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Water and Sewer Board - 13 Dec 2022
A
C
All
right,
Brenda
looks
like
we're
well
over
Quorum.
Yes
right,
how
do
we
get
started
good
evening?
Everybody
I
will
call
this
meeting
the
December
water
board
meeting
to
order
and
Brenda.
If
you
would
take
role
for
us,
please.
E
F
B
B
C
All
right,
thank
you.
Next,
on
the
agenda
is
just
approval
of
the
minutes
from
the
November
8th
board
meeting.
Could
I
get
a
motion
to
approve.
C
E
C
Opposed
opposed
all
right
motion
carries
last
I
heard
we
did
not
have
a
public
forum,
but
I'll
Brenda
just
check
one
more
time.
C
A
Actually,
if
I
can
step
in
before
you
hand
it
over
to
Josh
I
just
want
to
take
a
moment
to
introduce
Josh
roach
to
the
board.
Josh
has
been
with
us
for
about
a
year
and
a
half,
and
just
last
month
successfully
interviewed
and
is
now
our
permanent
deputy
director
of
operations
and
maintenance,
and
he
was
in
that
role
as
an
interim,
since
July
has
done
a
an
exceedingly
good
job,
and
now
we
have
that
permanently
filled,
which
is
which
has
really
helped
us
round
out.
A
Our
staffing,
our
last
vacancy
is,
is
the
deputy
director
of
engineering
which
we're
still
recruiting
for,
but
I'm
really
excited
to
have
Josh
in
this
role,
he's
got
years
and
years
of
of
experience
and
operations
and
maintenance,
water
and
and
he's
brought
a
tremendous
amount
of
of
that
experience
to
Englewood
water,
which
has
been
great.
So
if,
with
that
I'm
gonna
Josh,
let
you
let
you
run
with
it,
and
and
thank
you
chair
for
letting
me
provide
an
introduction.
There.
G
Good
evening,
chair
and
board
Sarah's
going
to
share
the
screen
here,
I'm
here
to
present
the
2023
book
chemical
purchases
for
the
Allen
water
treatment
plant.
These
are
the
same
chemicals
we
purchase
every
year
and
probably
presented
to
you
the
previous
year.
These
are
book
chemicals
for
the
plant.
These
are
kind
of
the
core
chemicals
that
we
use
for
disinfection,
pH
adjustments,
sediment
removal
in
the
form
of
a
sodium
hypochlorite,
sodium
hydroxide
and
aluminum
sulfate.
G
The
cost
for
that
the
screen
is
a
little
blocked
of
mine,
but
the
cost
of
that
is
380
000,
sodium
hypochlorite
and
that
is
through
DPC
Industries
and
175
000
for
the
sodium
hydroxide,
also
through
DPC
Industries,
and
then
aluminum
sulfate
through
chem-traded
chemicals,
195
000
for
a
total
of
750..
All
these
are
competitively
bid
and
run
through
processes
through
an
organization
called
APO,
which
is
a
kind
of
a
Joint
City
procurement
opportunity
there
for
for
stuff
to
be
completely
bid
without
us
necessarily
having
to
do
all
that
work.
G
So
these
are
the
chemicals
presented.
Last
year
we
got
the
same
same
ones
up
this
year
for
a
total,
seven
or
eight
thousand
dollars.
C
Not
seeing
any
Josh
I'm
just
curious,
how's
the
how
are
the,
how
more
of
the
unit
cost
or
whatever
just
kind
of
curious,
what
kind
of
inflation
we're
seeing
on
these
chemicals
we're
given
quantity
relative
to
last
year,
right.
G
So
we
are
ordering
the
same
amount
as
well
last
year
with
the
increase
of
about
30
percent,
so
pretty
significant
and
substantial
increase
in
previous
year.
But
that's
the
stuff
we
see
across
the
board
with
lots
of
lots
of
items.
F
Actually
I
had
heard
somewhere
and
I
wish.
I
wrote
it
down
when
I
heard
it
that
there
were
supply
chain
issues
now
with
the
water
treatment
supplies.
Did
you
see
any
of
that,
or
is
that
why
the
30
increase
is
in
there.
G
D
G
A
I'll,
just
I'll
just
add
to
that
one
of
the
things
that
was
a
concern
was
the
railway
strike.
That
was
actually
a
a
significant
thing
that
we
were
paying
attention
to,
because
that
was
potentially
going
to
create
an
issue
for
chemicals
for
water
plants
and
same
thing
in
a
Wastewater
Plant.
Fortunately,
that
seems
to
be
resolved
at
the
federal
level.
So
we
don't
anticipate
that
creating
a
supply
chain
disruption
and
I'll
just
add
that
these
chemical
increases
we're
seeing
very
similar
increases
over
at
the
Wastewater
Plant
as
well.
It's
the
it's.
A
C
I'm
not
seeing
any
additional
questions.
Oh
and
actually
Josh.
We
pulled
down
the
just
pull
down
the
PowerPoint,
so
we
shifted
this.
Thank
you.
Jim
I,
hate,
well,
I
saw
your
hand
was
up.
Is
it
did
you
need?
Did
you
ever
hand
raised
I'm?
Sorry,
it's
mute,
you're,
muted,
I,
assume,
you're
good.
C
All
right,
I'm,
assuming
Jim,
you
don't
have
anything
or
you're
mutants
I
can't
hear,
but
we'll
move
on
can
I
get
a
motion
to
recognize.
B
B
Sorry,
I
right
when
I
was
trying
to
hit
the
on
mute
button.
Another
screen
popped
up
from
my
computer,
telling
something
my
question
was
I
said
in
the
letter
there's
to
Kimberly
the
first
email
I
think
that
shows
up
it's.
It
asks
if
the
city
of
Inglewood
was
there,
it
says,
was
not
part
of
the
last
mapo
bid.
What
is
an
mapo
and
is
that
to
our
advantage
or
disadvantage?
B
G
The
map-
you
know
have
that
acronym
right
here,
but
what
it
is
is
a
joint
organization.
It's
actually
that
Colorado
multiple
assembly
of
procurement
officials,
so
because
this
stuff's
ordered
through
lots
of
cities
and
lots
of
utilities,
they
kind
of
work
together
to
get
the
best
pricing
on
these
things.
So
we
did
use
that
pricing
for
this
year
and
the
previous
year,
as
well
as
of
a
2020
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
certain.
If
we
were
part
of
the
organization,
then.
A
And
I
can
actually
adds
a
background
on
that.
There
was
a.
There
was
a
point
in
time
where
we
were
not
actually
part
of
the
the
mapo
contract
and
we
were
getting,
but
we
were
being
afforded
Maple
pricing
and
we
we
did
resolve
that
to
now
be
part
of
that.
Mapo
pricing
is
my
understanding,
so
we,
these
are
all
based
on
that
that
that
Cooperative
pricing
approach
that
gets
us
the
the
best
rates
for
these
types
of
com.
These
types
of
commodities.
B
F
C
All
right
any
further
discussion,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye,
aye,
aye
opposed
all
right
motion
carries
we
have
no
old
business
and
we'll
go
to
staff's
choice.
A
Okay,
I
have
a
a
few
items
here.
Thank
you,
chair,
the
first
of
which
is
something
that
occurred
in
September
of
this
year
that
we've
been
working
through
the
the
effects
of
which
is.
We
are
now
considered
a
large
utility.
So
what
that
means
is
it?
A
It
changes
how
we
are
regulated
to
a
certain
degree,
and
essentially
what
happened
is
the
city
didn't
or
the
state
did
an
assessment
of
us
and
what
they
look
at
is
you
can
see
they
look
at
not
just
your
our
our
population
that
lives
here,
but
our
influx
of
population
that
that
works
here
so
because
we
have
industry
and
because
we
have
the
hospitals,
there
are
a
couple
of
our
biggest
employers.
A
We
serve
not
just
the
permanent
residence
water,
but
all
the
people
that
come
into
the
city
on
a
regular
basis
are
considered
are
considered
consumers
of
the
water,
which
then
creates
the
the
total
that
they
go
off
of.
So,
if
you
look
at
the
the
table,
our
residential
population
is
is
about
the
is
estimate.
Well,
it's
not
even
estimated
it's
33
659,
so
that
seems
pretty
precise,
but
it's
right
around
where
we
would
expect
it
to
be,
which
is
right
around
that
33
to
35
000.
the
non-transient.
A
So
this
is
the
the
the
the
group
that
comes
and
goes
to
work
is,
is
estimated
twenty
three
thousand
six.
Seventy
three,
these
are
based
on
actual
data.
That's
pulled
by
I
think
it's
the
census,
Bureau!
It's
based
on
the
census
that
that
determines
these
numbers,
which
then
gives
us
a
total
population
of
57
332
served
by
the
utility.
A
The
the
point
of
of
large
utility
designation
is
anything
over
50
000
people,
so
we
had
been
working
with
the
state
through
the
course
of
the
the
spring
in
the
summer
to
provide
them
information.
We
thought
we
were
slightly
under
the
50
000,
but
then
they
provided
us
the
data
that
when
we
went
back
and
confirmed
based
on
that
it
was
that
that
non-transient
number.
That
really
is
what
what
pushes
us
over
that
over
that
fifty
thousand.
So
what
does
it
all
mean?
A
It
means
we
are.
We
are
much
more
regulated
as
it
relates
to
lead
and
copper
and
we've
already.
We
already
had
a
a
have
a
program
in
place
to
address
our
lead
service
lines.
We
were
already
getting
ahead
of
that
in
anticipation
of
this
designation.
A
Well,
this
puts
us
into
a
place
where
we're
no
longer
voluntarily
moving
forward
to
stay
ahead
of
that,
we
actually
have
regulatory
requirements
that
are
associated
with
being
a
large
utility
designation,
and
so
you
can
see
some
of
the
the
things
that
are
that
are
listed
there.
The
other
thing
that
it
does
is
it
increases
our
sampling
rates
that
we
need
to
that.
We
need
to
pull
samples
for
so
this
is.
A
This
is
something
that
you
know
the
sampling
rate
increase
is
is
an
impact,
but
it's
not
a
it's
not,
but
tremendously
significant
impact.
The
lead
and
copper
rule
is
an
impact
in
the
sense
that
we
go
from
voluntarily
addressing
our
leading
lead
service
line
issue
to
now
we
have
expectations
from
a
regulatory
perspective
on
a
schedule
for
addressing
those
addressing
those
lead
service
lines.
We
are
still
planning
to
address
them
more
aggressively
than
what
was
what
was.
A
What
this
also
means
is
we
have
to
do
something.
That's
that's
called
an
optimal
corrosion
control
study.
This
is
what
Denver
Water
did
over
the
last
a
few
years,
if
you
heard
about
the
Denver
Water
corrosion
study
in
the
program
to
deal
with
their
lead
service
lines.
So
a
couple
of
the
things
that
came
out
key
points
that
came
out
of
that
was
everybody
that
has
a
lead
service
line
was
sent
a
a
Brita
filter
with
a
filter
that
filters
out
filters.
A
The
water,
Denver
Water
went
through
extensive
testing
to
determine
the
effects
of
that
filtration,
as
it
relates
to
the
removal
of
lead,
and
this
was
deemed
a
a
pilot.
It
has
been
subsequently
fully
approved
by
the
EPA.
Just
in
the
last
couple
weeks,
there
was
a
there
was
a
media
announcement
on
it
that
came
out.
That
said
that
the
Denver
Water
model
for
dealing
with
this
type
of
issue
is
should
be
used
by
more
communities
across
the
U.S.
So
we'll
probably
be.
A
We
are
looking
to
model
that
approach,
because
they've
gone
through
the
the
work
of
getting
the
state
to
approve
it
and
it
it
puts
us
in
a
place
where
we
can.
We
can
do
a
similar
type
of
mitigation
in
the
short
term
and
then
the
other
piece
of
it
is
accelerating
the
removal
of
the
lead
service
lines
which
we
had
planned
to
do
all
along
from
a
strategy.
This
is
now
just
makes
it
required.
So
there's
going
to
be
more
coming
on
this.
We
are.
A
We
anticipate
more
directives,
we'll
be
working
with
the
state
to
get
approval
on
that
approach
and
we'll
be
working
with
Outreach.
Our
community
outreach,
so
that
people
understand
when
you
know
when
they,
when
they
get
sent
a
Brita
filter.
There's
a
re,
there's
a
rationale
and
a
reason
why
foreign
so
just
another
impact
from
a
regular
regulatory
perspective
that
we've
been
we've
been
anticipating
and
now
we're
we're
dealing
with.
B
F
Yes,
I
was
here
when
they
had
the
they
didn't,
get
all
the
required
I.
Guess
tests
done
or
backflow
whatever
that
was
done,
and
then
they
had
something
where
it
came
up
that
they
had
to
call
for
the
boil
order
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
we
have
a
process
in
place
this
time
to
have
the
appropriate
people
call
for
the
boil
order
and
then
reverse
it
if
we're
doing
it
by
phone
and
or
cell
phone
and
notifying
people,
and
then
just
leaving
it
hanging
out
there.
A
So
here's
here's
so
so
this
is
somewhat
of
a
different
issue,
but
it
is,
it
is
a
regulate.
It's
a
regulatory
issue,
it's,
but
it's
different
than
this
Latin
copper
work
that
we
that
we
need
to
focus
on
here.
A
I
think
the
the
issue
with
the
boil
order
was
associated
with
like
what
we
fully
deter.
What
we
ultimately
determine
is
we
we
had
a
what
we
believe
was
a
leaking
meter
pit
and
out
of
a
tremendous
abundance
of
caution
and
protection
of
the
health
of
the
community.
We
went
with
that
approach
to
address
it,
and
then
there
was
the
over
notification
issue
that
was
determined
to
be
an
issue
with
the
system
and
and
what
it
was
is
there
was
there
was
a
there
was
a
there's,
a.
A
Value
in
that
system
that
basically
said
that
the
bleed
over
for
that
that
polygon
square
of
notification
was
and
originally
intended
to
be
0.1
miles
and
because
they
use
that
system
a
lot
in
rural
areas
for
Wildfire
notification.
They
had
switched
that
programming
to
10
miles,
and
so,
when
Arapahoe
County
issued
that
that
I
forgot
what
the
system
is
I'm
escaping
me
right
now,
but
that
alert
where
there
was
an
anticipation.
It
was
only
going
to
go
a
tenth
of
a
mile
outside
the
border
of
Englewood.
A
It
went
10
miles
so
that
has
been
addressed
as
it
relates
to
how
that
system
notifies
yeah
the
backflow
also
a
different
issue,
another
regulatory
issue
that
we
have
we
have
essentially-
and
this
is
a
credit
to
Josh
and
his
staff-
we
did
in
nine
months
what
other
cities
did
in
five
years
to
plan
for
that
program.
So
we
we
didn't,
have
any
of
the
mechanisms
in
place.
A
There
were
no
systems
in
place
and
we
ended
up
with
that
violation
and
essentially
went
from
a
a
paper
copy
program
to
now.
We
have
a
program
where
we're
in
compliance
this
year,
we're
at
we're
at
our
compliance
numbers
for
this
year,
and
we
did
that
in
nine
months,
which
is
is
pretty
unheard
of
in
terms
of
responding
to
an
issue
and
a
lot
of
credit
goes
to
Josh
and
his
staff.
He
did
that
right
after
coming
on
board.
A
That
was
one
of
the
the
main
things
we
had
him
focus
on,
so
both
of
those
issues
well
they're
they're,
slightly
different.
We
we
think
we've
we've
addressed
and
mitigated
to
the
degree
that
we
can
and
ideally
we're
not
facing
another
one
of
those
types
of
issues
anytime
in
the
distant
future,
to
help
it.
F
Helps
I
just
would
like
there
to
be
somebody
in
the
water
department
that
would
be
assigned
to
push
the
panic
button
and
then
release
it
instead
of
having
it
just
go
on
for
days
and
days
and
having
I
mean
I
got
tons
of
phone
calls,
because
people
weren't
sure
if
it
was
over
or
not
and
I
thought
well
I,
don't
understand
why
they
didn't
just
reverse
that
9-1-1
and
tell
everybody
you're.
Okay,
all
is
clear.
F
A
Yeah,
this
is
where
we
rely
on
the
county
for
those
types
of
services
and
the
county,
but
we
we
asked
the
county
to
provide
that
reverse
notification,
but
because
of
the
the
significant
issue
associated
with
the
initial
notification,
they
were
reluctant
to
issue
another
one
because
they
didn't
know
why
the
system
wasn't
working
properly.
So
they
they
told
us.
We
don't
want
to
send
another
one
out,
because
we
don't
understand
why
it
went
to
as
many
people
as
it
did
and
we
don't
want
to
cause
another
round
of
of
of
Metro
Wide
questioning
around
that.
A
So
that
was
that
was
the
issue
specific
to
that
in
a
future
circumstance.
I
would
hope
that
we'd
get
a
little
more
cooperation
on
that.
But
I
think
there
was
a
there's,
a
significant
push
from
City
staff
and
and
the
county
just
wouldn't
do
it
yeah.
F
C
Peter,
didn't
we
have
someone
come
and
join
one
of
our
meetings
and
allow
us
to
express
our
concerns
about.
It
am
I,
remembering
that
correctly
we.
A
Did
yeah,
and
that
was
that's
the.
A
Manager
for
Arapahoe
County
the
who
works
with
specifically
with
Englewood.
He
subsequently
has
left
the
county
and
there's
a
new
gentleman
that
is
in
that
role
and
he's
been
there
for
I
believe
about
I,
want
to
say
about
five
or
six
months
came
from
California
he's
met
with
us
at
the
city
a
few
times,
but
so
we
do
have
we
did.
We
did
have
someone
come
in
and
I
believe.
There
were
a
number
of
appointed
questions
that
were
that
were
addressed
to
him
about
that
exact
issue.
Yeah.
E
Peter,
are
you
anticipating
any
major
budgetary
shifts
or
human
resource
changes
with
with
the
new
burden
of
of
the
reclassification.
A
So
I
think
it's
something
we've
been
planning
for,
so
when
we
originally
put
together
the
financial
plans
and
the
the
master
plans
and
the
financial
plans,
we
left
lead
service
lines
as
an
unfunded
program,
because
if
we
funded
it,
it
drove
the
rates
up
way
too
high
in
2020
to
the
point
where
we
didn't
think
it
was
something
that
was
that
would
have
made
it
through
approval,
and
so
what.
A
We
left
it
out
there
with
the
idea
that
we're
going
to
find
other
sources
for
for
funding
that
so
the
wifia
program
is
one
of
those
points
of
funding
and
then
so
that
provides
19
million
towards
this
program
and
then
the
work,
the
in
the
mean
sign
the
infrastructure
bill
passed
and
we
are,
we
have
just
been
just
in
the
last
few
weeks-
have
been
invited
and
we
got
our
Loi
approved
and
we've
been
invited
to
apply
for
70
million
dollars
of
infrastructure
bill
money,
which
is
split,
52
percent,
low
interest,
loan,
48
Grant,
and
so
that's
a
significant.
A
So
if
you
think
about
70
million
dollars,
that's
about
34
million
dollars
of
grant
funding
to
help
address
our
lead
service
lines.
So
we
think
overall
from
that
that
that
strategy
of
of
parking
it
off
to
the
side
and
realizing
we
need
to
figure
out
how
to
fund
it
differently
has
actually
worked
out
in.
You
know
we're
fortunate
in
the
fact
that
there
was
a
there
was
an
infrastructure
bill
that
that
is
targeted,
lead
service
lines
as
it
relates
to
Staffing.
A
We
don't
have
the
in-house
capability
to
run
this
program,
and
so
we
have
an
RFP,
that's
going
to
release
I
believe
in
the
next
week
or
two
for
a
program
manager,
and
so
what
that
is
is
that
is
a
outside
consulting
firm
to
essentially
run
this
as
a
turnkey
program.
They
will
have
a
project
manager
that
coordinates
with
one
of
our
project
managers,
but
as
it
relates
to
all
aspects
of
executing
the
lead
and
the
lead
service
line
replacement
program
that
will
be
a
contracted
out
program
for
probably
the
next
five
to
seven
years.
E
A
Still
yours,
okay
up
next,
it
must
be
the
regulatory
month
for
for
discussing
things.
We
have
a.
We
have
another
regulatory
pressure,
that's
that's
affecting
us,
which
is
pfos.
I
know.
We've
talked
about
this
a
little
bit.
A
We
have
been
working
with
the
the
state
in
terms
of
what
our
notification
requirements
are
going
to
be
around
pfos,
so
these
are
forever
chemicals.
This
is
the
stuff
that's
in
Teflon
and
firefighting,
foam
and
Gore-Tex,
and
food
packaging
and
all
all
those
kinds
of
issues
and
the
target
from
a
regulatory
perspective
is
on
the
water
system,
because
the
water
system
is
an
easy
place
to
Target,
removing
pfos
well.
A
The
first
step
is
understanding
where
we
have
P5,
so
we
just
we
just
got
new
testing
data
back
and
our
numbers
are
lower
than
they
were
a
few
years
ago
when
we
tested,
however,
we
still
have
low
levels
of
pfos
that
exceed
the
advisory
or
the
guidance
level,
the
health
and
the
health
health
advisory
level.
So
it's
not
a
regulatory
level.
It's
a
health
advisory
level
which
is
a
which
is
what
the
EPA
came
out
with
this
summer.
A
So
what
it's
going
to
entail
is
we
are
going
to
have
to
provide
a
public
notice
to
all
of
our
customers.
We
are
working
with
the
state
right
now,
as
it
relates
to
what
that's
going
to
look
like
and
what
kind
of
information
we
have
to
send
out.
A
number
of
other
utilities
have
already
done
this,
like
Denver
water
has
done
this.
Aurora
water
has
done
this,
so
we
are
working
with
them
to
get
consistent
messaging
and
it's
something
that
will
likely
need
to
be
need
to
do
in
the
next
30
to
45
days.
A
What
I've
I've
talked
I
was
just
talking
to
Josh
about
this
this
afternoon,
and
what
I
asked
him
to
do
was
see
if
we
could
get
the
state
to
allow
us
to
send
it
in
February
and
the
reason.
A
Why
is
because
we
have
a
study
session
at
Council
right
now
on
on
some
other
on
the
large
utility
designation,
and
so
what
I
wanted
to
do
was
provide
a
a
an
update
on
this
as
well,
in
advance
of
every
customer
you're
being
notified
about
the
fact
that
there's
pfos
in
the
water
so
we're
we're
trying
to
work
through
that.
We
don't
know
if
they're
going
to
give
us
that
that
that
timing,
but
we're
hopeful
that
they
will
because
they'll
make
it
easier
for
us
from
a
notification
process.
A
The
we'll
we'll
pull
that
information
together.
Once
we
get
the
that
final
table
of
what
those
results
are,
and
that
will
be
part
of
that
communication,
but
I
think
overall,
what
would
these
two
issues?
What
it's,
what
it's
really
highlighting
is
the
the
regulatory
landscape
is
becoming
more
and
more
difficult
for
not
just
us
as
a
water
provider,
but
at
South
Platte
renew
we're
dealing
with
the
same
regulatory
landscape
issues
around
pfos.
A
It
affects
our
discharge
amount
and
it
also
the
water
levels
in
the
water
discharge,
but
also
affects
our
biosolids
significantly,
which
we're
we're
concerned
about.
So
this
is
one
of
those
issues
that
is
is
creating
a
lot
of
challenge
across
the
U.S.
That's
that
we
have
now
been
officially
notified
by
the
state
that
we're
going
to
have
to
create
a
make
up
a
public
notification
on
foreign.
H
Yes,
sir,
thank
you
so
much
hi
everybody
hi
Peter.
Thank
you
for
taking
my
question.
I
was
wondering
so
once
you're
notified
in
public
about
this
situation.
What
are
the
recommendations?
I
personally
haven't
done
huge
research
on
pfas,
but
do
they
have
receptors?
Does
our
skin
has
receptors
for
this
or
because
I'm
thinking?
H
A
So
there's
a
so
if
you
have,
if
you
have
like
a
pizza
box
that
you
know
doesn't
absorb
grease,
that's
likely
because
there's
a
certain
amount
of
pfos
on
that,
and
so
that
pfos
is
something
that
that
affects
food.
So
there
it
is
actually
much
more
prevalent
in
the
food
we
consume
than
it
is
in
the
water,
but
to
try
and
regulate
it
through
they're.
A
Trying
to
regulate
it
and
remove
it
through
through
food
approaches
is
harder,
it's
easier
from
a
water
perspective,
because
there's
a
filtration
point
and
and
there
can
be
a
requirement
to
put
in
some
kind
of
filtration
so
as
it
stands
right
now,
the
the
levels
that
we
have
are
are
typically
higher
than
what
we
all
have
in
our
blood
systems.
Right
now,
based
on
just
normal
exposure
and
the
the
health
advisory
number
is
specific
to
certain
segments
of
the
population.
A
So
pregnant
women
is
one
of
the
health
advisory
numbers
and
the
number
is
extremely
low.
It's
I
think
it's
four
parts
per
quadrillion
and
I
think
someone
I
have
an
analogy
for
that.
It's
like
four
drops
in
a
thousand
olympic
sized
swimming
pools,
it's
a
it's
a
significantly
small
number,
but
it's!
But
it's
what
they've
determined
as
the
health
advisory
number
at
the
EPA.
A
A
We
had
a
presentation
for
the
State
toxicologist
around
pfas
and
we're
struggling
as
water
providers,
because
in
one
sense
we
want
to
make
sure
that
people
don't
lose
confidence
in
the
public
water
system
and,
on
the
other
sense,
you've
got
a
federal
regulatory
approach
that
is
driving
down
the
exposure
limit
to
essentially
the
levels
of
non-detect
and
so
we're
watching
how
this
regulatory
landscape
plays
out
over
the
next
several
months,
they're
they're
in
the
process
of
of
forming
regulations
on
this.
A
We
are
actively
part
of
that,
but
this
is
going
to
be
something
that
every
water
provider
has
to
deal
with
over
the
next
several
years.
So
it's
really
it's!
It's
really
that
that
those
those
high
risk
groups
which
is
pregnant,
women
and-
and
you
know,
I-
think
it's
immunocompromised
or
there's
there's
a
list
and
it's
in
the
it's
in
the
health
advisory.
H
And
so
I
guess
my
question
is:
if
you're
warned
that
the
customers
and
the
residents
of
this
I
mean,
is
their
solution
attached
to
that
or
is
the
solution?
Is
everybody
go
buy
your
filtered
water.
A
Yeah
great
question
and
I
think
that
that's
a
lot
of
what
what
a
number
of
water
providers
are
are
struggling
with,
because
right
now
we
don't
know
what
the
solution
is.
We
don't
know
what
the
right
solution
is
and
this,
if,
if,
if
we're
told
to
implement
a
solution,
this
could
be
a
very
expensive
solution,
and
so
all
the
fine
I've
said
this
on
this
SBR
side
as
well.
A
All
the
financial
models
do
not
account
for
pfas
or
any
amount
of
of
regulatory
regulatory,
regulatory
driven,
Capital
Investments
that
are
required
to
address
it.
So
anything
that
comes
down
to
pfos
Road
in
terms
of
requirements.
We
are
going
to
have
to
modify
all
of
our
financial
plans
in
in
both
organizations.
So
as
it
relates
to
what
do
you
do
it
really
comes
up?
It
comes
down
to
you,
know
personal
choice
of
of
what
you
know
acceptable
risk,
and,
and
again
it's
not
a
regulatory
number.
It's
a
health
advisory
number
right
now.
A
H
A
H
H
A
A
Peter,
just
the
look
ahead
schedule,
you
can
see
what
we
have
coming
up
for
the
next
few
months,
just
if
there
are
any
any
questions
on
that,
but
it's
all
it's
all
pretty
standard
stuff.
I,
think
that
you
know
we're
continuing
to
to
execute
on
the
the
plans
and
and
and
hire
the
right
contractors
to
get
the
programs
in
place
and
and
get
some
of
these
programs
up
and
running
yeah,
so
that
I
had
just
one
other
one.
A
Other
quick
comment
that
I
just
wanted
to
make
about
where
we
are
this
year
has
been
a
a
growth
year.
I
would
say
for
this
utility
we
have.
We
have
filled
out
a
significant
amount
of
of
the
Staffing
requirements.
The
Staffing
structure
that
we've
identified
over
the
past
couple
years
and
I
really
feel
like
we're
in
this
transition
that
we're
in
this
transitionary
place
where
we
have
we've
brought
in
a
a
number
of
people
with
high
levels
of
expertise.
We've
got
contracts
in
place.
We've
got
plans
in
place.
A
We're
in
designs,
moving
into
construction
and
I,
really
feel
like
we're
we're
foised
for
2023
to
really
to
really
move
into
the
future.
In
a
way,
that
is,
that
is
not
so
reactive,
but
is
much
more
proactive
in
how
we're
how
we're
leading
how
we're
addressing
these
utility
and
I
want
to
thank
the
board
for
sticking
with
us.
A
Through
this,
it
has
been
a
challenging
two
and
a
half
year
since
since
March
of
2020,
when
I
when
I
started,
but
your
support
has
been
tremendous
and
even
through
some
of
those
you
know
through
those
violations
and
through
those
those
issues
that
we're
having
I,
think
we're
getting
there
we're
getting
to
the
point
where
we're
turning
a
corner
and
we're
we're
the
the
future
is
looking
brighter.
A
So
I
just
want
to
I
want
to
express
my
thanks
to
the
board
since
we're
at
the
end
of
the
year,
and
really
just
I'm
I'm
optimistic
about
where
we're
headed
into
the
future
as
a
utility.
A
H
I,
just
personally
want
to
thank
Peter
for
spending
the
time.
Educating
me
on
on
one-on-one
level
of
understanding
how
the
waters
is
so
I.
Don't
take
the
board's
time
and
I
want
to
thank
you
Peter
for
everything
you
do.
It's
just
I
have
much
more
clarity,
I'm,
so
thankful
for
your
presence
with
it
and
everything
you
do
Beyond
and
and
every
your
expertise
and
care
I
want
to.
Thank
you
from
my
from
my
personal
end
for
everybody
else.
That
may
not
be
here.
Thank
you.
So
much.
C
A
F
That
impact,
then
the
amount
of
water
that
you
have
planned
for
the
city
growth.
Does
that
change
that
number
then
from
I
think
you
could
go
up
to
the
50
or
55
000
and
and
be
fine.
F
A
Factored
in
it's
it's
it's
baked
into
the
per
capita
number
that
we
use,
and
so
the
per
capita
is
looking
across
the
the
the
the
users
of
the
system.
So,
if
something's
coming
into
the
hospital,
the
hospital
is
using
a
certain
amount
of
water
to
serve
that
population.
That's
coming
in
from
outside
to
use
it
that
is
in
our
per
capita
number.
So
we
we
it
does
not
effective
in
that
respect
it
it's.
It
is
incorporated
into
those
numbers.
Okay,.
A
No
and
I
I
would
say
our
planning
shows
that
we're
still
we're
still
we've.
We've
still
got
a
lot
of
cushion
in
our
our
water
rights
portfolio
right
now,
as
it
stands
that
could
change.
But
right
now
we
anticipate
that
somewhere
around
55
000
is
where,
where
we
start
to
probably
hit
the
hit,
the
limit
and
I
think
as
I
as
I
may
have
mentioned,
that
it's
not
a
it's,
not
a
year-round
limit
that
we
have
a.
A
We
have
a
period
of
time
in
the
fall,
which
is
really
when
the
water
supply
challenge
occurs
for
most
utilities,
because
you've
gotten
through
the
dry
summer,
but
you
haven't,
got
the
the
winter
snow
and
runoff,
and
so
it's
in
that
time
period
that
we
hit
this.
A
This
point
where
we
we
have
where
we
get
past
55
000
from
a
population
number
and
it
becomes
a
challenge,
but
we
we
think,
where
there's
a
fair
amount
of
room
right
now,
based
on
the
growth
pattern
for
the
for
the
city
to
accommodate
it
from
a
water
perspective.
Okay,.
C
Not
seeing
any
other
questions
all
right
well,
good.
Thank
you
Peter.
Thank
thank
you,
everybody.
This
is
it
for
the
year.
I
hope
everyone
has
a
happy
holiday
and
we
are
adjourned.
Thank.