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Okay
and
I've
not
heard
from
mr
cuesta,
so
you
can
start
your
meeting
at
okay,
6,
30
or
whatever
time
you
were
showing.
B
Close
enough
to
yeah
close
enough
to
6
30.,
let's
do
real
calm.
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B
All
right
and
looks
like:
are
we
gonna?
Well,
let's
proceed
with
the
approval
of
the
oh
josh.
Okay,
we
do
have
a
public
person,
but
let's
start
with
the
the
minutes
of
the
last
meeting,
I
didn't
have
any
changes.
Did
anyone
have
any
comment
or.
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I
see
josh
goldstein
is
here.
H
Yeah,
hello
I'll
turn
on
the
video.
Is
this
my
time
to
to
do
my
presentation.
B
Oh
well,
you're
you're,
preaching
to
the
choir
here.
B
C
H
The
timer
all
right
it
might
be
seven
minutes
or
something
but
I'll
start
sharing.
My
screen
thanks.
I
And
real,
quick
before
we
begin
good
evening,
everyone,
this
is
dave.
Questa
I've
been
having
trouble
with
the
zoom
link,
but
I
am
here
by
phone
and
I'll
keep
trying
to
access
through
zoom
and
and
pardon
that
interruption.
H
Okay,
now
it's
back
that
was
weird
okay.
I
just
want
to
give
you
you
all
a
little
bit
of
information
about
who
I
am
and
why
I'm
here
today,
if
you
don't
mind,
can
you
all
see
my
screen?
H
Yes,
okay,
thank
you.
So
my
name
is
josh
goldstein.
I
grew
up
in
littleton,
but
I
went
to
school
in
eaglewood
and
in
1998
I
went
by
cinderella,
city
mall
with
my
parents
and
it
changed
my
life
and
it
left
an
indelible
mark.
On
my
soul.
I
launched
a
career
in
architecture
and
an
interest
in
retail
design.
For
me,
I
went
to
flood
middle
school
and
graduated
from
inglewood
high
in
2008
and
flood
actually
saved
my
life
and
changed
my
world
because
I
was
having
a
really
bad
time
in
my
previous
district.
H
So
I
owe
inglewood
a
lot
of
gratitude
for
where
I
am
today
in
high
school
I
had
an
internship
working
on
the
streets
at
south
glen,
so
the
demolition
of
the
former
south
glen
mall.
So
this
was
really
good
experience.
H
For
me,
I
got
a
master
of
architecture,
degree
and
I
went
to
work
at
a
company
called
505
design
and
they,
where
I
worked
on
mixed
use
and
retail
developments
around
the
world
by
the
way
the
proposal
I'm
going
to
show
tonight,
I
reviewed
with
505
design
and
they
agreed
with
it,
and
they
said
that
in
fact
they
are
doing
projects
right
now,
but
taking
a
department
store
and
adaptively
reusing
them,
and
it's
cheaper
for
the
developer
to
do
this,
so
they
have
they.
H
It
was
very
encouraging
and
they
said
this
is
completely
doable.
I
work
now
at
autodesk
as
a
software
developer,
so
I'm
working
on
architectural
software,
so
the
stuff
you're
going
to
see
tonight
is
actually
built
using
my
software
that
I
built
for
my
day
job
I'm
working
on
the
cinderella
city
project
in
my
free
time,
which
is
rebuilding
the
old
cinderella,
city
mall
in
two
different,
distinct
eras
for
an
interactive
historical,
exhibit
a
video
game,
basically
for
the
city
of
inglewood,
and
that
brings
us
to
the
city
center
redevelopment.
Where
I
feel
like.
H
I
can
pay
my
respects
to
the
inglewood
inglewood
as
a
whole
and
the
cinderella
city
site.
Specifically,
I
can
harness
my
experience
in
retail
design
and
software
to
propose
an
alternative
to
demolition
for
the
last
remaining
piece
of
cinderella
city.
Let
me
just
switch
to
the
actual
presentation
now
that
I've,
given
you
a
little
bit
of
about
who
I
am
okay,
I'm
back
in
full
screen
mode.
Can
you
see
this
this
building
now.
C
G
H
Thanks
so
this
is
I'm
calling
it
block
b
at
broadway,
southwest
and
adaptive
reuse
of
the
inglewood
civic
center.
I
put
together
some
context
in
history.
This
was
really
for
my
firm
because
they
didn't
really
know
about
the
project,
but
I
think
we
all
know
it
was
built
in
85
as
part
of
cinderella
city,
so
it
wasn't
originally
part
of
the
mall,
but
it
was
attached
to
it
and
it
was,
you
know,
saved
from
demolition,
1999
and
became.
What
we
know
now
is
the
inglewood
civic
center.
I
just
want
to
note.
H
I
see
some
opportunities
here
that
we
can
create
the
heart
of
city
center.
That's
what
I'm
calling
it.
I
think
we
can
create
a
uniquely
inglewood
destination
inside
of
an
iconic
inglewood
building
and
bring
new
life
to
the
city
center.
I
think
that
there's
an
opportunity
to
work
with
the
terrain.
We
have
that
parking
deck
at
the
upper
level
at
the
hampden
level,
and
then
we
have
to
slope
down
into
the
lower
levels
of
the
building.
I
think
we
can
use
that
to
our
advantage.
H
I
also
see
opportunities
to
forge
new
connections
with
areas
around
city
center,
so
maybe
to
the
north.
We've
got
that
mary
carter
greenway
that
doesn't
have
a
really
nice
connection
to
the
project.
Maybe
we
could
do
something
there
and
also
to
the
southern
neighborhoods
across
hampden,
it's
awful
to
cross
as
a
pedestrian
and
a
bicyclist.
So
maybe
we
can
do
something
there
too.
H
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
couple
of
notes,
I'm
assuming
from
what
I've
heard
from
the
city
of
inglewood
that
the
the
existing
uses
might
move
out
of
the
building,
and
I
don't
know
if
that's
I
don't
know,
if
that's
really
going
to
happen,
but
I'm
sort
of
assuming
okay
if
they
want
to
move.
Maybe
maybe
that's
what
my
presentation
will
show
is
maybe
some
new
opportunities
to
use
that
building
for
something
else
without
tearing
it
down.
H
I'm
focusing
on
the
south
side
of
the
site
where
the
parking
deck
and
the
chuck
e
cheese
is
right
now,
and
I
just
want
to
note
that
this
is
a.
This
is
a
big
vision.
So
you
know
there
are
some
details
in
there
that
you
might
not
like
it
doesn't
have
to
be
this
design.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
this
style.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
exactly
this,
but
I
think
there
are
so
many
opportunities
to
adaptively
reuse.
H
This
building,
and
I
thought
I
would
try
so
the
first
concept
is
a
food
hall
and
co-working,
and
I'm
just
going
to
skip
a
little
bit
and
zoom
out
a
bit
and
say:
okay,
so
the
heart
of
city
center
inside
of
the
civic
center
building.
H
I
think
you
could
put
some
co-working
spaces
in
the
upper
levels
and
put
a
food
hall
and
a
market
in
the
lower
levels
and
then
to
as
I
mentioned,
that
that
terrace
promise
or
the
the
site
being
at
the
upper
level
here,
I
think
you
can
work
with
that
and
make
a
terrace
promenade
down
into
the
lower
level
and
I'm
also
proposing
some
multi-family
or
maybe
a
hotel
or
something
on
the
southwest
corner
of
the
site
to
create
some
new
homes
and
do
some
structured
parking
on
the
corner
of
the
site.
H
You
know
for
the
food
hall
like
we
could.
We
could
show
off
some
inglewood,
artisans
and
makers,
make
it
transparent
and
have
some
culinary
variety.
I
don't
think
it
would
has
a
food
hall,
so
there's
an
opportunity
here,
I'm
also
showing
a
food,
a
farmer's
market
that
could
connect
to
the
food
hall
and
and
exist
in
that
little
space
between
the
24-hour
fitness
and
the
existing
building.
H
So
we
could
activate
the
space
connect
farm
to
community
and
even
transition
seamlessly
to
the
food
hall
and
then
in
terms
of
the
co-working
spaces,
there's
a
lot
of
space.
So
you
can
make
some
cool,
spacious
and
comfortable
places
for
people
to
work.
You
could
expose
some
industrial
nuances
and
you
can
have
a
convenient
connection
to
the
food
hall.
I
did
some
plans,
I
don't
feel
like.
H
I
have
this
time
to
talk
about
them,
but
I
am
thinking
about
this
in
terms
of
numbers
and
there
are
some
things
we
can
use
the
space
for
and
I'm
trying
to
be
very
realistic
about
this.
So
maybe
the
museum
of
outdoor
art
stays,
maybe
hampton
hall
stays,
but
you
can
do
offices
in
the
rest
of
the
upper
levels
and
the
terrace
promenade
make
this
pedestrian
and
bike
friendly.
You
can
have
multiple
paths
to
multiple
destinations,
there's
even
opportunities.
H
E
I'm
sorry
real
fast,
I'm
sorry,
josh
nancy
is
there
any
way
that
we
can
afford
him
a
little
bit
more
time
here.
Two
minutes
he's
he's
obviously
put
in
a
lot
of
effort
into
this,
and
the
original
plan
was
to
have
him
part
of
the
agenda,
and
it
was
that.
H
E
C
E
H
H
Yes,
that's
great,
thank
you,
okay,
so
the
the
terrace
promenade,
if
you,
if
you
do,
connect
to
the
upper
level
of
the
parking
deck
as
it
is
now
to
the
lower
level
of
the
building,
which
is
where
the
you
know,
the
light
rail
elevation,
or
rather
the
like
the
library
elevation.
You
could
do
some
really
interesting
things
you
could
make
it
well
lit
and
inviting
you
could
do
some.
H
You
know
great
ample
and
varied
seating,
so
people
can
come
here
with
their
families
and
hang
out
for
a
little
while
you
can
make
them
sculptural
make
some
sculptural
and
comfortable
elements,
and
you
know
some
tree-lined
walks
and
make
this
really
a
place
where
people
want
to
be,
and
then
I
do
talk
about
a
little
bit
about
the
multi-family
and
again,
I'm
just
trying
to
show
that
I'm
thinking
about
this
in
terms
of
economics,
I
think
that
we
would
you
know
you
need
to
do
something
to
certainly
to
recoup
the
parking.
H
So
I
think
you
could
do
five
levels
of
shared
parking
here
and
have
a
thin
layer
of
residential
that
could
be
walk
up,
town
homes
or
low-rise
units,
and
I
I
did
some
calculations
and
I
think
you
could
fit
something
like
115
units
in
here
and
something
like
500
spaces
of
parking
right
against
the
hampden
side.
And
then
you
know
get
people
to
park
here
and
come
down
into
the
site
from
this
corner
and
then
the
second
concept,
which
is
a
little
more
destructive
to
the
building.
H
But
you
know
I've
heard
that
the
city
of
englewood
is
interested
in
doing
a
hotel.
So
I
thought
what
would
it
look
like
if
we
made
this
building
into
a
hotel
and
that
would
necessitate
some
more
drastic
changes?
And
so
what
this
looks
like
is
I'm
calling
it
the
suites
and
the
food
hall
in
the
market
in
the
building
to
create
the
heart
of
city
center,
and
I
went
all
out
on
this
one.
You
could
do
a
rooftop
restaurant.
Imagine
the
views
from
the
rooftop
of
this
the
corner
this
building
up
to
the
mountains.
H
You
could
do
gardens
up
there
for
the
restaurants,
but
you
know
when
you
cut
the
building
in
order
to
have
a
hotel
in
there.
You
could
even
do
a
historic
passage
in
the
middle
so
celebrating.
What's
history
you're,
actually
standing
inside
of
the
old
department
store,
so
to
speak,
so
the
suites.
I
again,
I
went
crazy,
rooftop,
dining,
rooftop,
gardens
again
industrial
nuances.
You
could
showcasing
what
artists
in
the
lobby
of
the
suites
and
then,
of
course,
there's
this
historic
passage
idea.
Maybe
we
can
forge
a
path
through
history.
H
Maybe
we
can
play
up
the
fact
that
you
used
this
used
to
be
a
department
store.
This
was
aligned
with
the
way
cinderella
city
was
oriented
and
you
would
be
staring
right
into
shamrock,
mall
or
rose
mall.
So
it's
tomorrow's
place
in
yesterday's
space,
and
then
I
did
some
more
studies
here
and
this
plan
sort
of
sort
of
shows
wise.
So
this
hotel
would
need
you
know
the
units
would
have.
This
rooms
would
need
to
have
views
on
all
sides.
H
So
I
that
necessitated
cutting
the
building,
but
in
my
calculations
you
could
fit
something
like
125
rooms
in
the
upper
levels
of
the
building,
which
would
be
more
than
enough
to
make
to
make
everything
pencil
out.
I
think
some
other
tiny
things
I
wanted
to
mention
small
things.
You
know
when
you
do
this
hill.
H
With
this,
this
change
of
elevation,
you
could
play
up
the
hill
and
have
little
hills
for
sledding
competitions
and
other
things
that
that
sort
of
you
know
bring
the
community
around
and
make
a
little
mini
park,
because
this
site
used
to
be
a
park
and
the
very
last
thing
I
have
to
give
helene
credit
for
this
one.
Potentially
we
could
zoom
out
even
further
and
say
how
could
city
center
connect
to
the
rest
of
ingwood?
H
Maybe
you
do
a
gondola,
maybe
you,
you
know,
make
a
gondola
station
at
city
center
that
connects
to
the
light
rail
on
the
bus
and
the
whole
thing
that
I
just
showed
goes
east
launch
lands
you
at
broadway
and
then
goes
east
further.
It
lands
you
with
swedish,
so
you're
really
connecting
you
know
the
rest
of
england
with
city
center
and
kind
of
bridging
that
gap,
which
I
think
the
city
is
interested
in
looking
at,
and
so
that
is
my
presentation.
Thank
you
very
much.
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
goldstein.
Would
you
please
email
me
the
presentation,
so
I
can
put
it
online
with
the
this
meetings,
this
evening's
agenda
for
the
public,
and
also
I
will
email
it
to
the
commissioners.
Happy
too.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Do
you
have
my
email.
D
A
C
Runs
very
much
like
council,
where
it's
a
time
for
public
comment.
The
chair
could
certainly
add
you
to
a
future
agenda.
J
Just
wanted
to
ask
josh.
Thank
you
by
the
way,
I
think
that
was
excellent
presentation.
My
question
is
that
you
had
said
something
at
the
beginning
of
the
presentation.
I
just
want
clarity
on
adaptive.
Reuse
like
what
you've
outlined
is.
Is
it
the
case
that
it's
often
more
budget
conscious
than
a
demolish
and
complete
new
development?
Is
that
what
you
said.
H
Well
it
it
certainly
depends
but,
like
I
said,
I
talked
to
my
firm
and
they
are
doing
this
right
now
in
several
projects
across
the
the
country,
and
they
are
doing
something
even
more
than
I
am.
You
know,
I'm
showing
some
cutting
and
some
windows
and
stuff
like
that
in
that
first
scheme,
but
they're
they're
doing
a
complete
refresh
of
the
facade
and
they
said
that
it
was
much
cheaper.
Well,
it
was
cheaper.
H
You
know
to
to
not
tear
down
the
building
because
you're
saving
the
structure,
you're,
saving
the
foundation,
you're,
saving
the
floor
plates
you're
saving,
most
of
the
in
my
case,
you're
saving
most
of
the
external
shell.
So
yes,
they
said
that
in
their
cases,
which
is
even
more
drastic
than
mine,
they
said
it
made
more
sense
economically
to
save
the
building
than
just
start
over
and
that's
what
they're
doing.
And
so
I
have
they've
shown
me
all
sorts
of
examples,
and
it
made
me
very
encouraged
that
that
could
be
done
here.
J
And
then
I
have
a
follow-up
question
I
saw
in
your
presentation.
You
had
some
pictures
of
downtown
denver's
dairy
block
right.
Is
that
right?
Did
I
see
that
correctly.
J
Yeah
and
the
dairy
block,
which
is
a
hugely
successful
project,
do
you
know,
and
that
and
that
dairy
block
project
is
similar
to
what
you're
suggesting
it's
an
adaptation
or
reuse
of
an
existing
structure?
Do
you
know
offhand
if
the
dairy
block
was
more
economical
than
like
a
scrap
and
redevelop
so.
H
The
dairy
block,
actually
they
only
saved
a
little
brick
building,
it's
a
one-story
thing
and
they
put
a
little
market
in
there,
but
the
the
the
bulk
of
the
dairy
block,
the
hotel
and
all
that
stuff.
That's
actually
new
construction
yeah.
So
in
that
regard
specifically
to
adaptive
reuse,
it's
probably
not.
H
I
Hi
there,
mr
goldstein,
this
is
dave
cuesta
and
I'm
the
council
member
that
sits
on
this
board
as
well.
Have
you
presented
this
these
ideas
that
you've
had
here
to
any
other
groups
associated
with
the
city
outside
of
the
group
tonight.
I
Okay,
very
good.
You
know
city
council,
along
with
staff
and
I'll
get
in
touch
with
the
the
city
manager
as
well
they're
trying
to
get
as
much
public
input
as
possible.
I
think
you've
got
some
tremendous
ideas
here.
I
love
your
affinity
for
cinderella
city,
I'm
an
inglewood
kid
myself
and
I
have
a
lot
of
warm
memories
from
from
the
mall,
and
I
like
that,
you're
keeping.
I
I
I
think,
the
romanticism
that
a
lot
of
people
still
have
for
the
area
and
you
know
trying
to
bring
people
back
in
and
keep
it
community
centered.
So
I
know
that
miss
fenton
is
going
to
get
this
presentation
from
you
I'll
pass
it
along
to
the
city
manager,
along
with
your
contact
information.
But
is
these
these
groups
keep
coming
along
where
we're
taking
public
input?
I
think
your
voice
would
be
valuable.
H
I
appreciate
that,
thank
you
so
much
and
by
the
way
I
have
I
attended
an
open
house
for
this
project
and
that's
when
I
learned
that
they
were
planning
on
potentially
tearing
down
the
building
and
that's
what
got
me
to
do
this,
so
I
have
been
in
contact
with
the
developers
skb
and
triba,
but
I
haven't
shown
them
in
this
presentation
because
I
wasn't
sure
if
I
should,
but
I
I
could
so
anyway,
that's
where
it
stands.
So,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
encouragement.
I
B
Well,
and
one
other
thing
to
know,
is
that
later
on,
our
agenda
tonight
we're
discussing
a
draft
of
a
letter
to
city
council
asking
them
to
preserve
the
building
with
through
adaptive,
reuse
and
not
tear
it
down.
F
F
I,
like
your
ideas
and
I've
in
the
past,
worked
on
a
lot
of
adaptive,
reuse
projects
and
it's,
I
know
how
successful
they
can
be
and
how
just
how
people
are
drawn
to
them
because
of
that
history
of
the
place
and
because
of
the
new
and
innovative
ways
that
a
building
can
be
used.
So
I
it's
amazing
to
see
what
you've
done
here.
H
I
appreciate
that,
and
I
also
want
you
all
to
know
like
I
don't
want
you
know,
somebody
was
like:
don't
show
it
to
the
development
firm
they'll
steal.
Your
idea
like
I
don't
care,
I'm
not
in
it
for
the
notoriety,
I'm
not
in
it
for
the
money
I
I
did
put
a
lot
of
time
into
it
took
time
off.
Work
spent
all-nighters,
but
it's
a
labor
of
love,
and
so
yes,
I
thank
you
so
much
and
I'm
glad
that
it
was
you
know
you
all
received
it
was
you
were
receptive
to
it.
B
J
You
did
okay,
there
we
go
so
here's
where
we're
at.
We
are
about
anywhere
between
33
and
50
done,
with
the
filling
backfilling
in
the
history
of
those
districts,
which
is
probably
the
more
laborious
part
of
the
project,
and
so
I
think
we
will.
Actually.
I
know
that
we
will
have
100
of
that
history,
that
we've
collected
from
all
the
maps
that
we've
assembled
filled
in
to
all
the
neighborhoods
that
we've
designated
by
the
end
of
the
month
and
also
have
sent
it
out
to
the
list
of
stakeholders
for
feedback.
J
We
probably
most
likely,
will
not
have
received
stakeholder
feedback
back
before
our
next
meeting,
but
we
will
be
able
to
share
with
you
in
the
next
meeting
our
comprehensive
historical
annotations
of
the
maps
that
we
merged
together
for
the
one
that
we
all
voted
on
last
month.
Is
that
clear?
Is
that
clear.
G
Who
else
crosses
your
mind?
That
would
be
very
good
to
that.
Might
just
have
some
history,
I
mean
because
it's
kind
of
true
matt
you
could
probably
attest
to
this.
A
lot
of
our
inglewood
historians
have
moved
on
to
the
you
know,
other
regions
here
and
so
we've
lost
that
oral
history
of
so
many
people.
B
Have
I
have
one
I
recently
learned
and
actually
looked
at
the
census
records
lists,
a
house
that
exists
and
who
lived
in
it.
G
G
It's
a
really
good
word.
Do
you
picture
the
senses
helping
help
us
with
neighborhoods,
though.
B
B
The
street
yeah
and
the
street
address.
B
G
B
Idea
and
what
their
occupation
was,
and
things
like
that,
so
it.
F
G
What
would
be
interesting,
though,
and
tell
me
what
you
think
helene
is
the
idea
of
having
it
has
a
link
that
way,
because
I
was
thinking
one
thing
I
brought
up
to
her
is:
if
I
lived
in
this
neighborhood
I'd
push
it
and
it
would
say
this
is
what
this
blah
blah
blah
right,
and
that
would
give
you
all
the
historic
information
that
we've
put
in
there.
But
could
there
be
a
link
for
the
census
and
they
could
go
back
and
look
at?
Maybe
they
could
find
their
house
or
I
don't
know.
J
Yeah,
I
think,
that's,
I
think,
that's
a
good
idea
we'll
have
to
look
at
how
that
census
data
is
accessed
online
and
what
we
can
link
to
and
like
how
we
can,
if
we
can
like
link
out
to
certain
aspects
of
the
census
data,
but
that
is
the
the
greater
vision
of
the
project.
J
Is
that
once
that
history's
been
backfilled
in
and
all
the
maps
and
resources
cj,
and
I
even
found
additional
historic
maps
of
the
area
on
the
library
of
congress
website,
so
we've
we've
got
all
these
maps
and
and
the
census
data.
I
think
I'd
put
in
that
collection
of
historical
data.
J
If
we
can
link
out
to
it
in
that
cool
digital
interface
that
we
want
to
really
display
all
the
work
we've
done
on
the
project
in,
I
think
that's
the
vision.
It
just
depends.
I
can't
say
for
sure,
until
I
really
see
what
the
digital
interface
we
choose
to
go
with,
looks
like
and
what
how
the
census
data
is
organized.
On
its
end,.
D
Not
a
stakeholder,
but
just
to
know
what
the
census
and
yeah
I
agree
with
what
lauren
said,
but
if
you're
looking
for
digitized
census,
the
the
free
version
is
family
search
has
digitized
versions
of
census,
records
ancestry
has
them
as
well.
D
If
you
have
a
library
card,
you
can
get
to
it,
but
otherwise
it's
behind
a
paywall,
but
so
it's
something,
I
think
you
know
perhaps
point
people
towards,
but
it
would
be
really
hard
to
have
something
kind
of
interactive
on
a
website
that
we
have,
but
certainly
can
point
them
towards
additional
resources.
I
think.
G
What
would
there
be
someone
that
may
be
more
savvy
about
this
or
or
because
I
I
did
talk
to
his
historic
preservation,
inc
about
the
work
that
they
had
done
for
denver
and
that
they're
the
ones
that
had
scared
me
that
it
took
them
10
to
20
years
and
had
a
lot
of
public
meetings
and
blah
blah.
But
would
there
be
someone
that
you
would
picture
at
historic
colorado
that
might
be
willing
to
look
at
our
map
and
say
well.
D
That's
probably
outside
of
the
realm
of
anybody's
responsibilities
over
there,
but
I
would
say
you
know,
perhaps
you
know
I
think
you've
already
been
there,
but
as
far
as
this
you
know
kind
of
research
stuff.
There's
the
stephen
h
hart
research
center
there-
and
you
know-
they're-
really
good-
to
discuss
things
with
this.
As
far
as
you
know,
perhaps
scrounging
up
additional
historical
sources
for
for
you
to
use,
but
as
far
as
somebody
kind
of
looking
over
the
maps
and
kind
of
giving
input
pro,
probably
not
okay,.
G
G
You
know
how
did
inglewood
get
that
piece
or
did
we
lose
some
other
piece
and
that's
why
it
looks
so
weird.
Something
like
that
I
was
thinking
would
be
nice
to
know,
and
I
really
don't
know
how
to
find
that.
D
Yeah
again,
that's
something
perhaps
you
know,
even
just
like
I
said,
reaching
out
to
the
the
research
center
they've
got
a
really
great
team
who's
really
good
at
they
do
a
lot
of
digging
for
free
if
it
gets
intensive
that
you
have
to.
You
know
if
it's
like
a
really
intensive
request,
there's
sometimes
a
fee
but
they're.
A
G
Anyone
specific
or
they
kind
of
just
tag
team
it
so
you
just
email
them
directly.
D
G
Perfect,
thank
you
jason.
Thank
you.
Anybody
else!
Anybody,
oh
I
know
what
else
I
I
didn't
state
was
the
rocky
mountain
railroad
his
heritage.
They
gave
us
some
information
on
some
of
the
railroads
where
that
have
been
set
up
or
still
left
over
their
skeletons
in
different
areas.
That
might
have
been
a
reason
why
a
certain
area
got
built
which
was
really
kind
of
cool
too.
B
They
might
know
something
about
the
depot
also,
if
and
when
I
first
moved
to
englewood.
It
was
down
by
the
tracks
it
got
moved
later
to
where
it
is
now.
J
Madeline
too
you're
on
here
right.
I
think
your
opponent
is
there's
someone
in
your
offices,
who's,
formalizing,
the
neighborhoods
map.
K
Yes,
so
I
did
send
the
map
that
we
drew
on
with
all
the
school
districts
and
all
of
the
council
districts.
I
sent
that
over
to
gis
just
to
see
if
they
could
get
that
online
in
an
online
version
and
in
just
a
prettier
version
for
us
to
post
on
our
web
page.
So
hopefully
that
is
coming
soon.
K
Going
to
yes,
it's
just
going
to
be
a
cleaned
up
version,
it's
just
going
to
be
the
englewood
map
and
just
the
names
of
all
of
the
neighborhoods
that
you
and
helene
put
together.
So
it
will
just
be
the
neighborhood
starter
map,
so
people
can
come
and
take
a
look
at
maybe
what
neighborhoods
they
live
in.
J
And
then
the
next
steps
for
the
project
once
we
have
finished
filling
in
the
history
that
we've
gathered
and
the
methods
behind
our
decision
making
for
the
lines
we
drew
and
the
names
we
chose
once
all
that's
finished,
being
documented
and
the
stakeholder
feedback
has
been
incorporated,
then
the
next
steps
will
be
choosing
a
digital
interface,
some
kind
of
interactive
map
software-
that's
already
out
there.
J
If
anybody
on
the
commission
wants
to
look
into
that
too,
I'm
doing
research
on
it,
but
I
know
there's
some
tech
savvy
people
here
on
the
commission,
so
definitely
forward
any
ideas
or
recommendations.
You
have
for
software,
like
that,
once
we've
selected
the
software
and
all
that
data
gets
put
into
that
digital
interface,
we
can
display
it
somewhere
and
have
it
live
on.
J
Hopefully,
a
part
of
the
city's
website
ideally
and
be
accessible
and
maybe
make
it,
and
you
know
something
we
update
quarterly
as
things
develop,
and
so
we
have
a
really
great
way
of
like
keeping
our
history
alive
and
capturing
all
that
work.
That
cj
has
started
and
all.
J
That
has
gone
into
it
and
all
those
oral
traditions
that
madeleine
has
gathered
from
the
community.
So
I
just
wanted
to
remind
everybody
kind
of
where
the
future
of
this
project
is
hopefully
going.
Thank
goodness
for
you,
no
thank
goodness
for
you.
I've
just
been
a
little
bit
of
an
organizer,
but
I
mean
I'm
new
to
I'm
new
to
the
neighborhood.
I
certainly
had
nothing
to
do
with
the
history.
Like
I'm
learning
a
ton,
you
guys,
I
know
all
about
the
depot
and
for
a
newcomer
I
know
a
lot
of
inglewood
history
today
that.
B
If
there
are
other
resources
in
that
inglewood
history
book
that
the
the
library
actually
digitized,
where
it
can,
you
can
download
it,
I
I've
got
a
copy
and
I'm
working
my
way
through
it.
But
it
has
the
history
of
like
how
our
water
system
developed
things
like
that.
So
there
may
be.
I
mean
that
may
be
able
to
tell
you
like,
where
the
the
sheridan,
the
part
came
into
the
city
and
and
how.
G
Curious
matt
or
you
know,
or
anybody
really
there's
is
there
any
number
you
know
residents
citizens
that
you
could
think
of
that
would
be
helpful
to
like,
like
someone
really
did
push
item
a
because
of
her
husband's
experience
with
the
county
and
all
that,
but
anybody
else
cross
your
mind.
I
was
thinking
gilbert,
but
I
don't
know
his
first
name.
E
Only
other
person
I
can
the
only
other
person
I
can
think
of
is
he's
down
off
of.
E
Pennsylvania
and
near
bates
logan
park
he
lives
over
there.
I
I
think
you've
met
him
cj
if
you,
if
you
went
to
our
history,
walk
that
we
did
recently
the
bhp.
A
G
E
Yeah
he's
off
of
pennsylvania
and
pennsylvania
and
dartmouth.
G
E
And
melinda
you
mentioned
that
it
wasn't.
I'm
sorry,
were
you
talking
about
the
big
big
book
of
history
in
inglewood
yeah,
so
cj
did
a
lot
of
work
with
the
library
to
get
that
digitized.
Oh,
yes,
you
did
you
got
it
done.
So.
Thank
you,
yeah
good
job.
I
have
a
copy
of
that.
I
have
a
copy
of
that.
If
anybody
wants
wants
it,
I
don't
know.
J
That
yeah
I
sit
on
the
library
board
and
the
updates
I've
heard
is
that
it
has
been
digitized,
but
it
hasn't
yet
been
made
public
because
it's
being
archived
and
tagged
in
a
in
a
system
that
archives
and
tags
historic
documentation.
So
the
person
I
forget
who
it
is
who's,
doing
that
she's
working
on
that
now.
But
from
what
I
understand
it
has
been
digitized.
It
just
isn't
like
searchable
and
I
think.
B
B
Well,
and
and
why
I
mentioned
scott
gilbert
because
he's
also
on
the
library
board
and
and
he
posted
on
next
store
about
the
thing,
and
so
many
people
went
to
downloaded
that
it
crashed
their
computer
for
a
while.
So
there's
a
lot
of
interest
in
our
history
out
there.
G
Well,
especially,
if
you
don't
have
to
pay
for
a
book,
that's
no
longer
being
made
hey
the
digitalizing
lady
at
the
library
who's
that.
G
J
You
know
it
makes
me
wonder
too,
if
that
digital
interface,
that
I'm
searching
for
should
be
a
map,
specific
digital
interface,
which
I
originally
thought
or
I
know,
there's
really
cool,
interactive
timeline,
digital
interfaces.
So
there's
a
couple
directions
we
could
go.
But
listening
to
the
group
and
hearing
that
you
know
this
could
be
extend
more
into
the
history
of
inglewood
beyond
just
neighborhoods.
That's
something
to
consider.
J
So
if
the
commission
wants
to
think
about
that
and
give
me
some
direction
on
that
before
I
bring
offerings
of
the
kind
of
digital
interface,
should
it
be
a
map,
specific
digital
interface
or
a
timeline
specific
interface,
or
is
there
another
option?
So
I
would
love
feedback
on
that.
B
C
Received
one
it's
not,
it
was
an
actual
request
for
proposals.
Just
for
clarification.
It
was
a
request
for
estimates
or
quotes.
You
received
one
response
for
the
and
it
was
fifteen
thousand
dollars.
You
can
proceed
with
that
or
the
director
of
community
development
has
extended
an
additional
fifteen
thousand
dollars.
C
If
you
want
to
expand
the
scope
a
little
and
then
we
can
go
back
out
for
additional
estimates
or
quotes
so
you'd,
have
your
fifteen
thousand
dollar
grant
from
the
state
that
you
were
going
to
apply
for
plus
the
department
would
put
in
an
additional
fifteen
thousand.
It's
totally
up
to
the
commission's
pleasure.
You
can
just
stick
with
the
grant
or
we
can
put
in
an
additional
fifteen
000
and
go
back
out
and
see
if
we
can
get
a
few
more
estimates
was.
G
There
you
said
the
director:
that's
brad,
right,
correct,
mr
power,
mr
power,
thank
you.
Was
there
certain
things
that
he
wanted
included?
Did
you
say
if
we
wanted
to
expand?
Did
he.
C
It
was
just
saying
if
you
wanted
to
see
if
you
could
get
more
as
estimates
or
quotes,
and
if
you
did
one
if
there
was
additional
work
you
wanted
to
include
in
those
quotes,
then
eric
could
include
that
eric
will
be
back
next
week.
He
just
had
a
personal
emergency.
He
had
to
go
back
home
for
back
home
to
ohio
or
iowa.
Excuse
me.
D
C
D
Okay,
no,
that's
that's
good
to
know,
and
that's
one
thing
just
for
you
know.
Other
folks
to
know
is
with
that
you
know,
survey
and
planning
grant
the
the
one
thing
that
was
kind
of
holding
us
up
was
having
a
estimate
in
in
hand,
is
one
of
the
requirements
from
somebody
who
meets
the
secretary
interior
standards
for
qualifications.
D
D
If
we,
you
know,
get
that
from
the
state
historical
fund
and
if
they're
willing
to
have
additional
funds,
the
the
you
know,
the
survey
plan
grant
is
going
to
outline
you
know
documentation,
so
it
can
make
informed
decisions
regarding
future
architectural
survey
projects.
D
So
then
you
know
we
can
kind
of
start
off
with
the
survey
plan
and
then,
if
there's
funds
are
there,
we
can
start
filling
in.
You
know
actually
executing
the
recommendations
that
they
make
with
within
that
plan.
So
I
guess
that's
perhaps
something
I
might
think
about,
but
also,
if
there's
other
things
that
there
may
be
other
options
to
utilize
those
funds
in
tandem
with
the
survey
plan
grant
you
know
app.
That
is
both
a
survey
plan
grant
as
well
as
perhaps
include
a
state
or
national
register
nomination
along
with
that
survey
plan.
D
Grant
you
can
kind
of
you
know,
dovetail
things
together
that
way.
So
that's
really
awesome.
I
think
that
that
their
support
for
potential
additional
funds-
and
I
think
that
gives
us
kind
of
you-
know
variety
of
options
to
go.
Go
forward
with
that
and
and
kind
of
based
on
people's
decisions.
You
know
with
that.
With
that
bit
in
hand,
that's
something
I
can
start
drafting.
D
You
know
the
grant
application.
You
know
unless
there's
you
know
kind
of
city
requirements
that
somebody
from
the
city
has
to
do
it.
It
could
be
something
like
I
put
it
together
and
then
you
know
it's
eric
who
sends
it
in
or.
G
C
If
I
can
clarify,
I
believe
it
is
it's
specific
for
the
survey
planning
for
the
survey
planning
this
additional
15,
000
or-
and
it
would
be
for
this
year
out
of
our
2020
budget.
I
I
believe
we
he
believes
that
this
can
be
done
this
year,
but
I
can
certainly
get
clarification
tomorrow
morning
and
email
everyone,
but
that
was
my
understanding,
is,
was
to
put
that
15
with
the
with
the
grant
15
and
get
a
robust
survey,
and
the
goal
would
be
to
have
it
done
by
the
end
of
this
year.
A
C
I
can
certainly
get
clarification
on
them
that
in
the
morning
and
email,
the
commissioners.
G
D
That
would
be
a
little
different
yeah
that
it's
a
little
different
process,
because
that
survey
planning
grant
that's
in
their
within
the
non-competitive
grants.
If
and
it's
certainly
the
other
way
around,
is
you
know
applying
doing
that
and
then
applying
later
for
an
intensive
level
survey
which
provide
a
much
higher
level
of
documentation
and
again,
you
know,
potentially
actual
state
or
national
register
nominations
but
yeah.
If
we
we
already
had
the
survey,
if
we
use
the
city
money
for
survey
planning
grant,
then.
D
Kind
of
done
we
that
grant
is
you
know
we
don't
wouldn't.
D
To
go
back
for
for
that
specific
grant.
B
F
D
That
would
probably
give
us
more
information
on.
If
you
know
what
lauren's
you
know
saying
is:
if
we
see
areas
that
perhaps
we
can
beef
up
with
city
money
once
we
kind
of
know
what
they
proposed
in
that
in
that
bid
or
yeah
estimate.
C
C
D
A
F
C
No,
I
mean
it's
all
going
to
be
going
through
the
community
development
department.
You
know
all
the
invoices
the
contract,
with
whichever
firm
would
be
doing
this
survey.
Everything
would
be
going
and
running
through
our
office
invoices
being
paid
things
like
that.
F
Okay,
but
would
it
have
to
I
mean,
would
with
the
company
that
gave
an
estimate,
would
they
have
to
send
another
estimate
to
include
with
the
survey
plan,
grant
application,
and
then
would
we
have
to
get
that
all
squared
away
by
the
end
of
the
year?
If
we
want
to
use
these
funds
that
are
only
for
2020.
C
F
D
Yeah,
I
guess
that's,
I'm
also
glad
you
brought
that
up.
So
you
know
I
know
I
brought
this
up
before,
but
that
clarify
is
you
know
with.
H
D
Financial
fallout
from
the
pandemic
on
the
sa
historical
fund
is
that
these
non-competitive
grants
are
kind
of
go
into
a
kind
of
a
queue.
First
come
first
serve
sort
of
thing,
so
I'm
not
privy
to
you
know
kind
of
what
other
lists
they
have
as
far
as
other
folks,
who've
applied
for
these
non-competitive
grants,
but
yeah.
H
D
Is
certainly
a
factor
that
it
could
be
that
we
we
apply,
we
put
in
our
application
but
state
historical
funds
not
able
to
get
back
to
us
until
you
know
next
year
or
something
like
that.
So
that
is
certainly
a
possibility.
B
Well,
if
we
can
get
the
detailed
jason,
are
you
willing
to
put
together
the
the
grant
application
since
you're,
probably
better
qualified
than
any
of
the
rest
of
us
to
do
that?.
D
Yeah,
I
can
do
that,
and
there
are
some
things
you
know
I'll
probably
have
to
coordinate
with
ericon
and
stuff,
but
that
is
something
I
and
you
know
I'll,
probably
have
to
ask
lauren
some
questions
and
stuff
too,
for
friends
does
something.
Certainly
I
can
you
know
take
on
once
that
have
that
information
kind
of
in
in
hand.
B
Well,
it's
it's
not
an
official
meeting.
Unless
three
of
us
are
on
the
are
emailing
each
other
right,
there's
only
two,
then
it's
just
a
communication.
A
B
That
would
be
good.
C
And
I'll
do
some
clarification
in
the
morning
with
with
brad
and
since
we
are
getting
down
to
six
weeks
between
between
now
and
the
end
of
the
year,
I'll
see
if
there's
any
wiggle
room
to
move
into
the
2021
budget
as
well,
but
I
will
send
that
email
to
everyone,
so
everyone's
on
the
same
page.
Okay.
Does
that
sound
good
yeah
thanks
you're
welcome.
B
Okay,
our
net.
Our
next
item
is
this
draft
letter
to
the
the
city
council
now
and
to
save
the
the
last
building
from
cinderella
city.
It
might
be
moot
now
what
I'm
not
sure
whether
everybody's
aware
of
the
results
from
the
election
that
the
voters
in
the
appropriate
district
approved
the
creation
of
the
downtown
development
authority
but
did
not
approve
giving
it
any
funding.
J
I
have
a
couple
questions
about
that.
Actually,
do
you
mind?
Sorry,
no,
okay,
you
know
what
josh
had
presented
had
a
lot
of
private
business
involved
in
it,
and
I
wonder
if
there's
opportunities
for
public-private
partnerships
that
could
potentially
fund
the
project,
and
so
that's
one
question
that
my
other
question
is-
and
this
actually
is
a
question
too,
for
a
councilman
questa.
J
Can
we,
as
a
commission,
request
a
study
session
with
city
council
to
discuss
the
project
sort
of
in
a
a
greater
sense
like
we
didn't
get
a
chance
to
meet
with
premba
today
and
have
those
questions
answered?
Josh's
presentation
was
excellent,
but
it
was
rushed
and
I
wonder
if
and
then,
and
then
we
can
maybe
explore
in
a
study
session
like
that,
the
possibility
of
private
public
partnerships.
L
You
bet,
I
would
say,
there's
two
ways
to
go
about
it,
and
so
and
pardon
me,
can
you
fill
me
in
on
the
meeting
with
mr
paremba
or
is
that
something
that
didn't
take
place
that
was
supposed
to
it.
L
Okay
and
the
reason
that
I
mentioned
him
is
he's
been
giving
most
of
the
updates
to
city
council,
as,
as
things
have
kind
of
moved
through
the
process,
and
I'm
not
sure
if
you
guys
have
the
background,
it's
it's
pretty
complicated
truth
be
told,
there's
a
couple
different
land
owners
there's
several
different
proposals
that
have
been
put
forth
dan
and
brad
have
a
terrific
understanding
of
it.
I
I'm
not
sure
how
tight
the
timeline
is
if
we
could
have
them
present
to
this.
L
This
group-
and
I
think,
maybe
even
the
next
meeting,
I'm
happy
to
reach
out
to
dan
and
see
if
he
can
make
it
or
brad
they
both
have
to
have
a
good
understanding,
but
I
think
dan's,
the
one
who's
I
mean
it
seems
like
he's
almost
working
on
it
full-time
with
the
dedication
he's
had
to
it
to
get
the
background
on
it,
and
then
you
know
we
can
get
our
thoughts.
L
But
certainly
anyone
in
the
boards
and
commission
is
is
welcome
to
speak
to
council
during
study
sessions,
and
that
can
be
a
two-way
conversation
things
we
want
to
suggest
or
information
we're
seeking
or
just
you
know,
presentations
of
guidance
that
we
would
like
to
provide.
You
know
conclusions
that
that
we've
reached
so
both
are
certainly
popular.
L
I
would
say
this
though
dan
dan
has
been
council's
go-to
when
we
have
questions
dan
is
still
the
fountain
of
wisdom
on
this
one,
and
so
there
are
certain
questions
that
you
could
put
to
council
and
your
answer
might
be.
We
should
go.
Ask
dan,
so
maybe
dan
might
not
be
the
bad
starting
point
followed
by
a
council
meeting
we're
due
to
get
in
front
of
council.
You
know
as
it
is,
I
think,
just
because
there's
a
few
things
we
can
present
to
them.
L
This
certainly
being
one
of
them,
and
I
can't
remember
who
immediately
brought
up
the
dda.
That
was
a
strange
outcome.
You
know
that
it
passed,
but
there's
no
funding,
and
so
it's
kind
of
still
to
be
seen
how
that's
going
to
take
shape
and
what
impact
that
has
on
on
the
civic
center
I
feel
like-
and
this
is
me
just
kind
of
predicting
where
this
goes
and
that's
always
a
bad
idea,
but
the
status
quo
seems
unlikely.
Call
it
two
years
from
now
three
years
from
now
four
years
from
now.
L
Does
that
building
look
the
same
as
it
does
now?
I
think
that's
unlikely
what
shape
that
building
has.
I
it'd
be
hard
for
me
to
even
speculate
at
this
point,
but
I
think
we're
still
very
much
on
the
front
end
of
it
and
now
is
the
time
to
get
input
to
counsel
to
staff.
I
thought
mr
goldstein's
presentation
was
terrific
too.
That's
there's,
definitely
parts
of
that
that
I
think
could
be
worked
into
the
conversation.
L
C
And
if
I
could
I'm
sorry
helene,
if
I
could
interject
mr
paremba
was
unable
to
be
here
tonight.
He
had
a
prior
commitment.
He
did
ask
that
I
pass
on
that.
Things
are,
are
continually
changing
with
the
development
with
skb
and
lnr
and
there's
a
long
way
to
go,
but
he
would
be
happy
to
come
speak
with
all
of
you.
A
B
Now
is
as
good
a
time
as
any
to
put
in
a
word
with
a
city
council
on
that
we
would
like
to
that
building
not
to
be
demolished.
B
Yeah,
you
know,
I
mean
start
start
early
and
say
it
often
so
this
is.
We
just
included
a
straw
dog
memo
that
I
wrote.
I
I
crib
some
of
it
out
of
the
historic
preservation
society's
letter
also
requesting
that
that
be
saved,
and
I
mean
I
don't
have
any
deep
commitment
to
this.
So
what
to
this
particular
memo?
So
if
anybody
has
edits,
they
would
like
to
suggest.
G
C
F
As
far
as
like
the
subject
of
it,
I
think
it
would
be
better
to
make
it
just
like
civics
or
city
center
redevelopment
or
whatever
they're
calling
it
so
that
it's
more
like
recognizable,
you
know,
and
then,
in
the
second
line
of
the
first
pair
or
the
second
paragraph,
you
say,
the
old
broadway
southwest
department
store.
I
would
change
old
to
former
or
something
like
that.
Just
that
has
a
more
you
know
more.
A
F
And
then
I
would
also
maybe
add,
like
you
say,
this
is
the
last
remaining
building
of
cinderella
city,
an
iconic
part
of
the
city's
history,
maybe
elaborate
on
that
a
little
bit
more
like
why
it's
so
important.
What
what
makes
this
building
significant
and
then
also
include
like
a
date.
You
know
when
was
cinderella
city
first
built
when
was
this
building
first
built
like
give
it
a
little
bit
more
context
or
something.
J
E
F
Yeah
yeah,
I
think
just
I
always
like
to
see
dates,
but
if
you
think
it
would
be,
you
know
detrimental
enough
to
include
the
dates
and
that's
fine.
B
Well
and
we've:
we
are
allowed
to
designate
things
that
are
less
than
50
years
old
if
they're
significant.
D
F
B
B
I
mean
it's,
not
it's
not
better
than
so.
Yeah.
B
If
mean
we
could
I've
got
a
version
of
it
on
my
machine,
we
could
do
it.
I
could
share
my
screen
and
we
could
but
adding
more
more
history
to
it
and
so
forth,
like
that
might
be
a
bit
time-consuming,
so
maybe
better
better
to
let
me
noodle
it
for
a
bit
and
then
bring
it
back
next
time.
I'm
sure.
E
Dave
well,
I'm
sure
dave
could
agree
that
councilman
requesta,
that
getting
this
letter
in
front
of
council
as
soon
as
possible
and
ahead
of
our
any
kind
of
study
session
would
probably
be
desirable.
Is
that
right.
L
It
wouldn't
hurt
to
lead
with
it.
You
know
if
you
can
introduce
our
meeting
or
introduce
it
prior
to
the
meeting
that
that
probably
would
be
helpful.
F
J
Merge
combination
and
prove
something
today
to
send
now
and
then
focus
on
that
history
more
during
the
study
session,
because.
C
E
H
E
Do
you
have
any
guidance
on
that.
E
E
Do
we
have
to
approve
the
letter
before
it
before
it
sends
before
we
send
it
to
council,
and
the
reason
being
is
that
we
have
a
few
edits
in
this?
Can
we
approve
the
changes
now
to
the
letters,
so
we
don't
have
to
wait
for
another
meeting
or
hold
us
some
sort
of
special
meeting.
C
So
you
have
two
options
you
can
make
the
changes
this
evening
and
approve
those
or
melinda
can
make
the
changes
as
discussed,
send
it
to
me
or
eric
and
send
it
back
out,
and
it
would
be
much
like
approving
minutes
via
a
poll
and
each
of
you
email
either
eric
or
me
back
without
copying
the
others
and
saying
yes,
I
approve
the
changes
and
then
it
can
be
forwarded
on
to
whether
you
want
to
send
it
to
council
member
cuesta.
C
Usually
what
we
do
is
we
send
it
to
krista
gravy,
who
is
the
assistant
to
city
council,
and
then
she
forwards
it
on
to
all
of
city
council.
B
I
pulled
it
up
and
I'm
working
on
it
as
we
speak.
C
C
L
You
know
I'll
jump
in
here.
I
will
mention
it.
We
had
a
meeting
this
past
sure,
okay,
we
have
on
monday,
we'll
have
one
this
monday
as
well.
We
won't
have
one
the
final
monday
of
november
and
then
we
have
two
more
meetings
in
december.
I
know
the
14th
is
the
last
one,
so
I'm
assuming
the
seventh
being
the
first,
I'm
not
sure
if
we
get
in
before
the
end
of
the
year,
but
they're
just
being.
L
I
guess,
there's
three
more
two
more
study
sessions
before
the
end
of
the
year
and
I
think
that
the
agenda
might
be
filled
out
on
those
already
so
it'd
probably
be
in
early
2021,
and
I
will
mention
that
at
our
at
this
coming
meeting
on
monday,
that
we'd
like
to
get
the
group
on-
and
you
know,
soonest
available
opportunity.
J
And
then
will
is
that
the
proper
forum
for
josh
goldstein
to
come
back
and
do
a
similar,
but
maybe
a
little
longer,
with
a
little
more
breathing
room
presentation
version
of
what
he
did
is
that
the
right
forum
for
that.
L
You
know
tip,
I
might
chat
with
the
city
manager
on
that.
It's
similar
to
what
he
did
here,
which
is
presenting
during
public
comment.
That's
usually
the
I'd
say
that
that's
the
most
conventional
avenue
for
folks
to
do
it.
Having
said
that,
five
minutes
is
where
you
cap
out
at
public
comment.
L
They
try
to
hold
to
that
now.
There's
certainly
exceptions,
and
you
know
his
it's
a
tremendous
presentation.
I
think,
frankly
him
squeezing
that
into
seven
minutes
or
eight
whatever
he
did.
It
seemed
like
he
was
having
to
speak
very
quickly
and
there's
enough
points,
I'd
hate
for
him
to
have
to
edit
it
too
much.
So
I'm
gonna
tell
the
city
manager
about
that
one.
I
think
it's
something
that
we
can
at
least
circulate
amongst
council
prior
to
the
meeting
he
gets.
L
He
gets
the
five
minutes,
let's
say,
but
hopefully
council's
read
it
in
advance,
and
so
they
kind
of
have
an
idea
of
what
he
suggested.
Then
we
can
discuss
it
from
there.
In
addition
to
that
there
I
mean
there
should
be
several
more
public
forums
that
are
going
to
take
place.
You
know,
as
decisions
are
made
on
how
they
move
forward
with
the
building
and
to
me.
L
I
think
that
his
he'd
be
a
very
valuable
voice
there
and
even
give
a
presentation,
because
council
goes
a
long
way
to
be
sure
and
council
makes
the
votes,
but
we're
we're
trying
to
get
the
most
feedback
from
the
public
as
we
can,
and
I
think
that
that
you
know
just
general
public
and
neighbors
might
be
real
receptive
to
some
of
his
ideas.
So
I
kind
of
like
to
get
those
out
there
into
the
public
conversation
as
well.
J
L
Correct
that
that'd
be
the
most
likely
course
of
how
that
would
take
place.
Okay,.
B
See
cj
and
lauren
you
are
going
to
work
on.
Could
we
designate
the
scared
house?
Did
you
learn
anything.
F
I
unfortunately
did
not
either
I
apologize.
I
had
it
written
down
on
my
list
of
things
to
do,
and
it
slipped
my
mind
until
today.
So.
F
D
And
just
for
my
identification
as
I
guess
so
what
what
we
got,
what
were
you
two
kind
of
looking
at,
like
you
know
for
our
local
designation,
or
were
you
kind
of
looking
at
options
for
other
designation
for
the
scared
house.
B
F
G
B
But
yeah-
and
that
was
the
thing
that
we
we
thought
we'd
start
with
a
local
designation
and
because
then
he
in
fact
the
application
for
the
state
designation.
One
of
the
questions
on
that
is
the
is
it
does
it
have
a
local
designation,
so
we
thought
that
would
doing
a
local
designation
would
be
a
good
first
step.
B
B
Suggested-
and
we
talked
about
last
meeting
that
as
long
as
they're
modifying
the
unified
development
code-
let's,
let's
modify
our
part
of
it
to
give
ourselves
a
little
more
teeth,
and
so
some
of
and
I
found
I
wish
cash
was
here,
but
I
I
did
find
his
research
documents
eventually
in
my
files.
So
a
lot
of
this
is
taken
straight
from
various
places.
B
So
if
you
want
to
look
through
that
foreign,
for
instance,
our
in
purpose,
I
added
stabilize
and
improve
property
values
by
conserving
historic
properties.
B
B
Let's
say
this
is
this:
is
a
draft
then
an
application?
Let's
update
that
the
application
is
actually
filed
with
the
commission.
G
G
E
I
made
note
of
that,
but
application
was
a
commission.
I
mean,
however,
however,
that
can
be
interpreted,
but
the
in.
E
E
You're
right
the
nice
thing
about
the
this
way
and
and
and
now
melinda
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
compare
this
word
for
word
to
the
title
16.
But
this
is
a
direct
copy
and
then
red
is
covered.
B
B
And
then
I
just
I
took
out
the
final
determination
made
by
council
because
it's
like
why
I
mean:
wouldn't
council,
approve
or
deny
based
on
our
recommendation.
G
D
D
That
way,
it
kind
of
you
know
it's
an
elected
official,
putting
the
final
stamp
on
it
and
that
typically
gives
it
the
force
of
whatever
other
regulations,
therefore
follow.
So
typically,
that's
something
that
usually
has
to
be
in
there
that
they're,
the
final
we
we
recommend
and
then
they
do
the
final
assignment.
E
E
I'll
see
I'll
look
at
this,
maybe
in
a
different
perspective.
I
guess
I
guess
my
initial
thought
on
this,
not
obviously
jason.
You
have
a
lot
more
experience
with
this
than
I
do,
but
my
initial
thought
from
a
legal
perspective,
not
being
a
lawyer
but
kind
of
understanding
how
things
work
in
the
city.
We
are
not
a
what
I
guess
what
they
call
a
quasi-judicial
board.
E
We
have
no
legal
authority
per
se,
so
our
decisions
may
not
be
legally
binding
if
we
make
a
decision,
whereas
the
council
is
a
judicial
kind
of
element
of
the
city,
so
they're
buying
their
their
decisions
would
be
legally
binding
based
upon
what
the
code
is,
that
is
that
kind
of
an
accurate
definition.
Okay,
however,
the
the
flip
side
to
that
is.
E
A
B
E
C
Interject
to
follow
up
on
what
matt
was
talking
about
just
so
you
understand
the
process
as
well.
This
would
not,
since
this
is
the
title
16
change,
this
would
not
go
directly
to
council
first.
This
will
go
to
planning
and
zoning
commission
will
require
a
public
hearing
and
for
the
public
to
comment
on
and
then
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
will
make
a
recommendation
to
council.
C
So
they'll
have
an
opportunity
to
wordsmith
it
and
do
whatever
and
then
it
will
go
to
council
with
their
recommendation
and
it
will
go
by
ordinance
and
it
will.
It
will
require
public
hearing
at
city,
council
and
a
first
and
second
reading,
so
that
would
be
the
process
for
any
amendment
to
title
16.
Just
so
you
know,
okay,.
E
E
Yeah
we're
we're
if
you
want
to
follow
along
we're
in
where
are
we
at
16
c
correct
to
e
as
a
result
and
the
final
determination
being
made
by
council,
which
we
struck,
that
that
was
the
concept
there,
but.
C
I
guess
I
misunderstood
your
question.
I
thought
you
were
talking
about
the
whole
part
in
the
process.
For
that
whole,
the
whole
title,
16,
historic,
designation
and
the
process
of
getting
that
approved.
I
apologize
for
interrupting.
G
B
Oh
well,
at
this
point,
we're
just
sort
of
putting
something
together
and
to
run
by
the
city
attorney.
E
To
the
council
and
then
various
public
hearings,
but
I
mean
back
on
topic
here
with
final
determination
made
by
council,
I'm
concerned
with
that
wording,
even
even
as
is
so,
I
think
melinda.
You
were
on
you're
on
to
the
right
you're
on
the
right
track
here.
We're
changing
that,
but
I
mean
because
if
the
final
determination
is
made
by
council
that
determination,
that
leaves
it
quite
open
for
council,
whereas
I
would
arguably
they
have
that
authority
in
any
way.
I
guess.
E
E
B
E
Yeah
I'll
also
throw
out
there
that
much
of
title
16
here
has
been
around
since
early
2000s,
yeah
yeah.
It
wasn't
still
just
recent
that
our
commission
was
formed
and
even
despite
our
commission
being
formed
under
the
authority
of
both
title
16
and
title
15.,
we
really
don't
even
have
the
authorities
yet
I
think
that
are
granted
within
title
16.
So
I
I
don't
know
that
it's
just
as
I
was
reading
this
and
and
working
with
doug
on
it.
It's
it's
it's
strange
because
there
are.
E
There
are
authorities
that
were
given
within
title
16
here
that
were
not
given
in
title
15,
which
title
15
was
the
formation
of
our
commission.
Whereas
title
16
says
what
our
commission
is
is
legally
allowed
to
do,
but
we've
we've
never
not
really
been
able
to
do
the
things
that
are
entitled.
You
get
my
point
right,
melinda.
E
B
Like
they
gave
us
the
the
job
title
and
no
authority,
which
is
why
we're
looking
for
more
teeth
now.
B
Yeah-
and
this
is
the
what
we've
been
actually
talking
about
for
some
time-
about
design
review
for
any
changes
to
a
designated,
an
already
designated
property.
B
And
this
this
verbage,
I
adapted
from
city
of
longmont,
good
research.
F
I
have
some
comments
about
this
section
and
then
I
also
just
have
some
more
general
comments
about
title
16
that
I
think
are
changes
we
should
make.
While
we
have
the
chance
and
they're
not
really
necessarily
specific
to
your
changes,
melinda
but
anyways.
With
regard
to
number
four
here
I
think
the
word
improve
in
there
is
very
subjective,
and
I
think
we
should
remove
that
and
also
the
word
significantly
is
also
very
subjective.
F
B
A
B
Would
issue
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
which
we'd
have
to
come
up
with
if
the
following
cri
for
a
listed
property
if
the
following
criteria
are
met
and
then
that.
A
F
The
other
thing
I
would
say
is
that
whole
okay,
I'm
just
gonna,
read
it
all
anyway,
significantly
alter
or
change
a
designated
property
or
any
property
in
a
historic
or
conservation
district
or
any
historic
landmark.
B
Because,
okay
and
while
in
the
course
we
haven't
designated
any
historic
districts
yet.
But
we.
A
F
B
E
B
Okay,
yeah
so
take
out
or
conservation.
F
I
would
honestly
take
out
that
whole
clause,
if
that's
the
proper
term
and
just
leave
it
as
or
in
any
way
alter
a
designated
landmark
period.
B
G
C
B
F
E
E
Of
your
your
comments,
because
I
know
I
think
you
had
some
other
comments
that
you
wanted
to
make.
But
in
talking
with
doug,
I
got
a
kind
of
a
list
of
things
that
he
was
he
was
talking
about
and
the
historic
society
was
also
discussing
too,
and
one
of
those
is
is
historic,
protection,
zoning
overlays
so
but
that
kind
of
goes
into
melinda's
statement
of
the
protection
district
for
a
historic
district.
B
G
B
Yeah,
I
know
and
that's
that's
the
word
they
use
in
longmont
and
I'm
assuming
we
could
probably
crib
a
form
from
them
too,
but
because.
E
B
Yeah-
and
I
mean
that
this
is
only
talking
about
a
design
review
of
changes
to
a
already
designated
landmark
right,
so
that.
G
B
Yeah
and
like
say
the
since
the
section
d
here
has
criteria,
you
know
for
building
new
structure
districts
and
that's
for
their
initial
designation
and
then
and
then
districts
and
then
it
stops,
and
so
the
I
added
the
criteria
again
from
longmont
on
and
just
called
the
construction
projects.
But
it
and
it's
because
we
refer
to
construction
projects
up
in
paragraph
four.
F
There,
if
we
could
go
back
to
criteria
or
the
section
d
criteria,
kind
of
what
I
was
getting
at
earlier
is
this
section.
F
It
doesn't
align
with
the
landmark
historic
landmark
form
that
we've
put
together
uh-huh
and
it's
in
my
opinion,
a
little
I
don't
know
outdated
compared
to
what
we
have.
So
that's
what
I
like
there's
parts
of
this
ordinance,
regardless
of
the
giving
us
more
teeth
that
just
need
to
be
changed
overall
and
updated.
F
So
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
discussion
for
right
now
or
another
time,
but
you
know
like
it
says
in
here
that
a
says
buildings
have
to
be
in
existence
for
at
least
50
years,
and
you
know,
we've
all
established
that
that's
not
necessarily
something
we
want
to
hold
ourselves
to
yeah
and
then
we've
developed
in
the
landmark
application,
different
significance
criteria
than
the
one
two
three
four
that
are
listed
here.
So
we
need
to
make.
F
F
Other
parts
of
the
whole
title
16
that
similarly,
don't
necessarily
align
with
what
we're
doing
and
what
we've
been
doing
and
one
I'm
I
don't
know
where
it
is
but
somewhere
in
here
is
the
word
aesthetic
and
that
should
really
be
taken
out,
because
that's
completely
subjective
and
aesthetics
change
over
time.
So
we
don't
want
to
be
basing
our
decisions
on
something.
That's
aesthetically,
pleasing.
A
E
E
Another
actually,
if
you
want,
are
you
in
the
pdf
cg.
G
G
B
Then
because
otherwise
I'd
have
to
type
it
in
by
hand,
because
I
don't
have
a
like
a
word
version
of
the
landmark
application.
I
only
have
a
pdf
or
printed
out
one,
so,
okay,
that
would
save
me
having
to
retype
the
whole
thing.
D
Yeah,
I
think
that's
a
good
point
because
yeah,
I
don't
think
we're
gonna,
have
this
whole
thing.
You
know
done
tonight.
Clearly
it's
already
after
eight,
but
you
know
just
kind
of
note
like,
like
you
know,
like
the
coming
upcoming
construction
project
criteria.
You
know
I
like
that.
D
I
have
some
suggestions
for
that
too,
as
well
as
some
language
and
concerning
particularly
historic
districts,
but
I
also
want
to
note
that,
if
we're
going
to
be
issuing
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
we're
also
going
to
need
sections
for
appeals
as
well
as
as
well
as
exemptions.
D
Those
are
things
that
are
just
gonna,
be,
you
know
legally
required
to
kind
of
have
in
there.
So.
A
E
Here's
a
question
actually
real
fast.
This
may
be
for
nancy.
Also
what
what's
our
timeline?
What's
our
allowance
for
these
changes.
C
G
G
G
B
Is
not
going
to
be,
or
it's
going
to
be
a
ongoing
thing
for
quite
some
time,
isn't
that
is
that
what
you're.
C
Asking
cj
is
when
to
submit
it
to
to
like
wade,
so
it's
incorporated
in
the
overall
udc
rewrite
there.
You
go,
oh
exactly
what
I
meant.
Okay,
sorry.
I
wasn't
understanding.
I
apologize
that
rewrite's
not
going
to
be
happening
until
2021,
so
probably
not
until
the
latter,
I
would
say
not
wouldn't
even
begin
until
summer.
Let's
put
it
summer.
G
And
that's
been
the
way
moving
forward,
melding
our
our
current
mission
and
and
objectives
with
this
historic
preservation,
16
doing
it
within
the
next
month
or
two
good.
Let's
move
forward
right,
yeah.
E
And
in
talking
with
doug-
and
I
know
that
doug
had
received
information
from
the
city
manager,
he
had
mentioned
that
he
was
hoping
to
get
the
input
from
the
historic
society
by
by
early
december.
Oh
dear,
that's
one
shot,
and
I
don't
then
that's
why
I
was
that's.
Why
doug
was
anxious
to
get
in
front
of
us
and
and
has
been
anxious
to
get.
You
know,
input
from
other
members
of
the
historic
society
so.
E
I
I
would
imagine
so
I
mean
I
I
don't
know
where
doug
got
his
information.
I
need
to
double
check
with
him
on
that,
because
we're
we're
rushing
on
our
side
to
get
our
recommendations
through,
because
we'll
be
we'll
be
addressing
a
few
other
areas
in
the
code.
Also
that
if
we
have
a
chance
here,
I'd
like
to
kind
of
go
over
and
just
let
you
know
what
the
historic
society
will
also
be
addressing.
H
E
Is
recommending
that
the
bulk
plane
for
structures
in
the
city
be
reset
back
to
12
feet
from
the
17
feet
that
it
currently
is
now
17
feet
being
a
change
that
occurred
in
2014
and
allowed
an
influx
of
construction
and
duplexes
and
some,
as
I
well
know,
a
three-story
duplex
right
next
door
to
me.
Yeah.
E
Built
under
the
allowance
of
the
17-foot
bulk
plane,
so
we're
going
to
be
making
a
recommendation
that
the
bulk
plane
is
is
is
reverted
back
to
12
feet
as
it
was
prior
to
2014.
E
also
want
to
make
a
recommendation
that
lot
coverage,
because
that
affects.
Obviously,
it
affects
the
character
of
the
neighborhood.
When
you
have,
you
know,
lot
lined
a
lot
lines.
New
builds
where
the
existing
homes,
the
legacy
homes,
the
traditional
character.
The
community
cannot
build
what
lined
a
lot
line,
at
least
in
englewood,
and
also
you
know
the
some
of
the
other.
E
I
guess
a
few
little
technical
details
about
how
the
construction
occurs
and
input
on
architectural
features
and
guidelines
along
those
along
those
things,
so
something
that
you
know
I
guess
go
along.
Is
it.
B
E
Yeah,
so
here
and
here's
I'm
sorry
here,
it
is-
I
got
bio
loss
here,
encourage
adapter,
reuse
renovation
of
existing
homes
instead
of
demolition,
create
tax
incentives
for
homes
to
be
remodeled
instead
of
being
demolished,
create
design
guidelines
for
new
construction
that
blend
with
existing
neighborhoods
create
incentives
when
these
design
guidelines
are
followed,
encourage
saving,
moving,
establish
trees
on
properties
where
construction
and
development
occurs,
so
those
are
that's
kind
of
the
avenue
that
the
historic
society's
taking.
E
I
don't
know
if
the
hpc
wants
to
take
that
too,
when
we
double
edge
it,
because
this
there's
been
a
free-for-all
in
england,
for
demolition
and
and
new
construction.
I
think
that
that's
starting
to
show
its
pain
in
many
ways
to
the
community.
E
So
I
don't
know
I'll,
let
you
guys
think
about
that.
The
the
points
that
doug
brought
up
for
for
us
tonight
regarding
this
was
give
the
hpc
authority
to
declare
structures
historic.
E
You
shall
make
historic
designations
recommend
that
you
make
changes
to
the
udc
chapter,
udc
code
chapter
15,
to
include
the
power
to
designate
with
preservation
protection.
Zoning
for
individual
places
so
and
doug
brings
up
a
good
point.
We're
in
chapter
16,
we're
in
also
in
chapter
15.
15
is
our
formation
of
our
group,
which
gives
us
the
legal
authority
to
exist.
16
is
what
the
authority
of
what
our
actions
are
is
how
I
understand
that
it
could
be
totally
wrong,
but
that's
as
I
understand
it,.
G
E
Title
15
yeah
chapter
15,
I
guess,
would
be
the
title
but
chapter
15
would
be
interesting
to
look
at
and
see
if
there's
anything
that
needs
to
be
changed
from
there.
E
This
purview,
but
also
would
recommend
changing
the
wording
of
16611
b,
to
say
pr,
the
say
the
preservation
application
should
be
made
to
the
commission
and
that
the
commission
would
have
the
authority
to
approve
it.
Currently,
the
city
staff
does
that
I'm
not
sure
what
he
means
by
that
specifically,
but
that's
kind
of
in
line.
I
think,
with
what
we
were
talking
about.
E
Four:
give
yourself
the
authority
to
create
a
historic
overlay,
zoning
designation
for
each
property
and
do
it
parcel
by
parcel.
If
there
is
a
large
area,
give
yourselves
the
authority
to
create
a
protective
designation
for
a
historic
zoning
overlay
and
decide
if
owners
would
need
if
all
owners
would
need
to
agree.
E
These
are
just
thoughts,
throwing
them
out
there.
I
got
a
couple
more
if
you
want
me
to
continue
linda.
E
Yes,
okay,
make
an
inventory
of
historic
homes
and
buildings,
we're
already
working
on
that
the
historic
preserve
protection.
Zoning
overlay
would
need
to
be
carefully
written
and
would
need,
and
it
would
be
real.
Could
the
owner
make
exterior
changes
like
storm
windows,
those
sort
of
things?
Those
are
things
we
have
to
decide.
E
E
E
G
E
So
that
I
I
don't
know
if
that's
if
that's
related
to
property
tax
necessarily,
but
that
there
is.
E
Property
tax
associated,
but
then
there's
also
one
could
argue
that
a
tax
would
be
a
permitting
fee.
Tax
would
be
an
inspection
fee
would
be.
You
know
things
along
those
lines
for
a
business
owner.
You
know
they're
sure,
but
I
think
their
taxes
are
slightly
different
or
their
gauge
slightly
different.
So
for
a
business
owner
on
a
commercial
structure,
there
could
be
a
much
bigger
benefit
there.
G
Yeah,
why
don't
you
send
what
you
have
that
is
resp
related
specifically
to
16
and
to
melinda,
so
you
got
melinda,
jonathan
and
lauren,
giving
I
mean
and
matt
pulling
every
and
then
melinda's
going
to
pull
it
all
together
to
send
out
16
and
then
15.
We
should
talk
about
for
sure.
Next
meeting
put
it
on
the
agenda,
I
mean
we're
gonna
have
to
finish
talking
about
16,
but
it
could
be
sent
out
for
us
to
pre-read
before
the
meeting
and
yeah.
E
So
I
have
a
copy
of
15
and
I
have
a
copy
of
16
and
I've
got
a
copy
of
the
notes
that
that
that
we
kind
of
just
you
know
put
together
as
a
historic
society
here
so
nancy.
Would
you
like
me
to
send
those
to
you
so
that
you
can
send
them
to
the
rest
and
put
those
on
the
record,
or
can
I
send
those
directly
to
linda.
C
G
B
E
B
Oh
and
lauren,
I
did
find
the
aesthetic
reference
there
and
deleted
you
know
or
aesthetic
interest,
yeah
yeah,
that's
subjective.
B
Well,
I
suppose
you
know,
like
not.
Everybody
appreciates,
for
instance,
the
arts
and
crafts
period
that
so
many
englewood
houses
are
exemplify,
but
I
don't
know
whether
it's
aesthetically
pretty
pleasing
or
not.
I,
I
think
so,
but.
B
So,
let's,
oh,
let's
move
on
staff's
choice.
Do
you
have
anything.
C
I
was
able
to
find
out
the
name
of
the
company
that
submitted
the
estimate.
It's
pinion,
p-I-n-y-o-n
environmental,
and
I
do
have
that.
I
will
get
that
sent
out
to
everyone.
I
did
send
out
josh's
presentation
from
this
evening
already
to
all
of
you,
so
you
should
have
that
in
your
email
and
eric
she'll
be
back
next
month.
Hopefully
yeah.
G
A
G
J
I
have
a
follow-up
question
for
council
member
cuesta.
You
had
mentioned
two
different
individuals
who
would
be
able
to
answer
a
lot
of
questions
about
the
city
center
development
project.
I
think
one
of
them
was
named
dan.
I
mean
you.
J
L
J
Was
about
it,
so
my
only
and
you
had
said
nancy
that
he
would
be
able
to
come
to
a
future
meeting
to
help
us
out,
because
I
know
we,
I
think
we're
just.
We
don't
really
know
all
the
details
of.
What's
really
going
on
and
councilmember
questa.
You
had
said
that
he
could
get
us
oriented
before
we
ever
did
even
meet
with
city
council.
C
C
Guys,
actually,
I
think
it
was
different
times,
and
I
think
you
had
a
get
together
with
a
historic
preservation,
society
or
something
well.
That
was
a
couple
years
ago.
B
C
G
G
Cj
here
what
I
want
to
share
is
I
sent
out
to
you
guys,
forwarded
that
history,
colorado
or
colorado
history
camp,
some
colorado
camp,
something
like
that!
History,
colorado
camp,
isn't
didn't
happen
this
year,
but
the
idea
what
they
did
was
create
speakers
every
thursday
on
facebook
on
this
pursuit
of
history,
and
it
is
so
amazingly
diverse
on
history
of
people
and
places
and
politics-
and
I
don't
know
geographies-
I
mean
it's
just
so
bizarre-
how
what
you
listen
to
one
week
and
what
you
can
listen
and
it's
totally
free.
G
So
I
sent
it
all
out
to
you
guys
because
I
was
thinking
you
know
what.
Maybe
there
might
be
a
history
nut
out
there
that
might
be
interested
in
something
like
this,
so
just
to
share
the
information.
That's
what
I
had
to
do.
J
We're
all
history
geeks,
I
was
gonna,
say,
there's
a
whole
commission
of
history
nuts
out
there.
I
had
another
update
that
I
wanted
to
share
with
the
group.
The
library
board
voted
last
meeting
to
have
a
podcast
studio
put
in
the
library,
and
so
it's
kind
of
moving
forward,
and
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
guys
all
know
that
that's
happening
and
community
members
are
going
to
be
able
to
submit
an
application
to
use
it,
and
we
could
also
do
that
too.
J
So,
as
things
develop
like
with
the
map
project
or
there's
like
anything
interesting
that
we
want
to
share
with
the
community,
there
will
be
like
a
podcast
studio
that
we
can
use
to
produce
something.
And
then
those
podcasts
will
live
on
the
library
site
and
we
could
also
put
them
on
any
site
that
we
have
as
well.
So
that's
a
resource.
That's
coming.