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A
B
A
F
G
You
for
being
here
good
evening,
mayor
and
city
council
members
before
I
begin
I'd
like
to
introduce
everybody,
is
our
procurement
administrator
and
she
is
the
individual
responsible
for
opening
up
all
bid
proposals,
and
so
she
has
brought
the
sealed
bids
with
her
today.
The
purpose
of
today's
discussion
is
to
open
the
bids.
She'll
talk,
I
think
she
will
disclose
the
cost
of
each
bid
and,
as
she
normally
does
and
then
to
distribute
copies
tonight,
we
will
not
be
discussing
the
proposals
themselves.
G
E
So
this
is
the
bid
opening
for
a
RFP
18
45,
which
would
environmental
foundation
audit.
We
have
received
five
bits
and
I
do
open
the
gates.
Please
be
patient
because
sometimes
they're
really
hard
to
open.
Sometimes
they
list
the
cost
on
a
front
page,
sometimes
on
the
last
page.
So,
let's
start
so.
The
first
bid
is
from
Colorado
independent
consultant
networks.
E
E
G
E
G
Okay,
so
it
appears
that
we
have
enough
copies
for
each
council
member,
so
it
will
pass
those
out.
But
before
you
move
on
to
the
next
item,
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
in
the
MOU
that
I
did
to
you
for
tonight's
discussion,
I
included
some
criteria
that
you
may
consider
in
your
evaluation.
It's
on
the
first
and
second
page.
It's
based
on
the
information
that
was
provided
in
the
RFP.
So
that's
information
that
you
can
use,
in
addition
to
your
own
evaluations,
for
your
discussion
on
February
11th
study
session.
Okay.
H
F
F
G
Can
address
the
council
on
the
first
page
of
the
memo
in
the
analysis
section,
there
are
items
that
were
required
to
be
part
of
the
RFP
and
I
also
provided
you
with
some
preferred
in
addition
to
the
required
of
the
types
of
things
you
may
want
to
look
for.
They're.
Just
suggestions
puts
in
the
memo
itself
great
and
then,
if
you
view
the
RFP,
you
might
have
some
things
that
you
consider
more
favorable
than
another
on
your
own,
that
you
might
want
to
consider
cuts.
B
Yes,
I'd
like
to
have
a
chance
to
go
through
the
proposals
and
comparison
to
what
the
RFP
was
put
out
and
how
they
handled
it
before
we
discuss
it.
If
we
would
adopt
any
of
these
suggestions
or
not
and
then
obviously
a
chance
to
look
at
your
suggestions,
a
little
bit
more
in
comparison
to
what
we've
received.
I
J
I
F
F
F
We
might
put
those
into
a
grid,
and
you
can
just
sort
of
give
comments
if
you
want
on
what
they
are
to
help
guide
your
thinking
as
you
read
them,
but
we've
not
been
one
who's
used,
numbers
or
anything,
but
I
think
we
might
be
able
to
provide
something
like
that
for
you
to
just
keep
track
your
notes,
if
you
want,
if
you
don't
want
to
use
that
you
don't
have
to
so
we'll
produce
something
like
that
within
the
week,
any
other
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much
appreciate
your
both
coming
and.
F
Next
up
is
our
offensive
plan
discussion,
director,
Brad,
Powell
and
planner
to
Jon
Hoeber
all
are
here
to
present
a
brief
counsel
to
brief
Council
on
the
development
of
the
Comprehensive
Plan
neighborhood
assessment
process.
Thank
you
good
money
for
being
here
mr.
Culver's
here
as
well,
and
with
only
one
mic
and
three
of
you,
we
got
to
make
sure
we
will.
C
Evening,
mayor
members
of
council,
we
wanted
to
come
tonight
and
talk
to
you
about
our
comprehensive
plan,
land-use
intensity
map
that
we
formulated
as
a
result
of
the
adoption
of
the
comprehensive
plan
almost
two
years
ago
and
Wade
Burkholder,
our
planning
manager
and
John
Bogle,
our
planner.
You
are
here
to
go
into
a
little
bit
further
depth,
but
I
wanted
to
begin
the
presentation
tonight
with
our
conclusion.
C
We
had
several
citizen
enquiries
from
people
said
what
the
overall
continuum
of
how
it
looks
in
total,
and
so
we
embarked
on
an
endeavor
in
the
sprint
last
year,
based
on
those
requests
of
pulling
together
a
compilation
map
that
summarized
all
those
13
other
maps,
and
so
I
will
conclude
by
saying
what
this
is
not.
We
did
not
intend
this
map
to
be
a
an
amendment
of
the
Comprehensive
Plan.
Again,
it's
a
compilation
of
what
is
already
in
there.
Nor
does
it
change
anything
related
to
the
underlying
zoning
of
those
districts.
C
John
and
Wade
will
go
into
more
detail,
but
this
comprehensive
plan
is
intended
again
to
be
an
approximately
20
year,
looked
into
the
future
relative
to
the
potential
growth
patterns
in
Englewood.
Now
we
can't
to
a
block
level
predict
what's
going
to
happen
over
those
20
years,
because
markets
will
change
and
things
will
change
over
time
and
councils.
Priorities
will
change
over
that
period
of
time
as
well.
C
K
Good
evening,
mayor
Olsen
and
members
of
council
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
brief
background
in
what
your
comprehensive
plan
is.
The
comprehensive
plan,
as
in
all
jurisdictions,
is
an
advisory
document.
It's
an
advisory
document
to
inform
you
when
reviewing
your
regulatory
applications
for
rezoning
for
subdivisions
and
those
sorts
of
procedures.
K
L
The
consultant
planning
saw
Logan
Simpson,
suggested
divide
city
into
neighborhoods
in
order
to
better
direct
targeted
policies
and
desires,
a
specific
character
for
each
neighborhood.
So
they
started
off
with
the
canoe
identified
commercial
core
neighborhoods
first,
so
there
are
four
primarily
commercial
neighborhoods
in
the
city.
They
include
the
downtown
a
wood
station,
the
meadow
district
Oxford
Station
and
the
South
Platte
River
area.
L
Those
are
followed
by
the
first
ring
of
residential
neighborhoods,
those
four
neighborhoods,
including
Cushing
Park
Bates,
Logan,
Park,
Jason,
Park
and
South
Broadway
Heights
and
those
are
followed
by
a
second
ring
of
residential.
It's
four
different
neighborhoods,
again
Baker
Park
Romans
car
Bellevue,
Park,
Brookridge
and
Duncan
Park.
Well
after
they
identified
the
boundaries
of
those
in
30
neighborhoods.
L
L
So
then
the
consultant
took
that
the
model
amount
and
then
began
composing
individual
Maps
root
of
13
neighborhoods.
So
this
is
a
little
bit
of
science,
a
little
bit
of
art
as
well.
So
typically,
in
these
neighborhoods
and
maps,
you
start
off
with
the
catalytic
activity
areas
and
those
are
in
red
and
those
are
high
areas
for
potential
change
commercial
zones
located
on
the
Broadway
corridor,
the
u.s.
285
Quarter
downtown
and
Methodist
Church.
Those
are
followed
up
by
closely
by
neighboring
mixed-use
transition
Aires.
These
are
moderate
potential
areas
of
change.
L
They
cover
mostly
mixed-use
of
districts
which
allow
a
strong
mix,
a
wide
mix
of
residential
multifamily,
as
well
as
limited
office
uses.
Then
that
is
followed
by
the
residential
transition
areas.
These
are
identifies
moderate
potential
change
areas
they
include
most
are
to
zone
districts
as
well
as
portions
of
the
r1c
zone
districts
as
well,
that
are
in
close
proximity
to
the
central
business
district
and
brought
like
a
corridor.
L
The
draft
maps
are
then
presented
to
and
analyzed
by,
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission
in
over
the
course
of
four
study
sessions,
and
the
plans
are
commissioned,
gave
us
some
good
feedback
on
how
to
make
some
adjustments
to
some
of
the
boundaries
of
these
zones.
Then
we
were
able
to.
They
were
ready
to
go
out
to
the
public,
and
we
presented
these
draft
maps
to
the
public
at
neighborhood
Park,
comprehensive
plan
meetings
that
were
took
place
in
July
of
2015.
L
The
composite
comprehensive
plan
lands
intensity.
Map
brings
all
the
13/8
of
the
maps
in
the
copies
of
together
in
a
single
map
how
that
map
was
created
in
March
of
2018
based
off
of
what
Brad
said.
Inquiries
from
citizens
and
they're.
Mostly,
the
citizens
are
mostly
interested
in
those
potential
residential
transition
areas.
So
I
just
like
to
kind
of
give
you
a
little
bit
of
the
flavor
of
what
the
comprehensive
plan
talks
about
in
terms
of
policy
initiatives
and
mix
for
those
areas.
It
talks
about
single
unit
detached
residential
replacement,
housing
units.
L
It
also
talks
about
selective
single
unit
attached,
townhome,
residential
housing
units
in
selective
areas
or
portions
of
those
periods
of
those
residential
transition
areas,
and
also
talks
about
accessory
dwelling
units.
Small
and
urban
lot
develops
standard
reforms,
historical
preservation,
selves
and
finally,
stronger
residential
nine
standards
and
I
just
like
to
call
attention
to
a
Planned
Unit
development
that
is
located
in
one
of
these
areas
that
was
approved
in
2014,
Logan,
Street
residences,
beauty
and
the
corner
of
Logan
and
Floyd
incorporates
many
of
those
same
policy
initiatives
that
I
just
mentioned.
L
The
Logan
Street
residence
PD
included
a
rehab
with
historical
church
building
into
two
single
unit
attached
townhome
units.
It
included
two
new
single
unit
attached
homes
on
small
outs.
They
included
one
rehabbed
single
unit
attached
home
on
urban
lobs.
It
included
three
carriage
house
accessory
dwelling
units
and
it
also
incorporate
a
traditional
neighbor
design,
character,
featuring
front
porches,
Gables
and
hip
roof
lines.
L
D
L
This
is
kind
of
cute
I
think
an
idea
of
what
the
city
where
the
city
will
probably
go
in
terms
of
market
potential
for
change,
you're
going
to
have
you're
in
England,
where
we're
going
to
have
the
most
intensive
change
pressures
we're
going
to
be
in
our
downtown
district
in
our
medical
district
because
they
are
zoned.
For
that
also,
we
would
like
to
see
some
changes
on
the
blackboard
as
you
get
farther
away.
C
In
terms
of
the
comprehensive
plan
in
general,
I
would
say
that
most
communities
identify
their
comprehensive
plan
as
a
vision
for
the
development
of
the
community
over
the
course
of
a
long
period
of
time.
And
so
one
of
the
things
that
will
allude
to
in
the
next
item
about
impact
fees
is
one
of
the
things
that
you
want
to
try
to
identify
those
areas
in
the
community
that
could
that
could
change
and
where
you
can
start
to
forecast
where
your
capital
needs
would
be
where
additional
facilities
would
be.
C
But
if
you
look
at
angle
is
comprehensive
plan,
it's
really
built
around
several
themes.
In
addition,
just
the
physical
locations
of
development-
and
so
one
of
these
is
to
establish
that
kind
of
overall
vision
for
the
community.
But
it's
very
important
to
also
understand
what
the
comprehensive
plan
offers,
which
is
at
a
minimum.
Every
five
years,
the
City
Council
goes
through
some
type
of
community
engagement
process.
To
judge
where
you
are
on
the
spectrum
of,
is
it
in
the
right
place?
C
Is
it
in
the
right
relative
to
what's
going
on
in
terms
of
the
development
of
the
community
or
lack
thereof,
because
all
of
this
is
subject
to
both
the
market
and
real
estate
cycles?
And
so
it's
hard
to
sit
here
tonight
and
say:
that's
the
city
in
20
years.
It
could
look
much
different
based
on
where
the
market
goes
and
also
where
future
councils
want
to
want
to
direct
in
terms
of
the
the
overall
growth
pattern.
C
The
priority
of
development
projects,
I'm
Dan,
purim
and
I-
have
spent
and
will
continue
to
spend
considerable
time
with
you
talking
about
the
city
center
area.
And
that's
just
this.
You
know
the
big
red
square
on
the
west
side
of
the
the
core
area
of
the
city
is
that
area
that
could
undergo
some
pretty
significant
change.
We
hope
sooner
rather
than
later,
because
this
has
enormous
redevelopment
potential
for
the
community
and
that's
the
kind
of
thing
that
we
look.
We
look
at
the
comprehensive
plan.
You
look
at
the
comprehensive
plan.
C
D
D
L
I
believe
that
something
that
developers
do
take
a
look
at
these
comprehensive
plans.
They
don't
want
to
waste
their
time
or
your
time,
so
they
do
look
at
that
pretty
closely.
I
believe
that
they
will
be
probably
looking
at
oxidation
pretty
closely
what
your
policies
there
are
as
well
as
it
would
downtown
and
the
medical
district
in
terms
of
smaller
developers
in
residential
areas
there.
You
know
they
also
obviously
want
to
know
what
the
zoning
is,
but
they're
going
to
they're
gonna
wait
until
they
get
more
definition
for
the
community
before
they
make
news.
L
Zoning
changes
will
come
from
small
area
planning
processes,
as,
like
Brad
said
that
these
we
have
these
categories
of
land
use,
but
they're,
not
there's
not
a
set
policy.
That's
been
identified
for
each
one
of
them.
There's
been
a
mix
of
Paul's
different
policies
that
could
be
chosen
by
the
community
and
City
Council
to
be
applied
in
different
areas,
and
we
haven't
done
that.
Yet
that's
that's
another
new
step.
You
give
up
a
capital
plan
and
then
you
start
focusing
more
down
into
smaller
areas,
to
figure
out
exactly
what
you
want
to
see.
L
M
L
Yes,
the
last
time
I
believe
I
was
in.
You
was
in
the
fourth
quarter
of
last
year,
but
we
were
part
of
the
problem
with
that
was
that
there
was
a
lot
of
statistics
that
were
not
worse
kind
of
a
little
stale
and
we
were
waiting
for
some
update.
Those
did
come
in
December
and
so
I
would
like
to
start
working
on
getting
prepared
for
you
to
have
another
check-in
with
lots
of
update
statistics
about
where
we're
at
right.
Now.
Okay,.
M
Great
and
then
with,
let
me
do
that
next
review
could
we
have,
and
thanks
for
putting
this
map
together
by
the
way,
I
think
it's
really
helpful
of
you
wise.
Can
we
incorporate
this
map
when
we
do
a
review
to
see
if
the
areas
of
change
that
we
are
seeing
happening
are
still
in
line
with
kind
of
what
what
we
plan
on
this
map?
Yes,.
M
I
think
that'll
help
big
sure
wise
to
see
that
you
know
what
we
thought
you
know
for
twenty
years
is
still
accurate,
so
I
think
for
me.
That
would
be
helpful
and
then
is
this
map
also
included
on
our
website
where
the
rest
of
the
comprehensive
plan
information
is
not,
can
we
just
add
it
in
there
somewhere?
Yes,.
M
B
The
Charter
lays
out
pretty
clearly
how
the
comprehensive
plan
is
done
in
cause
at
a
land
use
document,
so
that
people
know
what
they're
buying
into
and
is
generally
does
the
zoning
and
I
believe
that
you're
accurately
descripted
that
Planning
and
Zoning
has
to
do
the
comprehensive
plan.
Then
it
comes
to
council.
We
did
a
public
hearing
on
it.
There's
meetings
we
spent
money
on
consultants.
It
was
over
a
several
year
process.
B
I
have
some
concern
about
it,
continually
being
referred
to
as
a
advisory
document,
because
when
we're
talking
about
land
use
and
have
a
little
bit
of
concern
that
the
council
is
taking
an
active
step
to
relook
it
over
every
year,
even
five
years,
because
that
tends
to
make
people
who
are
going
to
do
investments
on
a
longer
term
basis.
A
little
nervous,
I
believe
on
one
end
makes
some
people
a
little
nervous
that
they
don't
have
the
long-term
commitment
from
these.
B
B
Is
that
more
of
an
attitude
of
they'll
present
to
us
and
will
change
the
zoning
depending
on
what
somebody
brings
to
us
rather
than
what
our
zoning
is
so
I
look
at
it
a
little
bit
more
than
a
Advisory
document
and
I
think
so
do
the
developers
and
that's
generally,
why,
when
they
come
to
us,
they
say
it's
in
your
comprehensive
plan.
I
do
have
a
little
bit
of
a
concern,
I
mean,
while
the
developers
may
look
at
zoning.
What
we've
had
coming
before
us
is
looking
more
at
these
traditional
transitional
kind
of
things.
B
These
other
documents
that
somehow
we're
and
and
I
think
that's
part
of
the
problem.
With
this
plethora
of
Peavey's
and
rezoning
it
instead
of
having
land
use
document
that
is
more
governing
a
little
bit
more
solid
gives
a
little
bit
more
stability.
You
list
this
neighborhood
plan
that
the
purpose
of
the
maps
is
to
geographically
give
an
idea
of
the
future
geographical
distribution
of
land,
use,
desire,
neighborhood
character
and
level
of
intensity
and
I.
B
Think
that,
sometimes
that
that
suggestions
of
here's,
what
we're
looking
for
in
the
future
when
it's
in
conflict
what's
currently
in
zoning,
is
creating
some
of
the
conflict
in
there
to
councilmembers
serious
question.
I
have
a
little
bit
of
a
problem
with
this
making
it
as
if
this
document
now
is
becoming
part
of
the
comprehensive
plan,
because
I
do
think
that
there
is
some.
B
L
B
The
comprehensive
plan,
even
in
your
own
words,
is
only
an
advisory
document
and
the
maps
are
yet
another
advisory
document
that
are
giving
an
idea
of
what
we
would
accept
in
the
future.
Apparently,
that
aren't
even
in
the
comprehensive
plan,
then
they
seem
to
be
a
little
bit
of
an
conflict.
So
why
would
we
want
to
incorporate
them
both
the
same.
L
The
only
thing
I
could
say
is
that
this
map
here
is
the
exact
composite
of
all
the
1387
maps.
There's
in
the
composit
plan
that
was
reviewed
by
the
Finance
Audit
Commission.
It
was
approved
in
public
areas
by
the
Planning
Commission
and
also
studied
in
multiple
states
such
as
by
council
doctor
by
council.
So
it
is
exactly
the
same
as.
N
H
But
important
taking
there
understand
that
there's
no
new
material
in
front
of
us
and
I
do
think
this
is
going
to
be
an
ongoing
conversation
as
development
continues
to
be.
You
know,
I
I
certainly
understand
this
is
advisory.
I
do
think
that
there's
some
folks
that
might
read
this
is
unspoken
encouragement
that
we're
saying
these
are
the
areas
that
you
should
target
if
you're
looking
for
redevelopment,
do
you
think
that
is
an
unfair
read
on
that.
C
I,
don't
necessarily
do
think.
That's
an
unfair,
read,
I!
Think
if
you
look
at
the
areas
we
have
experienced
in
my
short
time
here
in
an
unprecedented
real-estate
expansion
cycle,
a
lot
of
those
areas,
particularly
in
red,
had
been
the
focus
of
a
lot
of
the
redevelopment
in
this
community,
especially
those
of
larger
scale.
When
you
look
in
that
that
central
core
of
the
city,
we
have
the
March
sight
down
down
south
the
foundry
up
north
and
those
are
all
in
those
areas
that
have
labeled
that
and
so
I,
don't
think.
C
Those
have
pluses
and
minuses
for
all
those
property
owners,
but
in
terms
of
if
I'm,
looking
at
the
map
and
I'm
looking
in
comparison
to
what
has
happened
in
my
limited
experience
here,
I
can
see
a
lot
of
the
changes
in
the
areas
that
have
happened
over
the
last
three
years.
Our
problem
yeah
the
early
maps
by
that
by
that
conclusion,
that
we
drew
that
that
was
drawn
in
the
comprehensive
plan
for.
H
Me
and
I
think
that
the
concerns
I
typically
here
they
don't
revolve
around
the
red
areas.
It
is
the
residential
where,
if
I'm
over
there
and
district
one
I'd
say
man
that's
in
tonight,
my
colleague
comes
from
Syria
there's
a
good
portion
of
the
residential
area
that
we
are
targeting
if
we
were
needs.
The
word
encouragement
that
we're
encouraging
for
redevelopment
I
think
that
there's
a
certain
amount
of
citizens
that
it
may
be
a
good
amount
of
citizens
that
they
see
that
and
they
say
I,
don't
want
twenty
years
from
now.
H
To
this
just
be
an
entirely
different,
neighborhood
and
I
think
that
you
know
this
is
one
the
main
things
we've
balanced
with
development,
but
I
mean
in
by
design
were
broken
up
into
districts.
I,
look
at
my
district
district
for
we've
got
a
little
bit
along
Broadway,
but
outside
of
that
we're
trying
to
locked
in
you
know,
and
again
this
almost
goes
back
to
the
edu
question
where
and
you
guys
kind
of
led
it
to
what
are
the
components
we
factor
that.
Why
is
district
one?
So
have
you?
C
Of
the
factors
are
actually
a
couple
of
factors
that
John
alluded
to
in
terms
of
the
locations
of
the
different
intensities.
A
couple
of
them
were:
proximity
to
transit,
so
the
two
rail
snobs
in
the
core
area
of
the
city,
which
is
where
the
majority
of
the
commercial
services
are
provided
in
Englewood.
So
those
were
two
of
the
factors
that
kind
of
focus
the
area
of
potential
changes
where
they
are.
The
other
thing
that
I
would
I
would
mention.
I.
C
C
And
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
try
to
do
with
staff-
and
that
is
trying
to
do-
is
lift
time
and
not
just
the
time
that
we're
in
because
the
day
is
inevitable
that
the
spigot
is
shut
off
by
whatever
circumstances
happen,
either
in
the
world,
the
country
or
in
Colorado
to
slow
down
this
real
estate
cycle
and
that
the
pace
of
change
may
not
be
three
years
from
now.
What
we've
seen
in
the
past
three
years,
and
so
we
always
try
to
figure
out.
Where
is
that
middle
ground?
C
So
if
you're
interested
in
taking
a
look
or
having
an
assessment
of
that
residential
zoning
and
whether
or
not
it's
right,
we
would
ask
you
to
kind
of
balance.
That
timeline
and
by
all
means
we're
here
to
work
with
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission.
If
you
so
direct
us
to
take
a
look
at
those
in
those
from
a
zoning
standpoint,
not
the
comprehensive
plan,
but
the
zoning
standpoint
of
where
we
are
where
we
may
not
be
in
terms
of
the
balance
in
the
neighborhoods.
That
would
be
a
pretty
considerable
project.
C
But
that's
something
that
if
the
City
Council
has
taken
a
look
at
and
wants
to
kind
of
assess
the
overall
viability
of
those
areas
and
the
appropriate
scale.
We
would
look
at
that.
But
I
would
again
ask
you
to
look
at
that
middle
ground
and
not
plan
for
either
extreme
the
unprecedented
level
that
were
in
terms
of
the
development
activity
now
or
the
depths
of
a
recession.
Where
you
say
we
need
to
up
zone
all
these
areas
and
get
more
activities
going
in
these
areas.
H
L
I
did
talk
to
that
citizen
quite
a
number
of
times,
and
they
took
it
upon
themselves
to.
They
asked
me
how
many
parcels
were
located
in
those
residents
transition
areas
and
then
I
think
they
took
that
data
and
did
an
analysis,
their
own
analysis,
of
imagining
that
every
single
lot
would
be
redeveloped
in
those
areas.
I
I
Think
this
is
something
that
this
council
needs
to
consider
that
it
is
possible
that
all
of
it
could
be
redeveloped.
I
have
heard
a
lot
of
complaints,
especially
from
district
1,
about
the
development
that's
going
on
there
and
developing
the
entire
lot.
The
setbacks
are
really
nothing
and
it
is
fundamentally
changing
those
neighborhoods
I.
I
I
understand
previous
councils
have
made
these
decisions,
but
I
also
understand
that
this
council
could
change
them
too,
and
I
know
that
I
have
heard
councilmember
Martinez,
because
we
were
running
at
the
same
time
say
the
citizens
have
said
over
and
over
and
over
again
no
more
high-density,
I
believe
councilmember
Ciara
heard
the
same
things
and
it's
a
lot
of
it
is
happening
in
his
district.
But
I
believe
that
this
is
something
that
we
need
to
look
at
and
we
need
to
look
at
it
sooner
rather
than
later.
I
We
can't
keep
having
these
discussions
because,
as
long
as
our
comprehensive
plan
is
out
there,
we
have
done
a
message
to
the
developers
that
were
in
business
for
you
to
come
in
and
redevelop
our
city.
Our
city
is
entirely
developed.
We
know
new
places
to
build
wherever
we're
going
to
build,
has
to
be
redevelopment
and
I.
I
F
N
This
map
is
is
really
the
responsibility
we
have
to
understand
development
trends
in
our
city,
based
on
historic
data
and
based
on,
and
also
given
the
inputs
that
we
we
have
and
understand
today,
and
with
the
appropriate
levels
of
research
that
have
been
conducted
by
our
community
Department
team.
Our
C
leadership
can
now
understand
how
the
city
might
be
developed
in
the
future.
I
think
by
having
this
kind
of
guidance,
I
understand
your
question.
Mr.
questa,
about
it,
maybe
being
an
unfair
sort
of
suggest
the
documentation
to
certain
entities.
N
It
feels
like
diligence
on
the
part
of
the
City
Development
Office,
in
my
view,
rather
than
suggestion,
is
it's
diligent
work?
Where
are
we?
Where
have
we
been?
This
is
the
information
in
terms
of
what's
going
on
statewide
district-wide
nationwide
worldwide
that
may
affect
our
city,
so
where
might
we
be
in
the
next
20
years?
An
information
like
this
prevents
us
from
making
uninformed
guesses
and
assumptions.
N
Every
citizen
has
the
rights
of
an
opinion
and
should
and
will
always
have
an
opinion
and
I
love
it
when
our
citizens
are
passionate
about
their
city,
so
they
share
all
their
opinions.
With
this
information,
that's
based
on
research
that
the
steam
conducts
enables
the
us,
as
the
leaders
to
share
with
citizens,
who
don't
maybe
have
the
direct
link
to
this
information
that
uses
data
to
develop
a
map
like
this.
N
B
Again,
I
think
to
call
this
comp
plan
advisory
is
a
little
flip
flipping.
It
is
a
huge
process.
This
council
can't
just
undertake
to
go
ahead
and
make
some
change
to
this.
That
easily
I
mean
there
is
a
process
it's
put
into
our
charter.
There's
a
process
that
we
would
use
to
make
any
change
so
I
think
to
say
its
advisory
might
be
a
little
bit
of
an
understatement.
No
not
really
acknowledging
the
work
and
effort
that
went
into
it,
while
current
trends
are
always
going
to
go
ahead
and
play
some
part
in
it.
B
Current
trends
are
exactly
with
that:
their
trends
they're
not
a
more
thoughtful
process
for
what
we're
going
to
see
in
10
and
20
years
and
as
our
Community
Development
Director
said,
that's
got
to
be
taken
into
account.
You
can't
ignore
current
trends
when
you're
trying
to
put
together
a
comp
plan
because
we're
human
beings
and
that's
when
we
get
community
input
and
everything
does
play
a
part,
but
it's
it's
important
for
us
to
make
sure
that
we're
looking
out
at
a
longer
at
a
longer
range
I
agree
with
the
councilmember
wink.
B
Maps
on
the
same
level
as
the
Comprehensive,
Plan
and
I,
don't
believe
that
that
ends
confusion,
I
just
believe
it
mosha
zat,
all
all
of
the
confusion
into
one
document.
Instead,
the
neighborhood
maps
do
not
hold
the
same
weight,
nor
should
they
that
the
comprehensive
plan
does
and
I
think
that's
where
we're
getting
into
some
problems,
with
some
developers
coming
forward
to
us
and
being
a
little
confused.
What
we're
trying
to
do
what
we
do.
B
District
3
is
getting
even
up
there.
My
the
heart
of
the
city,
the
single-family
residence,
the
r-1
sea,
is
getting
decimated
in
this
part
of
it.
So
is
the
industrial
area.
Those
are
conversations
that
we
had
during
the
Comprehensive
Plan,
which
I
was
part
of
that
we
said
we
were
going
to
protect
and,
with
all
these
documents,
kind
of
being
loaded
on
and
being
given
all
the
same
weight
I
can
understand
it's
going
to
create
more
confusion
and
then,
as
councils
changed
so
well.
That
was
their
vision.
B
The
neighborhood
maps
are
not
part
of
the
vision,
they
are
information
that
was
provided,
but
they're,
not
the
comprehensive
plan
and
to
put
all
of
this
together
in
there
as
if
it's
all
one
document
now
I
think,
is
misleading
and,
and
it's
just
going
to
create
some
additional
angst
for
people
as
they
see
this
and
again,
I
want
some
clarification
that
the
comprehensive
plan
is
not
just
some.
It's
just
not
a
whim.
B
It's
not
a
thought
process
that
we
can
just
easily
eliminate
it's
to
say
it's
advisor
I
do
believe,
is
a
bit
is
a
bit
flip
and
to
change
anything
on.
There
is
actually
a
process,
that's
actually
put
in
charter,
it's
a
fairly
extensive
process
to
undergo
and
a
little
bit
more
than
what
I
think
somebody
advisory
would
anticipate
so
I.
F
B
Am
in
favor
of
combining
the
map,
together
with
it,
I
think
what
council
member
Winthrop
was
legitimate,
that
and
in
a
couple
of
the
community
meetings
I've
attended,
because
the
developers
reference
the
other
materials
that
they're
seeing
and
they're
saying.
But
this
is
part
of
your
transition
area.
This
is
part
of
your
your
comp
plan.
Your
zoning
says
that
I
see
that
you're
thinking
about
maybe,
and
they
are
somewhat
in
conflict
and
thank.
B
F
B
D
More
of
a
comment
so
I
echo
one
member
cuesta,
said
and
also
Mayor
Pro
Tem
in
terms
of
the
residential
areas,
and
it
goes
back
to
my
original
question
about
what
the
ultimate
goal
of
this
map
is
and
so
I
think
there's
something
to
be
said
about
Inglewood
having
that
small-town
feel,
and
you
heard
it
a
lot
when
we
met
with
the
boards
and
commissions.
Everybody
said
you
know,
I
can't
say
everybody,
but
a
majority
did
say
they
liked
that
small
town
feel
they
liked
the
affordability.
D
So
there
is
something
to
be
said
about
keeping
having
it
would
be
known,
a
place
where
you
can't
find
a
single-family
home,
an
affordable
home
and
keeping
that
keeping
basically
just
that
identity.
So
I
would
love
to
continue
having
these
type
of
conversations
about
about
zoning
and
this
map,
because
I
think
that
there
is
a
lot
of
transition
within
the
residential
that
I
I
don't
agree
with,
but
I
do
see
the
need
to
do
some
redevelopment
within
the
industrials.
But
I
think
this
is
just
an
ongoing
conversation
that
was.
N
N
H
In
my
time
on,
council
I,
don't
think,
there's
a
stomach
for
it.
I've
only
had
one
in
my
district
since
I
began
that
I
think
it's.
There
were
more
attendees
at
that
than
any
other
meeting.
That
I've
had
the
rare
couple
under
people
there
in
the
rejecter
or
excuse
me,
the
developer
didn't
even
go
forward
with
it.
So
I
wonder
if
this
really
is
the
will
of
the
people
here
that
we
recommend
for
these.
What
I
would
call
mister
drastic
overhaul
of
district
1
again,
if
that's
routes
by
right?
H
F
You
and
you
were
part
of
a
PUD
over
by
Swedish,
but
of
course
that
was
quite
different.
It
wasn't
residential,
it
was
medical
buildings
and
retail
going
up
I.
Imagine
we're
gonna,
see
more
of
that.
What
I
find
really
interesting
with
this?
It's
actually
to
overlay
what
the
zones
allow
in
those
areas
that
are
yellow
the
yellow
is
alarming.
F
A
little
quicker
so
that
we
could
be
on
top
of
the
development
rather
than
letting
it
just
happen
to
us.
Some
of
the
land
zoning
things
like
mayor,
Porto
and
I
live
in
an
area
and
several
of
you
and
r18
it's
nothing.
It's
gonna
happen
like
that,
but
the
are
one
sees
and
others
were
there.
You
could
do
duplexes.
You
can
do
a
number
of
other
things
land-use
by
right,
looking
to
see.
Where
is
the
bark
work
at
the
market?
Take
it
if
this
is
what
it
could
look
like.
Are
we
comfortable
with
that?
F
That's
where
I
find
this
really
helpful,
but
the
intent
does
go
back
to
when
we
did
do.
The
comp
plan
was
always
I.
Think
in
everyone
included
with
this.
We
wanted
it
to
be
a
living
document.
We
did
not
want
it
to
be
like
the
comp
plan
before
where
it
seemed
like
it
was
set
in
stone
and
we
did
not
review
it
and
consider
what's
going
on
in
the
present
day.
So
that
is
what
is
what
was
meant
behind
it.
F
F
That
is
not
what
yellow
means,
but
it
does
mean
higher,
dense,
a
little
higher
density
or
could
be
so
I
think
we
have
to
be
careful
about
not
conflating
the
two.
If
people
are
interpreting
this
as
what
we've
decided-
that's
not
quite
right,
but
many
of
these
pieces
would
take
a
PUD,
and
probably
this
council,
and
maybe
another
in
the
future,
wouldn't
stomach
it.
Some
areas
versus
some
others
like
on
transit,
so
I
think
we
should
have
a
meeting
in
February
if
we
can
get
one.
F
I
Would
just
with
all
due
respect,
I
agree
with
with
councilmember
wink
and
in
a
lot
of
areas
we
need.
We
do
need
the
historical
piece
and
but
we
hired
a
consultant
that
came
in
here
and
told
us
what
they
wanted
us
to
do.
But
I
think
we
need
to
be
very
careful.
It
is
our
responsibility
because
we
live
here
as
residents
as
representative
of
the
residents
in
this
city
and
the
three
of
you
do
any
of
you
live
in
the
city
of
Inglewood,
okay.
I
So
and
but
it's
really
it's
more
upon
us
you're
there
as
directors,
because
we
live
here
and
we
need
to
represent
those
other
citizens
that
are
here
but
I.
We
hired
a
professional
person
that
doesn't
live
in
the
city
of
Inglewood,
so
those
are
just
things
that
we
need
to
keep
in
mind
and
I
do
agree
with
councilmember
Sierra
that
the
number
one
thing
we
hear
is
the
small
town
feel
and
if
we
keep
increasing
the
population
in
this
city,
we're
not
very
far
away
from
that
small
town
field
going
away.
C
Maybe
in
terms
of
concluding
comments
by
us,
let
me
be
clear:
we're
here
to
take
direction
from
you.
We
understand
that.
Don't
don't
get
us
wrong
about
that.
So
what
I've
heard
is
a
couple
things.
One
of
the
things
that
we
will
do
is
we'll
go
back,
particularly
for
the
highlighting
the
highlighted
residential
areas,
we'll
try
to
put
some
numbers
on
if
we
did
a
kind
of
a
low,
medium,
high,
build-out
scenario
in
those
areas.
C
C
After
that,
next
briefing
we
would
do
for
you
it's
your
direction
on
your
appetite
on
behalf
of
the
community,
to
look
at
some
of
these
residential
areas
and
then
go
to
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission
and
develop
a
process
for
actually
looking
at
the
zoning
ordinance
and
appropriate
changes.
As
you
sew
directly
I.
B
L
B
When
people
see
the
yellow
areas,
let's
just
take
district
3
over
there,
that's
r1
see
it's
yellow
people
cannot
put
a
high-density
in
there
right
now,
so
it
hasn't
been
resumed
for
those
yellow
areas.
Yet
that's
just
the
transition
area.
Let's
just
stick
with
that
little
area,
maybe
I'll,
get
a
better
answer
for
how
that
is.
G
F
F
F
F
Thank
you
and
if
we
could
summarize
this
by
saying
their
plan
is
you'll
come
back
with
some
of
these
sort
of
overlays
and
I
would
love
for
us
to
do
an
update
on
where
we
are
now
that
you
have
current
information,
so
we
could
become
more
clear
and
you
know
what
we're
looking
at
and
thank
you
we'll
take
a
anything.
Thank
you
for
being
here.
Providing
this
I
guess
we're
not
taking
a
break.
F
C
In
a
nutshell,
our
charges
are
made
against
a
specific
new
development,
specifically
for
the
new
costs
of
facilities
and
programs
to
service
that
development.
So
if
you
have
a
your
subdivision
that
that
rebuilds
and
there's
streets
and
sewers
and
parks,
and
all
that
that
are
associated
with
something
like
that,
then
the
developer
is
essentially
charged
a
fee
to
help
offset
the
impact
from
that
new
development
on
existing
services.
C
C
We
can't
charge,
or
nobody
in
Colorado
can
charge
an
impact
fee
to
pay
for
existing
facilities
operations,
maintenance
that
has
to
be
directly
related
to
the
impacts
associated
with
a
specific
new
development
impact
fees
can
be
imposed
on
all
kinds,
all
the
ranges
of
development,
commercial,
residential
industrial,
but,
as
I
said,
they
must
be
tied
to
the
impacts
associated
with
the
with
the
development.
Typically,
they
fund
things
in
terms
of
major
infrastructure,
roads,
transportation
parks,
but
also
services,
libraries,
municipal
facilities,
not
so
much
in
Englewood,
but
a
lot
of
the
special
districts
and
suburban
areas.
C
They're
doing
those
for
emergency
services,
particularly
in
areas
that
have
not
been
developed
before
a
couple
of
cities,
include
affordable
housing
in
terms
of
some
of
the
impact
fees
associated
with
new
development.
So
the
way
I
would
characterize
it
is
it's
not
a
hundred
percent?
It's
part
of
the
menu
of
things
that
are
done
on
behalf
of
municipalities
to
pay
for
the
new
growth
associated
with
development
in
terms
of
some
of
the
challenges
and
opportunities
associated
with
impact
fees
generally,
is,
as
the
infrastructures
improve
the
community.
One
of
the
major
benefits
is
values
generally.
C
If
the
infrastructure
is
in
good
shape,
people
that
tend
to
have
higher
property
values
over
time,
and
so
that's
a
benefit
from
diversifying
the
collection
for
a
wider
base
than
just
from
the
existing
tax
base
as
new
development
comes
online.
Obviously,
if
you
have
more
new,
if
you
have
more
growth,
obviously
what
what
Colorado
is
going
through
now,
there's
a
higher
level
of
impact
fees
that
come
in.
Conversely,
if
the
development
pipeline
is
curtailed
through
recession
or
otherwise,
obviously
there
are
fees
that
would
be
collected.
It
can
help
offset
the
impact
particularly
of
large
projects.
C
I,
think
a
lot
of
communities
in
Colorado
are
doing
this
for,
what's
known
as
greenfield
or
new
development,
that's
done
a
pretty
significant
scale
because
they
can
tie.
You
know
the
increased
capacity
of
a
sewage
treatment
plant
to
the
to
the
development
of
a
500
home
subdivision,
and
they
can
make
a
correct
a
direct
link
between
the
provision
of
the
the
new
development
and
the
cost
to
to
service
the
development.
C
Generally,
the
costs
of
these
fees
are
passed
on
to
the
end
users,
be
they
buyers,
renters
lessees
developers
never
tend
to
absorb
what
they
consider
to
be
the
cost.
They
tend
to
look
for
ways
to
pass
those
cost
on
to
end-users
and
that
can
have
impact
for
certain
types
of
projects,
particularly
if
a
community
is
interested
in
maintaining
affordability
or
actually
promoting
affordable
housing
space
for
nonprofits.
If
there's
not
an
exemption,
that's
part
of
the
the
impact
fee,
some
of
those
can
prove
either
harder.
Developer
may
actually
improve
infeasible
if
the
fees
are
are
considerable.
C
One
of
the
things
that,
in
my
limited
research
of
impact
fees
so
far
is
this
is
very
legally
sensitive
issue,
because
the
state
statute
is
very
clear
about
that
direct
relationship
between
the
impact
of
the
new
development
and
the
fee
that
you're
charging.
So
one
of
the
things
that
would
have
to
happen
is
a
lot
of
cities
would
get
a
third
party
to
really
analyze
things
in
terms
of
our
capital
improvement
plan.
I
will
mention
the
comprehensive
plan
and
kind
of
the
schoo
of
future
development.
C
So
an
example
of
a
fee
that
would
be
applicable
as
if
a
development
pays
into
a
fund
to
construct
a
park
adjacent
to
a
development
that
would
be
utilized
by
the
residents
of
the
new
development,
one.
That
would
probably
be
a
little
bit
more
tenuous,
as
I
alluded
to
earlier,
as
if
we
charged
a
fee
to
a
new
development,
that's
placed
into
a
fund
to
try
to
address
some
of
the
existing
backlog
of
either
maintenance
or
shortcomings.
An
existing
infrastructure
citywide
that
was
more
of
a
tenuous
legal
relationship
between
the
fee
and
charging.
C
C
As
as
development
comes
online,
we
actually
included
a
a
real-world
example
from
the
recent
past
in
the
in
the
packet
of
a
project
that,
if
they
had
paid
that,
if
they
had
provided
that
land
fee
for
that
land,
dedication
of
actual
physical
land
somewhere
on
their
site,
if
it
actually
would
have
been
bigger
than
the
development
site
itself,
and
so
I
would
argue
that
our
land
dedication
fee
as
it
specifically
relates
to
Parks,
was
really
developed.
Around
a
more
suburban
model,
then
is
in
Englewood.
We
have
very
small
Lots,
smaller
scale.
C
C
A
C
A
little
bit
in
terms
of
an
introduction
and
an
overview
of
how
impact
fees
have
generally
been
established
in
Colorado
and
kind
of
the
linkage
between
the
impact
of
a
new
development
and
the
services
required
to
specifically
service
that
new
development
and
that's
the
conclusion
of
I,
wanted
to
say
and
we'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
or
take
any
direction
for
further
information
that
you
may
want
to
ask
us
about.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
B
C
B
A
B
I
think
that
the
document
being
labeled
England's
current
regulations
would
make
people
believe
that
we
have
impact
fees
currently,
which
I
don't
believe
we
do,
but
if
you're,
if
you're,
referring
in
the
current
regulation
to
the
fee
and
lieu
of
that,
we
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
understands
that
we
do
not
currently
charge
impact
fees.
We
don't
actually
have
regulations
for
it.
Okay,
that's
correct
all
right!
Thank
you
very
much.
H
H
N
N
H
H
Does
that
sort
of
a
fee
even
remotely
cover
it
in,
as
you
said,
maybe
maybe
it's
not
intended
to
but
I
wonder
if
the
offset
is
there
like
I
look
at
the
project
going
back
to
2012
that
you
guys
get
the
example
of
the
city
was
supposed
to
collect
135,000
total.
We
ended
up
collecting
57,000
because
we
gave
away
a
bunch
of
credits
and
that
to
me
is
such
a
difference.
I
think
in
the
frame
of
since
these
days
we're
talking
about.
Should
we
allow
new
development
at
all
where's.
H
Six
years
ago
we
were
paying
people
to
come
into
the
city
and
I.
Think
that
there's
a
different
frame
of
mind
now
I'd,
not
I,
would
like
to
keep
that
in
mind.
As
we
said,
these
impact
fees-
and
you
know
what
is
the
city
looking
to
get
out
of
these
new
developments?
What's
in
it
for
these
citizens
right
now,
I
don't
have
an
immediate
answer
for
that
question,
but
that's
really
from
Center
on
my
mind
and
that's
what
I
think
a
lot
of
people
ask
me.
Why
is
this
good?
D
So
in
terms
of
the
final
question
there
I
would
like
to
investigate,
but
then
just
also
since
it
does
have
to
be
for
some
specific
purpose.
Obviously,
council
would
have
to
decide
what
that
would
be,
but
realizing
that
the
developments
that
we've
at
least
talked
about
does
involve
the
movement
of
pedestrians
across
busy
roads
and
so
I
think
that
that
would
be
a
worthwhile
place
to
start.
I
Actually,
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
that
hit
me
when
I
was
reading
this
because
we're
already
fully
developed
and
it's
all
about
redevelopment
and
were
limited
to
how
much
impact
fees
we
can
actually
charge.
Then
my
takeaway
from
that
whole
thing
is.
Perhaps
we
need
to
reconsider
growth
because
I
think
it's
gonna
cost
us
more
money.
The
interesting
thing
is
I,
don't
know.
If
any
of
you
have
read
any
of
these
articles.
I
The
Denver
Post
over
the
last
couple
of
weeks
has
been
talking
a
lot
about
densification
of
Denver
and
lack
of
green
space.
This
was
January
15th
and
the
headline
is:
we
need
more
open
spaces,
Denver
resident
feeling,
stifled
by
cities,
building
boom
seek
room
to
roam
and
I.
Think
the
problem
is
the
same.
I
385
thousand
dollars
that
we've
collected
since
2012
is
really
a
drop
in
the
bucket
and
even
maintaining
the
parks.
Let
alone
upgrading
them
and
is
it
50
million?
It's
a
it's
a
pretty
big
number
if
we
upgrade
all
of
our
parks
to
what
they
need
to
be
at
the
current
level.
Is
that
correct?
That's
what.
I
Done
at
once,
okay,
and
so
if
we
increase
density,
we're
not
even
going
to
have
enough
parkland
so
buying
property
and
personally
I
do
not
believe
in
eminent
domain.
So
if
we
want
more
land,
we
need
to
be
buying
property
and
I.
Don't
think
that's
I
just
think
this
is
the
thing
that
we
need
to
consider,
because
the
density
is
going
to
create
more
problems
than
we
already
have
comes
where.
B
So
if
we
have
an
existing
Road
and
it
doesn't
meet
that
new
requirement,
it
still
can
be
given
that
money
or
for
lights,
for
additional
the
infrastructure
for
there
and-
and
we
have
been
talking
about
impact
fees
since
I've
gotten
back
on
this
council
I
mean
the
previous
city
manager
was
all
gung-ho
on
doing
it
and
I.
Don't
know
why.
We
never
went
forward
with
something
while
we
were
having
the
construction
boom
that
we
were
so
I
am
all
for
making
this
come
forward
and
taking
a
little
bit
better.
M
You
if
we
were
to
I'm
just
trying
to
think
of
what
are
the
some
of
the
things
that
we
could
use
those
funds
for,
obviously
transportations
been
mentioned,
walking
and
bicycling
police
and
fire
services
were
mentioned
in
there.
It
looks
like
it
could
be
as
long
as
it's
not
related
to
a
capital
facility.
It.
C
The
the
the
the
increase
in
demand
that
is
created
by
that
development
can
be
offset
through
an
impact
fee
on
that
development,
and
so
one
of
the
challenges
is
and
I
don't
want
to
belabor
this
discussion
because
we
would
come
back
with
you
with
a
more
advanced
pro
and
cons.
Analysis
is
in.
In
my
professional
opinion,
impact
fees
are
biased
toward
large-scale,
previously
undeveloped
land.
We're
talking
about
the
vast
majority,
and
we
said
this
in
the
memo.
C
F
Right,
I'm
not
going
to
take
any
more
because
I
think
that
what
we
have
is
a
general
consensus
that
we
want
you
to
come
back
with
more
so
I'm,
going
to
ask
you
to
submit
any
further
questions
directly
through
the
interim
city
manager,
so
that
they've
got
all
the
questions
they
need.
If
I
could
ask
for
clarification,
I
do
think
it's
important
to
point
out
that
if
you
want
detailed
recommendations,
we're
going
to
need
expertise
that
we
don't
have
on
staff.
F
So
if
you
want
us
to
present
what
that
might
look
like
we'd
be
happy
to
follow
up
on
that.
But
that's
that's
the
important
point,
and
if
it's
it's
your
directive
to
investigate
that
we'll
be
happy
to
do
so.
I
think
we
have
a
fairly
strong
sense
of
that.
We
do
want
you
to
move
us
to
the
next
step.
If
that's
what
it
needs
to
be
for
you,
please
bring
that
forward.
F
I
am
concerned
about
time
right
now,
and
I
also
think
that
one
of
the
issues
that's
going
on
here
is
that
out
we're
in
a
different
economic
time
and
I
think
this
should
always
be
revisited.
Even
in
2012
I
remember
the
conversations
and
who
thought
what
on
this
we're
very
you
know
we
had
a
lot
of
difference
of
opinions
even
when
we
come
up
with
what
we
did.
So
it
would
not
surprise
me
that
we
need
to
come
and
revisit
this.
So
let's
continue
on
with
that
I'm
for.
B
The
will
day
out
of
way
I
have
to
rescind
my
support
of
it.
Then,
if
I
was
thinking
that
we
were
going
to
get
some
information
from
some
other
municipalities
on
what
they're
doing
I
believe
we
numerous
projects
that
would
require
impact
fees,
not
just
some
kind
of
brownfield
large
build
and
if
it
requires
them
getting
outside
expertise
to
bring
us
any
additional
information.
Then
I,
don't
think
so.
B
F
D
F
F
K
K
D
F
N
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
J
N
I
F
F
F
I
F
D
D
D
A
C
D
D
D
O
I
D
D
So
if
we
can
look
at
that
and
just
agree,
what
would
provide
more
benefit
to
the
community
if
we
were
looking
to
look
at
specific
ordinances
for
2019,
that
would
be
one
step
and
then
obviously
just
the
clear
process
for
how
these
orders
get
back
to
the
city
manager,
to
Council
and
to
the
city
attorney.
Those
were
the
three
things
that
I
would
like
to
highlight
in
terms.
N
I
N
N
B
F
I
Much
what
all
I
was
going
to
say
is
there
are
reasons
for
what
happened?
Are
they
right?
No,
this
council
has
made
issues
that
have
happened
here,
maybe
not
exactly
like
that.
We
deal
with
those
issues
and
we
move
on
I
believe
this
whole
thing
was
a
learning
process
for
that
board
that
the
whole
thing
operated
correctly
there
that
the
first
meeting
there
was
a
discussion
about
whether
to
let
this
citizen
speak
or
not.
I
I
F
M
Thank
you.
This
is
troubling
for
all
the
reasons
that
have
been
mentioned
previously
and
has
been
for
several
months
now
and
I
have
never
experienced
issues
with
any
border.
Commission
like
since
I've,
been
on
council
as
a
liaison
and
also
before
I
was
on
council
as
members
of
two
ports
and
commissions.
So
this
is
troubling
it's
the
first
time,
I've
seen
it
bubble
up
to
this
level,
and
people
are
really
emotional
and
upset
about
it
and
I
think
we
need
to
do
something
about
this
and
right
now
we
can't
push
it
off
anymore.
M
We
need
to
do
whatever
we
can
to
help
code
enforcement
advisory
committee
be
their
most
effective
and
so
council
can
be
our
most
effective
as
well.
We've
spent
now
how
many
parts
of
study
sessions
talking
about
this,
and
we
have
a
lot
on
our
plates
too,
so
I
think
we
need
to
do
what
we
can
to
help
work
through
this,
and
we
need
to
obviously
clean
up
the
code
and
the
bylaws.
M
D
D
How
many
times
have
we
mentioned
charter
tonight
like
it's,
come
up
plenty
of
times,
whether
or
not
that
confide
that
conforms
to
charter,
and
so
again
it's
just
the
fact
that
you
know
Council
shall
deal
with
the
administrative
service
solely
and
directly
through
the
city
manager
and
neither
the
council,
its
members
nor
committee,
so
I
either
dictate
the
appointment
or
direct
or
interfere
with
the
work
of
any
officer.
That
is
my
that
is
the
pond
that
I
had
with
that
with
that
email.
Those
two
points
everything
else
in
there
I
felt
was
okay.
It
was.
D
It
was
perfect
to
ask
that
of
any
citizen
to
get
additional
information
about
the
process
and
procedures
that
would
help
the
advisory
committee.
So
so
that
was
my
point
of
contention
for
that
email
regarding
the
next
doors
post,
I
actually
agree
with
member
Behrens.
On
that,
my
concern
with
posting
on
next
door
potentially
could
be
an
open
meetings,
law
violation
in
the
sense
that,
if
there's
multiple
members
of
a
committee
answering
emails
or
or
posting
on
a
site
that
potentially
is
a
meetings
law
violation.
D
F
I'm
I
haven't
spoken,
I'm,
the
one
who
suggested
a
pause
and
I'm
sure
there's
some
people
who
really
want
to
upset
with
me.
For
that
to
me,
a
pause
is
not
a
shutting
it
down.
A
pause
is
a
reset.
This
group
of
people
has
the
right
to
operate
well
and
what
whatever
we're
doing,
whatever
our
interpretation
and
differences
of
opinions
about
the
Charter
and
in
the
code
and
the
way
in
which
it's
interpreted
for
this
committee
is
at
odds
right
now.
We
are
at
odds
with
it
in
various
places
they
have
to
honor
them.
F
We
ought
to
make
sure
we're
clear
about
what
it
is.
I
read,
being
a
conduit
much
differently,
but
I
have
nine
years
of
experience
where
it's
never
someone
going
out
and
and
videotaping
our
code
officers
and
suggesting
that
citizens
do
because
then
they
get
it
all
on
tape
and
it
sounds
like
we're
trying
to
trip
up
people.
That's
not
my
goal.
F
I
would
certainly
hope
that
their
goal,
which
I
bet
their
intended
goal,
is
but
may
not
be
coming
off
like
this
is
finding
out
where
things
are
going
wrong,
so
we
can
rectify
them,
which
is
what
I
think
that
the
code
Advisory
Committee
is
supposed
to
be
about.
I
have
talked
to
a
number
of
people
who
have
sat
on
this
committee
in
the
past
to
say
what
has
it
been
like,
and
many
have
said
over
the
time
over
my
short
time,
even
that
it's
unclear.
Sometimes
this
commission
in
particular
it's
unclear.
F
So
that's
one
and
the
second
is
and
I
think
they've
addressed
it
really.
I
did
listen
to
the
whole
meeting
last
one
I've
listened
to
four
or
five
now
just
to
go
back
in
time
to
see
what
the
tenors
like
in
the
meeting,
how
they've
handled
things
and
there's
obvious
misunderstanding:
it's
not
their
fault
on
some
things.
They
just
I,
don't
think
they
knew
they
didn't
intend
to
break
the
Open.
Meetings
lied
out,
but
they
did.
And
but
you
know,
what's
the
recourse
of
that.
F
Well,
we
tell
them
that
they
did
so
and
we
outlined
better
for
all
of
our
committees.
When
does
that
happen,
budget
Advisory,
Committee
I,
remember
when
they
first
started
out
they
they
really
got
really
clear
about
when
they
were
breaking
on
the
open
meetings,
law
or
not,
and
set
up
some
clear
ideas
about
how
to
email
one
another.
Not
all
committees
are
aware
and
do
that,
but
they
had
very
aware
people
on
it.
So
I'm
considered
about
I'm
concerned
about
the
the
primarily
what
is
their
role?
What
should
they
be
doing?
F
They're
supposed
to
be
doing
a
comprehensive
view
of
the
municipal
ordinances
intended
to
prevent
abuse
situations?
What
does
that
really
mean?
And-
and
it
seems
like
it's
supposed
to
somewhat
come
from
us,
giving
them
a
charge
for
some
things,
but
we
haven't
been
telling
them
hey.
We
want
you
to
work
on
this
last
time.
We
did
that
it's
when
we
asked
them
to
work
on
chickens,
another
time,
potbellies
and
another
time,
I,
don't
know
what
the
other
is
Jose.
F
F
We've
had
a
number
of
phone
calls
and
people
emailing
about
their
nervousness
about
this
committee
and
what
it's
doing
I
don't
want
to
get
anybody
into
any
difficult
situation,
so
I
would
prefer
to
reset
the
reset
what
it's
about
make
sure
we're
up
there.
What
we
want,
maybe
change
the
language
a
bit
in
this
to
make
sure
we're
all
on
the
same
page
and
try
and
do
something
which
is
right
by
our
citizens,
which
is
supposed
to
be
an
advisory
committee
that
helps
us
understand
how
we're
moving
forward
and
code.
B
I've
had
a
lot
of
feedback
at
my
coffees,
my
meetings,
that
this
looks
punitive
and
that
if
a
committee
doesn't
do
what
this
council
wants,
or
if
there's
people
on
a
committee,
that
this
council
has
political
issues
with
that's
what
it
looks
like
that's
what
I'm
getting
some
feedback
for
this
ultra
focus
on
this
one
committee
for
these
issues
does
look
punitive
and
even
slightly
political
as
well.
It
isn't
a
fact.
B
He
read
the
Charter
on
exactly
what
they're
supposed
to
be
doing
and
the
Charter
says
that
they
arguably
are
supposed
to
be
directing
the
enforcement
I.
Don't
think
code
enforcement
or
any
of
our
employees
or
police
especially
have
any
problem
being
filmed
in
the
course
of
their
job,
and
they
should
not
that's
pretty
common
practice
today
and
I
think
that
they
want
it
for
their
protection
as
much
as
the
protection
of
the
community,
so
that
there's
an
accurate
record.
If,
if
that's
necessary,
that's
pretty
common
place
to
do
that.
F
Most
remember:
Brent
I'm
gonna,
interrupt
you
I'm
sorry,
but
could
you
add
something
new
to
the
conversation
we've
heard
this
argument
for
it
and
it's
a
legitimate
one.
Is
there
anything
new
you'd
like
to
add
to
the
conversation
about
whether
or
not
to
pause
them,
whether
to
take
councilmember,
Sierra's
suggestion
I.
B
Think
that
this
council
already
decided
not
to
pause
I,
think
that
the
mayor
didn't
like
that
decision
and
we're
back
at
it,
and
this
is
not
the
first
time
that,
when
something
doesn't
go
a
certain
way
and
you
have
the
authority
to
go
ahead
and
bring
it
back
and
then
we
keep
bringing
it
back
ad
nauseam
until
something
gets
done
and
I
don't
think
we
should
buzz
it.
The
council
already
had
this
at
a
study
session.
F
H
O
O
I've
been
very
concerned
that
that
my
office
is
out
of
step
with
code
enforcement,
advisory
committee
and
and
I'm
giving
you
answer
that
you
want,
but
we've
I
have
told
all
the
boards
and
commissions
they
may
not
bring
ordinances
to
this
council
directly.
That
ordinances
come
through
my
office
first
and
the
reason
for
that
is
not
to
shut
down
communication.
The
reason
is
because
if
poorly
written
ordinances
are
brought
to
the
council
and
the
council
votes
them
down,
because
they're
poorly
written
and
can't
be
enforced,
it
looks
like
the
council
isn't
supportive
of
the
idea.
O
If
they
vote
in
favorite
because
they're
supportive
of
the
idea,
then
they
have
an
enforceable
ordinance.
It's
an
it's,
not
a
good
situation.
To
put
the
council
in
so
ordinances
should
come
through
my
office
first
and
the
cut
force
and
visor
II
committees
come
up
with
several
topics
that
I
think
we
really
need
to
be
looking
at,
but
we
we
don't
have
the
time
to
do
every
great
idea.
O
Everybody
has
so
I
need
them
to
get
direction
from
the
council
on
their
great
ideas,
and
then
the
council
direct
my
office
to
make
that
a
priority
and
not
work
on
other
things
that
make
these
a
priority.
So
there
are
there's
some
conflicts
between
code
and
charter
that
are
very
clear.
There
are
some
policy
applications
that
are
very
unclear
and
I
I
think
that
they're
they've
got
great
ideas.
We
are
not
able
to
support
those
as
we
should
and.
H
H
It
would
look
singular
if
we
just
said
we're
doing
this
with
code
enforcement
advisory
and
that
it
really
should
be
pretty
broad
and
touch
each
one
now
giving
them
that
you
probably
can't
work
each
one
simultaneously,
but
you
know
I
would
think
we
would
want
to
come
up
with
some
order
in
which
we
review
them
because
I
again
I
doubt
this
is
the
one
again.
This
is
written
to
the
surface,
and
so
I've
looked
at
these
bylaws
work.
I
haven't
looked
at
it.
M
F
M
And
part,
two
of
that
to
what
council
member
cuesta
mentioned,
we
do
have
the
boards
and
commissions
come
before
us
once
a
year.
Maybe
we
do
visit
on
some
sort
of
schedule
with
the
boards
and
commissions
and
and
have
the
conversations
you
know
what's
working.
Where
do
you
need
more
guidance?
Are
there
issues
that
would
in
your
bylaws
that
conflict?
Maybe
we
do
that
at
several
times
a
year
for
each
of
the
groups
sure.
F
Actually,
we
could
have
all
the
boards
and
commissions
in
the
next
two
months
tell
them
to
look
at
all
of
their
bylaws
and
codes
and
tell
us
where
they
think
it's
confusing
to
them
or
what
they
think
is
is
inconsistent.
It
even
doesn't
make
sense
for
the
current
day,
because
some
of
this
stuff
was
written
a
long
time
ago.
M
F
Think
in
our
city
manager-
let's,
let's
you
if
I
may
I
just
wanted
as
director
of
staff
and
as
an
advocate
of
staff,
they
are
confused,
I.
Think
about
the
role
of
the
code
enforcement
advisory
committee
as
well.
They
very
much
want
to
have
a
collaborative
environment,
but
sometimes
it's
it's
unclear
where
the
steps
are
where
the
code
enforcement
advisory
is
an
advocate
and
when
they're,
supportive
of
that,
so
anything
that
we
can
do
to
improve
those
communications
in
that
collaborative
environment,
I
think
would
be
a
very
positive
step.
F
N
One
more
week,
I
have
a
question.
Thank
you
very
for
director
Hargrove,
perhaps
maybe
also
since
it
was
brought
up
that
the
the
staff
liaison
was
receiving
direction
from
the
code
enforcement.
Chair,
I.
Think
I
think
is
what
I
heard
said
earlier.
So
maybe
we
also
examine
across
all
boards
and
commissions
the
the
relationships
between
them
and
the
staff
liaisons
as
well
to.
B
B
That
way,
I
mean
that's
not
how
they're
seeing
what
their
role
is,
and
some
of
the
some
of
the
staff,
especially
with
our
quasi
judicial
boards
as
well
kind
of
circumventing
process,
are
not
making
it
clear
how
the
process
is
for
that
board
of
the
authority
that
board
or
whether
they're
part
of
that
process,
and
not
the
board.
So
I
think
on
a
your
point.
Nabors
well
taken.
B
When
we're
not
paying
attention
to
all
of
the
issues
and
problems
that
are
going
on
with
boards,
if
there's
some
confusion,
so
I
think
look
at
some
of
that
would
be
a
good
idea,
I
believe
when
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
came
and
talked
to
us,
they
brought
up
some
serious
issues
and
we
really
never.
We
really
never
vetted
those,
and
so
all
that
ends
up
happening
is,
is
that
it
kind
of
ends
up
festering.
So
I
would
like
to
make
sure,
and
and
also
to
look
at
the
staff
role
as
well.
I
O
Think
I've
spoken
to
you
about
the
boards
and
commissions
policies
that
we
told
all
the
boards
and
commissioners
that
we
thought
we'd
have
out
by
last
February
I've
just
sent
what
I
hope
is
the
final
draft
to
the
city
manager
for
her
final
review.
So
we
can
get
that
out
to
Council
the
review.
I
think
that
will
help
a
lot
because
I
don't
think
boards
and
commissioners
understand
that
they
are
subject
to
the
Open
Meetings
law.
When
they're
made
a
volunteer
on
a
board,
they
are.
O
They
have
a
role
of
the
city
where
they
discuss
the
city's
business
and
when
a
quorum
of
them
are
discussing
whatever
the
business,
for
example,
code
Advisory
Committee
if
they
have
the
the
quorum
of
them,
discussing
it
by
email,
they're
violating
the
open
meetings,
law
and
I,
don't
think
it's
just
the
cone
force
and
visor
committee
that
might
run
into
that.
I
think
that
all
boards
and
commissions
need
to
be
reminded
annually
of
these
issues.
I
Okay
and
then
one
other
thing,
I
I
really
don't
want
to
pause
that
committee,
but
if
they
truly
are
our
priority,
then
I
think
that
we
would
need
to
make
sure
that
we
need
to
get
on
the
agenda
the
issues
our
bylaws
or
whatever,
that
we
want
to
deal
with,
make
it
a
priority.
So
it's
not
stuck
out
there
and
never.
Never,
but
I
really
am
NOT
I
think
we
could
go
ahead
and
do
that
and
not
put
them
on
pause
and
I
appreciated
your
suggestions.
A
A
F
You
just
okay,
so
so
what
I
mean?
There's
one
thing:
it's
not
having
the
meet
at
all.
The
other
is
to
have
luck
the
meet,
but
have
them
focus
on
this
and
not
do
anything
more,
that's
related
to
going
out
into
citizens
or
anything
that
they're
doing
not
posting
on
anywhere
and
I'm.
Just
really
focusing
on
this.
While
we
also
have
some
focus
within
our
staffing
for
it,
that
would
not
be
a
it's
not
a
shutting
down.
F
That's
never
what
I
intended
it
was
really
to
try
and
create
something,
and
if
they
could
be
a
part
of
it.
That's
helpful.
I
would
love
to
see
some
other
input
by
others.
If
we
can
have
it,
people
have
been
on
things
so
I,
don't
know
what
what
do
you
think
about
that
customer
wink,
Thank,
You,
meryt,
I.
N
F
Gonna
I'm
gonna
just
go
down
around
and
say
supportive
of
one
way
or
another
sometime
requester.
Well,
how
would
you
like
to
see
this
play
out
options
when
we're
down
there?
Well,
one
would
be
to
do
a
complete
pause
until
you
know
till
we
can
get
some
attorney
work
on
this
and
some
staffing
on
it
and
other
would
be
to
let
them
continue
to
meet,
but
not
do
any
kind
of
work
that
they've
been
traditionally
doing,
because
it
may
be
overstepping
some
of
the
boundaries
I.
Don't.
H
I
the
pause,
I
I,
don't
feel
that
we
have
clear
directive
on
here's.
How
we're
gonna
resolve
this
in
the
next
two
months.
I
feel
that
that
pause.
It's
an
idea
that
it
I
don't
see
how
we
get
to
the
end
of
the
road,
however,
clearly
defined
here's
our
end
of
the
road
on
that
having
them
meet
it
just
just
discuss
the
matters
at
hand.
I-It's
trikes
me
I
feel
like
we're
in
a
place
that
I
assume
maybe
has
really
been
before.
H
Have
we
done
this
before
with
the
committee
where
we
say
you
guys
meet,
but
you
don't
discuss
any
matters
that
are
your
purview
and
you
just
discuss
what
is
wrong
with
code
and
that's
I
mean
I
feel
like
we're
getting
in
a
really
weird
place.
With
this
particular
board,
I
mean
and
I'll
tell
you
should
be
told.
I
got
a
full-court
press
today.
I
know
this
particular
committee
I'm
still
leaning
towards
we.
H
M
I'm
not
sure
of
the
specifics
they're
working
on
or
if
they
have
deadlines
that
they're
already
working
on,
like
maybe
for
the
citizen
magazine
or
citizen
outreach,
or
things
like
that,
but
I
would
prefer
to
not
just
maybe
divert
them
to
talk
about
something
else
and
just
totally
just
pause
for
the
moment.
But
I
agree
that
we
need
to
flesh
out
what
we're
gonna
accomplish
during
this
reset
periods
so
that
it's
clear
to
us.
M
F
D
Think
I
was
clear
that
I
am
for
a
pause
and
from
the
sound
of
the
city
attorney.
It
sounds
like
we
can
get
this
done
pretty
quickly
within
a
1
or
2
month.
Time
I
think
you
said
two
months
was
the
comment
that
you
mentioned,
but
I
think
our
specific
boundaries
and
the
scope
of
the
committee
that
we
do
need
to
outline
within
that
time.
F
B
B
B
I've
talked
to
a
majority
of
this
board
and
they
get
along
better
than
we
do
they
like
each
other.
They
respect
each
other
and
they
get
along
and
I
am
going
to
differ
on
the
side
of
that.
This
is
a
bunch
of
volunteer
citizens
that
are
doing
a
good
job
that
respect
each
other,
have
conversations
with
each
other
disagree
with
each
other
and
are
still
able
to
like
each
other
and
function
together
and
I.
Think
that
they're
doing
a
great
job
so
absolutely
not
I,
don't
want
to
pause
them
all.
F
Right
I
think
some
of
the
comments
that
you
would
just
some
heat
comes
from.
A
parent
I
know
pushed
me
over,
they
had
to
say.
Maybe
we
do
need
a
pause
every
set
time
and
let's
set
it
for
a
six-week
period
if
we
can
get
it
and
partly
because
I
think
that
we're
okay
with
violating
charter
to
the
level
that
we
are
when
we're
involved
with
the
police
officers
and
videotaping,
really
concerns
me
that
we
don't
see
that
as
an
issue
of.
F
B
F
F
It's
not
a
vital.
It
was
my
time
to
talk
in
this
happens
a
lot.
This
happens
a
lot
councilmember,
Barrentine,
I,
think
I.
Think
we
take
a
pause.
We've
got
four
people
who,
and
we
can
talk
about
it
at
the
regular
meeting.
If
we
need
to
make
a
decision,
if
that
feels
better
for
everybody
to
again
have
it
in
there,
but
I
would
assume
we
have
a
directive.
Ask
staff
without
needing
to
go
in
there.
F
B
B
Citizen
initiative
that
was
passed
that
somehow
made
it
impossible
for
our
inglewood
police
department
to
go
ahead
and
dress
a
car
parked
over
72
hours
on
a
street
since
I
was
one
of
the
authors
of
that
I
can
tell
you
that
that
has
absolutely
nothing
to
do
with
any
public
property.
It
was
only
private
property
that
that
addressed
and
so
I'm
a
little
confused.
So
if
I
could
get
some
feedback
or
understanding
on
why
that's
being
provided
I
can
certainly
provide
the
city
attorney
or
to
the
city
manager.
B
B
The
DDA
that
we
got
in
the
council
request
from
councilmember
Martinez
I
would
hope
that
everybody
would
read
that.
But
I
would
also
like
the
council
as
part
of
that
process,
for
this
Downtown
Development
Authority,
which
is
similar
to
an
urban
renewal
authority
that
has
the
same
eminent
domain
and
ability
to
TIF
and
take
divert
taxpayer
money
away
for
some
history.
Information
on
the
trolley
square.
B
So
if
we
could
get
that
information,
oh
and
then
the
financial
loss
issue
that
came
up
I
looked
over
those
documents
and
it
doesn't
look
like
Vicki
Hoffman
when
she
brought
up
that
our
investments
are
losing
about.
You
know
three
to
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
on
a
regular
basis,
reporting
periods,
the
documents
that
I
kind
of
looked
at
that
she
had
done
in
her
request.
It
does
look
like
we're
losing
some
money,
so
I
would
like
to
get
some
and
I
know
that
councilmember
Ciara
had
asked
about
this
as
well.
B
So
if
we
could
get
a
little
bit
update
on
the
investments
and
what's
going
on,
if
this
inaccurate
and
I,
then
somebody
could
just
point
it
out
and
raw
be
the
smarter
for
it.
And
if
it
is
that
we're
losing
money,
then
we
need
to
decide
to
reinvest
differently
and
then
the
missing
employees
one
so
that
I
mean
I
was
concerned
when
they
said
that
there
were
that
many
employees
that
were
kind
of
leaving
and
all
of
a
sudden.
It
came
to
my
attention.
There's
the
last
couple
of
weeks.
B
It's
several
more
employees
have
left
and
I
would
like
to
know
what
or
how
we're
going
to
be
notified.
When
we
have
somebody,
especially
somebody,
is
in
the
Director
position,
who's
on
an
extended
leave
that
somehow
counts
will
be
notified
without
violating
anybody's
medical
leave
or
HIPPA
stuff.
But
we
still
should
know
that
somebody
isn't
here
and
if
somebody
is
no
longer
in
a
position
and
I'm
telling
somebody
to
call
somebody
and
then
I've
got
somebody
calling
me
back
going,
they
were
fired.
B
That
doesn't
make
me
look
very
good
that
I'm
telling
somebody
this
is
the
person
who's
handling.
This
talked
to
them,
or
this
is
how
you
you
go
through
this
process
and
then
find
out
that
the
person
is
no
longer
here.
So
if
we
could
have
some
kind
of
regular
communication
so
that
we're
made
aware
of
who
our
staff
is
and
who
our
employees
are,
I
think
that
would.
B
H
B
Because
I
had
I
bring
that
up
as
an
example,
because
that
was
one
that
got
brought
to
my
attention
by
the
public
and
then
found
out
that
he
had
already
been
out
out
for
four
weeks
prior
to
that
without
the
council
knowing
and
would
be
in
until
the
end
of
this
month.
So
just
a
regular
chain
of
command
or
communication
things.
I
H
Thank
you,
the
finances
they
came
up
in
the
city's
portfolio.
I
read
that
a
little
bit
differently.
You
know
in
to
folks
made
statements
regarding
we
suffered
losses
in
2018
and
according
to
the
information
we
were
given,
the
funds
were
held
in
lower
securities,
59
million
of
them,
which
yielded
a
1.7
0.6
percent
return,
and
then
the
remaining
27
million
yielded
2.48.
So
I
don't
expect
these
investments
to
gain
every
day.
H
It's
these
are
financial
markets,
but
on
the
year
they
both
gained
money,
and
so
I
think
this
is
worth
having
a
more
broad
discussion
on
it.
Just
so,
everybody
has
an
understanding
of
where
these
markets
are
and
where
investments
are
as
well,
because
I
the
information
I
was
presented
comes
across
differently
than
the
understanding
of
others,
so
I
think
it'd
be
good.
If
we
got
onto
the
same
page
there,
the
next
one
was
the
Museum
of
Art's
lease.
Have
we
heard
back
on
them.
F
G
F
I
H
Very
good,
thank
you.
There
is
the
manner
the
house
at
48,
88
Washington,
and
you
provided
some
information.
It
sounds
like
there's
a
few
things
in
motion
and
so
I
will.
You
know
just
I'll
wait
to
see
how
those
unfold
but
I
do
appreciate
you
folks,
providing
some
more
information
there
and
the
final
one
was
that
I
got
it.
You
know
in
the
time
that
we
were
speaking
of
the
courses
that
were
offered
by
development
regarding
understanding
the
conference
a
plan.
It
sounds
as
though
the
links
are
broken
awesome.
Thank
you.
H
M
F
Thank
you
I
appreciate
the
conversations
tonight.
I
think
we've
got
some
great
ideas
on
how
to
do
some
restructuring
of
our
meetings
a
bit
to
make
them
a
little
bit
more
efficient
I
agree
with
councilmember
questa
that,
in
light
of
the
way
in
which
people
do
read
the
finances
and
the
losses,
it's
always
surprising
to
me.
It's
just
quite
we
all
read
budgets
differently
and
have
different
past
experiences,
so
I
think
for
the
sake
of
making
it
really
clear
to
all
of
us
and
how
it's
being
interpreted
and
how
it's
being
used
to
be
good.
F
To
put
it
on
at
some
point
where
we
can
and
study
such
them
and
and
try
and
get
on
the
same
page,
could
I
ask
a
question:
would
that
be
appropriate
for
a
regular
monthly
finance
report
to
make
that
point
a
topic,
or
would
you
like
it
to
be
a
separate
topic?
Oh
I
I
would
love
it
like
that.
If
we
always
could
do
a
little
bit
of
that
and
I
think
that's
part
of
the
problem
is
that
we
read
it
on
the
day
and
bingo
goodness,
and
we
don't
realize
over
time
how
this
works.
N
B
B
And
then,
maybe
to
what
the
mayor
is
asking
for,
have
it
be
a
little
piece
of
financials
in
the
future,
but
at
least
for
some
piece
of
it,
it's
got
to
be
able
to
better
explain
we're
talking
with
people
who
aren't
exactly
financially
ignorant
and
if
they,
if
it's
being
handled
differently,
this
is
different,
then
maybe
we
can
explain
it
so
that
they
have
a
level.
That's
fine.
Thank
you.
F
F
B
J
F
F
So
I
just
would
like
to
have
that
I,
don't
know,
let's
try
a
monthly
one
and
see
what
happens
when
was
there.
It
seems
like
we
haven't
done
a
budget
warning
right
now,
we'll
get
updated
with
into
the
units
great
the
one
thing
that
council
member
I
think
Martinez
might've
brought
up
is,
or
maybe
it
was
weighing
about
council
requests
and
having
a
better
format.
F
You
talked
about
the
we
used
to
have
these
tablets
that
we
had
at
our
in
there
and
here
that
we
just
would
write
things
up
and
hand
them
to
the
city
manager
all
the
time
that
that
became
archaic
and
people
are
writing,
notes
on
them
rather
than
out
sort
of
gross
and
the
staff
stop
doing
that.
But
if
there
is
a
way
that
you
think
we
can't
collect
these
in
a
in
a
more
efficient
way
in
your
thinking
of
it.
F
What
it's
let
us
know
and
we
can
send
out
you
all
and
you
can
say
yeah
I,
think
that'd
be
a
better
way,
but
otherwise
I
just
think
we
yeah
shoot
email
towards
the
city
manager
and
one
of
the
things
that
we've
I
think
we've
told
her
and
counsel
or
director
said
this
before
to
she
will
let
us
know
if
it's
if
it's
gonna
take
a
while,
so
that
we
don't
expect
it
the
next
day
cuz.
Some
things
do
take
a
lot
longer
and
hopefully
we've
given
her
the
voice
to
do
that.
I.