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A
Well,
waiting
to
see
if
anyone
else
will
join
us
here,
I
know
that
member
canadian
said
that
he
will
not
be
joining
us.
Yes,
but
I
did
not
hear
from
member
lewis.
A
Yeah,
so
I
believe,
even
at
this
time
we
would
have
a
quorum
based
off
of
member
dedrick
and
and
remember
whitney
being
here,
so
we
can.
We
can
proceed
with
the
meeting.
That's
we're
good
with
starting
now.
A
A
Okay,
no
problem:
okay,
great,
okay!
Well,
let's
begin,
I
guess
so
I'll
call
to
order
the
inguinal
transportation
advisory
committee
for
this
october,
14
2021.
The
time
right
now
is
602
and
I'll.
Ask
michelle
to
walk
us
through
the
called
pretty
much
the
role
attendance
roll
call.
B
Yeah,
of
course,
let's
start
with
etax,
so
we
have
a
member
sarno.
A
B
And
our
alternate
member
whitney
president
all
right
and
with
planning
and
zoning
we
have
member
austin.
B
Sorry
no
worries.
I
got
you
so
we'll
go
with
member
donaldson,
again:
okay,
member
hagerty,
here
member
hubka
and
member
brown.
Let
me
know
that
they
won't
be
joining
us
today.
Tonight.
Member
fuller.
B
A
Okay,
thank
you
michelle.
So
here's
the
part
where,
if
you
can
and
share
the
screen,
share
the
agenda,
that
would
be
also
very
helpful.
If
not,
I
can
certainly
put
it
up
myself,
but
if
you
can
do
that
and
then
we'll
go
from
there.
A
Do
very
good
thanks,
so
the
next
order
of
business
here
is
approval
of
minutes
from
our
last
etac
meeting,
which
was
held
september.
9
2021
and
the
enclosed
meeting
minutes
are
there
and
if
anybody
has
any
comments
for
those
meeting
minutes,
please
provide
them
at
this
time.
A
So
I
don't
know
if,
if
you
had
a
chance
to
look
at
it
but
now's
the
time
to
speak
to
that,
if
there's
anything
that
was
missed
or
omitted.
F
A
B
Yeah,
let's
start
with
member
lewis,
remember
diedrich.
G
G
B
A
A
At
this
time,
and
is
there
michelle
anyone
on
the
line,
or
is
anybody
currently
present
as
well
too
in
terms
of
from
the
from
the
public
here
would
like
to
participate?
A
A
So
that
comes
from
an
accident
report
from
the
september
2021
accident
at
1400
east,
hampton
avenue,
there's
a
crash
report
that
was
attached
to
the
agenda,
and
this
is
of
course
going
back
to
our
previous
meeting
where
and
I
believe
it
was
member
can
addison
who
had
that
included
on
the
agenda
last
meeting's
agenda
regarding
the
several
crashes
that
have
been
prevalent.
A
I
think
over
the
last
several
years,
if
not
longer
to
that
area
and
those
businesses
as
well,
and
if
there's
gonna
be
something
that's
done
and
just
a
highlight
and
focus
that
it's
really
a
problem
area
in
terms
of
accidents
themselves.
A
So
we
did.
I
did
take
a
look
at
that.
The
the
crash
report
it's
devastating
and
to
consider
that
information
and
just
how
impactful
that
is
to
the
you
know,
people
involved
the
community,
the
businesses
just
all
across
the
board
there.
So
you
know
with
that
member
can
addison
is.
Is
there
anything
further
that
you
wanted
to
glean
from
the
crash
report
or
or
open
up
to
the
group
with.
G
No,
it's
a
little
hard
for
me
to
read,
so
I
don't
know
if
anybody
was
planning
on
discussing
it
from
like,
if
there's
any
members
of
the
police
department
who
are
here
tonight
or
anybody
from
city
staff
who
could
talk
through
a
little
bit
more
detail,
yeah
see
some
hands
up.
Thank
you.
H
Mr
chair,
this
is
michelle
austin
from
planning
and
zoning
here
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
kate,
fuller
from
planning
and
zoning
has
joined
us
as
well.
I
don't
believe
she
was
here
for
the
roll
call.
A
Okay,
great,
thank
you.
Miss
fuller
for
attending
welcome.
C
And
I
I
think
director
deandre,
I
was
probably
able
to
explain
the
report
and
I
just
had
a
question
about
it
and
the
area
and
traffic
related
issue
afterwards.
If
she
wants
to
go
through
the
explanation
which
I
think
she
was
saying,
she
could
do.
Yeah.
J
Thank
you,
yeah
michelle.
Could
you
open
up
the
crash
report?
Please
yeah,
we
just
it.
We
just
wanted
to
follow
up,
so
I
did
reach
out
to
cdot
about
this.
So
I
know
that
was
the
direction
given
by
etac
at
the
last
meeting.
When
we
talked
about
this
and
the
one
thing
I
wanted
to
point
out
about
the
crash
report
and
I'm
happy
to
try
and
answer
questions
sergeant.
Mckay
isn't
isn't
here
tonight,
but
I've
looked
at
a
fair
number
of
these.
J
But
what
was
interesting
is
they
didn't
hit
the
little
shopping
center?
They
hit
one
of
those
garages
that
were
are
associated
with
those
the
apartment,
buildings
or
condos
that
are
right
there.
So
it
didn't
actually
damage
one
of
the
cars
in
the
garage,
so
it
was
yeah
pretty
significant
michelle.
Can
you
open
up
the
crash
report
please
and
show
that.
J
Yeah,
so
you
can
see
there,
it
just
shows
the
trajectory
of
that
the
vehicle
as
it
went
off
the
side
of
the
road
there.
So
it
looks
like
they
hit
another
vehicle
kind
of
a
side
swipe
or
the
front
left
bumper
of
another
vehicle
and
then
went
into
that
garage
and
then
damaged
a
vehicle
within
there
too.
So,
but
I
did
notify
the
c-dad
about
that.
It
is
cdot's
responsibility
to
oversee
the
signage
on
that
roadway,
and
so
we
verified
that
as
well.
J
If
you
go
to
the
next
slide
or
excuse
me
the
previous
sheet
yeah,
basically,
this
gives
you
all
the
data
that
goes
into
a
crash
report.
So
a
report
similar
to
this
is
filled
out
for
every
crash
that
occurs
within
the
state
and
just
gives
a
lot
of
the
details
in
terms
of
location.
J
The
direction
whether
or
not
the
apple
the
people
inside
were
cited
or
not
the
number
of
people
and
then
what
their
severity
of
their
injuries
were
so
yeah.
That
was
the
most
important
thing.
I
wanted
to
point
out
that
that
map,
but
is
there
any
other
questions
I
can
answer
or
try
to
answer
about?
The
report.
A
No,
I
think
director
d'andrea,
if
you
go,
go
back
to
that
michelle
to
that
map
there.
This
part
of
the
report
yeah
and
the
way
that
I
I
saw
it-
and
I
I
think,
I'm
echoing
what
you're
saying,
but
there
was
an
impact
there
going
westbound
looks
like
a
vehicle,
the
gray
vehicle.
Let's
just
call
it
impacted
that
red
vehicle
sending
that
red
vehicle
into
what
looks
like
a
rollover
situation
there,
three
and
a
quarter
roll
over
and
that
roll
over
that
red
vehicle
ended
up
just
going.
A
A
J
It
still
hit
the
the
shopping
center,
just
not
as
severe
as
yeah
the
the
garage
unit.
A
Right
so
but
yeah
it
looks
like
I
mean
it
was
just
yeah
full-on
impact.
It
looks
like
and
what
was
really
what
I
noticed
was
that
I
think
the
vehicle
that
caused
this
and
was
traveling
according
to
report
100
miles
an
hour
yep
in
a
40
mile
per
hour,
stone.
B
A
You
know
not
sure-
and
I
I
didn't
see
anything
in
there-
that
you
know
indicated
whether
the
driver
was
intoxicated
or
just
reckless
driving.
I'm
not
sure
that
as
well
too,
but
just
something
else
to
consider
there
so
but.
J
A
J
Typically
they'll
be
cited
for
impaired
driving
if
they
suspect
that
and
they'll
do
a
you
know
even
afterwards,
but
it
doesn't
look.
I
don't
know
if
they
did
that
or
not
given
that
there
was
a
fatality.
A
Yeah,
so
I'm
exactly,
but
it's
just
something,
and
so
in
your
connection
with
cdot,
you
brought
that
to
their
attention
directed
to
andrea
and
did
they
respond?
Was
there
anything
that
they
offered
in
in
terms
of
feedback.
J
B
B
I
believe
remember:
hagerty
had
some
comments
and.
A
A
Exactly
I'll
get
to
that-
and
I
think
colin
was
actually
the
first
one
to
raise
his
hands
we'll
go
with
colin.
C
Thank
you
appreciate
it.
I
I
do
live
in
the
3300
block
in
this
area
and
people
rip
around
that
curve
coming
off
of
285
onto
old
hampden,
and
I
guess
my
question
is:
is
there
consideration,
especially
with
the
development
that's
coming
in
kind
of
kitty,
corner
to
that
apartment
or
to
the
strip
mall
there
with
that
new
development
coming
down
the
northwest?
C
Yes,
exactly
or
to
be
honest
or
would
a
speed
hump
at
the
intersection
of
I
think
dilton's
next
street
you
know
be
a
consideration
or
just
something
to
slow
people
down,
because
then
they
come
ripping
down.
They
hit
the
light
of
downing
they're
just
going
to
continue
hauling
down
until
they
see
the
flashing
light
from
the
the
hospital
there.
At
swedish-
and
I
know
this
last
week-
there's
actually
been
a
police
radar
unit
out,
which
I
think
is
helpful
also,
but
that
was
pretty
far
down.
J
Yeah,
we
have
not
considered
that
that
that
shopping
center
is
actually
in
the
city
of
cherry
hills,
village
so
and
it,
as
you
mentioned,
it's
a
direct
route
to
the
hospitals
as
well.
So
when
we,
if
we
were
to
close
that
road,
obviously
we'd
have
to
coordinate
with
cherries
village,
I'm
sure
that
shopping
center
as
much
as
maybe
they
hate
the
traffic
or
the
speed
they
they
like
the
traffic
going
in
front
of
them.
J
So
I
could
certainly
you
know,
reach
out
to
charles
village
to
gauge
their
interest
in
that,
but
I
think
it's
going
to
be
more
effective
to
try
and
see
what
we
can
do
in
terms
of
traffic
calming
and
enforcement,
as
opposed
to
looking
at
closing.
J
B
J
A
Just
just
a
thought
there
anything
else,
colin.
H
Yeah,
it's
sort
of
funny
that
being
from
planning
and
zoning
like
colin,
is
just
like.
We
never
see
these
things
and
planning
and
zoning
so
we're
like!
Oh
well,
let's
ask
a
bunch
of
questions
about
this
stuff.
I
was.
H
Well,
colin,
you
and
I
and
kate
will
try
and
keep
our
comments
down,
so
we
don't
interfere
with
our
meaning.
But
I
was
just
curious
about
how
many
accidents
occur
in
this
general
area,
where
the
old,
hampton
splits
off
of
285
in
general,
yeah.
J
We
had
tried
to
pull
that
data
and
it
was
a
little
bit
cumbersome,
so
we
did
have
a
list
at
our
last
meeting
the
meeting
before
we
had
the
joint
one
with
pnz
and
it
was
a
little
bit
they'd
kind
of
given
us
a
range.
So
we're
trying
to
work
on
that
with
the
police
department
is
to
look
at
exactly
what's
going
on
at
this
intersection
or
along
this
curve,
but
see
that
will
definitely
have
that
data
more
readily
available,
because
this
is
a
c
dot
road.
J
All
the
accidents
or
crashes
go
through
them,
so
I
can,
when
I
follow
up
with
them,
I'll
ask
them
if
they
can
give
us
specific
numbers
like
over
the
last
three
or
five
years
for
the
actual
number
of
crashes.
H
Yeah,
it
was
just
just
a
point
of
curiosity
for
me
because
when
the
bullock
mortuary
thing
I
did
say
you
know
you
might
want
to
put
some
concrete
bullets
there
on
the
corner.
Just
because,
because
of
this,
and
then
you
know-
I
mean
I
don't
know
if
they
do
any
good
or
not,
but
maybe
some
sort
of
like
the
flashing
signs
when
we
have
the
pedestrian
crop
crossing
signs,
I
know
but
you're
right,
this
is
285.
So
it's
going
to
be
c
dots
and
c
dot's
furview,
but
anyway
I
was
just
curious.
B
J
But
I
think
that's
a
good
suggestion
is
maybe
adding
some
beacons
to
the
to
the
you
know
like
stops
or
do
a
speed
limit
sign
as
you
do.
If
you
do
travel
along
that
road
westbound,
you
know
that
this
is
a
lower
speed
and
try
and
bring
more
awareness
to
that.
G
You're
good,
there
were
three
accidents
that
were
newsworthy
in
the
last
year,
so
the
pino's
pizzeria
was
closed
for
about
six
weeks
because
of
a
car
going
through
its
cooler
and
hitting
its
dishwasher,
so
they
had
to
close
for
six
weeks
last
november.
I
believe,
and
then
the
caribou
coffee
had
a
car
crash
that
flooded
out
their
space
and
then
this
accident,
with
the
rollover
fatality
and
a
slight
damage
to
the
caribou
coffee
corner.
So
those
were
the
the
three
things
that
I
heard.
That
was
like.
A
I
get
I
guessed
in
the
resolve.
The
result
of
this
is
continued
coordination
with
cdot,
perhaps
to
see
what
what
they
can
can
do,
and
you
know
once
things
evolve
or
they're
in
our
right
of
way,
as
you
mentioned
director
to
andrea
about
some
signage
or
or
whatever
we
can
do
to
bring
attention
to
the
motorists
to
slow
down
that's
possible
as
well
too,
perhaps
so,
but
yeah
and
I
I
do
have
to
say
colin.
A
I
do
know
that
pothole
you're,
referring
to
because
I
ride
a
motorcycle
and
it's
right
in
the
middle
of
the
road,
and
so
I
don't
have
noted
it
and
try
to
avoid
it
and
it
slows
me
down
so
there
you
go.
I
guess
it
serves
its
purpose,
but
but
yeah
that
is,
and
it's
just
something
that
I
think
anybody
that's
ever
just
been
there
in
that
shopping.
A
E
So
I've
got
a
few
comments
and
remember
yeah
and
questions
too
thanks,
but
I
appreciate
you
planning
zone
guys
being
here.
First
of
all,
thank
you
guys
for
joining
and
feel
free
to
chime
in
with
questions
and
stuff,
and
we
always
love
having
people
join
in
and
more
of
them
are
on
some
of
these
things.
So
thank
you
guys.
So
maria
I
sent
you
an
email
a
few
weeks
ago
about
some
of
the
speed
limit
signs
along
that
stretch
of
road
right
there.
E
E
You
know
some
of
the
speed
signs
are
covered
by
trees
along
this
section
and
and
kind
of
all
the
way
from
gilpin
over
to
you
know:
well
not
all
the
way
to
broadway
but
we'll
say
maybe
clarkson
and
I
think
some
of
it's
just
you
know:
they've
planted
some
new
ones
and
they've
grown
in
front
of
it
and
I
think
they
just
need
a
trim,
but
I
did
notice.
I
was
riding
my
motorcycle
through
there
one
day,
avoiding
that
pothole.
E
I
know
which
one
you
guys
are
talking
about
too,
and
I
I
did
notice
that
just
kind
of
going
down
the
center
lane
on
on
my
bike.
It
was
hard
to
see
some
of
them
until
I
was
very
close
and
it
was
actually
quite
a
few
of
them.
I
you
know
you
asked
specifically,
which
ones
and
and
really
it
was
probably
over
half
of
them
in
that
stretch
there.
E
So
just
a
a
couple
other
comments
on
the
speed
limit
signs
that
I
wanted
to
make.
If
you
look
at
the
crash
report,
that's
on
the
screen
still
here,
the
the
first
35
mile,
an
hour,
speed
limit
sign
in
that
section
of
road
where
it
actually
goes
down
to
35
is,
is
actually
basically
on
the
right
edge
of
the
screen
right
there.
If
you,
you
know,
there
are
some
markers.
E
If
you
go
on
google
maps
or
you
can
go
onto
street
view
and
kind
of
look
or
if
you
drive
through
there,
but
there's
a
little
white
dot
and
that's
an
electrical
box
there
and
the
speed
limit
sign
is
about
50
60
feet.
Maybe
before
that,
so
you
know
it
you're
already
pretty
much
in
the
corner
when
it
actually
goes
at
35,
and
I
think
that
there's
probably
an
opportunity
to
move
that
up
a
little
earlier
or
make
it
more
obvious.
E
E
So
you
know
that
can
be
another
option,
but
it
seems
like
it's
pretty
late,
it's
basically
where
franklin
would
cross
if
it
did
go
across
the
road
there
and-
and
so
I
think
that
you
know
you
know,
people
are
starting
to
slow
down
when
they
hit
that
35.
You
know
most
people
don't
slow
down
until
they
actually
get
to
where
the
speed
limit
lowers
a
lot
of
times,
they're
slowing
down
into
that
section,
and
here
they're
coming
fast.
E
So
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
and
I
think
the
comments
earlier
also
about
the
hospital
traffic
down
hampton.
I
I
don't
want
to
discount
that
too
much,
but
also
you
know
that
does
mean
a
lot
of
traffic
through
there.
And
so
you
know
I
don't
know
what
sort
of
alternative
there
is,
but
being
a
big
thoroughfare.
E
You
know
that
that
might
be
a
difficult
sell,
but
interesting,
interesting
points
that
you
guys
brought
up
on
that
topic.
So
speed
limit
signs,
moving
further
we're
talking,
westbound
here
so
moving
west
on
hampton
there's,
one
speed
limit
sign
about
every,
maybe
three
or
four
blocks
or
so,
and
this
is
an
area
with
a
lot
of
traffic,
especially
with
all
the
redevelopment
and
and
more
dense
housing.
That's
going
in
and
the
expansion
of
the
hospital-
and
you
know,
there's
a
few
places
where
there's
not
a
speed
limit
signed
for
a
couple
of
blocks.
E
Two
three
blocks,
depending
on
where
you're
pulling
out
onto
that
road.
So
you
know
just
for
traffic
coming
on
and
off
that
road.
I
I
don't
know
what
the
guidelines
are
on.
You
know,
sort
of
distances
and
frequency
of
those
per
whatever
the
speed
limit
is,
but
it
did
seem
like
you
know
there
weren't,
maybe
quite
enough
and
some
of
them
the
trees
were
blocking.
So
I
think,
just
generally
now
that's
a
little
bit
further
around
the
corner
from
where
a
lot
of
these
accidents
occur.
E
So
I
want
to
go
back
to
that
real,
quick,
there's,
a
report.
You
can
pull
up
from
the
minutes
and
then
from
our
last
meeting
and
there's
eastbound.
It's
there's
an
eastbound
and
a
westbound
report
I
believe,
is
what
they
were.
I
don't
remember
the
exact
details,
but
there's
a
one
of
them
is
it's
westbound
and
it
was
basically
30
accidents
this
year
and
then
the
eastbound
one
was
about
the
same
number,
but
I
think
that
one
went
all
the
way
back
to
2019..
E
So
you
know
it's
that
westbound
traffic
and
I
think
that's
pretty
well
understood
that
that's
where
a
lot
of
the
accidents
happen
on
that
corner
is
the
westbound
side.
So
you
know
the
the
the
speed
bump
was
was
something
that
we
haven't
heard
in
this
committee
before
and
I
don't
mean
to
laugh
at
it,
but
you
know
they
are
effective.
They
use
them
in
the
mountains
in
the
breaking
zones.
Things
like
that.
E
I
know
they're,
tough
for
the
plows
and
and
there's
probably
a
lot
of
reasons
that
they're
not
great,
but
you
know
could
be
something
to
consider
because
you
know
it
is
a
problem
and
there's
a
lot
of
developments.
There's
going
to
be
a
lot
more.
E
You
know,
traffic
in
and
out
of
that
area
as
well,
and
I
know
you're,
not
sea
dogs
you're
just
kind
of
passing
some
of
this
information
along
just
maria
I,
you
know
I've
realized,
I'm
kind
of
speaking
to
you
on
that,
but
I'd
you
know,
love
to
hear
if
the
group
has
any
other
comments
on
those
types
of
things
as
well.
So
thanks
well.
A
Yeah
and
with
that
director
d'andrea,
you
have
your
hands
up
so
go
ahead.
Please.
J
Yeah,
thank
you
just
to
so
to
remember
dedric's
point.
So
we
are
gonna,
go
out
and
trim
back
those
branches
around
like
the
speed
limit
signs.
So
we
did
get
that
message
and
chris
groth
is
going
to
go
out
and
do
that
again.
That
would
be
see.
That's
response
that
would
be
c
does
responsibility,
but
by
the
time
they
do
it
or
if
they
they'll,
probably
push
back
and
say
you
guys
can
do
it
so
we'll
just
go
out
and
do
that.
J
But
to
your
to
that
list,
remember
from
last
meeting
there
was
a
number
of
accidents
on
there,
but
they
were
for
a
range
of
of
addresses.
So
it
wasn't
just
this
location.
So
just
just
wanted
to
remind
you
of
that,
so
we're
trying
to
pinpoint
what
actually
happened.
So
I
think
it
went
like
from
the
1400
to
the
1900
block
of
hampton
or
something
so
I
think
we
got
a
pretty
wide
range
of
accident
data,
and
so
we
need
to
hone
in
on
this
specific
location,
just
a
reminder
on
that.
E
Yeah,
I
meant
to
mention
that,
thank
you
and
I
I
think
I
think
there
was
another
piece
of
where
these
were
epd
reports,
and
maybe
we
didn't
have
all
of
c
dot
data,
or
you
know
there
were
some
other
things
like
that,
maybe
c
cdot
or
the
highway
patrol
didn't
necessarily
call
in
epd
on
everything
and
vice
versa.
E
D
Okay,
I'd
also
remember
whitney
yeah.
I
was
just
curious
if
we
could,
if
c
dot,
that
would
c
dot
be
in
charge
of
a
study
there
to
get
the
speeds
going.
Westbound
is
that
would
that
be
under
their
their
purview,
because
I'm
wondering
if
even
for
the
old
hamden
pullout,
like
as
a
drastic
measure,
making
that
third
lane
a
turn
lane,
so
you
actually
have
to
slow
down
so
at
the
stoplight.
D
It
would
actually
basically
end
into
what
would
you
have
to
merge,
and
that
way
I
mean
it
would
actually
slow
traffic
down
significantly,
because
people
come
through
that
stop
sign
that
stop
light
and
then
westbound,
obviously
going
westbound
keep
their
speed
going,
not
having
to
merge.
That
means
you're
going
to
have
to
slow
down
by
the
nature
of
your
merge,
hopefully
across
our
fingers.
B
D
Lane
into
old
hampden
a
turn
lane,
okay,
and
that
would
obviously
be
a
constriction
in
the
traffic
flow
and
possibly
cause
some
more
traffic.
But
at
the
same
time
it
would
slow
people
down
dramatically.
And
if
we
see
that
the
bulk
of
the
accidents
are
between
basically
that
old
hand
and
that
s
curve
between
old
hampden
and
was
that
clarkson,
then
that
would
possibly
reduce
it.
By
only
having
to
be
two
lanes
going.
Westbound.
J
Yeah
I
can,
I
can
certainly
there's
probably
going
to
be.
I
think
we
talked
about
this,
maybe
last
time
too,
but
we
need
the
or
see
that
we'll
say
the
capacity
is
needed
for
three
lanes.
You
know
we
already
have
issues
on
285
with
volumes,
so
I
doubt
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
take
away
a
lane
just
for
slowing
purposes.
So
I
think
it's
maybe
more.
J
Is
there
some
kind
of
modifications
we
can
do
to
slow
people
down
on
old,
hampton
or
even
as
you
suggest,
as
they
come
off
of
maybe
make
that
curve
there
less
easy.
You
know
less
of
an
off
ramp
almost
and
a
little
bit,
maybe
harder
to
where
you
have
to
slow
down
before
you
actually
make
the
turn
onto
old
hampton.
B
J
It
does
so
we're
doing
a
congestion
mitigation
study.
We
just
actually
awarded
that
contract
a
couple
of
city
council
meetings
ago,
so
they're
going
to
kick
off,
probably
here
right
before
sometime
in
november
and
that'll
take
about
14
months.
But
yes,
this
is
part
of
that
stretch
and
they'll
be
evaluating
that.
B
A
Very
good
yeah
speaking
to
that
director
to
andrea
that's
what
I'm
suspecting
as
well
too
cdot's
response
might
be
in
terms
of
taking
away
a
lane
and
yeah
they're
they're,
looking
for
as
much
capacity
as
possible,
I'm
guessing
in
there,
and
it
could
also
be
problematic
if
you
just
convert
that
into
a
lane,
and
then
you
have
people
and
probably
some
sort
of
training
that
would
have
to
happen
with
the
general
public
for
them
to
get
out
of
that
lake.
A
They
would
probably
want
to
get
out
of
that
lane
and
merge
into
traffic
and
just
create
havoc
in
that
sense,
as
well
too,
it's
a
possibility
to
do
that.
But
it's
it's
a
it's
a
well
thought
idea,
though,
remember
whitney
so
possibility.
I
think
it
would
just
have
to
get
looked
into
a
little
bit
further
by
cdot
on
what
they
what
they
think
about
that
so
yeah
anything
else
on
this
topic
right
here.
A
B
A
So
I
think
we'll
go
to
director
to
andrea
for
that
on
where
that's
at
so.
J
Yeah,
thank
you,
chair
sarno.
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
quick
verbal
update
on
this,
so
we
did
I've.
J
We've
talked
about
this
in
the
past,
just
wanted
to
let
the
group
know
that
we
were
proceeding
with
this,
so
this
was
a
joint
project
with
the
city
of
littleton,
where
they've
actually
installed
bike
lanes
on
street
bike
lanes
that
are
marked
and
signed
all
the
way
from
littleton
boulevard
up
to
about
just
north
of
bellevue,
and
so
we
we're
taking
it
from
there
and
then
installing
on-street
bike
lanes
from
where
they
ended
just
north
of
bellevue
up
to
tufts
avenue.
J
A
A
B
C
A
A
So
really
good-
and
I
think
this
came
from
if
I
recall
a
citizen-
a
member
of
the
public
that
brought
this
to
our
attention
and
but
I
think
we
also
discussed
it
ourselves
with
an
e-tac
as
well
to
win
windermere
and
the
possibilities
for
the
bike
lanes
so
but
good
to
see
movement
on
that
all
right,
very
good.
A
K
I
tell
you
what
I,
if
you
allow
me
to
share
my
screen,
I
can
share
all
the
same
materials.
This
is
chris
mogle
saying
and
I've
got
them
all
arranged
in
a
good
way,
so
I
can
go
back
and
forth,
and
so
we
can
kind
of
facilitate
our
discussion
by
all
means.
K
K
I
I
know
john,
and
I
really
appreciate
it
and
city
staff
really
appreciate
you
and
I
want
to
go
through
just
a
pretty
simple
presentation,
but
I
have
maps
and
spreadsheets
and
I
just
want
to
update
you
where
we
are
share
kind
of
what
our
draft
results
are
and
get
some
input
and
discussion.
So
let
me
share
my
screen.
K
It
should
be
coming
your
way,
great
okay,
so
I'll
just
kind
of
I'll
give
a
start.
So
again,
I'm
chris
vogel,
saying
I
I
hope
y'all
remember
me,
but
I
am
the
consultant
project
manager
for
this
tango
would
walk
and
wheel.
Update
and
john
volberl
is
the
city
project
manager.
He
isn't
able
to
be
a
jay.
He
got
married
actually
last
week
and
I
think
today
or
tomorrow
is
this
last
day
of
pto,
so
good
for
him.
K
Okay,
so
quick
meeting
overview,
we
don't
need
to
do
introductions.
I
think
we
all
all
know
each
other.
A
couple,
quick
updates,
I'll
give
you
just
some
high-level
web
page
and
status,
go
through
remind
us
of
our
project
goals,
our
process,
and
then
I
want
to
talk
about
screening,
spend
most
of
our
time
on
screening
and
show
you
where
we
ended
up,
but
I
know
you
all
had
the
materials
ahead
of
time.
Maybe
you
got
a
chance
to
look,
maybe
you
didn't,
but
hopefully
I
can
provide
some
context.
K
K
It
includes
us.
This
is
some
of
the
stuff
we
talked
about
at
our
last
meeting
about
what
the
key
plans
and
key
steps
are
and
goals
right
now.
There's
a
area
where
you
can,
you
know,
subscribes
we'll,
send
you
some
updates.
The
video
of
our
last
meeting
is
on
here
and
one
one
photo
from
our
inglewood
walk
party
as
well
as
key
dates,
which
is
great,
so
you
kind
of
keep
track
and
the
materials
we
presented
last
time.
K
Okay,
a
reminder
of
what
we're
trying
to
do,
because
I
know
it
gets
kind
of
it's
easy
to
lose
track.
So
one
thing
to
remember:
this
isn't
a
whole
new
walk-in
wheel
plan
right.
This
is
an
update
of
the
last
plan
and
it's
really
about
being
driven
by
the
city's
desire
to
find
tangible
and
achievable
projects
that
can
be
implemented
right
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
other
interesting
things.
K
That
inglewood
is
interested
in
and
needs.
That
might
be
a
little
past
the
scope
of
this.
But
the
idea
was,
let's
start
making
things
happen,
let's
start
finding
out
what
was
from
our
last
planning
process
wasn't
done
and
let's
find
the
ones
that
we
can
get
done.
So
that's
really
what
our
kind
of
laser
focus
has
been
and
I'd
love.
K
I'm
happy!
You
know
we
can
bring
it
up
as
high
as
you
guys
want
if
there's
other
things
since
we're
taking
notes
we're
going
to
capture
all
this
input
at
the
end
of
the
day,
what
our
recommendations
will
be
about?
What
can
we
do
in
the
next
few
years
to
make
things
better
for
citizens
overall
project
process?
Reminder
the
key
steps
engaging
you
all
to
you
know
really
act
as
the
voice
for
for
the
citizens
identify
recommendations
that
have
been
accomplished.
K
We
talked
about
that
last
time
and
ones
that
were
left
develop
a
baseline
evaluation
of
that
15-minute
city.
If
you
remember,
we
shared
those
maps
that
had
kind
of
purple
circles
and
different
circles
to
show
how
the
city
is
doing
at
walkability
and
bikeability
get
a
list
of
recommendations
that
were
outstanding
and
we're
right
here
right
now,
so
we're
prioritizing
those
recommendations
and
the
next
things
we'll
do
is
get
cost
estimates.
So
we
can
support
the
city's
implementation
of
budgeting
process.
K
K
We
took
all
those
projects,
there
were
51
projects
and
we
looked
at
really
basic
stuff
from
our
professional
experience.
How
hard
are
these
are
easy
to
implement
and
how
expensive
are
they
going
to
be?
Are
they
going
to
be
affordable
in
the
near
term,
so
we
went
through
all
the
projects.
We
did
a
quick
kind
of
pass
fail
test
with
that
and
25
about
half
of
our
51
projects
passed,
and
I'm
going
to
give
you
a
little
map
here.
K
So
this
map
was
of
all
the
projects
we
found
and
the
ones
that
are
highlighted
in
this
kind
of
greenish
are
ones
that
passed
our
level.
One
screening
that
we
took
into
more
detailed
screening,
the
ones
with
this
kind
of
pinkish
those
are
actually
projects
that
are
in
progress
based
on
information,
we've
gotten
from
community
planning
development
or
public
works
projects
that
were
on
our
list
that
are
happening
or
imminent
to
happen.
So
so
we
kept
those
on
here
to
give
some
context
how
everything
relates
to
each
other.
K
And
by
the
way,
if
there's
any
questions
along
the
way,
I
don't
know
if
I
can
see
hands.
But
if
michelle
sees
hands
and
can
just
prompt
me
happy
to
stop
anytime.
K
Okay,
so
so,
then
we
took
those
25
projects
and
we
went
into
a
more
detailed
screening
process
and
we
used
those
factors
that
we
talked
about
last
time
and
that
we
shared
with
the
public.
We
developed
some
more
meat
to
those
like
what
does
that
really
mean,
and
how
can
we
judge
all
these
all
these
factors
for
each
project
against
each
other?
So
if
you
remember,
we
had
connectivity
and
some
of
the
meat
we
gave
to
that
was
improved
connections
to
key
destinations
or
approve
access
to
transit.
Those
were
important
things.
K
We
looked
at
overall
project
cost,
so
at
this
point
that's
more
of
a
relative
cost
to
each
other,
so
the
ones
that
passed
our
level
one
screening
we
determined
we
could
probably
a
budget
and
implement
if
they
were
important
enough
and
then
we
rank
them
based
on.
Is
this
one
super
cheap?
Is
this
one
a
little
more
expensive
right
demand
so
response
to
stakeholder
and
community
input
and
falls
within
our
15
minute
and
five-minute
city
maps,
those
heat
areas
that
we
showed
last
time
for
demand?
K
I
just
want
to
talk
about
this,
so
basically,
every
project
that
we
had
on
the
list
went
through
a
public
involvement
process
as
part
of
a
walk-in
wheel,
2015
plan
right,
and
so
they
all
scored
at
least
two
out
of
we
had
a
scale
of
one
to
four.
Basically,
all
the
projects
scored
at
least
a
two
out
of
four
and
then
ones
that
were
in
the
quick
wins,
or
we
had
heard
more
about
got
four
out
of
four.
So
that's
how
we
thought
of
that
ease
of
implementation.
K
This
is
sort
of
a
more
detailed
look
at
what
we
looked
at
in
level.
One
so
is,
would
right
away
be
needed.
Are
there
parking
impacts?
Would
we
is
it
complex?
Like?
Are
there
multiple
agencies
involved
with
cdot
and
inglewood,
and
maybe
cherry
hills,
village
right,
and
so
how
hard
are
they
to
get
across
the
finish
line
equity?
This
was
really.
K
We
ended
up
in
a
sort
of
geographic
kind
of
looking
at
that
more
than
a
socioeconomic
way,
I'm
so
improving
accessibility
to
underserved
areas,
and
then
the
last
one
was
safety
and
comfort
and
we
tim
hoos
or
who's.
K
So
with
that,
I
want
to
want
to
show
you
I'm
going
to
go
to
this
spreadsheet
next
and
I'll
go
between
the
spreadsheet
and
the
map.
They
both
are
kind
of
useful
for
different
things.
I
just
want
to
start
with
the
spreadsheet
to
give
you
an
overview.
So
this
is
a
summary
spreadsheet
and
we
also
provided
this
more
much
more
detailed
spreadsheet,
which
is
really
hard
to
read
on
your
screen,
and
we
can
dig
into
this
if
we
have
questions
or
if
you
want
to
look.
K
But
this
is
all
the
factors
that
we
just
talked
about
and
the
detailed
scoring
and
all
the
notes
about
each
one.
So
we
are
pretty
thorough,
sorry,
so
so
what
we
ended
up
with
once
we
did
our
level
two
screening
and
I
should
have
used
different
nomenclature,
but
we
end
up
with
tier
one
priority
projects
and
tier
two
priority
projects
out
of
the
level
two
screening.
So
it's
easy
to
get
confused
between
the
twos
and
the
ones,
but
the
tier
one
priority
projects
are
the
ones
that
we
thought
were
the
highest
priority.
K
They
met
most
best
score
in
all
of
our
criteria
and
our
factors,
and
we
ended
up
with
eight
eight
of
those
projects.
So
there
were
eight
groups
right
one.
There
was
sherman
foxy,
lottie
dartmouth,
an
intersection
project
at
bannock
in
oxford,
quincy
avenue,
floyd
avenue,
bates
and
old
hampden,
and
each
of
those
some
of
those
have
sub
projects
right.
So
so
an
example
would
be
sherman.
You
don't
need
to
do
the
whole
length
of
sherman
at
one
time.
K
We
divide
it
into
two
segments
with
285
being
the
dividing
boundary
and
have
some
have
an
intersection
project
that
you
could
do
a
standalone
as
well.
So
that's
what
we
went
through
and
these
are
the
scores
now
that
worked
out
and
then
this
is
this
is
the
map
that
shows
those.
I
want
to
put
on
a
couple
a
couple
things
I
need
to
fix
in
this
map
before
I
before
you
guys
jump
on
me,
so
this
purple
circle's
in
the
wrong
place.
K
This
should
be
right
here
on
oxford,
so
our
gis
ended
up
putting
it
there.
So
I
have
to
fix
that
so
bannock
and
oxford
should
be
on
oxford.
Obviously,
and
I
believe,
there's
one
missing
my
understanding
maria's.
I
think
I
saw
an
rfp
out
for
floyd
west
of
west
of
broadway
to
get
final
design
plans
going
on
that.
So
really.
H
K
K
K
They
were
wondering
hoping
we
could
be
a
little
more
aggressive
and
looking
for
more
high
comfort
facilities,
and
the
way
I
respond
to
that
so
far
is
what
we're
really
even
focused
on
now
at
this
point
is
the
where
right,
so,
where
should
we
be
thinking
about
making
improvements
and
the
general
types?
And
then
one
of
the
next
steps
after
this
is
to
give
more
detail
to
the
typology
about
what
is
a?
What
is
a
neighborhood
bikeway
like
what
are
the
elements
of
that?
What
does
a
projected
bike?
K
Lane
look
like
and
to
help
us
lay
that
out
in
a
project
description,
and
maybe
some
example,
pictures
of
what
we're
talking
about
and
then
to
help
us
cost
it
and
then,
once
we're
done
with
this,
those
would
move
into
a
conceptual
design
and
final
design
process
that
the
city
public
works
department
would
run
depending
on
how
everything
gets
scheduled
to
to
move
forward.
So
with
that,
I
will
open
it
up
to
any
questions
comments.
Input
of
to
hear
it.
C
Promise,
I'm
not
going
to
ask
too
many
questions,
but
I
one
of
the
items
that
we
talked
to
the
last
meeting
was
incorporating
social
vulnerability
indexes
into
the
assessment
of
need
and
just
because
an
area
doesn't
have
a
path,
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
they
need
that.
You
know
if
that
makes
sense.
I
I
believe
we
had
that
conversation
last
time
chris
yeah,
and
so
I
was
wondering
if
you
were
able
to
look
at
any
of
that
data
and
incorporate
that
into
the
study.
K
So
yeah
we
took
a
look
at
that
and
we,
we
kind
of
determined
a
little
past
the
scope
of
what
we're
scoped
to
do
right
now,
if,
if
there
were
maybe
a
more
easily
digestible
way
to
like
pull
that
in
I'd,
be
happy
to
do
that.
K
I
think
so
yeah
so
that
equity
piece
was
tricky
and
we
did
talk
about
that
last
time,
and
so
we
sort
of
settled
on
geographic
equity,
but
also
the
other
thing
we
noticed
was
missing,
is
north-south
connectivity,
so
there's
also
kind
of
geographic
directional
stuff,
and
so
that
foxy
lotte
and
the
sherman
projects
kind
of
came
out
as
like:
hey
we
need
more
south
here
and,
and
they
go
across
those
two
particularly
go
across
the
whole
city,
or
you
know
the
north
south
part
of
the
city.
K
What
you
will
notice
is
that
this
this
piece
of
englewood
over
here
on
this
west
side,
those
projects
didn't
didn't
score
very
well.
Some
of
them
were
complicated
because
they
were
involved
a
lot
of
agencies,
but
there
are
things
happening
over
there,
because
denver
and
englewood
are
working
on
a
few
things
together.
Denver
is
working
on.
I
think
a
low
bike
lanes
or
or
a
couple
other
things
over
there
too.
So
anyway,
thanks
colin,
that's
that's
kind
of
how
that
played
out.
D
Yeah,
I
actually
have
a
quick
question.
I
don't
want
to
get
too
into
the
weeds
on
this,
but
I
did
have
it
like.
So
let
me
know
if
I'm
in
two
in
the
weeds
on
this,
a
lottie
where
it
claw
crosses
floyd,
has
like
an
offset
and
going
like
there's
a
big
median
there.
So
you
can
either
go
yeah
from
floyd
up
or
you
know
off.
B
D
Lotte,
and
so
is
a
bike
lane,
like
I
guess,
is
that
going
to
be
addressed
so
that
it's
actually
fluid
for
bikers,
otherwise,
there's
not
really
a
way
to
get
onto
a
lottie
from
a
lottie.
K
Super
great
point-
and
that
was
when
we
identified
that
as
a
bike
ride
on
the
walk-in
wheel.
That
was
one
of
the
main
things
that
was
a
problem
with
that
and
maria's
group
as
sagely
looking
ahead
at
that
document,
so
that
I
believe
that
intersection
redesign
is
part
of
the
rfp.
That's
out
right
now,
and
maria
can
tell
us
more
about
that.
J
Sure
yeah,
so
our
the
the
project
that
chris
is
mentioning
would
modify
this
intersection
a
little
bit.
Oh
thank
you
this
that
that's
helpful.
So
you
can
see
here
it
is
an
odd
intersection
and
what
we're
doing
so
you
it
basically
if
you're
coming
south
on
the
lotte,
it
restricts
the
left
turn
movement,
so
you're
only
allowed
to
go
right
on
there,
but
we
know
that
people
are
coming
around
that
island
and
still
taking
the
left.
J
But
but
to
your
point
I
think
that's
a
great
point
that
where
we
can
mention
this,
we
have
not
selected
a
consultant
yet
to
design
this,
but
we
can
certainly
give
that
feedback
to
them
to
say:
okay,
if
we're
planning
this
north-south
connection
along
a
lotte,
how
do
we
make
sure
that
that
dovetails
with
the
east-west
bike
lanes
and
then
make
it
it?
You
know
pedestrian
friend
or
a
bicycle
friendly
to
cross
across
floyd,
if
you're
going
either
north
or
south
on
a
bicycle.
D
And
then
the
other
question
is
actually
at
the
top
of
a
lottie
where
it
meets
the
denver
bike
road.
I
live
right
up
there,
so
I'm
very
aware
of
this
corner
of
yale
and
a
lotte
there's
no
stop
sign,
and
so
people
cut
that
really
close
so
like
for
biker
safety.
I
don't
know
if
a
stop
sign
on
either
side.
Obviously
one
would
be
denver
or
one
would
be
inglewood
would
definitely.
D
It
really
close
coming
from
yale
on
to
a
lottie.
They
just
take
that
turn
really
close,
surprised,
there's
not
been
an
accident
there.
It
does
slow
down,
but
just
thinking
like
if
you're
biking,
it
is
an
area
where
cars
and
bikers
could
have
incidents.
K
J
Yeah
well,
we
can
certainly
look
at
that
yeah.
We
would
not
recommend
stop
signs,
you
know
because
it's
really
a
curve
more
than
an
intersection.
So,
but
I
think
that's
a
great
suggestion.
Chris
is
to
look
at
center
line
striking
and
maybe
some
additional
signage
to
keep
people
in
the
right
side
of
the
street.
A
You
you
did
not
go
into
the
weeds
too
deep.
I
think
that
was
very,
very
reasonable,
so
you
know
chris,
I
see
michelle
go
ahead.
Michelle
go
ahead.
K
H
B
H
K
Great,
did
I
see
chris
dietrich?
Did
you
have
your
hand
up.
E
Yes,
I
I
do.
Thank
you
yeah
thank
you
for
for
presenting
this,
and
you
know,
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
great
things
that
are
going
on
here
and
and
stuff
that
we've
been
talking
about
for
a
while
in
this
committee
and
and
this
walk-in
meal
plan.
Is
it's
really
fun
to
see
it
start
to
be
implemented
here?
I
I
was
kind
of
curious.
You
know,
there's
a
couple
of
things
on
the
map.
E
Let's
see
not
the
two
one
priority,
but
well,
basically,
basically
the
hamdan
and
and
broadway
intersection-
and
you
know,
there's
quite
a
bit
going
on
over
there
and
there
were
a
couple
things
on
these
maps
that
are
kind
of
close
to
there.
I
was
just
curious
if
any
of
these
were
being
tied
into
that
greater
project
that
they're
doing
there.
You
know
regarding
pedestrians
across
there
that
says
that
bridge
and
the
way
that
they're
redoing
the
path
along
the
creek
and
the
other
connections.
E
K
Gotcha
yeah
I'm
just
kind
of
pulling
down
here,
you're
talking
about
this,
the
interchange
project,
that's
in
in
progress
right
now,
so
in
our
so
I'll
say
a
couple
of
things.
So
in
our
walk-in
wheel
plan
we
didn't
have
any
project
recommendations
in
this
area
that
that
interchange
project
is
looking
at
pedestrian.
K
You
know
improvements
at
the
ramp
intersections
and
I
know
there's
been
some
discussion
about.
You
know
the
we're
cutting
sherman
off
and
then
how
the?
How
does
a
little
dry
creek
trail
work
in
there,
so
we
haven't
included
any
of
that
so
far,
because
that's
kind
of
a
thing
that's
going
on
right
and
I
think
the
better
venue
for
those
that
input
is
to
that
project
indirectly,
which
I'm
on
that
project
team
as
well,
and
so
any
input
without
you
guys
have.
K
I
think,
that's
that's
better
than
like
really
wouldn't
be
one
of
our
priority
projects,
because
it's
not
something
the
city
is
going
to
do
on
their
own
in
the
next
few
years.
Right.
E
Well,
you
know
I
just
I
noticed
there
was
kind
of
a
gap
on
your
map
around
that
area
and
it
just
seemed
like
that's
under
construction
right
now
and
it
seemed
like
an
opportunity
to
do
something
there.
So
I
I
was
more
or
less
curious
if
you
guys
were
doing
anything.
I
I
hope
that
there's
at
least
enough
room
for
bike
lanes
and
a
nice
white
pedestrian
on
that
new
bridge
compared
to
the
narrow
one.
We've
got
right
now,
gotcha.
K
All
right,
so
I
do
know
there
I
do
know
there.
Aren't
there
aren't
plans
for
bike
lanes
on
broadway.
I
know
that
I
know
we've
been
focused
on
pedestrian
safety,
especially
there's
quite
a
bit
of
ped
traffic,
especially
now
with
the
new
development
right
on
the
south
side
and
making
the
the
sherman
the
sherman
root
connection
continuous
and
work.
Well.
I
think
those
have
been
kind
of
the
focuses,
but
I
do
appreciate
your
impetus
about
this
sort
of
gap.
We
did
put
old
hampton
avenue
on
here.
K
There
is
in
there's
also
where
he
could
give
us
there's
an
rfp
out
for
a
utility
project,
along
with
hampton
that
also
includes
a
complete
streets
concept,
design
portion,
and
so
that's
been
something
that
different
projects
have
looked
at
over
the
years.
That's
really
exciting
that
that's
moving
forward.
That's
kind
of
in
that
area.
J
K
I
G
J
Jump
in
we'll
definitely
bring
those
quick
comments
back
chris
to
our
member
deidre.
Excuse
me
to
the
project
team
for
the
interchange
and
chris
vogel
saying
is
correct
that
we
were
not
playing
we're,
not
designing
on-street
bike
lanes
on
broadway.
No,
we've
talked
a
little
bit
about
that,
but
just
given
the
speeds
and
the
volumes
we
are
focused
on
a
north
south
south
route,
as
the
map
shows
along
sherman.
J
So
I
think
then
the
project
really
needs
for
the
interchange
project
needs
to
make
sure
that
that
how
that
crossing
occurs
and
does
that
in
a
safe
manner
is
the
critical
element.
E
Yeah
all
right,
thank
you.
I
you
know.
I
know
we
looked
at
a
couple,
different
designs
for
that
intersection
and
looking
at
you
know
what
are
the
different
distances.
Pedestrians
need
to
go
across
there,
and-
and
so
I
appreciate
your
feedback
and
sounds
like
you
guys
got
a
pretty
good
handle
on
that.
I
I
was
also
just
curious.
K
So
yeah
I
I'd
love
to
address
that
in
a
sec
and
I
think
we
can
go
to
that
and
I
can
give
you
my
thinking
about
that
and
we
can
have
discussion
about
it.
But
before
we
move
on
from
from
this
piece,
I
see
that
colin
has
his
hand.
C
I'll
try
to
go
quickly.
Building
on
what
chris
had
said,
I
think
the
city
is
doing
a
project
on
little
dry.
Creek
in
in
that
area.
Will
that
address
the
connection
in
the
plaza
area
as
well,
because
the
little
dry
creek
trail
just
kind
of
ends
no
up
to
the
up
to
the
left
at
the
at
the
dam
or
the
inflatable
dam,
and
that
yeah?
C
When
you
get
up
onto
that
plaza
area,
it
just
goes
away
right
in
there
yeah,
I'm
not
sure
I
know
there's
the
project,
that's
I
guess
at
least
in
planning,
I'm
not
sure
how
far
that
project
has
gone
for
the
reconstruction
of
the
channel
through
there
is
that
extend
up
into
the
closet
area
as
well.
J
Yeah,
so
we're
we're
working
with
mile
high
flood
district
right
now
on
the
channel
improvements,
so
we're
putting
in
a
safety
grade
at
the
end
there
on
the
yeah
right
there,
who's
ever
got
there.
That's
me,
oh
good,
thanks
chris
and
we're
putting
a
safety
grate
there
and
then
basically
removing
all
of
the
concrete
in
the
channel
and
bringing
that
back
to
a
natural
state.
So
mile
high
flood
district
is
overseeing
and
managing
that
project
in
the
design,
and
we
hope
to
construct
that
beginning
next
year.
J
J
Excuse
me
looking
at
that
plaza
area
how
the
different
trails
will
integrate
with
that,
and
so
we'll
certainly
make
a
comment
and
feed
that
back
to
them
that
you
know
what
happens
with
the
trail
because
you're
exactly
right.
It
just
kind
of
ends
in
no
man's
land
there,
but
the
improvements
on
the,
if
you
will
above
the
water
line,
will
really
be
overseen
by
our
parks,
division.
A
And
and
colin
I'll
just
jump
in
here,
real
quick,
that
that
is
absolutely
a
comment
that
we've
we've
discussed
that
etac
for
several
years.
I
want
to
say
now:
is
that
safe
to
say,
remember,
diedrick,
so
it's
not
lost
on
us
in
terms
of
understanding.
That's
a
priority
for
us
as
well
to
try
to
find
a
better
way
for
that.
A
K
Okay,
I
go
ahead.
Sorry,
neil
no.
A
Oh
chris,
I
was
just
gonna
say
just
the
one
comment
that
I
had
was.
I
think
you
would
refer
to
identifying.
I
think
which
one
of
these
corridors
or
so
on
would
be
either.
A
You
know,
have
protected
bike
lanes,
just
bike
lanes
themselves
or
share
rows,
and
I
think
in
your
matrix
there
you
do
kind
of
refer
to
that
there
too,
but
I
view
this
as
almost
a
kind
of
a
two-part
equation
where
you
essentially
have
information
that
this
is
what
the
city's
planning
in
terms
of
you
know,
different
bike,
boulevards
and
so
on,
but
then
also
understanding
the
treatments
that
are
involved
because
of
feedback,
and
I
think
you
responded
to
that
as
well
too.
A
A
K
Yes,
I
can,
I
can
give
you
a
little
a
little
intro
on
that.
K
I'm
just
pulling
up
a
few
photos,
so
so
so
really
when
the
walking
wheel
plan
got
done
in
2015,
you
know
shared
lane
markings
were
a
relatively
new
treatment
and
they
were
being
installed
a
lot
of
places,
and
I
think
what
we
found
over
the
country
over
the
time
is
that
just
the
markings
themselves
aren't
aren't
always
enough
right
to
get
the
feel
to
get
the
speeds
down
to
get
people
to
share
the
space
to
make
it
safer,
and
so
there's
been
a
movement
to
to
not
just
install
markings
on
their
own,
but
in
conjunction
with
traffic
calling
calling
elements,
and
so
so
so
they
just
like
sherman
street,
say,
for
instance,
so
sherman
street.
K
When
we
originally
thought
it
was
like
a
neighborhood
bikeway.
We
were
thinking
about,
share
lane
markings,
it's
the
speeds,
are
kind
of
low,
but
now
we're
thinking.
K
Maybe
that
needs
to
be
a
higher
level
of
treatment,
and
we've
been
looking
at
that
also
with
an
eye
to
implementation
cost
and
also
to
like,
I
guess,
I'd
call
it
like
what
I
call
modifiability.
K
Is
that
a
word
so
so
we're
looking
at
things
that,
like
I'm,
showing
in
a
picture
here
so
some
of
the
ideas
we
would
have
to
put
in
the
in
the
plan
for
recommendation
like
sherman
as
we
described?
What
it
should
be
would
be
photos
like
this
that
say:
hey
you
know
we
should
be
considering
curb
extensions.
K
We
should
be
considering
neighborhood
traffic
circles
to
get
speeds
down.
We
should
be
considering
you
know
median
islands
and
and
right
now
we're
talking
about
all
those
things
being
being
installed
with
sort
of
10
like
I
would
call
temporary
items
but
they're
sort
of
first
phase
implementation
items
right
so
like
there's
these
flex
posts,
they're
pretty
cheap,
they're
easy
to
install.
They
don't
require
drainage
modifications
like
as
soon
as
you
change
curb
lines.
K
Everything
goes
to
heck
with
the
ramps
and
drainage
and
everything,
but
you
get
the
same
effect
on
on
speeds
and
reducing
exposure
for
pedestrians.
Right
and
so
it's
a
something
that
we
could
try
and
see
what
effect
it
has
and
then
they're
easy
to
take
out
if
they're
not
doing
well
or
they're
easy
to
add
more
of
right.
K
Another
thing
would
be
these
neighborhood
traffic
circles.
You
can
kind
of
see
here
that
they're
they're
made
out
of
sort
of
rubberized
asphalt,
curbs
and
paint
and
some
posts
in
the
middle
and
there's
other
ways
to
do
these.
They
portland
shows
them
with.
You
know,
planters
in
the
middle
and
different
things,
so
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
ways
to
do
these,
but
these
are
low-cost
interventions
to
sort
of
get
a
feel
for
what
kind
of
impact
these
have
and
do
they
make
the
street
feel
better.
A
K
Ahead,
so
I
yeah
in
fact
I
just
rode
my
bike
through
here
yesterday,
and
this
isn't
a
picture
from
that,
but
they
they
still
look
similar
to
this
right.
Now
there
were
a
couple
they
had
where
they
had
plant
big,
concrete
planters
in
the
middle.
I
think
they
found
that
those
were
hard
to
maintain
and
that
they
were
sort
of
a
hazard.
K
You
know
so
they've
they're
everybody's
learning,
right
as
we
go,
and
that's
part
of
it
so
and
I'm
not
getting
directly
to
your
question,
I'm
getting
a
second
but
and
then
these
are
some
protected
bike
lanes
where
we
use
flex
posts
and
some
rubberized
curb
to
create
that
space.
These
are
pretty
inexpensive
to
implement.
The
big
thing
with
protected
bike
lanes
is
there's
usually
curb
use
impacts
right.
K
So
if
we
have
parking,
if
we
have
loading
zones,
if
we
have
ada
like
handicap
spaces,
all
those
things
need
to
roll
into
design.
It
makes
it
a
little
more
complicated,
but
they
add
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
comfort
and
safety
to
the
users.
So
I
want
to
share
those,
and
then
I
want
to
tell
you
where,
where
we're
headed
is
so
what
we
would
do
is
we
want
to
take
this
this
map
and
we
have
project
ids
right.
K
So
we've
got
this
this
nice
spreadsheet
as
a
start,
and
then
we
would
add,
you
know
project
descriptions
like
what
is
it
that
this
means?
Is
it
neighborhood
bike
with
these
sort
of
things?
Is
it
a
protected
bike
lane
buffered
bike
lane
we'll
base
that,
on
you
know
our
knowledge
of
the
engineering
design
requirements,
the
amount
of
space
we
have
and
those
things
and
then
that'll
tie
into
the
project
cost
and
so
you'll
have
sort
of
a
framework
right.
K
K
That
says,
we
think
this
is
a
neighborhood
bikeway
neighborhood
by
place
have
these
things
and
then
it
would
be
up
to
an
engineering
team
at
the
next
step
to
to
collect
some
traffic
data
to
figure
out
what
exactly
needs
to
be
done
to
get
the
speeds
where
we
want
them
and
what
devices
should
be
installed
and
all
those
are
sort
of
a
mix
of
art
and
science.
At
this
point,
so
there's
a
long
way
around
answer
and
I
hope
I
answered
it
eventually.
A
No,
you
did
chris
yeah
and
it's
just
something
that
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
in
terms
of
you
know
my
experience
in
in
discussing
this
with
you
know
the
community
and
everything
that
you
know
that
I
think
they're
ecstatic
to
see
a
lot
of
this
progress.
That's
happening
with
it.
With
these
bike
boulevards
and
everything
that
the
city
is
doing
to
advance.
A
You
know
the
bike
lanes
and
doing
that,
but
then
it
always
seems
to
follow
up
with
well
can
we
do
this
and
it's
again,
you
know
asking
the
question
of
protected
bike
lanes
and-
and
you
know,
as
a
preference
to
share
rows
and
doing
that,
and
obviously,
like
I
said,
there's
challenges
to
that
and
and
that's
exactly
what
I'm
speaking
to
which
you
which
you
answered.
So
I
appreciate
that
yeah.
K
Great
and
I
do
know
we
do
have
this
dartmouth
avenue
bike
lanes
outlined
as
in
progress,
and
that
was
based
on
some
information
from
from
maria's
group
that
they're
contemplating
a
request
proposals
for
design
here
and
I'm
not
privy
to
all
the
details
of
that
if
that's
protected
by
glenswood
but
tim
or
maria,
could
probably
give
us
a
little
more
info
if
possible.
J
Yeah,
I
don't
think
we
know
right
now.
We
did
get
a
grant
for
this
area.
That's
that's
highlighted
in
orange
there.
So
I
think
we're
still
trying
to
determine
that
and
and
then
put
out
an
rfp
for
design
services-
probably
later
this
year,
early
part
of
right
after
the
first
the
year
for
that
to
see
what
what
makes
sense.
So
we
are
building
or
denver's
in
the
process.
J
We
started
the
mill
and
overlay
on
zunai,
so
it
starts
there
yeah
and
goes
north,
so
those
buffered
bike
lanes
will
be
installed
within
the
next
two
weeks
as
well.
So
we'll
have
on-street
bike
lanes
on
zunai,
so
it
might
make
sense
if
we
can
make
it
work
there
to
have
on-street
bike
lanes
along
dartmouth
as
well.
K
H
H
Yeah,
I
understand
that
I
I
work
part-time
for
a
tree
company,
so
that's
part
of
where
my
where,
where
I
sit
and
when
you're
talking
about
those
protected
bike
lanes,
you
know
and
oftentimes
we
have
to
when
we're
doing
our
work
and
it's
not
just
tree
people,
it
would
be
even
the
garbage
people,
movers,
etc.
K
Yeah,
it's
great
so
there
there
are
a
lot
of
friction
points
with
implementation
of
these,
so
driveways
access
for
service
trash
right.
So
if
you
have
curbside
trash
pickup,
how
does
that
work?
So
those
are
all
details,
so
so
I'm
on
another
project,
I'm
working
with
denver
very
close
on
implementation
of
these
kind
of
facilities,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
those
little
details
that
need
to
be
figured
out
and
that
happens
sort
of
at
the
next
phase
right.
So
what
we're
going
to
say
is
okay,
we'd
like
to
do
this.
K
This
is
what
we
think
makes
sense
and
then,
when
a
engineering
team
would
go
in,
they
would
look
at
all
that
the
access
needs
all
that
and
see
like
how
much
could
be
protected
and
is
it
feasible
and
you
know
how
would
we
do
it?
But
those
are
great
points
and
that's
come
up
a
lot
in
in
our
previous
work.
H
Well,
it's
it's
sort
of
interesting
because
I
live
along
dartmouth
and
so,
like
I
said,
I
work
for
a
tree
company,
so
I
think
about
there's
a
lot
of
trees
along
because
there's,
there's
residences
in
the
part
of
dartmouth
that
I
live.
But
then
what
we're
talking
about
down
further
west,
where
the
orange
is
that's
a
lot
of
industrial
and
you
have
a
different
problem
down
there
with
you
know
three
wheelers
and
things
like
that,
because
there's
a
lot
of
industrial
industry
down
there.
H
So
I'm
glad
to
hear
you're
thinking
about
all
those
sort
of
little
details
that
will,
like
I
said,
I'm
sure
my
some
of
my
trucks
could
just
mow
those
things
over
not
we'd
want.
K
K
A
D
I
just
had
a
question
so
there's
some
places
where
it
says
pedestrian
improvements.
We
talked
a
lot
about
bike
lanes
and
kind
of
the
share
like
just
biking
but
they're.
The
two
major
ones
sherman
and
fox
and
slash
elatti-
are
for
pedestrian
improvements
as
well.
What
are
I,
what
are
we
thinking
there
like?
What
yeah
specifically
will
be
done.
K
We
we
usually
put
in
like
we'll
put
in
median
islands
or
curb
extensions
at
short
crossing
distances,
we'll
see,
speed,
reductions
in
the
order
of
you
know,
five
to
eight
miles
an
hour.
Average
speed
is
just
pretty
decent,
and
so
that's
kind
of
how
how
we're
thinking
of
that,
and
then
there
are
some
specific
projects
so
like
fox
at
oxford
or
bannock
at
oxford
here,
which
you
know
we've
been
looking
at.
How
do
we
make
it
safer
for
peds
and
bikes
to
get
across
at
these
unsignalized
locations?
K
Right,
and
so
that's
kind
of
our
thinking
is
some
of
these
projects
have
multiple
benefits
and
the
protected
bike
lanes
can
too
they
tend
to
have
a
small
traffic
calming
effect,
but
not
the
same
as
the
neighborhood
bikeway
treatments,
and
they
each
have
a
place
in
the
hierarchy
of
of
streets.
Right,
like
you,
wouldn't
do
a
neighborhood
bikeway
treatment
on
dartmouth,
it's
just
too
busy
and
it's
a
regional
kind
of
facility
or
sub
regional
right,
but
sherman
or
floyd
east
of
broadway.
E
I
have
just
another
further
comment
on
that.
I
appreciate
you
bringing
that
up.
Actually,
you
know
it's
it's
interesting,
because
the
lottery
and
fox
have
some
of
the
skinniest
sidewalks
in
town,
and
so
I
I
think
that
if
there's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
do
something
about
that,
if
we're
going
to
make
that
you
know
put
some
focus
on
that
area,
I
think
some
additional
something
for
the
pedestrians
would
be
good.
E
I
know
it's
really
expensive
we're
not
going
to
tear
up
all
the
sidewalks
all
the
way
through
necessarily,
but
you
know
we
had
a
presentation,
a
couple
meetings
back
from
the
oh,
my
gosh,
the
names
escaped
me,
the
mid-century
modern
neighborhood
over
off
dartmouth,
but
they
were
talking
about.
B
E
Acres,
thank
you.
Yes,
they
were
talking
about
something
about
some
widened,
striping
or
because
they
have
similar
sidewalks
or
no
sidewalks
in
some
cases
where
they
were
doing
something
to
increase
pedestrians,
specifically
friendly
movement
throughout
that
neighborhood.
So
I
don't
know
if
there
might
be
a
corollary
that
one
was
interesting
because
they
literally
had
some
students
that
wanted
to
do
a
study
and
come
and
like
put
some
striping
in
and
study
it
for
free.
E
So
maybe
we
can
do
something
like
that
that
ties
in
with
this
plan,
you
know
we
might
have
some
opportunities
there
as
well.
So
just
wanted
to
pick
you
back
on
that
comment.
Thanks
for
bringing
that
up.
K
Do
you
do
you
see
anyone
else
with
a
question.
A
K
All
right,
okay,
I'm
we
can
come
back.
I
do.
I
know
I've
taken
a
lot
of
time.
I
really
appreciate
your
patience.
This
is
great
discussion.
I
do
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
tier
two
and
the
wayfinding
signage
project.
So
so,
basically,
these
tier
two
projects
are
ones
that
didn't
make
our
cut
right.
They
weren't,
like
our
top
projects,
doesn't
mean
they
aren't
important
or
they're,
not
implementable.
K
They
just
weren't
our
top
ones
that
we
wanted
to
focus
on,
and
I
would
love
it
if
anybody,
if
anybody
sees
any
here
that
they
really
think
should
be
tier
one.
I
love
that
input
to
the
wayfinding
signage
projects,
so
we
we
sort
of
as
we
went
and
scored
these
some
of
them
scored
pretty
well.
Some
were
more
more
down
in
our
list,
but
we
felt
like
they
really
almost
are
a
separate
list
of
things
that
you
might
be
attacked
differently.
K
Some
of
them
involve
dealing
with
the
parks,
department
or
salsa
river
park
and
rec
or
city
of
englewood
and
and
some
of
them
go
with
other
projects.
So
like
this
dartmouth
avenue
one
that
goes
with
the
dartmouth
project
that
we
were
just
talking
about
right,
like
those
things
would
happen
at
the
same
time.
K
So
that's
how
we've
sort
of
put
these
down
here
as
a
separate
item
right
now
and
really
focused
more
on
sort
of
on
the
ground
infrastructure,
as
our
top
tier
one
priority
projects
rather
than
wayfinding.
Knowing
that
like
say,
if
we
did
neighborhood
vikrant
sherman
like
wayfinding
signage,
would
come
along
with
that.
K
So
I'd
love
to
get
input
on.
If,
if
we
think
that's
that's
sort
of
wrong-headed
or
if
you
know
somebody
should
have
moved
up,
I
know
we
did
hear
this
big
dry
creek
one.
It's
probably
the
only
one.
We
really
heard
quite
a
bit.
We
heard
about
at
our
public
open
house
at
the
block
party.
People
are
saying:
hey,
I
didn't
even
know
those
connected,
so
maybe
we
were
maybe
we're
wrong
to
kind
of
bend
this
down,
and
that
should
be
up
but
remember,
dietrich.
E
Yeah,
I
appreciate
you
bringing
it
up
and
I
I
was
kind
of
unclear
from
the
way
this
was
presented,
whether
the
wayfinding
things
were
considered
tier
two
or
if
they
were
in
their
own
bucket-
and
you
know
you
sort
of
answered
some
of
that.
You
know
I
I'm
not
going
to
want
to
dive
into
the
scoring
too
much.
E
But
you
know
some
of
these
are
higher
than
some
of
the
things
that
are
on
the
tier
one
list,
just
a
couple
of
them,
but
you
know
I
I
understand,
there's
probably
some
complexities
with
those
and
you
there
was
lots
of
criteria
and
you
guys
did
the
hard
work
on
that
one.
The
little
dry
creek
trail.
E
You
know,
I
think
a
couple
of
these
that
one
in
particular
as
neil
mentioned,
has
been
a
hot
topic
for
a
long
time
and
for
good
reason,
because
we
have
this
great
greenway
greenbelt
trail
next
to
the
creek.
That
just
disappears-
and
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
history
from
that
area
between
where
it
disappears
and
where
it
reappears,
and
I
understand
there's
some
things
that
because
of
that
history,
make
it
difficult
to
make
a
really
nice
connection.
E
Without
the
you
know,
collaboration
of
lots
of
different
parties,
but
I
think
that
just
as
a
simple
wayfinding
thing,
you
know
not
necessarily
raising
the
river
up
and
putting
a
nice
bike
path.
Next
to
it,
like
we've
seen
in
some
other
plans,
but
just
you
know
some
signage
and
things
that
would
help
people
get
over
to
the
bike
path.
E
You
know
we
talked
about
floyd
avenue,
you
know
even
just
some
signage
and
and
something
that
maybe
it's
some
striping
just
a
clear
path
through
that
parking
lot
to
get
over
to
floyd,
I
think,
would
be
a
huge
improvement
that
can
probably
be
done
with
some
signs
and
some
paint.
So
you
know
I
would
love
to
see
a
little
more
attention
on
that.
E
I'm
not
going
to
get
to
choose
a
priority,
but
that's
a
recommendation
on
my
behalf,
based
on
a
lot
of
feedback
we've
had
also
I
I
just
pointed
out
that
broadway
and
gothic
theater
crossing.
I
I
see
that's
on
the
tier
2
list
and
and
I'm
you
know.
I
think
that
since
we've
done
some
work
at
that
broadway
and
floyd
intersection
and
adding
the
crosswalk
on
the
other
side,
I'm
not
sure
if
we
have.
You
know
data
on
reduction
in
issues
because
of
that
cross.
E
You
know
area
right
there,
but
it
was
a
hot
topic
and
it
seems
to
maybe
not
be
as
hot
of
a
topic
lately,
but
also
the
gothic
hasn't
really
been
very
open
for
the
last
two
years.
So
you
know
there's
that
too.
So
just
to
comment
on
that.
Thank
you
for
coming
back
to
this
stuff.
I
appreciate
it.
K
I
think
I
did
have
a
note
there
that
we
had
heard
that
the
dda
secured
a
grant,
but
we
weren't
sure
the
details
and
I
was
getting
we
didn't
know
who
should
we
talk
to
you
or
do
you
guys?
Does
anybody
here
have
any
knowledge
about
that
for
the
mid
block
crossing
for
the
gothic.
J
Yeah
I
can
chime
in
a
little
bit
chris,
so
we
were
focused
more
on
the
existing
crosswalk
down
in
the
3400
block.
J
We
were
contemplating
putting
in
a
grant
application
to
the
revitalizing
main
streets,
cdot
grant
for
the
gothic
crossing
to
to
actually
build
that,
but
we
didn't
get
it
in
in
time,
so
we
were
actually
and
and
it's
the
dda,
so
our
executive
director
of
the
dda
is
is
kind
of
leading
the
charge
and
right
now
we're
focused
on
the
existing
mid
block,
crosswalk
and
looking
at
putting
in
a
hawk
signal
there
in
lieu
of
the
flashing
yellow
beacons
that
are
in
place
that
are
pet
actuated.
B
K
There
we
are
okay.
Well,
thanks
for
that,
update,
yeah
and
remember
dietrich.
K
Thanks
for
the
input,
I
I
think
I
mean
you
know
what
what
we
wanted
to
do
here
at
the
end
of
screening
is
have
a
manageable
list
right
that
someone
could
comprehend
and
bite
into
and
get
things
done,
and
if
that
list
is
like
30
projects
long,
then
it
gets
hard
and
and
they
have
synergies
with
each
other
right
so
like
when
one
project
gets
so
the
dartmouth
piece
right-
and
maybe
the
wayfinding
piece
should
be
done
the
same
time
and
then,
if
floyd
west
of
broadway.
K
Maybe
that
means
it's
time
to
dig
into
the
flight
eastern
broadway,
so
we're
we're
trying
to
do
is
to
create
groups
of
projects
instead
of
like
one
through
ten
in
priority,
but
maybe
some
of
these
you
know
these
are
not
hard
projects
to
do.
Usually
this
require
a
little
bit
of
coordination
and
thinking
through
so
I'll
talk
I'll.
Take
that
input
back.
I
appreciate
it.
K
K
I
would
say
you
know
we
have
a
november
15
city
council
study
session,
so
I
think
you
know
whenever
the
deadline
is
before
that
for
materials
to
be
in
that's
when
we
want
to
be
done
with
our
draft.
Like
hey
here's,
the
the
draft
recommendations,
here's
the
costs,
I
mean
all
that,
so
we
can.
We
can
communicate
that
to
city
council
real
well,
so
we
have.
K
You
know
a
couple
three
weeks
to
kind
of
get
on
this,
maybe
maybe
three
and
and
then
we
go
to
planning
and
zoning
public
hearing
on
december
7th.
So
those
are
the
next
steps
and,
as
always,
if
anybody
here
wants
to
reach
out,
I
notice
a
lot
of
information
at
once
feel
free
to
to
take
a
look
to
digest
it.
To
call
me
to
email
me
to
call
or
email
john.
K
We
can
talk
it
through
and
and
get
as
much
input.
So
we
want
to
make
this
as
good
as
it
can
be
for
for
what
it
is
right,
which
is
about
finding
things
that
the
city
can
do
right
and
make
things
better
in
the
short
term.
So
with
that,
I'm
gonna
stop
sharing
and
I'm
open
to
any
other
questions
or
I'm
I'll
cede.
My
time.
A
E
Yeah,
you
know
I
I
was
gonna
hold
it
in,
but
since
you
asked
I'm
just
kind
of
curious,
you
know
we
got
the
planning
and
zoning
people
on
on
this
call
as
well,
and
thank
you
guys
for
being
here.
I
was
just
kind
of
talking
a
little
bit
to
that
city
center
area
with
the
little
giant
creek
trail,
but
there's
a
lot
of
stuff.
E
That's
coming
in
that
city
center
area,
some
redevelopment
like
quite
a
bit
on
both
sides
of
hampton,
but
primarily
the
city
center
area,
and-
and
so
I
was
just
kind
of
curious
if
you
guys
had
input
on
maybe
some
things
that
might
be
coming-
that
maybe
we
should
maybe
de-prioritize
some
things
on
this
list
or
prioritize
some
based
on
the
way
that
some
of
the
development
is
going
to
be
coming
in
in
that
area
and
and
some
of
the
changes
that
are
being
made.
So
I
it
just
thanks
for
asking
neil.
H
It's
okay
well,
and
I
don't
have
my
last
name
up,
so
you
don't
really
know
who
I
am.
I
I'm
actually
chair
of
planning
and
zoning
and
we
are
going
through
multiple
processes
right
now,
the
city
center
redevelopment
and
that
whole
thing
is
basically
in
the
hands
of
we
approved
it.
It's
in
the
hands
of
the
city
and
some
consultants,
I
don't
know
exactly,
maybe
colin
or
kate.
You
have
a
status
update
on.
If
city
council
approve
everything
we
did
or
not.
I
I'm
a
little
unclear
on
that.
F
So
yes,
city
council
has
adopted
the
essentially
the
resulting
framework
for
the
property
and
that
essentially
takes
the
property
back
to
an
med1
mixed
use
zone
and
it
removes
the
planned
unit,
development
classification.
F
So
what
the
next
steps
are
is
actually
working
on
a
master
development
agreement
which
will
get
into
more
detail
with
regard
to
each
parcel
within
the
city
center
area
which
uses
are
best
fit
for
those
separate
parcels.
There's
you
know
initial
plans.
We
haven't
seen
a
final
overall
layout
of
the
streets
and
those
sorts
of
things.
F
So
that's
where
we're
at
now,
we've
just
like
I
said,
adopted
the
rezoning
framework
for
that
area.
H
Thank
you
wade.
We
have
also
talked
extensively
about
parking
and
parking
ratios
and
which
is
a
tough
question,
because
one
of
our
commissioners
made
a
really
astute
comment.
H
She
said
englewood's
got
plenty
of
parking,
it's
just
a
matter
of
where
the
parking
is,
and
I
think
that
that
sort
of
sums
sums
up
the
the
situation
with
parking
we
have,
while,
while
they're
working
on
the
master
development
plans
and
working
with
the
consultants
and
things
planning
and
zoning
has
now
moved
on
to
our
chapter
16
of
our
english
development
code,
so
we've
sort
of
done
our
work
so
far
and
we'll
be
returning
back
to
the
development
of
england
city
center
once
that
master
development
agreement
is
further
down
the
road.
C
One
quick
follow-up,
I
guess
maybe
for
waiter
anybody
else
that
might
know
it
is
that
master
development
agreement
proceeding
and
is
that
been
signed
then
or
I
think
the
first
step
was
to
get
the
zoning
adjusted
that
part
it
sounds
like
has
been
finalized.
So
then,
are
we
entering
into
that
agreement
or
is
that
still
in
process.
F
We
there,
I
am,
we
are
hi.
We
are
in
process
of
getting
that
ready
to
start
conversations
with
the
council,
so
it
hasn't
really
effectively
begun
yet
in
terms
of
our
our
discussions
at
the
council
level.
So
that's
that
will
be
the
next
step
coming
up.
Hopefully,
first
of
all,
next
year,
we'll
get
underway
with
that.
A
Remember
diedrich
did
that
help
answer
your
your
question.
There.
E
Sort
of
you
know
we
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
projects
going
through
there
per
for
the
plan
that
was
presented.
It's
kind
of
just
a
a
pedestrian
down.
Englewood
parkway
is
listed
on
there,
which
I
think
is
good.
You
know
I
I'm
I'm
more
curious
about
the
process,
I'm
curious
how
we
can
help
out.
I
I
have
a
lot.
You
know
some
questions
about
it
like
how
much
you
know
input
are
we
able
to
have
on
the
on
the
process?
E
If,
if
there's
a
you
know,
somebody
else
doing
the
master,
development
planning
and
stuff,
so
I'm
kind
of
curious
about
that.
You
know
how
we
can
have
some
input
or
what
we
might
be
able
to
dictate,
depending
on
what
the
extent
of
the
work
that's
being
done
in
the
timelines
and
schedules.
You
know
I
understand
some
of
it's
public,
some
of
it's
private,
so
there's
a
lot
going
on
there,
but
I
think
we've
got
an
opportunity.
I'd
love
to
be
a
part
of
it.
H
Well,
I
I
can
tell
you
that
we
always
welcome
comments
from
the
public
at
our
meetings
and
most
of
them
these
days
are
indeed
often
times
are
public
hearings,
so
you
can
chime
in
anytime.
You
wish
that
would
be
fantastic,
we'd
love
to
hear
from
you.
F
B
G
Document
so
I
do
expect
to
have.
C
One
last
follow-up:
the
downtown
development
authority
would
be
a
good
place
to
cheering
in
on
also,
I
think,
they'll
be
obviously
heavily
involved
with
that
with
those
decisions.
A
Pretty
good,
no
other
comments
at
this
time.
A
Thank
you,
chris
for
walking
us
through
this
very
insightful.
We
really
appreciate
that,
and
will
it
kind
of
give
us
a
path
to
the
future
here
of
what
inglewood
could
look
like
so.
K
A
Very
good,
there's
not
anything
else
on
this
topic,
I
think
we
can
move
back
to
the
agenda.
A
Michelle,
if
you
can
do
that,
appreciate
that
okay,
very
good
so
etac,
chairperson
appointment.
B
A
I
think
this
was
discussed
at
the
last
meeting
as
well,
and
I
think
basically
member
canadian
was
was
voted.
What
would
be
the
next
e-tac
chair
so
happy
to
see
that
I'm
I'm
glad
I'm
hopeful.
This
is
a
peaceful
transfer
of
power.
A
So
greg
and
so
but
really
appreciate
that,
but
I
know
there
have
been
some.
I
guess
some
discrepancy
regarding
our
terms,
and
I
just
wanted
to
talk
to
that
right
now
so
and
I
think
mr
house,
you
had
sent
if
you
can
click
on
that
michelle
please
thank
you.
A
Yeah
from
deputy
director
who's
there,
I'm
just
referring
to
that
so
for
for
some
reason
there
they
had
myself
there
as
basically
etac
chair
until
february
26
or
of
22,
but
I've
been
in
this
capacity
since
september
2019,
and
so
my
two
years
is
up
and
and
pretty
much.
I
would
like
to
pass
the
pass
the
torch
on.
A
That's
my
feelings
on
that
there
too,
for
for
a
few
reasons,
but
mostly
time
related
and
in
doing
that,
but
it
would
just
be
helpful
if,
if
another
member
would
take
that
up
and
at
the
last
etac
meeting,
apparently
there
was
a
vote
and
that
moved
on
to
member
can
addison
so
greg.
I
guess
at
this
time
you
know
if
you
want
to
speak
to
that,
and
and
what
are
your
thoughts
about
just
transferring
over
to
you.
J
H
And
excuse
me,
mr
chair,
is
this
more.
I
mean
I
I'm
sure
those
of
us
here
from
planning
and
zoning
are
happy
to
stay
to
the
end
of
the
meeting,
but
I
don't
want
to
also
yeah
be
in
a
place
that
we
shouldn't
really
be
into.
A
No
matter
what
michelle,
I
was
just
going
to
say
that
thank
thank
you
pnz
for
joining
our
meeting,
and
we
appreciate
that
you
do
if
you
want
to
sign
off
you're
more
than
welcome
to
at
this
time.
Okay,
but
you're,
also
more
than
welcome
to
stay
and
and
and
see
how
how
things
the
inner
workings
of
etac
too,
I
want
to
be
very
open
and
transparent
with
that.
A
A
H
H
I
A
I
Yeah,
I
can
give
you
a
little
more
background.
Michelle's
been
doing
some
looking
back
on
the
beatings
from
2019
to
make
sure
we
have
the
dates
right.
What
she
found
was.
I
It
was
a
an
attempt
to
have
an
election
in
the
february
2019
meeting,
deferring
the
chair
and
vice
chair,
and
it
wasn't
a
forum
at
that
time,
so
it
got
delayed
until
april
and
that
that's
actually,
when
the
last
vote
of
the
chair
and
vice
chair
for
the
committee
was
where
I
remember
sarno
and
remember,
lewis
were
voted
as
chair
and
vice
chair
at
that
time.
So
it
was
the
meeting
in
may
is
actually
when
their
term
started.
So
it
has
been
over
two
years
now
for
the
term.
I
So
we
definitely
it's
time
to
time
to
re-elect
the
members
there
and
with
the
election
of
member
madison.
As
the
chair,
we
also
made
the
opportunities
to
select
a
vice
chair
as
well,
so
those
two
positions
typically
get
selected
at
the
same
meeting.
Those
are
the
two
officers
for
the
committee,
so
we
recommended
to
elect
a
vice
chair
this
evening
to
serve
alongside
member
madison.
I
For
that,
basically,
what
we're
recommending
is
to
go
through
the
february
2022
meeting
there,
and
then
the
new
committee
gets
appointed
each
february,
but
our
recommendation
would
be
to
to
have
the
election
in
february
of
each
year
to
have
the
chair
and
vice
chair
be
appointed
in
those
meetings.
But
there's
always
a
at
the.
I
Committee
appointment
there,
so
we
don't
have
this
mid
midterm
elections
here
that
kind
of
confused
everything.
So
our
thought
would
be
to
get
a
chair
tonight
to
serve
through
february
and
then
have
another
vote
in
in
february.
For
the
chair
of
vice
chair.
A
So
if
I'm
understanding
this
correctly,
your
suggestion
is
so
for
the
vice
chair
and
and
just
to
clarify
as
well.
Here
too.
So,
what's
in
the
article
two,
there
item
two
for
under
officers,
officers
of
the
committee
shall
be
elected
for
two
two-year
term
no
officer
shall
serve
in
the
same
capacity
for
more
than
two
consecutive
terms,
so
it's
very
possible
vice
chair
lewis,
who
isn't
in
attendance
this
evening,
could
very
well
be
also
going
for
a
second
term,
and
so,
but
we
would
still
need
to
vote
on
that
as
well.
I
The
city
council
appoints
the
members
for
the
four-year
term.
Every
february.
There's
a
staggered
three
three
members
and
then
two
members
each
year
to
get
appointed
for
the
four-year
term.
So
yeah
member
lewis
could
become
an
officer
against
what
that's
saying
he
couldn't
serve
as
an
officer
for
another
two-year
term.
If
you
wanted
to.
B
A
Okay,
so
is
your
suggestion,
then,
is
that
I
continue
on
as
chair
until
february.
Is
that
what
your
suggestion
is
here.
I
I
We
have
a
start
when
their
committee
is
formed
each
when
the
appointments
are
made,
then
there's
a
consensus
among
the
current
members
there
of
the
chair
and
vice
chairs,
but
the
thought
would
be
to
have
someone
serve
for
these
next
four
or
five
months
here
and
then
have
an
election
to
get
things
back
on
the
schedule
of
every
february.
A
Okay
and
so
so
potentially
then
it
would
be
that
it
could
very
well
be
that
member
can
addison
becomes
chair
following
this
meeting,
and
then
we
reconvene
what
would
be
in
february
for
what
would
be
elections
at
that
time
to
kind
of
just
set
a
starting
point.
That
would
be
beneficial
for
the
committee
and
the
city
in
terms
of
february.
I
I
Correct
yeah,
typically,
the
the
appointments
of
the
officers
are
in
february
when
the
the
committees
are
formed,
when
the
the
members
are
appointed,
there's
typically
that's
when
the
officers
are
appointed
at
that
same
same
time,
so
it
sets
the
the
annual
employment
thing
with
the
members.
B
A
Okay,
I
I
think
I'm
in
agreement
with
that
remember
can
addison,
though,
but
you
know
again,
opening
this
up
to
con
discussion
for
the
group.
A
D
I
do
have
a
simple
question
about
it:
let's
say
member
connection
serves
this
four-month
period
and
then
is
elected.
Could
he
be
re-elected
again
the
after
that
in
the
following
february,
or
would
that
be
complicated
because
he
served
a
five-month
term
and
it's
actually
just
a
shortened
term
since
the
bylaws
state
that
it's
a
two-year
term,
not
the
five-month
term?
So
it's
like
an
interim
term.
I
Correct
yeah,
that
is
where
the
confusion
is
by
having
it
be
mid-term
like
this,
where
the
officers
were
elected
midterm,
it
does
create
a
little
confusion
there.
I
I
think
the
way
I'd
interpret
that
was
that
he
could
be
re-elected
in
february
for
another
term
if
he
wanted
to
continue
to
serve
after
february.
That
would
be
a
reasonable
thing
to
do.
B
D
B
A
Do
you
have
any
comments,
any
feedback
to
this
conversation.
G
Just
one
question
on
something
that
you
said:
deputy
director
who's,
so
vice
chair,
lewis,
was
elected
in
february
of
2019.
Is
that
right.
I
Actually,
it
was
in
it
was
the
april
2019
meeting
where
a
member
sarno
and
member
lewis
were
elected
as
chair
and
vice
chair.
I
So
what
happened?
The
minutes
from
the
meetings
were
incorrect.
Michelle
looked
through
those
and
the
minutes
didn't
accurately
reflect
what
happened
at
the
meeting.
It
was
actually
in
april
when
the
election
was
that
the
minister
incorrect
and
she
updated
that
to
me.
That's
where
the
confusion
about
september
was.
It
was
actually
april.
It
wasn't
september.
So
it's
been
well
over
two
two
years
now
that
they've
been.
G
So
then
do
we
need
to
have
vice
chair
elections
tonight
it
wasn't
on
the
agenda,
so
it
feels
like
a
pretty
big
thing
to
try
to
do
so.
We
should
wait
a
little
bit
yeah,
okay,.
A
I
guess
remember
canadians
so
there's
an
understanding
here
and
of
course,
for
the
group
then
following
tonight's
meeting,
then
the
role
of
chair
will
fall
to
you
beginning
immediately.
I
I
suppose
right
and
okay
and
then
and
then
we'll
go
from
there.
Okay,
yeah
well
very
good
and
congratulations
greg.
B
A
J
Yeah,
so
it
would
really
be
at
the
committee's
discretion
if
they
want
to
have
a
new
vice
chair
election
at
the
next
meeting
or
if
we
just
want
to
keep
member
lewis
in
there.
As
the
vice
chair
until
the
until
february.
I
think
given
where
we
are,
we
can.
I
know
it's
demanding
to
be
the
vice
chair
role,
but
I
think
he
he'd
probably
be
okay
with
continuing
for
the
next
few
months
and
then
maybe
we
shoot
for
february
for
new
new
elections
for
both
positions,
just
a
suggestion.
A
And,
and
for
the
sake
of
ease,
I
think
that's
acceptable
as
well
too
directed
andrea
for
that.
Your
suggestion
there,
just
so
we're
not
constantly
in
that
I
mean
we're
four
months
away,
so
I
don't
think
that
would
be
an
issue
as
well
too
so,
okay,
well,
very
good!
Well,
thanks
for
that,
and
and
yeah
good
to
have
you
on
board
com,
chair
can
addison,
I
just
I'll
say
that
future
chair,
so
all
right,
very
good.
Let's
move
on
to
the
next
agenda
item.
B
A
Yeah-
and
I
think
this
pretty
much
just
reiterates
what
we
had
discussed
here
on
a
certain
level
here
regarding
members
expiration
for
our
terms
and
doing
that,
and
it's
an
overview
here.
All
members
are
eligible
for
reappointments
and
pretty
much
if
you're
interested,
please
reapply
that
there's
a
site
there
send
a
lot
of
recommendations
from
cherokee
addison
to
michelle
there,
and
our
deadline
would
be
november,
15
2021..
A
So
with
that,
I
want
to
bring
to
light.
I
mean
somebody
might
already
know
this,
but
member
o'connell
has
resigned
from
the
committee
as
well
too,
so
we
wish
her
well
honorary
endeavors
really
appreciate
her
her
insights
while
she
was
on
the
committee.
I
want
to
thank
her
for
that,
but
also
speaking
of
that
member
whitney
was
an
alternate
member
requested
becoming
what
would
be
a
permanent
member
on
the
committee.
B
B
B
Bit
confused
here,
I
didn't
think
that
once
you're
an
alternate
that
once
there's
an
open
position.
B
B
A
full
quorum,
the
alternate,
becomes
a
voting
member.
So
are
we
just
saying
in
terms
of
just
elevating
somebody
from
an
alternate
to
a
regular
member
of
of
this
commission
that
we
have
to
go
through
that
process,
but
that's
correct.
G
B
B
A
A
B
A
Okay,
very
good.
Okay,
I
could
do
that
future
cherokee
addison
as
my
parting
party
parting
task
action
item
as
as
chair.
B
B
E
A
F
A
No,
but
it
was
interesting
because
I
do
think
you
know
remember
diedrich
going
back
in
time.
I
I
recall
that
we
had
conversations
about
that
in
terms
of
elevating
members
once
you
know
if
there
was
a
vacancy
on
the
committee,
then
essentially
you
know
who
was
an
alternate
member
elevating
them,
and
we
discussed
that
at
the
etac
meetings
there.
Perhaps
there
was
a
follow-up
letter
as
well.
That
went
along
with
that
following
that,
but
I
think
that
was
part
of
it.
So
we
were
just
going
to
talk.
E
A
A
Okay,
all
right.
Well,
it
feels
good,
I
think,
to
just
get
this
situated,
because
I
think
there
had
been
some.
You
know,
discrepancies
and
over
time
and
everything-
and
I
kind
of
had
a
feeler
out
there,
for
you
know
when
two
years
was
up
and
everything
and
and
thought
like
well
and
the
first
meeting
deputy
director
who's
to
go
back
to
that.
I
think
I
physically
was
called
out
as
being
chair.
Sarno
was,
I
think,
it's
september,
so
you
know
with
that.
A
H
A
It
on
glad
it's
going
to
remember,
can
addison
and
we
can
sort
this
all
out
and
kind
of
get
realigned.
If
you
will
within
the
committee
on
terms
for
everyone.
So,
okay,
anything
else,
oh,
go
ahead!.
I
The
meeting
minutes
were
incorrect
and
we
found
out
we've
got
those
corrected
now
to
actually
show
when
things
actually
occurred
there.
So
that's
we
got
that
straightened
out
now
when
things
happen,.
A
Well,
thank
you
for
that
deputy
director
who's
yeah.
They
feel
good.
It
feels
good,
just
like
I
said
just
to
have
that
reset.
So
we
understand
this
is
where
we're
at
and
and
it
just
it's
a
clear
path
forward.
So
thank
you.
A
Okay,
with
that,
let's
move
on
to
the
next
agenda
item
director's
choice,
director
d'andrea.
J
Yeah,
I
I
already
updated
you
on
the
windermere
bike
lanes
and
the
zoonite
bike
lanes,
so
I'll
leave
the
project
updates
at
that.
I
think
the
only
other
thing
is
we
need
to
check
with
the
city
clerk's
office.
We
actually
have
veterans
day
is
a
city
holiday
and
that's
when
our
next
meeting
in
november
lies.
J
So
I'm
not
sure
if
we
can
hold
a
meeting
if
there's
interest
in
in
perhaps
moving
it,
but
we'll
get
a
communication
out
to
the
committee
tomorrow,
but
just
to
plant
a
seed
in
your
head
that
we
may
need
to
move
it,
maybe
either
a
week
ahead,
probably
given
thanksgiving
or
maybe
even
sometime
during
that
week,
we
could
move
it
to
like
tuesday
or
wednesday
night
of
that
week.
So
just
wanted
to
give
a
heads
up
on
that,
but
otherwise
no
further
information.
Thank
you.
Chair.
A
Okay,
thank
you
director,
andrea
for
that
yeah,
okay,
moving
on
to
your
chairperson's
choice,
and
I
think
this
ties
into
director
andrea,
where
you're
talking
about
with
that
november
11th
date,
I
think
courtesy
of
member
can
addison
who
sent
me
and
if
I
can
go,
let
me
try
to
zoom
out
of
here
and
get
to
my
window,
but
there
was
a
correspondence
we
we
received
reach
out
from,
and
member
can
ask
and
if
you
can
help
me
out
here.
G
A
I
believe
yeah,
and
that
was
colin
weddleworth
that
reached
out
to
us,
so
he
initially
wanted
to
present
tonight.
I
believe
on,
what's
kind
of
some
of
the
developments
there,
what
they're
working
on
and
trying
to
kind
of
integrate
that
with
what
our
etac
and
and
some
of
the
facilitating
some
connections,
of
course,
and
understanding
what
their
plans
are
and
our
group
as
well
too.
So
that
was
it
he
wanted
to
present.
But
because
pnz
was
here
this
evening,
thought
it
would
not
be
thought
it
would
be
a
conflict.
A
So
if
we
do
want
to
move
that
date,
we'll
probably
have
to
reach
out
to
to
call
in
and
suggest
that
you
know
just
keep
him
informed
of
that
if
he
still
wants
to
present
at
that
time,.
B
A
There
any
anything
else,
remember
ken
addison,
that
you
add
in
regards
to
his
presentation
or
to
the
group,
no
okay,
yeah,
and
I
think
that's
you
know
again.
If
that's
there's
any
comments
on
that,
but
I
guess
we
can
send
the
correspondence
or
whomever
to
the
city
or
who
have
you
about
what
is
being
proposed
here,
but
this
is
absolutely
the
information
that
just
come
through
recently
for
us
the
outreach
from
this
from
this
person
here
and
this
group.
A
So
let's
see
here
also-
and
I
just
want
to
finish
up
with
you
know-
I
I
don't
want
to
just
just
be
the
person
just
talks
about
the
potholes
out
there.
I
just
also
wanted
to
commend
some
of
the
good
things
that
I
see
in
the
city
there
too,
and
and
I've
noticed
that
you
know,
there's
been
some
striping,
that's
gone
down.
A
I've
noticed
that
there's
some
back
plates
that
were
changed
for
the
traffic
signals
you
know
and
and
that
and
so
just
want
to
point
out
that
it's
noticed
and
it's
it's
an
improvement.
And
so
we
appreciate
that
I
want
to
give
an
attaboy
to
chris
groth,
even
though
he's
not
here
right
now.
But
if
that
is
the
group,
and
that's
that's
doing
this
and
of
course
public
works
in
general-
really
appreciate
that.
I
think
it's
very
visible
and
it's
because.
A
Well,
thank
you.
That's
all
I
have
so.
Let's
move
on
to
the
committee
members
choice
and
we'll
start
off
with
remember
diedrich.
E
Oh
thanks,
neil,
so
a
couple
of
a
couple
of
comments
and
a
couple
of
questions.
I
understand
that
vice
chair
lewis
is
not
here
and
we
may
have
needed
to
take
further
action.
Our
last
meeting
with
a
you
know
chair
election
and
stuff,
but
I
just
wanted
to
offer
up
that.
E
You
know
if
member
canadian
is
unavailable
and
and
member
lewis
you
know,
having
not
had
a
replacement
selected.
I'd
be
happy
to
you
know,
fill
in
as
a
backup
as
that,
if
something
happens
so
just
want
to
offer
that
up,
I'm
happy
to
help
out
there.
E
Secondly,
with
everything
edison
and
member
sardo
being
up
for
reappointment,
I
have
appreciated
working
with
both
of
you
guys
and
I
encourage
you
to
reapply.
It's
been.
It's
been
good
having
you
on
the
board
and
I
like
working
with
you
guys
so
stick
around.
Please.
E
Let's
see
and
then
two
questions,
I
think
these
are
probably
both
for
maria.
So,
first
of
all,
just
if
you
had
any
general
update
on
the
trash
haulers
study
and
kind
of
where
that's
at
I'm
voting.
That
first
word
in
front
of
it,
because
it's
a
little
bit
leading,
but
the
study
around
the
trash,
hauling
policies
and
and
companies
in
the
city.
J
So
we
do
have
the
rfp
out
again
and
we
had
four
companies
attend
our
mandatory
pre-proposal
meeting
four
different
waste
hauling
companies.
J
So
we
responded
to
questions
and
they're
now
formulating
their
proposals,
and
we
will
see
those
on
november
4th
so
we'll
be
able
to
give
a
more
robust
update
on
just
what
we
received
at
our
next
meeting
and
then
also
lay
out
I'll
put
a
formal
memo
together
to
lay
out
the
kind
of
the
timeline
for
what
we
anticipate
doing
that
public
outreach
and
information
before
we
would
take
that
to
a
vote
in
front
of
the
city
council.
E
Thank
you
a
second
question
for
you,
so
I
live
in
an
area
that
is
zoned
and
has
seen
a
lot
of
action
with
duplexes
and
triplexes
coming
into
the
area,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
am
happy
to
see
is
the
oh,
and
this
comes
from
questions
from
the
neighbors.
But
I've
also
noticed
it
around
right.
They
are
paving
the
alleys
behind
some
of
these
redevelopment
areas,
which
is
something
that's
kind
of
helping
towards
the
long-term.
E
You
know
thing
that
we've
been
working
towards
and
the
the
question
from
actually
from
one
of
my
neighbors
was,
you
know
they.
E
The
situation
is
that
on
their
block,
the
alley
was
paved
and
it
seemed
like
it
was
at
a
height
and
angle
that
may
have
not
necessarily
made
sense
for
the
alley,
and
you
know
I
said
I'll
I'll
go
ask
about
it
and
I
understand
that
there's
a
lot
of
gravel
alleys
and
they
may
not
even
be
you
know
quite
graded
at
the
right
level
as
they
are
anyways
necessarily
depending
on
when
they've
been
created
and
lots
of
things.
E
E
J
Okay,
yeah
and
mayor
pro
tem
is
familiar
with
this
one
as
well,
and
I'll
actually
turn
it
over
to
tim.
To
talk
a
little
bit
about
this,
he
has
more
detailed
information
and
if
you
could
just
give
a
brief
update
on
that
tim.
I
Sure
yeah,
so
that
is
a
developer
paid
value
there
and
the
question
is
verifying
that
they
paved
it
in
accordance
with
their
construction
plans.
The
plans
show
that
the
rate
of
the
concrete
should
naturally
creatively
there
before
so
we're
going.
I
That
to
make
sure,
because
it
does
look
a
little
raised
when
you're
out
there-
it
does
appear
like
it-
doesn't
match
into
what
was
there
before.
So
we're
going
to
get
the
as-built
elevations
on
that,
just
to
verify
that
that
alley
was
constructed
in
accordance
with
the
approved
plans
and
make
sure
it's
done
right,
but
the
baileys
are
paid
to
make
sure
that
they
drain.
We
want
to
make
sure
the
alley
water
and
alley
drains
to
the
lower
end
of
the
alley.
I
So
there
are
times
where
sometimes
the
alley
is
a
little
bit
higher
than
the
adjacent
driveways
to
make
it
make
sure
that
the
alley
can
drain
the
driveways.
Aren't
they
won't
always
design
for
the
the
same
elevation
in
the
alley.
Some
are
higher,
some
are
lower
and
we've
got
a
few
properties
are
a
little
bit
lower
than
the
actual
alley.
That
creates
some
issues
at
times,
but
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
the
alley
itself
can
drain.
E
All
right,
well,
I
appreciate
that
you
guys
it
sounds
like
I'm,
not
the
first
person
to
bring
it
up,
so
I
appreciate
you
guys
looking
into
it
and
and
yeah
I
did.
I
did
go
by
there
and
you
know
there
are
some.
You
know
driveways
that
are
about
a
a
full
foot
lower
than
that
concrete
level
kind
of
in
that
area.
E
But
you
know
if
the
water's
got
to
drain
out
of
the
alley
and
somewhere's
gotta
be
the
high
point
and
wherever
that
ends
up,
you
know
that
alley's
pretty
flat,
so
it
probably
has
to
be
somewhere
closer
to
the
middle.
So
I
understand
that
as
well,
but
thank
you
guys
for
looking
into
that
that
more
than
answers
my
question
thanks
and
that's
it
for
me
thanks
everybody
for
for
all
the
participation
tonight.
A
Thanks
bender
diedrick,
very
good.
Let's
move
on
to
member
whitney.
D
Yeah,
thank
you
so
much.
I
just
had
a
quick
question
or
something
to
throw
on
the
radar
where
winslow
crane
was
and
they're
building
a
big
apartment
complex.
At
that
same,
you
know.
In
the
last
couple
years,
ironworks
village
got
put
up
and
the
foundry
apartment
complex
also
got
put
up,
so
we
have
a
lot
more
traffic
just
going
from
galipago
to
bates
in
that
round.
So
I
was
I'm
not
sure.
D
If,
with
the
apartment,
complex
they've
talked
about
traffic
flow,
but
I
imagine
it
will
increase
out
to
base
as
well
as
down
to
galipago
and
just
kind
of
around
there.
So
not
something
we
need
to
worry
about
right
now,
but
just
keep
on
our
radars
ls,
and
it's
probably
already
on
radars
as
well.
So.
J
Yeah,
we're
we're
also
receiving
concerns
and
complaints
and
winslow
isn't
even
that
site
isn't
even
open
yet.
So
this
goes
back
to
we're
working
our
planning
and
zoning,
or
the
planning
department
as
part
of
community
development,
is
working
on
updating
our
codes,
and
so
a
lot
of
it
falls
to
the
parking
requirements
for
new
developments
and
how
many
parking
spots
we
require
on
site
versus
on
the
street,
and
so
they
are
looking
at
that
right
now,
our
parking
ratio
is
is
maybe
not
in
keeping
with
what
people
might
expect.
J
So
that
is
going
to
be
one
point
that
they're
looking
at
is:
do
we
have
enough
or
do
we
require
enough
off
street
parking
and
or
are
people
just
using
the
the
street
because
it's
convenient
or
are
they
using
it
because
they
simply
have
nowhere
on
site
to
park
their
vehicles
yeah.
Thank
you
coming
along.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
D
Yeah
mike
my
comment
actually
wasn't
on
the
parking
I'm
a
little
nervous,
so
I
don't
really
deal
with
the
parking
there.
So
the
question
is
actually
dealt
more
with
the
speed
because
there's
no
stop
sign
and
that
if
people
do
park
I
guess
it
kind
of
does
you
have
the
bmw,
maintainer
or
maintenance
shop
there,
and
then
you
also
have
street
parking
there.
So
people
do
park
there.
They
basically
have
a
straightaway
until
the
stop
sign,
which
is
like
five
blocks
down
both
ways.
J
Action:
okay,
yeah.
We
can
certainly
take
a
look
at
the
speeds
out
there
and
one
of
the
items
that
we're
working
on
internally
and
one
of
the
projects
for
the
city
is
a
neighborhood
traffic
calming
program.
J
So
we're
gonna
start
to
develop
that
in
the
early
part
of
2022,
and
it
would
address
things
just
like
that.
So,
instead
of
looking
like-
maybe
just
at
one
intersection
but
holistically-
let's
say
a
long
baits
in
the
segment
you
mentioned.
Is
there
something
that
we
can
do
and
those
things
that
chris
vogel
saying
pointed
out
those
little
traffic
circles
or
different
things
that
we
could
do
might
be
very
applicable
types
of
solutions
to
help
slow
some
of
that
traffic
down.
D
A
Thank
you,
member
whitney
for
your
comment
there
and
thanks
director
to
andrea
for
responding
to
that
appreciate
it
and
let's
move
on
to
member
can
addison.
G
Already,
the
only
thing
on
my
mind
tonight
for
tonight
is
just
I
happened
to
notice
at
the
former
bullock,
mortuary
site,
lafayette
and
east
hampton
avenue
that
the
stop
sign
got
knocked
over
so
didn't
know
if
you're
aware
of
that,
but-
and
it
seems
like-
maybe
it
was
it's
sort
of
you
know
interesting,
given
our
our
conversation
about
the
traffic
there
but
and
the
crashes
at
that
area,
it
seems
like
maybe
you
know,
could
just
be
like
a
tractor
working
on
that
project
or
some
kind
of
a
big
truck
hit
into
it.
A
Okay,
well,
thank
you
for
that.
That's
obviously
very
important
make
sure
those
stop
signs
are
in
place
there.
So
a
good
catch
on
that
greg.
So
absolutely,
and
now
that's
brought
to
us
he's
attention
we'll
get
that
rectified.
Hopefully,
here
very.
B
A
B
A
K
A
Pretty
interesting
how
the
sausage
gets
made
right,
that's
right,
that's
it!
That's
it!
So
no!
We
appreciate
it
again.
You
know
your
your
your
presentation
and
walking
us
through
that
very
important
and
consequential
to
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
here.
Partnering
with
us.
I
appreciate
that
so
yeah.