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A
Here
we
have
a
quorum
president
or
prepared
to
do
our
work
for
the
evening.
The
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
my
public
announcements
and
proclamations
of
which
there
is
just
one.
A
This
meeting
declaring
July
2023,
Parks
and
Recreation
month,
in
keeping
with
the
designation
that
has
been
made
by
the
U.S
House
of
Representatives,
as
well
rather
than
read
the
whole
Proclamation
I,
would
just
say
that
this
is
both
very
much
consistent
with
the
values
of
our
community
with
what
we
treasure
and
appreciate
as
a
community,
but
it's
also
an
opportunity
to
thank
our
Parks
and
Recreation
and
Community
Services
Department
for
the
extraordinary
work
they've
done
across
a
variety
of
Dimensions
to
keep
our
city
beautiful,
to
keep
our
city
fun
to
keep
our
city
safe.
A
E
E
So
I
am
very
excited
to
share
that
Liam
Byrd
joins
the
city
manager's
office
and
our
team,
as
the
new
manager
of
organizational
performance
and
Equity
Liam,
has
over
15
years
of
experience
in
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion.
He
has
pre.
He
previously
served
as
a
founding
member
of
the
first
Equity
office
for
Chicago
Public
Schools,
where
he
was
promoted
to
director
of
racial
Equity
initiatives.
E
Liam
earned
a
master's
in
public
policy
Administration
from
Northwestern
University
and
is
a
doctoral
student
at
the
University
of
Illinois
Urbana-Champaign
in
the
educational
policy
organization
leadership
program,
with
a
focus
on
diversity
and
Equity.
Please
join
me
in
welcoming
congratulating
Liam
Byrd.
F
It's
quite
an
honor
to
have
joined
the
city
I'm
so
excited
to
be
here.
I
try
to
keep
my
listening
cap
on
so
consider.
Consider
me
a
person,
an
accomplice,
I
like
to
work
in
affinity
and
across
difference
to
disrupt
and
to
to
co-construct
for
Equity.
So
I
I
look
forward
to
working
with
each
of
you
in
in
the
coming
weeks
months
and
thank
you
so
much
for
your
warm
welcome
city
manager,
Stowe
and
mayor
biss.
I
really
appreciate
both
of
you
very
much.
Thank.
E
Next
up,
I'd
like
to
make
a
brief
announcement
about
Evanston
cradle
to
Career.
Advocates
for
Action
advocates
for
Action
is
a
community
leadership
team
formed
by
Evanston
cradle
career
ec2c,
provides
leadership,
training
for
community
members
to
amplify
their
voices
and
equip
them
to
lead
the
actions
necessary
for
Community
change.
E
G
Come
on
up,
you
guys
can
stand
in
the
front
really
quick.
First
we'd
just
like
to
thank
the
council
for
recognizing
this
group
of
our
newest
group
of
community
leaders.
G
H
H
So
without
everybody,
congratulations,
it
was
an
honor
to
be
able
to
train
you
guys,
and
you
are
now
Advocates
parallaxon,
as
well
as
members
of
kofi's
Evanston,
Branch,
a
multicultural
multilingual,
even
multi-gender
organization
and
branch
of
Kofi,
that
has
a
power
of
parents
to
represent
the
parents
of
Evanston.
Thank
you
all
so
much
thank.
E
I
As
you're
lining
up
to
take
a
photo,
I
just
wanted
to
commend
this
group,
y'all
can
keep
lining
up
and
I
was
able
to
make
it
to
one
of
the
meetings
at
Family
focused
not
too
long
ago,
and
one
of
the
things
they
did
do
is
they.
They
develop
goals
and
priorities
for
the
individual
for
the
family
and
then
for
the
community
and
I
really
appreciated
that
I
think
it's.
I
So,
just
to
wrap
this
up
for
the
created
goals
for
the
community,
for
the
individual
and
for
the
community,
and
so
I
felt
like
it
was
a
a
really
just
to
all,
encompassing
way
to
prepare
people
to
leave
because
a
lot
of
times
we
may
think
about
one
of
those
aspects,
but
not
all
of
them,
and
it's
like
it's
part
of
being
the
minimum
of
the
community.
Not
only
are
you
responsible
for
self,
but
also
your
family
and
also
your
community.
I
D
I
H
Guess
just
me
so
together
we
have
recently
this
year
been
working
on
mental
health
and
school
lunches.
We
actually
hosted
a
participatory
budgeting
session.
I
can
never
pronounce
that
word.
There
we
go
and
then
Economic
Security
is
also
one
of
our
foundational
issues.
Economy.
H
H
So
they're
building
a
little
bit
on
school
lunches
and
it's
so
awesome
to
be
able
to
talk
about
this.
In
my
own
language,
we
have
been
trying
to
improve
school
lunches
because
we
know
that
the
black
and
brown
communities
are
far
behind
and
we
know
that
one
of
the
reasons
for
that
is
because
we
don't
have
the
same
access
to
nutrition,
the
same
access
to
quality
food
and
so
we're
very
excited
together
to
work
on
that
issue
down
in
Springfield
and
all
the
way
up
here
ready
there
we
go
thank.
H
H
E
Thank
you
all
so
much
for
being
here
tonight
appreciate
it.
Next
up,
I
wanted
to
mention.
We
have
a
community
responder,
Town
Hall.
So
tomorrow
evening,
June
27th
at
5
pm
at
the
Ecology
Center
we'll
have
a
community
meeting
about
the
idea
of
community
responders.
Community
responders
are
trained
professionals
who
are
dispatched
to
low-level
calls
for
service
as
an
alternative
having
an
armed
police
officer,
attend
or
attend
to
barking
dogs,
noise,
complaints
and
other
issues.
E
Please
join
us
tomorrow
evening
at
5
PM
the
Ecology
Center
to
learn
more
and
share
your
thoughts
and
last
stop.
I
have
some
sad
news
to
report
we're
very
saddened
to
mourn
the
loss
of
Nathan,
Shelley
son
of
Barbara
and
Glenn
Shelley
and
brother
Rachel
Shelley.
Sadly,
Nathan
passed
away
in
tragic
drowning
accident
in
April
in
a
celebration
of
his
life
was
held
this
past
Saturday.
E
As
an
eths
student
Nathan
worked
at
the
City
of
Evanston
participating
in
the
mayor's
Summer
Youth
Employment
Program
later
he
served
as
a
web
Communications
intern
in
the
city
manager's
office,
Nathan
graduated
from
eths
in
2014
at
Northwestern
University
in
2018.
Nathan,
was
a
kind,
positive
and
curious
person.
He
loved
Sports
and
The
Great
Outdoors
Nathan
had
many
gifts,
including
technology,
and
was
a
successful
software
developer.
He
did
outstanding
work
when
he
worked
for
the
city
and
was
a
valued
colleague
during
his
tenure.
E
B
We
received
communication
from
Andrew
further
men
in
disapproval,
with
the
1738
Darrow
Avenue
proposal,
SP2
and
E
Tavern,
also
in
opposition
with
Hinman
and
church
condominium.
B
Oh
sorry,
the
president
of
Hinman
and
church
condominions
and
also
is
in
disapproval
of
existing
Sony
regulations.
B
The
other
one
is
Stephen
fox
in
opposition
to
the
Legacy
development
and
Terry
Burns
Hahn,
in
a
position
with
the
1621
1631
Chicago
Avenue
project.
That
is
all
the
communication
for
today.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
That
brings
us
to
public
comment
this
evening.
There
are
just
pretty
much
on
the
dot
15
speakers,
and
so
everyone
will
be
given
the
maximum
three-minute
allotment.
We
begin,
as
always
with
those
who
signed
up
on
this
piece
of
paper
and
then
we'll
move
on
subsequently
to
those
who
signed
up
online.
So
we
start
with
Laura
Kushner,
who
will
be
followed
by
Matthew
struve
and
then
Emily
Jacobson.
K
K
The
court
about
the
courts
of
Evanston
is
a
90
unit,
townhouse
complex
on
Chicago
Avenue.
This
project
will
leave
us
with
nowhere
for
our
guests
or
service
people
to
park.
Our
neighborhood
is
very
densely
populated
the
surrounding
streets,
keaney
Henman
and
South
Boulevard
are
already
packed
with
cars.
There's
nowhere
around
to
absorb
these
lost
parking
spaces.
In
fact,
street
parking
is
scheduled
to
get
much
worse
next
spring
when
the
lot
on
South
Boulevard
gets
a
new
60
unit
apartment
building.
K
Although
there
will
be
some
parking
available
to
those
residents,
our
parking
woes
will
become
even
worse,
with
60
more
homes.
Sharing
our
already
overcrowded
street
parking.
This
bike
lane
project
will
make
a
bad
situation
much
worse.
Our
concerns
about
the
Lost
parking,
which
were
communicated
to
older
women
win
by
multiple
CEO
Coe
residents
in
the
time
frame
of
the
community
input,
were
not
considered
when
planning
the
spike
path.
In
addition,
City
officials
claim
that
they're
working
on
parking
alternatives
for
the
lost
30
spaces,
but
no
plans
have
been
forthcoming.
K
Rushing
through
this
project,
as
is,
will
make
a
densely
populated
neighborhood
that
already
has
parking
issues
more
congested,
more
dangerous
and
more
frustrating
for
all
of
us
who
live
here.
Please
pause
the
progress
of
this
project
and
continue
collecting
data
from
residents
who
will
be
profoundly
impacted
by
the
remote
by
the
removal
of
these
spaces.
We
need
our
concerns
taken
seriously
before
this
project
can
progress.
A
L
L
So
I've
got
a
lot
of
experience
here.
Thank
you,
mayor
biss
and
city
council
for
this
public
discourse
on
the
ambitious
Church
Darrow
hodc
project.
Let's
hold
or
tap
the
brakes
until
hodc
changes.
Corporate
Behavior
here
are
the
facts
on
the
ground.
In
our
neighborhood,
I
have
lived
down
the
alley
from
hodc
owned,
affordable
housing
building
operated
at
319
Dempster.
L
L
It
has
been
a
hot
mess
for
years,
not
because
of
actions
of
One
Bad
Apple.
This
is
discretionary
definition.
This
is
the
dictionary
definition
to
Evanston
nuisance
property.
Our
concern
for
hodc
stewardship
of
church
Darrow
is
its
track
record
at
319
Dempster.
Sadly,
hodc
is
not
a
good
neighbor.
319
is
on
the
ward
one
and
three
border,
and
until
recently,
under
the
under
the
Community
radar
screen,
I'm
all
for
affordable
housing,
but
it
needs
to
be
safe
for
both
the
residents
and
the
neighbors.
L
There's
in
an
affordable
housing
unit
but
needs
safe
for
for
all
the
residents.
Imagine
living
in
this
place
where
people
are
throwing
microwaves
out
the
window.
We
need
essentially
a
very
simple.
We
need
somebody
that
can
have
an
extra
set
of
eyeballs
on
this
building.
We
need
a
door
person,
we
need
a
gatekeeper.
L
M
Hello
members
of
the
city
council
I,
was
here
a
few
weeks
ago
to
talk
about
the
safe
storage
ordinance
for
Evanston
and
as
the
co-lead
of
the
Evanston
Moms
Demand
Action
Group
I.
Don't
want
to
repeat
my
remarks.
We
all
know
that
gun
violence
is
an
issue
here
in
Evanston
and
that
safe
storage
is
a
piece
of
the
puzzle
to
solve
that
issue.
We
as
moms
to
be
in
action
care
a
lot
about
safe
storage
and
know
that
54
of
guns
are
not
secured
properly.
M
That's
unacceptable.
We're
hopeful
that
this
ordinance
will
help
with
that
number
and
help
reduce
the
number
of
gun
violence
incidents
in
our
community,
and
we
also
know
that,
as
was
discussed
a
few
weeks
ago,
we
should
go
further.
We
should
be
more
aggressive
and
we
should
think
through
more
solutions,
and
that
is
something
that
we
are
definitely
definitely
working
on
with
our
membership
that
has
been
convening
over
the
last
year.
So
once
again
we're
optimistic
that
the
safe
storage
ordinance
will
pass.
M
D
A
C
The
Evanston
code,
section
9-5-4,
was
written
to
address
activities
arising
from
criminal
activities,
public
disturbances
and
newest
nuisances
reoccurring
in
the
same
location,
subsection,
F,
States,
the
owner.
In
this
case,
hodc,
has
an
affirmative
duty
to
control
and
not
encourage
nor
permit
activity
which
constitutes
a
criminal
aggravated
offense
or
non-aggravated
offense
of
the
city
code
on
premises,
subsection,
G
states,
any
premise
with
one
or
more
aggravated
offenses
at
any
time
or
two
or
more
non-aggregated
offenses
in
12-month
period,
is
hereby
declared
to
be
a
nuisance
premises.
C
The
following
five
incidents
should
be
sufficient
to
meet
the
guidelines
for
evidence
of
qualifying
offense
listed
in
subsection
G
paragraph
two,
one
on
January
23
2023,
a
tenant
was
arrested
for
a
domestic
battery
in
the
building,
see
the
January
26
2023
epd
crime,
Bulletin
two
on
May
12
2023
I
saw
a
resident
of
319
dealing
drugs
in
the
alley
adjacent
to
319
Dempster.
The
activity
was
reported
to
and
confirmed
by
the
epd
task
force
and
Sergeant
Carter
of
the
neighborhood
enforcement
team.
C
Three
also
on
May
12
2023
I
was
informed
by
epd
officers,
Chipotle
and
Kane
that
in
late
January
the
same
suspect
had
been
arrested
for
drug
dealing
in
the
Bank
of
America
parking
lot
on
Chicago
Avenue,
four
on
May
23
2023
I,
witnessed
the
resident
of
319,
create
a
public
disturbance
for
over
30
minutes
in
front
of
the
Claridge.
It
took
six
epd
officers
and
six
efd,
Medics
and
firemen
to
arrest
and
subdue
this
individual
five.
The
exceptional
number
of
epd
and
efd
emergency
vehicles
sent
to
319
Dempster
create
a
nuisance
in
the
neighborhood.
C
It's
been
mentioned
that
this
is
in
the
in
the
hundreds
each
year.
I
hope
that
declaring
the
Claridge
a
nuisance
premise
would
require
the
owner
hodc
to
work
with
the
City
of
Evanston
and
Implement
a
nuisance
abatement
plan,
as
outlined
in
subsection
h.
It
is
your
responsibility
as
stewards
of
the
city
to
not
reward
hodc
by
passing
these
items,
I
urge
you
to
vote
on
hold
on
items,
SP2,
P1
and
P2
until
hodc
can
make
explicit
changes
and
improvements
at
319,
including
24
7
security,
to
prevent
more
drug
dealing.
Thank
you.
A
N
Just
briefly,
I'd
like
to
express
our
support
for
SP2,
P1
and
P4
concerning
the
hodc
and
Mount
Pisgah
development,
I'm
not
going
to
go
back
over
all
of
my
reasons
they
still
stand.
I
also
would
like
to
speak
in
favor
of
hcdc
one
amending
the
demolition
tax.
We
are
very
happy
to
see
that
the
city
is
really
looking
for
Revenue
to
support
development
of
affordable
housing
and
programs.
N
We
see
adjoining
forces
in
our
work
the
biggest
barriers
to
solving
the
problems
around
affordable
housing
and
homelessness,
our
lack
of
funding,
as
well
as
local
neighbor
opposition.
We
are
really
happy
to
see
that,
with
this
amendment
you're
taking
action
towards
addressing
the
first
of
these,
so
we
are
looking
for
approval
on
that.
Thank
you.
O
Being
council
members,
Haley
guyan
speaking
on
behalf
of
Crosby
Theodore
LLC,
the
property
that
adjoins
the
development
for
discussion
in
item
P1
on
your
agendas.
This
evening
we
I
had
submitted
a
testimony
during
the
Planning
and
Development
Committee
hearing
raising
objections
to
the
materials
that
you
received
accompanying
item
P1.
That
did
not
include
a
study
relating
to
the
storm
water
management,
a
flow
of
water,
as
required
under
Illinois
Law,
the
Platt
act.
O
Any
any
resolution
of
the
substance
in
front
of
you
should
require
this
a
study
prior
to
any
vote
by
a
body
such
as
this
Council,
and
it
was
explained
that
there
was
an
exception
to
that
rule.
Due
to
the
fact
that
there
were
the
folks
at
issue.
Are
owners
of
contiguous
and
adjoining
land
I
want
to
make
sure
the
council
is
aware
that
that
is
in
fact
not
accurate.
The
exchange
of
parcels
is
not
between
owners
of
adjoining
and
contiguous
land,
contiguous
contiguous
land.
O
The
exchanges
between
the
applicants
per
the
mem
you
received
this
evening.
The
applicants
are
hodc
and
Mount
Pisgah,
so
the
mount
pisco's
adjoining
property
owners
are
Crosby,
theater,
LLC
and
the
City
of
Evanston.
So
that
exception
is
not
applicable
here
and
cannot
be
invoked.
Thus,
we
would
reiterate
our
requests
that
item
P1
either
be
held,
or
at
least
returned
to
the
Planning
and
Development
Committee,
for
their
consideration
of
the
study
at
issue,
as
required
by
state
law
and
and
for
proper
consideration.
We
also
reiterate
our
objections
to
this
proposal.
O
For
reasons
previously
stated
at
past
committee
hearings
and
and
Council
hearings
as
well.
There
has
not
been
progress
on
this
item.
Unfortunately,
and
we
remain
concerned
about
the
way
that
the
development
will
impact
a
Historic
Landmark
Next
Door.
There
was
an
opportunity,
and
there
certainly
Remains
the
opportunity
to
understand
building
permits
have
not
yet
been
even
submitted.
There
remains
an
opportunity
for
there
to
be
preservation
of
the
Historic
Landmark.
Certainly,
concern
of
storm
water
management
is
a
major
major
issue.
O
You've
received
testimony
to
that
effect
at
the
land
use
commission
level,
all
the
way
up
to
city
council
and
any
discussion
on
whether
or
not
a
study
is
required.
Certainly
here
the
council
is
more
than
able
to
in
in
the
position
as
city
council.
Take
particular
note
of
the
fact
that
water
management
is
a
unique
element
of
this
development.
It
has
been
raised
at
length
and
so
there's
nothing
precluding
the
city
council
from
not
considering
that
study
again.
O
The
exception
does
not
apply
here,
so
a
study
is
required,
but
should
there
need
to
be
an
additional
persuasive
element
to
that
storm
water
management
in
the
fill
of
water
is
a
unique
consideration
for
the
Historic
Landmark,
so
I
would
urge
your
consideration
of
that
and
hold
this
item
until
a
study
can
be
received.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
A
P
First
of
all,
Liam
welcome
to
Evanston.
My
name
is
Patrick
Hughes
and
I've
been
involved
in
both
locally
and
nationally
in
the
disability
issues.
P
P
P
P
For
a
long
time,
our
community
was
without
an
ADA
coordinator,
as
the
position
had
been
eliminated.
At
times
it
seemed
like
the
position
was
just
a
hot
potato,
with
no
one
really
wanting
to
handle
this
important
constituency
in
our
city,
given
that
25
percent
of
our
community
has
some
type
of
disability
of
of
our
community.
Has
some
type
of
disability
I
found
that
surprising
and
because
many
of
these
disabilities
have
a
larger
impact
on
services
and
budgets?
P
As
a
result,
we
now
have
the
Commission
on
Aging
and
Disability.
Historically,
seniors
have
not
wanted
I
would
say
nationally
have
not
wanted
to
associate
with
the
disability
issues,
but
Audrey
helped
make
that
happen,
and
we
have
now
hired
an
ADA
coordinator.
Thank
you,
Lauren
Ruiz
again,
this
happened
because
of
Audrey's
insistence
and
Leadership.
A
special
thanks
also
goes
to
city
manager.
Luke
Stowe,
for
his
support.
I
am
really
grateful
for
these
developments
and
excited
to
see
us
think
bigger
versus
just
meeting
minimum
requirements.
P
Q
Thank
you
very
much,
two
items
on
the
agenda
and
I
don't
know
if
it
was
rejected
as
it
should
have
been
in
a
PW,
but
item
A6
is
a
is
the
item
for
the
Nissan
Rogue
new
car,
which
is
a
knot
which
is
not
an
EV
car.
Q
It's
a
gas
engine
vehicle
and
the
point
is
once
again
every
time
you
add
something
like
that
to
the
fleet
it's
around
for
20
years.
The
city
at
some
point
in
time
has
to
really
get
serious
about
its
claim
to
be
sensitive
to
climate
change
and
small
items
like
this.
That
should
not
even
make
it
to
the
agenda,
so
please
reject
item
A6
if
it
hasn't
already
been
rejected.
Q
I'm
also
speaking
in
favor
of
item
a13,
once
again,
I
think
it's
proven
that
all
contracts
with
the
city
in
excess
of
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
be
approved
by
the
city
council
and
then
lastly,
I'd
like
to
take
a
minute
to
double
back
on
the
on
the
email
and
the
letter
and
the
attachments
I
sent
to
the
mayor
and
to
Luke
Stowe
and
copied
the
council
regarding
Northwestern
universities,
Ryan
Field
Redevelopment,
and
how
it
conflicts
so
drastically
with
the
Northwestern
University
Charter.
Q
Now
this
is
not
something
that
should
be
taken
lightly.
It
shouldn't
be
overlooked.
It
shouldn't
be
assumed
that
a
phrase
that
refers
to
educational
purposes
solely
educational
purposes
was
meant
in
anything
less
than
the
words
as
they're
read.
Northwestern
uses
the
charter,
the
amen,
the
First
Amendment
to
the
Charter
or
its.
Q
Q
That
is
a
for-profit,
not
educational,
use
for
performances
and
concerts,
and
if
they
want
to
do
that,
that's
fine,
but
they
need
to
go.
The
process
is
to
go
to
the
state
to
go
to
the
general
assembly
and
have
that
language
changed
like
every
other
change
that
has
been
made
to
the
Charter.
It's
always
done
at
the
state
level.
City
of
Evanston
has
no
authority
to
change
the
charter
or
to
change
the
intent
of
the
charter.
Q
A
R
Hello,
mayor,
biss
city,
council
and
everyone
else,
who's
here
in
attendance,
I,
want
to
remind
you
that
four
months
ago,
a
62
year
old
man
died
at
the
Claridge
and
his
body
was
not
discovered
until
several
days
later
and
to
me
that
has
always
represented
the
attitude
that
low-income
people
as
long
as
we
give
them
housing.
As
long
as
we
find
a
place
to
stick
them
that
that's
all
we
need
to
do
that.
We
don't
really
need
to
be
concerned
about
their
welfare,
otherwise
and
I.
R
Think
that's
really
a
shame
that
that
seems
to
be
our
attitude,
and
so
I
know
that
the
current
residents
of
the
query,
at
least
one
of
whom
is
a
very
good
friend
of
mine,
have
been
asking
for
a
long
time
for
enhanced
security,
24-hour
security
to
especially
to
discourage
the
drug
dealing
problem
which
two
other
people
have
mentioned
recently,
but
also
that
there
needs
to
be
more
careful
vetting
of
the
tenant
events
and
more
responsibility
and
discussions
with
connections
for
the
homeless,
about
the
people
that
are
placed
there
and
making
sure
that
their
well-being
is
Paramount.
R
So
hodc
has
said
many
times
that
this
is
their
one
problem
unit.
They
haven't
had
such
problems
anyplace
else,
but
nonetheless
they
are
still
responsible
for
this
unit,
even
if
all
of
their
other
properties
are
working
fine,
they
seem
to
feel
that
that
enables
them
to
shirk
any
responsibility
for
what's
going
on
at
the
Claridge.
R
So
it
seems
unreasonable
for
the
city
to
award
a
four
million
dollar
contract
to
hodc
when
they
have
not
yet
as
far
as
I
can
tell
really
cleaned
up
the
problems
that
they're
dealing
with
at
the
Claridge,
so
I
would
respectfully
ask
that
the
council
put
a
hold
on
SP2,
P1
and
P2
until
we
have
a
clear
plan
with
enforceable
timelines
on
how
hodc
is
going
to
provide
the
needed
security
at
the
clearage
and
what
its
plan
is
going
for
for
maintaining
the
safety
of
the
residents.
Thank
you.
A
S
Hello
good
evening,
thank
you
for
having
us
I'm
Sarah,
Hines
I'm,
a
resident
of
the
First
Ward
and
co-lead
for
Mom's
demand
action
here
in
Evanston
with
Emily
Jacobson,
who
spoke
earlier,
I
joined
to
the
gun,
violence
prevention
movement.
A
year
ago,
when
I
found
myself
participating
in
the
uniquely
American
ritual
of
watching
the
slaughter
of
school
children,
followed
by
farcical
Declarations
of
thoughts
and
prayers
and
empty
recriminations
and
fold
across
all
my
screens,
nearly
10
years
after
Sandy
hooked.
S
S
I've
also
learned
that
the
U.S
Secret
Service
has
undertaken
two
recent
studies
of
targeted
School
violence
covering
nearly
40
Years
of
incidents
of
violence.
They
found
that
three
quarters
of
School
shooters
acquired
their
firearm
from
the
home
of
a
parent
or
close
relative.
A
study
of
incidents
from
20
2008
to
2017
revealed
that
nearly
half
of
the
shootings,
the
firearm
was
easily
accessible
or
was
not
stored.
S
Securely,
safe
storage
of
firearms
reduces
school
shootings
and
let
the
rising
crisis
in
Teen,
Mental
Health,
that
shows
no
signs
of
stopping
safe
storage
will
save
families
from
their
worst
nightmares.
According
to
Giffords
Law
Center,
even
a
modest
increase
in
the
number
of
American
homes
safely,
storing
Firearms
could
prevent
almost
a
third
of
youth
gun
deaths
due
to
suicide
and
unintentional
firearm
injury.
S
S
There
are
enough
Firearms
stolen
on
an
annual
basis
to
arm
all
offenders
who
commit
firearm,
homicides,
firearm
assaults
and
Firearm
robberies
each
year.
This
means
private
citizens
wind
up
supplying
more
than
a
quarter
million
guns
to
criminals
every
year,
just
by
not
keeping
Firearms
secured
so
in
a
state
like
Illinois,
a
beacon
of
Common
Sense
gun
legislation.
In
the
absence
of
responsible
firearm
storage,
there
is
little
ability
to
control
the
flow
of
guns
in
our
streets
and
communities
to
Echo
cancer.
S
A
T
T
We
should
be
really
demanding
that
there
is
a
written
agreement
that
outlines
what
can
be
potentially
a
game
changer
for
that
building
and
the
residents
that
reside
there,
along
with
the
community
that
lives
surrounding
the
building.
T
U
We're
president
and
I'm
also
a
business
owner
in
the
Fifth
Ward,
an
employer
of
nearly
did
I
just
catch
him,
an
employer
of
nearly
20
people
in
the
Fifth
Ward,
many
of
whom
are
Evanston
residents,
I'm,
also
the
adjacent
property
owner
at
1817
Church
and
our
Council
Haley
Geon
spoke
earlier
about
some
of
our
positions,
but
I
wanted
to
generally
approach
the
project
at
large
and
the
problem
the
city
is
trying
to
solve.
Here
is
an
unsightly
vacant
lot.
That's
where
we
began.
U
The
Proposal
will
not
solve
that
and
what's
before
the
city
council
tonight
will
not
solve
that,
it
will
actually
worsen
the
situation
rather
than
having
it
be
a
city
owned.
A
lot
will
be
privately
owned.
The
pastor
at
Mount
Pisgah
has
said
in
multiple
hearings
that
he
has
no
funding,
and
thus
it
will
remain
vacant.
If
the
city
council
approves
that
land
swap
tonight,
yet
the
city
will
then
be
hamstrung
to
do
anything
about
it
because
it'll
be
privately
owned
so,
rather
than
approving
the
swap
the
city
should
leave
it
to
hodc
to
buy.
U
The
church
is
currently
owned.
Two
lots
from
them
for
fair
market
value.
This
would
provide
the
church
with
funding
and
it
would
also
well
it
would
provide
the
church
with
funding
which
the
original
RFP
for
developing
this
vacant
lot
requested
transparency
and
information
about
where
the
person
developing
on
the
lab
would
get
the
funding.
So,
while
there's
been
discussion
here
about
hrdc
funding,
there
has
not
been
discussion
about
the
church's
funding,
which
is
actually
the
party
that
will
be
developing
the
vacant
lot.
U
So
then
I
would
suggest
that
our
fees
be
reopened,
allowing
the
church,
which
would
then
have
funding
to
provide
a
proposal
for
how
they'd
used
the
lot
I
believe
that
to
allow
this
to
go
forward
ignores
the
realities
of
the
situation
in
favor
of
a
political
win
for
those
of
you
looking
to
Proclaim
your
support
for
affordable
housing,
which
is
something
I,
truly
support,
and
that
I
believe
belongs.
In
my
word,
the
Seventh
Ward,
and
not
in
the
fifth
word.
As
many
local
residents
have
raised,
this
process
has
been
handled
badly.
U
It's
lack
transparency
from
the
start,
hodc
and
Richard
Koenig
are
the
wrong
Developers
for
this
project.
We
have
raised
this
over
and
over
the
residents
that
live
adjacent
to
another
of
their
properties
in
Evanston
and
raises,
over
and
over
the
community
has
been
remarkably
United
against
this
project
and,
finally,
we've
raised
throughout
how
it
will
be
toward
historic
buildings
detriment
when
I
have
sought
out
approval
to
do
changes
to
our
building.
15.
V
U
Fixing
windows
and
such
it
has
been
emphasized
to
me
how
significant
our
building
is
in
the
Fifth.
Ward
is
a
historic
property.
We
have
abided
by
zoning
code
and
we
have
abided
by
all
of
the
applicable
regulations,
and
if
all
of
this
is
allowed
to
go
forward,
we
will
have
relied
on
that
to
our
detriment,
because
we.
V
A
You
very
much
no
to
this
project.
Thank
you
very
much.
That
concludes
public
comment
for
the
evening
and
brings
us
now
to
special
orders
of.
W
A
Council
member
Reed
moves
that
we
have
a
discussion
on
the
Evans
and
Ecology
Center
options
for
repairs
and
Renovations
council
member
Harris,
I
believe
seconds
and
I
believe
we
have
a
presentation
from
staff
on
this
topic.
X
Hello,
honorable
mayor
biss,
members
of
city
council,
city
manager,
Stowe
city
clerk,
Mendoza
I
am
Matt
Poole
assistant
director
for
Parks
and
Recreation,
formerly
manager
of
the
Evanston
Ecology
Center.
X
Going
to
here
we
go
Ecology
Center
was
initially
built
in
1974
and
dedicated
on
Arbor
Day
of
that
year
and
Oakley
next
year.
It
will
be
the
50th
anniversary
of
the
Ecology
Center
and
its
current
location.
X
Ecology
Center
was
expanded
in
O2
to
its
current
configuration,
which
included
the
multi-purpose
room
and
the
large
and
the
corridor
through
the
back
and
then
in
2015.
There
was
additional
work
done
to
the
space
to
remove
a
greenhouse
and
the
classroom
area
was
added
at
that
time.
X
Ecology
Center
itself
we
like
most
Parks
and
Recreation
facilities,
have
two
main
branches
of
programming.
We
do
school
year,
programming
and
Camp.
Obviously,
during
the
summer
time
now
we
are
in
our
camp
season.
X
This
Ecology
Center
runs
five
different
camps
at
four
locations
around
town
College
Center
staff
also
supports
other
City
of
Evanston
camps
by
providing
additional
enrichment
programs
such
as
fishing
Critter
visits
and
a
canoeing
program
that
we
launch
out
of
the
damage
rowing
Center,
the
Ecology
Center
during
the
school
year.
We
provide
programming
for
City
above
and
some
residents.
We
have
single
event
programming
series
programming.
X
Throughout
this
last
year
we
have
provided
programming
to
42
different
organizations
in
Evanston
and
surrounding
communities.
We,
including
with
that
we
also
provide
after-school
programming
for
the
Fleetwood
Jordan
and
the
Robert
Crown
after
school
programs
and
for
the
rubber
Crown
preschool
out
of
the
Ecology
Center.
We
also
offer
a
variety
of
special
events
and
birthday
parties
and
other
programs
inside
of
the
facility
and
then
out
through
the
Staffing
there.
We
also
offer
our
free
access
to
fishing
program,
which
has
been
used
by
more
than
a
thousand
residents
in
this
past
year.
X
X
Part
of
this
program
or
part
of
this
project,
we
have
anticipated
the
expansion
of
some
of
the
programming
and
programming
opportunities
that
the
Ecology
Center
can
offer.
We
have
recently
partnered
with
right
at
school,
which
is
the
Aftercare
organization
that
provides
Aftercare
for
children
in
District.
65
College
of
Center
staff
goes
to
various
elementary
schools
around
town
to
provide
additional
programming.
X
We
also
have,
in
this
last
year,
been
able
to
grow
our
programming
to
provide
over
930
individual
programming
opportunities,
which
is
an
expansion
of
more
than
300
opportunities
since
pre-covered
year
as
part
of
our
expansion
and
our
way
to
try
to
scale
up
something.
We've
done,
we
have
increased
our
partnership
with
the
Child
Care
Network
of
Evanston
to
provide
additional
free
programming
around
town.
X
We,
our
goal
is
to
provide
free
programming
in
every
ward
in
town
and
to
also
utilize
some
of
the
larger
or
other
Park
spaces
in
the
area.
An
additional
project
that
is
coming
up
is
the
possibility
of
a
canoe
launch
being
put
in
in
the
lad
Arboretum
adjacent
to
the
Ecology
Center.
X
With
that,
we
would
be
able
to
expand
our
more
of
our
programming
opportunities
to
get
Steve
Evans
and
its
residents
be
able
to
utilize
the
canal.
We
have
a
plan
to
also
partnership
with
that.
It
would
be
to
create
a
canoeing,
kayak
rental
program,
and
then
we
have
a
outline
to
provide
free,
continuing
opportunities
for
various
residents,
specifically
targeting
The
Haven
Middle
School
students
and
since
I
have
worked
at
the
Ecology
Center.
X
Something
I'm
very
familiar
with
is
the
end
of
school
Transit
from
Haven
across
Bridge
Street,
and
it's
an
opportunity
to
get
some
some
of
the
kids
in
town
who
might
not
have
the
opportunity
or
not
feel
like
they
have
a
chance
to
do
something.
That's
in
their
own
town,
be
able
to
get
them
to
that.
X
Y
Thank
you
all.
My
name
is
Laura
Biggs
I'm,
the
city
engineer,
so
the
Ecology
Center
has
undergone
a
number
of
utter.
Has
a
number
of
challenges
which
we've
talked
about
somewhat
previously.
Some
of
the
issues
that
we
have
with
the
building
really
stem
from
this
crawl
space.
The
crawl
space
is
not
insulated,
it's
very
shallow
and
it
has
a
dirt
floor.
So
I
should
start
off
by
saying
the
Ecology
Center,
as
we
talked
about,
was
built
in
expansion.
Y
Y
We
also
have
challenges
with
the
HVAC
and
electrical
system,
and
a
lot
of
this
just
stems
from
the
fact
that
the
oncology
center
is
50
years
old
and
has
been
well
used
in
its
life.
But
what
we're
finding
is
the
HVAC
electrical
equipment
is
really
at
the
end
of
its
useful
life.
It
now
that
we
have
had
it
evaluated,
it's
undersized.
It
doesn't
meet
the
design
loads
needed
for
heating
and
cooling.
It
also
does
not
connect
to
outside
air
for
ventilation.
Y
So
what
we
are
finding
in
a
lot
of
our
buildings
is
that
HVAC
units
that
met
the
standard,
20
or
30
years
ago
no
longer
meet
our
modern
building
code
requirements,
particularly
in
light
of
some
of
the
coveted
things
that's
particularly
concerning,
and
our
air
compressors.
Our
air
conditioning
compressors
here,
as
in
many
of
our
buildings,
are
using
refrigerants
that
have
either
been
phased
out
or
in
the
process
of
being
phased
out
by
the
federal
government.
Y
We
have
issues
in
the
offices,
they
are
crowded
and
do
not
really
have
any
Acoustic
sound
control,
and
so
it
makes
it
challenging
for
more
than
one
conversation
to
occur
at
a
time,
even
though
there
could
be
anywhere
from
two
to
ten
people
in
the
offices
at
a
time,
and
the
lobby
is
not
particularly
welcoming
you
sort
of
walk
in
there
isn't
like
a
space
where
you're
just
greeted
there's
no
seating
there
for
people
to
relax
or
sit
down.
This
has
become
more
of
an
issue,
as
we
understand
looking
at
Ada
and
age-related
mobility
issues.
Y
So
here
I
have
some
pictures
and
you
can
see
that
this
is
pictures
of
the
offices,
so
the
dividers
are
tend
towards
these
plastic
panels.
There
isn't
really
anything
to
stop
sound
from
ricocheting
around
if
this
picture
didn't
come
out,
particularly
large.
But
if
you
were
to
look
more
closely,
you
would
see
there
are
corrosion
stains
on
the
floor
from
all
of
the
appliances
when
they
put
in
this
cabinet.
Y
They
actually
put
in
a
counter
there's
no
floor
to
this
cabinet,
so
these
stuff
is
stored,
like
cleaning
supplies
and
stuff
just
directly
on
the
floor,
and
it's
just
all
been
cobbled
together
through
a
variety
of
expansions
and
trying
to
make
the
office
space
work
without
looking
at
it
really
holistically.
So
this
is
not
really
create
a
workable
space
for
our
current
staff.
Y
And
then,
finally,
as
our
consultant
has
looked
at
the
functionality
of
the
building,
there's
a
reason
or
one
of
the
things
that
we've
talked
about-
I'm-
sorry,
not
necessarily
the
consultant,
although
they've
made
recommendations,
but
just
generally
the
functionality
of
the
building
that
the
lack
of
ability
to
have
a
front
desk
that
has
a
line
of
sight
to
the
front
door
and
can
watch
people
coming
in
and
out
of
the
front
door
or
to
the
classroom
or
to
the
the
multi-purpose
room
behind
is
really
a
challenge
when
we
have
a
building
that
has
quite
a
lot
of
children's
programming,
sort
of
the
minimum
expectations
for
our
public
buildings
and
for
all
public
buildings.
Y
Is
that
there's
some
sort
of
Access
Control
that
happens
to
make
sure
that
it's
a
safe
place
for
both
children
and
adults
coming
in
as
well
as
our
staff?
This
is
right
behind
this
wall
is
where
a
person
is
sitting
at
their
desk,
and
this
picture
is
taken
from
standing
at
the
front
door.
So
you
can
see
that
there
is
no
eye
contact
with
the
person
at
the
front
desk.
This
is
the
Great
Hall.
The
there
is
a
customer
service
window.
That's
installed
right
here.
Y
Y
As
we
look
at
the
Ecology
Center
and
upgrading
it,
there
are
some
additional
things.
There's
some
minor,
exterior,
brick
repair,
that's
needed.
The
building
itself
doesn't
actually
comply
with
our
carp
goals,
as
they
were
adopted
in
2018,
most
specifically,
goals
that
we're
looking
at
for
all
of
our
buildings.
That
we're
doing
work
in
right
now
is
that
all
of
the
lighting
be
upgraded
to
100
LED
and
that
we
look
at
that
goal
for
carbon
neutral
operations
by
2035,
which
generally
means
that
we're
trying
to
remove
any
natural
gas
Connections.
Y
In
this
particular
case,
that
is
actually
a
relatively
simple
thing
to
do,
which
is
delightfully
refreshing
in
one
of
our
buildings.
This
building
is
not
Leed
certified,
which
is
not
surprising,
given
that
it's
been
a
while,
since
we've
done
any
major
work
in
the
building,
but
is
concerning
to
staff
as
they
feel
like
it
doesn't
really
align
with
the
Ecology
Center
Mission,
and
as
we've
learned
from
our
Ada
transition
plan,
there
are
ADA
compliance
issues
throughout
the
building
that
could
be
addressed.
Y
The
final
thing
that
I
will
say
is
we
had
planned
to
do
a
lot
of
this
other
stuff.
This
was
the
type
of
thing
that
it
was
just
time
to
go
in
and
do
an
update
to
the
Ecology
Center
and
while
somewhat
expensive,
it's
a
relatively
small
building,
and
that
was
probably
going
to
cost
us
around
half
a
million
or
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
adjust
all
of
those
things,
because
the
spaces
are
really
not
that
large.
Y
However,
what
we
discovered
in
March
facilities,
maintenance
staff,
was
doing
some
repair
work
that
the
flooring
and
the
mechanical
room
was
starting
to
fail.
It
was
very
spongy
and
you
could
see
it
was
rotting
away.
They
went
in
and
did
more
thorough
investigation
and
replaced
some
sections
on
a
temporary
basis,
but
realized
that
the
floor
joists
underneath
were
rotting
away.
Y
So,
as
we
then
looked
at
the
building
and
investigated,
it
was
pretty
clear
that
in
the
original
mechanical
room,
the
electrical
room,
which
also
serves
as
storage
and
the
offices
that
the
subfloor
system
that
supports
the
main
floor
is
warping
and
has
a
lot
of
deterioration
in
it.
We
brought
this
to
the
city
council.
They
approved
a
contract
with
hpzs,
a
consultant
to
who
is
an
Architecture
Firm
that
specializes
in
forensic
architecture
investigations,
but
also
does
quite
a
lot
of
stuff
with
sustainability
as
well,
and
so
they
were
a
good
fit
for
this
particular
project.
Y
This
is
actually
pictures
of
our
mechanical
room,
and
so
one
of
the
things
we
found
is
there's
a
mop
sink,
and
so
water
was
sort
of
leaching
out
of
this,
and
so
this
is
the
type
of
repair
that
facilities
has
done.
They've
taken
basic
plywood,
they've
torn
out
the
old
floor.
They
put
in
the
new
plywood
over
it
to
try
to
hold
it
together
until
we
can
come
in
and
do
a
permanent
structural
repair.
Y
Following
the
consultant's
investigation,
they
have
made
recommendations
for
proceeding
with
repair
and
what
those
include
is
basically
in
order
to
repair
a
large
subfloor
failure
when
in
a
crawl
space
that
has
really
very
tight
access
and
you
can
get
into
it
all
the
building
utilities
run
through
there.
You
have
to
remove
large
sections
of
the
flooring
and
this
impacted
spaces
once
they
do
that
they
can
get
into
the
crawl
space,
but
the
crawl
space
just
being
dirt
and
there's
no
Moisture
Control
in
any
way.
Y
On
the
crawl
space,
they
recommend
that
we
actually
lower
the
floor
of
the
crawl
space
by
digging
it
out
in
order
to
be
able
to
find
Space
to
improve
access,
but
also
to
put
in
a
vapor
barrier
to
start
trying
to
control
the
motion.
The
the
moisture
that's
entering
in.
They
recommend
that
we
put
drain
tile
around
the
interior
of
the
foundation
walls
to
collect
any
moisture.
That's
infiltrating
under
the
foundation
that
that
be
piped
to
a
sump
and
have
a
sump
pump
installed
so
that
it
can
be
removed.
Y
We
would
also
be
looking
at
putting
waterproofing
and
putting
insulation
along
the
foundation
walls,
so
the
goal
is
to
get
the
moisture
out
of
the
crawl
space
where
it
clearly
exists.
That
moisture
is
corroding
the
utilities
that
are
in
the
crawl
space.
It's
impacting
the
subfloor
system,
which
wasn't
really
designed
to
be
exposed
to
that
level
of
moisture
and
will
really
get
us
to
where
we
could
now
do
future
access
much
more
easily.
Y
So
with
that,
this
would
allow
us
again
to
repair
the
structural
floor
system
that
is
supporting
the
the
flooring
that
we
see.
It
would
allow
us
to
replace
all
of
the
corroded
utilities
and
there's
an
actually
there's
an
rpz
that
is
located
Below
in
the
crawl
space
and
the
access
to
it
is
just
outside
the
restrooms.
This
rpz
is
on
the
main,
the
main
water
service
coming
in,
which
feeds
the
irrigation
to
the
lad
Arboretum
and
the
there's
a
fountain,
where
the
little
bird
sanctuary
that
rpz
has
to
be
tested
on
an
annual
basis.
Y
Y
But
while
I
was
there,
we
will
modernize
the
LED
lighting
modernize,
the
lighting
to
LED
about
half
of
the
lighting
was
converted
six
seven
years
ago.
So
this
would
convert
the
remaining
interior
lighting.
We
would
convert
the
remaining
building
appliances
that
are
getting
natural
gas.
Two
of
the
furnaces
that
exist
would
already
have
to
be
removed
in
order
to
do
the
crawl
space
repairs.
So
this
would
be
cons,
converting
one
remaining
furnace
and
the
washing
washer
dryer
and
the
hot
water
heaters
in
the
building
and
then
there's
an
electric
panel.
Y
Y
They
actually
did
the
initial
pricing
and
added
FF
and
e
some.
There
are
Consulting
fees
as
we
move
forward,
we
the
staff,
so
they
came
up
with
2.3
million,
but
they
were
very
clear
that
they
did
not
include
owner
contingency
items.
We,
the
staff,
having
determined
that
we
would
need
to
provide
some
costs
for
moving,
we've
seen
a
high
level
of
construction
escalation,
and
we
believe
that
there
will
be
10
months
between
when
this
estimate
was
done
to
when
we
go
and
get
construction
pricing.
Y
So
we
feel
like
that
needs
to
be
updated
to
reflect
the
high
level
of
escalation
we've
been
seeing
and
owner
contingency
at
20
percent
is
to
account
for
when
you
start
going
into
a
building
like
this
and
digging
down
a
crawl
space
and
tearing
up
the
floor.
We
are
curious
as
to
what
could
happen
and
what
we
would
find.
We
think
that
we
need
a
fair
amount
of
wiggle
room
in
order
to
address
additional
issues
that
come
up
as
we
do
this
level
of
construction
on
a
building.
Y
However,
it
is
possible
because
the
extent
of
the
renovation
is
pretty
high,
we're
really
going
into
an
involved
change
to
some
of
the
building
operations
that
we
can
for
a
premium
also
do
enough
additional
work
to
do
lead
certification
on
this
building.
That
type
of
sustainability
goal
aligns
with
the
ecology
Center's
mission.
Y
If
this
building
were
larger,
if
it
were
over
ten
thousand
square
feet
that
we
were
renovating,
we
would
be
required
to
do
a
Leed
certification.
We
are
not
required
to
do
that
because
it
is
a
small
building
essentially
and
we're
not
renovating
the
entire
building.
However,
we
did
want
to
get
the
pricing
for
that
and
bring
it
forward
as
an
option.
If
the
city
council
is
interested
in
pursuing
that,
we
could
also
convert
the
building
to
be
fully
compliant
with
bird
friendly.
This
actually
has,
since
the
consultant
did
their
cost
estimate.
Y
Y
Y
This
is
something
that
we
separated
out,
because
we
do
feel
like
the
cost
of
the
project
has
skyrocketed.
Not
a
lot
of
the
items
that
are
that
are
included
in
the
base.
Scope
are
really
that
easy
to
separate
out
as
a
separate
cost.
An
example
of
that
would
be
if
you're
going
to
pull
up
the
floor
in
the
restrooms
and
you're
going
to
build
a
cabinet
for
the
rpz,
so
that
you
can
actually
do
a
fairly
simple
testing
and
monitoring
program
on
group.
Backflow
prevention
you're
pretty
much
renovating
the
restrooms
at
that
point
anyway.
Y
So
it
doesn't
really
make
sense
to
pull
the
renovation
of
the
restrooms
out
of
Base
scope
of
work,
and
that's
why
so
much
of
the
stuff
is
included
in
the
base
scope,
because
once
you're
tearing
up
the
floor
and
potentially
impacting
some
of
the
interior
walls,
as
you
do
that
you're
pretty
much
already
having
to
do
a
lot
of
work
to
put
everything
back
into
operation.
However,
the
customer
service
desk
could
be
done
at
a
later
date.
It
would
be
much
more.
It
would
probably
be
more
costly
to
do
it
in
the
future.
Y
We
could
do
this
for
an
additional
200
000,
so
that
takes
the
total
cost
of
the
project
to
around
3.4
million.
If
we
want
to
proceed
with
the
alternates,
so
our
next
steps
we're
bringing
this
to
the
council
tonight
because
we
did
want
to
provide
an
update
about
specifically
what's
going
on
at
the
center.
Y
If
the
council
approves
us,
we
will
move
forward
with
doing
the
design
once
we
have
an
understanding
of
the
full
scope
of
work
that
is
approved
by
and
authorized
by,
the
city
council
we'll
finalize
the
consultant
cost
proposal
they
had
originally
given
us
a
proposal
that
was
approved
at
145
thousand
dollars
to
do
a
much
smaller
building
Improvement
than
what
we
ended
up
with
once
they
completed
all
their
inspections.
Y
So
we
will
have
to
do
some
additional
Contracting
with
the
consultant
in
order
to
accommodate
the
additional
scope
of
work,
which
we
think
all
together
will
take
from
about
140
000
to
250
000.
But
we
will
finalize
that
once
we
get
guidance
from
the
city
council
and
we
have
budgeted
in
this
year,
1.5
million
dollars,
which
has
can
certainly
cover
the
consultant,
cost
and
the
beginning
of
construction.
Z
And
thank
you
Laura
I
hate
that
you
are
always
the
bearer
of
bad
financial
news
and
I
am
very
scared
about
the
next
time.
We
see
you
here
talking
about
some
other
building,
but
having
said
that,
thank
you
for
including
the
carp
compliance
as
part
of
the
basic
package.
I
think
that's
really
important
and
I
think
this
counts,
as
is
really
significant
environmental
progress.
So
thank
you,
I'm,
supportive
of
moving
ahead
with
Leed
certification,
it's
more
than
just
getting
a
a
certificate.
Z
I
think
going
through
the
process
requires
building
commissioning
some
energy
modeling
that
it
adds
value
more
than
just
more
than
just
marketing
value.
So
I'm
supportive
of
that
I
am
pleased
that
there
is
a
lower
cost
alternative
to
making
the
building
bird
friendly.
I.
Think
it's
important.
We
do
that.
Forty
thousand
dollars
to
put
some
stickers
on
some
windows
does
strike
me
as
high,
so
I'm
glad
that
there's
an
alternative
there
I
would
support
that.
Z
Looking
at
the
proposed
budget,
the
number
of
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
Furnishings
fixtures
and
equipment
strikes
me
as
kind
of
high
I.
Don't
really
have
a
point
of
comparison,
but
given
the
ecology,
Center's
Mission,
perhaps
there
is
an
opportunity
to
reuse
some
office
furniture
from
somewhere
else
in
town
and
you
know,
save
some
money
and
be
compliant
with
with
the
mission
of
of
that
building
and
of
of
the
city
with
our
carpet
objectives.
Z
So-
and
my
last
question
is
this:
is
where
is
the
money
going
to
come
from?
You
alluded
to
that
towards
the
end,
but
discussions
to
follow
I
suppose
what
are
your
initial
thoughts.
Y
Z
Y
AA
Good
evening
and
much
like
council
member
nusma
said
I'm,
so
sorry
that
you're,
the
one
that
they
put
in
front
of
us
to
have
to
deal
with
the
Wrath
some
we
keep
coming
back
to
issues
in
the
building
in
the
city
that
are
undergoing
massive
failures.
That
worry
me.
AA
AA
Because
do
we
have
1.5
for
this
alone
or
fire
department,
Civic
Center,
so
I'd
like
to
see
what
our
priorities
are,
so
that
we
can
make
a
decision
on
the
totality
of
the
disasters
of
our
buildings
before
we
commit
to
one
building,
and
maybe
we
have
and
I've
just
missed
it
I'm
dealing
with
a
migraine.
So
my
attention
and
my
patients
aren't
the
greatest
this
evening.
So
I
apologize
but
I'd
like
to
see
that
what
is
a
priority
fire
department
for
Police,
Department,
Civic
Center,
all
of
our
buildings.
W
You
all
right,
I'll,
say
Laura
that
if
there
has
to
be
a
bearer
of
bad
news,
I'm
glad
that
we
got
you
as
the
bearer
of
bad
news,
you
you
do
a
good
job
of
it
and
you
keep
us
informed.
So
I
appreciate
you
I'm
a
be
brief
here,
just
to
say
that
I
will.
Second,
my
the
call
again
that
this
just
highlights
a
structural
issue
in
the
way
that
we
Finance
facilities
here
and
I
would
really
like
to
explore
in
our
next
year's
budget.
W
Having
a
you
know,
a
facilities
maintenance
fee
that
is
charged
to
every
Department.
That
would
account
for
at
least
a
portion
of
similar
to
the
way
that
we
Finance
our
Fleet
Services,
where
every
Department
pitches
in
for
use
of
City
vehicles
I
think
we
need
to
do
the
same
thing
for
for
for
use
of
City
space,
just
to
make
sure
that
we
are
setting
aside
enough
money
every
year
to
finance
the
maintenance
of
our
buildings.
So
we
don't
get
in
these
predicaments.
W
Lastly,
I'll
say
that
you
know
I
also
highlight
that
some
of
the
issues
that
we
are
seeing
here
with,
whether
it
be
the
the
police
department
and
the
elevators
or
whether
it
be
the
strange
crawl
space
here
under
the
old
building
I
just
want
to
highlight
that
I
I
think
we
need
to
be
careful
about
I'm
sure
that
when
these
decisions
were
made,
there's
likely
some
value
engineering
component
to
that
where
they
determine
hey.
W
Sometimes
it
it
makes
sense
in
the
long
run
not
to
cut
Corners
and
to
spend
the
money
that
we
need
up
front,
whether
it
be
on
our
carp
goals
or
just
good
engineering.
We
need
to
spend
the
money
up
front
in
order
to
avoid
pitfalls
like
this
or
to
place
the
voice.
This
burden
on
the
next
generation
of
evanstonians,
so
I
will
also
encourage
us
to
adopt
a
a
mentality
that
we
should
build
things
right.
The
first
time
so.
V
W
AB
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Human
speaks
I,
I
love
the
Ecology
Center,
it's
a
beautiful
Center,
and
so
you
know
I'm
interested
in
doing
what
we
have
to
do
to
improve
it
and
maintain
it
and
upgrade
it
I'm
slightly
concerned
about
the
consulting
fee.
I
think
it
was
145
000
last
year
and
now
an
additional
potentially
200
plus
just
seems
like
large
numbers
for
this
project,
but
so
that
concerns
me
a
little
bit.
I
I
also
wonder.
AB
Is
there
and
I
guess
I'd
like
to
see
just
the
prioritization,
also
just
within
the
Ecology
Center
of
the
most
needed
areas
for
repair
and
I?
Think
you
mentioned
like
the
crawl
space,
but
I
guess
just
you
know
what
has
to
be
done
immediately?
What
can
we
put
off
and
then
is
there
also
could
the
parks
and
rec
boards,
since
those
are
folks
who
are
dedicated
to
really
just
focusing
and
spending
lots
of
time,
just
thinking
about
Parks
and
Rec
Wars,
you
know
we're
juggling
a
lot
of
items.
AB
I
mean
it
seems
to
me,
since
it's
Parks
and
Rec,
that
it
would
be,
you
know,
helpful,
to
have
a
body
that's
committed
just
to
Parks
and
Rec,
to
discuss
this
debate.
This
roll
up
their
sleeves
put
in
the
time
to
contemplate
what
Aries
to
work
on
First
and
you
know
or
if
or
it
just
seems
like
to
me,
I'd
like
to
tap
into
that
the
resource
of
our
bcc's
when
possible.
Y
Y
For
example,
like
we
will
tear
up
most
of
the
floor
in
the
offices,
all
of
the
stuff
in
the
offices
will
have
to
be
taken
apart
and
moved
out.
So
at
this
point
there
is
a
strong
benefit
to
reorganizing
the
offices
and
fixing
the
problems
that
exist
in
the
offices,
because
we
may
even
I
mean
the
walls.
Some
of
the
interior
walls
are
built
on
top
of
the
structural
subfloor,
and
some
of
those
walls
may
even
be
coming
down.
Y
Y
AB
Y
AB
Okay,
thank
you,
I
guess
I'm,
just
trying
to
understand
when
thank
you
for
that
explanation,
when
we
do
have
large
expenditures
or
projected
expenditures
for
like
Parks
and
Rec
or
in
other
areas
like
when
we
bring
it
before
those
boards
commissions
or
committees,
to
discuss
and
hash
out
a
little
bit
there
first,
so
I
guess
in
this
case
this
would
not
be
one
of
those
cases,
but
I
think
sometimes
we
do
right
when
there's
expenditures
just
trying
to
understand
a
little
bit
more.
AB
I
To
me
to
me,
this
ask
feels
a
little
different
than
police
fire
City,
because
it
sounds
like
at
least
with
this
facility.
We
know
we
want
to
be
in
this
location
like
we
want
the
Ecology
Center
here.
I
Do
we
CIP?
Do
we
reserve
you
know
pay
for
it
out
of
the
reserve
funds?
You
know
honestly
I
feel
like
that's
the
only
thing
we
should
be
considering
at
this
point,
unless
people
feel
people
feel
uncertain
about
some
of
the
costs
we're
getting
back
from.
You
know,
bids
Etc,
but
I
mean
it's
the
building
that
we
need
to
maintain.
I
So
it's
a
an
easy
yes
for
me,
I,
don't
necessarily
think
we
need
to
hold
it
up
for
it
to
go
to
Parks,
but
as
I've
suggested
before
I
think
any
issue
councilman
Reed
has
done
this
as
a
recently
can
go
to
park
ship
right
like
it
doesn't
we
don't
always
have
to
slow
things
completely
down
for
you
know
another
committee
to
weigh
in
they
can
discuss
it
and
you
know,
and
and
bring
back
their
thoughts
to
the
to
the
full
body,
and
that's
all
thank
you.
AC
AC
I
would
love
to
see
some
modeling
around
our
energy
costs
in
our
current
buildings
and
see
like
what
potential
savings
we
could.
We
could
have
going
forward.
I
think
that
would
help
in
our
discussions
with
residents
when
they
ask
us
like.
Oh,
why
did
you
go
to
lead
gold?
You
know
why
didn't
you
just
fix
the
building
it'd
be
great
to
have
some
numbers
to
show
that
you
know
as
energy
costs
grow
in
the
future.
This
is
you
know.
AC
The
potential
savings
I
think
it'd
be
just
smart
to
show
them
that
Financial
paperwork
so.
AD
Well,
I
I.
Excuse
me,
Echo.
The
comments
of
a
lot
of
my
colleagues
certainly
support
the
the
carp
related.
AD
AD
Basically,
it
is
up
to
us
to
maintain
our
properties
and
assuming,
oh
and
I
and
I
do
think
it
makes
sense
to
just
get
it
all
over
with
do
it
all
at
once,
because
I
think
you
know
with
their
cost
savings
by
by
doing
it
in
in
one
great
big
painful
project
and
the
longer
we
wait
for
some
parts
of
it.
The
the
more
the
more
costly
it'll
be
in
the
future
for
those
parts
that
we
postpone
so
I'm
supportive
of
biting
the
bullet
and
going
ahead.
A
W
You
I
I
do
not
support
this,
go
on
the
parks
and
rec
I
I
think
we
almost
need
a
given.
W
What
we've
been
seeing
recently
with
our
infrastructure,
our
facilities
and
their
lack
of
Maintenance
I
almost
think
we
need
a
committee,
that's
dedicated
to
that,
and
you
know
we
sent,
for
example,
the
the
item
about
charging
for
parking
at
these
facilities
to
the
parks
and
rec
board.
They
said
no,
that's
going
to
come
back
before
this
Council
and
I
mentioned
this,
because.
B
W
Have
to
figure
out
how
we're
going
to
pay
for
this
stuff
in
the
long
term,
and
it's
one
thing
to
say:
you
know,
as
the
comment
was
made
earlier
previously
about
the
other
proposal
that
you
know
charging
Grandma
to
come.
You
know,
watch
someone's
game
or
go
to
the
College
Center
to
park
there.
W
Well,
what
about
Grandma
or
Grandpa
not
being
able
to
get
into
the
building,
because
it's
not
Ada
accessible
or
you
know
a
deteriorating
building
or
staff
having
to
work
in
a
deteriorating
building,
so
I
think
we
really
have
to
especially
seeing
the
sentiment
here
is
that
we
are
going
to
and
I
support
it.
We
need
to
maintain
our
assets,
our
liabilities
and.
W
I
was
the
only
person
to
support
infrastructure
is
one
of
our
top
goals
when
we
were,
as
we
continue
to
go
through
our
goal,
planning
process
our
goal,
prioritization
process,
I
think
this
has
to
be
a
wake-up
call
for
us
over
the
last
few
weeks
that
we
need
to
get
infrastructure
on
that
list
and
it's
clearly
becoming
a
priority
for
the
last
two
years
of
this
term
and
I
think
we
really
need
to
dig
in
on
how
we're
going
to
fund
this
and
moving
forward
and
and
how
we
can
avoid
this
moving
forward.
A
Z
A
AB
So
I
think
I
asked
about
this
last
time,
just
a
little
bit
of
clarification
on
a
special
order
of
business.
So
this
special
order
business.
That
says
that
refers
to
a
doc
item
that
did
not
originate
in
any
committee
or
subcommittee
and
I
thought
in
January,
the
Housing
and
Community
Development
Committee
voted
to
approve
four
million
dollars
for
the
this
affordable
housing
development.
So
how
so
it's
been
in
committee
and
our
I'm
just
wondering
how
we
how
this
can
become
a
special
order
of
business,
given
that
it
did
originate
in
a
committee.
A
Well,
you
and
I
have
a
difference
of
opinion
about
the
interpretation
of
that
rule,
but
I
I
do
want
to
follow
up
on
your
question,
and
maybe
director
flax
can
speak
to
this,
because
my
my
understanding
is
that
the
aspects
is
that
the
there's
three
different
funding
sources
and
I
didn't
understand
that
all
three
had
been
recommended
by
the
Housing
and
Community
Development
Committee.
Is
that
in
fact,
the
case.
AE
Good
evening
Sarah
flax,
community
development
director,
the
Housing
and
Community
Development
committee
looked
at
the
different
sources
of
funding
needed
for
different
purposes,
and
we
were
really
trying
to
balance
how
to
best
use
arpa
and
other
funding
combined.
AB
Well,
I
mean
Evan.
The
Community
Development
Committee
voted
to
recommend
a
council
approval
of
four
million
dollars
in
City
funds
for
this,
and
that's
what
we're
doing
here
with
a
special
order.
So
this
very
much
did
originate
in
committee
I'm,
just
because
18.11
says
a
special
or
business
refers
to
a
die-cut
item
that
did
not
originate.
I
mean
it's
for
like
emergency,
something
comes
up,
but
we
don't
have
time
so
I'm
just
trying
to
understand.
If
that's
our
rule,
how?
What
is
the
justification
for
making?
How
do
you
get
around
that?
For
this.
A
I
I
wouldn't
characterize
myself
as
getting
around
anything
and
I
do
want
to
reiterate,
I
think,
there's
a
sort
of
implication
that
there's
some
kind
of
underlying
objective
here,
that's
being
Advanced.
By
making
this
special
order
of
business,
that
is
not
the
case
and
the
impact
of
it
being
a
special
order
of
business
is
I
would
say
negligible.
A
But
my
interpretation
of
that
rule
is
that
there's
two
ways
for
something
to
get
on
an
agenda.
One
is
going
through
the
committee
process
and
one
is
being
a
special
order
of
business
and
it
is
possible
and
likely
and
normal
that
a
special
order
business
will
have
overlap
with
or
similarity
to
something.
That's
come
out
of
committee
that
doesn't
prevent
it
from
from
existing,
but.
D
A
AB
Well,
I
mean
it's
a
way
to
to
push
something
through
more
quickly.
That's
what
special
orders
are
for,
so
it
doesn't
get
bogged
down
in
committees
and
you
know
the
bridge
collapses.
We
need
to
allocate
funding,
and
so
so
there's
just
you
know,
I'm
not
sure.
So
it
seems
like
this
is
because
there's
a
rush
or
not
I
mean
are
you
is
this?
Is
there
a
rush
or.
A
Well,
I
won't
I,
don't
personally
feel
any
sense
of
Russia,
maybe
others
up
here
or
or
who
want
to
come
to.
The
diocese
can
speak
to
that.
But
and
again
I
would
adjust
to
focus
on
the
substance,
but
is
there
a
Committee
hearing
that
you
think
was
skipped
because
the
special
order
of
business
is
on
the
agenda
like
what's
the
problem,
the.
AB
Problem
is
being
rushed,
so
we
know
like
if
there's
questions
about
it,
it
can't
be
held.
For
example,
if
you
have
questions
that
you
want
answered,
one
can't
hold
a
special
order
business.
It
is
a
means
of
fast
forwarding,
an
item
and
so
in,
and
our
rule
says
that
it
can't
a
special
or
business
can
originate
in
any
committee
or
subcommittee,
so
I'm,
just
just
trying
to
follow
rules
and
and
understand
if
we
are
following
our,
we
aren't
following.
A
A
The
the
last
time
we
had
this
discussion,
I
thought.
The
concern
was
that
some
felt
that
the
creation
of
a
special
order
of
business
resulted
in
a
committee
being
skipped
which,
at
the
time,
I
thought
was
actually
a
good
argument
for
that
with
this
item.
What
you're
saying
is
that
it's
already
been
to
committee,
so
nothing
is
being
skipped.
A
AB
So
why
not
just
for
introduction
I
I,
don't
know,
perhaps
sir
Cummings
can
elaborate
how
this
jives
with
so
again.
We
know
that
everyone
knows
that
tabling
is
much
more
difficult
than
holding.
If
you
have
a
question,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
following
the
rules
and
again
because
otherwise
this
switch
should
just
be
for
introduction
and
I
mean.
Does
this
come?
Does
this
comply
with
18.11.
A
A
Yes,
it
would
not
be
on
for
introduction
under
anything.
The
only
thing
it
could
be
is
it
could
be
I
guess
perhaps
if
we
wanted
to
like
stretch
the
interpretation
of
what
hcdc
did,
it
could
have
been
labeled
hcdc,
one,
the
effect
of
which
would
have
been
one
difference
and
one
difference
only,
which
is
that
it
could
have
been
held
as
well
as
tables.
But
but
again
this
wasn't
precisely
what
came
out
at
hcdc
and
I.
A
Think
as
director
flash
pointed
out,
the
practice
with
the
arpa
allocations
has
typically
been
for
them
to
be
special
orders
of
business,
because
it's
really
a
active
Council,
that's
being
evacuated,
but
anyway,
sorry
Mr
Cummings.
Do
you
want
to
speak
to
the
question
of
rule
18
point
whatever
it
is
I.
AF
Was
just
also
going
to
point
out,
in
addition
to
the
items
first
of
all,
I'm
sorry,
Nicholas,
Cummings,
Corporation,
Council
good
evening,
mayor
member
city,
council,
City,
major
Stowe
clerk
Mendoza,
in
addition
to
the
items
that
you
pointed
out,
mayor
biss,
the
Housing
and
Community
Development
Committee
is
actually
a
board
commission
and
committee.
AF
It
is
not
a
council,
a
committee
of
the
council
or
subcommittee,
so
in
addition
to
that,
it
would
not
necessarily,
under
the
letter
of
18.11,
be
be
an
issue
in
terms
of
being
a
special
order
business,
but
that
would
be
the
only
thing.
I
would
add
to
anything
else.
That
you've
already
said:
I'm
concur
with
what
you've
already
discussed.
AF
The
Housing
and
Community
Development
Committee
from
my
understanding
is
a
is
a
board
commissioning
committee
that
actually
includes
a
mixture
of
members
from
not
under
not
mistaken,
and
not
just
members
of
city,
council
or
subcommittees
of
the
standing
committees
of
City
Council.
AB
A
AB
Though
it
isn't
all
arpa
money
right,
it's
a
configuration,
a
funding
but
okay
anyway,
I
think
we've
just
seen
a
lot
of
special
orders
of
business
and
and
I
think
it
it
is,
you
know.
Sometimes
it
reduces
the
amount
of
participation
or
questioning
or
really
vetting
items,
I
think
as
thoroughly
as
some
people
might
want,
but
I'm
done.
Thank
you.
W
Actually,
I
was
going
to
make
the
point
that
Council
Cummings
made
about
this,
although
approaching
it
from
a
slightly
different
angle,
but
the
point
has
been
made.
I
will
ask
if
there
is
a
substantive
concern,
I'm
willing
to
hear
a
motion
a
table,
otherwise
I
did
I
serve
on
the
hcdc
committee.
W
It
went
through
committee,
we
held
I,
don't
know
how
many
meetings
discussing
this
several
discussing
the
funding,
I,
certainly
council,
member
I,
think
I
mean
I.
Think
every
question
has
been
answered.
I'm
supportive
of
this
I
think
this
makes
sense.
We
need
affordable
housing
in
our
city.
The
city
needs
to
put
up
money
to
make
that
happen.
We
can't
I
mean.
Certainly
some
of
this
is
federal
money,
but
we
can't
just
rely
on
the
federal
government
or
wait
for
some
magic
to
happen.
W
AE
We
have
a
little
over
that
would
actually
put
the
balance
of
the
affordable
housing
fund
substantially
lower.
We
don't
have
a
good
way
of
replenishing
that
right
now,
the
demolition
tax
doesn't
get
us
a
whole
lot
of
replenishment,
and
that
would
really
leave
us
without
much
in
the
way
of
other
funding.
AE
You
know,
other
you
know
for
affordable
housing,
because
our
home
funds
have
gone
substantially
down
too
originally,
as
you
may
remember,
from
our
discussion
some
months
ago,
I
think
it
was
our
March
13th
discussion
where
we
talked
about
funding
using
a
million
five
for
the
of
arpa
for
this
project.
AE
It
was
actually
by
using
that
it
was
reducing
the
amount
of
money
that
was
coming
out
of
the
Tiff,
because
originally
there
had
been
potentially
even
more
money
coming
out
of
the
Tiff
and
an
interesting
thing
that
council
member
nuzma
pointed
out
is
that,
because
this
is
new
development
in
the
Tiff,
the
tax
revenue
from
it,
it
does
pay
property.
Taxes
will
actually
go
back
into
the
Tiff
and
expand
the
Tiff.
AA
AA
Yeah
I
just
struggle
with
that,
because
there's
some
work
in
a
lot
of
the
Tiff
money
has
gone
into
the
Fifth
Ward
love
my
Fifth
Ward,
born
and
raised
in
the
Fifth
Ward,
but
I
do
have
things
that
I
need
to
do
and
that
my
residents
expect
me
to
advocate
for
and
I
want
to
be
just
very
transparent
about
that.
AE
AE
And
we
have
a
number
of
things
like
the
wait
list
and
MTO
and
those
things
that
are
paid
out
of
the
affordable
housing
fund
on
a
regular
basis
and
our
annual
income
right
now
is
the
125
000
that
comes
from
the
Mather
for
the
pathway
underneath
the
Davis
Street
and
then
whatever
we
get
in
the
way
of
demolition
taxes,
which
is
generally
less
than
a
hundred
thousand,
so
it
it
really.
AE
We've
been
advocating
and
we're
actually
looking
for
other
ways
to
increase
that
and
get
a
regular
income
stream,
but
I'm
a
little
bit
uncomfortable
with
it
right
now.
One
of
the
things
is
we
have
also
because
most
of
the
money
won't
be
actually
used
until
2024
is
and
when
most
of
the
money
would
be
used.
We
could
look
at
doing
something
like
we
did
with
the
Evergreen
funding
for
the
Anne
Rainey
Apartments,
where
we
actually
said
at
that
point.
AE
We
didn't
know
if
we
would
get
enough
home
funds
to
make
up
our
half
a
million,
and
so
we
had
this
very
complicated
agreement
that
Nick
Cummings
developed.
That
said,
we
would
have
no
less
than
350
000
from
home
and
up
to
500
000
and
then
the
affordable
housing
Fund
in
that
case
picked
up
the
slack.
AE
AA
AE
Z
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
director,
flax
addressed
one
of
my
questions
regarding
the
property
tax.
So
thank
you
Sarah
for
doing
that.
I'd
also
like
to
make
the
point
that
this
building
will
be
fully
carp
compliant,
and
you
know,
per
previous
correspondence
with
staff
on
this
issue.
The
building
will
be
all
electric
and
we'll
have
solar
panels,
so
we
can
regard
the
city's
investment
in
part
as
an
investment
in
our
carp
objectives.
Z
So
where
do
we
come
up
with
the
4
million?
You
know
some
of
that's
from
the
West
Evanston
Tiff,
some
of
that's
from
arpa,
some
of
that's
from
the
affordable
housing
fund.
The
ask
here
is
for
a
million
and
a
half
from
arpa,
which
would
leave
us
with
only
just
over
two
million
dollars
in
our
arpa
fund,
with
more
than
two
million
dollars
worth
of
requests
pending.
So
we
would
have
to
make
some
difficult
decisions,
and
maybe
this
is
this-
is
one
of
them
we
can't
do.
Z
We
can't
afford
to
do
everything
that
we
want
to
do
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
support
this,
given
the
fact
that
affordable
housing
is
one
of
this
city
council's
primary
goals
and
given
the
fact
that
the
building
will
be
carb
compliant
all
electric
with
solar
panels,
our
money's
going
to
a
good
cause
in
that
regard,
as
well
as
the
affordable
housing.
Thank
you.
AD
AD
As
I
recall,
we
did
have
I
mean
we
did
have
quite
a
bit
of
discussion
in
the
Housing
and
Community
Development
Committee
about
what
kind
of
funding
we
could
provide
for
for
the
project
and
as
I
recall,
it
was
a
pretty
important
discussion
in
terms
of
hodc's
application,
then
for
a
low-income
housing,
tax,
credit,
I
I,
don't
know
if
Sarah,
if
that's
anything,
to
shed
any
more
light
on.
AE
Yeah
well
having
the
financing.
It's
called
the
soft
financing,
because
it's
the
stuff
that
you
know
is
very
important.
It's
part
of
the
pro
forma
and
without
it
they're
not
going
to
be
able
to
move
forward.
I
would
be
willing
to
really
take
a
look
at
our
home
funding.
We
were
trying
to
avoid
putting
in
too
many
multiple
sources,
but
home
can
also
be
layered
in
I.
Don't
know
that
we
can
get
to
half
a
million
with
what
we
have
available.
They've
been
cutting
our
home.
AE
Our
home
went
down
from
a
great
big
380
000
a
year
to
about
335
000
a
year,
so
we're
really
not
and
it
isn't
all
available
for
any
one
thing.
15
gets
set
aside
for
Toto,
but
hodc
is
a
choto,
so
we
could
probably
use
chodo.
Reserve
I
mean
I.
I
would
be
willing
to
really
look
at
that
and
see.
If
how
much
we
could
reduce
the
the
chip
funding,
but
I
can't
give
you
that
right
off
the
top
of
my
head.
Without
going
back
and
looking
at
the
what's
available.
Okay.
AE
The
question
that
we
have
is
when
we
have
availability
of
our
home,
for
example,
we're
almost
halfway
through
fiscal
year
2023,
and
we
don't
have
access
to
our
grant
funding,
we'll
get
it
sometime
in
later
this
year.
But
we
do
have
some
home
from
2022
and
we
will
have
some
from
2023
we're
trying
to
balance
between
funding,
tibra
and
a
bricks
and
sticks
project.
What
normally
we've
done
with
home
is
try
to
do
a
smaller
project
with
one
of
our
chotos,
but
we
could
certainly
look
at
yeah
using
some
home
for
this.
AE
For
the
Tiff
money
right,
okay,
but
one
of
the
challenges
is
I
just
have
to
also
make
sure
that
some
of
that
money
is
in
non-housing,
that's
the
million
and
a
half
is
not
for
direct
housing
and
home
has
to
be
direct
housing.
However,
it
can
be
site
preparation,
which
is
one
of
the
things
that
was
going
to
be
about
that
we
were
going
to
use.
So
that's
the
other
balancing
thing.
It
can't
do
certain
funding.
AD
Okay,
great
well
I,
think
council,
member
Reed
might
be
having
a
an
amendment
to
kind
of
reflect
some
of
this
discussions.
Okay,
so
I
would
just
also
add
going
back
to
the
dead
horse
of
special
orders
of
business.
I
think
I
think
we
give
because
it's
a
special
order
of
business.
We
end
up
spending
a
lot
more
time
than
we
would
if
it
were
buried
down
on
the
on
the
council
agenda.
So
anyway,
just
an
interesting
point.
A
At
this
time,
no
one
is
requesting
to
speak
for
the
first
time.
So
we
go
back
to
council
member
Reed
with
four
minutes
and
10
seconds
left.
W
Hearing
the
discussion,
I
I
just
sent
an
amendment
to
item
SP2
to
folks
what
you
would
just
domain
the
language
to
up
to
so
that
gives
staff
I
believe
the
flexibility
they
need
to
figure
things
out
down
the
road
while
still
funding
this
tonight,
and
maybe
that's
enough
to
get
nope
get
our
colleague
to
a
yes
on
this.
That
was
my
goal.
W
I
was
trying
to
get
us
to
a
yes,
but
if
that
doesn't
it
we're
still
maybe
in
a
better
place,
and
we
can
still
achieve
at
least
part
of
the
goal
with
this
amendment,
hopefully
so
I
move
that
we
adopt
the
amendment
that
I
stood
for
sent
forth
to
council,
which
would
use
up
to
1.5
million
in
West,
Evans
and
Tiff
up
to
1.5
million
in
arpa
and
then
up
to
one
million
exactly
what
it
is,
but
using
up
to
one
million
in
affordable
housing
fund.
A
Council
member
Reed
moves
to
amend
SP2
to
transform
those
three
numbers
currently
set
forth
as
ceilings
up
rather
than
exact
numbers
councilmember
Ravel
seconds.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
the
amendment
council,
member
Burns,
yeah.
I
I
mean
it
is
what
I
heard
is
probably
250
out
of
affordable
housing
I,
don't
know
how
you
feel
about
250
out
of
home,
but
if
we
can
get
to
half
a
million
tonight
out
of
both
I,
don't
know
why
we,
wouldn't
you
know
we
probably
could
make
an
amendment.
AE
What
I
need
to
look
at,
though,
is
how
much
you
know
really
what
the
million
and
a
half
how
much
is
stuff.
That
is,
because
that's
for
the
non-housing
components,
although
some
of
the
site
prep,
is
obviously
works
for
both
I
just
have
to
make
sure
that
I'm
not
committing
all
housing
money
when
I
can't
so.
D
I
AA
AA
I,
don't
want
to
put
you
further
in
that
place,
but
to
protect
the
Integrity
of
what
I'm
here
to
do,
which
is
for
the
second
ward,
is
to
make
sure
that
I
get
a
commitment
that
we
can
get,
that
down
to
1
million
again
I
believe
in
affordable
housing,
but
I
also
believe
in
making
sure
everybody
gets
a
piece
of
the
pie.
So
if
you
can
get
that
to
us
in
two
weeks,
so.
A
I
I
That
would
be
great
if
we
could
do
that
and
if
it's
half
a
million,
if
if
we
can
get
it
up
out
of
there
out
of
the
home
and
affordable
housing,
I
feel
like
those
numbers
are
low
enough.
I
used
to
track
both
of
those
accounts
pretty
closely,
but
if
those
numbers
are
low
enough,
let's
just
do
it
and
move
forward.
AE
How
about
if
I
want
to
double
check
on
some
of
the
things
we're
paying
for
before
can
I
just
come
back
before
the
end
of
the
meeting.
I
would
like
to
talk
to
Richard
King
and
just
make
sure
that
I
am
aware
of
what
funding
we're.
Looking
at.
You
know
what
aspects
we're
funding,
because
some
of
them
were
tip
eligible,
but
they
weren't
necessarily
all
of
our
affordable
housing
fund
or
home
eligible.
So
I
just
have
to
make
sure
that
I'm
not
committing
is
that
okay,
so.
A
AE
AF
So
the
motion
table
would
supersede
until
the
end
of
the
meeting
the
motion
on
the
table
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
with
supersede
all
those
emotions.
W
Move
that
we
table
this
item
that
we
place
this
item
on
the
table.
A
Councilmember
Reed
moves
to
this
item
be
tabled
until
the
rest
of
the
items
on
the
tonight's
agenda
have
been
dispensed
with
council
member
nusma
seconds.
Is
there
any
discussion
seen
done
with
the
clerk?
Please
take
the
role.
C
A
A
Okay,
will
you.
G
A
A
Well,
for
reasons
I
don't
fully
understand,
but
the
legal
department
has
indicated
that
P3
is
is
not
taken
off
off
the
agenda
notwithstanding
what
occur
at
planning
and
development
this
evening,
so
that
piece
of
information
in
mind
do
folks
want
to
remove
anything
from
the
consent
agenda.
This
evening.
AB
A
Is
there
anything
else
to
be
removed
from
the
consent
agenda?
In
addition
to
those
items.
A
A
With
seven
voting
in
favor
and
none
voting
against
the
motion
carries
and
the
consent
agenda,
with
the
exception
of
those
six
items,
is
approved
continuing
in
the
spirit
of
doing
everything
in
a
funny
order.
I,
if
I'm
reading
the
room
right,
the
people
who
are
still
here
who
are
not
here
for
SP2
I
think
are
mostly
here
for
item
hs1.
So
why
don't
we
take
that
up?
First,
is
there.
A
Council
member
Reed
news
passage
of
ordinance,
57-0-23
council
member
Revell
seconds.
Is
there
any
discussion
council
member
nusma?
Thank.
Z
You
Mr
Mayor
I,
am
fully
in
support
of
of
this
ordinance.
Since
this
committee
met
two
weeks
ago,
there
have
been
30
mass
shootings
in
the
United
States,
resulting
in
29
deaths
and
159
additional
injuries.
That's
just
for
mass
shootings
that
doesn't
count
one-off
shootings
that
doesn't
count
accidental
shootings.
Z
We
are
doing
something
seriously
wrong
in
this
country
with
these
with
numbers
like
this,
it's
it's
insane.
It's
shameful
and
I'm
glad
that
we
can
do
at
least
a
small
part
here
in
the
City
of
Evanston
to
address
this
issue,
which
goes
well
beyond
our
borders
and
well
beyond
our
purview
on
the
city
council,
but
I
am
100
behind
this.
Thank
you.
A
A
A
On
a
personal
note,
I
want
to
thank
not
only
the
council
for
their
support
of
this,
but
thank
The
Advocates
not
only
for
their
support
of
this
measure,
but
for
their
continued
creativity
and
pressure,
which
is
going
to
be
important
because,
unfortunately,
this
vote
tonight
as
council
member
newsman
indicated,
is
not
going
to
put
this
issue
to
bed.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Z
Barrel
move
approval
of
purchase
of
one
2023
Nissan
Rogue
for
the
parking
enforcement
division
of
the
administrative
Services
Department.
W
Well,
someone
else
pulled
it
off,
I
think
councilman
or
councilmember
Kelly
pulled
it
off.
I'll
go
after.
AB
So
I'm
not
opposing
this
I
just
thought.
Maybe
an
explanation-
and
it
is
slightly
addressed
in
here
where
it
talks
about
the
the
city
continuing
with
the
implementation
of
the
city's
climate
action
resilience
plan
that
we're
striving,
when
applicable
and
available
to
replace
existing
vehicles
with
electric
vehicles.
I
thought
just
to
respond
to
public
comment.
Maybe
an
explanation
a
little
bit
more
about
why
we
are
not
able
to
do.
V
W
If
you
don't
mind,
yeah,
I
I
had
this
question
in
response
or
I
think
maybe
someone
else
brought
it
up
in
a
response
to
public
comment,
but
I
certainly
dug
into
it,
and
we
identified
that
the
barriers
to
meeting
that
carp
goal
to
purchasing
an
electric
vehicle
were
one
our
infrastructure
and
the
lack
of
EV
charging
station
for
our
Municipal
fleet
vehicles.
We
identified
that
as
a
pain
point
that
this
Council
needs
to
invest
in
in
expanding
that
infrastructure.
W
Another
was
just
availability
of
these
vehicles
on
the
market
from
what
was
explained
by
Mr
cholik
is
that
the
city,
the
municipality,
is
having
a
difficult
time,
locating
electric
vehicles
of
this
sort,
and
we
don't
have
any
currently
in
our
Fleet
and
then
lastly,
I
I
question
this
one
the
most,
but
it
was
cost
cost
of
the
electric
vehicles
being
more
than
other
vehicles.
W
But
I
do
believe
that
if
we
were
to
cost
this
out
in
the
long
term,
the
fuel
savings
and
the
maintenance
savings
would
make
that
cost
that
initial
upfront
payment
worthwhile
in
the
long
term.
So
those
were
the
barriers
and
Mike.
What
I
wanted
to
say
is
a
call
to
all
of
us
to
make
sure
that
we
are
reducing
those
barriers
as
much
as
possible.
We
have
the
ability
to
which
I
think
in
our
2024
budget.
W
Certainly,
there
has
to
be
a
spot
to
expand
our
EV
charging
stations
for
the
municipality,
and,
if
we
don't,
then
we
just
will
continue
to
fall
behind
and
will
not
be
able
to
expand
our
electric
vehicle
Fleet.
Thank
you.
AC
A
With
six
voting
in
favor
and
non-voting
against,
the
motion
carries
and
the
purchase
is
approved,
I
messed
up
in
asking
council
member
USA
to
make
that
motion
you're
chairing
pnd.
So
sorry,
let
me
get.
A
Z
AB
A
Councilmember
news
makes
the
substitute
motion
second
moving
passage
of
both
resolution,
22-r-23
and
Ordnance
51-0-23
council
member
Reed
seconds.
So
now
now
both
of
those
items
are
before
the
council
simultaneously
council,
member
Kelly.
AB
Thank
you
so
my
concern
this
evening
is
I'd
like
to
have
these
held.
I
was
just
interested
in
holding
P4,
but
it
didn't
really
make
sense
if
the
subdivision,
we
couldn't
really
pass
the
subdivision
without
without
turning
over
the
prop
the
public
property.
So
I'd
like
to
hold
both
of
these
items
that
I'm
speaking
this
evening,
really
as
an
advocate
of
the
tenants
of
the
Claridge
and
and
for
the
surrounding
neighbors,
as
well
mostly
from
council
member,
wins
Ward.
So
this
is
really
our
opportunity
to
get
this
right.
AB
But
we're
not
quite
there
and-
and
it's
just
so
important
and
if
Melissa,
when
we're
here,
she
would
speak
to
this.
Also,
we
did
have
a
good
exchange.
The
neighbors
we
all
talked
about
what
we
needed
to
see
happen
explicitly
and
specifically,
to
really
be
able
to
ensure
meaningful
improvements,
a
committed,
meaningful
Improvement,
so
we
did
have
an
exchange
and
there
and
there
was
some
commitment,
but
it
was
so.
AB
This
is
good,
so
we
are
moving
the
right
direction,
but
but
the
proposals
were
still
somewhat
vague:
the
residents
myself
councilmember
Nguyen
to
break
the
patterns
of
drug
dealing,
the
building
and
around
the
building.
We
really
need
to
see
round-the-clock
supervision
security
for
a
couple
months
and
after
that
you
know,
limited
supervision,
8
to
12
hours
a
day
that
could
be
Revisited
on
an
annual
basis
or
maybe
six
months,
where
we're
open
to
discuss
that.
AB
In
a
resp
in
an
email
that
I
sent
back
to
executive
director,
Mr
Koenig,
as
well
as
to
the
chair
bill
scholten
with
explicits,
but
again,
those
include
round-the-clock
supervision
for
at
least
a
couple
months
again,
just
to
break
the
very,
very
serious
patterns
that
have
been
going
on
there
for
years
now
for
the
safety
of
the
tenants,
which,
by
extension,
will
improve
the
safety
for
the
Neighbors,
we're
also
requesting
again,
then
relatively
indefinite
supervision
8
to
12
hours
a
day,
but
that
can
be
Revisited
and
changed
after
you
know,
six
months
or
a
year
that
we're
open
to
discussing
that.
AB
A
AB
That's
exactly
right,
so
there
are
a
few
other
about
six
items,
but
the
most
important
is
that
Supervision
in
the
building-
and
you
know
we
asked
for
some
review
of
the
vetting
process
as
well
and
a
review
history
of
it
and
those
vetting,
but
that
first
one
is
really
really
essential
and,
and
so
and
I
you
know
would
like
to
support
this
project.
I
know
I've,
had
concerns
about
like
I,
want
a
preservation
commission
to
look
at
it
to
be
able
to.
You
know,
maybe
make
some
tweaks,
but
all
that
aside,
this
is
this.
AB
Is
it
for
me?
I
need
to
see
I
need
to
see
Protections
in
place
for
the
tenants
there
I
need
to
see
the
neighborhood
improved,
so
I'm
willing
to
support
this,
but
I.
Absolutely.
We
all
need
to
see
the
neighbors
who
are
here.
We
need
to
see
these
specific
changes
with
specific
language
with
timelines
time
frames
in
place,
and
so
I
would
like
to
move
to
hold
this.
Let's
get
this
right,
I
mean
this
is
such
this
has
been
such
a
problem
for
the
Third
Ward
and
the
First
Ward.
This
is
our
opportunity.
AB
It
also
will
bode
well
for
the
development
on
Church
Street
to
see
that
commitment
to
see
that
specific,
explicit
commitment
with
with
details
and
again
they're,
not
overwhelming-
and
you
know,
I
know
that
hodc
has
other
properties
that
it
has
been
successful
in
managing.
This
is
not
one
of
them,
but
we
need
to
make.
We
need
to
look
at
what
needs
to
be
done
in
this
building.
In
order
to
to
finally
see
some
permanent
improvements.
A
Council,
member
Kelly
moves
to
hold
items
P1
and
P4.
Is
there
a
second
councilmember
Ravel
seconds
as
I
understand
and
I
get
this
run
a
lot
so
Mr
Cummings
help.
AF
Is
not
debatable
and
doesn't
need
a
vote
all
right.
The
only
thing
that
would
need
a
vote
is
if
there
is
motion
to
over
right
rule.
A
AF
A
Understood
and
but
just
let's
do
doing
the
arithmetic,
because
we're
at
an
we
have
an
unusual
denominator
this
evening,
two-thirds
of
seven
rounded
up
as
five,
so
it
would
take
five
out
of
the
seven.
It
would
take
a
5-2
vote
to
overturn
the
hold
on
the
motion
to
overturn
the
hold
council
member
Burns.
I
So
you
know,
I
would
not
mind
a
hold
on
this
I
I.
Think
my
concern
is
the
reality
and
I
read:
I
sent
everybody
the
response.
I
I
I
sent
everybody
the
email
that
Richard
cading
sent
Richard
Kennedy
executive
director
of
hodc
to
myself,
councilmember
Kelly,
maybe
councilmember
Nguyen
after
following
the
meeting
they
have
with
the
tenants
with
the
neighbors
Etc,
and
if
you
review
that
and
then
I
also
send
councilmember
Kelly's
response.
I
Really
they
were
no
big
material
issues
that
councilmember
Kelly
had
with
what
Richard
said.
He
wanted
to
do
other
than
issues
that
will
not
go
resolved.
Even
if
we
wait
another
week
or
two,
which
is
there
are
fundamental
differences
between
Richard
and
councilmember
Kelly
about
how
long
security
needs
to
be
there
period
right
now,
I
believe
it
started
at
eight
hours.
I
It
I
remember
everything
that
I
read
every
day
when
it
comes
to
my
project.
He
doesn't
understand
that
so
three
months,
then,
on
top
of
that
indefinitely
want
security
for
for
either
8
or
12
hours,
or
something
like
that
might
be
wrong
on
that,
but
something
in
there
and
so
for
a
non-profit
that
provides
housing
considerably
under
market
rate
right
and
doesn't
have
a
ton
of
money
just
to
add
another
300
or
so
thousand
dollars
to
their
budget
to
provide
security.
I
It
just
doesn't
make
sense.
Now
what
Richard
has
told
me
I,
don't
know
if
you
said
this
in
writing.
Is
that
they'd
be
more
than
happy
to
bring
on
security
as
needed
as
they're
doing
now,
and
I'll
even
admit
that
this
is
something
that
should
have
been
done
sooner
and
I'm
glad
that
the
city
is
supporting
them
in
this.
I
But
if
issues
come
up
again
and
they
have
a
problem
tenant
that
they
will
hire
Security
on
in
order
to
address
it
to
me
that
sounds
reasonable,
but
I,
that's
even
if
you
spend
another
two
weeks
on
it,
they're
not
going
to
be
able
to
find
the
money
to
commit
to
it.
Nor
do
they
necessarily
see
necessarily
feel
it's
necessary.
So
that's
the
reason
why
I
don't
think
this
hold
is
going
to
amount
of
money,
so
I'm
happy
to
to
support
it.
I
If,
if,
if
you
can
articulate
why
what
is
going
to
happen
between
now
and
how
are
you
going
to
convince
hodc
that
that
it's
necessary,
because
I'm,
not
even
sure
the
city
and
I,
will
call
on
people
if
I
need
to
agree
that
that
we,
that
especially
the
city
needs
to
continue
to
contribute
money
to
our
security
beyond
the
eviction
of
this
individual?
So
what
what
are
you
going
to
do
to
convince
all
of
us
that
this
is
worth
continuing
to
invest
in.
AB
AB
As
council
member
Winn
who's
experiences.
AB
That's
fine!
Thank
you.
Okay,
so
the
thing
about
negotiations
and
about
getting
this
right
and
currently
there
is
a
trend
I
think
neighbors
here
will
attest
to
it
to
the
drug
dealing
issues.
This
has
been
sort
of
a
hub
this
building
and
we
need
to
break
the
trend
and
restricted
hours
where
it's
not
covered
Round.
The
Clock
doesn't
ensure
now
I.
AB
Think
councilmember
Nguyen
are
open
to
negotiating
whether
it's
two
months
or
three
months,
but
we
need
Round
the
Clock
initially
to
change
this,
to
break
this
trend
to
break
this
pattern
at
this
building,
we
need
so
there's
full
coverage.
Initially,
we
need
to
see
this
stopped
and
improved
after
that.
We
need
some
Assurance,
not
just
because
right
now,
the
way
this
reads
is
insufficient.
It
says
that
there
will
be
eight
eight
hours
per
day,
two
12
hours
per
day
for
the
near
term.
That's
very
vague
that
doesn't
tell
us
that
doesn't
give
us
a
timeline.
AB
We
need
a
timeline.
We
need
to
know
that
after
that
and
again
I
think
councilmember,
when
I
would
be
open
to
talking
about
how
many
months
that
negotiating
how
many
months
of
Around
the
Clock
supervision
we
have,
whether
it's
two
or
three
months,
I'm
open
to
negotiating
that.
But
we
want
to
break
that
Trend
and
and
then
we
need
to
know.
We
need
to
agree
to
a
significant
chunk
of
time
that
there
is
8
to
12
hours
residents.
AB
I
know
in
here
in
this
room
and
neighbors
would
like
to
see
Around
the
Clock
all
the
time,
given
their
long-standing
negative
experience
with
the
Claridge
were
saying
that
at
least
minimally
break
the
pattern
give
us
a
couple
of
months
around
the
clock
and
after
that,
commit
to
six
months
or
the
year,
and
we
can
discuss
that
to
be
visited.
So
if,
after
six
months
you
know
or
a
year,
we
decide
that
this
is
looking
great.
It
gets
scaled
back,
but
we
need.
We
need
those
commitments.
We
need
a
time
frame.
We
need
a
timeline.
AB
I'm
saying
may
I
just
say
one
more
thing
so,
and
it's
not
just
one
person.
This
is
a.
There
have
been
a
couple
of
evictions
since
I've
started,
and
it's
not
just
that
and
I
think
also,
if
you'd
like
the
neighbors,
who
could
wax
on
much
more
than
I
even
can
I
know
just
from
the
constant
calls
I
get
from
the
constant
problems.
It's
not
just
one
resident.
I
Honestly,
for
me,
it's
not
even
neighbors
it's
at
this
point.
Our
Police
Department,
like
I
under
I,
understand
that
the
perspective
of
a
tenant
or
a
neighbor
does
not
is
not.
Is
one
component
of
the
evidence
you
need
to
determine
the
frequency
of
something
occurring
and
who
is
responsible?
That
is
only
one
data
point
right,
so
you're
you're
I
we're
all
supposed
to
listen
to
Residents,
but
then
we're
supposed
to
dig
deeper
and
see
like
all
right
what
is
actually
happening.
What
I'm
hearing
is
happening
is
that
it's
most
mostly
one
person
is
responsible.
I
Now,
if
our
Police
Department
says
that's
not
true
or
even
hodc,
that
works,
you
know
these
are
tenants
of
a
building
that
they
manage
are
saying.
Is
you
know
that
that
the
issue
is
beyond
this
one
person
that
we
need
to
hear
from
them?
But
that's
not
what
I'm
hearing
and
so
I
think
the
commitment
is
to
make
sure
that
there
is
around
or
not
around
the
clock
but
12
hour,
a
12
hour
period,
which
I
was
told
today
I
think
has
not
been
communicated
to
the
residents
which
I
think
it's
a
good
thing.
I
Because
then,
if
you
know
the
hours,
they
can
just
say
well,
we're
gonna,
sell
drugs
or
do
whatever
between
this
time
and
this
time,
so
that
has
not
been
communicated.
So
there's
a
sporadic
nature
to
it.
I
think
it's
good,
but
we
you
know,
but
the
the
commitment
is
to
make
sure
that
that
security
is
in
place
until
this
individual
is
removed,
and
maybe
there's
some
wiggle
room.
I
Maybe
it's
not
the
10th,
maybe
it's
the
20th
20th,
but
again
for
non-profit
that
is
spending
their
money
to
provide
housing
considerably
a
below
market
rate
to
have
to
figure
out
how
to
come
up
with
funds
to
address
a
what
is
probably
going
to
be
less
of
an
issue
considerably
less
of
an
issue.
After
the
10th
I
think
is
irresponsible,
and
if
we
are
going
to
do
that
and
I
and
I've
mentioned
this,
the
city
needs
to
to
chip
in
they're.
Doing
us.
I
Every
affordable
housing
developer
in
this
town
is
doing
us
a
service
by
providing
this
housing.
We
do
not
need
to
put
this
burden.
So
if
you
as
a
council
member
in
this
area,
believes
it's
this
important,
then
my
motion
is
going
to
be
for
the
city
to
pay
for
it.
A
Okay,
so
both
you
and
councilmember
Kelly's
time
has
elapsed.
Councilmember
Reed.
W
Thank
you,
I
participate.
Definitely
one
I
I
certainly
hear
council
member
Kelly's
concerns
about.
W
Nuisance
properties-
and
you
know,
property
owners
who
may
not
deal
with
those
issues
appropriately.
That's
why
I'm
a
huge
proponent
of
land
of
property
owner
licensing
and
that's
the
way
that
we
can
deal
with
this,
but
I
do
think
it's
inappropriate
for
us
to
take
two
separate
issues
and
and
conflate
them
and
use
this
project
and
this
funding
as
a
tool
or
a
bludgeon
against
another
issue.
W
Now,
if
hogc
was,
you
know,
a
property
owner,
a
property
manager
that
had
a
terrible
track
record
throughout
our
city
and
had
a
real,
you
know
history
of
negligence,
one
no
way
in
heck
should
we
be
giving
them
four
million
dollars
to
build
anything
else,
and
so,
if
we
do
think
that
hodc
is
that
bad
I
and
there
was
evidence
to
support
it.
We
shouldn't
be
giving
them
money,
but
short
of
that
and
absent.
W
W
Unless
there
was
a
clear
you
know,
history
of
negligence
that
was
associated
with
many
of
their
projects
or
even
with
the
Claridge
and
I,
don't
think
I've
even
heard
a
clear
history
of
negligence
with
the
Claridge
other
than
you
know
these
issues
that
have
been
popping
up
recently
and
that
could
happen
in
any
property
and
so
short
of
the
gross
negligence.
I.
Think
it's
inappropriate
for
to
hold
this
I
would
urge
my
colleagues
to
even
reconsider
if
they
seconded
that
hold
but
to
to
vote
to
move
this
forward.
W
You
know
and
and
really
the
determining
factor
is,
if
they
are
so
bad
that
we
feel
that
we
have
to
use
this
tool
in
order
to
get
them
to
fix
the
issues
at
Claridge,
then
we
just
should
not
give
them
the
money
at
all
in
the
first
place,
and
so
with
that
I
would
ask
my
colleagues
to
vote
to
overturn
this
hold
and
move
forward
with
the
faith
that
this
property
owner
has
demonstrated
a
clear
commitment
to
responsible
ownership
and
I
I
think
without
using
this
anti.
You
know
this
unfriendly
move.
W
We
can
get
the
we
can
achieve
the
goals
that
councilmember
Kelly
seeks
to
achieve,
and
then
lastly,
I
didn't
quite
hear
fully.
The
answer.
There's
a
lot
of
said,
but
I
did
not
hear
what
a
two-week
hold
will
accomplish
insofar
as
I
don't
know
what
we're
going
to
come
back
in
two
weeks,
we're
going
to
have
a
full
deal
and
if
there
isn't
a
deal
worked
out
in
two
weeks
or
there
is
an
agreement.
Does
that
mean
that
you're
still
a
no
vote
and
do
we.
W
V
Z
Out
of
deference
to
my
colleagues
in
the
first
and
third
Wards,
who
are
most
impacted
by
the
problems
of
the
clearance
property
I,
will
support
their
request
to
table
this,
but
I
am
looking
forward
to
getting
to
the
underlying
issues
and
voting
yes
on
these
as
soon
as
they
come
back
to
us,.
A
Will
the
clerk
please
take
the
role
on
the
motion,
and
just
this
is
one
of
those
directional
revoting
situations.
I
want
to
be
clear.
This
is
the
motion
to
overturn
the
hold.
So
if
this
motion
fails,
then
the
items
are
held.
If
this
motion
passes,
then
the
hold
fails
and
we
go
on
debating
P1
and
P4
so
with
the
clerk.
Please
take
the
role
on
the
motion
to
overturn
the
hold.
AC
V
A
A
Z
W
A
Councilmember
news
passage
of
ordinance,
49-0-23
council
member,
read
seconds
council
member
Reed.
W
Yes,
I
I,
not
a
substantive
note,
someone
pulled
it
off,
so
I'll
definitely
be
happy
to
respond
to
any
questions
or
concerns,
if
necessary.
For
me,
but
I
do
just
want
to
recognize
that
this
started
with
our
Equity
empowerment,
commission
and
our
Equity
empowerment
commission,
which
I
am
the
council,
is
on
on
voted
to
move
this
forward.
It
went
to
Housing
and
Community
Development
Committee
and
is
now
here
and
I.
Just
do
want
to
it's
not
reflected
here
in
the
in
the
text
of
who's.
W
Recommending
this,
but
I
do
think
it's
important
to
understand
where
this
originated
and
so
really
happy
with
this
work.
The
goal
is
to
make
one
to
to
increase
funding
for
our
affordable
housing
fund.
As
was
mentioned
earlier,
the
demolition
tax
does
not
bring
in
a
great
source
of
revenue
for
affordable
housing
fund,
and
this
isn't
going.
W
You
know
we
didn't
increase
it
so
much
that
this
is
going
to
fundamentally
change
our
funding,
but
this
will
reflect
additional
funding
and
will
be
a
a
deterrent
to
folks
who
may
want
to
demolish
property
and
hopefully
will
serve
as
an
incentive
to
to
work
toward
adaptive.
W
Reuse,
where
possible
I,
do
want
to
note
that
there
are
exemptions
for
create
the
creation
of
affordable
housing
if
I'm,
not
mistaken,
and
those
exemptions,
I
think
are,
are
really
important
and
do
also
help
us
continue
moving
forward
and
creating
new
affordable
units
while
living
up
to
our
car
goals.
Thank.
Z
A
A
Well,
the
the
next
item
that
would
ordinarily
come
before
us.
Ordinarily,
it's
a
funny
way
to
put
it
is
item
SP2,
so
one
one
thing
we
would
need
to
do
to
come
back
to
that
is
to
have
a
motion
to
pick
a
pack
up
from
the
table.
I
A
Right,
council
member
Reed
moves
to
pick
item
SP2
back
up
for
the
table
council
member
Harris
seconds.
We
could
just
vote
on
that
motion
and
then
have
the
item
before
us,
but
are
you
turning
related
to
debate
that
motion.
W
Yes,
I'll,
never
read
Mrs
director
Flex.
Do
you
have
an
update
for
us
as
far
as
what
was
discussed.
AE
I
do
I.
W
With
that
I
think
and
potentially
to
save
us
some
time,
I
would
like
to
just
amend
my
motion
that
I
made
earlier
to
reflect,
instead
of
one
million
from
the
West
Evanston
Tiff
up
to
I'm.
Sorry,
instead
of
1.5
million
from
the
West
Evanston.
A
W
A
W
W
New
version
of
your
amendment-
I-
guess
yes
and
so
I
I'm
do
I
need
to
send
this
to
you
in
writing.
I
am
happy
to
edit
what
I
sent
yeah.
A
W
AE
It
would
be
a
mixture
of
two
sources,
the
affordable
housing
fund
and
home
funding,
so
it
would
be
already
we'd
there's
a
commitment
of
a
request
for
a
million
from
the
affordable
housing
fund.
It
would
be
an
addition
to
that,
but
exactly
how
that
500
000
would
be
divided
between
home
and
the
affordable
housing
fund.
I,
don't
want
to
try
to
make
an
absolute
commitment
at
the
moment,
but
between
the
two
of
those
funding
sources
we
can
get
that.
W
So
then,
I
I
am
in
my
motion
to
that.
The
city
will
provide
Gap
funding
up
to
1
million
from
the
West
Evanston
Tiff,
1.5
million
from
arpa
and
1.5
million
from
affordable
housing
funds
and
home
act.
Funds.
W
A
A
Councilmember
Reed
withdraws
his
Amendment
and
replaces
it
with
an
amendment
that
would
provide
for
the
city
to
offer
Gap
funding
up
to
a
million
dollars
from
the
West
Evanston
tip
a
million
and
a
half
dollars
from
ARCA
and
a
million
and
a
half
dollars
to
come
out
of
in
aggregate
the
affordable
housing
and
home
funds.
A
AA
W
A
W
Z
A
W
Okay,
I
guess
this
is
still
appropriate
here.
I
call
it
the
wards,
but
I
I,
intended
to
when
I
made
the
motion
for
item
P3,
which
is
the
plan
development
on
Chicago
Avenue
I,
would
like
us
to
consider
that
I
think
and
not
consider
the
project
as
it
is.
W
It's
very
clear
that
there
is
not
support
for
that,
but
I
think
advancing
this
tonight
and
holding
it
or
tabling
it
for
several
months
is
appropriate
in
order
to
give
the
applicant
similar
with
what
we
did
with
hcdc,
where
we
allowed
the
scale
to
come
down,
we
allowed
them
to
come
back
and
reduce
the
number
of
units
reduce
the
height
and
we
were
able
to
get
to
yes
and
I
think,
particularly
for
an
applicant
who's
gone
through
this
process.
So
many
times
we
there
there's.
As
we
noted
during
our
discussion
today.
W
There
is
a
lot
of
confusion
and
confliction
within
our
zoning
code,
and
we
should
account
for
that
and
we
should
work
to
make
our
city
a
more
I
mean
I'm,
certainly
not
a
developer.
You
know
friendly
person
necessarily,
but
some
folks
call
me
a
Marxist,
not
true,
but
so,
but
I
do
think.
There
is
something
to
making
sure
that
there's
a
clear
set
of
rules
there's
something
to
making
sure
that
our
process
is
fair
and
that
we
aren't
having
folks
go
through.
W
You
know,
jump
through
many
hoops,
and
so
I
would
seek
a
second
just
for
the
ability
to
table
this
down
the
road
to
allow
this
group
to
reduce
the
height
and
meet
some
of
the
the
goals
that
that
we
we
ask
for
and
not
make
folks
go
through.
What
was
almost
a
two-year
process?
I
mean
I,
remember,
meeting
with
these
folks,
maybe
right
before
sworn
in
or
right
after
our
sworn
in
and
to
have.
W
You
know
folks
go
through
another
several
year
process
is
not
the
most
friendly
way
that
we
can
engage,
and
so,
if
folks
are
willing
to
entertain
that
I
will
move
ordinance.
60023,
granting
a
special
use
for
plan
development
with
site
development
allowances
at
1621-31,
Chicago
Avenue
and
a
D4
downtown
in
the
D4
downtown
transition.
District.
A
Let
me
just-
and
you
know,
I
I
think
my
general
position
is
being
supportive
of
more
people.
Living
I
haven't
seen
the
more
people
living
downtown.
The
more
density
near
Transit
is
well
known,
so
I'm
I'm
totally
sympathetic
to
your
point
that
figuring
out
the
right
scale
for
this
and
then
getting
TS
is
the
Right
Way,
Forward
I.
Think
as
a
procedural
matter
and.
A
That
was
that
was
some
excellent,
really
Niche
slapstick
that
just
occurred,
I
think
as
a
procedural
matter.
There's
I,
don't
know
that
we
are
I.
Don't
think
that
the
motion
not
having
been
seconded
stops
this
item
from
coming
back
on
an
agenda
later
and
I.
Do
wonder
if
your
intent
is
to
have
a
table
table
to
when
I?
Don't
think
it's
probably
a
two-week
conversation
that
you're
looking
for
here
and
so
I.
W
Yeah
as
far
as
I'm,
not
looking
to
pick
a
data,
I've
had
I
think
giving
this
a
few
months
to
to
come
back,
and
maybe
it
is
picking
date
out
of
the
head,
but
I
think
giving
just
a
few
months
makes
sense,
certainly
not
two
weeks
I'm
not
looking
to
hold
it
to
our
next
meeting.
W
I
do
think
this
is
something
that
should
come
at
least
three
to
four
months
down
the
line
to
allow
the
applicant
time
to
review
the
plan
and
try
to
actually
meet
this
without
having
to
go
through
another
year
or
two
process.
That
is
often
that
too
often
can
happen
with
these
kinds
of
projects,
and
so
I
think
I
responded
to
your
question
hopefully
and
gave
some
kind
of
clarity.
Maybe
I
didn't.
I
Be
just
yeah,
you
don't
have
to
keep
going
I
will.
I
Second,
this
just
keep
going
I
love
people
to
respond
during
discussion
of
just
where
they
are
on
this
again,
I
think
those
standards
were
yeah,
I'll
open
for
it,
one
second
open
for
interpretation
and
so
in
in
most
of
it,
I
think
applied
to
the
height
character
of
the
community
and
all
this
nonsense
that
nobody
knows
what
means
anyway,
but
I
think
most
of
it
has
to
do
with
the
height,
so
I'm
seconding,
because
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
not
have
to
have
them
go
back
through
a
whole
process
if
it's
just
about
the
highest
for
this
body,
not
talking
about
the
community,
but
if
that's
what
it
boils
down
to
for
this
body,
I
think
it's
worth
looking
into
this.
A
So
I'm
I'm
not
gonna,
entertain
a
discussion
on
the
underlying
issue.
Now,
but
there's
been
a
notion
made
by
council
member
Reed
seconded
by
councilmember
Burns
to
pass
ordinance.
60-0-23
councilmember
Reed
you're
now
recognized
to
make
a
motion
to
table.
AF
A
A
W
Yes,
I
I
I,
move
that
we
table
this
to.
Can
someone
help
me
our
meeting
three
months
out,
which.
W
Yes,
I
would
like
I,
moved
to
table
this
to
our
September
26th
council
meeting.
A
Right
councilmember
Reed
moves
to
table
ordinance
60-0-23
to
the
September
26th
council
meeting
councilmember
Burns
seconds.
Will
the
clerk
please
take
the
role
on
the
motion
to
table.
AD
A
W
Yes,
I
well,
I,
don't
know
if
there's
a
difference
but
I
I
with
draw
my
original
motion.
I,
don't
think
that
really
changes
anything
I,
I.
W
Might
as
well
not
have
you
know,
it's
always
worth
it.
It's
always
worth
the
discussion.
D
W
W
W
It's
there
aren't
a
ton
of
opportunities
to
do
this
in
our
city,
particularly
at
a
a
pretty
dense
scale.
Our
downtown
is
one
of
the
few
areas
where
it
actually
does
make
sense.
If
we
are
truly
going
to
tackle
the
affordability,
I,
don't
think
it's
histrionics
to
say,
crisis
that
is
going
on
in
our
city.
W
We're
going
to
have
to
some
people
are
going
to
be
uncomfortable.
We're
going
to
have
to
do
things
that
we
maybe
wouldn't
have
considered
several
decades
ago
and
I
just
for
for
my
colleagues
who
may
be
less
proximate
to
some
of
the
to
the
affordability
crisis.
W
I
hope
that
in
the
future
we
will
view
it
as
a
crisis
and
not
something
that
we
can
just
wait
on
their
families
daily
being
forced
out
of
the
city
and
it
you
know.
May
at
this
scale
seem
hard
to
pin
down,
but
we
need
to
take
action.
We
need
to
take
Swift
action.
We
need
to
be
bold
and
move
forward
with
with
with
developments
and
not
hold
everything
up,
because
maybe
it's
a
tad
bit
taller
than
we'd
like
or
whatever
other
excuses
come
up.
W
So
thank
you
and
I
appreciate
working
with
all
of
you.
Councilmember.
AC
I
just
want
to
put
in
a
quick
plug
for
people
to
go
to
the
community
responder
Town
Hall
tomorrow
at
the
Ecology
Center
from
five
till
seven,
we
had
Rachel
Williams,
who
is
leading
our
re,
imagining
Public
Safety
efforts
here
at
the
city,
and
she
came
to
the
ninth
ward
meeting
and
we
had
a
really
nice
discussion
with
residents
and
I.
Think
it's
something
that
people
really
should
weigh
in
on.
Thanks.
AB
V
AA
Thank
you
just
wanted
to
send
out
a
special
Kudos.
There
was
a
street
naming
for
chief
Logan
this
past
Saturday
I
heard
it
went
really
well.
I
was
out
of
town
very
proud.
Our
first
black
police
chief,
so
I
was
glad
we
were
able
to
recognize
him.
It
happened
last
year,
but
it
rained
out.
Please
join
us.
July
8th
for
recycling
at
eths,
from
nine
to
noon,
and
then
July
13th
in
a
parasol
room
at
7
pm
will
be
the
second
war
meeting.
Thank
you.
Councilmember.
V
Z
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
Fourth
Ward
office
hours
will
be
Saturday.
July
8th.
We
are
going
to
meet
from
10
to
12
downtown
outside
at
Fountain.
Square
hope
to
see
you
there
and
the
next
Ward
meeting
will
be
Tuesday.
July
11th
7
p.m.
At
Robert,
Crown.
AD
Big
award
meeting
tomorrow
night
in
the
parasol
room
and
all
the
Overflow
rooms
in
the
building,
we'll
be
talking
about
three
very
three
issues
of
concern
related
to
the
proposed
concerts
at
the
new
state:
new
Ryan
Field
Stadium
that
we'll
be
talking
about
parking,
sound
and
concert
management,
and
my
residents
have
been
invited
to
send
me
their
questions
in
advance.
AD
So
I'll
be
asking
the
questions
rather
than
having
public
comment.
So
that's
tomorrow,
seven
o'clock.
A
One
more
item,
just
for
the
benefit
of
my
colleagues
up
here
and
everyone
who's
listening.
There
was
one
typo
in
the
agenda
item:
A3,
ordinance,
62-0-23
amending
Title,
1,
chapter
17,
section
one
purchases
of
goods
or
services.
That
was
an
ordinance
on
the
agenda
for
the
first
time,
so
that
actually
was
should
have
said
for
introduction
rather
than
for
action,
and
it
will
be
on
the
agenda
at
our
next
meeting.
Our
first
July
meeting.
W
A
Meant
to
say
a13
and
given
how
the
night's
gone
I,
probably
didn't
with
that
council
member
new
Smith
is
recognized
pursuant.
Z
To
five
Illinois
compiled
statutes,
120
Slash,
two,
a
move
that
the
city
council
convened
into
executive
session
to
discuss
agenda
items
regarding
the
litigation
building,
safety
and
Minutes
review,
and
also
security
procedures.