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1. Chair Sarno Called the Meeting to Order at 6:03 pm.
2. Call to Order & Roll Call
3. Approval of Minutes
a. November 12, 2020
4. Public Forum
5. New Business
a. Bike Lane Safety Discussion
b. Platte River Trail/Mary Carter Greenway Proposed Detour Discussion
6. Director's Choice
7. Chairperson's Choice
8. Committee Member's Choice
9. Chair Sarno Adjourned the Meeting at 7:12 pm.
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A
A
A
Chris,
lorraine,
councilman,
sierra,
very
good,
hey
all
right!
Well,
I
think
we
could
probably
get
started
if
someone
else
decides
to
jump
in
another
member
at
that
time,
then
we'll
of
course
grant
them
that
access,
but
I
think
for
right
now
we
can
just
get
started
here
and
do
that
so,
okay,
lorraine,
this
this
always
comes
up.
Do
we
want
to
put
the
agenda
up
on
the
screen
there
and
you
would
be
better
served
if
you
would
do
that
or
do
you
want
me
to
do
that.
A
A
A
The
time
is,
I
believe,
602
603,
pm
and
lorraine.
If
you
would
well,
I
guess
the
first
item
of
business.
There
would
be
the
chair
starting
to
approve
the
agenda.
I'll
concur
with
that.
I
did
do
that.
Second
night
of
business
would
be
the
call
to
order
and
roll
call
and
lorraine
if
you
want
to
guide
us
through
that.
D
A
E
C
A
A
So
this
is
was
brought
to
our
attention,
courtesy
of
member
o'connell
and
tiffany.
I
do
if
you
want
to
speak
to
that.
Please
just
go
ahead
there.
I
did
see
your
email
and-
and
I
believe
you
were
you
either
screen
captured
or
I
don't
know
if
you
received
a
correspondence
from
someone
regarding
a
safety
being
in
those
bike
lanes
and
perhaps
just
an
approach.
The
city
should
be
taking
to
to
those
bike
lanes.
C
Yeah,
it
was
just
a
really
great
tweet.
I
saw
online.
Actually
that
said
that
you
know
when
city
planners
are
are
making
bike
lanes.
They
should
walk
the
bike
lane
themselves
and
if
they
don't
feel
safe,
then
it's
unreasonable
to
expect
the
cyclists,
who
will
be
using
the
lane
to
feel
safe
and
also
thinking
like.
Would
you
let
your
kid
ride
to
school
in
that
bike
lane
and
if
it's
not
meeting
those
standards,
then
is
it
really
good.
A
Okay,
yeah
well
agreed
to.
I
think
that
you
know
the
safety
of
all
pedestrians
and
or
cyclists
and
motorists
it's
across
the
spectrum
there
that
anything
that
we're
or
the
city
is
doing
with
design
and
the
roadway
should
encompass
that
I
would,
I
would
ask-
and
I
think,
if
director
andrea,
if
you
want
to
speak
to
this
for
a
second
there,
but
the
the
city,
I'm
sure
follows
all
guidelines
according
to
mutcd
and
other
manuals
in
regards
to
that
correct
in
terms
of
bike
lanes
and
their
placement
within
the
corridors.
F
F
You
know
as
you
as
you
might
want.
You
know
to
have
an
extra
foot
or
two
of
buffer
on
the
side
of
you
between
you
and
the
travel
lane.
Definitely
you
know
it's
not
ideal,
so
I
think
that's.
The
difference
is
yes
to
chairman
sarno's
point
we're
not
going
to
design
it
unsafely,
so
we're
going
to
meet
all
those
design
standards,
but
it's
certainly
probably
far
from.
A
If
you
had
a
a
brand
new
roadway
and
you
can
dictate
the
amount
of
right-of-way,
that's
going
to
be
acquired
up
front
so
forth,
it's
it's
an
easier
thing
to
be
able
to
really
draft
and
and
design
whatever
you
like,
it's
kind
of
an
open
canvas,
but
I
understand
the
challenges
that
the
city
faces
with
that.
So.
F
Yeah,
another
point
is:
maybe
it's
an
evolution
too.
So
with
dartmouth
you
know
we,
we
tried
to
squeeze
and
keep
the
parking
to
keep
people
happy
and
try
and
get
the
bike
lane.
So
again
it
meets
criteria
but
to
make
those
bike
lanes
more,
feel
more
safe
and
be
more
safe.
We
could
take
elena
parking
off
and
maybe
that's
our
next
evolution
and
discussion
is
oh
they're.
C
Yeah,
I
think
that
would
be
awesome,
particularly
the
eastbound
lane
of
dartmouth,
between
broadway
and
lincoln.
The
bike,
lane
kind
of
makes
a
little
veer
to
accommodate
the
street
parking,
and
it's
just
so
narrow
right
there
and
you
always
get
caught
in
the
rush
of
traffic
from
the
light.
It's
just
it's
a
little
bit
hair-raising
and
I'm
a
pretty
experienced
cyclist.
C
And
I
think
you
know,
I
think
that
would
only
affect
parking
for
one
house
and
they
could
park
on
lincoln.
So
I
don't
know
that
it
would
be
too
much
of
an
ask
to
eliminate
you
know
just
that
one
one
bit
of
parking
and
just
the
the
lane
width
itself.
The
bike
lane
is
quite
narrow.
My
handlebars,
I
think,
actually
overhang
both
edges.
C
F
Yeah
we
could
certainly
reach
out
to
the
neighbors
there.
For
that
block
and
just
say:
hey,
you
know
this
is
what
we're
considering
and
see
how
much
pushback
we
got.
If
you
recall
where
we
up
on
dartmouth
circle,
we
had
that
request
for
a
crosswalk
that
we
ended
up
putting
at
race
and
we
took
the
parking
off
on
the
north
side
there.
F
Yeah,
so
you
know
maybe
there's
some
understanding.
You
know,
and
I
think
that
really
turned
out
well
and
and
looks
nice
there
and
I
think
it
ended
up.
Maybe
three
houses,
maybe
four.
You
know
that
affected
their
parking.
So
I
think
again,
maybe
it's
not
a
whole
stretch
approach
but
location
by
location.
Maybe
it
does
work
with
that
with
explanation
and
under
some
understanding
from
that
property
owner,
so
we
can
sort
that
out
to
them
and
just
see
how
that
goes
over.
That
would
be.
C
A
D
A
a
couple,
different
thoughts
on
the
subject,
so
the
the
research
that
I've
read
says
that
if
you
have
a
protected
bike
lane
with
like
curbs
or
concrete
or
something
that
creates
a
physical
barrier
between
the
cars
and
the
bikes
that
that
reduces
the
bike,
the
bike
car
crashes.
Basically,
it
makes
it
a
safer
space.
D
If
you
have
a
painted
bike
lane,
that's
sort
of
neither
like
the
statistics
say
that
it's
not
noticeably
safer
or
more
dangerous,
but
using
sharrows
actually
can
is
statistically
shown
to
be
more
dangerous
for
bikers
in
that
area,
and
I
thought
that
that
was
like
a
it's
sort
of
a
counter-intuitive
thing
and
was
really
surprising
to
me
to
read
that
so
it's
sort
of
like
cheryl
was
made
dave,
denver
famous,
but
also
a
bit
of
a
drawback.
So
I
I-
and
I
was
thinking
about
that.
D
D
Between
santa
fe
and
broadway
on
oxford,
that's
painted
and
in
some
places
it's
protected.
But
then
I
think
east
of
broadway
that
that
bike
path
is
is
continued.
But
it's
just
continued
as
sharo's,
which
I
think
is
relatively
okay
in
that
situation,
because
it's
a
pretty
low
traffic
street
in
terms
of
car
traffic
but
yeah.
D
You,
member
o'connell,
just
about
how
important
it
is
to
think
about
like
as
a
a
bold
cyclist
or
you
know,
a
cautious
cyclist
right
like
there's
different
classifications
of
of
cyclists
and
pedestrians
and
where
are
they
comfortable,
walking
or
not?
And
it's
just
important
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
doing
what
we
can
to
maximize
that.
I.
D
And
so
you
know
I
live
pretty
close
to
university
in
dartmouth,
and
so
I
I've
watched
as
the
as
denver
has
put
in
bike
lanes
on
dartmouth
east
of
university,
and
they
took
away
some
parking
to
do
that
and
that
was
really
controversial
and
and
was
a
big
fight
for
denver
and
for
the
residents
and
everybody
there,
and
so
I'm
like
thankful
for
the
progress
that
we
made
by
putting
in
the
painted
bike
lane
on
dartmouth.
I
do
feel
like
that
was
a
good
step
in
the
right
direction.
D
A
I
agree
and
that
that's
something
greg
that
I
think
again
going
back
to
you,
know
kind
of
like
the
dream
of
what
we
would
all
have
in
terms
of
the
perfect
bike
lane
in
doing
that
and
oftentimes
you
would
have
to
have
you
know:
you'd
have
to
acquire
additional
right-of-way
and
the
and
the
like
to
actually
have
that,
and
that's
of
course,
costs
and
that's
of
course
time
as
well
too,
and
making
sure
that
every
property
owner
will
be
on
board
with
that.
So
there.
A
E
A
That
happen
there,
so
it's
it's
difficult
for
sure.
I
think
I
think
the
other
thing
too,
that
I've
noticed
and
maria.
Maybe
you
can
tell
me
about
that,
or
is
that
when,
when
I
see
bike
lanes
and
designs
for
bike
lanes,
typically
going
through
intersections,
that
is
some
of
the
more
I
should
have
put
this.
Those
are
the
areas
where
I
see
a
lot
of
different
agencies
or
communities
having
different
approaches
yeah
as.
C
A
Through
those
different
intersections
of
those
applications,
typically,
if
you've
got
a
just
a
straight
roadway
and
and
you're
just
doing
that,
of
course,
you're
you're
having
either
whether
it's
parking
spaces
for
parking
and
then
the
bike
lanes
and
the
the
roadway
but
really
going
through
intersections,
and
I
think,
even
to
some
of
those
roundabouts
that
we
looked
at.
I
think
the
last
meeting,
or
so.
This
is
where
I
think,
a
lot
of
the
communication
and
and
partnership
partnering
with
the
committee
to
really
understand,
what's
more
feasible
and
and
better
suited
to
to
cyclists.
A
Right
exactly
yeah
so
yeah,
but
I
think
that
that's
a
great
point
that
tiffany
brought
up
there
and
you
know
I
think
the
city
will
continue
to
pace
that
down
with
every
project
that
comes
about
in
terms
of
bike
lane
safety
and
to
make
sure
that
they're
providing
us
the
most
reasonable
and
safest
channel
for
us.
So.
E
Actually,
it's
interesting
that
we're
having
this
conversation
because
it
came
up.
I
was
talking
to
one
of
my
friends
about
a
week
or
two
ago
about
the
safety
stop,
and
so
she
was
saying
that
one
of
the
things
that
concerns
her
about
rider
riding
on
streets
is
obviously
the
the
car
traffic
and
she
was
wondering
whether
or
not
cities
would
put
in
those.
What
are
those
things
called
where
you
like,
where
a
car,
if
it
drifts
a
little
bit
into
the
lane,
it
makes
that
the
the
sound?
A
E
Rumble
strips
yeah,
you
see
him
on
the
highway,
so
is
that
a
possibility,
as
a
you
know,
as
a
cyclist?
I
love
that
sound,
because
it
tells
me
that
a
car
is
bearing
out
of
well.
It
depends
on
where
we're
at,
but
if
you're
on
the
highway
or
in
a
backcountry
road,
they
have
those
alert
strips
or
those
rumble
strips
in
the
middle
in
the
middle
of
the
lane.
So
you
can.
You
know
that
the
car
is
veering
away
from
me.
C
F
Just
basically,
you
take
a
it's
a
piece
of
equipment
and
you
go
sideways.
You
know
along
like
the
edge
line
there
and
grind
in
little
little
grooves.
So
it's
a
cost.
Definitely
there
might
be
some
some
consideration
of
noise
back
to
the
adjacent
property
owners,
but
it's
certainly,
I
don't
think
is
prohibited.
E
A
A
A
B
Yeah
the
rumble
strips
I,
you
know
just
something
I
hadn't
thought
about
in
an
urban
environment,
but
I
you
know,
I
definitely
support
at
least
looking
into
that,
not
knowing
where
the
right
applications
would
be,
but
you
know
you
wouldn't
put
them
everywhere
I
feel
like,
but
there
are
definitely
some
spots
that
would
benefit
from
that
too.
So
I
think
that's
a
great
idea.
I
had
a
question
just
kind
of
based
on
on
tiffany's
kind
of
initial
prompt
too.
B
It
got
me
thinking
of
you
know
the
different
ways
that
we
use
the
built
environment
and
the
different
modes
of
transportation,
and-
and
you
know
thinking
about
lately
with
people
being
at
home
a
lot.
You
know
we
see
people
sometimes
walking
down
the
streets
or
you
know
we'll
go
out
in
the
street
to
give
some
people
some
space
when
we're
walking
sometimes.
B
B
F
C
B
Okay,
thank
you
and-
and
I
and
I
don't
mean
that
in
any
way
to
diminish
what
member
o'connell
said.
I
I
thought
that
was
a
very
thought-provoking
way
to
bring
up
the
topic
and
I'm
thinking
about
you
know
walking
whether
it's
a
roadway,
bikeway
or
maybe
it's
just
you
know,
taking
the
bike
path
under
santa
fe,
and
you
know
a
couple
years
ago
there
were
a
bunch
of
lights
out,
they've
been
updated
and
it's
much
better,
but
just
as
a
general
way
to
look
at
some
of
those
other.
B
A
Okay
hearing
none
we'll
move
on.
Thank
you
for
that.
Remember
khan,
off
for
that.
For
that
topic
and
for
that
discussion,
let's
move
on
to
our
next
item.
Platt
river
trail,
mary
carter,
greenway,
proposed
detour
discussion.
This
is
again
member
o'connell.
You
brought
this
to
our
attention
and
I
think
you
even
brought
it
up
at
our
last
meeting,
but
we
could
talk
about
a
little
bit
more
in
detail
here,
and
this
is
in
regards
to
the
proposed
dartmouth
and
platte
river
bridge.
B
B
A
A
F
F
A
C
A
B
A
F
A
C
A
B
B
Well,
you
know,
regarding
the
you
know,
the
bike
path
going
through
that
area.
You
know
I've
tiffany
mentioned
some
good
examples,
some
bad
examples.
My
office
is
right
down
by
spear
and
14th
street
and
they're
redoing
that
bridge
right
now
and
they
have
the
cherry
creek
trail
going
up
onto
spear
boulevard.
B
It's
pretty
pretty
painful
to
watch
people
go
through
there
and
it
looks
like
a
lot
of
people
are
scared
a
lot
of
the
time.
So
I
want
to
avoid
that
as
much
as
we
can.
I
understand
that
intersection
has
significantly
more
traffic
than
we're
looking
at
here,
but
you
know
different
types
of
traffic
too
yeah.
I'm
curious
kind
of
what
the
kind
of
the
group
thinks
about.
Let's
see
the
path
goes,
does
it
go
underneath
on
the
east
west
side,
it's
on
the
west
side
on
the
west
side,
yeah.
A
I
don't
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
can
see
my
screen
as
I'm
seeing
it
right
now,
but
chris
it
goes
underneath
on
that
west
side.
There's
a
the
bridge
that
that
crosses
here
to
the
lesson
and
it
goes
underneath
there
and
of
course
you
can
come
up
and
just
as
the
cyclist
is
here
in
the
corner,
it's
an
access
point
to
be
able
to
come
in
on
that
west
side.
A
B
Yeah,
you
know
it's
a
popular
trail,
a
lot
of
people
riding
bikes
on
in
that
area,
and
so
I
I
think
that's
going
to
be
important
to
make
it.
You
know
the
least
impactful
for
those
pedestrians,
the
cars
are
already
going
to
be
impacted
significantly
coming
through
there
already
I
feel
like
so.
If
we
can,
you
know,
get
a
win
for
the
pedestrians
and
the
bikes
that
would
feel
pretty
good
to.
F
A
C
A
A
A
C
E
C
A
B
E
E
I
guess
I
was
just
thinking
of
it
in
terms
of
the
connection
from
inglewood
from
dartmouth
that
actual
bike
trail
that
won't
be
affected,
in
the
sense
that,
if
they're
going
north
on
the
bike,
trail
they're
still
able
to
pick
up
the
detour
wherever
it
is
correct,
it
sounds
like
it
would
like
that
still
would
be
operational.
Do
you
understand
what
I'm
saying.
B
Yes,
where,
where
the
south,
where
the
trail
goes
underneath
the
bridge
there,
you
know
I've
seen
you
see
in
big
cities
when
they're
working
out
skyscrapers,
they
put
a
cover
or
other
things
like
that.
I
know.
That's
not
a
perfect
example,
but
you
know,
depending
on
the
operations
and
the
things
that
are
going
on
there
are,
are
they
planning
to
just
completely
take
out
that
space,
or
is
there
potentially
an
option
for
us
to
protect
that,
and
only
have
the
detour
go
over
dartmouth?
F
B
Yeah,
I
think
that
would
be
really
helpful.
You
know
thinking
about
a
permanent,
long-term
month-long
solution
versus
something
that
might
only
be
affecting
certain
times
of
day
or
days
of
the
week
is.
It
gives
a
little
different
perspective
on
on
how
I
would
provide
my
input
on
some
of
those
things,
so
that
that
would
be
very
helpful.
I
thank
you
for
offering
that.
A
You
know
we
that
can
be
accommodated,
but
certain
operations
as
you're,
suggesting
too
I
mean
whether
it's
you
know,
they're
going
to
be
erecting
girders
and
and
doing
that.
Obviously,
at
at
that
point,
then,
at
that
point
there
will
be
a
substantial
detour
where
the
you
can't
have
that
underpass
there
yeah.
A
So
it
would
have
to
be
one
of
those
where
you're
gonna
have
to
understand
and
work
with
the
contractor
in
terms
of
their
phasing,
their
scheduling
and
kind
of
work
with
that
coordinate
with
the
contractor
contractor
in
that
sense,
depending
on
their
their
scheduling
operations.
As
you
mentioned
sure,
yeah.
C
F
D
F
Sure,
just
a
couple
of
items
for
tonight,
we
just
recently
completed
a
repair
at
union
in
santa
fe,
if
you're
not
familiar
with
that
exact
intersection.
It's
where
the
7-eleven
is
on
the
west
side
of
santa
fe
and
union's
a
pretty
busy
road.
There's
a
waste
management
facility
back
there,
as
well
as
some
other
industrial
and
what
was
going
on
was
vehicles
that
were
coming
south
on
santa
fe
and
turning
were
running
up
that
asphalt
and
making
a
significant
ruts
and
and
just
making
it
very
uneven.
F
So
we
took
out
the
asphalt
down
to
about
12
inches
and
replaced
it
all
with
concrete.
We
did
have
a
pretty
significant.
It
was,
maybe
I
think,
was
in
2018
a
pretty
significant
crash
there
of
a
motorcycle
who
actually
you
know
curved
through
there
and
and
was
caught
off
balance.
So
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
much
safer
approach
with
all
that
heavy
traffic.
Turning,
it's
really
can
push
the
asphalt,
whereas
the
concrete
will
respond
much
much
better.
So
we
just
finished
that
last
week
and
reopened
that
to
traffic
and
then.
F
A
F
A
F
A
A
So
I
I
think,
where
that
discussion,
trailed
off
was
the
possibility
of
the
city
doing
some
traffic
counts
or
so
on.
I
think
in
that
area.
So-
and
I
I
know
I
guy
was
there
at
the
time-
and
I
know
he's
no
longer
with
us,
so
I
know
you've
got
plenty
on
your
plate
as
well
too.
I
just
I
just
wanted
to
bring
it
up
as
a
reminder
at
some
point
he
might
come
back.
F
A
Perfect
great,
thank
you
on
that
and,
let's
see
oh,
but
just
just
noted
the
the
crosswalk
art
that
I've
noticed
on
broadway
is
just
fantastic:
there's
been
a
few
locations
there
that
I
think
they
really
stand
out
and
really
add
to
the
add
to
the
corridor
there.
So
I
just
want
to
again
commend
the
city,
and
I
don't
know
if
that's
chris
groth,
that
has
got
a
hand
in
there.
I
didn't
know
he
was
so
artistic,
but
hats
off
to
you
chris.
If
you
had
any
part
in
it,.
A
Great
yeah,
I
think
that
adds
a
you
know.
I
mean
it's.
It
serves
as
functional
and
plus
adds
aesthetics
to
the
community.
So
I
really,
I
think,
that's
a
good
step
as
well
too
and
again,
you
know,
just
speaking
to
I
think
I've
seen
a
lot
more
outreach
from
the
city
recently
on
these
sorts
of
issues
or
suggestions,
and
I
I
really
like
to
see
that
as
well
too.
A
So
it's
it's
a
good
step
forward
and
then
the
last
thing
that
I
have
there
was
regarding,
I
think,
the
last
meeting
I
talked
about
not
getting
any
responses
from
member
plasters
and
I
think
there
was
some
discussion
about
maybe
having
the
city
discuss
or
or
the
clerk
or
someone
talk
about
what
the
next
steps
forward
would
be
for
that,
in
terms
of
what
do
we
do
from
here
I
mean
I've.
I've
tried
to
reach
out
to
ask
if
she's
still
interested.
If
not,
I
haven't
received
anything
back.
C
F
C
F
Yeah,
I
don't,
I
don't
know
that
they
knew
our
specific
situation
for
etac.
But
again
I
think
it's
at
the
commission's
desire.
If
you
want
to
lorraine,
did
we
ever
send
like
a
formal
like
letter
in
the
mail,
maybe
asking
for
miss
plasters
if
she
wanted
to
continue,
because
maybe
we
do
that
and
then
we
can,
depending
on
her
answer
or
lack
of
answer,
then
maybe
the
commission
takes
action
at
the
january
meeting.
A
But
I
don't
know
chris,
you
know
you've
been
a
member
and
a
chair
for
many
many
years
have
you
ever
had
this
come
across
while
you've
been
chair
yourself.
I
can't
remember
that
as
long
as
I've
been
a
part
of
etac
typically,
if
someone
has
wanted
to
just
leave
the
committee
they've
just
notified
us
and
then
it's
been
said
and
done,
but
to
where
we
have
and
haven't
had
any
responses.
B
A
C
So
I'm
looking
at
the
email
that
I
had
sent
to
city
clerk's
office
and
according
to
our
bylaws,
it
states
any
committee
member
missing
more
than
three
consecutive
meetings
without
prior
notice
and
a
calendar
year
may
be
removed
by
the
city
council.
Any
member
missing
a
total
of
four
meetings
in
a
calendar
year
with
or
without
prior
notice,
may
be
removed
by
the
city
council.
Prior
notice
is
considered
to
be
either
a
written
or
verbal
statement
to
supporting
staff
members.
A
Could
possibly
try
another
email
or
that,
but
you
know
I,
and
certainly
if
she
wants
to
remain
a
part
of
the
committee,
I'm
more
than
welcome
for
that
as
well
too,
but
I
haven't
received
any
anything
to
suggest
that,
so
I
think
greg
you
had
brought
up
that
the
city
was
doing
interviews
and
I
don't
know
if
that's
continuing
on
or
if
that
window
is
closed
as
well
too.
So
I'm
not
not
sure
that.
E
So
we
did
discuss-
and
I
was
actually
looking
through
my
notes
and
so
everything
that
lorraine
stated
is
correct.
We
actually
did
receive
an
email
in
mid-november
from
from
the
clerk
alerting
us
that
there's
potentially
a
new
alternate
for
e-tec
needed,
and
so
at
that
point
we
had
already
gone
through
the
meetings,
and
so
we
we
did
discuss
that
night.
E
Whether
or
not
we
wanted
to
open
up
new
interviews
and
it
was
decided
that
we
would
hold
off
until
the
next
period
which
the
applications,
I
believe,
start
sometime
around
april
and
we
go
through
the
end
of
june.
So
we're
going
to
keep
that
schedule,
because
e-tec
is
one
of
four
boards
that
are
now
missing.
Members.
A
Okay,
thanks
for
that
councilman
sierra
yeah,
I
mean
right
now.
I
I
would
say
that
the
core
members
of
the
group
are
all
present.
Most
of
the
times
is,
and
so
I
don't,
I
don't
see,
really
a
problem
with
meeting
quorum
for
our
meetings
right
now
and
doing
that.
But
of
course
just
to
have
that
if
we
have
an
opening
and
if
it
can
be
filled,
I
think
that's
the
direction
we'd
like
to
to
go
in.
C
A
C
A
C
A
D
The
only
thing
I
thought
I'd
share
is
that
I
I
was
down
at
floyd
and
broadway,
and
I
experienced
the
like
pork
chop
shaped
island
there.
That
makes
it
so
that
there's
crosswalks
all
the
way
around
the
intersection.
I
saw
some
folks
using
it
and
they
seemed
to
be
happy
to
be
able
to
like
stand
in
the
intersection,
get
a
shorter
walk
across
and
look
like
it
improved
the
flow
there.
I
was.
D
A
B
B
So
thank
you
guys
for
getting
that
moving
there,
and
also
I've
heard
some
comments
about
some
of
the
crosswalks
downtown
again,
the
creative
ones,
with
the
artwork
on
them
and
some
more
good
feedback
just
in
general,
but
those
two
things
aside.
I
I
sent
out
an
email
to
the
group
before
the
meeting
here
and-
and
you
know
I
was
hoping
to
maybe
just
get
a
little
more
information
back,
but
basically
there
are
some
things
going
on
with
the
city
center.
There's
some
strategic
planning
with
the
city.
B
Some
you
know
new
developments
coming
in
there
are
some
leases
coming
up
on
buildings
or
that
we're
looking
at
terminating
in
the
area.
So
you
know
the
planning
and
zoning
group
in
the
city
center
area
has
been
looking
at
potentially
some
re-zoning
or
adjustments
to
the
zoning
in
the
area
and
just
the
general
change
in
that
area.
That
is,
you
know,
seems
to
be
forthcoming.
B
You
know
some
of
it
will
come
sooner
some
later,
but
with
some
of
the
bigger
projects
going
on
there's
kind
of
this
master
plan
right
for
the
area,
and
so
I
I
had
noticed
in
one
of
the
memos
from
city
planner,
john
vobrill,
that
part
of
the
rezoning
might
have
some
effects
on
the
types
of
buildings
or
uses
of
those
areas,
and
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
up
sort
of
as
a
general
topic.
I
think
we
don't.
B
So
you
know
if,
if
there
were
going
to
be
some
sweeping
changes,
it
might
change
the
way
we
talk
about
some
things
on
this
committee
and
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
open
that
conversation
up
a
little
bit,
because
you
know
we've
addressed
other
things
in
that
area
like
the
trolley
we've
had
lots
of
really
good
conversations
about
potential
hours
or
routes.
On
that
you
know
the
buses
are
going
through
that
area.
A
lot
of
people
use
it
on
the
light
rail.
B
You
know
in
particular
to
go
to
the
walmart,
see
a
lot
of
people
going
back
and
forth.
It's
one
of
the
closer
large
retail
stores
to
a
light
rail
station.
So
there's
a
lot
of
things
like
that
in
that
area,
and
you
know
we
have
to
change
with
the
police
station
on
the
south
side
of
hampton
change
with
the
one
way.
B
If
there
are
any
things
that
had
come
across
your
desk
or
that
you
guys
see
coming
as
well
that
we
might
be
able
to
have
inputs
on,
I
wanted
to
just
make
sure
that
we
had
if
we
have
an
opportunity
here,
that
we
we
can
talk
about
it
so
sort
of
an
open-ended
question.
I
suppose,
but
maybe
you
know
maria,
if
you
have
any
insight.
I
know
you
worked
with
john,
quite
a
bit
too.
F
Yeah,
I
I'd
really
like
to
bring
him
in,
and
maybe
somebody
else
from
our
economic
development
team
just
to
talk
around
those
issues.
Obviously,
transportation
really
is
impacted
by
every
all
kinds
of
development,
and
so
I
think
it's
appropriate
to
have
that
discussion
and
really
allow
them
to
hear
firsthand
from
you
guys
any
concerns
or
just
talk
through
what
the
what
the
plans
are.
So
I
would
suggest
maybe
putting
that
on
a
future
agenda
and
bringing
those
specific
staff
people
back.
B
Okay,
yeah,
I
think
that
would
be
good.
You
know,
they've
done
several
phases
of
development
in
that
area
from
when
it
used
to
be
a
park,
and
it
was
a
mall,
and
now
we
have
the
current
situation,
and
there
have
been
some
phases
in
between
you
know:
there's
some
some
large
residential
buildings
which
I'm
not
necessarily
opposed
or
in
favor
of
neutral
on
the
topic,
but
looking
at
the
way
that
the
pedestrians
use
the
streetscape
and
some
of
those
things
in
that
area,
I
think,
would
be
important
for
us.
B
A
B
B
I
know
that
we've
discussed
previously
not
at
length,
but
you
know
the
way
that
that
is
a
transit,
oriented
development
and
talked
about
you
know
the
phasing
of
parking
requirements
within
distances
of
the
light
rail
station.
In
particular,
you
know
just
as
an
example
of
of
some
of
the
various
things
we've
talked
about
in
and
the
multimodal
options
in
that
area
as
well.
So
you
know
I'd
love
to
hear
if
any
of
the
rest
of
the
committee
has
any
other
questions
or
input
on
on
this
sort
of
stuff.
E
Hey
chris,
do
you
mind
if
I
jump
in
real
quick
and
it's
actually
interesting?
So
I
think
we
do
need
to
get
chief
redevelopment
officer
dan
parumba,
as
well
as
potentially
brad
power
director
power
to
come
and
speak,
because
I
did
have
this
discussion
with
them.
Initially,
those
are
still
in
the
early
stages,
so
nothing
has
really
been
proposed
yet,
but
that's
kind
of
the
blueprint
of
what
they
would
like
to
see
as
they
move
forward
with
the
city
center
redevelopment.
E
A
E
E
I
believe
we're
having
it
this
morning,
not
out
to
go
back
and
look
at
the
schedule,
but
the
sooner
the
better,
because
I
do
feel
that
this
coming
year,
we're
going
to
be
moving
pretty
fast
in
terms
of
what
the
redevelopment
is
going
to
look
like.
So
definitely
within
the
first
three
months
of
the
year.
I
think
that
definitely
should
have
dan
parumba
as
part
of
one
of
these
meetings
or
somebody
from
staff.
I
guess
I
should
say.
A
And
I
guess
I'll
defer
to
either
director
d'andrea
or
yourself
as
to
who
that
would
be.
I
think
you
know
chris
has
spoken
to.
I
think
what
his
concerns
are
and
on
behalf
of
the
committee
here.
So
if
we
can
get
the
the
appropriate
person
from
the
city
to
to
join
us
at
our
meeting,
that
would
be
great,
and
if
it's
not
this
january,
maybe
february
just
run
that
out.
There.
F
E
B
Right
I
appreciate
that
and-
and
I
think
you
know-
we've
had
some
great
opportunities
here
with
all
these.
You
know
bigger
plans
and,
and
some
companies
eager
to
come
in
and
do
some
redevelopment
and
and
frankly,
citizens
ready
for
some
redevelopment
in
some
of
those
areas
too.
So
you
know,
if
we
can,
we
want
to
make
sure
we
can
play
a
part
in
that
process.
So
thank
you
guys
for
offering
that
up.