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A
A
I
can't
hear
you
so
I
may
have
to
log
off
and
log
back
in
so
I
apologize
for
that.
I
don't
think
anybody
was
talking
michelle.
Can
you
hear
me?
No?
No!
I
can
yes,
okay,
great!
Thank
you.
I
think
we
were
just
all
being
quiet.
Okay,.
G
F
So
hi
everybody.
How
is
everybody
tonight
ready
for
ready
for
the
meeting.
B
F
So
I
wanted
to
start
out
tonight.
I
think
we
have
a
few
people
joining
us
tonight
that
what
were
not
able
to
make
it
the
first
night
two
weeks
ago,
so
I
wanted
to
put
them
on
the
spot
right
away.
If
you
will
and
just
give
a
quick
introduction-
and
I
will
start
with
diane
diane-
you
missed
last
meeting.
So
if
you
just
give
us
a
introduction-
and
that
would
be
great.
H
Just
who
I
am
yep,
I'm
diane
laposky,
I'm
on
the
planning
commission
and
I
nope.
Thank
you,
water.
I
am
a
landscape
architect
and
I've
lived
in
englewood
for
the
last
six
or
seven
years
and
have
enjoyed
being
here.
F
Excellent,
thank
you
and
we'll
we'll
all
get
to
know
each
other
better
as
we
get
further
into
this,
but
just
wanted
to
make
sure
everybody
got
a
chance
to
introduce.
We
also
have
on
the
call
tonight
dugan
comer
dugan.
You
just
give
a
brief
introduction.
F
F
Englewood
and
I've
been
here
for
about
20
plus
seven
years-
something
like
that
so
here
I
am
thank
you
and
I
believe
the
other
one
that
is
for
joining
us
for
the
first
time
this
evening
is
matt
ashby
from
our
consulting
team,
so
matt
you
want
to
give
us
a
brief
introduction.
E
Yeah
sure,
from
the
front
seat
of
my
car,
I'm
in
between
different
meetings
and
had
to
find
a
landing
spot
at
a
local
park.
So
my
name's
matt
ashby,
I'm
with
a
company
called
ayers
associates
and
as
part
of
the
consulting
team.
E
My
role
is
to
really
help
you
all
to
navigate
the
questions
that
you
have
make
sure
that
we've
got
good
learning
opportunities
to
explore
any
topics
deeper,
that
you're
you're
interested
in
finding
out
more
information
about
and
really
just
kind
of,
managing
the
big
picture
of
the
overall
code
approval
so
that
chris
and
and
graham
from
gould
evans,
are
able
to
kind
of
manage
the
details.
E
F
If
you
remember
two
weeks
ago,
we
decided
that
we
would
I'll
take
a
look
a
little
more
closely
at
chapters
one
and
two
of
the
unified
development
code,
and
so
you
know
we
wanted
to
leave
the
bulk
of
the
meeting
this
evening
to
get
everybody's
thoughts
and
perspectives
on
those
first,
two
chapters,
the
first
two
chapters
really
do
set
the
stage
pretty
well
for
the
entire
rest
of
the
document.
F
Chapter
one
is,
is
just
a
lot
of
the
legalities
of
of
the
code,
but
chapter
2
has
quite
a
bit
of
information
in
it
with
regard
to
processes,
the
applications
that
the
community
development
department
and
the
planning
staff
work
with
what
we
issue
to
residents
all
the
way
from
you
know
certain
accessory
permits,
such
as
you
know,
sheds
fences
that
sort
of
sort
of
thing
all
the
way
up
to
plan
unit
developments,
which
are
the
larger
negotiated.
F
Zoning
type
regulations
that
that
we
often
see
coming
through
that
require
both
city,
council
and
planning
and
zoning
commission
review
and
approval.
So
there
was
there's
a
lot
of
detail
in
in
chapter
two,
so
what
we'd
like
to
do
tonight?
You
have
the
entire
planning
staff
and
more
here
with
you
tonight,
so
we're
very
interested,
as
we
all
have
you
know,
varying
degrees
of
familiarity
with
with
the
code.
F
F
So
that's
something
we
also
have
that
we
can
rely
on
as
we
start
to
identify,
particularly
things
that
could
be
modernized
things
that
could
be
improved
about
chapters.
One
and
two-
and
you
know
starting
to
identify
those
changes
that
you
will
look
to
make
within
these
specific
chapters.
So
with
that
in
mind,
I
just
want
to
go
around
the
around
the
screen
here
and
just
get
some
feedback.
F
F
I'm
just
gonna
call
on
call
on
people.
I
will
start
with
kate
townley.
What
are
your
perspectives
on
chapters
one
and
two.
I
Of
course,
you
call
on
me
I
feel,
like
I
haven't
completed
all
my
homework.
I
didn't
have
any
major,
I
will
say
I
did
not
make
it
thoroughly
through
all
of
chapter
two.
I
didn't
have
really
any
suggestions
for
chapter
one
and
then
some
of
the
things.
I
I
guess
I
should
have
made
a
a
list
of
my
things
for
chapter
two,
but
a
lot
of
them
just
seem
to
be
kind
of
smaller
kind
of
edits
and
things
like
that.
I
It
might
be
better
to
go
to
the
next
person.
Come
back
to
me.
F
No
problem:
how
about
excuse
me?
Okay,
any
kind
of
questions
on
those
two
chapters.
H
F
Do
you
all
think
it
might
be
too
much
information
this
early
on
in
the
code?
F
F
G
Way
better
because
I
I
got
through
most
of
it
not
definitely
all
of
it
there's
a
ton
of
information
here.
One
of
the
things
that
jumped
out
was
the
tsa
description
and
whether
we
needed
to
continue
with
that
moving
forward,
because
it
seems
like
that's
kind
of
gone
away,
based
on
the
fact
that
we're
going
to
mub
one
with
city
center,
I'm
not
sure
if
that
still
applies
to
oxford
at
all
or
anything
like
that.
But
I
think
that
was
a
pud
also.
G
So
you
know
just
one
of
the
things
that
you
know
do
we
need
that
additional
zoning
at
this
point
was,
I
guess,
one
of
the
questions
that
I
had.
F
Right,
john
boberl,
do
you
want
to
give
a
quick
update
on
on
the
process
of
the
tsa
overlay
and
and
what's
happening
with
that
project?.
J
We
are
striking
out
all
references
to
tsa
as
a
base
zone
district,
and
so
of
course
now
you
see
them
now,
but
in
once
the
ordinance
is
becomes
law
in
30
days
or
then
the
code
company
will
make
all
those
changes
and
we'll
get
updates
to
the
code,
and
so
you
won't
see
tsa
anymore
it'll
just
be
it'll,
be
now
an
overlay.
F
Okay,
noel.
C
You
touched
on
it
a
bit
already,
but
I
you
know
my
question
would
be:
who
is
the
target
audience
because
the
you
know
16
1
and
16
2,
both
kind
of
dive
right
into
things
that
I'm
sure
a
very
small
audience
would
actually
need
to
use,
and
I
completely
stole
what
I'm
about
to
say.
Next,
it
possibly
was
from
you
wade,
but
you
know
the
more
that
the
more
people
who
will
want
information
make
that
easier
to
find.
C
So
you
know
I
see
the
first
chapter
as
being
you
know,
super
accessible,
you
know
a
way
for
people
to
get
to
the
places
they
want
to
go,
and
I
like
your
idea
of,
have
hyperlink
or
some
way
that
you
know
if
I
want
to
know
the
the
nitty-gritty
about
what
I
have
to
do
to
get
a
setback
changed
on
my
shed.
I
can
click
on
that,
as
opposed
to
having
to
dig
through
the
entire
the
entire
bit.
F
Right,
that's
that's
good
good
point.
We
yeah!
We
one
of
the
goals
is
to
make
this
a
lot
more
user-friendly.
So
that's
you
know
something
to
definitely
keep
in
mind
as
to
you
know
the
the
the
citizen
that
hasn't
had
any
look
into
this
document
and
and
how
overwhelming
it
can
be.
So
if
we
can,
we
can
streamline
things
that
way
that
that's
all
the
better
christine.
How
are
you.
B
Good
thanks
noel
said
it.
H
Best,
that's
a
lot
of
what
I
was
going
to
say.
So
thank
you,
and
I
was
also
looking
at
the
organization
of
the
whole
thing
and
not
just
what
is
in
each
chapter,
but
I
saw
that
in
the
assessment
report
there
was
a
proposed
outline
in
appendix
e,
so
I
wondered
if
we
would
kind
of
concurrently
take
a
look
at
that
and
see
what
they
had
suggested
might
be
in
chapter
one
and
chapter
two,
and
I
tried
to
do
the
crosswalk
between
the
two.
I
I
was
just
gonna
say
I
think,
especially
with
chapter
two
I
mean
it
does
jump
in
with
all
the
you
know,
all
the
different
review
approvals
and
processes,
but
some
of
the
things
it's
like
do.
People
know
what
these
different
things
are
like.
Where
do
we
have
either
definitions
or
how
would
they
know
to
start
there?
H
F
In
the
table
of
contents,
now
our
code
does
do
this.
If
you
look
at
muni,
wrap
or
unicode
online,
they
are
hyperlinked
already,
but
you
know
you
can
see,
there's
these
little
buttons
here
to
the
side
where,
if
you
want
to
look
at
what
the
parking
regulations
are,
you
can
just
click
there
and
it
takes
you
to
parking
and
loading.
So
I
think
this
is
a
really
good
feature
that
you
know
we
we
ought
to
look
into
and
then,
if
you.
C
F
Landscaping
questions
you
just
click
on
that
little
tree
and
it
takes
you
right
to
landscaping
and
tree
protection
in
centennial.
So
you
know
if
we
can
sort
of
start
thinking
about
that
sort
of
organization.
I
think
I
think
that'll
be
helpful
for
us
in
terms
of
user
friendliness
and
that
sort
of
thing
now
you
know
one
concern
that
I
I
want
to
throw
out
there
with.
F
That
is
that
you
know
this
potentially
might
create
things
that
such
as
broken
links
and
and
sort
those
sorts
of
things
that
that
might
get
when
when
code
gets
changed,
we
have
to
make
sure
that
the
links
continue
to
to
match
so
anyway,
just
just
maybe
one
of
the
downfalls
to
something
like
that.
B
Oh
okay,
can
you
hear
me
yep,
okay,
good,
hey,
full
disclosure
to
everybody.
I
have
applied
of
for
a
short-term
rental
that
is
to
convert
my
garage
to
a
an
adu.
B
Now,
I'm
only
telling
you
that,
because
I've
been
looking
at
this
a
lot
and
what
I
did
I
didn't
refer
to
the
book,
I
went
online
and
one
of
the
things
that
really
helped
me
at
least
figure
out
what
was
going.
B
What
I
needed
to
do
was
a
keyword,
search,
okay,
okay,
so
keyword,
searches
and
that
was
really
kind
of
instrumental
in
trying
to
figure
out
the
flood
zone
situation,
and
that
is
interspersed
kind
of
here
and
there
in
the
chapters-
and
I
don't
know
if
it's
worthwhile-
to
have
a
separate
topic
about
it
or
not.
Except
for
that,
we
now
have
a
hazard
flood
zone.
B
H
B
Are
on
the
floodplain?
This
is
all
a
flood
plain,
but
my
understanding
having
gone
through
this
is
there
are
designated
areas
now
where
they
are
special.
There
are
hazards
because
they're
by
the
gully,
and
that
is,
will
have
different
well
implications
in
all
of
this.
I
don't
want
to
just
talk
about
flood
specifically.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
am
using
it
and
for
chapter
two,
it's
it's.
I
kind
of
like
that.
We
dive
right
into
hey.
If
you're
gonna
make
a
city
revision
you
need.
B
So
I
think
that's
useful,
but
I
just
thought
I'd
mention
that
I
don't
know
I'd
be
interested
to
see
the
proposed
outline
that
the
team
came
up
with.
F
That's
you
know.
Your
perspective
is
very,
very
important
since
you're
you're,
using
it
right
now
and
and
trying
to
navigate
a
lot
of
that,
especially
with
accessory
dwelling
units,
that's
a
fairly
new
code
and
it
it
can
be
somewhat
confusing.
I
think,
to
try
to
find
what
all
the
documents
are
you
need
and
how
to
how
to
submit
and
that
sort
of
stuff.
So
that's
great
perspective.
A
Perhaps
he's
trying
to
rejoin
colin
and
then
kate
tell
me,
have
a
question
and
then
no.
G
And
this
may
be
kind
of
oversimplifying
what
you
and
kate
were
saying,
but
I
guess
if
there
was
a
way
like
in
the
very
beginning
to
be
like
if
you're
looking
at
adu,
you
click
here,
it
doesn't
feel
like
we're
going
right
into
zoning
changes
and
and
kind
of
these
big
picture
things,
whereas
I
just
want
to
put
an
addition
on
my
house
or
looking
into
an
edu,
or
you
know,
people
that
are
going
to
be
more
savvy
at
this
are
those
who
are
going
to
be
doing
a
pud
or
something
like
that.
G
G
That
might
go
with,
like
the
hyperlinks
that
you
were
talking
about
also
and
to
make
it
a
little
bit
easier.
But
I
guess,
as
looking
at
this
and
then
taking
what
brenda
had
said
about
how
she
was
using
him
to
search
through
keywords
which
is
great,
but
not
exactly
the
most
ideal
way
to
to
be
able
to
do
it.
G
I
I
really
like
the
idea
of
having
the
hyperlinks
or
the
ability
to
kind
of
move
through
the
document
kind
of
quickly.
In
that
sense,
I'm
just
wondering
considering
you
know
that
staff
uses
this
document
all
the
time
to
make
their
staff
reports,
and
then
people
who
are
doing
some
sort
of
application
process
would
also
be
using
this.
Is
there
some
way
to
look
at
the
application
process
and
how
you
could
either
organize
that
or
the
hyperlink,
so
they
speak
to
each
other?
I
Yeah,
and,
and
by
considering
you
know
how
staff
reports
are
developed
and
also
what
the
actual
I've
never
filled
out,
an
application
for
or
for
any
of
the
things
in
in
here.
So
are
there
steps
within
that
application
that
somehow
would
make
sense
in
terms
of
how
to
either
organize
the
links
to
organize?
What's
in
in
the
code.
C
My
question
would
be
about
what
technology
can
solve
for
us
here
and
what
platforms
exist
already.
You
know
it.
It's
usually
impossible
to.
F
C
Of
what
you
want
out
of
a
platform,
but
if
we
were
to
choose
one
or
staff
or
to
choose
one,
I
think
that
would
help
us
understand
what
is
is
and
is
impossible
for
the
ideas
that
we've
been
talking
about.
A
K
I
was
just
gonna
echo
what
I
heard
already
about
the
reorganization
possibilities.
I
think
getting
a
lot
of
the
zone
district
information
up
front
and
also
trying
to
get
as
much
of
that
together
as
possible,
so
that
you're
not
necessarily
flipping
back
and
forth
between
the
the
use
table
and
and
the
dimensional
standards,
and
that
kind
of
thing
because
oftentimes,
I
think
people
are
looking
at
this
to
find
their
district
and
what
they
can
do
in
that
district
and
some
of
this
stuff.
That's
all
about
procedure
up
front,
I
think,
is
confusing.
K
If
you
were
trying
to
read
it
straight
through
which
I
think
we
might
be
the
only
ones
trying
to
do
that,
but
I,
I
think
also
moving
the
pud
information
as
in
that
appendix
that
was
mentioned.
Appendix
e.
The
proposed
outline
moving
that
pud
information
in
with
the
rest
of
the
the
district
list
also
would
be
really
helpful.
I
know
that
they're
all
unique,
but
I
think
that's
where
people
would
intuitively
go
to
because
they
see
it
on
the
map.
F
Right,
you
know
the
the
list
in
chapter
two
is
not
a
comprehensive
list,
so
there
are
other
things
here
that
we
we
do
and
permits.
We
issue
that
that
are
not
in
chapter
two,
for
example,
sign
permits.
You
know,
there's
nothing
on
signs,
there's
not.
F
That
much
on
you
know
if
somebody
wants
to
pay
a
landscape
fee
in
lieu
of
actually
installing
you
know,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
information.
That's
here,
but
then
yet
again,
there's
a
lot
of
information.
That's
not
here
so
yeah.
Finding
a
way
to
organize
everything
is
is
going
to
be
a
task
that
we
need
to
undertake.
H
D
I
think
everybody's
made
some
good
comments,
especially
what
kate
said
you
know.
I
spend
a
lot
of
my
days
using
these
documents
and
I
can't
say
I've
ever
had
a
good
day
using
one,
so
I
think
that
breaking
it
down
by
project
type
or
what
the
end
user
is
trying
to
find.
In
other
words,
I
think
separating
single-family
detached
residential.
D
You
know
type
typologies
out
from
larger
commercial
development
types
if
somebody's
doing
a
remodel
or
looking
at
what
their
options
are
for
for
doing
that,
I
think
it
should
be
checklist
oriented.
I
think
it
should
be.
Here's
your
zoning
and
then
click
here's
your
project,
here's
what
I
want
to
do,
in
other
words,
have
a
list
of
what
those
options
are,
and
then
there
really
should
be
a
checklist
type
of
thing
for
the
things
that
you
need
to
be
doing
through
there,
where
this
is
at
in
in
the
final
document.
D
If
there
was
some
sort
of
checklist
item
there,
and
there
was
something
that
would
say
hey
here-
I
am
in
compliance
and
then
this
is
the
next
step
and
it's
broken
out
into
different
categories.
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
because
once
you
get
into
the
keyword,
search
and
scrolling
through
a
zoning
document
online,
it
gets
really
cumbersome
and
from
from
a
big
picture
perspective,
I
would
like
to
see
that
kind
of
broken
out
to
some
degree.
D
A
Well,
michelle
just
popped
up,
so
there
wasn't
anybody
for
a
second
but
michelle
and
then
colin
yeah
yeah.
Why
would
kind
of
second
what
bernie
was
saying?
I
think
that
a
checklist
sort
of
thing
it
doesn't
necessarily
need
to
be
in
the
per
se
in
this
book
of
or
code,
but
a
checklist
that
you
can
go
down.
That's
sort
of
a
part
of
a
part
of
what
I
think
we're
talking
about
is
a
frequently
asked
questions
kind
of
thing
I
want
to
build.
A
An
adu
frequently
asked
questions
about
that
and
then
there's
a
checklist
where
you
can
say:
okay,
this
is
step
one.
You
have
to
fill
out
this
form
step
two
and
you
can
just
check
that
off.
Like
I
said,
I
don't
think
it
needs
to
necessarily
be
in
this
book
or
inside
the
code.
But
if
it's
available
on
the
website,
I
think
that'd
be
very
helpful
for
people.
A
G
I
guess,
as
I'm
looking
flipping
through
and
then
looking
back
to
the
table
of
contents,
it
does
feel
like
there's
just
an
entire
amount
of
stuff.
In
this
chapter
right
I
mean
so:
we've
got
zoning
map,
amendments,
pud,
zoning
site,
improvement
plans,
subdivisions
and
then
go
into
permits
and
conditional
use
permits
and
limited
use
like
does
it
make
sense
that
those
are
all
together
in
one
item?
Should
it
be
that
the
permits
are
in
their
own
side
like
what
is
the
difference
between
limited
use
and
temporary
use
versus
conditional
use?
G
I
mean
they
kind
of
all
said
the
same
thing
to
me,
but
that's
probably
because
I
don't
deal
with
it
every
day.
So
I
guess
maybe,
if
there's
maybe
a
way
to
make
this
a
little
more
of
a
palatable
chapter
and
then
pull
out
some
of
the
things
that
could
be
in
a
separate
chapter.
It
might
be,
might
be
beneficial.
Also.
F
F
So
this
limited
use
category
is
an
administrative
approval
process
where
staff
goes
in
and
they
can
set
certain
conditions
on
potential
negative
impacts
of
the
use
such
as
land.
You
know
we
might
want
to
increase
the
landscaping
to
buffer
from
residential
use,
or
something
like
that,
so
we
would
like
to
get
out
of
that
business
and
either
make
them
a
buy
right
use
or
a
conditional
use
and
and
go
that
route.
So
that's
a
little
bit
of
background.
A
There
are
no
other
hands
at
this
time,
but
mr
ashby
has
rejoined
us.
E
Hey,
can
you
hear
me?
Okay?
Yes,
we
can
okay,
good
deal
yeah,
so
a
couple
of
good
ideas
here,
one
item
with
the
checklist
and
kind
of
helping
your
everyday
citizen
to
identify
kind
of
navigate
the
the
code
we've
seen
how
to
handbooks
or
guides
that
identify,
maybe
the
top.
You
know
maybe
six
or
seven
different
processes
that
your
average
homeowner
participates
in
and
create
kind
of
a
guide
as
to
how
to
use
the
code
and
kind
of
explains
those.
E
E
I
think
the
one
thing
that
jumps
out
to
me
is
that
they've
used
different
fonts
and
bold
text
and
color
to
really
help
arrange
that
overall
code
and
kind
of
make
it
more
readable
and
so
I'd
be
curious.
If,
if
even
some
of
those
simple
techniques
would
be
helpful
in
your
eyes
to
making
the
code
a
little
bit
easier
to
read
and
use.
J
Hey
everybody,
I'm
brooke,
I'm
a
planner
in
the
community
development
department,
and
I
was
just
listening
to
the
conversation
which
I
think
has
been
great.
I
think
I
just
kind
of
want
to
talk
about.
It
seems
like
we're
talking
about.
You
know,
sort
of
three
topics
and
one
of
them
is
sort
of
processes
and
the
ease
of
use
of
the
code.
So
if,
if
I
want
to
do
something,
put
a
shed
in
my
yard
do
an
addition.
J
If
I
want
to
build
a
multi-family
building,
what
is
the
easiest
way
for
me
to
find
that
information
and
that's
very
important
and
that's
going
to
be
certainly
part
of
our
discussion
and,
along
with
that,
is
kind
of
comes
what?
What
is
the
order
of
the
document?
J
What
kind
of
outline
there
was
a
suggested
outline
in
the
logan
simpson
report
and
and
that
we
we
may
or
may
not
follow
that,
but
that
that
is
kind
of
in
that
same
vein,
but
but
the
other
part
of
it
is,
and
I
think
wade
touched
on
a
little
bit-
are
our
one
of
our
more
difficult
tasks
is
going
to
be
what
the
code
says
and,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
what
what's
easy
to
find
online
or
click
with
hyperlinks
or
find
what
what
we
will
be
required
to
have
in
our
library
at
the
city
of
inglewood
will
be
what
is
the
code
and,
and
so
there
are
probably
not
much
in
chapter
one,
but
certainly
in
chapter
two.
J
There
are
some
elements
that
are
like
you
know:
should
these
uses
be
limited
uses
or
conditional
uses,
so
there's
also
the
substance
and
actual
code
which
is
law
that
which
will
be
the
more
difficult
part
of
our
task,
but
I
I
think
at
this
first
meeting,
it's
really
good
to
be
talking
about
sort
of
format,
ease
of
use.
J
You
know
processes,
and
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
that
at
the
end
of
the
day
there
it
is
about
modernizing
and
making
the
code
easier
to
understand
and
use,
but
it's
also
about
potentially
substance
substantive
changes
in
you
know
dimensional
standards,
things
like
that
potentially
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
point
and
that's
all.
A
D
I
think
the
brooks
point
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense
as
far
as
you
know
getting
to
that
content
and
what
the
changes
are
going
to
be.
I
I
think
the
the
importance
on
the
graphics
is
really
important
if
we
can
cut
through
the
just
text
that
should
have
the
word.
That
comes
to
my
mind
is
a
road
map.
How
can
we
have
a
road
map
for
each
project
to
show
what's
going
on
and
to
include
everything
in
one
area
that
you
need
for
that
not
just
from
a
submittal
or
a
compliance
standard?
D
But
what
is
next?
What
gets
you
to
the
end
and
beyond
is,
I
think,
really
important
the
discussion
about
what
the
what
is
the
content
of
the
code
and
what
those
changes
are.
I
think
we'll
get
to
that,
but
I
I
think
it
there
has
to
be
a
road
map,
and
then
you
know,
wade
mentioned
some
some
things
that
were
sort
of
conditional
approvals
and
or
trade,
I
think,
having
trade-offs
as
part
of
the
content
of
this
code
is
important,
I
think,
having
more
options
within
the
codes
you
don't
have
to
go
through.
D
You
know,
plan
review
or
or
administrative
adjustments
or
whatever
the
case
might
be
for
changes
I
think
is,
is
important.
I
think
that
that's
really
what
I'm
seeing
as
far
as
where
people
are
looking
at
the
code
is
that
there's
always
going
to
be
uses
that
are
outside
of
that
and
if
we
can
capture
that
and
sort
of
have
those
trade-offs
be
written
into
the
code.
I
think
that
would
be
a
step
in
the
right
direction.
G
G
You
know,
I
don't
know
if
that's
something,
those
are
the
kind
of
things
that
we
can
adjust
or
you
know,
there's
other
things
in
table:
16
2.2
the
development
of
review
and
decision
making
process
that
you
know
do
we
need
to
change
any
of
those
or
even
something
as
simple
as
do
we
really
have
to
mail
things
anymore?
Can
we
email
kind
of
those
type
of
items?
A
H
H
So
it's
helpful
to
kind
of
step
back
and
say
how
is
this
presented
because
in
when
it
comes
to
content,
I'm
just
wondering
if,
as
we
go
through
this
process,
if
there's
any
guidance
to
like
pull
out
a
few
things,
it
feels
like
there's
so
many
words
that
go
into
everything
that
I
got
very
lost
in
it.
So
I
was
wondering
when
we
do
get
to
content
specifically,
if
there's
a
way
to
distill
down
a
few
points
that
we
want
to
really
look
at
and
when
it
comes
to
how
this
information
is
presented.
H
F
Thanks
joe,
that's
very
important
feedback,
that's
that's
kind
of
what
we're
gonna
rely
on,
as
is
what
will
make
that
a
little
easier
for
people
to
to
navigate
through.
But
yes,
thank
you.
That's
that's
very
valuable.
G
Go
quickly,
maybe
that's
why
dugan's
on
here
now
and
this
time,
because
we
probably
would
get
in
trouble
if
not,
but
I'm
sure
there
has
to
be
some
of
that
legalese,
but
maybe
could
there
be
an
introduction
to
each
one
of
these
that
is
in
normal
people
languages
I
mean
even
I'm
in
the
field.
I
I
guess
I
wonder
if
there's
a
way
to
reduce
the
amount
of
words
by
somehow
somehow
consolidating
a
few
of
the
different
steps
and
then
being
able
to
distinguish,
what's
the
difference
for
each
step,
based
on
whether
you're
doing
a
pv
or
or
some
other
sort
of
base,
junk
zone,
re-face
zone
change
because
it
kind
of
is
redundant
and
the
there's
the
pre-application
piece,
the
neighborhood
meeting
the
noticing
city
review.
I
So
I
feel
like
that
gets
repeated
for
all
the
different
kinds
of
changes
that
you
can
make,
and
so
is
there
a
way
to
consolidate
some
of
that
or
note?
Okay
in
this
sort
of
change,
you
need
some
sort
of
slightly
different
noticing
or
some
sort
of
slightly
different
review
process,
instead
of
repeating
all
of
that
over
and
over
again.
F
Yeah
and
a
good
example
of
that
is
with
the
subdivisions
you
know
we
have.
We
have
administrative,
we
have
major,
we
have
minor
and
each
time
it
goes
into
the
submittal
requirements
for
each
one
and
preliminary
plat
final
plot.
We
want
to
combine
that
process
so
yeah.
That's
a
good
example
and
good
comment
to
definitely
try
to
combine
some
of
that
stuff.
A
Michelle
you're,
muted,
okay,
am
I
unmuted?
Now
you
are
okay,
I'm
sorry,
my
my
mouse
pad
is
doing
cuckoo
things
for
me,
where
you
kind
of
beat
me
to
the
punch
on
an
example
of
that.
I
have
another
example,
which
is
consider
considerations
for
zoning
variances
and
it
talks
about
the
unique
physical
conditions,
blah
blah
blah
shape,
location,
topography
and
then
just
a
couple
paragraphs
down
about
the
side,
cone
experiences.
A
It
does
the
same
thing:
existence
of
buildings,
topography,
vegetation,
science
structures
that
sort
of
stuff,
and
so,
if
we
can,
as
kate
mentioned,
try
to
make
it
so
that
in
what
you
mentioned
too,
so
that
all
these
words
can
be
boiled
down
and
quit
repeating
things.
I
think
that
will
make
it
much
easier
for
the
layperson
to
read.
A
K
I
was
just
gonna
follow
on
that,
since
that
I
look
at
those
criteria
for
zoning
variances
whenever
we
have
a
case
on
the
board
of
appeals
and
adjustment,
like
it's
really
hard
to
communicate,
what
we're
actually
able
to
consider
during
a
public
hearing
and
whether
it's
to
people
testifying
or
or
what
and
then
when
we
have
to
deviate
from
our
traditional
four
from
if
it's
assigned
variance
or
if
we're
dealing
with
an
appeal
on
an
administrative
adjustment,
there's
different
criteria
that
we
have
to
consider.
A
So
I
guess
I'm
just
saying
I
agree
with
maybe
some
font
differences
and
bolding
and
underlying-
and
things
like
that
might
be
helpful.
But
as
long
as
we
just
don't
go
too
crazy
with
it
and
make
it
very
very
complex
for
the
eye,
I
guess.
F
Okay,
so
I've
pulled
up.
Another
example
of
of
this
is
carbondale
colorado,
their
their
unified
development
code,
and
I
think
we
can.
We
can
talk,
talk
some
more
about
you,
know,
graphics
and
portraying
information
via
graphics,
where
possible.
I
think
that
could
also
be
something
that
would
help.
F
You
know
our
our
chapter.
2
has
those
sort
of
flow
chart,
graphics,
which
I
think
my
own
personal
opinion
here
tends
to
often
do
more
harm
than
good,
because
it
over
simplifies
the
actual
process.
If
you
look
at
look
at
those
flow
charts,
so
here's
here's
kind
of
a
summary
of
procedure
for
a
variance
you
know,
might
be
a
little
easier
to
to
read
through
if
it's
presented
in
more
of
a
visual
instead
of
written
text
after
text,
paragraph
format.
F
F
F
We
can,
I
think,
improve
how
we
present
the
information.
So
anyway,
again,
this
is
carbondale.
So
if
anybody
wants
to
search
on
that
code,
just
to
see
an
example
of
how
other
graphics
are
done,
I
think
these
are
some
really
good
examples
of
of
what
things
could
look
like
per
our
per
our
regulations.
So
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out
as
well.
B
C
B
Separate
section
that
since
you
just
added
adus,
it
says
accessory
dwelling
unit,
adu
steps
and
processes
so
kind
of,
like
everyone's
been
talking
about
taking
a
project
and
having
its
own
informational
say
you
want
to
build
a
carport.
Well,
here's
what
you
gotta
do
and
here's
the
picture.
Oh
and
your
carport
has
to
go
to
this
setback
and
there's
a
picture.
What
is
a
setback?
And-
and
this
is
really
pretty
well
done
this-
this
additional
abu
steps
and
processes,
because
then
it
does
have
exactly
what
you're
talking
about
it.
B
B
But
so
I
I
kind
of
like
the
idea
of
taking
say
you
want
to
do
a
shed
say
you
want
to
do.
You
want
to
convert
your
garage
because
and
that's
it's
two
different
things
by
the
way.
If
you
ran.
A
B
You
can
convert
your
garage
and
just
make
it
your
phone,
but
then
making
it
a
rental
is
another
thing,
but
oh
yeah,
I
like
this
idea
and
I
like
maybe
the
idea
is
for
us
to
come
up
with
with
all
the
possibilities
and
maybe
ask
the
city
you
all
what
have
people
been
applying
for?
What
have
they
been
wanting
to
do
fences?
B
H
B
H
B
Versus
conditional,
we
may
have
to
expand
on
that
for
us.
If
we
want
to
explore
changing,
oh
and
speaking
of
changing
code,
I
don't
know
if
I
didn't
know,
we
were
gonna
do
any
of
that,
but
I
know
that
we
have
a
lot
of
residents
pretty
upset
about
their
scrapes
and
what's
going
up.
F
Yes,
we
will
definitely
talk
about
about
that,
and
then
you
know
a
big
one
of
the
top
five
topics
in
the
assessment
was,
you
know,
preservation
of
neighborhoods
and
character
of
neighborhoods,
and
so
you
know
we.
We
hear
a
lot
about
the
scrapes
when
we,
when
we
talk
about
neighborhood,
preservations
and
preservation
techniques
and
that
sort
of
thing,
so
that
will
be
part
of
the
part
of
the
conversation.
F
J
Sure
yeah
so.
J
Most
zone,
so
zoning
codes
typically
have
permitted
uses
which
are
used
by
wright
and
then
in
our
zoning
code.
Has
these
as
well
permitted
uses,
which
really
is
a
use
by
right,
that
you
don't
need
to
do
anything
special
for
it
per
se,
so
you're
in
the
mub2
district
on
broadway
and
you
are
a
you,
sell
toys
and
somebody
else
wants
to
come
into
your
property
and
sell
auto
parts.
J
That's
fine!
That's
that's!
That's
that's
good!
They
just
do
it.
They
apply
for
a
business
license
and
unless
they
want
to
do
any
renovations
to
the
building,
they
can
just
do
it.
J
Then
there
are
obviously
not
permitted
uses
which
you
just
cannot
do
so,
for
instance,
on
broadway
you
could
not
have
a
car
salvage
yard
and
then
there
are
also
conditional
uses
which
are
are
require
the
review
of
not
only
staff
but
also
go
to
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
and
the
planning
zoning
commission
will
hear
a
case.
That's
a
conditional
use
and
they
can
put
conditions
on
that
on
that
use.
J
So,
for
instance,
a
a
small
brewery
on
broadway
would
be
a
conditional
use
like
a
kind
of
a
a
craft
brewery
where
you
could
actually
have
a
a
small
brewery
on
broadway
and
a
tasting
room
associated
with
that,
and
the
planning
zoning
commission
would
review.
Well.
What
is
your
production
like?
Are
there?
Are
there
any
environmental
factors
associated
with
it
is
gonna?
Is
it
gonna
smell,
like
you
know,
being
next
to
the
coors
plant
and
golden?
J
No,
it's
not,
but
is
there
anything
we
need
to
do
to
mitigate
this
and
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
could
put
conditions
on
that
and
and
and
that
can
carry
on
with
the
property
and
so,
and
that
is
very
typical
in
zoning.
J
We,
the
city
of
inglewood,
in
in
the
last
code,
rewrite
in
2004,
introduced
another
category
called
limited
uses
and
those
are
uses
by
which
might.
K
J
Know
a
little
bit
difficult
because
it
could
seem
arbitrary
and
some
of
our
limited
uses
have
specific
conditions
written
in
the
code
or
specific
requirements
written
in
the
code
and
others
do
not.
And
so
one
of
the
thoughts
was
I,
I
don't
think
our
limited
uses
over
the
last
15
years.
J
I
don't
think
it's
gone
as
well
as
it
perhaps
could
have,
and
so
one
of
the
thoughts
is
to
take
that
list
of
limited
uses
and
either
make
them
conditional
uses
or
permitted
uses
and
sort
of
take
it
away
from
staff
authority
and
put
it
into
either
something
that
that
you
can
just
do
as
a
use
by
right
or
put
in
under
the
purview
of
the
planning.
J
Zoning
commission
or
whatever
board
would
be
chosen,
but
I
think
it
would
be
the
planning
zoning
commission
and
have
that
be
a
little
bit
more,
have
a
little
bit
more
teeth
behind
that.
So
that
was
one
of
the
thoughts
did
I
answer
that?
Oh
okay,
wade
or.
J
J
J
G
B
No,
I
think,
let
me
just
say
it
back
to
you
say
I
have
a
I'm
just
trying
to
think
of
a
business
that
I
know
we
had
a.
We
had
an
issue
with
a
certain
business
on
broadway.
I
do
recollect
that,
and
I
know
this
person
was
very
very
upset
because
he
couldn't
sell
motorcycles
out
of
his
out
of
his
display
window
on
broadway,
but.
G
C
B
Able
to
he
couldn't
sell
him
as
a
dealer,
but
he
was
able
to
sell
them
if
you
resell
them.
As
like
a
like
a
used
car
person,
I
mean,
did
that
was
that
kind
of
what
you're
trying
to
do
is
to
get
out
of
having
the
city
try
to
regulate
business
is.
Is
that
what
you're
trying
to
get
away
from.
J
I
I
think
I
think
it's
either
to
say
you
can
sell,
you
know
motorcycles
or
automobiles.
That's
a
use
by
right,
go
for
it
or
to
have
that
particular
use.
J
Yeah,
auto
sales
are
a
limited
use
and
they
they
have
some
conditions
that
are
in
the
code
already,
but
they
are
also
staff
can
put
some
conditions
on
and
it
it
it
gives
a.
J
It
gives
a
level
of
uncertainty
and
I
think,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
codes
out
there
that
don't
have
that
in
between
it's
either
allowed
or
it's
conditional
or
it's
not
allowed,
and
the
limited
use
can
sometimes
put
staff
in
a
difficult
position
and
and
also
make
applicants
or
you
know,
business
owners
feel
uncertain
about
their
business
and
then
what
they
want
to
do.
B
No,
I
was
just
gonna,
then
clarify
we
can
we
say
somebody
has
a
business
that
might
have
some
toxic
waste
associated
with
it.
B
They
would
they
wouldn't
just
automatically
be
given
the
right
to
use
that
property
to
do
that.
They
would
instead
need
to
run
it
by
planning
and
zoning
is
that,
would
that
be
a
conditional
use.
J
Well,
there's
certainly
going
to
be
uses
that
you
know,
certainly
when
you're
talking
about
toxic
waste
and
things
like
that,
there's
going
to
be
things
that
are
just
not
allowed
in
in
the
code
to
even
be
in
the
city
I
mean
there
are
certain
uses
that
you
can't
even
go
into
any
part
of
the
city
with
in
the
city
of
inglewood,
we're
just
too
urban
for
that.
J
J
So
no,
I
do
not
think
something
like
toxic
waste
would
necessarily
all
of
a
sudden,
be
put
in
front
of
a
planning
zoning
commission
with,
quite
frankly,
people
like
us
making
decisions
on
those
kinds
of
very
important
issues.
A
H
F
Well,
this
might
have
changed
in
the
past
few
years,
but
it
used
to
be
planning
and
zoning
commission
had
to
approve
home
day
cares
as
a
conditional
use-
and
you
know,
planning
and
zoning
commission
at
the
time
started
discussing
well.
Is
this
use
really
that
impactful
that
we
have
to
go
through
these
public
hearing
processes
in
order
to
let
that
operation
continue
in
a
neighborhood?
F
So
you
know
that
might
be
a
use
that
we
reclassify
as
a
use
by
right.
You
know
a
limited
use.
You
know
the
best
thing
I
can
think
of
because
we
see
them
frequently
are:
are
they
used
car
lots
along
broadway
they're,
all
limited
uses?
F
F
You
know
their
landscaping
must
be.
You
know
five
trees
per
every
30
feet
of
frontage
instead
of
three
trees.
You
know
something
like
that.
The
planning
and
zoning
commission
would
then
rule
and
approve
that,
and
we
would
have
an
easier
time
enforcing
that
being,
is
it's
a
board
and
commission
that's
making
that
decision
and
not
just
staff.
There's
there's
a
lot
of
pushback
with
staff,
I'm
just
making
those
requirements
and
conditions.
H
F
So
what
we're
going
to
ask
is
we
look
at
each
each
of
those
uses
that
are
listed
in
the
code
currently
with
an
l
in
the
use
table
and
some
things
may
be
like
daycares
not
considered
impactful
enough
to
require
additional
approvals,
and
maybe
something
like
a
used
car
lot.
We
might
want
to
have
additional
approvals
to
to
that
use
because
of
the
potential
negative
impacts.
F
F
That
we
might
not
think
is
the
best
way
to
go
about
it
at
this
time.
So
yeah.
H
The
I
guess
sorry
to
go
down
my
list
as
far
as
the
conversation
that
conversations
that
I've
happened
so
far
on
today's
call.
I
was
hearing
a
lot
about
the
graphic
hierarchy,
the
graphic
presentation
of
the
code
and
inclusion
of
drawings,
maybe
as
a
separate
idea
from
how
the
typography
represents
the
information.
H
I
really
also
was
drawn
to
the
carbondale
kind
of
visual
presentation
of
information.
I
think
it
spoke
both
to
michelle's
concern,
which
I
think
is
a
real
concern.
Some
some
jurisdictions
I've
seen
go
crazy
with
color
and
fonts,
and
you
know
they
completely
lose
the
graphic
hierarchy
and
it's
almost
the
opposite
of
the
legalese
which
you're
like
I
don't
even
know
what
to
look
at,
but
I
do
think
the
inclusion
of
drawings
is
really
important
and
I
think
helps
people
especially
lay
people,
but
also
designers.
H
H
H
Is
there
in
a
zoning
code,
a
hierarchy
designated
to
one
or
the
other
like
specifications
or
the
words
take
precedence
over
any
discrepancy
with
the
drawing
or
so
so
on?
But
I
suppose
that's
a
dugan
question.
F
Well,
if,
if
I
may
and
correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong,
dugan
or
brooke,
I
think
our
code
currently
says
that
the
text
rules
so
any
table
or
visual
that
is
in.
J
It
would
be
my
understanding
is,
is
the
same.
I
think
that's
in
like
chapter
one.
Actually,
yes,
I
think
text
rules
over
table.
J
I'm
not
sure
I
like
that,
but
I
think
that's
the
way
it
is.
Is
that,
like
a
typical
thing,
dugan.
F
It
wouldn't
necessarily
look
at
the
table
per
se
and
the
tables
are
really
more.
I
think
it's
just
more
of
a
visual
for
people
to
look
at
so
the
courts
would
look
at
the
text
in
the
basis
of
that.
H
Yeah,
I
that
was
my
understanding
as
well,
and
I
think
that
that
to
me
says
we,
I
think
we
absolutely
should
include
graphics
for
clarity
and
tables,
but
having
understandable,
legible
text
that
you
know
the
layperson
from
the
lay
person
I
mean.
H
I
think
I've
heard
it
on
here
already,
even
if
you're
in
the
field
and
in
you
know
doing
this
regularly,
there's
still
a
lot
of
interpretation
that
can
go
on
and
zoning
code
legalese
and
so
the
clearer
and
more
simply
we
can
state
things
the
better
and
then
and
then
maybe
it's
just
having
the
kind
of
typographic
hierarchy
as
well
as
the
hyperlinks
I
love
hyperlinks
will
help
with
that.
H
H
H
Products,
and
then
you
have
how
you
execute
it.
It's
I
just
tossed
that
out
as
an
idea
of
a
kind
of
standardized
way
that
at
least
design
professionals
and
construction
professionals
and
developers
might
be
looking
at
information.
J
I
I'm
a
landscape
architect
also,
and
so
I
used
to
build
parks
and
put
together
spec
books
and
plans
for
those
and-
and
I
think
a
spec
book
is-
is
very
similar
to
code,
it's
written
in
some
similar
ways,
but
I
I
think
your
discussion
on
what
is
in
the
code.
How
can
we
make
it
understandable?
J
We
know
it's
law
and
it
and
it
does
typically.
You
know
our
state
statutes.
Typically,
don't
have
a
lot
of
drawings
in
them,
but
we
sort
of
need
to
have
both
and-
and
I
think
we
can
have
our
code
and
our
zoning
code
and,
at
the
same
time,
be
very
cognizant
of
how
important
these
drawings
are
in
in
illustrating
concepts
and
simplifying
it
and
making
it
so
people
don't
necessarily
and
having
hyperlinks.
So
people
don't
necessarily
have
to
look
through
all
that
verbage,
you
know
or
statutes
or
code.
J
But
so
I
think
a
a
a
spec
book
would
be
sort
of
another
layer
that
I
think
the
the
code
is
kind
of
a
spec
book
with
a
lot
of
shells
and-
and
you
know,
but
we
need
to
do
both
and
I
do
think
we
can
bridge
the
divide
between
drawings
and
our
code.
I
mean
it's
pretty
easy
to
have
in
a
table
or
in
written
code
you
got
a
five
foot
set
back
on
the
sides
25
in
front
20
in
the
rear.
J
This
is
what
the
bulk
plane
looks
like,
and
you
can
describe
that
and
have
those
two
things
be
exactly
the
same,
not
unlike
a
set
of
construction
drawings
matches
up
with
the
spec
book
as
we
would
all
like
it
to
be
anyways.
That's
that's
my
only
comment.
H
D
D
I
I
think
this
is
an
opportunity
to
not
only
have
that
layer
to
help
people
understand
exactly
what
the
intent
of
the
code
is,
but
to
also
go
that
next
time
to
have
all
of
that
information
there.
So
if
you're,
looking
at
a
a
graphic,
a
drawing,
that's
showing,
let's
say
setbacks,
then
that
setback
should,
if
there's
a
hyperlink
or
some
other
information
that
needs
to
be
there.
You
shouldn't
have
to
go
to
definitions
in
chapter
27
to
go,
find
out
what
that
is
and
to
brooke's
point.
D
I
think
the
next
layer
of
that
would
also
be
to
show
a
graphic
of
how
the
preferred
way
of
showing
it
dimensioning.
It
should
be
done
so,
in
other
words,
if
the
dimension
for
a
setback
is
to
the
finished
construction
of
the
wall,
then
that
should
be
the
what's
indicative
of
that
section.
That
should
be
defined
and
shown
in
that
and
and
the
definition
of
how
that's
calculated
and
what
the
the
the
legal
you
know
review
of
that
of
that
piece
of
information
should
be
there.
D
So
I
I
think
this
is
a
good
opportunity
to
do
that.
I
I
find,
and
I
haven't
looked
at
you
know,
I'm
looking
at
most
of
the
codes
in
the
front
range
area
here
I
find
that
the
graphics
don't
always
represent
what's
in
reality,
and
I
find
that
they're,
sometimes
misleading
as
to
the
simplicity
of
what
those
standards
are.
So
if
we
can
take
that
next
level
and
start
to
dial
that
in
a
little
bit
more,
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
from
a
layperson's
perspective
from
a
professional's
perspective
and
from
the
plan
reviewer's
perspective.
D
F
Okay,
I'm
gonna
check
in
with
matt
ashby
to
see.
If
he's
is
he
still
online
to
see
if
he
has
any
comments
or
observations?
So
far
with
what
we're
saying.
F
K
F
Sorry,
thank
you.
Yeah
andy
you're,
you're,
very
familiar
with
the
lapsing
periods
for
for
boa
approvals.
We
are,
we
often
ran
into
time
frame
issues
with
that,
so
we're
upping.
We
have
up
that
at
this
point.
F
One
thing
is
we
want
to
be
as
consistent
as
we
can,
so
I
do
think
looking
at
the
various
different
lapsing
periods
is
something
to
consider
one
other
thing:
you'll
notice
in
there
is
that
lapsing
periods
for
planned
unit
developments.
There
is
none
and
there
is
not
a
lapse.
So
we
are
looking
at
establishing
a
period
of
time
for
those
approvals.
F
F
Yes,
they
all
of
a
sudden
came
in
and
pulled
building
permits
for
just
last
year,
and
so
there
was
quite
a
bit
of
change
that
had
happened
in
that
time
period
with
regard
to
you
know,
drainage,
standards
and,
and
so
forth,
that
you
know
they
were
you
know
they
were
invested
in
the
2013
approvals.
So
and
that's
one
one
case
that
really
brought
that
home
to
us.
Is
we
needed
to
look
at
that
specifically
for
planning
and
developments,
but
yeah?
F
I
think
we
have
run
into
some
times
where
that
is
not
enough
time
for
an
applicant
to
really
get
or
a
developer
to
get
their
their
financing
together
or
their.
You
know
construction
team
together,
and
they
would
have
to
come
back
in
for
reapproval
of
things,
and
you
know
that's
an
area
we
want
to
to
make
sure
we're
giving
people
enough
time
to
get
things
taken
to
the
next
step.
F
E
F
F
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
chance
to
you
know
we're
kind
of
wrapping
up
the
discussion
here
shortly
on
on
chapters
one
and
two
and
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
chance
to
to
respond
to
things.
You've
heard
and
ideas.
E
Yeah,
no
it's,
it
sounds
great.
You
know.
One
of
the
the
concepts
that
we
have
taken
with
codes
is
a
csi
approach
and
that's
clarify,
streamline
and
improve,
and
I
think,
you've
all
really
identified
several
ways
that
we
would
be
able
to
do
that
through
the
update
to
the
code
through
some
different
formatting
different
document,
wayfinding,
to
make
it
easier
to
navigate
by
using
illustrations
and
and
visuals
that
help
to
explain
more
complex
ideas.
I
I
guess
I
have
two
things
one
would
be
there
was
a
house
bill
this
year
that
I
think
required
all
municipal
governments
to
get
rid
of
the
conditional
use
for
child
care
and
not
make
any
additional
conditions
on
top
of
it,
just
being
a
typical
residential
use.
So
we'll
probably
have
to
update
that
anyway.
I
I
have
a
bigger
question,
so
it
may
not
be
for
tonight,
but
if
I
can
put
it
out
there
because
something
this
is
about
criteria
in
chapter
two
and
in
thinking
about
like.
If
there
are
things
that
were
going
to
change
in
the
text
of
the
code,
that
would
be
around
bulk
playing
or
things
like
that
and
what
that
criteria
would
be,
and
so
I
find
it
somewhat
confusing.
I
Maybe
someone
can
help
me
with
this,
but
that
they
have
two
criteria
that
we
would
need
to.
We
need
to
meet
one
of
at
least
two
criteria
that
are
currently
in
the
code.
I
So
I
didn't
quite
understand,
then
what
the
difference
is
between
a
proposed
amendment
or
what
the
current
versus
the
current
code
versus
what
might
be
new
coming
in
and
then
how?
How
do
we
balance
that
with
what's
in
the
comprehensive
plan?
Does
that
make
sense?
I
don't
know
if
anyone
can
clarify
what's
in
in
that
criteria?
What
is
the
proposed
amendment
versus?
I
F
I
think
I
would
interpret
that
to
mean
what
we
would
propose
it
to
be
changed
to
not
what's
in
the
code.
So
what
we
are
proposing
the
changes
be
should
be,
in
conformance
with
the
comprehensive
plan.
I
F
J
Is
that
that's
chapter
two
under
code
amendments
or
title
of
that
is
text?
Amendments.
F
J
H
E
E
Simplify
would
be
to
really
look
at
items
where
they're,
overly
complex,
unnecessarily
and
and
trying
to
really
address
the
minimum
of
issues
that
you
need
to
to
have
a
positive
outcome,
and
then
improvements
would
be
things
to
address
new
changes
or
trends
in
in
community
development
that
may
not
currently
be
represented
effectively
in
your
code.
J
That
thank
you
that
that's
great
yeah
and
diane
ironically
csi
to
me
stands
for
construction
specifications
institute
to
your
earlier
point.
But
now
that's
that.
Thank
you.
Matt.
A
Michelle,
I
just
had
a
very
quick
question
for
either
waiter
or
kate.
What
was
that
section
that
you
were
referring
to
kate
dash
16-2-1?
What.
F
F
A
F
F
I'm
glad
matt
was
here
to
to
hear
our
conversation
and
take
what
we've
said
and
start
looking
at
how
to
implement
some
of
these
different
criteria
that
we're
looking
at.
I
wanted
to
move
on
real
quickly
to
community
engagement.
Oh
colin,
do
you
have
a
question?
No.
E
G
Yeah,
I
did
just
notice
and
I
didn't
quite
connect
it
when
you
showed
your
screen,
you
went
to
the
online
version
of
the
text
which
didn't
have
the
those
process
diagrams
or
whatever
the
flow
diagrams
in
there,
and
so
at
least
I
didn't
see
it
in
there.
That
might
be.
I
think,
if
there's
different
versions
of
this
available
in
different
places,
that
might
be
just
something
that
we
need
to
kind
of
assess
together
and
that'll
be
quiet.
G
F
We
will
make
sure
yeah
the
the
official
the
official
code
is
what's
here
on
or
the
most
up-to-date
code
is
what's
here
on
unicode.
So
that's
what
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
all
looking
at.
In
that
version,
I
believe
you
all
have
the
heart
copy
of
this
version.
Is
that
right,
nancy?
I
I
don't
remember
yeah.
F
Yes,
they
are
on
here
they're,
small,
smaller,
so
they're
over
here
to
the
side
are
those
the
diagrams.
G
I
think
I
may
have
had
the
participants
covering
that.
F
F
We
will
be
at
celebrate
englewood
it's
a
saturday
from
10
to
2
and
we
will
have
a
booth
there.
I
am
going
to
be
sharing
a
booth
with
eric
sampson,
our
planner
two
in
the
department
I'll
have
a
code
next
informational
setup.
For
for
that
event,
it's
really
going
to
just
basically
announce
the
project
to
the
community
and
anybody
interested
and
I'll
have
information
to
steer
them
to
in
englewood
engaged.
F
We
talked
about
englewood
engaged
last
meeting
and
that's
the
project
web
page
for
this
project.
It's
really
the
cities
portal
for
all
of
our
our
projects
and
all
of
our
public
projects
going
on.
So
not
only
is
this
codenext
project
there,
but
you'll
see
a
lot
of
different
projects,
there's
a
page
about
the
depot
park
pollinator
program-
and
you
know
the
the
dartmouth
bridge
project
and
the
pedestrian
bridge
over
oxford.
F
We
will
be
doing
quarterly
updates
to
city
council
about
code
next,
so
the
first
update
will
be
in
november,
and
I
will
be
asking
for
a
couple
of
volunteers
to
attend
that
meeting
with
me
from
this
group
so
that
we
can
start
putting
faces
in
front
of
a
council
to
talk
about
the
project
and
things
like
that.
So
when
that
gets
closer
I'll
I'll,
keep
reminding
everybody
and
see
who's
available
to
attend
that
night.
F
F
So
I
just
wanted
to
remind
everybody.
It
is
wednesday,
the
8th
you
know.
Initially,
at
that
meeting
we
will
have
a
more
comprehensive
presentation
by
the
gould
evans
team,
that
kind
of
outlines
the
entire
process
here,
how
we're
going
to
organize
a
little
more
clearly,
some
of
the
major
topics
like
workforce
housing
and
parking
and
sustainability
and
and
and
that
sort
of
thing.
So
how
are
we
going
to
plug
the
larger
topics
into
this
conversation
and
and
when
we
can
maybe
anticipate
doing
that
and
how
we'll
go
about
doing
that?
F
So
we'll
have
a
conversation
about
that
and
then
also
john
vobrell
will
give
us
a
an
update
on
the
oxford
station
industrial
transit-oriented
development
study
that
was
completed
by
the
city
back
in
april
again,
just
by
by
way
of
you
know
education
for
everybody
to
see
what's
going
on
in
the
city,
you
know
providing
you
as
much
information
as
we
can,
so
you
can
have
that
in
mind
as
we
go
forward
and
talk
about,
you
know,
development
regulations
and
what
might
work
out
in
some
of
our
other
transit
oriented
areas
of
the
community.
F
A
Yeah,
so
we
have
carl
adams,
then
colin
then
noel
great.
C
It's
right
outside
the
police
department.
A
F
C
H
F
If
nothing
else,
we
appreciate
very
much
tonight
and
the
conversation,
and
we
will
see
you
if
not
the
28th
on
the
8th.