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A
All
right,
all
right,
I
this
is
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
meeting
on
tuesday
july
7th
2020,
and
I
am
calling
the
meeting
to
order
nancy.
Would
you
like
to
take
the
role
I
would.
B
A
A
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
nancy
would
you
like
to
take
the
vote.
Please.
G
B
Yeah
and
excuse
me,
mr
hagerty,.
A
Perfect,
the
next
order
of
business
is
public
forum
and
nancy
did
anybody.
I
don't
see
any
public
on.
There
is
no
publisher,
correct
and
anybody
send
anything
in
via
to
the
community
development
department.
They
did
not.
Okay,
all
right
sounds
like
we
can
move
on
to
the
next
order
of
business,
which
is
the
title
16
community
assessment
by
wade,
brookholder.
H
H
Very
good,
so
as
a
reminder
on
monday
evening,
the
27th
we
are
going
to
be
having
a
joint
study
session
with
city
council
and
what
you're
all
going
to
see
and
go
through
this
evening
is
basically
a
dress
rehearsal.
For
that
it's
it's
an
effort
to
sort
of
get
you
thinking
spur
some
ideas
for
you
all,
so
that
you
all
can
can
bring
these
items
up
that
you
wish
to
on
monday
evening,
but
I
want
to
provide
just
the
powerpoint
that
we're
going
to
be
using
so
you're
going
to
see
this
again.
H
We
will
have
a
little
bit
of
an
exercise
for
you
and
that's
going
to
be
the
same
exercise
you
all
will
do
on
monday
night.
So,
if
you
can't
think
of
things
tonight,
this
will
spur
for
those
brain
cells
to
get
thinking
about
it.
Hopefully,
and
and
you'll
be
ready,
monday
night
and
then
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
next
steps.
H
So,
as
I
mentioned
previously,
we
have
hired
logan
simpson
as
our
consultant
to
help
us
through
the
project.
H
Some
of
you
will
remember
them
as
the
consulting
firm
that
helped
us
with
the
englewood
forward
comprehensive
plan,
so
jen,
gardner
and
bruce
begin
are
very
familiar
with
with
englewood.
They
were
primary
contacts
as
well
on
the
comp
plan
and
mark
white
is
our
consulting
attorney.
Who
will
be
listening
to
the
comments
and
community
feedback
to
really
provide
towards
the
end
of
this
project?
The
actual
code
outline
the
annotated
outline
of
the
sections
of
the
unified
development
code
that
we'll
be
looking
to
move
forward
with
rewrite.
H
Now
the
rewrite
is
the
second
phase
of
this
project,
which
hopefully
will
begin
in
january
of
next
year.
Now
that
is
going
to
be
contingent
on
city
council
approving
budget
in
order
to
move
forward
with
that
actual
rewrite.
H
So
this
project,
this
part
of
the
project,
is
the
initial
upfront
community
engagement,
a
lot
of
listening
to
the
community
and
so
forth.
The
the
real
primary
need
for
this
assessment
is
to
ensure
that
englewood's
core
policy
documents,
such
as
the
comprehensive
plan,
the
walk
and
wheel
plan
broadway
corridor
study
that
the
uli
did
a
few
years
back
and
the
land
use
regulations
are
really
step
in
step
with
one
another.
H
They
complement
one
another
and,
of
course,
the
unified
development
code
is
one
of
those
tools
that
we
use
to
implement
those
those
plans
that
are
containing
the
community's
goals
and
visions
and
values
for
the
sustainable
future.
So
that's
the
primary
project
goal.
H
H
This
gets
to
a
lot
of
the
issues
that
we've
been
talking
about
with
regard
to
bulk,
plane
and
lot
coverage
and
and
sort
of
the
the
rapid
changes
that
are
occurring
in
some
of
our
neighborhoods.
So
we
want
to
use
this
project
to
listen
to
the
community
more
and
make
sure,
as
we
go
forward
with
the
rewrite
that
the
regulations
are
in
line
with
what
the
community
wants
for
its
neighborhood
characteristics
parking
regulations.
H
We
have
very
suburban
parking
regulations
at
the
moment.
We
want
to
listen
to
the
community
and
ask
the
community
about
the
parking
in
englewood
and
hopefully
promote
a
more
walkable
healthy
community.
H
We
want
to
make
sure
the
sustainability
goals,
especially
in
the
englewood
forward.
Comprehensive
plan
are
reflected
in
the
unified
development
code
and
then
housing
options
are
diverse
and
accommodative
a
range
of
income.
H
We
want
to
look
towards
codes
that
are
helpful
to
to
spur
some
low
in
lower
income,
housing,
more
moderately,
affordable
housing
and
and
create
that
range.
A
lot
of
people
talk
about
the
missing
middle,
so
we
want
to
target
that
missing
middle
range
of
housing
options
that
is,
is
rapidly
being
evaporating.
H
I'm
going
to
skip
this
slide,
real,
quick,
so
what's
going
to
happen,
first
is
there's
going
to
be
a
thorough
review
of
the
existing
udc
document.
That's
where
we're
starting
here
tonight.
You
know
we're
going
to
get
planning
commission
and
zone
and
city
council's
thoughts.
H
There
has
been
some
initial
discussion
with
the
consultant
and
staff
as
to
what
staff
is
seeing
in
terms
of
things
we
can
change
and
need
clarification
and
and
vetting
in
the
code
we're
going
to
do
a
review
of
recent
development
applications
to
see
what
trends
are
out
there
as
applicants
and
citizens
are
coming
through
and
working
their
way
through.
H
H
So
it's
it's
really
laying
a
solid
groundwork
framework
for
moving
forward
with
the
actual
rewrite
of
the
code.
H
So
our
community
engagement,
as
you
know,
in
the
time
of
of
covet
and
virtual
engagement
techniques,
it's
a
little
more
difficult.
H
H
We
will
have
at
least
one
virtual
town
hall,
kickoff
event,
and
some
of
you
may
be
aware
and
familiar
that
the
city
is
doing
a
a
town
hall,
a
virtual
town
hall
tomorrow
evening
on
community
policing.
So
it's
going
to
be
in
that
format
that
style
to
where
people
can
log
in
ask
questions
either
in
real
time
or
send
in
comments,
questions
in
a
chat
room
and
have
real
dialogue
with
city
staff
and
consultant
and
others.
For
that
matter.
H
We
will
engage
through
social
media
in
in
an
extensive
way.
That's
our
city
website,
but
it's
also
next
door.
It's
also
online
questionnaires
and
quick
polls
to
try
to
get
people
engaged
and
the
real
effort,
and
the
real
goal
here
is
to
reach
all
the
community
areas
that
we
can
it's
going
to
be
difficult
with
some
that
do
not
have
access
to.
H
You
know
a
computer
or
whatnot,
but
we
are
going
are
planning
to
do
some
community
park
related
events
to
where
we'll
have
a
booth
set
up,
so
people
bring
their
kids
or
out
for
their
evening
walk
at
the
parks
we
will.
We
will
have
staged
events
at
the
parks
to
where
we
can
reach
those
community
members
as
well,
and
it's
going
to
be
going
to
be
important
for
everyone
here
tonight
and
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
to
be
champions
of
of
this
community
engagement.
H
So
word
of
mouth
is
going
to
be
critical
here
as
well.
So
if
you
talk
to
your
neighbors
or
friends
and
say,
hey
the
city's
doing
this
online
poll,
could
you
take
a
few
minutes
and
fill
that
out?
H
So
it's
going
to
have
to
be
spread
by
word
of
mouth
somewhat,
we're
going
to
be
virtual
with
town
halls,
ted
talk,
type
meetings
and
then
we're
going
to
do
some
of
the
on-site
type
events,
as
I
mentioned,
and
as
we
go
through
all
of
these
efforts,
the
result
will
be
summaries
presented
to
planning
and
zoning
commission,
as
well
as
city
council,
based
on
every
comment
that
we've
heard
logan
simpson,
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
really
like
them
and
actually
went
under
contract
with
them
is
they
have
an
extensive
tracking
system
where
they
will
track
and
monitor
all
the
comments.
H
We'll
do
an
issue,
identification
and
analysis
leading
up
to
that
final
annotated,
outline
synthesizing.
The
information
we
hear
from
the
community
develop
the
report
of
findings
and
then
the
annotated
outline
of
recommended
changes
to
the
unified
development
code
and
then
the
final
product
will
be
the
final
report
and
an
annotated
outline
which
will
come
before
you
and
the
city
council
as
well,
and
then
we'll
have
that
that
groundwork
finished
the
baseline
set
to
where
we
can,
as
I
mentioned,
hopefully
go
in
in
january
and
start
writing.
H
This
is
a
very
ambitious
timeline.
Essentially
we're
kicking
the
project
off
now
in
july
we
will
have
final
reports
and
presentations
to
a
planning,
commission
and
city
council
by
december,
so
we're
going
to
be
extensively
working
on
this
for
the
next
five
or
so
months.
H
H
So,
as
you
know,
the
code
was
last
looked
at
and
written
holistically
in
2004.,
since
2004
we've
done
a
lot
of
piecemeal
stuff,
now,
most
recently
short-term
rentals,
we
did
accessory
dwelling
units
and
other
tweaks
here
and
there.
So
this
is
our
chance
to
really
bring
our
code
up
to
I'm
going
to
use
the
word
modernize
it
modernize
the
code,
bring
it
up
to.
H
You,
know
more
of
what's
happening
in
today's
market.
Today's
angle
would
and
and
hopefully
have
a
code
that
continues
to
serve
us
well
for
the
next
five
ten
years.
Without
having
to
do
all
of
this
piecemeal
work.
H
I
would
ask
us
tonight
to
if
we
could
take
a
look
at
each
one
of
these
questions.
Again,
it's
up
to
you
all
if
you
want
to
get
really
into
the
details
of
these,
but
I
was
thinking
you
know.
This
is
what's
going
to
come
your
way
monday
night.
So
if
you
want
to
look
at
these
questions
and
ponder
and
think
that
is
absolutely
acceptable
as
well,
so
we
can
have
the
full
discussion
with
council
monday
evening,
but
I'll
just
go
ahead
and
finish
out
the
presentation.
H
A
steering
committee
is
in
the
process
of
being
formed
right
now,
as
well
of
a
maximum
of
eight
persons,
just
to
sort
of
again
be
champions
for
the
project,
to
get
the
word
out
to
help
us
with
the
community
engagement
to
really
be
the
champions
in
the
in
the
arms,
if
you
will
into
the
community
in
addition
to
to
you
all
staff,
and
then
the
public
reach
outreach,
kickoff
will
happen
mid
to
late
august
with
our
first
event.
H
And
that's
that
wraps
up
the
presentation,
so
I
went
back
to
sort
of
our
list
of
questions.
I
did
provide
you
in
the
in
the
staff
memo
for
this
evening,
a
brainstorm
of
staff's
comments
of
some
of
the
of
the
chapters
in
the
unified
development
code
and
where
we
see
some
critical
things
we
need
to
address.
So
that's
the
sort
of
kind
of
thinking
you
all
are
free.
You
know
to
do.
We
hope
you
will
do
that
sort
of
thinking
as
to
what
what
have
we
come
across
over
the
past
few
years?
H
H
That
seems
like
an
area
where
we
really
have
seen
a
lot
of
our
public
hearings
come
through
at
is
with
planned
unit
developments.
I
think
we
can
flush
that
out
more.
We
can
make
changes,
so
I
think
that's
one
application
process
that
we
might
look
at
and
then
you'll
see
our
other
thoughts
and
comments
in
the
staff
memo
for
tonight
on
some
of
the
areas
that
we
were
thinking,
you
know
should
be
a
topic
of
conversation
when
we're
engaging
the
community
in
these
community
outreach
discussions.
H
This
is
our
chance
to
look
holistically
at
the
code.
We
already
know
some
things
are
issues.
We
know
the
development
regulations,
the
bulk
plane.
H
Those
are
things
that
have
already
been
tagged
by
planning
and
zoning
as
well
as
city
council,
but
we
want
to
use
it
to
talk
about,
as
I
mentioned
parking
telecommunication
requirements.
So
it's
a
big
document
and,
as
I
said,
it
may
not
be
as
modern
as
we'd
like
so
so
hearing
from
the
community
and
hearing
from
you
all
what
your
thoughts
are
and
in
areas
of
topics
is
really
what
we're
looking
to
accomplish
at
this
early
kickoff
stage.
A
Thank
you
wade
for
that
presentation
and
thank
you
for
these
comments
from
staff.
I
think
that
they're
they're
somewhat
specific
and
that's
a
good
place
for
us
to
start
and
look
at
things.
So
I
appreciate
it
very
much
sure
colin.
I
think
I
saw
your
hand
up.
C
Yeah,
I
did
have
a
couple
questions.
I'm
happy
to
start
getting
involved
rolling
with
anybody
else.
Were
there
any
other
discussions
that
you
wanted
to
have.
C
C
I
was
curious.
Are
these
your
comments?
Are
these
logan
simpsons
comments
on
kind
of
all
these
different
sections
that
have
been
noted
or
staff
comments?
I
guess.
H
These
are
staff
comments
myself
and
brooke.
Bell
is
online
tonight
as
well,
so
he
had
walked
through
the
code
and
I
also
walked
through
the
code
and
jotted
down
these
comments.
Just
at
quick
glance,
you
know,
obviously
there
might
be
things
we're
missing,
but
these
are
our
staff
time.
C
C
Great,
I
I
do
have
a
maybe
a
comment.
Maybe
to
start
with,
I
know
a
lot
of
cities
around
the
area
are
looking
at
smart
cities
kind
of,
and
I
think
that's
where
you're
going
to
with
the
the
parking
side
of
things
and
the
telecommunications
side
of
things.
I'm
sure
logan
simpson
does
some
of
that
type
of
mentoring
or
guidance
for
those
types
of
things.
If
you
guys
had
any
conversations
about
how
that
might
look
as
part
of
as
part
of
this.
H
We
have
had
a
conversation
about
you
know
the
smart
city
sort
of
general
area.
We
haven't
gotten
into
details
about
any
of
that
they
jennifer
gardner
is
a
sustainability
expert,
she's,
a
landscape
architect.
So
she
has
a
really
strong
background
in.
In
sort
of
you
know
that
arena
also
our
comprehensive
plan
has
a
lot
of
good
policies
and
in
regard
to
walkability
and
and
so
forth,
so
it's
it's
something
that
will
be.
H
Definitely,
I
think,
enhanced
at
the
end
of
this
process
are
those
concepts,
especially
since
we
have
such
good
guiding
documents
already
guiding
us
along
the
way.
A
I
All
right
I
do
this
is
dan
sort
of
tag
on
to
what
colin
was
asking
is
I'm
curious?
Are
there
going
to
be
maybe
surveys
of
adjacent
community
codes
to
even
if
it's
more
from
the
perspective
of
what's
working
in
other
communities
or
what's
sort
of
commonly
going
into
other
adjacent
communities?
I'm
thinking
particularly
denver
and
aurora,
and
things
like
that?
I
know
I've
been
on
panels.
I
Kind
of
post
reviewing
the
new-
you
know,
you
know
udo
for
aurora,
and
I
know
that
they
had
a
lot
of
issues
with
it,
and
so
they
had
a
lot
of
consultants
come
on
and
and
and
talk
with
another
consultant
organization
to
figure
out
what
is
working.
What
isn't
working,
I
think
a
lot
of
the
comments
are
more
on
this,
like
third
item:
what
are
the
application
processes
that
aren't
working?
H
H
So
I
know
those
those
two
communities
are
much
farther
down
the
line
and
they
have
led
the
process,
so
they
are
very
familiar
with
some
of
the
the
issues
that
they've
worked
through
there
and
they
know
that
they're
going
to
have
to
work
through
them
here
I
I
keep
going
back
to
to
bulk
plane
and
those
sorts
of
things,
but
that's
an
issue
metro
wide,
so
they
will
have
that
knowledge.
H
We
also
have
a
good
working
relationship
with
the
community
development
department
down
in
littleton,
so
we
I
plan
to
to
at
least
you
know,
invite
them
to
some
of
these
events,
so
they
can
provide
their
input
as
well
as
to
some
of
the
things
they've
seen
they're,
currently
going
through
a
process
of
of
tuning
up
their
guidelines
for
the
downtown
district.
H
In
littleton
so
they're
looking
at
the
bulk
plane
phenomenon
and
height
and
infill
as
well
down
there,
so
there
there's
already
some
existing
knowledge
as
in
terms
of
surrounding
communities.
H
Yes,
denver
is
a
big
player,
so
they're
familiar
with
what
denver
has
done.
You
know,
brooke
has
done
a
lot
of
study
on
the
city,
county
of
denver
regulations
in
terms
of
slot
homes
and
ball
playing,
and
that
sort
of
thing
so
I
think
it
will
be
well
represented
with
surrounding
community
knowledge
as
well.
A
J
I
just
yeah,
I
think
I
think,
denver,
obviously
they're
the
the
the
big
guy
on
the
block
and
their
zoning
code
is
like
1100
pages,
but
they
some
things
that
we're
interested
in
certainly
slot
homes,
but
they
have
a
lot
of
graphics
and,
of
course,
this
effort
that
we're
undertaking
right
now.
J
The
assessment,
it's
not
writing
the
new
code,
it's
not
creating
new
graphics
per
se,
but
denver
is
a
good
community
to
look
at
in
terms
of
they
do
have
some
of
those
graphics
and
they're
fairly
forward
thinking
as
far
as
some
of
their
codes.
Although
theirs
are
now
10
years
old,
and
you
know
speaking
of
slot
homes,
they
did
kind
of
a
rewrite
of
all
of
that
in
2017
and
18..
J
J
Just
just
in
in
how
they're
formatted
and
how
you
navigate
through
that
code,
whether
you're
a
resident
or
a
developer
or
a
staff
member,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
whatever
the
ultimate
outcome
is
during
the
rewrite,
which
again
is
not
this
phase
but
also
has
a
a
format,
that's
understandable
that
you
know
people
really
understand.
J
Sometimes
right
now,
you
know
we
get
a
lot
of
phone
calls,
because
we
know
things
that
are
buried
somewhere
in
the
code.
That
may
not
be
as
easy
to
find,
but
yeah,
I
think,
looking
at
other
codes
is,
is
good
and
certainly
logan
simpson.
They
they
do
this
all
the
time
and
and
when
we
have
been
piecemealing
some
of
our
code
changes
that
we've
made
over
the
years
we're
often
looking
at
and
comparing
our
code
to
other
codes
so
yeah.
I
think
that
will
definitely
play
into
this.
I
J
Yeah,
that's
that's
the
the
graphics
and
those
kind
of
things
while
there
could
be
some
of
them
as
part
of
this
effort
in
explaining
and
and
jumping
wait,
if
I'm
misspeaking
here,
but
there
may
be
some
graphics
in
trying
to
get
feedback
from
the
community.
J
Sometimes
you
need
some
graphics
that
explain
what
what
you're
trying
to
ask
right
community
absolutely!
But
but
we
won't
be
writing
code
as
part
of
this
effort
or
or
creating
the
graphics
that
will
be
part
of
the
code,
but
that
will
be
part
of
the
rewrite.
That
would
presumably
happen
in.
G
Yeah
I
just
well,
I
was
curious
to
find
out
more
about
the
steering
committee
in
terms
of
you
know
what
you
were.
Thinking
of
you
know
in
terms
of
how
many
people,
what
people,
time
frame
that
kind
of
thing.
H
There
sure
thank
you
there.
There
will
be
six
steering
committee
meetings.
There
will
be
no
more
than
eight
steering
committee
members
we
currently
are
reaching
out
to
community
members
to
serve.
We
have
reached
out
to
several
business
owners.
H
We
we
have
a
development,
a
developer
representative
on
the
board
or
on
the
committee.
We
will
have
two
planning
and
zoning
commission
members,
those
members.
Thank
you.
Diane
and
kate.
Fuller
have
agreed
to
to
sit
on
the
steering
committee
to
to
be
a
liaison
between
even
more
of
a
liaison
between
you
know,
all
the
parties
and
representing
the
planning
and
zoning
committee,
and
then
we
have
several
we've
reached
out
to
several.
H
Neighborhood
liaisons
neighborhood
representatives,
if
you
will
that
we
have
gotten
to
know
through
the
past
development
applications
that
have
come
through
they've,
been
speakers
at
both
planning
and
zoning
and
speakers
at
city
council.
H
So
we
want
to
make
sure
we
have,
you
know
very
good
cross
representation
of
of
the
community,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
on
the
steering
committee
has
some
familiarity
with
the
unified
development
code
as
well.
H
It's
a
very
difficult
document,
as
you
know,
so
we
want
to
have
some
people
on
there
that
are
able
to
at
least
feel
some
comfort
with
looking
at
it
and
using
it
and
talking
about
it.
So
so,
no
more
than
eight
members
six
meetings.
It
is
not
an
official
city
council
appointed
board
or
committee.
It
is.
It
is
just
a
group
of
citizens
that
represent
all
all
facets
of
opinions
and
topics
within
the
community.
G
Well,
will
they
be
reporting
to
planning
and
zoning
or
the
console
at
some
point
or.
H
Speak
obviously,
diane
and
kate
will
will
provide
their
inputs
to
planning
and
zoning,
but
we
are
hoping
that
the
rest
of
the
committee
will
actually
yes
present,
two
planning
and
zoning
committee
and
city
council
just
to
give
their
perspective
on
on
the
project
and
sort
of
hopefully
provide
support
for
moving
forward
on
to
the
next
round
of
of
the
project,
which
is
the
rewrite
they
have
no
official
reporting
duties,
they'll
just
be
working
with
city
staff
and
and
logan
simpson,
just
to
try
to
again
help
us
reach
as
many
corners
of
the
community
as
we
can.
H
And
there'll
be
a
second
steering
committee
once
we
get
to
the
actual
rewriting
part,
the
more
technical
part
of
this
whole
overall
project.
H
G
Yeah
well,
please,
you
know
pass
along
more
information
about
you
know,
other.
You
know
specific
community
members
that
that
you're
looking
for
or
types
and
I'll
be
happy
to.
E
G
A
Judy,
do
you
have
any
comments
or
questions
kate
townley?
F
H
We
will
specific
very
specifically
work
down
this
list,
so
we
will
ask
what's
working
well
in
your
experience
with
the
existing
code,
then
we
will
go
around
the
room
and
essentially
hear
from
everybody
that
has
comments
that
may
lead
to
additional
discussion.
It
may
not,
and
then
all
of
this
will
be
recorded
and
and
then
will
be
put
into
that
spreadsheet
of
comments
that
we
I
mentioned
earlier
and
then
we'll
just
move
to
the
second
one.
What
do
you
feel
is
not
working
well,
etcetera
and
so
forth.
B
So
wait:
could
I
jump
in
just
for
a
bit
of
clarification
for
everyone?
This
will
be
as
wait
said,
a
city
council
meeting,
so
the
mayor
will
be
acting
like
mike,
does
usually
in
our
meetings.
So
if
you
need
help
learning
how
to
raise
and
lower
your
hand,
because
that
will
be
how
the
mayor
knows,
you
have
a
comment
you
have.
B
You
want
to
answer
the
particular
question
on
the
floor.
That
type
of
stuff
reach
out
to
me
tomorrow
and
I
can
set
something
up
and
we
can
practice
raising
and
lowering
hands,
but
just
so
you
know
it
will
be
interactive,
like
wade
said,
but
you'll
have
to
do
the
raise
and
lower
hand.
Be
it's
more
formal
at
city
council.
F
I
guess
one
comment
I
had
is
that
you
know
there's
never
too
many
opportunities
for
education,
especially
with
this
being
a
complicated
issue,
and
is
it
possible
to
start
talking
sooner
rather
than
later,
about
the
relationship
between
the
comp
plan
and
the
code
and
just
some
basic
land
use
type?
You
know
how
that
works
in
colorado
and
how
the
code
is.
You
know
the
legal
part
of
it,
whereas
the
comp
plan's
a
visionary
part,
but
just
to
really
spell
that
out.
F
I
think
that
can
be
helpful.
That
way,
maybe
logan
simpson
isn't
having
to
do
as
much
of
that.
F
F
F
I'm
guessing
we're
going
to
come
up
with
more
a
longer
list,
maybe
than
what
is
in
a
scope
for
logan
simpson.
So
would
there
be
a
prioritization
process
at
some
point
for
what
you
know?
What
are
the
top
things
for
us
to
work
on,
or
do
you
think
we'll
be
able
to
get
through
all
of
them
in
the
rewrite
process?.
H
Well,
that
is
the
goal,
is
to
get
through
all
of
them
in
the
rewrite
you
know,
our
focus
is
really
to
stop
piecemeal
sort
of
process
we've
used.
So
if
we
have
a
really
really
long
list,
I
think
that's
wonderful,
I
think
that's
what
we
need
to.
We
need
to
do
because.
G
J
Okay,
just
to
tag
on
to
your
education
process,
and
one
thing
I
wanted
to
say
so
I
just
don't
forget
it
wade,
I
don't
know
if
you
or
nancy
can
send
out
this
either
this
powerpoint
or
the
list
of
questions
to
the
planning
commission
just
so
they
can
have
it
this
week.
Obviously,
these
five
questions.
B
J
But
the
other
thing-
and
maybe
this
is
premature
but
just
kind
of
a
I
guess-
a
homework
assignment
for
this
week
is
two.
You
know
I
think
everyone
gets
a
a
title
16.
You
know
unified
development
code
when
they
join
the
commission,
and
you
know
we
all
pull
it
out
once
in
a
while
when
we're
looking
at
a
specific
code
amendment
or
something,
but
to
just
kind
of
pull
that
out
and
familiarize
yourself
with
the
different
chapters
just
kind
of
where
they're
at
and
what
they're
titled.
J
There's.
Probably
some
that
you
know
much
of
the
commission
isn't
even
aware
of,
like
you
know,
non-conformities
and
how
those
are
are
handled,
but
but
taking
it
just
a
step
further
to
just
pretend,
like
you
were
a
resident
who
wanted
to
build
a
house
or
start
a
business
and
open
up
the
code
and
and
pretend
like
he
wanted
to
do
that,
and
you
know
what
what
would
be
allowed
and
what
would
not
be
allowed
and
what
would
it?
J
How
would
I
find
the
parameters
under
which
I
could
build
a
house
and
that
it'd
just
be
a
a
good
exercise
to
kind
of
dive
in
lightly
to
the
code
and
kind
of
kind
of
see
what
it
looks
like
how
confusing
or
not
confusing
it
is.
K
I
I
just
it
seems
like
there's
a
lot
of
communications
and
interfacing
with
people
and
with
the
cova
going
on.
That's
gonna
have
to
be
worked
out.
How
we
do
that,
I'm
not
sure
how
that's
what
what's
gonna
be
needed
there
and
how
we're
gonna
do
that.
H
H
You
know
providing
written
options
for
those
that
can't
have
access
to
computers
and
and
so
forth.
So
you
know
these
virtual
meetings
and
focus
groups
are
going
to
be
happening
in
this
type
of
format.
So
that's
where
you
know
again.
I
go
back
to
that
spreadsheet
for
tracking
comment.
H
That's
why
we
really
liked
logan
simpson
is
because
they
have
a
very
tried
and
tested
formula
that
they
use
to
track
comments
and
track
and
keep
demographic
information
to.
What's
what's
been
done,
you
know
we
may
have
to
provide
written
forms
to
the
mallee
center,
for
example.
H
So
it
is
definitely
a
recognized
concern,
but
we
feel
that
with
logan
simpson
and
their
experience
and
the
the
methods
and
opportunities
for
virtual
me,
we
feel
we
can
be
successful
moving
forward
with
this
type
of
project
this
time.
H
I
hope
that
answers
your
question.
I
don't
know
if
it
did
or
not,
but
we
will
definitely.
K
It's
going
to
have
to
be
done.
You
know
a
step
at
a
time,
and
another
thing
I
was
wondering
was
people
that
come
in
for
building
code
permits.
K
D
A
E
I
My
little
spacebar
trick
wasn't
working.
I
I
just
wanted
to
pick
you
back
on
carl's
question:
do
you
do
you
find
wade
and
brooke?
That's
the
I'm
sure
there
are
definitely
access
issues
for
some
folks
who
don't
have
access
to
a
computer,
but
do
you
find
that
there
are
perhaps
more
attendees
in
some
scenarios
for
city
meetings
because
it
actually
is
available
and
you
don't
have
to
go
there
and
you
can,
you
know,
go
do
it
in
between
dinner.
I'm
just
curious.
This
is.
H
We
have
had
several
well
we've
had
one
neighborhood
meeting
for
an
upcoming
planned
unit
development
application
planned
unit
developments
are
required
to
have
neighborhood
meetings
prior
to
the
public
hearing,
so
we
had
had
one
of
those
at
the
beginning
of
june
and
there
were
almost
20
people
attending
that
virtual
meeting,
and
I
can
tell
you
that
in
the
past,
when
we
met
in
person,
we
were
lucky
to
to
get
five.
H
B
And
if
I
could
also
interject,
I
watched
the
city
council
meetings
and
the
public
comment
section
appears
to
be
increasing
as
well.
There
were
over
40
people
signed
up
to
speak
last
night,
so
wow
it
does.
It
does
appear
to
as
wade
said
in
some
cases,
cause
people
to
participate
more
because,
as
diane
said,
they
can
do
it
from
the
luxury
of
their
home
or
office
or
wherever.
H
Andy
and
again
antidotally,
we
have
been
given
the
green
light
to
hold
virtual
public
hearings
now,
so
things
like
we
do
have
a
board
of
adjustment
and
appeals
variants
case
coming
up
in
august,
whereas
before
the
decision
was
you
could
not
hold
public
hearings
virtually
due
to
due
process
concerns,
but
the
city
has
come
up
with
a
a
way
to
to
do
that.
So
I
think
we're
starting
to
you,
know
we're
learning
and
we're
learning
what
we
can
and
can't
do
in
this
format.
H
So
I
think
we're
getting
we're
getting
there
with
things
we're
getting
better.
D
A
I
just
had
a
I.
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
fascinating
process
to
watch
and
observe
and
participate
in
just
a
suggestion.
I
did
get
the
call
from
mayor
olsen
today
about
the
town
hall
meeting,
which
I
think
that
that
might
be
a
good
another
thing
that
you
can
do.
We
obviously
have
a
lot
of
our
citizens
phone
numbers
and
then
also
anybody
who
is
going
to
the
rec
center
or
mali
center.
A
Now
that
they're
open
for
classes
and
things
like
that,
you
know
that's
another
venue
where,
if
it's
possible
to
maybe
even
walk
around
when
they're
you
know,
I
haven't
been
to
the
rec
center,
so
I'm
not
really
sure
how
how
many
classes
and
things
they
have,
because
there's
of
course
limits
on
how
many
people
in
a
building,
but
it's
possible
to
just
walk
into
these
classes
and
just
say
hey.
This
is
important.
Pay
attention
and
hand
out
a
flyer
or
something
like
that.
G
Yeah
I
just
I
was
just
thinking
as
far
as
you
know,
increased
public
participation,
I'm
curious.
Are
our
people
mainly
act
accessing
zoom,
you
know
through
the
internet
or
are
they
calling
in
or
is
it
combination
and
what's
what's
the
you
know,
what's
the
kind
of
the
ratio
of
that.
H
Yeah,
I
think
our
our
biggest
percentage
is
the
citizens
that
just
access
through
the
internet-
you
know
we
have.
We
have
had
a
handful
of
of
people
calling
in
you
know
either
beforehand
to
just
submit
comments
in
written
format
or
you
know
not
being
on
the
screen
but
being
on
their
cell
phone
or
something
like
that.
So
we
have
seen
that
happen
as
well,
but
but
by
far
the
percentage
has
been
highest
with
those
that
are
on
camera
like
like.
We
are
right
now
through
the
internet.
G
Okay,
yeah,
I
was
just
kind
of
curious
because
I
was
thinking
about
you
know
it's
great
that
there's
increased
involvement,
but
I
was
thinking
about
the
people
that
you
know
that
internet
access
is
is
is
hard
which
is
even
more
challenging
right
now,
because
they
can't
go
to
the
library
or
you
know,
or
public
places
that
they
could
before
to
use
those
facilities.
G
And
so
I
was
just
thinking
that
it
would
be
good
to
encourage
people
to
that.
They
had
the
option
to
just
come
in
by
phone
or
maybe
there
would
be
opportunities
to
to
reach
out
and
help
them
use
technology,
because
you
know
people
can
do
it
over
their
cell
phone
and
that's
as
kind
of
thing.
That's
easy
easy
to
make
accessible
to
people
if
and
help
them
with.
If
that's
an
issue
right.
J
Yeah
this
is
brooke.
I
was
had
the
pleasure
of
of
participating
in
a
traffic
court
with
the
city
of
denver
a
few
weeks
ago.
J
Do
it
wasn't
me
it
was
my
son,
but
but
this
was
like
you
know
two
and
a
half
hours,
liter
literally
people
calling
in
or
joining
with
their
computer.
In
some
cases
people
had
interpreters,
but
you
know
it
seemed
to
me
like
it
was
about
half
and
half
you
know.
Half
the
people
were
calling
in
on
their
phones,
half
were
on
their
computers
and
business
was
being
conducted
and
it
was
a
courtroom
virtually.
A
K
One
thing
is:
is
there
a
use
for
using
the
mail
it's
like
either
sending
out
questionnaires
to
you?
Can
you
could
do
it
by
zone.
K
H
I
know
that
the
mail
has
been
used
in
a
few
instances
in
the
past.
I
you
know
nancy
probably
knows
what
that
was
for,
but
I
know
that
gets
it
very
pricey
very
fast
when
you're
trying
to
mail
things
to
35
000
residents.
H
So
you
know
I
know
it's
been
done
in
the
past.
I
don't
know
you
know
that
how
much
we'll
use
it
to
this
process
or
this
project,
but
it
you
know
it
it
on
individual
bases
or
smaller
group
situations.
I
think
yes.
D
B
The
average
cost
to
every
household
or
address
in
inglewood
the
last
time
we
did
it.
It
was
just
a
little
over
three
thousand
dollars.
C
Actually,
one
more
follow-up
question
kind
of
triggered
by
that
last
part
of
the
conversation.
How
many
applications
do
you
guys
usually
get?
I
don't
know
either
year
or
month,
or
I
don't
know
how
you
guys
would
normally
track
that
and
then
I
guess,
is
there
a
way
for
as
you're
getting
these
applications
in
to
have
a
form
to
have
them
fill
out
to
ask
they're
inputting
and
what
what
doesn't.
H
H
You
know
if
you're
talking,
puds
or
rezonings,
maybe
two
one
or
two
a
year
variance
applications.
We
might
see
ten
to
a
dozen,
but
when
you
you
get
into
the
building
permits
and
like
fence
permits,
you
know
other
kind
of
special
use
permits.
You
know
you
you
get
into
the.
J
Oh
certainly,
certainly
building
permits
you
know,
there's
building
permits
accessory
permits,
grading
permits,
but
yeah
those
are
building
permits
would
be
in
the
thousands,
including
you
know,
electrical
plumbing.
What
have
you
but
the
more
zoning
based
applications?
J
You
know
you
might
get
40
or
45
subdivisions
a
year.
You
might
get
right
a
similar
amount
of
development
review
team
applications,
so
they're,
certainly
less
for
for
for
zoning
applications,
because
a
lot
of
projects
are
used
by
wright
where
you
can
just
go
directly
to
a
building
permit.
J
But
you
know,
I
think
the
idea
of
engaging
people
when
they're
applying
for
those
kind
of
things
is
is
a
good
idea,
because
that's
our
that's
the
part
of
some
of
the
people
we're
trying
to
hear
from
that,
may
not
even
live
in
englewood
and
are
working
through
our
code
and,
like
things
don't
like
things,
so
I
think
that's
a
great
idea
whether
it's
for
zoning
applications
or
building
permit
applications
or
both.
C
You
know
initially
my
thought
was:
we
shouldn't
try
to
solicit
from
out
of
the
city,
because
this
should
be
about
ours.
But
after
hearing
what
you're
saying
there
are
probably
a
lot
of
people
that
are
are
requesting,
you
know
these
variances
and
things
like
that
that
maybe
they're
developing
here,
obviously-
but
maybe
don't
live
here
so.
J
J
So
I
I
think,
we'll
get
a
little
bit
of
both
and
that
that
could
be
a
helpful
process.
J
You
know,
I
think
the
other
thing
about
mailing
you
know
mailing
can
be
great,
but
even
when
we
make
actual
changes
to
the
code
when
we
do
the
rewrite
you
know.
Typically,
it's
published
in
the
paper
it's
on
the
website,
but
there's
not
necessarily
a
citywide
mailing.
J
You
know
to
do
some
minor
revision
of
the
code.
J
J
But
when
we
do
the
rewrite
it
will
be.
You
know
a
formal
process
through
the
plan
and
zoning
commission
through
city
council,
so
just
because
there's
a
trend
towards
some
type
of
change
in
a
code.
Maybe
some
sort
of
trend
that
we're
hearing
from
the
community
doesn't
mean
that
it's
gospel.
You
know
it
will
still
have
to
go
through
a
formal
rewrite
and
get
additionally
vetted
and
commented
on
and.
A
There's
always
having
articles
in
the
english
citizen.
E
H
E
H
Sorry,
yeah
that
I
don't
really.
I
don't
have
anything
else.
I
just
want
to
remind
everybody
that
you
all
will
receive
a
separate
email
invite
to
the
meeting
monday
night.
So
just
like
you
do,
you
did
for
tonight.
It'll
be
a
separate
invite
from
the
city
to
join
that
meeting
so
and
it
does
start
at
6
00
p.m
at
7..
H
So
I
don't
know
where
we
are
on
the
agenda.
E
H
But
it
does
start
at
6.
other
than
that.
I
don't
have
anything
specific,
oh
because
we
are
meeting
on
monday
night,
the
27th,
our
august
4th
regular
meeting
will
be
canceled.
A
A
Duke
and
it
looks
like
we're
up
you're
the
next
one
up.
A
Okay,
commissioner's
choice,
judy.
E
C
C
E
C
In
surveys
we
had
earlier
this
year,
I
feel
the
current
name
could
really
be
a
distraction
from
what
the
end
goal
of
this
process
is,
and
you
know
I
know
we're
living
in
an
environment
where
social
justice
is
at
the
forefront
of
our
thoughts
and
everyone's
thoughts,
and
it's
a
significant
emphasis
on
black
life
life's
matter
movement.
C
By
any
stretch
I
mean
it
goes
back
to
2013,
but
it's
obviously
had
a
lot
of
momentum
since
since
may
of
this
year,
I'm
not
trying
to
take
any
sort
of
political
stance
or
or
anything
like
that,
but
when
I
first
opened
the
documents,
which
is
the
inglewood
downtown
plan,
downtown
matters,
it
immediately
went
to
to
that
to
the
movement,
and
you
know
we've
got
an
incredible
framework
to
for
this
downtown
redevelopment
and
I
don't
want
to
become
a
distraction
over
over
a
controversy
over
name
that
was
developed
before
we
got
into
this
current
political
environment.
C
I
believe
we
can
take,
keep
the
name
downtown
or
englewood
downtown
plan
or
go
with
some
other
sort
of
a
name
like
inglewood,
live
or
englewood
alive
or
any
other
sort
of
option.
I
just
wanted
the
the
document
to
be
a
path
forward
and
not
a
distraction
that
that
could
be
considered
insensitive
to
some
of
the
current
things
that
are
going
on
right
now.
A
That's
a
very
good
point
who,
who
created
the
name
not
that
you
need
to
pin
you
know
on
any
particular
particular
person,
but
it
was.
How
did
that
whole
group
get
the
name
downtown
matters?
H
Go
ahead,
I
was
just
going
to
say:
I
believe
that
was
the
group
of
consultants
that
were
put
together
to
draft
that
plan.
Is
that
right?
I
could
be
wrong,
though
nancy,
is
that
your
understanding.
B
That's
correct-
and
I
I
don't
know
if
dugan
wants
to
chime
in
on
this,
but
we
have
to
be
very
careful
at
this
point
because
we
can't
add
an
agenda
item
so
we're.
B
Off
the
agenda,
but
I
would
say
that
yes,
wait
is
correct.
The
consultants
along
with
our
chief
redevelopment
officer
dan
peremba,
worked
on
that
and
I
believe
there
is
a
way
to
help
me
out.
There
is
a
marketing,
slash
pr
firm,
and
so
it
was
all
part
of
that
colin.
I
would
I
can
send
you
dan's
email,
okay
and
I'm
sure
he
would
love
to
hear
what
you
have
to
say.
Perhaps
you
could
set
the
time
to
meet
with
them.
Does
that.
C
B
B
At
his
future,
excuse
me,
I
can't
speak
if
you
would
like
to
have
it
brought
up
at
a
future
planning
and
zoning
commission
meeting.
Please
reach
out
to
wade
and
chair
freemeyer
and
if
there's
consensus
from
the
council
that
can
or
excuse
me
yeah
from
the
commission
that
certainly
can
be
added.
But
to
start
out
with,
let
me
send
you
dan
paramba's
contact
information
and
the
two
of
you
connect,
and
I
know
dan
would
more
than
be
happy
to
meet
with
you.
C
F
A
G
Darryl,
I
would
just
say
that
I
think
you
know
I
I'm
very
encouraged
by
that
we're
gonna
be
getting
finally
getting
together
with
console
and
you
know
some
changes
that
are
you
know,
potential
changes
going
forward,
but
that's
it
for
me.