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We
brought
it
was
up
for
a
discussion
in
MWBE
when
I
found
out
that
there
was
a
there
was
one
employee
that
was
terminated
or
left
I'm,
not
sure
the
circumstances,
but
it's
my
opinion
with
a
2.1
million
dollar
contract
that
there
is
certainly
an
opportunity
for
a
local
minority
or
a
woman
to
be
employed
on
that
job,
and
if
he
can't
figure
out
a
way,
we
can
help
him
figure
out
a
way
or
I
would
like
to
look
at
what
other
options
we
have
but
I'm
uncomfortable
moving
forward
with
that.
Mr.
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Our
chair
members,
the
committee
good
evening,
the
corporation
council
and
I
have
been
talking
about
some
options
looking
at
this
particular
contractor
and
their
future
work
with
the
city
of
Evanston,
and
so
that
is
under
our
review
and
I.
Think
we'll
be
able
to
come
back
to
the
council
here
in
the
next
several
weeks
with
additional
information.
That's.
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Staff
recommends
that
the
city
manager
be
authorized
to
execute
an
agreement
with
a
town
tennis.
The
contract
is
for
three
years
with
a
mutual
option
to
renew
for
two
additional
one-year
options.
The
contract
period
will
run
from
January
1
through
December
31st
2020
revenue
from
program
registrations
are
deposited
into
our
general
fund,
Chandler
recreation
program
fees
account
as
stated,
and
instruction
expenses
are
paid
from
that
fund.
Compensation
from
the
vendor
is
based
on
percentages
of
resident
rate
that
revenue
collected
from
program
registrations,
and
this
is
for
action.
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Okay
said
the
answers,
so
this
I
know
nothing
about
tennis.
I
know
nothing
about
running
a
tennis
program,
but
I've
learned
a
lot
about
it.
Lately
I've
learned
a
lot
about
how
not
to
do
it
lately,
and
it
seems
that
there
are
numerous
people
who
have
attempted
to
really
get
involved
and
participate
in
our
program
and
they've
been
very
dissatisfied
and
we've
not
had
any.
A
At
tennis,
and
so
one
of
the
concerns
was,
you
know,
it
was
really
a
shame.
This
is
other
speaking.
It's
really
a
shame
that
Robert
chrome
did
not
plan
for
an
indoor
tennis
and
what
and
the
reason
they're
not
planning
for
that
is
because
we
don't
have
a
tennis
program
that
is
advanced
enough
for
indoor
tennis
and
then
today
mr.
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Hemmingway
explained
that
our
tennis
court
outdoor
tennis
courts
are
in
pretty
bad
shape
and
I
mean
it
just
seems,
and
then
the
tennis
people
also
have
kids
in
soccer
and
in
indoor
baseball
and
other
things
and
they're
saying
these
programs
are
the
most
amazing
programs.
You've
ever
seen.
They
are
run
beautifully
and
they
are
other
communities
are
jealous
of
them
and
they,
you
know,
they
covet
our
programs,
but
tennis
yeah.
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So
I,
don't
I've
been
promised
that
we
are
going
to
work
very
carefully
with
this
person
that
we
keep
giving
these
big
contracts
to
to
do
a
better
job
and
I'm
thinking.
You
know
a
three
year
contract
with
all
these
extensions
doesn't
really
make
sense.
I
think
we
ought
to
cut
the
contract
short
a
little,
maybe
a
two-year
contract
so
that
we
can
get
on
top
of
this,
and
definitely
not
all
these
extensions
so
that
we
can
see
I'm
sure
this
person
can
improve.
I
have
no
doubt
about
that,
so
we
just
cut
it.
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But
that's
don't
you
want
to
do
that
if
you
know
they're,
stealing
money
or
something
you
don't
want
to
do
that
if
they're
just
lazy
and
say
you
know
so,
I
mean
I,
don't
want
to
cut
them
off
at
the
knees
we've
had
them.
It's
our
fault
that
we've
had
them
all
this
time
and
not
you
know
and
not
grown
the
program
so
to
speak
so
I'm
as
I
told
the
city
manager
today,
I'm,
not
the
authority
here,
I'm
trying
to
represent
people
who
came
to
me.
I
During
this
process
we
made
a
commitment
as
a
department
to
autumn
Iranian,
not
just
her
but
to
the
community
that
the
administrative
functions
that
the
programmer
was
the
contractor
struggled
with
in
terms
of
promotion,
other
classes,
making
sure
registrants
are
aware
of
the
information
that
a
class
is,
and
all
of
that
the
department
is
going
to
take
over
themselves
we're
going
to
support
the
contractor
so
that
all
admin
functions
fall
on
the
department,
and
these
are
things
that
you
know
as
we
became
aware
of
them.
It's
it's
an
easy
adjustment
for
us
to
do
so.
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The
contractor
who's
hired
to
teach
tennis
and
promote
tennis.
Lessons
can
focus
on
that.
So
we'll
we'll
do
that.
Nothing.
That
has
been
a
big
part
of
some
of
the
challenges
that
have
come
to
my
attention
and
so
now
that
we
are
aware
of
them.
We're
gonna
address
them
as
far
as
the
time
frame
autumn
and
Randy
I
have
no
problem
with
us,
changing
it
as
you
see
fit
and
we'll
just
let
the
convent
or
know
that
that's
what
it
is
and
we'll
address
it.
If
they
meet
our
new
standards,
they
have
no
problem.
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Okay,
there
are
other
activities
that
are
our
youth
sports,
seem
to
thrive
and
do
much
better.
At
autumn
and
rainy
day,
the
example
of
soccer
I'll
give
you
figure
skating
I'll,
give
you
hockey
even
to
some
degree,
you
considered
a
fam
program
at
fluid
Jourdain,
a
high-end
basketball
program
tennis.
We
have
not
reached
that
level
of
programming
success.
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We
are
a
beginners
level
introductory
level
program,
and
so
we
have
struggled
with
maintaining
the
higher
end
or
if
there
is
and
struggle,
maybe
it
is
been
a
struggle,
but
the
challenge
is,
if
there's
an
advanced
class,
but
there's
only
one
person
registered.
We
have
to
do
a
better
job
in
administering
the
program
where
you're
trying
to
you
know
you
combine
your
advanced
classes
at
a
time
where
you
can
get
multiple
people,
and
so
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
have
come
been
revealed
during
this
process.
I
Classes
are
being
cancelled
for
individuals
at
the
last
minute
and
those
kinds
of
things,
so
we
we
just
have
to
help
we're
going
to
step
in
and
address
those
issues
and
combine
classes.
We
can
look
at
it
as
a
department,
combine
the
classes
or
need
to
be
make
that
communication
to
the
participants
and
that
way,
hopefully,
we
can
start
to
develop
a
stronger,
more
robust
tennis
program.
We're.
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Don't
know
much
about
it
either,
but
I
do
know
two
well-known
tennis
instructors
in
town
that
I'll
pass
along
their
names.
You
I
don't
know
if
they
contract
with
them
and
if
there's
some
issues
that
I
need
to
know,
we
can
talk
about
it
offline.
Any
opportunity
to
use
local
talent
may
help
with
the
recruitment.
That's.
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So
this
is
a
renewal
for
the
line
of
credit.
Previously
there
was
a
line
of
credit
that
the
city
had
entered
into,
with
first
being
a
trust
for
West,
Evanston
TIF
and
the
Howard
Ridge
TIF,
and
that
was
just
one
letter
of
credit.
So
what
staff
is
requesting
here
is
to
kind
of
separate
those
and
create
a
second
letter
of
credit
for
the
projects
for
Howard,
Ridge
TIF
and
then
keep
that
remaining
letter
of
credit
and
just
designate
that
for
West
Evanston.
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So
the
projects
for
the
Howard
Ridge
TIF
that
are
listed
are
essentially
the
Howard
Street
Theatre
about
1.5
million
dollars
and
then
2
million
dollars
for
the
100
to
130,
West,
Chicago,
Development
and
I
see
Paul's
AMA
Zac.
Here.
If
you
have
any
questions
about
those
individual
projects
and
then
continuing
with
the
current
letter
of
credit
that
we
have,
that
was
approved
in
2017,
the
main
project
for
West
Evanston
TIF
was
on
church
and
Darrow
too
purchased
and
Rehab
properties.
There
is
there
any
additional
information.
I
can
provide.
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Original
plan
they
had
a
development
from
where
that
car
washes
are
noise
down
to
approximately,
where
that's
I
think
that's
what
comes
through
there.
At
the
end
of
Walgreens
there,
that
area
there
was
designated
one,
they
were
gonna,
be
building
townhouses
and
things
like
in
that
area,
and
my
concern
is
that
doe
had
that
plan
been
changed
and
but
I'm
not
aware
of
any
properties
on
the
church
in
Darrell
I
know,
there's
a
empty
lot
there,
but
I
don't
know
of
any
properties
there
to
be
purchased.
Paul.
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K
Madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
and
Paul's
Alma
Zack
economic
development
manager,
I
think
when
mr.
Sutton's
referencing
is
the
West
Evanston
TIF
boundary,
which
included
vacant
railroad,
right-of-way,
okay,
if
there's
properties,
so
so
the
question
I
think
you
have
is:
has
a
plan
changed
or
no
I,
think
I
think
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
shore
up
the
financing
of
the
West
$0.07
if
it
because
of
the
account
of
the
economic
turn
down
back
almost
a
decade
ago,
we're
still
recovering
from
that
in
that
TIF
district.
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The
only
reason
we're
coming
forth
with
this
now
is,
as
you
stated,
the
state
of
Illinois
has
decided
that
we
should
all
have
a
uniform
policy
or
a
policy
that
at
least
meets
minimum
requirements,
and
this
policy
was
developed
in
accordance
with
some
other
municipalities
in
the
area
and
therefore
we
feel
that
it
suits
the
needs
of
the
city,
as
well
as
addressing
some
areas
that
our
current
ordinance
didn't.
Dress.
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Yes,
a5
resolution
38
r17,
appointing
a
director
and
an
alternate
director
to
the
solid
waste
agency
of
northern
Cook
County.
It's
recommended
that
we
appoint
our
Mayor
Steve
Haggerty
to
the
board
of
directors.
As
our
representative,
with
an
alternate
director
being
Wally
Bob
quits,
our
city
manager,
I,
move.
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B
You
madam
chair
I'd,
like
to
move
item
a6.
This
is
for
a
reduction
ordinance,
2
0
18,
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
execute
a
lease
of
property
located
at
25,
25,
Church
Street
for
recreational
uses,
and
so
staff
is
recommending
the
ordinance
authorizing
city
manager
to
enter
into
the
50-year
lease
agreement
with
the
Metropolitan
Water
Reclamation
District
of
for
the
real
property
of
2525
Church
Street.
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Thank
you
very
much
good
evening,
I'd
like
to
ask
you
if
you
could
accept
this,
because
it
sounds
like
they're
beautiful
out
there
for
the
kids,
because
then
they
go
off
the
street
and
go
to
the
park
and
see
the
waterfall.
Are
we
I'm
from
Chicago
and
years
ago
we
used
to
have
open
rugs,
you
see,
have
a
waterfall
and
it
was
very
beautiful
and
asked
if
the
kids
will
enjoy
us.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
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Can
we
move?
Can
we
make
this
for
action?
Sure,
I,
so,
okay,
so
staff
worked
very
hard
with
MW
Rd
to
get
an
appropriate
agreement
very
long
term
for
us
to
extend
public
recreation
use
at
this
Park
and
I'm
hopeful
that
we
can
work
long-term
towards
building
something
really
exciting
they're
like
super
exciting,
and
we
approved
in
our
budget
money
to
work
towards
the
demolition
in
possibly
some
site,
improvements
that
are
needed
for
the
property,
so
I'm,
hoping
that
we
don't
have
any
objections
and
we
can
move
forward
for
for
action
on
this.
It's.
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B
So
it
was
during
that
time
that
a
charge
was
discovered
where
someone's
overcharged
for
the
actual
garbage
cans,
and
so
when
I
looked
into
it,
our
city
policy
only
allows
us
or
it's
a
discretionary
thing.
So
it's
not.
It
isn't
an
ordinance.
It
isn't
a
lot
just
discretionary
thing
where
the
staff
only
goes
back
one
year,
whereas
in
this
particular
scenario
it
was
I,
think
maybe
five
years
of
overpayment,
and
so
when
I
brought
it
to
the
city
manager's
attention,
he
felt
that
it
was
a
policy
that
need
to
be
discussed
on
the
council
level.
B
B
M
Good
evening
madam
chair
and
members
Dave
stone
that
Public
Works
Agency
director
part
of
the
reason
that
we
do,
that
is
for
liability
reasons,
I
mean
if
we
somebody
can
document
that
they've
been
overpaying
for
ten
years,
it
could
be
of
substantial
reimbursement
that
the
city
would
have
to
make.
That
may
not
necessarily
be
within
our
budgetary
purposes.
M
Similarly,
if
we
find
out
that
we
haven't
been
charging
anybody,
we
only
go
back
a
year
as
well,
so
there
are
situations
where
somebody
has
a
cart
and
we're
on
aware
that
they
have
the
additional
cart
or
have
a
card
at
all,
and
we
only
go
back
one
year
to
charge
them
for
that
as
well.
So
if,
if
you
pass
a
policy
which
is
your
I,
we
just
would
ask
you
to
consider
both
ends
of
that
as
well.
M
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B
M
The
water
fund
there
it's
it's
caught
right
away.
If
you
know
there
I,
don't
think
that
we've
ever
had
anything
more
than
you
know
two
months
and
the
water
fund,
because
we're
billing
every
two
months
we're
keeping
an
eye
on
it.
The
sanitation
carts
are
are
a
larger
challenge
for
us.
We
have
so
many
cards
out
there.
We
really
don't
have
any
system
for
tracking
the
carts.
M
M
At
this
point
in
time,
though,
we
have
reimbursements,
I
can
tell
you
within
the
past
three
years
our
total
amount
of
reimbursements
have
ANU
the
one
year.
It
was
a
total
of
five
thousand
four
hundred
and
sixty
four
hundred
and
thirty
six
dollars
more
recently
were
more
around
the
four
thousand
dollar
total,
but
that
includes
only
reimbursement
for
up
to
twelve
month
period.
M
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M
B
M
Don't
have
statistics
on
that
I
only
look
to
three
funds
coming
up
here.
You
only
recently
confirmed
that
we
only
if
we
find
somebody
that
we
haven't
build,
that
we
only
bill
them
back
here
as
well.
That's
been
our
policy
I,
don't
know
the
statistics
on
how
many
of
those
have
occurred.
I
can
get
you
more
information,
so.
B
Let's
divide
this
in
half:
let's
deal
with
what
we
do
know,
which
is
the
overpayment
which
is
pretty
straightforward,
Dave
and
then
and
when
you
have
something
less
antidotal
and
more
concrete,
where
we
did
not
properly
build.
If
you
have
one
or
two
examples:
let's
look
at
those
and
then
make
a
decision
on
the
policy
so.
A
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We
can
make
every
developer
that
comes
to
town,
put
affordable
units
in
their
building
and
what
we'll
have
is
people
with
little
children
being
put
into
high-rise
buildings,
which
I
think
is
just
the
worst
idea
in
the
world
having
them
live
downtown,
dragging
their
kids
to
school
on
a
bus
whatever
or
we
can.
We
can
subsidize
people,
as
the
federal
government
has
done
for
years
and
they've
gotten
worse
at
it,
because
they're
not
providing
enough
money
now
to
pay
going
rents
in
market-rate
housing
which
helps
everybody.
A
A
You
can't
just
go
out
on
the
market
and
rent
a
market
rate
unit.
They
have
limits
and
I,
don't
I'm
sure
miss
Payton
can
tell
me
what
the
limit
is
for
unaffordable
for
a
housing
authority
of
Cook
County
3-bedroom
is
in
the
city
of
Evanston.
It's
probably
something
like
what
1200
1300,
but
what
is
it.
F
A
You,
let's
assume
they're
gonna,
have
to
do
that.
So
let's
say
it's
gonna
end
up
being
what
1200
right:
okay,
1200
party
well
I,
looked
for
an
apartment,
a
three-bedroom
apartment
and
602
Oh,
because
I'm,
an
alderman
in
602
of
and
I
had
to
find
one
in
the
eighth
ward.
There
was
no
such
thing:
it's
a
three
bedroom
apartment
and
I
mean
they're,
not
they're,
not
four
thousand,
like
some
of
these
reports
are
showing,
but
there's
no
such
thing.
So
this
that's
how
the
Housing
Authority
works
with
vouchers.
A
This
program
is
not
going
to
work
like
that.
It's
not
going
to
pay
four
thousand
in
rent,
but
it's
not
going
to
pay.
It's
like.
It's
not
gonna,
be
the
bureaucratic
nightmare
that
the
housing
authority
of
Cook
County
is
so,
let's
say,
let's
say
a
Housing
Authority
voucher
person
finds
something
for
$1200
or
$1400.
A
Then
they
have
to
pay
their
utilities.
They
have
to
pay
their
deposit
on
their
utilities.
They
have
to
pay
their
their
their
security
deposit
I
guarantee
you
over
half
of
every.
Maybe
more
than
half
of
every
single
housing
authority
of
Cook
County,
voucher
holder
does
not
have
a
security
deposit.
They
begin
making
the
rounds
to
every
church
in
town.
Tell
me
every
Church
in
town,
the
everybody
wherever
there
is
assistance,
they'll
they'll
come
to
the
city,
maybe
to
the
to
to
the
health
department.
They'll
go
every
they're,
getting
a
voucher.
A
A
But
you
know
that's
not
happening
so
this
program
is
going
to
subsidize
the
beginning,
the
first
all
the
first
steps
of
moving
in,
and
it's
going
to
provide
the
voucher
for
the
the
subsidy
for
three
years
and
it's
it's
it's
going
to
provide
more
than
the
voucher
more
than
the
subsidy
more
than
the
move
in
it's
going
to
provide
for
stability,
and
it's
going
to
relieve
the
stress,
there's
more
there's
more
to
having
affordable
housing
a
voucher
than
just
having
it.
There's
always
stress:
there's
how
am
I
going
to
make
the
next
rent
payment?
A
How
am
I
going
to
buy
clothes?
How
am
I
going
to
you
know
how
am
I
going
to
buy
a
broom
to
clean
up
the
place
when
I
first
move
in
there
is
there's
so
much
to
having
affordable
housing
that
we
never
hear
about.
When
we
hear
you
know,
reclaim
Evanston,
oh
my
god,
they
don't
have
a
clue
about
affordable
housing.
I'm
saying
that
right
now
in
front
of
all
of
you,
they
don't
have
a
clue.
They're
don't
have
a
you.
Do
not
want
to
be
shoving
families,
poor
families,
into
these
high-rise
luxury
apartment
buildings.
A
It
is
the
worst
idea
white
people
ever
had
about
housing,
poor
people,
it's
a
bad
idea.
I,
don't
want
to
live
in
a
high-rise
with
my
little
kids.
Most
people
don't
want
to
live
in
a
high-rise
of
little
kids,
so
I
think
we
ought
to
disabuse
ourselves
of
the
notion
that
rich
developers
should
be
setting
aside
a
whole
bunch
of
Units
when
there
are
a
whole
bunch
of
Units
out
in
the
private
market,
including
the
paid
ins
and
everybody
else
that
need
to
be
rented.
That
are
great.
There
are
three
flats
two
flats.
A
A
I'm
not
sure
you
could
call
it
an
Evanston,
Housing
Authority
I
wouldn't
want
it
to
be
that
I
would
rather
it
just
be
a
housing
program
and
so
I'm,
no,
no
kaidan,
rentals
I,
don't
even
have
a
pot
to
you-know-what
in
so
it's,
but
it's
it's
it's
just
it's
just
a
program
that
can't
exist
without
a
source
of
funds
and
the
the
source
of
funds
is
going
to
depend
on
development
in
the
city
of
Evanston
and
we
have
to
depend
on
developers
building
tall
buildings.
A
I
mean
the
three
years
is
a
pilot,
but
my
expectations
are
that
there's
going
to
be
more
money
and
more
money
and
more
money,
but
the
first
30
people
of
30
families,
they're
going
to
be
told,
look
you
know
if
development
falls
apart
in
the
city
of
Evanston,
you
know
you
better
start
making
plans
to
you
know
for
other
housing,
because
this
depends
on
projects
going
forward
in
this
community.
So
anyway,
all
right
so
alderman,
Braithwaite,
Olney,
Simmons.
B
Thank
You
Alden
Rainey
and
thank
you
for
being
a
leader
to
get
us.
This
point
me
and
Sarah
I'm
gonna
call
you
up.
I
have
a
quick
question.
I
you
know
conceptually
I
would
be
surprised
if
any
of
us
did
not
support
this
plan.
This
has
been
a
conversation
that
we've
had
over
the
last
two
or
three
years.
Just
how
do
we
afford
you
know?
B
How
do
we
expand
our
floral
housing
fund
to
have
an
impact
and
go
directly
to
know
the
residents
that
need
the
most
and
so
I'm
asking
you
a
question
Sarah,
you
know
when
five
six
years
ago
we
had
someone
on
staff
under
Steve,
Griffin's
term,
where
I
want
to
say
that
the
city
did
emergency
rental
assistance
and
some
other
programs
that
was
executed
by
ELISA
Dean
at
the
time.
So
my
question
is
the
framework:
is
there
I
mean
somewhere
there
Files
forms
just
a
procedure
to
fun
to
execute
this.
A
B
N
Know
Braithwaite:
we
haven't
really
done
an
ongoing
rental
support
program
like
what
alderman
Rainey
is
talking
about
there.
We've
done
limited
more
like
what
is
being
done
in
our
Health
and
Human
Services
Department
right
now
with
the
emergency
assistance,
so
we
would
have
to
put
together
a
system
to
maintain
what
alderman
Rainey
is
talking
about
and
I
think
there's
very
strong
support
in
general
for
vote.
Your
programs
to
address
certain
needs
of
certain
people
and
that
alderman
Rainey's
point
is.
We
need
to
find
the
ongoing
source
of
support
for
that
and
other
things.
N
One
of
the
items
in
addition
to
looking
at
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
and
whether
it
generates
on-site
units
or
funds
in
lieu
of
on-site
units
or
a
combination,
is
also
to
look
at
other
potential
sources
of
revenue
on
an
ongoing
basis
that
alderman
Rainey
actually
brought
up
at
the
meeting
on
the
30th
and
I.
Think
that's
our
challenge.
B
D
F
A
B
A
N
Give
you
a
little
bit
of
perspective,
our
KIBRA
program,
that
we
use
home
funds
for
we
provided
22
families
approximately
two
years,
each
of
support
for
with
a
half
a
million
dollars,
so
10%
of
anything
we
get
in
a
development
fee
probably
wouldn't
provide
the
long-term
sustainability
that
you're
talking
about
for
a
larger
number
and
I.
Think
that's
something
that
we
have
to
work
out
and
alderman
Rainey
had
had
certain
income
levels
and
things
like
that
that
we'd
have
to
look
at
and
but
I
think
what
staff
is
is.
N
A
A
Have
it
ready
to
go
and
the
program
that
I
developed,
including
like
well
over
a
hundred
and
some
odd
thousand
dollars
for
staff
work,
was
a
million
for
a
three-year
program
for
30
families,
all
inclusive
of
everything
you
know
with
rents,
ranging
from
I,
don't
know
it's
from
$1,200
to
I,
don't
know
well
over
2,000
a
month
$2,400
a
month
over
a
three-year
period.
It
you
know.
B
A
A
They
can't
walk
up
these
three-story
walk-up,
seni
more
and
so
the
smaller
units
are
great
for
people
who
need
who
are
perfectly
capable
of
living
on
their
own,
who
need
to
be
in
a
space
that
is
accessible.
So
there
is
some
reason
for
affordable
housing
in
the
bigger
buildings,
but
you
know
to
say:
well,
we
gotta
have
two
and
three
large
units
in
these
buildings,
so
we
can
stuff
families
in
them,
not
so
much.
N
A
I
was
thinking
about
this
today,
I
was
thinking
of
this
guy
who
came,
and
we
were
discussing
the
Airbnb,
and
he
was
saying
that
you
know
he
lives
in
Reno
or
Tahoe
or
someplace,
and
he
has
this
three
unit
building
and
he
has
to
have
Airbnb,
because
the
students
are
being
made
to
live
on
campus
now
and
nobody
will
ventus
his
units
and
I'm
thinking
right.
You
know,
families
would
rent
your
units,
it
would
be
perfect.
A
three
flat
I
mean
this.
This
would
be
a
perfect
way.
A
families
could
rent
his
units.
A
K
N
H
N
A
Any
reason
why
we
can't
all
be
thinking
about
it,
but
I
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
have
support
for
it,
because
you
know
I
mean
like
this
project.
We've
got
before
us
tonight.
I
mean
that
money
is
going
to
st.
Vincent,
DePaul
or
something
you
know.
So
it's
important
that
one
size
does
not
fit
all
and
this
program
does
not
fit
homeless
people.
You
know
this
program,
just
does
not
you.
You
can't
have
one
program
that
fits
everybody.
Those
programs
don't
work.
A
N
N
A
D
It
is
right
up
my
alley
and
a
concern
and
a
priority,
but
it
doesn't
speak
to
the
redirection.
I
was
trying
to
go
on
this
last
agenda
item.
So
absolutely
we
need
to
support
homeownership
expand
homeownership,
find
ways
to
keep
moderate
income
families
in
the
community
and
I'm,
hoping
that
we
come
up
with
some
strategies
and
designate
funding
from
our
affordable
housing.
For
that,
but
more
of
what
I
was
trying
to
get
at
is
how
we
can
use
some
of
our
funds
to
support
the
landlords
and
I.
D
Don't
know
if
I'm
missing
that
in
some
of
these
discussion
points,
but
the
landlords
that
are
providing
the
truly
organic,
affordable
housing
that
has
been
here
and
sustained
families
for
generations.
What
more
can
we
do
to
support
the
improvements
that
they
need?
So
they
are
having
affordable
units,
sometimes
without
subsidies
and
programming,
and
no
support
sometimes
from
the
city,
and
they
have,
with
our
housing
stock
being
very
dated
and
expensive
to
maintain
and
needing
weatherization.
What
can
we
do
to
support
them?
I,
don't
know
that
we're
doing
enough.
D
I
know
that
we
think
creatively
about
economic
development
funds
and
supporting
businesses,
and
we
support
the
renters.
And
but
how
can
we
do
more
to
support
those
homeowners
with
those
property
owners
that
are
landlords
without
making
them
have
to
take
a
lien
against
their
house,
since
they
are
providing
a
service
for
our
community
to
keep
families
in
the
community?.
N
The
housing,
the
CDBG
housing
rehab
program
has,
for
many
years
help
both
owner-occupant
fix
up
their
own
homes
and
is
avail
able
to
owners
of
rental
properties.
Investment
properties,
for
you
know
improving
their
properties.
That
has
always
been
done
as
a
loan,
although
many
of
them
are
done
is
titled
as
deferred
loans,
in
other
words,
they
don't
necessarily
get
paid
back
until
the
property
is
sold
because
the
buildings
don't
provide
cash
flow.
That
allows
them
to
pay
debt
service
and
that's
the
reason
it's
set
up.
That
way.
N
Could
that
be
expanded
using
other
funds
as
they
are
available,
it
could
be
I.
Think
one
of
the
challenges
is
again:
we
have
to
have
an
ongoing
source.
If
we're
not
going
to
do
loans
and
don't
have
any
chance
of
having
it
come
back
and
be
our
source
of
future
projects,
then
we
have
to
have
a
much
larger
source
of
ongoing
funding
for
that
and
that's
the
funding
challenge
again
well.
So.
D
D
Their
grants
they're
not
loans
right
right.
So
with
that
said,
we
have
a
storefront
modernization.
We
have
facade,
we
have
grants,
they
may
be
matching,
but
they
are
grant
and
I
would
like
us
to
consider
a
grant
option
for
property
owners
that
can
show
income
qualifying
tenants
and
we
can
support
them
with
improvements
with
some
guidelines
and
some
limitations,
but
we
have
students
that
are
living
in
terrible
conditions.
D
We
have
residents
that
are
tenants
that
are
living
in
bad
conditions
and
if
those
property
owners
fit
within
a
guideline,
they
income
qualify,
the
tenant
income
qualifies
I'm,
sure
there's
some
way.
We
can
figure
out
a
way
that
it's
fair
and
it's
not
just
going
to
like
a
slumlord
but
a
responsible
property
owner
that
wants
to
provide
quality
housing
for
our
residents,
but
then
themselves
are
not
able
to
afford.
D
The
improvement
is
happening
all
over
our
ward
for
sure,
where
we
have
families
property
owners
that
can't
afford
the
improvement
that
they
would
like
to
be
able
to
extend
to
their
tenants
and
I.
Don't
know
that
we've
ever
had
a
program
that
supports
that
person
other
than
the
the
CDBG
loan
that
you're
talking
about
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
a
discussion
point
as
well,
when
we
consider
what
our
options
are
to
support
those
landlords.
There's.
A
N
A
B
If
I
could
file,
but
what's
the
bottom
seems
because
I
completely
understand
what
you
say
and
I'll
use
miss
Payton
as
an
example.
Someone
who's
come
time
and
time
again.
So
if
we
were
to
create
a
pilot
program,
right
dollar
amount,
125,000
out
of
our
affordable
housing
funds
there's
enough
there
and
then
we
would
specifically
target
homes
that
are
in
our
CBD
G
target
area.
So
obviously
we're
not
gonna
spend.
G
B
So
again,
that's
just
we're
starting
I
mean
we
can
expand
it
to
wherever,
but
I
think
if
you're
talking
about
affordable
housing,
if
you're
talking
about
families
who
need
to
make
repairs
who
consciously
are
deciding
to
keep
their
rents
affordable,
that's
a
good
place
to
start,
and
then,
if
it
works,
then
we
can
expand
it.
And
so
what
I
hear
all
the
women
say
and
I
have
that's
the
same
concerns
in
my
ward.
B
N
B
I
mean
just
looking
at
the
difference
between
CBD
G
loans
and
majorities,
at
least
the
families
that
I'm
aware
of
they're
seniors,
trying
to
take
care
of
life
safety
issues.
I
mean
I.
Think
if
you
listen
to
the
some
of
these
conversations,
we're
looking
for
homeowners
or
excuse
me.
Landlords
who
I
would
say
with
a
minimum
of
a
flat
who
provide
affordable
rents
by
your
criteria
would
be
able
to
I
mean
we
don't
need
to
do
it
now,
but
I
would
ask
mean
like
what
would
$5,000
do
to
one
of
her
properties.
N
O
What
do
you
think
and
then
you
reacted
to
the
program
and
we
took
bits
and
pieces
in
and
out
and
then
came
back
and
had
a
finished
product
that
you
adopted
and
and
then
we've
revisit
you
every
couple
years
and
say
what
do
you
think
and
then
you
tweak
as
the
time
goes
on,
so
we
could.
We
could
look
at
maybe
what's
in
the
differences
between
what
alone
could
get
you
and
what
a
grant
similar
to
the
facade
program
could
get
you
so.
A
O
We
can
return
or
we're
gonna,
come
back
in
a
few
weeks
to
talk
up
for
the
larger
council
discussion
about
affordable
housing.
We
could
we
could
give
you
an
update
of
some
of
what
we've
we've
come
together
with
at
that
point,
and
then
you
could
either
determine
to
come
back
to
this
committee
or
wait
till
the
next
quarterly
check-in
for
that,
because
you
guys
have
committed
to
meeting
quarterly
for
this
horrible
housing
work.
I.
Think.
B
N
It
is
in
the
neighborhood
of
the
cash
balance
about
700,
maybe
750
thousand
dollars,
keep
in
mind
that
$200,000
of
that
was
from
the
1571
maple
development.
That's
the
first
of
two
payments
and
there
was
a
resolution
with
that:
ordinance
that
allocated
that
for
purchase
of
units
in
the
downtown
districts
to
be
maintained
as
affordable
housing,
which
I
believe
we
might
want
to
reconsider
and
see.
If
we
want
to
return
that
with
unrestricted,
be
able
to
accomplish
some
of
the
other
goals
of
the
council.
So.
B
A
It's
very
unclear
direction
because
I
don't
think
we're
all.
We
have
all
had
time
to
think
this
through
right
now.
Well,
I
mean
the
concept.
Is
here's
here's
the
concept
that
we
definitely
want
to
do
affordable
rental,
rehab
outside
of
the
CDB
jumble
of
restrictions?
We
want
to
do
it
on
our
own
through
affordable
housing
money.
That's
what
we
want
to
do
so
staff
knows
that
and
so
we're
asking
staff
to
come
back
to
us.
A
How
can
we
do
this
without
all
these
restrictions
and
bureaucratic
forms-
and
you
know
districts
and
I-
mean
I,
don't
even
like
the
restriction
of
requiring
it
to
be
in
the
CDBG
affected
area,
because
we
already
have
programs
for
the
CDBG
how
about
city
wide?
If
there's,
if
there
there
are
really
dire
needs
outside
of
CDBG
target
areas,
there
are
needs
all
over
town.
So.
B
I
won't
speak
for
all
of
them
Simmons
because
she
can
do
that,
but
I'll
speak
forth
or
I
would
like
this
thought
to
go
to
staff
with
the
same
amount
of
thought
that
you
are
proposing
in
the
form
of
discussion.
So
that's
number
one:
okay,
it's
I'm!
Okay,
with
looking
at
CV
DG
areas
for
the
pilot
and
I
agree.
I
think
it
should
be
expanded,
citywide,
but
I'm.
Here's!
What
I
don't
want
to
do
is
I.
Don't
want
to
open
it
up
to
areas
of
town
that
are
not
renting,
not
providing
affordable
rents
to.
A
B
We
so
we
agree
to
that
and
just
if
there's
a
guideline
things
in
place
through
our
CV
DG
I
think
it
can
work
very
similar
to
that
without
them
having
to
reinvent
the
wheel.
But
you
know
what
the
nice
thing
is:
I
think
our
staff
gets
what
we're
saying
and
they're
smart
enough
and
talented
enough
to
figure
it
out.
So
let's
just
make
sure
that
they
understand
that
it's
it
has
the
same
priority
as
your
rental
program
and
I'm
good
with
it.
But.
A
Could
I
just
can
I
just
tell
you
one
thing:
the
one
thing
that
I'm
concerned
about
is
we
have
CDBG
rental
rehab
right
now,
there's
a
reason
why
so
many
people
aren't
applying
for
that
and
that's
what
I'm
concerned
about
that
they're
going
to
use
those
same
requirements
and
then
nobody
will
apply
for
this.
I
want
to
loosen
that
and
that's
that's
all
I'm
saying
to
you
Peter.
That's
all
I'm,
saying,
there's
a
reason.
B
A
D
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
not
limit
it
to
CDBG
only
because
or
mainly
because
we've
talked
about
expanding,
affordable
housing
beyond
targeted
areas
in
the
community
one
and
then
the
limitations
and
all
the
barriers
that
the
CDBG
funding
sometimes
puts
on.
You
might
not
allow
us
to
really
maximize
the
the
program,
but
I
would
like,
as
ottoman
Braithwaite
has
said,
to
get
some
next
steps
back
from
staff.
D
I
mean
it's
gonna,
be
a
process,
but
I
don't
want
to
not
refer
this
to
staff
and
then
will
be
another
three
months
waiting
to
continue
the
discussion.
So
if
we
can
start
with
having
something
written
down-
and
maybe
we
can
offer
some
feedback-
and
we
all
have
to
agree
on
it
anyway-
so
stalling
I
think
is
irresponsible
at
this
point,
based
on
the
urgent
needs
that
we
have
in
our
community
for
affordable
housing.
So.
O
All
of
the
items
that
are
discussed
tonight
at
this
committee
and
then
Planning
and
Development
will
be
included
in
the
update
that
we
have
on
the
29th
and
and
so
will
include
the
work
we've
done
between
now
and
then
and
then
plan
to
come
back
to
administration
and
Public
Works.
If
this
is
what
you'd
like
with
this
draft
program
and
takes,
take
some
attempts
out
taking
what
you've
been
telling
us
into
a
program
that
you
can
respond
to
mm-hmm.
G
D
I,
don't
think,
there's
anything
more
to
discuss.
Then
we
need
to
come
up
with
programming
to
improve
or
expand
homeownership
opportunities.
So
I
don't
understand
the
process.
Are
we
waiting
on
staff
to
present
something
to
us?
Do
we
need
to
write
up
the
plan?
What
do
we
need
to
do
to
have
a
plan
attach
it
to
a
resource,
get
a
family
in
a
house
that
they
own?
How.
B
B
A
N
Think
that,
again
with
home
ownership,
there
are
many
many
things
that
can
be
done,
but
we
have
to
develop,
who
we're
trying
to
help
and
in
what
ways
I
mean
down
payment
assistance
programs
it'd
be
broader,
larger
help
than
the
existing
ones,
the
both
Ida
and
the
ones
that
are
largely
funded
through
the
Federal
Home
Loan
Bank
are
usually
well.
Ida
goes
up
to
seven
hundred
seventy
five
hundred
dollars
in
down
payment
and
closing
cost
assistance.
N
I
think
that
part
of
the
issue
is
what
income
levels
do
we
want
to
target
with
this
one
of
the
problems
and
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
ceased
having
our
home
down
payment
assistance
program
which
actually
would
give
people
downpayment
grants
forgivable
loans
of
up
to
25,000
was
that
funding
is
restricted
to
households
with
incomes
at
or
below.
Eighty
percent
of
the
area
median
who
generally
weren't
qualifying
for
mortgages,
and
we
just
couldn't.
We
couldn't
make
the
program
work
so
this
would.
N
We
would
need
to
look
at
what
income
levels
might
be
feasible
and
what
types
of
help
would
be
needed
to
get
them
into
housing.
I
think
one
of
the
other
things
we
have
raised
some
ideas
on
how
to
look
at
developing
housing
that
may
be
more
affordable
than
some
of
the
housing.
That's
out
there
right
now,
we
proposed
looking
at
a
special
use
to
try
to
develop
housing
on
lots
using,
for
example,
the
NSP
purchased
lot
at
21
22
Darryl,
it's
a
double
lot.
N
We've
worked
with
a
developer
to
try
to
figure
out
how
they
could
get
more
units
that
could
be
ownership
and
and
frankly,
what
we
wound
up
with
was
townhomes.
We
already
have
townhomes
and
if
we're
trying
to
get
single-family
homes
that
feel
different,
perhaps
having
a
special
use
where
a
developer
could
come
and
say
hey.
This
is
my
plan
for
this
particular
parcel
and
it
would
be
reviewed
and
looked
at
individually.
It
could
maybe
be
small
lot
homes
or
you
know
there
are
other.
A
N
A
B
In
chime
in
when
you
need
to
so
Wally
I've,
just
called
you
into
this
conversation,
if
you
could
come
on
up
I,
think
we're
probably
about
30
minutes
over
our
time.
This
issue
of
affordable
housing
is
something
that
we
put
as
a
priority
as
a
council
going
into
2018,
and
here
we
are
the
first
meeting
and
just
based
on
the
spirit
of
the
conversation
I
think
it's
it's
safe
to
say
that
we're
gonna
focus
on
this,
and
so
the
three
things
that
I've
heard
tonight
they
were
actually
discussion.
B
Items
was
the
rental
assistance
program,
rental,
voucher
program.
Alden
students
brought
up
the
assistance
for
landlords
who
are
providing
affordable
housing,
and
then
we
have
the
pathway
to
homeownership
as
well,
and
so
my
what
I
would
share
with
my
cellphone
rainy
and
Alden
Simmons,
who
all
have
areas
in
our
Ward
that
provide
affordable
rents
to
residents
who
deserve
to
stay
in
town
through
over
the
next
month
we
meet
with
you,
you
know
every
other
week.
Some
of
us
I'm
sure
talk
to
you
on
a
more
frequent
basis.
B
B
We
have
three
I,
think
six
developments
that
are
coming
in
town
and
we're
all
getting
hammered
for
it,
each
and
every
one
of
us
and
at
the
tag
line
for
every
single
email
that
I
read
residents
are
asking
about
affordable
housing,
and
so
it's
clear
that
we
need
to
figure
this
out
quickly
and
now
that
it's
a
priority,
it's
the
beginning
of
the
year.
Are
you
ready
to
jump
in
now?
Yes,.
D
D
I
think
that
we've
identified
all
the
problems
that
we
have
and
with
our
wealth
gap
here
in
Evanston,
the
average
income
and
the
formulas
where
it's
you
know
a
percentage
of
the
median
income.
It
doesn't
work
based
on
the
average
house
price.
So
can
we
look
at
ways
to
buy
down
the
cost
of
the
house
or
definitely
take
next
steps
in
finding
more
affordable
development
options?
The
multiple
accessory
dwellings
or
I'm
just
concerned
that
we
continue
to
have
meetings
and
I.
D
You
know
I'm
new
here
so
I,
don't
know
exactly
the
process,
but
when
are
we
going
to
be
in
action?
When
are
we
gonna?
Have
new
policy
identified
funding,
clear
guidelines
and
getting
folks
to
the
housing
that
they
need?
Because
we
have
money?
That's
coming.
We
have
a
31.
That
was
two
point:
four
million.
We
have
all
these
other
developers
that
want
to
come
and
likely
are
going
to
want
to
pay
a
fee
in
lieu,
because
the
cost
of
instruction
construction
is
too
much
and
so
the
money's
coming.
D
E
Rainey
members
of
the
committee
I
think,
as
the
community
development
staff
has
said
tonight,
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
get
feedback
from
you
on
priorities.
There's
a
limited
amount
of
money.
I
mean
yes,
there's
money
coming
in,
but
we
would
not
want
to
recommend
to
you
programs
that
will
only
last
a
fixed
period
of
time.
We
want
to
try
to
do
things
that
are
sustainable
as
possible.
The
council
has
made
it
very
clear.
This
is
a
priority.
E
That's
why
we're
here
tonight
we'll
be
happy
chair,
rainy
to
come
back
in
two
weeks
and
have
an
additional
discussion.
I
think
the
idea
was
that
the
January
29th
meeting
was
a
was
an
opportunity
to
say:
okay,
where
are
we
at?
What
can
we
take
next
steps
on
so
I
would
think
actions
would
begin
on
January
29th
in
the
past.
Practice
of
this
council
is
to
have
a
good
debate
to
hell
it.
E
Let
council
members
contribute
that
members
of
the
public
contribute
and
I
think
that
the
council
has
to
decide
at
what
point
do
you
want
to
get
public
input
on
what
you're
proposing
so
we're
happy
chair
rainy
to
come
back
in
two
weeks
time
as
discussion
with
updates
on
the
discussions
this
evening
will
then
have
a
week
prior
then
to
the
29th
meeting,
and
you
can
direct
us
to
put
whatever
actions
on
for
the
29th
that
you
think
is
appropriate.
Thank.
A
You
city
manager,
one
thing
I
want
to
say
to
Alderman
Braithwaite
and
to
alderman.
Simmons
is
yes
the
the
word
that
you
hear
at
the
opening
is
always
we
want
affordable
housing,
but
the
next
thing
you
hear
is
no
to
every
development.
So
you
we
have.
We
have
a
dilemma.
We
have
a
dilemma,
so
you
can't
have
one
you
can't
have
the
first
without
the
other
so
hit
with
that.
Shall
we
adjourn?
Yes.