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B
Kevin
I'm
checking
you
are
with
the
design
team
correct
for
winslow.
B
B
D
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G
G
B
B
Okay,
so
michelle
just
you
know,
there's
I'm
still
bringing
people
in
to
the
meeting
like
commissioners
and.
B
B
B
B
J
That's
fine,
graham
cutting
just
drop.
J
B
B
B
B
Okay,
so
do
you
wish
to
speak
for
the
public
hearing,
or
do
you
just
wish
to
listen
and
observe.
B
B
B
L
B
Miss
kirkman's
here
I
know
what
she's
miss
trujillo.
I
B
B
B
B
B
Okay,
chair,
I
think
we
are
good
to
start,
because
I
couldn't
have
those
other
two
so
and
just
so
michelle.
So
you
know
we
also
have
someone
at
the
civic
center
in
case
someone
shows
up
in
person.
So
at
that
time
we'll
start
there
to
see.
If
there's
anyone
there
does
that
make
sense,
I
think
it
makes
sense.
Yes,
okay,
so
if
I
could,
please
have
all
the
applicant
team
and
staff
and
commissioners
all
on
video
and
everyone
else.
Please
have
their
video
off
and
there
and
be
muted,
please
until
we
call
on
you.
B
I
Okay,
are
we
set?
We
are
all
right.
Thank
you
all
for
attending
the
tuesday
december
8th
2020
planning
and
zoning
commission
meeting.
This
is
the
call
to
order
and
nancy.
Would
you
please
call
the
roll?
I.
B
B
Thank
you,
mr
hagerty.
E
B
Acting
chair
austin
here,
ms
lapelski
here,
judy
brown
is
absent
and
kate
fuller
is
absent.
Mr
atkins
here
and
mr
adams.
H
B
I
Do
have
a
quorum.
Thank
you.
I
believe
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
approval
of
the
draft
november
17th
2020
minutes
nancy.
Will
you
please
call
for
the
vote.
G
I'll
I'll
move
to
approve
the
minutes.
M
H
I
I
All
right,
thank
you
all
for
attending,
especially
those
of
you
out
in
the
community.
We
really
appreciate
it.
I
would
like
to
call
the
I
gotta
go
over
here.
This
is
the
I'm
now
opening
the
public
hearing
for
the
winslow
crane
site
development
plan,
z,
o
n
2020-001
wh,
planned
unit
development,
pud
site
development
plan.
M
A
A
A
G
M
H
M
F
D
B
D
Okay,
eric
sampson
good
evening,
everybody,
so
we
are
here
to
for
the
public
hearing
for
3002
south
huron
street,
the
winslow
crane
plant
unit
development,
a
brief
overview,
as
you
can
kind
of
see
on
the
on
the
map
above
this
would
be
pud
number
nine
on
the
map
and
some
of
the
other
surrounding
zonings
are
industrial.
A
pud
10
is
an
apartment,
complex
the
ironworks
apartment,
complex
and
then
there's
some
other
r2b
zone
districts
around
there.
D
On
the
right
side.
You
can
kind
of
see
if,
if
the
images
aren't
in
your
way,
you
can
kind
of
see
an
overview
of
the
the
property.
It's
a
total
of
6.12
acres,
and
currently
there
are
a
total
of
nine
separate
parcels
all
in
this
project
that
are
going
to
be
combined
via
minor
subdivision.
So
in
the
end
of
it,
it's
all
going
to
be
one
big
parcel.
D
So
project
overview
you
know,
developers
proposing
203
multi-family
units.
These
will
include
a
mix
of
studio,
one
bedroom
and
two
bedroom
units
for
a
total
of
one
176
529
square
feet
of
residential
floor
area,
and
that's
going
to
be
a
total
of
12
buildings.
D
Eight
of
these
will
be
three
three-story
walk-ups
apartments
with
tuck
under
garages,
three
will
be
three-story
townhomes
and
there
will
be
one
centrally
located
amenity
building,
which
will
include
the
leasing
office
meeting
rooms
gathering
space,
and
there
will
also
be
other
amenities,
including
a
pool
public
gathering
spaces
and
also
access
to
the
inglewood,
the
future
englewood
rail
trail.
D
This
proposal
also
there's
a
request
to
vacate
right-of-way
at
three
different
locations
on
site,
and
that
would
be
a
part
of
our
recommendation,
but
we'll
talk
about
that
in
just
a
little
bit.
D
So
just
to
give
you
all
a
brief
overdue
overview
of
the
pud
process
plan
unit
development
is
a
rezoning
process
which
establishes
a
specific
zoning
and
site-specific
criteria
to
meet
the
needs
of
a
specific
development
proposal
which
may
not
be
accommodated
by
a
single
zone
district,
and
so
this
has
my
potential
to
have
multiple
multiple
uses
across
potentially
different
zones.
D
Also,
the
old
inglewood
pud
process
could
be
done
in
two
phases
could
be
done
in
a
district
plan
and
then
a
site
development
plan
which
we're
going
through
now.
This
is
part
of
the
old
two-step
process,
where
the
district
plan
was
approved
by
city
council
back
in
march
2013
and
the
second
part
of
the
pd
process.
The
site
development
plan
is
going
through
the
public
hearings
now
and
we'll
get
final
decision
by
city
council.
D
This
property
also
has
the
stipu.
Excuse
me
the
stipulation
that,
once
there
is
commercial
or
residential
buildings
that
have
been
built
and
have
been
issued,
certificates
of
occupancy,
the
industrial
use
no
longer
becomes.
D
Zoning
activities
would
would
cease
once
there
is
residence
residential
uses
on
site.
D
So
in
the
original
district
plan
that
was
approved
by
council,
a
couple
things
wanted
to
point
out:
the
max
height
allowed
was
75
feet
and
the
height
proposed
by
this
development
is
40
feet.
D
D
Other
features
of
this
development
include
parking
in
the
original
site
development
plan.
It
said
it
would
go
by
the
unified
development
code
to
determine
what
parking
would
be
required
and
the
udc
would
require
345
spaces.
D
I
should
point
out
that
the
site,
the
district
plan
also
said
that
a
reduction
in
parking
could
be
proposed
for
residential
uses,
and
so
the
proposed
is
311
spaces,
which
is
about
a
10
reduction,
and
this
was
reviewed
by
the
inglewood
traffic
engineer
and
was
found
that
the
reduced
parking
is
appropriate,
considering
the
proposed
trail
easement
and
the
distance
from
the
light
rail
station
bike
parking
also
referred
to
the
udc
for
the
number
of
spaces.
Udc
would
require
101.5
spaces,
so
the
applicant
is
in
including
102
bike
bicycle
park,
space.
D
For
the
traffic
generation
analysis
that
was,
that
was
done,
the
development
is
expected
to
generate
1
486
weekday
trips
93
of
those
in
the
am
114
of
those.
In
the
evening
again,
the
traffic
engineer
concluded
that
the
proposed
impact
to
the
city's
transportation
network
would
require
minimal
mitigation
from
the
developer.
D
So
the
other
part
of
this
is
the
right-of-way
vacation
requests
which
are
kind
of
another
key
part
to
this
project
and
the
first
one
is
a
portion
of
south
huron
street,
which
you
can
see
in
exhibit
a
if
you're
not
covered
up
by
faces.
Hopefully.
D
D
These
proposed
easements
are
entirely
on
the
applicant's
property,
so
the
applicant
had
requested
a
waiver
from
public
works
for
the
reconstruction
of
a
sidewalk
along
galipago
street,
and
these
galipago
street
addresses
are
not
inc,
are
not
a
part
of
the
overall
development,
but
we
were
interested
in
seeing
kind
of
a
uniform
connectivity
between
the
properties
to
the
north
and
the
properties
to
the
south
of
the
project.
D
Two
is
the
dedication
of
a
ten
foot
public
trail
easement
for
the
future
construction
of
the
englewood
rail
trail
and
approved
by
city
council.
The
more
more
sorry
memorandum
of
understanding
for
future
construction
considerations.
I
If
I
could
just
briefly
break
in
here,
I
neglected
to
inform
all
of
us
in
the
public
about
the
structure
of
the
public
hearing
procedure.
So
if
you
don't
mind,
if
I
could
just
take
a
moment
to
do
that
now,
we
have
obviously
opened
the
public
hearing
and
had
a
staff
presentation.
I
Then
I'm
assuming
we're
going
to
have
an
applicant
presentation
because
there's
lots
of
people
on
the
screen
here
and
then
we'll
have
a
public
testimony
and
that's
the
time
when
the
public
can
express
their
their
concerns
and
things
that
they
want
to.
Have
us
hear
about
this
proposal.
There
will
be
no
dialogue
with
the
commission.
All
we
do
is
basically
listen
to
you
at
that
point
and
then
we'll
have
a
final
statement
and
then,
after
that,
we'll
close
the
public
hearing.
So
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
procedure.
B
You
are
not.
I
would
just
add
that
for
public
testimony,
it's
a
three-minute
time
limit
so
I'll
time
you
and
let
you
know,
but
you've
covered
it
all
very
well.
Michelle.
I
O
No
problem,
I
just
had
a
couple
questions
and
then,
if
you
believe
the
applicant's
going
to
get
to
these,
then
let
me
know
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
the
total
number
of
units
is
203.
That's
the
includes
the
multi-family
all
the
different
building
types.
The
total
is
203
units,
yes
and
then
for
the
height
the
proposed.
So
this
gets
confusing
with
the
two-step
pud
process,
so
the
existing
pud
or
what
we
have
in
place
has
a
75-foot
height
limit.
O
N
O
Correct
and
then
we'll
is
there
any
information
on
what
the
open
space
dedication
or
fee
in
lieu
would
be
for
the
new
residential,
that's
being
added
to
the
site.
F
So
there's
a
per
per
unit,
there's
a
385
dollar
fee
for
the
new
new
developments
for
multi-family
that
gets
paid
during
the
building
permit
phase,
that's
wrapped
into
the
building
permit
process,
but
the
other
open
space
includes
you
know
just
areas
of
landscaping
and
gathering
space
around
the
site
at
various
locations,
and
when
we
look
at
the
landscape
plan,
the
the
overall
total
exceeds
the
actual
requirement
of
what
the
original
pud
district
plan
required.
O
Okay
and
then
for
the
right
of
way,
can
you
just
clarify
to
so?
If
we
move
forward
with
the
recommendations
later
on,
the
right
of
way
would
be
a
condition
of
the
pud,
as
well
as
a
separate
motion
on
each
right
away.
Sorry,
I'm
losing
my
words.
F
The
dedication
of
right
of
way
is
just
a
recommendation
from
planning
and
zoning
commission
that
essentially
has
to
happen
for
this
site
development
plan
to
to
move
forward
for
vacation
a
right-of-way.
The
city
council
actually
holds
separate
public
hearings
on
each
one
of
the
vacation.
Right-Of-Way
requests,
so
what
city
council
is
looking
for
from
this
board
is
a
recommendation
that
they
that
you
all
agree
that
these
these
areas
should
be
vacated
and
then
they
will
take
that
into
consideration
during
their
public
hearings.
F
Planning
and
zoning
commission
is
not
required
to
have
a
its
own
public
hearing
for
vacation
of
right-of-ways.
But
since
we
are
in
this
in
this
public
hearing
forum,
it
just
made
sense
to
wrap
all
of
those
into
this
process.
Tonight
it
does
get
confusing.
Let
me
know
if
that
didn't
answer
your
question,
commissioner.
Townley.
E
N
F
Yes,
thank
you
for
the
question.
The
the
the
portion
of
the
galapagos
sidewalk
is
a
requirement
that
the
city
is
imposing
simply
because
you
know,
one
of
the
reasons
is.
We
need
a
direct
connection
from
dartmouth
to
bates
continuously
along
galipago.
F
There
are
five
or
six
outlying
properties
separately
owned
that
are
also
on
that
property
and
through
the
years
there
have
been
some
improvements
made
within
the
city
right
away,
such
as
those
fences
and
landscaping
that
has
occurred,
and
in
order
for
the
continuous
sidewalk
to
go
to
be
constructed,
we
are
looking
at
contacting
those
property
owners
to
let
them
know
that
this
project
is
coming
and
it
will
be
an
individual
negotiation.
We
haven't
figured
out.
F
You
know
whether
or
not
we
need
to
require
those
improvements,
be
reinstalled
that
will
get
into
discussions
when
we
get
into
that
phase
of
that
of
this
part
of
the
project.
N
G
Yeah,
I
wanna
just
make
sure
that
we're
that
I'm
not
going
offline
or
anything
like
that,
so
is
staff
asking
us
just
for
approval
of
those
right-of-way
requests.
Or
are
we
looking
at
the
entire
plan,
that's
being
presented
as
it's
being
presented
and
any
of
the
information
in
there
as
it's
being
presented
just
to
make
sure
I'm
asking
the
correct
questions.
G
Okay,
I
I
do
have
quite
a
few
questions,
one
of
them
being
what
defines
open
space.
When
you
look
at
page
97
of
the
package,
there
seems
to
be
a
lot
of
parking
and
does
the
the
pool
include.
That
is
open
space.
I
guess
if
it
doesn't
feel
like
looking
at
that
that's
37
percent,
but
again
if
we
want
to
go
into
these
items
after
the
the
presentation,
I'm
great
with
that,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
timing
this
right.
So
thank
you
for
the
clarification.
G
What
we're
looking
at,
though,.
F
Yeah-
and
I
think
we
can
ask
the
applicants
during
the
presentation
to
explain
further,
I
I
know
they'll
have
some
graphics
that
we
didn't
have
in
our
presentation.
That'll
help
show
some
visuals
okay.
F
There's
three:
we
have
a
portion
of
cornell,
which
is
west
of
galipago.
We
have
south
furon
within
the
site
and
then
there's
a
public
alleyway
dedicated
alleyway
internal
to
the
site
as
well.
H
Okay,
the
the
alleyway
and
the
cornell
are
joined.
M
F
H
Any
square
footage
of
all
of
those
are
about
twenty
four
thousand
square
feet
across
my
way
that
we're
giving
to
them.
F
That
I'm
I'd
have
to
verify
that
I'd
have
to
have
to
double
check
that.
But
you
know
in
terms
of
exact
square
footages,.
H
And
my
understanding
is,
they
will
not
do
the
rail
to
trail
sidewalk
concrete
that
will
have
to.
D
H
F
Sorry,
this
project
is
dedicating
the
rail
trail
easement
and
this
at
a
future
date.
The
city
will
go
in
and
actually
install
the
the
actual
surface,
but
that
easement
will
be
dedicated
for
that
purpose.
At
this
time,
okay,.
H
The
into
some
underground
detention
holding
ponds
is
there
a
flood
problem
in
that
area?
I
wouldn't
think
so,
but
why
is
it?
Why
are
those
being
used?
I
guess.
F
Well,
with
the
improvement
of
the
site
they're
going
to
have
to
capture
the
runoff
that
that
that
will
now
be
created
with
the
extra
hardscape,
so
they're
proposing
to
connect
to
capture
that
runoff
through
underground
detention.
There
are
three
three
ponds,
I
think
and
I'll
ask
for
clarification
from
the
african.
I
believe
two
of
them
are
underground
and
one
is
above
ground.
I
may
be
incorrect
on
that,
so
I
want
to
get
verification
for
that.
I
I
With
that
said,
who
will
be
the
first
up
for
the
applicant's
presentation.
B
L
B
L
L
L
Thank
you
for
your
time
this
evening,
allowing
us
to
present
to
you
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
start
out.
By
introducing
our
project
team,
we
have
brian
winslow
dartmouth,
mfp
alex
krasnick
and
brett
parmelee
from
saunders
commercial
development,
company,
terry
willis
and
myself,
james
jronzi,
from
ktgy
architecture
and
planning.
Our
civil
engineer
is
kevin
roth,
with
ross
lang.
Engineering
group,
our
landscape
architect,
is
nathan
stark
from
russell
mills
studio.
L
L
Next,
please,
as
eric
had
stated
previously
we're
proposing
to
build
203
apartment
units
on
the
site.
We
are
including
219
surface
parking
spaces,
92
tuck
under
parking
spaces
in
11,
three-story,
walk-up
apartment
buildings,
with
a
centrally
located
clubhouse.
L
L
The
primary
entrance
to
the
site
will
be
allowed
aligned
with
west
cornell
avenue,
we'll
have
an
access
point
also
on
galapagos
at
the
south
end
of
the
property
and
a
third
access
point
at
the
north
end
of
the
property
near
dartmouth
avenue.
L
This
is
our
site
plan.
As
you
can
see
centrally
located,
you
can
see
the
swimming
pool
in
the
central
part
of
the
site,
the
access
point
at
the
south
end
of
the
site,
which
is
on
the
right-hand
side
off
of
galipago,
the
centrally
located
site,
immediately
opposite
of
cornell
and
at
the
north
end
of
the
site,
the
access
point
off
of
galipago,
as
you
can
see,
we're
proposing
eight
buildings,
all
of
them
three
stories.
L
L
We
have
a
a
surface
detention
pond
at
the
southwest
corner
of
the
site
and
two
centrally
or
located
underground
detention
between
buildings.
Four
and
five.
L
L
Okay.
Next,
please
I
just
we
would
like
to
give
you
a
quick
view
of
renderings
of
some
of
the
buildings
on
the
site,
all
three-story
buildings
in
a
very
contemporary
architectural
expression,
with
a
mixture
of
sloped
roofs
and
flat
roofs
with
parapets
screening,
any
rooftop
mechanical
equipment,
a
lot
of
compensation,
shingles,
tpo
roofs.
L
We've
got
a
fiber
cement
range
screen
with
different
textures,
both
the
the
white
you
see
here
with
a
lap,
siding
rain
screen
product
and
a
simulated
wood
product
in
the
central
part
of
the
of
the
elevation.
Next,
please,
this
is
the
what
I
guess
we
would
call
the
back
side
the
access,
the
residential
access
view
of
the
buildings
tuck
under
garages
along
the
first
floor
with
two
resident
entries
in
between
those
next
please.
L
This
is
views
of
the
three
three-story
duplex
units
that
are
facing
dartmouth.
This
is
the
view
from
inside
the
property
next
fleas
and
our
centrally
located
clubhouse
with
outdoor
space
for
a
yoga
room,
the
central
entry,
where
you
can
see
the
pedestrians
and
a
couple
of
roof
decks
to
take
advantage
of
the
views
to
the
west
of
the
mountains.
L
C
Great
thanks,
jr,
I'm
brett
parmelee
addresses
1302,
south
vine
street
denver
colorado
so,
first
and
foremost,
members
of
the
commission
and
the
public
that
are
here.
Thank
you
all
for
the
time
this
evening
and
appreciate
your
willingness
to.
C
Let
us
present
the
project
here
that
we're
this
is
something
we're
really
excited
about
and
look
forward
to
any
helping
resolve
any
questions
you
may
have
and
familiarizing
your
team
with
with
the
project
so
quick
background
on
the
development
team,
the
applicant
team,
if
you
will
led
by
saunders
development
and
the
winslow
family,
so
I'll
turn
it
over
to
bryant
here
in
a
second,
let
him
give
a
little
background
on
the
winslow
family
and
their
long
history
with
the
site,
but
we've
partnered
together
to
develop
this
project
with
the
intention
of
really
building
finalizing
this.
C
This
component
of
the
residential
use
throughout
the
general
iron
site,
adding
some
multi-family
market
rate
apartments
here
and
with
the
view
towards
a
long-term
community
asset.
That's
really
going
to
complement
the
local
community,
add
to
the
vibrancy
of
the
neighborhood
and
what's
happening
in
this
whole
area,
for
a
quick
background
on
saunders
development.
C
C
C
So
I
think
jr
did
a
great
job
of
the
overview
of
the
projects
happy
to
answer
questions
in
the
best
format
possible,
but
with
that
I'll
I'll
pass
it
off
here
to
bryant
to
give
a
little
background
on
his
family
and
the
role
in
the
in
the
project
too.
J
Thanks
brett,
I
really
appreciate
it,
hello,
everyone,
my
name
is
brian
winslow.
My
address
is
3002
south
huron
in
inglewood,
commissioners
community.
I
really
appreciate.
B
J
Much
technology,
it's
a
wonderful
thing.
Well,
everybody
again,
my
name
is
bryant
winslow.
My
address
is
3002
south
huron
in
inglewood,
and
I
want
to
thank
everybody
for
taking
the
time
to
hear
our
presentation
today.
I'll
just
you
know,
I
think
jr
and
brett
did
a
fantastic
job
hitting
the
high
points
of
our
project,
so
I'll
just
give
everybody
who
isn't
familiar
with
the
site,
a
quick
background
on
my
family
and
and
our
relationship
to
the
property.
J
My
family's
been
a
part
of
inglewood
since
the
late
1920s
and
we've
been
associated,
believe
it
or
not,
with
this
property
since
the
1940s,
so
I'm
the
third
generation
associated
with
this
land-
and
it
has
a
you
know
a
special
meaning
for
me,
because
you
know
it
it's
my
connection
to
my
grandfather
and
the
construction
companies
that
he
started
here
in
the
in
the
late
1940s.
J
The
redevelopment
of
this
site
actually
started
back
in
2010
when
the
city
of
inglewood
actually
came
to
my
family
after
our
acquisition
of
the
general
iron
property
and
asked
if
we
would
consider
taking
both
properties
through
the
pud
process,
master
planning
them
and
start
to
transition
out
of
the
industrial
development.
That
is,
you
know,
long
occupied
both
of
these
properties.
J
So
I'm
really
excited
about
what
I'll
consider
the
final
phase
of
our
master
plan,
the
first
phase
being
general
iron,
where
we
had
for
sale,
housing,
single-family,
residential
for
sale,
housing
and
an
affordable
component,
and
this
sort
of
represents
the
final
phase
of
what
I
would
call.
J
You
know
a
market
rate
apartment,
albeit
at
what
I
would
call
the
lower
end
of
the
price
point,
given
how
crazy
the
colorado
market
has
grown
over
the
last
10
years.
So
with
that,
I
think
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
brett,
and
I
think
that
probably
concludes
our
presentation
and
and
we'll
open
it
up
to
to
questions
from
the.
C
Yeah,
I
think
that's
perfect.
Thanks
brent
we're.
We
walked
through
our
presentation,
largely
I
know,
there's
some
questions
nancy
or
share
the
commission
and
pass
back
to
you
guys.
I
guess
in
what
best
format
you
want
to
facilitate
those
questions,
we're
happy
to
work
through.
I
G
I
have
kind
of
a
I'll
do
a
list
of
questions
here
and
so
I'll
maybe
go
one
by
one.
We
can
kind
of
go
through
these
again
going
back
to
the
open
space.
G
What
are
we
defining
as
open
space
and
is
there
something
to
kind
of
help
clarify
where
that
37
comes
from
that
it
exceeds
it?
Maybe
just
to
get
an
idea.
I
do
think
it's
a
it's
a
really
nice
looking
project
and
you
know
I
think
it's
a
great
benefit
to
the
area,
and
I
can
appreciate
mr
winslow,
your
history,
with
the
project
and
and
with
the
site
and
and
what
that
means,
and
so
I
wanted
to
start
with
that
then
wanted
to
go
into
a
few
of
these
questions.
C
I'm
happy,
I
guess,
wade
eric.
You
guys
tell
me
if
you
want
to
give
the
city
code
response
or
whatnot,
I
should,
I
guess,
taking
a
step
back
logistics
wise,
do
questions
specific
for
the
applicant
for
the
for
city
staff,
or
do
we
want
to
just
answer
them?
Whoever
speaks
up.
How
do
we?
How
should
we
best.
G
C
Yeah,
no
problem
that
that
works,
so
the
open
space,
the
open
space
excludes
parking
anywhere
where
the
building
the
structures
are
driveways,
any
of
that
kind
of
paved
drive,
lanes
and
parking
or
where
the
buildings
are.
It
includes
green
space
landscaping.
C
F
F
G
G
Moving
on
looking
at
that
right
away,
vacation
behind
onto
the
west
side
of
those
existing
properties,
there
looks
like
there's
gonna,
be
a
16-foot
easement
through
there
will
that
be
sufficient
to
allow
those
residents
to
access
that
area
also,
do
we
need
to
give
them
an
access
easement
if
they've
got
garages
and
things
like
that
back
there,
or
will
that
utilities
be
sufficient
for
for
them
for
the
long
term,.
F
It
is
a
transportation
and
utility
easement,
so
it
it,
it
does
cover
access
as
well.
J
Okay,
yeah,
we
feel,
like
I
don't
know
if
you
can
hear
me
calling,
but
we
feel
like-
or
at
least
me
specifically
as
a
long
time
resident
specifically
this
property.
You
know
that
poor
alley
has
been
a
rutted
dirt
road
prone
for
potholes
and
collecting
of
water.
So
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
excited
about
personally
is:
all
of
that
will
get
paved
the
the
residents
will
still
have
access.
J
You
know
the
trash
truck
will
still
be
able
to
get
through
and
and
collect
waste
and
disposal,
but
now
it
will
be
an
improved
roadway
that
will
be
fully
paved.
G
I
was
lucky
enough,
I
guess
to
be
next
to
a
development
that
had
to
pave
our
alleyway,
and
I
can't
tell
you
how
excited
I
was
about
that
situation
happening.
So
there
was
comments
on
the
parking
study
and
parking
reduction
study
and
I
think,
we're
you
know
we're
I'm
not
going
to
speak
for
everybody,
I'm
in
agreement
with
a
reduction
of
the
normal
parking
standards,
but
guy
had
a
quite
a
few
comments
associated
with
those.
G
How
are
those
being
tracked
and
do
we
get
to
see
those
before
or
how
are
we
tracking
and
do?
How
do
we
get
to
see
those
before
it
gets
approved,
or
do
we
get
to
see
those
or
how
does
that
work.
F
Those
will
continue
to
be
tracked
through
the
construction
documents
as
well
as
prior
to
any
building
permit
being
issued.
Any
sort
of
outstanding
tweaks
that
need
to
happen
would
be
sure
to
be.
We
would
make
sure
they
would
happen
before
any
permits
were
issued.
G
Okay,
I
guess
part
of
that
was
he
had
questions
on
like
what
that
distant.
Well,
I'm
not
sure
if
his
questions
were
exactly
what
that
distance
was
to
the
light
rail,
but
whether
the
reduction
was
right.
I
think
his
final
comment
was.
It
seems
reasonable.
They
seem
right,
but
there
were
some
additional
questions,
so
I
guess
what
was
that
distance
that
we're
using?
Is
it
a
walkable
distance
really
to
the
light
rail?
C
Yeah,
I
think
I'll
jump
in
just
real,
quick,
at
least
to
go
and
kind
of
to
highlight,
at
least
at
one
point-
we're
certainly
aligned
with
you
and
ensuring
that
we
have
sufficient
parking
right.
The
project
won't
work
for
us
and
the
last
thing
any
of
us
want
is
to
build
an
apartment,
complex
and
you
know,
have
a
bunch
of
aiken
apartments
right,
because
people
don't
have
parking
and
need
parking.
C
So
I
think
in
our
in
our
review
in
the
parking
study
that
we
had
done
as
well
as
concluding
some
pretty
comprehensive
market
data
across
other
projects
in
both
in
this
sub
market
and
across
the
denver
metro
area.
We
got
really
comfortable,
ultimately,
at
again
the
parking
ratio
that
we've
provided
at
1.5
parking
spaces
per
unit
which,
with
these
size
units
right,
equates
to
1.3
parking
spaces
for
every
bedroom.
C
So
right,
if
we
think
about
that,
every
single
bedroom
is
going
to
have
more
than
one
space
throughout
the
throughout
the
project,
so
that
really
kind
of
got
us
comfortable.
I
think
there's
going
to
be
sufficient
parking
for
if
everybody
has
a
car,
you
know
that
that
will
be
satisfactory.
There.
G
And,
along
with
the
parking,
comes
the
traffic
side
and
obviously
impacts
the
galapagos
doesn't
look
like
there's
any
requirement
for
a
light
at
dartmouth
and
gala
galapagos.
I
was
a
little
surprised
by
that.
Is
there
any
maybe
further
thoughts
on
on
the
need
for
that
there's
most
of
traffic
going
to
santa
fe
and
that's
the
reasoning.
J
You
know-
maybe
I
can
jump
in
and
try
and
answer
that
question
colin,
I'm
not
a
traffic
expert
but
having
been.
J
With
this
property
for
many
many
years,
I
think
one
of
the
the
big
challenges
is
the
light
at
inca
and
its
relationship
to
galapagos
and
ultimately
santa
fe
yeah,
and
I
think,
that's
part
of
the
reason
why
we've
reduced
the
density
on
this
site
so
that
we
don't
cause
a
traffic
problem,
and
I
think
that
you
know
the
entire
development
team's
done.
A
pretty
good
job
of
you
know.
J
Staying
within
you
know
the
the
confines
of
the
of
the
project
and
the
surrounding
infrastructure,
so
that
we
build
something
that
is
sustainable
and
successful.
Not
only
for
the
you
know
for
the
project,
but
for
the
entire
community.
G
I've
I've
got
one
more.
I've
got
a
couple
more
questions,
I'm
going
to
go
one
more.
If
I
can
and
then
I'll
let
everybody
else
have
a
have
a
chance.
The
underground
detention
is
that
maintained
privately,
and
I
guess
who
owns
that.
Who
maintains
that
and
was
there
going
to
be
a
drainage
report
included,
or
is
that
just
something
that
the
city
approves
and
is
good
together?.
C
I
I
C
Oh,
I
was
just
gonna
say
I
can
jump.
I
mean
the
private
detention
pond
underneath
will
be
private
right,
so
they'll
be
they'll,
be
maintained
by
us
and
they're
located
there
again,
the
two
underground
and
the
one
above
great
over
there.
C
Correct
yep,
they're,
privately
maintained
and
then
to
your
second
question
around
the
drainage
study.
There's
a
preliminary
drainage
study
that
has
been
done.
That's
been
approved
that
at
the
final
plat
or
at
the
flat
finalization,
there
will
be
a
final
drainage
study
to
support
those
as
well
ensure
that
we're
adequately
covering
it
because.
G
We
obviously
have
some
issues
around
these
areas
and
you
know
always
good
to
make
sure
you
know
that
we're
all
understanding
what's
going
on
there.
So
I
appreciate
that.
I
think
I've
managed
to
take
up
enough
time
here
so
I'll
step
away
for
a
minute
and
let
everyone
else
go
in.
Thank
you.
I
Any
other
commissioners
want
to
raise
their
hand.
Daryl
kenton
is
next.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Nancy.
A
Hi
I
yeah
I
want
to
congratulate
the
the
applicant
on
not
rushing
this
project
as
I
was
involved
at
the
other
end
of
the
project,
and
I
know
that
you
put
a
lot
of
time
into
it
and
I
just
you
know
obviously
you're
wanting
to
do
it
right.
I
am
a
little
concerned
about
what
column
brought
up
about
the
the
intersection
and
traffic
problems
there.
A
A
My
other
question,
I
guess,
was
about
the
you
know
what
types
of
you
know:
incomes
and
people
are
going
to
be
able
to
get
in
this
housing.
Obviously,
this
serves
a
a
need
and
and
is
opportunity
to
bring
in
some
some
good
new
residents
to
angle.
A
I
I
guess,
I'd
like
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
what
what
types
of
you
know:
incomes
and
people
you
think
will
be
brought
in
with
this
development
and
what
you
know
what
housing
needs
it
might
serve
for
people
that
will
come
into
the
community
new
to
the
community
as
well
as
possibly
people
that
are
already
here.
That
you
know
can
take
advantage
of
what's
heard.
C
Yeah,
absolutely
thanks
daryl
for
the
questions
I
think
on
the
on
the
applicant
pool
or
whatnot
or
kind
of
the
tenant
base.
You
know
we
don't
have
any
I'll,
be
very
clear
that
we
don't
have
any
specific
demographic
target.
You
know
it's
going
to
be
open.
I
will
say
you
know
it's
going
to
be
market
rate
apartment,
so
the
market
will
drive
where
these
apartments
will
be
rented.
We
have
again
we
we
have
expectations.
C
I'll,
say
you
know
three
years
from
now
where
that
is
but
that's
kind
of
a
a
crystal
ball
that
nobody
really
knows.
I
will
say
again:
there'll
be
market
rate,
but
I
think,
as
we
think
about
this
project,
where
it
is-
and
we
do
believe
it
will
bring
a
number
of
new
residents
into
the
area,
also
opening
up
opportunity
for
existing
residents
if
they
do
want
to
move
into
a
newer
product.
C
I
think
there's
some
great
there's
a
great
mix
across
this
project
and
the
other
projects
that
the
winslow
family
has
been
a
part
of
in
the
beginning
across
the
rest
of
the
general
iron
site
and
when
we
think
about
the
mix
of
this,
these
203
market
rate
rental
apartments,
plus
the
70
units
that
are
right
up
the
street
at
the
foundry.
You
know
that
that
combines
us
about
25
of
the
kind
of
collective
project
at
affordable
and
those
are
the
foundry
or
seed
restricted,
affordable
units.
C
So
I
think,
there's
a
there's:
a
good
mix
and
again
a
mix
of
price
points
of
for
sale
for
rent
across
the
the
numerous
projects
that
that
the
winslow
family
has
saw
has
kind
of
led
getting
into
the
general
ironing.
J
Site
and
maybe
daryl
I'll
jump
in
and
and
piggyback
on
to
a
few
things
that
you
know
brett
pointed
out.
J
I
think
it
should
be
noted
that
of
the
203
units
gosh
it
almost
160
of
those
units
will
be
studios
and
one
bedrooms
which
will
help
push
the
cost
per
square
foot
down.
Well.
Excuse
me
we'll
help
push
the
gross
rent
down
for
those
tenants.
L
J
So
you
know
I
envision
those
you
know
being
I
I
couldn't
even
I
guess
quantify
that
to
a
an
annual
income,
but
I
would
say
it
would
be.
You
know
normal.
You
know
everyday
citizens,
you
know
working
class
people,
young
students
catching
the
light
rail
to
go
to
the
metro
campus
cu,
denver
campus
downtown.
J
J
Also,
to
answer
your
question
about
the
intersection
at
dartmouth
and
galipago,
the
traffic
report
notes
that
you
know
once
this
project
is
up
and
stabilized
that
the
intersection
will
be
running
at
I
guess
they
they
grade
it
at
a
b
or
better
intersection,
which
is
a
fully
functioning
for
lack
of
a
better
turn
and
since
I'm
not
a
traffic
engineer,
a
healthy
intersection.
J
You
know.
Surprisingly,
there
was
a
lot
of
construction
traffic
coming
in
and
out
of
winslow
crane
and
winslow
construction
every
day
and
a
lot
of
that
traffic
was
semis
and
tractor
trailers
and-
and
you
know
our
big
cranes.
J
So
you
know
we're
really
removing
a
lot
of
that
big
equipment
and
the
impediment
that
they
create
in
those
intersections
and
and
the
traffic
that
backs
up
behind
them
and
replacing.
A
J
You
know
with
you
know:
regular
vehicles,
you
know
two
axle
vehicles,
so
I
I
think
that
that
drives
a
lot
of.
What's
behind
the
positive
traffic
report
and
and
it
you
know,
daryl,
I
might
add
that
we
had
to
get
a
traffic
report
back
in.
J
I
think
it
was
2012
or
13
when
the
pod
was
approved
and
this
traffic
and
again
back
in
those
days
the
traffic
study
was
very
favorable,
and
this
updated
traffic
study
seems
to
reflect
that
current
condition
of
you
know,
keeping
that
intersection
of
galipago
and
dartmouth
healthy.
A
It
yeah
thank
you.
I
do
appreciate
that
the
thought
that
you
guys
have
put
into
this-
and
you
know
I
and
also
the
the
fact
that
you're
you
know
designing
this
in
a
way
I
think
it's
going
to
meet
a
real
need
for
for
housing
at
a
price.
You
know
at
a
reasonable,
I
mean
it's
market
rate,
but
it's
that
it,
like
you
said
with
the
smaller
sizes.
I
think
it
will
really
fill
a
niche
of
housing
that
that
we
need.
So
thanks
for
that.
O
Thank
you
just
wanted
to
say
this
is
not
an
easy
shape
of
a
site
to
work
with
some
challenges
there,
but
I
think
you've
come
up
with
a
good
plan,
especially
considering
those
constraints,
and
I
think
it's
great
also
that
you're
willing
to
work
with
the
city
on
the
rail
trail
easement
and
that's
a
big
piece
regionally
as
well
as
as
for
the
city.
So
I
think
that's.
That
is
great.
O
C
That's
a
good
one,
kate,
where
I
think
so
the
the
circula
I'm
trying
to
think.
If,
if
jr
you
want
to
take
this
one
or
I
can
take
it,
okay.
L
Yeah
I
can,
I
could
speak
to
the
to
the
circulation.
The
pedestrian
circulation
I
think
first
off
is,
is
going
to
be
largely
through
the
the
way
these
buildings
are
laid
out
is,
as
you
can
see,
the
internally
facing
the
let's
see
internally
to
the
site
is
where
we
have
our
garages
and
access.
So
the
the
the
vehicular
access
really
circulates
through
the
central
portions
of
the
site
accessing
the
buildings.
L
That
way
each
of
the
buildings
has
entries
both
on
the
parking
side
and
on
the
fronts
or
the
pedestrian
side.
So
our
our
goal
was
to
provide
a
more
street
and
residential
friendly
access
and
and
face
to
the
buildings
facing
the
street
and
really
keep
the
garages
and
the
vehicular
access
off
the
street
and
internal
to
the
site.
So
we
have
a
good
network
of
accessible
paths
through
the
site
that
gets
people
to
the
clubhouse.
Clubhouse
is
centrally
located
the
pool
central
centrally
located,
so
everybody's
got
fairly
good
access.
L
To
the
clubhouse
and
the
amenities,
we
also
have
a
separate
mill
building
that
is
located
just
west
of
building
four,
a
male
pavilion.
So
all
the
mailboxes
for
the
project
are
essentially
located
near
the
clubhouse.
It
gives
the
opportunity
for
for
residents
to
gather
mingle
interact.
L
L
L
That's
correct,
so
the
central
and
the
primary
entrance
is
opposite:
cornell
right
where,
where
the
arrow
is
pointing
and
then
at
the
south
end
of
the
site,
which
is
the
existing
curb
cut
from
the
winslow
crane
property
off
galipago
and
then
also
at
the
north
end,
we
have
the
access
access
to
the
site.
O
L
I
will
I
can
speak
to
it
as
a
as
a
not
not
as
a
lighting
consultant,
but
as
an
architect.
So
the
one
of
the
goals
is
to
to
keep
the
light
leakage
from
the
perimeter
of
the
site
to
a
minimum
so
that
we're
not
shining
lights
in
neighbors
in
neighbor's
eyes
and
keeping
enough
a
nice
enough
level
of
light.
That
will
be
along
the
rail
trail.
L
So
that
there's
a
relative
sense
of
comfort
along
those
and
then
there's
just
a
general
low
level
of
lighting
enough
to
provide
a
comfortable
light
level
of
light
to
find
our
way
around
probably
a
little
more
light
around
the
pool
area
and
with
the
directional
lighting,
so
that
the
lighting
isn't
shining
into
the
windows
of
the
adjacent
buildings.
N
Thank
you.
My
questions
are
a
little
different
than
the
previous
questions,
all,
although
possibly
related
with
regards
to
the
parking
not
to
beat
a
dead
horse,
but
I'm
curious
because
I
did
look
at
the
at
the
study.
That
said,
you
know
we
looked
at
lone
tree.
We
looked
at
lakewood
and
you
know
this
site
would
be
providing
80
or
140
more
spaces
than
those
jurisdictions
would
be
requiring
considering
the
proximity
to
the
to
the
light
rail,
the
proximity
to
the
bike
trails,
I'm
curious
how
you
came
up
with
that.
N
C
Yeah
sure
I'll
take
that
one.
So
I
think
look,
there's
I'll
tell
you
first,
there's
no
perfect
science
to
get
to
the
exact
number.
C
You
know
knowing
exactly
what
we'll
need,
so
it's
a
combination
that
we
work
through
of
what
that
one
and
a
half
times
or
one
and
a
half
stalls
per
unit
kind
of
again
triangulating
based
on
other
projects
and
what
we've
seen
as
utilization
at
those
other
projects
and
then,
admittedly,
there's
also
a
combination
of
the
factor
of
where
the
code
minimum
is
today
right
and
not
deviating
and
trying
to
get
as
close
as
we
can
and
what
not
in
working
within
the
city's
code
too.
C
So
I
think
we
feel
like
that
again
that
1.3
per
bedroom
is
certainly
going
to
be
sufficient.
I
think
there's
certainly
room.
H
C
The
you
know
if
we
were
to
get
the
feedback
that
there's
too
much
parking,
we
need
to
lose
some.
You
know
I
don't.
I
don't
think
we
would
fight
against
losing
some
of
the
spaces,
but
we
wouldn't
want
to
shrink
it
too
much
and
again
that
well
as
wade
and
eric
pointed
out
right,
the
10
reduction
from
where
that
code
is
today,
we
also
didn't
want
to
work
to
you
know,
propose
a
plan
that
showed
a
50
reduction.
C
Even
if
you
know
you
could
point
to
one
other,
a
project
in
lakewood
or
laundry
or
something
that
that
that
count
seems
to
work
there.
We
do
think
at
least
me
personally
as
well.
Do
you
agree
that?
Well,
I
think
people
are
utilizing
a
number
of
different
modes
of
transportation.
C
Unfortunately,
today
that
you
know
the
lion
share,
people
are
still
using
cars
as
their
primary
method,
so
kind
of
answer.
It.
N
Don't
that
was
that
was
a
very
helpful
response
and
I
you
know,
I
know
that
we
are
going
through
a
public
process
of
looking
at
the
existing
zoning
code,
and
I
know
that
at
least
on
the
committees,
I'm
on
that
the
parking
being
there's
definitely
a
difference
of
opinion
about.
What's
the
right
amount
of
parking
too
much
too
little,
but
I
know
it's
definitely
a
topic
of
conversation
to
reduce
it
somewhat.
So
I.
G
L
A
N
Definitely
say
I
would
be
in
favor
of
that
and
to
to
that
end
or
actually
to
the
next
point,
which
is
a
little
bit
piggybacking
on
kate's
comments
with
regards
to
the
landscaping.
N
D
N
F
N
In
the
rendering
that
the
sidewalk
is
shown
as
detached.
L
And-
and
I
can
I
could
speak,
I
could
speak
to
that
as
as
really
as
renderers
freedom
taking
liberties
with
the
actual
conditions.
L
You
know
the
goal
here
was
to
to
show
the
building
and,
and
so
the
the
the
rendering
does
reflect
a
detached
sidewalk.
So
to
that
extent
there
there's
a
certain
level
of
inaccuracy.
N
Fair
enough,
I
think,
that's
other
than
other
than
the
ownership
of
the
rail
trail,
which
I
think
I
heard
previously,
that
that
would
that
easement
would
be
taken
over
by
the
city.
The
city
would
own
maintain
and
stall.
Anything
that
would
go
in
there.
Is
that
what
I
heard
yeah,
I
see
it
a
shaking
head.
C
C
C
The
only
other
thing
is
diane,
I
would
just
say
to
your
earlier
question
around.
You
know
the
sidewalk
around
those
private
residences
along
galipego.
I
think
we're
we're
certainly
expecting
and
planning
to
work
in
close
coordination
with
the
city
to
figure
that
out.
That's
as
noted
in
the
you
know,
the
staff
report
we
had
asked
for
that
variant
and
I
think
really
the
the
biggest
touching
point,
the
tough,
the
tough
issue
there
is
that
private
residents
have
built.
C
You
know
their
own
improvements
and
things
that
are
in
the
right
of
way,
and
so
then
we're
being
asked
right
to
put
the
put
things
in
the
right
of
way.
But
you
can't
have
both.
You
know
you
can't
have
fencing
on
top
of
sidewalks,
so
we've
got
to
figure
that
out
in
how
it
works
out
with
all
those
residents.
So
we're
certainly
committed
to
working
with
the
city
to
to
figure
out
the
right
solution
and
work
through
this.
N
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
answering
my
questions
and
I
think
overall,
this
is
a
great
project
for
the
city
and
I'm
excited
to
have
sort
of
this
big.
This
big
of
a
development
with
this
many
rooms
and
and
opportunities
for
people
to
live
near
biking,
light
rail,
the.
D
B
O
O
But
if
the
I
don't
know,
if
wade
or
folks
do,
if
you
have
information
at
least
along
dartmouth,
if
that
is
or
from
the
site
plan
that,
let
me
just
confirm.
So
that
is
not
going
to
be
a
detached
sidewalk
along
dartmouth,
at
least
in
this
proposal.
C
I
G
This
is
colin
and
I'm
happy
to
carl.
If
you
want
to
go
first,
but
whenever.
H
I
I
got
a
quick
one
here:
it's
kind
of
related
to
the
traffic
at
the
galapagos
dartmouth
there,
the
traffic's
going
to
be
there.
There
will
be
more
traffic
on
a
galapagos
and
as
soon
as
you
turn
that
corner
there
there's
a
crosswalk
right
there
and
if
there's,
I
don't
believe,
there's
a
light
on
that.
Well,
there
is
a
light
on
that
crosswalk,
but
it's
it's
not
controlled
by
the
there's,
no
button
there
to
to
hit
for
people
to
walk
across
there.
H
I
H
H
Investigation
into
that,
I
believe
that
would
because,
if,
if
there's
no
button
there
for
the
pedestrians
and
the
light
turns
red,
then
and
there's
no
traffic,
they
might
just
walk
across
instead
of
waiting
for
the
light.
If
there's
a
button
there,
they
will
hit
the
button
wait.
Maybe
maybe
I
don't
know
that
that's
all
for
now.
C
Yeah,
I
think,
just
carl.
I
appreciate
the
comment
and
we're
certainly
keenly
focused
as
a
lot
of
the
discussion,
and
a
lot
of
our
planning
as
well
has
been
around
getting
people
to
the
light
rail
effectively.
So
I
do
think
I
think
that
lighted
inca
there
is
a
pedestrian
button,
at
least
on
the
north
side
of
dartmouth.
I
G
Thank
you.
I
I
did
confirm.
There
is
a
light.
I
think,
on
the
south
side.
Also
just
clarification.
That's
a
great
question,
carl
speaking
of
the
very
south
entrance.
Will
that
be
a
write-in
right
out
due
to
the
proximity
to
dartmouth?
C
I'll
have
to
double
check
on,
but
I
think
after
my
gut
reaction,
the
plan
is,
I
don't
think,
that's
a
restricted,
write-in
right
out.
I
think
it
could
be
left
out
of
there
and
anna
turn
in,
but
I'd
have
to
double
check.
B
C
He
just
I,
I
think
it
was
just
you
probably
heard
him
through
that.
C
Yeah,
I
think
you're
hearing
it
across
from
from
me,
so
it
is,
it
won't
be
restricted.
It
won't
be
restricted
as
designed
today
we
have
in
talking
with
the
traffic
engineer
that
you
know
was
never
brought
up,
but
certainly
a
good
question.
So,
okay.
G
C
G
It
won't
be
in
actual
access,
but
some
sort
of
restriction
on
that
or
something
along
those
lines.
C
No,
it
will
be
an
access,
it
won't
be
a
primary
access
for
for
tenants
in
the
project,
mostly
for
trash
and
things
that
will
come
along,
that
the
back
side
of
galapagos
still
service
that
alley,
as
shown
there.
L
No,
that's
that's
correct.
The
the
the
intent
is
in
in
vacating
the
the
l.a
just
west
of
building
three.
This
allows
the
retain
the
le
access
in
a
continuous
single
direction
so
that
trash
trucks
or
service
vehicles
or
people's
don't
have
to
to
come
in
and
back
up
and
try
and
pull
around.
They
just
have
a
single
straight
run
through
the
alley.
G
Okay,
then
two
more:
is
there
an
exist,
they're
not
existing.
Are
you
proposing
a
sidewalk
in
the
very
west
side
of
the
building
adjacent
to
the
trail,
and
will
there
be
any
separation
between
those?
Is
there
like
a
some
sort
of
fence
to
restrict
access,
or
will
that
just
be
wide
open
or
a
double
sidewalk,
or
how
will
that.
C
L
Yeah
I
can,
I
could
speak
to
that,
so
the
you
know
that
that
building,
7
and
and
actually
building
six
and
building
eight
will
have
direct
access
to
the
to
the
trail.
So
I
guess
over
time,
as
a
trail
is
designed,
the
the
intent
is
that
that
trail
and
sidewalk
will
be
one
in
the
same.
At
that
stretch
there
won't
be
a
fence
or
gates
or
anything
between
them.
G
But
there'll
be
the
the
trail
and
the
sidewalk,
it
won't
be
a
shared.
You
want
to
have
the
access
you're,
not
utilizing
that
easement
for
access
to
building
seven
and
six
or
well.
Six,
probably
not
because
I
think
the
trail's
on
the
other
side
correct,
correct
you'll
we'll
have
both
the
the
sidewalk
and
then
the
trail.
E
L
There
we
go
my
apologies,
so
yeah,
the
the
sidewalk
in
the
trail
will
be
one
in
the
same.
E
L
G
L
Yeah
well
well,
those
those
actually
would
wouldn't
be
the
primary
access.
As
you
see
the
layout
of
the
building,
you
know,
there's
there's
three
access
points
on
the
east
side
of
the
building
and
and
for
internal
circulation,
whether
those
people
are
going
to
their
their
cars
on
surface
park
during
their
garages
or
accessing
the
clubhouse
or
any
of
the
other
amenities
on
the
project.
L
They'll
be
primarily
accessing
those
through
the
east
side
of
the
building
and
then
the
the
acts.
The
access
points
on
the
west
side
of
the
building
will
be
minimal.
G
Okay
and
concerns
me
a
little
bit,
but
I'm
sure
you
guys
are
long-term
owners
of
this,
and
maybe
not
you
guys,
but
winslow
saunders
so
seems
a
little
troublesome,
but
I'll
let
the
city
or
you
guys,
figure
that
out.
I
don't
think.
That's
necessarily
a
zoning
question.
Another
just
question
I
had
and
the
last
question
I
do
have
that
does
really
concern
me
is
the
size
of
the
garages.
You
know
I've
seen
in
a
lot
of
places,
there's
a
garage
right
that
has
no
ability
to
actually
fit
a
car.
G
How
what
are
the
sizes
of
those?
How
are
those
minimums
set
and-
and
how
do
we
understand?
You
know
what
what
fits
in
there.
L
And
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
that
the
the
garages
are
set
at
an
absolute
minimum
are
larger
slightly
larger
than
the
required
spaces,
which
is
memory,
serves
me
correct,
or
nine
feet
by
18
feet.
Our
garages
are
approximately
10
feet
by
20
feet.
G
Now
I
have
to
find
my
mute
button
it
it
does.
I
guess,
like
I
said,
and
maybe
wade
or
you
could
confirm.
I
don't
know
that
we
have
a
minimum
garage
size.
It
just
goes
into
that
question
of
you
know.
What's
going
to
be
usable,
is
it's
going
to
end
up
being
storage
for
places
as
opposed
to
parking?
I
feel
like
10
foot
by
20
foot
would
fit
somebody's
truck.
G
You
know
if
that's
their
only
vehicle,
they
have
is
a
work
truck
or
something
like
that,
but
I
just
wasn't
sure
if
you
guys,
you
know
I've
seen
some
of
the
you
know
the
six
plexes
that
have
or
the
slot
homes
that
have
two-car
garages.
G
That
really
are
just
one
car
garage,
they're,
just
they're,
not
big
enough
for
two
cars,
and
so
you
know
it's
probably
a
little
different
with
just
one
car
makes
a
little
more
sense
to
have
one
space,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
was
kind
of
thought
through
a
little
bit
too.
L
You
know
so
each
of
the
garages
are
our
our
individual
single
space
garages,
so
so
nobody's
sharing
a
garage
with
another
person
or
there's
no
two-car
garages
and
at
10
feet
by
20
feet
it's
slightly
larger
than
than
the
required
parking
space,
which
you
know
at
nine
by
18
is
as
as
a
inner
city
dweller.
I
I
would
consider
generous,
but
I
I
know
it
works,
for
you
know,
for
most
people
with
larger
cars
and
and
suvs
and
the
like.
L
So
I
think
the
10
foot
by
20
feet
is
is
adequate
and
brett.
You
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
you
won't
be
allowing
people
to
not
park
in
their
garage
and
and
store
things
and
use
them
for
storage.
C
Yeah,
the
intent
of
the
garage
has
certainly
gone
to
your
point
is
that
people
are
functionally
utilizing
them
as
parking,
and
so
I
think
that
again
to
make
them
functional
so
that
they're
useful
that
way
that
people
can
get
their
vehicles
in
there
and
then
jr's
second
point
of
highlighting
that
each
garage
is
an
individual
garage
right.
So
if
somebody,
if
you're
down
the
road
they're
not
being
used,
and
somebody
has
two
vehicles
and
wants
to
rent
two
garages,
you
can
do
that.
But
it's
two
separate
garages
right.
C
It's
not
just
just
one
garage
that
we
list
is
two
and
you
can't
actually
put
two
in.
B
E
M
Great
thank
you.
I
had
a
question
about
how
the
residents
of
the
buildings
that
are
not
along
galapagos
would
access
the
sidewalk
along
dartmouth
to
get
to
the
light
rail
station.
So
I
see
the
you
know.
The
rail
trail.
D
M
Passes
by
but
I
can't
quite
tell
you
know,
would
they
come
all
the
way
to
that
northwest
corner
and
then
head
all
the
way
east
to
get
to
galapagos
or
would
people
you
know
be
walking
kind
of
from
say
building
seven
through.
M
Parking
lots
back
through
the
alleyway
and
out
to
where
galapagos
and
dartmouth
meet
just
trying.
C
Yeah
no
good
question.
I
think
our
expectation
is
that
the
the
most
primary
tenants
within
this
space
will
head
to
gallapago
and
walk
along
that
sidewalk
there
and
take
that
pedestrian
route
along
galapagos
dartmouth
come
down
to
the
pedestrian
crossing
at
inca
and
then
go
across.
C
I
think
that's
our
once
the
rail
trail
is
in.
I
think
people
will
certainly
take
that
a
bit
as
well
from
the,
for
example,
if
you're
in
building
seven
in
building
six
is
a
bit
of
a
toss
up
again,
once
you
get
down,
there's
a
big
grade,
change
from
where
the
road
is
at
dartmouth
and
where
you
cross,
you
know
to
where
you're
much
higher
up
when
you're
on
galapagos.
So
I
think
people
will
probably
take
get
the
galloping
and
walk
down.
F
And
if
I
might
just
interject,
this
is
wade
real
quick.
There
is
a
future
capital
project
that
takes
a
pedestrian
bridge
over
dartmouth
from
the
rail
trail,
so
it
would
connect
over
parallel
to
the
tracks.
But
yes,
until
that
till
that
time
they
would
take
the
route
as
as
described.
I
Okay,
that
said,
I
have
one
quick
question:
do
you
anticipate
charging
for
parking.
C
I
hit
your
question
as
well,
but
to
your
question
around
around
parking
payment
it'll
be
market
driven.
I
I
don't
have
a
firm
answer.
Yes
on
yes
or
no,
to
be
honest
right
now.
I
think
there
is
an
expectation
with
if
you're
gonna,
rent
a
garage
that
there's
gonna
be
a
cost
associated
with
that
in
terms
of
the
surface
parking
it'll
be
market
driven
for
for
when
we
get
there.
C
If
there's,
if
there's
you
know,
demand
and
excess
of
it,
we
would
but
right
now
I
would
say
we're
targeting
just
at
the
garages.
C
Correct
so
the
parking
will
be
available
for
residents
only
and
to
make
sure
that
we're
supporting
and
providing
adequate
parking
for
those
tenants,
our
expectation
today
we
don't
have
the
exact.
You
know.
We
don't
have
exact
releases
that
folks
are
signing
now,
but
our
expectation
today
is
that
we're
there
will
be
a
charge
for
garage
parking,
but
not
for
surface
parking.
Okay,.
H
I
got
a
question
I
I
can't
remember
for
sure,
but
isn't
there
some
electric
car?
Oh
it's
installed
somewhere
in
there.
H
C
Yep
yeah
there
is
the
the
our
plan
would
comply
with
the
city's
requirement.
There
we'd
have
one
of
the
charging
stations
in
near
the
clubhouse
is
the
initial
one
and
then,
and
that
would
service.
I
believe
two
vehicles
jr
jump
in
here.
If
I'm
getting
the
numbers
wrong,
but
yeah
two
vehicles
initially
and
then
we'd
have
a
conduit
run
for
additional
charging
stations
to
potentially
come
in.
H
Okay,
one
of
is,
I
was
over
there
and
took
a
look
at
the
sign
on
the
in
the
middle
of
the
the
north
half
of
it.
There
was
a
bunch
of
pipes
in
the
ground
and
it
looked
like
we
were
protecting
fuel
pumps
over
there,
so
I'm
assuming
that
the
fuel
pumps
were
removed
and
the
tanks
are
still
that
true.
J
Carl,
this
is
bryant
yeah,
you're,
absolutely
correct.
Those
bollards
were
in
the
ground
to
protect
the
above
grade
fuel
storage
for
the
construction
operation
that
has
since
vacated
so.
J
Sorry,
I
forgot
carl,
my
apologies.
Yes,
you're
correct
those
bollards
were
in
the
ground
to
protect
the
above
grade
fuel
storage
that
we
had
before
the
construction
operation
was
vacated.
All
of
that
will
be
removed
if
we're
fortunate
enough
to
receive
you
know
approval
moving
forward
when
we
start
our
earth
moving
effort.
B
B
E
Sure,
okay,
these
are
more,
I
guess,
comments
and
things
to
take
into
consideration
being
yeah.
So
I
understand
a
lot
of
the
things
that
were
discussed
in
this
call
were
really
specifically
about
the
residence
itself,
but
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
a
resident
of
one
of
the
adjacent
streets,
I'm
on
south
fox
and
dartmouth,
so
I'm
just
curious
with
the
influx
of
at
least
203
dwellings,
which
brings
us
to
let's
say
around
400
additional
people
that
will
be
residing
within
those
two
blocks
of
within
that
lot
of
land.
E
I'm
concerned
about
just
that
volume
that
will
get
not
only
on
the
roads
like
with
cars,
but
also
just
foot
traffic,
so
with
the
bottom
of
people,
I'm
concerned
that
there
are
not
a
sufficient
amount
of
lamp
posts
on
these
roads,
specifically
on
south
fox
and
on
galapagos.
E
E
The
traffic
is
a
big
concern
to
me
because,
with
those
203
residences,
there
will
be
a
minimum
of
200
cars
that
will
be
in
addition
to
the
cars
that
are
currently
here
with
residents.
So
you
know
the
safety,
the
congestion,
as
well
as
like
the
noise
pollution,
as
well
as
just
like
environmental
pollution
there,
with
the
addition
of
those
200
at
least
200
vehicles
and
then
also
the
road.
Currently,
I
do
not
believe
comfortably
accommodate
two-way
traffic.
In
the
instance
of
oncoming
traffic.
E
I
find
myself
having
to
pull
over
to
the
closer
to
the
curb
in
order
to
accommodate
that
other
vehicles
to
come
through.
So
that's
a
concern
of
mine
as
well.
The
sidewalks
are
also
quite
small
already
they
accommodate
the
residents
that
currently
live
here.
However,
with
the
influx
of
you
know
upwards
of
200
to
possibly
four,
maybe
even
400
people
they're
just
going
to
be
a
lot
more
people
on
the
road
also
probably
a
lot
more
dogs.
E
So
that's
the
concern
and
then
also
the
con,
the
impact
of
the
construction
on
the
community.
I
understand
that
the
construction
will
take
approximately
three
years
so
in
terms
of
noise
pollution
dust
and
just
like
overall
safety
over
the
next
three
years.
That
is
a
concern
that
I
do
have
other
than
that.
E
I
think
that's
pretty
much
it
so
really
it's
safety
just
enhancing
the
community
around
the
the
lot,
not
just
within
the
lot
itself,
I
think,
is
a
big
concern
of
mine,
because
this
law
not
only
will
definitely
affect
all
the
residents
that
live
on
the
adjacent
streets,
including
myself,.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
chair.
If
I
could
ask
you
to
state
for
the
record
that
the
ms
kirkman's
email
was
received,
yes
and
the
commissioners
have
received
that,
and
that
will,
if
you
could
just
state
that
it's
entered
into
the
record.
I
Please,
yes,
I'm
sorry!
I
don't.
I
think
what
was
her
first
name,
miss
kirkman's
first
name
or
did
I
call
her
miss
kirkman
kathleen
kirkman
kathleen
kirkman?
Yes
did
submit
an
email
to
the
commission.
I
I
believe
yesterday,
prior
to
the
when
the
the
comments
needed
to
be
received
and
it
was
published
and
sent
to
all
of
the
commissioners.
I
B
B
Very
good,
so
I
there
are
a
couple
of
people
that
have
joined
after
I
checked.
There
is
someone
by
the
name
of
varney.
Do
you
wish
to
address
the
commission
this
evening
and
be
sworn
in.
B
B
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
two
others
dylan
harrison.
E
B
B
F
F
K
Is
that
working
out.
B
K
B
K
K
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
back
up
dan
there
and
say
we
are
noticing
in
the
ironworks
community
there's
a
number
of
us
who
had
the
issue
mentioned
before
I
think
of
garages
not
being
to
the
size
people
expected,
and
so
I
think
we're
facing
a
lot
of
spillover,
and
so
yeah
parking
has
been
one
of
our
concerns
there,
as
the
new
folks
come
in
everyone
fighting
along
the
the
baits
curve
into
galipago,
just
something
to
keep
front
person.
K
Foremost,
it's
interesting
to
hear
from
diane
the
the
other
perspective.
I
guess
of
there's
kind
of
two
sides
to
the
parking
conversation,
but
I
guess
our
our
thought
was
yeah
on
back
to
the
ratio,
just
wondering
whether
that
does
satisfy
folks
and
their
visitors,
and-
and
you
know,
two
two
residents
to
a
bedroom
in
cases
would
just
wonder
about
the
reduction
in
the
in
that
parking
ratio.
K
E
I
actually,
this
is
jennifer
bartlett
and
I
did
want
to
make
a
comment.
B
E
Thank
you
sure,
okay,
so
thank
you.
I
wanted
to
just
acknowledge
the
trail
and
some
of
the
nice
features
in
your
development.
I
do
appreciate
what
that
will
bring
to
the
community.
My
comment
and
concern
is
actually
about
the
sidewalk.
I
know
that
we've
seen
the
rendering
we've
seen
the
site
plan
and
they're
different.
I
think
after
living
here
for
a
few
years
and
in
iron
works
where
we
do
have
detached
sidewalks
with
trees.
E
It
makes
a
huge
difference
and
I
feel,
like
this
development
is
kind
of
a
once
in
a
lifetime
opportunity
for
that
part
of
the
roadway,
and
it's
really
important
to
actually
consider
that
sidewalk
and
amenity,
and
not
just
an
afterthought
it'll,
make
a
huge
difference
for
everybody.
The
sidewalks
in
englewood
are
typically
pretty
sad,
and
so
I
realize
anything
is
going
to
be
better
than
what
we've
got,
however,
considering
including
that
buffer
with
trees
or
even
just
a
buffer
would
be
a
huge
upgrade,
and
just
thank
you
for
your
time.
I
Okay,
now
that
we
have
heard
from
the
public
is
there.
O
Okay,
I
apologize-
I
didn't
think
of
this
earlier
and
I'm
totally
digging
up
the
dinosaur
here,
but
with
this
proposal
then
at
one
time
there
was
the
proposal
for
the
bates
rtd
station
potential
station.
J
Sure,
kate,
this
is
bryant
winslow
kate.
This
is
brian
winslow.
I'm
happy
to
answer
that
question.
There
was
at
one
point
an
intergovernmental
agreement
between
the
city
of
inglewood
and
rtd
to
put
a
light
rail
station,
basically
on
our
property
along
baits
that
stretched
back
to
the
south
450
feet.
J
J
The
winslow
family
certainly
couldn't
pay
for
that.
Our
td
couldn't
pay
for
it
and
the
city
couldn't
die
there,
and
so
I
believe
that
that
plan
has
has
really
just
been
scrapped
due
to
the
cost.
A
lot
of
the
cost
was
associated
with
the
fact
that
the
heavy
rail
and
the
light
rail
are
pretty
close
in
that
area
and
the
light
rail
also
has
a
spur
that
goes
into
the
maintenance
facility,
north
of
the
old
general
ironside
or
or
excuse
me,
the
foundry
or
I
apologize
again.
J
I
believe
it's
called
the
ironworks
now
and
there
was
going
to
have
to
be
a
platform
built
over
that
track
to
get
pedestrians
from
grade
up
and
over
that
light,
rail
spur
and
then
back
down
to
the
platform
and
rtd
wanted
to
keep
that
platform
open
north
of
220
days
a
year.
So
that
was
going
to
force
construction
work
to
take
place
on
weekends
and
and
late
at
night
into
the
early
morning.
J
It
just
it
got
to
the
point
where
it
was.
It
was
too
expensive,
and
you
know
it
was
certainly
while
it
would
have
been
nice,
I
think,
maybe
for
the
community
and
for
our
site.
I
think
the
costs
were
just
too
prohibitive
and
you
couple
that
with
the
fact
that
it's
only
a
quarter
mile
north
of
the
englewood
city
center
stop
and
the
train
wouldn't
even
be
able
to
get
up
to
speed
before
it
would
be
required
to
stop
again.
So
it
was
going
to
really.
J
M
C
C
C
I
Okay,
just
out
of
curiosity
staff,
do
you
have
do
you
recall
how
large
the
garages
are
at
ironworks.
I
N
I
jumped
in
I
I
would
just
stay.
I
would
just
state
that,
in
my
experience,
a
10
by
20
spot
should
sufficiently
fit
the
majority
of
residential
homeowners
vehicles.
Is
it
going
to
fit?
You
know
their
loader?
That's
gonna,
you
know
truck
a
bunch
of
stuff
here
and
there
I
don't
know
it's.
It's
not
gonna,
do
an
asphalt
roller
or
something,
but
I
think
for
the
majority
of
residential
applications
that
it
should
be
more
than
sufficient.
I
Thank
you.
I
guess
now
is
the
time
to
ask
the
applicant
or
staff
if
they
have
a
final
statement.
C
Yeah,
I
would
just
close
by
again
saying
thank
you
to
everybody.
For
for
the
time,
we
appreciate
the
thoughtful
comments.
I
do
suggestions
all
those
things
that
we've
talked
about
so
appreciate
everybody's
time.
We
can't
say
it
enough:
we're
really
excited
about
the
project
and
appreciate
everybody's
thought
and
attention
and
detail,
as
we've
worked
through
things.
I
Well,
I
appreciate
that
brett
and
I
think
from
the
activity
and
the
questions
from
the
commission
that
this
is
not
only
has
the
commission
done
very
good
work
and
taking
a
hard
look
at
all
of
this.
But
it
looks
like
it's
a
very
well
thought
out
project,
and
so
we
will
without
hearing
any
other
objections.
Is
it
time
now
for
us
to
call
for
a
motion
to
close
the
public
hearing.
O
N
I
Right
nancy,
can
you
call
the
vote.
A
E
I
B
And
chair
back
and
chair
austin,
yes,.
I
All
right
so
now,
I
believe
we
need
a
motion
and
a
second
on
the
case
recommendation.
Do
I
need
to
what
do
I
need
to
do
here?
Nancy.
Do
I
need
to
re
state
the
case.
B
G
I'll
go
ahead
and
make
the
motion
to
recommend
to
city
council.
G
I
believe
the
administration
approval
of
minor
subdivision,
plat
and
filing
with
the
repo
county
dedication
of
the
10-foot
public
trail
easements
for
future
construction
of
ingwood
rail
trail
and
approval
by
city
council,
of
a
memorandum
of
understanding
for
future
real
future
construction
considerations,
approval
of
right-of-way
vacation
requests
for
a
portion
of
west
cornell
avenue,
south
huron
street
in
a
16-foot
public
alley
and
removal
of
the
existing
monolithic
rollover,
curb
gutter
and
three
foot
sidewalk,
with
replacement
with
a
six
inch
vertical,
curb
gutter.
G
Six
foot
sidewalk
in
accordance
with
current
city
standards
requirement,
includes
matching
grades
from
existing
new
back
of
walk
to
existing
surfaces
along
the
entirety
of
galapagos
street,
including
across
the
properties
located
outside
of
the
project
that
have
frontage
on
galapagos.
G
G
I
Every
and
diane
too
everybody,
okay,
okay,
daryl.
A
Yeah,
I
think,
there's
quite
a
few
things
that
came
up
that
we
need
to
really
discuss
with
this.
Like
you
know,
obviously,
it's
been
quite
a
while
we've
had
you
know
public
hearing,
but
we
have
had
some
in
the
past
and
you
know
some
things
have
come
up
that
that
we
didn't
anticipate
in
terms
of
some
of
the
issues
that
have
been
brought
up.
I
mean
sidewalks
have
been
brought
up
by
many
people.
A
You
know,
I
think
we
need
to
look
further
at
that.
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
the
lack
of
green
space.
A
I
think
we
need
to
further
look
at
traffic.
I
do
you
know.
I
think
we
need
to
take
advantage
of
that.
We
have
a
really
good
developer
here.
That
sounds
like
really
wants
to
work
with
the
city,
and
I
think
we
need
to
make
it
work
for
the
city
and
for
him,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
things
we
need
to
discuss
here,
and
you
know
those
are
some
of
the
issues.
A
E
N
I
just
want
to
echo
daryl's
concerns.
I
think
I
would
strongly
recommend
looking
at
the
at
the
sidewalk
condition.
I
think
we
heard
from
a
resident
that
echoes
that
concern.
N
Possibilities
for
making
more
green
space-
and
I
think
that
at
least
from
my
perspective,
I
see
no
issue
with
the
vacation
requests.
Certainly
the
entire
project
is
contingent
upon
the
approval
of
those,
and
it
seems
that
the
public
trail
easement
is
a
is
a
very
good
in-kind.
I
O
Thanks,
I
guess
some
of
the
things
that
would
be
great
to
hear
from
from
diane
or
daryl
would
be
what
kinds
of
amendments
you
may
be
looking
for
in
terms
of
increasing
green
space
or
changes
to
to
the
sidewalk.
I
I
have.
This
is
a
really
weird
thing
for
me
to
say,
because
I
am
normally
all
about
reducing
parking
as
much
as
possible,
especially
in
such
close
proximity
to
the
light
rail
station.
O
I
will
say,
with
the
interesting
shape
of
this
site
and
the
limited
amount
of
places
where
you
can
access
the
site
and
be
able
to
access
like
on-street
parking.
It's
it's
not
within
a
grid
where
you
can,
you
know
park
in
and
out
of
the
site
easily.
That
gives
me
some
concern
in
terms
of
trying
to
further
reduce
the
parking
requirement
that
they
have
and
I'm
I'm
wondering
too.
O
I
think
it's
great
that
they
have
the
rail
trail
easement
and
that's
going
to
be
a
huge
benefit
for
many
people
within
the
development,
as
well
as
beyond
the
development
and
I'm
trying
to
think
of
what
would
be
other
additions
to
green
space.
That
would
be
usable
space
within
the
site,
so
I'd
love
to
hear
what
your
your
thoughts
are
on
that
how
we
could
incorporate
either
some
additions
with
green
space
or
what
your,
what
your
thoughts
are.
M
Overall,
I
really
like
the
you
know
what
you
described
as
you
know,
putting
the
garages
facing
internally.
I
think,
that's
a
huge,
a
huge
thing
for
quality
of
life
of
the
of
the
neighbors
around
the
attention
on
light
pollution,
I
also
think
is,
is
a
really
great
thing,
having
lived
across
from
many
a
a
building
that
did
not
observe
anything
about
light
pollution,
and
so
I
think
that's
a
really
huge
benefit.
M
I
like
the
electric
car
charging
spots,
I
would
say,
run
conduit
to
as
in
front
of
as
many
of
the
buildings
as
possible.
Now
you
know
people
as
to
whether
they
will
walk
the
extra
three
minutes
to
park
an
electric
charging
spot.
I
know
it
sounds
kind
of
silly,
but
you
know
make
it
as
easy
as
possible
for
people
to
to
to
charge
their
electric
cars
and
yeah.
Then
the
things
that
paw
that
came
up
you
know
that
the
public
also
brought
up
around
sidewalks.
M
You
know
I
did
notice
in
the
packet
there
was
a
request
about
waving
the
waiver
for
the
sidewalk
on
galapagos.
Sorry,
I
pronounced
someone
wrong
every
time.
So
just
some
some,
you
know
clarity
on
on
that,
because
it
sounds
like
this
motion
is
saying
that
that
would
have
to
be
you.
M
To
be
changed
so
just
some
some
understanding
around
that
and
and
a
parking
study
of
that
actual
usage,
I
think
that's
more
useful
than
what
they're
doing
in
lone
tree
or
lakewood
or
anywhere
else.
You
know
if
we
can
look
a
few
a
few
hundred
feet
away
and
for
reference,
a
2024
f-150
is
six
foot
eight
inches
wide.
Once
you
include
the
mirrors,
it
is
eight
feet
wide,
so
in
a
10
foot
garage
it
might
be
a
little
bit
squishy.
B
A
Yeah,
I
I
think
that
you
know
I
I
I
really
think
like
I
said
I
probably
the
way
that
we've
addressed
this
sort
of
thing
in
the
past
is
just
you
know.
If
we
do
think
this
is
a
development
that
that
should
move
forward,
and
I
think
you
know
it
definitely
meets
needs.
Housing
needs
that
we
have.
But
I
do
have
concerns
because,
like
you
know,
I
live
but
down
by
the
oxford
apartments
which
we
approved.
A
I
don't
know
how
many
years
ago-
and
you
know
they
have
a
huge
parking
issue
there,
because
people
park
on
the
street
because
I
think
they
charge
for
all
the
spaces.
So
I
was
glad
to
hear
that
the
only
plans
charge
for
the
garages
and
people
will
have
space
to
park
in
the
development
of
assuming
there's
enough
spaces,
and
I
think
obviously
we
need
to
make
sure
that's
the
case.
It's
a
very
tricky,
tricky
parking
balance.
A
You
know
a
lot
of
us
would
like
to
see
less
parking,
but
then
on
there
we
don't
want
less
parking,
and
then
people
have
three
cars
and
they're.
You
know,
or
two
even
two
cars
in
our
parking
on
the
street
and
causing
a
problem.
So
I
I
think,
like
I
said
this
is
a
good
good
and
thoughtful
development
that
we
want
to
move
forward.
But
we
really
need
to
think
about
some
of
these
other
things
with
the
the
sidewalks
and
the
the
green
space
and
parking
issues
that
have
been
mentioned.
A
F
Thank
you
for
letting
me
interrupt
and
jump
in
here
as
we're
as
we're
going
through
this
conversation
right
now,
I'm
I'm
going
to
encourage
the
commission
members
to
try
to
be
as
specific
as
we
can
with
what
you
want.
The
recommendation
to
be.
F
I'm
just
trying
to
avoid
sort
of
getting
this
project
kicked
back
to
planning
commission
at
a
future
date
like
we've
seen
previously.
So
if
everybody
can
think
you
know
about
what
it
is,
you
would
like
to
have
looked
at
further.
You
know
we're
talking
about
detached
versus
attached.
Sidewalks.
F
What
other
information,
specifically
that's
not
already
in
a
traffic
study
that
the
applicant
has
done?
Are
you
looking
for
just
so?
We
have
as
much
clarity
for
the
applicant,
but
also
us
as
we
move
forward
with
the
recommendation
to
city
council.
So
thank
you.
Enough
said
how
I'll
stop
talking
now.
A
Thank
you
wade,
wait.
I
just
wanted
to
say
I
think
that's.
You
know
very
very
good
point
that
you
know
and
that's
why
I
was
saying
that
we
should
ask
for
specifics,
but
I
do
think
that
you
know
even
just
having
this
conversation
is
going
to
you
know.
I
know
city
council
listens
to
this
and
I
think
you
know
just
having
this
conversation
will
bring
up
the
issue.
A
A
To
do
detached,
sidewalks
have
been
mentioned
by
many
people
versus
attach,
and
I
know
obviously
there's
a
lot
of
challenges
with
that:
the
cost
and
the
space,
and
just
if
there's
a
way
that
we
can
mutually
work
together
between
the
city
and
the
developer,
to
make
that
work
out
in
a
way
that,
because
it
does
make
a
difference,
as
was
pointed
out
by
the
comment
from
the
person
that
spoke
that
lives,
I
believe
in
general
ironworks
about
how
much
of
a
difference
that
that
kind
of
design
with
the
sidewalk
makes.
N
I
would
say
that,
as
far
as
the
sidewalks
minimally,
a
separated
sidewalk
in
the
public
realm,
there's
probably
some
opportunities
for
for
that
internally,
but
I
think
from
the
city's
perspective,
it's
more
meaningful
to
do
that
in
the
public
realm.
N
I
think
that
it
would
be
nice
for
residents
as
well,
and
I
think
that
the
comments,
at
least
from
my
perspective,
with
regards
to
the
amount
of
parking
and
the
amount
of
of
what
is
called
open
space
versus
what
is
green
space
is,
just
you
know,
circulating
between,
say,
building,
six
and
building
in
the
clubhouse
or
something
I
can
see
that
you
know
the
cow
path
will
certainly
be
to
walk
along
the
parking
lot
all
the
way
to
the
clubhouse.
D
N
Effect,
it's
about
you
know
water
permeability.
Certainly
there's
there
seems
to
be
adequate.
I'm
not
I'm
not
a
storm
water
engineer,
but
there
seems
to
be
adequate
measures
for
that.
But
I
suppose
my
recommendation
would
be
about
the
sidewalk
having
a
minimally
five
foot
wide,
possibly
six
foot
wide
walk
with
a
five
foot
wide
minimum
tree
lawn
in
the
public
right-of-way
and
then,
as
noel
suggested,
reviewing
close
by
projects
for
parking.
I
Ratios,
do
I
hear
any
proposed
additional
language
to
be
added
to
the
motion
in
front
of
us.
N
B
O
I
feel
really
weird
saying
this:
I
I
think
in
the
language
we
have,
it
is
per
the
per
our
development
code
and
I
would
feel
more
comfortable
staying
with
that.
Instead
of
saying
it
has
to
be
exactly
this
much
of
a
detached
sidewalk,
we
do
have
detached
sidewalks
that
are
in
the
development
code,
with
bicycle
and
pedestrian
connectivity
for
different
kinds
of
streets,
so
in
my
thought,
it
should
already
be
covered
because
we
have
it
in
there.
So,
whatever
you
all
think
about
that,
I'm
all
for
a
detached
sidewalk.
O
I
want
that
condition.
Looking
at
the
street,
there
doesn't
seem
to
be
a
ton
of
space
in
the
right
of
way,
as
well
as
if
it's
already
going
into
where
those
private
property
owners
are
at.
So
I
would
also
want
to
be
careful
that
we're
not
creating
too
much
constriction
and
what
the
city
can
do
by
saying
something
that
would
be
either
different
than
what
we
already
have
in
the
code,
and
I
don't
know
if
wade
or
a
few
have
any
thoughts
on
that
or.
F
We'll
have
to
be
careful
if
we
ask
or
require
a
a
detached
sidewalk
that
we
might
be
looking
at
something
like
10
feet
and
that
would
be
getting
into
purchasing
property
from
those
owners
it
would
be
outside
of
the
existing
right-of-way.
So.
F
But
I'm
not
disagreeing
with
you
know
the
thoughts
behind
that.
I
don't
know
necessarily
that
the
logistics
would
permit
a
continuous
detached
sidewalk
along
that
entire
length,
just
because
of
space
constraints.
N
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
a
it's
a
good
point
wade.
It
would
be
certainly
difficult
to
negotiate
that.
I
I
would
ask
the
other
commissioners
if
they
have
other
thoughts
on
that
too,
whether
having
two
different.
I
Well,
I'm
thinking
that
along
wade's
line
is
that
we
really
probably
need
to
consider
only
the
property
before
us
and
not
the
additional
people.
Homeowners
along
galipago
is
that
right
wade.
B
F
F
Do
some
sort
of
road
diet
there
where
we
can
take
up
a
little
more
actual
roadway
for
enhanced
sidewalks?
You
know,
that's
something
I
you
know.
I
just
don't
know.
I'd
have
to
talk
with
the
development
team
and
and
our
public
works
to
see
what
would
work
there,
but
I
would
suggest
that
we
we
not
get
into
a
situation
where
we're
purchasing
property
from
from
those
single-family
residents.
N
Nancy,
could
you
clarify
for
me?
Could
we
suggest
that
it
is
looked
into
as
part
of
this
I
mean
I
wouldn't
want
this
to
hold
it
up
or
anything
like
that.
That's
not
my
intent.
My
intent
is
more.
Can
we
investigate
whether
this
is
possible
because
I
agree
wade?
I
don't
know
what
the
road
section
is.
I
asked
you
know
it's
hard
to
tell
what
the
right-of-way
is.
So
I
guess
I
would
leave
that
as
a
as
a
note
to
you
or
a
question.
F
Yeah-
and
I
I
agree,
I
think
that's
a
very
reasonable
condition
as
if
we,
if
we
investigate
it
and
and
come
up
with
an
answer,
whether
that's
possible
or
not,
and
report
that
at
city
council.
I
think
that's
fair.
B
But
miss
townley
made
them
seconded
the
motion.
She
did
not
accept
it.
A
Condition
so
could
we
tweak
the
the
motion
and
maybe
that
it
would
be
acceptable
to
to
kate
and
then
move
forward
with.
A
Well,
actually,
what
I
was
thinking
of
is
you
know.
The
considerations
that
were
mentioned
is
maybe
we
could
just
add
a
few
words
saying
basically
detach
sidewalk,
where
you
know.
Where
is
where
it's
doable
kind
of
a
thing?
I
don't
know
what,
how
we'd
want
to
phrase
that,
but
we
just
add
a
few
words
and
it
would
be
a
lot
less
of
an
imposition
and
would
would
allow
for
certain
places
where
a
detached
sidewalk
just
really
wouldn't
work.
A
O
I
guess
my
thought
would
be
is
that,
if
in,
if
in
our
code
right
now
that
we
have
that
you
are
supposed
to
have
detached
sidewalks
and
it's
1665
c
one
and
two
detached
separated,
sidewalks,
meeting
city
design
and
construction
standards
shall
be
installed
along
all
local
collector
and
arterial
street
arterial,
streets
and
sidewalks
shall
be
detached
from
the
curb
at
least
six
feet
to
allow
for
a
landscape
planting
strip
between
the
right-of-way
edge
and
the
sidewalk,
except
for
transitions
at
street
intersections
where
sidewalks
shall
be
attached.
O
And-
and
maybe
we
could
put
something
just
in
reference-
that
in
the
motion
as
a
sort
of
an
expectation
with
that
allowance
for
more
investigation
between
now
and
in
the
council
meeting.
I
I
So
we're
not
actually
committing
the
city
to
changing
the
sidewalk
in
front
of
those
residences.
We're
just
talking
specifically
to
this
project.
B
I'm
not
sure
dugan's
gonna
have
to
speak
in
on
this.
I'm
not
sure
if
the
applicants
can
speak
at
this
point.
Okay,
you're
right,
but
that's
a.
E
F
And
I
I
do
think
I
don't.
I
think
I
may
have
misunderstood
you
michelle.
The
sidewalk
would
be
required
to
be
in
front
of
the
residents.
G
I
guess
the
the
the
question
is:
the
sidewalk
should
be
detached
per
the
code,
for
any
new
development
of
more
than
four
units
should
be
detached
per
the
the
section
that
kate
townley
was
referring
to
16-6x5
detached
sidewalks
for
anything
that
has
four
more
dwelling
units,
but
right
in
front
of
the
existing
homes.
I
think
that
would
be
acceptable
to
be
an
attached
sidewalk,
which
increases
the
three
foot
to
a
six
foot.
G
At
least
it
makes
it
a
more
connected
surface
without
having
to
go
into
into
their
properties
any
any
further.
But
the
way
I
had
stated
the
original
was
to
include
that
entire
length
of
galipago
or
galapagos.
G
The
entire
stretch
of
galapagos
will
have
a
six
foot
sidewalk,
I
believe,
in
front
of
the
new
development.
It
should
be
separated
for
the
code
as
it
currently
is,
and
then
in
the
existing
areas,
it
should
be
attached
to
reflect
an
improvement
over
what
is
there
now.
G
Okay,
so
they
have
another
chance
to
talk.
It's
just
not
in
this
specific
hearing
to
be
able
to
kind.
F
On
the
on
the
property
in
the
current
building
layout,
if
for
an
attached
sidewalk
again,
I
it's
just
something
we
would
need
to
look
into.
So
if
we
can
formulate
something
that
says
further
research,
I
you
know
I
I
I
like
what
commissioner
townley
is
saying.
You
know,
follow
the
city's
design
standards.
O
N
A
O
I
A
Yeah,
I
was
just
going
to
say
just
the
fact
that
we're
having
this
extensive
discussion
with
that
is
going
to
you
know,
bring
the
point
home
whether
we
have
the
amendment
or
not,
but
but
just
just
the
the
mention
that
I
think
you
came
up
with.
A
I
would
be
quite
sufficient
and
you
know
to
in
in
looking
at
the
specific
issue,
so
I
think
the
question
I
would
have
is
do
we
want
to
look
more
at
the
issue
that
you
brought
up,
which
is
you
know
how
much
open
space
is
really
there.
You
know
over
green
space,
usable
open
space,
or
it's
just.
A
You
know
that
that
that
whole
thing
and
then
obviously
the
much
more
challenging
issue
of
that
we
mentioned
of
the
of
figuring
out
the
parking
and
the
traffic
issues
which
which
are
significant
and
hard
to
predict.
But
we
really
you
know,
we
don't
want
to
get
into
a
situation
where
we're
we're.
Looking
back
at
it
and
saying
you
know,
if
we
just
looked
at
a
little
more,
we
could
have
avoided
this
situation
that
we
end
up
with
down
the
road.
No,
no
pun
intended.
G
I'd
like
to
add-
maybe
two
more
things
to
that
that
would,
I
think,
follow
what
daryl
was
saying.
I
think
that's
approval
of
the
traffic
study,
because
there
are
still
outstanding
comments
on
that
and
so
acceptance
by
the
city
of
that
study
and
and
those
final
results
and
also
the
the
drainage
and
water
quality
report
that
would
also
be
associated.
G
You
know,
there's
a
draft
one,
but
acceptance
and
approval
of
those
items
I
think,
would
would
that
cover
you
darryl
or
do
you
want
to
even
see
a
little
more
than
that.
A
Yeah,
no,
I
I
think,
like
I
said,
just
just
bringing
it
up
and
having
discussion,
and
I
know
we've
got
good
counsel.
People
that'll,
look
into
this
in
more
depth
as
well
and,
like
I
said,
we
have
a
good
developer
to
work
with,
that's
obviously
very
invested
in
inglewood
and
that
that's
that's
a
huge
thing
so
yeah.
I
would.
G
So
I
would
recommend
the
amendment
being
to
review
the
sidewalk
standards
per
city
standards
or
for
the
city,
development
code,
zoning
regulations
and
to
include
an
approved
traffic
study
and
the
comments
being
addressed
and
as
well
as
an
improved
drainage
and
water
quality
study.
And
as
an
amendment
to
my
original.
B
Mr
hagerty
made
the
original
motion.
He
has
just
suggested
some
amendments,
and
so
now
I'm
looking
to
ms
townley
to
see
if
she
accepts
those
amendments
he
made.
O
I'm
just
being
difficult
tonight
colin:
can
you
just
elaborate
a
little
bit
more
on
what
you're
looking
for
in
terms
of
an
update
or
some
sort
of
change
with
the
water
quality
study.
G
B
G
G
G
Okay,
I
will
try
to
repeat
it
to
the
best
of
my
ability
that
the
amendment
to
the
original
motion
is
to
review
sidewalks
to
ensure
conformance
per
city.
F
G
I
would
assume
that
there
would
have
to
be
a
final
drainage
study
weight
and,
if
I
overstepped
on
that,
I
can
adjust
that
that
context.
F
There
will
be
a
final
drainage
study
required.
Typically,
we
receive
those
at
building
permit,
review
and
and
get
finalization
and
approval
for
the
final
at
building
permit
stage.
G
F
G
F
G
Because
there
are
comments
in
there
that
you
guys
have
said
you
be
in
the
city
that
you'll
want
to
address
some
of
those
final
landscaping
items.
I
think
those
are
all
questions
that
you
know
that
we're
interested
in.
I
don't
know
that
we
have
the
you
know
the
right
to
decide
those,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
they
are
following.
You
know
what
what
we're
all
here
to
be
doing,
which
is
in
you
know,
enforcing
our
zoning
criteria
fairly.
G
So
I
guess
I
I
will
amend
that
to
acceptance
of
the
preliminary
jiren's
report
has
already
happened.
Is
that
what
you're
saying
wait.
G
Okay,
I
will
remove
that
condition.
Then,
since
that
is
accepted,
I
thought
you
had
said
that
that
was
submitted.
It
wasn't
accepted
or
it
hadn't
been
approved.
Yet
so
I
apologize
for
that.
I
will
adjust
the
amendment
to
say:
review
of
the
sidewalks
to
meet
the
criteria
of
title
16
zoning
regulations,
criteria
and
then
to
have
an
accepted
traffic
study
that
addresses
all
the
city's.
O
Comments,
I
just
had
a
point
of
clarification
within
that
when
you're
saying
review
of
the
sidewalks
you're
just
speaking
to,
is
it
number
four
the
galapagos
or
galapagos
sidewalk?
Or
are
you
saying
all
sidewalks.
G
I
O
Again,
I
was
just
going
to
say
to
be
clear:
I
think
that
within
the
city
code
or
within
that
our
development
code,
the
detached
sidewalks
would
be
for
the
street
so
for
the
public
right-of-way
area.
So
I
think
we
would
either
have
to
add
something
if
you're
looking
to
add
something
around
the
interior.
O
That
has
you
know
sidewalks.
I
think
that
would
be
a
different
point,
so
I
just
wanted
to
be
clear
on
that.
G
E
G
My
thought
would
be
that
it
would
be
to
the
whatever
that
city
requirement
is,
and
so
I
don't
know
that
I
necessarily
have
to
I'm
just
thinking.
You
know
to
make
it
simpler,
I'm
not
trying
to
specify
inside
or
outside,
so
whatever
the
city
code
would
be.
I
think,
hopefully
that
helps
clarify
it.
I
guess
I
didn't
cause
any
trouble
on
that
one.
So
yeah.
B
F
G
Wait,
that
is
something
that
you
all
review
right
and
there's
calculations
that
are
are
included
and
and
that's
approved
and
accepted
by
users,
and
I
would
assume,
along
the
same
lines
of
the
final
landscaping
type
of
items.
I
I
had
questions
of
whether
that
was
included
in
that
package
reviewed
if
you're
saying
that
you've
reviewed
it
insected
it.
I'm
I'm
personally.
Okay
with
that.
If,
if
other
people
had
thoughts
on
that,
I'm
okay
to
listen
to.
I
E
I
G
Give
me
10
seconds
here,
okay,
so
I
am
moving
to
recommend
case.
G
Z0N2020-001
that
the
development
is
approved
with
the
following
conditions:
administration,
administrative
approval
of
the
minor
subdivision,
plat
and
filing
with
arapahoe
county
dedication
of
a
10-foot
public
trail
easement
for
future
construction
of
the
ingwood
rail
trail
and
approval
by
city
council
of
a
memorandum
of
understanding
for
future
construction.
Approval
of
right-of-way
vacation
requests
for
a
portion
of
west
cornell
avenue
south
huron
street
in
the
16-foot
public
alley.
G
Removal.
I'm
going
to
modify
this
to
review
of
the
proposed
sidewalk
conditions
that
they
meet
the
standards
of
the
city's
title
16.
Zoning
regulations,
which
would
consist
of
removal
of
the
existing
sidewalk
and
replacement
with
a
six-foot
sidewalk,
either
attached
or
detached
depending
on
the
location
along
galapagos
galapagos
and
then
the
addition
of
responses
and
acceptance
of
the
traffic
study
by
the
city
and
that
all
the
comments
to
the
traffic
study
have
been
addressed
to
the
satisfaction
of
the
city.
I
Therefore
nancy,
can
you
call
the
vote
please?
I
will
miss
townley.
O
Although,
yes,
I
think
that
this
proposal
will
help
increase
our
variety
and
types
of
housing
within
the
city,
and
I
think
the
density
is
appropriate
for
the
location,
with
it
being
close
to
existing
light
rail
stations
that
the
open
space
requirement,
which
is
something
I'm
always
a
big
stickler
on.
I
I
think,
is
definitely
being
met
and
I
appreciate
the
dedication
or
the
easements
for
the
rail
trail
project
and
I
think
that
will
be
a
benefit
for
many
people
in
the
community.
O
A
I
will
vote
yes
also
because
housing
is
definitely
the
number
one
need
in
inglewood,
and
I
think
this
is
you
know,
will
provide
the
necessary
housing.
I
also
agree
for
the
reasons
that
kate,
so
eloquently
stated
and
also
you
know.
A
I
think
it's
important
to
take
advantage
of
the
fact
that
this
is
a
developer
that
is
invested
at
inglewood
and
wants
to
work
for
the
betterment
of
the
city,
and
for
that
reason,
with
the
considerations
that
we've
added
to
it,
I
I
would
definitely
approve
it
and
and
hopefully
that
the
rail
trail
will
be
connected
sooner
rather
than
later,
as
that
would
be
very
important
piece
of
this
project
that
will
make
it
work
so
much
better.
A
G
M
H
It
seems
to
be
a
well
thought
out
design
of
the
property
there,
and
I
think
they
have
a
good
intention
on
keeping
it
as
a
addition
to
inglewood
and
not
something
that
anger
was
going
to
regret.
So
I
believe
I
believe
it's
a
good
good
move.
B
And
chair
austin.
I
I
vote
yes
as
well
for
the
reasons
that
were
have
been
outlined
by
the
previously,
but
previously
by
the
commissioners.
I
think
that
it
is
as
kate
townley
or
commissioner
county
pointed
out.
It
is
a
very
unusual
design,
unusual
site
design
and
that
what
has
been
put
before
us
does
accomplish
what's
needed.
I
I
also
would
like
to
comment
that
those
people
who
are
on
the
west
side
are
going
to
have
some
fabulous
views
of
the
mountains,
because
that
property
is
raised
up
over
santa
fe
and
and
that
and
if,
if
they're
trained
lovers,
it's
going
to
be
especially
attractive
to
them.
So
I
vote
yes.
I
I
I
H
This
this
project
may
put
a
little
bit
of
pressure
on
the
dartmouth
bridge,
getting
that
built
a
little
sooner
than
then
later.
But
currently,
the
oxford
bridge
is
the
priority
and
that's
going
to
take
a
while.
So
hopefully
we
can
get
the
dartmouth
bridge,
built
and
that'll
be
a
big
big
addition
for
this
project.
I
All
right,
colin.
G
I
do
have
a
request
for
a
point
of
information
not
for
tonight,
but
maybe
for
the
next
meeting.
Why
is
part
of
centennial
always
considered
inglewood.
G
Is
that
all
postal
service,
because
it's
okay-
I
I
don't
know
how
many
times
I
have
to
argue
that
that
part
of
the
tech
center
is
not
actually
inglewood
and
bring
up
maps
to
show
that
it's
not
inglewood
and
still
get
argued
with
the
fact
that
it's
called
out
of
zinglewood.
So
if
that's
actually
the
reason,
thank
you
that's
all.
I
need
to
know
so.
Thank
you.
I
I
A
Sorry,
can
you
hear
me
now?
Yes,
yeah,
just
it's
a
very
long
conversation
another
night
about
why
and
you
know
that
inglewood
is
called
the
the
area
because
it
used
to
be
pretty
predates
centennial's
existence
anyway,
but
that's
a
long
conversation,
but
nevertheless
I
did
want
to
mention
that
we
had
a
hearing
a
few
weeks
back
ago
now
about
a
street
vacation
that
actually
you
went
through
the
second
reading
on
city
council
and
we
could
talk
about
that
at
our
next
meeting.
A
But
I
did
want
to
mention
that
that
city
council
did
actually
ultimately
have
go,
went
through
a
second
reading
last
night
and
approved
that
that's
the
vacation
of
that
street.
So
I
did
want
to
just
mention
that
and
of
course
it's
all
in
living,
color
everything's
on
youtube.
You
know
these
days,
but
it's
readily
available,
but
I
did
want
to
make
sure
that
that
that
that
was
of
no,
if
I'm
sure
weight
is
well
aware,
but
that's
it
for
me.
I
know
it's
late.
A
I
Well
and
if
any
of
the
commissioners
would
like
to
choose
to
become
a
city
council
member,
they
have
that
ability
to
do
so
in
their
future
to
stay
later,
if
they
want
so
well.
Thank
you,
but
thank
you
for
the
update
darryl.