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Any
changes,
no
okay,
not
nobody
opposed
all
right
and
it's
our
approved.
We'll
now
move
to
public
comment.
F
First,
thank
you
very
much
for
allowing
us
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
you.
What
we're
here
to
talk
about
tonight
is
what
we
feel
is
a
fairly
simplistic
issue
that
we're
having
with
respect
to
truck
traffic,
rolling
down
Main
Street,
trying
to
deliver
material
into
Evanston
Lumber
via
Custer,
so
Richard.
You
want
to
elaborate.
G
G
The
turn
at
Main
Street
onto
Custer
for
these
semi
trucks
that
are
sometimes
in
length
of
53
feet
is
a
very
difficult
turn
to
navigate,
and
on
top
of
that,
there's
the
Post
Office
right
there
on
the
corner,
so
people
are
parking
in
front
of
the
post
office
continually
illegally.
G
That's
the
most
important
thing,
obviously,
is
the
safety
of
your
constituents
here
in
Evanston
and
any
other
Shoppers
that
are
coming
into
the
neighborhood.
You
know
that's
what
we're
most
concerned
about.
Obviously
the
the
other
part
of
this
is
that
we
were
told
that
there's
a
Main
Street
project
going
to
be
happening
within
the
next
year
or
two
that
is
going
to
shrink
the
size
of
mainstream
even
further,
which
will
make
it
virtually
impossible
for
the
semi
trucks
to
make
that
turn
at
Main.
G
Street
onto
Custer,
so
the
proposed
what
was
proposed
to
us
was
being
able
to
have
these
trucks
come
down,
Oakton
Street,
to
Custer,
and
at
that
intersection
it's
a
four-way,
stop
sign,
it's
a
fairly
large
intersection
with
much
less
traffic
than
at
Main
Street
and
an
easier
turn
for
these
trucks
to
make
and
then
have
a
straight
shot
in
coming
into
Custer.
Okay,.
F
Well,
obviously,
truck
traffic
is
vital
to
keeping
our
business
open.
We
have
everything
delivered
to
Lumberyard
on
the
backs
of
these
semis,
so
you
know
this
is
crucial
for
our
operation
of
our
company.
Obviously,
we've
been
in
business
at
that
location
since
1948.,
so
we
want
to
continue
staying
in
Evanston
and
operating
and
we're
just
trying
to
alleviate
that
really
difficult
turn
dangerous
turn,
which,
for
years,
we've
kind
of
watched
it
and
witnessed
a
few
of
our
the
semis
delivering
to
us
getting
in
accidents
at
that
corner.
A
A
H
I
shop
at
Evanston
Lumber
keep
these
guys
in
business.
Please
they're
great
okay,
APW
item
A3,
so
I
understand
you
can't
buy
an
electric
truck
for
250
000
or
you
don't
want
to
wait
for
it,
but
that
truck
will
be
in
existence,
probably
for
20
30
years
burning
gas
playground,
equipment
for
A4
for
thirty
four
thousand
dollars.
Is
this
an
urgent
item,
or
could
this
not
be
postponed?
H
I,
don't
recall
any
resolutions
regarding
emergency
playground,
equipment,
A7,
25
to
30
000,
to
have
some
hire
somebody
to
assist
with
reimagining
Public
Safety.
Why
do
we
need
an
assistant
to
reimagine
public
safeties
I
thought
that
conversation
was
nearly
over
and
we
should
save
that
money.
H
A
Ford,
eighth
A9,
a
43
500
change
order
to
make
a
new
Total
contract
of
376
thousand
dollars
for
the
consultant
who's.
Doing
the
big
rock
solutions
to
the
lakefront
protection.
I
saw
the
presentation
at
the
library
a
week
or
so
ago.
Nothing
but
big
boulders.
Imagine
northwestern's
Edge
all
the
way
up
and
down
the
lakefront.
That's
what
I
saw
very
unimaginative
and
I.
Don't
think
that
should
be
for
action.
H
H
H
B
Yeah
I
don't
see
Mr
Green,
so
Dave
alley.
I
To
pen
my
name
is
Dave
Ellis
great
to
be
here
and
talking
with
you
guys
about
pension
funding.
I've
been
talking
about
this
for
since
probably
1981
I've
seen
all
the
iterations
combinations
and
cajoling
going
on
with
pension
funding
in
the
city.
Since
then
I'm
a
retired
fireman
I
was
a
fireman
paramedic
for
Robinsons
for
34
years
born
and
raised
in
Evanston
went
to
all
the
school
systems
here
raised.
My
family
here
still
live
here
in
the
Seventh
Ward
pension
funding
is
going
to
continue
to
be
the
largest
burden
to
taxpayers
that
they'll
ever
see.
I
Councils
in
the
past
have
directed
Corps
Corp
legal
corporate
Council
to
bankrupt
the
pension
system
in
the
70s
and
80s.
There
was
Zero
funding
put
in
dollars
put
in
it
during
that
time,
Jack
Siegel,
former
corporate
Council
in
under
Julia
Carroll's
tenure,
did
address
the
city
council
in
open
meeting
and
say
that's
what
their
the
plan
was
that
got
taken
to
court
and
that
didn't
work.
So
we've
been
behind
the
eight
ball
with
pension
funding
for
decades.
I
This
is
going
to
come
home
to
roost
for
the
taxpayers.
If
we
don't
fund
the
pensions
now
with
a
decisive
budget
action
long
term
at
100
percent,
the
taxpayers
are
going
to
take
a
tremendous
beating.
Pension
funding
is
only
funded
through
property
taxes.
That's
it.
The
mechanism
is
in
place
to
do
it.
It's
a
contractual
obligation.
The
city
has
with
the
Pension
funds,
there's
no
getting
out
of
it.
There's
no
bankrupting
the
Pension
funds.
The
city
has
assets
that
could
come
into
play.
If
that
was
that
was
going
to
be
a
thing.
I
I
think
it
serves
all
citizens,
all
taxpayers,
the
bond
service
and
everything
that
we
do,
the
financially
the
right
thing
of
funding
pensions
at
a
hundred
percent,
I
think
the
money
is
there
it's
a
matter
of
priorities
and
it's
also
a
matter
of
the
welfare
and
the
health
of
the
economic
stability
of
the
city.
I
hope
that
the
council
can
look
past
the
the
past
and
look
forward
and
get
this
thing
funded
appropriately
and
for
once
and
for
all,
so
it's
not
going
to
be
an
annual
semi-annual
issue.
I
B
Next
is
Francine
Allen.
J
To
everyone
I
want
to
take
one
minute
to
thank
the
APW
committee
for
your
time,
your
work,
your
research,
your
robust
discussions
and
dedication
to
helping
Evanston
residents.
It
was
exactly
two
years
ago
today,
the
week
before,
Thanksgiving,
that
my
sewer
system
was
declared
failed.
When
I
was
informed,
it
would
cost
forty
five
thousand
dollars
to
regain
Sewer
Service
I
contacted
the
city
seeking
help.
J
I
was
informed
other
than
a
low
interest
loan.
That
would
require
placing
a
lien
on
my
property.
There
was
no
insistence
as
I
struggled
to
on
my
own
to
navigate
through
a
very
complex
process
to
fix
my
sewer
I
made
it
my
personal
mission
to
make
sure
no
other
Evanston
resident
would
need
to
use
life
savings
to
pay
for
a
functional
toilet
and
Sewer.
As
you
look
at
the
data
provided
on
pages
13
and
14
of
today's
packet
from
the
years
2016
through
2022,
my
forty
five
thousand
dollar
repair
was
by
far
the
most
expensive.
J
B
I
believe
that's
the
last
in
person.
It's
then
Angela
Anderson.
K
Hi
this
is
Susan
dockstader
I
was
let
me
get
my
camera
set
up
there.
We
go
I
wanted
to
comment
publicly
on.
Let
me
get
the
resolution
up
resolution
119
R22
authorizing
City
staff
to
issue
a
memorandum
to
the
Evanston
Police
Department
traffic
enforcement,
with
a
notification
regarding
incoming
delivery
trucks
to
Evanston
Lumber
I
find
it
really
concerning
that
this
is
on
is
up
for
discussion.
K
Well,
better
discussion
than
decision
Oakton
Street
has
I
live
in.
Ninth
ward
and
I
see
how
backed
up
Oakton
gets
frequently
during
the
week.
It's
a
a
thoroughfare
that
three
schools
are
on:
Oakton
Elementary,
shoot
middle
school
and
Dawes
Elementary,
and
there
are
some
parts
near
McCormick
Place,
where
McCormick's
place,
where
it's
very
wide,
but
generally
it's
not
a
wide
Street.
K
There
were
traffic
calming
measures
and
implemented
to
make
it
narrower
in
spots,
and
this
street
is
also
used
for
access
to
South,
Boulevard
and
Lakeshore,
which
then
leads
you
onto
Lakeshore
Drive,
eventually
Sheridan
Road,
Lakeshore
Drive.
It
has
access
to
Major
hospital
with
an
emergency
room
and
there's
just
a
a
lot
of
foot
traffic
during
the
time
of
day
on
weekdays.
K
When
made
these,
if
this
resolution
were
passed,
that
these
trucks
would
be,
the
semi
trucks
would
be
passing
through
the
neighborhood,
and
so
I
would
like
to
I
would
like
for
your
committee
to
not
recommend
this
resolution.
K
I
understand
there
are
difficulties
with
the
main
and
Custer
intersection,
but
I
don't
think
the
answer
is
to
Route
semi
trucks
through
down
numbers
down,
Oakton
Street
and
of
Custer
Avenue
to
Evanston
Lumber.
Thank
you
very
much.
L
Yeah,
thank
you
for
taking
my
public
comment
request.
My
name
is
Doug
sharp
I
am
a
resident
of
the
Ninth
Ward
and
live
on
Cleveland
Street
West
of
Dodge
and
just
a
few
blocks
north
of
Oakton
I'm
speaking
in
opposition
to
item
D1
resolution
119
R22,
which
would
allow
for
the
large
delivery
trucks
heading
for
Evanston
Lumber
to
reroute
them
for
Main
Street
to
Oakton.
L
I
have
several
reasons
for
opposing
this
resolution.
Oakton
Street
already
has
a
serious
truck
and
traffic
problem.
It
is
a
very
busy
thoroughfare
for
traffic
entering
and
leaving
Evanston,
including
large
trucks
heading
to
Orange,
Crush,
ozenga,
North,
Shore,
tunneling,
Evanston,
Organics
and
numerous
auto
repair
shops.
L
L
The
city
has
already
invested
139
thousand
dollars
on
an
engineering
study
that
will
hopefully
address
the
existing
traffic
congestion
and
pedestrian
safety
issues
on
Oakton
the
city
plans
to
implement
this
project
next
summer.
It
clearly
does
not
make
sense
for
the
city
to
spend
these
resources
to
solve
the
current
truck
problem
and
then
turn
around
and
add
more
track
truck
traffic
to
the
street.
In
summary,
the
city
should
not
ignore
the
risks
and
negative
impacts
of
this
resolution,
which
would
affect
hundreds
of
Evanston
households
along
the
length
of
Oakton
simply
to
accommodate
a
single
business.
B
In
addition
to
that,
the
city
clerk
has
forwarded
10
emails
from
community
members
indicating
their
opposition
to
that
resolution
as
well.
I,
don't
think
that
there's
anybody
else
here
for
public
on
it.
A
And
Schoolmaster.
A
So
I've
asked
as
I
feel
it's
of
extreme
importance
that
council
members
and
the
public
be
aware
of
our
Public
Safety
pension
and
our
Public
Public
Safety
pension
liability
and
where
we
stand
today
to
be
informed
when
we
make
decisions
about
our
budget,
I've
asked
Mr
Schoolmaster
to
give
us
a
short
presentation
so
that
we
have
a
better
understanding
about
where
the
city
stands
to
date
and
and
and
what
sort
of
decision
we
should
make
in
terms
of
funding
our
Evanston,
Police
and
Fire
pension.
Thank
you.
M
Aldermen,
thank
you
very
much.
Alderman
our
councilman
member
Kelly,
it's
hard
for
me
to
change
that.
I.
Remember
back
there.
There
were
18
Alder
persons
up
here
and
that
was
reduced.
The
the
staff
has
and
if
this
needs
to
be
tied
to
a
budget
item,
A1
payrolls,
my
members,
fire
members,
make
contributions
to
this
fund
every
two
weeks
and
now
we're
talking
about
the
city.
The
potential
City
contribution
and
I
noted
that
there
were
a
number
of
new
council
members
this
year
and
I.
M
Thank
you
for
stepping
up,
but
some
of
this
must
be
bewildering.
You
must
be
asking
yourself
what
was
I
thinking
when
I
did
this,
but
thank
you
for
serving.
We
have
had
a
presentation
from
our
actuary
Jason
Franken
of
Foster
and
Foster,
and
Jason
can
talk
for
three
days
at
a
time
about
stuff.
Only
he
understands
I
wanted
to
make
something
a
little
bit
simpler,
so
that
we
we
can
make
sure
we
understand
and
that
the
taxpayers
understand
what's
really
going
on
here.
M
So
without
further
ado,
Evanston,
as
you
may
know,
has
had
police
officers
since
1863
the
the
police
pension
fund
was
created
in
1911
and
we've
paid
benefits
without
interruption.
Since
then,
Evanston
utilized,
volunteer,
firefighters
from
1875
to
about
1883
and
the
fireman's
pension
fund
was
chartered
two
years
after
ours
was
Pension,
funds,
pay,
retirement,
death
and
disability
benefits.
M
M
It
was
difficult
for
me
to
pay
Evanston
property
taxes,
all
that
life
on
my
police
officer
and
police,
Sergeant
salary,
I
moonlighted,
as
a
senior
lecturer
at
a
nearby
private
university
for
34
years
and
I
paid
into
Social
Security
fully,
but
over
60
percent
of
that
is
confiscated,
even
though
I've
paid
into
that.
So
we
are
not
in
Social
Security
and
the
contributions
are
both
the
employer
and
the
employee
go
to
pay
for
Public,
Safety,
Services,
already
rendered
and
under
for
future
Services,
which
means,
if
you
completely
eliminated
the
police
or
fire
departments
tomorrow.
M
The
funds
are
bodies
politic,
they're,
separate
and
distinct
from
the
city
they're
created
by
the
Illinois
legislature,
they're
funded
by
a
city,
property
tax.
They
hold
funds
and
Trust
for
the
members
of
the
fund,
both
active
and
retired,
and
they
are
governed
by
a
separate
Board
of
Trustees
by
Statute,
the
Evanston
Finance
director.
The
CFO
is
the
treasurer
of
each
fund,
but
he
cannot
move
money
or
do
anything
without
direction
from
the
board.
M
So
what
are
these
well?
They're
defined
benefit
plans.
They
are
deferred
piece
of
salary.
It's
a
promise
to
pay
later
for
work.
That's
being
done
now.
It's
a
contractual
obligation
of
employment,
it's
funded
by
both
the
employer
and
the
employee,
and
there
are
certainly
certain
tax
advantages
to
both.
M
It
also
has
Insurance
aspects:
it
plays
death
benefits
and
payments
to
workers
who
become
disabled
and
it
helps
attract
and
retained,
experienced
and
highly
trained
personnel
and
positions,
critical
to
The,
Continuous
and
reliable
delivery
of
vital
Public
Services.
You
want
police
officers
who
have
20
years
experience
in
25
years
and
firefighters
as
well.
You
don't
want
them
switching
every
two
years.
M
M
So
if
you're,
a
taxpayer
and
all
aldermen
are
taxpayers,
these
are
a
part
of
employment,
they're
funded
through
the
tax
levy,
employee
contributions
and
investment
return.
Paying
the
benefits
is
not
something
that
you
get
to
choose
to
do
or
not.
You
have
to
do
them,
and
a
good
policy
in
any
employee
driven
operation
is
to
pay
your
employees.
First
I've
worked
for
the
city
long
enough,
I
saw
the
traffic
studies
and
that
we
had.
We
paid
a
lot
of
money
for
a
gang
study.
M
We
wanted
the
study
to
say
we
didn't
have
a
gang
problem
and
back
in
the
80s,
we
went
to
sleep
and
it
came
up
and
bit
Us
big
time.
So
I'm
aware
that
there
are
multiple
things
that
have
to
be
paid
for
in
city
government,
but
number
one
should
be.
You
pay
your
employees
now,
there's
a
little
bit
of
math
involved
with
this
and
I.
This
was
me
before
I
started
any
of
this
stuff.
M
I
didn't
understand
this
any
better
than
anybody
else
forget
forget
the
equation
out
there
I'll
get
to
that,
but
the
plan
design.
The
important
thing
here
is
that
60
to
70
percent
of
the
benefits
are
supposed
to
be
paid
by
investment
income.
M
Here's
what
that
equation
is
over
on
the
right
side
of
the
equal
sign.
We
got
the
benefits,
we
can
project
those.
We
have
the
expenses
we
can
project
those.
So
the
variables
on
the
left
side
are
the
investment
return
and
the
contributions
the
employees
are
fixed.
They
don't
have
a
choice
of
what
they
put
in
the
employer
or
the
tax
levy.
That's
the
one
that
so
everything
on
the
left
has
to
equal
everything
on
the
right,
but
the
heavy
lifting
is
supposed
to
be
done
by
investment
income.
M
We
had
gotten
off
track
and
in
2007
Julia
Carroll
of
a
city
manager
and
she
had
been
a
finance
director
before
and
I
went
to
Liz
Tisdale,
who
was
my
Alderman,
then
and
Rainey
also
jumped
on
it,
and
we
started
to
get
back
on
track
here.
Is
the
2009
required
payment?
Now
there
should
be
no
red
in
there.
It
should
all
be
blue
and
if
the
thing
was
fully
funded,
you
can
see
for
police.
M
It
would
be
less
than
two
million
dollars,
but
you
can
see
there's
a
big
other
payment,
because
money
wasn't
put
in
and
the
heavy
lifting
is
not
being
done
by
investment
return,
it's
being
done
by
the
taxpayers.
That's
what
hurts
the
following
year.
You
can
see
the
levy
went
up
about
a
million
dollars.
The
percentages
stayed
about
the
same.
Let's
skip
the
2020
percentages
are
pretty
close,
but
the
levees
going
up
and
2021
and
we're
always
a
year
behind
so
we're.
M
M
M
I
will
send
all
of
you
this
presentation
later,
so
you
can
do
whatever.
The
scary
part
is
that
14
million
dollar
part
the
interest
payments,
so
the
taxpayer
takeaway
here
is
that
the
bulk
of
the
investment
returns
will
be
paid
by
the
investment
in
return,
but
that
assumes
proper
contributions,
which
did
not
happen
on
a
regular
basis
and
investment
and
compound
interest
through
the
heavy
lifting
Evanston
and
didn't
go
to
the
legislature.
You
kind
of
redesigned
the
plan
so
that
the
bulk
of
the
benefits
are
paid
by
the
taxpayers.
M
M
M
C
M
In
2006
it
turned
out
that
Windsor,
who
was
afraid
of
a
friend
of
Bill
Stafford,
who
had
never
done
evaluation
in
Illinois
we
found
out
later,
was
not
qualified
to
do
evaluation
in
Illinois.
He
was
doing
it
anyway,
Gabriel
rotor
Smith
in
07
and
Penn,
and
then
after
2013,
you
actually
have
to
show
the
debt
on
your
balance.
M
So
this
is
the
the
last
two
years
of
the
total
unfunded
and
you
can
see
police
went
down
that's
very
unusual,
but
we
had
three
bang-up
years
of
investment
return.
We
won't
see
those
again.
Fire
went
up
a
little.
This
90
funding
I'll
talk
about
in
a
minute.
You
can
see.
We
got
these
numbers,
240
million
and
235
million.
So
under
the
current
statute,
it
has
to
be
funded
90
by
2040..
So
let's
include
the
10,
which
is
not
shown
that
jumps
for
this
year
to
280
million.
M
Now
the
total
bond
in
debt
of
the
city
right
now
is
about
200
million.
That's
it,
but
you've
also
got
this
other
thing
here,
that's
not
a
bond,
but
it
has
to
be
paid.
So
I
guess
the
question:
if
you're
a
taxpayer,
do
you
want
to
pay
down
280
million
by
20
important
or
would
you
prefer
to
pay
500
million,
or
would
you
prefer
to
pay
750
million,
because
these
are
all
possibilities.
M
M
M
Your
unfunded
here
is
132
million,
so
10
percent
of
that
26
million
is
ignored
for
the
next
20
years
that
that
26
million
is
only
good
today,
as
the
fund
gets
bigger,
the
26
million
gets
bigger.
The
interest
gets
bigger
and
you're
paying
interest
on
that
all
the
way
along,
so
you
could
be
paying
as
much
as
87
million
or
100
million
or
more
just.
We
fully
paid
the
whole
the
mortgage,
but
we
still
owe
100
million
dollars.
That's
a
scary
Prospect.
M
This
is
the
entry
age
normal
that
you,
the.
What
the
state
would
like
you
to
do
is
gives
you
lower
payments
in
the
beginning
and
you
get
much
higher
ones
later.
This
happened
back
in
93..
You
see
that
straight
line
see
those
bars
the
straight
line
bars
down
there.
That's
the
old
funding
method.
It
was
supposed
to
be
done
by
10..
M
Red
flag
warnings,
Bob
Seidenberg,
since
1982
I,
think
he
was
10
years
old.
Then
every
time
they
say,
this
burden
remains
large,
despite
annual
contributions
that
exceed
both
the
actuator
there's.
One
in
2017
here
is
one
in
2018..
M
M
M
Why
am
I
showing
you
these?
Thank
you,
the
Securities
Exchange
Commission
sued,
the
state
of
New
Jersey
in
2010
for
a
fraudulent
Municipal
Bond
offerings
in
2013.
They
sued
the
state
of
Illinois
for
the
same
thing,
Time
After,
Time
Illinois
failed
to
inform
its
Bond
investors
about
the
risk
to
the
financial
condition
posed
by
structural
underfunding
of
the
pension
system.
M
M
This
is
something
that
you
probably
don't
want
to
do
and
if
you
have
been
doing
it,
you
want
to
fix
it
in
a
hurry.
Okay.
So
let's
look
at
some
of
the
besides
police
and
fire
pensions.
Imrf
Evanston
was
a
founding
member
in
1939,
and
somebody
had
the
genius
to
require
when
imrf
points
to
you
and
say
that
the
contribution
this
year
is
100
million.
There's
no
argument:
you
do
it
Social
Security
same
deal.
You
don't
quibble
one
dollar
with
those.
Why
do
we
keep
structurally
and
perpetually
underfunding,
police
and
fire
funds?
M
Your
personal
safety
and
well-being
is
constantly
protected
by
229
sworn
professionals.
127
police
officers-
that's
down
from
166
the
end
of
2018
102,
firefighter
paramedics
when
this
building
was
empty.
When
this
building
was
a
ghost
town,
those
229
came
to
work
every
day
and
they
would
show
up
at
your
house
or
wherever
they
were
needed
because
that's
their
job.
M
M
Well
that
first
year
there
was
a
double
whammy
there
was.
There
was
also
a
mortality
change,
so
he
said
this
is
a
double
hit
and
we
said:
okay
yeah.
We
agree
we'll
we'll
go
with
six
and
a
half
that
saves
you
about
a
million
and
a
half
dollars,
but
going
forward.
They
all
said
sure
we'll
go
to
six
and
a
quarter.
Well,
it's
never
happened.
We
play
the
six
and
a
half
percent
game
and
that
now
has
short
changed
police
and
fire
funds
about
eight
to
ten
million
dollars.
M
Since
2017.,
there
may
be
a
plan
to
collect
that
we
had
a
real
Rosy
investment.
The
end
of
2021,
our
investment
gained
for
three
years,
was
just
a
hair
under
70
million
dollars.
If
we
had
been
fully
funded,
it
would
have
been
145
million
dollars.
In
2019
we
had
a
22
investment
return,
but
a
negative
cash
flow
ratio
and
I'll
talk
about
consolidation
in
just
a
minute:
pension
obligation
bonds.
These
are
not
for
the
fate
of
heart
pobs.
But
what
did
these
folk
know
that
we
don't
know?
M
Look
at
this
Quincy
Mass
475
million
pension
obligation,
Bond
Brockton
Mass,
300
million.
These
are
similar
communities,
smaller
ones,
Moline
and
Wheaton
Skokie,
176
million.
So
what
they
were
doing
is
converting
soft
debt
into
hard
debt.
Two
three
years
ago,
you
could
have
borrowed
the
whole,
our
280
million.
You
could
have
borrowed
that
for
two
percent.
M
Unfortunately,
that
train
has
left
the
station
I,
don't
expect
to
see
that
again,
Darren
Doherty
couldn't
be
here
tonight
and
Jack
mortell
will
be
if
you
have
any
questions
from
fire
pension.
One
other
thing
we're
doing
to
try
and
lower
the
burden
on
the
taxpayers.
M
This
was
filed
one
day
before
it
expired.
Evanston
police
pension
fund
versus
the
McKesson
Corporation,
one
of
the
biggest
Pharmaceutical
Distributors.
We
accuse
them
of
Securities
fraud
and
price
fixing.
They
spent
a
lot
of
money
on
getting
this
thrown
out
of
court
a
couple
weeks
ago.
They
have
agreed
to
pay
141
million
dollars
to
the
the
shareholders.
Now,
how
much
we'll
get
to
that
I
don't
know.
M
A
E
Question
Mr
School
master.
Do
you
know
the
last
time
the
city
had
a
finance
and
budget
committee?
If,
if
it
ever
did.
M
I
think
it's
pretty
new
I
think
you
know.
If
you
had
questions
and
stuff,
it
would
go
to
the
the
CFO
and
they
would
they
would
crank
out
whatever
you
ask
for
so
I
I
think
this
is
a
really
good
move,
because
I've
I've
watched
a
couple
of
the
meetings
and-
and
you
get
there's
some
really
smart
people
who
really
know
money
on
that
on
that
committee.
So
I.
E
E
No
interest
in
in
passing
this
along
I
think
we're
prepared
to
do
what's
necessary,
but
I
also
just
wanted
to
use
this
as
an
opportunity
to
plug
the
finance
and
budget
committee,
because
that
was
that
was
created
under
this
Administration
I
asked
Mr
Schoolmaster
because
clearly
he's
been
following
the
council,
since
there
was
double
double
us
up
here,
which
was
was
quite
a
while
ago
and
but
I
think
that
was
a
huge
step
in
the
right
direction.
E
As
you
said
you
you
have
to
send
it,
you
would
send
emails
to
you
know
the
CFO
assistant
CFO,
or
you
know
you
would
try
to
bring
it
up
during
actually
this
committee
meeting
APW,
which
it's
tough
to
get
in
the
weeds
during
this
committee,
because
we're
also
trying
to
pay
bills
and
pay
contractors
and
so
I
think
we
were
very
intentional
about
creating
this.
This.
E
This
new
space,
separate
from
any
other
standing
committee
meetings
and
Council
meetings
to
bring
in
the
experts,
as
you
mentioned,
to
to
to
propose
recommendations
for
this
Council,
one
being
as
I
think
folks
may
have
seen
in
the
in
the
news
to
to
tackle
our
pension
obligation.
This
year
and
the
increase
that
contribution
so.
M
Committee,
it's
my
understanding
that
they
recommended
the
six
and
a
quarter
of
Actuarial
and
full
funding,
not
the
90
but
the
full
funding
and
there's
money
somewhere
around
there.
It's
not
my
job
to
find
the
money,
but
because
you
know,
there's
money
floating
around.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
comment.
A
C
Yes,
if
I
call
for
their
order
of
the
day,
I
move
the
consent
agenda
of
the
consent.
Calendar.
A
A
Thank
you.
I
just
had
a
question
just
if
someone
could
respond
regarding
the
question
that
was
brought
up
about
electric
trucks
and
when
those
would
be
phased
in
to
respond
to
the
public
comments.
O
Good
evening
Madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
Sean
cholak
facilities
and
Fleet
Management
in
regards
to
electric
trucks.
So
there
are
some
options
that
we
have
been
exploring,
but
we
haven't
found
anything
that
that
is
fitting.
Yet
for
this
purpose,
we
are
currently
underway
with
the
electrification
and
right
sizing
study,
and
we
are
hoping
that
that's
going
to
inform
us
on
how
to
move
forward
and
plan
out
for
when,
when
these
will
be
proven
and
ideal
for
Reliable
operations
and
what
kind
of
Manufacturers
we
can
look
to
for
for
those.
O
But
right
now
this
is.
This
is
kind
of
what
we're
finding
is
that
there's
there's
nothing
that's
suitable
for
it.
At
this
point.
O
I
really
can't
give
a
time
frame
right
now,
even
with
this,
this
I
know
we
keep
hearing
this
supply
chain
issues.
O
O
So
it's
really
hard
to
pinpoint
now
right
now
exactly
when,
when
these
will
be
ready
for
us.
O
D
O
Sure
sure
so
you
had
asked
about.
Let
me
just
refer
to
my
notes.
Here.
You
had
asked
a
question
about
biodiesel
for
for
vehicles
in
the
fleet,
so
we
we
currently
have
biodiesel
but
we're
starting
to
go
through
the
past
process
of
phasing
those
out
for
several
reasons.
O
One
of
those
is
that
it's
what
they're
finding
is
that
it's
less
stable
and
deteriorates
over
time,
so
it
doesn't
really
last
long
it
could,
you
know,
start
to
deteriorate.
You
know
in
in
the
shipments
that
we're
getting.
It
could
start
to
deteriorate
in
our
tanks
because
we're
not
utilizing
it
as
much,
but
that
that's
what
they're
finding
out
there
in
our
research.
O
We
also
have
issues
with
it
kind
of
gelling
up
in
the
low
temperatures.
We
have
additives
that
we
put
into
the
diesel
fuel,
but
apparently
we
can't
put
them
into
the
biodiesel
and
then
the
the
thing
that
we're
most
concerned
about
is
we're
finding
evidence
in
our
engines
that
it's
causing
them
to
prematurely
corrode
a
little
bit
and
that
it's
gumming
them
up
and
so
we're
looking
to
steer
completely
away
from
it.
And
you
know,
look
into
other
renewable
options.
O
A
N
A
Any
opposed
all
right
item
A3
unanimously
passes,
moving
to
item
A7.
A
E7,
moved
by
council,
member
Burns
and
second
and
by
councilmember
Reed
I
guess
I
would
just
like
a
little
more
of
an
understanding.
A
You
know
I
feel
like
we
do
need
coordination
overall
for
our
safety
Outreach
and
our
social
safety
Network,
so
I
think
council,
member
Burns.
This
is
your
I
think.
Is
this
your
referral.
E
Yeah
so
similar
to
finance
and
budget
committee,
we
created
the
reimagining
and
Public
Safety
Committee
Mr,
fasilko
I
would
invite
you
out
to
one
of
our
committee
meetings
so
that
you
can
more
closely
understand
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
for
the
past
several
months
without
going
into
the
weeds,
because
this
is
really
simple.
I've
said
this
over
and
over
again
so
apologize
for
being
redundant.
But
there
are
things
that
the
city
has
said.
We
want
to
accomplish
some
really
big,
big
accomplishments
that
we
want
to
undertake.
E
You
know
pensions
is
one,
but
we
have
other
others
as
well.
One
of
them
is
is
cart.
We
talk
about
a
lot,
a
lot
about
climate
action
and
our
climate
action
and
resiliency
plan
and
moving
towards
our
plan
to
implementation.
We
talk
a
lot
about
housing.
We
also
talk
about
rematching,
our
public,
our
approach
to
achieving
Public
Safety.
E
What
I've,
seen
in
my
short
time
here
as
as
an
elected
official,
is
that
on
these
really
big
projects,
we
typically
assign
little
to
no
staff
support
to
advance
the
work,
and
this
wouldn't
be-
you
know,
tolerated
in
any
other
organization,
but
but
I've
found
that
some
for
some
reason
in
government
there's
a
sense
that
you
can
do
everything
through
merely
in
through
a
volunteer
effort
and
through
the
support
of
a
staff
that,
in
my
opinion,
is
already
some
of
our
staff
are
doing
the
job
of
two
or
three
people
as
it
stands
right
as
we
continue
to
have
issues
with
covering
vacant
positions
and
so
to
me,
this
is
without
even
getting
to
the
weeds.
E
It's
just
literally
assigning
the
appropriate
staff
to
advance
work
that
we
say
is
important
to
us
that
we
care
about,
and
so
this
is
what
started
off
as
a
working
with
a
organization
called
fuse
has
now
gone
to
an
an
hourly
contracted
employee
that
will
work
about
20
hours
a
week
and
we
would
use
them
as
needed
to
support
the
work
of
our
reimagining
Public
Safety
Committee,
and
that
is
what
is
before
us
this
evening.
E
C
No,
actually,
it
was
Matthew
Oren,
who
is
the
staff
for
the
overall
committee,
but
he's
no
longer
and
Analysis
involved.
P
Too,
certainly
but
Matthew.
C
B
There's
a
hope
to
hire
one
in
23.
okay,
but
there
is
not
now
and
that's
in
the
but
Allison
has
attended
several
of
these
meetings
as
well.
E
Was
literally
scheduling,
meetings
and
I
mean
that
was
really
it
and
not
to
say
he
couldn't
do
more,
but
he
had
other
assignments
throughout
the
organization.
D
E
Do
it
right
we're
really
doing
the
back
end?
The
admin
you
know
support,
and
so
it's
again
the
scope
of
work
is
included,
but
but
there's
a
lot
of
research.
That's
needed
organized
in
the
meetings
taking
minutes,
you
know
helping
the
chairs
and
whatever
they.
You
know.
We
have
three
working
groups.
We
have
the
reimagining
Public
Safety
Committee,
but
also
three
working
groups
that
have
their
own
tasks
in
in
in
in
workload
and
so
I
think
one
of
the
primary
things
they
can
do
at
least
initially
is
to
develop.
A
Any
other
discussion:
okay,
if
there
are
any
other
comments,
all
in
favor
of
items,
A7
aye
aye,
any
opposed.
Okay,
A7
passes
moving
to
item
A9,
someone
like.
A
A
A
It's
still
very
in
terms
of
what
their
their
charges,
what
the
public
wants.
It's
all
still
being
developed,
so
I'm
not
clear
why
we
now
need
to
allocate
yet
more
funding
when
we're
still
developing
figuring
out
what
the
resident's
interests
are
and
where
we
want
to
go
with
what
they've
already
with
the
work
they've
done,
and
the
data
that
they've
collected
this.
Q
Is
related
to
the
dog,
beach
and
reopening
the
dog
beach.
So
at
the
time
that
we
talked
about
reopening
the
dog
beach
and
director
Stone
I'm,
sorry,
the
deputy
manager
stoneback
gave
a
presentation
about
what
would
be
required.
The
direction
that
staff
received
to
my
understanding
was
to
reopen
the
dog
beach
promptly
for
a
few
weeks
prior
to
the
end
of
the
season
and
by
next
year,
work
towards
doing
the
things
that
would
make
us
legally
compliant
with
both
Cook
County
health
code
requirements
and
American
with
Disabilities
Act.
Q
A
Thank
you,
so
I
do
want
to
take
a
moment
to
say
how
absolutely
wonderful,
I'm
the
dog
beach
has
been.
It's
been
a
huge
uplifting
part
of
the
year,
for
so
many
residents
and
people
come
from
outside
of
Evanston
too
so
kudos
to
staff
for
getting
that
up
and
running
and
actually
building
a
beautiful
ramp
and
a
gate.
So
I
guess.
My
question
is
that
we,
you
know
we're
building
an
ADA,
ramp
and
I
understand
that
we
don't
have
Engineers
here
who
can
design
an
ADA
ramp
right?
We.
Q
A
So
I
guess
I'm
just
concerned
about
paying
some
like,
instead
of
just
paying
directly
somebody
to
build
a
ram
while
we're
hiring
first
paying
a
consultant
to
consult
to
to
advise
us
on
how
to
then
hire
someone
to
build
a
ram.
I
think
we
need
to
build
a
ramp,
an
ADA
ramp,
I'm,
just
concerned
that
we're
spending
more
than
we
really
need
to
then.
In
fact,
we
should
just
simply
be
paying
someone
to
build
a
ramp.
It
looks
to
me
like
this
is
Consulting
on
building
a
ramp
on
an
ADA
ramp,
I.
Q
It
is
the
data
collection
which
has
to
do
with
Geotech
and
various
other
issues,
and
it
is
conceptual
designed
to
determine
where
the
ramp
would
be
and
exactly
what
it
would
cost
and
certain
elements
of
the
ramp.
This
does
not
include,
does
the
contract
documents
or
the
bidding
services
or
the
construction
oversight
that
cost
has
been
provided
to
the
city.
The
total
cost
for
all
the
things,
including
what
is
being
proposed
tonight,
would
be
a
hundred
and
nine
thousand
dollars
approximately,
but
that's
just
the
Consulting
Services.
A
Thank
you,
I
guess.
My
question
is
also
with
the
firms
that
would
bid.
Would
they
not
also
provide
a
scope
of
our
plan
with
an
ADA
ramp
I.
Q
The
bath
image,
bathymetric
survey
the
topographic
survey
and
they
have
Coastal
engineers
and
Structural
Engineers
so
that
they
would
be
qualified
to
do
this.
We
were
also
directed
as
staff
to
try
to
move
promptly.
Along
with
this.
If
we
were
to
hire
somebody
separately,
we
would
need
to
go
out
for
RFP,
which
would
take
us
three
months
prior
to
actually
starting
any
planning
or
conceptual
design
and.
D
Q
Could
probably
I
mean
we
could
use
some
of
the
data.
Q
From
the
training
that
we
have
been
provided
with
our
consultant,
who
did
the
Ada
transition
plan,
which
is
a
legally
required
document?
There
is
a
federal
law,
the
American
with
disability
acts
which
requires
all
municipalities
to
provide
all
services
to
people
with
disabilities
in
an
equitable
fashion
to
people
without
disabilities.
And
so,
if
we
choose
to
go
forward
without
doing
this
and
without
having
a
plan
for
doing
it,
then
we
would
open
ourselves
up
to
liability.
A
Q
A
Q
They
were
contracted
to
provide
Shoreline
protection,
but
what
that
looks
like
a
little
bit
has
to
do
I
think
with
what
people
want
to
be
able
to
use
the
shoreline
for,
and
so
that
is
part
of
why
they
are
asking
the
bigger
question,
which
is
what
do
you
want?
The
long-term
use
to
be
because
that
would
inform
what
the
options
for
Shoreline
protection
are.
R
I
Sarah
flax,
interim
community
development
director,
currently
all
of
our
residential
plan
reviews
are
done
by
safe,
build
safe,
build,
has
a
local
office.
They
are
not
flying
in
from
out
of
town
Gerald
Keys
is
our
regular
plan
reviewer
and
has
worked
very
closely
with
the
city
since
we
started
using
them
in
2013
as
backup.
Currently
we
do
not
have
a
residential
plan
reviewer
on
staff.
So
if
we
do
not
increase
our
contract,
we
don't
have
any
residential
plan
reviews
which
I,
don't
think
is
very
something
we
can
accept.
R
R
We
have
estimated
that
staff
person
at
about
107
thousand
dollars
for
salary
and
benefits,
and
we
think
that
will
give
us
a
better
ability
to
respond
to
questions
and
changes
that
we
always
have,
especially
because
a
lot
of
our
residential
work
is
in.
You
know
it's
it's
additions.
It's
things,
it's
it's
you're
working
with
something
that's
already
built,
and
there
can
be
a
lot
of
questions
on
how.
How
do
you
make
things
compliant?
R
We
would
still,
we
still
have
proposed
in
that
budget.
A
fifty
thousand
dollar
safe,
build
contract
because
safe
built
not
only
does
residential
plan
review
and
would
do
help
if
there
was
a
high
demand
at
any
given
point.
They
also
are
back
up
for
our
Building
Inspections.
We
currently
have
one
building
inspector
for
each
type
of
inspections,
and
so,
if
any
of
them
are
out
on
vacation
ill
or
anything
like
that,
it
gives
us
the
ability
to
respond.
A
So
I
know
sometimes
they've
reviewed
permits.
I've
had
the
experience
where
they've
made,
you
know
mistakes
and
it
wasn't
their
fault.
It
was
because
they
aren't
on
site.
They
said
that
they
were
several
hours
away.
So,
for
example,
when
somebody
said
they
were
replacing
something
that
was
already
existent,
they
approved
it
just
based
on
our
code,
and
then
it
turned
out
that
in
fact
it
was
an
accurate
information
and
because
they're
so
far
away,
they
said
you
know
they
don't
go
on
site
to
review,
to
see
if
something
was
already
existing.
A
So
I
do
feel
like.
There
is
a
little
bit
of
an
issue
with
that.
They
aren't.
You
know,
Gerald
I,
don't
know
how
often
he's
here.
I
think
I
spoke
directly
with
Gerald,
but
that's
happened
at
least
twice
since
I've
been
on
where
there
have
been
issues
of
permits
being
approved.
R
As
far
as
a
relative
term,
they
have
a
local
office.
It
is
not
in
Loveland
Colorado,
so,
which
is
what
I'm
saying
so
I,
don't
know
those
circumstances,
but
there
can
be
situations
where
plans
are
not
complete
and
or
they
have
inaccuracies
and
our
residential
plan.
Reviewer
didn't
normally
go
out
to
look
on
site
either,
but
could
in
a
case
like
that,
if
something
came
up.
A
I
guess
one
of
the
issues
I
have
too
is
that
we
don't
really
have
a
good,
currently
and
I
know
we're
working
on
this
trying
to
get
better
data
to
really
understand
the
need
for
safe
built,
and
that
would
be
helpful
going
forward
when
we
approve
these
third-party
contracts
to
support
and
bolster
our
our
program.
Our
department
at
the
city,
to
really
be
able
to
see
from
year
to
year
the
difference
in
why
we
would
need
to
increase
this.
D
A
Okay,
we
now
move
to.
Oh
now,
let's
see
we
move
to,
we
already
passed
the
consent
agenda.
Minus
those
items
we
move
to
items
for
consideration,
item
a11.
E
A
Okay
item
eleven's
been
moved
by
council
member
Burns
and
seconded
by
councilmember
Harris
I
I
think.
Is
there
an
amendment
on
that
from
council
member
Harris.
A
A
Mr
stormbeck:
do
you
have
that?
Do
you
need
that
submitted
I?
Think
councilmember
Harris
doesn't
have
a
computer
tonight
to
send
that
in
so
it
would
remain
as
it
stands,
with
fifteen
thousand
at
200,
but
at
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
or
less
the
burden
would
be
at
five
thousand
dollars
correct.
E
A
E
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
so
we've
this
has
now
come
back,
I,
don't
know
maybe
three
or
four
times
and
so
I
realized
where
I
was
confused,
so
I.
My
thought
initially
was.
That
was
that
this
included
the
portion
of
the
sewer
line
that
in
a
water
line,
since
you
know
the
a
private
owner
will
be
responsible
for
which
is
covered
by
Insurance
up
to
ten
thousand
dollars
and
I've
looked
into
it
called
a
bunch
of
different
insurance
companies.
E
I
realized
now
that
we're
we've
been
talking
about
the
part
of
the
sewer
line
between
the
property
line,
I
guess
you'll,
say
and
the
water
main
or
is
it?
What
is
it?
Is
it
the
water
ring?
Sorry,
not
the
water
man,
the
sewer,
yeah
I
was
gonna
say
it
can't
be
that
so
what
is
it
called?
E
The
sure
man
so
in
in
in
waterline
charge,
is
very
simple.
It's
like
this.
This
is
this
person.
This
is
the
water
line
that
the
private
owner
is
responsible
for
between
the
the
the
the
the
the
house
and
the
the
Buffalo.
What
is
it
called
the
the
bee
box,
the
Buffalo
box
and
then
the
water
line
from
from
that?
That's
typically
in
the
Parkway
in
the
water
main,
is
responsible
to
City
very
simple.
To
me.
E
This
should
be
that
simple
I
didn't
realize
that
that's
what
we
were
talking
about,
I,
don't
I'm,
actually
not
sure
why
the
city
has
not
covered
between
and
I
know
it's
it's
typical
that
cities
don't
do
this,
but
I
don't
see
why
we
haven't
a
while
ago
decided
that
we
were
going
to
cover
it
from
the
property
line
to
the
to
the
to
the
Sewer,
whatever
sewer
sewer
Main.
E
In
the
same
way,
we
do
for
the
water
line
like
I
I,
actually,
don't
understand
why
we
don't
do
that
so
I'm
actually
comfortable,
definitely
comfortable
with
these
amendments,
because
we're
not
saying
that
we're
going
to
cover
100
of
the
cost,
but
a
certain
you,
a
portion
of
it
over
a
certain
amount.
What
I
do
want
to
make
clear
is
that,
in
the
same
way
that
we've
budgeted
for
the
part
of
the
water
service
line
right
that
we
know
is
our
responsibility.
E
We
need
to
do
the
same
for
sewer
line
which
in
talking
to
to
Dave
about
this,
he
said
that,
if
that,
if
we,
you
know
that,
if
we
can't
find
this
in
any
other
budget,
we'll
have
to
go
into
our
sewer
reserves
which,
year
over
year,
we
want
to
keep
that
at
about
two
and
a
half.
Just
in
case.
E
You
know
we
have
any
issues
and
we
don't
really
want
to
go
under
that
and
and
if
we
do
we're
going
to
have
to
increase
our
sewer
rates,
so
I
just
want
the
general
public
to
know
that
that
if
we
do
go
over
that
amount,
that
will
like
they'll
likely
be
a
time
where
we
need
to
adjust
our
sewer
rates,
which
I'm
completely
fine
with
because
again
I
think
it
makes
sense
moving
forward
to
just
communicate
to
Residents
in
whatever
way
we
want
to
do
it
that,
in
the
same
way,
we're
responsible
for
the
water
service
line
from
here
to
here
we're
now
responsible
for
the
sewer
line
between
here
and
here.
E
E
Involved
with
sewer
lines
because
they're
not
as
well
maintained
as
water
lines
are
and
that
that
you
know
that
there
are
likely
many
that
will
fail
and
fail
soon
and
fell,
often
at
some
point
but
again,
I
think
as
long
as
the
city
understands
the
the
the
the
potential
costs
and
we're
willing
to
to
meet
that
cost,
whether
it's
through
our
reserves,
our
cereal
reserves
or
increasing
rates,
then
I'm
for
it.
C
I
really
appreciate
what
council
member
burns
are
there
just
do
on?
One
thing
want
to
note,
so
there
isn't
a
panic
that
you
know:
sewer
rates
are
going
to
raise
I.
Think
staff
is
estimated,
at
least
for
the
last
I
forget
Dave.
Is
it
a
decade
or
maybe
half
a
decade
that
there's
been
about
one
of
these
failures
on
average
per
year,
and
so
we're
talking
about
something?
A
Great
thank
you
councilmember
Reed,
okay,
all
in
favor
of
item.
If
there
are
any
further
discussion.
D
A
Oh
right
to
amend
so
that
we're
adding
that
for
those
under
100
who
make
a
hundred
thousand
or
less
the
obligation
would
be
to
pay
the
first
five
thousand
two
hundred
less
it's
the
first
15
we
did
and
okay
is
there.
There
was
a
second
all
in
favor
of
the
amended
motion.
D
A
Amendment
I'm
sorry
of
the
amendment.
Yes,
okay,
the
amendment
passed.
We
now
move
to
vote
on
the
motion.
I'm,
sorry
on
the
resolution
a11
as.
C
M
A
So
for
in
favor
and.
A
Memory:
okay,
the
eyes
have
it
so
councilman
item
11
is
recommended
to
Council
on
voted
four
to
one.
Okay,.
E
D
S
It's
okay,
I
mean
just
reading
this
I've
just
wasn't
sure
why,
if
any
Evanston
agencies
came
up,
seeing
that
this
wasn't
in
our
area
to
feed
our
seniors,
so
I
just
had
a
question
about
that.
B
I'm
not
sure
if
Audrey
Thompson
is
available
or
not,
she
was
going
to
be
on
soon,
hopefully,
and
if
not
I
can
get
your
response
by
the
city
council
meeting.
C
P
C
I
think
it
would
make
sense
to
I
I
wonder
if
there's
the
opportunity
to
look
into
Meals
on
Wheels
or
staff
already
has
if
Audrey
or
someone
is
available.
B
A
C
A
B
So
it's
defeated,
then
it's
treated
to.
C
D
A
Vote
on
the
motion
to
reconsider
all
in
favor
to
reconsider
all.
C
Right
and
then
I
I
moved
to
table
or
to
hold
to
table
this
until
our
next
meeting
and
I,
just
like
for
the
director
to
look
into
whether
a
local
agency
is
an
option,
whether
it
be
Meals
on
Wheels
or
anything
else
in
the
city.
And
if,
if
possible,
I'd
like
to
go
with
that,
so
I
moved
to
table
list
to
the
next
meeting.
D
T
Good
evening,
members
of
the
administrative
Administration
Public
Works
committee,
Corporation
Council
Nicholas
Cummings,
just
wanted
to
give
you
guys
information.
This
is
a
renewal
of
this
contract,
so
this
is
an
agency
that
we've
been
using
for
quite
some
time.
I,
don't
know
that
it
if
it
would
if
it
would
need
to
go
out
to
bid,
but
for
this
program,
which
would
start
I
want
to
say
the
contract
terminated
October
31st,
and
this
is
a
new
one.
So
it's
a
renewal.
This
is
my
understanding.
E
I
was
not
able
to
look
at
this
one,
but
do
we
know
what,
when
this,
when
does
the
service
itself
end
like
when
to
because
the
councilman
repairs?
The
earlier
points
you
made
I
do
want
to
make
sure
feeding
the
seniors.
So
how?
If
we
hold
this
today,
will
it
impact
I
mean?
What
would
it
impact
again.
B
E
S
N
S
C
Chair
just
I
I
would
like
to
add
that
I
also
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
bring
this
to
the
council
before
the
contract
is
already
expired
and
we're
several
months
down
the
line.
So
we
have
that
time
so
yeah
thank.
P
Audrey
Thompson
director,
Parks
and
Rec,
so
this
is
the
third
renewal
for
the
contract.
So
please
know
that
when
the
contract
goes
out
for
bid
the
next
year,
then
Meals
on
Wheels
or
anyone
else,
local
will
have
the
opportunity
to
bid
for
that
contract.
S
C
A
S
S
C
C
Presuming
that
we
don't
have
discussion
on
these
items
so
I'd
like
to
move
item
a17,
a18
and
a19
concurrently.
K
D
I
think
we
need
a
second.
Did
you
get
a
second
I
thought
we
got
one
yeah
council
member
herself,
a
second
yeah
I'm
in
favor
of
these
I,
just
want
to
point
out
that
the
annual
savings
to
a
single
family
home
by
switching
from
a
95
gallon
waist
cart
to
a
65
gallon
waste
cart
is
155
dollars
and
87
Cents.
By
doing
the
right
thing,
using
a
little
bit
less
stuff
yeah,
you
can
save
more
than
150
a
year.
C
Yeah
I
I
think
we
need
to
have
I
appreciate,
councilmanusma's
point
there.
I
do
think
we
need
to
have
a
real
discussion
about
trash
collection.
Soon.
I'm
sorry
make
sure
we're
talking
about
the
right
waste
carts.
C
Right,
okay,
yes
and
so
I
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
conversation
about
trash
delivery.
I
think
you
know
there
could
be
great
cost
savings
to
the
city
to
Residents
if
we
explored
the
idea
and-
and
you
know,
particularly
in
my
ward
and
I-
think
likely
all
over
the
city-
we're
likely
getting
a
lot
of
complaints
about
about
rats
and
other
Vector.
C
And
you
know
you
look
at
some
countries
like
Norway,
where,
instead
of
having
a
cart
behind
every
single
house
or
a
bin
behind
every
single
house,
folks
go
to
centralized
locations
to
deposit
their
trash
and
I
mean
you
brought
the
trash
into
your
house
one
way
or
another.
You
brought
it
in
when
you
went
shopping
and
I
think
the
idea
that
we
would
send
a
city
worker
to
every
single
house
to
personally
pick
up
your
trash
for
you
and
haul
it
off
to
a
centralized
location.
C
I
think
we
need
to
really
rethink
that
model
and
I
know
we're
just
talking
about
the
the
cost
of
bins
here.
But
you.
C
A
number
of
reasons
you
know
there
are
even
some
studies
about
the
health
impacts
of
having
to
maybe
walk
a
block
or
two
to
end.
The
social
impacts
of
you
know,
meeting
at
potentially
a
centralized
location
to
throw
your
trash.
You
get
to
know
your
neighbors
better,
a
little
bit.
I
think
we
need
to
think
big
and
bold
and.
C
We're
not
there
on
this
vote,
but
but
I
do
think.
We
need
to
start
thinking
about
that
and
and
the
cost
savings
that
we
could
provide
Evanston
residents
and
the
efficiencies
that
we
could
provide
for
the
city
government.
If
we,
if
we
rethought
the
way,
we
do
trash
collection.
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
Reed,
so
we're
moving
all
in
favor
of
items,
a
17,
I'm,
sorry,
Ace,
16,
a
17,
a
18
and
a
19.
D
D
Madam,
chair
I'll,
move
item
D1
for
discussion.
This
is
resolution:
119
R22
authorizing
the
city
staff
to
issue
a
memo
to
the
police
department,
the
traffic
enforcement
division
with
a
notification
regarding
incoming
delivery,
trucks
to
Evanston
Lumber.
Second,.
D
And
for
some
context
on
this,
I
think
the
first
time
this
issue
came
before
this
committee
was
several
months
ago.
D
We
might
be
getting
into
double
digit
months
ago
and,
as
the
representatives
from
Evanston
Lumber
pointed
out,
the
the
problem
is
that
the
intersection
at
Main,
Street
and
Custer
is
very
difficult
for
the
large
semi
trucks
to
maneuver.
This
is
doesn't
really
have
an
impact
on
Evans
and
Lumber's
business.
D
The
potential
impact
is
on
citizens
of
Evanston,
whether
they're
in
cars,
whether
they
are
pedestrians,
also
the
taxpayers
of
Evanston,
in
that
there
has
been
over
the
course
of
time,
regular
property
damage
to
signs
getting
knocked
over
at
that
corner.
The
Union
Pacific
railroad
abutment
has
deteriorated
because
trucks
have
run
into
it
and
there
exists
quite
a
a
serious
and
significant
safety
risk
at
that
intersection.
Due
to
the
due
to
this
situation,
there
is
not
a
an
optimal
solution
here.
D
We
have
discussed
with
City
staff
over
the
course
of
time
a
number
of
potential
Solutions
when
it
was
first
brought
to
this
committee.
Several
months
ago
we
were
talking
about
changing
a
truck
route.
We
have
decided-
or
it's
been
discussed
and
kind
of
concluded,
that
changing
a
truck
route
is
not
the
best
option,
because
that
would
open
up
open
or
possibly
highway
to
any
number
of
trucks.
When
really
it's
just
the
trucks
going
to
Evanston
Lumber.
That
are
the
issue
here.
D
So
we
have
looked
at
the
possibility
of
having
trucks,
come
down
Howard
and
turned
North
on
Custer
there,
that's
honestly,
probably
a
little
bit
better
than
going
going
east
on
on
Main
Street
and
making
the
turn
on
Custer,
but
the
Custer
and
Howard
intersection
is
also
difficult
to
navigate.
If
you
look
at
the
map,
it's
also
an
acute
angle,
which
means
this
is
a
right
angle
for
our.
You
know:
sophomore
geometry
review.
D
This
is
an
acute
angle
which
makes
it
harder
to
turn
so
Howard
Street
isn't
a
great
option,
and
even
if
that
intersection
were
good,
we'd
be
coming
up
a
longer
structure
of
of
Custer,
which
is
a
residential
street.
D
So
no
one
here
is
suggesting
that
the
option
on
the
table
to
bring
trucks
down,
Oakton
and
and
have
them
turn
north
on
Custer
is
a
great
idea,
because
there
are
two
schools
on
on
Oakton
that
we
have
two
schools
on
on
Main
Street
as
well,
so
that
you
know
the
school
issues
is
potentially
a
wash
here.
D
Oakton
isn't
isn't
a
great
solution.
I
will
readily
concede
that,
but
it's
not
as
bad
of
an
idea
as
having
trucks
coming
down
Main
Street
and
turn
it
on
to
Oakton.
So
this
is
something
that
councilmember
Harry,
cottas
and
I
have
discussed
very
cordially
and
respectfully,
and
he
looking
out
for
the
benefits
of
his
constituents
I
looking
out
for
the
benefit
of
my
constituents
and
we
were
unable
to
come
to
a
resolution.
Just
the
two
of
us.
D
We
asked
mayor
biss
to
moderate
and
see
if
we
could
come
to
an
agreement
with
with
mayor
biss
kind
of
facilitating
and
moderating
the
discussion,
no
avail
there,
and
we
realized
that
the
only
way
to
kind
of
get
through
this
issue
would
be
to
bring
it
to
the
council
for
a
vote.
Even
though
I
will
point
out-
and
maybe
I
should
have
started
with
this-
we
don't
have
to
vote
here.
D
What
we
are
proposing
is
taking
advantage
of
existing
city
code,
which
allows
trucks
to
deviate
from
published
truck
routes
for
a
number
of
of
reasons,
one
of
which
is,
if
there's
a
safety
risk
which
clearly
exists
in
this
case,
so
we
don't
actually
have
to
vote.
This
is
current
policy.
The
policy
we're
not
changing
policy,
but
staff
doesn't
want
to
make
that
recommendation
to
the
police
department.
You
know
give
them
the
heads
up
that
this
is
going
to
change
without
Council
support.
I,
think
staff
is
doing
the
right
thing
in
this.
D
In
this
case,
staff
doesn't
want
to
get
caught
between
council
member
myself,
so
I
guess
we're
bringing
it
to
the
council
to
decide
that
you
know
try
and
split
the
baby
here
and
do
what's
do
what's
right,
since
we
can't
figure
it
out
ourselves.
D
And
I
do
have
a
video
Anderson
if
you
that
first
one
on
sometimes
trucks
turned
South
on
Custer
and
back
in
yeah.
There
we
go
and
we
could
probably
skip
to
about
30
seconds
in
to
where
it
gets
good.
D
Maybe
this
is
a
different
video,
but
it
doesn't
sometimes
trucks
attempt
to
make
the
turn
there
and
end
up
running
over
the
stop
sign,
which
is
right
next
to
the
Post
Office
right
there.
This
view
is
from
is
from
no
La
principal
the
taco
restaurant
across
the
street
from
the
post
office.
That
blue
awning
is
the
post
office
there,
some
of
the
other
videos
we
don't
have
to
watch
them
all,
will
show
that
go
down
one
good
there
right
there
yeah.
D
And
this
will
show
you-
and
you
can
skip
to
about
30
seconds
in
on
this
one
too.
That
truck
decides
not
to
try
and
attempt
the
left-hand
turn,
but
instead
turns
right,
which
is
an
easier
turn
kind
of
Southbound
on
on
Custer
and
then
backs
in
to
Evanston
Lumber
blindly
through
the
intersection
at
Main,
Street
yeah.
And
so
this
is,
you
know.
D
The
health
and
safety
risk
that
I'm
most
concerned
about
at
some
damage
to
property,
a
an
automobile
accident
or
a
pedestrian,
not
knowing
what's
going
on
in
the
truck
backing
through
blindly
somebody's
going
to
get
hurt
here
and
that's
the
the
safety
concern.
That's
driving
this
discussion.
C
Yeah
I
appreciate
Jonathan's
explanation
here
and
advocacy
I
it
also
when
this
was
originally
going
to
run
through
the
eighth
Ward.
C
You
know
using
Custer
as
a
truck
route
residents
are
really
concerned
about
that,
because
Custer
is
a
completely
residential
street
for
that
stretch
from
Howard
to
at
least
Oakton,
and
then
almost
all
the
way
down
to
Main,
Street
and
so
I
was
opposed
to
having
this
run
through
the
eighth
Ward
I
mean
it's
still
essentially
going
down
Oakton
running
through
the
eighth
Ward,
because
it's
right
on
the
you
know
it
Oakton
is
the
border
of
the
eighth
and
Ninth
Ward.
C
So
it's
not
like
the
exhausts
aren't
spewing
over
and
that's
really
my
main
concern.
The
south
end
of
town,
particularly
the
eighth
Ward,
has
the
lowest
air
quality
in
our
city,
and
you
know,
I'm
concerned
about
adding
extra
exhaust
I
think
this
solution
is
a
bit
better
because
it
doesn't
open
up
the
the
end.
You
know
it
doesn't
open
up
the
gates
to
allowing
trucks
to
come
down
Howard
and
use
Oakton
as
a
main
thoroughfare,
I.
C
I'm
a
little
confused
why
staff
would
feel
like
they're
in
you
know
like
they
might
be
coming
between.
You
know,
council
members,
because
right
now,
the
law
as
it
is
allows
for
Evanston
Lumber
and
their
the
delivery
drivers
to
use
Oakton
already,
so
it
it.
C
D
We're
talking
about
a
section
10-1-9-2,
which
is
commercial
vehicles
of
excessive
weight,
prohibited
on
certain
streets,
section
A,
no
motor
vehicle
having
a
total
gross
weight,
but
I
shall
travel
on
a
and
operate
on
any
City
street,
except
as
further
provided
for
in
this
ordinance
and
then
paragraph
three
operational
constraints.
Vehicles
may
use
the
non-truck
routes
when
physical
characteristics
of
the
Street,
intersection
or
Viaduct
cause
operational
or
safety
problems
to
reach
the
Final
Destination,
which
is
clearly
the
case
here.
C
Yeah,
and
so
in
this
case,
I
I
I,
don't
I,
don't
I'm
not
excited
to
move
this
forward,
giving
Council
authorization
I.
You
know
I
agree
with
councilman
Harry
Goddess.
That
I
think
you
know
we
don't
want
this
coming
through
our
side
of
town.
C
So
I,
you
know
I
I,
wonder
if
we
should
just
really
I,
don't
I,
don't
support
this
moving
forward
to
council
I.
Think
you
know,
staff
should
just
enforce
the
law
as
it
is
in
our
Police.
Department
I
think
is
fully
equipped
to
interpret
the
law
and
understand
the
law
and
enforce
the
law
appropriately
and
so
I.
Think.
If
we're,
if
we
have
a
clear
understanding,
that's
that's
where
we
should
be
I
I.
Lastly,
foreign.
A
U
You
so
I've
talked
with
this
with
Jonathan
about
this.
A
lot
I
just
wanted
to
share
some
my
my
side
of
the
argument,
so
to
speak,
so
I
I
sent
you
all
some
traffic
numbers
that
I've
received
from
our
Traffic
Engineers
here
at
the
city
next
summer.
The
city
is,
is
undergoing
a
Oakton
traffic
calming
project,
because
Oakton
is
already
extremely
congested
and
has
a
lot
of
pedestrian
safety
issues
with
crosswalks
at
the
public
transit
stops
on
Oakton
as
well
as
James
Park.
U
If
you've
ever
been
there
on
a
weekend
when
soccer
or
baseball
is
happening,
it's
very
congested
and
then
there's
also
three
schools.
So
you
have
Daws
Chute
and
Oakton,
which
all
drop
off
at
Oakton
and
if
you
can
imagine
having
some
of
those
semis
coming
down
during
the
mornings
there,
so
rough
numbers
here
and
I've
all
sent
this
all
to
you
so
from
Dodge
to
ads
to
Home
Depot,
it's
19
000
vehicles
from
Dodge
to
Asbury,
14,
00
Asbury
to
Chicago
12
700,
and
this
is
for
Oakton.
U
Then
the
main
traffic
West
City
Limits
to
dodge
16,
500
Dodge
to
Ridge,
13,
500
and
ridge
to
Chicago
is
nine
thousand.
So
if
there's
considerably
a
lot
more
traffic
and
then
there's
also
just
I,
think
the
a
lot
of
the
the
residents
and
especially
in
the
ninth,
the
West
part
of
the
ninth
ward,
just
feel
like
they've
had
the
burden
of
all
you
know.
U
C
Ahead,
yeah
I
want
to
give
councilman
a
chance,
but
I
want
to
wrap
up.
So
what
I
really
think
you
know
I
see
the
owners
are
here
and
so
I
appreciate
your
involvement.
I
think
we
actually
had
an
opportunity
to
meet
at
some
point
virtually
with
councilmember
nusma
or
someone
from
your
team
to
discuss
this
I.
C
You
know
again,
I'm
fine
with
the
laws
is
and
I
think
that,
maybe
you
know
I'd
support
I'd
be
a
co-sponsor
councilman.
If
you
know,
if
we
want
to
put
an
amendment
to
our
current
code
to
make
this
not
allowable
or
to
specifically
prohibit
trucks
on
certain
stretches,
but
right
now
it
is
allowed
and
I'm
supportive
of
just
I
mean
it's
it's
loud.
C
Have
to
be
supportive
of
unsupportive
of
anything
because
it's
currently
allowed,
and
until
we
change
it,
they
have
the
right
to
do
what
they
have
the
right
to
do.
C
I
I
just
do
wonder
you
know,
if
there's
a
longer
term
solution
to
this
that
reduces
those
semis
coming
in
whether
it's
you
know
bifurcating,
where
you're
doing
some
of
the
work
and
finding
another
location
where
you
know
for
I,
don't
fully
understand
what
your
business
does
so
apologies,
but
if
there's
you
know
a
way
to
divert
some
of
that
traffic
somewhere
else
where
it's
you
know,
one
where
we
can
eliminate
the
traffic
concerns
or
The
Pedestrian
safety
concerns,
and
also
you
know,
keep
some
of
that
traffic
out
of
the
particularly
residential
areas
of
the
city.
C
I.
Think,
that's!
You
know,
that's
the
ultimate
solution
that
I'd
like
to
to
see
in
the
long
term.
Oh
all,.
D
In
there,
I
like
to
speak
to
the
volume
of
traffic
and
the
number
I
have
from
Evanston
Lumber
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
or
if
the
numbers
have
changed,
but
we're
saying
approximately
30
semis
a
week
right
with
a
higher
volume
on
Monday,
Wednesday
and
Friday
a
little
bit
lower
on
Tuesday
Thursday
and
the
majority
of
the
traffic
in
the
morning
a
little
bit
in
the
afternoon,
but
not
much,
and
let's
just
clarify
that
we're
talking
about
the
long-haul
over
the
road
semis
are
the
ones
that
we're
having
a
problem
with
your
delivery
trucks
that
are
contractors
coming
in
to
pick
up
Lumber
or
your
trucks
delivering
Lumber
to
job
sites.
D
Those
are
smaller.
They
can
make
the
turn
at
Main,
Street
they're,
not
an
issue.
It's
really
just
these
limited
number
of
trucks
that
we're
talking
about,
and
you
know.
For
that
reason.
This
strikes
me
as
the
best
solution
to
a
problem,
we're
not
proposing
to
make
Oakton
a
truck
route.
D
That
would
solve
the
problem
we're
talking
about
here,
but
it
also
would
open
up
opened
into
any
number
of
other
trucks,
and
you
know
I'll
agree
hooked
and
it's
also
a
busy
street
and
you
know
want
to
look
out
for
the
residents
along
Oakton.
But
since
we
do
have
the
kind
of
clear
and
present
danger
at
Oak
at
Maine
and
Custer
I
think
this
is
the
the
most
palatable
of
of
a
variety
of
not
so
good
options.
I.
G
A
E
I
mean
I.
Guess
that's
my
first
question
before
I
get
into
it
is:
are
we
looking
to
bring
this
back
to
the
decide
whether
or
not
we're
you
know?
Are
you
looking
for?
Ultimately?
Are
we
looking
for
a
vote
on
this,
or
is
it
just
a
discussion,
because
if
it's
just
a
discussion
and
I'm,
you
know
you
feel
how
councilman
Reed
feels
that
I
mean
we
can
leave
this
up
to
staff
to
determine
what
they
feel
is
best.
D
I
guess
I'll
leave
that
to
councilmember's
I'm
comfortable
going
along
with
current
policy
and
allowing
Evans
Lumber
to
reach
out
to
your
suppliers
and
reminding
them
that
they
are
allowed
to
do.
What
we're
proposing
here.
U
Thanks
personally,
I
want
to
have
residents
weigh
in
on
this
I
think
we
already
had
a
ton
of
feedback
today
from
people
pretty
much
everyone
I've
talked
to
who
lives
in
that
neighborhood
already
complains
about
trucks
that
aren't
supposed
to
be
there
going
down
Oakton
same
with
Asbury
and
so
I
think
this
is
a
huge
problem
and
I
I
would
like
us
to
address,
give
people
time
to
weigh
in
and
then
address
it
at
their
next
meeting.
C
N
C
Only
thing
we'd
be
doing
is
directing
staff
to
do
what
we've
essentially
some
former
Council,
has
already
directed
staff
to
do
in
the
police
department.
So
there's
the
only
thing
what
councilman
renuzma
is
essentially
or
what's
in
our
agenda
is
approving
a
resolution
that
would
direct
staff
to
do
what
the
law
is,
which
I
don't
know
if
we
really
need
to
direct
staff,
I
think
if
anything's
coming
back
it
might
be
some
other
policy,
but
there'd
be
nothing
substantive.
That
we'd.
E
C
But
if
we
want
to
but.
C
U
E
Vote
all
right
so
then
I
do
have
a
question
so
for
staff,
I
guess
one
I
think
it
was
mentioned
earlier
that
there's
a
there's,
a
a
space
that
you're
not
supposed
to
park,
but
people
park
there
if
no
one
ever
parked
there
would
that
improve
things,
and
if
so,
how
much
or
does
that
improve
things
on
the
days
that
that
no
one
has
parked
there?
Are
they
able
to
make
that
turn?
There's.
C
E
Was
still
an
issue
yeah
yeah
and
if
you,
if
you
removed
one
or
two
additional
spaces
on
Main
on
that
side
of
the
street,
with
that
help,
I'm.
E
E
B
E
So
the
relief
would
need
to
be
on
the
south
west
side
of
the
street,
where.
Q
Order
for
the
providers,
the
post
office
is
offset
three
to
four
feet
from
the
curb
which
is
a
sidewalk
and
on
the
other
side,
the
embankment
which
is
actually
retaining
wall
in
this
location
is
like
two
feet
from
the
curb
on
the
other
side.
So
so
you'd
have
to
move
the
embankment
or
the
post
office
building
and
we're
in
the
process
of
completing
design
on
the
Main
Street
streetscape
project
for
construction
next
year,
and
we
really
looked
at
this
corner
to
figure
out
how
to
improve
it.
But
it's
pretty
marginal.
E
Q
The
this
is
nowhere
close
to
turning
radius
that
works
for
a
large
okay.
E
Truck
well
I
mean
that's
to
me:
that's
the
ball
game
I
mean
it's.
You
know
that
was
my.
The
question
I
had
is
that
if
there's
relief
somewhere,
we
can
move
remove
parking
spaces.
If
we
can
push
this
back
push
that
back.
But
if
you're
saying
there's
nothing
that
we
can
do
on
this
site
in
order
to
to
create
the
the
right
angle,
then
I
don't
even
need
another.
You
know
meeting,
unfortunately,
because
that
was
all
of
my
questions
had
to
do
with
that
I
mean
we
clearly
see
here.
It's
a
it's
a
tight.
E
It's
a
it's
a
tight
turn.
You
know,
assuming
these
truckers
know
what
they're
doing,
which
I
know
they
do.
There
was
on
one
of
the
photos
I
saw
there
was
the
the
stop
sign
was
in
the
photo,
but
there
were
some
shoes
there
too,
and
they
were
empty.
Nobody
was
in
them,
so
hopefully
nobody
got
injured.
That
day.
E
C
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
there
isn't
nothing
that
can
be
done.
You
know
I
do
think
in
a
long
term,
in
the
over
the
long
term
it
given
that
there's
you
know
from
a
structural
or
design
standpoint,
there's
nothing.
We
can
do
I
think
it
may
indicate
Maybe
they've
outgrown
the
area,
and
maybe
you
know
part
of
the
business
needs
to
be
relocated
somewhere,
where.
C
C
Maybe
you
know
this
business
can,
in
the
long
term,
try
to
figure
out
another
solution.
So
in
the
short
term,
I
think
this.
In
the
immediate
term,
we
want
to
make
sure
people
are
safe.
We
don't
want
semis
blindly
backing
up
into
to
businesses,
but
I
think
really.
We
need
to
start
a
long-term
discussion
on
on
how
we
handle
this.
A
B
And
I'd
like
to
introduce
the
representative
from
Smith
group
here
who
is
here
to
give
us
the
presentation.
N
V
Good
evening,
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
be
here.
My
name
is
Mark
Wagstaff
I'm,
a
principal
at
the
Smith
group
in
Chicago
and
I'll,
be
talking
to
you
about
the
shoreline
repair
project.
V
V
Some
also
some
additional
information
about
previous
work
that
was
done
around
2020
and
then,
where
we
are
with
the
current
project,
the
scope,
the
status
and
then
what
is
going
to
be
the
next
steps
and
I'm
very
happy
to
take
any
questions
that
you
may
have
so
a
little
bit
of
background
everything
when
we're
talking
about
Lake
Michigan
and
the
shoreline
protection.
V
When
the
lake
level
is
low,
we
have
more
beach
in
front
of
the
structures
and
the
waves
that
arrive
at
the
shoreline
are
much
smaller
and
and
much
less
energetic.
When
the
lake
level
is
high,
then
we
get
much
larger
waves
coming
much
closer
to
Shore
and
it's
not
a
linear
relationship.
So
those
highlight
levels
that
we
experience,
we
get
very
damaging
conditions.
V
This
chart
here
shows
monthly
average
Lake
Michigan
levels
for
over
a
hundred
years
of
record,
and
you
can
see
in
the
blue
box
right
in
2020,
we
had
record
high
lake
levels,
but
that
was
that
came
right
after
a
period
in
2020,
so
2012
2013
when
we
had
had
record
lowly
levels,
and
so
it's
very
variable-
and
we
don't
know
what
is
going
to
happen
in
the
future
when
we
had
those
record
lake
levels
and
this
pair
of
images
sort
of
illustrates
a
big
difference
that
you
can
see
between
April
2013,
which
is,
on
the
left
hand,
side
of
May
2021,
which
is
on
the
right
hand,
side.
V
In
particular,
you
can
see
how
much
erosion
took
place
at
the
dog
beach,
for
example,
which
is
towards
the
top
of
that
image,
and
also
at
Greenwood,
which
is
in
the
the
lower
portion,
Greenwood
and
Dempster
at
the
bottom
of
that
image.
But,
interestingly,
you
know
some
of
the
other
beaches
actually
hadn't
had
much
less
impact,
but
those
two
in
particular.
You
can
see
how
much
erosion
took
place
as
a
result
of
those
High
lake
levels
and
what
we
saw
during
2020.
There
was
a
couple
of
quite
significant
storms,
one
in
particular
on
January
11th.
V
V
There
is
a
video
that
I
we
we
have
from
that
time
from
Clark
Street,
but
it
doesn't
actually
play
I'm
afraid
so.
I
can't
show
you
but
we'll
move
through.
So
in
2020,
the
city
did
a
produced,
a
road
map
where
there
was
a
risk
assessment
of
all
of
the
public
Shoreline
in
in
Evanston,
and
it
was
a
combination
of
the
condition
of
the
shoreline,
the
vulnerability
to
storms,
primarily
the
elevation
and
then
looking
at
how
that
those
areas
were
used.
V
Out
of
that
ranking
came
a
an
initial
estimate
of
what
some
of
the
capital
Improvement
cost
may
be
and
then
in
fact,
the
city
also
moved
ahead
with
some
permanent
repairs.
At
three
locations
at
Greenwood,
Beach
at
Dempster
and
at
Garden
Park,
and
then
also
some
temporary
flood
protection
that
was
installed
at
Elliott
Park
and
at
Dempster.
V
So
this
is
the
before
and
after
image
of
that
protection
at
Greenwood
and
then
also
at
Garden
Park
and
that
Dempster
Street.
So
the
current
project
is
looking
now
at
eight
of
the
highest
risk
areas
that
were
not
addressed
with
permanent
repairs
and
the
goals
are
to
look
at
long-term,
sustainable
shoreline
repair
Solutions
and,
if
possible,
to
identify
potential
external
funding
that
the
city
could
take
advantage
of,
for
example,
federal
funds
from
FEMA
and
others,
and
also
to
look
at
protecting
and
enhancing
the
recreational
opportunities
at
the
different
parks.
V
V
On
the
different
lake
level
conditions
so
that
we
know
what
the
design
parameters
are
and
there's
also
been
a
couple
of
public
engagements,
so
there
was
a
survey,
a
public
opinion
survey
that
went
out
which
we
got
about
1300
responses
from,
and
we've
held
one
public
open
house
last
month.
At
that
public
open
house,
we
shared
out
a
lot
of
the
results
from
the
public
opinion
survey.
We
allowed
people
the
opportunity
to
add
comments,
talk
to
members
of
the
team
and
to
provide
their
own
thoughts.
V
We
also
had
image
boards
with
a
variety
of
different
types
of
shorelines,
for
people
to
be
able
to
respond
to
people
were
given
green
or
yellow
green
means
yeah,
we
kind
of
like
the
way
that
looks
and
and
yellow
was
yeah,
not
not
so
much
so
what
where
we
are
right
now
is
working
on
at
each
of
those
eight
locations,
some
different
concepts
that
could
that
would
take
it.
Take
into
account
some
of
the
the
response
and
the
feedback
that
we've
gotten
and
thinking
about
how
some
of
these
different
areas
could
be
addressed.
V
The
schedule
for
the
balance
of
the
project
right
now
we're
in
this
concept
design
phase.
There
are
going
to
be
a
couple
more
public
engagements
that
will
take
place
early
next
year
and
then
we
will
move
into
a
preliminary
engineering
phase
so
that
we
can
get
some
reliable
cost
estimates
and
carry
out
benefit,
cost
analysis
which
is
necessary
for
the
application
for
any
federal
funding,
and
that
would
take
place
into
the
next
spring.
V
So
that's
the
schedule
that
we're
working
to
so,
as
I
said
the
in
the
conceptual
design
phase
we're
going
to
look
at
each
one
of
these
eight
areas,
we'll
be
we'll
be
looking
at
not
only
traditional
jawline
protection,
but
also
whether
there's
some
opportunity
for
a
more
nature-based
or
green
infrastructure
type
of
of
arrangement.
V
V
So
I
went
through
the
slides
pretty
quickly.
I
could
talk
about
this
topic
for
a
long
time,
but
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions.
If,
if
there
are
any
I
know,
you
have
a
lot
of
other
business
tonight.
Also
so.
B
It's
posted
on
the
APW
sheet:
okay,.
A
It's
there
an
agenda
for
this
evening.
Okay,
great
so
I
know,
there's
been
for
us.
A
lot
of
residents
have
asked:
what's
the
difference
between
we
have
like
Shoreline
restoration,
Shoreline,
repair,
Shoreline,
there's
so
there's
about
four
different.
A
The
road
map
can
we
get
find
out
what
we've
invested
so
far
and
I'm,
not
this
one,
I'm
being
a
so
you
but
staff
going
back
to
when
we
began
this
and
and
then
I
think,
there's
a
five-year
projection,
I
think
also
as
to
where
this
is
going
to
go
so
that
we
have
sort
of
an
idea
of
the
residents.
Q
I
will
email
you
the
list
of
all
the
things
I
actually
prepared
it,
but
it
just
didn't
make
it
into
the
slide
presentation.
So
I
will
send
that
to
you.
I
would
not
get
very
hung
up
on
the
five-year
budget
staff
put
in
a
placeholder
when
we
put
in
numbers
for
the
five-year
budget
at
best
we're
putting
an
estimate
on
the
total
project.
Q
Cost
I
find
it
hard
to
believe
that
unless
there
was
a
huge
outcry
from
the
city
council
that
we
would
move
forward
without
getting
Federal
funding
to
cover
the
majority
of
the
costs,
so
whatever
numbers
are
in
there
are
sort
of
just
pretty
wishy-washy
at
this
point,
I
would
wait
until
we
get
through
the
public
engagement.
We
get
more
detailed
cost
estimates,
and
then
we
have
a
discussion
about.
What
really
are
the
next
steps
before
I
get
to
interest
in
the
five-year
program?
For
this.
A
Great,
thank
you.
Okay,
any
other
comments,
discussion.
Okay!
Well
with
that,
I
think
our
that
brings
your
clothes,
the
APW
meeting
and.