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B
A
No,
you
haven't,
I've,
been
I've
been
out
of
the
office
for
a
while
too
had
some
family
health
stuff.
So,
oh.
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B
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A
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B
C
B
A
D
D
B
Michelle
just
so,
you
know
diane
and
carl
will
not
be
attending
tonight.
Okay,
thank
you.
B
B
C
B
B
B
C
I
guess
it
doesn't
show
the
the
screen
all
right,
glad
that
didn't
work
out.
A
C
C
Stop
the
pain,
please,
okay,
I
can
raise
hands
under
reactions
also
for
me,
I
wonder
if
that's
just
a
separate,
because
I
thought
it
was
under
participants
as
well,
so
there
we
go.
B
D
B
I
will
kate
townley
here
mcdonaldson
here
colin
hagerty.
F
B
All
right
well
welcome.
Diane
lepofsky
is
absent,
noel
atkins.
F
C
F
D
That
was
my
next
question
about
these
people,
who
I
see
here
all
right
if
they're,
seeing
that
there's
no
public
to
have
a
public
hearing,
we
now
will
open
the
case
of
2020-30
1375
east
hampden
avenue
a
vacation
right-of-way
and
I'm
supposed
to
hand
it
off
to
brooke.
I
believe
brooke.
A
Okay,
thank
you
and
good
evening.
Commissioners,
as
I
was
saying
to
meg
earlier,
my
name
again
is
brooke
bell.
I'm
not
I'm
certain.
I
haven't
met
some
of
you
in
person,
but
this
I
haven't
presented
in
front
of
planning
zoning
commission
in
a
little
bit.
I
have
been
involved
somewhat
in
the
title:
16
rewrite
but
anyways.
A
If
I
haven't
met
you
hello,
I'm
a
senior
planner
with
community
development
department
and
if
you
don't
mind,
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
try
and
share
my
screen
here
and
hopefully
we'll
have
good
luck
with
that,
let's
see.
A
Okay,
can
everybody
see
that.
B
A
Okay,
can
you
see
when
I
move
my
mouse
around.
A
A
Okay,
let's
see
here.
A
And
I
don't
know
how
to
get
rid
of
that
next
slide,
but
if
everyone
can
see
it,
okay,
I'm
fine
proceeding.
Does
that
work
for
everybody.
A
E
D
C
A
Yeah,
it's
better
because
it's
bigger-
let's
just
do
it
like
that.
Okay,
so,
as
I
mentioned
before,
tonight's
agenda
item
is
a
request
for
the
vacation
of
ali
right
of
way
at
1375
east
hampton
avenue,
and
before
I
get
started.
Let
me
just
kind
of
orient
you
to
the
site
a
little
bit.
A
This
is
a
survey
of
the
site
with
it
is
the
3400
block
between
south
lafayette
street
to
the
east
and
south
marion
street
to
the
west,
and
then
old
hampden
is
on
the
southern
side
of
this
block.
This
survey
does
not
show
the
entire
block,
but
I
did
want
to
point
one
thing
out,
and
that
is
obviously
the
block
is
bisected
by
an
alley
that
runs
up
northerly
from
the
east
hampden
avenue
and
then
before
it
makes
it
all
the
way
to
gerard
avenue.
A
It
actually
turns
right
or
to
the
east
and
exits
back
out
onto
lafayette
street.
To
put
this
in
a
little
bit
more
context.
Obviously,
north
is
up,
but
in
the
right
hand,
portion
of
the
drawing
across
from
this
property
across
lafayette
from
this
property
and
to
the
east
would
be
the
marks
apartment
complex.
A
The
the
very
large
apartment,
complex
and
then
to
the
to
the
south
of
of
and
across
east
hampden
avenue,
is
actually
a
little
retail
development
that
believe
it
or
not
is
actually
part
of
cherry
hills,
village,
it's
their
only
retail
in
their
entire
city,
it's
kind
of
a
triangle
and
it's
kind
of
a
successful
little
piece
of
retail
and
then
moving
to
the
west
on
the
other
side
of
south
marion
street
is
actually
a
7-eleven
that
fronts
onto
east
hampden
avenue
and,
as
you
travel
farther
west,
there's
some
other
retail
establishments
and
kachina,
tacos
and
etc.
A
As
far
as
this
particular
property,
it's
made
up
of
four
parcels.
They
are
all
owned
by
the
applicant.
The
alpine
inglewood
opportunity,
business
llc
and
the
four
parcels,
the
largest
parcel,
is
actually
what
used
to
be
the
bullock's
mortuary
and
then
across
the
alley
from
that
was
an
associated
parking
lot
with
bullock's
mortuary
and
then
there's
two
residential
properties
to
the
north
of
the
bullock's
mortuary
property.
A
And
so
all
these
properties
that
are
bounded
by
the
darker
border
are
owned
by
the
alpine
inglewood
opportunity,
and
you
can
see
the
existing
structures
on
them.
There
are
also
two
residential
properties
that
are
north
of
alpine's
property
and
then,
of
course,
you
see
the
alley.
A
A
A
So,
as
I
mentioned
alpine
englewood
opportunity,
business
llc
is
requesting
the
vacation
of
approximately
1600
feet
of
the
alley
right
away
between
marion
and
lafayette.
A
A
Vacation
and
in
order
to
keep
the
alley
functioning,
the
applicant
is
proposing
the
dedication
of
a
25-foot,
wide
transportation
and
utility
easement
to
the
city
of
englewood
to
allow
vehicles
to
access
the
remaining
portions
of
the
alley
and
I'll
show
you
that
in
a
moment
and
the
transportation
and
utility
easement
would
also
allow
for
the
continued
conveyance
of
both
public
and
private
utilities,
public
being
dry
utilities
such
as
comcast
centurylink,
excel
and
then
through.
This
easement
would
also
contain
some
private
utilities,
which
would
basically
serve
the
new
apartment
building.
A
So
in
this
next
slide,
we've
taken
that
same
survey
and
superimposed
the
proposed
apartment
building
over
it
and
you
can
see
the
apartment
building
does
cross
the
alley.
So
what
the
applicant
is
requesting
is
to
vacate
the
north-south
portion
of
the
alley
from
this
dark
line
on
the
north
all
the
way
to
hampden,
and
then
they
would
dedicate
a
transportation
and
utility
easement
in
an
east
west
direction.
25
feet
wide,
such
that
by
the
time
you
connect
this
east-west
new
portion
of
the
alley
to
the
existing
north-south
and
back
out
to
south
lafayette.
A
The
alley
would
continue
to
function.
You'll
notice,
the
east-west
legs
of
the
alley,
both
on
the
north
side
here
and
on
the
south
side,
are
25
feet
wide
and
they
need
to
be
that
wide
to
assist
with
some
turning
radiuses
for
trash
trucks.
So
that,
in
essence,
is
is
is
what
the
request
is.
A
A
The
applicants
architectures
would
also
like
to
speak,
but
this
project
really
started
in
january
of
2020,
but
with
covet
and
everything
it
kind
of
got
put
on
the
back
burner
for
about
six
months
and
so
in
june,
of
2020
alpine
submitted
for
an
initial
drt
or
development
review
team
meeting,
and
that
initial
submittal
was
a
six-story
building
with
137
units,
with
a
combination
of
studio,
one
bedroom
and
two
bedroom
units
and
a
structured
parking
garage
of
169
spaces,
which
is
equivalent
of
1.23
spaces
per
unit.
A
I
should
mention
that
multi-use
or
multi-unit
apartments
are
a
use
by
wright
in
both
the
m1
and
m2
zone
districts.
This
site
actually
straddles,
has
a
little
bit
of
of
its
site
in
each
of
those
zone.
Districts,
but
multi-unit
apartments
are
used
by
right,
meaning
they
can
be
approved
administratively.
A
And
at
any
rate,
staff
and
and
in
the
in
the
development
review
team,
reviewed
the
submittal
and
provided
the
applicant
with
with
review
comments,
as
we
always
do,
and
they
were
mainly
centered
around
parking
building
setbacks
and
landscaping
after
the
applicant
had
a
chance
to
digest
those
comments.
F
A
Based
on
some
of
the
staff
comments,
the
the
applicant's
alpine
decided
to
reduce
the
total
number
of
units
by
about
19
units
down
to
118
units
total
and
they
increased
the
amount
of
parking
spaces
to
189
or
increased
it
by
20
spaces,
bringing
the
parking
ratio
up
to
1.6
spaces
per
unit,
which
is
within
within
four
percent
of
of
of
the
the
ultimate
requirement
which
was
acceptable
to
both
community
development
and
and
and
the
traffic
division.
A
So
that's
a
little
bit
of
background.
The
on
top
of
the
the
parking
and
unit
count.
A
The
applicant
also
re
revise
the
design
and
really
increase
the
setbacks
from
the
street
to
provide
an
enhanced,
streetscape
and
and
more
ability
to
have
a
detached
walk
that
is
much
more
pedestrian
friendly
with
a
tree
lawn
and
a
much
better
tree,
streetscape
on
on
each
of
the
frontages
of
old,
hampden,
lafayette
and
south
marion
street.
A
Additionally,
the
ground
floor,
most
of
the
ground
floor
units
have
patios
or
direct
access
out
to
the
street,
rather
than
just
having
an
internal
entry
which
kind
of
activates
the
street
and-
and
I
think,
creates
a
a
nicer
nicer
project.
A
Here's
kind
of
what
what
that
looks
like
so
again
here
is
really
a
floor
plan
and
site
plan
at
the
ground
level.
Again,
this
is
only
the
first
floor.
A
It
is
six
stories,
but
you
can
see
here
again
the
surrounding
streets,
lafayette
to
the
east
hampden
to
the
south
marion
to
the
west,
and
you
can
see
on
sort
of
the
back
side
of
the
apartments
you
can
see
the
new
portion
of
alley
going
east
west
and
then
the
existing
portion
of
valley
going
north
south
and
then
you
can
see
the
apartment
units
face,
face
the
street
and
and
really
what
this
is
called
and
we've
got
another
example
here
in
in
city
of
inglewood,
at
the
belle
cherry
hills.
A
This
is
called
a
texas
wrap
and
the
idea
here
is
you.
You
essentially
try
to
hide
the
parking
garage
and
surround
it
could
be
on
two
sides:
three
sides,
four
sides
with
the
units
themselves,
and
so
each
floor
of
units
has
direct
access
to
the
parking
garage
and,
and
the
garage
itself
is
is
largely
hidden.
So
it's
it's
a
nice
product
and
again
I
I
mentioned
that
bell:
cherry
hills,
project
at
the
kenyan
and
broadway.
A
So
in
terms
of
the
floor
plan,
this
sort
of
tan,
tannish
oranges,
color,
is
the
units
that
are
on
the
first
floor
and
you
can
see
little
balconies
or
porches
that
are
exiting
onto
the
sidewalk
at
the
street
level.
And
then
this
kind
of
light
blue
area
is
kind
of
an
amenity
area.
That's
got
you
know
a
lobby,
some
co-working
space,
a
gym
and
and
some
office
space,
and
then
you
can
see,
of
course,
the
parking
garage
and
and
then
around
the
perimeter.
A
You
see
a
an
exterior
landscape
tree
lawn
with
trees
in
it
and
then
a
detached
sidewalk.
I
believe
that
tree
lawn
is
six
feet
wide.
The
sidewalk
is
five
feet
wide
and
then
there's
two
or
three
feet
between
the
sidewalk
and
the
building
for
additional
plantings,
so
it
makes
for
a
nice
streetscape.
A
A
One
one
thing
about
this
l
building
configuration
that
to
me
relates
to
the
vacation
of
the
alloy
request
and
one
of
the
advantages
of
this.
This
l
building
configuration
and
not
having
the
site
bisected
by
the
alley
is.
It
creates
obviously
one
contiguous
building
rather
than
two
separate
buildings,
and-
and
it
has
a
number
of
advantages.
D
A
If,
if
you
separate
the
site
with
the
alley
and
the
applicant
tries
to
develop
it,
they're
they're
either
going
to
have
these
sort
of
two
separate
buildings
that
each
have
a
parking
garage
and
also
each
have
some
units
which
will
make
it
difficult
to
hide
a
parking
garage
or
they,
and
we
don't
know.
Of
course,
they
could
potentially
try
to
make
one
of
the
sides
of
the
alley
more
of
a
parking
garage
and
the
other
side
more
of
a
the
apartment
building.
A
The
other
thing
it
does
is
if
those
two
activities
are
separate,
the
parking
and
the
apartments
people
have
to
go
down
to
the
ground
floor,
cross
and
and
go
to
a
parking
garage
and
then
up
to
whatever
level
they're
on
so
it
there
are
some
advantages,
aesthetically
and
functionally
to
having
one
contiguous
building
and
and
then
also
you
trying
to
focus
on
how
that
relates
to
the
street.
A
A
Okay,
so
here
is
an
exterior
rendering
of
the
a
proposed
apartment
building
and
we're
looking
sort
of
at
an
angle
to
the
northwest.
Long's
peak
would
be
behind
there
and
so
to
the
right
of
the
drawing
is:
is
lafayette
on
the
bottom
side
of
the
drawing
is
hampden
and
then
on
the
farther
left
would
be
marion,
and
so
you
can
see
the
six
story.
A
You
can
see
that
they've
highlighted
that
amenity
area
with
some
additional
brick,
and
that's
that's
what
that
view
looks
like
the
next
view
is
looking
kind
of
north
east
from
old
hampden.
You
can
see
the
entry
again.
A
You
can
also
see
kind
of
a
a
rooftop
lounge
on
the
left
side
of
the
drawing
and
a
rooftop
patio
on
the
sixth
floor
there
and
then
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
point
out
is
I'll.
Go
back.
One
slide
is
you'll
notice
that,
on
the
hampton
side,
you've
got
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
these
patios
coming
off
the
units
and
those
are
recessed,
then,
on
the
lafayette
side,
they're
sort
of
cantilevered
out.
A
So
you
get
a
couple
of
different,
looks
there
and
then
the
final
view
here
is
actually
is:
is
looking
south
east
from
marion
and
actually
in
this
part
of
the
the
rendering
where
it
looks
like
a
kind
of
a
surface
parking
lot,
there's
actually
an
apartment
building,
and
I
think
they
left
that
off
just
so,
you
could
see
the
rest
of
the
the
building,
but
you
can
imagine
if
there's
an
apartment
building
there,
you
really
don't
see
much
of
the
parking
garage
other
than
when
you're
just
passing
by
this
east-west
leg
of
the
alley,
but
most
of
the
parking
garage
is
hidden.
A
A
None
of
the
departments
or
divisions
had
any
objections
to
the
vacation
request
and
or
the
proposed
easement.
When
you
know
when
you
get
that
easement
back
and
the
alley
becomes
fully
functioning
again,
the
city
of
englewood
really
doesn't
have
any
public
interest
in
the
alley
right
of
way
anymore.
A
The
applicant
did
provide
clearance
letters
from
the
dry
utility
providers,
including
centurylink
comcast
and
excel.
They
had
no
objection
to
the
alley.
Vacation
request
xl
did
ask
that
their
existing
gas
and
electrical
facilities
remain
operational
when
that
access
is
maintained
until
they've
been
relocated,
which
is
very
typical
and
and
when
we
when
the
vacation.
A
B
B
Okay,
kate,
townley
thanks.
I
just
had
a
quick
question
about
the
easement
and
trying
to
get
like
the
context.
I
was
looking
at
the
google
map,
so
the
cars
that
are
coming
out
of
the
easement
heading
west.
They.
D
B
B
I
have
one
more
one
more
hand
noel.
Thank
you,
the
renderings
that
you
just
showed.
Are
they
representative
of
the
the
updated
larger
setbacks
that
you
discussed?
Are
those
renderings
of
the
the
previous.
A
No,
these
are,
these
are
the.
I
believe
these
are
the
larger
or
the
the
latest.
I
did
notice.
You
can
see
that
on
the
corner-
and
I
didn't
I
didn't
the
plan
view
doesn't
really
show
this.
A
The
applicant
made
the
corner
itself
a
little
bit
more
urban
and
you
can
see
these
tree
grates
and
what
appear
to
be
pavers
in
between
the
curb
and
the
sidewalk,
at
least
on
the
corner,
near
this
entry
and
a
little
bit
on
to
lafayette,
whereas,
as
you
move
farther
away
from
that
entrance
and
from
the
corner,
it
becomes
more
of
a
grass
tree
lawn.
So
just
a
little
bit
more
urban
treatment
on
the
corner
itself.
A
Sometimes
perspective
drawings
can
be
a
little
deceiving,
as
I
mentioned,
I
believe,
there's
13
or
14
feet
between
the
back
of
the
curb
and
the
building,
so
that
you've
got
about
six
feet
of
tree
lawn
five
feet
of
sidewalk
and
two
or
three
feet
of
planted
area
between
the
sidewalk
and
the
building
itself.
A
Great.
Thank
you.
Oh
no
problem.
Okay,
let's
continue
on
here.
So
this
is
just
I'm
sorry
that
this
slide
is
a
little
blurry.
This
is
again
what
what
a
minor
subdivision
will
look
like,
and
I
say
a
minor
subdivision
is:
if
council
approves
the
vacation
of
ali
request
and
the
dedication
of
the
easement.
These
will
all
be
memorialized
on
a
minor
subdivision,
and
so
again
now
you'll
have
one
property.
A
You
see
this
dark
line
around
the
entire
property
that
would
cross
the
alley,
and
that
would
be
one
single
property
and
with
this
vacated
portion
of
valley
now
being
absorbed
into
the
property.
But
then
this
east-west
leg
of
property
being
dedicated
as
a
transportation
and
utility
easement
to
the
city.
I
I
should
note
that
the
amount
of
land
that
is
being
dedicated
for
the
transportation
and
utility
easement
is
actually
about
twice
as
much
land
as
the
the
land
being
vacated
for
the
alley
or
the
alley.
A
The
vacated
alley
amount
of
land.
So
just
to
kind
of
summarize,
the
applicant
is
requesting
that
this
alley
right
away,
be
vacated
and
distributed
back
to
the
current
property
owners,
which
is
actually
the
applicant
since
they
own
the
property
on
both
sides
of
the
portion
of
the
alley.
That's
being
requested
to
be
vacated.
A
The
applicant
again
is
proposing
the
dedication
of
a
25-foot
wide
transportation,
utility,
easement
and
finally,
staff
does
recommend
that
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
recommend
that
city
council
approve
the
requested
alley
vacation
and
propose
dedication
of
the
transportation
and
utility
easement.
So
with
that,
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
more
questions.
B
The
parking
lot
in
the
southwest
corner
at
marion
and
hampden
about
34
spaces
do
we
know
who
uses
that
right
now
or
what
uses
that
right.
Now.
A
That
was
for
the
mortuary
and
the
mortuary.
C
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
the
presentation.
It
is
really
a
very
nice
looking
facility
and
I
appreciate
the
I've
never
heard
it
called
a
texas
wrap,
but
it
does
hide
the
parking
garage
quite
well.
I
noticed
the
turning
movements
for
the
new
easements
were
shown,
but
they
don't
continue
on
to
the
lafayette
exit.
I
think
you
said
those
were
the
same
width,
so
I'm
assuming
that's
going
to
be
this,
the
the
same
movement.
C
But
can
you
confirm
that
since
there
is
a
dead
end
at
the
north
end
as
well,
that
actually
will
work
for
both
sides.
A
And
I
think
that
I'm
going
to
scroll
up,
I
hope
nobody
gets
dizzy,
but
you
can't
see
it
very
good,
but
in
this
particular
slide
this
east-west
that
exits
to
the
lafayette
is
is
obviously
it's
existing
and
you
can
you
can?
If
you
look
close
enough,
you
can
see
it
says
25-foot
alley.
A
We
also
did
this
on
another
project.
I
don't
know
if
you're
familiar
with
the
new
synergy,
medical
building.
That
is
right
across
from
the
main
swedish
entrance
on
the
south
side
of
hampden.
It's
moving
along
really
well
in
construction,
and
we
did
the
same
thing
that
building
crosses
an
alley
between
pearl
and
pennsylvania
and
exact
same
thing.
We
did
a
25
foot
wide
alley.
A
I
think
the
applicant
and
their
presentation
also
has
that
turning
radius
but
yeah.
It's
it's
a
common
width.
If,
if
you're
going
to
turn
it.
C
B
D
I
have
a
couple
questions
I
think
at
that
synergy
project.
Didn't
the
applicant
pave
the
alley.
A
Yes-
and
they
did-
and
I
believe
that-
and
I
I'd
like
to
clarify
that
I
was
reading
in
some
of
the
notes-
I
believe
this
alley
is
going
to
be
paved
as
well
and
and
I
believe
it's
in
its
entirety.
If
I'm
wrong,
please
correct
me.
That
would
not
be
a
good
thing
to
be
wrong
about,
but
I
believe
the
entire
alley
from
marion
to
lafayette
is
going
to
be
paved.
A
There
there
will
be
some
visitor
parking
in
the
garage,
and
I
also
forgot
to
mention
some
loading
spaces,
but
there
will
be
some
visitor
parking
in
the
garage
and
I
think
the
lion's
share
of
that
visitor
parking
will
be
real
close
to
the
garage
entry
so
that
you
can
also
enter
you
know
quicker
into
the
lounge
and
you
know
leasing
office.
I
I
forgot
to
mention
a
couple
of
loading
spaces
right
here,
where
I'm
showing
with
my
my
cursor.
A
Those
are
loading
spaces
not
only
for
deliveries
but
obviously
with
an
apartment.
Building.
You've
got
people
moving
in
so
there's
two
loading
spaces
there
that
will
handle
a
large
moving
truck
that
can
that
can
typically
move
a
two
or
three
bedroom
apartment.
B
C
Colin
yeah,
I
did
actually
that
kind
of
pinged
one
more
question.
You'd
said:
there's
1.6
spaces
per
units,
that's
obviously
for
the
residential
side
does
an
m2
require
retail
space.
Excuse
me
fronting
hampton.
Is
that
going
to
be
included
with
this.
A
Facility,
so
the
difference
between
m1
and
m2,
you
you,
I
think
you
kind
of
you
you
hit
you
hit.
What
the
difference
is,
and
that
is
is
that
in
the
m1
district
you're
not
allowed
to
have
retail
per
se
and
in
the
m2
you're
allowed
to
have
a
limited
amount
of
retail,
but
you're
not
required
to
have
retail
in
the
m2.
A
Now
there
are
some
provisions.
If
you
have
a
a
stand-alone
parking
garage
that
fronts
hampden,
that
a
certain
depth.
Excuse
me,
a
certain
depth
of
the
the
the
first
x
amount
of
feet
has
to
be
some
kind
of
a
commercial
use,
but
but
retail
per
se
is
not
required
for
this
project.
C
A
Correct
and
and
and
I
think
that
requirement
that
you're
describing
applies
to
certain
streets
frontages
of
hampden-
I
believe
clarkson
and
there
may
be
another
street
or
two
now
how
that
would
apply
the
farther
north.
A
You
would
go
up
on
lafayette,
I
I
I'm
not
sure
it
would
apply
the
farther
you
went
up
on
lafayette
and
that's
why
there
is
a
little
bit
of
a
concern
to
me
if,
if
that
parking
garage,
where,
as
you
go
farther
north
on
lafayette,
were
to
poke
out
towards
towards
lafayette
where
it
would
actually
be
visible
or
if
somebody
ended
up
having
to
do
that
to
make
a
project
work
anyways,
we
don't
know
that
right
now,
but
this
wrap
configuration
is
is,
is
preferable?
Put
it
that
way.
C
Okay
and
then
just
maybe,
to
clarify
there
is
no
retail
proposed
with
this.
They
have
like
some
amenity
area
or
something
or.
A
A
There
was
originally
and
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
when
you
speak
hirsch,
but
originally
there
was
going
to
be
a
little
bit
of
retail
space.
It
was,
but
it
wasn't
very
significant
and
actually
not
having
the
unless
you're
going
to
have
a
pretty
significant
amount
of
retail.
A
B
Can
you
describe
what's
in
lots
33
through
36
and
one
of
the
renderings
that
looks
like
an
apartment
building
but
on
google
maps?
I'm.
A
Sure,
let
me
oh,
I
know
I'm
on
the
wrong
slide.
You're
talking
about
right
over
here,
correct,
correct!
So
really
imagine
there's
a
building
there
that
the
great
the
great
portion
of
it,
I
believe
it's
a
three-story,
two
or
three-story
apartment
building.
I
think
it's
a
three-story.
A
A
There
is
also
some
parking
spaces
off
of
marion
and
then
the
green
space
I
do
believe,
is
a
green
space
and
it
may
have
been
one
of
those
apartments
that
had
a
pool
and
the
pool
was
filled
in
I'm
going
completely
from
memory
on
this,
but
but
yeah
it's
an
apartment,
building.
E
I
think
sorry
this
is
meg.
I
think
noah,
were
you
asking
about
north
of
the
parking
structure
side?
So
I
think,
on
the
lafayette
side,.
A
Oh,
I'm
sorry,
okay,
north
of
the
parking
structure.
So,
on
the
lafayette
side
I
apologize.
I
believe
those
are
two
residential
buildings
houses,
houses,
houses.
I'm
sorry.
A
F
Can
everybody
see
my
screen
and
hear
me?
Well,
this
is
the
powerpoint
screen.
Okay,
awesome,
hello!
Everyone
thanks
for
your
time
this
evening
my
name
is
harsh
parikh,
I'm
with
parikh
stevens,
architects.
Brooke
did
a
great
job
so
I'll.
Try
not
to
be
repetitive
I'll.
Try
to
highlight
some
of
the
things
that
he
may
not
have
pointed
out,
starting
with
just
the
architectural
approach
we
we
feel
this
is
a
very
important
corner.
F
It's
it's
a
gateway
to
inglewood
and
and
and-
and
I
think
that
there
are
certain
aspects
of
this
that
you
know
deserve
greater
care,
and
particularly,
I
would
say
it's
it's
this
corner
and
in
that
corner
the
corner
of
old,
hampton
and
lafayette
in
the
corner
of
old,
hampton
and
and
marion.
And
so
when
we
look
at
this,
you
know
brooke
pointed
out
the
advantages
of
a
wrap
they're
obvious.
F
Obviously,
because
you
know
the
parking
is
very
functional,
you
get
multi-level
parking
directly
adjacent
to
your
dwelling
unit
and
you
hide
it
from
public
view,
but
it
does
result
in
a
very
kind
of
large
structure,
and
so
we're
always
striving
to
to
break
it
up.
First
into
primary.
You
know
separations
and
then
into
secondary
separations
and
create
some
tertiary
articulation.
F
So
you
can
almost
look
at
this
this
corner
here,
as
if
that's
one
building
that's
one
treatment,
and
then
there
is
some
kind
of
an
interruption
and
then
a
different
architectural
treatment
takes
over
a
more
more
articulated
one
on
this
corner,
with
this
mix
of
brick
and
stucco
and
metal,
and
then
maybe
a
more
simple,
more
austere
one
over
there,
and
that
contrast,
you
know,
makes
it
appear
like
it's.
It's
an
assemblage
of
several
buildings
rather
than
one
big
facade,
and
obviously
these
deep
recesses
of
the
balconies.
F
They
help
a
lot
and
they
create
exterior
spaces.
You
know
promote
use
of
outdoors
and
and
just
react
well
to
not
only
our
climate
in
general,
but
this
amazing
south
frontage,
the
views
and
the
solar
access
associated
with
that
this
corner
element
obviously
signifies
that
that's
the
sort
of
the
great
gateway
corner.
So
we're
excited
about
that.
The
inglewood
code
allows
us
to
exceed
height
for
elements
such
as
those
glassy
corner,
which
you
know
at
night
will
will
be
somewhat
of
a
beacon,
a
very
obvious
entry.
F
F
You
know
tree
lawn,
so
just
kind
of
wanted
to
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
other
facades
in
a
minute.
Moving
on
floor
plan
wise
this,
this
red
area-
that's
that's
the
amenity
area
and
that's
gonna
appear
very
commercial,
and
you
can
imagine
this
gym
will
be
animating
the
the
relationship
with
the
street
people
working
out
co-working,
you
know
lounge,
obviously,
post
pandemic.
We
wanna
make
sure
that
that
folks
have
you
know,
places
to
to
work.
You
know
great
access
to
technology,
etc.
F
So
this
it
may
not
be
retail,
but
it'll
appear
commercial,
and
I
think
that
is
important.
You
know
we
talked
about
this.
This
l
out-
and
I
want
to
point
out
something
else
that
brooke
mentioned
all
the
the
various
advantages
of
of
consolidating
these
two
properties
and
and
interrupting
the
alley,
and
clearly
there
are
advantages
for
our
project,
but
there's
a
community
benefit
that
I
think
brooke
probably
overlooked
to
mention,
which
is
how
much
more
pedestrian
friendly.
F
Blind
kind
of
you
know,
corner
with
side
triangle
issues
cars
coming
in
you
know
the
pedestrians
wouldn't
feel
safe
here,
but
in
uninterrupted
building
mass
that
that
truly
engages
with
the
public
realm
creates
a
much
more
pedestrian
friendly
environment.
This
is
being
done.
You
know
in
our
neck
of
the
woods
up
north
in
in
denver.
F
So
just
couple
of
things
that
I
wanted
to
point
out
as
additional
advantages,
brooke
is
exactly
right
that
we
remove
this
building,
just
just
for
clarity's
sake.
So
you
can.
You
can
see
this
facade,
but
this
facade
won't
be
seen
because
of
the
presence
of
this
building.
It's
a
simple
facade
back
there
we're
focusing
all
of
our
attention
on
on
these
sort
of
gateway
elements,
we're
very
excited
about
the
six
story:
deck
west
southwestern
views,
obviously,
but
from
the
lounge
itself.
F
So
imagine
like
a
glassy
lounge
that
then
overlooks
an
open-air
roof
deck
with
landscaping.
So
you
have
best
of
both
worlds.
You
can,
if
weather
turned
you
could
retreat
and
you
get
you
get
365
day
use
of
the
roof
deck
essentially,
because
you
have
this
heated
space
and
then
from
the
north
side.
Amazing
views
of
downtown
so
very
excited
about
that,
and
and
and
the
role
that
that
might
play
as
as
a
beacon
and
an
allusion
to
a
a
healthy
lifestyle.
F
Some
you
know
benefits
about.
Some
of
this
has
been
said
already.
I
won't
belabor
it,
but
one
thing
that
that
wasn't
pointed
out
is
obviously
that
that
this
city
of
englewood
in
perpetuity
will
not
have
to
maintain
that
that
access
easement
we
will
our
clients
will
and
and
and
creates
a
much
more
viable,
a
significant
gateway
project.
F
A
few
things.
I
want
to
point
out
that
we're
doing
above
and
beyond
what
what
inglewood
code
you
know
requires
that
the
englewood
staff
sort
of
it
really
encouraged
us
to
to
show
how
you
know
what
are
the
betterments,
where
we're
offering
so
the
increased
setbacks
were
talked
about.
There
are
transparency
requirements
that
don't
apply
to
us
that
are
written
in
the
englewood
code
that
apply
to
commercial
properties.
For
obvious
reasons
you
want
to
create
eye
contact.
You
want
to
create
sort
of
self-patrolling
spaces.
F
You
want
to
animate
the
the
public
realm,
so
we
are
just
voluntarily
complying
with
your
commercial
code
and
providing
60
transparency
along
the
main
street,
which
is
hampton
and
at
least
25
transparency
along
the
side
streets,
there's
actually
more
than
that.
But
these
are
your
requirements
which,
for
commercial
use,
that
we're
exceeding
our
project
is
going
to
be
designed.
Truly,
you
know
you
know
in
a
multimodal
way.
You
know
obviously
we're
meeting
your
bike
storage
requirements.
F
We
will
have
a
very
nice
bike,
tune-up
ski
tune-up,
kind,
of
a
room
where,
where
you
know
all
the
toys
that
that
are
typical
of
colorado,
lifestyle
folks
can
maintain
on
their
own.
There
will
be
a
business
center
and
work
pods.
All
this
to
say
that
that
that
you
know
it's,
it's
a
healthy
lifestyle,
but
it's
also
cognizant
of
of
of
knowing
that
we'll
probably
have
folks
living
here
who
are
employed
at
very
nearby
business
businesses
and
employment,
centers,
and
therefore
we'll
probably
use
the
car
less
use
public
transportation.
F
This
is
downtown
after
all,
so
we're
thinking
like
that
and
our
design
is
geared
towards
that
health.
Again,
you
know
a
really
well-equipped
gym
again,
giving
it
a
private
place
in
that
corner.
So
we
advertise
outward.
You
know
a
healthy
lifestyle,
the
roof
deck
bringing
people
together.
F
You
know
fostering
a
sense
of
community
and
only
if
you
do
a
highly
amenitized
space
like
that,
will
folks
come
and
then
once
they
come,
they
get
to
know
each
other
and
then
within
the
units
of
course,
most
units
have
balconies
and
patios
brook
talked
about
the
patios
connecting
the
sidewalks,
which
is
important
for
a
host
of
reasons
and
sustainability.
F
Just
a
list
of
all
the
things
we're
doing,
encouraging
the
use
of
electric
and
hybrid
vehicles
by
giving
them
preferred
parking
electric
charging
stations
on
each
level
of
the
garage
again
located
very
close
to
the
entry
again,
you
know
incentivizing
that
we're
going
through
the
excel
energy
design
assistance
program
where
excel
energy
will
give
us
a
list
of
sort
of
menu
items
to
choose
from
where,
where
we
may
pick
more
energy
efficient
approaches,
thereby
saving
energy
for
the
community
at
large
and
just
energy
star
everything
right,
sustainable
landscaping,
native
xeric,
smart,
irrigation
systems,
low
flow
pump,
plumbing
fixtures-
none
of
this
is
required.
F
We
want
to
do
it
for
practical
reasons
as
well
as
you
know,
because
it's
it's
a
correct
design
approach,
it's
a
more
responsible
way
of
doing
it.
This
slide
just
reiterates
what
what
broke
already
went
through
so
I'll
zip
through
this
we've
made
great
progress
with
the
two
dry
utility
holders,
designs
already
underway,
to
relocate
those
utilities,
we're
lucky,
there's
only
one
wet
utility,
and
that
too,
is
a
sanitary
sewer.
That's
a
dead
end,
so
this
is
a
as
far
as
alley.
Vacations
go
and
I've
done
several.
F
This
is
a
relatively
simple
one.
Here's
the
excuse.
B
Me
sorry,
yes,
we
do.
We
do
have
a
question
if
you
could
take
it
from
kate
townley.
Sorry
I
didn't
mean
to
interrupt.
I
was
like
I
thought,
I'd
raise
it
while
I
was
thinking
about
it.
So
thank
you
for
all
of
this
and
going
into
so
much
detail
about
all
the
amenities
and
things
that
you're
offering
on
the
site.
I,
I
was
just
curious,
with
kind
of
being
one
of
the
first
buildings
on
that
block
to
go
vertical.
What
are
some
of
the
things?
B
F
Sure
sure
a
great
question
so
with
lighting,
I
think
the
first
thing
we
think
of
is
is
trying
to
balance
safety
with
sustainability,
and
you
added
one
more
aspect
to
it,
which
is
light
pollution.
We
want
to
be
hundred
percent
dark
sky
compliant,
in
fact,
inglewood
might
already
require
that.
I'm
pretty
sure.
So
you
see
these,
I
switched
the
the
view
to
this
this
view
of
the
garage
you
see
these
opaque
spandrels
they're
made
of
concrete
in
the
garage.
F
We
do
have
the
option
of
doing
that
out
of
cable
rails,
but
we're
opting
not
to
and
and
the
height
will
be,
such
that
at
least
from
all
the
upper
levels.
The
headlight
won't
be
able
to.
You
know
shine
outward
so
you
you
did
mention
that
if
cars
are
heading
westbound
on
that
l
out,
they
will
be
subjecting
some
light.
You
know
to
to
to
that
that
7-eleven,
but,
conversely,
if
they
were
going
straight
down
the
alley,
they
would
be
shining
deuce
out,
so
not
much
to
be
done
about
that.
F
But
I
think
this
parking
garage
will
contain
light
very
well
and
then,
as
far
as
the
other
lighting,
there
are
two
things
I'd
like
to
point
out.
Any
lights
that'll
be
installed
on
the
actually
before
that.
F
I
do
want
to
say
that
that
in
the
parking
garage
we
do
want
to
provide
occupancy
and
daylight
sensors
and
the
idea
would
be
half
of
the
lights
would
be
at
a
certain
level
and
the
other
half
would
be
at
a
different
level
and
they
also
make
light
fixtures
now
that
gradually
ramp
up.
What
you
don't
want
to
do
with
occupancy
sensor
is
that
a
car
comes
and
a
light
goes
on
and
the
car
goes
forward.
Another
light
goes
on
that.
It's,
like
you,
know
the
the
old
michael
jackson,
video.
F
You
know
where
he's
walking
on
the
sidewalk.
We
don't
want
to
do
that,
so
there's
a
sensitive
way
of
doing
it
and
we
will
do
that
we'll
install
occupancy
sensors.
So
we're
not.
You
know
wasting
energy
and
keeping
light
levels
low
and
then
balcony
lights.
Fixtures
will
be
all
dark
sky
compliant
and
to
the
extent
that
we
do
any
uplighting
and
there
are
two
places
where
we
want
to
do
up
lighting
one
right
here
where
that
roof
lounge
is
and
another
right
here.
F
F
Thank
you
sure
so
and
I
think
I'm
pretty
much
very
close
to
the
end.
Only
two
more
slides
this.
This
is
hard
to
see
because
it's
a
it's
a
tiny
little
thing,
but
this
this
shows
the
letter
from
the
the
trash
company
saying
that
they,
like
this
configuration.
F
You
know,
trash
trucks
are
already
used
to
coming
in
making
a
90
on
a
25
foot
wide
allowed
and
a
90
on
to
the
16
foot.
Now
they'll
repeat
that,
and
you
can
see
our
analysis
of
the
longest
truck
available,
which
is
the
30
foot
long
truck
to
be
able
to
make
that
turn
safely
and
yeah.
I
would
like
to
reiterate
that
right
now,
a
portion
of
the
alley
which
is
actually
not
adjacent
to
our
site.
It
actually
goes
north
of
our
site
up
to
that
allowed
about
that
much
I'd
say
about
100
feet.
F
That
is
not
even
paid
paved
right
now,
which
we're
really
required
to
as
part
of
this
exercise
to
pay
off-site
components
and
then
here's
the
utility
plan.
It's
been
vetted
by
all
the
various
englewood
staff
members
and
it
kind
of
shows
that,
right
now
the
sanitary
sewer
goes
up
to
about
here,
we're
cutting
it
short,
stopping
it
there
and
then
the
overhead
electric
and
and
comcast.
It's
basically
going
to
be
fairly
easy
to
turn
around,
and
this
shows
some
of
how
you
know
our
projects.
F
Utilities
will
also
interact
with
all
of
this,
and
and
and
that's
that's
all
from
me-.
B
C
Kate's
question
kind
of
triggered
a
question
for
me
and
I'm
not
sure
if
she
was
referring
at
all
to
will
there
be
any
street
lights
on
hampden
itself
or
is
that
an
excel
issue?
I
don't
believe
there's
really
anything
on
the
north
side
of
hampden
that
whole
block
right
now.
F
That's
a
good
question.
I
think
you
might
be
right
and
you
know
normally
so
here
here
we
are
and
there
isn't
you
know
as
we
go
brooke.
I
think
you
might
need
to
answer
this
because
I
think
when
we
go
through
full
review,
you
might
require
us.
A
I
don't
know
if
tyler
is
still
on
the
call.
Yes,
he
is
do.
Would
you
I
have
not
heard
that
discuss
tyler
thus
far,
do
you
have
any
thoughts
on
that?
In
terms
of
you
know,
public
street
lighting
for
a
project
like
this
and
and
again
this
project
is
we
they
have
not
submitted
for
a
building
permit
and
we
haven't
got
into
some
of
those
details.
But
do
you
have
anything
you
could
add
regarding
that
tyler.
A
I
see
tyler's
name,
but
I'm
not
hearing
anything.
It
looks
like
he's
unmuted.
B
C
And
if
we're
every,
that
is
not
really
related
to
the
right
away,
vacation
it
just
it
poked
my
interest
to
pique
my
interest.
So
if
that's
something
we'll
assess
later,
I'm
not
sure
if
we'll
actually
see
this,
if
this
is
all
done
by
wright,
but
maybe
just
something
to
consider
for
staff
as
they're
as
they're
looking
forward
into
it.
A
I
agree
and
you
know,
there's
potentially
you
know
the
opportunity
and
I
know
there's
some
minimum
standards
for
you
know
just
regular
street
lighting
correct
you
know,
but
in
terms
of
you
know,
maybe
there's
even
an
opportunity
for
some
kind
of
pedestrian
lighting
along
those
street
frontages,
that's
a
little
more
understated
but
yeah.
I
think
that's
something
that
we'll
have
to
discuss.
B
Just
wanted
to
ask
about
the
availability
of
on-street
parking
in
that
section
of
hampden,
because
it
looks
like
with
this
design
it's
going
to
take
out
at
least
remove
at
least
four
curb
cuts,
which
I
think
is
great
and
that
would
potentially
provide
then
more
on
availability
of
on-street
parking.
So
I
just
wanted
to
see:
is
that
available
in
that
portion?
Or
will
it
be.
F
F
If,
if
you
know
our
entry
is
here
and
it
deserves
to
be
on
hampton
and
sure
some
folks
might
just
simply
park
on
lafayette
or
marion
and
walk
on
over,
but
to
the
extent
that
that
people
make
appointments
and
anymore,
they
do
make
appointments
before
they
show
up
prospective
tenants.
We're
gonna
have
a
security
bar
right
there,
so
there'll
be
18
spaces
on
the
ground
floor
that
are
essentially
for
visitors
and
guests,
after
which
you
need
a
fob
to
get
in.
So
there
there
are
those
18
spaces
that
we're
providing
in
our
garage.
A
Kate,
I
can
add
one
one
thing
in
terms
of
the
on-street
parking
as
well
to
what
hearst
said
and
I
believe
public
works
is
you
know
looking
at
this
corridor
from
a
multimodal
perspective
and
there's,
you
know
a
good
chance
that
they'll
be
looking
at
bike
lanes
so
that
that
wouldn't
necessarily
work
with
the
parking
either
so
so
yeah.
I
do
not
think
there
will
be
parking
along
hampden.
B
A
E
Hi,
I
just
had
a
quick
question
that
kate
kind
of
inspired,
if
there's
not
going
to
be
parking
out
front,
what's
the
plan
for
delivery
services
and
all
of
those
apps
that
are
out
there?
I
know
like
right
now
at
my
job.
We
have
to
solve
the
problem
of
trying
to
help
people
get
like
to
the
units
as
fast
as
possible.
I
have
a
lot
of
clients
that
are
apartments,
so
the
whole
thing
we
talk
about
around
the
office
is
like
nobody
likes
cold
tacos.
E
So
I
immediately
was
wondering
like
with
all
these
new
people
that
are
gonna
be
living
here.
Is
there
gonna
be
a
spot
for
temporary
parking
for
those
types
of
people?
That's
really
the
only
question
I
have.
F
You
know
some
some
of
this
is
a
property
management
issue
and
you
know
whether
or
over
a
period
of
time,
folks
like
that,
can
be
invited
into
the
garage
or
not,
but
I'm
guessing
right
now,
with
no
parking
along
hampton.
Those
folks
are
going
to
be
parking
on
lafayette
and.
D
D
F
D
Well,
if
you've
sat
in
caribou
coffee
for
very
long
I've
seen
people
come
out
of
the
cariboo
coffee
parking
lot
and
turn
right
against
traffic
into
you
know
it
waits
it's
people
coming
off
of
285
onto
old
hampton.
They
sometimes
don't
decelerate
fast
enough,
but
that's
aside
from
this,
so.
D
Sorry
are
there
any
other
questions
pertinent
to
this
presentation.
D
So
what
is
the
item
that
we
need
to
do
to
move
forward
on
this
nancy.
B
I'm
going
to
defer
to
brooke
it's
his
he's
managing
this
project
and
he
can
direct
the
commission
as
to
next
steps.
A
Sorry
about
that,
so
what
what?
What
we
would
like
from
the
commission
as
a
recommendation
to
city
council
to
for
two
things
one
would
be
to
if,
if
it
pleases
the
commission
to
recommend
to
city
council
approval
of
the
alley
vacation
request
and
the
other
would
be
approval
of
the
dedication
of
the
transportation
and
utility
easement
from
the
applicant
to
the
city.
G
Yeah,
I
just
have
a
quick
question.
This
is
just
procedurally,
but
we
want
is,
would
it
be
possible
just
asking
for
for
one
of
these
to
be
approved
and
the
other
one
to
not
be
approved,
I
mean,
is
there
can
these
be?
Can
we
recommend
that
they
are
both?
G
A
They
really
are
together.
I
maybe
I
didn't
describe
that
because
one
can't
occur
without
the
right
okay.
So
it
really
is
one
item.
I
know
I
I
broke
it
into
two
things,
but
it's
it's
it's
one.
It's
one
ordinance
put
it
that
way.
That
will
end
up
going
to
council.
D
What
does
that?
Thank
you,
kate,
brooke.
Does
that
motion
sufficiently
cover
what
you
need
from
us
tonight,
yeah.
A
I
think
it's
it's
it's
a
recommendation
that
city
council
approve
technically
you
guys,
don't
have
the
authority
to
approve
or
not
approve
it,
but
it's
a
recommendation
from
planning
zoning
commission
to
city
council
to
approve
the
ali
vacation
and
out
and
transportation
and
utility
easement
dedication
request.
C
B
B
B
If
you
so
wish,
we
can
so
miss
family,
ms
donaldson.
Yes,
mr
hagerty,
ms
brown,
yes.
D
B
D
D
D
Okay,
next
item
on
the
agenda,
I
have
one
piece
of
paper
that
says:
attorney's
choice
and
one
piece
of
paper
that
says
staff's
choice.
You
pick
it.
A
I
I
do
not
have
anything
else
to
add
either.
Do
you
have
anything
nancy.
B
B
I'll
just
mention
two
things:
real,
quick
rocky
mountain
land
use
institute
at
denver
university
has
their
upcoming
conference
and,
of
course,
it's
virtual.
This
year
it's
going
to
be
over
several
days,
there's
a
lot
of
great
sessions,
obviously
on
land
use,
but
also
on
housing
and
housing
for
the
whole
region.
B
So,
if
you're
looking
for
any
professional
development
or
anything
like
that,
a
great
opportunity-
and
then
I
was
also
going
to
mention
for
brooke
or
for
other
folks
too,
as
different
projects
are
coming
on
board
the
cpace
program
recently
added
active
transportation
components
as
an
allowable
benefit.
I
guess,
if
you
will
so
projects
are
looking
for
support
for,
can
be
for
pedestrian
lighting
bike
racks
showers.
Things
like
that.
To
that
that's
an
allowable
thing,
now
great.
D
G
I
just
want
to
apologize
for
being
late,
not
it
was
unpreventable,
but
thank
you
to
nancy
for
reaching
out,
because
I
lost
track
of
time
anyways
other
than
my
ongoing
push
for
the
englewood
chamber
and
the
leadership
academy,
so
her
leadership,
whatever
they're
calling
it.
You
know
what
leadership
whatever
anyways.
G
Thank
you
for
those
of
you
who
attended,
apparently
a
couple
of
you
did
so
thank
you
and
if
you
don't
follow
them
on
social
media,
whether
it's
instagram,
linkedin
or
facebook,
they're
doing
a
really
good
job
of
letting
everybody
know
what's
going
on
in
our
local
businesses.
G
So
a
lot
of
great
events
and
david
and
lindsey
have
been
done
doing
a
fabulous
job
of
getting
that
kind
of
information
out.
So,
if
you're
looking
for,
of
course,
we
want
it
to
be
chamber
members,
but
if
you're
looking
for
local
stuff
to
in
places
to
support,
please
please
make
the
effort.
It
is
much
appreciated
and
if
you
know
somebody
who
might
benefit
from
that,
you
know
we
really
they
have
done.
G
I
can't
say
enough
about
how
much
david
and
lindsey
have
done
to
really
get
and
support
our
businesses
in
cooperation
with
the
city,
so
they
were
instrumental,
especially
david
and
working
with
the
city,
to
get
a
lot
of
the
grants
that
were
offered
so
kudos
to
the
city
and
to
david
for
working
that
so
hard.
So
just
wanted
to
make
my
regular
public
service
announcement.
G
E
Thanks
sorry,
I'm
working
with
two
mouses
on
two
computers
right
now.
I
just
had
a
question
that
I
maybe
should
have
asked
earlier,
but
now
that
we've
made
this
recommendation
to
city
council,
does
city
council
look
at
this
at
their
next
meeting
or
what
does
that
process?
Look
like.
A
It's
it's
not
going
to
be
at
their
very
next
meeting,
because
I
think
we
need
more
time
than
that
to
advertise,
but
it
will
be
there's
not
a
it
will
be
in
the
in
the
near
future.
Put
it
this
way
right
now,
we're
tentatively
have
a
placeholder
march
15th.
A
A
Yeah,
I
think
I
think
it
will
go
to
council
as
a
public
hearing
and
then
a
first
reading
and
second
reading,
so
that
alone
can
take
six
weeks
and
then
there's
a
30-day
referendum
period
before
it
becomes
effective.
A
So
you're
talking
two
and
a
half
months
and
I
don't
think
the
the
architect
is
on
anymore,
but
I
know
they
were
trying
to.
A
I
remember
a
little
while
back
them
talking
about
trying
to
get
drawings
in
for
a
permit,
potentially
in
may
and
and-
and
I
don't
know-
if
that's
still
on
schedule
or
not.
Obviously
they
need
to
know.
A
You
know
things
like
whether
the
alley
will
be
vacated
or
not,
but
but
yeah
they're,
certainly
wanting
to
move
move
ahead.
D
I
do
have
a
comment
I
wanted
to
thank
both
nancy
and
dugan,
who
responded
to
a
question
I
had
about
you
know:
should
us,
should
our
fellow
commissioners
be
talking
to
other
people
and
to
clarify
how
we
should
be
conducting
that
sort
of
conversation,
and
I
found
his
email
very
informative
and
helpful?
I
encourage
you
all
to
take
a
look
at
it.
I
think
I
may
have
violated
a
couple
of
very
small
things
there,
but
I
don't
think
it
was.
I
think
I
was
talking
about
more
things.