and
input
and
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that's
a
really
good
qualitative
process.
So
I.