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B
The
first
item
on
our
agenda
is
a
it
was
my
announcements
and
proclamations
specifically
Proclamation
and
support
of
the
Children's
Advocacy
Center
of
North
and
Northwest
Cook
County,
which
will
be
sent
to
the
Advocacy
Center
just
to
redo
the
the
Highlight
here,
therefore,
I
do
hereby
Proclaim
August
2023
as
Children's
Advocacy
advocacy
center
of
North
and
Northwest
Cook
County
month
in
the
City
of
Evanston
in
celebration
of
its
34th
anniversary,
and
we
extend
our
heartfelt
appreciation
to
the
staff
volunteers,
board
members
and
all
that's
associated
with
the
CAC
for
their
tireless
efforts,
compassion
and
the
positive
impact
they
have
made
on
the
lives
of
Children
and
Families
throughout
the
years.
B
This
concludes
my
announcements
and
proclamations.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
city
manager's
public
announcements.
Yes,.
F
Good
evening
Mr
Mayor
members
of
city
council
clerk
Mendoza
I
am
pleased
tonight
to
introduce
Mr
Andy
Vick
I'm,
going
to
ask
him
to
come
up
to
the
podium
here.
Just
briefly,
Mr
Vic
is
is
raised
in
Evanston
eths
grad,
most
most
recently
spent
time
in
the
Colorado
Springs
area
and
has
now
returned
to
Evans
to
serve
as
executive
director
of
downtown
Everson
with
that
I'll.
Let
you
introduce
yourself
thank.
G
You
Luke
I
appreciate
that
good
evening,
everyone
as
Mr
Stowe,
said
my
name-
is
Andy
Vick
I
am
pleased
to
be
the
new
executive
director
of
the
downtown
Evanston
special
service
area.
I
am
three
weeks
into
my
new
role,
so
lots
to
learn
lots
to
do.
I
am
thrilled
to
be
back
home.
You
may
know
some
of
my
family.
My
brother
Bob
is
a
fourth
grade
teacher
in
The
District
65
system
at
Willard
School.
My
youngest
brother
Steve
is
the
executive
director
of
the
infant
Welfare
Society
of
Evanston.
G
My
mother
was
a
former
kindergarten
teacher,
so
I
have
lots
of
people
in
this
community.
Lots
of
love
for
this
community
and
I
am
really
looking
forward
to
working
hard
to
make
our
downtown
and
the
entire
city
a
more
vibrant
and
welcoming
place.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
the
opportunity
to
be
before
you
today.
I
look
forward
to
meeting
you,
many
of
you
personally
in
the
coming
days
and
working
with
you
over
the
coming
months
and
years.
So
thank
you
very
much
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
If
you
have
it
otherwise,.
I
How
long
have
you
been
in
the
role
I
think
it's
just
three
weeks,
three
weeks
now,
what
do
you?
What
do
you
see
as
opportunities
for
downtown
and
what
are
you
excited
for
us
to
maybe
support
you
in
if
you
know
yet
well,.
G
I
could
make
a
few
things
up
for
you,
but
I'm
still
learning
a
lot
for
me
right
now.
The
important
thing
is
to
meet
the
right
partners
and
stakeholders
and
understand
from
them
what
they
need
and
what
they
want.
I
think
I
have
a
lot
of
ideas.
Over
the
last
20
years,
I've
worked
in
downtown's,
smaller
and
larger,
so
I
have
a
lot
of
experience
and
I.
G
Think
I
can
pull
bits
and
nuggets
from
those
experiences
and
and
perhaps
bring
them
to
Bear
here
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
to
fill
our
downtown
with
more
bodies
with
more
retail,
with
more
restaurants
and
and
really
create
an
even
larger,
critical
mass.
It's
a
challenge.
I
don't
have
the
answers
yet,
but
that's
certainly
how
I'm
going
to
be
focusing
more
programming.
G
I
And
one
one
thing
just
as
I'm
sure
you,
this
is
on
your
mind
already,
but
as
a
part
of
the
stakeholders
that
you're
engaging
about
downtown.
Sometimes
it's
the
folks
that
we're
not
seeing
downtown.
That
I
think
are
a
key
group
that
we
need
to
reach
out
to
and
figure
out
how
we
can
get
particularly
folks
from
the
eighth
Ward
Fifth
Ward
in
minority
communities
to
feel
downtown
is.
G
B
Thank
you,
I'll
just
add
to
the
welcome
home
comments.
As
someone
who
has
two
children
who
were
fourth
grade,
students
of
Mr
Vic,
your
your
household,
is
your
family
is
one
of
celebrity
and
intimidation
in
my
household
so
welcome
home.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
Communications
from
the
city
clerk.
C
I
also
want
to
take
a
minute
to
say:
welcome
home
I,
know
Andy's
brother
very
well
and
know
how
great
your
family
has
been
to
this
community
and
so
glad
to
see
you
here
and
I
know
you're,
just
as
fully
invested
in
the
community
as
they
are
I
have
public
comment
from
Anne
Rainey.
It's
it
begins,
I
realize
you
are
not
approving
a
Special
Service
District
tonight.
This
ordinance
setting
the
foundation
for
district
10
Howard
Street,
is
premature
and
should
not
be
introduced
and
acted
upon
tonight.
Most
property
owners
are
caught
by
surprise.
C
B
Thank
you
very
much.
That
brings
us
to
public
comment
this
evening.
We
have
comparatively
smaller
number
of
public
commenters
and
therefore
everyone
will
be
given
three
minutes.
We
begin,
as
always,
with
those
who
signed
up
in
person
on
this
sheet
to
speak,
beginning
with
Eric
Bassett,
who
will
be
followed
by
Rob
Bush
and
then
zafira
Peppa
stretaros.
J
Hi,
my
name
is
Eric
passett
and
I'm,
a
resident
of
the
fourth
ward,
and
also
the
owner
of
North
Shore
apartments
and
condos
I'm,
here
kind
of
for
two
reasons.
Tonight
one
is
I
read
and
also
know
that
connections
for
the
homeless
is
actually
is
asking
for
more
money,
more
funding,
saying
their
funding
is
basically
running
out
and
the
part
that
I
really
struggle
with
about
that
is
when
I
know
Margarita,
you
could
say,
is
something
separate,
but
it's
all
the
same
organization.
They
came
to
us
and
said
we
don't
need
money.
J
We
just
need
a
place
to
have
to
basically
house
our
homeless
well
now,
they're
asking
in
a
very
short
period
of
time
for
more
money,
a
lot
more
money,
I
know
one
of
the
aldermen
had
an
issue
with
that
and
you
could
say
it's
federal
dollars,
but
where's
the
federal
dollars
going
for
downtown
Evanston
to
improve
businesses.
I've
heard
how
much
of
that
5
million
has
been
spent
very
little
of
it
and,
what's
going
to
happen
year,
two
connections
for
the
homeless
budgets
up
to
14.9
million
dollars.
J
Where
is
that
money
going
to
come
from
next
year?
Private
funding
I
doubt
it
where's
year
three
going
to
come
from
year.
Four
year:
five,
it's
we're
going
to
continuously
go
back
to
the
well
and
when
we
were
sold
a
bill
of
goods.
Basically,
we
were
sold
that
they
were
well
funded,
and
that
is
completely
not
the
truth.
So
I
just
would
like
that
note
it,
and
the
other
reason
I'm
here
is
is
again.
You
know.
Where
is
we
have
committees
about
just
about
everything?
J
I
just
became
part
of
the
Just
Cause
committee,
but
I
haven't
heard
a
committee
asking
for
business
owners
to
get
involved
in.
How
are
we
going
to
improve
downtown
Evanston?
We
have
so
much
vacant
space.
We
have
a
a
block
that
we
manage
in
downtown
Wilmette.
We
had
one
space
became
available.
We
had
like
15
people
wanted
it.
We
have
several
spaces
in
downtown
Evanston,
I
I,
don't
have
people
knocking
on
my
door
for
them.
J
You
know
when
it
I
mean
we've
had
a
lot
again.
We,
how
much
of
that
five
million
dollars
have
been
allocated
towards
that
and
the
last
thing
I'll
say,
is
I
live
literally
right.
Next
to
the
Rose
Garden
and
again
we
hired
a
clean
team
to
clean
up
downtown
I,
can't
tell
you
how
often
our
garbage
can
is
full
several
times
a
week.
It's
not
emptied
and
it's
it's
not
what
we
spend
all
our
tax
dollars
on.
I
mean
it's
just.
J
This
is
not
what
I
moved
to
Evanston
I
know
some
friends
who've
actually
been
putting
bids
on
homes
in
other
suburbs
wanting
to
move
out
and
it's
when
they
thought
it
was
their
forever
home.
So
do
I.
You
know,
I,
don't
want
to
move
out
of
Evanston,
not
in
a
million
years
I'd
like
to
see
it
improved.
So
that's
enough
set.
Thank
you.
B
D
Good
evening
Mr,
Mayor
and
council
members,
my
name
is
Rob
Bush
I'm,
the
chair
of
the
Park
and
Recreation
Commission
and
I
was
here
to
speak
on
item
a26,
which
the
park
board's
been
a
great
deal
of
time
discussing
at
its
meeting
on
June
15th,
but
I
understand
that
this
item
has
not
passed
out
of
committee.
It
was
voted
down
and
therefore
it
will
not
be
on
tonight's
agenda
for
any
vote
and
therefore
I
don't
need
to
say
what
I
was
going
to
say.
D
It's
one
of
the
main
attractions
that
we
have
in
this
town
and
if
you
have,
and
each
one
of
you
I
believe
probably
has
a
park
within
your
ward,
that
is
a
legacy.
Parker
will
soon
be
a
Legacy
Park,
meaning
that
either
equipment
is
going
to
be
removed
or
some
other
remedial
action
will
have
to
be
taken
in
order
to
maintain
the
safety
of
those
parks.
So
I'll
see
you
again.
Thank
you.
B
K
Hi
I'm
here
on
the
behalf
of
the
southeast,
Evanston
Association
and
I,
wanted
to
speak
in
support
of
the
tree.
Ordinance
I
just
wanted
to
bring
a
couple
of
facts
to
light,
because
I
believe
that
it's
a
very
important
ordinance
to
be
passed
and
I
wanted
to
share
with
you
that
there
may
be
a
few
things
that
could
improve
with
it.
But
as
it
is,
it's
important
to
pass
it
because
it's
just
been
considered
for
so
long
that,
once
it
becomes
enacted,
there's
still
an
opportunity
to
improve
it
as
needed.
K
One
of
the
most
important
elements
of
keeping
a
healthy
canopy
is
the
heat
recently
Heat
at
the
valley.
Parking
lot
was
recorded
at
118
degrees
and
within
a
mile
in
the
shade
it
was
76..
That's
significant,
mature
trees
release
a
lot
of
water
during
a
hot
day,
provided
that
they
have
been
watered
and
they
do
quite
a
bit.
I,
don't
know
how
all
of
you
feel
when
you're
near
a
tree,
but
they
do
quite
a
bit
to
create
a
much
healthier
environment
both
for
the
community.
K
K
It
helps
mitigate
air
pollution,
carbon
monoxide,
particulate
matter,
nitrogen
dioxide,
so
for
the
quality
of
the
era
that
we
breathe
and
after
the
recent
event
with
the
Canadian
wildfires
I,
think
that
the
air
quality
is
something
that
we're
considering
more
and
more,
it's
very
important
to
have
a
healthy
canopy.
It
helps
people
relax,
it
creates
quieter
streets
noise.
It
absorbs
quite
a
bit
of
noise,
the
more
trees
that
you
have.
K
L
Good
evening,
thank
you
very
much.
It's
been
a
short
summer.
It
seems
like
I,
haven't
seen
you
for
about
a
month.
Hope
you
all
had
a
good
vacation.
I
wanted
to
comment
a
little
bit
about
the
trees,
but
I
have
a
totally
different
take
on
it.
I
agree
with
saving
the
trees,
saving
the
environment.
My
problem
is:
is
that
going
on
to
people's
private
property
in
order
to
take
care
of
those
trees?
L
I've
spoken
before
about
taking
care
of
our
public
property,
taking
the
snow
off
of
our
sidewalks,
taking
the
alley
out
the
snow
out
of
our
alleys,
we
need
to
take
care
of
our
own
property
before
you
go
on
to
people's
private
property
and
say
what
they
need
to
do
with
their
property.
We
need
to
take
care
of
the
city's
property.
L
We
made
a
mistake
in
James,
Park
spent
eight
million
dollars
on
a
lawsuit.
That
was
totally
your
all
your
attorneys
suggested
against
it,
but
we
went
ahead
and
wasted
the
money.
Anyhow,
we
have
Fountain
Square,
seven
million
dollars
that,
with
a
broken
Fountain,
we
spent
50
million
dollars
on
Robert
Crown
that
the
floor
is
cracked.
After
a
couple
of
years,
who's
going
to
repair
that,
if
you
spent
50
million
dollars
on
a
new
property,
would
you
accept,
after
a
couple
of
years,
your
floor
to
be
cracked
I?
L
L
We
had
a
problem
with
I
forgot
the
the
Community
Center
that
it
water
backed
up
and
caused
us
to
put
in
a
new
floor.
It
who's
watching
who's.
Watching
our
money.
There's
a
problem,
big
problem.
L
We
have
200
million
dollars
in
general
obligation
debt
we're
paying
1.2
million
a
month
just
for
Debt
Service
on
those
bonds
and
they're
still
on
tonight's
agenda,
more
General
obligation,
bonds
to
be
spent.
Why
you
found
14
million
dollars
what
a
couple
months
ago
and
the
14
million
turned
out
to
45
million
or
57
million,
and
we're
still
borrowing
money
and
we're
not
taking
care
of
our
own
obligations.
We
need
to
do
that.
We
need
to
take
care
of
I
agree
with
this
gentleman
who
talked
about
Evanston.
People
want
to
stay
in
Evanston.
L
What's
going
on,
downtown
Evanston
losing
business
is
left
and
right.
We
need
to
take
care
of
business.
Thank
you
very
much
have
a
good
night.
B
M
M
When
we
moved
in
three
years
ago
from
our
window
there
used
to
be
there
was
this
beautiful
silver
maple
that
we
used
to
watch
kids
play
in
and
I
would
honestly
tell
you
that
my
wife
and
I
used
to
just
watch
kids
play
because
it
was
such
a
miserable
time
for
everyone,
and
that
would
bring
us
so
much
joy.
That
area
in
between
where
my
house
is
where
the
golf
course
is,
there's
a
little
Nook
of
green
space.
M
That
is
a
little
bit
Nook
of
life.
It's
a
thoroughfare
for
people
walking
by
it,
kids
play
in
it
there's
a
little
fort
and
part
of
it,
and
we've
recently
learned
that
apparently
next
week,
those
trees,
many
of
those
trees
will
be
taken
down
as
part
of
the
canal.
Shores
renovation,
I'm,
a
big
fan
of
canal
Shores,
I,
really
adore
the
the
course
for
two
years,
I
volunteered
helping
out
with
the
pet.
With
that
trail,
clearing
the
trail
cutting
down
invasive
species,
I
believe
in
community
golf
course,
I,
I
love.
M
These
hundred-year-old
maple
trees,
I
hope
we
can
do
something
to
pause
the
taking
these
down
and
do
something
to
at
least
make
sure
that
it's
part
of
a
master
plan
I
do
know
that
they
are
replacing
the
trees
with
saplings,
but
it's
hard
to
replace
100
year
old
trees
and
I
just
hope
we
can
do
something
to
try
to
preserve
these
trees.
That's
all.
Thank
you.
B
N
So,
in
addition
to
kind
of
Mark's
argument,
you
know
we
have,
and
the
city
is
committed
to
The
Climate
action
and
resilience
plan,
the
cart
plan,
and
as
part
of
that
you
know,
we
have
a
special
section,
all
about
Urban,
canopy
and
green
space.
I,
don't
need
to
talk
about
what
the
benefits
are.
That's
already
been
done,
but
what's
happening
right
now,
on
Canal
Shores
is
in
direct
conflict
with
our
carp
commitments
and
so
I
like
Mark
I'm,
asking
for
this
to
pause,
at
least
until
we
understand.
Are
we
doing
this?
The
right
way?
N
O
Good
evening
my
name
is
David
I'm,
a
Seventh
Ward
resident
and
president
of
the
most
livable
City
Association,
which,
as
many
of
you
know,
is
a
community
non-profit,
opposed
to
the
current
plans
for
Ryan
Field.
Yesterday
we
copied
you
all
on
our
group's
open
letter
in
response
to
the
University's
latest
plan
to
commercialize
its
athletic
campus.
In
a
letter
we
argued
that
evanstonians
deserve
an
open
and
straightforward
process
both
from
the
University
and
from
our
public
officials.
O
I'd
like
to
give
just
a
couple
examples
where
the
process
doesn't
seem
to
be
meeting
the
mark.
One
example
is
before
you
tonight
item
ed1
on
the
agenda:
requester
approval
of
funding
for
Chicago's
North,
Shore
convention
and
Visitors
Bureau,
since
at
least
December.
However,
the
convention
and
visitors
bureau
and
its
executive
director
have
been
lobbying
and
campaigning
in
favor
of
northwestern's
Ryan
Field
proposal,
which
thousands
of
evanstonians
oppose.
O
But
why
is
an
organization
funded
by
our
tax
dollars
allowed
to
lobby
and
campaign
for
something?
So
many
people
in
Evanston
don't
want
I
urge
you
to
vote
no
on
this
request
for
funding,
or
at
least
refer
it
back
to
the
economic
development
committee
and
to
City
staff
to
determine
a
way
to
restrict
the
group
from
lobbying
on
behalf
of
Northwestern.
O
O
Recently
the
city
Nu
joined
together
to
ask
a
federal
court
to
restrict
residence
ability
to
voice
their
objections
about
Ryan
Field
and
the
current
proposals
during
committee
meetings.
Why
did
the
city
do
that?
What
explanation
could
there
be
for
agreeing
with
Northwestern
to
make
that
kind
of
legal
maneuver?
O
O
If
you're
willing
to
hear
from
our
side,
which
doesn't
have
the
resources
of
the
University
or
the
billionaire
backers
of
this
proposal,
I
believe
you
will
find
that
the
way
the
evidence
is
against
the
current
proposals
and
so
I
ask
you
to
give
us
a
fair
hearing
before
you
make
up
your
mind.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
very
much
that
appears
to
conclude
the
portion
of
public
comment
of
people
who
requested
to
speak
in
person
just
because
there's
a
lot
of
people.
A
lot
of
human
beings
here
who
do
not
speak,
am
I
missing
anybody
from
either
of
my
lists.
P
B
Are
signed
up,
you
signed
up
to
speak
at
a
committee,
so
that
was
a
that.
Can.
Q
B
So,
given
the
relatively
short
public
comment
tonight,
I'll,
let
you
both
speak
just
in
the
future.
If
I
could
ask
everyone
to
make
sure
they
sign
up
properly
just
so,
we
can
make.
You
know,
manage
the
allocation
of
time
in
a
way.
That's
both
consistent
with
our
rules
and
fair
to
everybody.
But
why
don't
you
both
come
to
both
be
given
three
minutes?
It
will
still
be
under
the
45
minutes
in
total,
so
go
ahead.
E
Good
evening
my
name
is
Matt
Cotter
I'm,
a
resident
of
the
second
ward
I,
am
a
volunteer
with
the
North
Shore
Channel
habitat
project.
I
am
an
open
land
certified
tree
keeper
and
the
co-chair
of
the
environment
board
and
I'm
here
to
speak
in
support
of
pd1.
The
amendment
to
the
tree,
protection,
ordinance
and
I
will
be
brief.
With
upwards
of
80
percent
of
evanston's
tree
canopy
on
private
land,
an
overwhelming
majority
of
our
Urban
Forest
has
effectively
no
legal
protection
at
President.
E
We
all
know
the
Myriad
benefits
the
trees
have
for
biodiversity,
for
human
health
and
for
the
climate
and
I
think
more
innately.
All
of
us
can
feel
the
Deep
interconnectedness
of
the
trees
and
the
ecosystem.
We
live
in
with
human
society,
and
we
know
that
those
connections
extend
beyond
property
lines,
I'm
filled
with
hope,
with
the
possibility
of
extending
our
Collective
protection
to
five
times
as
many
trees
in
Evanston
and
I
urge
you
to
support
this.
Thank
you
very
much.
R
My
name
is
Michael
Kroll
I'm,
a
resident
of
the
second
ward,
and
my
girlfriend
and
I
recently
moved
into
Evanston
in
April,
due
to
his
accessible
Transit,
walkable
neighborhoods
and
relatively
decent
bike,
bicycle
infrastructure.
While
we
still
enjoy
taking
Transit
around
the
city
and
walking
around
the
area,
we
are
no
longer
able
to
enjoy
biking
in
the
area.
R
This
is
because
in
late
June,
while
my
girlfriend
was
biking
to
the
train
station
as
part
of
her
commute
to
school,
she
was
hit
by
a
car
that
did
not
stop
at
the
intersection
of
Lake
Street
and
Asbury
Avenue.
While
she
was
lucky
to
Come
Away
with
no
major
injuries
other
than
scrapes
and
bruises.
This
is
made
her
feel
unsafe,
riding
her
bike
along
any
road.
R
This
includes
unprotected
or
buffered
bike,
Lanes
like
on
Emerson,
Street
or
Church
Street,
that
a
car
is
still
getting
too
close
to
the
lanes
and
even
the
parking
protected
Lanes
like
on
Davis
Street
or
Dodge
Avenue,
due
to
the
lack
of
protection
at
intersections,
leaving
cyclists
subject
to
the
right
hook.
The
only
bicycle
routes
in
the
area
she
will
bike
on
are
the
lake
short
path
and
the
Chicago
Avenue
protected
bike.
Lanes
we're
living
a
mile
away
from
them.
We
have
no
accessible
route
for
her
to
get
there.
R
We
can't
blame
the
density
on
the
area
causing
more
traffic
and
more
rescue
being
hit.
She
had
left
the
house
that
day
at
5
30
a.m
to
catch
a
six
o'clock
train
as
she
had
an
exam
and
wanted
to
get
on
campus
early.
This
meant,
while
the
there
was
little
to
no
traffic
in
the
area
and
should
have
been
even
safer
than
all
of
previous
rides.
The
fact
she
got
hit
in
the
preferred
admissions
for
a
cyclist
shows
a
failure
of
infrastructure
allowing
drivers
to
be
careless
on
open
roads
at
minimum.
R
There
should
be
a
stop
signal
or
some
major
traffic
calming,
but
preferably
both
added
to
the
intersection
of
Lake
Street
and
Asbury
Avenue.
This
is
known
very
well
as
a
dangerous
intersection,
as
drivers
will
use
as
Ray
Avenue,
to
avoid
the
stop
single
at
Lake,
Street
and
Ridge
Avenue.
Since
the
intersection
at
Lake,
Street
and
Asbury,
Avenue
only
has
a
four-way
stop
sign.
The
city
really
needs
to
be
acting
more
on
on
Prop,
making
proper
and
safe
infrastructure
cyclists
in
the
community.
R
If
it
wants
to
be
the
15-minute
City
prosecutive
students,
including
prospective
residents
including
me,
saw
it
as
I
know.
There
are
many
or
a
few
projects
going
on
this
summer,
such
as
extension
of
curbs
at
the
intersections
along
Ridge
Avenue,
an
addition
of
a
bike
path
along
Oakton
Street
between
Dodge
Avenue
and
the
North
Shore
Channel
Trail,
but
there
needs
to
be
more
being
done
to
make
cyclists
feel
safe
while
biking
in
the
area.
R
I
and
many
others
have
been
adding
lots
of
comments
and
concerns
to
the
Illinois
active
Transportation
plan,
interactive
map
and,
while
there's
a
fair
bit
of
green
on
the
map,
there's
still
a
large
amount
of
orange
routes
and
Commons
throughout
the
area.
I
do
hope
that
the
city
takes
these
concerns
a
heart
and
are
able
to
make
it
a
place
that
is
safer
to
bike,
not
just
for
people
like
me,
they'll
put
up
with
the
poor
infrastructure,
but
for
people
like
my
girlfriend
that
won't
ride
because
they
know
how
unsafe
it
is.
B
Thank
you
very
much
and
I'm
glad
that
she
was
not
injured
more
seriously.
My
goodness.
B
Q
Thank
you
just
quickly
on
item
818
spoke
about
it
at
length
at
APW,
on
February
27
2023,
the
city
council,
City
staff
committed
to
a
total
project
cost
for
the
animal
shelter
of
eight
million
dollars.
Q
A
round
number
was
flashed
upon
the
screen,
and
yet
all
the
staff
confirmed
during
question
and
answers
with
Council
that
all
costs,
including
the
low
bid
construction
cost
at
that
the
need
contingencies,
contingencies
for
escalation
and
change,
orders
and
soil
remediation,
all
consultant
fees,
all
soft
costs,
costs
for
temporary
facilities
for
cats
and
dogs
off-site
traffic
signalization
and
permit
costs
of
any
kind
without
exception.
No
project
cost
would
exceed
eight
million
dollars.
I
understand
we're
waiting
for
a
chart
to
be
prepared.
Q
Q
The
real
reason
I'm
speaking
tonight,
following
up
on
David
decarlo's
excellent
comments,
while
you're
all
on
vacation
and
unfortunate
and
destructive
flow
of
events
occurred
intentionally
to
undermine
the
authority
of
City
Council
Members,
specifically
in
this
case,
undermining
the
authority
of
the
Court
decreed,
and
you
do
City
committee
meeting.
This
is
not
a
conspiracy
theory.
What
took
place
was
done
was
well
documented
and
is
a
conspiracy.
Q
The
hearings,
the
refuri
scheduled
by
Mr
Cummings,
now
who's
no
longer
with
the
city,
but
his
office
and
Northwestern
University
were
scheduled
secretly
without
the
knowledge
of
any
of
the
council
members.
How
could
that
be?
How
could
council
members
not
be
informed
of
such
Court
hearings
intended
to
undermine
Council
Authority,
an
independent
investigation
and
a
forensic
audit
are
needed
and
it
should
be
funded
by
the
city,
but
not
managed
by
City
officials
who
cannot
be
trusted,
especially
the
office
of
the
Corporation
Council.
Q
So
there
were
two
hearings:
there's
a
series
of
dates
with
or
other
these,
these
memorandums
to
the
court
were
submitted.
That's
all
been
documented,
very
carefully.
This
has
been
well
publicized.
Q
Officials,
it
sends
me
that
the
city
manager
Stowe
admitted
that
he
was
aware
of
Cummings
intent
to
undermine
and
you
and
you
committee
meeting
what
we
don't
know
is
who
else
was
involved?
We
know
the
city
manager
was
involved,
I
know
the
Corporation
Council,
we
know
Northwestern
was
involved,
we
don't
know
if
the
mayor
was
involved.
We
don't
know
who
other
council
members
who
knew
and
shouldn't
have
known
so
I'm
calling
for
an
investigation.
That's.
S
Q
For
that
should
take
place
every
member
of
the
council.
T
All
right,
thank
you,
so
much
I
agree
with
everything,
David
DeCarlo
said,
and
what
and
also
what
Mike
was
just
talking
about,
because
even
though
no
one
knew
on
Consular
mayor
that
Cummings
was
having
this
hearing
and
he
had
scheduled
it
back
in
May
for
the
first
hearing
and
then
in
August
I
guess
it
was
or
after
the
second
one
we
knew
the
day
before.
So
he
could
have
been
told
to
withdraw
the
motion,
but
he
wasn't
told
to
withdraw
the
motion
and
it
was
public
knowledge
by
then
so
that
was
very
disappointing.
T
So
I
think
going
back
to
the
idea
of
process
is
important
because
it
builds
trust
in
our
community.
We
need
to
be
really
a
hyper
alert
here
in
Evanston,
because
we
have
bypassed
a
lot
of
processes.
He
actually
wanted
to
also
speak
to
three
things.
One
was
that
we
are
Tree
City,
as
you
well
know,
and
I
would
hope
that
we
would
pass
the
ordinance
we
may
not
pass
it
tonight
and
I
would
hope
that
we
don't
create
some
artificially
inflated
job
to
do
it.
T
They
should
be
able
to
go
through
the
Forestry
Department
and
the
committee
that
is
in
charge
of
the
trees.
I
would
like
to
know.
You
know
if
how
many
permits
we
do
need
on
an
annual
basis,
I
think
that's
hard
to
say,
but
in
construction.
How
many
times
have
we
had
trees
taken
down
is?
Are
we
I,
don't
think
we're
talking?
Thousands
I
think
you
could
call
Northbrook
they
Lakeport
and
see
how
they
do
it
without
having
to
hire
one
just
like
we
were
talking
about
having
a
leaf
blower.
T
Second,
a
lot
was
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
the
soul,
sir
sole
source
software
estimates
there's
six
of
them
I.
Think
in
today's
budget.
Maybe
that's
the
way
software
Works.
If
that
is
then
that's
legitimate,
but
if
not,
we
shouldn't
be
asking
how
come
we're
not
getting
competing
bids.
You
know.
T
B
Thank
you
very
much.
That
concludes
public
comment
for
the
evening.
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
special
orders
of
business,
of
which
there
are
only
one.
Would
someone
care
to
make
a
motion
relative
to
item
sp1
and
I
guess?
The
motion
that
I
would
be
asking
for
is
a
motion
to
initiate
a
discussion,
not
a
motion
to
take
a
particular
action
at
this
time.
B
Councilmember
Kelly
moves
that
we
enter
into
discussion
relative
to
the
enforcement
of
the
plastic
bag.
Ordinance
council
member
Harris
seconds
I
want
to
begin
by
turning
it
over
to
the
city
manager
to
kind
of
explain
the
context
for
this
item.
F
Sure
thank
you
Marin
good
evening.
We
have
a
business
on
noise
street
that
purchased
approximately
a
Year's
worth
of
plastic
bags
last
summer.
Well,
before
the
discussions
on
the
plastic
bag
ban,
ordinance
I
did
feel.
This
is
something
that
I
could
have
dealt
with
administratively,
but
I
felt
it
was
best
to
seek
guidance
from
the
city
council
on
this
issue.
I
had
multiple
conversations
with
multiple
council
members
and
the
the
business
in
question
has
several
months
left
of
plastic
bag.
Supply
and
I
had
a
conversation
with
the
owner
a
few
several
days
ago.
I
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
I
think
it's
important
that
we
we
passed
this
law.
We
passed
it
in
what
was
it
may
of
of
this
year.
I
It's
been
coming
down
the
the
pike
for
quite
some
time,
and
it
was
again
it
was
passed
in
May
I.
Think
many
businesses
had
a
a
good
warning
about
this
coming
I,
do
understand
the
concerns
about
leftover
product
and
understand
that
DND
is
a
smaller.
U
I
And
so,
with
that,
I'm
more
open
and
more
amenable
to
creating
an
exception
there,
although,
when
you
think
about
what
plastic
bags
are
in
the
first
place,
they're
giving
them
away
in
the
first
place,
so
I
don't
know
what
the
harm
in
you
know.
You'd
have
to
buy
some
new
bags,
but
you
know
Chuck
them
or
recycle
them
effectively,
and
you
know
switch
to
the
new
bags
but
I'm
open
to
hear
what
the
conversation
is,
and
you
know
if
we
create
a
carve
out
for
our
smaller
businesses
just
to
the
end
of
the
year.
I
A
Thank
you
so
I
think
when
I
look
back
over
our
January
9th
meeting
and
when
there
was
a
straw
stravo
taken,
the
majority
really
wanted
to
see
some
measures
implemented.
That
would
offer
some
protection
for
our
small
businesses
and
then
what
happened
and
at
that
point
the
ordinance
on
January
9th
stated
that
the
compliance
date
would
be
April
1st
of
2024
for
all
for
all
businesses.
A
A
It
went
from
originally
being
back
in
January
on
April
1st
2024
compliance
date
coming
back
to
council
in
at
the
end
of
May,
almost
in
June
within
August
1st
just
two
months
away,
so
that
didn't
go
I,
think
the
direction
that
we
intended
and
d
d
is
not
the
only
business
many
business,
including
large
ones,
who've
tried
to
make
some
accommodations
everybody
you
know
and
when
I
look
at
all
the
other,
all
of
the
other
plastic
bag
ordinances
in
all
cities
I've.
Yet
to
find
any
that
comes
anywhere
near
close
to
a
two-month
compliance.
A
I
think
this
was
just
a
council
oversight.
I
really
do
I,
don't
think
we
ever
would
have
passed
if
we
had
understood
hey,
we're,
cutting
it
down
from
a
year
and
a
half
down
to
two
months.
So
I
think
that
was
just
I
I
think
we
need
to
extend
it
I.
A
Think
even
January
1st
is
you
know,
that's
still
only
six
months,
but
definitely
far
better
and
allows
everybody
to
just
get
in
line
and
reminders
from
inspectors
are
helpful,
but
I
think
issuing
violence,
violations
or
fines
is
really
unreasonable
and
I
think
city
manager
Stowe
for
taking
the
initiative
to
bring
this
forward
to
seek
directions
so
again,
like
Boston,
it
was
six
a
year
and
a
half
they
passed
it
in
December
of
2017.
They
gave
a
year
for
the
large
places,
ten
thousand
feet
or
greater.
A
V
We
changed
the
date
and
I
think
I
mentioned
this
last
Monday
that
when
we
make
decisions
we
have
to
think
about
those
decisions
in
this
totality
I
had
a
business
in
my
ward
that
called
me
prior
to
and
said
we
have
thousands
and
thousands
of
dollars
in
bags
and
what
I
did
is
I
worked
with
our
sustainability
coordinator
manager,
director
boss,
whichever
title
you
have
all
of
them
and
we
figured
it
out
and
the
company
donated
twenty
four
thousand
dollars
worth
of
bags,
I
think
if
we
pass
a
law.
V
These
are
the
things
we
have
to
think
of
proactively,
not
after
the
fact.
If
we
make
law,
then
we
have
to
live
by
the
law
that
we
made.
So
there
would
be
no
way
I
could
get
behind
this.
When
I
made
one
of
my
businesses
donate
twenty
four
thousand
dollars
worth
of
bags
to
a
soup
kitchen,
so
I
do
have
that
name.
If
d
d
dog
wants
to
do
something
like
that,
they
did
get
a
tax
write-off.
V
V
B
V
They
changed
the
bags
because
we
had
a
thin
bag
law,
I'm,
not
saying
it
right
and
I'm
sorry,
but
they
upped
their
bag
game
and
they
bought
24
bags,
whereas
their
brother
sister,
cousin
entities
and
stores
had
the
four
Cent
bags
and
nobody
was
willing
to
take
that.
20
cent
hit
because
again
Valley
changed
to
what
Evanston
asked
before
I
got
here
so
advice
like:
oh,
they
could
sit
in
their
bags
somewhere
else.
The
other
stores
weren't
willing
to
make
that
20
cent
hit.
This
is
business.
B
At
this
time,
no
one
who's
asked
to
who's
known
who's.
Not
yet
spoken
is
asking
to
speak,
so
we'll
go
back
to
folks
for
a
second
crack,
beginning
with
council
member
Reed,
with
three
minutes
and
40
seconds
left.
Thank.
I
You
given
that
I'm,
not
maybe
I'm,
not
reading
the
room,
right
or
maybe
folks,
just
haven't
spoken
up
yet,
but
it
doesn't
seem
like
I
think
it
seems
as
though
a
number
of
us,
and
maybe
there's
lights,
that
are
going
to
come
on
now,
but
are
on
the
side
of
where
councilmember
Harris
is
that
we
made
a
law
there.
Were
you
know
a
few?
I
You
know
you
could
say
unintended
or
intended
consequences
that
happen
and
I
think
we
have
to
live
by
it.
Valley
was
willing
to
use
the
tax
write-off
system
to
donate
these
bags
to
a
good
cause,
and
you
know
I
wonder
if
d
d
with
just
a
few
months
Supply
can
do
the
same.
I
mean
we
we
give
these.
These
were
bags
that
folks
were
giving
away
anyhow
for
free
and
we're
not
charging
and
I'll
note
that
there
are
stores.
You
know
right
across
the
border.
I
In
my
ward,
there's
a
small,
independent
grocery
store,
it's
named
morelia's
in
the
48th
and
the
50th
ward
of
Chicago,
and
they
have
the
seven
Cent
Chicago
bag
tax
and
they
also
charge
a
10
cent
bag
tax
for
their
bags.
And
that's
or
not
back
tax,
but
back
fee.
That
is
for
the
store
and
so
I
encourage.
You
know,
while
our
ordinance,
you
know,
provides
five
cent
for
the
store
and
five
cent
for
the
city,
every
business
I
encourage
you
to
charge
more.
You
know
why
give
these
bags
away
for
free?
I
Why
not
make
that
a
part
of
the
you
know
want
to
collect
some
revenue
on
that
and
there
are
stores
that
are
doing
it.
This
is
a
small,
independent
store
minority,
owned
and
I.
Think
they're
doing
just
well,
and
so
I
would
encourage
other
folks
to
adopt
that
practice
as
well,
and
maybe
that
can
help
DND
cover
the
cost
of
the
bags
that
they
would
donate.
Thank
you.
H
I
talked
to
a
number
of
small
businesses
in
the
fourth
ward,
as
we
were
putting
together
this
bag
ordinance
and
the
small
businesses
I
spoke
with
made
it
fairly
clear
that
they
were
absolutely
comfortable
with
banning
plastic
bags
were
far
less
comfortable
with
the
bank
tax,
and
so,
with
that
feedback
in
mind,
you
know
we
kind
of
restructured
the
original
draft
and
Exempted
small
businesses
from
the
bag
tax,
but
did
not
lift
the
the
burden
of
the
plastic
bag
ban
from
those
businesses.
H
So
I'm
not
sure
if
I'm
contributing
anything
to
the
administrative
question
at
hand.
But
I
am
sympathetic
to
small
businesses
and
I
could
understand
why
a
small
business
would
buy
a
Year's
worth
of
plastic
bags
in
advance
because
they're
going
to
get
a
better
price
that
a
valley
or
Trader
Joe's
or
a
Dominic's.
You
know
it's
probably
goes
through
in
a
week
what
one
of
those
businesses
goes
through
in
in
six
months
or
a
year.
So
the
message
to
us
for
next
time
is:
let's
make
sure,
we're
thinking
about
every
single
possibility.
B
It's
just
there's
a
number
of
people
still
online
to
speak.
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
I
think
first
of
all,
I
want
to
express
appreciation
to
the
city
manager
for
bringing
in
this
two
Council.
As
you
indicator,
this
I
think
it's
very,
very
clear
he
didn't
have
to
given
the
authority
of
the
city
manager
has
to
make
administrative
decisions
like
this
one.
But
given
that
he
was
aware
there
are
people
on
council
with
very
strong
and
incompatible
feelings.
B
He
thought
it
was
just
the
right
thing
to
do
to
bring
it
forward
and
I'm
really
glad
of
that,
and
appreciative
of
that
kind
of
spirit
of
collaboration
that
we
have
in
light
of
that
I
do
the
one
thing
I
really
want
to
make
sure
that
comes
out
of
this
is
a
clear
position
from
a
majority,
and
so
I
hope
that
this
discussion
will
end
with
emotion
made.
That
is
clear
in
terms
of
the
direction
that
it
gives
the
city
manager
and
and
the
emotion
passes.
Obviously
that
doesn't
need
to
happen
yet.
B
There's
a
number
of
people
lining
up
to
speak,
but
I
do
hopefully
land
on
that
before
moving
on
from
this
agenda
item,
so
those
who
are
signed
up
they're
several
signed
up
to
speak
who've
already
spoken,
but
those
who
have
signed
up
to
speak
who
have
not
yet
spoken.
Our
council
members
suffered
and
followed
by
hirakaris.
W
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
before
I
start
I'd,
just
like
to
point
out
the
importance
of
what
councilmember
newsman
said,
especially
as
it
relates
to
the
tree
ordinance.
We
have
to
make
sure
we
think
that
all
the
way
through
before
we
enact
it,
so
we're
not
back
here
having
a
similar
discussion
so
Luke.
What
are
the
options
that
you
are
considering.
F
So
in
the
memo
I
put
for
two
options,
one
is
basically
allowing
a
grace
period
for
everybody
until
January
1st
or
just
continuing
with
enforcement.
The
ordinance
immediately,
okay
and.
W
I'm
going
to
assume
that
there
is
nobody
here
who
represents
the
business
that
we're
discussing
just
for
the
record.
Okay,
are
you
confident
that
this
inventory
of
bags
represents
the
largest
inventory?
There's
whatever
we
decide,
there
won't
be
another
business
that
will
come
forward
with
I.
F
I
have
not
heard
from
any
other
businesses
in
this
partic
particular
predicament.
He
has
about
12
to
13
000
worth
of
bags
left
and
thinks
that
he
can
expend
most
of
them
by
the
end
of
the
year.
Okay,.
W
One
of
the
things
that
we
hear
a
lot
is
that
we're
not
helpful
to
business.
This
is
an
opportunity
to
be
helpful
to
a
business.
The
bags
exist,
they're
ordered
they're
custom
printed.
W
F
X
Good
guy
members
of
the
city
council,
Ike
ogbo,
director,
Health
and
Human
Services
Department
in
regards
to
facilities
that
are
not
in
compliance.
There
are
quite
a
number
of
them.
I
can't
provide
the
exact
numbers
as
to
how
many
facilities
have
not
complied.
What
we've
done
so
far
is
conduct
inspections
and
a
number
of
these
facilities
to
achieve
compliance,
working
with
the
store
managers
and,
of
course,
enlightening
to
the
features
of
the
ordinance.
X
Some
of
them
did
State
their
concerns,
but
the
ones
in
which
we've
spoken
to
have
subsequently
complied
and,
as
I
stated,
I
can't
give
you
a
figure
of
those
who
have
not
complied
given
the
number
of
facilities
that
have
to
comply,
but
we
are
continuing
to
work
with
facility
managers
in
regards
to
achieving
compliance.
W
Okay,
thank
you
yeah.
Without
anybody
from
the
business
being
here,
I,
don't
know
if
the
donation
tax
write-off
makes
sense
for
them.
Obviously
they
made
a
business
decision
under
one
set
of
regulations
and
we
changed
the
game
on
them.
I,
don't
think
it's
in
the
city's
best
interest
to
do
harm
to
a
business
like
that
and
I'd
encourage
you
to
consider
allowing
them
to
go
through
their
stock
of
bags,
putting
a
firm
date
on
it.
That
applies
to
all
businesses,
giving
us
time
to
sharpen
our
enforcement
and
but
but
I
think.
W
If
the
decision
is
to
not
be
reasonable
about
this,
this
is
just
another
example
of
why
we
make
it
so
difficult
to
do
business
in
Evanston,
and
this
is
a
long-standing
business.
But
you
know
businesses
that
are
considering
multiple
locations,
the
possibility
of
going
to
another
Community
besides-
and
this
is
the
type
of
thing
they
look
at-
and
they
say
this
council
is
not
reasonable.
W
The
city's
not
reasonable,
they're
not
going
to
work
with
me,
I'm
going
to
choose
to
locate
elsewhere
and
still
have
access
to
Evanston
consumers
and
that's
the
other
problem
is
that
we.
W
Have
a
lot
of
businesses
along
the
borders
of
our
town,
because
people
want
access
to
evidence
and
consumers,
but
they
don't
want
to
deal
with
Evanston
regulations,
so
I
would
encourage
you
to
be
reasonable
and
give
them
till
the
end
of
the
year.
If
that's,
what
they
said
is
what
they
think
it'll
take
I
mean
you
know,
that's
my
understanding.
Okay,.
Y
F
B
At
this
time,
no
one
is
asking
to
speak
for
the
first
time,
so
we'll
move
on
to
those
seeking
to
speak
for
a
second
time,
council
member
Kelly,
with
two
minutes
and
50
seconds
left.
A
Thank
you
so,
yes
to
the
point
that
it
is
advertising
also
and
a
small
business
invests
that
kind
of
money
for
advertising.
It
means
something
different
to
say
just
give
them
away
and
I
just
want
to
say.
Also.
A
There
are
a
lot
of
other
businesses
that
are
out
of
compliance
I,
this
one
we're
naming
now
publicly
but
I'm
not
going
to
start
naming
names,
I've
heard
people
say:
oh
they're
still
giving
out
plast
bags,
I'm
not
going
to
name
those
businesses,
but
let's
relieve
the
stress
two
months
was
a
very,
very
unreasonable
turnaround
time
and
when
I
went
back
and
even
watched,
the
human
Source
I
just
didn't
see
where
someone
motioned
to
reduce
it
from
18
months
down
to
two
I
mean
there's
no
like:
let's
move
it
from
18
to
two
I,
just
I
I
think
there
was
some
oversight.
A
I,
don't
think
that
was
what
was
intended.
A
two-month
turnaround
to
make
such
a
drastic
policy
change
for
our
businesses,
so
yeah,
so
I
also
ask
that
we
all
move
to
direct
staff
to
extend
the
compliance
period.
Thank
you.
A
Oh
okay,
so
I'd
like
to
is.
P
A
Yes,
I'd
like
to
go
ahead
and
move,
then
that
we
extend
the
compliance
period
to
January
1st
and
also
just
that's
not
that
far
off
also,
but
it
will
relieve
stress
from
a
lot
of
our
particular
small
businesses,
but
I
also
want
to
add
even
our
larger
businesses,
even
the
one
that
was
mentioned,
also
support.
Extending
the
compliance
period.
Point.
I
Point
of
order
council,
member
Kelly,
if
you're
willing
to
make,
was
planning
on
making
an
emotion
if
you're
willing
to
amend
that
to
only
include
our
small
businesses
under
10
000
square
feet,
I
I,
don't
think,
there's
a
single
reason
why
Ross
dressed
for
less
or
a
Target
or
you
know
some
other
larger
business
could
not
comply
with
this
ordinance.
I
B
That
can't
shift
them.
Is
there
a
second
to
the
all
right,
so
councilmember
Kelly
moves
to
direct
staff
to
offer
a
grace
period
on
enforcement
of
the
bag
ordinance
until
the
end
of
the
calendar
year.
2023
council
member
win
seconds.
The
motion,
because
this
is
a
debatable
motion,
we'll
continue
with
those
who
signed
up
to
speak,
beginning
with
council
member
Burns.
Z
Y
Z
I
Tell
you
why
the
date
is
different
Cara.
You
can
also
respond,
but
the
original
date
was
2023.
We
could
begin
considering
this
and
it
took
quite
a
while
and
then,
when
the
ordinance
finally
came
around,
it
was
after
the
date
of
original
implementation,
and
so
it
was
just
adjusted
to
2024,
which
was
I
thought
too
far
out,
and
so
then
we
landed
on
August
is
that
is
that
some
whatever
so.
Z
AA
Good
evening,
Kara
Pratt
sustainability
and
resilience
manager
I
at
the
time
that
this
was
being
considered
back
in
May,
had
expressed
that
the
timeline
was
a
tight
timeline
upon
passage
of
the
ordinance
which,
to
my
knowledge,
was
unanimous
passage
of
the
ordinance.
All
staff
immediately
began
to
implement
the
recommendations
of
City
Council.
Z
So
your
opinion,
though,
is
that
this,
the
two
months
I
think
is
what
was
share,
is
a
was
tight.
You
would
consider
that
a
tight
turn
around
for
businesses.
Yes,
okay,
that's
helpful
and
that's
the
only
question
I
have
for
you
Karen.
Thank
you,
I
guess.
My
next
question
is
is
sort
of
the
director.
Well,
no,
it's
really
the
city
manager.
Z
Unless
we're
not
and
then
we
should
just
remove
the
hundred
dollar,
you
know
penalty
based
on
what
I
just
heard
from
Cara
I'm
comfortable,
supporting
this
not
for
12
to
13,
000
I,
don't
think
I
won't
even
go
there,
but
if,
if
we
don't
think
we
gave
folks
enough
time
for
the
beginning,
then
then
you
know
I'm
supportive
of
allowing
the
time
that
we
probably
should
have
allowed
from
the
beginning.
But
where
are
we
with
enforcement?
Why
are
we
not
enforcing
it
currently?
Do
we
plan
on
it
first
in
it
January
1?
Z
If
this
is
approved,
do
we
need
to
sure.
F
X
Go
speak
further,
so
it
is
a
matter
that
we've
started
enforcing
and
all
enforcement
element
has
been
to
educate
and
to
issue
what
we
call
a
notice
of
violations
with
a
particular
time
for
them
to
correct
the
violations.
So
that's
the
model
that
we
go
by
issue.
X
A
notice,
Enlighten
them
provide
education,
provide
resources
to
them,
then
give
them
a
time
to
correct
it,
and
as
long
as
they're
making
efforts
to
to
correct
it,
we
will
continue
to
work
with
the
facility
in
situations
where
all
the
attempts
and
any
efforts
that
we
have
applied
in
order
for
them
to
comply
with
the
ordinance
have
not
been
met.
Then
we
have
the
mechanisms
in
place
to
ticket
the
facility.
Z
Yeah
because
I'm
it
my
last
just
the
last
thing
I
have
to
say
is
you
know
the
if,
if
we
believe
truly
believe
these
bags
are
polluting
the
environment,
if
you
apply
that
to
something
else,
that's
a
lot
more
obvious,
like
somebody
dumping
oil
and
like
we
wouldn't
want
them
to
continue
to
do
something
that
we've
already
said
is
polluting
our
environment.
So
I
just
think
whenever
that
point
is
we
need
to.
If
we
really
believe
in
this,
we
need
to
get
serious,
make
a
deadline.
Z
I,
don't
think
the
the
dollar
amount
that
I
heard
is
is
is
was
setting
this
business
back
I
think
is
more
of
a
a
matter
of
principle
for
them
that
that
they
shouldn't
be
wasteful,
but
we
don't
want
them
to
waste
in
this
way
anymore,
but
I,
don't
think
the
dollar
amount
is
sending
them
back,
even
if
they
had
to
pay
the
hundred
dollars.
I
think
the
way
you
interpret
it
is
the
hundred
dollars
would
be
per
violation
per
day,
whether
it
be
per
day
or
how
are
you
interpreting
it
again?
X
Z
Okay,
so
that,
but
that's
it
I,
just
I-
want
to
make
sure
that
that
at
some
point
we
are
enforcing
this
similar
to
councilmember
Harris
I
people.
Business
owners
came
up
to
me
about
this:
hey.
Can
we
go
through
our
bags
and
I
did
not
advise
them
one
way
or
the
other
I
just
encouraged
them
to
to
try
to
you
know
replace
their
bags
with
with
paper
bags
as
quickly
as
they
can.
Z
AB
Yes,
I
I
support
this
motion.
What
we're
really
seeking
from
everyone
is
compliance
and
there
are
times
where,
whenever
we've
changed,
the
law
that
we
give
Grace
periods
I
think
we
didn't
give
enough
of
a
grace
period
on
this.
One
I
don't
want
to
harm
any
of
our
small
businesses.
They've
struggled
enough
over
the
last
few
years,
so
I
think
accepting
January
1st
2024
as
the
hard
deadline
and
making
sure
that
it
is
strictly
enforced,
gives
us
more
opportunity
to
educate.
So
we
get
compliance.
AB
B
Foreign
again,
we
go
to
those
who
are
asking
to
speak
for
a
second
time,
beginning
with
council
member
nusma,
who
has
three
minutes
and
40
seconds
left.
Thank.
H
You
Mr,
Mayor,
yeah
I,
think
I
would
be
reluctantly
supportive
of
extending
the
grace
period
for
small
businesses
only,
which
is
where
council
member
Reed
was
going.
H
The
the
large
businesses
go
through
the
bags,
presumably
quick
enough
that
they're
already
where
we
need
them
to
be
and
I
don't
want
to
allow
them
room
to
backslide
and
not
to
get
too
precious
with
the
with
the
concept.
But
if
we
could
limit
the
grace
period
to
allow
businesses
only
to
burn
off
the
inventory
of
bags,
they
already
have,
and
you
know,
prevent
them
from
purchasing
making
new
purchases
to
use
later
this
year.
H
I
would
be
in
favor
of
that
I'm,
not
sure
if
that's
realistically
feasible
from
an
enforcement
perspective,
but
it
does
occur
to
me
if
the
health
department
does
have.
It
appears
to
have
some
enforcement
flexibility
and
as
long
as
the
business
is
attempting
to
correct
I,
think
was
Mr
hogba's
language.
The
the
problem
then
you're
willing
to
work
with
them
and
won't
oppose
a
fine,
so
I
wonder
if
we
even
need
to
weigh
in
if
we
just
give
you
the
direction
to
exercise
the
flexibility
that
you
already
have.
B
Continuing
with
people
on
their
second
crack
council
member
Harris
with
two
minutes,
45
left
thank.
V
You
so
I'm
just
again
going
to
struggle
with
this
I,
don't
believe
it's
unreasonable.
We
set
expectations.
I
understand
that
it
was
a
tight
turn
around
the
law
that
we
created
is
the
law
that
we
created,
and
we
do
learn
and
we've
talked
about
that,
and
that
is
a
standing
point
in
which
I
will
always
stand.
Is
that
we
have
to
make
good
good
decisions
in
the
beginning,
but
we
also
I
I'm
going
to
struggle
telling
a
business
to
not
follow
what
we've
told
them
to
do.
V
I'm
going
to
struggle
with
that,
and
especially
when
one
of
my
businesses
donated
24,
000
worth
of
product
reluctantly
and
I
get
it.
We
consider
them
a
big
business,
but
they
went
out
of
their
way.
I
talked
to
Legal
I
talked
to
our
sustainability
and
I'm,
never
going
to
direct
somebody
to
break
the
law
or
to
go
against
what
we've
said
so
I'm
going
to
well
I'm
going
to
vote
now,
but
I
understand
I
empathize
with
our
small
businesses.
I
completely
do
but
I'm
voting
now.
B
W
You,
sir,
so
if
we're
going
to
have
a
threshold,
I've
heard
a
square
footage
threshold
ever
you
know
the
term
small
business
use
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
clear
definition
and
I.
Don't
know
that
anybody
in
this
room
right
now
is
the
person
to
do
that.
I
mean
we
should
talk
to
economic
loan
or
care
or
you
feel
I
mean
I
I.
W
Don't
this
is
a
business
regulation
thing
now,
and
so
maybe
we
need
to
have
an
understanding
of
which
businesses
were
affecting
I
mean
we
can't
do
it
a
specific
legislation
for
one
business.
So
if
we're
going
to
use
a
definition
like
small
business
or
we
have
to
have
it
clearly
defined,
because
we've
already
made
a
mistake,
let's
not
compound
it
with
another,
so
I
I,
don't
know
if
Paul
zamazak
is
here
or
if
there's
somebody
or
Luke.
B
W
A
So
we
did
have
I
mean
regarding
the
tax,
the
ten
thousand
square,
ten
thousand
square
feet,
or
less
or
more
that
was
sort
of
the
defining
line.
Most
cities
gave
a
year
for
large
businesses
of
ten
thousand
square
feet
or
more
in
a
year
and
a
half
for
small,
so
six
months
seems
I
mean
I.
I
also
want
to
obviously
I
want
this
to
pass.
A
So
I
want
to
get
a
feel
for
where
everybody
stands
on
this,
but
you
know
I
was
hoping
just
if
six
months
still
seems
like
a
very
short
time
for
even
large
businesses.
So
it
seemed
to
me
reasonable
to.
W
AC
AC
AC
Okay,
I
I
guess
I
do
want
to
say.
I
would
be
sympathetic
to
an
amendment
to
focus
our
leniency
policy
on
small
businesses
defined
as
10
000
square
feet
and
smaller.
B
B
So
we
go
to
third
cracks,
beginning
with
council
member
Reed
with
a
minute
50
left.
Thank.
I
You
I
would
like
to
make
a
substitute
motion
to
have
the
exemption
B4
or
the
deprioritization
of
enforcement
B
for
businesses
that
are
10
000
square
feet
or
less,
as
already
defined
in
our
ordinance
seconded
by
sorry.
Council.
B
Number
read
moves
to
substitute
the
initial
motion
with
a
proposal
to
delay
enforcement
until
2024
for
businesses
with
10
000
or
fewer
square
feet.
Council
member
Revell
seconds.
B
This
motion,
as
I
understand
it
is
also
debatable.
Is
that
right?
Yes,
so
while
the
discussion
continues,
councilmember
Reed,
can
you
put
this
in
writing
for
the
council
I
initially
relaxed
the
writing
requirement
thinking
we
would
be
doing
one
simple
thing
and
now
we're
doing
multiple,
complicated
things
so
I'm
already
kicking
myself
for
my
my
leniency,
the
lesson
being
never
go
on
vacation.
B
Do
you
mind
putting
that
in
writing?
While
the
discussion
continues,
council.
I
Member,
yes,
but
if
I
can
very
quickly
say
that
yeah
continue,
please,
yes,
you
know,
I
I,
think
this
makes
sense
for
our
small
businesses.
I
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
folks,
while
we
are
providing
this
runway
for
the
bag,
ban,
I
think
folks
still
need
to
enforce
the
tax
and
be
charging
the
tax,
especially
if
they're
continuing
to
give
out
plastic
bags.
I
I
think
we
need
to
be
collecting
the
revenue
to
deal
with
that
burden,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
clear
in
the
enforcement.
H
I'm
not
even
sure
where
we
were
when
I
put
my
light
on,
but
I
will
support
the
substitute
motion
and
if
the
movers
would
entertain
a
friendly
request
to
further
limit
that
laxity
to
those
businesses
who
are
only
burning
off
current
inventory.
I
would
support
that.
How
do
you
fix
it.
A
A
I
think
it's
really
important,
but
I
certainly
like
to
have
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
smoke
out
who's
still
using
them
and
who's,
not
I've
heard
from
a
lot
that
a
lot
of
businesses
still
are,
let's
just
relieve
that
stress,
especially
for
our
small
businesses
that
are
feeling
the
sweet
squeeze
more
than
the
large
businesses
so
rather
than
council
member
news,
my
would
I,
don't
think
that
would
be
a
good
direction
to
go
to
try
to
find
out
who
still
has
inventory.
B
Councilor
Harris
calls
the
question
we
are
now
like
at
the
really
the
epicenter
of
my
procedural
incompetence.
I
believe
this
is
emotion
that
requires
a
second
and
then
is
not
debatable.
It
requires
a
vote
as
well.
Is
that
correct,
okay,
council
member
Harris
moves
the
question?
We
will
stand
it
well.
Is
there
a
second
for
that
motion
council
member
win
seconds?
B
The
motion
will
the
clerk
please
take
the
role
on
the
motion
to
call
the
question
and
the
question
to
be
clear
is
being
called
on
the
substitute
motion
that
was
offered
by
council
member
Reed,
which
I
will
not
allow
a
vote
on
that
until
I
get
it
in
writing,
but
we
can
have
a
vote
on
calling
the
question.
Z
Y
B
B
So
we're
about
to
receive
the
motion
in
writing.
What
I
think
it
will
say
is
that
the
enforcement
of
the
tax
for
businesses
with
10,
000
or
fewer
square
feet
will
be
delayed
until
January
of
2024
and
for
me
personally,
substitute
motions
are
confusing,
so
I'll
walk
people
through
how
I
believe
this
this
goes.
If
you
all
vote
Yes,
then
it's
passed.
So
we're
done.
If
you
all
vote,
no,
the
substitution
fails
and
then
the
vote
reverts
to
council
member
Kelly's
underlying
motion.
B
H
Point
of
order-
yes,
you
said
the
motion
you
expected
would
was
related
to
the
enforcement
of
the
tax
on
small
businesses.
My
understanding.
H
I
E
I
I
B
All
right,
so
this
is
so
what
council
member
Reid
has
put
in
writing
this
I'm
glad
we
did.
This
is
both.
What
we're
about
to
receive
I
believe
is
both
the
ten
thousand
square
foot
limitations.
So
if
you're
over
10
000
square
feet,
enforcement
continues,
as
well
as
the
the
new
Smith
doctrine
of
the
the
grace
period
only
covers
existing
supplies.
H
H
B
So
I'm
sending
the
updated
version
now,
which
will
say
updated
version
on
top
of
it
and
I'll
just
read
it
out
loud
for
the
benefit
of
auditory
Learners,
as
well
as
the
public.
The
health
and
human
services
department
May
delay
enforcement
of
the
ban
on
plastic
bags
until
January,
21st
2024
or
until
existing
supplies
have
been
exhausted.
B
Whichever
comes
first
for
businesses
under
10
000
square
feet,
so
that
is
the
substitute
motion
and
that's
the
question
that's
been
called,
and
so
now
I
would
like
the
clerk
to
take
the
role
where
again,
if
five
or
more
people
vote
Yes,
this
is
the
this.
Is
it
and
we're
done?
Let
me
move
on
to
the
consent
agenda.
If,
if
it
fails
to
pass,
then
we
revert
to
a
discussion
and
potential
vote
on
council
member
Cali's
previous
motion
with
a
clear.
Please
take
the
role.
Y
B
C
B
Voting
in
favor
and
one
voting
against
the
notion
carries
and
the
city
manager
and
Health
and
Human
Services
director
have
been
dually
directed.
Thank
you
all
for
the
discussion.
B
First
of
all,
I've
been
told
that
item
a26
did
not
make
it
out
of
committee
at
all
and
so
will
not
appear
on
the
consent
agenda
or
be
eligible
for
discussion.
This
evening,
additionally,
I've
been
asked
to
remove
items
a
22,
24
and
25
for
consideration
for
introduction
and
action
and
to
occur
tonight.
B
W
Sure
I
appreciate
it
item.
AE
A2
item
a12
item
a18
item
a20.
W
AD
I
B
AD
B
With
eight
voting
in
favor
and
non-voting
against,
the
motion
carries
in
the
consent
agenda,
with
the
large
number
of
exemptions
previously
read
is
passed.
This
brings
us
now
to
item
a
two.
B
C
B
Thank
you
for
that
with
seven
voting
in
favor,
one
abstention
and
none
in
opposition
the
motion
carries
and
the
credit
card
activity
is
approved.
This
brings
us
to
item
a12
and
we'll
move
right
on.
I
May
12
approval
of
a
purchase
of
one
Vermeer
SC
382,
stump
grinder,
with
with
trailer
one
Premier
BC
1500
chipper,
two
2024
Ford
F-550,
regular
cabs
and
one
2024
Ford
f-750,
regular
cab
for
the
forestry
division
of
the
Public
Works
agency.
Second,.
B
W
U
U
W
U
City
property
is
my
understanding
of
what
they
do.
I
can't
really
speak
for
them,
but
yeah
great.
Y
B
With
seven
voting
in
favor
and
none
voting
against
the
motion
carries
and
the
purchases
are
approved,
this
brings
us,
oh
with
the
councilman
Reed,
should
be
recorded.
Voting
yes
with
eight
voting
in
favor,
and
none
voting
against
the
motion
carries.
This
brings
us
to
item
a18.
Councilman
Reed
is
not
in
the
room,
but
someone
else
care
to
make
a
motion
relative
to
item
a18.
H
B
Council
member
newsman
moves
approval
of
change
order
and
question
and
I
think
council
member
win
seconds
council
member
suffered
him.
W
Yeah
I
guess
Shane
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
or
Lara
do
you
anticipate
further
change.
Orders
I
know
that's
kind
of
how
change
orders
work
but
based
on
what's
going
on
with
this
project,
do
you
see
further
difficulties?
Do
you
think
this
is
just
stutter
step
or
do
you
think
there'll
be
more
there.
AF
Thank
you,
council
member
suffered
him.
My
name
is
Laura
Biggs
I'm,
the
city
engineer,
so
I
do
have
concerns
about
delays
that
are
being
caused
by
the
lack
of
availability
and
electrical
equipment.
It's
actually
affecting
a
number
of
our
projects
and
was
a
big
part
of
this
Challenge
and
today
we're
trying
to
work
with
ComEd
to
make
sure
that
they
can
provide
the
Transformer
that's
needed
on
the
back
end
to
re-energize
the
building,
but
they
are
also
struggling
with
being
able
to
get
electrical
equipment.
So
the
single
biggest
risk
right
now
is
electrical.
W
AF
AE
B
Eight
voting
in
favor
and
none
voting
against
the
motion
carries
and
the
change
order
is
approved.
This
brings
us
to
item
a
20.
I.
I
Will
move
resolution
47
R23
approving
its
extended
hours
of
liquor,
service
on
September
23rd
2023
September,
30th,
2023,
October,
28
2023
and
November
18
2023
for
Levy
premium
Food
Services
one
day
class
Z2
liquor
licenses.
H
W
Yeah,
so
my
understanding
and
Luke,
please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
is
that
the
value
to
the
city
of
licenses
is
twenty
six
hundred
dollars
total.
Is
that
correct?
That's
my
understanding.
Yes,
do
you
have
a
sense
of
what
the
liquor
tax
revenue
that's
generated
for
the
city
from
these
events
is?
Is.
F
W
W
Everyone
to
bear
that
in
mind
that
we
charge
Northwestern
a
total
of
twenty
six
hundred
dollars
for
this
privilege
and
an
unknown
amount
of
liquor.
Tax
collection.
B
If
I
voting
in
favor
one
voting
against
and
one
abstention,
the
motion
carries
in
resolution.
47-R-23
is
passed.
This
brings
us
to
item
item.
B
That
was
removed
from
the
consent
agenda
for
consideration
of
the
suspension
of
the
rules
to.
J
B
I
B
Okay,
council
member
Reed
moves
suspension
of
the
rules
so
that
items
a22,
a23,
a24
and
a25
may
all
be
passed
tonight,
in
other
words,
that
we
can
in
a
single
vote
effectually.
Both
introduction
and
action
this
evening
on
those
four
items,
I
believe
council
member
Harris
seconded-
is
that
right.
B
Is
there
any
discussion
on
the
motion
to
suspend
the
rules
seeing
none
with
the
clerk?
Please
take
the
role
on
the
motion
to
suspend
the
rules.
Y
B
With
eight
voting
in
favor
and
non-voting
against,
the
motion
carries
and
the
rules
are
suspended.
Now,
if
y'all
would
like,
you
could
move
all
four
items
in
one
motion,
this.
B
I
B
B
Councilmember
Reed
moves
final
passage
of
ordinance,
72-0-23
council
member
new
Smith
seconds
I
just
want
to
clarify
this
is
allowable
and
and
proper,
but
I
do
want
to
name
that
there
is
in
contravention
of
our
custom.
The
agenda
does
not
indicate
the
introduction
and
action
here
so
just
in
case
you're,
following
along
this
one
looks
different
for
from
22,
24
and
25,
but
will
be
handled
in
the
same
manner.
Is
there
any
discussion
seeing
none
of
the
clerk?
Please
take
the
role.
B
I
I
move
ordinance,
a24,
ordinance,
76,
so
23
amending
the
city
code,
section
10,
11,
5D
four-way
stops
four-way
I,
guess
adding
a
four-way
stop
at
McDaniel
Avenue
and
Harrison
Street.
H
B
B
B
I
B
P
B
Q
AC
Well,
I
do
support
this
ordinance,
but
I
did
have
one
very
minor
amendment
to
propose.
I
mentioned
it
briefly
at
planning
and
development
and
I
did
send
a
aversion
to
the
mayor.
If
I
can
find
it
dear
help,
I've
lost
it.
Yes,.
AC
The
entire
Council
okay
IT
addresses
the
section
about
pruning
and
because
right
now,
the
the
way
it
was
drafted
it
requires
any
pruning
to
be
completed
by
industry,
recognized
a
certified
and
qualified
professional
and
I
felt
that
was
pretty
stringent
and
you
know
there
might
be
a
homeowner
who
himself
or
herself
is
able
to
do
some
serious
pruning
so
anyway.
So
the
amendment
would
allow
say
basically
that
the
pruning
had
to
be
done
in
compliance
with
industry,
recognized
pruning
standards
or,
if
compiled
by
a
certified
and
qualified
professional.
B
Council
member
Revel
moves
to
amend
the
tree
preservation
ordinance
to
slightly
modify
the
pruning
requirements,
as
previously
mentioned
council
member
Reed
seconds.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
the
amendment?
I
have
people
in
line
to
speak,
but
I'm
guessing
they
probably
weren't
lining
up
to
speak
to
the
amendment.
Does
anyone
want
to
speak
the
amendment
council,
member
Reed.
I
Yes,
Emily.
Thank
you.
I
I
am
not
a
tree
expert,
but
as
a
council
member
I
found
myself
thick
in
bees
and
trees
and
all
kinds
of
stuff
that
and
so
I'm
curious,
I
I
think
I
have
learned
that
if
you
know
I
as
a
homeowner
who
had
a
tree
in
my
backyard
at
certain
kinds
of
trees
were
to
prune
it
incorrectly
that
that
could
potentially
kill
the
tree.
Is
that
correct.
AG
Yes,
that's
correct.
Thank
you
good
evening.
Honorable
mayor
members
of
city
council,
Emily
ocalao
public
services
coordinator
and
for
the
purposes
of
tonight,
I
am
a
certified
Arborist.
Thank
you,
councilmember
Reed.
It
is
correct
that
if
you
prune
a
tree
incorrectly
and
sufficiently
impact
that
tree,
you
could
damage
it
to
an
extent
that
that
tree
that
could
lead
to
the
complete
decline
of
that
tree.
It
might
take
a
while
it
might
take
a
number
of
years,
but
that
could
contribute
to
the
complete
decline
of
that
tree.
I
And
while
I
appreciate
councilmember,
ravel's
Amendment
here
I
mean
I,
do
think
we
want
to
you,
know
I
again,
I,
don't
know
what
kind
of
pruning
a
homeowner
might
do.
Maybe
if
it's
a
very
small
tree
or
if
it's
one
of
those
you
know
I,
think
they're
Kentucky
something
trees
that
are
not
very
beautiful,
trees,
it's
by
some
people's
standards.
I
Yes,
I've
heard
that
I,
don't
think
it's
my
truth
necessarily,
but
so
I
could
get
maybe
pruning
something
like
that.
But
I
guess
this
would
only
apply
to
the
trees
that
are
above
the
that
are
captured
by
the
ordinance.
Is
that
correct
above
the.
AG
AG
AG
You
know,
without
some
type
of
professional
equipment
I
mean
you
would
really
have
to
remove
very
large
branches
and
a
number
of
very
large
branches
to
permanently
you
know
cause
the
decline
of
the
tree.
I
will
also
add
that
the
amendment
includes
that
pruning
must
be
done
according
to
Industry
standards,
and
so,
according
to
Industry
standards,
a
property
owner,
even
the
property
owner,
would
be
violating
that
portion
of
the
ordinance.
AG
I
AG
The
amendment
provides
opportunity
for
a
property
owner
to
prune
their
own
trees.
It
seems
quite
unlikely
that
a
property
owner
would
physically
be
able
to
sufficiently
damage
a
tree
during
the
pruning
process.
These
branches
are
very
big,
they're,
very
heavy.
It
would
be
extremely
unsafe
for
a
property
owner
to
remove
a
sufficiently
large
branch
in
order
to
cause
the
decline
of
the
tree,
so
the
property
owner
would
have
to
remove
really
really
big
branches,
and
they
would
be
really
really
heavy,
and
it
would
be
a
really
unsafe
thing
to
do.
AG
They're
also
very
tall
they're,
very
high
up
in
the
tree,
these
branches,
and
so
most
Property
Owners
would
not
have
equipment.
That's
tall
enough
like
they
would
not
be
able
to
stand
on
a
ladder
that
most
Property
Owners
would
own
to
be
able
to
do
this
and
then
even
like
the
activity
of
sawing
through
the
branch,
most
Property
Owners
would
not
have
sufficiently
powerful
saws
to
be
able
to
do
that
and
to
be
able
to
do
it
safely.
I
believe
most
Property
Owners
would
most
likely
abandon
that
process.
AG
I
I
appreciate
that
dude.
Do
you
think
that
the
this
provides
more
or
less
Clarity?
The
amendment
I
fear
that
you
know
I
I
get
the
the
purpose
of
it,
but
then
you
know
hearing
what
you're
saying
I
guess:
I
wouldn't
necessarily
want
to
encourage,
through
our
the
writing
of
the
ordinance,
a
homeowner
to
even
think
that
they
should
get
up
there
and
do
it
themselves.
AG
I,
don't
believe
that
it
changes
from
the
status
quo.
So,
currently,
property
owners
have
the
opportunity.
You
know
to
do
this.
Currently,
they
you
know
they're
able
to
prune
their
trees
if
they
would
want
to.
Hopefully,
most
Property
Owners
recognize
that
these
are
unsafe
activities
and
would
ask
a
professional
to
do
so.
I
It
is
I
guess
my
time
is
drawing
to
an
end,
so
I'll
close
here,
while
I
I
I
support
the
is
the
the
intention
of
of
the
amendment
I
I
do
think,
given
the
size
of
the
trees
that
we're
talking
about
that,
it
should
just
be
clear
in
the
ordinance
that
we
only
want
professionals
dealing
with
this,
both
for
the
safety
of
the
homeowner
and
for
the
safety
of
potential
neighbors
and
other
property
that
could
be
around
and
obviously
the
whole
ordinance
is
about
trees.
I
AH
H
Big
old
limb
40
feet
in
the
air
I'm
not
going
up
on
the
ladder
to
do
that.
Thank
you,
but
I
believe
the
turn
I'm
not
a
tree
guy
you're,
a
certified
Arborist
but
I
believe
the
the
term
is
sucker
for.
H
Y
B
B
With
Aid
voting
in
favor
and
non-voting
against
the
motion
carries
an
ordinance
15-0-23
is
adopted.
Continuing
is
amended
geez.
Thank
you
really,
sorry
about
that
guys.
That
was
the
opposite
of
the
correct
word.
Ordinance
15-0-23
is
amended
and
now
continuing
with
the
discussion
council
member
suffered
and
followed
by
Harris,
okay.
W
Sure
I
have
a
couple
different
questions
and
I
I
have
concerns
that
aren't
going
to
be
delayed
because
they
relate
to
the
encross
or
nonprofit
property
rights,
but
Can
staff
I
mean.
Is
it
possible
to
reach
out
to
like
the
major
tree
removal
companies
and
just
see
how
many
trees
we're
talking
about
or
how?
Many
times
this
has
happened
in
Evanston
I'm,
trying
to
understand
the
scope
of
the
purported
problem
that
we're
trying
to
solve.
AG
Reached
out
to
tree
care
companies,
there
are
a
number
of
tree
care
companies.
It
would
be
at
this
point,
you
know,
and
we
believe
it
would
be
impossible
to
be
able
to
identify
all
the
tree
care
companies
that.
W
W
W
Oh,
no,
that's
not
yeah.
AG
So
the
the
tree
preservation
review
process
will
have
a
cost
of
75
and
so
projects
that
are
projects
that
do
have
trees
that
will
need
to
proceed
with
tree
preservation
review.
There
will
be
an
increased
cost
of
75
dollars
and
then,
as
far
as
time,
there
is
a
potential
that
time
that
you
know
that
it
could
increase
the
time.
But
if
the
tree
preservation
review
happens
at
the
same
time
as
other
types
of
building
permit
review
processes,
Liz
I
apologize
if
I
butchered
the
the
language
it
may
not
increase
the
these.
AG
These
reviews
might
happen
at
the
same
time.
So
if
there
is
a
zoning
analysis,
then
the
tree
preservation
review
might
happen
at
the
same
time
as
that
zoning
analysis,
and
so
it's
not
a
given
that
it
will
increase
the
time.
I
believe
that
the
language
is
the
way
the
language
was
written,
it
may
increase
it
by
a
factor
of
a
couple
days.
AG
I
believe
that
tree
preservation,
ordinance
calls
for
14
days
and
building
permit
review
occurs
in
10
business
days,
so
those
two
things
are
almost
identical
and
they
would
most
often
occur
concurrently.
There
may
be
additional
delays
if
there
is
if
three
preservation
review
brings
up
some
sort
of
change.
That
needs
to
happen,
and
then
these
permits
would
have
to
go
through
the
entire
process.
Again,
then
that
would
you
know
if
there
are
changes,
then
it
would
increase
that
time
again.
Okay,.
W
And
then
taking
the
lessons
from
the
bag
ban,
is
there
anything
in
here
that
would
allow
for
people
who
have
projects
already
planned
that
may
violate
a
new
ordinance
to
go
forward
with
their
projects?
Liz?
Are
you
aware
of
any
permanent
applications
that
might
run
afile
of
the
new
ordinance
that
are
fine
right
now,.
AI
So,
as
proposed,
we
are
looking
at
a
delayed,
effective
date
of
this
ordinance
to
be
able
to
integrate
all
of
the
changes
that
Emily
mentioned
into
the
permitting
software.
So
right
now
there
isn't
like
a
grace
period
once
that
effective
date
goes
into
effect.
We're
looking
at
June
1st
for
the
effective
date,
and
our
plan
would
be
to
do
Outreach
and
education
updating
all
of
our
brochures
online
ahead
of
that
effective
date
to
be
able
to.
Let
folks
know
in
advance
that
this
is
something
that
is
newly
required.
AI
Is
the
potential
so
if
that
is
something
that
you
would
like
to
recommend,
an
amendment
on
staff
could
definitely
look
into
you
know
looking
at
a
time
frame
by
which
existing
applications
in
the
queue
would
be
Exempted.
Typically,
when
new
regulations
are
put
into
effect
as
long
as
there's
an
application
filed
with
the
Department,
we
quickly,
don't
retroactively,
apply
new
regulations
that
have
been
passed
in
the
time
frame
as
they're
being
reviewed.
So
that
would
be
my
expectation
of
how
this
would
be
administered.
W
V
I'm
just
worried
about
us,
as
council
members
suffered
and
said
encroaching
on
private
property.
We
hear
all
the
time
we're
too
involved
and
now
we're
encroaching
on
private
property,
so
that
is
of
concern.
I've
been
emailed
called
and
I
worry
about.
V
B
Can
I
just
Miss
ruggie
wanna
just
solicit
your
input
on
this,
just
because
councilmember
Harris
used
very
specific
terminology.
B
AJ
Thank
you.
May
our
best
members
of
city
council,
Alex,
ruggie
interim
Corporation,
Council,
mayor
biss,
the
city
can
make
regulations
that
impact
private
property
as
we've
done
many
times,
but
we
have
to
have
a
reason
behind
it.
So
there
has
to
be
a
legitimate
reason
why
the
restrictions
are
being
proposed.
I
think
the
ordinance
spells
out
those
reasons
in
the
city
as
well,
within
its
governmental
right
to
to
pass
this
ordinance.
B
H
You
Mr
Mayor
I,
want
to
address
council
member
sufferin's
concern
about
the
permit
cost.
75
dollars
is
fairly
low,
especially
compared
with
the
cost
of
removing
a
tree
of
this
size.
I
want
to
make
it
clear
that
everybody
that
the
ordinance
applies
only
to
trees
with
a
diet,
trunk
diameter
larger
than
six
inches.
So
that's
this
mouse
pad
is
I
think
about
its
seven
inch
diameter.
H
So
it's
that
size
of
a
tree
we're
talking
about
it's,
not
something
that
if
you're
going
to
remove
as
a
homeowner
you're,
probably
going
to
do
yourself
you're
going
to
hire
somebody
to
do
it,
it's
going
to
cost
hundreds
of
dollars,
if
not
into
the
four
digits
and
75
dollar
permit
fee
is
it
can
easily
be
absorbed
there.
I
do
think
so.
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
that
point
also,
the
ordinance
is
very
closely
drafted
on
on
the
Wilmette
ordinance.
H
So
we
do
have
ample
precedent
that
this
kind
of
Ordinance
Works
in
our
region
in
our
neighborhood,
so
looking
forward
to
passing
this
thanks.
B
Thank
you
now
continuing
on
second
cracks:
council
member
Reed
with
two
minutes
and
20
seconds
left.
I
Yes,
while
I'm
comfortable
voting
to
move
this
forward
now,
I
do
to
have
some
concerns
about
and
and
not
major
concerns,
I
think
they
can
be
answered.
I'm
curious,
whether
this
is
intermediate
scrutiny,
because
it's
we're
dealing
with
private
property
or
you
know,
step
lower,
and
you
know
what
the
implications
are
there
and
just
understanding
what
our
legitimate
reason
is,
which
I,
which
I
think
there
is
one-
and
you
know
with
that
in
mind:
I
I.
Suppose
there
is
going.
I
You
know
that
the
ordinance
contains
that
information,
but
I
will
just
Echo
some
other
colleagues
have
the
same
concern
that
we
in
many
circumstances
regulate
private
property
in
a
manner,
particularly
when
the
Affairs
of
the
private
property
enter
act
with
the
community
at
large,
and
certainly
our
tree
network
play
certainly
falls
into
that
realm.
So
I
think
this
is
an
appropriate
step.
B
C
Y
C
Aye
council
member
suffered
in
no
councilmember
Ravel
council
member
Reed,
all
right
council
member
aye.
B
Get
yourself
a
mayor
who
can
read
his
own
handwriting
with
seven
voting
in
favor
and
one
voting
against
ordinance
15-0-23,
as
amended
passes
for
introduction
and
we'll
be
back
on
our
agenda
in
two
weeks
for
action.
I
W
Yes,
I
have
the
same
concern
with
David
DiCarlo
brought
up
I,
actually
Paul.
If
you
could
come
up
here
and
we
could
talk
a
little
bit,
this
came
up
in
2019
as
well.
I
I
am
baffled
why
we
spent
public
money
for
somebody
who
comes
and
lobbies
us
on
behalf
of
Northwestern
with
that
said,
Paul.
You
believe
this
is
a
wise
investment.
If
you
could
explain
your
rationale
for
believing
that
this
is
a
wise
investment
sure.
S
Good
evening
Mr
Mayor
city
clerk,
Mendoza
members
of
the
city
council,
Paul
zamazak
economic
development
manager,
so
the
kind
of
the
short
version
of
the
story
is
the
convention
and
visitors.
Bureau,
the
Chicago
North
Shore
convention
and
visitors.
Bureau
is
the
organization
that
is
recognized
by
the
state
of
Illinois
to.
S
Kind
of
and
I'm
going
to
butcher
the
the
the
exact
language
that
goes
behind
kind
of
the
empowering
of
convention
visitors
bureau,
but
they're
responsible
for
representing
the
community
and
the
hospitality
industry
in
the
community
by
promoting
events
seeking
out
events
and
other
seeking
out
groups
that
would
attend
events
in
Evanston
or
groups
that
are
seeking
locations
to
do.
Events,
they'll,
go
and
and
Pitch
our
talent
to
them,
and
that
brings
the
larger
groups
to
Evanston
to
stay
at
hotels
to
shop
and
eat
Etc.
So.
W
S
Connection
that
girl
would
not
have
fair
question
I'm
I'm
not
prepared
to
answer
that
tonight,
but
that
Gina
might
be
able
to
talk.
Miss
Speckman
I
could
probably
prepared
a
report
on
that.
S
Are
some
right
so
I
mean
the
the
question?
Was
what
value
do
I
think
they
bring
I?
Think
they
bring
that
right?
They
they
publish
in
Publications
they
they
do.
The
latest
social
media
now
do
I
have
data
to
share
with
you
tonight.
This
is
something
we
talked
about
in
committee.
S
Are
there
better
ways
that
we
can
gather?
Data
gather
clicks
to
really
understand
what
impact
that
their
advertising
has,
but
my
task
down
it
is:
when
I
asked
the
hotels,
is
it
a
valuable
service
for
the
for
the
community
and
for
them?
The
answer
is
yes,
I'm
going
to
anticipate
a
a
response
that
you
might
say
which
is
well,
then
the
hotels
could
pay
for
it
right
and
I.
Think
there
is.
There
is
kind
of
a
role
for
the
hotels
is.
W
AK
Council
members,
how
it
works,
we
have
11
member
communities
and
in
order
for
any
business
to
be
a
member
of
the
bureau
and
they
pay
their
own
dues.
So
hotels
also
pay
us
dues.
A
municipality
has
to
be
a
member
of
the
bureau
in
order
for
any
business
in
a
municipality
to
be
part
of
the
bureau.
So
we
do
get
private
funding
from
the
businesses
also.
AK
They're
now
just
a
member
there's
not
a
preferred
partnership
anymore.
That
was
inherited
when
the
bureau
started
in
1997
as
the
Evanston
convention
and
visitors
bureau,
they
called
Northwestern
a
preferred
partner
and
they
worked
with
them
and
we
kind
of
inherited
that
when
we
became
the
North
Shore
CVV,
but
we
just
have
basically
members
so
they're,
just
a
member
of
ours.
Okay,.
AK
But
actions
can
be
members
if
they
bring
a
certain
amount
of
people
to
an
area.
For
example,
we
work
with
Ravinia,
even
though
it's
in
Highland
Park.
So
if
it's
a
destination
driver
we
do
have,
they
are
allowed
to
be
members.
Okay,.
W
Well,
I
mean
I've
expressed
this
I
expressed
it
in
2019
and
I
understand
that
part
of
your
job
is
filling
hotels
and
events
at
Northwestern
in
your
opinion,
will
help
fill
hotels,
but
I
think
it
is
entirely
inappropriate
for
you
to
Lobby
us
on
behalf
of
Northwestern
when
we're
paying
you
and
I
know
it's
hotel
tax
money,
but
it's
money
that
we
could
use
for
other
purposes.
W
If,
if
we
wanted
to
so
I
want
to
say
that
publicly
right
now,
I
think
it
is
entirely
inappropriate
for
the
North
Shore
Convention
of
Business
Bureau
to
be
advocating
for
Northwestern
to
Mr
Carlos
point
I
think
he's
gone
against
the
interests
of
many
residents.
Alderman
revell's
constituents
I
think
that
it
would
be
a
wise
idea
for
you
to
choose
not
to
participate
in
that
discussion
in.
AK
W
AK
AK
I
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
council
member
suffered
in
this
line
of
questioning,
not
not
just
because
of
the
Northwestern
angle,
but
this
is
something
I
too
have
also
had
concerns
about
our
spending
here.
I
I
think
you
made
your
money's
worth
with
the
Wilmette
comments
last
time,
but
I
will
say
that
I
do
think
that
the
lack
of
data
collection
here
is
concerning
and
it's
something
I've
been
asking
for
since
I've
been
on
Council.
I
You
know
I.
Think
in
Economic,
Development
committees
shared
that
you
know
the
leads
that
you
all
generate
are
passed
on
to
the
hotels
and
then
it's
kind
of
in
a
black
box.
Then
you
don't
know
if
your
lead
actually
generated
something
or
not,
because
it's
turned
and
if
I'm
incorrect
on
that.
AK
We
so
we,
the
whole
purpose
of
a
bureau,
is
to
work
in
addition
to
the
work
that
a
sales
staff
in
a
hotel
does
so
we
go
out
to
trade,
shows
we
go
to
about
40
trade
shows
throughout
the
country
to
bring
leads
to
Evanston
that
wouldn't
have
considered
it
for
their
meeting
or
event.
So
it's
incremental
business
for
the
hotels.
The
hotels
know
that
there's
36
convention
bureaus
in
the
state
of
Illinois
and
pretty
much
every
hotel
has
Bureau
representation.
So
they
really
count
on
that
and
expect
it.
AK
You
know
when
we
send
leads
out,
we
send
them
to
the
hotels
and
we
are
not
allowed
it's
Anti-Trust
laws
we're
not
allowed
to
negotiate
rates
or
availability,
because
we're
not
allowed
to
do
that.
So
if
the
hotel
is
happy,
if
we
send
them
a
lead,
if
that
lead
is
at
a
time
when
they
already
have
a
piece
of
business,
they
decline
it,
but
they
want
it,
and
so
we're
sending
out
leads
every
week
to
the
property.
So
again
they
expect
and
want
that
effort.
I
mean
it.
Also.
AK
I
Thank
you,
and
you
know,
I
I
still
think
there
is
data
that
would
be
useful
for
me
I'm,
going
to
support
this
this
time,
while
I
I
can't
quite
clearly
see
the
value
I.
A
lot
of
my
colleagues
here
do,
and
you
know,
I
don't
have
proof
that
there
isn't
value
but
I
think
it's
because
there's
just
a
woeful
lack
of
data
collected
by
the
team,
particularly
Evanston,
specific
data,
so.
I
I
I
know
that
we've
had
conversations
in
the
past
and
I've
shared
my
concerns
with
you
and
with
Paul
at
economic
development
committee
and
in
other
places,
and
so
next
year,
I'm
hoping
we,
we
Implement
a
better
data
model
and
then
I'll
note
that
you
know
who,
who
are
we
really
subsidizing
here?
I
I
I
My
point
being
is
that
they're,
the
people
who
own
these
hotels
are
doing
just
fine.
The
people
up
at
the
top
are
are
making
quite
a
bit
of
money
and
they're
doing
just
fine
and
I,
don't
think
they
necessarily
need
the
City
of
Evanston
and
our
taxpayers
to
subsidize
this
again.
I
I
said
I'm
I'm
supported
this
year,
but
in
the
future,
I'd
really
love
to
see
more
data
and
how
this
impacts
are
a
smaller
and
local
businesses
and,
as
council
members
suffered
in
rightly
said,
this
is
potentially
funding
that
we
could
be
putting
to
better
work
and
so
for
next
year's
approval
and
I
figured
if
this
is
a
multi-year
contract
or
not.
No.
I
Next
year,
I'm
certainly
going
to
be
interested
in
seeing
better
data
of
how
this
impacts
the
City
of
Evanston.
Thank
you.
H
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
I'm,
fully
supportive
of
this
I
think
this
is
money
well
spent
we're
talking
about
less
than
seventy
thousand
dollars
out
of
a
budget
which
was
eighty
two
thousand
dollars.
That
was
our
budget
Miss
Beckman
your
organization's
annual
budget
is
this.
AK
H
Million
three
million
dollars,
so
what
we're
getting
is
really
leveraging
a
little
bit
of
money
from
you
know,
from
Evanston
taxpayers.
Getting
much
more
value
out
of
this
relationship
than
we're
paying
in
I
was
making
breakfast
for
my
kids
before
school
this
morning
and
listening
to
the
radio
and
heard
an
ad
for
Chicago's,
North,
Shore
convention
and
visitors
bureau.
It's
this
kind
of
thing
that
helps
put
Evanston
on
the
map.
We
need
more
of
this.
H
If
we
are
going
to
emerge
into
a
post-covered
economy
that
works
for
our
downtown,
we
need
more
people
in
town
and
we
need
to
pull
out
all
the
stops
on
getting
people
into
town
and
investing
in
the
visitors
bureau
helps
bring
people
to
town
and
I
think
we
should
all
be
very
excited
to
support
this
more
data
would
be
great
I
think
it
would
help
you.
You
know,
make
this
more
of
a
slam
dunk,
but
I'm
very
willing
to
approve
this
thanks.
Z
AK
Z
Right
come
on
Mister.
Thank
you
support.
This
I
think
the
the
work
is
being
done.
I
brought
this
up
during
the
economic
development
committee
meeting
I
I
do
think
there
is
a
way
to
track
data
more
just
because
you
can't
negotiate
directly,
doesn't
mean
you,
you
can't
know
when,
when
your
lead
closes,
you
know
that's
just
basic
sales,
stuff,
I'm,
a
sales
guy.
Z
That's
where
I
started
and
you
could
you
definitely
can
do
it
and
I
understand
we
all
get
into
habits
and
once
you
do
things
a
certain
way
for
so
long,
it's
easier
to
just
continue
doing
it.
That
way,
but
trust
me
there's
a
way
you
can
track
every
single
thing
that
you
do
as
a
bureau
and
I
think
you
should
I
think
it'll
help
when
you
come
back.
P
Z
Year
for
funding,
so
please
work
with
Paul
and
whoever
else
you
can
to
figure
out
how
you
can
track
that,
but
I
think
I
see
the
value
I
just
I
want
to
make
sure
we
have
the
data
to
support
it
next
time
and
we'll
continue
to
have
those
discussions
on
economic
development.
But
thank
you.
AC
Well,
Gina,
normally
I
am
a
strong
supporter
of
your
your
budget.
I
do
think
the
visitors
bureau
provides
a
really
important
service
to
the
community
and
brings
brings
business
to
our
hotels.
AC
Our
restaurants,
Etc
but
I
have
to
say
I
was
very
disappointed
in
reading
the
I
think
it
was
an
Evidence
and
now
article
about
your
statement
at
the
meeting
that
Northwestern
convened
for
which
for
the
chamber
back
in
December,
and
it
wasn't
only
that
you
were
speaking
out
in
support
of
the
stadium,
but
your
your
comments
really
were
disparaging
to
my
residence,
so
I'm
going
to
have
to
vote
no.
B
B
Right
the
standard
is
for
a
minute,
while
I
I
T
staff
figure
out
how
to
play
these.
AK
AK
I
know
that
there's
concerns
about
traffic,
but
I
also
know
that
concerts
and
the
demographics
or
concerts
bring
people
that
take
public
transportation
and
I
can't
think
of
any
other
football
stadium.
The
ones
I
work
with
are
the
ones
in
the
Big
Ten
that
have
a
city
and
Suburban
train
line
coming
on
each
side
of
the
stadium.
AK
AK
Northwestern
University
makes
Evanston
a
college,
town
and
college
towns
are
all
special
and
unique
lots
of
businesses.
The
hotels,
a
lot
of
restaurants
and
stores
wouldn't
be
here.
If
Northwestern
wasn't
here.
There
are
a
lot
of
benefits
that
Evanston
has
by
having
five
hotels
in
the
city.
Not
only
are
those
hotels
in
the
top
10
of
taxpayers
of
property
tax,
but
the
hotel
tax
generates
millions
of
dollars
from
people
from
out
of
town,
and
that
is
money
that
any
City
wants
it's
money
paid
for
by
out-of-towners.
You
don't
have
to
pick
up
their
garbage.
AK
You
don't
have
to
educate
their
children,
they
come
here,
spend
their
money
and
they
leave,
and
that
is
great
money
that
any
municipality
wants.
I'm,
genus,
Beckman
I'm
excited
about
the
new
Ryan
Field
project,
because
I
think
it'll
be
a
game
changer
for
Evanston
to
have
a
state-of-the-art
facility
right
here.
W
AK
W
AK
I,
don't
know
from
it
I'm
not
denying
it.
Should
you
think
what
I
said
in
that
video
is
pretty
much
representing
my
organizations
and
boards
to
stance
on
this
again.
We're
we're
stating
our
stands
from
the
business
side
of
it
from
the
hospitality
business
side
and
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
others
and
we're
not
going
to
have
any
real
say
in
the
decision
at
the
end.
But
we
have
our
right
to
have
our
opinion
and.
AK
W
And
I
know
I'm
running
low
on
time,
but
you
mentioned
DC
or
your
state.
Money
comes
through
dceo.
AK
Yes,
the
cities
that
certify
you,
they
have
a
pot
of
money,
that's
allocated
for
the
local
ltcb
fund,
local
tourism
convention
Bureau
fund
and
how
many
cities
certify
them.
They
divide
up
the
money
to
the
36
bureaus
with
some
formula.
AK
AE
B
If
we're
going
to
be
really
brutal
in
our
assessment
of
the
mayor
here,
which
is
appropriate
and
wise,
I
was
a
little
lenient
with
council
member
suffered
in
because
he
really
shouldn't
have
had
that
little
question
and
answer
period
after
the
videos
once
again
never
go
on
vacation.
You
get
soft.
I
Okay,
thank
you.
I
I,
just
want
to
add
that
you
know
actually
I
I
too
was
not
fully
aware
of
or
really
aware
at
all
of
the
situation,
and
that
actually
was
pretty
mild
to
me.
I
mean
I,
I,
guess,
there's
other
things
out
there,
but
I
I
see
the
point
of
that.
You
know
we
have
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
come
here
and
Advocate
against
bags
and
against
all
kinds
of
policies
that
we
are
moving
forward
on
and
I'm
offended.
I
You
know
we
give
money
to
the
chamber
and
we
give
money
to
you,
know
the
SSA
groups
and
whatever
else,
and
they
do
their
job
and
Advocate
on
behalf
of
the
businesses
that
they
have
and
I
don't
like
their
positions,
maybe
eighty
percent
of
the
time
that
they
fall
down
on.
But
you
know
I,
don't
know
if
it's
you
know,
unless
they
completely
step
out
of
line
appropriate
to
you,
know,
punish
them
for
advocating
for
the
their
own
interest
and
so
I
I
still
am
supportive.
I
Now,
I'm
still
completely
skeptical
of
all
all
of
this,
but
for
now
I'm
supportive
and
I
really
do
just
want
to
double
down
on
getting
more
data
next
year
and
doubling
down
on
what
council
member
Burns
said.
If
you
can
work
with
the
rest
with
the
businesses
to
understand
where
the
leads
are
going,
that's
data
that
is
really
important
to
me.
Moving
forward
as
well
as
more
targeted
data
on
what
are
the
number
of
hits
to
advertisements
that
are
coming
to
Evanston
or
post
and
and
all.
B
Councilman
seconds
will
the
clerk
please
take
the
role
and
the
motion
to
call
the
question.
E
Y
P
B
B
AK
H
I
will
move
item
82
recommending
the
hiring
of
a
full-time
food
service
coordinator.
V
B
Second,
council
member
newsma
I
believe
moves
approval
of
this
of
this
higher
council
member
Harris
seconds.
Is
there
any
discussion.
AE
W
W
Have
a
question
they're
friendly?
How
long
do
you
see
this
taking
to
become
Revenue
neutral
to
possibly
profitable.
W
AH
AE
AH
I
Also,
just
I'm
fully
supported
this.
We
had
discussion
at
economic
development
but
I'm
curious
to
that
question.
I
How
are
you
going
to
track
the
you
know,
success
of
this
individual
position
and
what
is
the
revenue
brought
in
because
of
this
position
versus
what
might
have
happened?
Naturally,.
AH
So
we
have
met
with
our
finance
team
and
so
we're
act,
adding
line
items
for
concession
right
now.
You
know
we
really
look
at
this
as
a
food
program,
and
so
this
is
not
going
to
be
any
different
from
our
other.
You
know
Parks
and
Rec
programs.
AH
Right
now
we
have
Recreation
programs
that
are
managed
some
in-house
and
also
some
by
vendors
contractors,
and
so
we'd
like
to
do
the
same
thing
with
our
food
program,
except
for
we
don't
have
anyone
that
specializes
in
food
and
so
we'd
like
to
ensure
that
person
specializes
in
food
and
services,
and
so
that's
why
we've
created
a
new
job
description,
but
there's
still
a
coordinator
position
and
so
we'll
be
able
to
make
line
items
that
are
specific
to
concession
and
food.
So
we
can
make
sure
that
we
are
looking
at
those
line
items
specifically.
I
And
then
last
question
here
is
I
know
that
you
or
someone
and
all
of
our
staff
are
are
are
concerned
about
equity
and
I'm,
curious,
I.
Think
I've
heard
you
speak
about
using
this
both
position
in
the
vacant
spaces.
To
achieve
some
of
that.
So
can
you
talk
a
bit
about
how
your
thoughts
on
how
we
can
ensure
that
we
utilize
this
to
engage
folks,
you
know
to
use
this
as
a
business
building
opportunity
or
whatever
the
case
may
be.
AH
Yes,
so
of
course,
we'd
like
to
engage
our
Workforce
Development
Community,
specifically
because
we
recognize
that,
because
we
have
so
many
spaces,
the
food
service
is
going
to
look
different
in
each
one
of
those
spaces.
What
I
want
to
eat
at
the
Arrington
Lagoon
is
going
to
look
a
lot
different
than
what
I
want
to
eat
at
a
hockey
game,
and
so
that's
why
we
need
a
specific
individual
that
will
be
able
to
outline
each
one
of
those
spaces
and
so
we'd
love
to
be
able
to
have
our
community
members
work
those
spaces.
AH
And
so,
when
we
are
looking
at
contracts
from
restaurants
or
doing
some
of
this
in-house,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
those
restaurants
will
be
able
to
hire
our
community
members
and
so
that
they
are
able
to.
You
know,
make
a
fair
right
wage
so
that
they're
able
to
work
into
our
spaces
and
put
the
money
back
into
Evanston
yeah.
I
Well,
I
would
encourage
our
newspaper
or
newspapers
that
may
be
listening,
but
certainly
the
one
that
is
here
and
you
know
Evanston
now
can
come
up
with
some
salacious
headline
and
I
encourage
folks
to
get
this
out
there
and
to
let
folks
know
that
you
know
we
that
this
is
something
that
your
department
is
taking
on.
I
So
you
know
folks
who
have
business
ideas
or
they're
doing
smoothies
or
nachos
or
whatever
the
heck
it
is,
or
you
want
to
do
it
that
you
know
they
know
that
in
the
next
few
months
they
can
start
reaching
out
to
the
Parks
and
Recreation
Department
to
you
know
to
pursue
some
of
these
opportunities,
and
so
maybe
Bob
or
Matt
simonett
or
someone
from
Roundtable
can
can
help
us
get
this
information
out
there,
as
well
as
an
effort
internally.
I
I
think
we
certainly
I'm
sure
you
will
and
our
Communications
Department
should
take
a
great
effort
to
make
sure
that
evanstonians
and
you
know
more
marginalized
communities-
and
you
know
even
folks
who
are
just
small
business
owners
and
not
necessarily
marginalized,
but
local
are
getting
these
opportunities
to
to
to
use
our
facilities
and
make
some
make
some
dough
for
both
of
us.
Councilmember.
AH
I
M
B
Eight
voting
in
favor
and
non-voting
against
the
motion
carries
this
brings
us
to
call
of
the
awards.
Council,
member
Harris
I.
V
H
AC
Ravel
just
a
reminder:
I
have
award
meeting
tomorrow
evening
a
Paracel
room
on
the
fourth
floor
here
at
seven
o'clock.
We're
gonna
have
a
really
interesting
proposal,
I
think
for
a
pocket,
neighborhood
of
10
efficiency
homes
and
three
adus
on
Grant
Street,
and
then
we're
also
going
to
have
a
an
update
from
Kara
Pratt
about
our
climate
action
plan.
I
Yes,
I
have
an
eighth
Ward
meeting
this
Thursday,
the
31st
at
6
p.m.
At
the
levy,
Senior
Center,
we
will
have
Laura
Biggs
our
chief
city
engineer
as
well
as
Clayton
black
in
the
in
our
finance
department.
Both
of
them
will
be
speaking.
I
Laura
will
be
speaking
on
our
Capital
Improvements
plan,
as
well
as
our
unfunded,
City
infrastructure
liabilities
from
roads
to
facilities
and
Clayton
will
be
giving
us
a
a
review
of
our
budget
year
to
date,
as
well
as
discussing
the
new
pension
policy
that
the
council
I
believe
unanimously
adopted.
I
B
No
report
council
member
new
Smith's
recognized
to
make
a
motion.
H
Pursuant
to
five
Illinois
compiled
statutes,
120
Slash,
two
I
move
that
the
city
council
convened
into
executive
session
to
discuss
agenda
items
regarding
workers,
compensation,
litigation,
collective
bargaining
and
Minutes
review.
These
agenda
items
are
permitted
subjects
to
be
considered
in
executive
session
and
our
enumerated
exceptions
under
the
open
meetings
act,
those
exceptions
being
five
ilcs
120-2,
slash
section,
C2,
11,
12
and
21.