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E
A
Thank
you,
remember,
green
and
vice
chair
green.
I
have
not
received
your
oaths
of
office
and
I've
sent
it
to
you
a
couple
of
times
and
I
really
need
that
back.
A
A
A
F
A
Are
aboard
underneath
city
council,
you
have
to
fill
out
one
as
well.
D
You
know
maureen
in
the
past
when
before
covet
ever
hit,
when
boards
and
commissions
were
appointed,
we
used
to
do
it
in
person.
City
council
does
in-person
both.
I
believe,
when
we're
elected
and
then
installed.
A
And
and
you're
also
sworn
into
office,
which
is
the
same
thing
as
an
oath
of
office
right
you're
sworn
into
office
by
a
judge,
it's
the
same
exact
thing
as
an
oath
of
office
and
because
the
code
enforcement
advisory
council
is
a
council
established
by
english
city
council.
You
also
have
to
follow
all
of
the
rules
that
they
have
to
follow,
including
open
meeting
law
and
signing
an
oath
of
office.
A
F
You
think
that
it
was
fulfilled
by
like
when
I
was
appointed
to
the
board
of
adjustment
and
appeals.
Each
time
I
would
show
up
to
a
city
council
meeting,
and
then
I
think
everyone
may
have
like
raised
their
hand
and
said
an
oath
is
that
what
qual
qualified
as
this
same
thing
previously
and.
G
G
F
G
H
Yeah
I
I
apologize
y'all
if,
for
some
reason
I
I
in
the
past
those
had
been
forwarded
to
me
and
recently
those
I
have
not
received
them,
but
that's
we're
in
a
bit
of
a
weird
area
right
now,
so
I
apologize
but
yes
kelly.
You
are
correct.
I
have
given
that
form
and
read
the
form
to
all
of
you
in
the
past
and
we've
done
it
during
meetings.
When
we've
had
new
members,
I've
done
it
just
outside
with
people
viewing.
So
yes,.
B
A
So
we
chairman
bowden
aye
here
vice
chair,
green.
B
Okay,
thank
you
and
before
we
proceed
to
agenda
item
number
two,
I
would
like
to
amend
our
agenda
for
today.
Item
number
eight
unfinished
business.
I
would
like
to
start
with
an
update
on
our
proposed
code
changes
to
tree
and
shrub
and
we've
got
a
council
request.
So
I'd
like
to
cover
that
with
you
all
before
we
get
into
proposed
programs
and
recommendations.
B
Okay,
so
approval
of
minutes
from
our
august
meeting
do
would
someone
please
move
to
approve?
F
C
G
Yeah
I'd
like
I
actually
as
the
nature
of
a
question
always
before
when
we
amended
anything
in
the
minutes,
it
was
noted
in
the
written
minutes
and
this
time
the
amendments
on
a
couple
of
things
were
not
noted,
and
do
we
need
to
do
that?
We
have
in
the
past.
B
Maureen
I
mean
my
recollection
is
that
we
amend
the
minutes,
but
the
amendment
to
the
minutes
don't
necessarily
go
into
the
minutes.
A
B
Right,
it
was
the
the
request
to
suspend
the
june
meeting
yeah
july
meeting
or
july
meeting
cohen.
You
brought
that
up,
but
we
when
we
went
back
through
the
minutes,
it
was
in
there
that
we
I
had
recommended
and
we
voted
to
cancel
the
july
meeting.
G
Well,
that
wasn't
the
only
thing,
but
all
right,
whatever
it's
just
always
been
stated
whatever
it
was.
The
amendment
as
stated
was
always
put
in
before.
Okay.
G
Well,
we
amended
the
memo
and
the
the
amendments
weren't
aren't
stated.
G
C
F
B
B
B
H
Hi
everyone,
I
won't
be
able
to
say
I'm
actually
at
my
state
certification,
training
this
week,
so
I'll
be
able
I'll
need
to
hop
off
after
this
update
to
attend
a
function
tonight.
H
So
the
significant
events-
one
there
there's
a
couple
of
council
requests
that
were
sent
forward
that
are
important
for
you
all
to
go
back
and
review.
One
was
related
to
animal
bites
within
our
parks,
and
that
was
as
a
larger
conversation
related
to
the
off
leash
recommendations
and
city
council.
This
last
monday,
there's
another
one
that
was
requested
for
some
specific
data
related
to
contacts
at
at
jason
park,
so
those
were
made
of
the
code
enforcement
division
and
provided
so
that
information
is
all
available
to
you.
H
The
other
aspect
is:
we
have
now
received
training
related
to
the
new
rms,
the
police
data
reporting
system,
where
we're
able
to
build
reports,
and
so
we
continue
to
work
on
that,
so
that
I
can
provide
you
the
most
accurate
information
that
our
new
system
would
allow
us
to
do.
We've
been
pulling
some
data
and
we're
weeding
some
of
it
out
we're
seeing
that
the
way
we're
creating
some
of
our
back-end
report
requests
is
duplicating
stuff.
H
City
council,
on
monday,
some
recommendations
were
made
related
to
off-leash
usage
and
uses
usages
within
our
parks.
I
would
encourage
you
all
to
review
that
it
is
going
before
council.
I
don't
have
that
date.
Maybe
councilmember
russell
can
can
give
that
to
you
as
to
when
that's
going
to
be
on
the
agenda.
H
H
H
The
recommendation
packet
we
went
park
by
park,
each
council
member
evaluated
the
park
recommendations
based
off
of
not
just
only
the
the
off-leash
task
force
as
part
of
the
parks
and
recreation
committee,
but
also
that
off-leash
subgroup,
which
monica
on
this
board
was
a
part
of
and
making
those
final
recommendations
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
those
questions
or
I
can
give
you
some
highlights
it's
whatever.
You
would
like
from
me
at
this
time.
B
H
So
I
first
and
foremost
I
do
want
to
say
that
there
was
not
an
overwhelming
majority.
Each
park
had
slightly
different
opinions
and
views,
but
it
finally
came
to
some
compromises
from
council
and
maybe
at
council
member
russell's
point
she
can.
She
can
talk
to
you
more
about
that
centennial
park.
It
was
decided
that
centennial
park
and
that
seemed
to
be
a
little
bit
more
unanimous
than
the
others
is
going
to
be
removed
as
an
off-leash
designated
park.
H
It
will
be
on
leash
only
the
other
highlight-
and
this
was
also
more
of
a
consensus-
was
the
off-leash
hours
for
designated
parks
was
going
to
be
the
same
throughout
the
year,
because
that
seemed
to
be
one
of
the
most
confusing.
It
also
took
up
a
considerable
amount
of
enforcement
time,
and
so
it
was
decided
that
we
would
keep
the
summer
hours
all
year,
so
that
would
no
off.
We
should
any
designated
park
between
11am
and
6pm.
H
Some
fencing
will
be
added
to
jason
park.
That
would
delineate
the
lineage
and
the
usage
areas
and
it
kind
of
goes
along
a
natural
area
where
the
playgrounds,
the
structure,
the
picnic
structure,
the
basketball
courts
and
a
smaller
little
area
field
to
the
south
was
going
to
be
fenced
off
from
the
north
side.
And
then
during
any
types
of
games
or
rental
of
the
fields,
a
temporary
fence
would
be
erected
a
movable,
temporary
fence
with
access
and
clear
signage
and
possibly
flagging,
would
be
erected
and
removed.
H
For
those
types
of
events
for
the
north
western
side,
which
is
the
one
of
the
largest
it
is,
the
largest
field
in
inglewood
duncan
park
was
also
going
to
be
separated.
It
kind
of
has
a
natural
separation
now
with
the
fence
between
the
play
area
and
structures
from
the
southern
area,
where
there's
a
small
field
for
some
of
the
smaller
younger
kind
of
games,
but
it
would
still
be
allowed
to
be
the
off-leash
area.
H
It
is
not
limiting
the
park
usage
for
dogs,
it's
just
delineating
which
areas
are
going
to
be
off-leash
and
then
the
other
areas
will
be
on
leash
at
all
times.
So
it
allows
unleash
dog
users
to
use
that
area.
Kids,
families
picnics.
It
also
allows
you
sports,
as
well
as
the
off-leash
usage
emerson
park,
and
this
was
also
along
the
lines
of
being
almost
unanimous.
H
Staff
was
asked
to
go
back
and
all
of
council
asked
that
staff
evaluate
the
licensing
program
for
off
leash,
similar
to
boulder
and
other
communities
where
you
would
be
required
to
have
a
license
to
participate
in
those
off-leash
locations
to
offset
some
of
the
maintenance
expenses,
as
well
as
a
potential
enforcement,
and
to
enhance
our
amenities
cushing
park.
H
H
I
think
that's
all
of
the
final
recommendation.
Staff
was
also
tasked
with
looking,
and
this
was
council
member
russell's
request.
Then
I
think
it
is
a
very
valid
and
fair
request
of
staff
to
go
back
and
evaluate
if
we
can
utilize
fields
in
other
areas
and
potentially
renegotiate
an
iga
with
the
high
school
so
that
we
can
attend
potentially
utilize
those
fields
taking
some
of
the
burden
away
from
a
couple
of
the
off-leash
fields
that
are
currently
rented
frequently.
G
Yeah
I
have,
but
I
have
a
question
about
the
rms:
when
are
we
going
to
be
able
to
get
information
from
that
and
are
we
going
to
be
able
to
get
breakdown.
H
G
H
G
Well,
actually,
the
code
says
the
city
council
determines
the
fees.
H
G
Okay,
well
then,
maybe
we
need
to
change
the
code
because
it
does
say
the
city
or
authorized
designee
shall
maintain
a
record.
H
That
would
be
the
city
court,
so
it's
being
I
hear
what
you're
saying
it
is
being
maintained
by
the
city
court.
G
Yeah
but
that's
not
a
designee
of
the
city
of
the
city
manager,
but
and
he
can't,
according
to
everybody,
hands
off
the
court.
So
I
don't
know
I
just.
H
G
G
B
G
And
so,
apparently,
to
be
consistent,
we're
gonna
need
to
at
least
recommend
that
they
get
rid
of
with
all
fees
collected.
F
No
problem,
thanks
for
becoming
code
manager,
louis,
even
though
you're
in
training,
I
had
a
couple
questions,
so
you
mentioned
the
council
requests
that
were
made
that
affect
us.
Where
do
I
look
for
that?.
H
If
you'll
go
to
the
website
and
under
government,
I
believe
you
scroll
down
to
city
council,
or
it
actually
might
have
a
I'm,
not
able
to
bring
it
up
right
now.
It
actually
says
rev,
council
requests,
it
has
like
agenda
and
minutes
and
council
requests
in
that
area,
as
well
as
newsletters
packets
that
go
to
city
council.
All
of
that
information
is
right
available
on
the
website.
Okay,.
H
They
are
they're
organized
by
the
date
of
release.
Stop
usually
has
seven
days
to
respond
sometimes
longer
if
it
takes
research.
I
can
tell
you
that
these
would
have
been
submitted
on
friday
and
one
went
through
the
system
on
monday
and
I
think
the
other
one
might
have
as
well.
I
have
not
looked
today,
so
I
don't
see
the
dates
posted,
but
they
are
the
in
the
most
recent
okay.
F
Thank
you
and
then
can
you.
I
didn't
totally
understand
what
you
were
saying
about.
The
the
licensing
so
was
that
just
a
staff
question
to
look
into
the
possibility
of
the
voice,
control
type
licensing
like
boulder.
H
So
it
was
a
recommendation
done
by
the
parks
and
recreation
off
leash
committee.
It
was
a
recommendation
that
was
made
by
the
task
force
where
we
had
the
mediator
that
monica
was
a
part
of,
and
maybe
she
can
talk
about
that
as
well.
It
was
also
a
response
from
the
inglewood
off
leash
association.
They
were
one
that
was
asking
for
that
to
help
increase
amenities
and
make
sure
maintenance
is
taken,
care
of
and
enforcement
is
properly
paid
for,
so
it
was
one
that
they
they
actually
had
recommended.
F
H
H
Correct
so
it
was
part
of
the
process
over
the
last
two
years,
and
council
wants
to
see
more
information
on
that
it
wasn't.
We
are
not
able
to
present
that
on
monday,
because
it
is
a
very
complex
issue
that
will
have
to
come
forward
in
a
future
study
session
to
present
that
information,
and
I
don't
anticipate
that
coming
in
the
next
couple
months.
I
think
that
that's
something
that's
a
little
bit
more
down
the
road,
because
it
does.
It
will
take
an
entire
part
of
a
study
session
to
present
that.
F
H
H
So
we'll
be
doing
we'll
bring
it
forward
in
in
two
parts.
One
of
that
has
been
related
to
the
use
of
off-leash,
so
we'll
present
it
as
to
costs
how
it
how
it
happens.
Why
we're
doing
it
a
cost
associated
for
englewood
residents,
as
well
as
senior
at-risk
people,
discounts
along
with
non-english
residents,
who
utilize
our
facilities,
their
fees
and
then,
as
part
of
that,
we'll
be
doing
also
bringing
forward
a
licensing
related
to
pets,
and
so
that
would
be
another
aspect,
and
just
so
you
are
all
aware.
H
The
state
legislation
is
also
bringing
forward
next
year,
mandatory
rabies,
vaccination
for
the
entire
state
and
registration.
So
that's
that's
going
to
be
in
line
with
that
as
well.
H
H
F
So
when
we
talked
about
this
last
time,
you
said
that
the
there
was
the
only
interest
in
a
general
licensing
program
was
for
potentially
dis,
segregating
or
distinguishing
between
inglewood
residents,
using
off-leash
facilities
and
non-inglewood
residents,
using
off-leash
facilities
and
some
payment
aspect
of
that
and
that
that
had
been
dropped
and
that
that
wasn't
wasn't
something
that
was
moving
forward.
But
that's
changed
now.
H
So,
in
the
final
recommendations
from
the
off
leash
task
force,
this
is
where
it
became
confusing
and
it
was
confusing
for
council
as
well.
Is
there
two
recommendations
that
came
forward?
One
was
from
the
parks
and
recreation
committee
and
one
was
from
a
specific
task
force
that
involved
different
stakeholders,
including
a
member
from
this
committee.
H
So
the
recommendation
from
the
off-leash
task
force
with
the
stakeholders
was
to
move
forward
with
licensing,
and
so
that
was
presented
as
part
of
the
package
to
council
and
they're.
Just
asking
that
we
present
more
information
to
them
related
to
both.
H
C
F
Okay,
thank
you
and
then,
in
regard
to
jason,
fencing
will
be
added.
Is
that
just
a
fence
wall
or
is
it
a
fenced
in
circle.
H
F
B
Code
manager,
lewis,
I
had
a
question
so
other
than
potential
licensing
for
dogs.
That
would
require
a
change
to
ordinances.
Is
it?
Was
there
anything
else
with
the
parks
off
leash
tax
task
force
that
would
affect
code.
H
No
code
other
than
like
the
licensing
part.
There
is
no
code
adaptation.
It
would
be
done
as
a
resolution,
because
a
lot
of
this
falls
under
the
park,
rules,
usage
and
particles
regulations.
So
that
would
be
coming
forward
as
a
resolution
to
council.
H
So
the
the
biggest
thing
and
what
my
what
the
industry
is
asking
for
as
well
as
communities
as
you
know,
we
we
have
to
register
dangerous
dogs,
adjudicated
dangerous
dogs
in
the
in
the
city
of
inglewood,
but
we're
unable
to
track
any
of
those
dogs
statewide.
So
we're
asking
that
the
state
adopt
a
registry
statewide,
so
that
communities
have
the
ability
to
review
dogs,
and
this
would
also
be
part
of
any
responsible
licensing
program
or
moving
into
a
city
where
we
can
track
these
dogs.
H
H
I
am
so
some
of
you
may
know
that
I
was
the
former
president
before
a
recent
merge
of
the
colorado
association
of
animal
control
officers
and
I.
H
I
do
serve
currently
on
the
advocacy
committee
that
involves
animal
welfare
and
stakeholders,
and
so
we
had
this
conversation
yesterday
and
a
very
in
our
succession
planning
and
our
strategic
plan
for
the
board
for
the
statewide
board
of
animal
welfare
associations,
and
so
I
serve
as
the
one
of
the
representatives
for
the
animal
control
industry.
H
I
sat
on
the
board
with
animal
sheltering
animal
rescue
and
the
animal
veterinary
services,
and
so
it's
a
statewide
organization
that
that
advocates
for
animal
welfare
over
multiple
different
disciplines,
and
so
this
last
year,
the
last
legislation
thing
that
we
passed
was
sheltering
and
we
also
increase
the
authority
for
the
statewide
certification
for
bureau,
of
animal
protection
that
clearly
identifies
code,
animal
welfare
officers
as
limited
peace
officers.
B
G
H
So
I
don't
have
any
of
that
information
to
provide
you
if
that
is
a
request
that
the
chair
would
like
to
send
me,
I'm
happy
to
prepare
and
show
you
the
health
department
for
the
state,
all
the
rabies
cases
they
actually
have
on
the
health
department.
You
can
even
go
to
tri
county
health
department.
They
have
a
very
robust
map
of
all
of
the
rabies
cases
within
the
state
of
colorado.
G
H
F
F
I
just
was
curious
and
took
a
look
at
what
code
manager
lewis
told
us
about,
and
there
is
a
ton
of
data
about
rabies
by
species
and
year
and
everything
I
and
remember,
dickerson
what
I
think
you
might
be
thinking
of,
because
I
think
I've
heard
this
too
is
there
hasn't
been
a
human
case
of
rabies
in
a
really
long
time.
That's
recorded,
but
I
think
in
animals
it's
not
infrequent
squirrels
and
stuff
too.
G
Well,
those
yes
but
canine,
rabies,
actual
dogs.
I've
heard
that
there
was
a
reputed
case
of
two
dogs
in
2006
in
colorado,
but
it
wasn't
verified
because
it
was
in
a
rural
area
and
the
dogs
were
strays,
but
otherwise
the
reports
nationwide,
where
there
hasn't
been
a
verified
case
of
rabies
in
pet
dogs
for
over
20
years,
statewide.
G
B
D
So
code
manager
lewis
did
a
great
job
of
summarizing
the
off-leash
discussion.
I
would
encourage
you
all
to
it
that
part
of
the
study
session
was
two
hours,
so
it
was
pretty
detailed
and
involved,
and
I
mean
consensus
was
taken.
D
It
actually
could
change
as
far
as
the
date
when
it's
coming
back
to
council,
I'm
not
sure
I
was
assuming
that
it
would
be
next
monday
for
approval.
But
if
it's
not
next
monday,
perhaps
the
first
council
meeting
in
october,
but
I
will
have
to
check
on
that.
I
have
the
schedule
here,
but
it's
so
little
and
I
don't
have
a
magnifying
glass
right
now,
so
I
I
will.
D
I
could
get
back
to
you
later.
So
there's
that
and
let's
see
there
was
one
other
thing
that
dave.
D
Said
that
I
might
know
about,
I
don't
remember
what
it
was.
So
if
you
all
think
of
it,
the
the
other
thing
that
I
have-
and
I
know
that
you're
going
to
be
talking
about
this
tonight-
the
I
did
bring
forward
on
the
council
meeting
a
week
and
a
half
ago
and
then
council
wanted
to
see
the
memos.
D
I
saw
that
in
the
email
chain,
chair
bowden,
and
so
that
would
mean
and
basically
what
they
would
like
for
you
to
do
is
for
the
board
to
be
there
and
and
maybe
one
spokesperson,
whether
it's
the
chair
or
the
vice
chair
or
whoever
you
designate,
but
they
would
like
a
powerpoint
generated
of
the
memorandum
that
you
sent
forward.
So
I
I
think
just
keep
it
real
specific.
Then
I'm
pretty
sure
it
will
help
council
know
exactly
what
you
all
are
looking
for.
D
So
that's
the
member,
you
julie,
you
do
have
the
memorandum
right,
okay,
so
I
it's
the
information
in
there
and
what
and
what
you
want
to
do.
So.
The
memorandum
would
that
that
maureen
sent
to
council
that
will
come
forward
as
the
council
agenda
item
and
then
the
powerpoint
will
just
go
over
that
it.
D
Just
it
makes
things
easier
for
city
council
to
just
see
exactly
where
you
want
to
go,
and
so
I
I
don't
know
if
this
is
the
policy
that
that
you
all
normally
follow
or
that
your
bylaws
suggest
that
you
follow.
But
so,
if
we,
if
we
need
to
address
that
too,
I
mean
you
all
can
decide
decide
on
that.
But
I
think
this
time
you
should
just
go
ahead
and
and
do
this
that
would
that
would
be
helpful.
D
B
When
we
did
the
snow
and
ice
change
and
also
when
we
did
the
impoundment
change
for
animals,
that
was
the
process
that
we
followed.
We
sent
a
memorandum
council
invited
us
to
come
present.
We
came
and
presented,
they
asked
questions
and
then
moved
the
the
city
attorney
to
work
with
us
to
write
up
the
code
changes.
B
Okay.
So
so
we've
done
that's
what
we've
done
the
past
two
times
that
we
made
code
changes.
I
did
have
a
chance
to
look
at
that
section
of
the
city
council
meeting
from
monday
night
and
there
was
a
comment
that
mayor
olsen
made
that
we
do
it
different
every
time
in
terms
of
recommending
have
the
process
for
recommending
code
changes,
and
it's
been
my
experience
that
we've
done
it
the
same
every
time
right
you
had
any.
D
Insight
there,
I
I
don't
have
any
insight
there.
I
don't
think
that
I
think
what
you
have
said
is
accurate,
because
I
do
remember
you
know,
chair
walker,
coming
and
and
so
and
a
few
of
you
on
the
snow
and
ice,
and
then
I
do
remember
the
other
one
too.
So
I
think
it
has
been
the
same.
I
I
think
you
know
being
on
city
council.
It
can
get
confusing,
because
different
boards
do
different
things.
D
That
could
be
where
some
of
the
confusion
is.
I'm
you
know
I'm
just
not
sure
so.
D
Absolutely
so,
if
they're
and
I
oh-
I
do
kind
of
want
the
only
thing
I
really
wanted
to
address
like
jason
park,
and
I
got
a
call
today.
D
Basically,
what
they
are
suggesting
is
there
will
be
a
permanent
fence
from
the
parking
lot
back
by
the
playground
and
the
oh,
the
pavilion
back
there,
the
the
picnic
area
that
will
be
a
permanent
fence.
It's
probably
a
three
and
a
half
foot
fence
decorative,
so
it'll
just
separate
the
north
side
of
the
park
from
the
south
side
of
the
park.
D
Then,
on
the
north
west
side,
where
the
big
area
is,
there
will
be
a
temporary
fence
put
up
and
it's
what
we
were
told
last
or
on
on
monday,
was
that
they
will
put.
I
don't
know
what
you
call
them.
They
said
it's.
You
know
little
socket
type
things
in
the
ground
so
that
the
fence
will
go
in
to
that
it'll
be
a
place
where
they
can
put
up
the
post
and
the.
D
The
temporary
fence
so,
and
the
question
that
I
received
today
was:
does
that
mean
that
the
off-leash
people
could
not
go
in
that
area?
Even
you
know
if
there
was
nobody
there,
so
I
am
going
to
ask
that
question.
I
think
that
also
will
get
asked,
probably
whenever
it
comes
back
to
council,
but
so
we
will
see
how
this
works.
D
I
mean
it
was
suggested
that
maybe
we
look
at
this
a
year
from
now
it
probably
will
not
be
put
into
place
until
if
it
passes
when
council
votes
on
it,
it
won't
be
put
into
place
until
january,
and
so
there
really
will
not
be
any
impact
to
the
off-leash
people.
Until
then,
once
there
is
an
impact
to
them,
there
may
be
a
lot
of
pushback.
D
So
so
we'll
see
there
are
a
significant
number
of
off-leash
people,
especially
that
use
jason
park.
So
we
will
see
how
this
goes.
So
I
think
that
is
all
that
I
have
right
now.
So
if
there's
any
questions
that
I
would
be
able
to
answer,
colleen.
G
Yeah
about
that
no
change
to
the
summer
hours.
It
gets
dark
at
five
o'clock.
Are
they
going
to
light
the
park
so
that
we
can
run
our
dogs
and
play
catch
with
them
and
stuff.
D
I
am
not
sure
I
will
be
taking
notes
here
and
I
I
agree,
but
I
I
do
understand
this
is
one
of
the
things
that
I
was
open
to.
I
think
this
is
probably
one
of
the
compromises
that
perhaps
the
off-leash
people
will
be
open
to
because
it
does
when
you
change
the
hours
all
the
time
it
does
make
it
confusing
for
citizens
and
for
code
also
so
lighting
in
park.
D
I
will
put
that
down
as
a
question
so
because
I
do
believe
that
jason
park,
I'm
not
sure
there
is
any
lighting
at
jason
park,
maybe
around
the
picnic
pavilion,
but
I'm
not
sure
so
sorry.
I
can't
answer
that
question.
D
Okay,
are
you
frozen?
It
looks
like
she
is,
so
I
was
thinking
of
one
other
thing.
I
don't
remember
right
now,
so.
B
That's
pretty
funny,
thank
you,
council
person
russell.
Does
anyone
have
any
further
questions
for
rita?
Okay,
I
appreciate
all
the
detail
rita.
Thank
you
very
much
yeah.
So
we'll
move
forward
to
the
communications
subcommittee,
update
from
member
johnson.
E
Hello,
hello,
hopefully
you
have
all
been
seeing
the
posts
that
have
been
going
online,
that
is
kind
of
becoming
its
own
machine.
Now,
vanessa
davis
is
outstanding
and
she's
she's
picking
up
what
we're
putting
down.
E
So,
if
you
have
any
suggestions
for
things,
she
can
be
posting,
please
let
me
know
or
julie,
know
and
we'll
be
sure
to
relay
that
or
from
your
neighbors
and
in
our
next
magazine,
we'll
have
a
little
a
quarter
page
article
just
to
remind
people
of
the
snow
removal
ordinance
and
also
about
the
snow,
buddies
program,
and
I
think,
we'll
probably
you'll,
probably
see
social
media
to
that
effect
as
well
and
for
an
article
manager,
lewis
made
a
suggestion
of
talking
about
your
responsibility
with
your
trash
cans
and
and
especially
in
the
winter
when
plows
are,
are
going
and
and
it
I
think
he
said
something
about
animals
being
affected,
and
so
I
actually
need
to
get
that
submitted.
E
Which
means
I
need
to
do
a
little
research
on
it
myself,
but
I
mean
I
don't
know
about
you,
but
I've.
I've
seen
trash
cans
that
were
frozen
to
the
ground
for
like
weeks
yeah.
So
I
don't
know
if
that's
helping
anyone,
but
so
that's
our
topic
and
and
that's
about
all.
I
have.
B
Monica
is
there
one
more
edition
of
citizen
magazine
this
year.
Is
that
right
we
have
one
more
and
then
we're
into
22..
Okay,.
E
And
then
I
think
it's
going
to
be
emerald
ash
borer
all
the
way.
Okay,
entry
interrupt
code.
B
E
There's
been
some
there's
been
positive
feedback
people,
people
respond,
and
I
mean,
I
think
I
think
it's
getting
out
there
and
really.
The
whole
idea
of
it
is
to
create
an
appreciation
for
what
code
enforcement
does
and
to
let
people
know
that
they're
they're
they
provide
a
service
to
the
community
they're
not
there
to
have
to
just
to
hassle
you,
which
is
what
they
get
treated
like,
sometimes
so
right,
and
so
it
has
generated
some
positive
buzz.
E
B
Well,
in
general,
I've
noticed
with
englewood
communications.
It's
really
step
been
stepped
up,
I
mean
there's,
I
I
I'm
on
social
media,
both
with
instagram
and
twitter,
and
there
there's
just
a
lot
more
activity
and
the
the
city
is
a
lot
more
present
in
the
community,
because
it
it's
they've
done
a
nice
job.
Yeah.
E
G
F
Screen's
funky
yeah:
that's
because
I
was
doing
up
down
with
my
hand
the
can
you
explain
what
you
were
talking
about
with
the
trash
cans,
what
responsibility
with
trash
cans?
Well,.
B
F
B
I
would
say:
half
of
my
neighbors
are
required
to
move
their
trash
cans
to
the
front
of
their
house.
I,
my
80
year
old
neighbor,
has
to
take
her
trash,
can
from
the
back
yard
and
move
it
all
the
way
through
the
front
yard
and
down
the
steps
to
put
it
in
the
street.
I
mean
it
pains
me
to
watch
her.
Do
this
every
time.
B
Yes,
it
is
awful.
I
I
have
my
trash
picked
up
in
the
alley,
but
she
doesn't
have
a
way
to
get
it's
actually
easier
for
her
to
get
the
trash
can
to
the
street
than
it
is
to
get
it
up
a
hill
and
through
a
little
gate
into
the
alley,
but
she's,
not
the
only
one
that
that
has
their
trash
picked
up
on
the
curb
versus
the
alley.
D
So
I
just
you
know,
I
think
one
problem
that
we've
had
is
our
trash.
Hauler
is
not
picking
up
on
wednesday
and
then
we'll
get
an
email
they're
picking
up
on
thursday,
and
then
they
don't
come
on
thursday.
So
I
think
some
of
it
is
not
necessarily
the
citizens
fault,
so
I
don't
know
how
we
deal
with
that.
B
Rita
I've
had
the
same
experience
and
that's
exactly
what
happened
to
me
last
month.
They
they
missed
it.
They
told
me
they'd
pick
it
up
on
thursday,
then
they
told
me
they'd
pick
it
up
on
friday
and
they
never
picked
it
up
at
all.
The
good
news
is,
is
I
I
have
my
my
trash
collection
bill
has
been
lower
because
they
miss
me
so
many
times.
B
So
I'm
glad
to
hear
I'm
not
the
only
one
that
is
suffering
like
this.
I
unfortunately
I
don't
generate
that
much
trash
but
yeah.
I
think
it's
primarily
the
trash
cans
that
are
left
on
the
street,
carson
versus
the
ones
that
are
you
know,
on
the
side
of
the
property
in
the
alley
and.
E
F
I'm
the
chair
of
the
you
know:
citizens
considering
you
know
a
single
hauler.
F
The
rfp
has
been
put
out
the
one
that
so
originally
the
city
made
an
rfp,
and
then
our
committee
convened-
and
we
recommended
to
city
council
that
the
rfpb
rescinded,
because
it
wasn't
that
well
done
and
that
we
as
a
committee,
created
a
new
one.
And
then
we
went
through
that
whole
process.
And
now
the
rf,
the
new
rfp
was
just
issued.
So
there's
a
deadline
for
haulers
to
respond
to
it
and
then
we'll
start
convening
again
to
evaluate
the
responses.
B
Kind
of
solves
the
problem
there
right:
okay,
further
questions
from
member
johnson.
B
Oh
monica,
I
was
going
to
let
you
know
and
cohen
you
might
you
probably
remember
too.
I
think
we
did
an
article
on
trash
in
the
recent
years.
So
when
you
get
started
on
that,
I've
kept
all
the
articles
that
we've
done.
I
might
be
able
to
pull
that
up
for
you.
B
B
All
right,
thank
you.
Member
johnston,
for
all
you
do
with
communications.
You
guys
are
doing
a
great
job.
Thank
you.
Okay.
The
floor
is
now
open
for
a
motion
in
regard
to
new
business.
Does
anybody
have
any
new
business
topics
they
want
to
bring
up
cohen
according.
B
I
think
we
were
all
just
so
fresh
on
that
didn't
we
just
do
it
about
this
time.
Last
year
it.
G
B
B
Okay,
so
unfinished
business.
I
am
ended.
The
agenda
to
include
an
update
on
our
proposed
code
changes
for
tree
shrub
code,
as
as
rita
mentioned,
it
was
presented
to
council
and
they've,
asked
us
to
come
back
and
present
to
them.
Much
like
we
did
when
we
spoke
on
on
behalf
of
the
impoundment
change
and
also
on
snow
and
ice
removal.
B
So
what
we've
done
before
is
we
just
presented?
You
know
are
basically
our
business
case
for
why
we
were
adjusting
code
and
what
changes
we
were
recommending
again.
We
didn't
get
into
the
specifics,
but
we
got
into
the
general
area
of
things
needed
to
be
updated
and
a
powerpoint
generated,
and
I
think
our
the
the
memo
that
was
presented
to
city
council
is
pretty
comprehensive
and
has
has
the
the
the
the
you
know
the
the
meat
of
the
presentation.
B
Be
third,
okay,
great
I
I
would
appreciate
that
and
I
think
it
would
be
a
good
idea
for
anyone
who
was
able
to
attend,
to
attend
and
and
help
us
answer
questions,
and
so
because
of
all
the
reviews
that
have
are
in
place
for
city
council
materials.
F
B
F
B
Know
so
it's
going
to
be
presented
we'll
we'll
present
on
the
27th,
but
we
have
to
have
the
material
and
actually
it's
supposed
to
be
in
tomorrow
at
noon,
and
I
said
because
we
just
found
out
about
this
nice.
I
asked
for
an
extension,
since
there
was
no
way
I
knew
we
could
get
it
done
by
tomorrow
at
noon,
but
I'm
able
to
work
on
it
over
the
next
four
days.
B
Look
at
it
if
I
can
just
work
with
carson
and
cohen
on
that,
I
think
we'd
probably
have
a
have
a
pretty
good
coverage
for
the
topic.
A
C
B
G
Okay,
great
coin,
as
far
as
presentation,
you
remember
how
you
and
I
and
jerry
walker
did
the
presentation
before
the
study
session,
when
we
were
telling
them
what
we'd
been
doing
and
we
even
brought
up
trees
at
that
point,
jerry
said
something
he
introduced.
You
you
put
together
a
powerpoint
and
I
followed
up
with
some
specifics
and
I
think
that
would
be
an
absolutely
adequate
way
to
go
about
it.
They
responded.
G
Council
responded
very
well,
so
your
chair,
you
present,
you
can
do
the
pro
powerpoint,
then
carson
can
add
to
it
or
you
can
have
carson
present
the
powerpoint,
whatever
you
want
to
do,
and
I
can
point
out
a
few
specifics
or
go
over
in
detail
some
other
things
that
are
in
the
memo,
but
only
what's
in
the
memo
sure.
B
Okay,
well,
I
I
I
appreciate
the
help
and
that
when
we,
when
we
presented
when
jerry
you
and
I
presented
cohen,
that
was
when
we
provided
city
council-
an
annual
update
on
the
activities
of
our
committee.
I
don't
know
we
don't
do.
We
haven't
done
that
for
like
two
years,
but
that's
that's
what
that
one
meeting
was.
Is
we
had
to
demonstrate
to
city
council?
You
know
our.
B
Now
I
know
I
would
welcome
the
opportunity
to
share
with
them
what
we've
achieved.
I
also
did
get
some
so
carson
and
colleen.
I
will
follow
up
with
you
over
the
next
couple
of
days
on
a
draft
presentation
for
your
feedback.
A
Yes,
you
you've
got
exactly
10
minutes
on
the
council
communication
to
present
got
it
so
shall
I
put
all
three
of
you
down
as
presenters
or
how
do
you
want.
B
Great
thank
you
and
then
I
did
receive
a
note
from
dave
lewis
today
regarding
our
tree
city,
usa,
designation
and
inglewood
has
met
the
criteria
for
being
a
tree
city.
I
and
he
explained
that
one
of
the
questions
we
had
was
that
we're
supposed
to
have
a
board
on
all
items
related
to
parks,
open
space,
forestry
and
recreation,
and
that
our
inglewood
parks
and
recreation
commission
actually
serves
as
that
that
board.
B
So
we
have
met
the
criteria
and
then
we
have
an
email
from
the
colorado
colorado
state
forest
service
that
we
have
met
all
those
standards
and
we
once
again
for
the
36
year
in
a
row,
are
a
tree
city.
So
I'm
recommending
that
we
drop
anything
that
we
say
about
tree
city.
Since
we've,
we've
met
the
requirements
cohen.
G
It's
not
just
a
board,
it's
a
department,
somebody
with
authority
and
parks
and
rex
is
totally
uninterested
in
in
public
trees.
G
I
mean
they
haven't
done
anything
about
it
and
a
lot
of
the
trees
in
the
park
are
dying
and
the
only
thing
we've
got
is
dave,
lee
being
the
open
space
manager
and
restoring
the
department
would
be
a
big
help
and
that's
what
dave
lee
wanted
to
do
right
and
we
wanted
to
support
that.
So
I
don't
think
we
should
drop
it.
G
B
B
B
So
so
let
me
send
that
out
colleen.
I
think
that
you
know
the
fact
that
the
arbor
day
foundation
and
the
colorado
state
forest
services
has
has
recommended.
You
know
we,
we
we've
met
the
standard.
So
let
me
let
me
send
this
to
you,
so
I
I
I
don't.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
say
something
that
removes
us
from
that
designation,
but
according
to
dave
lee
and
the
arbor
foundation
and
the
colorado
state
forest
service,
we
do
meet.
The
requirements
for
tree
city
are.
G
B
Well
I'll
forward
this
to
you
all
after
the
after
we
get
done
tonight,
so
you
can
see
what
he
says
and
then,
if
you
have
any
questions
or
follow
up,
please
contact
me
individually.
Okay,
monica
you
have
your
hand
raised.
E
I'm
sorry
I
just
wanted
to
chime
in
as
a
member
of
the
parks
and
rec
committee.
We
care
very
much
about
trees
and
I'm
very
happy
to
bring
that
up
with
our
chair
on
that
committee
and
bring
it
to
the
fore.
If
that
helps.
B
Well,
I
feel
pretty
strongly
that
if
our
you
know
our
open
space
manager
who
works
with
those
two
groups
who
designate
cities
to
be
a
tree
city,
that
they've
all
said,
we
we
do
meet
the
qualifications
that
that's
that's,
that's
sufficient,
but
but
you
know
we
we
can
moving
forward.
If,
if
there
is,
if
we
still
see
a
gap
and
and
can
do
it
in
a
way
that
doesn't
bring
it
negative
attention
to
our
designation,
then
I
then
I'm
okay
with
it
carson.
You
did.
You
have
your
hand
raised.
F
B
E
G
You
know
reestablish
the
urban
department
and
he
did
say
that
you
know
that
council
gave
him
fifty
thousand
dollars
a
year
for
trees,
but
we
don't
have
any
way
of
knowing
how
it
went,
and
I
know
that
there's
an
awful
lot
of
trees
that
aren't
growing
in
the
parks,
at
least
over
at
bates
logan.
I
mean
several
trees
have
died
recently
and
they've
been
removed
and
a
lot
of
them
are
just
sitting
there
and
they
were
planted
20
years
ago,
and
they
are
still
only
about
that
big
around.
D
F
Seems
to
be
the
most
stringent
I
mean
to
meet
this
standard
each
year.
The
community
must
document
at
least
two
dollars
per
capita
toward
the
planting
care
and
removal
of
city
trees
and
the
planning
efforts
to
make
those
things
happen,
and
it
mentions
like
planning
and
accountability
and
like
so
I'm
just
curious.
If
that's.
F
B
So
I
don't
think
that
we're
saying
that
it's
done.
I
think
that
arbor
day
foundation
and
the
colorado
state
forestry
service
has
said
we
met
that
criteria.
B
Don't
submit
anything
so
I'll
forward
this
to
you,
because
he
he
does
state
re
address
that
rita.
Did
you
have
your
hand
raised.
D
I
did
and
what
I
do
know
that
we
put
I'm
pretty
sure
the
forestry
a
second
forester
is
in
the
budget
that
will
be
coming
forward.
I'm
pretty
sure
that
that
was
in
there.
So
there
is
that
piece
now.
As
far
as
the
other
thing
you
were
talking
about,
I'm
not
sure
I
mean
unless
arbor
the
arbor
tree
people
are,
you
know
providing
some
of
that.
I
don't
know
that
yeah.
So,
okay,
okay,
definitely
how
thank
you.
B
Okay,
all
right
so
I'll.
I
will
forward
this
email
from
dave
lee,
so
you
all
can
see
what
he's
what
he
said
and
then,
if
you
want
me
to
invite
him
to
our
next
meeting,
to
answer
those
questions
or
if
you
want
to
do
it
individually,
I'm
I'm
open
to
that
and
then
maureen.
I
think
we
have
a
mem
someone
from
the
public
attending
right
now.
A
We
do
I
just
sent
you
an
email
stating
that
so
I
don't
know
if
she
wants
to
speak
or
not,
but
she
was
unable
to
speak
previously,
so
I
made
her
a
panelist,
so
she
can't
speak
if
she'd
like
to
okay,
okay,.
B
Janice,
if
we
can
go
ahead
and
complete
this
current
agenda
item,
then
I'm
happy
to
make
a
room
for
you
on
our
agenda
after
that.
If
that
works,
for
you
we're
almost
done
with
this
section.
B
Okay,
so
that
was
item
number
eight
and
then
so
number
b
was
you
know
when
we
went
through
the
assessment
and
evaluation
and
identified
the
needs
of
both
the
city
and
the
residents
to
protect
our
tree
canopy,
we
identified
code
changes,
but
we
also
identified
some
other
things
that
the
city
could
do
to
help
residents
and
to
help
quickly
address
the
eab
infestation.
If
it
does
occur,
we
originally
looked
at
this
back
in
may
and
tabled
it
so
that
we
could
address
just
the
code.
B
G
We're
only
talking
about
code
changes,
I
don't
think
we
can
do
both
in
the
same
meeting-
okay
plus
whatever
that
was.
It
wasn't
republished
this
time.
So
I
don't
know
if
we
can
discuss
it
because
it's
not
in
the
packet
and
I've
forgotten
everything
about
it,
and
I
don't
think
we
should
be
discussing
anything
about
those
programs
without
having
them
before
us.
In
writing.
G
B
F
G
Haven't
we
already
done
that,
though,
in
what
we
considered
when
we
said
diversity
of
trees,
diversity
of
tree
planting
and
eab
considerations
right
so.
B
Some
of
them
disgusted
right.
So
some
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
were
arming
with
code
enforcement
with
some
material
about
eab
that
they
can
hand
to
residents
when
when
they
go
to
a
residence
to
talk
to
them
about
their
tree
situation,
another
one
was
to.
G
So
we
could
expand
in
that
area.
Why
we
want
that
purpose
to
put
in,
but
I
don't
think
is
a
separate
subject
it
should
we
should
go
any
farther
than
maybe
expanding
on
that
purpose.
B
G
G
We
made
a
very
brief
for
the
memo,
but
expand
upon
the
assistance
idea
assisting
why
we
need
to
have
this
purpose
and
why
we
need
city
council
to
incur
you
know,
consider
assisting
citizens
when,
with
the
eap
problem.
G
B
B
B
Okay,
so
maureen
you
have
your.
B
All
right,
all
right
so
with
that
we
can
move
forward
with
janice
janice.
This
is
an
opportunity
for
the
public
to
address
the
code
enforcement
advisory
committee.
We
expect
your
presentation
will
be
conducted
in
a
respectful
manner
and
committee.
Members
may
ask
you
questions
for
clarification.
B
B
B
For
example,
code
says
that
dogs
have
to
have
a
microchip
and
we
currently,
I
don't
think
we
currently
require
that.
So
let
me
let
me
kind
of
walk
you
guys
through
that
that
document,
if
you
can
bring
that
up.
B
One
thing
was
the
fine
specified
and
the
dangerous
dog
ordinance
is
what
we
talked
about
earlier,
that
the
court
levies
on
the
owner
of
the
dangerous
dog
that's
been
adjudicated
and
there's
question
on
what
that
fine
actually
is.
At
the
time
we
were,
we
were
learning
that
sometimes
the
fee
was
rate
was
waived.
B
I
understand
it's
not
waived
now,
there's
a
re
reflection
or
it
speaks
to
the
need
to
have
a
leash,
your
dog,
on
a
leash,
but
it
doesn't
clarify
what
kind
of
leash
that
a
dangerous
dog
would
be
on.
It
does
say
it
can't
be
any
longer
than
six
foot
feet
with
no
retractable
mechanism,
but
we
were
thinking
that
we
would
have
a
leash
that
would
also
be
identified
to
others
around
them
that
this
is
a
dangerous
dog,
something
other
than
I
mean.
There's,
there's
nothing
right
now.
B
If
you
have
a
dangerous
dog
and
go
to
a
and
are
walking
there
is
nothing
on
that
dog
that
identifies
any
to
anybody
around
them
that
it
has
been
adjudicated
as
a
dangerous
dog,
and
that
was
our
main
concern
is
when
the
dog
is
at
home.
There's
a
sign
on
the
home
that
says,
there's
a
dangerous
dog
here,
but
when
they
leave
the
house,
there's
nothing
on
the
dog
or
the
person
that
identifies
it,
and
that
was
one
of
the
things
that
we
were
looking
at.
B
Another
thing
was
the
there's
a
requirement
for
signage
on
property,
but
there's
no
specification
on
what
the
signage
says
and,
for
example,
you
know
we
were
asked.
We
wanted
to
say
something
about
a
dangerous
dog
on
the
premises,
but
there's
nothing
that
requires
those
words
to
be
used
right
now.
For
example,
the
dog
in
my
neighborhood
that
was
adjudicated
as
a
dangerous
dog
has
a
sign
that
says
beware
of
dog.
B
And
then
another
one
was
just
the
the
identification
of
of
the
dog
as
a
dangerous
dog.
In
addition
to
a
release,
they
could
have
some
type
of
vest
and
then,
lastly,
we
were
recommending
that
the
permit
fee
never
be
waived,
and
then
I
wanted
to
add
another
point
of
consideration
to
that
that
right
now,
when
there's
been
an
incident
with
the
dangerous
dog,
it
can
be
up
to
two
months
before
the
dog
has
been
adjudicated
as
dangerous,
and
my
question
to
dave
was
going
to
be
what
happens
in
that
two-month
time
frame.
B
G
Oh
yeah,
you
covered
all
the
issues,
but
I
had
I
had
some
notes
from
before
about
this,
and
one
of
the
things
is
that
there's
a
little
inconsistency
in
this
code
because
it
says
dangerous
animals
prohibited
but
they're
not
prohibited,
and
then
there's
dogs
and
cats
instead
of
domesticated
animals,
because
there
are
other
dangerous
animals
that
can
be
a
problem.
So
I
would.
G
I
would
suggest
that
one
of
the
things
we
do
is
wherever
it
says:
dog
and
cat
change
it
to
domesticated
animal
and
also
where
it
says
that
shall
also
be
muzzled.
Whenever
on
a
second
offense,
it
should
be
muzzled.
I
think
it
should
be
muzzled
immediately
if
it's
adjudicated
dangerous
of
the
first
offense.
G
There
should
be
a
muzzle,
and
I
think
we
need
to
write
that
into
the
code
and
that's
an
indication
right
there
that
the
dog
is
dangerous
right
and,
as
far
as
I
know,
what
you
said
that
the
building
or
the
enclosure
should
have.
It
actually
says
that
this
there
should
be
a
conspicuous
warning
sign
on
the
building
notifying
others
that
a
dangerous
animal
is
housed.
G
If
it's
been
adjudicated
dangerous,
you
need
to
say
that
I
agree
dangerous
animals,
so
I
think
we
could
change
that
wording,
change
dogs
and
cats
to
domesticated
animals,
because
there
are
other
dangerous
animals
that
are
in
the
city,
but
they
haven't
been
dealt
with.
G
And
and
you're
right,
the
code
does
not
say
anything
about
waivers,
so
why
do
they
have
this
form
an
application
to
waive
the
fee?
I
think
it
should
be
sh,
and
it
does
say
right
in
the
code-
shall
pay
a
permit
fee
so
for
them
to
waive
it
on
their
own
volition,
in
the
police
department
or
code
enforcement.
That
was
wrong.
They
shouldn't
have
been
allowed
to
do
that.
G
Well,
that
would
be
good
it's.
There
are
only
nine
now
10
dogs,
but
we
could
also,
instead
of
worrying
about
a
color
of
a
leash
or
whatever
indication
it
is
require
that
they
wear
a
harness
that
says
dangerous
animal
and
a
muzzle
on
a
first
offense,
because
that'll
be
an
immediate
signal.
B
Okay,
there
it's
it's
so,
as
you
can
see,
you
know
the
the
things
that
we're
looking
at
they're
pretty
specific.
Let
me
answer
a
couple
questions
here.
Maureen
you
had
your
hand
raised.
I.
A
Did
because
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
guys
would
like
to
schedule
a
workshop
to
go
through
this.
A
workshop
is
a
much
easier
and
not
restrictive
way
to
go
through
the
code
that
you
guys
want
to
change.
It
still
has
to
be
posted
as
an
open
meeting,
but
I
mean
it's
more
free
and
you
spend
all
the
time
just
on
that
one
subject.
B
That's
a
good
idea.
I
I
was
thinking
that
it
would
be
helpful
to
understand
from
dave
what
the
current
processes
are.
I
mean
I've
gotten
bits
and
pieces,
but
you
know
I'd
like
to
hear
you
know
why.
Why
is
it
you
know?
Do
we
not
require
any
review
of
the
signage
before
they?
They
put
it
up
that
type
of
thing.
So
actually,
what
I
was
thinking
about
was
that
at
our
next
meeting
we
have
a
list
of
or
we
we
asked
dave
to
give
us
an
overview
of
the
current
dangerous
dog
program.
B
A
F
Whether
we
do
a
workshop
or
not,
although
that
makes
sense,
but
just
to
reiterate
what
remember
dickerson
said
about
the.
If
you
know
this,
if
what's
in
here,
I
haven't
double
checked,
is
the
actual
current
code.
It
does
say
in
quotes
that
the
sign
has
to
say
dangerous.
So
your
neighbor
is
already
you
know,
is
currently
in
violation
of
the
existing
code.
If
they
have
an
adjudicated
dog
that
it's
supposed
to
have
a
sign
that
says
dangerous,
I
mean
it
says
it
in
quote
here.
F
If
that's
what's
current
and
then
I
just
wanted
to
put
my
opinion
in
on,
I
don't,
I
feel,
like
the
the
muslin
makes
sense
for
even
for
a
first
offense,
especially
if
it
was
like
a
you
know,
a
biting
thing,
although
I
wonder
how
you're
gonna
muzzle
a
cat
and
and
then,
as
far
as
like
the
the
vest
thing,
I
I
don't
see
why
it
can't
just
be
a
collar,
but
at
least
as
simple
as
a
bright
red
collar,
which
is
you
know,
some
animals
aren't
going
to
want
a
vest
or
a
harness,
they're
miserable
with
that
and
might
even
cause
them
to
be
more
aggra,
whereas
every
dog
is
going
to
be
used
to
a
collar.
B
Yeah,
thank
you.
Colleen.
G
Yeah,
my
video
is
muted
and
it
won't-
I
mean
it
stopped.
They
won't
and
it
says
the
host
stopped,
my
video,
so
I
don't
know
what
that
is.
But
a
bright
red
collar
is
actually
not
a
good
idea,
because
a
lot
of
people
have
bright
red
colors
on
their
dogs
and
dogs.
A
lot
of
dogs
don't
like
collars
and
you
can
easily
choke
a
dog
trying
to
control
it
with
a
collar.
G
I
found.
Most
dogs
are
much
happier
with
harnesses
cats,
you're
never
going
to
leash
them,
you're,
never
going
to
harness
them
unless,
unless
you
start
them
at
about
six
weeks-
and
I
don't
know
that
there
has
been
a
single
cat
that
has
been
adjudicated,
dangerous
they've
been
killed
by
dogs,
but
I
don't
know
that
they've
ever
killed
a
dog
or
hurt
a
person.
G
Okay.
So
that's
why
I
want
to
just
change
it
to
domesticated
animals,
because
there
are
other
animals
that
can
cause
harm
and
probably
should
have
rabies
shots
like
ferrets.
I
know
there
are
quite
a
few
ferrets
around
here
and
some
of
the
people
have
them
on
leashes
and
some
of
them
don't
but
okay,
at
any
rate,.
G
F
G
B
A
Thank
you
yeah.
I
I'm
sorry
member
dickerson.
I
I
did
not
make
your
video
go
away.
Secondly,
yeah
you
could
have
manager
lewis
come
to
your
workshop.
You
can
ask
him
to
come,
so
I
think
this
is
something
that
you
really
got.
You
guys
really
need
to
do,
because
this
is
going
to
take
some
time
and
chairman
as
chair.
You
can
call
a
meeting.
I
just
need
three
days
to
notice
it.
Okay.
B
I
I'm
hesitating
because
I
know
we'll
be
at
the
council
meeting
spending
quite
a
bit
of
time
between
now
and
and
the
27th
and
then
two
weeks
later
we
have
our
our
committee
meeting
how
about
the
29th.
A
B
I'm
okay
with
that,
we
really
don't
have
anything
else
pressing
I
mean
by
then
we'll
have
presented
to
council
and
we'll
be
well
on
our
way
cohen.
You
have
your
hand
raised.
G
Yeah
I
meant
to
take
that
off,
but
I
wanted
to
add
something.
I
don't
think
it's
gonna
take
that
long.
We
have
some
very
specific
things.
It's
very
simple,
you
know
just
change
dogs
and
cats
to
domesticated
animals,
make
a
muzzle
for
the
first
offense
consider
a
harness
with
a
clear
warning
on
it
and
make
sure
that
code
enforcement
follows
the
code.
G
B
You
know
I
I
think
we
probably
have
to
have
a
meeting,
because
we
there's
a
couple
things
we
need
to
cover,
but
I
would
like
to
start
with
you
know:
a
review
with
dave
lee
or
dave
lewis
on
the
current
dangerous
dog
steps
that
they
take,
because
I
don't
think
that
it's
consistent
with
our
current
code
and
I
think
we
need
to
understand
first,
what's
currently
being
done
and
why
and
then
we
move
from
there.
G
B
Okay-
and
I
also
think
the
timing
is
really
good-
I
know
that
with
the
off-leash
task
force,
recommendations,
dangerous
dog
comes
up
quite
a
bit,
so
all
right,
so
that
will
be
on
our
next
meeting
our
agenda
for
our
next
meeting.
B
I'm
okay
with
that.
How
does
that
work
for
everybody
else?
That's
fine!
Okay
october
20th,
it
is
we've
already
got.
We
know
that
we
need
to
review
our
bylaws,
and
so
I'm
asking
everybody
to
look
at
that
on
your
own
time
and
come
prepared
with
any
thoughts
or
ideas
or
changes
that
you
think
need
to
be
addressed
in
our
bylaws.
B
Hopefully,
hopefully,
there
are
none,
since
we
just
did
that
a
year
ago
and
then,
secondly,
we'll
review
with
code
manager,
lewis
the
dangerous
dog
processes
currently
and
then
I
would
like
to
add
that
we
look
at
our
priorities.
B
If
you
recall
in
the
past,
we've
had
a
list
of
priorities
at
the
end
of
the
year
and
we
look
at
those
and
re-prioritize
identify
with
city
council
if
there's
anything
that
they
want
us
to
focus
on
and
then
also
code
enforcement,
if
there's
any
anything
that
they
they
would
like
us
to
address
in
the
in
the
coming
years.
So
I
would
like
to
put
that
on
for
2022
priorities
for
the
ceac
maureen.
A
Meeting
you
guys
discussed
hybrid
meetings
and
I
did
receive
training
for
hybrid
meetings.
However,
the
city
has
gone
back
to
a
mass
mandate
for
employees,
so
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
still
want,
are
interested
in
doing
a
hybrid
meeting
for
the
next
meeting
or
straight
zoom.
What
do
you
guys
want
to
do.
B
D
C
G
Colleen,
I'm
okay
with
zoom.
It
saves
me
a
lot
of
time,
though
I
no
longer
have
an
animal
to
worry
about.
So
oh.
B
B
Okay,
I
I
actually
was
thinking
about
going
back
in
for
a
hybrid
meeting,
but
now
with
what
I'm
seeing
in
the
news,
I
I'm
good
with
zoom.
Still
I'm
not
comfortable.
G
Yeah,
I
have
a
request:
we've
been
getting
a
notification
and
the
packet
via
email
three
days
before
the
meeting,
and
we
didn't
this
time.
I
would
I
hope
that
we
could
go
back
to
that
that
we
perhaps,
if
you've,
already
prepared
it
the
agenda
by
the
previous
thursday,
like
they
do
with
city
council.
G
Oh
actually,
we
wouldn't
need
it
until
monday,
but
I'd
like
the
weekend
to
go
over
the
stuff
in
the
packet,
and
I
would
like
a
notification
because
I
have
a
problem
sometimes
going
to
the
meeting
portal
and
getting
the
information,
and
it
was
very
nice
when
I'd
get
the
notification
via
email,
because
then
I
could
see
it
and-
and
I
get
it
sooner
and
and
I'd
like
to
make
sure
that
that
happens.
Yeah
we're
doing
it.
B
In
enough
time,
normally,
I
think
maureen
does
send
out,
in
addition
to
the
zoom
link,
a
separate
email
that
has
the
agenda
and
minutes
from
the
prior
meeting.
So
we'll
go
back
to
doing
that.
That
would.
B
Okay,
further
any
okay,
any
other
further
comments
on
our
next
meeting.
Otherwise,
the
last
agenda
item
is
committee.
Member
choice:
does
anyone
have
anything
they
would
like
to
bring
up
it's
not
on
the
agenda.
B
No
all
right
so
with
that
at
that
I'm
going
to
adjourn
our
meeting
tonight
and
thank
you,
everyone
for
a
very
productive
call.
We've
gotten!
We
got
through
a
lot
today
and
carson
and
colleen
I'll
be
working
with
you
guys
over
the
next
four
days
and
then
hopefully,
if
you
can
attend
the
meeting
on
the
27th
or
at
least
watch
it,
I
I
would
appreciate
the
the
support
I
think
you
know
we
all
bring
something.
B
We've
all
brought
something
to
all
this:
the
work
that
we've
done
for
eab
and-
and
I
would
like
to
make
sure
the
city
council
sees
all
the
hard
work.
That's
been
done
so
all
right.
So
with
nothing
else,
then
I
will
call
this
meeting
adjourned.