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A
A
B
Here:
councilmember
Reed
here,
council
member
here
council
member
Kelly
here
councilmember
Harris,
present
council
member.
When.
C
A
Thank
you
clerk.
We
have
a
quorum
president
and
are
prepared
to
do
our
work.
We'll
begin
the
mornings
proceedings
with
public
comment.
We
start
with
those
who
have
signed
up
in
person
to
speak
in
person,
Ray
Friedman.
D
Good
morning,
good
morning,
everyone
Happy
New
Year
to
everyone,
I'm,
sorry,
I
didn't
speak
at
Monday's
council
meeting
and
I
missed
the
I,
heard
the
discussion
about
Harley
Clark
and
was
really
disappointed
that
we
couldn't
get
some
agreement
between
the
parties
in
order
to.
We
started
this
discussion
with
Harley
Clark
two
years
ago
and
for
some
six
years
ago,
and
we
couldn't
get
an
agreement
and
now
Artisan
Book
House
backed
out
that's.
D
So
what
do
we
do
now
and
what
happened
to
all
the
money
that
Harrison
Book
House
raised
and
what's
the
penalty
I
guess
for
backing
out
of
that
agreement
and
leaving
the
city
hanging
so
of
the
goals
I
was
at
the
the
goals
meeting
I
think
it
was
in
2017.
Was
it
when
we
had
the
last
when
we
and
it's
for
four
years?
Is
that
correct?
It's
four-year
the
goals?
Okay,
so
it
looks
like
we
made
progress
of
the
six
goals
we
made
progress
on
five.
D
The
one
that's
lacking
is
a
stabilized
City
finances
which
I'm
a
big
big
proponent,
of
trying
to
stabilize
City
finances
and
figure
out.
Okay,
how
much
money
is
coming
in?
How
much
money
is
going
out?
It
seems
fairly
simple
to
me.
If
we
don't
have
the
money,
we
don't
spend
it.
It
seems
like
a
lot
of
the
expenses
come
from
lack
of
Maintenance
like
Windows
here
here,
Laura
big,
say:
well,
they
didn't
the
windows.
D
So
now
it's
what
a
five
million
dollar
problem
to
replace
all
the
windows,
because
the
windows
weren't
caulked,
really
so
seven
million
dollars
on
Fountain
Square.
What
are
we
doing
with
Fountain
Square,
eight
million
dollars
on
lawsuits
for
James
Park
that
all
the
attorneys
said
just
drop
it,
but
it
went
for
eight
years
and
eight
million
dollars.
This
is
this
is
a
tragedy.
I
mean
the
budget
to
me
is
number
one
priority
I
and
I
see
listed
here
top
priorities.
D
Only
four
aldermen
chose
City
finances
as
even
a
priority,
and
so
how
we
went
from
300
million
for
a
budget
to
400
million
for
a
budget
is
beyond
me
and,
like
I
said
so.
How
much
money
is
coming
in?
What
what
is
our
projected
income?
I
never
talked
to
Luke
about
it,
but
probably
I
should
have
before
this
meeting
15.
A
D
Okay,
whatever
so,
we
need
to
have
the
residents
not
only
involved
in
the
you
know
in
the
process.
In
the
conversations
you
need
to
figure
out,
one
of
the
priorities
should
be
to
figure
out
how
you
can
respond
to
Residents
public
comments.
I've
been
saying
it
for
four
years
time.
E
A
D
A
All
thank
you
very
much.
The
answers
are
here
in
front.
Thank
you.
We
now
moved
to
those
who
signed
up
to
give
public
comment
online,
beginning
with
Mike
masilko,
who
will
be
followed
by
Leslie
Williams
Mr
vasilko.
G
Thank
you,
I
I
did
join
got
to
a
computer,
because
I
couldn't
hear
anything
on
my
phone,
so
I
sent
a
note
last
night
I'm
just
following
up
on
that
I'm
not
going
to
repeat
it.
Climate
action
needs
to
be
your
number
one
goal
this
year,
you
in
my
opinion,
you
failed
to
support
climate
action
and
the
budget
that
you
prepared
for
2023.
G
That
doesn't
mean
you
can't
make
some
revisions
to
restore
some
of
that
money
to
the
to
the
sustainability
fund.
G
I
can't
believe,
I,
don't
believe
that
anybody
on
the
council
is
really
anti-climate
action.
I
do
believe
that
some
of
you
just
don't
understand
the
issue
or
the
problem,
maybe
you're
not
getting
it
or
maybe
you're
being
told
that
what
we're
doing
is
enough
that
it's
not
enough.
We
have
a
car
plan.
G
Basically,
two
parts
for
just
climate
action
and
climate
resiliency
resiliency
is
putting
the
Protections
in
for
the
disaster
when
it
hits
Evanston
and
action
is,
is
action
doing
real
things
to
cut
gas
off
of
anything
that
burns
fossil
fuel,
so
cars,
equipment
and
home
equipment,
and
your
businesses,
equipment
and
city
offices
and
and
buildings
to
just
shut
off
the
gas?
That's
that's
the
issue
and
that's
action
and
that's
what
I'm
looking
for
so
the
retort
to
this
is
usually
well
we're
hiring
two
people
for
the
sustainability
office.
G
That's
great,
but
it's
not.
It
has
zero
effect
on
climate
action
or
that
we're
going
to
put
solar
panels
on
on
some
of
the
city
buildings.
That's
great,
except
we
don't
know
one.
If
that's
going
to
happen
when
it's
going
to
happen
and
what
exactly
it's
doing,
is
it
shutting
off
some
gas
fire
equipment?
G
So
that's
a
question
or
somebody
will
say
I'm
sure.
Well
we're
going
to
do
this.
Net,
Zero,
Animal
Shelter,
that's
overpriced
and
we
don't
even
know
the
real
price
yet,
but
does
again
does
that
mean
there's
no
gas
being
supplied
to
that
building?
Do
we
know
if
that
building
is
going
to
be
built
because
you
don't
know
the
budget,
yet
we
don't
have
a
bid
for
it
yet
so
it's
my
perspective
has
always
been
the
action
side,
not
so
much
the
talking
side
and
the
resiliency.
G
H
Thanks
to
Mayor
biss
city
manager,
Stowe
and
city
council,
only
as
president
of
the
Community
Alliance
for
better
government
and
organization
with
over
200
of
instant
voters
as
members
and
here
are
concerns,
we
have
six
primary
goals.
Establish
a
plan
to
eliminate
structural
racism
within
the
Evanston
city.
Government,
establish
a
plan
to
increase
the
number
of
City
staff
living
in
Evanston
to
50
percent
within
10
years.
H
We
also
recommend
that
the
staff
participate
in
the
international
City
County
management
association,
the
government
Alliance
on
race
and
equity
and
the
Illinois
Municipal
league,
and
look
to
best
practices,
recommendations
in
creating
creating
policies
from
these
organizations
and
in
terms
of
housing
with
the
city,
revise
and
strengthen
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
for
provide
funding
and
staff
resources
for
a
newly
strengthened,
fair
housing,
ordinance
and
fully
fund
an
equitable
and
strong
rental.
Housing
inspection
program
and
I
will
send
our
full
list
of
goals
and
objectives
to
all
of
you.
Thank
you.
So
much.
A
A
J
Just
eighth
Ward
Ward
meeting
the
last
Thursday
of
the
month
at
6
pm.
A
That
concludes
call
of
the
awards.
We
now
move
to
the
main
item
for
the
day.
Our
the
second
part
of
the
city
council
goal
planning
session
I
want
to
thank
Dr,
Gila
Logan
for
continuing
to
help
us
through
this
process.
Your
leadership
of
our
discussion
last
time
was
I,
think
invaluable
and
we're
very
much
looking
forward
to
active
participation
in
part.
Two
thank.
L
A
Yeah,
please
don't
accuse
me
of
that.
L
So
good
morning
everyone
happy
New,
Year
I
know
it's
been
a
while,
since
we
last
met-
and
a
lot
has
happened,
I
feel
from
my
own
perspective
and
also
feedback
that
I've
received
from
various
people
that
we
had
a
productive
session
in
December,
and
we
came
up
with
the
10
items
that
we
are
considering
that
everyone
is
passionate
about
towards
being
potentially
the
goals
for
2023.
L
However,
we
also
all
agree
that
10
is
too
many,
and
what
we
want
to
do
today
is
to
narrow
it
down
potentially
to
four
to
six
approximately
goals
to
really
focus
on
for
2023,
since
we
last
met
I've
heard
from
several
people
that
relationships
on
the
council
have
been
challenging
and
challenged,
and
that
this
past
week
in
particular,
Monday
was
a
very
difficult
time
for
a
number
of
people
and
I
just
wanted
to
recognize
that,
and
because
that's
happened
since
we
last
met-
and
we
just
want
to
be
honest
with
that
and
at
the
same
time
not
allow
that
to
hinder
the
work
at
hand
today.
L
That
is
necessary
for
our
city.
What
we
are
looking
at
is
really
getting
alignment
on
what
you're
going
to
work
on
and
and
that
alignment
is
really
that
strategy
itself
is
a
tool
in
a
sense
it's
a
resource
for
hopefully
for
you
all
to
better,
be
able
to
work
together.
It's
not
that
you
can't
work
together,
but
just
to
be
to
improve
the
working
relationships,
need
a
strategy,
and
this
goals
planning
session
is
part
of
creating
a
strategy
for
you
all
to
better
work
together.
L
So
our
plan
is
essentially
to
get
these
10
points
down,
defined,
narrowed
down
and
prioritized
and
then
to
be
handed
over
to
staff.
So
today
we're
not
delving
into
the
details
of
the
benchmarks
and
the
metrics,
but
we
really
want
to
be
able
to
get
it
to
a
point
where
it
can
be
handed
over
to
staff,
so
they
can
step
into
their
skill
level
and
their
expertise
and
turn
those
into
resolutions
for
your
consideration.
L
A
Yeah,
thank
you,
Dr
Logan.
Let
me
just
two
items.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
add
councilmember
Nguyen
to
the
role.
Welcome
back
councilmember,
it's
great
to
see
you
healthy
and
council.
Member
Reed
has
a
question.
J
Coming
into
this,
it
was
going
to
I
didn't
have
time
this
morning
to
write
an
email
to
suggest
that
we
really
try
to
narrow
down
to
three
goals,
but
I
think
maybe
four
is
fine,
but
try
to
narrow
in
as
tightly
as
possible.
We've
got
two
years
left
in
our
term
and
I.
Think
just
for
us
to
really
narrow
in
and
focus
on,
something
on
on.
J
A
small
set
of
goals
will
really
help
I
think
make
some
progress
in
those
areas,
so
I
think
as
small
as
we
can
get
that
list.
The
better
and
I
say
that
as
the
person
who's
made,
the
most
referrals
and
probably
all
over
the
place
in
some
of
this.
So
thank
you
all.
L
Right,
thank
you,
anyone
else
and
just
to
say.
Actually
that
was
the
original
number.
It
was
three
to
six,
so
three
to
six
four
to
six
is
really
what
it's
not
my
determination,
it's
yours
and
whatever
you
feel
is
most
appropriate.
J
Yeah
and
we're
going
to
get
into
the
discussion,
but
I
got
an
opportunity
to
watch
councilmember
newsma's
award
meeting
recently
and
I
thought,
there's
a
pretty
good
suggestion,
a
pretty
good
suggestion
on
how
to
look
at
narrowing
our
goals.
Down
specifically,
you
know
what
are
the
things
that
are
most
measurable
and
so
I
thought
that
that
was
a
helpful
way
to
narrow
it
down
and
then
also
looking
at
what
are
the
items?
J
Maybe
Equity
I,
don't
think
carp
is
much,
but
certainly
Equity,
that
should
just
overlay
over
everything.
As
someone
said
at
your
ward
meeting-
and
you
know,
should
that
really
be
a
goal,
it's
hard
to
measure
progress
there.
So
I'll
just
leave
us
with
that.
Okay,.
A
C
You
Mr
Merrick,
the
discussion
at
my
War
I
mean
thank
you
for
watching.
The
suggestion
was
perhaps
to
have
some
guiding
principles
separate
from
a
delineated
set
of
goals,
so
because
guiding
principles
can
inform
any
number
of
different
activities
across
across
any
number
of
different
goals,
and
that's
you
know,
kind
of
in
alignment
with
our
what's
on
the
books.
Currently
we
have
we
had
five
goals.
C
We
added
a
sixth
when
we
added
carp
a
year
ago,
but
we
also
have
a
mission
statement,
a
vision
statement
and
a
a
list
of
four
organizational
values.
So
I'm
not
sure
if
we're
going
that
far
to
revise
all
those
or
kind
of
starting
over
again
and
we'll
see
where
the
process
takes
us
but
I'm
open
to
wherever
we
need
to
go.
L
Yeah
and
I'm
here
to
serve
you
all,
so
it's
whatever
you
feel
is
best.
My
understanding,
though,
is
today
we're
not
delving
into
that,
not
that
it's
not
important,
obviously,
but
today
was
really
focusing
in
on
the
defining
of
the
goals,
the
the
narrowing,
the
prioritizing
them
and
they're
narrowing
them
down.
L
So
before
we
jump
in
one
thing,
I
do
know
is
that
we
all
live
very
busy
lives
and
I
I.
Think
I
can
assume.
That's
that's
a
safe
assumption
here
and
I
just
want
to
ask
before
we
step
into
it.
L
If
we
can
just
take
a
pause
just
for
a
moment
and
just
to
breathe
and
just
to
be
present
and
I
just
want
to
I
know,
this
may
be
unusual
for
a
council
meeting,
but
just
to
pause
and
to
really
try
to
align
Us
in
the
present
moment
and
the
present
work
at
hand
and
to
really
Center
ourselves
within
ourselves,
because
I
mean
that's
where
it
all
begins
right.
L
That's
where
our
best
intentions
are
typically,
that's
where
the
issues
originate
and
I
just
want
to
take
a
moment
just
to
talk
us
through
some
breathing,
because
what
happens
is
when,
just
as
a
human
being
when
we're
tense,
our
bodies
constrict
and
the
first
thing
that
goes-
is
our
breathing
and
we
need
oxygen
to
think
clearly
and
to
be
president
to
be
well.
So
this
may
be
a
little
bit
unusual.
L
I
won't
take
it
too
far,
but
I'm
just
going
to
ask
if
you
can
engage
me
in
this
and
if
you're
not
comfortable
with
it,
that
that's
totally
fine.
If
we
were
on
Zoom
I
would
say
you
can
take
yourself
off
camera.
But
here
you
can't
do
that.
So,
just
briefly,
I'm
just
going
to
ask
if
you
can,
first
of
all
just
situate
yourself
physically
comfortably
just
to
sit
comfortably.
L
You
can
take
your
shoes
off
I,
don't
know
about
your
socks,
but
take
your
shoes
off
if
you
so
choose
and
I
would
ask
if
you
can,
if
it
works,
if
you
can
put
your
feet
flat
on
the
ground,
because
there's
a
psychological
aspect
to
grounding
ourselves
am
I.
Can
you
all
hear
me
loud
enough?
L
Okay,
to
grounding
ourselves
by
having
our
feet
flat
on
the
ground
and
I
would
ask
if
you
can
sit
at
a
you
know
with
your
back
straight
and
not
only
does
it
look
good
for
the
cameras,
but
it's
really
about
aligning
our
spine
and
where
the
energy
can
flow
to
our
brain.
So
if
you
can
find
that
position
and
just
put
your
hands,
however,
you
find
comfortable
if
that's
on
your
knees,
fold
it
in
your
lap
or
on
the
on
your
desk.
L
So
if
you
can
just
if
we
could
just
be
still
just
for
a
moment
in
silent
just
for
a
moment,.
L
M
M
M
L
L
L
Your
own
mind
your
own
thoughts,
how
you're,
feeling
and
I'll
ask
if
you
can,
however,
you
so
choose
just
to
I
know
we
tend
to
carry
a
lot
of
tension
in
our
neck
and
in
our
shoulders
and
our
traps.
So
if
you
can
just
if
you
feel
so
choose
just
to
loosen
up
your
your
device,
that's
on
your
shoulders,
your
head,
just
with
some
neck
rotations.
However,
you
feel
comfortable
if
you
so
choose
and
try
to
get
the
full
range.
If
you
can.
L
M
M
M
M
L
M
L
In
our
session
in
December,
I
asked
as
a
introduction
as
a
reintroduction
I
ask
people
to
provide
the
name,
your
purpose
for
serving
on
the
council
in
a
personal,
unknown
I'm,
going
to
spare
you
of
the
personal
unknowns
for
those
who
are
here.
I'm,
just
gonna.
L
If
you
don't
mind,
I'll,
just
repeat
what
you
stated
as
your
purpose
for
serving
on
the
council
and
I
just
want
to
start
with
that,
because
that
is
important,
that,
as
we
delve
into
difficult
conversations,
that
we
don't
lose
sight
of
the
reason
why
you
all
are
here
to
serve
that.
We
don't
get
that
we
don't
get
lost
on
that,
and
this
is
just
in
a
random
order.
L
So
mayor
biss
said
that
you're
excited
about
Evanston
being
a
model
for
Innovative
Innovation
and
justice
council
member
Kelly,
so
you're
hoping
we
can
do
a
better
job
of
representing
the
needs
and
interests
of
our
Evanston
residents,
particularly
our
low
and
middle-com
residents.
L
Councilmember
Burns
stated
that
he
wants
to
achieve
transformational
and
observable
change
specifically
in
the
Fifth
Ward
concert.
Memorabil
wants
to
make
a
bigger
impact
on
improving
the
sustainability
of
our
whole
community
council
member
Harris.
Serving
for
the
love
she
said.
The
servant
For
the
Love
of
my
community
councilmember
when
For
the
Love
of
public
service
and
solving
problems
for
people
councilmember
Reed
to
represent
those
who
are
at
least
proximate
to
power
council
member
headquarters
to
represent
my
community
and
city
clerk.
L
Mendoza
stated
that
she
understands
what
it's
like,
not
to
have
representation
and
city
manager
stole
stated
that
he
wants
to
ensure
that
he's
creating
the
best
possible
atmosphere
and
environment
for
our
employees
so
that
they
can
deliver
quality
services
in
an
equitable
fashion,
for
the
citizens
of
Evanston
and
for
those
who
were
not
here,
I
would
offer
you
the
opportunity
to
share
it
in
a
sentence.
Just
what
what
was
your
purpose
of
serving
on
the
council?
Dr
reminiscent.
C
I'll
have
to
revert
to
the
four
e's
that
I
campaigned
on
in
no
particular
order:
environmental
sustainability,
Economic,
Development
equity
and
engagement.
L
Thank
you.
Anyone
else
want
to
revise
their
statement
because
we're
going
to
hold
you
accountable
to
it
in
a
moment.
L
Okay,
but
but
you
know,
I
mean
I
know
those
are
just
words
and
those
are
statements,
but
they're,
important
and
I
I
take
those
as
part
of
your
commitment,
and
we
cannot
lose
sight
of
that
as
we
try
to
bring
all
this
together
for
a
focus
and
a
strategy
for
the
city
council
and
for
our
community
and
lastly,
before
we
jump
in
I
would
just
ask
if
you
can
just
share
one
word
how
you
feeling
coming
into
today's
session.
That
could
be
interpret
that,
however,
you
will
just
one
word:
you
can
go
random.
M
C
E
O
L
L
L
So
essentially
again,
and
and
we
can
revise
this
as
needed-
but
basically
we
want
to
define
those
drafted
goals,
develop
a
short
lists
for
three
to
six
and
to
prioritize
them.
If
we
can
accomplish
that,
we've
accomplished
a
lot
and
in
in
that
I
do
want
to
offer
a
friendly
reminder
that
for
one
the
the
funds
are
limited,
so
everything
can't
be
done
right.
Two,
what
may
not
fall
into
the
top
priorities
does
not
mean
it
is
not
important
and
three,
although
it
this
is.
L
This
may
be
a
difficult
process,
difficult
because
in
terms
of
coming
to
some
Focus,
but
it
doesn't
have
to
be
contentious
and
for
it
doesn't
have
to
take
all
day.
It
really
doesn't
I
mean
it
does
not
have
to
that's
really
contingent
upon.
You
want
my
facilitation,
but
it's
really
contingent
upon.
You
are
so
I'd
like
to
just
remind
us
of
our
community
agreements,
and
this
is
just
the
framework
for
engaging
in
these
discussions.
This
is
not
a
value
defining
process
for
the
city
council
and
for
the
city.
L
This
is
not
that
this
is
strictly
to
guide
our
conversation
today,
so
that
we
can
have
a
a
space
that
works
for
everyone.
You
all
can
speak
in
your
own,
authentic
voice.
Everyone
can
feel
safe
and
we
can
be
productive
and
we
can
revise
any
of
these
as
needed.
Otherwise
we're
going
to
hold
you
accountable
to
them,
so
one
just
to
participate
and
engage,
and
just
the
importance
of
when
people
state
things.
If
you
don't
understand
or
you're,
not
clear,
just
the
importance
of
asking
clarifying
questions
and
I
know
these
really
sound
like
common
sense.
L
But
when
things
get
tough
common
sense
is
not
always
so
common
right,
so
I,
just
as
these
are
just
as
a
reminder
and
just
the
importance
of
not
making
assumptions
and
to
expect
discomfort.
That
doesn't
mean
it
has
to
be
conflict,
but
discomfort,
because
this
is
a
this-
is
a
very
critical
and
important
process
that
you're
delving
into
and
that
within
itself
can
be
a
challenge
increase.
It
can
be
uncomfortable
for
people
and
non-closure,
because
this
will
not
be
perfect
and
there's
always
going
to
be
more
work
to
do
a
more
definition
to
land.
L
So
for
those
who
are
more
accustomed
to
speaking
on
the
mic
or
having
the
mic
in
their
hand,
I
ask
that
you
know,
say
your
piece
say
what
needs
to
be
said
and
we
can
move
on
so
that
all
the
voices
can
be
heard
then,
as
I
have
here,
to
engage
in
shared
Humanity
Community
before
Council,
because
we
again
obviously
you're
the
city
council.
But
before
that
you
all
are
community
members
and
you're
representing
our
community.
L
You
are
representing
One,
Evanston,
One
Evanston
and
even
before
that,
we're
all
human
beings,
and
hopefully
if
we
can
come
close
to
remembering
that
that
can
hopefully
lend
a
tone
to
our
discussion
in
terms
of
speak,
not
only
speaking
from
our
own
Humanity
but
relating
to
the
humanity
of
one
another.
As
colleagues
and
that's
just
really
important,
because
we
are
all
on
the
same
team
here
to
be
trustworthy,
so
we
all
want
to
be
trusted,
but
we
have
to
be
trustworthy.
First
show
that
trust
and
give
that
trust
and
then
hold
yourselves
accountable.
L
It's
you
know
too
often
in
these
types
of
discussions,
people
as
human
beings,
not
accusing
you
all
as
a
council,
but
we
listen
and
when
there's
something
we
don't
agree
with
we're
kind
of
just
waiting
to
offer
our
rebuttal
and
that
the
listening
goes
out.
The
window
I
mean
that's
just
a
that's
just
human
nature
and
I
just
want
to
challenge
you
to
really
stay
focused
on
understanding.
L
What's
being
said,
and
if
you
don't
understand
what's
being
said,
to
ask
the
clarifying
questions
so
that
we
can
have
the
productive
conversation
and
to
not
react,
the
difference
between
reacting
versus
responding
right
so
reacting
is
that
knee-jerk
reaction
that
first
emotion
that
we
speak
from
as
opposed
to
responding
where,
where
there's
some
intentionality
to
that
and
there's
a
different
thought
process
to
that,
a
shared
commitment
to
reaching
consensus.
I'll
talk
about
that
more
in
a
moment,
because
consensus
is
not
agreement,
because,
since
this
is
not
agreement,
that's
two
different
things.
L
L
L
The
fourth
one
is
to
be
forgiving
and
accepting
of
others,
but
also
of
yourself.
You
know
we
might
misspeak,
we
might
say
something
in
the
wrong
way
and,
let's,
let's
be
forget,
let's
offer
some
Grace
because
again
we're
all
working
towards
a
common
goal
here
and
let's
not
forget
that
and
in
doing
that
to
assume
the
best
and
not
the
worst
in
one
another,
because
you
are
as
Servants
of
our
community
I
assume
you're
all
here
with
the
right
intentions
and
I,
see
that
you
are.
L
But
we
want
to
be
reminded
of
that
and
to
accept
without
defending
and
debating
that
that's
a
tough
one,
accepting
doesn't
mean
agreeing
with
accepting,
doesn't
mean
liking,
but
to
be
able
to
accept
what
someone
says
accept
who
they
are,
except
how
they
say
it,
and
we
can
again
out
as
clarifying
questions
and
have
discussion.
But
that
does
not
have
to
be
turned
into
a
debate.
Necessarily.
L
The
fifth
one
is
to
stay
focused
on
the
topic
at
hand
and
that's
not
anyone's
Personal
Agenda.
That's
not
just
the
specific
agendas
of
the
wars,
but
that's
just
the
service
of
our
community
and
really
identifying
these
goals
and
prioritizing
them
and
practice.
Radical
listening
as
I
often
say
to
not
just
listen
from
your
ear,
but
listen
from
your
heart
and
to
really
again
with
some
compassion
and
some
empathy
and
really
seeking
that
level
of
understanding
and
last
everyone
has
the
right
to
be
right.
L
You
have
the
right
to
be
who
you
are
and
your
authentic
self
and
there's
no
apologies
that
are
needed.
We
shouldn't
you
know
so,
hence
there's
no
personal
attacks
at
that
level.
It's
the
everyone
has
the
right
to
be
vulnerable.
L
We
all
have
the
right
to
make
mistakes
and
when
we
are
showing
our
vulnerability,
we're
typically
showing
our
humanity
and
that
should
be
respected
and
handled
with
care
and
not
criticized
and
ridiculed,
and
we
have
the
right
to
speak
in
draft
mode
because
none
of
us
are
perfect
and
again
we
might
have
to
recant
something
that
we
said
or
how
we
said
it
and
let's
allow
the
grace
to
be
able
to
do
that
so
comments,
questions
concerns.
Are
you
ready
to
sign
this
contract,
so
we
can
move
forward?
Is
everyone
good
with
this.
L
L
So
then
what
I
would
like
to
do,
and-
and
this
is
this
process-
is
fluid
as
well.
We
can
modify
it
as
we
go
as
we
did
last
in
our
last
session,
but
the
idea
now
is
to
really
take
that
list
and
everyone
has
a
copy
of
the
10
items.
Okay,
great.
So
what
we
want
to
do
is
to
take
those
and
if
you
need
a
moment
to
take
a
look
at
them,
please
do
so
so
we
have
the
10
points.
L
L
L
Where
we've
it's
been
in
a
relationship
where
you
meet
someone,
you
develop
a
relationship
and
oh
I
love
you
and
I
love
you
too,
and
we
think
we
have
a
shared
understanding
and
relationship
only
to
find
out
that
things
don't
necessarily
go
as
we
thought
many
times,
because
we
have
a
different
definition
of
what
love
means
and
how
you
want
to
be
loved
may
be
different
than
how
I
think
you
want
to
be
loved
and
how
I
want
to
be
loved.
So
just
the
importance
of
defining
these
terms
before
we
consider
prioritizing
them.
L
Excuse
me
and
the
time
I'll
allow
you
all
to
determine
how
long
you
feel
you
need,
but
my
thought
on
the
first
step
is
we'll
get
into
three
groups.
We
have
our
tables
here.
If
you
want
to
spread
out
beyond
that,
that's
totally
fine
or
utilize
the
space,
as
you
need
to
take
that
list
and
be,
and
each
group
will
take
up
that
10
you're,
going
to
take
three
to
four
of
those
items
and
you're
going
to
come
up
with
a
one
to
three
sentence.
Definition.
L
L
A
And
just
for
purposes
of
bookkeeping,
let's
add
council
member
Burns
to
the
role.
L
I
would
like
to
give
us
a
reminder
in
some
context,
before
we
delve
into
that,
so
one
I
would
like
to
suggest
the
concept
of
smart
goals
and
I
know:
that's
not
rocket
science
I'm,
assuming
we're
all
familiar
with
that
and-
and
so
I
would
just
like
to
just
to
abbreviate
this
just
to
offer
it
as
a
quick
reminder,
because
I've
seen
a
variety
of
goals,
I've
seen
pass
goals
from
the
city
and
they
weren't
necessary,
not
that
it
has
to
be
a
smart
goal,
but
I
think
this
is
a
good
framework
so
that
it
is
whatever
it
is,
is
very
specific
right.
L
It's
very
specific,
because
goals
can
just
be
too
broad
and
too
all-encompassing
and
I.
Think
the
key
word
there
from
my
experience
is
the
action
like
the
action
word.
That's
really
important.
L
So
smart
is
measurable,
we're
not
delving
into
metrics
today,
but
it
should
be
measurable,
I
think
councilmember
Reed
mentioned,
like
Equity
as
an
example
like.
How
do
you
measure
that
I
mean
there
are?
There
are
metrics
for
that,
but
does
that
apply
as
far
as
a
goal
for
the
city?
You
know
that
that's
the
question.
I
think
that
was
on
the
table.
However,
you
want
to
be
able
to
measure
whatever
that
goal
is
so
specific
is
measurable
and
it's
achievable
I
mean
is
it?
Is
it
even
realistic
right?
L
Is
it
even
possible
to
to
accomplish
it's
relevant
I
mean
there's
what
you
all
do
as
a
council?
This
is
what
staff
does
there's
what's
specific
to
your
Awards,
but
this
what's
priority
for
our
city
and
for
our
community
and
that's
that's
the
that's
what's
relevant.
We
want
to
stay
focused
on
that
and
how
does
that
really
improve
our
overall
community
and,
lastly,
that
at
some
some
level
is
and
again
all
of
these
may
not
apply
to
each
one
of
those,
but
just
in
general,
a
general
framework
that
is
time-bound.
That
is
specific.
L
A
This
is
certainly
not
my
decision
to
make,
but
my
kind
of
practical
instinct
is
very
much
similar
to
what
councilmember
Reid
said
earlier.
You
know
here
we
are
pretty
close
to
the
midpoint
of
our
term.
I
think
it.
It
probably
makes
sense
to
view
these
as
goals
from
the
period
between
when
they're
enacted
in
May
of
2025.
that'll
be
my
own
suggestion
and
please,
if
anyone.
L
L
L
L
If
we're
seeking
that,
we
may
not
get
one
goal
as
top
priority,
so
it
is
not
that
it's
not
voting
on
competing
options,
so
we're
not
going
to
be
voting
on
it
per
se
in
that
manner
and
I'll
talk
about
what
it
is
in
a
moment.
L
It's
not
debating
it's
not
about
your
specific
word.
Your
specific
principles
was
specific
to
you
or
what's
the
priority
for
you
personally,
the
interest
at
hand
is
our
entire
community
in
our
city.
So
it's
not
about
debating
our
viewpoints.
It's
not
about
proving
that
we're
right.
It's
not
it's
not
going
with
the
lowest
common
denominator.
I
mean
that
that
that's
the
least
value
that
that's
not
we're
not
seeking
the
least
we're
seeking
for
the
most
here,
not
silent,
silence,
interpreted
as
consent.
L
We
don't
want
to
do
that
so
just
because
someone
is
silent
or
something
we
do
not
want
to
assume
that's
consent.
We
want
to
hear
from
everyone
because
silence
is
not
consent.
It.
It
really
is
not,
and
it's
not
just
going
with
the
the
microphone
mouth
or
who's
speaking
the
loudest
or
speaking
the
most,
the
most
intelligently
or
most
passionately,
and
that's
getting
on
board
with
that.
That's
not
consensus
either.
L
So
without
making
this
a
classroom
activity,
just
in
general,
what
consensus
is
so
a
group?
The
council
reaches
consensus
when
all
of
you
all
agree
upon
a
single
alternative,
and
each
of
you
all
can
honestly
honestly
say:
okay,
first
of
all,
I
believe
that
you
understand
me
I,
believe
that
I
understand
you
not
not
agree,
but
the
understanding
is
important
to
therefore
say
whether
or
not
I
prefer
this
decision
I
support
it,
whether
or
not
I
prefer
not
your
preference,
but
you
can
still
support
it,
one
because
it
was
reached
fairly.
L
It
was
reached
openly
and
it's
the
best
solution
for
this
community
at
this
time
at
this
time,
at
this
time,
not
forever,
but
at
this
time,
and
hence
as
we
can
speak
in
draft
mode,
what
we're
going
to
create
is
a
draft
as
well
so
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
out
there
for
food
for
thought
and
here's
a
in
a
couple
of
considerations
when
we
think
about
what
is
consensus
so
one.
What
are
the
blocks?
You
know
to
consider
that
so
fundamental
disagreements,
that's
obviously
not
consensus
in
these
standard
size.
L
You
know
I
can
support
this
goal
because,
but
so
you
know
just
go
ahead
and
do
it
without
me:
I'm
not
going
to
speak
and
that's
not
consensus
that
really
isn't
well.
You
know
what
I
have
reservations,
but
I
I,
guess
all
right,
I'll
find
I'll.
Let
it
pass
like
that.
That's
not
consensus,
building
that
that
speaks
to
that's
fodder
for
resentment
and
a
whole
lot
more.
So
it's
I
just
want
to
highlight
that,
so
we
try
not
to
fall
into
these
traps.
L
These
are
just
traps
of
humor
of
the
human
mind
of
human
nature.
Not
of
you
all,
specifically
any
agreement,
so
I
support
the
goal
and
I'm
willing
to
implement
it.
That
sounds
like
consensus,
and
it's
really
really
close,
but
really
here
I
would
say
it's
that
all
are
in
agreement
and
will
support
it.
L
Okay,
then
I
will
allow
you
all
to
get
into
your
groups
and
how
long
would
you
all
feel
we
want
to
go
into
and
we'll
divvy
them
up
in
a
moment
once
you
get
into
your
groups?
But
how
long
would
you
all
feel
you
would
want
for
this
portion
of
the
exercise?
I
have
my
thoughts,
but
what
do
you
are
so
so
you're
gonna,
so
each
group's
gonna
have
three
to
four
of
those
ten
items
and
you're
going
to
come
up
with
the
one
to
three
sentence
per
item.
L
So
you'll
have
three
items
of
four
and
come
up
with
the
one
to
three
sentence
that
description
using
that
father.
That's
on
that
page.
L
L
L
M
L
So
would
you
like
me
to
assign
or
okay
then
we're
just
going
to
make
this
real
simple?
So
you
all
take
one
two,
three,
you
take
four
five.
Six,
you
take.
Seven
eight
nine
and
ten
I
was
going
to
make
10
to
every
group,
but
I
decided
against
that.
So
one
two
three
four
five,
six,
seven,
eight
nine
ten
and
if
I
can
ask,
can
we
have
a
just
describe
your
notetaker
per
group
for
someone
to
take
notes?
Not
I
mean
not
your
individual
notes
but
on
the
white
paper
and
if
I
can
have.
L
I'll
have
one
person
to
be
a
presenter
to
present
it
to
the
group
and
another
person
to
be
our
task
manager,
meaning
keeping
everyone
on
task
on
Focus
to
the
topic
at
hand,
task
manager,
slash,
encourager,
making
sure
everyone's
participating
does
that
work.
L
And
the
presenter
could
also
be
the
encourager
if
you,
if
you
so
choose
to
make
sure,
but
but
that's
important
I,
don't
want
to
minimize
that,
so
let
so
let
me
just
highlight,
because
the
encourager
is
making
sure
everyone's
participating
and
not
one
or
two
people
dominating
the
conversation.
So
so
they're
encourager
is
saying.
Oh,
you
know
mayor,
that's
a
great
point,
but
I
would
love
to
hear
from
you
know
councilmember
burns
on
that,
like
what
do
you
all?
L
F
F
F
H
P
P
F
F
F
F
P
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
L
If
I
may
ask
for
a
quick
pause,
if
you
can
just
hold
your
thought,
okay,
I
know,
that's
not
the
case.
It's
just
a
check-in.
This
is
strict.
I
mean
we
probably
need
another
45
minutes
without,
moreover,
this
is
just
a
check-in
just
on
how
far
you've
got
number
wise,
numerically
you're
gonna
do
one
two
and
it's
not
a
competition.
You
are
it's
not
you're
you're
on
your
third
one,
okay
you're
on
two.
M
P
P
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
P
F
F
P
F
F
P
P
A
P
M
L
F
P
F
F
F
M
L
Ask
you
all
to
pause,
not
end,
just
to
pause
your
conversation
for
a
moment,
so
I'd
like
to
know
your
thoughts.
What
I,
what
I'm
thinking
is
we
and
I
I
just
put
the
smart
goals
up
there,
just
as
a
reference
point,
if
you
need
to
reference
that
at
all,
but
I
think
it
would
be
good
to
take
a
break
before
we
delve
into
the
definitions
of
these.
But
my
thought
with
that
process
is
each
table.
First
reads
it
out
loud,
allow
people
to
chime
in
before
it's
written
down.
L
That
does
not
mean
it's
written
in
stone,
but
before
it's
written
down
as
opposed
to
trying
to
change
it
from
that
point,
so
we
would
just
have
you
know
like
group,
one
read
the
first
one
people
chime
in
on
any
language.
We
can
revise
that
go
to
the
second
one
and
then
we
can
write
them
down.
My
question
is:
what's
the
what
what
repository
do
you
have
or
that
like?
Where
do
you
collect
all
this
data?
L
Oh,
that
would
okay
great
then,
that
yeah
that'll
make
it
a
whole
lot
easier.
Then
that
way
we
can
go
through
it
and
we
can
revise
it
in
that
moment.
So
I
think
we
do
that
and
get
to
the
same
page
on
a
common
page
with
the
definitions
before
we
prioritize
them
and
again
just
to
reiterate
just
because
one's
not
type
priority
does
not
mean
it's
not
important.
So
shall
we
take
a
break
now
we
good
for
that.
M
L
And
I'm
sorry,
yes,
everyone
shared
on
this
document.
That's
what
I
was
told
that
just
a
few
minutes
ago!
So
if
you
all
can
take
a
moment
and
put
your
topic
and
it
would
be
great
if
you
kept
it
in
the
order
in
which
it
is.
But
if
you
took
your
topic
typed
in
your
draft
definition
and
then
we
can
lightly
discuss
them
from
there.
L
F
L
M
F
F
F
L
L
L
Don't
I
don't
know
who
can
scroll
down
on
that
to
see
I
can't
I,
don't
know
who's
maneuvering
that
one!
Oh
there
we
go.
Okay,
wait!
So
we're
missing,
yeah!
Well,
so
what
so?
So
what
I
was
going
to
ask
is
if
you
take
your
definitions,
so
if
you
have
housing
number
one,
just
if
you
can
cut
and
paste
it
next
to
the
word,
housing
colon
and
then
place
your
definition,
so
we
can
kind
of
consolidate
it
so
housing,
colon
and
then
your
definition,
carp,
colon.
L
M
L
L
L
All
right,
so
we
got
the
herd,
mentality,
okay,
so
then
and
I
think
so
all,
but
to
who's
accessing
this
to
be
able
to
scroll
down.
Because
not
everyone
has
oh,
oh
I'm,
sorry
yeah!
So
if
you
all
can
or
for
the
two
of
you
all,
if
you
can
navigate
the
city
manager,
so
you
can
see
the
definitions
you're
looking
at,
because
what
I
want
is
everyone
to
be
able
to
look
at
them
first
on
your
own
terms,
to
read
them
and
then
we'll
have
our
discussion
on
them.
L
M
M
L
Job
well
done
you
all
we're
making
progress,
making
progress
and
the
temperature
is
still
nice,
and
even-
and
this
is
all
right-
it's
a
good
Saturday.
So
what
I?
Oh?
So
what
I
would
like
to
do,
then,
if
we
can
go
to
the
top
one,
so
this
was
Group
B
a
second
group
there
and
yes
and
I-
think
if
we
can
not
get
caught
up
in
too
much
of
the
Nuance
of
the
definition,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
like
just
the
essence.
L
The
essence
is
there,
we
can
word
Smith
it
at
any
other
point.
We
can
pull
out
the
thesaurus
and
all
of
that
fine
stuff,
the
basic
Essence.
The
Integrity
of
the
definition
is
the
main
point
here.
So
if
we
can
just
go
item
by
item,
excuse
me
and
if
there's
any
commentary
on
it,
we'll
offer
that
and
then
we'll
go
on
to
the
next
one,
because
then
what
we
want
to
do
is
to
get
through
the
10
of
those
and
then
once
we
have
a
com.
L
Hopefully,
is
somewhat
of
a
common
understanding
of
what
these
terms
mean,
then
we
can
begin
to
consider
the
prioritization
of
them.
Okay,
so
the
first
one
I
mean
I
can
read
them
out
loud
or
you
are
I,
mean
I,
think
you
can
see
them
yourselves.
How
do
you
want
to
do?
We
can
take
turns
reading?
Do
they
need
to
be
read
out
loud
or
should
they
for
the
record's
sake
or
okay,
great.
M
L
Are
you
okay,
great
and
as
I'm
going
to
ask
each
table
if
you
all
can
read
yours
aloud,
but
please
offer
no
explanation:
none
zero!
Unless
a
question
warrants
it.
Okay,
strictly
read
the
definition
or
ask
if
there's
any
comments
or
questions,
if
so,
we'll
address
it.
If
not
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
one
consensus
on
that?
J
J
Right:
expand
the
supply
of
safe
and
affordable
housing
in
every
neighborhood
in
Evanston
increase
the
number
of
rental
units
restricted
for
households
with
incomes
below
80
percent
of
the
Ami,
build
economically
and
racially
integrated,
neighborhoods
preserve
and
improve
existing
affordable
housing,
expand
resources
for
affordable
housing
and
provide
housing,
supports
and
services
to
most
vulnerable
individuals
and
Families.
L
J
All
right,
we'll
move
on
to
number
two,
which
is
equity,
develop
a
racial
Equity
action
plan
to
establish
Equity
as
a
foundation
of
fairness
and
impartiality
in
All
City
operations
complete
and
organizational
assessment
and
Implement
training
to
operationalize
equity
can
I
see
anything
group.
L
M
L
Have
just
one
if
I
may
that's
up
my
wheelhouse
there
Equity
and
it's
a
question
of
what
do
you
all
mean?
L
Not
what
I
think
I'm
just
posing
the
question
of
tentimes
I
know
a
lot
of
organizations
that
I
work
with
they'll
say
equity,
but
they
actually
mean
racial
equity
or
they
say
racial
equity
and
they
meet
Equity
engine
because
they're
not
synonymous
they're,
not
the
same
equities
are
much
more
broad,
comprehensive
term,
whereas
racial
Equity
is
specific
to
one
element
of
equity,
so
I
think
I
would
think
that
that
just
raise
what
to
me
seems
to
be
not
in
alignment
and
I
just
wanted
to
get
some
gain.
L
K
I'm
sorry
I
just
wasn't
supposed
to
talk.
We
talked
about
Equity
across
the
board
that,
if
we're
Equitable,
it
encompasses
every
aspect
of
the
business
of
the
city,
so
we
would
start
there,
knowing
that
we
have
places
that
we
have
to
have
a
higher
touch
point.
But
if
we
come
up
with
this
plan,
it's
all
encompassing.
M
C
Check
one
two,
so
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
we're
we're
only
talking
about
internal
city
of
Edmonton,
operational
Equity,
here
or
not.
M
C
I
J
J
Well,
I
see
I
operate,
I
mean
yeah.
If
there's
a
word
that
folks
have
that
maybe
makes
that
clear.
I'm
but
I
do
see.
You
know.
Operations
is
external.
What
we
operationalize
impacts
the
the
community
and
the
residents.
C
I
mean
it's
not
just
the
word,
it's
the.
The
first
is
understanding
the
concept
that
we're
talking
just
about
City
stuff,
or
are
we
talking
about,
for
example,
reparations
like
which
is
not
just
an
internal
thing,
with
staff
issues
and
HR,
but
finding
ways
to
ensure
funding
for
for
reparations?
Would
that
be
considered
under
this
definition?
As
you
understand
it,.
J
L
J
C
C
Q
Q
Say
that
unless
we're
gonna
select,
10
goals,
ultimately
I
think
instead,
because
this
is
going
to
take
a
really
long
time
to
do
this
exercise
on
all
10.
I
think
we
should
just
quickly
go
over
the
definitions
and
then,
if
again,
if
we're
going
to
only
have
three
or
four
spend
what
we're
doing
now
on
those
three
or
four,
because
we're
going
to
run
out
of
time.
Yeah.
L
I
I
agree
to
your
point:
I
was
just
seeking
Clarity
on
Equity
as
opposed
to
racial
equity
and
if
it's
internal
and
or
external,
but
the
nuances
of
that
I
think,
could
be
sorted
out.
But
I
think
there's
Clarity
on
that
that
we're
talking
about
Equity
as
a
broad
base
correct
and
we're
talking
about
both
internal
and
external,
facing
correct.
Okay.
So
now,
I
think
we're
good
on
that.
Then
yeah.
L
J
Oh,
my
apologies,
so
our
third
is
Achieve
our
2025
carp
goals.
We
we
think,
there's
a
or
I
won't
explain.
C
Yeah,
this
was
Economic,
Development,
invest
and
bolster
evanston's,
unique
identity
and
culture.
Foster
growth
and
stability
for
existing
and
new
Evanston
businesses
ensure
Pathways
to
economic
growth
for
residents.
J
C
To
Finance,
responsible
and
sustainable
stewardship
of
City
assets,
budget
and
asset
management,
reflecting
resident
values
and
Council
goals.
M
M
L
M
L
M
A
10
last,
but
not
yet
determined
to
be
leaves
we'll
see.
City
infrastructure
develop
a
long-funded
whoops,
take
two
develop
a
long-term
funded
plan
to
assess,
assess
needs
and
maintain,
improve
and
or
divest
of
City
infrastructure
to
ensure
the
highest
and
best
use
of
City
resources.
L
All
right.
Excellent
progress
is
made
Let's
recognize
that
as
we
go,
so
what
I
would
think
the
next
step?
What
I
would
suggest
as
a
Next
Step,
because
we
kind
of
think
about
it
in
three
buckets
one
is
okay:
are
they
just
definite
obvious
top-tier
priorities
that
we
have
consensus
on?
We
put
those
in
one
bucket.
Are
there
other
ones
that,
like
you
know,
is
there
consensus
on
it's
important,
but
it's
not
top
priority.
L
A
I
have
a
question:
you
know
the
exercise
we
just
went
through
helped
us
understand.
We
have
mutual
understanding
of
these
and
I
think
we
agreed.
We
don't
want
to
do
a
bunch
of
wordsmithing
in
advance.
A
You
made
the
arithmetic
point
that
I'm
sure
a
lot
of
us
noticed
that
item
number
one
had
a
bunch
of
stuff
in
it
is
when
we're
going
through
the
next
stage.
Do
you
want
us
to
go
through
that
stage,
as
though
all
of
this
is
in
number
one,
or
are
we
kind
of
assuming
in
the
back
of
our
minds
that
there
will
be
more
pruning
later.
L
It
in
my
thought,
I
think
it's
above
and
that
we
work
with.
What's
there
understanding
all
of
these
can
be
sifted
through
and
pruned
and
refined
thereafter,
not
not
changed
in
essence,
not
changed
in
definition,
but
the
muscle
number
one
obviously
had
a
lot
there.
If
we
need
to
sift
through
that
now,
if
you
feel
the
need
for
that,
we
can.
But
my
suggestion
would
be
for
good
with
the
essence
of
that
as
a
basic
definition.
We
work
with
that
and
then
understanding
is.
It
can
be
sifted
through
thereafter
and.
I
If
I
could
comment
on
the
number
one,
the
first
sentence
is
new
to
what
we
came
up
with
this
morning,
but
the
rest
of
that
those
bullet
items
are
from
our
20
2019
goal
plan.
So
those
are
those
definitely
in
my
view,
do
need
to
be
those
would
be
more
in
the
vein
of
action
steps
and,
and
they
need
to
be
revised,
so
I
would
say,
focus
on
the
first
sentence.
Q
C
K
C
For
example,
infrastructure
in
finance
seem
like
they
might
naturally
go
together.
Then
there
are
other
ways
that
we
might
be
able
to
combine
some
of
these
other
goals.
Any.
C
Finance
Finance
seem
to
go
seem
to
go
together.
Health
you
know,
might
go
into
Equity,
since
what
we're
seeing
under
Health
really
just
says
Equity.
So
maybe
those
go
together.
Maybe
you
know,
maybe
we.
If
we
expand
the
concept
of
equity,
we
can
include
the
housing
stuff
under
under
that
category
processing
Community.
Maybe
they
go
together.
Q
I
think
yeah,
public
health
and
Public
Safety
could
go
hand
in
hand.
I
don't
know
if
Equity
can
I
guess
what
I
would.
Q
Caution
is
to
me-
and
this
is
goes
to
something
you
said
earlier-
that
when
it
doesn't,
if
something
doesn't
make
the
list
of
goals,
it
doesn't
mean
it's
not
important
right,
but
certainly
in
the
way
that
I've,
you
know
worked
in
groups
to
create
goals
is
like
this
is
just
what
we
want
to
focus
on
like
really
put
extra
attention
on,
and
for
me
sometimes
that
means
because
we're
probably
not
putting
enough
tension
on
it.
Q
Now
and
I
I
start
talking
about
that
at
our
last
meeting,
there's
some
things
that
I
think
are
really
important,
but
that
we're
we've
already
emphasized
it
and
and
committed
to
working
towards
it.
Finance
is
one
of
those
for
me
personally.
I
know
it's
not
for
everybody,
but
just
the
fact
that
we
have
a
financial
budget
committee
and
on
a
regular
monthly
basis.
We're
having
discussions
about
our
finance
makes
me
feel
like
we've.
Q
We've
done
something
there
like
something
meaningful,
whereas
with
public
health,
you
know
when
I
look
at
the
e-plan,
not
necessarily
right,
like
I,
don't
I,
don't
see
that
same
level
of
commitment
and
attention
to
addressing
Health
inequity,
so
I
just
wanted
to
to
throw
that
out
there
I
think.
For
me,
this
is
just
like
what
do
we
really
want
to
focus
on
and
by
grouping
all
these
together
and
making
it
it
to
me
it
just
it's
gonna.
It's
a
lot
of
work
and
I.
Don't
know
if
we
can
reasonably.
J
L
J
J
We
got
two
years
left
I
think
we
there's
some
consensus
that
these
would
be
our
goals
for
the
remainder
of
this
term
and
I
mean
all
of
this
I
mean
I
could
make
an
argument
why
City
infrastructure
impacts,
public
health
and
you
know
making
a
more
walkable,
City
or
carp
or
whatever
so
yeah
I
think
we
should
leave
them
somewhat
where
they
are.
F
L
C
But
you.
L
Know
so
so
to
that
point,
I
was
going
to
ask
and
if
is
of
your
recommendations,
are
there
any
where
there
is
like,
for
example,
you
know
things
in
infrastructure
and
finance.
Is
there
consensus
on
any
of
those
suggestions
and
if
there
are
not,
then
I
would
suggest
we
leave
them
independent
and
move
forward?
If
there's
an
easy
consensus,
if
everyone
is
in
consent
to
say
you
know
what
in
your
infrastructure
and
finance,
we
can
combine
those,
then
we
do
that.
If
not,
then
we
don't
and
we
move
forward.
C
J
J
And
no
no
I,
you
know
I
think
you
know.
All
of
these
have
all
of
these
need
to
be
financed,
affordable
housing,
all
of
it
needs
funding
to
come
from
somewhere
and
quite
a
bit
of
funding.
If
we
want
to
make
measurable
progress
toward
these
goals.
J
C
L
So
so
what
I
would
suggest
is
we
go
forward,
as
is
considering
that
that
can
still
be
a
possibility,
not
that
it's
not
a
worthy
consideration,
but
at
this
point
for
the
sake
of
prioritizing,
we
keep
it
as
is.
Are
we
does
that
work?
Does
that
work?
Okay!
L
So,
with
that
I
go
back
to
my
other
question.
What
do
you
think
about
the
three
buckets
idea
like?
Are
there
just
obvious
ones
that
are
top
priorities,
consensus
on
or
ones
that,
like
you
know
what
the
not
that
they're
not
important,
but
we
there's
consensus
that
they're
not
top
priority
and
then
the
third
book
is
kind
of
evolves
on
its
own
yeah
yeah.
J
O
Afford
it,
can
you
hear
me,
affordability,
I,
think
it
is
part
of
that
that
you
know
in
the
housing
issue,
in
terms
of
people
not
being
able
to
afford
to
live
here,
whether
it's
low
income
or
middle
income,
so
I
see
that
as
sort
of
an
overarching
both
with
equity
and
housing,.
L
And
if
I
can,
if
I
can
just
add
briefly,
there's
not
a
necessarily
a
clear
defining
line
between
any
one
of
these
is
obviously
overlapped
right
and
what
we
don't
want
to
do
is
to
get
into
redefining
them
right
now,
as
opposed
to
working
with
we
developed
consensus
on
with
what
we
have
and
I
mean,
if
you
don't,
if
you're
not
on
with
the
idea.
Just
let
me
know
that,
but
I
just
think.
L
Q
I
was
gonna
say
for
me:
I
would
I
would
take
out
Equity
before
I
took
out,
affordable
housing
because
again
I
really
think
Equity
is.
Is
you
can
make
a
case
for
why
that
it
could
be
included
in
everything
that
we
do
in
the
city,
whereas
again
affordable
housing?
We
really
need
to
focus
in
on
what
the
definition
says,
at
least
in
draft
mode,
which
is,
you
know,
increase
the
supply,
and
that
does
need
a
you
know.
We
can't
just
let
Equity
necessarily
carry
us
all
the
way
there.
Q
Q
Hopefully
there's
some
support.
I
think
there's
some
support
to
move
that
over
so.
L
I
Additional
comment
about
the
affordable
housing,
the
there's
some
key-
it's
not
just
the
supply
in
general
is
that,
but
it's
also
that
we
increase
the
supply
in
all
parts
of
Evanston
and
the
key
to
that
is
going
to
be
the
revision
to
our
zoning
code,
which
is
something
that,
with
serious
work
on
our
part,
we
can
bring
the
community
together
to
agree
with
it's
going
to
be,
and
that's
something
that
I
think
is
the
timeline
for
that
is
within
the
next
two
years.
So
I
I,
really
I
agree
with
council
member
Burns.
Q
I
guess
it
just
depends
on
how
you
how
you
want
to
pull
us
like.
How
are
we
going
to
determine
consensus?
I
think
we
need
to
understand
that
just
so
we're
more
efficient
when
we're
up
there.
We
know
how
we
do
it.
We
call
a
roll
call,
you
know,
but
how
are
we
going
to
do
it
in
this
space?
I
think
it's
important
to
establish
that
yeah.
Yes,.
E
I
would
suggest
rank
Choice
voting.
We
could
do.
We
could
rank
our
rank,
our
first
first
four
or
five,
and
then
that
should
sort
out
our
priorities
and
then
maybe,
if
we
have
five,
do
we
want
to
stick
at
five
or
three
four
go
from
there?
We.
L
A
A
Q
Don't
know
one
way
to
look
at
it
and
I'm
not
knocking
this
issues.
I
think
it's
important
in
its
own
right,
but
I've
always
used
this
it's
hard.
We,
the
amount
of
time
and
effort
and
meetings
that
we
dedicated
towards
Harley
Clark,
is
not
the
same
that
we've
dedicated
towards
other,
really
important
issues,
and
so
to
me,
that's
how
I
look
at
the
goals
is
that
all
of
it
is
important
towards
running
the
city.
But
what
what
are
we
going
to
spend
that
level?
Q
Harley,
Clark
level
of
time,
effort,
money,
Etc,
trying
to
figure
out
over
the
next
year
or
two
and
I
think
that
same
level
of
commitment?
In
my
opinion,
we
need
to
dedicate
towards
Public
Health
in
affordable
housing.
So
that's
where
I
would
end
up.
We
have
not
met
as
much
on
those
issues
as
we
have
just
on
Harley
Clark.
In
my
opinion,
I
was
there
from
the
start
when
we
were
when
the
committee
was
formed
and
I'm
not
saying
that's,
not
an
important
issue,
but
we
get.
Q
Q
This
doesn't
mean
we
won't
discuss
it,
but
we're
gonna
put
it
on
a
slower
track
so
that
we
can
focus
more
staff
time
our
time
resources
Etc
on
these
things
over
the
next
year
or
two,
and
then
we
can
revisit
you
know
and
check
in
at
different
points
to
see.
If
we
want
to,
you
know,
make
any
adjustments.
L
L
M
L
I,
so
so
that's
an
objection
from
my
understanding,
so
you
object
so
I'm.
Sorry,
so
not
so
so
number
two,
let's
just
try
this
we
can
always
we
can
always
it's
a
both
thing.
We
can
do
that
as
well.
Number
two
Equity
is
there
consensus
that
that's
the
top
priority
in
the
top
four
to
six.
Have
any
objections.
J
Q
L
J
M
L
Q
L
I
From
a
background
in
the
list
where
we
operate
by
consensus,
especially
on
public
policy
issues
and
consensus,
is
not
unanimity,
it
is
a
general
sense
of
the
group,
and
so
there
can
be
one
or
two
people
who
disagree,
but
we
would
still
say
the
group
as
a
whole
has
reached
consensus
and
particular
issues.
So
I'm
concerned
that
we're
gonna
we're
looking
for
unanimity
and
we'll
we'll
be
in
big
trouble.
M
E
If
I
think
it
would
help
me
personally
to
see
us
if
folks
could
make
a
mark
as
to
what
they
think
should
be
our
priorities,
some
people
might
have
three.
Some
people
might
have
five
I
think
that
would
get
us
to
a
point
where
we
kind
of
know
where
we
have
a
general
consensus
like
if
we
have
seven
marks
six
marks
on
one
of
the
topics,
I
think
that
would
get
us
very
close.
E
L
So
if
I'm
reading
the
room
correctly
and
tell
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
because
I'm
hearing
that
if
this
was
not
on
there,
then
that
the
other
one's
not
going
to
be
on
there,
then
from
that
standpoint,
none
of
them
are
going
to
be
on
there.
That's
what
I'm
hearing
okay!
So
then
that
process
is
out
the
window,
because
that,
because
that's
not
going
to
work
right
so
then,
secondly,
I
would
suggest
we
do
what
I
think
I
saw
from
our
first
session,
where
we
have
the
list
this.
L
If
we're
having
well,
we
can
choose
the
number
five.
You
can
have
your
top
five
priorities.
We
Mark
those
that
we
can
visually
see
the
priorities
and
we
can
see
if
there's
consensus
or
not
does
that
work
for
most
people
here,
five
or
fewer?
No,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
five,
but
it's
that
number
five
is
five:
suffice,
no,
what
does
what
we
have
ten
so
we're
narrowing
it
down,
though
we
have
10.,
so
we
got
10,
but
now
we're
narrowing
it
down
to
five
okay.
So,
let's,
let's
do
that
for
our
top
five.
L
We're
gonna
work
so
so
so
we
have
the
ten
goals
already
you're
going
to
tap
up
to
five
choices,
we're
not
ranking
them
just
identifying
which
ones
you
see
you
as
priorities.
Let's,
let's
just
take
that
next
step.
If
you
need
a
moment
to
think
about
it,
go
ahead
and
think
about
it.
If
you're
ready
to
put
your
tally,
go
ahead
and
put
your
tally.
F
F
F
I
F
L
L
Is
so
if
I
may
just
to
keep
the
process
moving
forward,
so
so
two
things
before
we
get
to
that
that
I'm
kind
of
I'm,
sorry,
okay,
so
I,
know
finance
and
Equity
have
come
up
in
terms
of
like
how
much
those
merge
with
others
are
integrated
into
all
aspects.
M
L
There's
Equity
as
a
process,
there's
Equity
as
an
outcome,
there's
Equity
as
a
goal,
there's
Equity
as
a
value,
so
I
know
the
city
has
City
values
on
the
values
statement
and
is
equity.
Should
that
be
a
and
again
when
I'm?
Not.
This
is
not
for
debate
now,
just
throwing
this
out
there
in
terms
of,
if
that's
of,
if
Equity,
is
a
value
for
the
city,
if
not,
should
it
be
in
equity,
I'm
assuming
is
woven
in
to
all
of
these
aspects
where
appropriate
and
where
needed
that.
That's
my
assumption.
K
J
My
thought
is:
I
mean
going
to
counseling
Curtis's
point
about
ranked
Choice
voting
I
wonder
if
we
should
just
start
with
the
items
that
have
zero
votes,
one
vote
whatever
and
start
eliminating
things
and
moving
up
from
there.
And
maybe
you
know
if
you're
the
one
vote
for
nine.
L
Yes,
however,
I
just
wanted
to
say
in
terms
of
the
equity,
because
that
that's
a
sticking
point
and
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
out
there
because
again,
for
my
perspective,
Equity,
it's
a
process.
It's
a
goal.
It's
an
outcome
and
it's
a
value.
It
should
be
woven
and
integrated
into
every
aspect
of
everything,
as
opposed
to
I
mean
I.
Just
don't
know
how
you
detach
Equity
from
everything,
I
I,
just
I,
don't
it's
not
possible,
so
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
out
there
in
terms
of
equity.
L
Having
said
that,
so
we
have
the
10
categories
and
there's
one
that
again,
not
that
it's
not
important,
but
there's
one
that
did
not
get
a
tally.
There's
two
that
got
two
tallies.
My
question
is:
do
we
want
to
consider
those?
As
for
the,
in
the
sense,
the
parking
lot
items
in
terms
of
goals
that
are
not
the
priority
to
begin
with
for
the
city
council?
Not
that
they're
not
important,
not
that
you
wouldn't
get
to
them
at
some
point,
not
that
they're
not
necessary
because
they
are
but
do.
Is
there
consensus
on
that.
J
M
L
Of
of
the
priorities-
yes,
not
not,
yes,
off
the
priorities
off
of
the
priority.
Yes,.
H
L
M
P
K
We
need
to
operate
like
that.
It
isn't
how
we
operate
always,
but
that's
how
we
should
operate
so
again.
If
we
can
agree
for
our
Equity
that
that's
the
overarching
we're
going
to
have
process
and
procedures
that
are
transparent
and
all
of
that
then
I
I
will
acquiesce
my.
L
Yeah
I
was
trying
to
think
of
what
this
yeah
go
ahead
and
process
it.
So
we
have
well,
let's
Circle,
that
one
so
we
know
don't
don't
know
at
least
the
circle
yeah.
Just
let
me
know.
L
But
before
we,
but
before
before
we
proceed,
let's
just
recognize,
though
already
we
got
it
down
to
seven.
Okay,
let's
just
recognize
that,
so
we
got
it
down
to
seven.
Okay,
let's
not
Overlook
that
we
say
it's.
You
know
three
to
six.
Six
is
a
lot,
but
that
we're
looking
at
something
within
that
range.
So
as
we
move
forward,
just
consider
where
we're
at
so
now
two
is
the
next
two
is
what
oh
equity.
L
M
R
E
I
I
totally
agree
about
it
being
integrated
in
everything,
but
I
also
think
that
if
we're
looking
at
things
or
we
should
spend
extra
time
and
and
effort
on
I
feel
like
there
are
things
that
we
have
to
address
in
that
from
that
bucket,
and
so
that's
why,
even
though
I
agree
it
should
be
in
everything
I.
That's
why
I
put
it
in
one
of
the
stated
goals
is.
It
is
something
that
in
the
next
two
years,
we
really
have
to
do
some
extra
work
to
catch
up
to
resolve
some
things.
So.
Q
Knowing
with
those
things
are,
is
important
because
to
me
the
things
that
we
need
to
to
do
to
address,
Equity
fall
under
Public,
Health
fall
under
housing
fall
under
these
other
things.
So
if,
but,
if
there's
something
the
city
needs
to
do
from
an
infrastructure
standpoint,
that's
vastly
different
than
what
we're
currently
doing.
Then
that's
one
thing,
but
I
would
need
to
know
that,
because
we
have
the
equity,
empowerment
committee,
we
have
this
position
in
our
budget.
What
what
else
does
the
city
need
to
do
that
could
create
that?
Q
Probably
I,
don't
I,
don't
remember,
saying
infrastructure
but
yeah
if
I
did
I
didn't
mean
to
say
that
but
yeah,
basically,
what
I'm
saying
is
yeah
what
what
other?
No!
No,
not
okay!
I
know
why
I
brought
up
infrastructure
and
like
to
me
I,
look
at
boards
committees
and
commissions
as
part
of
right.
Our.
Q
Thank
you
for
that.
So
that's
what
I
mean
if
there's
some
other
big
thing
that
we
need
to
do
to
work
towards
it,
then
I
would
agree,
but
I'm
not
I'm,
not
sure
there
is
I.
Think
the
big
stuff
is
like
just
you
know,
dedicating
the
money
towards
again
Public
Health,
where
we
know
we
have
a
lot
of
Health
inequities.
You
know
housing
and
probably
some
of
some
of
this
other
stuff
as
well,
but
it's
yeah.
L
My
question
is,
since
equities
are
both
and
right?
Is
there
something
to
just
to
your
point?
Is
there
something
specific
to
equity,
I,
think
I
saw
what
was
it
Equity
audit
or
what
did
I
see
in
the
yeah
am
I
making
that
up?
L
Q
I
think
the
audit
is
part
of
would
probably
be
part
of
the
equity
empowerment,
slash
the
new
position
we're
bringing
in
that
would
be
a
part
of
their
work,
whether
it
made
it
as
a
goal
or
not.
I
think
that
they're
already
on
track
to
doing
that
I
know
they've
done
the
Equity
Apartment
commission
is
already
done
put
out
some
surveys
and
I
think
they're
gonna
they're
already.
You
know
on
that
on
that
course.
Okay.
L
J
L
Yeah
yeah,
however
I
mean
I,
think
we're
at
a
defining
Point
here,
because
I
was
just
kind
of
sifting
it
down.
So,
if
I'm
hearing
you
all
correctly,
if
we
took
Equity
off
of
here,
anything
that
currently
falls
under
Equity
would
still
be
covered
because
of
its
integration
into
all
operations
and
into
the
values.
Is
that
correct
from
my
understanding?
Because
I
don't
have
the
knowledge
you
all
do.
J
Go
ahead:
okay,
I'll,
just
well!
I
was
just
going
to
note
with
the
ranked
Choice
process
it
eliminates
the
primary
and
the
discussion,
the
additional
time,
I
I
wonder
if
our
time
is
give
again,
given
that
it
has
only
four
votes.
If
the
lobbying
efforts
for
those
items
should
change,
we
should
just
continue
down
this
process,
utilizing
the
principles
of
ranked
Choice
voting,
which
eliminates
the
primary
and
the
opportunity
for
that
additional
discussion.
K
The
concession
I
feel
like
I
could
make
is
if
every
single
one
of
these
goals
has
equity
in
its
def
in
its
definition
that
we
make
that
Primary
in
the
definitions,
then
I
feel
better
about
it.
I
feel
like
it
should
be
in
our
mission,
vision
and
organizational
and
that
it
is
the
leading
principle.
So
it
needs
to
be
one
of
the
first
things
we
stayed
in
there.
L
And
and
I
I
concur
with
your
point
and
council
member
Reed
to
your
point
as
well,
because
if
it's
integrated
in
every
aspect,
so
so
again,
the
audit
or
response
to
the
black
employee
letter
or
whatever.
That
is,
if
that's
woven
throughout
then,
because
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
doesn't
get
lost.
L
E
When
we
started
off
the
the
discussion
earlier,
we
said
we
wanted
to
get
to
three
to
six
goals
and
the
reason
to
narrow
down
the
goal,
like
obviously
we're
going
to
do
all
these
things,
but
also
keep
our
focus
and
not
be
completely
scatter,
shot.
I.
Think
if
we
said
right
here,
these
are
our
six
goals.
We're
not
really
because
the
reason
to
narrow
this
down
is
to
is
so
that
we
have
the
bandwidth
and
time
to
do
these
things
rather
than
scratch
Equity
off
the
the
top
list.
E
We
can
keep
it
on
because
we
know
we're
integrating
that,
and
we
know
that.
That's
something
that
we're
going
to
be
Pro,
giving
resources
towards
and
working
towards
and
I
think,
even
though
I
would.
Personally,
you
know
if
you
told
me
at
the
beginning,
let's
get
less
I
would
say
like
let's
get
less
than
six
goals,
I'd
be
fine,
saying
these
are
our
top
six
goals
and
go
from
there
and
I.
Don't
know
if
there's
consensus.
L
I
I'm
thinking
I'm
picturing,
the
the
big
poster,
that's
going
to
be
all
over
the
Civic
Center
that
lists
our
goals
and
what
we
don't
want
to
have
is
a
poster
that
doesn't
have
the
word
equity
on
it.
So
I'm
wondering
if
there's
a
way
to
have
like
a
I'm,
going
to
call
it
a
preamble,
but
it's
not
that's,
not
the
right
word
but
anyway,
something
at
the
top.
That
says
something
about
equity,
and
then
we
have
our
goals.
So
it's
understood
that
the
goals
are
income.
The
equity
encompasses
our
work.
L
O
Also
to
councilmember
Harris's
point
I
think
Paul
process
with
regard
to
transparency,
that
also
I
mean
insurers.
I
mean
pollsters
Equity,
so
I
feel
like
that
should
also
be
in
the
overarching
Preamble
thanks.
Q
Because
I
don't
want
people
to
think
that
we're
not
prioritizing
it.
If
anything,
if
you
look
at
the
hierarchy
on
the
city's
website,
how
it
puts
community
at
the
top
like
if
Equity
is
at
the
top,
it's
more
important
than
the
goals
goals
can
change
by
putting
at
the
top
is
we're
indicating
the
same
thing
we're
indicating
by
putting
the
community
there
that
this
is
the
number
one
priority
right
that
won't
change?
It's
mandatory
that
we
focus
on
Equity,
so
I,
don't
because
I
think
people
are
trying
to
use
the
goals.
Q
It's
just
you
know
to
indicate
to
the
community
that
we
care
about
this
and
I
understand
that
I
think
by
putting
it
at
the
top.
In
the
same
way,
we
put
the
community
at
the
top
of
that
one
landing
page.
If
we
could
pull
that
up,
it's
the
same
way,
I
see
the
councilman
reveals
point.
We
would
do
for
equity
on
all
the
posters
that
that's
at
the
very
top
right.
Along
with.
Maybe
you
know,
Community
engagement
as
well,
because
I
think
that
is
also
important.
Q
L
Q
So
your
accountability
has
to
be
there.
Accountability
has
to
be
here
for
everything,
let's
just
be
clear,
because
all
we're
doing
today
is
putting
words
on
papers
right,
whether
we
we
put
Equity
at
the
top
or
whatever
like
for
all
of
this.
We
still
have
to
operationalize
it
and
make
it
hold
ourselves
accountable
to
it.
So
yeah.
M
J
I
I
would
encourage
us
to
hone
in
even
further,
and
you
know
it's
I
think
what
folks
are
concerned
about
is.
L
J
L
J
Q
L
L
C
O
K
L
L
Let's
tally
those
go
ahead,
have
your
break
and
can
we
resume
back
in
what
works
for
you
about
10
minutes,
all
right,
10
minutes
so
we'll
say
quarter
two,
so
we
just
came
to
consensus
that
as
far
as
the
priorities,
that's
the
first
one.
Second,
third,
fourth,
fifth,
sixth,
now
we
can
all
go
home.
We're
done
no
I'm,
just
just
kidding
so
yeah
by
all
means
keep
eating.
As
you're
doing
I
know,
people
have
a
heart
stopped
at
1
30,
so
we'll
honor
that
so
we
have
okay.
L
So
we
have
it
narrowed
down
to
six
right.
There's
the
point,
because
six
is
a
lot,
but
six
is
within
the
range
given
these
six
is
there
I
mean
we
see
the
tally
as
well
I
mean.
Does
the
tally
speak
to
you
all
in
any
way
or
do
we
want
to?
J
Yeah
that
I
I
wonder
about
the
tally.
I
don't
know
if
economic
development
is
everybody
is
our
really
our
top
goal.
But
I
I
would
like
again
to
press
us
to
try
to
narrow
to
four.
J
So
we
and
again
again
all
of
this
stuff
is
important
right
and
you
know
I'm
I'm
still
going
to
be
pushing
for
things
that
have
to
do
with
infrastructure,
even
though
it's
not
on
our
list
and
I
expect
right
for
important
things
to
those
to
still
move
through,
but
I
think
honing
in
and
really
saying.
We
got
two
years
to
focus
on
something
and
make
some
deliverable
progress
on
the
on
those
few
issues.
What
are
those
things.
L
So
let
me
ask
just
as
a
starting
point
for
discussion
and
not
that
the
tally
is
the
definitive
answer,
but
considering
we
have
five
for
Public
Health
six
for
Public
Safety
now
I
understand.
There's
some
overlap
there
do
we
want
to
consider
in
terms
of
priorities
and
taking
some
off
of
the
list
or
re-prioritizing.
Q
So
what
I
was
going
to
say
is
that
I
would
look
at
if
we
were
going
to
consolidate,
consolidating
those
to
to,
and
the
only
reason
I
feel
like
there's
a
natural
fit
is
because
that
is
where
a
lot
of
I
mean
we
have
to
reimagine
the
Public
Safety
Committee.
We've
talked
a
lot
about
in
the
working
group.
I
share
another
working
groups,
just
there
is
a
real
connection.
Q
It
should
be
even
more
of
a
connection
between
how
we
look
at
advancing
our
Public
Safety
goals
and
and
how
we
look
at
advancing
Public,
Health,
they're,
they're,
really
inextricably
related
in
many
ways,
and
so
I
think
there
is
a
natural
kind
of
True
Fit,
even
if
you
look
at
just
best
practice
and
what
the
thought
leaders
of
this
space
are
thinking
about
so
much
so
that
there
are
some.
You
know,
cities
that
have
public
health
directors
over
the
police
department.
Q
You
know
that's
how
linked
they
are
in
some
places,
and
so
my
overall
concern
is
that
I
would
not
want
to
I
I,
really,
don't
know
what
else
we
can
do
in
terms
of
effort
on
finance.
I
know
we
have
to
have
it
in
here,
because
you
know
our
core
responsibility
as
a
legislative
and
fiduciary
one,
but
I
certainly
wouldn't
want
to
drop
it
off
for
public
health
because
we
have
a
finance
and
budget
committee.
Q
Similarly,
to
what
our
the
conversation
I
will
councilmember
head
to
college
about
like
what
else
can
we
do
with
Equity
the
same
thing
with
Finance
like
what
other
effort
or
amount
of
money?
Are
we
gonna?
What
are
we
going
to
put
it
towards?
That
would
change
the
way
we
Finance,
but,
in
my
opinion,
I
think.
We
definitely
need
to
do
a
lot
with
public
health.
We
have
a
very
sobering
e-plan
that
we
need
to
reckon
with,
and
I
just
I
would
feel
very
uncomfortable,
dropping
that
really
any
of
these
off,
but
definitely
Public
Health.
What.
Q
I
would
feel
really
uncomfortable
at
it
like
dropping
really
any
of
these
off
at
this
point,
I
think
they're
all
really
important,
but
I
would
I
think
consolidating
public
health
and
Public
Safety
could
potentially
work.
Okay,
if
you
want
to
drop
it
to
five.
Yes,.
I
And-
and
that
was
exactly
what
I
was
thinking
so
I-
think
that
makes
that
makes
a
really
good,
combined
goal.
C
L
L
Q
Because
there
is
a,
there
is
a
lot
of
different
work
involved
in
each,
especially
because
there
is
yeah,
so
I'm,
fine
with
six
I
mean
I'll
just
keep
and.
A
I
mean
I
guess
just
in
full
full
sort
of
capitulation,
that
I'll
say
I'm
comfortable
in
the
name
of
consensus,
accepting
a
point
of
view.
That
would
not
be
my
first
choice,
but
my
my
initial
instinct
is
quite
similar
to
councilmember.
Reads:
I
think
that
we
have
suffered
in
general
during
the
course
of
these
last,
nearly
two
years
from
a
lack
of
focus
and
I.
Think
if
we
given
that,
if
I
were
to
make
a
recommendation
for
this
process,
it
would
be
that
we
err
in
the
opposite
direction.
A
I,
don't
think
we're
going
to
look
back
on
this
eight
months
from
now
and
say:
oh,
we
really
wouldn't
give
ourselves
enough
to
do,
but
I
think
we're
at
risk
of
looking
back
and
saying
we
didn't
narrow
our
focus
enough
and
so
again
my
my
own
preference
would
be
to
as
painful
as
it
is.
For
me,
too,
at
this
stage
continue
narrowing.
Q
I
think
one
way
to
another
way
to
look
at
this
is
you
know,
because
we're
doing
a
work
plan
as
part
of
the
nweb
committee
is?
Is
you
don't
really
understand
the
amount
of
work
and
effort?
That's
involved
until
you
get
a
level
deeper
than
this,
and
so
I
think
for
the
time
being,
there's
a
chance.
We
could
keep
it
at
six
to
now
start
to
understand
like
out
of
these
goals.
What
do
we
really
want
to
achieve
in
each
area?
Q
We'll
get
a
better
sense
of
the
amount
of
effort
and
resources
needed
and
if
we
need
to
cut
back
at
that
point,
we'll
still
have
an
option,
but
this
this
doesn't
tell
us
much
about
effort.
It
tells
us
so
much
about,
and
so
we're
kind
of
making
assumptions
we're
assuming
that,
because
they're
six
there's
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
do
it
all,
but
we
really
don't
know
what
we
want
to
do
in
each
area
and
how
much
time
and
effort
it's
going
to
take
for
each
one.
J
I
will
concur
with
that
I
think
you
know
with
that
being
said
to
folks,
if
there
is
consensus
around
getting
a
deeper
understanding
of
what
each
of
these
categories
really
means
that
we
might
be
at
a
good
Breaking
Point
to
let
this
resonate
come
back
to
our
next
time,
and
if
we
want
to
want
to
win
even
more,
we
can
win
a
win,
but
we'll
have
that
deeper
understanding
of
what
each
of
these
really
means
and
maybe
even
have
a
more
fleshed
out
definition.
A
Items
each
one's
got
a
few
sentences
describing
it
Dr
Logan
had
spoken
at
the
top
of
this
session
about
then
handing
those
off
to
staff
to
then
prepare
measurable
goals
for
our
consideration.
My
question
is:
are
you
saying
do
that
with
these
six
and
I?
Don't
necessarily
disagree
with
that?
I
just
want
to
name
that
it's
going
to
be
pretty
hard
to.
A
Q
And
I
would
say
there
are
one
reason:
I'm
lobbying
not
just
about
the
e-plan
but
lobbying
as
much
land
for
public
health,
because
we
are,
we
are
in
the
middle
of
working
on
something
myself:
director,
ogbo
director,
flax
and
members
of
Our,
Community
Health
Community
on
a
I,
think,
a
really
a
big
initiative
similar
to
the
guaranteed
income
program
and
so
I
think
we're
I
think
he's
ready
to
show
us
something
that
that
we
could
kind
of
measure
and
focus
on
for
the
for
the
next
year
or
two.
Q
Q
I
think
it's
different
than
equity
and
even
Finance
there's
some
real
money
involved
like
some
real
money.
You
know
and
it's
the
difference
between.
Do
we
put
that
towards
a
health
program
or
a
public
safety
one
or
a
cart
one
or
whatever,
there's
there's
real
money
involved
for
sure,
so
I
think
it.
It
needs
to
be
up
there.
So
we
we
know
whether
or
not
we're
willing
to
you
know
make
that
commitment.
Okay,.
L
Q
Because
of
the
money,
okay
yeah,
so
I
I
agree
with
what
councilmember
Reed
said,
I
think
similar
to
how
we
had
before
we
narrowed.
We
had
like
a
exercise
before
we
narrowed
I
think
we
should
have
another
exercise
before
we
narrow
again
and
that
could
be
staff
coming.
You
know
kind
of
looking
into
these
and
then
and
then
we
can
come
back
at
the
next
meeting
and
see
if
we
want
to
continue
to
narrow,
okay
and.
J
Yeah
and
well
why
I
will
also
say
this
important,
because
our
group
had.
J
What
Bobby
was
just
saying
and
our
group
had
carp
and
our
definition
was
achieve
our
2025
goals
and
we
started
looking
through
some
of
those
2025
goals
and,
to
be
quite
honest,
I,
don't
know
how
achievable
by
2025
some
of
those
are
and
so
I
think
having
staff.
You
know
go
back
and
look
at
this,
and
maybe,
unfortunately,
maybe
carp
drops
off
because
we
just
realized.
We
can't
meet
our
2025
goal
and
I'm
not
saying
I'm.
Sorry
and
I
park
was
one
of
my
top
things
too.
Hypothetical
hypothetically.
C
L
L
I
would
say
meat,
but
I'm,
a
vegan,
so
some
more
substance
to
it
for
further
consideration,
because
the
process,
because
this-
because
it
is
a
process,
it
hasn't
defined
or
been
ended,
there
is
that
are
we
is
that,
is
there
any
dissension
on
that
any
consent?
I'm
sorry
you're,
going
to
make
a
comment.
What
the.
E
If
the
only
one
I
could
see
that
would
be,
could
do
the
similar
thing
that
we
did
with
Equity
would
be
to
include
Finance,
because
that
should
be
a
part
of
all
our
operations
to
drop
that
off
I.
Don't
know
how
what
the
feeling
would
people
have
on
that.
Q
Because,
like
Bobby
said
too
many
people
that
aren't
prepared
to
do
that,
which
is
why
I
haven't
even
made
that
case,
you
know
so
I
think
just
for
the
sake
of
consensus,
just
moving
all
three
along
for
now,
I
mean
six
I'm.
Sorry,
so
good
with
that.
L
So,
okay,
so
then,
so
that
sounds
like
a
good
spot.
We
reached
it
right,
so
we
got
these
six
I'm
gonna,
pass
it
on
to
staff,
allow
them
to
develop
some
metrics
and
some
more
substance
to
it.
Bring
it
back
to
you
all
for
further
consideration
and
then
at
that
point
something
might
come
off
the
priority
list.
L
Something
might
be
merged,
I
mean
anything
could
happen
at
that
point,
but
so
it's
not
over
and
the
things
that
are
not
on
the
priority
list.
Now,
not
that
they're
not
important,
but
again
we
have
to
start
somewhere
and
there
are
limited
resources,
and
this
is
just
simply
saying:
here's
where
we're
going
to
start.
Here's
our
Focus
for
the
next
couple
of
years.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,.
K
So
I
have
a
question
because
those
seem
like
really
broad
strokes
and
our
staff
is
already
over
taxed
and
I
I
hear
what
the
mayor
had
to
say:
I'm
worried
about
just
saying:
come
up
with
something
for
housing,
I'm
wondering
if
we
not
here
today,
but
we
have
these
bullet
points.
Are
we
going
to
provide
them
with
those
as
well?
Are
we
going
to
recreate
them
now
that
we
have
different
definitions
but
I?
K
Just
think
that
is
we're
not
being
responsible
council
members,
if
we
just
give
them
these
broad
Strokes
say
come
up
with
something
they
come
up
with
some
bring
it
back
and
we're
like
yep
nope.
We
don't
that
wasn't
the
direction
we
weren't
going
so
I'm
just
wondering.
L
A
You
know,
certainly
it's
I,
think
critical
for
us
to
hear
from
Luke
on
this
question.
My
own
instinct
is
that
Luke
was
here
for
this
whole
session.
Allison
was
here
for
almost
the
entire
session.
We
have
we've.
You
know,
we've
written
out
these
definitions.
We
have
the
bullets
from
before
I
think
we'll
be
available.
Speaking
for
myself,
I'll
make
myself
available
to
work
with
staff
on
these
I
I.
A
Think,
and
you
know,
to
Dr
Logan's
point
we're
handing
these
to
the
sergeant
matter,
experts
who
are
already
engaged
in
this
work-
it's
not
it's
not
they.
They
don't
live
in
a
blank
slate
either
so
I
I,
my
instinct,
is
that
we're
giving
them
enough
to
go
on,
but
Luke,
do
you
want
to
weigh
in
on
this.
N
I
think
council
member
Harris
makes
a
great
Point.
They
are
large
buckets,
but
to
the
mayor's
point
we
do
have
a
lot
of
notes,
especially
from
the
first
session.
I
think
we
have
enough
to
go
on
to
get
started
and
obviously
we're
going
to
be
bringing
back
our
recommendations
to
you
all
and
I'm,
a
I'm
sure
there'll
be
edits
and
suggestions,
additions
and
deletions,
and
then
we
can
further
refine
from
there.
M
M
L
We
go,
we
got
the
endorsement
from
Madison,
it
is
done.
Okay,
so
are
we?
Are
we
good
at
it?
We
got
a
good
stopping
point
and
it's
time
to
spare.
This
is
like
it's
time
for
another
debate.
Well,
I
mean
it's
it's
ten
after
we're
near
in
time,
but
the
time's,
not
the
relevant
point,
I
think
it's
the
progress
that
we
made
and
again
I
just
want
to
underscore
going
back
from
the
beginning
of
our
first
session,
all
the
way
till
now
it
has
not
been
it's.
L
Never
a
neat
process
really,
and
it's
meant
to
kind
of
roll
your
sleeves
up
and
get
a
little
sloppy
and
messy,
but
respectful
and
I
I
feel
that
we've
been
able
to
do
that
and
I
I
I
think
you
all
had
I
know
that
you
all
have
made
a
lot
of
well
thought
out
well-intended
progress
and
you
know
I
just
hope
you
can
recognize
the
work
that
you've
done
because
I
mean
this
looks
real,
simple
here
right,
but
it's
we
know.
What's
so
simple,
it's
not
always
easy
and
how
complicated
it
can
be.
L
So
I
just
want
to
recognize
you
all
for
the
work
that
you
did,
the
time
that
you
put
into
the
process
and
I
appreciate
you
all
adhering
to
the
process.
It's
not
a
perfect
process,
but
we
worked
it
out.
We
figured
it
out.
We
got
some
outcomes,
got
something
to
work
with,
and
so
the
process
goes
we'll
take
it
to
the
next
stage,
and
you
all
will
have
some
considerations
to
move
forward
with
to
consider
I'm
sorry,
some
recommendations
to
consider
to
move
forward
with
so
yeah.
Maybe
this.
A
H
A
Seriously
with
this
discussion,
thank
you
to
cleric.
H
A
To
Luke
to
Allison,
this
is
really
important.
It's
really
really
critical
for
us
and
I
think
thank
you
to
the
the
public,
all
members
of
the
public
for
participating.
You
know.
Initially,
each
each
member
of
the
public
have
the
burden
of
representing
26
000
community
members,
and
shortly
after
we
had
one
person
representing
all
78,
so
good
work,
and
given
that
and
knowing
that
we
still
have
important
work
ahead
on
this
topic,
there's
nothing
further
to
come
before
us
today.
L
All
right,
good
job,
you
all
and
I've
already
heard
from
a
Community
member,
some
very
positive
feedback
from
this
session
already
yeah.
So
congratulations.