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H
I
I
A
F
J
G
A
little
far
back
but
I
can
but
I
am
here.
You
can
start.
B
Great
okay,
so
we'll
call
the
order
and
it
looks
like
we
have
a
a
forum
we
want
to
take
in
attendance.
G
I
B
F
D
Okay,
I
have
one
public
comment
here
from
Mary
rosinski
good
evening
committee
I
appreciate
the
challenges
you
have
in
helping
create
a
fiscal
responsible
project.
D
B
J
B
J
Or
just
to
yeah
kind
of
give
it
a
chance.
Thank
you.
This
is
the
single
audit.
It's
like
a
Federal
granddaughter,
so
we
just
kind
of
put
this
thing
in
front
of
that.
It
goes
to
the
city
council
too,
and
we
have
what
we
call
unqualified
opinion
from
these
single
articles.
This
is
all
about
the
federal
brands.
J
K
K
J
A
B
All
right,
okay!
So
now,
let's
get
more
into
the
the
matter
at
hand,
which
is
the
the
budget.
J
All
right,
so
we
have
the
representation
of.
We
will
I.
Think.
However,
we
want,
but
I
thought
they'd
like
just
was
kind
of
finish
the
presentation
you
know
so
I
think
maybe
sometimes
you
get
your
answers
in
the
next
slide
or
something
and
then
we
will
cover
any
and
all
questions.
You
know.
J
I
mean
sometimes
we
work
until
the
last
minute
to
update
any
information
so
so,
and
basically
yeah
for
the
council
members
pretty
much.
This
would
be
the
presentation
on
17,
just
okay
right,
except
some
more
additional.
D
C
K
J
Okay,
I
can
just
move
forward
and
30
inches
yeah,
we'll
keep
the
appropriate
slide
here.
So
you
can
follow
along.
You
know
so:
increase
from
22
adopt
your
budget
of
around
42
million,
mainly
it
is
because
of
the
capital
projects
in
the
Waterfront
capital
and
capital
fund,
CIP
foreign.
J
Mainly
it's
the
personal
items.
So
that's
why,
compared
to
the
last
year
we
have
seen
the
increase
in
the
expenditure
of
42
million
dollars.
As
I
said,
the
budget
is
posted
on
the
website
proposed
budget.
Even
today
we
posted
the
all
the
memos
for
the
new
position
or
new
expenses.
So
if
you
in
particular
like
any
big
expenses,
we
have
posted,
we
asked
the
department
to
have
the
justification
memo
so
I
think
we
just
posted
right
yeah
going
into
the
okay.
J
Let's
move
on
to
the
next
one
proposed
general
fund,
Revenue,
then
I
think
I
mentioned
it
with
the
council
members
that
we
have
increased
our
budget
for
some
of
the
revenues
based
on
the
current
year
and
the
past
year.
Looking
at
the
history
I'm
like
okay,
we
are
doing
pretty
good
income
tax
gents.
This
is
a
ambulance
money
for
the
Federal
grant
for
the
Medicaid
we
get
it
and
I've
really
been
used
to.
When
the
program
started.
J
We
will
we
used
to
start
it
with
a
very
conservative
estimate,
but
looking
at
this
last
couple
of
years
and
talking
to
the
fire
chief
and
others,
so
we
have
increased
the
budget
by
1.3
million
the
revenues,
personal
property
replacement,
tax
again
same
thing,
some
of
those
taxes.
We
have
increased
Auto
tax,
we
have
Recreation
program
fees
and
mutually
so
we
have
bumped
up
the
revenues
while
looking
at
the
current
year
trend,
one
proposed
general
fund
budget
expenses,
and
this
is
what
the
general
wage
increase.
J
We
kind
of
looked
at
the
market
and
like
around
five
percent.
It
ranges
I
mean
all
the
unions,
fire,
police
and
the
absolute
big
ones.
The
contracts
are
up
for
Renewal
this
year
and
most
likely
those
would
be
wrapped
up
after
the
year
end.
So
we
have
to
come
up
with
some
kind
of
fair
estimate
of
the
increase
and
then
there's
a
new
positions
of
around
2.4
million
dollars.
J
There
are
some
one-time
expenses
about
the
equipment,
cardiac
monitors
tree
inoculations,
some
of
those
are
contractual
increases
to
the
inflation
and
then
elimination
of
mft
transfer
going
into
the
general
fund,
which
we
have
eliminated
somewhere.
J
J
This
is
the
kind
of
a
23
Baseline
budget
and
the
proposed
budget.
When
we
say
Baseline,
it
is
just
without
any
changes
to
the
revenues
and
expenses
and
the
last
column,
where
you
see
that
general
fund
total
revenue
at
125
million
dollars
and
expense
is
that
135
Euro
and
in
those
you
would
see
that
the
expenses,
what
are
those
salary
increase
conditions,
contractually
increase?
And
how
would
we
make
up
that
and
that's
where
we
proposing
to
use
some
of
those
excess
development
results
from
the
last
year?
As
of
2021?
J
Yes,
corporate
property
tax
levy,
increase.
We
are
proposing
a
four
percent
increase
to
the
corporate
property
tax
levy
and
that's
how
we
are
balancing
the
Quran.
Now
one
thing
which
came
up
in
our
discussion
with
the
council,
we
haven't
shown
any
revenue
from
the
arpa
fund
in
2022
when
we
balance
the
budget,
the
council
approved
4.25
million
dollars
to
balance
the
22
budget
this
year
in
23.
We
are
not
showing
that
and
the
one
reason
is
the
kind
of
good
news
in
the
sense
that
we
have
enough
access
out
of
our
2021
fund
balance.
J
J
A
I
J
Let's
go
to
the
next
one
yeah.
This
is
the
one
which,
while
I
was
talking
about
that
this
is
our
21
actual
audited
numbers.
So
we
ended
with
around
31.4
million
dollars.
That
is
a
don't.
Have
the
highlighter
yeah
31.4
million
dollar
in
fund
balance,
and
what
is
our
requirement
of
16.66
is
around
19.6.
So.
J
J
Okay,
we
will
cover
that.
Yes,
it's
a
good
to
be
able
to
look
at
it,
so
we
are
showing
you
the
excess
of
11.7
million
dollars
and
some
of
those
things
which
we
have
listed
there
have
been
approved
by
the
city
council,
which
equates
to
around
4.9
million
and
leaving.
F
J
J
J
F
J
This
is
the
extra
one
and
then
the
excess
is
around
6.8
million
dollars,
and
out
of
that
6.8
we
are
proposing
to
use
around
4.6
million
excess
to
balance
23
percent.
Let's
move
on
to
the
next
one.
These
are
the
projections
for
the
next
four
or
five
years
and
how
it
looks
trigger
you
want
to
talk
about
it.
E
Yeah
I
can
talk
a
little
high
level,
so
it's
the
three
year
outlook
based
on
some
of
the
items
that
are
requested
this
year.
A
E
Sorry
they
are
showing
the
same
thing.
This
is
just
a
small
or
less
busy
version.
Okay,
but
so,
when
hitesh
presented,
the
general
fund
update
mid-year,
we
were
projecting
about
a
seven
million
dollar
Surplus.
We're
committed
to
updating
those
numbers
at
the
end
of
September
since
we'll
be
75
of
the
year
75
of
the
way
through
the
year,
and
so
the
presentation
at
October
city
council
will
have
some
updated
projections
for
this
year
through
September.
D
D
E
And
so
this
is
the
same
projection
that
it
has
shared
last
month.
Seven
million
but,
like
I,
said
we'll
update
that
that
includes
things
like
the
salary
and
wages
coming
in
under
budget
real
estate
transfer
tax,
those
types
of
things
helping
contribute
to
another
strong
Surplus
in
22..
E
We've
had
a
couple
good
years,
most
definitely
in
terms
of
revenues
and
containing
expenses.
But,
as
attached
said,
a
lot
of
that
is
due
to
inflation.
So
we
know
that
some
of
our
revenues
have
surged
to
some
record
highs
right
now,
not
sure
how
sustainable
that's
going
to
be,
but
that
has
allowed
us
to
capture
some
some
good
surpluses,
which
is
already
talked.
A
E
J
I
H
F
E
J
B
F
J
J
J
E
A
J
K
Can
we
anticipate
a
budget
amendment
if
the
contract
negotiations
conclude
and
we
end
up
pay
more
than
50
years
in
here.
J
H
F
B
J
Of
right,
we
are
showing
that,
if
you
see
then
highlighted
in
blue,
though
Fifth
Line
from
the
bottom
ending
fund
balance
so
from
31
as
of
21
to
like
15.8,
so
you
still
have
money
a
lot
of
money,
16.
J
J
E
Know
yeah
I
can
tell
you
too
just
having
just
did
a
budget
in
Schaumburg
to
our
2021
revenues
were
record
highs
across
the
board.
They
were
the
highest.
We
had
seen
across
the
board
sales
taxes,
hotels,
it
was
mostly
the
economy,
it
was
mostly
the
post,
Soviet
covid,
a
consumer
surge
of
of
sales
taxes,
home
rule
sales,
taxes,
those
soared
to
income.
E
J
A
J
J
E
Okay,
so
looking
at
the
next
one,
just
a
few
things
we
did
want
to
mention,
this
is
just
collapsing:
the
revenues
and
expenses.
We
know
that
there
could
be
some
potential
permit
revenue
from
Northwestern
football
stadium.
There's
a
couple
other
things
in
the
works
that
may
help
get
us
out
of
this
kind
of
embellishment.
J
I
mean
council
members
won't
know,
Northwestern
has
a
big
plan
of
Ryan
Field
we
haven't
included,
permit
Revenue
could
be
a
5
7
10,
we
don't
know,
but
I
think
the
direction
we
get
from
city
manager
that
once
we
have
kind
of
know,
a
little
bit
more
timeline.
You
know
with
some
accuracy
and
the
amount
we
have
we
could.
You
know
improve
that.
J
Contract
yeah
right
there.
We
are
getting
there
into
the
fun
times
right
there
yeah.
So
this
is
the
fund
balance
policy
and,
as
I
said
in
last
year
and
half
whenever
I
went
to
and
see
the
other
peers.
You
know
the
finance
directors
and
other
even
some
of
the
city
managers
because
of
the
kovid.
What
hit
you
know
like
suppose?
What
happened
in
Evans
still
employees
took
the
followers
10
followers,
because
we
were
losing
the
revenues
in
Skokie
or
some
of
the
surrounding
communities.
F
J
So
because
they
had
a
high
fund
balance-
and
these
are
the
some
of
the
target,
the
policy
of
some
of
the
Cities
Evanston
is
16.66.
Evanston
Public
Library
is
four
to
six
months.
Bartlett
25
to
35
Schaumburg
at
40
percent
Skokie
at
25
knives
at
40
percent
displays
at
25
percent
Half
Men.
So
we
realized
that
the
bottom
number
outside
of
Evanston
is
20
from
Naperville.
So
we
thought,
let's
move
it
up
to
20
percent
and
that
just.
H
J
J
D
D
B
C
C
C
One
thing
on
this
slide:
I
I,
wonder
you
know
what
is
considered
within
the
general
fund
and
not
within
the
general
fund
is
fairly
arbitrary
within
itself,
I
mean
we
move
certain
funds
within
and
out
of
the
general
fund
in
the
first
place.
So
why
does
this
number
even
matter?
Why
does
it
matter
that
we
have
whether.
F
C
C
C
J
C
C
J
J
I
B
F
F
B
C
B
J
Year
to
see
these
things
that
okay,
like
again,
these
funds
are
like
the
35.
So
when
you
see
the
bond
that
like
say,
20
million
I
cannot
intermingle
and
take
it
from
here
and
give
it
or
use
it
for
water
or
parking
for
which
Enterprise
ones
like
that,
or
if
it's
for
a
teeth
that
you
know,
we
shoot
the
bond
for
thief.
It
should
be
separately
accounted
for
them,
particularly
it's
a
taxable
bond
for
the
team.
J
E
Is
yeah
I
mean
David
AAA
Bond
rating?
They
get
great
rates
on
when
they
go
out
for
debt.
They
didn't
have
any
furlough
days,
they've,
not
let
anybody
off
in
my
eight
years
there
other
than
poor
performing
employees.
So
there
were
the
the
property
tax
delay.
That's
going
on
right
now
with
Cook
County.
They
don't
have
to
issue
a
letter
of
credit
or
excuse
me
a
line
of
credit
for
that.
E
E
J
So
this
is
the
thing
like
where
we
are
showing
that
okay,
we
have
the
deficit
budget
and
someone
said
okay,
why
you
have
the
deficit
budget
and
one
of
the
things
is
like
our
performance
is
the
big
one.
You
know
where
we
have
received
the
money,
but
now
we
will
have
to
spend
it
so
it
will
be
a
deficit
budget.
There
won't
be
any
Revenue,
but
all
the
expenses
same
thing
in
Waterfront,
general
fund,
waste
evidence,
housing,
motor
field
like
as
I
mentioned,
like
in
CIP
side,
we
haven't,
issued
the
bond.
J
We
are
still
spending
the
money
you
know.
So
what
I'm
I
talked
to
a
lot
of
Biggs
our
city
engineer,
and
she
said
he
says.
Yes,
we
will
continue
to
review
where
we
are
after
six
months,
but
she
said
yeah
I
said
we
would
be
okay
until
the
next
spring
or
summer.
You
know
to
defer
this
bond
issue
until
we
draw
substantially.
H
J
H
Well,
yeah
and
council,
member
Burns
and
Clayton
and
I
had
the
opportunity
I
mean
we
can
go
through
these
and
kind
of
talk
about.
You
know,
I,
think
that
this
this,
you
know,
needs
to
be
a
discussion
around.
We
need
to
have
them
want
to
have,
because
there's
some
stuff
on
here
that
I,
certainly
wouldn't
bond
out
for
in
in
this
environment.
I.
Think
the
less
you
can.
You
know
at
least
amount
of
debt,
we're
going
to
be
issuing
a
better
option.
J
D
J
D
D
Been
a
responsible
over
the
years
that
we
have
been
Plumbing
at
19
is
full
enough.
It's
you
know,
compounded
that
10
that
we
are
making
I
spoke
at
link
today
with
this
guy
from
France
at
Jason.
J
J
F
D
So
so,
and
that's
what
helps
to
bring
it
down
as
opposed
to
escalating
every
year,
this
would
actually
be
paying
every
year
that
we
aren't
paying
that.
That
has
been
escalating
and
blowing
up
about
100
million
in
the
last
15
years
from
not
from
only
pay
by
90
in
the
past
like
last
year,
it
would
have
been
it
would
have
been
about
4.2
million.
D
B
F
K
J
Going
yeah-
and
this
is
the
summary
of
the
tax
levy,
so
you
would
see
that
general
fund
tax
levy.
They
increase
that
2.6
million
Human
Service
fund.
We
are
keeping
the
levy
same,
even
though
we
have
a
healthy
fund
balance
and
yeah
kind
of
I
talked
to
Ike
and
we
could
have
like
maybe
a
room
for
maybe
half
a
million
reduction
there,
but
he
just
wants
to
keep
it
in
case.
J
The
we
just
saw
the
one
which
approved
by
Council
last
night
about
50
000
for
the
protocol
Refugee
fund,
so
he's
thinking
about
that.
Okay,
any
programs
like
those
come
so
he
wants
to
keep
the
same,
but
otherwise
I
saw
because,
as
of
September
I
think
it
is
sitting
at
around
two
and
a
half
million
fund
balance
and
then
I
add
3.1
to
that
I.
Don't
know
whether
he
could
spend
that
5
million.
J
J
Again,
there
is
a
little
bit
room
there,
not
as
much
as
half
a
million,
maybe
100,
000
reduction,
because
it
has
some
fund
balance
too
and
we
can
reduce
potentially
by
yeah
a
little
bit
there,
our
library
fund,
their
board
approved.
Yes,
your
question.
F
H
H
C
J
But
when
they
come,
they
need
the
money
for
tax
delivery
purpose.
It
comes
to
the
city,
council
and
City
councilor
the
right
to
change.
Okay,
Solid
Waste
fund.
We
still
kept
the
levy
same.
J
The
council
approved
the
million
dollar
transfer,
so
we
would
have
very
minimal
increase
in
the
rates
for
the
residents
so
that
helped
a
big
time.
Solid
West
has
been
running
the
negative
balance
for
the
last
many
years
because,
even
though
it's
being
an
Enterprise
fund,
we're
not
getting
enough
user
fees
from
the
president,
so
at
least
we
give
the
portion
of
property.
Tax
levy
loves
extra
million
dollar
out
of
general
fund
so
that
we
have
around
1.8
percent
right.
That's
what
the
increase
Debt
Service!
B
And
so
these
two
don't
make
any
sense
right.
I
mean
that
I
think
that's
based
on
an
open
asset
number
right.
So
if
we
did,
if
we
redid
the
recommended
contribution
to
to
90
or
100,
maybe
both
right,
90
or
100
by
2040
but
again
using
the
September
30
asset
balances,
which
are
substantially
lower
I've,
got
to
believe
that
it
yeah
yeah
right.
B
Lower
in
our
assets,
then
then
we
would
have
projected
ourselves
to
be.
You
can
see
that
that
would
affect
that.
J
J
J
Percent
by
Twenty
forty,
the
one
thing
which
I
always
mentioned-
that
ninety
percent
most
cities,
including
Schaumburg
Naperville,
will
serve
the
stable
communities
they
use
level
percentage.
That
means
is,
you
have
to
contribute
more,
as
the
payroll
goes
up,
your
we
use
the
level
dollar.
So
we
estimate
the
dollar
and
divide
by
the
remainder
each
year,
contributing
higher
and
I
think
we
contribute.
I
J
Found
formula
but
yeah:
we
have
well
about
the
state.
J
D
B
B
H
D
G
D
Right
the
way
the
market
is
right
now
towards
so
he
highly
recommended.
If
we
that
we
should
do
this
4.5
million,
which
would
be
quite
understands-
that's
240
million
right
now
and
it's
going
to
increase
this
is,
will
start
us
on
a
better
path
and
and
I
I
think
we
need
to
come
up
with
that
money
and
I
think
we
still
haven't
heard
about
Surplus,
because
I
know
like
I
want.
The
Surplus
is
broken
down
more
I
believe
we,
the
surpluses,
are
far
greater
than
what's
shown.
F
B
D
D
I
think
that
there
are
there's
this
there's
many
different
places
where
this
can
come
from
without
increasing
our
text
more
and
I
think
even
animal.
It's
just
that
this
hasn't
been
done,
so
it
should
be
figured
into
our
budget
yet
and
I
think
that
we
can
figure
it
into
this
function.
I
would
ask
that
staff
go
back
and
figure
it
into
this
question.
I
would
say
yes
to
Les's
Point,
let's
not
do
20
next
year
during
year
or
they're.
Expecting
a
recession
by
this
exist
ing
six
to
nine
months.
D
I'm,
a
legal-
and
this
isn't
a
good
year
to
say:
oh,
let's
go
ahead
and
increase
this.
We
don't
need
to
do
that.
I
mean
there
are
a
lot
of
places
and
I
think
I
want
to
see
fully
salaries.
What
we
budget
for
salaries,
not
by
by
Department
I,
want
to
see
a
full-on.
What
we
budget,
where
we're
at
in
terms
of
surplus
of
salaries-
and
we
see
where
we're
at
in
terms
of
transfer
property
transfer
taxes.
D
Last
year
we
were
Millions
ahead,
but
we
didn't
know
that
when
we
were
trying
figure
out
are
a
bunch
of
I
think
that
the
money
is
there,
that
we
can
do
this,
and
we
should
start
this
year
and
every
year
this
should
be
part
of
our
budget
and
we're
planning
our
budget.
Because
it's
been
to
me
what
we've
done
for
the
evidence
of
taxpayers
in
terms
of
you
know
this
pension
debt
up
to
240
million
out,
didn't
we
don't
need,
we
didn't
need
to
be
there.
We
can
start
to
reverse.
J
F
J
Yeah
I
mean
it
is
the
rating
could
be
the
one
because
they
always
ask
about
it,
and
particularly
when
we
were
low
compared
to
even
16.6.
The
other
thing
is
the
big
thing
when
the
cover
will
hit,
as
he
mentioned,
I
mean
we
reach
out
to
the
some
of
those
communities,
because
the
employees
were
initially
like
not
kind
of
receptive
to
the
idea
of
taking
10
follow
days.
J
You
know,
so
we
reach
out
to
those
some
of
the
others
and
then
because.
F
J
B
B
J
These
are
the
some
of
those
is
a
good
point
and
that's
what
I
think
I
mentioned
somewhere
in
the
council
meeting
that
okay,
if
we
don't
do
this
I'm
like
what
are
the
options,
though
you
know,
if
you
don't
do
property
tax
level,
I
said:
can
you
give
us
the
money
from
arpa
like
last
year
and
we
can
balance
that
2.6
million?
And
then
we
don't
have
to
do
that?
That's
here
or
go
deeper
into
our
fund
balance
and
use
that
one
without
raising
that
and
yeah
and
ultimately
what
this
means
there?
G
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
personally,
what
I
support,
unless
you
know
our
Financial
people
in
the
room,
think
that
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
do
that,
but
I
am
leaning
towards
fun,
balanced
art,
but
the
other
one
not
supporting
raising
property
taxes
again,
unless
I
can
hear
a
convincing
reason
why
that
doesn't
make
sense.
But
I
just
want
to
put.
D
Tax
I
think
that's
your
rather
than
leveraging
a
really
high
debt
right
now,
a
high
rate
on
debt
I'd
be
more
in
favor
of
increasing
property
tax
and
doing
that
and
I
also
want
to
be.
F
H
H
Dollars
why
can't
you
wait
till
the
lawsuit's
over
and
then
I'm
sorry,
this
dog
shelter
for
six
or
seven
million
dollars?
It
feels
like
Crown
part,
two,
you
know
and
and
fire
Biggs
and
I,
Clayton
and
Bobby.
You
were
at
a
meeting
recently
where
she
talked
about
the
fact
quote
when
we
did
crowd.
It
was
just
this
small
group
of
people
who
completely
Drew
drove
that
project
and
she
just
was
taking
Direction,
and
it
feels
to
me
like.
Okay,
again,
we've
got
some
small
group
of
people
driving
an
enormous
project.
H
We
have
no
business
building,
particularly
in
in
a
year
we're
going
into
a
recession.
Why
would
we
bond
for
that
right
now?
And
you
know
if
you
look
at
Lake
Charles
properties,
there
are
11
000
square
feet,
they're
going
for
what
you're
talking
about
building
that
Philly
self-shelter
for
and
the
community
I
think
you
know
in
the
main
communities
like
they
hear:
okay,
we're
building
a
dog
children
great!
We
like
dogs,
we'll
do,
but
when
you,
when
it's
like
okay,
but
it's
at
the
expense
of
funding,
The
Trenches
is
it.
H
F
J
G
K
D
D
Many
of
this
I
mean
we
all
about.
We
got.
We
got
two
million
from
the
county
for
the,
for
example,
for
the
animal
shelter,
two
millions
a
lot
of
money.
Nobody
ever
said
we
won
a
400
per
square
foot,
shelter
that
was
staff's
idea.
I
just
said,
like
a
lot
of
this
is
not
being
driven
by
Council
or
by
residents.
It's
coming
to
us
and
we
really
need
to
staff
needs
to
understand
like
we
have
to
serve
the
residents
here
and
tighten
our
belts
next
year,
everybody's.
D
Are
going
to
be
doing
that
so,
yes,
I,
agree
with
you,
David
I,
don't
mind
like
raising
taxes
if
we're
not
bounding,
leveraging
crazy,
ridiculously
rate
of
debt
and
and
if
we're
now,
finally
moving
towards
a
better
place
than
our
pension.
If
that's
okay
with
me,
but
it's
not
okay
with
me.
It's
just
spending
on
CRP
projects
that
are
not
something
we
really
need
next
year
or
or
we
scale
it
back
to
something,
that's
reasonable!
That's
what
we
have
to
do
for
the
rest
of
us
we're
here
for
the
residents
we.
B
B
B
We
can
include
right
now,
there's
probably
some
points
that
need
to
be
really
vetted
on
some
of
these
major
projects,
and
we
might
need
to
be
realistic
about
what
is
the
right
pension
contribution
going
forward
and
schedule
that
and
understand
how
that's
going
to
play
out
over
the
next
17
years,
based
on
the
current
based
upon
the
current
actuatorial
assumptions.
Those
are
two
big
things:
what
are
the
right
capital
projects.
C
Mix
most
of
the
capital
projects,
it
actually
wouldn't
impact
our
because
this
is
all
borrowed
money
right.
It's
not
like
we're
actually
taking
money
from
our
balance,
our
current
balance
and
spending
it
on
these
capital
projects.
We
are
borrowing
money
and
that
money
is
being
directly
allocated
and
spent
in
this
year,
but
we're
really
not
paying
that
money
back.
A
H
It
doesn't
really
it
won't
impact
next.
Would
it
I
mean
said
to
me
at
the
meeting
we
had
she
said
we
typically
I
said:
how
did
you
even
project?
How
did
you
even
pick-
and
she
said
well,
you
know
10
million
would
roll
off
the
balance
sheet
and
kind
of
roll
10
million
on
it's
like
okay,
well
you're
rolling
on
at
seven
and
you're
rolling
off
at
three.
You
know
it
it
just
this
is
this
has
got
to
be
looked
at
by
Council.
H
C
D
D
G
D
B
F
F
B
J
J
J
J
That's
why
we
have
it?
Yes,
when
the
market
grows
up,
it
stays
within
the
pension.
We
don't.
We
cannot
take
it
out.
Even
if
you
want,
we
have
no
control.
Remember
this
city
council
does
not
have
any
control,
it
is
the
pension
board
and
even
now,
investing
side
for
at
least
the
fire
it
is
centralized.
So
even
the
fire
pension
board
doesn't
have
a
control
too.
How
to
invest
that
one.
So.
D
D
D
H
Have
another
question-
and
this
came
up
during
our
meeting
the
the
maintenance
of
every
building
we
don't
seem
to
have
any
records.
Is
that
correct?
That's.
D
D
D
D
B
D
J
So
I
would
move
along
as
a
and
then
again
yeah
time
permitting.
As
the
chair
says,
this
is
the
kind
of
like
property
tax
rate
I
compared
with
some
of
the
other
neighboring
communities
average
composite
rate
as
a
percentage
of
the
eav,
so
Evanston
is
at
8.169.
This
is
last
year
because
we
don't
have
the
data.
The
latest
data
from
Cook
County
Skokie
is
at
9.284.
J
Wilmette
is
7.895
of
the
eav
Morton
Grove
9.72
Lincolnwood
at
8.84
and
9
Z
8.201.
So
these
are
the
rates
and
obviously
each
pin
number
could
be
have
a
different
rate.
If
you
are
in
modern
row,
but
you
have
a
nice
park,
district
versus
Morton,
Grove,
Park
District,
the
rate
could
change
a
little
bit.
You
know,
depending
on
the
same
thing
in
the
school
district,
but
this
is
the
average
composite
rate.
I
got
it
from
the
Cook
County
report.
So
these
are
the
property
tax
rates.
J
Know
about
the
property
value,
yeah
and
equalize
SS
value.
Is
you
take
your
value
and
then
assessed
value?
So,
like
suppose,
your
residential
house,
you
know,
and
it's
the
market
value
300
000
10
percent,
if
the
Cook
County
rate
so
30
000
becomes
your
assets
rule
then
that
30
000
is
multiplied
by
what
we
call
equalizer,
which
is
determined
by
the
state
government
and
generally
it
runs
around
300
three,
you
know
so
then
it
becomes.
Ninety
thousand
is
the
eav
and
ninety
thousand.
You
pay
eight
percent
of
ninety
thousand.
J
F
F
J
J
This
is
the
dollar
which
we
kind
of.
At
least
this
is
very
useful
at
the
ward
meeting,
because
so
many
times
people
think
it
is
the
city
which
takes
away
all
the
money
of
our
property
tax.
The
city's
share
is
only
17
percent.
The
school
districts
I
think
mainly
almost
66
to
70
percent,
both
combined.
You
know,
let's
go
District,
65
and
eths,
so
it's
roughly.
D
J
So
at
least
they
have
that
flexibility.
So
this
is
the
azum
rate
of
return
that
I'm
coming
back
to
the
pensions
and
I'm
six
and
a
half
used
by
Evanston
Illinois
Department
of
Insurance,
which
kind
of
calculates
their
own
report
and
they
are
using
six
and
a
half.
And
then
out
of
some
of
the
other
communities
is
Bartlett,
Schaumburg
Warrenville.
J
A
J
B
J
B
D
J
A
D
J
Right
we
like
to
see
this.
This
is
first
year
with
the
five
consolidation,
so
we'll
see
there
yeah,
but
it's
about.
J
A
J
J
Minor
increase
in
that
you
see
the
13
per
year
or
224
bi-monthly
and
the
1.8
000
includes
to
the
solid
waste
fee
where
we
say
that
okay
I
mean
still
I,
think
even
23.
We
expect
the
solid
waste
one
to
be
in
red,
in
spite
of
one
million
dollar
and
the
levy
of
1.3
million,
but
I
think
in
the
I
think
in
next
two
years
we
hope
to
have
it
implied
so
that
you
know
I
mean
this
is
an
Enterprise
fund,
and
this
is
one
of
the
question
asked
by
the
rating
agents.
J
E
It
Tash
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
new
positions
that
have
proposed
in
the
budget.
There's
39,
including
22,
and
a
half
in
the
general
fund.
I
suspect
these
will
be
kind
of
topic.
Conversation
over
the
next
couple
months
with
Department
directors,
are
at
City
Council
meetings.
Many
of
these
are
recommended
by
the
baker
Tilly
study
that
the
city
council
reviewed
in
early
September,
four
of
the
22
and
a
half
in
the
general
fund
are
recommended
by
Baker
Tilly.
Other
ones
are
seven
firefighter
paramedics
and
a
fire
captain.
E
The
goal
of
those
positions
is
to
be
able
to
expand
to
a
third
ambulance
and
to
supervise
the
Lifeguard
operations
in
the
beaches.
Community
Development
has
a
few
positions
as
well
to
help
with
permit
Services
residential
plan
review,
and
then
you
know,
positions
like
the
grants,
officer
and
City
manager's
office.
That's
an
expense,
so
we
budgeted
the
expense
for
that
position,
but
the
hope
would
be
that
position
goes
out,
captures
grants
and
helps
pay
for
themselves.
We
don't
budget
the
revenues
for
a
position
like
that.
D
So
can
you
which,
which
ones
did
what
was
that
from
foreign.
E
E
E
D
J
Mean
this
would
be
a
more
conversation
at
the
city
manager
level.
They
had
a
series
of
meetings,
they
stormed
back
and
look
store
with
each
department,
directors
and
managers
and
obviously
I
think
the
list
was
longer
than
this
and
then
I
think
I
believe
we
pushed
it
on
our
side
from
the
number
side
that
okay,
we
can
do
that.
Maybe
we
can
stretch
out
over
the
next
year
or
two
and
I
think
they
have
a
second
round
third
round.
E
Correct
yes,
also
worth
mentioning
of
the
39.
Seven
of
them
were
approved
by
city
council
earlier
this
year
in
the
water
fund,
for
the
lead
service
line
replacement
program
and
that's
what
that
five
percent
fee
increase
is
paying
for
those
seven
positions.
So
technically,
there's
32
positions
that
the
city
council
hasn't
seen
yet
that
are
being
included
in
this
budget.
D
E
Five
positions:
seven,
they
would
have
seen
those
probably
in
their
in
their
study.
Yeah.
E
B
E
J
D
D
J
H
J
D
Yeah,
so
I
would,
if
I
could
just
so
next
year,
so
that
we're
not
just
sort
of
reacting
I
would
hope
like
if
David
see
what
you
think
that
in
July
or
August
that
you
all
would
come
here
and
we
would
plan
to
sort
of
give
direction
for
things
like
say
the
pension,
and
then
you
would
come
back
and
Incorporated.
Some
of
these
suggestions
does
that
sound
our
like
July,
August,
I.
B
B
D
I
feel,
like
all
of
us,
have
different
right,
but
I'm
just
saying
a
lot
more
globally
for
next
year,
though
we
would
say
time.
First,
we
said:
okay,
for
you
know
we
discussed
and
we
gave
some
Global
Direction
there
wouldn't
be
as
much
like
you
know.
Sort
of
things
would
be
a
little
bit
more
in
line
with
expectations.
D
D
Development
they
meet
with
the
community
first
before
they
would
submit
their
application
that
they're
more
in
line
with
and
I
think
that,
just
because
this
is
all
new
like
a
financing
budget
last
year
was
the
first
year
for
this.
So
I
would
ask
that
before
a
proposed
budget
sort
of
a
principles,
doc.
J
Right
now
we
will
have
the
model
and
even
I,
want
to
see
that
we
were
talking
at
the
budget
deal
that
okay,
we
will
keep
this
model
and
we'll
see
after
six
months
or
a
year.
How
does
it
look
based
on
some
of
the
actual
numbers
like
on
the
expense
side?
We
would
have
the
union
contracts
done
right,
so
the
southern
Avenues
will
update
and.
I
J
A
I
again
I'm,
just
trying
to
summarize
the
two
big
priorities.
I
see,
is
a
to
review
the
Capital
Improvements.
What's
must,
what's
maybe
what
we
can
wait
and
then
really
decide
as
a
group
and
how
much
we're
going
to
fund
the
pension
is
that
are
those
like
the
two
three
I
think
they're
15
and
16
versus
20,
but
I
think
we've
kind
of
we've
settled
that
right
now,
I,
don't
know,
I
mean
we're
starting
even
even
great
sort.
B
F
B
J
K
B
K
A
F
B
J
B
Was
very
helpful
for
me
yeah
yeah,
so
we
can
do
really
good
petitions.
It
can
we
type
you
know,
let's
get
current
calculations
of
where
we
are
on
pension
funding
and
a
goal
at
90
or
a
goal
at
100
and
understand
what
that
does
to
require
contributions
for
next
year
and
is
that
an
acceptable
increase
in
property
taxes?
Maybe.
F
K
H
B
F
B
F
H
J
E
E
Think
that
some
of
the
positions
that
are
requested
and
that'll
be
discussed
with
city
council
is,
is
literally
to
adjust
to
address
priorities
that
the
city
council
has
put
on
them
too.
So
that's
these
positions,
things
like
the
sustainability
positions,
the
Workforce
Development
positions
and
Human
Services,
some
of
the
positions
in
Community
Development
to
help
with
permit
operations
and
residential
plan
review.
I
think
those
are
being
proposed
as
part
of
this
budget
to
start
to
make
progress
and
some
of
those
things.
J
Two
years,
because
this
is
what
we
heard
when
we
were,
we
sat
down
with
each
department
and
I'm
like
why
you
need
this
position.
While
you
eat
that,
and
they
say
we
just
heard
this
complaint
or
request
from
council
member,
we
got
to
have
this
kind
of
service
level.
We
have
to
have
a
permit
done
in
this
man.
Ultimately
council's
call
right.
D
J
J
J
E
J
So
we
have
adjusted
that
two
percent
with
that
I
mean
I.
Don't
think
you
mentioned
that
on
that
side?
Oh
no!
Okay!
So
if
you
see
the
highlighted
thing,
two-person
vacancy
adjustment
of
one
and
a
half
million
dollars
now
in
normal
year,
it
could
be
like
too
aggressive
and
why
I
tell
you
like
if
someone
leave
and
say
okay,
it
took
us
three
months
to
hire
someone
else.
So
now
I
can
say:
okay,
we
saved
the
salary
for
two
months
three
months.
J
B
F
J
E
E
B
J
We
would
hear
it
I
mean
I
would
in
that
case,
because
it
certainly
if
I
go
over
and
the
councils
are
located.
What
kind
of
planning
you
did
it
Council
directs
me
that
you
just
put
the
three
person.
The
one
thing
is.
We
are
in
the
transition
mode
to
hire
more
and
more
people
like
force
Kobe
in
21,
22
and
23..
So,
yes,
that's
why
we
I
cannot
compare
with
the
vacancies
in
21
or
22.
Even
in
the
beginning,
you
know
I
mean
even
we
have
filled
up
so
many
positions.
F
J
Mean
you
might
get
it
too
by
the
end
of
the
year.
I
can
yes,
I
mean
I
can
make
it
to
an
app
person
and
say
yep
extra.
You
know
one-fourth
of
that
so
yeah
around
400
000.
B
E
Of
it's
in
parks
and
rec
with
the
other
ones
kind
of
one-offs
here
and
there.
B
I
J
See
new
fancy,
then
they
say:
yeah
I
mean
I,
see
a
new
hiring
Community
Development.
So
some
of
those
things
the
vacancies
has
gone
down
and
by
the
end
time
we
reached
the
22
I.
Think
yeah
would
have
solved
those
positions,
the
biggest
one
is
a
police
department
and
but
some
of
the
things
like
I,
don't
know
whether
it's
still
public
information.
But
now
we
have
the
what
you
call
the
incentive
for
the
new
police
officer
and
which
would
upset
some
of
those.
K
How
much
is
the
uncertainty
in
the
contract
negotiations
going
to
come
into
play
at
some
point?
I.
J
Mean
here's
the
thing
I
mean
everyone
against
nothing
but
like
when
2020
happened,
and
we
asked
the
other
unions.
You
know
the
city
manager
reach
out
for
their
followers
and
others,
police
and
fire
said
no
fires
that
we
will
defer
until
the
next
year.
Our
increases
fully
said:
no,
we
won't
give
anything
in
so
what
happened
is
non-union
people
and
asked
me
initially
took
the
10
followers.
J
K
E
J
And
fighting
for
that
position,
yeah
and
giving
higher
rates
and
even
keeping
yeah
the
retention,
as
he
said,
kind
of
what
you
call
caving
into
the
Union
demand
so
that
okay,
we
will,
you
know,
be
able
to
keep
the
police
force
so
yeah
you're
right.
We
could
have
a
six-person
increase.
Settle
there
once
it's
all
cylinder.
F
D
Here,
but
that
is
also
reflected
when
you
come
to
Council
on
Monday,
the
17.,
so,
for
example,
we
should
have
those
cips
the
absolutely
necessary
that
you
know
we
could
do
this.
We
could
do
without.
We
need
that.
We
want
that,
for
you
know
we're
directing
you
from
Council
to
the
network.
We
also
want
to
see
I'm
going
to
just
go
with
4.
4.3,
our
professionals,
so
we
are
funding
at
90.
But
if
you.
J
D
B
Don't
why
don't
I
was
thinking,
I
could
take.
Look,
we
can't
do
everything
and
I
was
thinking.
I
would
come
up
with
what
I
think
are
the
five
or
six
major
items
that
we've
talked
about
tonight?
That
we
would
ask
for
additional
discussion
on
right
of
and
we
can
all
agree.
Maybe
what
those
are
we
can't
hit
you
with
100
items
I
understand
that
right,
but
you
know
a
schedule,
a
schedule,
a
bunch
of
contributions,
re-prioritization
of
the
major
capital
projects.
B
Than
that
right,
the
major
major
items
that
we
think
could
make
a
difference
on
this
budget,
because
this
isn't
every
year
thing
you
know
five
ten
years
from
now,
hopefully
be
a
whole
whole
lot
better.
But
right
you
know
how
do
we
make
a
lot
of
incremental
progress
on
the
really
important
items
for
this
budget
and
what
are
those-
and
let's
boil
those
down
to
a
few
areas
that
we
would
want
to
discuss
with
you
further
now?
Is
it
somebody.
D
At
least
from
this-
maybe
not
all
five
but,
for
example,
whether
it's
the
CIP,
the
which
I
requesting
the
file,
though,
but
or
it's
15
versus
20
reserved,
but
at
least
a
couple
of
items
right
now
and
then
I
agree.
We
can
for
more
and
I
think
we
should
be
reading
right
during
wedding
season,
but
I
think
at
least
have
something
brought
forward
to
the
Council
on
Monday.
Something.
What's.
A
B
A
F
B
B
Well,
I'd
like
to
see
what
those
contributions
are
by
year,
so
we
you
know
on
the
path
to
on
the
path
to
2040.
So
we
know
are
we
creating
a
bomb
in
property
taxes?
If
that's
what
we
have
to
raise
private
taxes
or
is
it
kind
of
flat,
yeah
I,
don't
know,
I,
think
it
goes
up
with
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't
know
what.
D
Should
we
determine
that
number
at
least
an
end
will
Flex
rate
from
the
year
and
if
that's
part
of
our
integrating
into
our
budget,
then
we
are
appropriately
more
assessing
our
other
expenditures,
because
if
this
is
something
we
say
absolutely
towards
it's
really
important,
because
that
becomes
that
line
item
that
that's
a
that's
a
no
like.
We
don't
bargain
on.
F
D
That
goes
in
there,
we're
paying
at
this
percentage,
I
would
say
at
100,
and
then
we
appropriately
assess
oh,
we
can
afford
this
this
year.
We
can't
but
I
think
this
is
an
item.
That's
really
important
that
we
start
to
yeah.