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A
E
A
With
nine
members
constituting
a
quorum
being
present,
we
can
proceed.
The
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
sp1.
Would
someone
like
to
make
a
motion
regarding
sp1.
G
C
E
D
A
H
Good
evening,
city
manager
and
city
council
members,
I'd
like
to
talk
to
you
all
about
respect
and
what
you
expect
when
you
schedule
your
meetings.
Last
month
we
came
to
a
city
council
meeting
which
started
with
a
tiff
hearing
you
scheduled.
It
chose
the
time
and
place.
We
all
watched
and
listened
to
a
two-hour
presentation
which
was
very
interesting
and
then
came
time
for
questions
and
answers
to
and
from
residents.
H
But
you
decided
to
shut
it
down
the
most
important
part
of
the
tiff
hearing,
which
is
to
have
the
discussion
with
the
residents
who
would
be
affected.
You
are
ignoring
once
again
that
the
government
was
created
of
the
people
by
the
people
and
for
the
people
I
asked
four
days
ago.
When
are
we
going
to
finish
the
most
important
part
of
this
tiff
hearing,
which
is
to
have
the
discussion
with
the
residents
still
waiting
for
an
answer
now?
H
H
We,
the
residents,
need
to
know
that
our
public
comments
are
part
of
your
decision
making
process
without
the
appropriate
discussions
and
without
any
feedback
from
city
council
members
concerning
public
comments,
questions
and
concerns.
We
are
all
missing
out
on
the
purpose
and
intent
of
public
comment.
H
A
I
Hello
all
I
last
spoke
to
y'all
on
monday
advising
you
vote
against
this
agreement,
and
I
have
a
couple
things
to
say.
I
want
to
break
it
down
into
two
categories:
respect
and
transparency.
I
And
the
second
thing
I
want
to
get
into
is
transparency,
and
that
first
comes
with
this
particular
council.
So
I
understand
the
need
for
executive
committee.
That
was
an
hour
and
a
half
at
the
end
of
everybody
who
had
showed
up
in
council
person
was
only
myself
former
mayoral
candidate,
sebastian
knowles
and
two
reporters
that
and
ending
the
meeting
at
12
30
effectively
iced
out.
I
However,
many
of
your
constituents
who
would
have
wanted
to
show
up
to
understand,
what's
going
on
and
fight
for,
what's
right
that
that
also
goes
from
my
own
council
member
councilmember
nguyen
who
declined
to
respond
to
four
texts
and
two
phone
calls.
I
left
trying
to
discuss
this
agreement
with
her
and
then
transparency
going
forward.
I
We're
now
going
to
be
at
the
second
job
search
for
new
city
manager
in
one
year,
and
I'm
hoping
that
that
that
constituents,
and
particularly
lakefront
staff,
will
be
able
to
have
a
role
in
this
because
they're
the
ones
who
are
affected,
we're
the
ones
who
have
to
pay
the
price
moving
forward
physically
and
psychologically
with
what
has
happened
and
the
failings
that
we've
seen
so
far.
So
on
those
two
notes
of
respect
and
transparency,
I'm
disappointed
and
I'm
expecting
that
we
can
do
better.
Thank
you.
J
Good
evening,
mayor
council,
members
and
city
clerk
before
I
my
time
is
going,
but
I'm
a
little
confused.
I
thought
citizen
comment
would
take
place
before
a
vote
occurred.
J
J
J
I
have
the
utmost
respect
for
her.
I
never
saw
her
do
anything
disparage
council
members
residents,
fellow
employees,
it
was
not
the
ex
actual
absolute
opposite
of
a
toxic
work
environment.
She
created
a
great
team.
I
was
very
proud
to
be
part
of
that
team.
There
were
many
awards.
One
erica
often
avoided
this.
The
limelight
when
awards
were
given.
She
would
pass
those
accolades
onto
her
staff.
J
I
do
not
have
any
insight
into
the
lakefront
or
what
happened
after
the
report
was
made,
but
I
think
most
people
in
evanston
actually
don't
have
any
direct
knowledge
either
and
that's
why
the
investigation
was
called
for
and
it
appears
that
erica
is
being
forced
out
long
before
the
investigation
concludes,
and
I
hope
that
wanting
to
act
to
just
act
to
do
something
does
not
lead
the
city
to
losing
one
of
its
best
and
brightest.
Just
to
show
that
you're
doing
something.
A
K
She
is
mayor,
but
she
does
not
seem
to
be
responding
at
this
time.
Got
it.
A
Okay,
oh
sorry,
let's
move
on
then
to
mike
davis,
who
will
be
followed
by
misty
wittenberg
and
then
elizabeth
feldman.
L
L
City
manager,
erica
storley,
is
an
exceptional
city
manager.
She
has
served
the
evanston
community
as
a
public
servant
for
more
than
15
years.
In
various
important
roles,
ms
storley
has
guided
evanston
through
its
most
challenging
days.
She
has
helped
our
city
achieve
international
national,
honors
and
recognition.
L
L
L
L
L
L
A
M
And
while
those
experiences
continue
to
inform
my
perspective
tonight,
I
would
like
to
add
a
couple
of
comments
as
just
a
concerned:
citizen,
community,
member,
long
time,
evanston,
resident
and
mother
of
two
adult
daughters,
and
I
want
to
say
I'm
speaking
for
myself,
but
I
have
also
been
in
touch
with
many
many
other
evanston
residents
who
are
very
concerned
about
this
process
and
who
do
share
my
concerns
so
to
say
at
the
outset.
M
M
M
M
M
M
A
K
Good
evening,
council
and
mayor
bis,
there
are
two
issues
that
I
would
like
to
discuss
with
the
council
this
evening,
the
first
of
which
is
the
manner
in
which
this
agreement
came
about.
K
Mr
cummings
was
on
public
record
today
indicating
that
he
that
ms
storley
did
not
ask
for
the
confidentiality
provision
that
was
included
in
clause
9
of
the
separation
agreement,
by
implication.
That
implies
that
the
city
in
fact
asked
for
this.
If
that
is
the
case,
I
would
like
to
understand
why,
in
fact,
the
city
was
trying
to
bury
this
report.
K
The
second
issue
I'd
like
to
raise
and
call
to
the
attention
of
the
community
is
that
we
may
not
be
getting
the
transparency
that
we've
asked
for,
because
the
curious
language
that
was
drafted
into
the
new
separation
agreement
implies
that
the
report,
if
any
may
be
shared,
I
teach
drafting
contracts
for
a
living
and
the
implication
of
the
edition.
If
any
suggests
that
the
council
is
likely
to
ask
for
an
oral
report
that
would
not
then
need
to
be
shared
with
the
community.
K
I
would
request
that
the
council
state
its
intention
affirmatively
to
share
this
report
and
that
a
written
report
be
generated
and
that
that
report
then
be
shared
with
the
community
and
if
there
is
any
reluctance
among
the
mayor
or
the
council
to
do
so,
please
state
that
publicly
as
soon
as
possible.
That's
all,
I
have
to
say.
A
N
I
don't
think
that
the
city
attorney
should
have
represented
or
misrepresented
or
quoted
mayor
bis
in
any
way
as
to
as
was
done
in
the
august
12
memo
regarding
referring
to
storley
as
leading
with
integrity,
honesty
and
compassion.
N
Redacted,
foias
and
intentionally
misleading
public
as
a
practice
in
the
city
manager's
office,
so
no
erica
storley
does
not
walk
on
water,
as
some
like
pete
g
and
greco
and
ex-mayor
haggerty
have
suggested
erica
is
the
responsible
person
in
charge.
The
fact
is:
erica
storley
leads
a
staff
that
has
bad
actors
in
authoritative
positions.
N
N
P
O
O
O
O
A
A
Thank
you
in
that
case,
we'll
go
to
megan
hughes,
followed
by
doreen
price
and
then
mary
rozinski.
A
C
Okay
yeah,
so
I'm
megan
hughes
and
I
have
not
had
an
opportunity
to
review
any
new
separation
agreement,
but
I
understand
that
it
contains
a
clause
about
you
know.
If
there
is
a
report,
you
know
I
I
heard
one
speaker
say
something
about
that.
This
is
a
jewish
month
of
you
know,
looking
back
at
maybe
what
what
we've
done
wrong?
I'm
not
sure
exactly
what
she
said,
but
I
agreed
with
the
intent.
C
You
know
this.
This
new
council
and
you
may
have
just
promised
us
transparency
promised.
I
don't
see
where
any
of
this
is
going.
With
regards
to
transparency,
when
I
saw
the
redacted
agreement
with
the
lawyers
I
forget
so
and
so
porter
and
porter,
I
was
really
astonished.
C
I
mean
what
was
the
point
of
redacting
any
of
that,
and
you
know
as
far
as
the
agreement
that
was
written
up
was
mr
cummings,
and
I
don't
know
if
erica
storley
agreed
with
it
or
not,
but
it
basically
you
know
absolved
her.
It
seemed
to
me
of
of
of
anything
any
wrongdoing,
and
I
don't
see
where
that
can
be
the
case,
and
but
I
do
think
that
you
know
having
her
fired
or
severed
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
before.
C
C
C
In
you
may
or
miss
four
some
somehow
I
don't,
and
there
may
be
reasons
that
we
don't
know,
but
I
think
we
deserve
to
know
the
citizens
deserve
to
know
the
truth,
and
we
would
promise
the
truth
and
I
think
we're
going
to
hold
out
for
the
truth.
I
will
anyway
so
thank
you
and
I
again
thank
mr
councilmember
reed
for
being
the
only
person
so
far
to
apologize
to
the
lifeguards
and
with
it.
P
P
Basically,
restorative
infrastructure,
accountability
and
progressive
prosecution
is
is
a
place
where
not
at,
and
I
think
would
help
in
resolving
this
matter
in
a
way
where
there's
no
losers
and
and
and
people
can
come
out
stronger
and
healed,
and
we
failed
to
do
that
in
the
past
and
maybe
now's
the
time
to
consider
some
really
good
resources
that
are
available
online
as
well
as
consultants.
P
P
The
alternative
dispute
resolution
examples
from
restore
about
restorative
justice,
from
harvard
education,
there's
legalnews.com,
which
talks
about
progressive
prosecutors
and
restorative
infrastructure,
which
we
don't
have
and
truly
need
as
a
progressive
community.
Looking
at
people
as
someone
to
punish
is
not
good
for
erica
and
it's
not
good
for
the
rest
of
the
community.
P
P
We'd
unite
us
all
in
consideration
of
leaving
erica
here,
making
sure
that
we
pursue
these
goals,
while
she's
here
and
then
in
terms
of
accountability,
have
her
actually
help
with
accountability
issues
in
a
truthful
manner,
to
the
extent
that
she
does,
that
that
should
be
viewed
as
restorative
and
helpful
and
maybe
undo
some
of
the
things
that
went
wrong.
P
If
she
passes
up
that
opportunity,
then
it's
her
loss,
because
that
means
we
as
a
community,
have
to
ask
more
from
her,
and
I
think
her
initiative
would
be
great
in
terms
of
leading
evanston
to
someplace
different
that
she
may
have
fallen
into
because
of
a
previous
city
manager,
for
which
she
may
really
not
have
the
heart
in
doing
but
cannot
somehow
resolve.
That's
it
that's
the
most
positive.
I
can
contribute
and
then
read
the
articles
for
sure.
Please.
Q
Q
Just
because
that's
what
the
newspaper
said
she
had
resigned,
but
I
do
want
to
agree
with
the
previous
speakers
who
said
the
report
must
be
written
and
shared
so
that
we're
able
to
determine
you
know
the
la
how
this
lack
of
action
for
two
years
over
sexual
harassment
issues
was
able
to
go
on
and
we
have
an
organizational
structure.
B
I
just
I'm
sorry,
I
thought
we
were
going
to
exec
first
and
I'm
a
little.
It
was
a
little
confusing,
I
think,
the
beginning
of
the
meeting,
given
that
we
voted
and
then
there
was
public
comment.
So
I
would
just
like
to
ask
if
any
of
my
colleagues
who
voted
on
the
prevailing
side
would
consider
asking
for
reconsideration
just
to
allow
for
a
little
bit
of
discussion
that.
E
I
I
will
join
that
call
for
someone
to
do.
I
think,
given
that
we
did
take
the
vote
before
public
comment
it
almost.
You
know
people
came
here
to
give
comment
and
I
think
we
should
be
influenced
by
that.
So
I
think
it
makes
sense
that
a
colleague
who
voted
on
the
prevailing
side
would
motion
to
reconsider.
A
So,
seeing
seeing
no
no
one
seeking
recognition,
councilmember
flying.
R
R
You
so
I
just
one
thank
you
for
everyone
who
came
out
to
speak.
I
realized
this
was
a
little
upside
down
tonight.
I
just
want
to
point
out
a
couple
things
now
that
I've
been
up
here.
What
feels
like
8
million
years,
we
all
have
different
relationships
with
different
people.
That
includes
staff,
that
includes
council
members,
and
so
I
respect
when
people
come
forward
and
say
they
work
with
someone.
They're
great
they've
had
this
experience,
but
I
think
we
need
to
be
mindful
that
everyone
doesn't
have
that
experience.
R
Even
though
we're
all
talking
about
you
know
the
same
people
most
of
the
time.
Some
people
have
delightful
experience
with
people,
and
some
people
do
not
have
delightful
experiences
with
people,
and
that
doesn't
mean
that,
at
least
for
myself-
and
I
hope
for
my
colleagues
that
people
make
assumptions
we're
making
decisions
based
on
personal
relationships.
R
I
hope
that
we
can
understand
that
we
are
professionals
and-
and
while
I
did
not
vote
to
hire
erica
storley,
I
was
very
clear
that
you
know
she
was
who
I
needed
to
work
with,
because
she
was
the
person
who
received
the
job.
My
vote
to
not
approve
her
contract
was
not
based
on
our
personal
relationship.
We
don't
have
a
personal
relationship,
we
have
a
work
relationship.
It
was
based
on
my
opinion
that
a
year
of
knowing
something
and
not
telling
your
supervisors
is
problematic.
R
It
was
based
on
what
I
have
come
to
learn.
Maybe
was
not
quite
an
investigation.
We
proclaimed
it
to
be
in
the
beginning,
which
is
why
I
supported
us
hiring
an
I'm
outside
attorney
to
look
into
it
because
I
didn't
feel
like
us
looking
into
it
inside
this
building
made
sense,
and
so
I
just
think
that
I
would
like
to
put
out
to
the
public.
I
hear
people,
I
hear
people
who
said
that
they
have
a
great
relationship
with
her.
For
me,
this
is
not
a
witch
hunt.
R
I
mean
again,
I
I
was
very
clear
with
my
opinion
about
her
once
she
started
the
position.
This
is
my
responsibility
to
the
staff.
I
have
not
seen
every
document
that
was
produced
by
the
young
people
at
the
beach.
I
do
believe
them.
The
reason
I
have
not
apologized
is
because
it
has
been
our
corporate
kind
of
legal
response
that
we
don't
apologize
for
for
sake
of
more
legal
action.
R
We
have
had
many
staff
and
and
citizens
who
have
had
unfortunate
situations
with
our
staff
all
across
the
board
and
have
asked
for
apologies
and-
and
I
have
not
done
so-
and
so
that's
kind
of
the
stance
I
take.
I
do
not.
You
know
like
what
happened
at
the
beach.
I
do
not
know
all
of
what
happened
at
the
beach.
R
R
R
So
I
just
want
to
clear
that
up
with
people
who
who
proclaim
folks
are
great,
you
know
that's
not
everyone's
experience,
and
so
I
appreciate
that
you've
had
that
experience,
but
I
do
feel
like
this
is
the
best
thing
for
us
to
do
as
a
city
to
move
forward
to
get
a
new
set
of
eyes
into
the
building
and
to
make
sure
everyone
who
works
here
is
treated
with
respect,
no
matter
if
it
was
sexual
harassment
or
not
getting
the
raise
or
promotion
that
they
deserve,
and
so
I
have
to
wait
all
of
those
things
and
the
state
of
our
city.
R
B
Thank
you
I
was
holding
out
for
reconsideration,
but
since
I
didn't
get
that,
I
would
like
to
make
a
statement.
I
agree
fully
with
the
gentleman
who
spoke
to
paragraph
nine.
I
believe
we
all
campaigned
on
creating
a
more
transparent
government
and
by
moving
forward
with
this
paragraph,
we
are
not
committing
to
our
promises
to
our
residents.
B
I
wanted
to
ask
that
we
amend
that
to
remove
the
sentence
that
says
that
the
city
will
keep
everything
confidential
relating
to
erica
sterli's
employment
to
the
city.
That's
17
years.
That's
not
even
tenable
practical
you!
We
can't
even
carry
that
out.
What's
wrong
with
keeping
a
personnel
file
confidential,
like
you
do
with
every
other
employee,
I
mean
that
that
we
can't
even
do
that.
That's
impossible
to
carry
out
that
request,
it's
impossible,
so
that
covers
just
about
you
know
any
conversation
with
anybody.
B
That
means,
if
you
talk
to
someone
outside
of
the
city,
you
could
be
held
liable
and
get
sued.
I
mean
this
is
just
that
paragraph
does
not
belong
in
here
and
particularly
that
sentence,
and
I'm
sorry
that
we
weren't
willing
to
discuss
this
and
to
allow
for
an
amendment.
But
I
would
say
that
sentence
should
absolutely
be
removed
and
again
you
know
we
keep
personnel
files
confidential.
That
should
be
sufficient.
Why
do
we
need
to
go
beyond
that?
E
Would
still
hope
that
some
one
of
our
colleagues
would
consider
a
reconsideration
to
discuss
the
matter
if,
if
possible,
I
think
it's
fair
to
do
that.
We
don't
normally
have
public
comment
after
we
vote
on
things,
and
it's
usually
not
the
first
thing
in
the
meeting
before
communications
from
the
mayor
or
the
city
manager
or
the
the
clerk
I
to
to
the
actual
measure.
I
did
not
vote
for
it
because
I
think
it's
bad
practice
to
have
a
separation
vote
on
a
separation
agreement
before
we've
done
an
investigation.
E
E
And
I'm
hoping
that
you
know
this
doesn't
preclude
us
from
a
full
throated
apology
at
the
conclusion
of
this
investigation
and
and
and
doesn't
preclude
us
from
from
releasing
as
much
information
as
we
need
to
ensure
that
this
does
not
happen
again.
I
also
think
it's
it's,
you
know
had
take
our
current
city
manager
out
of
out
of
the
equation
and
just
about.
E
I
think
it's
bad
practice
to
if,
if
someone
has
done
something
wrong
well
under
our
watch,
whether
it's
a
police
officer
or
it's
a
city
manager,
it's
whoever
it
is,
we
should
hold
that
person
accountable
and
we
should
not
allow
them
to
go
on
to
another
community,
I'm
particularly
thinking
of
police
officers
and
and
and
not
have
that
mark
against
them,
and
I
can't
say
that
you
know
manager,
storlee
or
anyone
else
is
culpable.
E
G
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
I
want
to
address
the
the
topic
of
transparency
and
also
talk
about
an
apology
and
so
specifically
on
transparency.
I
agree
with
council
member
kelly
that
we
owe
the
public
full
transparency
to
the
extent
possible
while
protecting
the
identities
of
any
victims.
G
9
accomplishes
that
that
sentence
reads
this
paragraph
does
not
apply
to
any
information
that
has
been
made
available
to
the
public
or
is
required
to
be
disclosed
by
law,
and
so
it
is
my
intention
that,
whatever
the
results
of
this
investigation,
in
whatever
form
we
receive
them,
that
we
will
be
honoring
our
commitments
to
transparency
and
making
all
the
information
available
to
the
public
that
that
we're
able
to
and
on
the
the
topic
of
of
apology,
it's
over
due,
I
think
it's
time
for
us
to
start
talking
about
an
apology.
G
A
No
one
who
hasn't
spoken
yet
is
seeking
recognition.
Councilmember
kelly
has
to
speak
a
second
time
if
you
could
keep
it
condensed.
That
would
be
great,
but
go
ahead.
Council
member.
B
So
that
last
sentence
is
really
superfluous.
I
mean
it
says:
whatever's
been
made
public,
we
can
make
public.
Basically,
I'm
sorry
that
just
that
doesn't
add
anything
that
paragraph
nine
isn't
necessarily
about
shielding
even
erica
sterling's
about
shielding
everybody.
Who's
come
into
contact
with
her.
It's
about
shielding
many
things
that
have
happened
over
the
last
17
years
and
again,
a
personnel
file
by
law
is
kept
private,
and
why
can't
we
stick
with
that?
I
don't
understand.
B
A
Thank
you,
councilwoman.
A
Yeah,
thank
you,
councilmember.
I
was
going
to
speak
to
that
very
question
right
now,
because
I
think
I
think
the
concerns
that
have
been
expressed
both
during
public
comment
and
on
the
diocese
are
utterly
critical,
and
so
I
wanted
to
speak
to
a
few
things.
A
First
of
all,
fair
point,
someone
someone,
I
believe
one
of
the
remote
commenters
said
that
they
were
unaware
of
whether
or
not
the
investigation
was
underway,
fair
point,
so
the
investigation
is
underway.
A
One
thing
that
I
think
is
critical
to
say:
we
will
not
direct
the
investigation.
Our
staff
will
not
direct
the
investigation,
the
investigation
is
independent
and
our
role
is
to
cooperate
with
it,
and
that
is
the
mandate
that
we
place
upon
all
of
our
staff.
It's
also
the
responsibility
that
mrs
storley
has
signed
on
to
subsequent
her
employment.
Pursuant
to
the
vote
that
occurred
tonight
to
council
member
burns
question
and
to
another
question
that
was
raised
tonight
about
hey.
Why
does
this
say
report
if
any?
A
A
What
is
critical
in
my
opinion
is
that
in
the
agreement
that
was
passed
tonight,
we
did
not
relinquish
our
right
to
make
as
much
of
that
public
as
we
want
to
make
public.
That
will
be
our
call
when
we
get
it
now
I'll
tell
you
right
now.
I
believe
there
should
be
a
written
report
and
there's
no
secret
agenda
where
it
says,
if
any
that's
just
covering
all
the
bases
under
the
principle
that
nothing
in
the
agreement
passed
tonight
should
bind
us
in
any
way.
A
Regarding
the
investigation,
the
investigation
continues
as
though
this
agreement
did
not
occur,
with
full
cooperation
with
a
work
product
that
we
guide
and
public
disclosure
that
we
determine,
and
you
heard
several
people
on
this
council
people
who
voted
yes
and
people
who
voted
no
talk
about
their
commitment
to
transparency.
I
share
that.
I
think
that
we
commissioned
this
report
for
a
number
of
different
reasons.
One
is
to
get
to
the
bottom
of
what
happened
for
our
own
information
to
better
understand
what
changes
we
need
to
effectuate
inside
the
city.
A
Government
and
one
is
for
transparency
with
the
public,
and
so
my
own
view
is
that
there's
a
very
strong
bias
toward
transparency
here.
There
are
certain
things
like
we
already
mentioned.
You
know,
for
example,
the
names
of
victims
that
absolutely
should
not
be
disclosed,
but
in
my
view,
when
we
got
this
report
back
the
things
that
for
which
there's
no
strong
clear
reason
not
to
disclose,
ought
to
be
disclosed.
That's
what
I'll
be
advocating
for,
and
my
sense
talking
with
my
colleagues
up
here
is
that's
not
going
to
be
a
controversial
view.
A
So
I
I
don't
you
know
I
I
hear
skepticism
coming
from
the
public
and
I
I
don't
have
a
hard
time
understanding
where
that
comes
from,
given
the
fact
that
here
we
are
in
august
of
2021,
when
these
allegations
were
first
brought
to
the
attention
of
city
staff
13
months
ago,
at
least,
but
nothing
that
we've
done
that's
been
done
tonight
binds
our
hands.
A
B
So,
just
and
then
so
only
isolated
to
the
report.
Therefore,
we
can
relay
things
like
this
email
here
between
former
mayor
hagerty
and
erica
storley,
where
they
both
revealed
that
they
knew
about
this
and
there's
an
exchange
of
emails.
So
we
could
discuss
that
correct,
even
though
that's
erica's
employment,
I
just
want
to
make
that
clear.
B
I'm
just
saying,
in
light
of
the
sentence
that
says,
you
know,
keep
confidential
information
relating
to
eric
castorle's
employment,
so
her
conversations
with
mayor
hagerty,
where
they
both
clearly
knew
about
this
and
had
been
informed
about
this.
So
things
like
that
can
be
discussed
then,
despite
this
sentence
in
the
in
paragraph
nine,
as
well
as
other
things,
not
even
about
the
report.
What
about
other
issues
that
come
up
regarding
her
employment
that
maybe
are
of
interest
to
the
public
that
might
involve
her
and
other
employees?
A
You
know,
I'm
not
a
lawyer
and
I
don't
want
to
wade
into
every
hypothetical,
but
what
I
will
say
is
that
what
I
wanted
to
check
into
for
my
own
priorities
and
values
was
that
this
doesn't
bind
us
from
releasing
information.
B
I
just
need
an
answer
to
that
question
so,
for
example,
erica
sterli's
conversations,
for
example,
with
mayor
hagerty
regarding
the
incident
last
year
when
they
had
email
exchange,
we
can
open.
We
can
discuss
that,
even
though
it
says
here
in
paragraph
nine
that
I'm
her
employment.
You
know
we
can't
discuss
your
employment
experience
I'll.
I
A
B
E
T
Good
evening,
honorable
mayor
abyss
and
members
of
the
council,
deputy
city
attorney
michelle
osoribo,
I
could
just
have
the
question
one
more
time
then
I
can.
I
can
see
if
I
can
weigh
in
on
that.
Thank
you.
So
the
question.
B
Is
so,
for
example,
when
we
see
so
I
was
just
recently
given
a
and
you
know
an
email
exchange
between
with
erica
jennifer
lynn
and
mayor
hagerty,
where
they
were
discussing
the
incident
and
the
petition
and
talking
about
putting
it
on
the
docket
which
it
didn't
appear.
So
I'd
also
like
to
know
it
didn't
show.
I
guess
it
wasn't
an
executive
or
the
council
where
mayor
haggerty
asked
that
this
be
discussed.
B
So
you
know
that's
part
of
erica's
employment
history,
and
I
think
it
says
here
in
the
sentence
that
we
are.
We
have
to
keep
confidential
information
relating
to
storley's
employment.
So
would
that
preclude
us
from
discussing
that,
for
example,
her
employment,
as
it
relates
to
conversations
that
she
had
about
the
incident
or
incidents
and
the
petition
last
year.
T
So,
based
on
the
hypothetical
that's
posed,
if
I
would
agree
that
under
the
language
in
in
this
agreement,
if
there
is
information
that
relates
to
ms
sterli's
employment
and
the
sentence
reads
that
we
cannot
disclose
relating
to
her
employment,
then
I
think
that
we
would
abide
by
that
language,
as
already
mentioned,
then
anything
in
the
report.
T
That
would
be
different,
because
that
would
be
something
that
we
would
share.
So
I
believe
that's
the
way
that
it
reads.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
I'm
I'm
gonna
bring
this
to
an
end,
there's
not
really
on
an
agenda
item,
but
because
of
the
importance
of
the
issue
I
didn't
wanna.
I
wanted
to
be
respectful
of
folks
that
I'd
speak
up,
councilmember
reid,
very
briefly,
and
then
I'll
entertain
a
motion.
E
Yes,
I
just
if
I
understood
our
corporation
counsel
correctly,
that
if
the
situation
that
council
member
kelly
just
brought
up
doesn't
make
it
into
the
report,
for
example,
we
could
not
disclose
that.
Is
that
what
I
just
understood.
B
I
B
A
S
I
just
want
to
say
the
fifth
war
of
residents,
so
emails
are
one
of
the
more
commonly
foiable
and
released
documents,
and
so
the
email
that
we
that
was
just
described
by
one
of
my
colleagues
is
is
a
document
that
is
common.
The
person
who
was
who
likely
requested
that
email
and
received
the
email
did
not
have
to
do
any
deep
spy.
S
You
know
activity
to
get
it,
they
filed
a
foia
request,
they
received
it
if
they,
if
they
had
access
to
it.
Certainly
the
full
council
here
would
have
access
to
those
emails,
as
well
as
the
the
outside
legal
counsel,
handling
the
investigation.
So
I
just
want
to
go
on
record
saying
I.
I
fully
expect
the
the
findings
of
this
investigation
to
be
released
to
the
public.
That
is
my
expectation.
S
G
A
Council
member
newsman
moves
that
we
convene
into
executive
session
to
discuss
personnel
council
member
fleming
seconds.
Will
the
clerk
call
the
roll.