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A
So
we'll
keep
on
checking
the
zoom
and
make
sure
she
gets
that
gets
on
the
roll
when
she
returns.
Okay,.
A
My
understanding
is
that,
because
of
a
change
that
occurred
in
state
law,
together
with
the
proclamation
that
I
made
last
week,
I
were
able
to
have
this
meeting
remotely
without.
A
Voting
on
any
motion
related
to
that,
so
we're
just
going
to
proceed
remotely
the
the
change
in
how
we
go
about.
That
is
a
reaction
to
a
change
in
state
law.
I
would
again
just
ask
that
when
council
members
want
to
get
called
on
use
the
raise
for
hand
function
otherwise
we'll
be
in
a
chaotic
situation,
and
if
everyone
is
able
to
have
their
camera
on
when
they're
speaking,
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
as
well,
so
that
folks
can
follow.
What's
what
is
going
on?
A
That
brings
me
to
my
public
announcements
and
proclamations.
I
guess
that
kind
of
was
part
of
that.
I
just
also
wanted
to
share
that.
A
As
of
today,
the
city
has
in
keeping
with
what's
been
done
in
the
city
of
chicago
and
county
and
skokie,
and
some
other
communities
enacted
a
vaccination
mandate
for
attendance
at
certain
locations,
particularly
restaurants
and
bars,
and
gyms.
A
So
there's
more
information
about
that
on
the
on
the
web
page,
but
obviously,
in
light
of
the
frankly
pretty
astonishing
positivity
numbers,
certainly
but,
but
even
also
hospitalization
numbers.
I
I
think
that
that
was
a
prudent
and
important
step,
and
I
want
to
appreciate
the
community
for
thank
the
community
for
your
continued
support
of
these
measures
and
and
cooperation
with
them
to
ensure
that
we're
all
as
safe
as
possible
beyond
that
happy
new
year.
And
that
ends
my
announcements.
F
Hi
good
evening,
members
of
city
council
mike
rivera
parking
manager
for
the
city
of
evanston.
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
brief
update
that
the
parking
services
department
had
worked
with
community
engagement
in
the
month
of
december
to
get
out
some
information
in
e-news
and
in
regards
to
immobilizations
for
unpaid
parking
citations.
F
The
city
of
evanston
has
previously
suspended
immobilization
since
march
of
2020,
and
currently
we
have
amassed
a
a
very
large
list
of
debtors
over
five
thousand
debtors
are
on
that
last
on
that
list,
and
we
decided
as
a
regular
order
of
business
to
start
immobilizations
as
of
december.
Third,
as
of
january
third
of
2022,
and
in
that
communication
we
put
out
a
link,
so
individuals
can
confirm
how
many
citations
they
owe
for
themselves.
F
There
was
also
a
link
in
the
e-news
that
also
provided
information
as
to
why
a
vehicle
could
become
immobilized
and
what
you
have
to
do
to
get
your
vehicle
removed
from
the
mobilization
list.
So
that
is
what
we
wanted
to
get
updated
today.
The
city
council
concerning
the
list.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you
thank
you,
kelly
and
mike
for
for
the
update.
I'm
curious
one
so
well
one
I'd
love
to
hear
mike
if
you
can
share
how
a
person
can
be
removed
from
that
list,
and
I
guess
I'm
also
specifically.
H
Curious,
you
know,
with
an
equity
lens
in
mind,
for
folks.
G
You
know
like
is
there?
Are
there
any
considerations?
You
know
with
covet
hardship
for
for
not
being
on
the
boot
list?
Are
we
yeah
so
maybe
mike?
If
you
can
just
go
in
a
bit
to
a
bit
more
detail
and
then
also
specifically,
when
I
know
I
think
I
heard
you
say
that
the
announcement
was
made
in
late
december.
Is
that
correct.
F
G
F
Sure
I'll
be
brief,
so
typically,
a
vehicle
does
not
become
boot
eligible
unless
they
have
three
and
they
have
a
mass
three
or
more
citations
for
with
the
final
determination
amount
owed.
At
that
point,
once
we
have
the
vehicles
they
have
reached
that
point.
A
E
While
he's
trying
to
reconnect,
I
can
just
say
that
we
do
have
payment
plans
available
for
individuals,
and
the
city
is
working
with
people
that
are
indebted.
The
goal
is
not
to
boot.
The
goal
is
to
try
to
get
everybody
back
into
compliance,
so
the
finance
team,
along
with
the
parking
team,
is
working
with
individuals
mike.
Do
you
have
anything
else
to
add?
Are
you
frozen?
G
I
mean
that
that's
that's
pretty
much
the
dance.
So
if
someone
is
on
this,
you
know
payment
plan
or
whatever
financing
option
is
available.
Are
they
taken
off
of
the
boot
eligibility
eligibility
list
as
they
are
making
payments
or
are
they
still
eligible.
E
G
Okay
and
then
last
question,
thank
you
mayor
best
for
indulging
us
and
how
many
booths
have
we
issued
since
january
3rd.
F
Yeah,
can
you
can
you
hear
me
now,
council,
member,
read
yes,
okay,
perfect,
perfect
yeah,
so
the
go
live
date
was
january
3rd
and
due
to
the
increment
weather,
we
we
made
the
proactive
decision
to
not
immobilize
vehicles
this
week,
so
we
haven't
mobilized
any
vehicles.
The
first
week
of
january
third,
through
today.
G
Okay-
and
I
will
just
add
last
thing-
is
that
I
would
love
for
if
we
have
5
000
folks
on
this
list,
I'd
love
for
us
to
you
know
understand
where
these
households
are.
You
know
again.
Is
there
a
great
number
in
the
fifth
ward
in
the
eighth
ward?
You
know,
I
know
our
two
wards
have
the
highest
rates
of
of
poverty,
and
I
I
would
imagine
that
you
know
the
tickets
track
that
as
well,
and
if
there
is
a
hardship,
I'd
love.
You
know.
I
think
this
is.
G
If
we
can,
you
know,
apply
some
arbor
funds
to
help.
You
know
helping
folks
pay
city
fees,
especially
if
there's
money
that's
owed
to
us
and
we
can
use
arbor
funds
to
cover
that
revenue,
help
build
people
out
and
you
know
sure
up
the
coffers
here.
I
think
that's
a
win-win
for
the
city,
so
I
just
love
to
have
that.
Put
on
the
on
the
on
the
table.
F
Sure-
and
we
have
been
in
the
in-
we
have
collaborated
with
the
city
of
evanston
collector's
office
and
they're,
the
ones
that
would
administer
the
plans
for
us
and
basically,
we
will
follow
what
the
model
is
that
the
the
water
utility
company,
the
water
utility
basically
administers
for
for
plans,
so
people
definitely
showing
a
hardship
due
to
covet
or
or
unemployment
benefits.
Or
you
know,
ssi
benefits
any
people
showing
minimum
financial
responsibility
for
the
for
their
home.
F
They
can
definitely
come
in
and
and
apply
for
a
payment
plan,
and
we
would
also
be
willing
to
work
with
them
to
lower
escalation
fees
that
might
have
been
added
to
the
citations.
I
I
F
Well,
when
we,
when
we
issue
the
letters
to
individuals,
letting
them
know
that
they're
boo
eligible,
we
would
all
it
would
also
say
in
the
letter
that
they
can
call
the
city
of
collector's
office
for
more
information
or
payment
plans,
so
that
that's
something
that
they
would
have
to
do
for
themselves.
They
would
have
to
make
that
make
that
point
of
contact
for
themselves
if
they
would
need
a
payment
plan.
I
Okay,
so
everybody
gets
a
letter
in
the
mail
like
a
week
or
two
weeks
before.
F
People
that
are
indebted
to
the
city
of
illinois
for
not
being
parking
citations
at
this
point
people
what
we're
doing
is
going
back
to
the
list
of
individuals
that
already
have
been
mailed
in
the
past.
So
as
as
people
as
the
list,
populates
and
people
become
eligible,
then
those
individuals
receive
letters.
This
isn't
something
that
we
mass
mail
once
a
month
or
or
every
six
months
or
anything
like
that.
This.
This
is
an
ongoing
event.
As
people
become
eligible,
then
they
receive
the
list.
F
G
Oh
and
so,
even
during
the
pandemic,
when
we
weren't
doing
I'm
sorry,
maybe
I
even
said
I
was
done
and
now
I'm
not
even
during
the
pandemic,
we
were
issuing
folks.
G
To
this
you
know
reins
to
reinstituting
the
policy.
We
were
issuing
letters
just
let
people
know
that
they're,
potentially
boot
eligible.
F
Correct
correct,
we
were
following
the
same
process.
We
would
normally
do
we
just
weren't
immobilizing
vehicles
for
the
past.
You
know
almost
two
years
march
would
be
two
years
that
we
haven't
immobilized
the
vehicle.
G
J
I
Go
ahead,
that's
okay!
I
also
think
we
should
put
out
you
know
as
much
as
we
can
blast
on
the
city
website,
because
it
is
such
an
awful
thing
to
get
a
boot
on
your
car
and
I
think
anything
we
can
do
to
just
say.
You
know
appeal
here.
You
know
if
you've
received
notice
anything
we
can
do
to
apprise
residents
so
that
they
can
avoid
this.
F
And
definitely
I'll
circle
back
with
our
community
engagement
team
and
see
if
we
can
continue
to
keep
doing
a
monthly
blast
through
the
month
of
march.
If
that
makes
sense
for
you
folks.
G
H
You
know
some
kind
of
you
know
if
we
can
provide
as
a
part
of
the
art
for
something
you
know
system,
so
they
can
still
get
around
at
least
temporarily.
You
know
if
this
catches
them
at
a
bad
time
in
the
pay
cycle,
so
their
folks
aren't
losing
jobs
in
this
already
tough
time
because
they
got
their
car.
G
F
F
K
K
A
Thank
you
all
ms
gundersky
is
at
the
end
of
your
great
next
on
the
agenda
is
communications
from
the
city
clerk.
B
B
We
do
have
to
reduce
clerk's
office
hours,
we'll
be
following
the
collector's
office
hours
from
10
to
three
for
in-person
services
and
we're
gonna
do
that
through
through
the
end
of
january,
until
we
hire
new
staff
and
that
will
be
in
a
newsletter,
but
that
is
all
of
my
my
my
public.
My
comments
for
today.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
mendoza.
Of
course
you
make
it's
very
quick
recovery,
I'm
thinking
of
thinking
of
you.
That
brings
us
to
public
comment
today.
Everyone
who
has
signed
up
to
give
public
comments
we'll
be
given
three
minutes,
we'll
begin
with
molly
hartenstein
we'll
be
followed
by
ray
friedman
and
then
mike
basilco.
A
Okay,
we'll
circle
back
then
so
we'll
start,
then
with
ray
friedman
who
will
be
followed
by
mike
lusilco
and
then
nicholas
davis.
L
Good
evening,
mayor
city
manager,
city
council,
happy
new
year
to
everybody
once
again,
can
you
hear
me.
L
We
have
seems
a
whole
lot
more
participation
of
residents
than
we
have
this
year,
wondering
why
that
is,
and
why
is
it
that
we
weren't
able
to
hear
from
the
30?
I
guess
there
was
30
applicants
and
why
we
weren't
able
to
hear
from
any
of
them
when
it
came
down
to.
I
guess,
nine.
Why
weren't
we
able
to
hear
from
any
of
them
so
once
again
the
residents
need
to
be
part
of
the
process
and
the
conversations
and
and
not
just
hear
presentations.
L
L
Number
two.
I
just
want
to
say
real,
quick,
that
with
the
real
bad
weather
that
we
had,
I
really
am
requesting
that
the
city
think
about
cleaning
the
alleys,
the
snow
and
the
ice,
for
I
guess
three
days,
my
alleys,
my
alley
here.
Well,
there's
two
but
they're
just
sheets
of
ice.
So,
first
day
first
night
I
I
could
barely
get
in
my
garage.
I
was
slipping
and
sliding
all
over
it's
it's
a
safety
hazard
for
for
everybody.
L
You
have
the
snow
plows
and
you
know
obviously
there's
plenty
of
money
here,
which
is
my
next
topic
is
a13.
Talking
about.
This
is
10
days
into
the
new
year
and
you're
talking
about
borrowing,
10.9
million
dollars
on
a
new
general
obligation
bond
to
pay
for
granted
their
valid.
You
know
valid
expenses,
no
doubt,
but
those
I
mean
to
me,
you
you
have
the
money
to
spend
on
a
project.
You
save
the
money,
you
have
the
money,
you
know
how
much
money
is
coming
in.
L
We
just
increased
the
budget
by
60
million
dollars
and
now
are
you
talking
about
borrowing
another
10.9
million
dollars
on
general
obligation,
bonds
for
projects
that
haven't
even
been
done
and
the
general
obligation
bond
hasn't
been
started
15
seconds
already?
Okay,
this
is
there's
a
problem
with
that.
So
just
so,
you
all
know
there's
eight
eight
different
items
on
that.
Twelve
point:
nine
million
dollars
that
are
for
consultants,
so
consulting
services
for
six
hundred
and
twenty
five
thousand
dollars.
L
I
would
think
we
can
afford
to
put
some
salt
in
our
alleys
to
make
our
alley
safer.
So
thanks
for
your
time
and
have
a
good
night.
A
M
M
I
can't
believe
we
needed
them
all,
but
nonetheless
none
of
them
have
been
electric
vehicles,
so
evanson
kind
of
talks.
The
talk
we
pat
ourselves
on
the
back
a
lot
about
climate
change
initiatives
and
we
create
a
lot
of
documents,
but
no
real
physical
action.
Each
new
vehicle
is
an
opportunity
to
finally
start
walking
the
walk.
So
I'd
ask
you,
reject
this
purchase
and
find
an
ev
vehicle
that
meets
the
criteria
to
follow
ray.
M
M
The
mayor
and
the
council
should
have
been
objected
if,
if
the
consultant
proposed
this
process
that
you're
following,
but
you
should
have
objected
to
to
the
city
manager
selection
process
on
behalf
of
your
constituents,
rather
you
chose
to
you-
chose
to
limit
citizen
participation.
M
M
The
two
candidates
we
saw
yesterday,
but
we
couldn't
talk
to
may
be
much
better
qualified
than
our
last
chibi
city
managers,
but
that's
a
pretty
low
bar
to
measure
qualifications.
M
M
M
Why
are
they
closed
to?
The
public?
Residents
should
have
at
least
be
able
to
watch
and
listen
live,
and
these
discussions
should
also
be
recorded
15
seconds,
I'm
concerned
about
the
two
candidates
who
spoke
about
their
relationship
and
prior
experiences
with
the
city
of
chicago
and
cook
county
in
my
book.
That's
a
negative,
not
a
plus
speaking
to
the
council
and
to
you,
mr
mayor,
your
collective
campaign.
Promises
for
transparency
have
fallen
quickly
by
the
wayside.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
The
next
speaker
will
be
nicholas
davis,
followed
by
marvin,
lindsey
and
then
marcus
rivera.
A
Can
everybody
hear
me
yes,.
N
Yes,
so
I
just
wanted
to
articulate
a
situation
as
I
see
it
with
the
hiring
back
of
chief
eddington.
So
it
seems
like
from
what
I
can
understand.
This
is
the
same
chief
who
implemented
stopping
first
policies
in
evanston,
where,
as
we
know,
that's
weaponized
against
black
community,
more
than
is
against
anybody
else
disproportionately
and
then
highlight
a
couple
incidents
that
also
happen
like
under
this
person's
watch,
to
understand
why
we
are
bringing
the
same
person
back.
That
was
not
able
to
handle
these
other
situations.
N
So
the
first
one
2017
there
was
a
12
year
old,
who
was
arrested,
actually
followed
into
a
starbucks
and
arrested
in
the
starbucks
for
riding,
not
on
the
bike.
On
the
back
of
the
bike
not
actually
controlling
himself
in
and
out
of
traffic
parents,
weren't
notified
it
wasn't
that
he
was
explaining
the
severity
of
playing
in
traffic
and
the
safety
risk
opposed
to
himself
and
went
off
with
a
warning,
but
our
tax
oliver
used
to
handcuff
and
arrest
his
kid
and
process
him.
N
He
was
also
here
with
councilmember
reed
in
2016,
was
unjustly
harassed
and
arrested.
While
he
was
trying
to
petition
for
city
clerk,
one
of
those
officers
involved
with
that
arrest
is
still
on
the
payroll.
Today
he
was
here
in
2015
when
dr
crosby
was
beaten
and
arrested
in
charge
of
burglarizing
his
own
car,
even
after
the
person
on
the
911
call
like
during
the
call
stated
that
she
might
be
racially
profiling,
she's,
not
sure
about
a
black
man
in
the
hoodie.
N
None
of
the
officers
involved
in
these
situations
were
asked
to
leave
the
department
or
discipline
to
the
knowledge
of
the
public.
So
there's
no
way
that
we
can
know
these
things
are
not
going
to
happen
again
with
the
same
officers.
All
the
officers
from
dr
crosby's
case
still
work
with
epd
right
now,
anthony
correa
brian
hicks,
sean
o'brien,
ivan
reza
are
all
studied
to
make
over
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
2022
from
taxpayer
dollars.
N
I
also
wanted
to
highlight
something
I
found
on
edinson,
where
he
talked
about
evanston
being
a
place
where
you'd
be
held
accountable
for
your
actions
as
a
police
officer.
But
in
the
same
article
he
said
that
it
would
be
a
tough
nut
to
crack
if
an
officer's
case
was
unfounded,
which
a
lot
of
cases
are
left
unfounded
and
that's
their
final
resolution.
And
so
I
wanted
to
understand
why
this
is
an
appointment
that
we're
deciding
to
make
and
also
point
the
person
that
made
the
appointment
city
manager
gandursky.
N
That
her
appointment
itself
was
like
very
questionable
and
talked
about
by
a
lot
of
evanston
residents
and
just
bring
those
things
to
light
and
understand.
Why
we're
continuing
to
bring
people
in
to
the
city,
who
have
already
had
a
record
of
not
doing
what
we
asked
and
not
doing
the
things
that
we're
saying
we're
trying
to
get
on
this
progressive
track
and
make
evidence
more
livable
for
people
and
be
more
equitable.
N
A
O
O
Our
association
represents
90
mental
health
and
substance
use
providers
across
the
state
who
provide
an
array
of
life-saving
services
to
thousands
of
children,
adults
daily,
including
living
room
models
as
an
evanston,
homeowner
and
taxpayer.
I
support
the
city
investing
in
a
living
role
model
for
evidence
at
winston's
residence
from
my
pers
professional
experience.
O
A
I
will
learn
how
to
operate
a
mute
button.
At
some
point.
The
next
speaker
will
be
marcus,
rivera,
followed
by
doreen
price
and
then
laura
montenegro.
P
After
good
evening,
I
would
like
to
speak
about
what
the
living
room
or
the
room
living
room
in
evanston,
to
provide
immediate
care
to
evanstonians
and
mental
health
crisis.
Along
with
that
knowing
and
experiencing
trauma.
P
I
would
like
to
urge
that
the
people
involved,
which
would
normally
be
trauma,
informed
and
educated
as
well
I'd,
say
the
community
at
large
would
benefit
from
understanding
what
caused
it
and
helping
others
who
have
it
self-identified,
because
it's
not
something
that's
easy
to
talk
about,
and
I
know
we
have
a
new
mental
health
board,
so
I'm
sure
they'll
be
doing
more
active
things
in
that
regard.
P
But
in
terms
of
the
council,
it's
itself
I
really
plead
with
each
and
every
one
of
you
to
learn
more
about
ptsd
and
that
multiple
generational
trauma
is
real
in
terms
of
we
know
what
we
know
about
dna
and
how
dna
can
be
modified
by
environmental
cues.
P
So
that's
the
change
in
the
dna
is
something
that
is
makes
things
a
lot
harder
and
so
preventing
trauma
to
begin
with
is
good,
so
anyone
dealing
with
evanston
residents
should
be
trauma
trained
interfacing
because
they
don't
know
who
they'll
be
talking
to
that
may
need
a
helping
hand
and
be
able
to
just
discuss
it
in
terms
differently
than
they
normally
used
to,
for
example,
enforcement,
and
that's
it
for
now,
except
to
say
that
this
is
a
great
initiative
and
I
support
it
with
all
my
heart.
Thank
you.
A
Q
Yes,
yes,
I
I
unmuted
myself,
can
you
hear
me
yeah
sure,
can
okay
well,
I
wanna
I
wanna
discuss
and
I
I
have
to
read
what
I'm
going
to
say.
Let's
see
it's
item
15
and
16.
I'll
try
not
to
read
it.
First
of
all.
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
doing
this
and
being
on
zoom,
so
we
can
all
participate.
Q
I
want
to
support
these
two
liquor
license
issues
in
the
eighth
ward.
One
is
the
shell
gas
station
and
I
want
to
say
that
over
the
years
since
this
station
has
been
open,
it
is
spotless,
the
owners
are
a
family
and
they
have
contributed
immensely
to
various.
Q
Organizations
and
foundations
in
the
city
of
evanston
and
they
have
never
had
any
trouble,
they're
open,
24
hours
a
day,
and
so
you
know
there's
all
sorts
of
possibilities
there
and
they've
just
never
had
any
trouble
they
have.
They
are
very
good
neighbors
to
gordon
foods,
to
the
to
the
sports,
dome,
etc.
And
I
encourage
you.
I
was
at
the
liquor
control
board
meeting
in
perth.
A
I'm
I'm
having
trouble
hearing
is
that,
yes,
it's.
G
A
G
Q
And
can
you
hear
it
and
they
did
support,
and
that
was
the
original
police
up.
A
I
just
you
cut
out
for
quite
a
while
you're
you're
you
were
frozen
and
your
audio
was
off.
Q
I
well
alderman
reed
is
supporting
this
100
and
I
really
appreciate
that
they
tried
to
open
on
numerous
occasions
but
covid
hit.
This
is
the
family
that
owns
libertad
and
skokie.
I'm
sure
many
of
you
have
been
there.
Their
food
is
fabulous.
Q
Q
Anything
better
that
could
happen.
The
howard
ward
8
has
just
reopened
after
being
closed
for
probably
a
year
and
a
half,
and
so
I'm
so
grateful
that
aldrin
reed
is
supporting
this,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
everybody's
support.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
I'm
sorry
about
the
connectivity
issues
there,
but
thank
you
for
for
pushing
through
them.
The
next
speaker
will
be
molly
hartenstein.
I.
R
Hello
council,
I'm
here
to
make
a
statement
on
behalf
of
evanston
fight
for
black
lives
for
over
a
year
and
a
half
evanston
fights
back
lives
has
demanded
that
evanston's
elected
officials
defund
the
evanston
police
department
and
invest
in
life-giving
institutions
for
over
a
year
and
a
half
we
have
been
dismissed
and
lied
to
during
the
summer
of
2020,
the
majority
of
city
and
council
members
supported
reallocating
police
fund
social
services.
R
The
following
november,
the
same
city
council
voted
to
pass
a
budget
that
did
not
cut
police
funding.
This
spring
we
elected
a
new
mayor
and
city
council
and
hoped
they
would
implement
the
progressive
changes
they
spoke
about
on
the
campaign
trail.
Nevertheless,
we
speak
at
the
city
council
meeting
today
with
little
tangible
progress
made
on
defunding
the
evanston
police
department.
R
Just
weeks
ago
we
saw
former
evanston
police
chief,
richard
eddington
sworn
in
as
the
new
interim
police
chief
eddington
was
previously
employed
as
police
chief
between
2007
and
2018,
during
which
a
series
of
reports
of
police,
violence
and
excessive
force
were
released.
While
we
understand
that
no
police
chief
can
dismantle
the
black
the
violence,
anti-blackness
and
harm
that
are
inherent
to
policing,
the
appointment
of
police
chief
eddington
fails
to
deliver
the
progressive
change
and
justice
that
evanston
residents
were
promised.
R
We
would
like
to
once
again
echo
the
words
of
countless
community
members
at
the
special
city
council
meeting
on
december
20th.
Real
violence
reduction
and
prevention
must
focus
on
challenging
conditions
that
create
violence,
poverty,
racism,
educational
disparities,
underfunded,
after-school
programming,
a
lack
of
affordable
housing
and
job
training
and
more.
We
must
stop
investing
in
violent
systems
of
domination
and
tackle
violence
at
its
root.
To
do
this,
we
cannot
regress
by
hiring
folks
who
have
proven
adversarial
to
this
approach.
We
must
defund
epd
and
invest
in
reparations
educational
programming,
housing
and
more.
R
It
is
only
by
taking
care
of
each
other
that
a
just
evanston
is
possible.
We
urge
that
you
really
think
hiring
police
chief
edith,
eddington,
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
The
only
two
remaining
people
requesting
to
speak
are
people
who
I
don't
do
not
see
in
the
zoom,
but
we'll
try
again
are
there
marcos,
rivera
and
laura
montenegro
is
either
marcus,
rivera
or
laura
montenegro
available
to
give
public
comment.
A
A
Second,
council
member
fleming,
moves
item
sp1
for
discussion
council
member
read
seconds,
so
this
is
a
discussion
that
is
built
on
a
lot
of
work.
That's
been
done
by
a
lot
of
different
people
in
the
community
and
on
council
coming
out
really
of
the
alternative
emergency
response
subcommittee,
the
council,
members,
ravel
and
fleming
we're
spearheading
and
so
to
to
begin
the
discussion.
A
We
have
a
few
different
speakers
from
nonprofit
partners
who
have
been
heavily
involved
both
in
that
work
and
this
outgrowth
of
it
to
kind
of
contextualize
the
situation.
So
I'd
like
to
begin
by
asking
patty
capooch
from
impact
behavioral
health
to
share
a
little
bit
about
the
work
that's
been
done
and
what
challenges
that
raises
for
the
community.
S
Great
thank
you
mayor
biss
and
members
of
the
city
council.
As
mayor
best
said,
I'm
patty
capooch,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
impact
behavioral
health
partners
impact
is
an
evanston-based
non-profit.
We've
been
providing
services
to
adults
with
mental
illness
in
the
evanston
community
for
over
33
years,
but
I'm
here
tonight,
though,
as
my
role
as
a
member
of
the
alternative
emergency
response
subcommittee,
just
to
give
a
brief
overview
of
our
work
and
offer
support
for
the
living
room
model
of
care
in
evanston
that
we're
talking
about
tonight.
S
S
We
were
responsible
for
developing
a
non-police
response
to
members
of
the
community
who
needed
immediate
support,
not
of
course
including
life-saving
medical
situations,
or
things
like
that.
We
were
to
review
similar
programs
around
the
u.s,
assess
local
needs,
develop
response
protocols,
develop
staff,
qualifications
and
scheduling
and
then
make
program
recommendations
to
you
at
the
city
council.
The
committee
would
then
continue
to
convene
and
review
the
program
implementation.
S
We
track
progress,
review
outcomes
and
then
we
make
recommendations
for
program,
adjustments
and
long-term
adoption.
So
the
committee
we
held
our
first
meeting
in
september
of
2020
and
immediately
the
committee
recognized
that
the
needs
of
the
community
around
mental
health
are
and
continue
to
be
exacerbate
exacerbated
by
the
kova
19
pandemic.
S
S
S
Our
committee
then
made
decisions
regarding
what
our
model
could
look
like
and
we
issued
a
request
for
proposal
or
rfp,
and
we
didn't
really
have
a
great
response
to
that.
So
we
reached
out
to
a
few
of
the
agencies
that
we
had
presented
to
talk
about
whether
or
not
they
felt
they
could
be
a
good
fit
for
that
program
that
we
were
designing.
But
it
was
at
this
time
that
the
committee
learned
that
the
state
was
looking
to
expand
mental
health
services
and
make
a
greater
financial
commitment
investment
in
mobile
crisis.
S
S
Turning
point
also
informed
us
that
they
collaborate
with
other
evanston-based
non-profits
around
mental
health,
substance
use
and
employment,
and,
as
the
committee
also
talked
to
trilogy
about
the
expansion
for
mobile
crisis,
we
were
then
informed
that
they
had
received
a
statewide
grant.
I
think,
actually,
they
start
their
mobile
crisis
today,
if
I'm
not
mistaken.
S
I
know
there
was
a
lot
of
information,
it's
a
kind
of
condensed
recap
of
the
work
that
we're
doing.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
time
listening
and
if
you
have
questions,
please
let
me
know
and
as
mayor
best
said,
we
have
a
couple
of
folks
on
the
council
who
are
members
of
the
committee
and
we
could
answer
your
questions.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
so
much
that
was
very
helpful
and
it
sort
of
brought
us
to
the
point
that
the
next
speaker
is
going
to
pick
up
from
that's
chris
chris
mayer
from
impact
sorry
from
trilogy
behavioral
health
care,
which
is
a
nonprofit
that
received
one
of
those
state
grants
to,
as
you
indicated,
stand
up
those
mobile
response
units.
T
T
I'm
here
to
present
briefly
on
our
program
and
the
state
grant
under
which
we're
operating
as
well
as
how
a
living
room
program
in
evanston
would
support
our
activities
as
mayor
best
mentioned.
Trilogy
is
a
community
mental
health
center
that
has
been
in
operation
for
50
years,
covering
evanston
skokie
and
the
city
of
chicago
throughout
the
state.
T
The
traditional
crisis
care
system
has
consisted
primarily
of
hospital-based
crisis
workers
and
police
fire
ems
that
respond
to
calls
in
the
community,
as
patty
mentioned,
increases
in
suicide
and
overdose
rates
throughout
the
pandemic
have
led
the
state
to
introduce
funding
for
statewide
mobile
crisis
response
programs
under
grant
program.
590..
T
The
benefit
of
these
programs
is
that
they
provide
immediate
access
to
trauma-informed
crisis
care
whenever
and
wherever
people
may
need
it.
Reducing
cost
to
the
system
unnecessary,
hospitalizations,
traumatization
and
improving
clinical
outcomes
trilogy
and
turning
point
have
both
received
funding
from
the
state
to
implement
mobile
crisis
response
programs.
In
evanston,
once
fully
scaled
trilogy's
program
will
have
a
20-person
department
to
just
respond
to
crises
in
the
community.
24
7
365.,
in
addition
to
covering
all
of
evanston
trilogy,
will
be
serving
servicing
parts
of
skokie
rogers
park,
west
ridge,
edgewater
and
uptown.
T
If
the
participants
current
environment
is
not
safe
or
conducive
to
the
resolution
of
crisis
or
if
the
ideation
is
significant
enough,
that
leaving
them
alone
in
the
community
is
not
a
good
move
but
has
not
risen
to
the
point
where
hospitalization
is
necessary.
Living
rooms
can
provide
a
resource
for
further
support
and
safety.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
and,
as
chris
indicated,
the
next
speaker
and
the
last
speaker
will
be
anne
rainey
without
an
eye
on
her
last
name.
Who
is
the
ceo
of
turning
point?
Who,
as
was
indicated,
have
operated
a
living
room
in
skokie
for
the
last
decade
and,
as
a
result,
have
a
lot
of
expertise
in
this
field?
A
U
U
We've
always
worked
well
together,
but
for
the
past
18
months
our
organizations
have
spent
hours
working
on
a
model
for
alleviating
mental
health
crises
in
evanston.
I'm
very
proud
of
our
commitment
to
this
project
to
each
other
and
to
the
communities
we
serve.
We
are
so
much
more
thoughtful
and
responsive
and
strong
when
we
work
together.
U
So
what
is
a
living
room?
Living
room
is
a
place
for
psychiatric
respite
where
any
adult
in
crisis
is
welcome.
Services
are
free,
the
setting
is
like
our
own
living
rooms
at
home,
with
soft
lights,
comfortable,
seating,
music
places
to
rest
and
at
turning
point,
even
an
aquarium,
and
what
happens
in
this
space?
Well
guests.
Those
are
the
the
titles
that
we
give
to.
People
who
come
in
crisis.
U
What
happens
next
might
depend
upon
a
guest's
description
of
what
they
need
and
how
they
are
feeling
formal
methods
such
as
cognitive,
behavioral
approaches
or
motivational
interviewing
might
be
offered.
So
might
a
lesson
in
mindfulness
or
a
conversation
about
problem
solving
or,
as
I
said,
sharing
experiences
of
crises.
U
U
Priority
is
given
to
hospitality,
providing
an
environment
that
promotes
respect,
calm
and
skilled
response
and
precise
attention
to
what
the
guest
wants
and
needs.
It
also
provides
immediate
access
to
care.
It's
a
no-cost
option
for
people
in
crisis,
available
on
a
walk-in
or
call-in
basis
when
they
need
help.
U
The
second
reason
this
model
is
so
important
is
because
it
is
successful
our
living
room
at
turning
point
in
skokie
just
celebrated
its
10th
anniversary,
as
mirabis
noted,
and
throughout
this
time
we
have
maintained
a
99
success
rate
at
helping
our
guests
resolve
their
issues,
so
they
do
not
have
to
seek
a
higher
level
of
care,
because
this
is
a
confidential,
I'm
sorry,
I've
got
to
back
up
because
it's
confidential
and
restorative
guests
can
return
to
their
homes,
their
families,
their
jobs
and
their
daily
lives.
U
U
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
bring
a
life-changing
alternative
to
mental
health
crisis
care
in
evanston.
Thank
you
to
impact
and
trilogy,
and
peer
and
connections.
Our
colleagues
and
friends.
We
are
so
eager
to
build
on
the
strong
foundation
we've
established
and
to
open
a
living
room
in
evanston.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
to
to
all
three
of
you
to
to
patty
into
christian
to
ann
before
before
I
open
it
up
to
questions
from
from
council.
I
just
want
to
give
a
little
bit
of
sort
of
nuts
and
bolts
of
what's
what's
being
proposed
here.
A
There's
been
a
number
of
different
site
visits
to
potential
locations
and
the
current
proposal
that's
described
in
the
packet
that
I
think
made
the
most
sense
among
the
different
options
that
we
looked
at
is
a
house
and
it's
literally,
a
house
that
sort
of
looks
like
a
house
when
you
get
there.
A
That's
just
behind
saint
francis
hospital,
that's
owned
by
amita.
That
would
require
some
renovation,
and
so
the
idea
is
that
the
the
city
could
rent
it
for
a
you
know,
literally
a
nominal
fee.
You
know
maybe
a
dollar
or
something
for
the
initial
year
as
the
tenant.
A
I
think
there's.
It
might
well
make
sense
for
the
city
out
of
arco,
funding
to
support
the
operating
cost
in
the
initial
year
and
I
think
pretty
much
everyone.
I've
discussed
this
with
has
had
the
feeling
that
it
doesn't
make
sense
for
us
to
utilize
harper
funds
with
the
expectation.
That'll
then
be
a
city
responsibility
over
the
long
term
to
continue
funding
this
and
so
there's
a
number
of
options
to
provide
funding.
We've
had
very
encouraging
discussions
with
polk
county.
A
There
is
a
state
living
room
grant
that
will
be
rebid
in
a
few
years.
There's
obviously
also
other
potential
funders,
but
what
what
I
think
the
city
is
likely
to
be
asked
to
do.
Obviously,
there's
no
vote
today,
but
what
we
might
be
asked
to
do
would
be
to
support
the
renovations
and
then
some
portion
of
the
first
year's
operating
costs
to
get
this
stood
up
and
in
a
position
where
it
would
be
ready,
then
to
rely
on
other
funding
streams.
Moving
forward
with
that,
let
me
open
it
up
and
see.
K
Thank
you
well
one
before
we
start,
I
do
want
to
thank
all
the
members
of
the
alternatives
to
911
subcommittee.
As
patty
said,
we
we
met
actively
for
over
a
year.
The
committee,
just
to
be
clear,
is
still
together.
We
took
some
time
off
just
to
kind
of
work
on
these
kind
of
things
behind
the
scenes,
so
we
didn't
really
have
weekly
information
to
provide,
but
the
committee
is
still
committed
to
coming
back
together.
K
K
I'm
sure
that's
wrong,
but
she's
a
business
owner
she
owns
creative
co-working
downtown,
so
just
to
kind
of
add
a
couple
things
paddy
did
not
mention.
So,
as
I
said,
the
committee
is
still
committed
to
meet
evangeline
in
her
capacity
actually
wrote
like
a
four-page
community
engagement
community
education
strategy
that
we
were
prepared
to
work
with
our
alternative
design,
one
response
staff
to
implement,
so
they
are
still
committed
to
doing
that.
K
Obviously,
both
of
these
services
would
be
new
need
lots
of
community
education
about
how
to
reach
people
what
they
do
and
all
that.
So
that
is
something
the
committee
is
still
planning
or
would
like
to
do
as
well.
As
you
know,
the
peace
patty
mentioned
about
following
up
with
the
service
and
making
sure
it
is
actually
working
in
the
way
in
which
we
need
it
to
work
for
future
contractual
things.
K
Also,
I
just
want
to
mention
that
we
did
have
the
we
still
do
have
the
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
was
allocated
a
couple
years
ago
for
this,
so
we
could
think
about
how
to
use
that.
I
know
there
might
be
there's
still
a
desire
to
support
chris
and
his
team
at
trilogy
with
having
some
staff
that
we
would
employ,
who
would
be
the
peer
services
and
so
there's
a
whole
model
of
care.
K
Where
you
have
you,
you
know
best
practices
have
a
peer
support,
so
people
who
are
recovering
have
life
experience
with
any
kind
of
addiction
or
mental
health
who
actually
would
work
with
our
outreach
team.
So
we
do
think
that's
another
component.
We
want
to
investigate
if
possible,
there
was
talk
about
a
car
for
the
mobile
response,
and
so
that's
another
thing
we
might
want
to
think
about
using
that
funding
for
in
the
future,
but
just
want
to
be
clear
that
the
work
of
the
committee
is
not
finished.
K
If
this
council
still
would
like
to
have
them
meet,
they
are
willing
to
do
that.
Eleanor
and
I
can
work
through
that
and
then
the
last
point
I
want
to
bring
up
is:
what's
the
point
about
joslin
that's
mayor
mentioned,
jocelyn
has
a
living
room
or
has
some
mental
health
services
up
in
north
of
us.
K
They
are
going
to
be
super
important
if
we
bring
them
to
the
table
because
they
provide
youth
sports,
and
we
heard
over
and
over
that
having
some
youth
mental
health
is
super
important
and
and
turning
point
and
truly,
you
have
lots
of
skill
sets,
but
they
don't
really
in
their
capacity
right
now.
Do
a
lot
with
youth
and
jocelyn
has
an
entire
youth
services
program.
So
I
don't
want
us
to
forget
them
and
then
the
last
thing
to
mr
davis
into
evidence
to
fight
for
black
lives.
K
They
are
correct
in
their
call
for
defunding
the
police,
and
actually
our
committee
came
out
of
the
call
from
defunding
the
police
that
we
heard
at
council
several
years
ago.
There
were
some
conversations
at
human
services
and
from
there
we
looked
at
how
do
we
provide
an
alternative
to
police
response
for
some
of
our
citizens,
which
led
to
our
committee,
but
there
was
always
kind
of
that
call
and
our
work
that
was
guided
by
the
residents
who
asked
about
defunding
the
police.
So
we
never
really
got
there.
K
As
patty
mentioned,
this
kind
of
contract
from
the
state
came
up,
but
we
definitely
need
more
funding.
I
definitely
obviously
I'm
I'm
leaving,
but
I'm
definitely
support
of
us
looking
at
how
to
get
more
funding.
If
we
think
of
this
council
thinks
we
want
to
take
that
from
a
police
budget
at
some
point
in
time,
because
it
is
going
to
cost
a
lot
of
money.
As
we
all
know,
mental
health
needs
continue
to
escalate
and
our
responses
continue
to
decline
just
based
on
funding
parameters.
So
I
want
to
throw
that
in
there.
A
Thank
you,
council
member
abell,.
D
Well,
I
just
would
like
to
add
to
council
member
fleming's
comments
about
the
committee
to
say.
First
of
all,
councilmember
fleming
chaired
the
committee.
She
did
a
just
a
really
wonderful
job
of
first
of
all,
identifying
committee
members
and
recruiting
them
for
the
committee.
D
We
had
and
just
really
providing
tremendous
leadership
for
this
whole
year
plus
process
that
we've
been
in
engaged
in
and
as
you've
heard
tonight,
we've
had
wonderful
participation
from
so
many
community
organizations
and
a
lot
of
interest
just
from
regular
community
members
in
our
meetings,
and
I
think
that
broad
community
support
that
we
saw
throughout
this
whole
process
is
going
to
really
be.
D
It
provides
a
really
wonderful
foundation,
I
think,
for
the
effort
going
forward,
both
for
supporting
trilogy
and
ultimately
turning
point
if
they
have
in
terms
of
the
crisis
response
program
and
also
setting
up
the
living
room
and
really
making
that
a
key
part
of
our
community
response.
So
it's
it's
been
really
gratifying
to
see
where
we
are
now
after
getting
started
in
2020,
I'm
I'm
very
encouraged
about
where
we're
going
in
evanston
and
then
just
the
whole.
D
The
whole
country
seems
to
be
recognizing
the
need
to,
as
ann
rainey
mentioned,
get
the
right
response
to
the
right
person
to
the
right
place
at
the
right
time.
I'm
just
really
excited
to
see
us
move
forward
with
this
with
our
living
room
and
support
the
program
going
forward.
V
Yeah
I
just
first
wanted
to
to
thank
my
colleagues
who
I
believe
started
this
work
during
the
last
term,
and
you
know
I've
tried
to
do
my
part
to
to
add
some
value
to
the
conversation
and
under
the
leadership
since
I've
been
in
office
of
the
mental
health
task
force,
who
some
of
the
members
of
that
task
force
are
here
with
us
tonight.
You
know
this
is
a
a
personal
issue
to
me
in
that
you
know
my
teenage
in
early
20s.
V
I
struggled
with
mental
health
issues,
in
particular
depression
bouts
with
depression
and
and
anxiety
attacks,
and
thankfully
it
wasn't
severe
to
the
point
that
I
was
institutionalized
because
of
it,
but
it
certainly
led
to
some
some
voluntary
emergency
room
visits
where
I
did
not
feel
like.
I
ever
received
the
the
support
I
needed
and
and.
J
V
Your
situation
is
not
an
emergency
you're
not
going
to
die.
You
should
leave
here
right.
That
was
the
feeling
I
got
entering
that
space
and
I'm
and
I'm
sure
others
who
have
struggled
with
anxiety,
attacks,
panic
attacks,
etc.
Have
also
tell.
V
Personal
to
me,
which
is
why,
again
under
the
leadership
of
the
mental
health
task
force,
I've
gone
out
to
all
the
living
room
sites
that
that
were
available
to
meet
with
us
recently.
So
you
know
turning
point
being
one
and
went
out
to
the
joslin
center
in
northfield
and
physically
visited
that
site,
as
well
as
physically
visited
the
noni
site
and
lagrange
and
and
lagrange
being,
I
think,
one
of
the
larger
ones.
Turning
point
was
pretty
big
as
well,
but
I'm
really
excited
about
the
program.
V
I
think
it
can
work
perfectly
in
tandem
with
the
mobile
crisis
response
that
that
trilogy
is
contracted
by
the
state
to
provide
here
in
evanston
and
more
broader
than
evanston,
as
well
as
as
they
described.
I
would
say
my
my
only
preference
is
by
saying
you
know.
V
I
asked
my
colleagues
just
to
be
a
little
patient
with
some
of
the
newer
council
members
who
weren't
able
to
participate
in
some
of
those
discussions,
but
do
want
do
have
some
opinions
on
this
matter
and
and
mine
really
boils
down
to
making
sure
that
that
it's
the
right
size.
So
many
of
the
centers,
the.
V
Time
when
mental
health
treatment
wasn't
what
it
is
today,
as
I
think
somebody
said,
there's
been
this
real
surge
of
focus
and
attention,
rightfully
so
on
mental
health
treatment,
and
I
think,
as
councilmember
fleming
just
also
mentioned,
that
there
is
the
need
has
escalated
and
I
think,
in
a
place
like
evanston,
where
we
have
mobile
crisis.
You
know
mobile
intervention
coming
to
evanston,
where
we
have
a
robust
social
service
agency
that
will
make
referrals
to
this
living
room.
V
I
think
it
needs
to
be
a
bit
larger
than
some
of
the
other
sites
that
I've
seen
again
in
turning
point
being
one
that
was,
I
think,
even
larger
than
what
we're
looking
at
here
I
did.
I
was
able
to
pull
it
up
on
google
map
and
the
overall
site
is
large.
The
bunk
below
is
one
floor,
but
it
has
a
really
nice
backyard.
V
My
questions
really
are
one:
there's
a
there's:
some
open
space
next
to
the
site,
that's
kind
of
shaped
in
a
toots
triangle,
type
parcel.
Is
that
also
owned
by
saint
francis,
or
is
that
owned
by
someone
else.
A
I
definitely
don't
know
the
answer
to
that
question.
I
don't
know
that
anyone
from
amita
is
on
this
call,
but
that's
if,
assuming
that
I'm
looking
in
the
zoom,
I
believe,
they're,
not
so
that's
something
that
we
can
look
into
and
get
back
to.
You.
V
Yeah,
so
that
that
would
be
my
question,
is
you
know
one
is
pulling
my
nose
here,
there's
a
again
there's
a
parcel
next
to
the
site
that
is
vacant
and
wondering
if
it
is
owned
by
saint
francis
or
no
matter
whom
is
owned
by
if
there's
a
opportunity
for
us
to
expand
the
living
room
into
that
space
as
well-
and
I
I
should
say
this
that
I'm
looking
at
google
map,
it
might
be
an
old.
You
know,
map
view.
So
I
don't
know
if
it's
something
there
now
for
still
faking.
V
But
that's
a
question
I
have
and
then
also
is,
is
the
only
option
to
lease
the
property.
V
Option
not
that
we
would
go
in
that
direction,
but
I'm
just
curious
about
where
amita
saint
francis
is:
are
they
only
willing
to
lease?
Are
they
willing
to
consider
selling
the
property?
Can
can
the
renovations
go
beyond
that,
and
can
we
redevelop
the
site
into
a
center
where
we're
not
limited
by
the
floor
design
of
the
bungalow,
but
we
can
think
a
lot
bigger
than
that.
V
So
again,
can
it
go
beyond
renovations
into
redevelopment
on
the
site,
even
even
under
the
lease
option
and
and
then,
as
a
zoning
matter
is,
if
we
did
kind
of
build
a
facility
redevelop
into
a
facility?
V
Is
that
area
zone
correctly
for
it
and
and
then
just
curious
about
what
some
of
the
monthly
unique
visits
are
at
at
turning
point
at
its
highest
point,
because
I
know
there
was
a
down
period
and
I
think
I
saw
in
the
memos
288
visits
and
we
had
a
question
even
when
we
toured
to
say
is
that
number
unique
visits
and
I
don't
think
it
was
I'm
just
I'm
curious
at
turning
points,
pete
and
skokie,
what
the
unique
visits
annual
unique
visits
were,
and
that
is
all
thank
you.
A
Let
me
answer
the
questions.
I
can
and
then
hand
it
over
to
ann
for
the
questions
she
can
answer
and
that
may
cover
everything
it
may
not
the
one
I
know
for
sure,
because
I
looked
it
up,
is
the
zoning
the
build
the
bungalow.
Is
it's
zoned
like
the
hospital
it?
Doesn't.
The
zoning
doesn't
sort
of
know
the
difference
so
that
that's
pretty
straightforward?
A
You
know
anita's
interest
here.
Is
it's
not
like
a
real
estate
play
like
they
want
to
be
a
partner?
They
see
this
as
beneficial
to
them.
If
this
works
properly,
it
relieves
pressure
on
their
emergency
department
in
a
pretty
serious
way,
and
so
they're
they're
not
sort
of
leasing
it
for
the
rent,
they're
trying
to
be
a
partner
and
standing
this
thing
up
and
making
it
work
would
they
be
unwilling
to
purchase
it?
A
If
that
were
the
direction
folks
wanted
to
go
so
to
allow
someone
to
purchase
it,
I
don't
know
I
can't
speak
to
that,
but
I
think
they
they
really
want
to
be
at
the
table,
and
they
see
this
as
part
of
what
they're
trying
to
accomplish
as
well.
V
Just
to
jump
in
just
so
you
it's
clear,
I'm
only
thinking
about
if,
if
the
lease
agreement
limits
us
on
how
we
can
redevelop
the
site,
if
we're
yeah
limited
to
the
bungalow
as
is
or
can
we
go
beyond
that
in
the
current?
You
know
in
the
proposed
lease
agreement,
yeah.
A
I
know
that
lara
and
shane
are
both
in
the
call
and
they
they
were
participated
in
one
of
the
site
visits.
Certainly
in
the
in
the
conversations
I've
had
with
the
facilities
folks
from
amita
they've,
never
indicated
here's
what
you
can
do,
here's
what
you
can't
do,
but
I
have
to
say
the
implication
was
that
we
wouldn't
be
talking
about
tearing
the
thing
down
and
building
something
totally
different,
and
so
I
certainly
don't
feel
comfortable
committing
at
this
moment
on
behalf
of
them
that
they're
that
they're
willing
to
go
with
with
anything.
A
I
think
it'd
be
interesting
to
hear
from
anne
and
the
others
about
kind
of
what
different,
what
size
means
and
what
what
different
models
might
mean
as
well,
and
what
the
you
know
the
cost
benefit
of
doing
something
like
that
is,
but
I
know
that
I
see
lara
just
turned
on
her
camera.
Did
you
want
to
jump
in
laura.
B
B
I
wasn't
sure
which
lot
council
member
burns
was
referring
to,
but
basically
the
bungalow
is
just
included.
It's
not
a
separate
pin
number
from
the
hospital,
it's
just
hospital
property
and
anything
to
the
north
or
west
of
it
is
just
hospital
property
and
everything
to
the
east
and
south,
I
think,
is
owned
by
private
residents.
V
B
I'm
not
sure
the
house
itself
is
in
the
southeast
corner
of
the
hospital
property
and
there's
like
it's
on
a
diagonal
driveway
street
that
hooks
into
elmwood.
So
the
house
has
an
elmwood
address
and
north
of
it
is
a
vacant
area.
U
Do
and
I
do
remember,
council
member
burns
when
you
visited
us,
we
were
excited
about
the
idea
of
bringing
other
organizations
into
a
space
and
working
cooperatively
and
I've
always
dreamed
of
having
a
sort
of
incubator
space.
Where
someone
came
into
the
living
room.
U
With
concerns
about
drug
use,
we
would
have
a
peer
services
member
there
to
talk
to
them
and
if
they
were
having,
if
they
had
unstable
housing,
we
might
have
a
connection
staff,
member
and
workforce
impact
and
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
didn't
share,
but
I
I
think
it
would
be
a
good
time
to
share
it.
Is
I
want
to
say
that
impact
and
peer
are
working
out
of
our
skokie
building
right
now,
it's
one
of
their
sites,
and
so
we're
used
to
this
sort
of
thing,
and
I
I
do.
U
On
the
other
hand,
I
I
I
think
that
when
we
saw
the
the
building
the
bungalow
at
saint
francis,
it
felt
right.
It
felt
like
the
kind
of
of
welcoming
place
that
a
living
room
would
be
really
suited
for,
and
it
does
have
a
little
more
space.
U
So
that's
those
are
my
thoughts
about
space,
but
but
in
terms
of
your
specific
question,
we
had
290
unique
visits
to
our
turning
point
site
in
fy21,
so
that
would
be
july
of
20
to
june
of
21..
That
was
during
covid.
U
We
were
only
open
for
25
hours
a
week,
we're
now
open
56
hours
a
week,
so
I
think
we'll
see
a
change
in
those
numbers
and
what
we're
proposing
in
evanston
is
that
56-hour
week
currently
in
skokie
we're
open
from
12
noon
until
8
o'clock
at
night
every
day.
U
V
You
know
I
just
this
is
the
final
thing
I'll
say
is
that
again
I
I
think
there's
something
to
the
fact
that
some
of
the
other
facilities
were
created
at
the
time
when
there
wasn't
as
much
respect
and
or
attention
and
respect
around
the
importance
of
this
work,
and
now
it
is,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
we.
J
V
That
are
born
out
of
houses
and
church
basements,
and
but
you
know
that
doesn't
have
to
be
the
origin
story
here.
We
can
create
something
bigger
better
that
that
addresses
the
needs
of
this
community.
That
has
has,
you
know,
been
underserved
and
that's
struggling,
especially
during
this
pandemic.
So
but
thank
you,
ann
and
mayor
bish
for
financing
these
questions,
that
is
on.
A
Dude
next
is
council
member
newsman,
followed
by
wynn,
and
I
I
saw
councilmember
kelly
had
her
hand
up
at
one
point:
it's
back
down
now,
but
if,
if
you
want
to
speak,
he'll
be
right
behind
council
number,
one.
C
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
will
be
happy
to
share
my
thoughts
here,
which
will
echo
a
lot
of
what
has
already
been
said,
but
I'm
really
supportive
of
this
concept,
and
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
everyone.
That's
that's
been
involved
thanks,
especially
to
folks
like
patty
and
chris
and
anne,
for
the
work
you're
doing
in
this
space
every
day
on
an
ongoing
basis.
C
I
think
the
world
needs
more
people
like
you,
but,
and
also
thanks
to
the
council,
members,
council,
member
fleming
and
council
member
ravel
for
kind
of
bringing
us
along
to
this
point.
C
So
I
am
absolutely
supportive
of
this,
and
I
think
this
is
a
perfect
use
of
arpa
money
to
not
only
you
know,
invest
in
the
upfront
capital
expenses,
but
I
have
no
problem.
You
know
fronting
some
initial
operating
money,
but,
as
mayor
bist
said
in
his
introductory
statements,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
long-term
sources
of
revenue
identified
so
that
this
whole
thing
doesn't
go
off
the
rails
in
a
year
or
two
when
the
harp
of
money
runs
out.
C
So
I
know
you're
already
working
on
that
in
terms
of
an
artbot
context
and
somewhat
as
an
aside
here.
I
think
this
is
also
an
indication
that
we
need
to
use
some
of
that
arpa
money
to
invest
in
economic
development,
so
we
can
have
some
ongoing
sources
of
revenue
for
our
community
that
we
can
use
to
support
good
good
work
like
the
like
the
living
room
concept.
So
I'm
also.
C
I
also
want
to
talk
about
the
partnerships
and
we've.
We've
mentioned
a
lot
of
different
organizations
here,
amida
turning
point
trilogy
impact
peer
connections,
jocelyn
not
to
mention
the
city
of
evanston,
so
I
would
want
to
be
clear,
moving
forward
whose
living
room
this
is
from
a
management
and
administration
standpoint.
C
So
we
don't
find
ourselves
pointing
fingers
at
each
other
at
some
point
down
the
road
when
individuals
who
are
involved
at
this
point
have
moved
on
to
other
roles
and
maybe
other
organizations,
so
I'd
want
to
make
sure
we
are
fairly
clear
as
to
who's
in
charge
of
what
and
who's
responsible
for
what
also
talking
about
partnerships
I
this
is
a
question,
maybe
that
some
of
the
folks
can
answer
tonight.
But
what
role
would
the
evanston
police
department
and
the
evanston
fire
department
our
current
public
safety?
C
You
know
not
the
alternative
to
911,
but
what
you
get
when
you
call
today,
what
role
would
they
have
in
sending
people
to
the
living
room?
It's
there?
Would
there
have
to
be
some
communication,
some
coordination
there.
So
has
this
been
part
of
the
discussion
so
far,.
A
Let
me
first
answer
your
previous
question,
so
the
answer
to
the
previous
question
about
kind
of
who's
responsible
would,
in
this
proposed
model,
be
turning
point
with.
You
know.
Yes,
these
other
relationships
and
deep
partnership,
but
really
it
would
be
operated
by
turning
point
with
the
responsibility
that
it
comes
with
and
part
of
the
purpose
of
having
the
city.
Take.
A
Control
of
the
property
for
the
initial
year
is
to
enter
into
the
memorandum
of
understanding
with
the
different
groups
to
lay
out
clearly
in
black
and
white,
who
has
what
responsibility
and
who's
accountable
for
what
so
we
don't
wind
up
in
the
situation
we
described,
I
think,
in
a
utopian
world
contemplated
by
the
new
state
law.
A
The
911
dispatch
system
across
illinois
will
be
changed
so
that
the
police
won't
wind
up
fielding
calls
that
are
more
properly
understood,
as
mental
health
calls.
I
think
we
understand
realistically
that
this
is
not
there's
not
a
switch,
that
somebody
can
flip
somewhere.
That's
going
to
make
that
happen
and
in
reality,
there's
going
to
be
plenty
of
overlap,
and
this
this
would
have
to
be
done
in
partnership
with
the
police,
and
it
would
be,
I
think,
a
really
really
critical
resource.
K
One
there's
this
vacuum
chime
in
there
too,
in
terms
of
the
research
we
did
as
a
committee
part
of
our
plan.
If
we
had
actually
run
the
alternative
response
model
was
to
work
with
to
bring
in.
Oh
eleanor,
help
me
out
what
are
their
names
kahoots,
the
agency
that's
been
doing
this
forever.
K
They
now
do
training,
and
so
we
had
already
matched
them
up
with
our
911
dispatch
team
to
talk
through
doing
some
training
of
our
dispatch
staff
in
terms
of
how
they
can
better
triage
calls
that
come
in
to
know
if
they
are
police,
buyer,
you
know
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
then
part
of
our
plan
was
to
have
them
obviously
work
with
the
number
one
response
team
to
figure
out
just
transport
and
all
now
what
we
what
we
talked
about
before
chris
was
here
when
we
talked
to
trilogy
about
the
contract.
K
We
also
talked
about
outfitting
the
response
team
with
cars,
which
would
also
have
our
police
kind
of
mobile
units
in
them,
and
so,
if
they
didn't
respond
to
a
call
that
needed
actually
police
or
fire,
they
could
you
know
be
in
touch
with
folks
by
you
know
very
quickly,
as
well
as
police
empire.
Responding
could
be
in
touch
with
our
mobile
response.
People,
because
we
know
there's
going
to
be.
You
know,
there's
always
overlap.
K
I
would
assume,
obviously
now
that
the
state's
taking
that
over
chris
is
working
with
the
state
chris
correctly
wrong
for
a
988
number
or
some
other
number,
that
the
state
would
kind
of
run
to
help
field
calls.
But
I
do
think
we
still
need
to
think
through
how
we
can
train
our
911
dispatchers
to
just
again
better
triage
calls.
T
Yeah
so
actually
nationwide,
this
988
number
is
rolling
out,
which
is
a
mental
health
crisis,
number
that
anyone
nationwide
can
call
for
telephonic
crisis
support
and
in
illinois.
That
number
is
going
to
be
directly
connected
to
these
mobile
response
teams
throughout
the
state,
and
so
that
doesn't
necessarily
mean
9-1-1
diversion
that's
sort
of
a
separate
choice
that
someone
is
making
to
call
that
number
as
opposed
to
9-1-1.
So
the
state's
program
as
they
conceptualize
doesn't
necessarily
involve
9-1-1
diversion,
but
it
also
doesn't
limit
communities
from
working
with
their
programs
to
set
that
up.
C
T
T
You
know,
I
think,
there's
a
fair
number
of
evanston
residents
that
you
know
are
sort
of
like
keyed
into
mental
health
and
we'll
seek
to
use
the
988
number.
But
right,
that's
one.
C
Of
our
concerns,
so
the
9-1-1
operators
would
need
to
be
trained,
as
council
member
female
fleming
just
said,
to
kind
of
do
some
triage
at
their
level
dispatch
make
a
decision
and
dispatch.
You
know
the
police,
if
that
was
indicated
or
the
mental
health
crisis
team.
If
that
was
indicated,
I'm
sure
there
will
be
a
case
where
they
earn
the
side
of
caution,
perhaps
and
send
the
police
the
police
show
up
and
realize
that
mental
health
professionals
are
more
appropriate
for
a
particular
situation.
T
This
correctly
yeah,
that's
correct.
I
also
sort
of
want
to
be
very
direct
about
how
that
level
is
sort
of
a
very
significant
step
from
how
the
program
is
conceptualized
by
the
state
and
the
way
that
9-1-1
call
centers
operate
as
well
as
the
response
time.
That
would
be
needed
in
order
to
do
9-1-1
diversion
as
opposed
to
what
we're
doing,
is
sort
of
a
very
different
thing
and
like
a
a
long-term
infrastructure,
would
need
to
be
set
before
that's
something
that
could
really
be
implemented.
C
Yeah,
so
we
have
a
ways
to
go
before
this
is
fully
realized,
but
I
think
we're
on
the
on
the
right
track
here
and
just
a
couple
of
practical
questions.
Council
member
burns
already
addressed
the
zoning
question
and
just
to
clarify
we
are
not
contemplating
this
as
an
overnight
facility.
C
It's
short
term
for
a
few
hours,
you
go
back
home
or
you
go
somewhere
else
before
the
facility
closes.
U
U
One
thing
that
I
want
to
share
from
having
the
living
room
in
skokie
for
10
years
is
that
we
have
become
very
good
friends
with
our
first
responders,
and
so
one
of
the
things
I
think
you'll
find
as
we
come
into.
Evanston
is
we'd
really
like
to
talk
to
you
about
who
we
should
be
talking
to
will
really
want
to
establish
relationships
where
we
can.
We
can
be
trusted
members
of
the
community
and
ask
people
what
they
need
and
how
they
need
it.
U
When
we
started
in
skokie,
we
started
with
focus
groups,
and
that
would
be
our
intention
in
evanston
to
have
a
series
of
focus
groups
where
residents
and
professionals
and
first
responders
would
tell
us
what
they
need
and
how
they
need
it.
And
when
you
do
that,
then
something
happens
where
people
begin
to
really
understand
what
the
living
room
is,
and
they
have
a
sense
of
when
it
can
be
useful.
U
So
we
have
police
and
and
firefighters
in
in
skokie
who
are
sending
people
to
us,
because
they
know
that
that
would
be
a
suitable
place
for
them.
And-
and
I
think
I
want
to
make
that
pledge
to
you-
that
we
will
do
that.
And
I
know
that
chris
and
their
team
will
also
be
learning
about
the
community
and
together
a
turning
point
and
trilogy
will
be
sharing
those
sorts
of
relationships
so
that
we
really
have
a
strong
connection.
C
And
so,
if
properly
executed,
this
will
be
lightening
the
burden
on
on
the
police
department
and
the
fire
department.
Our
current
public
safety.
U
Absolutely
we
have
a
crisis
program
at
turning
point,
so
we
we
have
worked
a
lot
with
with
our
police
and
fire
and-
and
I
know
that
they
feel
relieved
of
some
of
the
crises
that
are
crises
to
a
resident,
but
really
probably
don't
meet
the
criteria
of
a
proper
first
responder
call
and
to
be
able
to
make
an
endorsement
of
a
service
like
the
living
room.
Often
alleviates
them
with
a
lot
of
pressure.
U
I
also,
I
also
want
to
say
that
it's
important
to
to
try
to
differentiate
what
we're
doing
from
what
jocelyn
is
doing.
There's
no
fee
for
a
living
room
service.
There's
it
truly
is
a
walk-in
call-in
service
and
I'm
not
sure
what
jocelyn
is
doing,
but
but
their
youth
programming
plan
is
very
different
from
an
adult
respite
living
room.
A
Thank
you.
So
next
is
council
member
wynn,
followed
by
kelly,
followed
by
reed.
W
Thank
you,
mayor
biss.
I
I
have
a
very
bad
cold
everyone,
so
please
bear
with
me
and
I
apologize
for
having
my
video
off,
but
it's
just
better.
That
way.
I
first
I
want
to
thank
the
the
members
of
the
committee
for
this
and
this
really
important
discussion,
and
I
think
this
is
one
of
the
best
things
that
the
city
has
embarked
on
in
a
long
time,
and
also
thank
you
to
my
fellow
council
members
for
all
the
questions
that
they've
just
asked.
W
I
I,
as
all
any
of
us
who
have
ever
been
to
an
emergency
room
knows
they
are
not
calm
places
where
you
get
instant
care
by
people
who
will
calm
you
down.
I
mean
they
they're
designed
to
do
something
else,
so
I
I
think
that
this
is
a
brilliant
idea
and-
and
I
really
look
forward
to
the
implementation
of
this
and
the
expansions
that
we
have
just
been
talking
about
and
the
partnerships.
W
This
is
very
much
needed
in
the
community
and
certainly
will
be
very
welcome.
So
thank
you
to
everyone.
Who's
worked
on
this.
A
Thank
you
so
now
I'll
have
council
member
kelly,
followed
by
read,
followed
by
bracelet.
I
Yeah,
I
also
feel
very
I'm
very
supportive
of
this.
This
seems
like
a
really
needed
addition
to
our
city
and
most
of
the
questions
that
I
had
were
also
answered.
I
had
one
question:
I
assume
this
is
seven
days
a
week.
It'll
be
open
all
right.
Okay!
Yes,
wonderful!
Thank
you!
H
Let
me
keep
my
camera
off
as
well.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
again
to
my
colleagues
who
have
led
on
this
council
member
fleming
and
ravel,
particularly
as
well
as
the
committee
members,
and
I
want
to
thank.
T
H
Know
councilmember
burns
for
sharing
his
personal
story.
You
know
anxiety
the
attacks
when
you're
a
teenager-
I
I
think
I
might
be
in
the
living
room
as
soon
as
it
opens
with
some
of
the
stuff
that
goes
on
here
so,
but
I
I'm
just
really
thankful
to
the
whole
team.
I
had
the
opportunity
to
visit
the.
I
believe
it
is
turning
point.
The
living.
H
Yes,
it
has
the
train
living
room,
so
I'm
that
was
my
first
time
witnessing
you
know
one
of
these
models
in
person,
and
that
was
a
very
eye-opening
opportunity
and
I
got
to
vicariously
live
through
council
member
burns
and
other
community
leaders
who
were
able
to
attend
the
other
few
walkthroughs
so
extremely
excited
about
this.
H
Looking
forward
to
supporting
this
really
glad
that
it's
gonna
be
in
the
eighth
ward
and
really
excited
I'm
I'm
sure,
eighth
warders
are
gonna,
be
welcoming
to
this
new
facility,
and
this
will
be
a
great
addition
to
our
community.
So
thank
you
for
all
the
work
that
has
been
done
and
I'm
just
really
really
excited
about
that
I'll.
Add
someone
separately
about
988
rolling
out.
I
know
that
will
be
fully
online
in
july.
H
I
believe,
but
that
is
also
a
very
exciting
addition
to
creating
a
full
wraparound
service
for
folks
who
are
experiencing
mental
crisis
in
our
community.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
council
member
greathway,.
X
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
as
well
as
all
of
our
community.
Let
me
turn
this
on
sorry.
X
All
of
our
community
partners
that
are
that
are
on
the
call,
as
well
as
the
council
members
who
who
took
lead.
I
unfortunately
haven't
had
an
opportunity
to
to
visit
these
sites,
but
I
find
it
a
very
interesting
concept,
just
as
I've
had
an
opportunity
to
read
through
the
memo
as
well
as
looking
online,
and
I
also
feel
that
it,
it
has
a
real
huge
potential
in
terms
of
a
cost
savings
just
from
our
hospitals
on
on
down.
So
I
guess
the
couple
of
questions
that
I
have
are
really
basic.
X
So
I
I
think,
we'll
get
to
the
ask
in
terms
of
how
we're
going
to
move
this
thing
forward,
and
and
with
that,
my
questions
are:
is
there
going
to
be
a
staff
leading
this
effort
or
a
department?
That's
going
to
be
assigned
to
to
work
with
our
community
partners.
X
Is
I
feel
that,
after
taking
care
of
the
homeless,
there
are
more
people
that
I
see
that
I
don't
recognize
prior
to
the
pandemic
that
are
still
here
in
evanston,
and
it's
no
secret
that
we've
seen
an
increase
in
crime
so
that
my
my
overall
question
is:
how
are
we
going
to
prioritize
evanston
residents
and
make
sure
that
evanston
residents
are
a
focal
point
and
if
this
does
become
a
magnet
for
others
coming
from
outside
the
community,
which
is
you
know,
a
very
human
thing
and
a
natural
thing
to
happen?
X
How
are
we
going
to
deal
with
that?
We
have
a
a
facility
that
myself
councilmember
newsmen
win.
I
won't
name
their
name
on
on
main
and
ridge
that
it's
it's
very
visible
who
the
clients
are,
and
you
know
you
can't
do
anything
about
clients
who
hang
out
in
a
public
park.
However,
at
some
point
in
their
history-
and
I
don't
believe,
councilmember
nusmo
or
kelly
can
answer
this
question-
that
they
changed
their
you
know
who
they
were
serving
and
as
a
result
of
that,
we've
seen
a
little
bit
more
activity
in
our
town.
X
So
as
we
get
past
this,
you
know
beginning
phase
and
and
hopefully
as
it
implements
I'm
assuming
that
there
just
needs
to
be
real,
clear
control
over
who
you're
serving
and
if
there
is
an
expansion
of
services
and
people
that
our
city
is
is
very
much
our
city
staff
is
is
knowledgeable
of
that.
I
mean
the
other
thing
that
I
would
just
share
in
terms
of
opportunities
for
funding.
I
think
the
hospitals
represent
a
really
good
good
source
of
money
when
we
opened
erie.
X
There
are
some
huge
opportunities
for
funding
and
it
sounds
like
you
already
have
saint
francis
hospital
at
the
table,
and
so
those
are
just
the
questions
that
I
would
love
to
see,
answered
and
addressed
prior
to
us
moving
with
a
financial
commitment.
Thank
you.
A
I
know
that
I
mean,
obviously
you
know
ms
gandersky
is
in
the
zoom
and
she
may
be
able
to
speak
to
kind
of
how
what
city
department
and
what
the
nature
of
the
interaction
with
city
staff
would
look
like,
and
I
would
imagine
anne
has
some
reactions
to
some
of
the
other
questions
as
well
kelly.
Do
you
want
to
go
first.
E
Sure
we
would,
I
mean,
obviously
this
would
be
like
several
departments.
We
have
to
interact
with
health
and
human
services.
Obviously,
police
fire
it'd
be
the
coordination
of
multiple
city
departments
and
I
think
we
have
to
work
out
the
logistics
of
all
of
that.
But
I
see
this
being
something
that
we
would
integrate
across
multi
departments.
U
Yes,
in
in
terms
of
hours,
I
I
would
suggest,
although
I
think
we'd
want
to
really
discuss
this
with
evanston,
that
the
hours
be
the
same
as
our
hours
in
our
skokie
location,
which
is
from
12
to
8..
U
That
would
allow
people
to
have
a
familiarity
with
when
we
tend
to
be
open
what
our
services
tend
to
be,
because
we
we
wouldn't
be
looking
at
vastly
different
client
profiles
or
services
offered
we'd,
be
wanting
to
offer
everything
we
could
to
anyone
who
came
in,
and
I
I'm
glad
to
hear
the
question
about
an
ideal,
client
and
actually
in
in
the
10
years.
We've
done
this
nobody's
ever
asked
me
that
before.
J
U
It's
it's
really,
it's
it's
a
great
opportunity
to
say
we
see
individuals
from
all
over
the
spectrum
of
problems
and
illnesses
and
life
changes,
and
I
mean
that
very
respectfully.
We've
we've
seen
guests
who
have
been
in
a
very
serious
car
accident
or
have
narrowly
avoided
a
very
serious
car
accident
and
they're
upset
and
they're
anxious,
and
they
can't
settle
down.
We've
seen
people
with
chronic
and
severe
mental
illness
who
just
have
trouble
managing
from
day
to
day
today
and
often
need
a
little
extra
support
to
keep
going.
U
We've
seen
parents
of
adult
children
who
have
severe
mental
illness
and
we've
seen
children
whose
parents
have
severe
mental
illness.
So
there
are
often
family
ties.
There
may
be
someone
who
has
lost
a
job
or
has
been
kicked
out
of
an
apartment
or
is
having
a
relationship
problem
that
they
don't
feel
that
they
can
resolve,
and
there
also
are
a
fair
number
of
people
who
are
simply
looking
for
resources,
and
so
the
the
teams
who
work
in
the
living
room
also
know
where
the
food
banks
are.
U
They
know
where
benefits
can
be
applied,
for,
in
fact,
we
help
people
apply
for
benefits
if
they
wish
in
the
living
room.
We
can't
usually
do
that
in
one
visit,
but
we
can
do
it
in
a
couple
of
visits,
so
the
door
is
really
open
for
anyone
who
says
they're
in
crisis
and
and
we
don't
define
crisis,
we
we
let
our
guests
tell
us
that
they're
in
crisis
and
we
take
it
from
there.
K
Mayor
I
can
answer
one
of
peter's
questions.
I
think
I
think,
unless
I
just
forgot,
we
we
have
talked
to
north
shore
and
early
on
in
the
subcommittee's
tenure.
We
definitely
weren't
at
this
point
in
having
a
financial
ass,
but
we
did
talk
to
them
about
relieving
some
of
these
pressures
on
their
er
and
they
they
definitely
weren't
interested
in
partnering
with
us.
We'd
have
to
go
back
about
a
financial
commitment
once
we
kind
of
have
a
better
number
to
council
member
burns
point.
I
think
you
are
right.
K
I
would
be
you
know
more
than
supportive
to
start
here
and
then
build
on
this
land
or
figure
out
how
to
expand
as
the
services
you
know
require
us
to
do
that,
and
then
the
other
thing
I
want
to
bring
up
just
in
terms
of
the
911
and
and
your
point
about
focus
groups
is
you
know
if
we
can
really
think
through
and
eleanor,
and
I
can
figure
this
out
how
to
use
a
subcommittee.
K
I
mean,
as
you
know,
we're
a
city
of
a
lot
of
communication.
We
do
a
ton
of
focus
groups.
Probably
the
mental
health
board
has
already
done
some
and
I
I
do
get
leery
when
we
start
going
down
the
focus
group
route
and
it
prevents
us
from
starting
to
actually
provide
services.
I
think
probably
just
even
the
council
members
on
this
call
can
tell
you
what
the
services
are
based
on
the
calls
we
have
in
our
community.
K
K
You
know
the
community,
but
I
would
just
you
know,
I
think,
we're
at
the
point
getting
closer
to
the
point
that
get
open,
and
so
I
would
love
for
us
to
kind
of
keep
moving
in
that
way
and
not
kind
of
backtrack
with
asking
the
community
what
they
want,
because
they've
been
pretty
clear
in
telling
us
what
they
need.
I
think
police
supplier
can
tell
us
what
they
need.
The
hospitals
can
tell
us
what
they
need.
You
probably
know,
and
so
we
can
start.
K
The
model
would
be
great
and
chris
eleanor,
and
I
can
talk
to
you
and
probably
illinois.
We
should
try
to
reconvene
our
focus,
our
committee,
our
subcommittee,
but
about
kind
of
continuing
that
connection,
because
we
started
before
you
were
in
place
with
police
and
fire
and
not
only
triaging
those
calls.
But
then
how
can
they
get
people
to
you?
You
know
if
they
do
encounter
folks
and
you're,
not
at
the
point
of
being
able
to
respond
to
all
the
needs
that
we
have
on
the
street
right
away.
K
I
don't
know
what
the
rules
are
around
that
I
would
not
want
us
to
be
unwelcoming,
but
I
definitely
share
your
concerns
regarding
particularly
you
know,
as
colvin
came
and
we
started
offering
more
housing,
which
was
the
humane
thing
to
do,
how
that
increased
our
homeless
count
here
in
evanston
and
what
that
does
for
our
resources
and
our
community
as
well,
not
that
we
don't
want
to
be
on
welcoming,
but
we
don't
want
to
necessarily
bring
people
into
the
community.
Knowing
we
don't
have
long-term
supports
for
them.
A
I
do
think
one
important
factor
of
that
discussion
is
that
well
as
as
important
and
meaningful
as
this
is,
it
would
not
be
unique,
and
so
it
would
be
less
of
a
hey
folks
around
the
county
here.
That
evanston
is
the
place
to
go
for
a
living
room,
because
there's
skokie,
there's
northfield,
there's
page
county
et
cetera.
U
A
Well,
thank
you
all
for
really
exciting
and
productive
discussion
about
something
that
I
think
can
be
very
very
important
for
the
city.
A
There's
been
some
some
questions
that
I
think
give
us
all
some
homework
to
work
on,
and
it
does
sound
like
with
the
general
level
of
support
that
it
would
be
appropriate
to
for
the
next
time
we
bring
this
to
council
to
bring
it
with
a
specific
proposal
with
a
request
for
funding-
and
you
know
certainly
we'll
be
eager
to
kind
of
work
with
every
council
member
between
now
and
then
to
figure
out
figure
out
what
what
it's
going
to
take
to
to
make
sure
that
we're
addressing
the
questions
everyone
has
with
that.
A
That
brings
us
to
item
sp2
on
our
agenda,
which
is
before
us
for
action.
After
a
great
discussion
in
late
december.
Is
there
a
motion
on
item
sp2
so.
J
A
Who
was
the
second
from
quantum
member
reed
great?
Thank
you
so
council
member
braithwaite
who's
approval
of
item
sp2
council
member
reid
seconds.
I
I'm
almost
certain
that
audrey
thompson
is
in
the
zoom.
We
obviously
had
a
great
discussion
last
time,
but
wanted
to
give
her
the
opportunity
to
just
kind
of
update
folks
before
we
open
this
up
for
discussion.
Y
Yes,
I'm
here
thanks
mayor
best
and
to
the
council
members
for
again
allowing
me
to
come
and
update
you
on
the
memo
that
was
provided
to
you
all
on
the
20th.
Again,
just
thanking
you
all
for
the
discussion,
specifically
the
council
members,
braithway
burns
and
reed
for
calling
the
meeting
together
on
the
20th.
Y
But
then
I
I'd
also
like
to
thank
mayor
biss
and
dr
andrew
papa
christos
for
some
additional
work
that
we've
done
in
order
to
strengthen
the
memo
and
to
give
some
other
alternatives.
As
far
as
coming
back
later
and
having
more
of
a
pilot
program
that
will
be
evidence-based
and
trauma-informed.
Y
A
Thank
you
so
much,
and
I
did
want
to
give
andy
papacristos
just
a
chance
to
say
a
quick
word.
You
know
it's
been.
I
really
really
appreciate
the
way
the
two
of
you
came
together
and
found
a
way
forward
that
incorporates
not
only
incorporates
what
you
put
in
the
memo
for
december
20th,
but
also
some
of
the
ideas
that
andy's
working
group
had
come
up
with
and
just
wanted
to
give
mandy
a
chance
to
speak
to
that
for
a
moment.
Z
Yes,
thank
you,
and
I
just
really
want
to
thank
ms
thompson
and
her
team
taking
time
to
listen
to
some
of
the
recommendations
from
our
violence
prevention
working
group
from
the
reimagined
public
safety
committee,
and
I
also
want
to
recognize
that
the
members
of
our
committee,
of
course,
put
some
a
lot
of
months
into
thinking
through
these
things,
and
we
know
we're
very
happy
with
the
revised
language
and
we
really
look
forward
to
continuing
partnering
with
this
city
where
this
is
concerned
and
and
just
want
to
say
a
couple
things
and
I'll
be
as
brief
as
as
possible.
Z
One
is
that
again,
our
group
consisted
of
lifelong
evanstonians
with
lived
experience
both
with
violence
experiencing
firsthand
its
impact
personally
professionally
decades
of
experience
in
this
space
want
to
draw
attention,
especially
for
those
that
are
that
are
looking
at
the
revised
language
to
some
of
the
resources.
In
the
memo
consistent
with
the
last
proposal
and
some
of
the
discussions,
the
you
know,
the
the
best
practices
that
are
being
drawn.
This
memo
are
coming
from
some
of
the
the
cutting
edge
research
locally
nationally
federally
for
reducing
violence,
especially
gun
violence.
Z
It
from
a
community-based
perspective,
so
there's
other
resources,
as
people
are
considering
these
things,
and
just
to
summarize,
you
know
our
sets
of
memos.
You
know
we
have
three
center
recommendations.
We
hope
we
come
back
to.
One
is
strengthening
the
city's
expertise,
whether
it's
through
training
or
new
positions
or
and
again.
Some
of
this
is
included
in
the
memo
around
specifically
violence
prevention
and
what
that's
going
to
mean,
as
we
do
things
like,
expand
the
age
range
which
I
want
to
say.
Our
committee
agrees.
Z
That
is
crucial,
but
you
know
the
types
of
services
that
are
needed
for
28
29
year
olds
are
very
different,
the
sort
of
needs
that
they
have
as
as
individuals
as
families,
sometimes
they'll,
have
their
own
children,
for
example.
So
we
look
forward
to
having
those
conversations.
I
think
we
already
started
having
great
conversations.
Z
We
hope,
eventually
that
the
city
will
go
back
and
revisit
some
of
the
needs
around
victim
services
and
trauma-informed
victim
services
and
finally,
which
which
really
did
make
the
revisions
and
again,
thank
you
to
ms
thompson
and
her
team
was
really
our
recommendations
about
what
it's
going
to
take
in
evanston.
In
particular,
to
reach
those
most
immediately
impacted
and
involved
in
violence
itself,
and
really
there's
lots
of
expertise
locally
and
nationally.
Z
We
think
we
can
work
towards
this
april
goal
with
with
the
city,
and
our
working
group
just
wants
to
again
thank
everyone
for
the
chance
to
respond
and
to
take
our
concern
seriously,
which,
which
was
great
so
thank
you.
A
Thank
you-
and
I
do
want
to
thank
not
only
andy
but
the
working
group
that
he
chairs
of
the
of
the
imaging
public
safety
committee
on
the
whole
committee
for
the
time
they've
put
into
this.
This
is
you
know,
as
I've
said
to
everybody
in
these
discussions.
A
The
states
are
so
incredibly
high
here
that
we
just
need
every
resource
and
every
idea
and
every
tool
at
our
disposal-
and
I
really
appreciate
the
the
hours
and
the
passion
and
the
expertise
that
so
many
folks
have
brought
to
bear
so
with
that
thanks
so
much
again
to
both
of
you
and
happy
to
take
any
questions
or
comments.
I'll
start
with
councilmember
reid.
H
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
thank
you
to
audrey
for
your
leadership
and
that
to
professor
papa
christos
for
for
adding
your
expertise
to
this
as
well.
I'm
really
excited
about
moving
forward
with
this.
H
I
know
this
is
paired
down
a
bit
from
the
original
from
from
last
time,
but
I
think
that's
perfectly
fine,
given
that
we're
taking
real
steps
forward
and
using
some
additional
time
and
paying
back
some
of
that
funding
to
come
back
with
even
better
proposals
in
a
few
months,
so
really
excited
to
see
us
moving
forward,
and
I
do
just
want
to
recognize
an
eighth
warder
who
serves
on
you
know
that
that
committee,
with
proper,
with
with
professor
papa
griestos,
which
is
evangeline
seamark,
who
has
that
name,
has
been
popping
up
and
and
tonight
in
a
number
of
places,
suggest
to
recognize
the
work
of
that
great
eighth
quarter.
H
So
thank
you,
and
I
appreciate
council
member
burns
briefly
as
well
particularly
councilman
burns
for
for
leading
the
call
to
have
that
meeting
on
the
20th
in
response
to
the
tragic,
particularly
in
response
to
the
tragic
events
of
of
recent
in
our
city.
But
really
just
you
know
recognizing
that
overall
trend
and
you
know
taking
quick
steps
in
in
the
face
of
tragedy.
So
thank
you
all.
V
V
That
most
of
what
was
in
the
memo
mirror
what
I
saw
in
audrey's
proposal,
so
I
think
more
so
what
what's
great
about
this
is,
it
seems
like
there's
some
opportunity
and
some
desire
for
the
two
to
come
together
to
collaborate
on
developing
a
model
specific
to
evanston,
and
that
would
be
new
to
evanston.
So
I
just
want
to
make
that
clear.
V
Then
again,
I
think
her
proposal
is
very
similar
to
what
we
saw
coming
out
of
the
working
group,
but
if
we
want
to
really
sit
down
and
develop
a
model
unique
to
evanston,
specifically
to
everson,
that's
based
on
models
that
we're
seeing
around
the
chicago
area
around
the
country,
I
fully
support
that
so
looking
forward
to
seeing
what
comes
of
that,
and
just
want
to
thank
everyone
that
worked
on
this.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
council,
member
nusmo,
you
know
what
oh
go
ahead.
X
Just
joining
in
the
the
course
of
of
applause
in
terms
of
the
great
work
that
we
all
get
to
to
support
so
too
audrey
and
your
outreach
team.
Thank
you
for
everything
that
you've
been
doing
thus
far,
as
well
as
the
expanded
efforts
that
we're
we're
voting
to
support
tonight.
I
think
this
is
real
customized
support.
X
That's
that's
specific
to
evanston,
I'm
a
little
bit
critical
and
arrogant
in
terms
of
the
issues
that
we
experience
here
and
the
difference
that
I
see
you
know
here
in
evanston
versus
the
larger
cities
of
chicago.
X
It's
it's
difficult
for
me
to
make
that
leap
in
comparison,
especially
due
to
the
intimate
nature
of
some
of
these
issues
that
we've
dealt
with
over
the
many
years,
but
I
love
the
holistic
approach
that
is
being
prescribed
and
definitely
in
in
full
of
support
over
the
last
couple
of
weeks,
just
between
now
and
the
last
time
you
spoke,
you've
done
a
tremendous
amount
of
outreach.
X
I've
had
a
chance
to
touch
base
with
some
of
our
community
partners
in
their
excitement
in
in
joining
in
in
terms
of
meeting
the
needs
of
our
target
population.
So,
thank
you
again
for
your
efforts,
as
well
as
your
team
and
looking
forward
to
what
2022
is
going
to
bring
in
terms
of
the
work
that
we
have
ahead
of
us.
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
mayor.
J
C
Thanks,
mr
mayor,
I
I
will
join
the
chorus
of
people
offering
thanks
to
ms
thompson.
Thank
you,
audrey
for
getting
us
to
this
part,
getting
us
to
this
point,
and
not
only
just
you,
but
everyone
who's
been
part
of
this
process.
I'm
really
happy
to
support
using
arpa
money
in
this
in
this
manner.
I
think
this
is
a
well
thought
out
plan.
I
like
the
focus
on
some
of
the
the
quantitative
metrics
here.
C
Of
course,
let's
not
lose
sight
of
the
the
qualitative
measures
that
are
a
little
bit
hard
to
track,
but
you
know
kind
of
we
know
it
when
when
we
feel
it
kind
of
a
thing
and
in
terms
of
you
know,
kind
of
making
this
part
of
the
the
culture
of
babinson
on
an
ongoing
basis,
I
will
just
point
out
that
we've
got
our
money
to
get
this
going
this
year.
We
will
be
challenged
to
find
sources
of
funding
for
this
on
an
ongoing
basis
and
I'm
happy
to
meet
that
challenge.
A
Thank
you
councilmember
burns.
Are,
you
is
your
hand
up
for
a
second
second
time,
or
is
it
still
up
for
the
first
time.
A
It
in
that
case,
I
see
nobody
else
seeking
to
speak
so
if,
if
no
one
else
wants
to
speak,
just
wanna
again
thank
audrey
and
her
team
for
this
just
unbelievably
important
work.
It's
you
know
maybe
the
most
important
thing
that
we
do
as
a
as
a
community
and
with
that
with
the
clerk.
Please
call
the
role.
I
A
A
That
brings
us
to
the
consent
agenda.
I
am
going
to
pull
off
items
a16
17,
18,
19,
20
and
21,
because
they
are
they're
all
requesting
rule
suspension.
Is
there
anything
else
that
folks
want
pulled
off
the
consent
agenda?
Besides
a
16-21.
A
Right
seeing
none,
I
would
entertain
a
motion
on
the
consent
agenda.
C
Mr
mayor,
I
will
move
the
consent
agenda
with
the
exceptions
of
items
a16
through
a21.
A
B
A
With
eight
voting
in
favor
and
none
voting
against
the
motion
passes
and
the
entire
consent
agenda,
except
for
a16
through
a21
passes,
would
someone
like
to
make
a
motion
to
suspend
the
rules
simultaneously
on
all
six
items
a16
through
a21
to
allow
them
both
to
be
voted
on
simultaneously
for
introduction
and
for
action.
A
H
I
just
want
to
reiterate
what
I
said
at
committee
for
the
entire
community
that
one
of
the
liquor
licenses
is
for
a
business
on
howard
street
estacion,
and
I
want
to
you
know,
thank
you
know
to
the
community
and
my
predecessor
for
their
vision
for
power
street
power
street's
coming
together
as
a
one-stop
shop
for
folks
who
want
to
you,
know,
get
cuisine
from
all
over
the
world
with
like
latin
food,
jamaican
food
african
food.
H
You
know
you
got
the
whole
panoply
there,
so
just
really
excited
about
what's
happening
on
howard
and
continuing
the
development
along
howard
street.
You
know
which
was
underway
before
I
got
in
office,
but
just
fortunate
to
be
a
part
of
it.
So
thank
you.
A
Great
lots
lots
happening
in
town
so
with
that
can
we
have
the
vote,
and
this
is
the
vote
on
the
motion
to
suspend
the
rules.
We'll
also
take
another
vote
after
this.
Should
this
pass.
J
A
H
I
will
move
item
a.
I
believe
it's
aid
for
a16.
Is
that
correct
yep?
I
move
item
a16
through
21.
and
then
I
will
second.
A
Council,
member
reed
moves
passage
for
both
introduction
and
action
on
items:
a16,
17,
18,
19,
20
and
21
council
member
news
in
the
seconds.
Just
to
reiterate:
if
this
passes
its
final
action
on
all
six
of
these
items,
is
there
any
discussion
same
none?
Will
the
clerk?
Please
call
the
roll.
B
A
On
this
matter,
there
are
eight
voting
in
favor
and
none
voting
against,
and
so
all
six
all
six
items
are
now
passed
this.
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
this
should
bring
us
to
call
of
the
wards,
beginning
with
council
member
rebelle.
H
Yes,
two
two
items,
one.
I
want
to
announce
three
items.
I
want
to
let
eighth
water,
sorry,
I'm
looking
down
and
trying
to
check
the
calendar
either.
We
will
have
a
ward,
not
award
meeting
but
let's
say,
award
check-in
on
the
weekend
prior
to
the
council
city
manager's
election,
so
that
that'll
be
on
the
24th
when
we
meet
in
executive
session
to
discuss
that
so
two
days
before
that
would
be
the
22nd
on
saturday.
I
believe
yeah
we'll
have
a
award
meeting
or
a
award
huddle.
H
If
you
will,
on
that
saturday,
at
one
o'clock
I'll
send
out
information
for
the
google
meet
for
for
folks
to
hear
feedback
regarding
the
city
manager
selection
as
we
head
into
the
vote,
and
that
will
be
in
addition
to
our
regular
award
meeting
next,
I
just
want
to
move
I've
spoken
to
almost
almost
all
of
you.
I
think
maybe
everyone
here
at
this
moment
regarding
this.
H
H
We
have
tighter
copied
restrictions
because
of
the
spreading
omicron
variant,
and
we
know
that
hospitalizations
and
breakthrough
cases
are
at
reaching
record
numbers,
and
so
with
that,
I'm
interested
and
with
school
closings
starting
to
roll
our
school
reversions
back
to
remote
learning
happening
across
the
nation.
I'm
looking
to
re
to
have
the
conversation
regarding
hazard
pay
again.
H
I
was
very
pleased
through
the
conversations
that
I
had
with
my
colleagues
today,
that
there
seems
to
be
strong
support,
at
least
for
a
discussion
of
it,
and
that
folks
understand
the
merit
of
looking
at
hazard
pay
for
our
grocery
store
workers
who
are
at
a
heightened
risk
to
some
of
their
other
counterparts,
particularly
their
lower
wage
counterparts,
in
that
the
vaccine,
mandates
and
vaccine
passport
requirements
do
not
apply
to
grocery
stores.
H
We
are
seeing
hiring
issues
at
a
number
of
locations,
including
a
number
of
sectors,
including
grocery
stores,
and
so
so
with
that
I'd
just
love
to
to
rehab
the
conversation
on
the
24th
about
hazard
pay,
and
so
I
am
going
to
move
that
a
special
order
of
business
be
placed
on
the
agenda
for
the
24th
to
begin.
You
know
for
introduction
of
the
the
hazard
pay
bill
of
a
hazard
pay
bill
for
grocery
store
workers
at
large,
grocery
stores.
A
So,
council
member
reed
moves
that
a
special
order
of
business
be
placed
on
the
january
24th
agenda,
which
would
be
the
introduction
of
an
ordinance
on
the
january
24th
city
council
meeting
agenda,
which
would
be
a
city
ordinance.
Establishing
hazard
pay
for
workers
at
large
grocery
stores.
Is
there
a
second
for
that
motion.
K
K
Well-
and
I
don't
I
can
just
vote
but
my
question
is:
why
does
this
seem
to
be
a
special
order,
business
and
then
just
go
through
the
referrals
committee?
I
I
I
realize
the
referrals
committee
has
not
been
ideal
because
we've
made
referrals-
and
still
I
don't
think
things
are
moving
that
fast
to
get
on
the
agendas.
K
A
H
Yeah
so
there'd
be
a
month
between
now
and
then
before
it
come
to
council
for
action
and
to
answer
the
the
first
question
is
the
you
know,
just
as
the
item
that
there
are
plenty
of
items
that
come
before
the
council
through
the
special
order
of
business
process.
I
think,
given
the
given
the.
H
Given
that
the
fact
that
there
is,
you
know
a
need
now-
and
you
know
we
are
currently
meeting
virtually
now-
we're
not
you
know
sending
you
know
our
own
safety
through
referrals
process.
H
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
to
move
with
with
with
haste
on
this,
and
particularly
since
we've
had
this
just
part
parts
of
this
discussion
in
the
in
the
past
and
and
many
of
the
factors
and
concerns
that
folks
had
previously
have
now
been
answered,
and
I
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
move
forward
with
the
case
with
this.
K
All
right,
so
I
you
know,
as
I
told
you
on
the
telephone,
I
would
be
open
to
having
a
discussion.
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
parameters
we
need
to
figure
out.
I
don't
remember
all
of
the
details
of
the
last
discussion,
so
I
can't
I
don't
remember
exactly
what
happened,
but
you
know
I
I
would
imagine
people
who
don't
work
at
a
large
course
just
over
work
at
places
that
are
also
still
open
would
like
to
be
qualified
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
K
A
Council,
member
yeah,
oh
sorry,
do
you
want
to
respond
to
that
counselor.
H
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
it
would
you
know
there'd
be
a
month
between
or
over
a
month
between
today,
and
you
know
it
actually
come
into
counsel
for
any
kind
of
final
action
at
least
a
month,
given
the
current
process.
So
I
think
that
allows
a
lot
of
time
for
discussion.
X
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
I
want
to
thank
you,
know,
council
member
he
he
did
reach
out
to
me
just
as
a
heads
up
in
what
I
share
with
him
is
the
same
thing
that
I'll
share
with
members
of
council
and
also
the
public
listening.
So
you
know
obviously
my
position
the
last
time
around
it
starts
with
the
communication
with
the
with
the
businesses
that
would
be
impacted,
particularly
valley
and
food
for
less,
and
so
there's
no
way
that
I
could
support
something
like
this.
X
Without
having
a
conversation
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
learned
the
last
time
that
this
came
up
is
that
some
of
the
stores
actually
did
something
for
their
employees.
So
I
have
no
idea
what
their
strategy
is
right
now.
I
do
know
that
this
comes
at
a
time
where
all
retailers
are
struggling
for
to
find
the
appropriate
staff,
and
those
are
just
things
that
I
need
to
have
those
discussion
before
with
them
before
I
would
feel
comfortable
moving.
You
know
having
it.
X
I
am
a
little
bit
concerned
for
it
going
as
an
introduction.
So
if
we
were
going
to
force
a
discussion,
I
would
hope
that
other
council
members
that
would
have
those
discussions
with
the
retailers
in
their
ward.
Just
so,
we
come
with
some
understanding
before
taking
the
next
step
and
then.
Lastly,
I'm
also
concerned
that
we
are
limiting
this
just
to
grocers
and
does
that
set
up
any
grounds
for
for
any
type
of
legal
action,
not
to
mention
that
we
still
have
a
pretty
hot
topic
with
how
we
compensate
our
city
staff.
X
So
that's
it.
H
Thank
you,
it
may.
Your
business
may
quickly
respond
sure,
okay,
particularly
to
the
question
of
any
legal
liability.
As
I
mentioned
on
our
call
earlier,
there
were
lawsuits
filed
against
every
municipality
just
about
that
tried
this
previously
last
year,
and
those
lawsuits
have
since
been
dealt
with,
and
the
municipalities
have
come
out
on
top
in
that
these
this
model
is
constitutional.
H
It
meets
legal
guidelines
in
in
singling
out
grocery
stores,
particularly
again,
the
reason
for
singling
out
grocery
stores
is
their
their
how
critical
they
are
as
far
as
our
food
infrastructure
to
providing
safe
and
nutritious
food
to
folks
in
our
community,
but
also
given
you
know,
looking
at
the
risk
that
is
uniquely
created
here
in
that
our
vaccine
mandate.
H
D
D
Well,
in
our
conversation
earlier
today,
you
mentioned
the
idea
that
maybe
the
city
would
be
able
to
provide
some
funding
for
hazard
pay
for
perhaps
employees
at
smaller
grocery
stores.
So
is
that
still
part
of
your
proposal
or.
H
Yes,
certainly,
I
think
if
there
was
something
perhaps
okay,
I
think
they're
you
know
similar,
but
maybe
slightly
I
mean
it
depends
on
the
will
of
the
council
here
similar,
but
maybe
slightly
separate
tracks.
But
yes,
I'm
thinking
of
a
place
like
valley,
for
example,
which
is
you
know,
of
our
larger
grocery
grocers
valley,
is
our
smallest
large
grocer.
H
If
you
will
and
because
they're
they're
smaller
they're,
not
you
know
the
size
of
a
jewel,
a
target,
a
whole
foods
trader
joe's
whatever
you
know,
I
think
there
is
the
possibility
after
discuss
having
this
discussion
with
with
manager
again
with
interim
manager
gandersky.
She
she
put
the
idea.
You
know
which
I
thought
was
a
really
solid
idea
that
you
know
our
book
could
be
used
for
this,
and
you
know
if
arpa
was
to
be
used
for
this.
H
I
think
it
would
be
best
placed
for
a
store
like
valley,
which
is
a
smaller
store.
D
Okay,
I
mean
I'm
happy
to
support
putting
it
on
the
agenda
for
our
next
council
meeting,
but
I
do
think
I
have
quite
a
few
questions.
H
Yeah,
and
certainly
what
I'm
really
and
thank
you
for
that,
I'm
I'm
really
I've
had
conversations
with
almost
everyone,
but
certainly
we're
looking
to
continue
that
here
and
at
the
next
meeting
and
work
with
you
know
our
city
manager
and
staff
and
other
colleagues
to
get
answers
to
all
of
the
questions
that
folks
have.
So
we
can
make
sure
that
we're
doing
what's
doing
right
by
our
workers.
C
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
am
reluctant
to
support
this
for
introduction
at
our
next
council
meeting,
because
I
do
think
if
we
move
forward
with
something
like
this.
There
are
a
lot
of
questions
with
without
answers
and
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
left
to
happen.
C
If
it
goes
to
our
next
council
meeting
for
introduction,
you
know
that
assumes
that
we
will
have
the
structure
of
an
ordinance
in
front
of
us
to
consider,
and
I
don't
think
we're
there
yet.
I
I
think
we
do
need
to
do
a
lot
more
homework
before
we
can
get
to
that
point.
So
yeah,
that's
all.
I
have
right
now.
W
Yes,
that,
thank
you,
mr
mayor
councilmember
reed
called
me
late
this
afternoon
to
talk
about
this
and
I
think
it's
a
topic
that
would
be
is
worth
exploring,
but
I
have
the
same
concerns
that
have
been
raised
already,
that
this
is
very
fast
and
that
by
having
it
be
a
special
order
of
business
that
we're
we're
kind
of
putting
it
on
the
fast
track,
without
necessarily
giving
ourselves
the
amount
of
time
that
we
might
need,
and
as
I
raise
the
last
time
this
came
up,
we
really
have
to
make
sure
we
in
bring
in
the
business
community
and
I'm
very
concerned
about
the
other
businesses
that
we
have,
that
are
also
that
also
have
essential
workers.
W
And
how
do
we
justify
grocery
stores
and
versus
a
number
of
other
businesses
that
we
have
in
the
community?
So
while
I
I'm
happy
to
look
again
at
this
issue,
I
don't
want
to
be
have
us
put
in
a
corner
where
we
feel
where
we
might
be
acting
before
we're.
We
have
all
the
information
that
we
need.
H
Mayor
basically,
finally,
quickly
respond
to
both
council
number
one
and
news.
H
Yeah,
thank
you
both
to
council,
member
and
newsma.
You
know
I
one,
as
I
did
last
time,
if
I
think
moving
it
forward
for
a
special
order
of
business
is
the
the
proper
avenue
as
I
committed
last
time
and
as
I
believe
I
also
supported
last
time.
H
If,
for
some
reason,
the
policy
is
not
if
we're
not
ready
to
move
forward,
I
also
will
support
you
know
holding
off
on
it
for
a
meeting
and
allowing
for
that
third
meeting.
H
I
will
also
say
that
having
an
actual
ordinance
in
front
of
us
to
councilman
bernissma's
point
that
we
can
actually
vet
and
talk
about
for
introduction
is
better
than
you
know
talking
about
it.
You
know
kind
of
behind
the
sky
this
this
you
know
at
this
point.
This
is
not
a
a
new
policy.
Essentially,
this
has
existed
in
communities
across
our
nation.
This
we're
taking
a
a
a
fairly
at
this
point,
a
boilerplate
model
that
has
been
tested
in
courts
that
has
been
tested
economically.
H
So
I
think
the
real
thing
to
look
at
is
what
have
you
know
to
have
an
ordinance
that
is
modeled
after
some
other
communities
and
then
look
at
what
have
been
the
effects
of
you
know.
Similar
legislation
on
you
know
the
grocers.
The
legal
aspect
is,
I
think,
very
clearly
answered,
and
then
you
know,
I
think
that
the
questions
that
council
member
when
raised
are
also
answered.
H
Then,
finally,
I
will
say
that
in
this
model
to
council
member
braithwaite's
point
as
well,
certainly
folks,
who
are
already
good
actors-
and
you
know,
trader
joe's
and
others
in
the
past
were
were
on
the
forefront
here
in
providing
additional
wages.
This
would
not
go
at
least
the
model
that
has
been
proposed
previously
and
that
you
know
I
want
to
bring
back
as
an
initial
framework.
H
You
know
that
model
gave
folks
credit
for
and
support
that
they
were
already
providing
to
their
to
their
workers,
and
so
they
would
not
have
to
pay
anything
if
their
their
base
level
of
support,
matched
what
we
were
going
to
request
as
a
council.
They
would
not
have
to
pay
anything
additional.
J
V
To
to
weigh
and
and
react
to
that
being
said,
I
don't
know
because
we
there's
already
ordinance
drafted.
I
don't
know
if
we
need
this
to
be
for
introduction
to
achieve
that.
I
think
it's
already
been
achieved.
I'm
certainly
happy
to
support
it
for
intro,
but
probably
would
prefer
it
as
a
discussion
item
but
willing
to
support
it
for
introduction.
V
I
think
it's
important
that
we
do
one
or
the
other
just
because
we're
not
going
to
think
about
this
again
at
all
unless
we
clearly
established
it
as
a
priority
for
us
as
a
city
and
as
councilman
marie
stated,
things
have
developed
around
us.
Those
lawsuits
that
were
brought
up
as
a
concern
in
our
previous
discussion
about
this,
as
councilman
reid,
stated,
have
either
all
or
mostly
failed,
and
these
types
of
hazard
pay
requirements
have
have
still
stand,
and
so.
V
T
V
It
fails
it
fails,
but
it's
certainly
worth
having
the
discussion.
I
agree
with
a
council
member
braceway,
and
that
was
my
my
first
reaction.
Councilman
reid
called
me
about
this
was
that
we
need
to
100
reach
out
to
the
business
community
and
in
particular,
the
ones
that
that
reached
out
with
concerns
the
last
time
this
was
considered
so,
mr
thoughts,
thank
you.
A
D
Well,
given
the
number
of
questions
that
it
seems
that
my
colleagues
have
and
that
I
have
as
well
and
council
member
burns
point
just
now
that
we
do
have
an
ordinance
from
before
that
we
could
look
at
so
I
I
guess
I
would
suggest
to
council
member
reid
that
you
amend
your
motion
to
have
it
be
a
discussion
item
and
ask
that
the
memo
for
that
discussion
item
include
the
ordinance
that
we
had
before
us
a
number
of
months
ago.
D
So
we
do
have
that
model
to
use
for
our
discussion
purposes,
but
I
think
everybody
just
about
everybody-
we've
heard
from
this
evening
this
evening-
would
feel
more
comfortable.
If
this
were
a
discussion
item
at
the
next
meeting,
and
that
would
still
you
know,
we
could
still
act
expeditiously
from
then
on,
so
that
that
would
be
my
strong
encouragement.
H
Here's
what
I'll
say:
we've
had
this
discussion
almost
well,
I'm
not
gonna,
say
a
year
ago,
but
we
had
this
discussion
a
while
ago,
and
you
know
we
have
a
framework
for
this.
We
know
what
the
business
unit
is
going
to
say,
they're
going
to
say
we
don't
want
to
do
this.
This
is
illegal.
You
know
what
they
said
last
time.
H
I
definitely
want
to
have
those
conversations
and
I
will
have
those
conversations-
and
I
think
my
colleagues
should,
but
let's
play
this
out,
we
hold
it
for
only
for
discussion
at
the
next
meeting.
Our
hands
are
certainly
tied
in
the
time
frame
in
which
this
can
be
passed.
If
it's
for
introduction,
we
still
allow
ourselves
the
opportunity
if
it
needs
to
be
if,
for
some
reason,
there
are
major
questions
in
two
weeks
and
then
over
a
month
that
aren't
answered
in
a
month,
we
could
still
hold
it
and
again.
H
I
said
I
would
be
supportive
of
that,
but
if
we
put
it
merely
for
discussion
the
next
time,
that
would
mean
the
14th
of
february
would
be
the
first
meeting
and
which
would
be
for
introduction,
and
then
you
know
two
weeks
from
then
is
you
know
the
first
time
we
could
take?
Actually
it'd
be.
You
know
a
month
and
a
half
two
months
before
it's
up
for
a
final
vote,
and
you
know
our
workers,
you
know,
need
support.
Now
I
wish
again
we
had
passed
this
ordinance.
H
You
know
months
ago
when
it
was
first
brought
up
and
it
was
in
place
now
to
kick
in.
You
know,
as
this
new
crisis
is,
is,
is
taking
hold,
but
you
know
as
we're
meeting
virtually
as
today,
the
vaccine
passport
mandate
is
taking
place.
I
think
you
know,
we've
said
as
a
community
that
you
know
this.
H
Our
responsibility
is
extremely
important
and
we
need
to
do
whatever
we
can
to
protect
lives
and
our
workers
to
ensure
a
continuation
of
services,
and
so
that
would
be
my
reason
for
wanting
to
continue
with
it
for
introduction
again,
as
I
said,
I
would
be
happy
if
you
know
the
majority
support
was
there
to
myself.
Also
support
you
know
tabling
it
for
another
meeting
if
it's
not
ready
either
next
meeting
or
the
meeting
afterwards.
D
Well,
we
can't
hold
a
special
order
of
business,
I
mean,
obviously
you
could
table
it,
but
we
could
also,
if
we
following
the
discussion
at
the
next
meeting,
we
can
always
have
it
be
moved.
We
could
suspend
the
rules
at
the
following
meeting
just
to
introduce
it
and
act
on
it
at
the
same
meeting,
so
I
I
think
we
could.
We
could
end
up
at
the
same
point
if,
if
we've
got
all
our
questions
answered.
H
I
I
agree
with
you,
and
I
I
thought
about
that,
but
the
thing
is:
if
we
were
to
suspend
the
rules,
just
one
member
could
vote
no
to
suspending
the
rules
and
and
and
stop
the
process,
whereas
if
we
table
it
would
take
more
than
one
member
to
to
to
stop
the
process
or
to
continue
it
and
again,
my
word
is
is
surely
that
I
would
be
supportive
of
emotionally.
H
You
know
it's
still
doable.
It
takes
six
votes
of
my
understand.
If
my
memory
of
our
rules
is
correct
and
you'd
count
me
and
I'm
sure
everyone
else
who
spoke
as
as
a
vote
to
table
it,
if
need
be,.
A
D
Just
to
test
where
my
colleagues
are,
then
I'm
not
exactly
sure
what
the
official
motion
should
be.
I
moved
to.
A
D
Oh
okay,
I'll!
Try
that
I
move
to
amend
council
member
reid's
motion
to
say
that
we,
if
this
be
an
item
for
discussion
at
our
meeting
at
our
next
council
meeting,.
W
A
H
I
will
just
quickly
say
you
know,
I'm
I'm
happy
that
we're
moving
this
forward,
so
thank
you,
alderman
ravel
and
others
for
supporting
moving
this
forward,
but
I
do
hope
that
we
really
do
work
with
haste
and
imagine
ourselves
and
our
family
and
the
ones
that
we
love
as
workers
at
grocery
stores
and
other
essential
workers
who
are
having
to.
Unlike
some
other,
you
know,
employees,
you
know
they're,
not
health
care
workers.
H
They
didn't
sign
up
to
be
necessarily
on
the
front
lines
during
a
pandemic,
but
they
they
still
are,
and
so,
let's
just
work
with
the
the
haste
as
if
this
is
our
own
family
and
our
loved
ones
who
are
having
to
deal
with
this
without
much
support.
A
Thank
you
would
the
clerk,
please
call
the
role
on
council
member
revell's
motion
to
amend
the
underlying
request.
B
Member
bradley
aye
councilmember
nguyen
aye
councilmember,
hi,
councilmember
birds,
all
right.
A
There's
seven
voting
in
favor
and
one
voting
against
the
motion
carries
and
now
I
hope
we
can
vote
on
the
amended
motion
without
any
further
discussion.
So
the
clerk,
please
call
the
role
on
the
amended
motion,
which
now
says
the
january
24th
city
council
meeting
will
have
a
special
order
of
business,
which
will
be
a
discussion
item
about
this
topic.
G
H
Have
one
very
quick,
not
another
motion,
so
that
was
as
far
as
discussion,
but
I
I
do
we,
I
think
we
all
received-
or
at
least
most
of
us
received
a
letter
from
evanston
community
fridges
regarding
an
order
that
was
issued
by
our
health
department
to
from
my
understanding,
shut
down
the
community
fridges-
and
I
am
disappointed
in
that.
H
But
certainly
I
can't
be
you
know
if
it's
if
it
is
our
code
that
those
community
bridges
are
not
allowed,
I
cannot
be
disappointed
with
any
staff
member
necessarily,
but
what
I
am
disappointed
in
is
us,
and
so
I
hope
I'm
going
to
be
making
a
referral
to
allow,
for
you
know
to
create
an
exemption
in
our
code
to
allow
for
community
fridges.
H
I
think
it's
a
great
asset
to
our
community
to
to
have
these
sources
of
mutual
aid
in
our
community,
and
I
would
love
to
encourage
that
this
is
happening
across
our
nation
as
far
as
the
proliferation
and
the
existence
of
these,
I
hope
proliferation
isn't
bad,
but
the
the
the
existence
of
the
community
fridges-
and
I
really
want
to
support
that-
and
the
young
folks
who
are
leading
that
effort.
H
I
see
folks
in
eighth
ward
constantly
at
the
community
fridge
next
to
the
new
palm
house
stocking
it,
and
I
always
make
sure
to
you
know
say
thank
you
to
folks
and
tell
them
how
important
it
is.
If
I,
if
I
notice
it
so
you
know
this
is
really
important.
I
hope
we
can
adjust
our
code.
Thank
you.
I
I
X
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
First,
on
behalf
of
our
reparations
committee
where
councilmember
burns
and
councilmember
reed,
along
with
our
other
community
volunteers,
we
will
target
this
thursday
at
9
00
a.m.
If
we
will
jordan,
we're
still
working
to
confirm
the
plans
to
draw
the
names
of
our
first
round
of
applicants
for
our
for
the
new
housing
program,
I
hear
some
echoing
in
the
background.
X
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
because
of
me
or
someone
else
is
unmuted,
so
there
should
be
announcement
coming,
but
we
just
wanted
to
give
a
heads
up
that
we,
our
last
committee
meeting.
X
Move
the
last
step-
and
this
will
get
us
closer
to
boarding
our
first
16
residents
with
with
the
repair
for
the
harm
and
then,
secondly,
we
will
host
a
second
ward
meeting
this
thursday
virtually
and
we
will
introduce
our
new
pst
officer
and
as
well
as
discuss
the
city,
manager's
updates
on
city
manager
search.
Thank
you.
W
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
that
was
very
exciting
news.
Councilmember
braithwaite.
I
look
forward
to
hearing
more
about
that.
Just
briefly,
on
thursday
january
27th
will
be
the
next
third
ward
town
hall
meeting.
It
will
be
virtually.
W
C
Celebration.
Thank
you.
Mr
mayor
february,
ward
meeting
will
be
tuesday
february
1st
at
7
pm.
I
will
make
the
call
closer
to
that
meeting
whether
we
will
do
that
virtually
or
in
person
saturday
february
12
office
hours
from
10
to
noon.
We
will
most
likely
do
that
in
person,
but
I
reserve
the
right
to
change
and
do
that
virtually
as
far
as
the
city
manager
search
is
concerned,
I'd
like
to
thank
all
the
fourth
ward
residents
who
applied
to
participate
on
the
on
the
resident
panel.
C
I
look
forward
to
hearing
from
those
of
you
who
were
not
selected
in
particular,
shout
out
to
the
two
that
were
selected.
Susan
barrett,
kelly
and
wendy
pollock
have
already
talked
to
susan,
who
is
a
retired,
hr
professional
and
has
given
us
some
some
good
stuff
to
think
about,
as
we
continue
the
process
here.
So
everyone
else.
C
Fourth
ward
residents,
please
let
me
know
your
thoughts,
I
believe
the
the
youtube
videos
of
the
town
hall.
It
should
have
been
posted
by
this
point.
Thank
you.
V
Yes,
first
wanted
to
say
thanks
to
to
sheik
and
I
think
jesse
city
staff.
They
have
helped
me
schedule
out
the
next
upcoming
meetings
and
so
I'll
come
in
fifth
ward
meetings
and
so
the
last
thursday
of
each
month
we
will
have
a
fifth
ward
meetings,
beginning
at
7,
00
p.m.
We're
going
to
hold
virtual
meetings
until
until
circumstances,
change
and-
and
then
also
I
wanted
to
discuss
this
before
but
announce
the
working
group
committee
that
I've
recently
established.
V
With
the
advice
of
city
staff
base
because
of
staff
capacity
issues,
they've
recommended
that
we
establish
this
as
a
working
group
instead
of
an
official
committee
of
the
city.
But
after
we
meet
one
or
two
times,
I
will
make
the
committee
available
to
the
public
for
the
public
to
participate
in
particular
field
four
residents.
But
it's
called
the
here
to
stay
committee
and
real
without
going
into
all
the
names
of
the
folks
will
release
it
at
some
point.
But
we
basically
have.
I
know
sorry.
V
Real
estate
brokers
who
are
participating
are
local,
having
some
folks
small
developers
realtors,
who
who
work
generally
in
the
chicago
area
but
but
live
in
the
fifth
and
second
wards,
a
member
of
everson
development,
cooperative
and
connections
for
the
homeless,
which
of
course
is
a
housing,
affordability
and
homeless
prevention,
advocacy
organization,
and
we
are
going
to
be
working
on.
V
V
Evaluate
the
pros
and
cons
of
the
city
of
establishing
a
local
housing
authority
in
the
local
land
bank,
identify
housing
developments
that
have
expiring
affordability,
restrictions
and
develop
a
plan
to
renegotiate
the
affordability
terms
for
the
current
landlord
and
last
explore
the
feasibility
of
engaging
and
collaborating
with
low
and
moderate
income
tenants
interested
in
converting
into
shared
ownership
models
such
as
such
as
limited
equity,
housing
cooperatives.
Our
focus
is
going
to
be
on
the
on
the
fifth
ward.
V
We
have
been
assured
by
staff
that
they
will
support
us
as
needed,
and
so
I'm
excited
about
this.
We've
got
some
good
folks
that
have
agreed
to
participate
in
this
and
again
we'll
make
sure
those
the
second
and
third
meetings
and
so
on,
and
so
far
far
that
the
public
is
able
to
participate.
Thank
you.
H
And
I'm
sorry
if
I
may
ask
if
if
personnel
is
not
mentioned
there,
if
we
could
just
add
the
exemption
for
personnel.
C
Purcell
two
five
illinois
compiled
statutes:
120
2a.
I
moved
that
the
city
council
convened
into
executive
session
to
discuss
agenda
items
regarding
litigation
and
personnel.
J
A
A
A
A
monster
councilmember
rebel
seconds
is
there.
Any
discussion
seem
known
to
the
clerk.
Please
call
the
roll.
A
With
eight
voting
in
favor
and
none
voting
against
at
8
56
pm,
the
evans
city
council
resolves
into
executive
session
just
one
bit
of
housekeeping,
so
that
entails
ending
this
zoom
and
joining
a
different
zoom
and
so
I'll
see
you
folks
over
there.