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A
C
D
C
B
A
Have
a
quorum
I
call
this
public
hearing
for
the
proposed
Dempster
dodge
tax
increment
finance
district,
to
order
the
proposed
redevelopment
plan
and
project
to
be
presented
by
economic
development
staff
and
our
consultants.
Kane
McKenna
defines
a
plan
to
assist
a
strategically
important
area
of
our
city
in
overcoming
a
number
of
redevelopment
barriers.
The
proposed
Dempster
dodge
TIF
district
includes
the
Evanston
plaza
shopping
center
at
the
southwest
corner
of
Dempster
and
dodge
the
parcel
is
currently
owned
by
Bonnie
management
and
whi
Real
Estate
Partners.
A
The
purpose
of
this
public
hearing
is
to
hear
from
any
interested
person
or
effected
taxing
districts.
Regarding
the
proposed
plan,
the
designation
of
the
TIF
district
and
the
adoption
of
TIF
financing.
The
City
Council
shall
hear
all
comments,
protests
and
objections
at
the
hearing.
Any
interested
person
or
affected
taxing
district
may
file
written
objections,
and/or
be
heard
orally.
With
respect
to
any
issues
embodied
in
the
hearing
notice.
A
E
Pursuant
to
the
TIF
act,
we
sent
out
certified
mailing
notices
to
all
a
taxing
districts,
a
record
as
well
as
the
state
of
Illinois
on
March
27th
of
2012
residential
addresses
within
750
feet
of
the
TIF
district
were
also
sent
notices,
regular,
regular
mail,
identifying
the
date
of
this
hearing,
as
well
as
the
availability
of
information
at
the
City
Clerk's
office.
Joint
review
board
meeting
with
the
affected
taxing
districts,
I
was
held
on
April
12th,
2012
notice
by
certified
mail
to
the
taxpayer
of
record.
E
In
this
case,
there
was
only
one
went
out
on
April
23rd
and
lastly,
there
were
two
newspaper
notices
on
April
19th
and
in
April
26th,
again
setting
out
the
time
and
place
of
the
public
hearing
as
well
as
what
would
be
covered
at
the
hearing.
So
the
city
has
conformed
to
all
the
required
notices.
Pursuant
to
that
effect,
thank.
A
F
You,
madam
mayor,
the
joint
review
board
met
April
12
2012
at
3:00
p.m.
at
the
Civic
Center
board.
Members
and
attendants
were
me:
alderman,
Marc,
tendons
city,
that
representing
the
city
of
Evanston
William
Stafford,
representing
Evanston
Township
High
School
District,
202,
Mary,
Brown,
Evanston,
Skokie,
Elementary,
School,
district
65
and
Michael
sub
Sutton,
a
member
at
large
I
was
nominated
as
chair,
Michael
Sutton
was
nominated
as
public
member
Kane
McKenna
and
economic
development
staff
presented
the
plan.
An
advisory
recommend
recommendation
to
the
City
Council
to
approve
the
plan
was
at
route
was
approved
unanimously.
A
G
G
And
why
do
we
want
to
do
it
now?
We
believe
that
the
economic
climate
is
improving
and
the
change
of
ownership
provides
a
great
opportunity
to
move
forward.
A
number
of
factors
have
held
the
center
back
from
his
full
potential
over
the
last
five
to
ten
years,
particularly
the
economic
downturn,
the
previous
owners
bankruptcy
and
the
prolonged
receivership.
G
There's
been
a
national
restructuring
of
retail,
the
the
consolidations,
the
downsizing
there's
been
bankruptcies
and
that's
particulars
have
experienced
all
of
those
and,
frankly,
there's
been
some
local
competitive
pressures.
We
have
some
good
shopping,
centers,
Howard,
Hartree,
Main,
Street,
Commons,
downtown
Evanston
and
then
outside
we've
got
Lincoln
wood,
town
center
and
Old
Orchard.
Those
are
all
kind
of
that's
the
retail
landscape
that
that
provides
a
kind
of
a
great
challenge
for
Evanston
plasm.
G
So
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
proposed
boundary.
This
is
a
single
parcel,
TIF
Dempster
on
the
north,
the
backside
of
the
shopping
center
on
the
south
and
dodge
the
public,
the
public
rider,
we've
dodged
to
the
east
and
this
kind
of
elongated
piece
that
is
actually
an
alley
that
is
I
own.
That
goes
from
Dempster
to
Greenleaf
and.
G
G
We've
created
this
standalone
TIF
district
really
and
leaving
West
Evanston
frankly
out
of
it,
because
back
in
2005
and
2007
when
the
west
have
incentive
was
created
and
when
it
was
amended,
the
assessed
value
the
assessed
valuation
of
Evanston
plaza
was
actually
a
little
too
high.
The
real-estate
psycho
hadn't
taken
or
the
downturn
hadn't
taken
place
there.
Their
vacancy
rates
were
relatively
low
and
our
consultants,
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
So
at
the
time
that
the
assessed
valuation
was
a
little
too
high
to
have
any
kind
of
advantage
from
implementing
a
TIF.
G
G
Well,
the
TIF
has
a
23
year
lifespan.
We
were
looking
at
the
immediate
short-term
goals
of
the
TIF,
and
the
consultants
are
gonna
outline
and
you
can
you've
read
in
your
packet.
There's
a
20
million
dollar
budget
associated
with
it.
That's
roughly
the
amount
that
would
be
collected
over
23
years.
That's
not
an
annual
collection.
That's
the
cumulative
total.
Over
23
years.
G
We
will
not
I'm
just
going
to
say
we're
not
going
to
be
giving
20
million
dollars
to
Bonnie
management.
This
is
a
and
there's
a
line.
There's
a
line
item
on
the
budget
that
addresses
how
we
deal
with
private
development.
But,
frankly,
in
the
short
term,
we
want
to
help
reposition
the
Shopping
Center
to
improve
the
occupancy
levels.
That's
the
key
thing
and
we
want
to
use
it
to
leverage
some
quality
tenants.
We
believe
that
bonnie
management
they've
had
successful
track
record
at
their
other
shopping
centers.
G
We
believe
that
they
could
probably
fill
the
center
very
quickly,
but
we
want
to
incentivize
them
a
little
bit
and
leverage,
maybe
something
a
little
bit
above
average
that
that
puts
the
center
in
a
competitive
advantage.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
redeveloping
revitalizing
the
neighborhood
shopping
center
and
increased
sales
tax
revenues,
and
then,
in
the
long
term,
we
can
think
differently
about
how
we
use
the
site
retail
changes
very
quickly.
We've
seen
that
at
this
particular
shopping
center,
a
number
of
times
over
the
last
decade
or
so.
G
So
how
do
we
prepare
for
that
change?
And
one
way
we
do
that?
Potentially
we
have
to
discuss
this
as
staff
and
as
a
community
is
potentially
allowing
that
increment
to
build
up
and
have
a
savings
account,
so
to
speak,
to
use
to
position
ourselves
to
be
ready
for
that
change
and
the
next
change
there
will
be
change
and.
G
If
the
council
approves
the
designation,
we'll
begin
negotiations
with
the
property
owner,
but
the
focus
again
of
attracting
quality
retailers,
generating
significant
sales
taxes
and
we'll
work
with
the
council
and
continue
our
public
outreach,
we've
had
a
number
of
Ward
meetings
to
determine
the
types
of
public
infrastructure
and
improvements
that
are
desired.
I'd
like
to
invite
Nick,
Wright,
fir
kay
McKenna
to
come
up
and
present
the
details.
I
just
want
to
point
out
my
my
contact
information
as
I've
said
at
the
community
meetings
and
the
word
meetings
I'm
available
to
take
any
questions
you
have.
G
H
Thank
You
Mara.
Thank
you,
members
of
the
council
tonight
I'm
just
going
to
focus
really
on
one
question,
and
that
is
how
does
the
area
qualify
under
the
TIF
act
as
a
blighted,
blighted,
improved
area
I
just
want
to
preface
that
by
saying
the
under
the
ACT
blight
has
a
very
specific
meaning.
It's
not
the
common
usage
that
you
might
have
in
everyday
conversation.
It
has
a
very
specific
meaning
under
the
TIF
act,
the
slides
that
are
in
the
packet
and
that
are
on
the
website
and
publicly
available.
H
H
So
these
are
the
factors
right
here:
13
factors
and
Kaye
McKenna
reviewed
this
site.
We
walked
through
the
you
know:
the
shopping
center,
we've
analyzed
the
13
factors.
Well,
it
came
down
with
was
that
there
were
six
factors
present.
You
need
five
under
the
TIF
act
to
qualify
it
as
blighted
and
improved
the
first
one.
Perhaps
the
most
important
is
obsolescence
and
that's
a
standalone
factor,
but
it
sort
of
summarizes
some
of
the
other
factors,
including
the
very
last
one
lagging
eav.
Those
two
are
very
closely
connected.
H
H
So
in
terms
of
obsolescence,
you
see
that
in
the
year
V
numbers,
but
you
also
see
it
in
the
declining
market
values,
and
then
you
also
see
it
in
the
reduce
occupancy
levels
that
Paul
was
referring
to
in
terms
of
the
ownership
numbers
of
the
new
owners
indicated
that
the
current
level
is
52
percent
occupied,
40
apes
and
unoccupied,
which
is
extraordinarily
high.
As
you
might
imagine,
it's
not
uncommon,
for
you
know,
shopping
centers
to
have
a
normal
turn
over
or
churn,
but
that
usually
is
in
the
10
to
15
to
20
percent
range.
H
These
are
just
really
quickly
some
photographs
of
the
vacant
storefronts.
As
you
see,
this
is
one
of
the
storefronts
I
think
closer
to
the
east
side
on
dodge,
that's
an
interior,
and
then
this
is
I
believe
connected
to
the
old
Frank's
nursery.
It's
been
vacant
for
quite
some
time
and
that's
just
the
back
side.
H
In
addition
to
some
of
those
factors,
we
have
some
other
TIF
act,
factors
such
as
deleterious
layout,
which
is
speaks
to
some
of
the
land-use
coordination
problems
and
environmental
cleanup.
Environmental
cleanup
speaks
to
the
fact
that
there
was
at
some
point
in
the
last
30
or
40
years.
Some
environmental
contamination
costs
were
incurred
under
the
TIF
Act.
Yet
to
demonstrate
that
costs
were
incurred
to
remediate,
which
they
did
they
place
an
engineered
barrier
over
that
area,
so
it
meets
that
criterion
under
the
Act
good.
H
D
H
E
From
baybridge
Leakey
from
Kay
McKenna
from
the
standpoint
of
this
site
in
terms
of
internal
circulation,
there's
been
in
terms
of
our
review
of
the
site,
as
well
as
discussions
with
the
owners
to
things
in
terms
of
the
size
of
the
buildings
and
the
depth,
as
it
relates
to
replacement
users
and
the
way
the
center
was
originally
designed
in
terms
of
some
of
the
bigger
boxes.
This
Center
itself
was
more
of
a
function
of
having
not
only
a
couple
large
anchors,
but
also
some
medium
sized
boxes,
in
terms
of
where
their
layouts
were.
E
D
I'm
sorry
I
just
need
to
follow
cuz
I'm
over
there
kind
of
regularly
I
having
issues
with
the
the
parking
and,
if
you're,
going
to
make
this
the
building
smaller
or
the
individual
tenant
spaces.
I
can
understand
that.
But
as
far
as
really
the
egress
and
the
parking
there's
really
not
much,
you
would
change
there's
a
lot
of
already
curb
cuts.
There's
plenty
of
parking
for
as
many
tenants
you
could
have
so
I
I'm,
just
a
little
suspect
about
this
particular
qualification
factor.
When
really
the
only
thing
that's
inadequate
is
the
actual
building
itself.
D
As
far
as
being
able
to
make
the
spaces
smaller
you're
really
not
going
to
change
anything
else
with
the
parking
or
the
delivery
of
of
materials.
That
so
that's
why
I'm
asking
because
what
you're
saying
is
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense
to
me
on
the
ingress
and
egress
and
the
parking,
because
there's
plenty
of
parking
there,
but.
E
I
think
and
I
agree
with
you
in
terms
of
the
parking
I
think
it
had
to
do
when
we
were
looking
at
some
of
the
ideas
for
reuse.
Perhaps
especially
in
some
of
the
central
spots,
were
that
Frank's
nursery
was
there
were
some
issues
as
it
related
to
either
access
from
the
front,
as
opposed
maybe
to
the
rear,
as
well
as
some
issues
as
related
to
loading
and
or
unloading
for
some
of
the
uses
that
they
were
talking
about.
So
from
the
standpoint
of
maybe
overall
parking
field.
E
Probably
overall
parking
field
is
fine
from
the
accessori
grass,
in
terms
of
the
two
or
three
curb
cuts
that
come
in
there
again.
You're
right,
there's,
probably
not
much.
That
could
be
done,
but
it
was
more
as
it
related
I
think
that
some
of
the
internal
circulation,
if
for
some
of
the
users
again
and
part
of
that,
is
contingent
depending
on
the
folks
that
they're
going
to
be
ultimately
talking
to
and
the
kind
of
lease
arrangements
that
could
be
negotiated.
A
I
I
E
And
again,
in
terms
of
I
think
Nick
mentioned
as
well
as
Paul.
You
know
kind
of
a
coincidence
as
it
related
to
the
distressed
market
conditions.
We've
all
experienced,
plus
some
of
the
special
use
original
design
features
of
the
center
they
kind
of
coalesced.
In
order
to
make
it
a
lot
more
difficult
to
have
economical,
leasing
of
a
site
and.
I
I
was
there
one
day
with
alderman
Braithwaite
with
the
potential
user
who
stood
right
in
that
huge
parking
lot
and
said?
Well,
you
know
he
indicated
that
he
would
really
like
to
be
there,
but
he
would
have
to
tear
this
down
and
he
pointed
to
a
chunk
of
space
and
say
this
would
have
to
be
torn
down,
because
I
have
to
build
my
own
custom.
E
And
I
think
that's
part
of
you
know.
You
know
the
issue
as
it
relates
to
the
importance
that,
if
potentially
for
the
site,
because
in
terms
of
turning
it
around,
it's
going
to
really
be
a
question
in
terms
of
addressing
the
vacancy
are
the
types
of
users.
You
know
that
you're
going
to
be
able
to
attract
to
the
site
that
the
community
will
use
users
that
will
be
successful
and
be
able
to
pay
rents
that
allow
for
the
center
to
be
properly
maintained
over
time.
E
A
J
E
Of
the
rope
I
mean
I
mean
the
the
uses
that
they're
talking
to
generally
are
primarily
retail,
but
there's
also
some
service
users,
given
the
fact
that
letters
of
intent,
at
least
that
the
last
go-around
that
we
had
with
them
have
not
been
signed
there.
There
are
some
issues
as
it
relates
to
confidentiality
at
this
time
right
now,
but
most
of
the
uses
that
they've
been
talking
to
have
been
a
combination
of
retail,
with
some
service.
G
Aldermen
scanning
binders
are
representative,
we've
been
dealing
closely
with
and,
for
example,
he's
going
to
the
ICSE
Convention
I
think
it's
next
week
or
starting
this
weekend,
so
he's
pursuing
tenants
that
way
and
again
it
is,
as
Bob
had
mentioned,
there's
he's
pursuing
some
retail
he's,
also
considering
some
additional
options
of
kind
of
service
and
other
type
use.
So
we're
we're
really.
You
know
we
haven't
even
started
the
redevelop
or
a
renegotiation
process,
because
we
have
to
have
this
thing
designated
before.
We
start
that,
but
we
do
remain
in
close
contact
with
them.
H
A
couple
more
slides,
I
think
I
touched
on
that
inadequate
utilities.
The
engineer
that
the
city
uses
assisted
us
in
making
a
finding
of
inadequate
utilities-
and
this
is
not
uncommon,
where
you
have
a
lot
of
materials
used
in
the
underground
pipe
system
or
water
main
system
such
as
cast-iron
pipes
that
are
prone
to
outages,
I,
think
I
touched
on
this
earlier
and
this
feeds
to
the
other
finding
of
obsolescence.
We
have
a
such
a
finding
of
a
lagging
AV
worth.
You
have
three
or
more
out
of
the
five
years.
H
If
you
have
it
laying
relative
to
the
city
or
relative
to
CPI,
you
make
that
finding,
and
hopefully
you
can
make
that
slide
out,
but
you
see
starting
in
2005
the
base
year.
You
start
at
a
high
point
of
13
million.
It
did
climb
a
little
bit
and
Oh
8
and
then
it
dropped
severely
in
that
kind
of
coincides
with
the
Assessor
capturing
the
market
trends
and
it
dropped
drastically
for
that
one
parcel.
H
A
D
I'm
not
I'm,
not
sure
who,
if
I'm,
asking
this
to
Paul
or
to
King
McKenna,
but
the
inadequate
utilities.
I
have
question
about
that
as
well.
So
when
the
shopping
center
was
built,
however,
long
ago
now,
15
15
years
ago,
wasn't
it
so
not
not
we're
not
talking
a
long
period
of
time
so
when
the
shopping
center
was
built,
I'm
assuming
that
their
new
utilities
were
put
in
as
part
of
the
shopping
center
and
the
shopping
center
is
surrounded
by
a
tiff
already,
that
could
be
used
for
replacing
obsolete
utilities.
D
D
E
D
The
development,
that's
that
you're
asking
to
be
tipped,
has
new
pipes
and
utilities
when
the
center
was
created.
Do
you
understand
what
I'm
asking
because
you're
you're
basically
double
dipping
on
the
the
element
of
a
TIF
because
you're
when
we
recreated
the
West
Evanston?
If
you
said,
utilities
are
bad,
so
we
put
those
in
that
TIF,
correct
and.
E
I
mean
we'll
double-check
on
that,
but
as
to
the
inadequate
utilities,
I'd
have
to
double-check
to
see
if
there
was
in
the
u.s.
dive
instant.
If
designation
report
and
again,
if,
if
it
were
to
be
again
each
area
kind
of
stands
on
their
own,
they
do
have
some
interconnection.
Is
it
released?
They
both
feed
off
the
same
system.
E
D
E
I
think
from
the
standpoint
of
the
actual
on-site
utilities,
that's
not
as
much
the
issue
as
it
were,
relating
to
the
off-site
utilities.
That
fed
in
I
think
the
lines
that
are
underneath
the
parking
lot.
The
lines
you're
right,
those
those
were
all
put
in
as
part
of
the
center's
construction
and
what
we're
really
looking
at
is
kind
of
a
bigger
picture.
Saying
what
the
connection
is
to
the
utilities
of
which
the
center
feeds
into
right.
G
All
the
men,
I'm
gonna,
try
to
reset
kind
of
and
I
understand
the
question.
The
the
first
point
of
clarification
is
because
if
we
could
hit
the
lights
really
quick,
you
know
yes,
West
Evanston
has,
you
know,
has
its
own
boundary
and
it
has
its
own
utilities
and
if
you
notice,
dodge
Avenue
kind
of
south
of
Dempster
north
of
Greenleaf
is
also
the
public.
G
Right-Of-Way
aspect
is
in
the
proposed
Evanston
plaza
or
the
depths
or
dodge
TIF,
so
I'm
just
pointing
that
that
out
as
a
point
of
clarification,
so
it's
not
just
the
parking
lot
and
the
building.
It's
also
some
of
the
public
right
away.
I'm
gonna
ask
our
consultants
to
address
the
technical
question,
which
is:
how
do
you
define
in
quit?
Utilities
I
mean
there's
state
statute
that
defines
it
and
we
rely
on
them
to
define
that
as
a
finding
and
I
think
I
think
they
can
do
that.
Based
on
the
report.
H
I
did
find
the
letter
we
receive
our
the
analysis
from
the
engineer,
specifically
there's
a
700
feet,
area
of
sewer
that
runs
from
Dodge
to
the
north
down
to
crane
and
a
runs
along
the
dodge
from
again
dentist,
sir
to
crane.
So
that's
the
key
area,
at
least
according
the
engineer
that
was
inadequate
and
I.
Would
you
know
so
it
doesn't
really
double
dip
in
terms
of
the
other
surrounding
TIF
districts,
which
are
further
north.
D
H
L
Madam
mayor
members
of
the
council,
again
this
is
a
public
hearing
to
have
testimony
provided
as
we
come
back
for
the
final
action,
we'll
make
sure
that
additional
information
is
provided
on
this
point,
including
the
memorandum
from
the
consultants,
so
I
knew
the
council's
asked
to
take
action
that
I'll
be
before
you.
Please.
A
D
M
E
From
a
standpoint
of
the
city,
in
addition
to
your
normal
powers
relating
to
both
zoning
and
other
entitlements
for
land
uses,
what
the
TIF
will
give
you
is
the
power
of
the
purse
in
terms
of
the
utilization
of
monies
that
are
general
potentially
generated
by
increases
in
value
over
the
base.
Those
dollars
are
not
only
controlled
by
the
city,
but
you're
required
to
spend
those
dollars
within
the
envelope
of
the
boundaries
of
that
area.
So
from
the
standpoint
of
utilization
or
negotiations
with
the
owner,
I
think
you
now
have
an
additional
tool.
E
You
have
the
ability
to
maybe
press
a
little
harder
on
certain
items.
Paul
and
Nick
both
mentioned.
You
know,
County
uses
or
users
that
the
city
might
want
to
see
there.
You
know
not
only
for
the
community,
but
you
know
overall,
long-term
viability.
Are
they
an
intersection?
The
TIF,
in
our
opinion,
gives
you
the
ability
to
add
on
to
what
you
normally
have
in
terms
of
your
planning
and
entitlement
in
terms
of
actual
incentive
dollars
to
force
the
issue
a
little
more
strongly.
M
E
From
the
city
itself,
if
we
start
from
more
of
the
micro
level,
you
know
Howard
Hartree,
TIFF,
basically
a
shopping
center,
that's
a
single-use
TIF
that
the
city
is
considered
over
the
years,
the
Southwest,
tifford
Oh,
a
little
bigger
and
maybe
four
or
five
different
uses.
They
were
part
of
the
Southwest
Tiffany
I
mean
some
of
your
other
TIF
districts
at
a
downtown
to
West.
E
Evanston
Howard
Ridge
are
larger,
multiple
uses
and
in
our,
if
we
go
more
to
a
macro
level,
I'd
say
about
40%
of
the
tips
that
our
company
works
on
are
related
to
single
type
uses.
And
again
you
know
it's
part
of
the
issue
of
what
works
I
mean
in
terms
of
policy.
What's
an
important
area
for
the
municipality,
how
tightly
do
you
want
to
focus
I'm?
One
thing
as
it
relates
to
the
single
use
above
the
multi-use
districts
is
your
focus,
is
a
lot
more
concentrated.
E
M
M
E
Know
it
is
not
that's
more
of
a
statutory
requirement.
The
TIF
Act
requires
the
city
as
part
of
its
plan,
not
only
to
identify
the
geographic
boundaries
which
you've
done
the
types
of
land-uses,
but
also
to
give
the
community,
as
well
as
the
taxing
districts.
Some
idea
of
what
the
maximum
exposure
might
be
over
to
determine
the
TIF
in
terms
of
items
that
the
city
might
spend
their
TIF
increment
on.
Any
amounts
that
are
to
be
spent
would
have
to
be
authorized
by
the
City
Council.
E
You
know
either
on
a
pay-as-you-go
basis
or
as
it
relates
to
either
development
or
public
improvements
or
other
infrastructure
needs
that
you
may
have
those
expenditures
all
have
to
be
approved
by
the
City
Council
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
In
the
event
that
you
are
not
able
to
identify
expenditures
or
not
have
obligations
to
which
to
put
those
monies
to
use.
You
are
required,
then,
to
declare
it
as
surplus
and
return
those
monies
back
to
the
annual
taxing
districts.
E
J
You
I
understand
that
the
statutory
elements
are
important
as
a
threshold
question,
but
I
guess
I
was
more
interested
in
understanding
and
seeing
I
guess
what
what
the
unique
problems
are
with
regard
to
this
Center
and
I.
Guess:
I
really
didn't
get
any
of
that
from
the
plan
and
I
guess
I'll
sort
of
pose.
That
question
is
what
do
you
see
is
the
unique
problems
that
have
plagued
this
Center
and
prevented
two
businesses
have
come
and
gone
and
they've
failed
for
a
reason
and
I
have
my
own
intuitive
thoughts
on
that.
E
Two
points
I
want
to
make
one.
The
plan
itself
was
meant
to
be
a
little
more
of
an
umbrella
or
broad-based
as
a
real,
because
it's
potentially
a
23
year
plan,
and
not
only
does
the
market
change,
but
life
could
change
as
it
relates
to
the
administration
of
the
program.
So,
from
a
standpoint
of
being
more
specific
in
the
plan
as
to
let's
say,
we
didn't
put
things
in
there
like
you're,
going
to
look
at
20,000
square
feet
of
reuse
for
the
Northeast
Center,
for
example,
or
you
know
the
budget
purposely
and
the
land
uses.
E
We're
kept
somewhat
brought
to
give
you
the
flexibility,
as
it
relates
to
proposals
that
come
into
the
City
Council
and
to
staff
on
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
So
your
preservation
is
corrected
that
the
plan
is
purposely
broad
and
part
of
it
has
to
do
with
flexibility,
given
the
fact
that
the
time
potential
time
period
in
which
the
TIF
could
be
in
place
and
to
allow
for
different
development
proposals
that
either
may
shift
with
the
market
or
what
the
city
requirements
are
for
their
property,
which
not
all
are
known
at
this
time.
E
In
terms
of
some
of
our
analysis
is
what
we
see
is
some
of
the
unique
features
and
Wyatt.
If
could
be
important,
you
know
you
know.
First,
we
looked
at
we're
numbers
guys
looked
at
the
the
valuation
I
mean
in
the
valuation
you
know
has
declined
here
suffered
and
part
of
it
has
to
do
what
I
think
two
of
the
factors
relating
to
both
the
you
know
the
the
functional
obsolescence
of
the
center,
based
in
part
on
its
original
design
and
in
part
on
them.
E
You
know
either
because
of
the
fact
they
think
the
markets
untested
or
they
believe
they
need
a
little
bit
of
a
cushion.
Let's
say
for
the
first
four
or
five
years
until
the
labor
to
make
until
they
can
make
a
go
of
it.
That's
where
TIF
can
potentially
be
in
a
way
to
assist
those
kind
of
projects
in
a
market.
J
E
I'm
interpreting
you
could
and
again-
and
the
hope
would
be-
and
you've
done
in
terms
of
your
analysis
or
our
assistance
to
the
city
in
the
past
is
there's
always
been
a
careful
tightrope.
You've
walked
in
terms
of
making
sure
the
project
can't
pay
for
itself
identifying
that
there
is
some
public
benefit
or
public
improvements
that
are
tied
to
it,
that
it's
not
just
a
repayment,
as
it
relates
to
the
dollars
and
cents,
but
there's
also
some
other
public
benefit
associated
with
with
the
city,
investment
and.
J
E
Yes
and
no
yeah
again,
we
have
the
ability
to
be
more
focused
here,
because
it
is
a
single
parcel
and
given
the
fact
that
the
base
is
lowered
over
the
years
in
terms
of
what
the
potential
could
be
based
on,
let's
say
when
it's
fully
occupied
the
ability
to
tap
into
some
significant
increment
could
also
be
you
know
very
good
as
it
relates
to
generating
new
tax
dollars.
The.
J
The
West
Evanston
TIF
I'll-
just
be
blunt,
honest
I.
Think
people
don't
like
to
go
to
that
shopping
center
because
it's
an
uncomfortable
neighborhood,
because
the
way
dodge
looks
because
of
the
way
the
other
surrounding
areas
look
and
unfortunately,
the
West
Evanston
TIF
hasn't
changed
that
look.
This
shopping
center
is
the
best
looking
of
the
three
corners
and
I
guess
what
I'm,
having
a
problem
with
is
I,
don't
see
how
this
is
gonna
fix
the
other
three
corners
and
it's
it's
a
somewhat
rhetorical
question.
So
I
don't
expect
an
answer
from
you
so
anyway.
I
I
Then
I
think
you
would
see
a
huge
change.
I
just
wanted
to
comment
on
the
increment
one
of
the
most
exciting
things
about
this
is
that
there
is
a
possibility
that
this
shopping
center,
that
this
TIF
could
generate
twenty
million
dollars
in
incremental
taxes,
which
means
over
the
base
of
what
they're
paying.
Now
we
could
see
an
additional
twenty
million
dollars
over
this
period
of
time.
I
I,
don't
know
what
else
could
be
a
better
measure
of
success
than
an
additional
twenty
million
dollars.
I
So
there
is
nothing
to
lose
by
doing
this
because
we're
not
getting
any
increment
now,
because
in
fact
the
base
is
slipping.
Let's
get
it
while
it's
down
I
mean
the
the
only
good
thing
about
about
the
assessments
being
down
is
that
the
increment
will
be
greater,
which
is
exactly
the
reason
why
we
didn't
include
this
originally
in
the
other
tip.
So
you
know,
I
I,
think
that
you
just
can't
lose
when
we're
not
reaching
into
our
pocket.
I
We're
saying:
look:
Shopping
Center,
it's
up
to
you
you're,
either
going
to
generate
this
increment
and
we're
going
to
plow
it
back
into
making
you
more
successful
or
not.
Why
not,
and
so
I
I
really
encourage
us
to
support
this
another
thing
about
the
infrastructure.
When
you
have
adjacent
tax,
increment
financing
districts,
you
can
share.
Can
you
not
yes.
E
E
I
I,
just
don't
see
that
in
this
case
that
we
have
much
much
to
lose
and
only
things
to
gain
and
one
of
the
one
of
the
very
definite
things
you
can
do
with
an
increment
in
an
area
like
this
is
demolition,
I
mean
and
so
I
mean
I,
see.
Some
of
that
frank
space
I
see
is
probably
ultimately
being
demolished
because
there's
so
much
vacant
space
behind
there
I
don't
know
if
that'll
ever
happen,
but
it
would
be
possible
with.
A
N
Braithwaite,
thank
you
thank
you,
and,
and
thank
you
all
for
the
report.
First
of
all,
I
agree
with
alderman
Rainey
statements,
and
so
thank
you
very
much
for
that.
I,
don't
see
the
downside
to
creating
this
TIF
I
would
have
to
disagree
with
alderman
Wilson
statements
in
terms
of
the
shopping
center
not
being
attractive.
I
will
admit
that
there
are
a
number
of
vacancies
there,
but
it
is
widely
used
by
many
residents
to
Dominic's
is
widely
used
by
many
residents.
Dance.
N
N
I
will
ask
Paul's
alum
Zach
from
economic
development
to
just
speak
briefly
to
the
short
term
in
long
term,
benefits
of
the
TIF
like
I,
think
you
addressed
it
very
well.
In
the
beginning
of
your
presentation,
our
goal
is
to
get
stores
in
there
they're
gonna,
for
myself
and
olive
in
homes,
in
what
we
would
like
to
see
for
the
west
side
of
Evanston
deftly
jobs
and
in
addition
to
that
registers
that
are
going
to
add
to
the
general
general
budget.
G
Yeah,
thank
you
all
so
so
conceptually
we
have.
We
have
an
immediate
need
which
is
to
address
the
the
vacancies
and
how
we
do
that
is
and,
and
and
I
believe
that
this
this
particular
property
owner
will
have
success
in
attracting
retailers
to
this
site.
You
know
our
incentives
would
be
in
place
and
we
again
we
haven't
negotiated
anything.
Yet
the
incentive
will
be
put
in
place
to
really
elevate
or
to
get
a
retailer,
that's
kind
of
above
what
one
might
expect
in
the
short
term,
and
what
that
means
is.
G
Do
we
help
a
little
bit
with
build-out?
Maybe
we
don't
know
yet.
Is
there
some
need
from
the
developer
to
enter
into
a
long
term
lease
where
he
has
to
do
some
extensive
concessions
where
we
could
help
with
that?
That's
a
potential
use
of
it.
If
so,
the
the
immediate
short-term
in
terms
of
getting
the
the
occupancy
levels
back
up.
That's
our
immediate
need.
We
need
sales
tax
generated
and
the
real
again.
The
primary
focus
of
the
tip
is
to
generate
property
tax.
G
So
longer-term
and
I
don't
have
the
10
or
15-year
crystal
ball,
but
conceptually
you
could
imagine
that,
just
as
its
predecessor
use
was
a
metal
plating
company
as
I
understand
the
history
and
that
use
became
obsolete.
Perhaps
this
shopping
center
use
becomes
obsolete
and
what
we've
heard
from
the
developer
himself
is
that
the
shopping
center
is
in
a
size
range
that
puts
it
in
a
kind
of
between
err
state.
It's
a
250,000
square
foot
shopping
center
roughly
and
it
serves
a
community
shopping
center
kind
of
roll
and
a
community
shopping
center.
G
Roll
is
usually
an
in
the
range
of
a
hundred
thousand
one
hundred
fifty
thousand
square
feet
so
that
addresses
addresses
some
of
the
obsolescence
issues.
So
imagine
a
day,
ten
or
fifteen
years
from
now
where
there
is
some
other
use
for
this
site
and
touching
out
what
alderman
Rania's
suggested.
If
you
could
use
some
of
the
money
for
demolition-
and
you
rebuild
something
else,
I
mean
this
is
conceptual,
but
we
really
do
need
to
focus
on
the
short
term,
which
is
what
we
know
we
have.
We
need
to
fill
it
up.
C
C
O
I
just
wanted
to
come
in
on
in
terms
of
the
use
of
the
chapping
Center
I,
think
the
staff
has
done
a
fantastic
job
of
presenting
the
TIF,
but
for
those
of
us
who
remember
from
the
beginning
of
the
usage
of
the
shopping
center
and
I
hope,
our
staff
will
guide
the
new
owner
in
terms
of
you
can't
you
just
can't
have
anything.
You
have
things
that
people
want
to
visit
those
things
that
people
enjoy.
Those
folks
are
still
there.
O
A
lot
of
people
are
still
there
and
I
think
people
will
come
if
you're,
something
that
attracts
them.
I,
don't
I,
know
that
even
the
other
three
corners
are
the
other
two
corners
I,
don't
count
the
one
on
the
north
on
the
south
east
side,
but
McDonald's
and
Burger
King
I
mean
they've,
been
doing
fantastic
business
all
along
because
people
like
to
go
there,
whether
it's
good
for
you
or
not,
but
they
still
like
to
go,
but
inside
the
shopping
center.
O
If
we
can
remember,
I
think
it
even
was
brought
before
our
Economic
Development
Committee,
and
this
was
before
we
got
this
new
crackerjack
staff
that
we
have
now
when
curves
wanted
to
stay,
but
couldn't
because
they
couldn't
afford
to
pay
the
rent
and
there
was
no
give
or
take.
You
know
in
terms
of
the
kinds
of
things
that
the
previous
owner
was
not
willing
to
sit
down
and
and
talk
to
him.
O
D
D
D
D
D
Think
you
said
that
the
developer
could
use
TIF
dollars
to
offset
how
much
they
could
charge
for
tenants
coming
in
I'm,
not
sure
that
I
actually
found
that
in
in
what's
required
legally
under
TIF
I
in
my
previous
life
was
on
a
TIF
Commission
many
years
ago,
but
I
didn't
think
that
was
part
of
eligible
require
uses
for
the
TIF
and
then
mr.
Zell
mezack.
D
You
made
a
comment
that
you
were
confident
that
this
developer
could
attract
tenants
when
the
other
other
developer
couldn't
and
I
was
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
share
with
us
what
evidence
you
you
find
in
that
I
I'm,
just
really
skeptical
about
putting
a
TIF
on
a
parcel.
That's
already
developed
when
really
what
this
is
about
is
about
commercial
developer.
D
Really
marketing
I'm
not
sure
why
we're
taking
on
this
burden
when
they
just
need
to
find
better
tenants,
I'm,
not
sure
that
having
a
TIF
is
going
to
create
an
atmosphere
to
bring
in
more
tenants
or
better
tenants
or
the
tenants
we
want.
I
am
Pro
TIF.
Overall,
I'm
for
redevelopment
of
areas
that
haven't
been
developed.
I
just
don't
see
how
this
works
here
really
effectively
and
I
would
like
to
once
again
go
back
to
alder
and
Grover's
original
question
of.
Where
has
TIF
been
used
like
this
I?
E
From
that
well,
two
things:
let's
go
to
the
question
about
the
differential,
and
you
know
we
talked
about
writing
down
on
the
rent.
I
mean
you're
right.
Our
rent
rate
down
is
not
an
eligible
cost.
You
you
really
have
to
tight.
You
really
have
to
tie
that
to
an
eligible
cost.
For
example,
if
a
$2.00
savings
in
rent,
you
would
translate
that
to
if
it's
a
20,000
foot
space,
you
would
translate
that
to
40,000
dollars,
two
dollars
times
twenty
thousand
dollars
of
rehab
work,
which
is
an
eligible
cost.
E
So
you
would
basically
tie
the
ability
to
use
stiff
money
to
pay
for
something
that
would
be
whether
it
was
again.
We
was
talking
earlier
about
some
of
the
spaces
being
a
little
too
deep
or
a
little
too
narrow
it
would
allow
for
or
for
cutting
spaces
up,
let's
say,
and
rather
than
pass
those
dollars
directly
on
the
rent
which
may
make
it
uncompetitive
or
not.
Competitive
you'd
have
the
ability
at
a
TIF
to
pay
for
a
portion
of
that
rehab
or
offset
a
portion
of
that
rehab.
So
you
do
you're
right.
E
You
do
have
to
tie
it
to
an
eligible
cost,
but
and
again,
but
usually
the
way
these
things
work,
the
tenant
and
the
owner
are
going
to
look
at
rents.
In
terms
of
you
know,
can
the
tenant
pay?
It
is
the
rent
that
the
owner
receives
sufficient.
You
know
for
their
return,
but
then
you
would
have
to
do
the
translation
in
the
middle
to
say.
E
D
E
You're,
correct
I
mean
we
stand
corrected,
I
mean.
But
again
you
know
what
you
would
do
is
have
to
tie
to
an
eligible
cost
and
as
to
the
second
question,
related
to
you're
talking
about
redevelopment
uses
in
terms
of
properties
and
again,
if
it's
basically
not
just
in
evidence,
then
I
could
point
to
a
couple.
We
worked
on
in
Skokie
and
Niles,
where
it
was
the
old
AT&T
buildings,
Julian
carpenter,
which
basically
were
existing
buildings.
They
were
industrial
and
portions
were
reused
for
commercial,
so
basically
the
TIF.
What
it
did
was
reuse.
E
D
D
I
thought
you
know
our
money
system
building
existing,
so
you're,
not
changing
the
use
here
at
all
you're,
not
really
improving
the
infrastructure.
Unless
you're
moving
you're
making
the
building
shorter,
you
may
be
doing
a
little
bit
better
with
delivery,
but
you're
not
overall
changing
the
function
of
the
the
shopping
center.
That's
what
I'm
asking.
G
Aldermen
that
in
the
short
term,
that's
that's
correct,
I
mean
there's,
that's
the
shopping
center
is
a
retail
commercial
strip
and
that's
what
it
is
and
I
think
in
these
other
examples
it's
I
mean
it's
fact
that
they
were
some
other
use
before
and
that
and
that's
where
all
their
braithwaite's
question
earlier,
I
think
it's
kind
of
relevant.
Is
you
know
what
could
this
be
later
in
life?
I
mean
in
the
short
term.
G
Yes,
we
do
contemplate
and
again
we
have
to
negotiate
with
your
approval,
your
your
consent,
any
deals
we
potentially
would
do
with
them.
One
thing
that
the
consultants
didn't
didn't
touch
on
was
the
the
budget
itself
and
it's
a
small
percentage
of
the
the
budget
is
at
least
committed
or
plan
for
rehab
of
existing
structures.
There's
a
lot
of
other
line
items
on
the
budget.
I
I
These
small
users,
who
are
very
very
desirable
and
long-term
users,
can
avoid
some
of
that
burden
because
that
that's
huge
at
the
end
of
the
year
of
$10,000
additional
cam
expenditure
is
outrageous
when
they're
paying
cam
every
month,
so
I
just
don't
see
how
we
can
how
we
can
lose
on
this,
whether
or
not
there's
an
identical
example
to
this
kind
of
TIF
and
I'm.
Sure
there
are
many
of
them,
we
don't.
We
don't
tend
to
make
big
mistakes
with
our
Tiff's.
We
haven't.
I
J
This
is
a
nice
shopping
center
to
me,
the
businesses
that
are
there
I'm
there
almost
on
a
daily
basis.
My
daughter
dances
there
three
times
a
week,
I
can't
live
without
penny
knows
and
I'm,
always
at
the
Dominic's.
You
know,
then
the
cashiers
know
me
my
name
as
do
the
penny
knows
people.
So
when
I
made
my
comment
about
people
being
uncomfortable
going
to
the
shopping
center,
that's
not
me.
This
is
this.
Is
my
neighborhood?
J
It's
not
my
ward,
but
this
is
my
neighborhood
and
these
are
places
that
I
frequent
on
an
extremely
regular
basis
and
over
the
past.
However,
many
years
it's
been
very
frustrating
to
me
and
and
to
my
neighbors
too,
to
see
the
lack
of
action
and
in
the
in
the
West
Evanston
TIF
area
and
in
the
shopping
center
and
I
guess
what
frustrates
me
is
that
I
don't
view
this
as
a
I.
J
Don't
view
this
as
a
plan,
because
it's
not
a
plan,
it's
it's
a
it's
a
possible
tool
and
I
think
what
I
was
hoping
for
and
I
think
what
other
people
are
hoping
for
is
to
see
what
the
plan
is
or
just
a
general
sense
of
what
the
plan
is
and
mitai.
My
that's
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
not
comfortable
with
so
I'm,
hoping
that
we
can
devise
a
more
cohesive
plan.
J
It
looks
bad,
it
looks
really
bad
and
there
are
people
in
other
parts
of
Evanston,
because,
if
I'm
out
at
the
ball
game
or
whatever
I'm
talking
to
my
friends,
I'm
talking
to
neighbors
who
don't
live
in
my
neighborhood
I
get
comments
on
a
regular
basis
about
that
area
and
I'm,
tired
of
it,
because
I
have
never
felt
uncomfortable
or
threatened
in
that
shopping
center.
I've
never
had
a
problem.
I've
been
a
robbed
at
gunpoint
at
a
metro
station,
but
I've
never
had
a
problem
at
this
shopping
center
at
all
and
I.
J
Think
it's
unfairly
portrayed
as
an
uncomfortable
location.
I
have
some
reservations
about
some
of
the
stuff.
That's
going
on
there
now,
there's
a
there's,
a
security
vehicle
with
sirens
on
that
seems
like
it's
constantly
running
around
again.
That
creates
I,
think
maybe
a
negative
perception
as
far
as
you
know,
whether
it's
safe
or
not,
but
perception
of
the
shopping
center
is
an
ague.
Is
an
important
component
here
and
I.
Think
that
that's
being
completely
overlooked
and
I
think
the
surrounding
neighborhood
is
also
being
overlooked.
G
It's
just
just
a
brief
response
to
alderman
Wilson
yeah.
It's
unfortunate
that
the
TIF
statute
has
kind
of
technical
nature
to
it
and
it
when
it
comes
to
the
plan
itself,
but
as
one
of
the
eligible
costs
with
the
TIF
is
actual
community
plan.
So
we
you
know
we
could.
We
could
do
that
with
with
TIF
increment.
You
know,
and
and
our
economic
development
staff
is
really
highly
focused
on
on
the
west
side,
between
being
engaged
with
the
West
Village
West
End,
the
shopping,
the
shopping
center
management
itself.
A
N
I
do
appreciate
the
the
conversation
I
just
want
to
go
back
to
a
couple
of
things
that
were
said
first
regarding
a
Scott
and
binder
I've
had
an
opportunity
to
meet
with
him.
I
know
that
he's
been
very
cooperative
with
meeting
with
both
the
city
manager
and
also
our
Office
of
Economic
Development,
of
some
of
the
issues
that
he's
inherited.
Yes,
high
rent
we've
talked
about
the
care
of
the
location.
We've
talked
about
the
lack
of
security
to
Ottoman
Wilson's,
point
I.
Think
if
you
look
around
town,
it
is
standard.
N
N
Leadership
Evanston
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
hosted
a
community
meeting
where
they're
taking
a
poll
right
now
that
we
have
over
only
close
to
200
residents
that
have
provided
feedback
to
the
small
I.
Guess
my
point
in
bringing
this
all
up
that
I.
Don't
just
think
it's
it's!
It's
a
retail
space
for
it's.
N
The
second
ward
I
mean
it's
it's
a
retail
space
for
Evanston,
and
so
when
I
look
at
the
disparity
when
I
look
at
the
vacancy
I'm,
so
thankful
that
we're
using
this
tool
as
TIF
and
I
think
Altman
Rainey's
made
this
comment
months
ago.
We
do
an
excellent
job
here
in
Evanston,
utilizing
TIF
as
a
tool.
This
isn't
the
first
time
that
we're
doing
this
and
so
I
guess
where
my
concern
is
I.
A
A
P
You,
madam
mayor
and
understood,
I
infinitely,
but
this
isn't
the
nature
of
a
hearing.
I'll
try
and
keep
it
to
fact,
rather
than
an
opinion,
Jeff
Smith,
27,
24
Harrison
I'm,
currently
in
the
22nd
year
of
my
most
recent
stint
in
Evanston
27
years,
totaled
over
35
in
the
area
I'm
a
former
customer
of
some
of
the
departed
Shops
at
Evanston
Plaza,
but
I've
been
going
to
them
since
well,
I'll
date,
myself.
P
For
decades,
we
used
to
go
to
Frank's
a
lot
twice
or
us,
kids
or
us
people
may
remember
he
used
to
be
there
and
was
a
good
place
to
get
clothes.
If
you
talked
about
a
food
desert,
Rogers
Park
was
kind
of
a
commercial
desert.
At
that
point,
people
came
up
to
Evanston
to
shop.
I've
also
worked
with
several
entities
that
considered
renting
at
dempster
and
dodge,
including
some
not-for-profit
organizations
I'm
opposed
to
a
one
parcel
one
property
owner
TIFF
at
this
location,
with
a
budget
of
almost
$900,000
a
year
over
the
next
two
decades.
P
That's
in
part,
because
I'm,
not
a
big
fan
of
the
tool,
I
believe
that
TIF
has
been
successfully
used
on.
Unquestionably,
at
Howard
Hartree,
very
arguably,
the
first
Washington
national
I
think
it's
overused
in
Illinois,
Cook,
County
generally
and
to
some
extent
in
Evanston.
It's
a
top-down
development
tool
for
some
districts.
It
deprives
them
of
revenue
for
non
tax
cap
districts.
The
rates
of
tax
payers
outside
the
district
rise
as
the
overall
EAV
is
divided
in
two,
but
the
increment
from
the
district
isn't
included.
P
I
disagree
that
we
should
look
at
the
short
term,
because
we're
locking
away
for
potentially
up
to
23
years
up
to
two-thirds
of
the
potential
equalised
assessed
value
of
this
property.
That's
an
awful
lot
to
lock
away
for
that
long
and
the
the
current
investors
have
already
gotten
a
couple:
big
breaks,
which
I'll
go
into
the
history
of
that
and
I.
Don't
think
that
the
requirements
for
the
overused
instrument
of
tax
increment
financing
have
been
met
in
in
this
instance,
the
property
was
bought
by
Joseph
Frieden
associates
in
1998.
P
In
the
loop
there
was,
along
with
the
residential
real
estate
bubble
in
America,
a
commercial
real
estate
bubble,
which
hasn't
been
talked
about
as
much
LaSalle
was
bought
by
Bank
of
America
as
part
of
that
shakeout
Bank
of
America
proceeded
to
foreclose,
not
only
on
Evanston
Plaza,
but
properties
all
around
the
country,
including
many
that
freed
owned,
and
they
bought
this
property
for
about
twelve
point:
three
million.
According
to
public
records,
there
were
unpaid,
real
estate
taxes
and
was
sold
at
great
discount
to
the
current
investment
group
for
about
8.1
million.
P
So
they
bought
it
last
year
for
not
much
more
and
certainly
less
after
inflation
than
it
sold
changed
hands
for
in
1998,
but
they
have
meanwhile
appealed
the
taxes.
The
first
pass
for
2012
was
over
7
million,
but
they
got
it
down
to
two
point:
three
point:
five:
three
million:
that's
a
66
percent
tax
break
I!
Don't
know
how
many
of
you
have
appealed
your
taxes
and
got
your
assessment
cut
by
two-thirds
I
suspect
not
too
many.
P
So
there's
a
break
on
the
price
and
it's
already
of
a
break
on
the
taxes
and
it's
reducing
it
to
well
below
the
point
where
we
would
get
the
benefit
of
even
the
normal
background
rise
in
in
in
value
there's.
So
six
so-called
qualifications
factors
that
have
been
found,
but
several
of
them
are
duplicative
and
many
of
them
relate
back
to
vacancy
as
a
longtime
patron
of
them
all
I,
don't
think,
there's
any
problem
with
ingress
or
egress.
The
interior
build-out
really
isn't
significantly
different
than
any
other
tenant
faces
anywhere.
P
The
Frank
space
has
have
been.
You
know
there
was
really
only
two
medium
box
tenants
and
one
of
them
is
still
a
big
big
box
there.
The
remediation
issues
are
irrelevant
if
you're
not
going
to
put
residential
on
this
space,
because
the
property
only
changed
hands
in
1998
on
condition.
That
freed
was
going
to
get
a
remediation
letter
from
the
eye,
EPA
and
so
you've
got
arsenic,
lead,
etc.
That
are
underneath
the
existing
stores
they
think,
but
unless
you're
gonna
bulldoze
it
up
and
start
putting
condos
with
new
foundations
in
there.
P
It's
that's
really
not
an
issue.
The
obsolescence.
If
anything
is
just
due
to
the
fact
that
there's
challenges
facing
auto
oriented
malls
everywhere,
but
these
problems,
the
problems
at
the
mall-
aren't
those
that
are
you're
gonna
address
through
a
tax
increment
financing
district.
The
problems
that
have
been
identified
with
the
wall
relate
to
size.
It's
a
lot
of
national
tenants
like
to
be
in
more
of
a
regional
location.
That's
an
a
location
issue.
That's
got
in
vine
hezid
as
identified
it's
viewed
as
too
small
by
some
chains
and
too
small
by
some
local
businesses.
P
Again,
this
is
what
the
developers
have
said.
There's
the
perception
of
crime
and
I
agree
with
the
statements
that
have
been
made.
I've
never
felt
unsafe.
There
there's
a
restrictive
Dominik's
lease
which
Ben
as
a
barrier
to
some
tenants.
There's
been
excessive
common
area,
maintenance
fees
and
there's
been
a
recession,
but
a
tip
isn't
going
to
take
care
of
any
of
those.
The
eav
Rose
lasts
faster
last
year
than
the
city
as
a
whole.
P
There
was
a
big
drop
previously
because
of
the
of
the
vacancies,
but
we
were
told
when
this
was
bought,
that
it
that
it
represents
an
urban
dense
market
with
a
great
deal
of
opportunity.
Therefore,
I
don't
think
it's
it's
blighted
and
while
we
probably
won't
lose
money
by
doing
this,
some
districts
might
it
fails
the
but-for
test,
because
a
you're
probably
going
to
get
more
taxes,
no
matter
what's
done,
assuming
the
developers
say
they
are
going
to
do
say,
do
what
they
say,
they're
going
to
do
when
when
they
bought
it.
P
Meanwhile
we're
making
a
23-year
commitment
in
reaction
to
largely
recessionary
factors
that,
while
severe
in
historical
terms,
is
only
a
recent
duration
and
it
isn't
supposed
to
be
permanent.
The
vacant
storefronts
that
evanston
Plaza
looked
just
like
the
vacant
storefronts
in
the
mall
south
of
the
CTA
station
at
Howard.
P
If
you
drive
through
there
and
I
remember
when
that
was
just
a
glimmer
in
developers
and
politicians
eyes
that
was
Tift
and
you
can
tip
all
you
want
and
you
can
build
all
you
want,
but
unless
you
adjust
to
market
and
let
the
market
work,
some
of
what
markets
are
supposed
to
do.
It's
is
it's
not
going
to
happen.
Meanwhile,
there's
no
question
that
it
will
have
an
impact
on
other
tax
payers,
so
I'd
urge
the
council
to
look
very
carefully
at
this
to
explore
other
tools.
P
It
there's
not
many
areas
in
Evanston
where
you
would
build
something
that
looks
like
the
Glen,
but
this
might
be
a
place
where
you
have
a
mini
multi-use,
Glen
type
area.
The
obsolescence
may
be
an
auto
oriented
strip
malls.
This
area
may
be
saturated
with
them,
and
Evanston
keeps
on
making
it
more
difficult
to
drive
around
the
city.
So
let's
not
pump
air
into
a
collapsed
shopping
center
bubble
must
be
very
careful
in
considering
the
use
of
this
tool
and
take
the
long-term
view
rather
than
a
short-term
reaction.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
O
J
A
A
It
is
national
preservation
month,
older
Americans
month
and
National
Police
week
and
I
would
like
to
extend
my
sympathies
to
the
family
of
John
Wyatt,
who
was
the
sixth
Ward
Alderman
for
12
years
in
the
60s
and
70s
he
was
the
founder
of
the
Rotary
Club
of
the
Evanston
lighthouse
and
he
was
I,
hear
an
excellent
bridge
player
at
the
levee
Center,
so
I'm
very
sorry
and
wish
his
family
all
the
best
city
manager.
Do
you
have
public
announcements?
Yes,.
L
Ma'am
mayor,
just
to
first
of
all
on
Friday
morning,
we
have
a
economic
development
summit,
talk
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
issues
we've
talked
about
this
evening
as
well
as
others.
If
you
not
already
signed
up
for
the
summit,
you
can
go
to
our
web,
say
city
of
Evanston
org,
and
do
that
we're
well
over
a
hundred
people.
L
We
decide
to
move
the
activities
down
to
the
second
floor
here
rather
than
at
the
parasol
room,
because
quite
honest
I
think
we've
outgrown
the
parasol
room
with
the
number
of
folks
that
that
are
doing
that.
So
we
look
forward
to
seeing
everyone
here
on
Friday
morning,
Lieber
started
at
8:30
and
go
will
be
done
a
little
for
noon,
so
that
is
happening
on
Friday.
Then
on
Saturday,
a
Katherine
Hurley.
Our
sustainable
programs.
L
B
A
P
I'll,
keep
it
brief
err.
This
is
regarding
the
resolution
in
favor
of
overturning
Citizens
United,
which
comes
out
of
the
Rules
Committee
and
I
favor.
The
spirit
of
the
resolution,
I
emailed
I,
believe
most
of
the
members
of
the
council
I
try
to
email.
All
of
you.
I
support
a
resolution
like
this,
but
I
would
delete
in
particular
at
the
language.
That's
that
the
Constitution
only
applies
to
natural
persons.
P
I
think
if
we
said
that
the
second
Baptist
Church
doesn't
enjoy
the
freedom
of
religion
or
that
evanston
round
table
or
Evanston
out
don't
enjoy
the
privileges
of
the
First
Amendment,
we
would
be
mistaken.
We
don't
want
to
be
on
record.
I
think
is
urging
any
of
those
outcomes.
We
don't
want
Evanston
Community
Foundation
to
be
subject
to
work,
search
without
warrant,
so
I
would
modify
that
and
limit
the
resolution
to
Senate
joint
resolution
I
believe
it's
29,
which
was
introduced
by
Senator
Udall
and
Senator
Durbin
and
six
other
well,
originally,
five
other
senators.
P
Now
it's
up
to
21
co-sponsors
in
the
Senate.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration,
of
that
and
Evanston
would
be
a
leader
in
Illinois
if,
if
they
did
at
four
or
five
other
states,
and
at
least
a
hundred
other
municipalities
are
in
record
as
urging
the
overturn
of
Citizens
United
for
the
reasons
set
forth
and
they
explained
in
the
Rules
Committee
Thanks.
P
A
K
Eliott
sation
seven
one
five
Asbury
Avenue,
madam
mayor
members
of
the
council,
I
command
the
Rules
Committee
for
proposing
that
the
council
pass
a
resolution
to
reverse
the
Citizens
United
decision.
As
you
probably
know
from
all
the
we're
asses
that
the
that
decision
has
allowed
corporations
to
spend
unlimited
amounts
of
money
in
our
elections
on
behalf
of
candidates
and
we've
already
seen
a
flood
of
funds
into
the
electoral
process.
K
Although
these
expenditures
are
not
made
in
exchange
for
specific
decisions
by
office
holders,
it's
reasonable
to
suspect
that
the
judgment
of
office
holders
and
would-be
office
holders
is
swayed
by
these
funds,
especially
when
the
sums
are
as
large
as
they
have
recently
become.
Corporate
donations
are
made
with
the
intent
of
protecting
corporate
interests,
not
the
interests
of
the
average
voters.
As
a
result,
average
citizens
are
losing
control
over
the
electoral
process
that
is
supposed
to
guarantee
that
office
holders
legislate
to
promote
the
interests
of
the
great
majority
of
American.
K
Gradually
many
Americans
are
realizing
that
the
Citizens
United
decision
is
having
a
pernicious,
pernicious,
pernicious
effect
on
American
politics,
and
what
can
be
done
about
that?
One
major
effort
has
been
to
convince
local
governments
to
endorse
resolutions
favoring
a
reversal
of
Citizens
United
many
citizens,
cities
and
towns
have
already
done
this
frequently
when
these
kinds
of
resolutions
come
before
the
council
and
other
local
councils.
K
Opponents
will
say
this
is
not
an
appropriate
subject
for
our
local
representatives
and
I
would
assert
that
the
integrity
of
our
national
and
state
elections
definitely
affects
the
matters
with
which
our
local
representatives
must
deal.
The
capacity
of
our
local
government
to
deal
with
public
needs
that
are
part
of
its
responsibility
is
heavily
impacted
by
what
our
state
and
national
administrations
are
doing,
or
failing
to
do
so
to
suggest
that
somehow
local
matters
should
be
kept
separate
from
state
and
national
politics
is
to
make
an
artificial
distinction.
K
I
would
assert
that
is
proper
and
urgent
that
our
local
officials
lend
their
supports
to
efforts
to
make
average
Americans
aware
of
the
deleterious
effects
of
on
corporate
contributions
to
our
politics.
How
these
change
will
come
about.
It's
not
clear
whether
the
constitutional
amendment
will
ever
be
completed
as
Jeff
points
out
the
language.
There
are
many
different
versions:
I,
don't
think.
That's
a
real
issue:
the
real
issue
is
that
we
need
to
have
a
change
in
the
way
our
elections
are
funded.
K
We
need
to
have
money
taken
out
of
politics
and
without
constant
and
frequent
voicing
of
this
opinion,
our
elected
officials
at
the
state
and
federal
level
will
not
make
changes.
So
therefore,
I
urge
the
council
to
add
their
voice
to
the
other
towns
and
cities
that
are
doing
this
to
support
this
general
movement
to
see
corporate
money
on
the
scale
it's
reaching
taken
out
of
our
politics
thanks
very
much.
Thank.
A
Q
Good
evening
Council,
we
really
appreciate
have
an
opportunity
to
be
here
we're
here
on
behalf
of
2424
Dempster,
the
Chicago
home
and
chicken
and
waffles
project.
This
is
my
wife,
the
actual
owner
I
think
she
hasn't
been
seen
before,
but
this
is
Tonya
Johnson,
the
main
principle
behind
the
project.
We
just
like
to
say
it's
a
privilege
and
honor
of
being
a
part
of
Everson
and
hoping
that
we
will
actually
be
approved
and
have
this
project
actually
materialized,
just
want
to
say
one
thing:
real
quick.
Q
We
had
the
opportunity
to
have
Don
Don
Thompson,
who
is
presently
the
president
of
North
America
for
McDonald's
visit
us
twice.
He
had
a
chance
to
really
have
in-depth
dialogue
with
myself
in
my
wife
and
tell
us
how
he
felt
about
the
project
and
to
inform
us
in
June.
He
will
be
the
new
CEO
of
McDonald's.
Q
Q
Q
The
CEO
said
there
will
not
be
any
more
projects
for
the
next
couple
years.
Well,
now
that
Don
Thompson
will
become
the
new
CEO,
we
do
feel
and
I
think
you
can
agree
that
he
is
looking
at
this
everson
project
very
closely.
So
I
just
like
to
reassure
you
we're
going
to
do
everything
in
our
power
to
make
this
project
a
unbelievably
great
success
and
have
ever
said
very
proud
of
what
we're
going
to
put
on
that
arm
in
the
corner
of
the
city.
Q
R
Madam
mayor
members
of
the
council,
I'll
keep
this
very
brief
I.
Just
my
comments
related
to
my
name,
sorry,
my
name
is
Nikolai.
Larval
I
live
at
26,
27
Lincoln
would
drive.
My
Calvin
is
related
to
our
request
from
major
zoning
relief,
specifically
parking
in
the
required
parking
in
front.
We
live
on
a
lot
small
lot,
that's
smaller
than
the
standard
r1.
R
It's
a
corner
lot
with
no
alley
access
and
we
do
not
have
a
good
alternative
for
parking.
Our
current
garage
is
not
really
usable
for
parking,
a
modern
car
and
we're
looking
to
convert
that
space
to
living
space
so
that
we
have
room
for
our
family
of
five
we've
lived
here
for
11
years.
We
love
the
neighborhood.
We
feel
that
our
project
will
preserve
the
character
of
the
neighborhood,
where
we're
working
very
hard
at
keeping
that
continuity
with
our
current
structure
and
the
neighborhood,
and
we
just
request
your
consideration
of
our
variance.
Thank
you.
Thank.
S
Padma
ow
2:246
Sherman.
My
comments
were
approved
by
my
attorney.
Your
current
bills
list
shows
that
you
paid
over
$1,500
to
Michael
Kasper
for
legal
services,
presumably
for
representing
the
township.
Yet
you
stiffed
attorney
Polly
knees
most
recent
legal
bill,
even
though
he
represented
the
township
on
and
off
for
over
20
years.
S
It
is
submitted
that
you
should
either
pay
both
attorneys
or
neither
at
your
April
30th
meeting
I
asserted
my
legal
right
to
opt
out
of
your
electricity
aggregation
scheme
and
make
my
own
contract
decision,
as
suggested
by
the
Evanston
Sentinel
I
asked
to
legally
record
my
choice,
not
to
debate.
Why
you
disagree.
It
is
submitted
that
public
officials
should
not
interfere
when
tax
payers
state
their
views
and
decisions.
This
counsel
claims
to
have
closed
jurisdiction
on
key
issues
that
face
the
community.
First,
at
your
April
10th
meeting.
S
Your
first
word
member
said
that
the
candle
property
is
presently
in
closed-door
negotiations
between
the
city
and
Cambridge
Holmes,
at
least
two
attorneys
that
I
consulted
argue
strenuously
that
this
matter
is
therefore
still
before
the
council.
Second,
your
Ethics
Committee
allegedly
cleared
your
first
word
member
of
conflict
of
interest.
My
attorney
reviewed
your
ethics
committees
record.
In
his
opinion
it
falls
far
short
of
indication
and
in
his
opinion,
it
could
be
summarized.
A
S
A
S
When
did
the
public
discuss
the
ethics
entities
ruling
when
you
announced
it
and
then
closed
discussion
about
it,
then
it's
not
possible
to
discuss.
According
to
the
record
committee
lawyer
attending
the
proceedings
failed
to
mention
the
US
Supreme
Court
case
Nevada
Commission
on
ethics
versus
Carrigan.
According
to
the
record,
the
city
attorney
failed
to
cite
Illinois
state
statutes,
50
ILCs,
105
/,
one
at
sea
twenties
and
sixty-five
ilcs
5
/
3.1
55
10
at
sea
cuentas,
as
incorporated
in
the
city
code,
1
Israel.
S
A
M
J
A
S
I
Mayor
is
in
charge
of
this.
Would
you
be
quiet?
Understand,
madam
mayor
I,
move
I
move,
be
quiet,
you
don't
know
what
I'm
doing.
Madam
mayor,
madam
mayor
I,
move
that
we
give
this
woman
one
and
a
half
minutes
because
she
was
interrupted
previously
and
then
we
can
move
on
and
her
mom
convinced
me,
regardless.
D
S
I
S
S
T
I
A
S
S
S
Is
submitted
that
there
are
several
instances
in
the
record
members
of
your
committee
asked
about
potential
conflicts
of
interest
in
light
of
how
income
was
accounted
for
and
salaries
were
apportioned
among
the
law
firms
attorneys,
including
your
first
word,
members
son.
My
attorney
pointed
out
that
you
are
at
a
tremendous
advantage
if
you,
as
the
defendant,
can
control
the
complaint
and
allegations
presented
to
any
tribunal,
let
alone
one
chosen
by
your
sympathetic
friend.
S
Third,
it
is
submitted
that
the
appearance
of
impropriety
should
have
been
highlighted
by
the
city's
lawyer,
and
your
ethics
committee
should
have
been
apprised
of
the
US
Supreme
Court's
ruling
and
Carrigan.
It
is
submitted
that
until
such
an
evidentiary
threshold
is
achieved,
the
findings
of
your
Ethics
Committee
cannot
possibly
be
persuasive.
Their
findings
cannot
end
comment
on
issues
that
this
council
continues
to
discuss
and
that
are
not
addressed
in
their
report.
S
It
is
submitted
that
since
the
council
can
change
its
vote,
it
has
jurisdiction,
the
city
mailed
legal
notice
of
the
candle
matter,
stating
that
we
have
the
legal
right
to
speak
as
affected
property
owners.
As
such,
we
opposed
as
councils
vote
at
Kendall
to
sentence
over
two
dozen
trees
to
death
and
to
endanger
pedestrians
with
an
alley
that
dumps
traffic
onto
the
narrow
street
so
protect
the
trees
and
pedestrians
at
Kendall,
which
is
what
the
city
code
requires
see
you
all
next
time.
U
Vaquero
2246
Charmin.
My
comments
are
approved
by
my
attorney.
Not
too
long
ago.
A
man
named
Galilee.
You
said
that
the
Earth
revolves
around
the
Sun
and
not
the
other
way
around.
Unfortunately,
he
was
placed
under
house
arrest
for
telling
the
truth
by
the
ignorant
and
arrogant
authorities
of
that
time.
U
Although
I
was
not
arrested,
my
microphone
was
Cotta
by
your
mayor.
I
never
used
a
profanity
I
was
fully
grown.
I
only
stated
the
facts.
These
facts
are
from
newspapers
and
city
documents.
It
is
submitted
that
I
was
silenced
because
you
do
not
want
me
to
talk
about
the
truth.
The
truth
is
that
the
candle
resubmission
was
passed
with
no
discussion,
no
discussion
at
all.
The
truth
is
that
it
involves
killing
trees,
killing
a
lot
of
trees,
lot
of
old
trees,
endangering
pedestrians.
U
A
I
The
9-1-1
committee
and
our
staff,
along
with
administration
public
works,
recommends
that
the
city
council
authorized
the
manager
to
renew
the
annual
sole
source
software
license
and
service
agreement
was
SunGard
public-sector
for
the
police
department,
cats
system,
the
computer,
aided
dispatch
system
software
in
the
amount
of
seventy
thousand
three
hundred
four
dollars
and
twenty
five
cents.
The
committee
asks
your
approval
to
authorize
the
manager
to
execute
a
one-year
contract
for
purchase
of
Ford
parts
in
the
amount
of
forty
nine
thousand
four
hundred
dollars
with
Gulf
Millford
Inc.
I
I
Next
approval
is
requested
to
authorize
city
manager
to
execute
a
contract
for
the
church,
Street
improvement
project
in
Dodge,
Avenue
and
Lake
Street
streetscape
contract
to
chicagoland,
paving
in
the
amount
of
eight
hundred
and
ninety
nine
thousand
nine
hundred
dollars.
Funding
is
from
West
Evanston
TIF,
which
has
a
budget
amount
of
eight
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
with
staff
requesting
an
additional
approval
of
40,000
of
TIF
funds
for
the
project.
I
Architectural
study
of
potential
locations
for
performing
art
venue
in
downtown
Evanston
funding
is
$50,000
from
the
National
Endowment
for
the
Arts,
our
town
grant
25,000
from
Washington
national
tax,
increment
financing,
district
and
25,000
from
the
oven's
done.
Economic
development
fund:
we
ask
your
approval
also
to
execute
a
change
order
number
one
in
the
not
to
exceed
amount
of
thirty,
seven
thousand
six
hundred
twenty
three
dollars
to
the
agreement
with
American
pipe
liners
for
the
2012
cured
in
place
pipeline
and
contract.
I
We
ask
your
approval,
also
to
authorize
the
manager
to
execute
change
order
number
two
in
the
not
to
exceed
amount
of
fifteen
thousand
three
hundred
to
the
agreement
with
camp
dresser
and
McKee
to
provide
engineering
services
for
the
1964
filter
addition
rehab
project.
This
will
increase
the
agreement.
I
The
agreed
amount
from
three
hundred
and
sixteen
thousand
seven
hundred
fifty
two
dollars
to
three
hundred
thirty,
two
thousand
fifty
two
dollars.
Next,
we
ask
that
you
authorize
the
renewal
or
the
lease
of
the
computer
lab
in
the
main
library
to
workforce
board
of
northern
Cook
County
for
a
one-year
term
from
May
15
to
May
14
2013
at
a
rental
rate
of
seventeen
thousand
seven
hundred
and
sixty
dollars
a
year.
Next,
we
ask
your
approval.
I
Let's
see
ordinance
for
to12
increasing
one-day
liquor,
license
fees
is
off
the
consent
agenda
and
will
be
addressed
by
the
committee
chair.
Next
is
approval
is
requested
for
ordinance
46
o
12
amending
minimum
fines
for
general
C
ticket
administrative
adjudication
violations.
These
are
non
parking
ordinance
violations
that
would
increase
the
minimum
penalty
for
these
general
C
tickets,
fines
by
$10.
This
is
for
action
tonight
under
planning
and
development.
We
ask
your
the
committee:
ask
your
approval
of
resolutions.
I
42
r12,
which
authorizes
the
manager
to
execute
assignment
of
real
estate
contract
for
the
purchase
of
1600
foster
Avenue
in
Evanston
for
$1,500,000
funding
will
be
provided
by
the
city's
1800
point.
Five
million
dollar
Neighborhood
Stabilization
program
to
grant
this
is
to
implement
the
first
phase
of
events,
Emerson
Square,
a
new
mixed
income,
housing
development.
I
Next
we
asked
your
approval
for
one-year
extension
of
the
adopted
plan,
development
for
the
construction
of
a
four
unit
building
by
Brin
Shore
development
to
be
located
on
the
currently
vacant
parcel
at
19,
15,
1919,
Gray.
Avenue.
Next
item
is
going
to
be
for
introduction
and
then
will
be
addressed
by
the
committee
chair
for
action
tonight.
I
This
is
ordinance
4800
12,
which
grants
a
major
zoning
relief
for
front
yard
parking
and
a
rear
yard
setback
at
2627
Lincolnwood
Drive
next
is
amending
portions
of
the
zoning
ordinance
related
to
home
occupations
and
taking
this
off
the
consent
agenda
to
be
addressed
by
the
committee
chair
as
there
was
a
great
deal
of
committee
discussion
regarding
at
the
matter,
ordinance
38,
o
12
immense
various
portions
of
the
city
code
relating
to
bed-and-breakfast
establishments.
Madam
mayor
I'm
going
to
move
introduction
of
this
and
it's
going
to
be
returned
to
the
committee.
I
So
that's
moving
for
introduction,
then
under
P
6
the
committee
recommends
the
adoption
the
committee
chair,
aldermen
Fisk.
The
committee
chair
can
address
what
we
did
when
they
make
the
report:
okay,
okay,
ordinance,
36,
oh
12!
We
recommend
the
adoption
of
this
ordinance,
which
grants
a
planned
development
approval.
A
special
use
permit
for
the
proposed
drive
through
replacing
the
existing
drive
through
an
approval
of
a
major
variation
for
the
proposed
new
Walgreens
at
6:35
Chicago
Avenue
for
action
tonight.
I
The
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
and
city
staff
and
the
committee
recommend
the
adoption
of
ordinance
42
o
12,
which
grants
a
special
use
permit
for
the
operation
of
a
commercial
indoor
recreation
facility
at
2125,
Ashland
Avenue.
This
is
for
action
under
Human
Services.
The
committee
asked
your
approval
of
the
township
of
Evanston
April,
2012,
payroll
and
Bill's
in
the
amount
of
one
hundred
eighteen
thousand
two
hundred
and
seventy
eight
dollars
and
fifty
four
cents.
I
Next,
the
Human
Services
Committee
and
staff
recommend
City
Council
approval
of
substantial
amendments
to
the
2011
2012
action
plans,
including
funding
allocations
to
individual
agencies.
This
must
be
submitted
to
HUD
by
May
15
2012.
Next
approval
of
the
Harley
Clark
mansion
request.
Yes,
man,
this
is
remove.
H
3
is
removed
from
the
consent
agenda
and
will
be
addressed
by
the
committee
chair
under
economic
development
committee.
The
economic
development
committee
and
staff
recommend
city
council
approval
of
43
arc
12,
which
authorizes
the
city
manager
to
execute
a
loan
agreement
of
up
to
200
thousand.
I
This
is
taken
off
the
consent
agenda.
This
is
the
chicken
and
waffles
resolution.
Next
under
rules
committee
member
has
requested
that
the
matter
concerning
citizens
united,
be
removed
from
the
consent
agenda
for
the
purpose
of
amendment
under
appointments
for
appointment
to
the
Housing
and
Community
Development
Act
committee.
The
mayor
recommends
Genie
sank.
B
M
I'm
not
sure
I
have
an
amendment.
I
I
did
explore
the
possibility
connection
with
this
contract,
the
year's
contract
to
paint
and
refurbish
sandblasting
and
painting
fire
hydrants
in
Evanston.
The
idea
that
perhaps
we
should
expand
our
purple
fire
hydrant
efforts
to
more
of
Evanston
and
have
learned
with
discussions
with
staff
that
we
can
do
this.
That
is,
if
we,
if
we
take
the
fire
hydrants,
that
we
will
be
the
older
ones,
sandblasting
and
repainting
as
part
of
this
contract.
M
We
can
do
this
at
no
additional
cost
to
the
city
and
no
apparent
our
life
safety
operations
that
is
use
of
fire
hydrants
by
our
firefighters.
They
know
where
they
are.
It
doesn't
matter
what
color
they
are
and
I
recommend
that
we
consider
then
repainting
as
part
of
this
agenda
item
fire
hydrants
purple
instead
of
red,
and
there
is
a
possibility
that
I
will
explore
on
our
behalf
to
secure
some
kind
of
contribution
from
a
new
athletics,
and
it
has
indicated
they're
interested
as
well.
M
F
Thank
you,
madam
mayor.
Well,
I
like
the
idea
of
supporting
University
in
this
effort.
I
and
I
could
see
actually
the
area
around
the
University,
where
there's
a
immediate
tie-in
to
banners
and
other
things
that
the
university
does
so
well
that
a
hydrant
program
that
were
you
know,
included
many
purple
ones
around.
There
would
have
a
nice
connection
and
a
nice
show
and
I
support
for
the
university.
However,
I
do
think
it'd
be
a
mistake
to
paint
all
city
hydrants
purple.
F
It's
not
you
know.
We
have
a
very
classic
landscape
Parkway.
We
have,
we
have
classic
light
posts.
We
have
very
traditional
homes.
I
think
that
the
red
fire
hydrant
is
kind
of
a
classic
American,
icon
and
I
also
would
be
curious
about
I'm
curious
about
the
legibility
of
purple
purple
the
dark
color.
If
that
figures
into
you
know
red
as
a
color,
you
can
see
both
at
night
and
during
the
day
it's
very
visible
and
I
think
purple
might
be
a
you
know,
have
some
potential
danger,
so
those
are
my
thoughts.
Thank
you.
Thank.
F
C
You
alderman
tandem,
I,
absolutely
agree
with
you.
I
I
think
it's
fine.
If
the
university
would
like
to
ask
for
a
permit
to
paint
various
fire,
hydrants
purple
and
pay
for
them,
I
think
that's
a
fabulous
idea
around
the
university,
but
I've
had
I've
had
inquiries
to
paint
other
fire
hydrants
colors
that
match
corporate
corporate
designs
and
I've
I'm,
not
sure
we
want
to
go
there.
I
think
that's
something
we
probably
want
to
talk
about
fire
hydrants
a
well
for
example:
I
mean
I,
did
know
that
a
purple
fire
hydrant
is
non
potable
water.
C
So
I,
don't
think
we
want
to
send
that
message
out
that
you
can't
drink
water
out
of
the
fire
hydrant,
but
I
do
think
that
it
is
a
form
of
advertising
and
while
we
might
look
at
it
as
just
a
nice
gesture
of
friendship,
there's
a
lot
of
businesses,
not-for-profits
other
organizations
in
Evanston
that
have
a
color
associated
with
them.
The
mayor
mentioned
the
high
school,
for
example.
I
think
we
need
to
figure
out
what
our
color
is
here
in
Evanston
and
I.
Think
with
the
default
is
a
red
fire
hydrant
for
the
time
being.
C
If,
at
some
time
in
the
future,
we
want
to
have
an
Evanston
color
and
that
color
is
purple,
then
so
be
it,
but
I
think
it
actually
does
a
disservice
to
everyone
else.
Who
has
it
has
an
interest
in
painting
their
own
fire,
hydrants
and
I'd
hate
to
see
the
mishmash
of
colors
around
without
some
further
discussion,
Thank
You.
C
I
That's
that's
not
why
I'm
standing
understand
I
wasn't
going
to
mention
this
publicly,
but
since
we're
talking
about
this,
this
is
exactly
and
I'm
going
to
refer
this
to
Alderman
Braithwaite
and
the
Evanston
Business
Committee,
because
this
is
exactly
the
kind
of
purchase
that
should
have
stood
stayed
in
Evanston.
The
two
bidders
are
outside
of
Evanston
have
nothing
to
do
with
Evanston.
We
have
hundreds
of
painters
in
our
town.
They
should
have
gotten
this
job,
how
it
was
advertised,
I,
don't
know,
but
this
is
under
twenty
five
thousand
dollars.
M
I'm
I.
Second,
the
motion
to
simply
approve
the
contract
I
was
just
putting
it
out
there
as
and
another
idea.
Obviously,
we've
had
a
very
successful
purple
fire
hydrant
plan
program
in
my
neighborhoods,
without
a
lot
of
objection
or
even
a
fence,
so
consider
it
think
about
fire
hydrants
in
a
different
way.
As
all
I'm
asking.
Thank
you.
L
A
That
is
correct.
The
motion
before
us
is
for
red
fire
hydrants.
Is
that
correct,
Alderman
Grover
aldermen
alderman
chair
the
chair
of
AP
&
W
has
spoken
all
right.
This
is
for
action
and
this
is
a
money
item.
So
city
clerk,
would
you
call
the
roll
you're
voting
on
approval
of
the
contract
with
alpha
paint
works
incorporated
for
the
fire
hydrant
painting.
M
B
D
A
M
On
the
city
budget,
but
it
looks
to
me
as
if
it's
gonna
be
high
impact
to
those
nonprofits
and
those
groups
that
are
seeking
the
licenses
and
I,
don't
think
for
the
type
of
events
that
they're
hosting
that
these
licenses
are
connected
with
that
we
want
to
dissuade
them
from
having
those
events
in
Evanston.
This
is
just
one
piece
of
the
budgets
for
a
nonprofit
that
look.
M
M
I
Definitely
suggests
you
vote
yes,
because
the
only
reason
this
license
is
taken
out
is
because
they're
selling
that
liquor,
so
they
can
add
the
tax
to
the
price
of
liquor.
But
you
know
every
penny
counts
in
this
town.
I-
and
this
is
this-
is
a
privilege
to
have
a
one-day
liquor
license
and
I.
Think,
given
the
small
amount
of
money
that
we're
asking
them
to
pay,
and
they
are
not
the
only
ones
that
it
certainly
was
there
and
they
are
selling
the
liquor,
so
they
get
had.
Q
A
O
I
C
F
There's
no
construction.
Obviously
there
is-
and
they
did
not
anticipate,
that
this
was
even
a
possibility,
but
they
into
a
pretty
laborious
process
and
have
made
presentations
all
the
way
up
from
spark
through
rezoning
and
had
sort
of
incomplete
result
of
Zoning.
They
have
been
really
diligent
in
their
effort
to
pursue
this.
There's
no
question
in
my
mind
that
this
site
is
appropriate
for
variance
there
are.
This
is
not
one
that
I
typically
like
or
or
approve,
but
once
in
a
while
a
site
does
come
along.
F
That
just
has
no
other
alternative,
and
this
is
one
of
those
so
we'd
really
like
to
give
them
the
advantage
of
not
having
to
come
back
another
night
and
I
think
there
have.
Certainly,
the
issue
has
been
aired
at
many
levels
in
great
detail
and
they
have
as
you've
seen
your
packet
neighborhoods
support
and
I.
Don't
see
any
reason
not
to
suspend
the
rules
and
get
it
approved
tonight.
C
I'm
going
to
object
to
suspension
of
the
rules-
I'm,
sorry,
but
it's
it
is
something
that
I
think
is
important.
It
gives
the
entire
community
an
opportunity
to
know
that
the
vote
is
coming
up
and
given
the
vote
of
the
CBA
and
the
fact
that
it's
two
major
major
variations,
I
I,
think
that's
it's
appropriate
to
give
the
community
that
chance.
A
O
O
A
O
O
The
economic
development
staff
and
the
legal
staff
and
the
business
license
staff
to
determine
the
best
ways
to
license
other
commercial
businesses
that
are
not
currently
currently
licensed
by
the
city
of
Evanston,
because
it
affects
more
than
just
what
has
been
outlined
in
this
in
this
ordinance.
So
the
staff
has
been
referenced
for
that.
So
that
was
the
action
that
was
taken
on
this,
but
we
did
move
to
go
ahead
and
introduce
it
tonight
was.
O
O
O
We
took
that
off
because
there
were
several
recommendations
that
needed
to
be
made
that
went
back
to
committee,
we're
holding
that
in
the
committee
on
we
did
talk
about
distance,
I.
Think
of
having
the
staff
to
know
you
recommend
500
feet.
We
voted
on
500
feet
of
distance.
We
talked
about
rehabbing
this
after
each
word
and
we
look
at
the
especially
event
section
I
believe
is
29
and
also
to
rework
these
section
that
dealt
with
kitchens
additions.
A
It's
been
moved
and
seconded
the
reason
that
I
asked
to
have
this
removed
from
the
consent
agenda
is
so
that
we
could
have
two
options:
one,
the
one
is
selling
it.
While
the
city
would
only
the
underlying
land
and
the
other
would
be
selling
the
land
beneath
the
building,
I
believe
that
we
will
lose
one
of
our
two
prospective
buyers.
If
we
don't
sell
the
land,
I
did
not
propose
selling,
as
I've
always
said,
not
a
blade
of
grass,
but
the
basic
land
under
the
building
would
seem
to
me
to
be
illogical.
M
And
we
discussed
somehow
I
remember,
asking
two
options:
selling
it
building
only
or
building
plus
land
and
came
out
of
committee
just
building
only
but
I
am
very
supportive
of
issuing
a
request
for
interest
for
either
one
of
two
hours.
Thank
you,
I'll
see.
If
we
get
the
interest,
we're
hoping
for
Thank.
I
Madam
mayor
I'm
not
sure
why
we
would
even
consider
selling
the
the
improvement
without
the
land
under
it.
So
I
think
that
should
be
I.
Like
your
idea,
though,
if
the
second
time
it
goes
gets
turned
over,
but
why
why
would
we
not
sell
the
land
with
it?
It
I
can
just
see
the
same
story
as
with
1817
Church.
It
could
go
on
for
years.
You
think
you've
got
a
brilliant
idea:
you're
gonna
issue,
a
request
for
interest
proposal,
etc.
I
F
L
Ma'am
I
just
want
to
be
clear
as
to
what
we're
asking
so
we're
asking
we're.
Gonna
offer
options
through
this
request
for
interest
either
for
the
lease
of
the
building,
the
leasable,
which
would
include
the
land,
the
sale
of
the
building
or
the
sale
of
the
building
and
the
land
where
we
are
or
is,
is
the
build
as
the
sale
of
the
building
without
the
land.
Now
off
the
table.
I
A
L
L
F
I
L
I
L
I
L
If
you'd
like
to
see
the
sign
and
the
ads,
we
can
circulate
those
I
think
mr.
McCray
is
taking
the
lead.
I've
seen
some
signs
sitting
in
his
office
that
we
use
for
notices
for
public
hearings.
So
these
are
not
large.
I.
Think
we're
just
looking
to
mr.
McCreary
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
we're
just
looking
to
use
those
signs
with
the
different
kind
of
text
on
them
and
then
the
advertisement
so
I
think
we
were
thinking
of
quarter-page
simple
display
ads
in
the
in
the
round
table
in
the
review.
C
L
Again,
aldermen
fist,
members
of
the
council,
what
we've
tried
to
do
with
this,
and
it's
detailed
under
section.
One
of
the
proposal
says
the
intent
of
this
request
of
interest
is
to
identify
to
qualify
purchaser
or
lessee
to
renovate
and
are
and
use
the
existing
structure.
The
selected
purchaser
or
lessee
must
have
the
necessary
financial
capabilities
to
complete
this
project.
L
The
objective
is
to
track
to
user.
The
builds
upon
the
entire
strings
to
the
site,
well-maintained
historic
character
of
the
surrounding
existing
uses,
so
I
think
we're
leaving
it
open.
At
this
point
into
the
request
of
interest,
then,
once
the
council
sees
what
those
interests
are
I
think
we
would
flush
out
more
details
in
a
request
for
proposal.
A
A
B
M
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
I
move
resolution,
40
R
12
city
of
Evanston,
supportive,
a
constitutional
amendment
to
effectively
overturn
the
US
Supreme
Court's
conclusion
in
citizens,
united
against
FEC,
relating
to
constitutional
rights
for
corporate
entities
and
I
have
some
amendments.
Is
there
a
second
second
I
propose
amendments
consistent
with
those
suggested
by
mr.
Smith
and
mr.
McAuliffe,
with
whom
this
originated.
I've
spoken
with
him
and
he's
fine
with
this.
M
Two,
if
you
are
you
following
me,
still
awake
section
two,
the
word
proposed
at
the
very
end
would
be
replaced
by
the
word
sponsored
that's
what
I'm
looking
for.
So
it
would
read
the
you
at
the
Evanston
city
council
supports
efforts
to
effectively
overturn
the
u.s.
the
United
States
Supreme
Court's
ruling
in
Citizens
United
against
Federal
Election
Commission,
including
the
constitutional
amendments
sponsored
by
US,
Senator,
Dick
Durbin
from
Illinois.
Thank
you.
A
D
C
You,
madam
mayor
I,
want
to
renew
a
reference
I
made
to
Human
Services
some
months
ago
to
amend
the
public
place
names
so
that
not-for-profit
organizations,
including
churches,
can
be
eligible
to
be
qualified
for
a
public
place
name
and
a
street
sign.
I
would
like
to
do
that
for
the
Second
Baptist
Church,
so
I
would
appreciate
it
if
that
could
be
on
the
next
Human
Services
agenda,
because
we've
been
waiting
now
for
three
months.
N
Thank
you,
madam
mayor.
First
I
just
would
like
to
thank
Council
for
their
support
of
the
interesting
vote
of
support
for
Chicago
chicken
and
waffle.
I'd
like
to
thank
the
staff.
Paul's
album
Zakai
looks
like
everyone
left,
Steve
Nancy
for
all
their
input,
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
great
project
not
only
for
the
neighborhood,
the
ward,
but
also
for
Evanston,
just
a
great
collaboration
of
the
city,
Evanston
first
Bank
and
Trust,
as
well
as
the
owners
having
skin
in
the
game.
I
want
to
respond
to
alderman
Rainey's
referral.
N
I
do
agree
that
every
penny
counts
and
this
week
I
would
invite
you
to
attend
our
MWBE
committee.
We
will
have
an
opportunity
to
review
the
20,000
and
under
spend
and
I'm
looking
for
not
only
to
hearing
that
report
on
Wednesday,
even
but
also
bringing
that
information
back
to
Council.
Also,
this
Wednesday
8:30
to
noon
myself
in
alderman
Grover,
along
with
dr.
Robert
Mayer
who's,
a
professor
at
Loyola.
We
plan
on
hosting
the
financial.
N
T
Thank
you.
Madam
mayor
I
would
like
to
thank
everyone
who
came
out
to
the
Third
Ward
meeting.
Despite
the
hailstorm
I
thought
it
was
just
gonna,
be
the
city
manager,
officer,
Whitehead
and
me
at
the
meeting,
but
we
had
Wally,
says
75
I,
say
a
hundred
people
there
and
despite
soaking
rain,
I
won,
and
it
was
an
excellent
meeting
with
a
great
turnout
with
a
lot
of
good
questions.
T
A
O
Despite
to
invite
everyone,
if
you
still
awake
out
there
fifth
waters,
the
wet
regular
board
meeting
is
on
this
Thursday
at
7
p.m.
at
Fleetwood
Jourdain,
and
also
to
remind
those
of
you
who
joined
us
last
year
that
the
first
prayer
visual
for
a
safe
summer
will
happen
on
Saturday,
the
19th
at
Springfield
I'm.
Looking
at
Joe
I
think
it's
10
o'clock,
exact,
correct
at
10:00
a.m.
I
believe
it
is
starting
at
Springfield,
Baptist
Church
at
Emerson
and
Darrell.
I
Mayor
and
everyone
out
there
I
just
want
to
congratulate
all
those
amazing
police
officers
who
received
awards
the
other
night.
You
know
when
we
complain
about
them,
don't
they
have
anything
better
than
to
do
then
to
took
at
our
cars
when
you
see
all
the
things
that
they're
doing
when
they're
not
ticketing,
our
cars
they're
much
safer
ticketing,
our
cars,
so
it
was
just
amazing
some
of
the
things
that
they
did
and
Tracy
Williams
was
awarded
the
Officer
of
the
Year,
which
is
just
wonderful,
Thank.
J
I
do
pursuant
to
v
Illinois
compiled
statutes,
ilcs
120,
/,
2a
I,
move
that
the
City
Council
convened
in
do
executive
session
to
discuss
agenda
items
regarding
personnel,
collective
bargaining
litigation
in
minutes.
These
agenda
items
are
permitted
subjects
to
be
considered
an
executive
session
and
are
enumerated
exceptions
under
the
Open
Meetings
Act.
These
exceptions
are
five
ILCs
120
/,
2a
c
1
c,
2
c,
11
and
c
21.