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C
A
Eight
members,
having
answered
the
call
the
role
a
quorum
is
present
and
we
are
prepared
to
do
our
work.
We
begin
with
my
public
announcements
and
I
have
really
just
one.
This
is
going
to
be
the
last
regular
meeting
of
city
manager,
erica
storley
and
I
think,
in
light
of
the
distinguished
and
lengthy
service
that
she's
given
to
the
city.
I
wanted
to
say
a
thank
you,
give
a
show
of
my
own
appreciation
and
hope
others
will
join
me.
D
A
The
city
manager's
office,
before
too
long
after
that
was
deputy
city
manager
and
eventually
interim
city
manager
and
then
city
manager,
and
I
just
want
to
say
on
a
personal
two
things.
First
of
all,
it's
hard
for
me
to
imagine
a
more
difficult
public
sector
challenge
than
running
a
government
body
during
a
pandemic,
difficult.
A
For
a
number
of
reasons,
but
most
of
all,
because
it's
the
kind
of
thing
that
you
can't
really
be
prepared
for
and
I
think
the
results
in
the
evanston
community
about
how
we
handled
that
really
speak
for
themselves,
and
I
think
we
all,
we
all,
owe
eric
a
real
debt
of
gratitude
for
that
sort
of
extraordinary
set
of
challenges
that
she
took
on
and
held
with
with,
I
would
say,
striking
success
and
then,
additionally,
just
you
know
coming
in
as
mayor
for
me
personally
in
an
environment
where
I
had
not
worked
in
municipal
government
before
where
a
lot
of
things
were
new
to
me.
A
And
you
know
beyond
that.
I
just
think
it's
important
to
acknowledge
erica.
Some
has
devoted
a
tremendous
amount
of
time
to
this
community
she's
raising
her
family.
Here
she
has
four
kids
in
king
arts
and
she's.
Given
us
a
lot-
and
I
would
just
hope
that
we
could
you
could
all
join
me
in
saying
a
big
thank
you
to
erica
for
all
of
your
service.
E
All
right,
thank
you
for
that.
I
really
appreciate
it.
It's
a
little
surreal
that
this
is
my
last
council
meeting.
E
I've
sat
through
so
many
council
meetings
that
I
thought
would
never
end,
so
we
have
to
start
off
with
something
funny,
I'm
extremely
fortunate
to
have
had
the
opportunity
to
work
with
so
many
amazing
community
members,
staff
and
elected
officials
over
the
course
of
my
time.
Here
we
collaborated
in
the
spirit
of
shared
progress,
and
I
can
only
hope
you
learned
as
much
from
me
as
I
did
from
you.
E
E
I'm
humbled
by
your
kind
words
and
grateful
that
I
had
an
opportunity
to
make
a
positive
impact.
I
also
want
to
say
a
big
thank
you
to
my
wife,
christy,
my
daughters,
keegan
jade
parker
and
my
son
river
always
remember
to
take
the
high
road
believe
in
yourself
and
know
that
hard
work
will
take.
You
places
you
never
dreamed
of.
E
E
D
F
I
I
will
be
brief,
but
mr
lee
or
manager
storyline.
Thank
you
for
your
service.
You
know
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
work
with
you
as
in
a
number
of
roles
over
the
last
going
on
five
years,
so
it's
it's
been
great
working
with
you
and,
as
I
said
when
we
started
this
term
that
you
are
truly
an
inspiring
person.
F
Your
story
is
inspiring
and
I
hope
folks,
you
know
across
our
city,
regardless
of
their
feelings,
about
this
council
about
you,
whoever
just
recognized
how
inspiring
you
and
your
story
are,
and
so
thank
you.
G
G
H
Well,
city
manager
story
in
my
five
plus
years
on
the
council.
I've
really
appreciated
so
many
things
about
working
with
you.
H
I
especially
value
your
long-term,
creative
thinking
about
options
and
opportunities
for
us
and
and
then
you
help
us
put
the
pieces
together
to
move
us
toward
those
opportunities,
and
I've
just
really
been
amazed
at
the
the
ideas
that
you've
helped
us
think
about,
and
that
have
really
moved
us
forward
and
I
think
we'll
we
will
keep
moving
forward
towards
those
ideas
in
you
know
going
forward.
H
I
really
appreciate
your
patience
in
explaining
to
me
and
to
my
fellow
council,
members
and
residents
of
the
city
to
you
know,
help
us
understand
some
really
complex
issues
about
city,
government
and
city
finances,
and
it's
not
been
easy
for
us
to
appreciate
the
depth
of
information
that
we
need,
but
you've
always
been
patient
in
helping
us
learn
what
we
need
to
learn
to
make
wise
decisions
and-
and
then
I'm
just
echoing
what
you
said
tonight
about
your
staff.
H
I
really
appreciate
how
you've
celebrated
your
staff
all
along
and
really
made
sure
that
we
acknowledge
the
the
work
that
they
do
and
you've
really
helped
them.
I
think,
provide
the
kind
of
services
that
our
residents
really
demand,
we're
pretty
demanding
community
and
you've
really.
D
I
I
I
You
kept
your
hand
on
the
wheel
during
a
very
difficult
pandemic
and
you've
taken
our
town
through
that,
and
I
will
always
remember
that
and
more
importantly,
during
the
transition
of
our
previous
city
manager,
you
made
it
very
smooth-
and
I
know
going
into
this
budget
season-
that
we're
going
to
miss
your
institutional
knowledge
and
I
pray
that
if
no
one
else
please
take
my
call
if
we
run
into
issues,
but
I
wish
you
and
your
family
all
the
best.
I
I
keep
you
and
your
family
prayed
up.
I
A
Well,
thank
you
again
just
want
to
echo
what
the
others
said,
thanks
for
all
you've
done
for
this
community,
and
we
wish
you
every
bit
of
success
and.
A
You
know,
I
don't
think
council
member
faithfight
is
gonna,
be
calling
for
for
advice
on
the
questions
moving
forward.
So
so
thank
you.
Thank
you
again
for
for
all
that
you've.
Given
us,
it's
not
something
that
we're
going
to
forget
with
that.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
city
manager's,
public
announcements.
B
A
This
brings
us
to
public
comment
and
with
a
number
of
different
items
on
the
agenda
that
have
attracted
significant
public
interest.
A
I'm
afraid
that
we're
going
to
have
a
minute
and
15
seconds
per
commenter,
so
I
will
do
my
best
to
enforce
that
with
clarity
and
equity,
and
I
appreciate
everyone's
understanding,
knowing
that's
not
not
a
ton
of
time,
but
you
have
essentially
40
40
fellow
residents,
who
are
trying
to
make
sure
their
comments
are
hurt
as
well.
So
as
usual,
we'll
begin
with
those
who
signed
up
in
person
to
speak
in
person,
starting
with
ray
friedman.
J
Good
evening,
everyone
first
I'd
like
to
echo
all
the
comments
from
from
everyone
from
the
mayor
about
erica
storley.
Thank
you
for
your
16.
J
And
I
appreciate
working
with
you
and
I
wish
you
all
the
best
so
hope
you
won't
count
that
against
me
good
evening
once
again
everyone.
J
J
Could
it
be
through
dialogue,
public
forum
referendum
survey,
but
you
need
to
determine
what
is
the
will
of
the
people?
There
are
more
than
53
000
registered
voters
here
in
evanston
over
forty
five
hundred
in
the
fifth
in
the
fifth
ward
and
over
sixty
three
hundred
in
the
second
ward.
So
again,
what
is
the
will
of
the
people.
A
J
J
M
Good
evening
my
name
is
vicky
pasenko
and
I
am
the
executive
director
of
the
evanston
animal
shelter
tonight
you
will
decide
the
future
of
the
shelter.
I
have
spoken
to
most
of
you
over
the
past
week,
and
I
know
that
you
have
heard
the
pleas
from
your
support
of
support
from
your
constituents
and
that
you
understand
that
this
building
is
more
than
a
place
for
stray
and
abandoned
animals
to
find
new
homes.
It
is
a
community
center
where
people
come
to
find
help
and
to
help
each
other.
M
It
is
a
place
that
celebrates
the
human
animal
bond
and
provides
support
to
those
struggling
to
keep
their
four-legged
family
members.
The
current
facility
is
inadequate
and
must
be
replaced,
or
it
will
close.
Please
provide
your
approval
tonight
for
the
city
funding
needed
to
keep
the
evanston
animal
shelter
alive.
Thank
you
very
much.
N
We
can
get
the
new
building
that
evanston
desperately
needs
and
pay
about
half
the
cost
that
new
building
will
allow
our
organization
to
continue
serving
the
residents
of
evanston,
such
as
through
our
food
pantry.
That
gave
way
over
fifty
thousand
dollars
worth
of
pet
food
in
2020
and
our
custodial
program
that
provides
shelter
for
animals
when
their
families
are
facing
financial
or
medical
hardships
or
domestic
violence
situations.
O
N
P
P
One
road
will
allow
the
shelter
to
continue
to
save
our
homeless
animals
and
provide
services
to
pet
owners
and
our
community
who
need
them
most.
The
other
will
cause
the
shelter.
To
close,
I
urge
you
to
choose
the
road
that
provides
the
city's
portion
of
the
funding
needed
to
keep
the
evanston
animal
shelter
operational
and
delivering
vital
services
to
our
city.
Thank
you.
Q
Good
evening
my
name
is
erica
morales
and
I
live
in
the
sixth
ward.
I
am
speaking
in
support
of
the
evanston
animal
shelter
improvements.
I
have
been
a
volunteer
of
the
evans
animal
shelter
for
three
years
and
it
has
been
a
rewarding
experience
that
has
brought
me
so
many
new
friends
and
helped
me
realize
that
working
with
and
helping
animals
is
a
passion.
For
me.
This
shelter
is
so
extraordinary
because
of
the
chances
that
they
give
all
animals
that
come
through
the
doors.
Q
A
good
portion
of
dogs
and
some
cats
that
come
to
eas
would
be
euthanized
at
most
other
shelters
because
of
their
breed
or
behavior.
But
not
here
my
current
dog
sable,
I
met
while
volunteering
she
was
dog
and
people,
reactive
and
most
volunteers
were
scared
of
her.
Eis
gave
her
a
chance,
and
after
six
months
of
living
with
me
and
training,
she
can
now
be
around
other
dogs
and
peoples
with
no
reaction.
Q
R
R
The
march
2021
survey
results
showed
that
of
the
three
parks
recommended
by
city
staff
as
possible
dog
park
sites
considerably
more
residents
support
at
the
clark
square
location.
Clark
square
is
a
very
underutilized
lakefront
park
along
sheridan
road.
It
has
parking
ample
space
and
a
beautiful
setting.
R
The
objections
stated
by
neighbors
really
came
down
to
a
privileged,
not
in
my
front
yard
attitude.
I
urge
you
to
view
this
as
an
equity
issue.
Property
owners
along
the
lake
do
not
own
the
lakefront.
A
well-designed
dog
park
with
attractive
fencing
will
not
quote
spoil
the
lakefront.
Indeed,
the
city
should
use
the
property
to
to
encourage
residents
not
fortunate
enough
to
live
along
the
lake,
to
have
a
reason
to
enjoy
the
lakefront
as
well.
R
R
D
Shapiro
great
good
evening,
everyone
it's
a
pleasure
to
speak
to
you
again
after
well
prior
to
the
next
budget
round,
for
the
library,
I'm
here
to
speak
in
support
of
the
clark
square
as
a
site
for
the
dog
park
since
nature
took
the
dog
beach
several
years
ago
and
does
not
seem
to
be
willing
to
give
it
back
to
us.
Providing
an
off-leash
space
in
east
evanston
for
dog
exercise
and
socialization
both
for
the
dogs
and
humans
would
be
a
really
positive
public
good
that
could
come
out,
especially
since
the
project
is
potentially
funded
fully.
A
S
T
Good
evening,
mayor
biss
city
manager
story,
mrs
mendoza
city
club
members
of
the
evanston
city
council,
I
know
you're
going
to
approve
the
five
fifths
tiff,
but
I
have
the
minority
report
that
needs
to
be
part
of
the
record.
Please
do
not
support
or
approve
of
88
r21
65021
66021
67021.
There
has
been
no
proactive
engagement.
T
There
is
no
benefit
for
elderly
people.
In
my
situation
there
is
no
benefit
to
any
individual
currently
living
in
the
fifth
ward
and
the
face,
and
the
sale
of
public
property
to
a
developer
in
this
community
is
a
disgrace.
This
is
a
fiasco
and
you're
perpetrating
a
fraud
on
my
community.
This
is
a
disgrace.
T
U
Thank
you,
priscilla
giles,
fifth
ward,
to
quote
city
manager
story
that
a
few
people
few
devoted
people
can
change
the
world.
I
urge
strongly
urge
you,
council
members
to
vote
no
for
the
fifth
five
fifth
tip,
which
even
you
have
publicized
as
increasing
property
values
and
it
will
and
also
property
taxes
and
the
completion
of
gentrification
and
decrease
decrease
the
diversity
that
you
so
honestly,
maybe
brag
as
taxes
go
up
so
goes,
rent
and
so
long-term
seniors
and
low-income
residents.
U
V
Since
it's
the
inception,
evanston
animal
shelters,
trap,
neuter
return
program
and
community
cats
program
has
assisted
upwards
of
275
cats
in
evanston
in
the
community.
An
example
of
this
impact
of
this
program
has
had
is
this
summer
in
a
two-week
time
span
and
a
one
block
radius.
Five
adult
cats
were
humanely
trapped,
spayed,
neutered,
vaccinated
and
returned
one
cat
was
a
male
four
cats
were
a
female
all
were
unsocialized
strays
that
were
not
suitable
for
adoption.
All
five
were
cared
for
by
community
members.
V
Had
this
important
program
not
been
put
in
place
that
one
block
in
a
year's
time
could
have
potentially
been
overrun
by
upwards
of
50
cats.
I
get
these
numbers
based
on
one
female
cat
can
have
three
litters
of
kittens
per
year
with
approximately
four
kittens
per
litter.
Without
the
shelter's
intervention,
the
community
stray
cats,
population
would
have
increased
dramatically
and
could
have
possibly
become
unmanageable.
V
Currently,
there
is
no
space
for
these
cats
and,
and
they
are
while
they
are
awaiting
surgeries
and
recovering
afterwards.
My
garage
has
currently
been
that
space.
These
cats
are
provided
surgical
services
through
other
organizations,
because
the
shelter
does
not
have
a
medical
treatment
area
and
an
isolated
recovery
space
for
these
cats.
O
Just
kidding
good
evening,
honorable
everybody,
I'm
allie
harned
from
the
second
ward
peter
and
I'm
also
a
social
worker
in
the
district
65
in
my
17th
year
and
my
first
year
in
a
new
position,
that's
a
district-wide
position
created
to
help
address
the
mental
health
needs
of
children
and
their
family
families
across
the
city.
That
said,
I'm
speaking
as
a
community
member,
but
one
with
relevant
work
experience
that
I
hope
you'll
bear
in
mind.
O
I
do
not
profess
to
be
a
tif
expert
by
any
stretch,
but
I
have
been
trying
to
learn
as
much
as
possible
and
I've
reviewed
the
resolution
that
you're
scheduled
to
be
voting
on
tonight
and
in
case
any
council
members
not
here
who
might
say
that
any
community
member
is
ignorant.
I
even
highlighted,
like
I
studied
this
thing
and
I'm
trying
to
understand
why
it's
important
that
it's
voted
on
tonight.
O
O
O
I
do
like
some
of
the
provisions
in
the
tiff
and
I
think
that
the
possibilities
for
affordable
housing
and
repairs
will
be
great,
but
I
hope
that
that
would
be
a
goal
of
this
city
with
or
without
a
tif
you're
getting
the
funding
through
taxes.
You
can
do
that.
You
can
make
those
priorities
happen.
So
I
ask
you:
what
is
the
hurry?
Please
do
not
pass
this
tip
tonight.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
black.
A
The
that
concludes
the
people
who
have
signed
up
to
speak
in
person.
So
we'll
now
move
to
the
folks
who've
signed
up
to
speak
online,
beginning
with
former
council
member
dolores
holmes.
X
Good
evening,
thank
you
mayor
best
to
the
city
council.
I
know
I
have,
I
think
it's
one
minute
and
15
seconds,
so
I'm
going
to
take
my
15
seconds
just
to
say
thank
you
to
erica
stalley,
because
erica
was
there
my
whole
term
from
205
to
217
and
erica.
I
have
lots
of
wonderful
memories
and
I
know
how
dedicated
you
are
to
the
city.
X
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
for
that
and
then
I'm
here
to
speak
tonight
on
behalf
of
the
fifth
ward
tiff,
and
I
am-
and
I
I
wanted
to
speak
tonight
only
because
I
hear
all
the
time
that
there
you
hear
some
people
getting
up
and
talking
about
not
voting
for
the
chief.
But
there
are
many
people
out
in
the
fifth
board
who
have
been
wanting
to
have
a
financing
tool
since
2005
and
2006.
X
So
this
is
not
nothing
new
for
some
of
us
and
I
hope
that
the
council
will
listen
and
understand
if
you
want
to
talk
about
equity.
This
is
where
we
want
to
begin
to
make
sure
that
we
make
the
fifth
ward
as
equitable
as
the
rest
of
the
community.
So
I
just
asked
the
council
to
please
consider
that
to
vote
for
it
because
it's
needed
in
the
fifth
ward.
Thank
you.
A
A
Y
Z
Good
evening,
everyone,
my
name,
is
kate
gray
and
I'm
a
resident
of
the
fourth
ward.
I
am
in
strong
support
of
the
evans
animal
shelter
association's
request
for
funding
to
build
a
new
facility.
This
project
is
very
important
because
it
will
benefit
both
the
animals
and
the
citizens
in
the
community,
largely
because
the
current
facility
has
major
structural
and
functional
deficits,
and
these
include
an
unreliable
hvac
system
and
a
lack
of
isolation
areas
for
sick
animals.
Z
As
a
former
volunteer,
I
know
the
shelter
will
use
the
space
to
their
best
of
their
abilities.
This
organization
is
truly
run
by
the
most
passionate
patient
and
extremely
knowledgeable
experts
in
animal
rescue
and
we're
extremely
lucky
as
a
community
to
have
their
leadership
here.
So
the
shelter
also
has
an
extensive
volunteer
community
who
will
benefit
from
serving
the
animals
of
evanston,
and
I
can
personally
attest
to
the
positive
impact
volunteering
had
on
me
during
a
very
difficult
time.
Z
In
my
life
I
moved
to
evanston
four
years
ago,
and
the
shelter
was
the
first
place
that
I
felt
a
sense
of
community
after
moving.
So,
in
summary,
this
new
facility
will
positively
impact
the
community
in
many
ways,
by
providing
a
safe
and
functional
location
to
house
the
animals
of
evanston
until
they
are
ready
to
move
to
their
proper
homes.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
your
consideration.
A
AA
AB
Hello,
my
name
is
my
name-
is
natan
with
lubet
a
lifetime,
lifelong
evidence
resident
and
currently
the
operations
director
for
the
evanston
animal
shelter,
I'm
here,
obviously
to
speak
in
favor
of
proposal
about
the
new
shelter.
But
specifically,
I
want
to
highlight
the
pet
pantry
program
that
the
shelter
enacted
several
years
ago,
currently
the
shelter
provides
food
assistance,
as
well
as
other
supplies
for
40
to
50
families
a
month.
AB
A
new
facility
will
enable
us
to
take
greater
advantage
of
prices
and
negotiating
food
and
other
assistance
for
supplies,
as
well
as
create
a
friendlier
atmosphere
for
people
when
they're
coming
for
assistance
for
them
and
their
pets.
Please
support
this
proposal.
AC
AD
AD
Okay,
members
to
kel
found
the
second
word.
I'm
I'd
like
to
just
briefly
address
the
request
that
you
have
in
front
of
you
from
the
parks
and
rec
staff
about
the
dog
park,
a
second
dog
park
in
evanston,
and
they
have
done
incredible
work.
Their
process
has
been
amazing
and
they've
done
a
lot
of
research
and
they
have.
AD
They
have
really
engaged
the
community
in
this
process,
but,
as
you
can
see
from
your
packet,
they've
run
into
a
lot
of
roadblocks,
and
it's
like
revisiting
history
for
me
and
several
others
in
the
city,
because
in
1998
in
in
the
late
hecky
powell
and
cheryl
janice's
living
room,
several
of
us
dog
owners
hatched
the
plan
that
we
brought
to
the
parks
and
rec
department
in
evanston
asking
for
a
dog
park.
At
that
time
we
did
not
have
one,
and
at
that
time
we
were
told
there
are
no
parks.
AD
AD
AD
At
the
time
and
we
and
that
park
has
been
built,
so
I
understand
that
the
difficulty
in
finding
another
part
in
the
city
we
went
through
that
process.
I
would
ask
that
tonight,
as
you
consider
the
four
options
in
front
of
you
from
council
or
from
your
staff,
that
you
consider
the
the
fourth
option,
which
is,
if
you
cannot
find
a
park
in
our
city
that
will
that
will
work,
and
I
have
a
lot
of
doubts
about
that.
Since
we
went
through
that
that
you
consider
on
reallocating
some.
AD
A
AA
Good
evening,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
we
can
okay.
Thank
you.
I'd
like
to
speak
about
the
evanston
animal
shelter
in
august
of
2019.
While
I
was
at
work,
there
was
a
fire
in
my
apartment,
one
of
my
neighbors
who's,
a
volunteer
at
the
shelter
called
9-1-1.
Then
he
called
vicki
at
the
shelter
my
cat
and
two
dogs
were
taken
to
blue
pearl
animal
hospital.
The
shelter
assumed
total
responsibility
for
the
immediate
care
of
all
three
animals.
AA
The
following
day.
The
dogs
were
released
to
the
care
of
the
shelter.
At
that
time
I
was
living
in
a
hotel.
The
dogs
stayed
at
the
shelter
until
they
were
fully
recovered
from
smoke
inhalation,
and
then
they
went
into
temporary
foster
care.
Until
I
was
able
to
move
into
a
new
home,
I
don't
know
what
I
would
have
done
without
their
help.
It
was
a
lifesaver
for
my
pets
and
for
me,
this
shelter
provides
irreplaceable
resources
for
the
city
of
evanston.
A
AF
AF
Earlier
this
year
I
was
faced
with
a
complete
sewer
failure,
a
piece
of
of
sewer
pipe
that
connected
to
the
main,
which
is
approximately
16
feet
below
golf
road
completely
dislodged
broke
crushed.
Whatever
from
the
sewer
main,
I
was
faced
with
having
to
hire
special
plumbing
contractors
that
could
dig
down
that
deep
use,
the
special
equipment
that
was
needed.
You
provide
the
specifications
for
this
for
the
state
of
illinois
for
filling
the
hole
after
it
was
dug,
etc
for
the
cost
of
45
thousand
dollars.
AF
Ten
percent
of
the
value
of
my
current
home,
I'm
asking
the
public
works
committee,
as
well
as
the
city
council,
to
please
think
of
a
way
to
help
residents
in
my
position
by
sharing
the
cost
of
these
extraordinary
sewer
repairs,
I'm
not
talking
about
a
normal
sewer
repair
that
might
be
as
much
as
ten
thousand
dollars,
which
in
and
of
itself
is
bad,
but
when,
when
costs
go,.
AF
It
is
a
very
bad,
a
very
difficult
burden
for
homeowners
to
bear.
Thank
you.
A
AG
Hello,
my
name
is
tanya
ohanian.
I
just
bought
an
apartment
in
the
8th
ward
and
I'm
currently
the
canine
director
at
the
evanston.
D
AG
Shelter
we
take
in
up
to
150
stray
dogs
per
year.
Some
are
healthy,
some
are
sick,
some
are
friendly
and
some
are
behaviorally
challenging.
If
the
new
building
is
not
funded,
the
animal
shelter
will
close,
and
where
will
these
animals
go?
Will
they
roam
the
street?
How
will
the
city
of
evanston
handle
the
issue?
Are
we
prepared
to
have
the
full
burden
of
handling
these
dogs
fall
to
residents
in
the
police
department?
Please
give
your
approval
for
adequate
funding
of
the
new
building,
so
we
can
continue
to
care
for
these
dogs.
AH
AI
AI
This
letter
is
sent
on
behalf
of
the
board
of
education,
evanston
skokie
school
district
65.
As
I
believe
you
all
are
aware,
the
district
65
board
of
education
has
significant
concerns
with
the
five
fifths
tip.
While
these
concerns
do
include
the
incremental
taxes
that
will
be
diverted
from
the
district
for
23
years.
As
noted
at
the
tiff
joint
review
board
meeting
our
c
by
our
cfo,
the
board
has
broader
and
more
significant
concerns
regarding
how
this
tip
will
impact.
Fifth
ward
residents.
AI
That
are
residing
in
the
proposed
tip
district
and
consequently,
our
entire
city,
which
we
brought
to
you
all
additionally,
on
july,
26,
2021
and
discussed
in
our
open
session
meeting
on
july,
29,
2021
and
emailed
mayor
biss,
alderman
burns
and
city
employee
zalmanzak
regarding
on
july
30th
as
well.
A
For
a
second,
so
your
your
time
is
already
up.
Obviously
it's
important
for
us
to
hear
from
the
school
district.
I
know
there
is
at
least
one
other
member
of
the
school
board
who
had
signed
up
to
speak.
Do
you
know
if
they
were
also
planning
on
reading
this
letter
or
if
they
had
separate
separate
items
they
wanted
to
discuss.
A
Got
it
well,
so
I
guess
there's
a
few
options
one
would
be
to
to
you
know,
read
let's
say
to
the
bottom
of
the
second
paragraph
in
both
english
and
spanish,
because
the
letter
goes
on,
I
think
longer
than
we
have
time
for
it's
also,
of
course,
a
part
of
the
record.
How
would
you
prefer
to
proceed.
AI
Residents
who
we
both
represent
the
board
is
optimistic
that
we
will
be
able
to
agree
to
final
terms,
but
if
we
do
not,
the
district
will
not
support
the
proposed
five
fits
tip,
and
that
should
be
a
part
of
the
public
discourse
and
institutional
decision
making.
For
this,
too,
therefore,
we
believe
it
is
in
our
community's
best
interests
and
respectfully
request
that
the
city
council
hold
off
on
voting
on
the
fifth
tip
until
a
district
65
city
of
evanston
iga
is
finalized.
AI
A
S
Thank
you.
I'm
gene
ferrone
from
the
sixth
ward
and
the
evanston
animal
shelter
facility
has
been
inadequate
for
a
long
time.
The
previous
organization
running
the
shelter
was
raising
money
for
improvements
and
expansion,
but
that
money
left
with
them.
It
is
seven
years
since
they've
gone
and
the
situation
has
really
become
extremely
critical.
S
The
city
now
has
the
chance
to
accept
three
million
dollars
to
help
offset
the
cost
of
a
new
building,
and
yes,
the
city
will
need
to
provide
two
and
a
half
to
three
million
in
matching
funds,
but
what,
if
that
doesn't
happen?
If
funding
isn't
approved,
it's
not
a
mat
it
it's
a
matter
of
when
not
if
the
current
facility
will
have
to
close.
In
addition,
there
will
need
to
be
a
plan
b
for
handling
all
the
situations.
The
stray
and
abandoned
animals
would
create.
S
S
A
AJ
Good
evening
my
name
is
joanne
cromer
and
I
am
a
long
time
resident
of
the
fifth
ward.
I
am
in
support
of
the
tf,
the
tif
for
the
fifth
ward,
and
I
am
asking
the
council
to
support
it
vote
for
it.
I
echo
alderman
holmes
and
miss
whitlow,
as
my
reason
for
my
a
for,
for
the
reason
I
am
requesting
that
you
support
it.
Thank
you.
A
AK
My
name
is
atina
danner.
I
want
to
offer
my
thanks
to
all
the
community
members
offering
their
time
and
service.
Thank
you.
I
currently
own
and
reside
in
home
in
the
second
ward
and
previously
have
rented
in
the
third
ward.
Fifth
ward
residents
are
our
neighbors
and
I'm
one
of
a
growing
number
of
evanston
residents
that
think
that
what
is
referred
to
as
the
five-fifths
tip
should
not
go
forward
at
this
time.
AK
Can
you
explain
within
the
five
fifth
tips
area
where
development
is
not
occurring
and
why
it's
been
claimed
that
this
tif
is
going
to
help
residents
in
the
tif
area?
And
I
believe
you
have
a
responsibility
to
explain
more
about
who
is
being
helped
and
how,
especially
if
this
will
raise
taxes
in
such
a
way
that
makes
residency
less,
affordable
to
or
otherwise
negatively
impact
renters
expecting
benefits
as
a
result
of
the
tif.
I
respect
the
fifth
ward
residents
who
ask
to
make
their
ward
more
equitable.
AK
As
a
city
we
deserve
to
know
the
details
of
how
that
equity
would
be
achieved.
District
65
is
estimating
a
10
million
dollar
deficit
in
the
24-25
school
year.
How
is
this
tiff
going
to
impact
the
school
district?
Why
aren't
these
resources
being
prioritized
to
directly
support
public
schools,
libraries
and
other
systems
that
benefit
the
entire
community?
Please
be
accountable
to
your
constituents
by
offering
details
as
an
educator
and
parent
and
a
person
who
desires
a
just
and
equitable
society.
L
AK
Running
into
problems
with
accountability
and
transparency,
I
hope
the
city
council
will
do
its
part
towards
rebuilding
the
public
trust
by
slowing
down
answering
these
questions
and
making
sure
that
whatever
you
decide
prioritizes
community
wellness
and
equitable
opportunities
for
the
entire
city.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
AL
A
AM
It's
really
impressive
what
the
shelter
has
done
with
the
sheer
lack
of
resources
at
their
disposal
if
you've
toured
the
shelter
you've
seen
that
it's
cramped
and
dark
and
crowded.
When
I
visited
the
first
time
there
were
kittens
being
vetted
in
a
bathroom,
all
the
dog
cages
were
full
and
it
was
hot.
Despite
these
circumstances
and
seemingly
round-the-clock
care
with
limited
space,
the
staff
was
nothing
but
positive.
Warm
and
welcoming
each
time
I
stepped
foot
in
the
building.
Their
mission
is
also
a
personal
one
to
me.
AM
After
working
with
the
staff
one
on
one,
I
met
a
dog
named
molly
through
the
shelter
in
september
of
2019..
She
was
a
higher
risk,
shelter
resident
a
senior
yellow
lab
that
was
abandoned
in
a
park.
She
was
placed
in
a
foster
that
didn't
work
out
then
back
to
the
shelter
until
I
finally
decided
to
foster
her
through
the
forever
foster
program.
AM
Otherwise
been
euthanized
or
given
up
on
the
opportunity
to
live
out
their
days.
Some
final
in
a
more
comfortable
and
loving
setting.
I
wouldn't
have
been
able
to
welcome
this
sweet
girl
home
without
that
financial
assistance,
two
surgeries,
countless
vet
appointments
and
30
pounds
later
molly
is
healthy
and
thriving
in
her
golden
years
as
a
resident
of
evanston.
I've
seen
the
way
our
community
cares
for
its
businesses,
residences
and
residents
and
each
other,
and
we
shouldn't
forget
our
furry
friends
and
the
organization's
amazing
ones
like
the
shelter
who
support
them.
Please
vote.
L
A
A
AN
Hi
mayor
biss
and
city
council
members,
I
wrote
this
down
and
submitted
it
in
full
text,
so
I'll
read
part
of
it
and
it
has
to
do
with-
and
I
agree
with
regard
to
reconsidering
the
tiff
in
light
of
alternatives,
I'm
suggesting
an
alternative,
as
it
turns
out
with
regard
to
building
or
establishing
a
centralized
public
health
services
for
episode,
residents
and
and
community
members
families
beyond
the
old
everything.
So
how
can
we
heal,
restore
revitalize
and
build
resiliency
in
our
diverse
community?
AN
We
just
need
our
funds
finally
equal
to
the
task.
We
need
to
listen
long
and
hard
to
everyone
like
you're
doing
today
about
losing
precious
moments,
dignity
and
opportunities
trying
to
survive.
Let's
build
community
stabilization
restoration
and
development
programs
parallel
and
synergistic
to
economic
development.
Why
not
support
alternatives
to
college,
expanding
mentoring
and
training
in
the
trades
on
family
businesses
to
preserve
small
family
homes,
rather
than
cost
displacing
people.
AN
A
AO
Trisha
conley,
fourth
ward.
I
am
here
to
strongly
encourage
you
to
vote
no
on
the
five-fifths
tiff
why
we
have
four
other
active
tiffs
in
evanston.
This
means
that
in
four
different
tif
districts
we
are
still
busy
scraping
increments.
That
should
have
been
going
to
the
public
good,
our
public
schools,
libraries
and
parks.
This
tip
will
do
exactly
the
same
thing.
This
is
not
magic
money
that
is
created.
AO
There
has
not
been
a
clear
explanation
to
the
public
that
an
increase
in
development
in
a
tiff
area
also
means
that
any
increment
received
will
not
go
to
the
public
good,
but
instead
goes
to
a
tiff
slush
fund.
Why
are
the
residents
of
the
fifth
ward?
Not
only
at
the
table
not
just
being
heard,
but
an
essential
part
of
co-collaborating
on
a
plan
and
given
options
if
they're
interested
in
a
tiff
or
something
else,
there
are
options
and
they
should
be
on
the
table.
AO
Especially
those
who
are
hanging
on
to
stay
in
evanston
instead
of
creating
a
moral
budget,
that's
about
using
money
equitably
with
the
folks
at
the
top
who
need
it
the
most
instead
we're
going
to
play
it
if
we
have
to
do
a
tif
rather
than
have
the
city
provide
public
services
that
should
already
be
given
from
paying
their
fair
share
of
taxes,
and
this
is
a
real
shame.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
Excuse
me,
the
next
speaker
is
robin
roo
simmons,
followed
by
dolores
mitchell
and
then
betty
esther.
AP
Good
evening,
evanston
city
council,
this
tip
I'm
here
in
support
of
fightfist
tiff.
I
also
want
to
add
my
support
for
funding
for
the
animal
shelter,
but,
more
specifically
tonight,
this
tif
has
been
a
multi-year
goal,
a
multi-term
goal
actually
to
revitalize
a
west
end
of
the
fifth
ward.
Other
neighborhoods
have
enjoyed
this
tool
historically
for
community
and
programming
on
improvements,
and
after
years
of
work
towards
this
goal,
we
finally
have
a
chance
for
substantial
neighborhood
investment.
AP
This
tiff
will
give
up
give
us
access
to
resources
to
work
towards
fifth
war,
families
and
businesses
enjoying
the
same
community
benefits
and
livability
as
other
neighborhoods.
This
tif
will
allow
the
residents
an
opportunity
to
prioritize
and
direct
development
and
services
and,
most
importantly,
preserve
and
develop
quality,
affordable
housing
to
families,
risking
displacement.
AP
It's
a
contradiction
to
support
equity
and
not
see
the
opportunity
to
use
this
tool
for
good.
It's
up
to
us
to
use
it
for
good
we've
had
opportunities
for
community
meetings
over
the
last
three
elected
terms,
I'm
sure
we've
had
them
in
the
last
term.
Thank
you,
council
member
burns
for.
AQ
AR
AP
Meetings
recently
and
the
last
three
ward
aldermans
have
overwhelmingly
supported
this
and
they
have
overwhelmingly
been
supported
by
the
fifth
ward
to
serve
and
represent.
We
support
it
because
we
are
hearing
from.
AP
A
AC
Good
evening,
as
a
resident
of
the
ninth
ward,
I
am
very
much
in
favor
of
providing
tip
funds
to
the
fifth
ward
for
the
residents
to
enable
them
to
remain
in
their
homes.
There
are
so
many
who
have
left
the
city
from
the
fifth
ward.
My
grandparents
met
moved
here
around
1907
and
built
a
home
in
the
fifth
ward,
and
even
though
they
had
five
children
and
many
great
grandchildren,
I'm
the
only
member
of
my
family
who
is
still
living
in
evanston.
AC
AQ
Good
evening
you
and
also
want
to
wish
mrs
straughter
well
in
her
departure.
AQ
We
think
we
want
to
thank
me.
We,
the
citizen
network
of
protection.
I
want
to
thank
alderman
nick
newsom
for
taking
a
stand.
That's
on
that
cmp's
concern
will
be
taken
into
account
when
the
process
of
selecting
the
city
manager
and
the
police
chiefs
start.
AQ
A
AQ
B
AQ
AS
AS
Many
people
have
been
carrying
on
conversations
at
many
levels
at
the
city,
leadership
speaking
out
against
the
lack
of
long-term
accountability
present
in
the
structure
of
the
tiff,
especially
as
it
pertains
to
ensuring
that
the
tif
does
not
exacerbate
gentrification
in
the
very
same
community
we
espouse
to
want
to
help.
This
is
not
about
yes,
tiff
or
notif.
It
is
about
ensuring
that
we
create
mechanisms
within
the
tif
that
will
help
reduce
gentrification
in
the
neighborhood.
AS
In
particular,
district
65
board
has
been
in
conversation
with
the
city,
with
the
primary
goal
of
ensuring
an
intergovernmental
intergovernmental
agreement
is
written
into
the
tiff.
That
would
include
measures
to
address
the
potential
negative
side
effects
of
that
that,
historically,
a
company
tips
which
are
displacement
of
community
some
of
our
most
vulnerable
community
members
reduction
in
affordable
housing
and
increase
in
tax
burden
to
our
long-term
residents.
The
city.
AS
To
have
an
intergovernmental
agreement
when-
and
that
has
since
recanted
on
that
promise,
since
simply
trusting
systems
that
were
built
to
uphold
white
supremacy
without
enforceable
mechanisms
for
justice
have
never
gotten
a
black
and
brown
community
anything
but
heartache
and
loss
in
the
history
of
this
country.
We
simply
cannot
expect
that
today
we
are
going
to
assume
that
just
a
promise
without
anything
enforceable,
is
going
to
get
us
in
a
positive
place.
Tips
have
a
23-year
life
cycle,
and
we
doubt
any
of
you
on
the
city.
AS
Council
will
be
here
in
those
seats
in
23
years.
Voting
on
this
issue
without
first
mandating
an
iga
with
protective
provisions
to
safeguard,
affordable
housing
will
ensure
that
the
future
leaders
have
a
card
launch
to
ignore
the
promises
you
give
lip
service
to
today.
To
fail
to
have
enforceable
language
in
the
tiff
would
safe.
That
would
safeguard.
Members
of
the
black
community
is
showing
once
again
that
evanston
is
only
committed
to
performative
anti-racism,
but
fails
to
show
any
material
policy
and
policies
and
practices
where
it
really
matters.
W
Hi,
my
name
is
abby
hansen,
I'm
a
six
word
resident
and
I've
been
a
volunteer
at
the
shelter
for
the
past
six
years.
What
I
want
to
convey
tonight
is
just
how
special
the
evans
and
animal
shelter
is,
but
also
how
much
it
needs
this
renovation
to
continue
to
function.
Evanston
prides
itself
on
having
a
reputation
for
a
commitment
to
progressive
thinking
and
our
shelter
lives.
W
This
vision,
in
addition
to
taking
care
of
animals
themselves,
the
shelter
provides
a
broad
range
of
services
to
pets
to
their
owner,
from
its
pet
food
pantry
to
its
annual
vaccine
clinic
and
more
my
very
first
shift.
I
came
home
and
told
my
parents,
I
met
a
dog
named
harry.
He
has
almost
no
hair
because
of
cancer
and
I'm
in
love.
Needless
to
say,
harry,
the
hairless
dog
did
not
come
home
with
me,
but
he
was
my
first
glimpse
at
the
evanston
animal
shelter's
commitment
to
ensuring
pets
get
the
second
chances
they
deserve.
W
Unfortunately,
despite
the
shelter's
creative
uses
of
every
scrange
of
the
facility,
we
have
simply
reached
a
point
where
the
current
building
cannot
hold
up
to
demands.
The
shelter
is
such
a
valuable
asset
to
the
ebbinson
community,
as
we've
heard
tonight,
and
we
need
to
give
it
the
facility
and
the
resources
it
needs
to
continue
to
provide
the
services
in
a
way
that
is
safe
and
humane
to
the
animals
involved.
Thank
you.
AT
AT
Yeah,
okay,
great
all
right,
the
five
fifth
tip
that
is
not
supported
is
not
supported
by
district
65..
There's
about
4
500
registered
voters
in
the
fifth
ward
and
it
seemed-
and
it
seems
that
you
are
trying
to
tell
tell
everyone
that
all
of
those
registered
voters
are
in
support
of
their
taxes
being
increased
because
of
the
tip.
AT
These
funds
will
not
help
black
folks
as
because,
before
the
city
hasn't
helped
black
folks
in
the
fifth
ward
either.
We
all
know
that
the
tif
will
raise
property
taxes
and
because
the
schools
aren't
being
adequately
funded
due
to
tiffs
and
funds
are
being
diverted,
it
will
force
us
the
taxpayers
to
pay
yet
more
taxes
tips
are
not
needed.
This
test
will
not
make
black
folks
whole,
nor
will
solve
the
equity
issue
only.
We
can
do
that
as
a
community.
AT
I
say
vote
yes
on
the
animal
shelter
but
notice
spending
10
million
dollars
or
anything
near
that
we're
always
proclaiming
to
care
about
people
whom,
but
yet
we
have
hundreds
of
thousands
of
people
who
are
not
adequately
housed.
You
know
we
have
families.
AT
AU
AU
AU
You
know
there
are
places
downtown,
evanston
and
places
that
you
wouldn't
think
would
be
than
the
tiff
were
in
the
this
coming
up.
It
gave
me
some
hope,
the
place
where
I
I
hope,
my
business
there's
a
12
unit
apartment
building
upstairs
my
landlord
he's,
not
I'm
not
going
to
say
he's
the
greatest
landlord
he's
doing
the
best
he
can,
but
he
has
a
12
unit
building
upstairs
he
he
rents,
affordable
housing.
AU
Things
like
that
that
the
tif
will
help,
and
it
will
help
us
to
revitalize
area
to
be
a
very
popular
area
back
in
the
resources
have
gone
out
of
this
area
since
gentrification,
I'm
not
not
gentrification,
since
we
bust
our
kids
out
so
now
it's
time
for
us
to
give
back
into
this
area,
it's
long
overdue.
A
Thank
you
so
next
I
want
to
go
back
to
the
one
person
who
signed
up
online,
who
didn't
speak
when
called
on
susan
annie
is
susan
in
the
zoom.
A
Looks
like
no.
In
that
case,
there
are
two
more
people
who
are
in
the
room
who
I
somehow
missed
the
first
time.
Let
me
begin
with
siri
caddison
shapiro.
AR
I'm
a
longtime
resident
of
the
fourth
ward.
I
read
an
article
in
the
daily
northwestern
that
I
had
to
take
issue
with,
but
I
haven't
written
to
them,
which
says
that
the
dog
park
that
we
already
have
that
dekal
fonda
referred
to,
that
she
worked
on
really
hard,
is
not
in
evanston
and
that's
not
the
case.
It's
on
the
east
side
of
the
canal,
it's
in
evanston,
and
it
was
gifted
to
evanston
and
skokie
by
the
metropolitan
water
reclamation
group.
So
anyway,
we
don't
need
another
dog
park.
AR
AR
A
AR
It's
right
by
the
lake,
my
dog,
I
would
never
go
there
because
my
dog
would
want
to
go
swimming
so
badly.
He
would
jump
over
the
rocks
to
get
at
the
water
if
he
could.
I
just
want
to
speak
in
favor
of
a
dog
beach
in
favor
of
trying
for
different
locations.
There
are
various
locations
we
can
examine
and.
A
AE
My
name
is
linda
crawford,
I'm
from
the
first
ward.
Several
weeks
ago,
I
attended
a
public
hearing
at
the
jourdain
center.
On
the
matter
of
the
proposed
tiff,
I
heard
the
people
of
the
ward
speak
with
one
voice
that
they
do
not
want
this
tiff.
AE
They
expressed
their
fears,
which
were
based
on
past
experiences
with
city
government
decisions,
promises
and
policies.
They
even
had
an
alternate
plan
to
the
tiff
for
community
improvement.
The
people
of
the
fifth
ward
were
articulate,
passionate
and
fighting
to
be
heard
when
the
government
thinks
it
knows
what's
best
for
its
citizens.
It
is
patronizing
and
demoralizes
its
citizens
when
a
government
works
in
partnership
with
its
citizens,
values
their
knowledge
and
experiences
and
makes
room
for
its
citizens
at
the
table.
That
is
democracy
at
its
best.
AE
The
people
of
the
fifth
ward
deserve
to
be
part
of
the
solution,
and
I
think
they've
got
a
lot
of
good
reasons
for
not
wanting
this
tiff.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
That
brings
our
public
comment
to
a
close.
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
sp1.
Would
someone
like
to
make
a
motion
on
sp1
to
enable
a
discussion.
A
Council
member
newsman
moves
item
sp1,
council
member
when
seconds
mr
stoneback,
you
have
a
presentation.
Is
that
correct?
That
is
correct.
Yes,.
AW
AW
This
chart
shows
our
water
fund
reserve
balance
proposed
balance.
The
red
line
indicates
our
the
minimum
balance
that
we'd
like
to
have
in
reserve,
which
includes
the
25
operating
expenses,
a
million
dollars
for
rate
stabilization
because
of
seasonal
fluctuations,
with
water
sales
and
in
a
million
dollar
capital
reserve
in
case
of
an
emergency
in
2022.
AW
As
we
start
the
budget,
we
think
we're
going
to
have
just
about
9
million
dollars
in
the
fund,
but
believe
it
or
not.
We're
also
recommending
a
water
rate
increase
and
we're
also
recommending
to
sell
6.4
million
dollars
in
bonds,
and
that's
part
of
the
reason
I
wanted
to
come
out
here
and
talk
to
you
about
this.
The
the
nine
and
a
half
percent
water
rate
increases
is
offset
by
a
sewer
decrease,
but
overall
between
water
and
sewer,
there
will
be
a
somewhere
just
under
a
two
percent
total
rate
increase.
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The
proposed
rate
increase
in
2025
is
fully
offset
by
a
sewer
rate
decrease
and
then
the
proposed
3.6
percent
rate
increase
in
2026
between
water
and
sewage
comes
down
to
about
two
percent
again.
So
this
is
what
our
plan
shows.
The
next
slide
indicates
what
happens
if
we
don't
sell
any
of
that
6.4
million
dollars
in
bonds
in
2022.,
even
with
all
of
our
other,
the
proposed
rate
increases
and
everything
like
that.
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We
would
greatly
fall
below
our
proposed
reservoir
amount,
and
so
I
want
to
show
you
this
so
that
you'll
understand
we
have
long-range
planning
in
both
the
water
and
the
sewer
funds,
and
we
do
look
ahead
and
anticipate
different
situations.
So
we
again
would
recommend
at
the
budget
time
that
the
bonds
be
sold
and
that
you
approve
the
water
rate
increase.
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The
rate
adjustments
in
there
are
actually
rate
decreases
and
those
rate
decreases
are
available
because
the
debt
service
from
the
1991
through
2008
long-range,
sewer,
improvement
program,
143
million
dollar
project
retires
and
then
so
as
that
debt
service
decreases,
we're
able
to
decrease
our
sewer
rate
increase
as
well.
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This
graph
represents
our
combined
water
and
sewer
rate,
so
we've
been
at
six
dollars
and
13
since
2015.,
we
are
proposing
to
raise
it
to
6.25,
and
that
is
a
a
cost
per
100
cubic
feet.
That's
how
our
water
meters
read
in
evanston
in
comparison
that
the
625
is
equal
to
eight
dollars
and
36
cents
per
thousand
gallons,
which
is
the
more
common
nomenclature
that
you
hear
water
and
sewer
rates
at
and
again,
this
is
our
combined
rate,
not
just
the
water
rate
and
it's
our
first
rate
increase
since
2016..
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This
slide
compares
our
combined
water
and
sewer
rate
in
thousand
gallons
to
other
municipalities
around
us.
The
the
orange
line
in
the
middle
of
that
stack
indicates
what
our
current
rate
is.
The
one
above
it
indicates
where
our
rate
increase,
where
we
be
with
our
rate
increase,
and
the
bottom
line
is
something
else
that
staff
will
propose,
and
that
is
that
we
develop
an
affordable
water
rate
and
we're
still
working
that
out,
hopefully
with
to
use
people
that
apply
to
lee
heap
the
low-income
housing
energy
assistance
program.
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If
you
applied
for
that
and
can
demonstrate
that
you
applied
for
it,
we
would
provide
those
residents
with
the
affordable
rate
we're
still
working
out.
We
would
prefer
to
get
the
list
of
the
customers
that
qualified
and
then
just
automatically
make
this
happen
for
them.
We're
not
successful
in
getting
that
list
right
now,
so
it
might
be
that
we
will
have
to
pay
for
them
to
send
a
letter
out
to
say
that
you
qualify
for
this.
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If
you
show
this
letter
to
the
city
of
evanston,
but
we're
still
working
on
that
and
trying
to
to
make
it
work
out.
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The
way
that
we
came
up
with
our
proposed
affordable
rate
was
that
we
took
the
the
census
tract
8092,
which
is
in
the
fifth
ward
and
one
of
our
lower
income
census
tracts
and
we
determined
for
the
community
members
that
live
in
that
area.
What
would
be
an
affordable
rate?
This
whole
study
was
completed
by
the
illinois.
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Indiana
sea
grant
elevate
cmap
into
metropolitan
planning,
and
then
they
use
six
different
five
different
metrics
there's,
no
one
standard
of
how
you
determine
what
an
affordable
rate
is,
but
using
these
different
metrics,
they
came
up
with
the
items
that
are
listed
in
the
third
or
fourth
column
there,
and
it's
393
is
the
top
one.
393
is
the
bottom
one.
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If
you
have
average
all
of
them
up
comes
to
3.90,
so
we
staff
will
be
proposing
that
we
establish
an
affordable
rate
of
three
dollars
and
ninety
three
cents,
a
thousand
gallons,
both
water
and
sewer,
combined
rate,
which
then
would
save
the
residents
that
qualify
for
this
188
dollars
a
year
if
they
use
the
average
of
86
000
gallons
a
year.
There's
approximately
12
000
community
members
that
apply
for
the
lee
heap
program.
So
as
a
result
that
could
impact
water
revenue
by
approximately
226
thousand
dollars.
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I
just
wanted
to
go
over
some
of
the
immediate
capital
projects
that
are
coming
up
both
out
of
the
waterfront
and
sewer
fund.
The
biggest
one
is
our
the
replacement
of
36
42
inch
intake
pipe.
This
is
an
intake
pipe
that
was
installed
in
1908,
it's
at
the
end
of
its
useful
life,
it's
starting
to
fill
with
sand
and
we
aren't
bringing
very
much
water
in
through
that
intake
pipe.
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This
is
showing
that
we're
proposing
to
spend
7.7
million
dollars
in
2022,
but
the
overall
project
cost
is
41
million
dollars
and
it
will
be
paid
out
over
a
three
year
period.
The
other
large
project,
there's
lots
of
projects,
but
the
other
large
one
is
the
filter,
filtration
head
house
improvements.
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This
is
the
building
that
was
constructed
in
1913
and
it
is
the
bricks
are
starting
to
bow
out
there's
some
structural
concerns,
and
so
we
want
to
improve
the
the
masonry
work
and
the
roofing
over
that
section
of
the
building
as
well
a
little
bit
more
on
the
intake
pipe.
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The
new
pipeline
would
include
a
heating
and
chemical
system
that
we
have
on
our
current
intake
pipes
as
well,
but
two
new
features
is
that
we
would
include
a
temperature
monitor
and
actually
a
flow
meter
as
well,
so
the
industry's
changing
and
there's
methods
of
doing
that
now
and
that
would
just
help
us
be
more
efficient
at
the
water
plant
having
that
project.
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We're
proposing
to
fund
approximately
half
51
percent
of
the
project
from
the
state
revolving
fund,
which
is
the
the
low
interest,
low
rate
funds
that
we've
been
getting
for
years
for
the
sewer
project
and
water
projects.
The
interest
rate
on
that
is
established
at
1.1
percent.
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Then
we
would
get
the
other
20
million
dollars
through
the
water
infrastructure,
finance
and
innovation
act,
which
is,
is
unique
in
that
it
allows
a
30-year
debt
service
instead
of
20
years
and
the
debt
payments
don't
start
until
two
and
a
half
years
after
the
project
is
completed,
which
is
an
important
feature
for
us
related
to
our
wholesale
water
customers,
because
once
we
a
project
is
completed,
it's
added
to
the
rate
base,
but
it's
two
years
later
until
the
wholesale
water
customer
actually
starts
paying
on
it.
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So
this
really
helps
us
not
front
the
cost
so
much
and
get
it
through
the
delivery
instead.
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So
the
wifi
is
estimated
at
two
and
a
half
percent
interest
right
now
that
would
be
finalized
when
we
execute
the
agreement-
and
we
hope
to
be
coming
back
at
the
october
11th
council
meeting
with
two
ordinances
to
approve
the
debt
service
funding
both
for
this
state
revolving
fund
and
then
also
for
with
you
and
then
the
actual
wifi
agreement.
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So-
and
this
would
be
the
first
time
that
the
city's
getting
that
with
the
money-
there
are
only
a
few
projects
in
the
united
states
that
actually
qualify
for
this
and
they
really
like
what
we
were
doing
because
of
our
wholesale
water
customers,
the
amount
of
people
that
get
the
benefit
of
this
type
of
project,
and
I
know
that
the
41
million
dollars
sounds
like
a
lot
of
money,
and
this
is
going
to
impact
the
evanston
retail
customers.
But
it
is
not
the
because
this
is
a
project.
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Our
debt
service
on
that
21
million
dollar
project
again
because
of
the
very
low
interest
loan
that
we
attained
on
that
it's
only
1.1
million
dollars
a
year,
so
the
city
is
the
water
fund-
is
recognizing
six
million
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
more
a
year
by
implementing
this
21
million
dollar
project,
we'll
have
the
same
type
of
results.
When
we
implement
the
41
million
dollar
project,
where
our
wholesale
water
customers
will
pick
up
the
entire
cost
of
our
debt
service.
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Unfortunately,
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
in
our
distribution
system
and
we
can't
really
charge
those
costs
to
our
wholesale
water
customers
because
they
don't
use
our
distribution
system.
So
this
these
are
the
types
of
projects
that
are
born
by
our
retail
customers
and
they
have
to
pay
for
them.
So
we're
hoping
to
replace
approximately
5500
meters.
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We're
going
to
start
the
lead
service
line
replacement,
so
there's
service
lines
that
are
on
the
water
mains
that
we're
replacing
so
they'll
get
done
as
part.
There's
182
lead
service
lines
that
will
be
replaced
as
part
of
our
water
main
replacement
program.
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We
also
have
a
million
dollar
coming
from
the
state
through
to
rebuild
illinois
that
will
get
us
about
approximately
125
partial
lead
services
replaced,
and
then
we
have
applied
for
a
four
million
dollar
principal
forgiveness
loan
for
the
state
that
we
won't
know
whether
we'll
receive
or
not
until
july,
when
they
come
out
and
indicate
what
the
funding
is
for.
So
those
are,
we
don't
have
to
start
replacing
light
service
lines
until
2027..
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You
have
to
do
it
if
you
replace
the
water
main.
So
we
have
to
do
that
part,
but
we're
trying
to
get
experience
and
get
our
program
set
up
and
maybe
learn
from
a
couple
of
our
hiccups
this
year
or
next
year.
I
should
say
so
that
we
can
really
make
the
program
smooth,
because
that
will
be
a
30-year
program
that
that
will
be
going
on
and
then
the
corrosion
control
study
we
talked
about
at
the
last
meeting
when
we
awarded
those
projects.
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We
caught
them
early
and
I
don't
know
if
you've
ever
watched
the
youtube
videos
or
what
it
looks
like
when
a
30
inch
water
main
completely
breaks.
It's
like
a
river
going
down
the
street,
and
so
we
don't
want
that
to
happen
in
evanston
and
that's
why
we're
looking
to
replace
this
water
main
before
we
have
that
type
of
a
disaster.
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What's
in
yellow,
which
is
along
emerson
street
between
benson
and
sherman,
we
have
to
replace
by
open
cut
construction
because
the
water,
the
current
water
main,
is
too
close
to
the
sewer
main,
and
we
have
to
have
the
proper
separation
and
then
what
we're
showing
in
green
is
we're
letting
the
bidders
decide.
What
is
the
most
economical
way
to
do
it?
It
can
either
be
done
by
open
cut
construction
or
by
lining
the
the
water
main.
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They
will
be
working
with
us
to
get
the
plans
and
develop
a
way
to
get
the
services
that
are
on
these
water
mains
replaced
next
year,
as
we
do.
The
water
main
project
staff
feels
that
it's
very
critical
that
we
continue
to
replace
water
main
because
of
the
55
percent
of
our
water
mains
are
over
80
years
old,
and
if
we
don't
continue
to
replace
these
we're
going
to
wind
up
in
a
problem
where
we're
having
way
too
many
water
main
breaks
every
year
that
we
won't
be
able
to
handle
it.
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So
we
staff
feels
that
replacing
one
percent
a
year
we're
getting
to
the
to
the
water
mains
that
are
really
nearing
the
end
of
their
useful
life
and
get
them
replaced
before
they
cause
big
problems
for
us.
So
we
want
to
keep
moving
on
that,
and
this
just
shows
where
the
water
main
locations
are
in
2022..
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We
are
successful
and
get
a
low
interest
loan
to
rehabilitate
the
large
diameters
through
on
greenleaf
street,
and
I
have
a
slide
on
that
coming
up
as
well,
and
then
we're
also
put
money
in
for
stormwater
master
plan
improvements,
so
the
city
has
currently
hired
hayen
associates
to
complete
a
stormwater
master
plan,
which
includes
a
hydraulic
and
hydrologic
study
of
our
comp,
the
entire
sewer
system,
three
different
sewer
systems,
they're
developing
a
full
model
of
our
sewer
system.
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To
give
a
different
level
of
protection
or
resiliency
through
the
city,
so
this
will
be
a
major
decision
for
the
city
council
to
decide.
Are
we
going
to
try
to
protect
for
a
five-year
rain
event,
a
10-year
rain
event,
a
25-year
reign
event
and
for
those
different
scenarios
we'll
have
an
estimated
cost
of
how
much
that
will
be
and
and
then
that
will
spark
the
question
of
how
do
we
afford
to
do
that?
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This
is
the
green
leaf
sewer
that
will
be
rehabilitated
next
year.
It's
going
on
greenlee
street
from
dewey
avenue
all
the
way
out
to
the
canal.
It's
3
615
feet
of
brick
or
segmented
clay
tiles,
who
remains
ranging
in
size
from
39
inch
to
60
inch
diameter,
and
this
is
the
tributary
pipeline
that
all
the
sewers
between
dempster
and
main
street
from
the
canal
to
florence
flow
through.
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So
I
can
sleep
a
little
bit
better
now
and
then
that's
my
presentation
and
I'm
available.
If
anybody
has
any
questions.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
First
question
is
from
councilmember
fleming
sorry.
AX
That's
okay,
thank
you.
So
one
is
thank
you
for
figuring
out
the
affordable
rate.
I
appreciate
that
we,
after
years
of
talking
about
it,
I
appreciate
that
we
finally
are
moving
in
a
direction
to
figure
out
how
to
offer
people
who
can't
afford
even
these
slight
increases
to
keep
up
with
their
water
bill.
So
thanks
for
doing
that,
I
do
have
a
question
and
I
don't
know
if
we
can
talk
about
this.
AX
Maybe
you
can
tell
me
if
it's
a
legal
thing
we
can't
talk
about,
but
it
might
be
worth
just
looking
at
this
form.
It
looks
like
skokie
is
paying
just
you
know,
maybe
just
pennies
less
than
us,
but
can
we
elaborate
on?
I
know
we
had
the
huge
multi-year
skokie
lawsuit
for
people
who
maybe
aren't
up
to
date
on
what
that
and
what
happened
there?
Can
you
can
we
go
into
that
city
manager
story?
This
is
an
update
for
the
community.
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Correct-
and
I
don't
have
the
specific
dollar
amounts
in
front
of
me,
but
skokie,
who
in
a
way
gets
better
service
from
evanston
than
some
of
our
other
wholesale
water
customers,
because
they
receive
water
at
three
delivery
points
and
they
do
not
re-pump
the
water.
So
the
pressure
that
we
develop
at
the
evans
and
water
plant
creates
the
pressure
that
goes
through
the
skokie
distribution
system.
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So
that's
something
different
than
what
our
other
wholesale
water
customers
have
and
they,
when
their
contract
expired,
decided
that
they
would
only
pay
evanson
the
same
rate
that
one
of
our
other
wholesale
water
customer
was
paying
that
lawsuit
finally
got
re
resolved
and
they
are
paying
it's
not
the
same
dollar
amount,
but
they
are
paying
on
the
same
rate
base
and
return
on
rate
that
all
of
our
other
wholesale
water
customers
are
paying
so
they're
paying
nine
and
a
half
percent
return
on
rate.
Just
like
everybody
else
is
there.
AW
They
have
a
50,
50
split
of
the
original
cost
and
reproduction
cost.
So,
but
they
take
a
little
bit
more
water
than
morton
grove
miles.
They
take
a
lot
more
water
than
lincoln
would,
but
they
take
a
lot
less
water
than
northwest
water
commission,
so
the
rate
is
appropriate
for
the
quantity
of
water
that
we're
providing
them.
AW
So
that
case
has
been
settled.
They
actually
paid
the
city
over
four
million
dollars,
which
is
why
the
water
fund
reserve
is
so
high
right
now
we
didn't
expect
it
staff
didn't
plan
on
getting
it
all
in
one
lump
summit
they
kind
of
were
they
were
underpaying
us
for
four
years,
so
I
guess
technically
they
could
have
repaid
us
that
four
million
dollars
shortage
over
four
years
as
well.
They
paid
us
all
in
one
lump
sum
so
which
we
are
grateful
for
and
we're
working
out.
Fine
with
them.
Now.
AX
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that
update
and
then
my
last
thing
was
you.
You
mentioned
this
might
be
the
way
you're
going
in
terms
of
the
affordable
rate,
but
you
know
working
with
lawrence
down
in
parks
and
rec.
They
did
the
same
thing
with
the
district.
They
couldn't
kind
of
get
a
data
sharing
agreement
or
whatever.
AX
So
I
think
that
he
would
tell
you
that
they
did
find
sending
that
letter
over
to
district
65
and
having
parents
just
being
able
to
come
in
and
show
the
letter
in
order
to
get
discounts
at
our
parks
and
rec
programs
has
been
very
helpful.
So
you
know,
if
that's
any
consolation,
I
think
that
sending
a
letter
over
to
ceda
or
whoever
implements
the
light
program
might
be
a
great
way
to
go,
and
then
people
also
don't
have
to
be
coming
here
with
a
whole
bunch
of
paperwork
to
prove
eligibility.
AW
And
then
the
state
currently
is
developing
leewop,
low-income
housing
water
assistance
program.
So
we
would
part
of
the
reason
I'm
asking
for
the
list
is
that
we
have
a
a
lot
of
customers
on
our
shut
off
list
and
if
I
knew
that
they
were
on
leave,
I
would
not
shut
them
off
because,
as
lee
wap
comes
out,
they'll
find
out
who's
pat
if
they
qualified
for
it
to
find
out
if
they
have
a
pass
through
water
bill
and
they'll
pay
the
utility
directly.
AW
So
I
want
to
not
shut
people's
water
off
because
they
can't
afford
to
pay.
I
just
want
to
start
the
new
affordable
rate.
Hopefully
they
can
pay
that
not
charging
the
the
current
water
rate.
You
know
their
past
due
amount
and
then
have
that
paid
off
by
leewa,
but
unless
I
have
the
list,
I'm
not
sure
who,
on
our
shut
off
list,
also
qualifies
for
that,
and
so
that's
the
little
touchy
point
that
I
have.
AW
L
AW
We
have
meetings
set
up
with
ceta
coming
up
to
see
if
we
can't
do
something
better.
AW
AW
That
is
my
perception:
if
you
read
the
chicago
affordable
rate
and
what
they're
doing
it,
they
say:
they're
doing
it
in
conjunction
with
leahey.
So
I'm
assuming
that
they're
getting
that
information
I
and
I'm
trying
to
understand
why
they
won't
give
it
to
evanston
all.
AX
I
AW
I
You
don't
have
to
get
into
it
now
before
a
budget
memo.
I'd
love
to
see,
because
in
my
mind
I
remember
that
the
difference
that
we
weren't
receiving
created
a
strain
on
our
budget
and
now
that
we
have
4.5
million
it
was
just
written
in.
It
would
be
great
whether
it's
ap
w
or
during
budget
season,
that
we
understand
the
impact
of
that
and
how
that
helps
or
hurts
us.
So
if
it's
neutral,
then
I
would
love
to
understand
why
it's
neutral,
but
the
affordable
rate.
No,
no.
AW
AW
AW
AW
F
Well,
he
addressed
part
of
one
of
my
questions
there,
which
was
about
renters
as
a
renter
myself.
I
know
you
may
not
have
it
figured
out
now,
but
what?
What
are?
What
is
your
thinking
around
creating
an
affordable
rate
for
or
allowing
this
affordable
rate
to
impact
renters
as
well.
AW
I
would
have
to
come
back
to
the
city
council,
but
it
might
be
something
that
we
actually
send
a
check
to
the
the
people
that
qualify
that
are
renters.
It's
the
only
thinking.
In
the
back
of
my
mind,
that's
the
only
plan
that
I
have
at
this
point
in
time,
but
I'm
more
than
willing
to
hear
any
suggestions.
People
might
have.
I
I
don't
like
sending
checks
out,
but
I
don't
know
how.
F
That
sounds
like
a
great
idea,
so
thank
you
for
looking
at
solutions
to
that
problem
and
then
with
water
shut
off.
So
I
made
a
reference
a
while
ago
to
end
water
shutoffs
again
I'll
reiterate.
I
highly
appreciate
the
affordable
rate
that
you're
coming
up
with,
but
I
also
believe
that
we
have
to
figure
out
how
not
to
shut
off
water
for
folks,
you.
D
F
F
And
so
I
I
just
love
to
I
made
that
referral
a
while
ago,
I'd
love
to
see
that
move
forward,
I'd
love
to
see
if
we
can
figure
out
a
way
not
to
shut
off
water
there.
You
know
we
subsidize
parking
and
you
know
there.
We
don't
have
a
huge
gripe
about
that
and
and
water
is
more
of
a
necessity
to
me
than
providing
free
parking
spaces
for
people.
So
I
think
if
we
can
figure
it
out
for
parking,
we
can
figure
it
out
for
water
and
just.
I
As
a
point
of
information,
it's
not
a
separate
question.
I
I
think
it'd
be
helpful
to
understand.
Like
ask
the
question
of
how
many
times
do
we
shut
off
water?
I
Because
if
you
look
at
the
the
list
there
I
mean
businesses
carry
typically
carry
like
the
largest
set,
and
I
can't
remember
when,
in
the
city
of
evanston
we
ever
cut
off
a
business.
Perfect
example
is
canal
shores
and
then
maybe
not
now
for
this
meeting,
but
we'll
ask
at
human
services
that
their
resources-
council
member,
read
through
our
evanston
general
assistants-
that
if
they're
members
of
our
community
that
are
truly
struggling,
whether
it's
in
a
rental
or
home
ownership
that
they
can
get
assistance
prior
to
their
water
shutting
off.
I
So
I
I
understand
your
goal,
but
I'm
also
saying
that
I
don't
know
what
our
percentage
is
and
there's
help
is
the
most
important
thing
for
residents
to
understand
that
if
they
run
into
that
said,
excuse
me
that
they
find
themselves
in
that
situation.
They
should
contact
our
general
assistants.
Thank.
A
You
so
much,
let
me
just
jump
in
here.
Just
it's!
It's
8,
25
we've
got
a
lot
of
work
to
do
before
we
take
a
single
vote
and
then
we
have
a
lot
of
votes
to
take.
So
I
just
ask
everybody
on
council
to
speak
when
called
on
and
respect
the
order,
so
we
can
move
through
this
as
as
expeditiously
as
possible,
we'll
go
to
council
members.
F
Just
finish:
well,
two:
two
alderman
birth
weights
point
I
believe
the
last
we
didn't
shut
off
water
in
2020,
obviously
because
the
pandemic,
but
we
did
shut
off
water
in
2019.
Is
that
correct?
Earlier
in
the
year?
Yes-
and
let's
just
say
since
2017,
have
we
shut
off
water
to
a
residence
in
to
a
residential
address
in
the
city
of
evanston.
F
AV
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
director.
Still
back
a
year
or
two
ago
or
three
now
we
looked
into
a
tiered
rate
structure
for
water
that
it's
I
understand.
It
is
not
part
of
the
discussion
or
not
part
of
the
proposal
that
you're
presented
tonight.
So
is
that
not
possible
or
what
is
that
something
that
we
might
consider
at
some
future
point.
AW
One
of
the
things
that
we
hope
to
do
in
next
year
is
to
do
a
cost
of
service
study.
I
I'm
concerned
with
the
226
000
less
in
revenue
that
will
bring
in
potentially
with
the
affordable
rate.
I
think
the
waterfront
is
in
the
position
now
to
sustain
that
for
a
year,
but
ultimately
I
think
that
we
would
need
to
raise
order
rates
and
I
would
prefer
to
do
a
tier
structure,
but
there's
multiple
challenges
with
that
with
the
condo
buildings.
AW
Only
having
one
meter
that
you
know
that
each
unit
may
not
exceed
that
because
they're
a
condo
they
can
collectively
exceed
that.
So
we
have
a
new
water
billing
system
that
would
allow
us
to
identify
that
better,
and
so
we
want
to
hire
consultant.
We
haven't
done
a
great
model
in
a
very
long
time,
because
we're
just
successful
in
reducing
the
sewer
rate
and
increasing
the
water
rate
to
meet
our
needs
with
that
starting
to
run
out
this
time.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
I
think
no
one
else
is
seeking
to
speak.
So
thank
you
very
much,
mr
stonedap,
and
that
brings
us
to
item
sp2.
A
Would
someone
like
to
make
a
motion
to
enable
a
discussion
on
sb2?
I.
A
AY
Yes,
thank
you.
My
name
is
laura
biggs.
I
am
the
city
engineer
and
I
would
like
to
give
some
information
about
our
dog
park
planning
that
we've
been
doing
and
also
to
seek
direction
from
the
city
council
as
to
the
best
option
to
proceed.
AY
You
can
access
it
through
the
sam's
club
parking
lot
and
it
is
a
reasonably
sized
dog
parked
quite
large
two
and
a
half
acres
and
the
city
of
evanston.
Jointly
pays
for
the
maintenance
of
that
park
with
the
village
of
skokie
and
evanstonians
can
use
it.
But
what
we
have
found
is
that
we've
been
getting
complaints
that
it's
not
that
easy
for
a
lot
of
evanstonians
to
access
unless
they
drive
there.
AY
So
the
mayor,
the
previous
mayor,
had
designated
some
good
neighbor
funding
in
conjunction
with
the
city
northwestern
university
and
of
85
thousand
dollars
in
2020,
and
when
staff
did
a
more
realistic
cost
estimate
to
fence
off
an
acre.
We
felt
that
110
000
was
really
the
cost
estimate,
so
that
we
added
in
general
obligation
bonds
to
pay
for
the
difference.
And
then
our
goal
was
to
actually
get
through
this
year
and
this
fall
after
having
selected
a
site
through
a
public
engagement
process.
AY
To
do
that,
we
actually
did
a
pretty
lengthy
internal
study
and
we
worked
on
it
for
a
couple
years,
because
this
all
started
pre-pandemic
and
then
got
sidetracked.
But
we
reviewed
what
other
communities
and
what
industry
experts
consider
as
critical
criteria
for
a
dog
park
and
we
identified
those
criteria.
AY
And
then
we
evaluated
all
the
city
of
evanston
parks
that
we
already
own
against
those
criteria
to
see
which
parks
rated
most
high
and
we
eliminated
any
parks
that
were
within
one
mile
of
pooch
park.
Because
one
of
the
concerns
about
pooch
park
is
it's
just
not
centrally
located,
so
it
didn't
make
sense
for
us
to
build
something
nearby.
We
wanted
to
geographically
distribute
the
resource.
AY
So
we
have
tried
to
find
another
site
where
we
have
available
space
that
could
be
fenced
off
that
could
be
utilized
for
a
dog
beach
or
a
dog
park.
Excuse
me
to
do
this.
We
actually
have
held
three
public
engagement
type
things
starting
in
march.
We
had
a
public
meeting.
We
followed
that
up
with
a
public
online
survey,
and
then
we
went
to
a
second
public
meeting
to
gather
feedback.
AY
So
this
is
what
the
initial
rankings
looked
like
when
we
ranked
all
the
city
parks,
there
are
75
of
them.
Approximately
we
came
up
with
this
list,
went
down
down
down
down
down,
but
these
were
the
top
rated
parks
and
clark
square
and
dawes
park
both
scored
equally
well,
but
as
you
move
forward,
there's
a
little
map
here.
AY
That's
provided
off
on
the
right
side
of
the
screen
where
we
mapped
the
top
rated
parks,
and
you
can
see
that
quite
a
number
of
them
are
either
located
on
the
lakefront
or
along
canal,
the
canal
park
system,
the
highest
rated
ones,
were
all
along
the
lakefront.
There
are
also
these
were
results
from
the
online
survey.
AY
However,
we
eliminated
some
because
they
are
conflicting
with
other
uses
that
the
city
already
has
programmed
into
the
parks,
whether
those
are
picnic,
areas
or
festival.
Spaces
beck
park
was
the
least
preferred
of
the
locations
that
we
looked
at
in
of
the
top
10
locations
and
also
we're
in
the
process,
which
has
also
been
delayed
by
the
pandemic
of
doing
a
more
holistic
look
at
the
usage
of
best
back
park.
Since
we
have
an
expansion
of
the
park
there
that
occurred,
and
so
we
came
basically
down
to.
AY
When
we
had
the
second
public
meeting,
we
got
a
lot
of
feedback
and
we
talked
about
some
of
the
ideas,
but
the
biggest
thing
that
happened
is
we
got
a
lot
of
opposition
from
the
neighbors,
so
the
neighbors
knew
we
actually
flyered
the
areas
around
the
parks
to.
Let
them
know
that
we
were
going
to
be
talking
about
this
subject.
So
then
the
neighbors
would
know
about
it
and
they
all
pretty
much
came
out
in
opposition
to
any
of
the
three
target
parks
that
we
were
looking
at.
AY
AY
So
each
of
these
next
tier
of
locations
starts
failing
one
of
the
key
criteria,
but
they
could
still
become
dog
parks,
but
we
have
no
reason
to
believe
that
any
of
these
other
sites
would
be
any
more
successful
with
the
neighbors
compared
to
the
initial
sites,
because
they're
actually
more
challenged
in
a
lot
of
ways,
and
so
the
conclusions
from
our
internal
staff
study
and
the
public
engagement
is
that
there
is
extremely
strong
support
for
the
dog
park.
That
was
completely
clear.
AY
AY
But
the
neighbors
expressed
substantial
concerns,
which
included
concerns
about
noise,
odor
parking
being
taken
up
by
people
using
the
dog
park.
Would
there
be
pet
waste
either
just
left
around
or
left
in
their
garbage
cans
when
they
were
out
clark
square
is
in
a
historic,
lakefront
district,
as
are
most
lake
front
parks.
AY
However,
the
key
point,
because
we
had
a
lot
of
suggestions
about
dual
use
sites
where
they
were
partly
for
dogs
part
of
the
day
and
partly
for
humans,
the
rest
of
the
day.
We
really
don't
think
that's
legal.
That
is
just
not
something
that's
going
to
be
able
to
be
accommodated,
and
so
we're
sort
of
at
a
crossroads
where
the
staff
is
really
seeking
direction
about
how
to
proceed,
and
there
are
four
options
that
we
have
determined
based
on
the
public
feedback.
AY
AY
AY
This
was
generated
by
public
during
public
comment
at
both
of
the
meetings,
and
there
was
a
high
support
expressed
for
this,
from
both
dog
owners
and
non-dog
owners
to
find
a
site
in
the
middle
of
an
industrial
area
away
from
any
residential
spaces
and
to
develop
that
as
a
dog
park,
or
for
we
could
just
not
proceed.
I
mean
it
is
at
this
point
a
valid
option,
because
staff
really
doesn't
have
a
recommendation
for
how
you
would
proceed
without
city
council
support
to
override
one
of
the
other
potential
protest
groups.
G
Yes,
thank
you,
ms
biggs,
for
this.
This
is
a
not
an
easy
topic
at
all,
and
I
I'll
just
start
off
by
saying
that
I
grew
up
as
a
dog
owner
I
own
a
dog
now,
but
so
my
my
I
have
two
questions
for
you.
One
in
the
spirit
of
barbara
james
is
the
lincoln
street
beach
a
possibility.
AY
AY
I'm
not
sure
it's
one
northwestern
would
agree
to
because
they
also
use
lincoln
street
beach
periodically,
but
the
only
ready
access
to
it
right
now
is
through
northwestern's
property.
So
there
are
some
logistic
barriers
that
would
have
to
be
overcome
that
aren't
a
hundred
and
ten
thousand
dollars
worth
of
cost.
G
Well,
I
I
still
think
that
is
worth
pursuing,
because
it
it
is
a
beach,
a
dog
beach,
which
was
many
people
loved
the
dog
beach
when
it
did
exist
for
their
dogs.
So
I
I
I'd
like
us
to
pursue
that.
I
have
to
say
that
the
residents
of
the
third
ward
that
I
heard
from
were
overwhelmingly
opposed
to
clark
square
park,
and
it
wasn't
necessarily
because
they
didn't
want
to
live
near
a
dog
park,
because
I
heard
from
many
people
even
a
distance
away.
G
It's
because
that
park
is
one
of
the
few
open
spaces
along
the
lakefront.
That
is,
it's
really
truly
a
passive
park,
and
I
had
one
of
the
neighbors
send
me
a
list
of
all
the
ways
that
that
clark
square
park,
especially
during
since
the
pandemic
is
now
used
from.
G
There
is
an
early
morning,
tai
chi
class
that
meets
there
every
day
for
seniors.
There
is
a
yoga
class
that
meets
there.
There's
a
girls
lacrosse
that
that
uses
that
open
space,
because
it's
hard
to
find
large
open
space
in
the
third
ward.
There
are
people
who
come
and
and
enjoy
it
because
it
isn't
a
picnic
area.
So
you
can
actually
have
some
quiet.
G
G
The
third
ward
actually
has
the
least
amount
of
park,
the
green
space
of
any
ward
in
the
in
the
city,
and
so
I
don't
want
to
say
that
the
lakefront
park
is
is
a
neighborhood
park,
but
it
it
functions
a
lot
as
a
neighborhood
park,
and
I
I
I
understand
from
my
the
community,
my
residents,
why
they
are
opposed
to
it.
So
I
would
like
us
to
pursue
the
potential
dog
park
dog
beach
park
or.
G
Take
option
four,
because
I
really
think
we're
in
this
impossible
choice
here.
At
this
point,
and-
and
I
will
say
I
speak
as
a
dog
owner-
I
will
say
one
other
comment-
that
after
we
lost
the
dog
beach,
we
had
many
many
instances
where
we
had
people
letting
their
dogs
off
leash
along
the
lakefront.
We
had
constant
problems
with
that
that
has
disappeared.
G
A
Thank
you.
Next
is
council
member
fleming,
followed
by
kelly.
AX
Thank
you.
So
I
totally
disagree
with
my
colleague
and
think
that
clark
square
clark
park.
I
forgot
the
name,
it's
a
great,
viable
dog
park.
It
is
a
huge
space.
I
you
know
frequented
running
or
riding
my
bike
and
I
do
see
people
doing
things.
I
don't
know
exactly
how
big
you
had
envisioned
the
dog
park.
That
is
not
my
area
of
expertise,
but
it
seems
like
the
park
could
be
gated
off
as
you
described,
for
a
dog
park
and
still
have
you
know
some
green
space
for
people
to
do.
AX
Maybe
not
all
the
things
they're
doing
now.
It
is,
you
know,
a
beautiful
location,
so
I
could
understand
why
people
would
like
to
leave
it
open
and
have
other
uses
for
it.
However,
everyone
can't
afford
to
live
near
the
beach.
I
think
you
know
we
have
to
continue
to
think
about
using
lake
front
space
for
everybody
and
and
the
while.
You
know
it
is
used
for
people.
I
you
know
it's
been
five
years.
AX
I
would
not
support
putting
it
well
if
neighbors
wanted
it,
I
would
support
putting
it
over
along
the
canal
at
the
twigs
park,
whatever
that
that
space
is
called,
but
that
also
seems
very
close
to
houses
and
it
seems
to
be
we
put
a
lot
of
stuff
over
in
the
fifth
ward
that
we
won't
put
other
places.
So
you
know,
I
think,
that's
a
perfect
location
for
it.
AX
It
has
parking,
probably
not
enough
for
all
the
people
who
have
dogs
who
want
to
use
it,
but
it
does
at
least
have
some
parking
and
I
think
again
it
can
be
used
for
for
many
things,
particularly
if
the
dogs
are
you
know,
in
a
gated
space,
there
still
could
be
plenty
of
space
for
people
to
do
other
activities
and-
and
we
do
have
you
know-
lots
of
other
green
space
around
the
city
that
people
could
use
for
tai
chi,
and
you
know
all
the
all
the
other
things
that
people
are
using
park
space
for
so
I
understand
the
neighbors
might
not
love
it
for
a
lot
of
reasons,
but
there's
again
this
is
a
town
of
75
000
people
and
people.
AX
Don't
love
a
lot
of
things
and
we
have
to
make
hard
choices.
I
think
ms
fonda's
point
was
accurate
and
that
this
has
been
a
long-term
conversation
pooch
park
aside.
I
do
think
it
would
be
nice
people
to
have
a
dog
park
here
in
evanston
and
we've
made
that
commitment
that
we've
delayed
on
not
because
of
you
all's
work.
AX
And
lastly,
regarding
the
dog
beach,
I
mean,
I
think,
it'll
be
great.
I
had
a
dog
beach
token,
it
seemed
like
last.
I
remember
at
the
lincoln
street.
Beach
was
a
little
bit
of
a
disaster
in
terms
of
the
ownership
and
all
those
things.
So
it
would
be
great
if
we
can
make
that
happen,
but
I
would
hate
to
say
we're
going
to
have
a
dog
beach
and
we
can't
make
that
happen,
and
then
we
don't
have
a
dog
park
or
a
dog
beach.
I
mean,
I
think,
dog
owners.
AX
You
know,
have
waited
a
really
long
time
for
this
and,
as
you
said,
I
mean
it's
something
we
have
funding
for.
I
don't
know
when
we're
going
to
have
funding
again,
if
we
don't
use
it
now.
You
know
you
said
northwestern.
Might
not
put
it
up
again
and
then
we
just
kind
of
be
back
to
square
one,
with
kind
of
breaking
a
commitment
we
made
to
our
community.
AZ
So,
thank
you,
council,
member
wynn
for
bringing
up
the
lincoln
street
idea.
I
also
would
love
to
see
that
explored.
I
know
many
people
go.
I
mean
for
many
reasons.
People
prefer
the
beach
because
obviously
there's
the
water
there,
but
you
also
don't
have
homes
flanking
it.
So
you
don't
get.
As
you
know,
you
won't
get
the
same
push
back
on
a
lakefront
space.
I
know
many.
Many
people
go
to
wilmette
to
use
the
dog
beach
there
and
you
know
they
let
everybody
in
and
it's
right
next
to
their
swimming
beach.
AZ
So
that
is
that
I
just
want
to
point
that
out.
So
that
would
be
great
if
we
could
look
into
it.
I
think
that
would
be
and
it
could
be
accessed
right
at
the
end
of
lincoln
street
without
too
much
it
seems
like
wouldn't
have
to
be
too
complicated.
Creating
an
entrance
at
the
very
east
end
of
lincoln
street.
AV
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
my
ears,
perked
up
when
you
mentioned
great
park,
but
I
thought
about
that
for
two
more
seconds
and
realized.
It's
probably
not
the
best
idea.
That's
the
fourth
ward.
I
would
love
to
be
able
to
walk
to
a
dog
park
with
our
dog.
AV
Technically,
I
suppose
I
could
walk
to
pooch
park,
but
not
if
we're
stuck
in
council
meetings
all
night
long.
I
won't
have
that
kind
of
time.
So
I
do
think
clark.
Square
park
is
a
viable
option.
You
know
with
respect
respectfully.
AV
Sharing
that
opinion
I
do
think
that
spreads
out
the
dog
park
access
a
little
bit
and
would
love
to
be
able
to
take
our
dog
there
as
well.
G
I
I
this
is
just
to
wrap
this
up.
My
I've
been
at
clark
square
park
many
times
it
has
very
limited
parking,
so
I'd
like
to
have
a
real
count
of
what
the
parking
is
like
there,
there's
a
really
small
amount
and
otherwise
you're
parking.
G
AZ
And
with
regard
to
the
lincoln
street
beach,
I
think
we
should
consider
maybe
thinking
this
wouldn't
be
ideal
for
dog
owners,
but
maybe
the
possibility
of
months
when
it's
the
beach
isn't
used
so
much
by
northwestern
students,
so
maybe
for
spring
and
fall
months
only
in
terms
of
negotiating
and
maybe
finding.
If
we
could
maybe
use
that
beach
for
some
period
of
time
would
be
nice,
I
mean
if
we
couldn't
use
it
during
the
summer,
even
fall
months
or
spring
months
would
be
wonderful.
A
Okay,
well
thanks
to
everyone
for
their
input.
Thank
you,
ms
biggs,
for
the
presentation,
and
I
imagine
we'll
be
hearing
more
about
this
at
another
time.
G
I
move
that
we
discussed
the
animal
shelter
improvements.
BA
A
AY
I'm
sharing
this
presentation.
Okay
again,
my
name
is
laura
biggs,
I'm
the
city
engineer
and
I'm
here
to
talk
about
the
evanston
animal
shelter,
improvements.
AY
AY
There's
been
a
lot
of
resolutions
and
agreements
about
how
this
happens,
but,
roughly
speaking,
they
operate
with
a
300
000,
a
year
budget
of
which
the
city
of
evanston
provides
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
per
year.
They
are
a
no
kill,
shelter
which
is,
and
there's
still
always,
some
unfortunate
issues
in
a
shelter,
but
they
operate
at
a
very
high
rate,
even
of
success
even
for
no
kill
shelter.
AY
They
also
provide
a
number
of
social
services,
including
a
pet
food
pantry.
They
provide
assistance
with
medical
bills
for
pets
and
a
custodial
program
for
pet
care
owners
that
have
to
go
into
long-term
health
care
issues
and
can't
take
care
of
their
pets
for
short
periods
of
time,
so
their
focus
is
really
on
keeping
the
pets
in
families
homes
so
that
they
don't
have
to
take
care
of
the
pets-
that's
my
summary,
my
plug
for
them,
but
that
is
essentially
how
they
are
operating
the
shelter.
AY
Now
the
existing
building
has
a
number
of
issues
that
we've
talked
about.
The
there
was
plenty
of
public
comment
on
this,
so
I
won't
go
into
too
much
detail,
but
basically
the
shelter
was
built
a
long
time
ago
in
the
70s.
It
was
intended
to
be
an
impound
facility
for
dogs
until
they
were
euthanized.
There
wasn't
really
a
lot
of
thought
given
to
how
to
provide
good
care
for
animals
for
an
extended
period
of
time
and
cats
were
not
accounted
for
in
this.
AY
AY
So
in
2015
we
entered
into
the
partnership
with
the
evanston
animal
shelter
association
and
during
the
period
of
2015
to
2017
city
staff,
did
an
evaluation
of
a
lot
of
city
buildings
and
what
their
capital
needs
were,
and
it
became
clear
that
the
evanston
animal
shelter
had
some
really
specific
needs
that
were
not
easily
solved,
and
so
I
made
city
council
aware
of
that
in
a
budget
presentation
in
2017,
with
the
suggestion
that
we'd
hire
a
consultant
to
do
a
study
was
directed
by
the
city
council
at
that
time.
AY
AY
AY
Meanwhile,
staff
had
done
a
funding
assessment
or
a
cost
proposal
and
determined
that
really
we
were
talking
about
a
six
million
dollar
project
and
we
hoped
that
maybe
if
we
did
a
renovation,
we
could
reduce
that
to
four
and
a
half
million
dollars,
but
pretty
much
this
entire
time
that
our
current
staff
has
been
working
on.
This
we've
seen
this
as
a
four
and
a
half
to
six
million
dollar
project,
and
with
that
I
will
turn
it
over
to
my
colleague,
shane
carey.
K
K
There
were
three
major
decisions
that
we
that
I
want
to
describe
to
you
tonight,
two
of
which
I
need
feedback
from
the
council
on
how
to
proceed.
The
first
one
that
I'm
going
to
describe
is
the
decision
whether
or
not
to
do
a
renovation
and
addition
or
a
new
construction
building.
K
The
second
one
has
to
do
with
the
size
of
the
building,
the
level
of
services
that
this
building
is
going
to
be
capable
of
when
we
are
finished,
and
then
the
third
one
is
the
level
of
sustainability
that
we
are
going
to
attain,
and
this
is
directly
affected
by
our
climate
action
and
resilience
plan.
K
So,
as
far
as
the
site
analysis
goes,
there
are
several
things
that
will
affect
the
cost
of
reusing
the
existing
building.
The
interior
walls
of
the
existing
building
are
made
out
of
cmu.
These
are
difficult
to
demolish.
The
corridors
that
are
in
the
building
are
small
and
the
spaces
inside
are
really
small.
Now
what
this
means
is
that
we
have
to
the
the
interior.
Walls
are
not
in
the
right
place
and
we
have
to
move
them
all
so
that
causes
costs.
K
Additionally,
the
we
have
a
peaked
roof
and
the
peaked
roof
actually
lowers
our
exterior
walls
rather
dramatically
and
they're,
not
in
the
right
again
they're
the
wrong
size
for
any
kind
of
building
that
we
would
build,
so
we
would
have
to
extend
those
exterior
walls
up.
K
Additionally,
if
you
reuse
an
existing
floor
plan,
there
are
certain
efficiencies
that
you
lose
when
you
do
a
new
design,
you
have
to
work
with
the
puzzle
that
you
have
in
front
of
you.
You
have
to
configure
the
spaces
the
best
that
you
can
and
it's
not
quite
as
perfect
as
if
you
were
to
do
new
construction
and
then,
lastly,
we
looked
at
the
location
of
the
parking.
K
K
So
we
believe
that
it
would
be
far
superior
for
the
project
if
we
relocated
the
parking
lot
to
the
east
side
of
the
building
and
reuse.
The
traffic
signal
that
is
already
in
use
for
the
shopping
center,
that's
across
oakton
street,
and
we
would
also
be
able
to
use
that
for
any
future
development
in
the
recycling
center.
K
So,
with
all
that
in
mind,
we
did
a
cost
analysis
and
it
looks
like
the
reusing.
The
existing
building
would
either
be
cost
neutral
or
it
would
cost
us
more
money
to
reuse,
which
is
a
little
bit
against
intuition,
but
because
of
all
those
reasons
that
I
just
described
is
why
that
has
happened,
all
right.
Moving
on
to
the
level
of
use
or
the
level
of
services
that
the
building
can
provide.
K
We
broke
the
different
options
into
three
different
levels:
a
health
and
welfare
community
programs.
For
this
this
is
kind
of
the
base.
Building
that
we
absolutely
have
to
have
in
order
to
function
and
meet
the
the
requirements
that
have
been
put
forth,
that
we
applied
for
for
the
cook
county
grant.
K
In
this
we
right-sized
the
capacity
of
the
facility,
meaning
that
we
had
to
increase
the
number
of
dog,
kennels
and
cat
cages
that
we
would
be
using
and
also
adding
cat
colonies.
Instead
of
just
cages,
we
would
add
a
community
room.
The
community
room
is
used
for
a
variety
of
different
things
from
dog
training
to
community
outreach.
K
There
are
certain
social
services
that
we
would
be
able
to
accommodate.
Also,
it's
important
that
we
would
be
separating
the
adoption
and
the
intake
areas
within
the
building
intake
is
a
very
different
experience
from
adoption.
We've
got
us,
you
know
moments
when
you're,
giving
up
your
pet
are
very
sad,
and
it's
really
best
to
keep
that
separate
from
happy
moments
such
as
when
you're
going
to
be
adopting
a
new
dog.
K
Also,
it's
also
important
that
we
separate
the
species,
cats
and
dogs.
They
cause
each
other
a
lot
of
stress
when
they
can
see
each
other
and
smell
each
other,
and
our
current
facility
has
that
a
new
facility
would
not
so
those
are
all
the
things
that
would
be
accommodated
in
the
level.
One
we've
also
provided
another
category
of
level
two
which
has
certain
operational
efficiencies
associated
with
it.
We
would
increase
the
size
of
the
building
in
order
to
have
a
sally
port,
and
this
is
helps
with
impounded
animal
transfers.
K
K
This
expansion
of
medical
facilities
would
lower
the
ongoing
costs
that
the
evanston
animal
shelter
would
have
to
have,
and
it
also
would
provide
the
opportunity
for
community
spay,
neuter
and
vaccine
programs.
Now
the
evanston
animal
shelter
association
has
never
provided
those
in
the
past,
so
it
might
take
them
a
little
while
before
they
start
to
provide
these
services,
but
it
would
be
a
possibility
with
with
this
level
of
services
and
then,
finally,
the
level
three
provides
additional
space
in
almost
everything
it's
a
little
bit
bigger
everywhere.
K
This
provides
more
human
comfort,
it
has
additional
space
for
adoptions,
and
all
of
this
additional
space
would
provide
flexibility
and
helps
with
the
volunteers,
which
there
are
a
very
large
number
of
volunteers
at
this,
for
the
evanston
animal
shelter
so
and
down
below,
there's
this
chart.
That
indicates
the
different
costs
that
are
associated
with
those
two,
those
levels
of
services
all
right.
So,
additionally,
we
have
to
discuss
our
sustainability
goals.
K
The
city
co,
the
city
has
code
requirements.
We
have
a
green
order,
green
building,
ordinance,
sorry,
and
we
also
follow
the
international
energy
conservation
code
2018.
K
And
there's
a
cost
that's
associated
with
with
these
advancements
and
then
finally,
we've
put
into
a
bucket
of
net
zero
energy
building
and
then
that
zero
energy
building
is
one
that
produces
as
much
energy
as
it
uses
over
the
course
of
a
year,
and
this
is,
there
are
a
lot
fewer
buildings
that
have
this
and
a
lot
fewer
animal
shelters.
I've
found
two
that
have
been
designed
and
they're
under
construction,
but
I
don't
have
any
I
haven't
found
any
that
have
actually
been
built.
K
K
K
It's
in
use
24
hours
a
day,
all
days
of
the
week
and
all
year
round,
so
that
increases
the
amount
of
energy
use.
Additionally,
there's
a
lot
of
cleaning
that
has
to
be
done
and
that's
energy
as
well,
and
then,
finally,
we
have
a
tremendous
number
of
air
changes
that
are
associated
with
an
animal
shelter.
K
The
air
changes
are
closer
to
certain
sections
of
a
hospital
than
they
are
say,
a
residence
or
or
an
office
building,
so
those
so
that
that
causes
me
to
hesitate
to
say
that
we
can
absolutely
do
this
without
any
problem.
There
are
definitely
some
issues
that
need
to
be
overcome.
Some
challenges
so
here
I've
here
is
a
slide
that
shows
a
matrix
of
the
cost,
the
budgets
that
are
associated
with
each
of
these
different
options
along
the
rows.
We
have
the
sustainability
goals
in
the
columns.
K
Let's
see
and
then
we've
I've
included
one
percent
public
art
in
the
in
these
numbers.
K
Yeah,
okay,
so
after
you
provide
direction
for
us,
we
can
go
back
to
halliburton
route.
We
will
negotiate
a
contract
to
go
into
the
design
phase
of
the
project
and
we
can
bring
that
back
in
the
second
council
meeting
in
october.
We
will
then
go
through
the
design
through
for
the
year.
2022
would
probably
take
just
about
the
entire
year,
and
then
we
will
go
into
construction
in
2023
with
the
intent
of
operations
starting
at
the
animal
shelter
at
the
final
quarter
of
2023.
L
AT
AY
K
AY
F
Yeah,
thank
you
shane
and
laura
for
the
presentation
and
thank
you,
vicky
and
all
the
folks
who
are
advocating
on
behalf
of
this.
I
received
a
number
of
emails
from
folks
enthusiastically
supporting
us
and
in
fact
sat
on
the
subcommittee
that
is
planning
part
of
this,
and
so
I
am
supportive.
I
think
we,
you
know
we
have
a
duty
to
ensure
that
we're
providing
for
the
welfare
of
all
of
our
neighbors
in
the
community.
That
includes
our
pet
friends.
F
I
actually
do
have
a
question
for
vicki,
but
first
I'll
say
you
know.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
also
financially
responsible
to
our
taxpayers,
and
so
you
know,
while
I'm
supportive.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
keeping
this
in
a
pretty
tight
range
and
that
we
don't
let
you
know,
cost
get
out
of
hand,
as
has
occasionally
happened
in
the
past,
and
if
you
look
at
fountain
square
now,
and
so
with
that
I
actually
do
have
a
question.
F
It's
really
to
the
services
that
you
all
provide,
because
I
was
a
bit
unaware
of
some
of
them.
I
learned
some
new
things
about
some
of
the
pet
food,
I'm
so
those
are
great
services,
I'm
glad
that
those
are
provided,
those
provide,
as
we
can
see,
a
lot
of
value
to
the
community,
and
so
it's
a
you
know
if
we
can
expand
some
of
those
with
this
new
building,
particularly
I'm
curious.
Does
the
shelter
provide
spaying
and
neutering
for
you
know
for
exa?
I
recently
got.
M
We
really
don't
have
the
the
resources
to
do
that.
What
we
would
for
what
we
would
do
in
the
new
facility,
ideally
is
we
we
need
to
hire
a
veterinarian
in
the
new
facility
either
way,
and
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
have
sufficient
space
and
sufficient
veterinary
staff
within
the
new
building
to
be
able
to
provide
provide
that
service
to
people.
But
right
now
we
send
all
of
our
animals
out
the
the
ones
for
adoption
to
private
veterinarians
and
the
you
know
the
cost
is.
F
I'm
also
thinking
specifically
for
low-income
folks
in
our
community
who
have
you
know.
For
example,
I
recently
adopted
a
cat
needs
to
get
spayed
neutered
and
for
lower
income
folks,
the
closest
place
to
get
affordable
services.
You
know,
for
you,
know,
spaying
and
neutering,
particularly,
but
veterinarian
services
overall
is
going
down
somewhere
near
26
in
california,
or
something
like
somewhere
near
county.
It's
somewhere
over
in
that
vicinity
and
that's
a
pretty
far.
M
Actually
treehouse
recently
opened
a
clinic
that
provides
low-cost,
spay
and
neuter
services
to
residents,
and
we
refer
a
lot
of
people
to
their
program.
You
have
to
make
an
appointment.
I
don't
know
exactly
what
the
costs
are,
but
I
know
that
they
did
recently
how.
AR
F
F
F
M
F
And
then
from
your
based
on
the
various
proposals
that
are
before
us,
I
mean
obviously
there's
an
actual
minimum
proposal.
But
what
is
the
minimum
hope
of
the
shelter.
M
So
if
we
had
a
blank
check,
obviously
you
know
we
can
make
either
of
these
two
recommended
proposals.
Work
I
mean
they're.
Both
you
know
we'd
love
to
have
the
higher
one.
Absolutely
we
would,
but
we
can
make
either
of
these
work
for
the
community
and
as
long
as
you
guys
give
us
the
basic
funding
that
we
need
for
the
five
and
a
half
million
or
six
million
dollar
kind
of
base
level
and
then
do
whatever
with
the
sustainability
I'll
be
we'll,
be
we'll
be
good.
F
And
I'm
just
I'm
sorry,
I
walked
out
during
part
of
the
presentation
to
talk
about
something
later
on
the
agenda.
The
base,
five,
the
base
that
you're
talking
about
the
city
is
the
city
only
putting
up
2.5.
M
M
F
M
F
Okay,
well,
I
think
well
thank.
AV
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
thank
you
for
all
the
good
work
you
do
at
the
shelter
full
disclosure.
We
are
a
dog
family,
one
of
many
who
acquired
a
new
family
member
during
covet
and
they
finally
convinced
the
dad
I'm
fully
on
board
at
this
point
to
address
your
questions,
do
we
demolish
the
billing,
or
do
we
renovate
the
current
one
and
if
I
understood
correctly,
renovating
and
adding
on
is
really
not
viable
from
a
you
know,
car
perspective.
AY
It's
not
cost
effective,
it
will
make
the
project
more
challenging.
The
final
appearance
is
likely
to
be
less
aesthetically,
pleasing
and
there's
no
cost
savings
to
it,
which
was
actually
sort
of
disappointing
to
find
out.
We
had
hoped
that
that
would
be
where
we
could
save
money,
but
it
just
didn't
seem
to
work.
AV
AV
Sorry
somebody
was
online,
I
think
anyway,
so
I
guess
the
conclusion
is:
is
tear
down
and
build
new,
and
so
on.
Your
other
question
is
which
level
of
service
it's.
AV
I
had
a
question
about
if
we
expand
to
the
level
two
and
adding
the
operational
efficiencies
that
cost
a
little
bit
more,
but
we'll
save
money
and
so
how
much?
What?
What's
the?
What
does
that
math
look
like
yeah?
How
much
money
will
it
save
on
operational
expenses
and
is
there
a
reasonable
payback
for
that
extra
investment.
K
We
don't
have
the
kind
of
the
level
of
detail
required
for
the.
We
don't
have
enough
detail
in
our
budget
analysis
to
identify
exactly
how
much
or
kind
of
the
life
cycle
costs
are
going
to
be.
So
it's
difficult
for
us
to
say
exactly
at
this.
AV
My
personal
opinion,
or
might
you
know
my
feeling
is,
I
would
lean
towards
level
two,
not
knowing
what
the
numbers
are
and
hopefully
the
numbers
will.
You
know
help
justify
that
that
conclusion
that
I
want
to
jump
to
and
talking
about
the
environmental
commitments.
L
AV
Am
in
favor
of
going
as
green
as
possible
and
the
similar
conversation
there's
a
trade-off
between
you
know:
increased
capital
expenses-
and
you
know
over
time-
reduced
operating
expenses
you're,
probably
too
early
in
the
process.
Now
to
be
able
to
specifically
look
at
those
numbers,
so
you
know
I
will
say
in
my
opinion,
at
least
at
least
level
b,
making
it
solo
ready-
and
you
know
whatever
you
know
we
can
justify
from
you
know
a
20-year.
You
know
financial
perspective
to
invest
more
upfront
that
will
save
over
time.
AV
I
think
that
makes
sense.
You
know
we'll
have
to
let
the
engineering
in
studies
and
the
the
financial
performance
kind
of
speak
for
themselves.
At
that
point,
on
the
technical
side
we
mentioned,
we
mentioned
solar-
I
assume
you're
thinking
solar
pv,
but
because
of
the
increased
hot
water
use.
This
might
be
a
good
candidate
for
solar
thermal,
which
generally
doesn't
make
financial
sense
for
residents
these
days
because
we're
offsetting
natural
gas.
AV
But
if
we're
offsetting
electricity,
which
we
would
be
in
this
case,
solar
thermal
might
be
worth
looking
into
so
I'll,
just
I'll
just
throw
that
out
there,
and
you
know
if
we're
doing,
if
we're
doing
the
level
b,
we're
designing
a
solar
ready
building.
That
means
to
me
a
roof
that
is
situated
to
maximize
solar
intake
structurally,
it
can
accommodate
solar,
which
wouldn't
be
a
big
deal,
and
you
know
appropriate
conduit
in
place
to
allow
solar
panels
to
be
installed.
AV
I
hope
to
be
discussing
you
know
later
ways
we
can
go
solar
on
other
city
buildings,
including
perhaps
this
one
at
no
upfront
cost
to
the
city,
a
discussion
for
another
time,
but
just
to
give
you
a
heads
up
there
and
then
last
but
not
least,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
considering
ongoing
maintenance
costs
for
this
buildings.
AV
So
we
don't
run
into
another
old
robber
crown
or
harley
clark
where
you
know
20
years
into
a
relationship
with
a
non-profit.
We've
got
a
building
that
is
in
decrepit
state
of
repair,
so
whatever
we
can
do
to
address
that
and
make
sure
that
that
maintenance
funds
are
readily
available.
So
are
not
caught
off
guard
at
some
point
down
the
line
thanks.
A
Thank
you.
Next
is
councilmember
kelly,
followed
by
revel.
AZ
Thank
you.
Thank
you
to
all
the
volunteers
and
the
board
at
the
evanston
animal
shelter,
full
disclosure.
We
have
adopted
four
animals
from
the
animal
shelter
they
aren't
all
with
us
now,
but
over
the
years
and
have
loved
them.
Thank
you
very
much.
So
I
just
have
a
couple
of
questions
also
to
dovetail
a
little
bit
on
questions
regarding
costs,
so,
like
square
foot
cost
what
what?
What
are
we?
It
sounds
like
we're.
Looking
at
a
pretty
high
dollar
amount
on
square
foot,.
K
So
the
way
that
we've,
the
way
that
we
did
it
was
we
looked
at
other
the
we
have
connelly
architects,
which
is
an
an
animal
shelter
specialist
and
they
have
done
several
animal
shelters
in
the
midwest
and
we
took
their
cost
per
square
foot
and
extrapolated
them
to
our
to
to
our
environment.
Our
labor
sorry.
K
And
we
also
at
the
same
time
that
we
did
that
we
also
looked
at
halliburton
route,
provided
their
square
foot
costs
for
several
buildings
that
are
in
the
area
and
compared
those
square
foot
costs
to
buildings
that
are
outside
of
the
area.
So
both
of
those
things
kind
of
work
together
and
that's
how
we
came
up
with
the
cost
per
square
foot.
I
don't
have
the
number
off
the
top
of
my
head
of
what
the
math
works
out
to
for
the
so.
AZ
AZ
AZ
K
AY
AZ
K
For
this-
and
it
also
includes
costs
for
for
temporary
facilities
and
and
the
design
fees,
are
all
wrapped
up
into
that
cost.
Okay.
So
it's
much
large!
It's
that's
not
how
you
usually
say
this
is
how
much
the
building
is
going
to
cost.
AZ
I
see
okay
and
so
like
I
know
I
believe
the
council
voted
on
the
amount
of
money.
So
far.
That's
voted
on
sorry,
the
hundred
thousand
for
the
I
guess
it
was
for
the
consultants
for
phase
one.
Is
that
right
so
and
has
that
been
completed
phase
one.
K
Phase
one
is
not
quite
completed
we
felt
like,
because
we
came
across
these
major
decisions
that
we
needed
feedback
from
the
council,
that
we
were
going
to
get
that
feedback
and
finish
off
the
conceptual
design
over
the
course
of
the
next
month
and
then
move
into
the
schematic
design,
which
is
a
part
of
the
design
phase.
Okay,.
Y
AY
L
H
H
It
seems
to
me
that
providing
that
surgical
space
and
being
able
to
offer
vaccinations
and
spay
and
neuter
services
to
our
residents
is
will
ultimately
help
make
sure
that
we
have
fewer
unwanted
pets
and
so
that
that's
a
really
important
benefit
to
the
broader
community
and,
along
with
council
member
nusm.
I'd
like
us
to
be
as
green
as
possible.
H
C
seems
perhaps
more
expensive
than
we
can
manage,
or
there
are
some
technical
issues
that
maybe
we're
not
quite
ready
for
so,
but
I
would
hope
that
we
could
go
at
least
with
b.
You
know
so
that
we're
zero
carbon
emissions
on
site
and
making
this
as
solar
ready
as
possible.
So
I
would
vote
for
level
2b.
G
I
I
would
agree
with
councilmember
revell
and
councilmember
nusma,
and
I
also
wanted
to
thank
you
and
thank
all
the
volunteers.
You
know
I
it.
It
never
ceases
to
me
to
amaze
me
that
we
have
150
volunteers
for
our
animal
shelter,
and
this
is
essentially
run
by
volunteers
on
a
300
000
a
year
operating
budget
which
is
pretty
impressive,
200,
000
of
which
is
raised
by
them
every
year.
So
there's
just
clearly
very
strong
support
in
the
community.
For
this,
and
as
much
as
I
wish,
we
could
have
a
net
zero
building.
G
We
do
have
a
net
zero
building
here
in
evanston
the
walgreens
on
on
chicago
avenue,
and
I
know
that
that
was
very
complicated
and
cost
walgreens
quite
a
bit
because
I
don't
know
how
many
more
of
those
they've
built
since
then,
and-
and
this
is
even
more
complex-
the
building
because,
as
you
said,
it's
closer
almost
to
a
hospital
in
the
sense
of
the
air
exchanges
and
the
types
of
separation
that
are
needed.
So
I
I
agree
that
I
do
think
having
the
spay
and
neuter
and
a
vet
clinic
on
site
is
really
important.
AY
L
AX
Yeah,
I
will
be
super
quick,
so
I
my
question
about
level.
Two
is
well
one.
I
just
will
say
that
cook
county
does
do
spade
and
neutering
of
animals,
so
there
is
spade
and
neutering
available,
but
with
the
expanded
medical
facilities.
Would
that
include
community
vet
care
or
just
care
for
the
animals
in
the
shelter.
M
It
would
be
a
long-term
goal
that
a
community
that
included
community
animal
care
as
well.
As
I
said
we
haven't
done,
we
haven't
had
a
vet
on
site
and
we
we
need
to
walk
and
crawl
a
little
bit
before
we
would
just
say
yeah
we're
going
to
have
a
public
clinic,
but
that
is
our
long-term
goal
in
that
scenario,
okay,
thanks
so.
AX
I
would
go
for
one
or
two:
the
you
know.
The
price
difference
is
not
really
that
substantial.
So
if,
if
the,
if
the
nonprofit
thought
they
could,
you
know
ramp
up
services
and
by
you
know
having
two
that
would
be
helpful
in
terms
of
sustainability,
I
think
it
would
be
great.
However,
we
also
have
to
pay
for
a
lot
of
things,
so
I
would
be
fine
with
a
or
b
looking
at
the
final
cost
would
make.
You
know,
would
make
help
me
make
my
decision
for
that.
AX
I
also
have
concerns
about
just
the
long-term
maintenance
of
the
building.
So
for
that
reason
I
think
for
me,
that's
why
I
kind
of
toggle
between
a
or
b
one
or
two
I
mean
I
want
to
make
sure
we
have
some
reserves
and
if,
if
going
with,
you
know
level
two,
but
only
doing
like
a
for
sustainability
allowed
us
to
have
more
money
on
hand
to
make
repairs.
That's
far
more
important,
because
you
know
sustainability
is
great
and
all
those
things,
but
also
not
having
a
building.
AX
That's
going
to
fall
apart
because
we
don't
have
maintenance.
It's
also
very,
very
important
to
me
and
then
the
last
thing
is
you
know
I
like
art
well
enough,
but
I
would
be
willing
to
not
have
the
one
percent
for
public
art
and
have
that
money
either
put
into
the
building
cost
or
the
maintenance
cost.
Or
you
know
something
else
is
just
a
little
more
tangible.
AX
I
just
think
public
art
in
front
of
the
animal
shelter
is
not
necessary,
particularly
as
we
are
trying
to
make
sure
the
animal
shelter
has
what
it
needs
inside.
I'm
just
not
that
concerned
about
public
art,
and
probably
we
could
find
someone
in
the
community
to
donate
something
down
the
line
if
we
really
thought
that
was
important,
so
I
think
for
a
project
like
this
I'd
rather
have
that
one
percent
thrown
back
into
actually
building
a
better
building
or
some
other
kind
of
service
for
the
community.
AY
Yes,
you
actually
can
decide
to
do
it.
I'm
not
trying
to
throw
art
under
the
bus
here
just
want
to
be
clear.
You
can
decide
to
set
the
budget
at
whatever
you
want.
The
ordinance
says
there
is
a
public
art
ordinance.
The
city
council
will
set
up
to
one
percent
of
the
construction
of
a
new
public
facility
towards
public
art.
A
The
next
speaker
is
councilmember
burns.
BB
AY
BB
Cool
well,
I
just
wanted
to
to
say
you
know.
We
I've
heard
people's
opinion
about
government
from
time
to
time
to
say
that
government
could
be
wasteful
and
when
folks
said
that
they
weren't
thinking
about
the
evanston
animal
shelter,
they
have
a
army
of
volunteers.
That
we've
heard
today
doing
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
and
and
staff
who
you
know,
I
would
imagine,
aren't
being
paid
for
every
hour,
they're
working,
the
truly
committed
group
of
staff
and
from
from
from
my
understanding,
folks
that
were
doing
this.
BB
You
know
working
in
this
this
field
way
before
they
became
staff
at
the
city
of
evanston,
and
so
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
their
ongoing
efforts
to
make
this
facility
what
it
is.
I
mean
they've
completely
stretched
what
the
functionality
of
closet,
space
and
bathrooms
and
and
all
types
of
things
to
try
to
make
this
space
work,
and
so
I
will
be
on
board
also
for
for
level
two
b.
But
I
just
wanted
to
acknowledge
the
efforts
of
both
staff
and
volunteers.
Amazing,
work.
A
F
Yeah
again,
I
have
full
confidence
in
the
evanston
animal
shelter,
but
in
the
case
that
they
cannot
meet
their
fundraising
goals,
are
we
is
the
city
then,
on
the
line
to
make
up
the
difference.
F
F
F
But
I'd
love
to
see
as
council
member
kelly
mentioned,
if
we
can
just
make
sure
that
this
is
the
most
affordable
rate
that
we
can
get
so
I'd
love
to
see
some
comparables
and
you
know
get
that
per
square
footage
rate.
So
we
can
compare
that
to
other
animal
shelters.
I
think
are
incoming
that
our
interim
city
manager
or
incoming
interim
city
manager
guendouzi
had
a
conversation
with
a
while
ago.
F
I
think
you
know
she
may
be
familiar
with
a
few
places
that
have
built
shelters
recently,
and
so,
if
we
can
just
look
at
some
of
those
numbers
and
get
strong
comparables
for
local,
that
that
strengthened
my
resolve
even
more
so
thank
you.
AZ
A
With
three
minutes
and
20
seconds.
AZ
Left
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate
that
too.
That
again
I
very
much
deeply
appreciate
the
animal
shelter
and
want
to
support
it,
but
I
just
so
just
voting
on
these
without
really
understanding
the
square
footage
price
and
compared
to
others,
it's
a
little
bit
hard.
I
mean
I'd
like
to
give
them
everything
so,
but
it,
but
I
want
to
understand,
is
that
you
know
where,
because
what
I'm
hearing
from
others
and
architects
and
some
other
people
in
construction
that
were,
you
know
that
they
that
the
square
footage
rate
is
really
high.
AZ
So
I
just
want
to
see
if
you
could
just
break
it
down
for
us
a
little
bit
the
square
footage
price
and
maybe
cost,
and
then
again
some
comparables
with
others,
I
think
would
just
would
be
helpful
just
in
terms
of
getting
clarity
on
the
cost.
Thank
you.
AT
A
So
that's
everyone
who's
requesting
to
speak,
but
but
on
that
point
let
me
just
ask
so
what
exactly
are
you
looking
for?
There
were
two
two
well,
I
guess
three
recent
issues
were
raised
recently.
One
is
the
issue
that
was
just
discussed
about
hey,
just
sort
of
help
us
understand
why
this
is
the
least
expensive.
A
It
can
be.
You
know,
based
upon
some
analysis
of
comparables.
One
was
councilmember
reed's
point
about
is
there?
Is
there
isn't
really
an
assurance
that
the
costs
would
be
as
advertised
because
there's
900
thousand
dollars
of
fundraising
that
that
was
standing,
our
confidence
in
the
shelter
that
that
could
that
could
fall
to
that
could
fall
to
us,
and
I
think
I
said
three,
but
I
meant
two.
A
So
those
are
two
sort
of
questions
that
were
raised
and
I
guess
the
question
then
to
you
is:
what's
the
what's
the
timeline
of
the
decision
points,
for
instance,
what's
the
at
what
point
would
it
be
costless
or
cost
negligible
to
shift
between
level
two
and
level
one?
If
we
discover
that?
Oh,
the
fundraising
is
falling
short
and
all
of
a
sudden
there's
an
additional
burden
being
put
in
the
city
that
we're
not
necessarily
in
a
position
to
to
handle.
AY
AY
In
addition,
the
interim
city
manager
has
some
experience
and
connections
in
the
animal
shelter
world
and
she
has
provided
a
lot
of
information
already
to
us.
So
I'm
sure
we
can
get
some
additional
information
and
get
that
sent
out
as
a
budget
memo
for
people
to
see
and
then
our
most
likely.
Our
next
point
of
contact,
where
we're
actually
facing
each
other
across
the
podium,
is
when
we
come
back
with
a
contract
for
architectural
consulting
services,
and
that
would
be
the
last
point
to
change
at
a
negligible
cost
investment.
A
Understood,
well,
I
think
you've
I
mean
I
I
felt
like
there
was
not
a
consensus
sort
of
a
majority
on
a
particular
spot,
but
those
questions
still
kind
of
lingering,
and
so
I
would
say
if
you
can
provide
answers
to
some
of
those
questions
and
then
ensure
that
any
you
know
any
follow-up
gets
addressed
and
before
that
vote
around
a
month
from
now,
I
think
we'll
be
in
good
shape.
AY
Absolutely
thank
you
very
much
for
the
feedback
and
then
shane
briefly
went
over
this,
but
we
would
essentially
be
completing
the
design
phase
next
year.
There's.
This
is
in
a
zoning
overlay
district.
So
there's
some
additional
planned
unit
development
approval
processes
that
have
to
occur,
which
will
occur
simultaneously
to
the
design
for
the
most
part,
and
then
construction
would
be
scheduled
for
2023.
F
Can
I
just
say
that
vicki,
if,
when
this
comes
back,
hopefully
you
can
bring
with
your
fundraising
consultant
a
solid
plan
on
how
you
guys
are
coming
to
the
million
within
a
month.
M
Absolutely
one
of
the
things
I
want
to
say
is
that
part
of
what
I
was
hoping
to
get
tonight
and
you
guys
definitely
did
it
was
the
ability
to
go
forward
with
the
capital
campaign,
and
let
people
know
that
this
is
moving
forward
and
the
city
supports
it
and
that
there
is
a
level
that
you
know
is
acceptable
that
will
be
put
in
from
the
city.
So
that's
a
great
that's
what
I
needed
and
that's
what
you
guys
gave
us.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you
so
much
well.
That
brings
us
at
9
35
to
our
consent
agenda.
I've
already
been
asked
by
some
some
precocious
council
members
to
pull
the
following
items
off
the
consent
agenda:
a1,
a14,
a15,
a16
and
a17.
AJ
A
I
A
AX
A
AX
AV
As
was
a
as
was
a9
on,
the
council
agenda,
also
a9.
F
AX
A7,
I
just
have
a
quick
question.
I
hate
to
hold
it,
but
I
just
have
a
clarifying
question
for
a7.
Okay,.
A
F
A
C
A
C
Okay,
move
the
consent
agenda.
What's.
A
A
Council,
member
reid,
moves
the
consent
agenda.
Is
there
a
second
second
council
member
reed
moves
the
consent
agenda
with
items:
a
1,
a
3,
a
5,
a
7,
a
9,
a
13,
a
14,
a
15,
a
16,
a
17,
an
r1
removed
council
member
braithwaite
seconds?
Is
there
any
discussion
seeing
none
of
the
player?
Please
call
the
roll.
BC
A
I
Mr
mayor
member
city,
council,
this
is
for
action
item
a1,
which
is
the
harris
credit
card
activity
ending
in
july
26.
in
the
dollar
amount
of
10,
931
dollars
and
49
cents.
That's
for
action.
A
Is
there
a
second
second
councilmember
braithwaite
moves
item,
a
one
council
member
when
seconds?
Is
there
any
discussion
seeing
none
with
the
clerk?
Please
call
the
role
council.
BC
A
On
a
vote
of
seven
to
zero
with
one
abstention
item,
a
one
passes
council
member
braithwaite.
Would
you
like
to
make
a
motion
on
item
a
three.
I
No
sorry
that
was
my
mistake.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
members
of
city
council,
I'd
like
to
move
item
a5,
which
is
the
approval
of
the
change
order,
number
one
to
the
contract
with
christie,
weber
and
company
for
landscape
maintenance
of
robert
crown.
This
is
for
action.
L
C
B
A
The
change
order
for
the
contract,
with
christy
webber
and
company
for
landscape
maintenance.
A
I
AX
A
Council
braithwaite
moves
item,
a7
councilmember
fleming
seconds.
Is
there
any
discussion?
Councilmember
fleming.
AX
I
have
a
quick
question
that
I
don't
think
I
saw
in
the
memo
or
any
of
these
older
cars
were
replacing
going
out
for
sale
either
through
the
community
listing
that
we
had
before,
and
I
realized
I
think,
obviously,
the
ambulance
somebody's
going
to
buy
that,
but
or
are
they
just
too
old
and
just
going
to
be,
I
think,
there's
some
kind
of
exchange.
We
usually
do
or
take
them
back
somewhere.
E
Yeah,
actually,
I'm
not
sure
the
answer
to
that
and
I
was
hoping
that
maybe
somebody
was
on
the
zoom
call.
That
would
be
able
to
answer
that.
But
it
looks
like
nobody
is
jumping
at
the
bit
to
do
that.
So
I'm
going
to
have
to
get
back
to
you
on
the
answer
to
that.
BA
AX
AX
L
A
On
a
vote
of
nine
to
zero
item,
a7
passes,
and
that
brings
us
to
item
a
13..
Would
you
like
to
make
a
motion
council
member
sure.
I
Resolution
91-21
allocating
850
thousand
in
our
funding
to
the
2021
equipment
replacements.
A
AV
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
we're
talking
here
about
850
000
in
arpa
funding,
and
we
still
don't
have
a
defined
strategy
of
how
we're
going
to
address
the
entire
43
million
in
arpa,
so
yeah.
I
would
very
much
prefer
that
we
finalize
our
big
picture
strategic
discussion
rather
than
piecemeal
out
the
money
you
know
before
we
have
before
we've
settled
on
how
we're
going
to
allocate
arpa
funds
between
the
various
buckets.
AV
So
I
guess-
and
I'm
not
saying
we
ultimately
wouldn't
end
up
approving
850
000
for
this
expense.
I'm
not
questioning
the
judgment
in
spending
money
in
that
way,
but
I
just
I'm
very,
very
uncomfortable.
We
are
continuing
to
chip
away
at
the
arpa
funds
without
having
had
our
our
strategy
fully
defined.
So
if
we
did
not
approve
or
held
this
item
this
evening,
yeah,
would
there
be
a
practical
implication
in
waiting
to
have
our
strategic
discussion
complete
before
we?
We
vote
on
this
particular
expense.
E
It's
somewhat
of
a
tricky
question
and
that
when
the
budget
was
approved
last
year,
the
council
directed
that
we
bond
for
these
vehicles.
It's
not
the
best
practice,
but
at
the
time
it
was
the
best
option.
Given
the
situation
that
we
found
ourselves
in
when
we
came
to
the
point
at
which
we
were
ready
to
issue
bonds
this
year
there
was
a
collective
direction
of
the
council
that
we
should
minimize
any
bond
issue,
given
that
we
were
going
to
be
awarded
43
million
dollars
in
our
funds
and
the
direction
from
the
federal
government
was.
E
Excuse
me
so,
while
I
understand
we'd
like
to
leverage
these
funds
and
get
a
massive
return
on
them
and
their
investment,
because
it's
one
time
and
once
in
a
generation,
it's
also
prudent
and
practical
to
use
them
for
this
purpose.
Given
the
fact
that
we're
going
to
be
putting
less
debt
on
the
community,
if
we
chose
to
use
this
money
for
that
purpose,
and
the
the
downside
of
not
passing
this
tonight
is
that
there's
no
other
funding
source
that's
been
offered
to
pay
for
these
vehicles
that
are
coming
out
of
the
current
year
budget.
E
A
Sure,
and
before
I
call
in
folks
just
just
you
know
in
response
to
that
back
and
forth,
I
don't
know
that
I've
said
in
fact
I
haven't
said
into
this
microphone
in
reaction
to
what
I
thought
was
really
really
important
feedback
from
council
when
we
discussed
arpa
just
at
our
most
recent
meeting,
we
will
be
having
a
special
meeting
a
week
from
today,
which
I
expect
should
have
only
one
agenda
item
which
will
be
discussion
of
arpa
that
can
hopefully
enable
us
to
resolve
some
of
these
questions.
AX
Well,
I
agree
with
what
mr
newsman
said,
but
given
what
I'm
city
manager
story
said,
I
would
be
happy
to
table
this
until
we
have
those
arpa
conversations
and
as
she
said,
maybe
we
would
decide
it's
best
to
pay
down
some
debt
or
at
least
buy
some
things
we
were
going
to
bond
for
so
that
we
don't
have
more
debt,
but
I
do
think
it's
probably
good
to
have
a
larger
conversation
and
I
think,
just
kind
of
given
my
last
comments
as
well
about
vehicles.
AX
While
this
many
of
our
staff
are
working,
we
still
have
you
know
the
building's,
not
open.
We
have
many
staff
who
are
still
working
from
home,
and
so
I
am
always
just
kind
of
concerned,
particularly
coming
out
of
a
year
where
we've
had
a
parking
lot.
You
know
pretty
much
full
of
vehicles
that
haven't
been
used
as
much.
AX
You
know
just
making
sure
we're
kind
of
over
analyzing
the
number
of
vehicles
we're
buying.
Given
that
again,
a
lot
of
our
staff
are
still
working
at
home,
so
I
would
be
happy
to
I'll
wait
for
everyone
else
to
talk,
but
to
table
this
until
we
get
further
in
our
discussions.
F
Well
that
thank
you,
councilman
renews
man
fleming
for
recognizing
this.
I
I
also
will
say
that
we
need
to
you
know,
really
get
our
plan
in
place
before
we
continue
spending
money,
particularly
looking
at
some
of
the
particular
equipment
replacements.
I'm
just
a
bit
curious.
You
know
there
are
some
of
the
vehicles
are
2017
vehicles
and
it
seems
a
bit
soon
to
be
replacing
those
vehicles.
So
I'm
hoping
we
can
and.
F
To
put
into
perspective
once
more
that
the
45
million
dollars,
when
you
compare
it,
you
know,
certainly
you
know
we're
a
lot
larger
than
a
family,
but
you
know
this
would
be
like
receiving.
If
you
make
your
average
household
income
in
evanston
is
70
dollars
a
year.
This
would
be
our
compared
to
our
budget
received
the
upper
money
that
we're
receiving
is
like
a
family.
F
F
Let's
just
keep
that
into
perspective,
and
you
know
that's
not
a
whole
lot
of
money
and
if
you
really
want
to
make
it
something
that
makes
a
difference,
you'd
have
to
invest
that
money
fairly
wisely
in
your
personal
life,
and
I
think
we
need
to
understand
that
if
we
want
to
use
this
seemingly
large
amount
of
money,
but
in
the
grand
scheme
of
things
a
fairly
small
amount
of
money,
if
we
want
to
use
it
wisely,
we
have
to
be
a
lot
more
intentional,
so
I'll
leave
it
there.
Thank
you.
I
The
43
today
right
now
out
of
that
43,
I
think
we
only
have
23
coming
in
that
we
can
spend.
Is
that
right,
city
manager
story?
They
were
that's.
E
I
I
That
still
needs
to
be
budgeted
through
the
process
versus
going
out
to
bond
so
we're
using
cash
versus
credit
card.
I
think
this
is
something
that
we
can
move
forward
with.
I
think
we
should
move
forward
with
it
and
and
not
delay,
as
these
things
will
be
a
part
of
our
budget
process.
I
mean
I
pay
attention
to
vehicles
coming
in
and
out
and
we've
had
robust
conversations
of
the
last
few
years.
Our
staff
members
are
a
lot
better
and
I
do
think
that
we
should
move
forward
with
this
without
delay.
Thank
you.
G
Well,
I
I
will
be
brief.
Also,
these
are
all
vehicles
that
are
being
used
constantly.
They're
public
works
vehicles.
Those
people
haven't
stayed
home.
This
is
all
these
are
all
vehicles
that
are
being
used
to
to
maintain
our
streets,
our
facilities,
I'm
looking
at
them
a
2011,
a
1981
forklift.
G
So
we
do
need
to
get
to
this.
I'm
willing
to
table
it,
but
this
is
infrastructure.
That's
what
this
is.
This
is
what
keeps
our
staff
safe
our
city
safe.
So
I
appreciate
what
alderman
council
member
nusma
is
saying,
but
these
are
all
vehicles
that
are
worn
out
so
and
to
in
order
to
keep
our
employees
safe
and
get
the
job
done
we
are
going
to
have
to
per.
This
is
part
of
running
this,
the
city.
So,
while
I'm
happy
to
wait,
I
do
think
we
need
to
purchase
because
I'll
tell
the
story
again.
G
My
first
month
as
a
city
city
council,
member
16
of
our
18
garbage
trucks
were
out
of
service
16..
That
means
we
had
no
garbage
pickup
for
several
weeks
and
why
did
that
happen?
Because
the
fleet
services
division
of
the
city
was
terrified
to
come
to
the
council
back
in
the
90s
and
ask
to
have
their
vehicles
replaced.
G
I
I
was
staggered
by
that.
We
had
no
garbage
pickup
for
several
weeks
in
in
1997,
because
16
of
our
garbage
trucks
out
of
18
were
not
working.
That
was
neglect
on
the
part
of
the
city
council.
BC
A
I
believe,
if
I
understood
it
properly,
that
the
proposal
from
the
city
manager
was
to
delay
the
vote
until
our
second
meeting
in
october,
which
would
be
three
weeks
after
next
week.
BC
Okay
is:
is
there
anybody
is
shy,
sean
here
or
is
there
anybody
who
could
just
tell
us
what
what
the
practical
consequence
of
holding
off
that
that
long
would
be.
It
certainly
seems
like
a
reasonable
request
on
the
part
of.
BD
Councilman
good
evening,
city,
council,
mayor
bis:
this
is
sean
cholik
facilities
and
fleet
manager.
So
you
know
if
we,
if
we.
K
BD
Off,
I
guess
the
question
alderman
suffered
in
and,
if
you
could
repeat
that
again
is,
is
that
the
question
is
that
what
would
it
impact
if
we
held
off.
BC
Sean,
I'm
sorry
we're
both
on
on
zoom.
So
I
apologize
for
talking
over
you,
but
my
specific
question
is:
if
we
were
to
have
the
discussion
next
week
and
then
most
likely
vote
on
this
favorably.
BC
I
would
imagine,
but
I
wouldn't
presume
to
know
how
people
are
going
to
vote
at
the
meeting
two
weeks
after
does
that
create
a
problem
for
you
in
terms
of
getting
these
board,
or
I
mean,
is
what's
the
practical
effect
of
of
having
a
discussion
on
monday
about
how
we're
gonna
use
our
funds
and
putting
this
on
an
agenda
for
for
a
subsequent
meeting.
BD
Yeah,
I
I
don't.
I
don't
think
a
couple
weeks
is
going
to
make
that
big
of
a
difference.
You
know
we
we've
moved
forward
with
planning
and
and
obtaining
some
quotes,
and
things
like
that,
so
we're
we're
in
the
process
of
of
doing
what
we
have
to
do
and-
and
you
know
a
few
weeks,
a
few
weeks
is
not
going
to
make
a
big
difference.
Okay,.
BC
I
appreciate
that
sean
and
I
I
mean
I
would
just
encourage
everyone
to
take
that
into
consideration.
Maybe
we
move
along
a
little
bit
more
slowly.
You
know
sean
does
an
excellent
job
and
if
he
says
that
this
wouldn't
create
a
big
problem,
maybe
it
it's
a
good
idea
to
just
hold
off
a
little
bit
and
have
a
fuller
discussion
about
what
we're
going
to
do
with
all
the
other
funds.
So
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
for
indulging
me.
E
The
reason
why
this
exists
on
the
agenda
this
evening
is
that
our
budget
team
is
attempting
to
put
together
the
2022
budget
as
we
speak
and
knowing,
where
current
year
vehicles,
many
of
which,
who
have
already
been
approved,
to
be
purchased
where
that
funding
source
is
coming
from
affects
how
they
prepare
next
year's
budget.
So
if
we're
not
going
to
use
arpa,
our
only
other
option
is
to
use
cash
on
hand.
E
We've
already
issued
the
bonds
for
this
year,
so
we
can
run
the
equipment
replacement
fund
into
a
deficit
and
borrow
next
year
and
pay
back
for
this
year
or
we
can
use
arpa
or
we
can
use
any
fund
balance
we
may
have
at
the
end
of
the
year,
but
that
will
affect
how
2022
is
budgeted
and
that
funding
would
then
not
be
available
for
anything
else
that
might
be
in
the
proposed
budget.
But
again,
like
I
said,
if
you
want
to
wait,
we
can
certainly
wait.
BD
I
apologize
this
is
shawn
and
and
very
good
point
erica,
and
I
guess
when
I
was
responding,
that
was
it
from
a
from
a
fleet
and
facilities
standpoint,
not
not
considering
how
that
impacts,
impacts,
the
budget
team.
So
thank
you
for
clarifying.
A
So
no
one
who
has
not
yet
spoken
is
seeking
to
speak
so
council
member
nusma
for
a
second
time
with
3
minutes
and
42
seconds
left.
AV
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
just
to
reiterate,
I'm
not
questioning
the
need
for
these
new
vehicles,
I'm
not
questioning
the
expense,
that's
necessary
to
replace
these
vehicles
and
I'm
certainly
not
questioning
the
list
of
vehicles
that
needs
to
be
replaced
vehicles.
This
is
not
about
vehicles.
This
is
about
arpa
and
getting
ahead
of
ourselves.
Spending
harp
of
money
before
we've
had
a
high-level
strategic
discussion,
and
so
I
think,
for
that
reason
I
am
going
to
move
to
hold
item
a13
until
it
dates
certain
table
until
a
date.
AV
Certain
thank
you
for
that
correction
table
a13
until
the
date
certain
that
date
being
our
second
regular
meeting
in
october
october,
25th
second.
A
Councilmember
newsma
moves
to
table
item
a13
until
the
october
25th,
regular
city
council,
meeting
council
member
fleming
seconds.
Mr
cummings,
is
this
a
debatable
motion.
A
Okay,
then,
let
me
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
role
on
the
motion
of
the
table.
BF
H
F
BB
Unless
we
have
a
meeting
plan
to
specifically
to
exclusively
talk
about
arfa,
I
don't
think
we're
going
to
have
a
high
level,
as
you
put
it
conversation
about
our
plus,
so
that
we're
talking
about
you
know
from
a
practical
standpoint.
I
think
practically
you
know
this
came
up
in
one
of
our
other
committees,
or
maybe
at
the
last
council
means
like
we
need
to
designate
some
times
specifically
to
talk
arpa
or
we're
not
going
to
have
a
high
level
of
conversation.
A
F
Yeah,
that's
why
I
voted
no
because
so
I
I
I
agree
with
all
the
earth
council
member
newsma
about
you
know
the
hold
and
it
being
about
our
spinning
of
arpa.
Again
to
the
point.
You
know
we
only
have
had
21.5
million
dollars
this
year.
We've
already
spent
near
over
a
third
of
that
I
believe
or
when
you
include
this
it'll,
be
over
a
third
of
what
the
money
we
receive
for
this
year.
F
I
think
we
spent
over
five
yeah.
We
spent
like
five
million,
thus
far
yeah
and
so
with
that,
but
I
will
say
that
I
am
you
know.
While
it
is
about
the
arbor
funding,
I
am
just
a
bit
curious
and
I'd
love.
If
staff
can
come
back,
particularly
when
I'm
looking
at
you
know
2017
vehicles,
I
get
you
know,
there's
a
vehicle,
that's
not
even
proposed
to
be
fun
funded.
That's
from
you
know,
I
don't
know
1970
or
19
whatever
it
is,
but
you
know
2017
ford
explorer,
I'm
just
curious.
F
A
Yeah,
I
think
that's
a
great
great
discussion
for
us
to
have
so
I
would
you.
L
A
I
would
echo
your
interest
in
learning
more
about
about
the
life
cycle
of
our
of
our
fleet.
That
brings
us
to
item
a14
councilmember
braithwaite.
Would
you
like
to
make
a
motion.
I
A
BB
I
just
wanted
to
to
start
off
by
making
a
few
clarifying
points
and
I'm
just
gonna
roll
right
into
it,
because
I
know
I
have
about
five
minutes,
but
one,
no
one
that
had
has
no
one
working
on
this
iga
elected
officials
or
city
staff
have
recanted
our
support
for
an
iga
agreement.
That
is
false.
BB
BB
BB
I
was
uns
sure
on
how
aware
this
65
leadership
was
about
the
tiff,
and
so
I
extended
an
invitation
to
both
school
districts
to
meet
to
again
create
another
opportunity
to
to
receive
input
from
them.
The
the
current
draft
of
the
the
so
the
the
concern
around
in
iga
came
up
when
there
were.
There
was
a
draft
that
we
saw
that
had
no
considerations
on
the
part
of
district
55,
and
so
it
was.
We
talked
to
our
legal
counsel
and
they
said
that
there
should
be
mutual
considerations
in
an
iga.
BB
BB
So
that's
where
it
stands
at
this
point,
and-
and
there
also
were
considerations
on
our
part-
that
in
my
opinion,
without
going
into
more
detail
than
I
need
to,
but
it
needs
to
be
on
the
record
that
I
think
fundamentally,
our
level
of
social
engineering
that
most
people
on
this
council,
I
don't
think,
would
support
and
and
we're
working
through
those
and
we
never
left
the
table
like
we're.
Still
there.
BB
We,
we
corporation
council,
coming
sent
over
a
red
line
version
a
few
days
ago
and
we
were
waiting
for
a
response
from
district
65
and
this
response
still
doesn't
address
the
line-by-line
redline
with
comments
that
council
member
council
cummings
provided
to
them,
and
I
also
just
want
to
say
that
the
tiff
already
has
a
formula
we're
required
by
state
statute.
There's
a
formula
where,
if
the
student
population
increases
in
the
tif
area,
the
the
city
has
to
provide
a
contribution
right.
It's
already
in
the
budget.
BB
We're
also
committed
to
making
sure
that
people
who
are
already
being
displaced
have
affordable
units
that
they
can
live
in,
which
is
something
that
justificates
to
spending
till
funds
on
so
again
to
separate.
The
two,
I
think,
is
unfair.
This
is
the
same
student
population.
It's
the
same
community,
it's
an
area
where
28
of
the
people
living
in
the
area
are
under
the
poverty
line,
where
only
20
percent
go
on
and
and
graduate
from
a
four-year
four-year
college.
BB
So
what
that
signals
to
me
is
it's
a
low,
lower
income
area
that
needs
affordable
units,
which
is
what
this
tif
will
provide
and
that
needs
workforce
development
training
so
that
they
can
contribute
in
a
way
that
they
see
fit
here
in
evanston
that
allows
them
to
enter
into
the
middle
class
and
and
anchor
themselves
in
in
this
community.
So
I
just
I
wanted
to
to
make
those
clarifying
points.
Thank
you.
F
Yeah
I
so
I,
as
I
stated
the
last
meeting,
I'm
not
going
to
repeat
it,
but
I
generally
am
not
a
supporter
of
tiff.
You
know,
I
think,
if,
if
there
was
going
to
be
a
tiffany
in
evanston,
this
would
be
an
area
that
tiff
makes
sense
in,
but
the
real
problem
is,
you
know
how
do
we
use
tiff
funds?
F
And
you
know
I
think
some
of
my
colleagues
will
differ
with
me
on
this,
but
I
think
historically,
the
city
of
evanston
has
not
shown
a
propensity
to
direct
tiff
funds
to
folks
who
we've
shown
a
propensity
to
give
to
funds
to
large
developers,
and
so
I
understand
folks's
hesitancy.
F
But
I
think
this
tiff
is
a
bit
different
one
in
that
it's
one
of
our
first
tips,
our
first
tif
and
maybe
one
of
the
first
in
the
state
that
primarily
focuses
on
residential
areas
in
an
effort
to
bolster
affordable
housing
in
the
city.
I
I,
as
I
said
I
think
generally,
there
are
issues
with
tiff
and
that's
why
I'll
be
introducing
a
a
a
number
of
ordinances
to
strengthen
tiff.
So
one
you
know,
I'm
going
to
be
introducing
an
ordinance
to
declare
a
tiff
surplus.
At
some
point.
F
You
know
fun
stay
in
a
tiff
unused
non-earmarked,
for
you
know
some
defined
time
period
that
we
see
is
unreasonable.
Those
tif
fund
dollars
should
be
returned
to
the
various
taxing
bodies,
particularly
65
and
202.
F
You
know,
councilman
burns
has
pushed
this
idea
for
this
particular
tiff,
which
is
having
an
advisory
board
made
up
of
members
of
both
the
in
within
the
tif
district
and
folks
outside
of
the
tif
district,
and
I
think
that's
a
great
idea
and
I'd
like
to
see
that
codified
into
law,
not
just
for
this
tif,
but
for
all
tiffs
in
evanston,
so
I'll
be
making
a
referral
for
an
ordinance
to
create
an
advisory
board
for
all
tiffs,
including
this
one
to
make
it
mandatory
and
then
for
transparency.
F
We
do
know
that
on
the
front
end,
tiff
expenditures
are
a
bit
different
from
regular
expenditures
in
some
regard,
in
that
they
don't
go
through
tiff
expenditures,
don't
go
through
the
annual
appropriations
process
and
there's
more
of
an
ad
hoc
process
for
approving
tiff
expenditures,
but
where
it
is
the
same,
is
that
those
tiff
expenditures,
just
like
any
other
expenditure,
come
before
this
council
and
are
approved
by
this
council
as
long
as
that?
You
know,
as
with
regular
funds?
F
It's
you
know
over
twenty
five
thousand
dollars,
but
on
the
so
on
the
front
end,
it's
it's
fairly
summer
similar,
but
on
the
back
end,
the
reporting
is
not
the
same
as
regular
expenditures
and
I'd
like
to
strengthen
transparency
for
the
way
that
we
expend
tif
dollars-
and
you
know
part
of
that
is
also
giving
these
the
advisory
board
a
bit
of
teeth
when
it
comes
to
making
recommendations
for
expenditures
and
and
to
that
point
you
know,
I
certainly
am
committing
you
know.
F
If
this
tif
is
to
to
to
come
to
fruition.
I
will
not
at
any
point
support
giving
tif
dollars
to
large
developers
for
to
build
luxury
housing.
You
know
the
only
thing
I
think
we
should
be
giving
tiff
dollars
toward
is
building
affordable
housing.
We
know
that
affordable,
there's,
a
high
cost
to
building
affordable
housing
and
part
of
the
way
we
can
increase
in
affordable
housing
is
by
you
know,
taking
some
of
that
burden
off
of
developers
and
thereby
the
folks
who
are
going
to
live
in
those
buildings.
F
I
think
this
tif
could
be
a
vehicle
for
that.
Some
of
the
concerns
I've
had
you
know,
residents
and
from
both
my
ward
and
across
the
city,
reach
out
to
me
quite
extensively
and
another
issue
that
I've
heard
that
you
know
wasn't
addressed
in
the
three
ordinances
that
I'm
going
to
be
proposing.
F
Is
you
know
there
are
two
properties
within
this
tiff
that
some
folks
are
concerned
about
it's
the
emerson
ridge,
green
bay,
as
well
as
the
civic
center?
You
know.
Certainly
some
folks
have
raised
concern
that
you
know
we
haven't,
decided
to
sell
the
civic
center
or
or
to
do
anything
with
the
civic
center.
Yet
it
may
be
too
early
to
decide
to
put
in
the
tiff,
and
I
think
it's
not.
I
mean
we
know
that
this
building
is
needs
a
lot
of
repair.
F
F
Thank
you,
and
so
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
have
this
building,
regardless
of
if
we
decided
to
sell
it
or
we
decided
to
renovate
it
makes
sense
to
have
this
building
within
the
tiff
and
then,
lastly,
for
the
emerson
ridge,
green
bay
building.
It
makes
sense
to
have
that
and
it's
a
commitment
of
the
city
to
say
that
all
of
the
increment
that
is
generated
from
that
property
is
going
to
go
to
this
specific
area.
F
The
fifth
ward-
and
I
think
that
is
an
important
commitment
because,
as
I
said
last
time,
otherwise
we,
the
city
council,
would
have
to
commit
to
match
the
funds
that
we're
going
to
commit
to
this
area.
Through
the
tif.
We
would
have
to
commit
three
million
dollars
minimum
annually
to
this
area
and
if
we're
concerned
that
the
tif
can
be
changed
in
the
future,.
I
I
Spend
that
we
did
where
we
had
money
coming
out
for
capital
projects
that
moved
through
our
cip
budget
in
a
three-year
increment
and
the
tif
is
very
similar
to
arpa
that
we
use
it
as
a
way
of
funding
projects
that
move
through
the
system.
So
I've
been
on
council
10
years.
I
don't
know
where
we've
ever
given
tiff
money
directly
to
residents.
I
don't
know
when
we've
ever
given
tiff
money
to
purchase
or
buy
houses
or
repair
houses.
I
could
be
wrong.
I
could
be
wrong.
I
We've
used
cbdg
in
other
funds,
but
here's
what
I
can
tell
you
that
in
2012,
the
west
evanston's
tiff.
If
and
I'm
talking
to
you
cousin
burns
and
also
to
read
because
everyone
keeps
talking
about
housing.
So
in
2012,
1
million
dollars
went
towards
infrastructure
for
emerson
square
right.
We
didn't
give
money
to
the
developers.
I
We
didn't,
spend
the
money
on
a
brick,
but
we
paid
for
necessary,
necessary
infrastructure
that
offset
the
cost
of
those
homes,
and
you
drive
up
and
down
emerson
and
you're,
seeing
affordable
housing
fast
forward
to
2011,
when
the
evanston
plaza
that
everyone
walks
by
it
was
purchased.
For
eight
million
dollars,
68
vacancy
in
2014,
it
then
sold
for
16
million
dollars.
Valley
purchased
it.
What
did
we
get
for
that
with
the
two
million
dollar
investment?
I
Well,
we
got
a
brand
new
grocery
store
over
150
jobs,
and
if
you
look
at
it
right
now,
it's
over
90
occupied
with
businesses
that
are
generating
not
only
retail
tax,
but
then,
when
it
sold
for
36
million
last
year,
we
gained
325
thousand
dollars
in
transfer
taxes
and
the
amount
that
the
that
center
is
going
to
pay
in
taxes.
That
goes
back
eventually
will
go
back
to
our
tax
roll.
I
I
I
can't
even
do
the
math,
so
I
just
think
it's
important
that
when
we're
discussing
this,
we
understand
the
fears
of
people
moving
out
like
I
don't
know
anybody
in
the
second
ward
that
moved
out
because
of
that
evanston
plaza.
If
anything,
it
provided
necessary
jobs.
Fifth,
ward,
emerson,
square,
new,
affordable
housing
right
for
families
that
needed
to
be
stabilized
so
where
this
notion
comes
from
that
it's
moving
black
people
out,
I
feel,
is
a
myth.
I
I'm
I
can
stand
to
be
corrected,
but
again,
that's
part
of
the
education
process,
and
I
think
it's
so
important
that-
and
this
is
my
final
point
in
looking
at
the
tips,
whether
it's
washington,
west
evanston,
evanston,
plaza,
and
now
this
new
tiff.
I
can't
tell
you
that
we've
ever
done
an
intergovernmental
agreement.
I
I
So
I'm
going
to
support
it,
I'm
going
to
support
the
vision
that
our
council
have
used
over
the
years
to
transform
our
downtown
transform
the
west
end,
particularly
around
the
family
focus
area,
help
boost
the
economy
in
the
west
evanston
and
we're
going
to
do
the
same
thing
with
the
new
one.
If
given
opportunity,
thank
you.
AX
I
think
I
just
want
to
point
out
ottoman
braithwaite.
AX
I
think
the
difference
is,
and
I
think
just
coming
back
to
town
when
valley
folks
brought
the
old
far
more
plaza
was
that
if
I'm
correct-
and
I
I
didn't
look
at
them
before
I
got
here-
was
that
really
encompassed
a
commercial
area
and
so
a
lot
of
fears
that
people
have
whether
it's
based
on
for
for
folklore
or
whatever
else
is
that
this
tif
encompasses
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
residential,
and
so
I
think
that's
the
difference
in
terms
of
the
fear
of
what
people
have
around
around
this
stuff
but
to
council
member
burns
point
you
know
I
have
not
been
in
any
discussions
with
school
board.
AX
AX
AX
But
I
just
wanted
to
speak
to
some
people's
fear,
which
is,
I
think,
just
that
you
know
the
fifth
ward
is
changing
and
it's
you
know
gonna
still
change
some
more,
whether
we
have
a
tiff
or
not,
because
some
of
that
is
just
the
capitalist
society
we
live
in,
but
I
don't
want
to
just
you
know.
Definitely
some
people
have
misinformation,
but
I
don't
want
to
you
know.
I
don't
think
that
we
as
a
government
could
just
tell
people
hey
xyz
is
not
going
to
happen
right.
I
also
think
tifton
no
tiff.
AX
If
our
council
wanted
to
commit
to
you,
know
truly
kind
of
racial
reconciliation
or
racial
equity,
there's
things
we
could
do
to
make
sure
that
areas
in
which
have
not
historically
been
funded
are
funded.
I
mean
we
could
say,
as
a
council
we're
going
to
use
our
cip
or
the
majority
of
our
cip.
For
the
fifth
ward,
I
mean
we
could
do
that
without
a
tiff
without
iaj.
Without
anything
else
right.
We
could
do
that
just
because
it's
the
will
of
the
council
just
like
tonight.
AX
AX
If
we
can
change,
because
everybody
cannot
afford
to
fix
their
sidewalk
and
people
who
can't
afford
to
fix
their
sidewalk
shouldn't
be
penalized
by
things
like
roots
under
the
trees
that
we
plant,
you
know,
kicking
up
their
sidewalks,
and
so
there
are
things
that
we
can
do
as
a
city,
and
hopefully
we
will
do
as
a
city
using
the
funding
that
we
have
to
make
sure
we
support
the
people
who
either
are
the
lowest
income
or
historically,
we
have
not
supported,
and
so
I
would
hope
that
we
move
forward
with
that
tift
or
no
tift,
and
make
sure
that
everyone
has
the
same
access
to
capital
improvement
in
their
wards.
AZ
AZ
I
understand
the
concerns
of
the
district
65
board.
I
think
that
district
65,
the
largest
school
district,
will
be
the
hardest
hit.
In
terms
of
I
mean
we
have
seen
really,
you
know,
I
would
say,
no
proof
that
that
any
of
the
revenue
that
will
be
captured
wouldn't
have
been
generated
anyway
through
natural
economic
development.
So
that
means
that
all
those
funds
that
would
have
gone
to
65
they
will
lose,
and
I
think
their
concerns
are
incredibly
legitimate.
AZ
I
mean
we
have
to
be
what
they're
looking
for
their
interest
in
ensuring
that
there
are
safeguards
in
place
to
be
sure
that
this
tiff
doesn't
accelerate
the
sort
of
negative
changes
that
I
think
we're
suggesting
here
in
the
fifth
ward,
and
I
think
we
should
we
should
proceed
in
partnership
with
our
school
district.
We
should
not
be
proceeding
with
our
school
district
and
opposition,
so
I
think
these
are
legitimate
concerns.
AZ
I
think
that
we
all
have
here-
and
I
think
the
you
know
bobby,
I
think
you
know
you
intend
to
your
intentions-
are
what
they're
expressing
expressing.
But
I
would
ask
that
we
please
go
forward
with
this
in
partnership
and
collaboration
with
district
65
and
I'd
like
to
ask
I'd
actually
well
I'd
like
to
table
all
of
this
and
ask
that
you
please
come
back
and
sit
down
with
and
come
back
with
work
out
an
iga
at
this
point,
so
that
it's
in
partnership
and
in
collaboration
with
our
district
65.
AZ
Until
they,
I
would
like
to
ask
that
we
work
this
out
so
that
we
come
back
with
and
I
j.
Hopefully
you
know
I
I
can't
say
how
fast
they
would
do
this.
Maybe
they
do
it
in
a
day
or
two
days,
but
until
we
come
back
with
an
agreement
with
an
iga
with
district
65,
so
that
we're
moving
forward
in
collaboration
with
our
school
district.
BE
A
Council,
member
kelly
moves
to
table
these
items
until
the
october
25th
city
council
meeting.
Is
there
a
second
second
council
member
suffered
in
seconds?
I
just
learned.
This
is
not
a
debatable
motion,
so
would
the
clerk
please
call
the
role
on
the
motion
to
hold
to
table
these
items
until
october
25th.
H
H
D
B
A
On
a
vote
of
five
to
four,
the
motion
carries
and
these
items
are
tabled
until
october.
The
25th.
I
Just
a
quick
question
for
our
corporation
council,
I
made
some
comments
again
that
throughout
my
history,
I've
never
seen
an
agreement
with
any
school
district
any
governing
body
as
it
relates
to
tiff
funding,
which
just
the
point
of
information
any
dollars
that
move
out
of
the
tiff
is
not
like
a
single
council
member's
decision.
You
need
five,
just
as
a
reminder.
Everyone
seems
to
think
this
is
council.
Member
burns
is
tiff.
I
It
belongs
to
all
of
us
who
vote
as
well
as
the
taxpayers
who
live
in
evanston,
but
I
just
want
to
see
we're
holding
up
something
for
something
that
I've
I've
never
heard
of,
and
I
I
don't.
We
don't
need
to
unpack
it
tonight,
but
just
if
you
can
shed
some
light
at
the
appropriate
time,
because
if
this
is
the
only
thing
that's
holding
people
back,
it
feels
like
fiction
writing.
BE
So
there
there
was
when,
when
the
law
department
was
asked
to
get
involved
with
this,
mr
george
was
assigned
to
it,
and
he
and
I
had
extensions,
extensive
discussion
about
whether
we
wanted
to
have
an
ordinance
similar
to
the
west
evanston
tiff,
an
intergovernmental
agreement
with
district
65
or
resolution,
and
the
information
that
we
were
given
the
requirements,
the
what
was
being
asked
was
all
on
the
city
of
evanston
at
the
time,
and
so
that's
why
you
have
item
a14
before
you,
because
the
law
department
drafted
the
resolution,
which
would
include
all
of
the
commitments
on
the
part
of
the
city.
BE
We
really
couldn't
figure
out
a
way
to
put
it
in
the
city
code
as
an
ordinance
and
as
councilmember
burns
accurately
stated,
an
iga
needs
to
have
consideration
on
both
sides,
so
it
wasn't
until
wednesday
we
received
the
proposed
consideration
offered
by
the
district
and
that's
why
the
resolution
is
still
before
you,
because
that's
that's
what
we
had
already
done
so
that
there
is
that
history
there.
I
don't
know
of
another
way
to
to
do
this.
BE
I
think
that
the
the
intent
was
that
there
wanted
to
be
something
enforceable,
which
is
why
we
looked
at
both
an
ordinance
and
an
intergovernmental
agreement.
But
I
don't
know
of
a
history
to
your
point.
I'm
not
I'm.
We
haven't
been
able
to
figure
out
a
way
to
to
get
that
completed.
So
that
is
the
option.
That's
on
the
table
and
if
it's
approved
by
council,
it's
approved
by
council.
A
So
we're
sort
of
in
a
procedural,
no
man's
land
here
between
agenda
items.
But
I
recognize
this
is
an
important
issue
where
an
important
decision
just
got
made.
So
I'm
going
to
call
on
everyone,
but
just
ask
for
everyone's
conciseness
because
again
we're
not
we're
sort
of
we're
sort
of
off
menu.
But
council
members
win,
followed
by
reed,
followed
by
kelly,
followed
by
nussmo.
G
G
Okay,
no
yeah,
not
not
this
moment,
but
but
I'd
like
to
have
that
as
so
that
we
all
can
see
the
fact
that
the
city
of
evanston
has
had
revenue
sharing
agreements
with
both
school
districts
for
years,
and
and
so
I
I
want
people
to
see
what
the
amounts
are
of
those
things.
G
F
Yeah
I
supported
the
hold
because
I
or
the
tabling,
because
I
think
it's
important
to
have
the
iga,
but
I
will
say
that
if
the
school
district,
I
think
there
has
been
an
extraordinary
effort
on
the
side
of
the
city,
particularly
council
member
burns
and
and
council
cummings,
to
bring
district
65
to
the
table.
So
if,
on
the
you
know
the
25th
or
23rd
the
25th,
if
I
I
want
to
put
the
district
65
on
notice,
you
know
we
saw
how
this
shook
out
today.
F
I
think
it's
prepared
to
pass
so
I
would
hope
that
district
65
doesn't
drag
their
feet
and
getting
some
kind
of
iga
on
the
table
that
makes
commitments
both
from
the
city.
I
think
it's
important
that
we
will
have
a
document
that
is
legally
enforceable
by
another
unit
of
government
if
we
don't
keep
to
our
commitments
with
this
tiff
that's
important,
but
there
are
also
commitments.
You
know
there
are
different
versions
of
the
iga
and
some
of
them.
F
We,
you
know
the
district
said
that
they
were
going
to
commit
to
building
a
school
in
the
fifth
ward
and
originally
said
that
hey,
we
don't
want
tiff
funds
to
do
that.
Well,
now,
that's
not
the
same
thing.
That's
in
the
iga
and-
and
I
want
to
see
a
fifth
ward
school
and
I
want
to
ensure
that
district
65
is
also
making
some
hard
commitments.
F
Just
like
the
city
is,
and-
and
you
know
that
has
to
be
in
the
iga-
and
you
know
I
think
we
can-
we
can
move
forward
with
this
and
to
aldermen
wins
questions.
You
know
we'll
save
it
for
another
time
a
tif
discussion.
A
Great
councilmember
kelly,
followed
by
nusmo.
AZ
AV
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
voted
in
favor
of
of
holding
this
to
a
date
certain
to
allow
what
I
hope
will
be
a
productive
discussion
between
representatives
from
the
city
and
representatives
from
district
65.
Apparently
that
is
at
the
at
the
joint
review
board.
District
65
indicated
their
support.
Apparently
that
happened
without
without
unanimous
consent
or
consensus
from
the
district
65
board.
AV
So
I
I
trust
that
the
the
parties
negotiating
the
iga
will
negotiate
in
good
faith
and
also
keep
in
mind
that
you
know
the
city
has
certain
responsibilities
and
the
school
district
has
responsibilities
of
their
own.
Ultimately,
we
all
report
to
the
same
bosses,
the
the
people
who
elect
us
all,
but
we
are
two
different
organizations
with
two
different
purviews
and
let's
just
keep
that
in
mind
as
the
iga
is
negotiated
and
to
me
it's
not
a
question
of
if
we
should
do
this
tiff.
AV
A
So
I'm
sorry
I'm
just
going
to
also
ask
a
question.
I
don't
know
if
I'm
asking
council
member
burns
or
mr
cummings
or
if
mr
zelmazak
who's
in
the
zoom,
but
what
are
the
consequences
of
this
decision?
In
other
words,
what
else
about
the
timeline
will
have
to
change?
A
BF
Thank
you.
We
also
have
our
consultants,
keen
mckenna
on
the
call.
It
was
important
that
we
introduced
the
ordinances
at
the
last
meeting
to
make
sure
we
met
the
state
of
illinois
tax
allocation
act,
requirements
of
having
the
ordinances
introduced
within
90
days
of
the
public
hearing.
So
we've
we've
accomplished
that
this
you
know
one
month
or
four
week
or
three
and
a
half
week.
Delay
doesn't
really
change
much
in
terms
of
how
this
is
ultimately
implemented.
BF
BF
So
it's
important
that
we
get
this
to
the
county
unless
our
consultants
have
anything
else
to
add.
I
think
that
should
answer
the
question.
BF
No,
we
did
not,
based
on
the
our
interpretation
of
the
state
tax
increment
of
the
tax
allocation
act.
BB
Initially,
when
this
was
discussed,
it
wasn't
introduced,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
to
be
clear
here-
it's
because
it
was
already
introduced.
That's
that's
what
we
needed
to
do
first
stage
statute.
I
also
just
want
to
say
to
the
six
folks
who
supported
this
the
last
time
to
move
it
forward.
I
fully
I
fully
plan
on
supporting
this
tif
on
the
25th,
and
I
and
I
hope
you
will
too
iga
or
not.
BB
We
will
continue
to
overextend
ourselves
in
order
to
get
an
iga
done,
because
that's
that's
what
this
calls
for,
and
it's
the
it's
the
right
thing
to
do,
but
we've
never
left
the
table.
We've
fully
extended
ourselves
this
entire
time
to
get
this
thing
done.
Everybody
who
is
as
as
knowledge
of
an
iga
type
of
process,
would
probably
agree
that
it
takes
time.
You're
not
gonna,
execute
an
iga
on
the
first
pass
right,
so
it
takes
time.
That
being
said,
I
am
I
you
know
I
I
am
I
might.
BB
I
will
vote
on
this
vote
to
approve
this
on
the
25th
or
whatever
date
it
is
and-
and
I
fully
would
hope
and
expect
the
folks
who
supported
this
the
last
time
to
do
so.
Thank
you.
A
BE
BE
A
A
Oh
well,
just
someone
asked
us
to
have
it
hold
on
councilmember
reid,.
F
I
pulled
it
off
because
I'm
going
to
be
voting
no
on
it.
I
think
we
need
to.
I
think
we
needed
to
do
more
to
strengthen
our
ethics
board.
I
don't
think
this
meets
the
mark.
I
think
it
it
does
make
some
improvements,
but
I
think
we've
still
missed
part
of
the
mark,
and
so
you
know,
certainly
we
have
the
ability
to
amend
things
in
the
future.
I'll
just
be
voting
no
on
this
particular
aversion.
AZ
BF
D
A
On
a
vote
of
7
to
2
item
r1
passes
and
that
concludes
the
consent
agenda
and
brings
us
to
call
of
the
wards
beginning
with
councilmember
nusmo.
AV
AV
It's
been
a
tough
summer
around
the
world
a
tough
summer
around
the
country
with
violence,
increasing
and
murder
rates
increase,
and
we've
certainly
seen
that
here
so
condolences
to
the
family
of
those
victims
and
the
community
member
members
that
have
been
affected,
and
let's
just
take
this
as
another
reminder
that
we
have
to
do
everything
we
can
to
to
take
care
of
people
in
our
community
that
need
help
and
provide
resources
to
people
that
need
them
so
that
this
kind
of
thing
doesn't
happen.
AV
I'd
also
like
to
look
at
the
calendar.
This
thursday
september
30th
7
pm
at
robert
crown
I'll
be
hosting
a
meeting
for
neighbors
around
the
grey
park,
neighborhood
to
talk
about
issues
involving
aggressive,
panhandling,
anti-social,
behavior
and
and
related
issues.
So
fourth,
ward
residents
and
residents
of
evanston
are
invited.
Thank
you.
A
BB
Yeah,
I
also
want
to
send
my
condolences
to
the
the
stabbing
victim,
as
well
as
the
victim
of
a
gunshot
who
we
lost.
He
was
you
know,
known
and
and
and
loved
by
many
in
in
the
ward
in
the
community,
and
so
my
condolence
system
and
his
family.
I
also
just
want
to
announce
the
next
fifth
ward
hybrid
meeting
september.
30Th
7
p.m,
at
gibbs,
morrison,
there's
a
virtual
option.
BB
So,
if
you
go
on
the
city
of
evanston's,
calendar
you'll
see
a
zoom
link
provided
for
those
who
want
to
who
who
cannot
tune
in
in
person
and
for
those
who
can
again
gives
morrison
7
p.m.
September.
30Th.
Thank
you.
BC
F
Yeah,
I
also
will
would
like
to
well
first,
like
I
said
my
condolences
to
all
of
the
victims.
You
know
not
just
the
person
who
personally
experienced
about
their
families
with
the
shooting
stabbing
in
the
fifth
ward.
F
In
fact,
my
mom
grew
up
with
one
of
with
with
one
of
the
victims.
F
So
I
would
on
another
note
I'd
like
to
announce
that
we
also
have
a
fifth
ward
meeting
on
yeah.
I'm
not
the
fifth
word
alderman,
I'm
the
eighth.
What
alderman.
F
Have
an
eighth
award
meeting
on
the
30th
as
well
at
6
p.m.
Our
meeting
will
likely
run
from
6
to
7
7
30..
Our
meetings
aren't
as
long
as
council
member
burns,
so
you
can
attend
both
in
some
regards.
If
that's
your
thing
happy
to
have,
if
ours
is
completely
virtual,
you
can
find
the
link
online
to
join
in
at
some
point
in
the
near
future.
We
will
go
to
hybrid
meetings.
F
Oh
and
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
organizers
of
a
great
block
party
yesterday
in
the
fifth
ward,
shelley
carrillo.
F
Yeah,
I'm
moving
in
the
eighth
ward
yesterday,
shelley
carrillo,
christine
leone
and
marlon
milner,
thank
you
for
being
the
key
organizers
for
that
great
black
party,
bringing
folks
together
and
hoping
to
be
able
to
attend
more
black
parties
throughout
the
eighth
ward
in
the
future,
particularly
next
summer.
So
thank
you.
AX
I
just
extended
my
condolences:
saban
ross's
family,
also
to
the
family,
who
lost
a
young
person
today
in
town
just
another,
plug
that
when
we
get
to
the
opera
conversation,
we
really
think
about
not
only
spending
this
plane
on
infrastructure,
but
spending
the
money
in
ways
that's
going
to
make
a
tangible
difference
in
people's
lives.
I
think
all
of
our
nonprofits
will
tell
us
that
we,
you
know
we
have
to
do
more
as
a
city,
and
so
hopefully
we
can
think
about
doing
that
with
this
cash
on
hand,.
AZ
Join
us
for
informal
conversations,
first
award
residents
and
myself
at
graduate
tomorrow
at
four
o'clock
and
also
my
condolences
to
the
families
of
those
who
we
recently
lost.
Thank
you.
I
I
just
want
to
continue
to
lift
up
the
family
of
pastor
sally
webb.
We
several
weeks
ago,
we
talked
about
both
he
and
dr
patricia
fema's
city
staff
for
members.
His
services
was
last
week,
former
city
staff,
member,
definitely
pillar
in
our
evanston
community,
along
with
pastor
afghan
and
a
big
supporter
of
of
youth.
All
the
way,
through
our
seniors,
most
vulnerable
in
evanston,
also
saying
word
of
prayer
condolences
to
the
ross
family
as
well
as
the
other
victim
that
was
injured
in
over
the
weekend.
I
This
friday,
first
friday
october,
will
host
our
last
community
event.
I
just
want
to
send
a
special
shout
out
to
our
health
and
human
services
division,
director,
ike
ogbo
audrey
thompson
and
her
amazing
staff
of
outreach
workers.
We've
had
a
number
of
successful
events
over
mason
park.
We
haven't
had
any
issues
and
if
you
have
not
had
an
opportunity
to
attend,
I
would
definitely
encourage
you
to
come
out
this
friday.
I
think
it
begins
at
5,
00
pm
and
typically
it
goes
to
about
7
or
8..
G
Yes,
I'd
I'd
like
to
extend
my
condolences
to
all
of
the
families
who've
lost
family
members
this
week
and
to
the
entire
community
in
which
they
have
lived.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
and
with
that
I
recognize
council
member
newsmill
for
a
motion.
AV
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
Pursuant
to
5
ilcs
120
2a,
I
move
that
the
rules
committee
convened
actually
the
city
council
convened
into
executive
session
to
discuss
agenda
items
regarding
litigation
and
review
of
closed
session
minutes.
This
agenda
item
is
a
permitted
subject
to
be
considered
an
executive
session,
as
enumerated
an
exception
under
the
open
meetings
act.