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A
A
Here:
council,
member
Burns,
okay,
council
member
nuzma,
here,
council
member
Harris
present
okay
great,
we
have
a
quorum,
we'll
start
with
approving
the
minutes.
B
A
Great
all
in
favor,
aye
aye
aye
minutes
are
approved.
We'll
now
move
to
public
comment.
Public
comment.
A
Okay,
we'll
begin
with
our
remote
public
comment
with
Mr
vasilko.
A
Here:
okay,
I'm
sorry,
Mr
visil,
who
is
here:
okay,.
C
So
a
couple
of
quick
things,
I
think
staff
needs
to
explain
why
on
item
A7,
the
IHC
construction
bid
was
even
accepted
in
the
first
place.
We
now
have
to
delete
it
and
then
a
word
to
Ballard.
C
Coming
on
the
heels
of
other
change,
orders
discussed
at
the
last
meeting
are
now
change:
orders
for
CDM
Smith
for
lead,
pipe
underground
work
and
for
Benchmark
for
a
large
diameter
sewer,
Rehabilitation
48
000
for
one
thirty
thousand
for
another.
Maybe
staff
could
briefly
explain
that
foreign.
C
Concerned
or
annoyed
I
guess
about
why
on
a13,
the
emergency
replacement
of
two
boilers
at
noise?
Why
no
other
alternative
to
fossil
fuel
gas
boilers
was
investigated
number
one
and
number
two
why
no
local
contractors
were
invited
to
bid
that
project
just
out
of
out
of
City,
mostly
Chicago
based
contractors
and
like
a
boomerang?
Why
is
A14
coming
back
again?
This
is
the
the
private
sewer
repair
line,
cost
in
excess
of
fifteen
thousand
dollars
for
repair
residential
property.
It
seemed
like
this
has
been
discussed
time
and
time
again.
C
This
is
like
a
no-brainer.
This
should
be
approved.
It
should
have
been
approved
before
you
know.
We
seem
to
have
no
problem,
awarding
55
million
dollar
projects
and
millions
of
dollars
of
change
orders.
But
when
we're
talking
about
a
fifteen
thousand
dollar,
you
know
City
payment
on
behalf
of
a
city
resident
who
pays
exorbitant
taxes
why
this
is
being
debated
to
the
nth
degree.
It
should
just
be
approved.
C
C
Much
time
I
have
left,
but
I'd
also
like
to
note
that
last
time
we
at
the
city,
council
and
I
think
at
APW.
There
was
a
discussion
about
the
animal
shelter.
E
F
I
would
like
to
object
to
A6
about
the
142
new
trees
and
D1
wants
to
come
on
your
property,
the
city
and
decide
about
whether
we
should
cut
down
trees
or
not.
The
City
of
Evanston
does
not
take
care
of
their
own
trees.
They
should
not
be
granted
money
every
year
to
plant
new
trees.
When
this,
the
city
has
failed
to
do
their
own
job.
F
That
they're,
accusing
us
of
not
doing
in
D1
in
the
1900
block
of
Dewey
I,
believe
it
was
in
August
a
Citizens
two
of
her
Vehicles
were
totaled
by
a
Parkway
tree,
which
was
the
city
of
evanston's
responsibility.
She
had
complained
about
it
several
times
and
the
city
didn't
do
anything
until
it
destroyed
her
Vehicles.
So
I,
don't
think
you
should
be
talking
about
coming
on
the
property
on
our
property
to
decide
about
our
trees
when
the
city
is
not
doing
their
job
here
on
East,
River,
Road
and
University
along
the
tracks.
F
You
have
planted
those
bushes
many
many
years
ago
and
there's
garbage
and
no
maintenance
of
that.
Also,
the
lady
at
Emerson
and
Jackson
are
cut
down
a
40
or
50
trees,
knees
and
no,
no
one
said
anything
about
that.
So
why
are
you
planting
more
trees
and
you
allowed
her
to
cut
down
the
trees
and,
and
she
did
notify
the
neighbors
and
I'm
assuming
the
city
would
know
if
she's
cutting
down
40
or
50
trees?
And
if
you
don't,
you
should
have
found
out
about
that.
Instead
of
coming
on
our
property.
F
Also,
you
could
put
that
money
towards
the
landlord
fund,
which
somehow
I'm
seen
to
be
cut
out
of
I
would
like
to
say
that
this
D2
should
be
put
in
the
planning
and
development
housing
subcommittee,
because
this
is
a
conversation
about
inspection
that
should
be
talked
about
in
the
subcommittee
it
body
cam
is
not
feasible.
It's
very
expensive
and
unnecessary.
I
have
promoted
mcwright
and
Associates
for
many
years
and
there's
very
simple
things
that
you
can
do
to
make
sure
that
an
inspection
goes
properly.
F
I
just
had
an
inspection
last
week
and
I
had
no
documentation
to
say
that
I
passed
and
everything
was
okay
and
the
city
will
be
able
to
right
up
violations
that
were
not
found.
Thank
you.
Thank.
G
I,
thank
you
very
much
for
letting
me
speak
here.
I
want
to
address
A14
and
also
just
a
miscellaneous
thing.
A14
is
really
important.
I
agree
with
everything
Mike
the
sickle
said
on
all
his
issues.
He
really
looks
at
this
stuff,
but
the
A14
I,
just
I'm
a
realtor
and
I
just
had
a
client
who
had
a
small
house.
She
was
elderly
and
her
sewer
broke
and
it
was
in
the
street
there
and
she
had
to
pay
somewhere
between
20
and
30
000.
G
She
had
to
take
out
a
loan
at
her
house
and
had
their
proceeds
from
the
sale
of
her
house.
Her
whole
retirement
fund
was
in
that
house
and
she
had
to
give
whoever
she
had
to
give
it
to
like
20
or
30
000,
and
it's
not
like
she
was
a
wealthy
woman.
So
I
actually
think
that
15
000
should
be
brought
down
to
ten
thousand
or
less
depending
on
on
the
amount
our
cities
are.
G
All
of
our
sewers
are
so
much
older
and
we
have
so
much
construction
going
on
in
certain
areas
and
that
onslaught
of
heavy
trucks
and
hack
jammering
jackhammering
rather
does
damage
underneath
the
ground.
On
some
of
these
things,
so
I
think
we
need
to
help
our
all
of
our
residents
be
able
to
stay
in
our
homes
and
have
sewers
done.
We
should
be
there's
a
lot
we
could
do,
but
I
just
want
to
really
get
you
to
think
about
that.
This
is
an.
It
is
an
equity
issue
too,
for
people
who
paid
the
high
taxes.
G
G
The
second
thing,
the
animal
shelter
I-
think
we've
got
to
go
back
and
look
at
this
there's
two
million
dollars
in
contingencies:
I'm
quoted
6.3
million
or
7.2
million
and
I
just
see
change,
orders
and
change,
orders
and
change
orders
on
so
many
projects
that
are
coming
through
Evanston
and
I'm
thinking,
either
a
we're
accepting
people
who
don't
know
how
to
bid
their
projects
properly
or
B.
They
know
they
can
come
to
Evanston
big
low.
G
Knowing
that
they're
going
to
have
to
change
their
project
I,
don't
know
what
it
is,
but
it's
not
fair
to
the
residents.
So
please
send
that
animal
shelter
back
to
the
beginning,
I,
don't
know,
I
think
we
can
build
a
really
nice
shelter
for
far
less
than
what
they're
bringing
their
numbers
yet.
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
time
and
have
a
good.
A
H
A
H
Thank
you
for
the
time
that
you're
giving
me
I'm
here
to
to
Advocate
on
behalf
of
my
employer,
I'm
Ronald
O'neal
I,
Am,
The
General
Counsel
for
IHC
construction
companies,
I'm
here
to
speak
to
the
the
committee
regarding
the
decision
that
it's
before
it
regard
about
moving
forward
with
taking
the
award
for
the
1909
raw
water
intake
replacement
project
away
from
IHC.
H
H
Ihc
was
under
the
impression
that
meeting
MBE
and
wbe
numbers
was
important
to
the
City
of
Evanston.
We've
always
been
on
that
impression.
You
have
these
standards
in
a
lot
of
your
projects.
Iepa
set
a
standard
of
17
12
for
MBE
and
5
for
wbe
IHC
in
in
submitting
our
bid
did
a
lot
of
work
to
meet
those
numbers,
and
we
did
them
significantly
in
terms
of
the
MBE
and
I'm
sorry
I
had
it
backwards.
It's
NBA
five
percent
wbe
12
percent.
H
We
will
be
providing
as
part
of
our
contract,
2.236
million
dollars
to
MB
contractors
and
in
terms
of
wbe,
we'll
be
providing
5.38
million
dollars.
Ballard,
on
the
other
hand,
has
not
met
those
numbers.
We
met
the
17
percent
that
we
were
required
for
dbe
and
they
have
not.
H
H
Those
contractors
don't
fall
out
of
Sky.
We
did
real
work
because
we
we're
committed
to
that
portion
of
our
business
with
the
city.
So
that's
one
thing
that
I
want
to
point
out
that
you're
thinking
about
giving
a
contract
to
a
a
contractor,
general
contractor
who
hasn't
done
the
work
to
provide
those
numbers
as
this
as
this
city
requires
and
as
IEP
a
requires.
H
H
I
Good
evening-
and
thank
you
for
your
time-
my
name
is
Russell
again
I'm
a
vice
president
with
IHC
Construction
I
just
want
to
touch
base
on
a
couple
facts
here
concerning
the
bid.
I
was
in
charge
of
our
company
putting
the
proposal
together
for
the
raw
water
intake
structure.
I
So
we
were,
we
spent
nearly
two
two
and
a
half
months
on
the
project,
with
a
staff
of
four
or
five
people
to
put
this
bid
together
for
you,
so
we
take
a
very
much
to
heart
that
that
we're
being
considered
to
be
dropped
from
the
consideration.
I
Basically,
what's
what
it's
coming
down
to
is
the
fact
that
the
there
was
a
statement
in
the
qualifications
for
bidders.
It
states
that
the
contractor
shall
be
able
to
demonstrate
at
least
10
years
of
experience,
performing
Marine
Works
projects
on
the
Great
Lakes.
This
was
put
together
by
staff
at
at
Evanston.
We
questioned
that
prior
to
the
bid,
there
wasn't
a
denim
put
out
that
said
that
we
could
meet
that
qualification
through
our
subcontractors.
I
So,
therefore,
in
our
interpretation
of
the
specifications,
the
contractor
or
their
Marine
work,
subcontractors
would
be
able
to
meet
those
qualifications.
We
submitted
those
qualifications
post
bid
at
the
request
of
Evanston
and
have
never
really
has
Ron
had
talked
about.
We
never
really
got
questioned
about.
Can
we
meet
it
or
not?
We
were
taken
to
court
by
the
second
place
bidder,
along
with
the
City
of
Evanston
and,
like
I,
said
that
injunction
was
the
outcome
of
that.
We
all
know
about
that,
but
so
I
guess.
I
The
point
that
we're
looking
at
is
the
fact
that
the
the
qualifications
that
were
required
for
this
contract
were
never
fully
defined
as
what
constitutes
a
marine
work
subcontractor.
It
was
never
even
discussed
in
the
court
case.
I
We
felt
that
you
know
our
our
folks
met
that
and
we
were
never
questioned
about
any
individual
in
that
going
back
to
the
award
basis
and
in
the
original
specs
you
go
to
the
four
things
that
were
qualified
the
adherence
to
the
conditions
and
requirements
of
the
bit
specs
price,
which
we
were
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
lower
than
the
second
place
bidder.
I
Qualifications
of
the
better
and
the
maintenance
costs
and
warranty
processes,
so
those
are
the
the
things
that
we
looked
at
price
was
to
be
considered
ahead
of
the
qualifications
and
specifications
and
we're
not
sure
that
that's
happened
yet.
So
we're
just
asking
that
you
reconsider
that
and
if
worst
case
scenario,
that
we
get
another
opportunity
to
bid
the
project.
So
thank.
J
Good
evening,
I
probably
don't
need
this
I'm
Dave
Rock
I'm,
the
president
CEO
of
IDC
and
I'm
here
tonight,
to
try
and
help
you
people
out
we're
a
little
bitter
on
your
Public
Works
project.
We
do
a
lot
of
Public
Works.
Your
staff
checked
us
out
recommended
us
for
an
award.
You
awarded
us
the
job
and
what
I
could
only
describe
is
a
truly
unique
set
of
circumstances.
J
Your
disgruntled
second
place
bitter
took
you
and
us
to
court
and
created
basically
a
doubt
with
a
circuit
court
judge
in
terms
of
some
terminology
that
was
utilized,
you
have
the
right
and
the
ability
to
Ward
us
this
job.
We
will
Remedy
Our
bid
now
with
the
new
ruling
that
we
got
from
the
judge,
which
is
new
information
that
we
have
not
been
given
a
chance
to
remedy.
We
were
in
discussion
with
your
staff
and
and
answered
questions
for
them.
They
told
you
to
award
us
the
job
which
you
did.
J
That's
the
right
thing
to
do
in
public
procurement,
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
is
two
and
a
half
million
dollars.
I
could
stand
up
here
for
a
long
time
and
talk
about
people
that
believe
in
affirmative
action
and
people
that
give
it
lip
service.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
we
believe
Evanston
is
serious
about
it.
We
met
it
to
award
a
jab
where
the
low
bidder
us
meets
the
criteria
that
you
laid
out
and
the
second
place
bidder
says
we
tried.
J
I
got
to
be
honest
with
you.
I
do
a
lot
of
this
I've
seen
a
lot
of
this
I've.
Never
seen
that
happen,
so
I
think
it'll
make
a
statement
about
who
Evanston
is
and
and
and
the
the
bid
document
that
you
put
together
and
if
there
are
some
things
in
there
that
you
want
to
correct
I,
don't
really
want
you
to
rebid
the
job.
J
J
We
believe
we
should
get
the
job
and
it
in
the
worst
case
scenario,
you
should
re-bet
it
again
if,
if
in
your
procurement
policies,
you
know,
if
there's
some
things
that
you'd
like
to
take
a
second
look
at
so
be
it
but
I
I
would
fully
support
your
idea
to
sit
here
and
say
there
are
some
de
minimis
things
in
here
and
and
they're
a
little
bitter,
I,
you've
heard
it
tonight
in
terms
of
citizens
that
are
watching
this.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank
you.
A
Attorney
price
is
here,
would
you
could
you
comment
on
this
situation?
Thank
you.
A
E
I
said,
if
there's
nothing
else,
that
anyone
wants
to
pull
from
the
consent
agenda,
I
will
move
the
consent
agenda,
minus
items,
A3,
A7
and
a13,
and.
E
I'll
move
item:
A3
approval
of
customer
relationship
management
software
with
Q
send
Technologies
Incorporated.
L
A
Okay,
the
item
A3
has
been
moved
and
seconded.
Are
there
any?
Is
there
any
discussion,
councilmember
newsman.
B
Thank
you,
Madam,
chair,
I'm,
not
sure
who
here
is
Miss
pontrelli
prepared
to
speak
on
this,
but
I
so
I
have
some
questions
about
this
contract
and
the
3-1-1
app.
B
If
you
could
just
tell
tell
us,
what's
included,
what's
not
included
what,
if
anything,
we
might
have
to
pay
extra
for
at
a
later
date,
good.
M
Evening
committee,
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
Deputy
city
manager,
stonebeck
and
city
managers,
so
my
name
is
Sue
panarelli.
For
those
that
don't
mean
know
me,
I'm
the
311
and
police
service
desk
manager,
and
yes,
what's
I.
The
app
from
the
previous
was
is
a
little
bumpy.
M
The
this
particular
vendor
offers
us
two
apps
one
will
be
a
brand
new
mobile
app
that
works
directly
with
the
system
with
for
both
for
Android
and
for
iPhone,
so
we
should
and
will
be
branded
with
our
311
and
City
logos,
of
course,
and
the
second
app
is
for
internal
customers,
so
for
like
Public
Works
agency,
that
is
maybe
doing
Special
pickups
and
they
have
to
they
take
a
photo
of
the
special
pickup
and
they
bill
it.
M
Everything
that
is
a
separate
app
just
for
them
so
that
they
don't
have
to
push
and
pull,
and
so
it's
it's
a
very
both
of
those
are
nice
features.
Well,
we
did
test
both
of
them.
We
had
external
customers
test
the
mobile
app
and
they
found
it
very
easy
to
use
and
it
can
be
done
anonymously
as
well
and.
B
M
E
Yes,
hi
Sue,
so
I'm
excited
that
we're
looking
at
this
new
technology.
I
just
want
to
understand.
Can
you
talk
a
bit
about
the
user
side
of
this
I?
Wonder
you
know:
does
this
allow
for
an
open,
301
portal?
Can
folks
go
in
and
see
all
of
the
requests
that
have
been
made
and
where
it
is
in
the
process?
Do
you
know
if
this
software
allows
for.
M
That
sure
the
the
external
customer
for
can
use
the
mobile
app
or
can
use
the
web
or,
of
course,
can
call
us,
but
we're
talking
about
the
CRM,
and
they
can
take
a
photo
GPS.
It
will
pick
up
right
where
someone's
at
it
will
integrate
with
our
open
data
that
we
use.
Now
we
do
have
we
do
limit
a
few
things.
We
don't
want
public,
maybe
and
I
always
use
the
example
of
someone
sometimes
puts
like
a
drug
tip
into
the
311
system,
something
where
we
wouldn't
want
out.
M
But,
yes,
it
will
integrate
for
open
data.
So
if
customers
can
look,
they
also
will
be
able
to
pull
a
heat
map
and
look
at
things
in
the
particular
area.
Also,
we
have
where
the
overlay
of
the
wards
or
by
ZIP
code
as
far
as
the
end
users,
so
it
should
be
it's
fairly,
it's
very
easy
to
use
and
it
was
really
important,
as
I
mentioned,
to
be
able
to
do
it
anonymously
and
the
other
part
just
was
really
important.
Is
that
someone
can
respond.
A
customer
can
respond
without
logging
in
directly
to
the
email.
E
I'm
excited
to
see
this
as
it
rolls
out,
I
think
you
know
and
I
hope
we
can
have
a
close
relationship
with
this
company.
I
know
that,
from
the
perspective
of
the
clerk's
office,
where
I
used
to
be
next
request,
the
city
had
a
pretty
good
relationship
with
them
were
able
to
in
fact
get
some
essentially
custom
software.
E
E
You
know,
301,
is
an
extremely
important
part
of
our
City's
operations
and
I
think
we
can
do,
and
it's
and
I
don't
think
it's
on.
You
know
the
staff,
but
I
think
we
can
do
a
a
better
job
and
I
think
part
of
that
is
acquiring
both
new
software.
E
That
can
help
keep
up
with
the
latest
trends
in
in
in
in
the
three-in-one
world,
as
well
as
making
sure
we're
Staffing
this
office,
but
I
I'm
just
really
interested
to
see
a
sampling
of
this
new
software
and
in
a
particularly
interested
in
an
open
portal.
For
this,
that
would
allow
residents
a
better
insight
into
what's
going
on
with
three
on
one.
M
Thank
you,
I
say
very
exciting
and
cool
alert
has
been
extremely
responsive
on
the
questions
we've
had.
They
have
open
apis
on
any
of
our
Integrations
that
we
need.
That
was
a
big
part
of
of
what
was
part
of
what
we
looked
for
in
the
RFP
and
the
RFQ,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
systems
talk
to
each
other
and
they
just
seem
to
be
like
we're
Evanston.
What's
next,
you
know.
So
it
was
it's
an
exciting
company,
an
exciting
time
with
them,
so
I
I,
agree.
L
M
B
B
B
A
K
This
is
a
45
million
dollar
or
more
project,
and
nothing
about
it
is
simple.
It
was
two
and
a
half
years
in
the
making.
K
K
So
in
this
case,
they
went
out
to
bid
one
of
the
things
that
staff
was
wanted
to
make
sure
they
got
were
contractors
who
were
qualified
to
work
in
deep
water,
and
so
they
had
a
requirement
that
required
experience
on
the
Great
Lakes,
which
staff
said
or
or
better
10
years.
Great
lakes
or
better
staff
read
that
as
bigger
bodies
of
water
than
the
Great
Lakes
would
suffice.
That
was
ihc's
partner
in
This.
K
Global
has
experience
on
the
Seas
and
oceans
of
the
world,
but
not
specifically
on
the
Great
Lakes
Ballard,
which
has
worked
on
the
Great
Lakes
challenged
on
that
basis,
that
that
was
a
non-waveable
defect.
Enihc's
Team,
Evanston,
For,
Better
or
Worse
is
famous
in
the
construction
law
industry
for
a
case
from
2002
called
Keith
Shea
versus
Evanston,
in
which
the
courts
ruled
that,
if
you
say
this
is
your
process,
you
have
to
follow
your
process,
and
that
is
a
fair
bidding
process
and
you
can't
deviate
from
it.
K
So,
in
the
keep
Shake
case,
it
was,
if
you
require
15
letters
of
authority
concerning
dbe
and
the
person
submits
14,
despite
the
fact
that
they
could
have
submitted
twice
15
30.
That
was
the
evidence.
It
didn't
matter.
The
the
Illinois
Supreme
Court
announced
a
new
rule,
which
was
there
are
due
process
rights
at
stake
for
everybody,
and
so
Evanston
wasn't
allowed
to
give
it
to
the
low
bidder
in
cave
Shea
because
of
one
missing
letter.
That
was
just
inadvertently
not
there,
but
that
set
the
bar
the
standard.
K
So
in
this
case
recognizing
the
complexity
of
this
case,
staff
gave
itself
Elbow
Room
it
put
in
there.
We
know
that
this
is
a
complex
project
and
we
are
going
to
have
to
work
with
bidders
after
the
bids
are
opened,
and
we
may
need
to
ask
for
information
at
any
time
and
when
we
do,
nobody
can
complain
because
you're
all
on
alert
that
this
is
going
to
be
the
process,
and
that
is
what
Evanston
did
when
it
opened
the
bids
for
this
project.
None
of
the
three
bidders
gave
a
perfect
bid.
K
All
of
them
had
deficiencies,
IHC
included
among
ihc's
deficiencies
were
the
fact
that
Global
hadn't
put
in
anything
indicating
that
either
the
superintendent
manager
had
the
experience
or
the
global
head
experience
on
the
Great
Lakes
specifically,
and
that
became
the
challenge.
Ballard
in
the
number
two
spot
also
had
deficiencies,
one
of
which,
as
was
mentioned
today,
they
didn't
return
a
particular
agreement.
K
We
focused
on
the
lowest,
putative
bitter
ihcs
team,
and
we
made
the
reached
out
to
IHC
after
the
biz
are
open
and
asked
them
to
supplement
their
information
about
the
experience
of
global
and
Global
reach
down
and
got
information
from
some
of
its
subcontractors
and
put
together
a
package
of
information
which
the
city
accepted
and
moved
forward
to
a
word.
The
bid
stantec
our
engineer
on
this
found
that
ihc's
team
was
qualified
to
do
it.
Ballard
suits,
saying
no,
you
said
great
lakes
and
Great
Lakes
means
Great
Lakes.
K
K
K
K
We
didn't
you
hear
Ro
for
anything
in
Illinois.
That
was
a
preliminary
injunction
because
that
was
after
a
two-day
hearing
we
presented
evidence.
They
presented
evidence
that
was
a
two-day
hearing,
so
it
was
a
preliminary
injunction
tros
are
you
know
we
we
agreed
not
to
move
forward
with
IHC
until
we
had
the
hearing.
K
So
what
to
do
then
again?
The
issue
for
staff,
primarily
as
a
concern,
is
the
timing
requirements
of
the
IEP
administrative
regulations
and
the
timing.
Challenges
of
keeping
the
loan
in
place.
Iep's
administrative
regulations
say:
if
you
go
out
to
bid
there
is
a
45-day
minimum
waiting
period
for
people
to
develop
a
market
for
dbe
issues.
K
Only
then
can
you
God
forbid.
Then
you
get
the
bids
back,
you
open
them
and,
as
we've
done
now
twice
you
have
to
evaluate
the
bidders
you
take,
the
lowest,
putative
bidder,
evaluate
them
for
responsiveness
and
responsibility.
Then
you
come
here,
get
what
we're
getting
tonight,
a
notice
of
intent
to
award,
not
an
award
itself.
We
can't
do
that.
Yet
we
have
to
do
this.
Preliminary
prerequisite
step
a
notice
of
intent
to
award,
but
we're
going
to
award
to
these
guys.
We
did
this
with
IHC.
K
You
said
you
passed
a
notice
of
intent
to
a
word
IHC.
We
take
that
bundle
it
up
with
our
investigation
and
our
reports
and
comments
and
we
send
it
to
EPA
an
IPA
then
says:
either
we
bless
it
or
we
don't
and
if
they
bless
it,
they
send
it
back
with
a
loan
agreement
and
that's
how
far
we
got
with
IHC.
K
We
got
it
back
with
a
loan
agreement
that
expired,
September
26th,
and
so
we
moved
quickly
on
the
preliminary
injunction
hearings
to
try
and
get
a
determination
that
we
could
move
forward
with
IHC
and
IHC
to
their
credit,
held
their
bid
longer
than
the
bid
documents
did
as
part
of
this
whole
process.
But
when
Meyerson
said
no,
you
can't
award
it
to
them.
September
26th
came
and
went
iepa,
sent
its
correspondence.
K
That
said,
well,
we're
rescinding
that
iepa
loan
agreement
you're
welcome
to
send
us
the
next
lowest
bidder
through
the
bids
process
and
it's
all
and
that's
an
acronym
down
there,
and
so
our
that
staff
focused
on
a
couple
of
things,
taking
the
best
shot
at
trying
to
save
the
funding
and
not
worry
about
a
bypass
state.
If
you
don't
use
the
loan
money
iepa
commits
by
a
certain
date,
they
move
on
to
other
people,
there's
a
line
for
this
stuff
and
we
don't
want
to
lose
the
line.
K
So
it
was
a
close
call
between
trying
to
rebidden
by
the
skin,
of
our
teeth,
Maybe
get
within
the
the
window
for
that
or,
as
iepa
suggested.
Looking
to
the
second
low
bidder,
which
was
Ballard,
who
had
defects
as
we
know,
but
again,
judge
meyerson's
opinion
was
their
defects.
She
actually
said
this.
In
her
opinion,
balor's
defects
were
different
than
ihcs.
Ballards
can
be
fixed,
so
there
is
some
issue
about
whether
a
particular
form
needed
to
be
returned
or
not,
and
they
said
yes,
we
can
do
that.
K
Ballard
checked
a
box,
for
example,
on
one
of
their
forms
as
a
clerical
error.
That
said
they
were,
they
couldn't
swear.
They
weren't
debarred
from
bidding.
We
raised
all
of
these
issues
in
trying
to
defend
the
IHC
bid,
saying
what
do
you
want
us
to
do?
Judge
we
can't
give
it
to
Ballard
anyway,
and
we've
got
this
process
that
allows
us
to
work
with
them
and
we
read
Great
Lakes
10
years
as
a
minimum,
not
not
the
precise
requirement
and
again
she
said:
nope
ballards
are
different
than
ihcs.
Iscs
cannot
be
cured.
K
This
is
where
we
are
we're
rescinding
your
prior
formal
action
up
to
a
word
to
the
notice
of
intent
to
award
to
IHC,
because
the
court
has
enjoined
us
from
proceeding
any
further
with
IHC
and
going
to
the
second
bidder,
the
lower
the
next
putative
low
bidder,
which
is
Ballard
and
again,
even
though
Ballard's
original
bid
at
the
day
of
opening
was
deficient.
They
have
cured
all
of
those
they
have
submitted
all
of
the
forms
and
all
the
information
they
needed
to
do.
K
Michael's
in
third
place
that
bitter
they've
not
shown
up
for
anything
they're
out
of
the
picture.
So
this
is
where
we're
at
the
con.
The
the
issues
have
not
concluded
in
the
litigation
IHC
has
initiated
proceedings
to
in
join
us
for
moving
forward
with
Ballard
for
the
same
sort
of
fair
bidding
process.
Claims
that's
going
to
make
its
way
through.
K
That
is
somewhat
okay
by
me
and
staff,
because
whatever,
however,
that
falls
out,
however,
that
articulates
itself
out
in
the
court
proceedings,
it
gives
us
a
story
to
tell
to
iepa
about
don't
bypass
us.
We're
stuck
in
this
hugely
complicated
project.
Probably
the
most
complicated
project
iepa
has
and
we're
trying
to
find
our
way
through
with
people
who
we
think
can
do
the
job.
Ihc's
reputation
is
Sterling,
but
ISC
is
only
doing
20
of
this
project.
They
have
to
go,
get
a
contractor
to
help
them
work
in
the
lake.
K
Ihc
has
not
worked
in
the
lake
and
that's
fine.
We
agree
that
that
would
be
an
appropriate
response,
but
whoever
was
working
in
the
lake
needed
to
have
this
deep
water
experience
which
the
judge
is
holding
us
to
on
Great
Lakes.
K
So
what
we're
asking
for
tonight
are
the
prerequisite
steps
we're
not
even
back
to
where
we
were
with
IHC
when
the
injunctive,
really
you
know
in
the
the
preliminary
injunction
proceedings
started.
We
want
to
get
back
at
least
that
far,
because
if
you
pass
this
tonight,
we
bundle
this
up
and
send
this
to
iepa.
K
Staff
talked
them
into
a
very
short
review
last
time,
so
that
we
could
try
and
not
lose
a
construction
season
and
that's
to
staff's
credit.
But
there's
no
guarantee
we'll
do
that
again,
especially
since,
to
be
frank,
it's
a
political,
it's
a
election
year
and
a
lot
of
money
was
in
capital
projects
that
went
out
the
door
and
in
two
weeks
things
it's
not
an
election
year
anymore.
K
So
in
an
overworked
State
staff,
we
don't
know
that
we
can
talk
them
into
as
quick
a
turnaround,
but
we're
hoping
because
we
don't
want
to
risk
whatever
the
understandings
are
about
the
bypass
date.
We
have
conflicting
information
that
the
bypass
date
is
January,
1
or
March
1.,
and
if
we
have
to
rebid,
if
the
proceedings
work
out
that
way
and
we'll
petition
the
iepa
to
say
Yeah
March
1,
please,
and
so
we
can
probably
squeeze
it
in
depending,
but
this
is
our
best
shot
at
saving
the
City
of
Evanston
taxpayers.
K
Money
that
we
know
is
there
and
committed
by
both
the
Federal
Loan
and
the
iepa
loan,
with
a
bid
number
we're
aware
of
it
doesn't
open
up
a
new
spreadsheet
in
a
terrible
construction
Market
where
prices
were
Rising.
So
that's
why
we're
here
as
staff
recommending
this
is
how
we
move
forward
at
least
take
these
prerequisite
steps
and
then
we'll
see
what
happens
with
the
rest
of
it,
because
it's
going
to
take
some
time
to
go
down
to
EPA
before
it
comes
back
and
before
we
could
move
forward
with
Ballard
anyway.
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
all
right,
councilmember,
so.
B
Thank
you
attorney
price,
so
the
money
you're
suggesting
that
we'll
save
by
taking
this
action
tonight
is
not
the
several
million
dollar
difference
between
the
low
bidder
and
the
second
lowest
bidder.
B
B
Going
to
a
month
or
two
or
three,
yes,
so
is
your
recommendation
that
we
take
this
action
tonight?
Yes,
but
if
I'm
understanding
you
correctly,
this
won't
be
the
final
consideration
of
this
issue
at
by
staff
or
the
city
council.
K
D
K
If
there
aren't
any
challenges
or
if
it
somehow
works
out
depending
on
what
the
judges
say,
I
mean
Frankly
Speaking.
We
argued
for
the
wiggle
room
and
never
expected
her
to
say,
I,
see
your
wiggle
room,
but
I'm
not
going
to
allow
IHC
to
cure.
That
was
not
the
intender
okay!
Well,
now
that
we're
there
and
Ballard
can
yeah.
This
is
how
we
got
here.
B
E
So
you
know
we
had
the
very
impassioned
delivery
from
the
IHC
folks.
So
if
this
Council
really
was
persuaded
by
by
that
our
own
sorry,
our
only
option
would
be
to
rebid
in
order
for
IHC
to
become
a
qualified
candidate.
Is
that
correct,
yeah.
E
Yeah,
but
there
is
no
option
through
the
current
process.
The
the
judge
from
your
interpretation
has
ruled
that
we
cannot
allow
them
to
remedy
their
current
bid.
K
Until
she
is
reversed,
that
is
true,
okay!
Well,
it's!
She
would
allow
them
to
remedy
their
their
bid
based
on
what
they
submitted.
That
and
the
supplemental
information
you
know,
I,
don't
know
that
her
her
point
was
that
this
team
global
did
not
have
that
that
from
which
the
pricing
was
based,
isn't
going
to
be
able
to
get
10
years
experience
overnight.
So
it's
not
like
submitting
a
form
yeah.
E
E
I
think
your
your
suggestion
is
convincing.
E
So
I
I
support
moving
forward
with
A7,
as
proposed.
A
Great
no
I'm,
sorry,
okay,
so
I'd
like
to
call
the
question.
E
N
K
We
agreed
early
on
in
the
process
that
that
IHC
could
satisfy
the
process
through
their
Marine
subcontractor.
That
was
what
we
said,
but
when
it
came
to
it
City
of
Evanston
said,
and
that
was
Global,
but
the
City
of
Evanston
said
initially
with
staff.
We'll
also
look
one
level
down:
subcontractors
are
subcontractors,
we
don't
care
how
many
levels
down
Beyond
Global
to
some
other
people
that
they
put
together
as
a
team
that
had
worked
and
brought
barges
and
done
other
things
on
the
Great
Lakes.
But
the
judge
found
that
that
wasn't
sufficient.
K
D
K
N
K
They
well,
but
they
haven't
presented
us
with
that
option
or
opportunity.
I
mean
we.
We
have
their
bid
with
global
that
the
judge
hasn't
joined
us
from
moving
forward
with
if
they
wanted
to
reconsider
and
brought
in
a
new
team
that
said,
here's
their
10
years
we've
cured,
they
could
do
that,
but
they
haven't.
They
haven't
done
that
that.
E
Of
information,
that's
right,
just
as
I
think
a
clarifying
point
from
my
understanding
that
that
kind
of
modification
would
be
substantive.
It
would
be,
you
know
one.
It
would
likely
change
the
price
quite
a
bit.
Bringing
on
this
new
contract
am
I,
am
I
wrong
about
this
or
well.
K
I
would
say
that
they
wouldn't,
if
it
changed
the
price
they
wouldn't,
they
wouldn't
be
in
the
low,
putative
bitter
position
so
and
I.
Don't
know
what
the
judge
would
think
about.
That
I
mean
she's,
given
us
the
wiggle
room
and
the
opportunity
to
cure
things,
all
right,
well,
they're,
swapping
out
a
partner
and
bringing
in
a
new
one.
You
know
if
it
saved
us
two
and
a
half
million,
and
we
can
do
it
by
the
timelines
I.
K
K
N
K
Oh
inflation
rate
is
eight
percent,
so,
and
shortages
of
things
have
I
have
not
resolved
themselves,
and
so,
if
the
rest
of
the
Public
Works
Market
is
any
indication,
prices
aren't
going
down.
Maybe
we'll
get
lucky
and
people
will
sharpen
their
pencils
and
find
a
new
way
to
do
this.
But
our
anticipation,
based
on
four
months
elapsing
between
the
one
in
Wisconsin
and
the
one
here
going
up,
14
million
dollars-
is
that
we're
using
that
as
the
basis
to
say
we
are
concerned.
E
If
there's
the
possibility
that
we
can
save
2
million
2.5
million
dollars,
why
would
we
not
attempt
to
save
it,
and
if
there
is,
you
know,
given
the
exchange
that
just
took
place,
I
think
I'd
be
willing
to
see
if
the
judges
one
if
the
IHC
is
able
to
come
in
with
the
same
or
very
similar
bid,
and
you
know,
save
us
two
million
dollars
and
have
the
expertise
and
if
the
judge
is
willing
to
accept
that-
and
you
know
we
just
if
we
were
to
hold
off
on
this
for
a
few
weeks.
E
K
I,
don't
recommend
delaying
tonight's
action
because
again
it
just
goes
to
EPA
and
whether
to
sign
the
loan
agreement.
That'll
come
back
right
and
the
IHC
has
looked
to
enjoin
that
from
happening
and
the
courts
will
weigh
in
in
that
time
where
it
goes
down
to
iepa
and
comes
back
that
doesn't
turn
around
in
24
hours
or
48
hours.
K
K
That's
depends
on
what
IHC
does
right
now.
All
they've
asked
us
to
do
is
stop
not
a
word
to
Ballard.
We
haven't
seen
a
proposal
where
they've
got
somebody
who
they
care,
whether
attempting
to
cure
the
Great
Lakes
experience
issue
or
nor
have
they
appealed.
So
if
they
appeal
and
re
and
the
Appellate
Court
reads
it
the
way
we
defended
it
well,
then
we
win
and
we're
back
to
IHC,
but
all
due
respect
to
the
Appellate
Court,
we
may
not
have
a
project
because
we
may
not
have
funding.
D
N
K
N
The
appeal
feels
more
of
a
question
about
the
interpretation
of
the
10
years
and
all
of
that
that's
the
appeal
and
my
understanding,
but
that's
different
from
saying
yeah
if
they
can
satisfy
it
in
a
way
that
the
judge
is
agreeable
to
then
we're
still
able
to
award
them
the
contract,
that's
different,
so
that
we
that's
still
even
if
we
go
forward
with
this
tonight,
that's
still
a
possibility.
So
yeah.
L
A
A
Just
leave
it
at
that:
okay
item
A7,
all
in
favor.
F
A
Bye
so
I
have,
let's.
B
N
That
last
question
is
important.
To
me
is,
is
that
was.
L
E
B
Thank
you,
Madam
chair
I
had
some
questions
on
a11,
just
to
clarify
what
exactly
we're
getting
with
this
expenditure
and
as
I'm
understanding
it.
It's
almost
forty
nine
thousand
dollars
for
a
website
and
paying
somebody
else
to
develop.
That
website.
B
P
Good
evening
council
member
Kelly
members
of
the
committee,
Deputy
city
manager,
stormbeck
Edward,
caino,
Public,
Works
agency,
director,
correct
48
867,
would
be
for
the
development
of
the
lead
service
line,
replacement
webpage,
be
able
to
give
all
the
important
information
and
Technical
data
that
the
city
is
required
to
give
to
to
the
residents.
Currently,
we
feel
that
we
do
not
have
that
expertise
in-house
also
it
would
be.
D
B
B
P
P
Q
Staff
is
concerned
that
this
is
a
an
important
project
that
will
impact
every
property
well
residential
property.
In
Evanston.
We
want
to
engage
the
community
members
with
all
the
detailed
facts,
both
in
English
and
in
Spanish.
We.
Q
Currently,
in
the
city
do
not
have
a
digital
specialist
that
would
create
the
website.
In
addition,
we've
been
trying
to
hire
a
civil
engineer
too
at
the
Water
Division
for
a
long
time
that
would
help
manage
the
lead
service
line
replacement
program.
We've
been
unsuccessful
in
filling
that
job
for
over
a
year,
so
we
we
don't
have
bandwidth
with
our
current
staff,
not
only
the
digital
Specialists,
but
also
somebody
that's
helping
at
the
water
plant
to
manage
the
lead
service
line
replacement
program
to
develop
this
website.
Q
We
expect
funding
to
be
rolling
in
next
year.
We
we
have
a
loan
application
in
to
the
iepa
to
get
four
million
dollars,
so
this
program
is
geared
to
take
off
next
year,
as
you
receive
those
dollars,
and
even
if
we're
successful
in
getting
the
digital
specialist
in
the
budget
for
23.
Until
you
hire
that
position,
it
could
be
two
months
down
the
road
and
I.
Don't
know
when
we're
going
to
be
able
to
find
a
civil
engineer
too.
That
will
help
us
at
the
water
plant
to
manage
all
this.
So
yes,
I,
agree.
Q
B
D
Q
B
E
Thank
you,
I
agree,
I'm,
not
gonna.
This
is
a
I
think,
a
relatively
small
dollar
amount
of
48
000,
but
I
I
do
just
want
to
I
agree.
I
would
like
to
build
this
capacity,
but
I
think
for
what
I
think
is
being
described
here.
It
wouldn't
just
be
hiring
one
new,
employee,
I,
think
it'd
be
a
small
team
of
a
few
folks
to
build.
You
know,
have
the
capacity
internally
to
build
a
website
from
the
ground
up,
so
I
think
we're.
E
You
know
I'm
talking
about
potentially
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
to
actually
be
able
to
do
what
what
we're
talking
about-
and
you
know
if
we're
only
doing
this
a
few
times
a
year,
three
or
four
times
a
year.
Maybe
it
does
just
make
sense
to
to
have
to
pay
a
contractor
in
this
in
this
sense,
so
I
I
support
this
I
think
it
makes
sense.
E
I
I
would
like
to
look
into
that,
but
I
do
think
it
would
be
larger
than
just
hiring
one
person
to
be
a
team
of
three
but
it'd
be
nice
to
have
that
kind
of
capacity
internally
and.
P
As
bureau
chief
can
just
reminded
me,
this
is
also
comes
with
the
extension
to
extend
the
Engineering
Services
for
support
with
the
lead
service
line,
replacement
pilot.
L
I
keep
hearing
consultants
and
it
worries
me
I,
believe
having
just
recently
worked
with
you
that
you're
doing
the
best
and
that
we
are
short
staffed
and
we
are
looking
at
creating
new
positions,
filling
out
positions,
I'm
going
to
keep
sticking
to
that
that
we
have
to
look
at
hiring
the
talent
that
helps
keep
these
jobs
and
these
responsibilities
in-house
and
not
keep
having
Consultants
so
I
appreciate
that
we
need
this,
that
we
need
to
do
this,
but
I'm
going
to
still
stand
with.
We
got
to
figure
out
how
to
do
it
internally.
A
K
E
B
Madam,
chair
I'll,
move
item
a13
the
report
on
the
emergency
replacement
of
two
boilers
at
noise,
Cultural
Arts
Center
by
Great,
Lakes,
plumbing
and
heating
company.
A
B
Will
support
this?
We
don't
really
have
much
choice
at
this
point
anyway,
but
I.
Just
you
know,
wanted
to
go
on
record
that
I'm
disappointed
that
we
end
up
in
a
place
where
we
have
to,
on
an
emergency
basis,
replace
infrastructure,
HVAC
infrastructure
with
with
natural
gas
infrastructure,
I
liked
us
as
a
city
to
get
to
a
place
where
we're
thinking
ahead,
and
we
don't
end
up
having
to
replace
things
like
this
on
an
emergency
basis.
B
We
can
thoughtfully
plan
for
a
conversion
to
an
all-electric
future
in
accordance
with
our
commitments
under
our
climate
action
and
resilience
plans.
Yeah
end
of
speech.
L
I'm
sorry
too
many
buttons
to
push
just
wondering
do
we
have
records
of
maintenance
seems
like
a
lot
of
things
are
happening
so
I'm
just
wondering.
Do
we
have
records
of
our
maintenance?
How
often
we're
looking
at
things
so
that
we
don't
have
these
emergency
situations.
R
Madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
Sean
cholak
facilities
and
fleet
manager.
Yes,
we
do
have
some
records
paper
records.
We
are
currently
working
on
revamping
our
system
for
record
keeping
and
data
collection.
We
do
have
a
regular
PM
that
we
do
on
our
boilers
every
year.
R
We
start
them
up,
get
them
prep
them
get
them
ready
for
the
fall
in
this
case,
as
our
staff
was
doing
that
they
detected
some
things
that
you
know
were
of
concern
to
them
and
as
we
looked
into
it
further
with
some
additional
outside
Services,
we
discovered
that
you
know
the
spoilers
were
in
very
bad
shape
and
that
we
needed
to
take
one
of
them
out
of
commission
immediately
and
that
the
other
would
continue
to
provide
issues
throughout
the
winter.
L
R
L
E
Sean
all
right
I
was
a
little
worried
hearing
that
you
know
we
have
some
records
and
you
know
that
it's
on
paper
and
it's
difficult
to
locate
so
I
would
really
I.
Think
that
to
me
raises
for
your
department
to
start
looking
into
some
kind
of
software
that
allows
us
to.
You
know
efficiently
track
that
similar
to
you
know
what
you
know.
Some
of
the
upgrades
that
are
being
made
in
three
on
one-
and
you
know
having
a
very
clear
system
that
can
you
know
I,
would
imagine
that
something
like
that
exists.
E
R
Actually,
it
does
exist
and
we
are
currently
putting
that
you
know.
We've
got
a
program
called
view
works
that
were
implementing
it's
taken,
a
little
bit
of
time
to
enter
all
the
information
and
gather
it.
R
But
we
are
actively
working
on
that
and
we
have
a
plan
to
get
that
up
and
going
so
that
we
can
start
doing
better
data
collection
by
the
end
of
this
year.
It
should
be
up
and
going
now,
that
being
said,
it'll
still
take
some
time
together,
sure
all
that
information
and
build
a
a
better
database
over
time.
But
we
are
currently
working
on
that
and.
E
And
you
said
that
naming
the
software
is
view.
Works
works,
okay,
well,
glad
to
hear
the
second
to
follow
up
to
that
that
we
are
working
on
getting
and
maintaining
better
records.
So
looking
forward
to
learning
more
about
viewworks.
A
Thank
you.
Councilmember
Reed
I'd
also
like
to
just
go
on
record
asking
staff
going
forward
if
we
can
always
reach
out
also
to
our
local
firms
that
could
also
carry
these
out
to
get
their
possible
participation.
Thank
you
sure.
A
Okay,
all
in
favor
of
I,
A14
aye,
no.
A
Aye,
council,
member
Burns
and
read
aye:
okay,
the
eyes
have
it.
Okay.
That
concludes
the
consent
agenda.
We
now
move
to
item
A14.
Would
somebody
like
to
move
item
A14
I.
E
Move
item
814
resolution
63r22
recognizing
the
public
benefit
of
the
city,
paying
private
sewer
repair
line,
cost
in
excess
of
fifteen
thousand
dollars
per
repair
for
a
residential
property.
A
E
A
Mean
yes,
you
want
to
make
the
motion
right.
Thank
you
move
what
yeah,
if
you
want
to
go
out
a
movie
that'd
be
great.
Oh.
E
And
so
the
modification
would
be
to
it's
I
think
you
emailed
it
to
the
committee
I.
A
So
what
I've
I
just
omitted
the
part
regarding
that
the
value
of
the
home,
because,
as
we
know
in
Evanston,
if
you
are
elderly
and
you
bought
your
home
many
years
ago,
the
value
could
easily
be
over
500
000,
even
if
you
bought
it
for
a
hundred
thousand
or
two
hundred
thousand.
A
So
that,
and
that
would
just
you
know,
require
just
constant
updating,
so
I
removed
that
part
and
I
also
removed
the
part
regarding
insurance,
though
I
think
it
would
be
a
good
idea,
I'd
like
to
ask
that
we
do
well
I've,
also
shared
with
you.
I
consult
with
my
insurance
agents,
State
Farm,
and
they
said
there
is
no
such
coverage
even
available.
I
can't
even
buy
into
it.
A
So
I
just
wanted
to
remove
those
items
so
that
it's
a
Sim
so
that
so
the
resolution
is
as
originally
plan
where,
if
a
resident
earns
200,
000
or
less
as
put
forward,
as
evidenced
by
income
tax
statement-
and
there
is
a
lateral
sewer
work
to
be
done
under
the
public
way
that
the
city
would
pick
up
the
cost
if
it
were
to
exceed
any
amount
that
exceeded
fifteen
thousand
dollars
and
I
just
want
to
State
I've
I
also
sent
forward
a
statement
from
the
water
senior
water
manager
in
Oak
Park,
because
in
Oak
Park
they
do
this.
A
They
actually
they
cover
it.
For
everybody-
and
it's
explained
in
that
letter
that
I
shared
with
everybody
here,
they
cover
the
residential,
lateral
sewer
work.
If
it's
under
the
public
way
from
the
curb-
and
he
explained
also
the
cost
involved-
that,
for
the
most
part
it's
under
five
thousand
dollars-
and
his
feeling
was
that,
generally
speaking
for
fifteen
thousand,
he
he
felt
the
city
wouldn't
would
likely
not
be
on
the
hook
for
anything
except
for
a
rare
occasion.
A
I
shared
that
with
everybody
and
I'm
sorry
I
just
got
the
email
from
him
this
afternoon
that
he
couldn't
be
here.
So
he
did
share
that
statement.
I
won't
read
it
now,
but
it's
in
your
email,
so
Oak
Park
covers
it
entirely.
The
city
of
Chicago
covers
entirely
for
all
their
residents.
They
cover
the
full
cost
of
any
work
done
under
the
public
way.
Again
we're
saying
fifteen
thousand
dollars
it.
A
A
You
know
so
that
we're
applying
more
of
a
racial
Equity
analysis
so
that,
in
fact,
maybe
for
some
incomes
we
reduce
that
amount,
but
that
it
is
really
important
that
we
do
do
something.
At
this
point,
many
cities
across
the
state
do
this,
including
my
hometown
of
Rock,
Island
and
many
others,
and
I,
can
just
give
you
a
few
names
that
offer
relief
for
residents
when
they
have
sewer
work
under
the
public
way,
such
as
well
Elgin
Des,
Plaines,
Oak,
Park,.
A
And
and
others
so
anyway,
I
just
hope
we
can
move
forward
with
this
and
again,
I
would
like
to
I'm
hoping
that
we'll
pass.
This
and
I
would
like
to
ask
staff
to
to
consider
amending
this
in
the
future
to
work
with
Gare
they've
offered
their
services
again.
The
senior
director
Gordon
Goodwin
has
asked
that
staff.
You
know
consider
amending
this
to
strengthen
it
even
more
for
particularly
for
our
residents
of
very
low
income.
Thank
you.
E
Yes,
I'm
sorry,
so
I.
E
I
can
I'm
not
gonna
make
the
motion
for
you
I'll.
Let
you
do
that,
but
what
I
am
going
to
do
is
I
I.
Do
support
bringing
the
number
down
to
10
000.
I
think
there
is
support
here
to
move
from
15
to
10.,
so
I'm
gonna
move
that
we
amend
all
of
the
sections
that
make
a
reference
to
in
excess
of
15
000
and
move
that
down
to
ten
thousand.
So
I
do
support
that
I.
I.
Sorry,.
A
So
would
that
be
an
additional
Amendment?
How
does
that
work
with
I'm.
E
Okay,
I'm
not
making
so
the
reason
I
I
apologize,
I
thought
this
is
a
different
amendment.
I
I,
don't
necessarily
support.
Eliminating
the
you
know,
market
value
of
your
home
portion
I
would
support
increasing
that
dollar
amount
to
you
know
a
house:
that's
in
excess
of
600
700,
whatever
a
million
dollars,
but
I
do
think
there
is
you
know
if
you
have
a
million
dollar
house
I,
don't
know
if
we
need
to
or
two
million
dollar
house
I
don't
know
if
we
need
to
cover
the
cost
for
you.
So.
N
E
N
Ahead
so
Dave
quick
question:
the
the
the
sewer
system
sewer
lines
is
it
similar
to
where
there's
two
sections
where
it's
similar
to
water
lines,
where
it's
to
the
curb
to
the
to
the
where
there's
a
there's,
a
component
of
it
that
starts
at
the
home
and
then
goes
to
the
curb
and
then
there's
another
component
from
the
curve
to
there.
N
Q
The
city
the
current
city
code
indicates
that
the
property
owner
is
responsible
for
the
private
sewer
service
from
the
house,
all
the
way
to
and
including
the
connection
to,
the
city's
Main
Line
sewer
and
then
Evanston.
The
city's
main
light
sewers
generally
located
in
the
center
line
of
the
street.
N
N
A
The
remain
to
the
main,
it's
all
the
lateral,
the
lateral
sewer
lines
that
can,
including
the
connection
to
the
main,
to
the
curb
where
the
private
well,
in
this
case,
in
the
case
of
Oak
Park,
it's
the
street
in
other
cities.
It
includes
a
sidewalk,
but
in
the
case
of
Oak
Park,
it's
to
the
curb
of
the
street
and
I
just
want
to
add
they
do
in
Oak
Park.
A
The
residents
are
responsible
for
paying
for
the
televising,
so
they
pay
for
the
televising
to
determine
the
location
of
the
that
needs
to
be
repaired.
And
if
it's
under
private
property,
the
resident
pays
for
it
and
if
it's
under
public
property,
then
the
city
pays
for
it.
It's
similar
in
Chicago,
so.
N
N
A
A
So
and
again
you
know.
So
how
do
we
do
this?
With
my
amendments
in
your
Amendment
I
would
I
hope
that
we
don't
have
to
go
for
property
value.
At
this
point,
someone
who
owns
a
two
million
dollar
house
likely
is
not
going
to
be,
is
going
to
be
earning
over
200
000
and
also
with
the
numbers
that
we
previously
saw
regarding
potential
costs.
We
didn't
see
the
income
that
was
attached
to
it's
possible.
The
city
had
that
been
a
rule
back
then
as
possible.
A
We
wouldn't
have
been
on
the
hook
for
any
dollar
amount,
also
because
we
don't
know
what
the
income
levels
were
and
I
think
it's
worth,
stating
that
those
making
200
000
that
has
increased
over
the
years
we're
getting
close
to
20
percent.
Unfortunately,
people
also
poverty
has
increased
so
we're
having
an
increase
on
both
ends.
B
So
all
these
details
can
be
worked
out
and
everyone
has
them
in
front
of
them.
Every
member
of
this
committee
and
the
members
of
the
public
and
staff,
so
we're
not
all
trying
to
pick
up
the
pieces
in
15
minutes
and
figure
out
what
it
was
we
just
approved.
I,
don't
think
this
is
an
efficient
way
of
of
making
policy.
A
Okay,
I,
okay,
that
that's
fine
I
just
do
want
to
State,
though
that
I
think
everybody
agrees
from
people
speaking
from
gear,
that
we
need
to
do
something
that
the
way
our
current
policy
stand,
it's
very
unequitable,
extremely
inequitable
and
right
now
we
leave
resident
we're
gonna.
You
know
we
we
risk
pushing
yet
more
people
out
of
Evanston
ever
since
become
very
unaffordable.
So
I
just
ask
okay.
If
you
want
to
give.
B
A
B
Be
50
million,
probably
not,
but
even
if
it's
ten
percent
of
that,
that's
something
we
should
know
about
so
I
see
the
way
the
wind
is
blowing
I.
Don't
think
I'm
going
to
be
able
to
convince
you
to
not
do
this,
but
if
we
are
going
to
do
it,
let's
do
it
in
such
a
way
that
we
know
what
the
heck
we're
doing
and
we
know
what
we're
talking
about.
B
A
A
N
D
C
N
A
A
minute
so
we'll
make
sure
that
everybody
has
all
the
information
ahead
of
time
to
study,
and
perhaps
if,
if
staff
could
consult
with
care,
they
would
like
to
also
help
with
this
they
fill
even
fifteen
thousand
I'm
glad
it
was
motion
to
move
it
to
10.
that
that
that
is
also.
A
You
know
that
we
should
be
looking
at
this
again
within
with
assessing
it
from
from
the
perspective
of
and
Equity
analysis
that
we
have
many
people,
even
ten
thousand
dollars
again
in
Chicago,
it's
covered
entirely
in
a
park
and
other
cities.
So
even
ten
thousand
of
that's
much
better
than
what
we
currently
have
on
our
books
we
might
want.
I
would
like
to
ask
if
staff
could
consider
preparing
a
document
that
would
working
with
care
for
our
next
meeting.
A
D
A
Tabled
and
seconded
all
in
favor
hi,
okay,
the
motion
to
have
this
tabled
until
November
17th.
E
You
don't
ask
for
Nays,
it's
just
it.
I'm.
A
A
This
okay,
any
objections.
D
A
E
Mean
it's
item
a16
resolution
one
112
R22
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
hire
participatory
budgeting
staff.
Second,.
A
Okay,
no
discussion
all
in
favor.
I
A
Aye
any
opposed
okay,
councilman
item
number
a16
passes,
go
ahead.
E
D
L
D
A
Opposed
okay,
moving
on
to
D1
discussion
and
who
would
like
to
move
item
D1.
N
Yes,
just
to
be
brief
on
this,
this
was
a
referral
that
I
made.
There
are
two
examples
that
I
know
of,
and
probably
many
more
where
a
a
tree
on
where
a
tenant
reported
a
rotten
Tree
on
a
private
on
private
property.
The
city
came
out
inspected.
It
don't
necessarily
know
how
that
you
know
I,
don't
think
we
have
a
program
to
do
that,
but
I
think
a
request
was
made
and
it
was
granted.
N
Someone
from
the
city
came
out
determined
that
the
tree
was
rotten
and
the
Tenant
reached
out
to
either
reach
out
to
the
landlord
or
in
and
did
not
get
a
response
eventually,
I
think
it.
These
ended
up
as
Property
Standards
complaints
are
the
current
code
states
that,
after
30
days
that
that
you
have
a
30-day
notice,
a
30-day
notice
is
provided
given
them
the
the
property
owner
times,
remove
the
tree.
If
the
tree
isn't
removed,
they're
fine,
which
is
essentially
how
most
of
our
kind
of
Property
Standards
process
goes.
N
The
issue
is
in
the
case
of
a
rotten
tree,
even
if
you
give
that
30-day
extension,
even
if
you
find
the
person
what
if
the
tree
falls
right
and
injure
someone
that
could
be
on
public
property
right
in
the
public
way,
driving
down
an
alley
walking
down
the
street.
So
in
these
particular
cases
that
I
was
made
aware
of
they
were
concerned,
they
reached
out
to
the
city
because
they
were
concerned
that
the
trees
were
going
to
fall.
They
both
in
fact
did
fall.
N
In
one
case,
it
fell
exactly
where
the
where
the
tenant
was
concerned.
It
was
going
to
fall,
which
was
into
the
bedroom
of
her
elderly
parent,
who
is
sick
and
thankfully
no
one
was
injured,
but
it
felt
exactly
where
they,
where
she
thought
the
tree
was
going
to
land
or
fall
and
in
the
in
the
other
case
it
it
fell
on
a
trampoline
in
the
backyard
where,
if
hours
before
or
or
after
this
tree
would
have
likely
injured
or
even
killed
young
people,
it
was.
N
This
was
a
particular
there's,
a
trampoline
that
that
young
people
frequented
so
I
think
it
is
incumbent
on
the
city
to
fundamentally
to
protect
people
from
harm
I.
N
Think
if
we
know
a
tree
is
rotten
and
we've,
given
that
30-day
period,
maybe
even
a
longer
period,
but
we've
given
some
period
for
the
for
the
property
owner
to
address
it,
that
we
should
be
able
to
go
out
and
and
and
remove
the
tree
or
to
address
you
know
the
damaged
tree
limbs
and
I
think
the
way
Council
price
our
Council
Cummins
described
is
that
it
could
be
a
lien
towards
the
property
so
that
we
could
recoup
those
funds.
Eventually,
we've
done
something
similar
to
this
before
that
I.
N
That
I'm
aware
of
where
there
was
a
water
service
line.
That
was
on
the
private
side
of
the
line
that
was
creating
a
tripping
Hazard
because
it
was
a
leak,
and
so
the
water
was
kind
of
coming
up
to
the
surface,
and
it
was
winter
time
and
it
was
it
created
a
slick
surface.
So
it
has
hazardous
situation
and
the
city
actually
went
in
and
repaired
the
water
service
line
after
repeated
attempts
to
try
to
get
the
landlord
to
fix
it.
N
The
city
did
it,
so
there
is
precedent
to
do
this
and
again
I
think
the
the
main
concern
is
that
a
tree
these
are
in
both
cases.
These
are
big
huge
trees
that
could
could
not
only
fall
and
and
injure
someone
on
the
private
property,
but
also
could
injure
someone
on
public
property
or
public
in
the
public
way.
Q
You,
the
the
reference
to
repairing
the
water
service
on
private
property,
occurred
after
January
1
2022,
in
which
city
council
approved
the
lead
service
line,
replacement
at
NoHo
no
cost
at
a
homeowner.
So
the
city
replaced
the
lead
service
line
under
that
mechanism
and
no
lien
was
filed.
We
replaced
it
for
free,
as
was
our
current
practice
now,
so
that
changed
someone
Alliance
yeah
that
changed
with
the
calendar
year
and
City
council's
direction
that
we
replaced
so.
N
Q
N
Q
Okay,
but
without
having
to
file
lien
to
yeah
on
the
property,
so
that
that's
what
the
city's
biggest
concern
is
is
filing
liens
on
properties
for
the
removal
of
a
dead
tree
or
a
dead
limb
on
a
tree
first,
the
city
staff
would
have
to
be
involved
with
hiring
a
contractor.
Q
What
the
the
issue
was
is
the
Forestry
Department,
then,
is
not
set
up
to
go
out
and
start
issuing
citations.
So
it
was
months
later
that
we
involved
Community
Development,
Property,
Standards
and
jointly
went
after
the
homeowner.
We
were
successful
in
getting
three
hundred
thousand
dollar
form.
I'm.
Sorry,
300,
fine
for
the
the
one
property,
the
other
one
we
didn't.
I
staff
recommends
it.
Q
Instead
of
doing
this,
we
staffers
realize
that
when
this
situation
occurs,
the
forestry
Department's
made
aware
of
it
and
if
it's
on
private
property,
the
the
forestry
division
and
Community
Development
Property
Standards
will
jointly
go
out
to
inspect
a
tree
and
give
the
30-day
notice.
But
then
the
Property
Standards
will
be
right
on
board
right
away
to
issue
the
citation
to
get
the
tree
removed.
We
go
to
adjudication
and
at
that
adjudication
meeting
staff
can
indicate
whether
this
is
something
there.
You
know
it
could
be
every
day
is.
Q
This
is
you're
in
default
of
the
not
curing
the
remedy
right.
So
if
it's
a
really
bad
one
that
we
need
removed,
we
can
start
saying
we're
going
to
find
you
300
a
day
and
I
think
that
that
will
get
their
the
property
owner
to
take
the
action
that
they
need
to
remove
the
tree
if
they
realize
that
they're
going
to
get
a
citation
of
that
amount
on
a
daily
basis.
Q
Staff
failed
to
properly
execute,
what's
already
Allowed
by
our
city
code
and
the
two
cases
that
you've
identified,
and
we
request
that
you
allow
staff
the
opportunity
to
correct
our
error
of
the
past
and
manage
this
situation
as
the
way
the
current
city
code
is
allowed.
Because,
again
we
we
don't
believe
that
staff
has
the
time
to
hire
an
outside
contractor,
receive
the
quotes,
award
the
project
and
then
start
the
whole
leading
process
to
get
the
homeowner
to
reimburse
us
for
it.
N
Yeah
I
mean
just
to
so,
we
can
move
on
the
next
one.
I
mean
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
this
referral
stays
open
because,
again,
I'm
leading
on
working
with
staff
on
a
lot
of
property.
Standardization
issues
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
are
finding
this
time,
town
for
property
status
violations
and
they
never
cure
them.
N
And
so
and
fundamentally,
my
concern
ultimately
is
trying
to
save
someone
from
being
injured
or
killed
because
of
a
big
tree
falls,
especially
after
attended
on
on
repeated
on
on,
has
repeatedly
reached
out
to
the
city,
making
several
Property
Standards
complaints
about
this
so
I
want
I
want
to.
You
know:
I'm
fine,
with
with
trying
that
and
but
I
would
like
to
keep
this
this
referral
current,
so
that
I
can
keep
track
of
what's
happening
and,
if
need
be,
we
can
bring
this
back
up.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair
yeah.
You
know
I
think
if
we're
talking
in
a
potential
Hazard
to
life
and
limb
that
it
merits,
you
know
more
attention
than
it
might
otherwise.
I
totally
understand
that
the
lean
remedy
is
kind
of
cumbersome
and
not
the
best,
at
least
not
the
best
first
course
of
action.
In
this
case,
I
had
a
question
about
how
a
problem
a
tree,
limb
being
in
danger
of
falling
down.
If
that
tree
was
on
city
property,
how
would
that
get
addressed?.
Q
It
would
come
in
through
the
Forestry
Department
and
then
somebody
from
the
forest
Department
would
go
out
analyze
the
tree
and
if
they
felt
that
it
was
an
immediate
danger,
we
go
out
and
hire
a
contractor.
We
get
the
three
quotes
and
hire
contract
or
remove
the.
Q
B
Q
Q
That
is
correct,
because
we
will
hire
a
plumber
to
replace
the
portion
of
the
lead
service
line
that
is
on
private
property
and
City
staff
will
do
the
portion
of
the
lead
service
line.
That
is,
on
the
Public's
on
the
public
side.
So
going
back
to
council
member
burns,
the
city
hired
a
plumber
to
go
in
and
replace
the
lead
service
line
from
the
home
out
to
the
Parkway
and
the
city
did
from
Parkway
to
the
street.
But.
B
Q
Again,
I'm,
not
an
attorney
so
I
I,
don't
know
whether
a
tenant
would
be
allowed
soon
or
there
may
not
even
be
a
potent.
It
could
be
a
a
rich
single-family
home.
The
tree
branch
is
going
over
to
the
neighbor's
property
and
could
potentially
fall
and
break
the
fence
between
the
properties
or
it,
the
adjoining
neighbors
property,
and
if
the
gates
are
all
locked,
I,
don't
know
how
the
city
would
get
in
there
to
cure
that.
We
would
have
the
same
issue
if
we
hired
a
contractor
to
contractor.
How
do
we
get
in
right.
N
Okay,
thank
you.
Yeah
I
just
want
to
say
it's
the
same
way.
The
tenants
let
people
in
with
most
Property
Standards
issues
so
I
think
the
tenant
again.
The
examples
that
I
provided
is
not
somebody
that
owner
occupied
residents.
This
is
something
where
there's
a
tenant,
so
in
the
same
way
the
tenant
allows
the
city
in
to
address
other
Property
Standards
issues
is
the
same
same
thing
that
would
happen
here
and
then
also
from
talking
to
council
Cummins.
He
did
feel
the
fact
that
this
was
something
that
reached
that
level.
N
That
would
allow
us
to
not
have
to
get
permission
from
from
the
owner,
because,
again
it's
the
tree
has
already
been
determined
that
it's
rotten
and-
and
we
have
several
other
recent
cases
that
shows
that
if
the
tree
is
rotting
and
there's
a
big
weather
event
big
storm,
you
know
it's
the
high
high
chance
that
it's
going
to
fall
down.
I
think
we
could.
You
know
we
have
enough
evidence
to
to
support
it
so,
but
again,
I'm
fine,
keep
keeping
this
referral
active.
N
This
is
a
big
issue
again
in
a
short
period
of
time.
This
has
happened
twice,
but
I'm
I'm
happy
to
see
if
this
works,
but
if
it
doesn't
I
want
to
be
able
to
come
back
in
and
make
sure
that
we
can
address
it.
N
So
I
don't
know
how
this
how
the
memo
ended
up,
focusing
probably
80
on
on
body
cameras,
because
if
you
read
the
original
referral
it,
the
referral
itself
had
nothing
to
do
about
body
cameras.
The
referral
was
actually
about
creating
a
or
or
expanding
our
complaint
process
to
include
all
code
enforcement
officers
and
then
there's
another
requestion
on
the
referral
form.
For
my
colleagues
up
here.
That
says
like
explain
how
this
policy
change
could
possibly
impact
other
policies
that
we
have
and
I
said.
N
Well,
you
know
one
of
the
things
it
it
we
could
look
at
is
expanding
the
Bali
body,
cam
policy,
but
the
referral
itself
had
nothing
to
do
with
dash
cam
or
body
body.
Warm
cameras
and
the
only
reason
I
say
it's
unfortunate
that
it
focusing
on
that,
because
the
actual
referral
had
more
to
do
with
seeing
if
we
could,
one
of
the
things
is
seeing
if
our
the
the
complaint
I
can't
remember
the
committee
that
that
reviews,
the
police,
complaint
complaints.
J
N
Review
commission
could
expand
the
complain,
points
that
they
review
to
include
all
code
enforcement
officers
and
if
that
would
and
I
think
in
the
memo,
it
said
that
that
staff
hadn't
reached
out
to
them
yet
to
get
their
interests,
which
I
don't
know,
necessarily
why
we
would
do
that.
But
but
if
we
were
to
do
that,
I
would
have
it
expected
that
to
happen
by
now,
because
then
we
could
have
that
discussion,
so,
unfortunately,
the
memo
really
unless
it's
changed
since
the
last
time
this
came
up.
N
It
doesn't
really
address
the
the
referral
itself,
which
is
again
creating
some
transparent
and
public
process
to
review
complaints
against
all
code
enforcement
officers
and
not
just
police
officers.
B
Just
weigh
in
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
have
some
kind
of
formalized
complaint
procedure
for
building
inspectors
and
anybody
else
for
that
matter.
Does
it
fit
into
the
police,
complaint
protocol
or
somewhere
else?
That's
the
question
we
need
to
discuss.
That's
not
going
to
happen
tonight.
Body
cameras
on
a
property
inspector
is
not
something
I'm
super
thrilled
about.
N
A
So
yes,
I
agree
on
both
those
accounts
that
body
cameras
feels
invasive
on
property
inspectors
and
also
where,
where
that
belongs,
it
seems
like
apnw,
for
that
particular
item
might
not
be
the
right
place,
but
we
can
discuss
that
another
time.
Okay,
any
other
items
for
communication.
N
I
guess
just
to
make
it
clear,
because
I
was
speaking
it's
just
at
the
next
minute.
I
would
like
to
get
that
to
have
that
information
available
in
terms
of
let's
have
the
conversations
with
the
the
Review
Committee
to
see
what
they
think
and
then,
if
not
that,
where,
where
does
this
fit,
you
know
so
we
can
discuss
it.
Thank
you.
A
A
move
to
adjourn
this
meeting.
Second,
all
in
favor
aye,
okay,
apnw
adjourned
at.