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A
A
We
have
a
quorum
president
and
are
prepared
to
do
our
work.
I
wanted
to
give
just
a
little
road
map
of
the
evening
ahead
of
us.
We'll
begin
with
regular
public
comment
for
the
council
meeting
itself.
When
that
concludes,
we
will
move
to
the
truth
and
Taxation
hearing,
which
will
be
we'll
have
more
people.
A
Speaking
than
the
traditional
public
comment,
then
we'll
move
on
to
special
orders
of
business
when
that,
when
we
got
to
that
stage
of
the
agenda,
what
I
will
what
I
would
propose
and
request
is
that
we
initially
not
have
any
motions
made
on
these
items
that
we
have
a
discussion
where
members
of
council
have
the
opportunity
to
ask
questions
and
give
guidance
and
hear
from
staff
at
the
conclusion
of
that,
what
I
would
request
is
that
we
have
a
motion
to
table
all
of
these
special
orders
of
business
for
one
week,
so
they
would
appear
on
the
November
14th
agenda.
A
The
reason
for
that
is
that
the
items
here
that
are
ordinances
that
are
on
the
agenda
for
introduction
if
they
were
to
pass
tonight,
they
would
then
appear
on
the
agenda
next
week
for
Action.
The
intention,
as
articulated
in
the
calendar
that
was
first
released
I,
think
a
couple
months
ago
now
was
for
the
budget
not
to
be
passed
until
October,
nope,
November,
21st,
and
so
we're
surpassing.
These
tonight
would
put
us
on
a
accelerator,
a
calendar
that
I
would
prefer
that
we
avoid
so
again
we'll
go
right
now
to
public
comment.
A
Then
we'll
have
the
truth
and
Taxation
hearing
then
a
discussion
about
the
special
orders
of
business
and
then
I
would
request
a
motion
to
table
the
special
order
of
orders
of
business
for
one
week
with
that
we
go
to
public
comment,
beginning
with
those
who
signed
up
in
person.
Everyone
will
this
evening
have
three
minutes.
We
start
with
Mike
fasilko.
C
Point
I'm,
sorry
for
the
road
map,
so
this
public
comment
is
separate
of
the
truth
and
Taxation
hearing,
which
will
then
be
a
separate
public
comment
period.
A
It'll
be
a
truth
and
Taxation
hearing
that
may
have
a
lot
in
common
with
how
public
comment
goes,
it'll
be
an
opportunity
for
the
public
to
weigh
in.
In
fact,
some
people
will
will
participate
both
in
the
truth
and
Taxation
hearing
and
public
comment.
Others
will
participate
in
just
one
or
the
other,
as
they've
indicated
their
preference
okay.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you.
So
many
of
you
have
young
children
or
grandchildren
I'm
sure
you
cherish
them
so
I
ask.
Why
would
we
leave
them
a
world
or
we
would
leave
behind
a
world
that
they'll
experience
as
a
new
kind
of
Hell
on
Earth
the
headline
from
the
U.N
climate
action
conference?
D
You
must
be
aware
of
the
forest
fires.
If
you
watch
any
of
the
news
or
read
papers
or
listen
to
the
radio
forest
fires,
Amazon's
rainforest
is
being
commercialized
melting
in
both
ice
caps,
rising
ocean
levels
swallowing
up
island
nations,
the
tsunamis,
drought,
flooding
longer
hurricane
Seasons,
Etc,
all
catastrophic
weather
events,
but
and
Evanston
we're
fortunate,
we're
kind
of
in
that
sweet
spot
in
between
all
of
that,
we're
not
really
impacted.
So
why
do
we
care?
D
Well,
our
lake
level
is
rising
and
our
Lake
Edge
erosion
is
occurring
because
of
that
rising
and
because
of
like
action.
So
so
far
we've
escaped
the
most,
but
we
are
contributing
to
the
cause
to
The
Climate
problem,
our
pollution
Rises
and
adds
to
all
the
other
locations
where
pollution
is
a
problem.
So
we
should
care
and
we
need
to
do
more
than
we're
doing.
D
It's
simple
I've
spoken
on
this
before
I'm,
asking
somebody
on
the
council
to
take
the
lead
and
move
to
cons
to
add
a
new
fund
differ
from
the
carb
fund.
The
carb
fund
is
a
pilot
program.
Basically
a
million
dollars
going
in
2023,
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
which
is
being
given
to
a
for-profit
contractor
by
the
way,
but
it's
it's
lucky
I
suppose
to
help.
D
Maybe
50
households
in
Evanston
proposal
I've
been
advocating
for
would
help
eliminate
either
fossil
fuel
burning
in
homes
for
heat
or
would
allow
residents
of
Evanston
to
purchase,
help
the
towards
the
purchase
of
an
electric
field
and
will
do
of
a
combustion
engine.
Fossil
fuels
is
the
core
of
the
problem.
If
you
eliminate
the
fossil
fuels,
you're
eliminating.
D
So
I'm
looking
for
somebody
to
stand
up
and
do
the
right
thing,
this
fund
needs
tens
of
millions
of
dollars
to
support
a
thousand
households
I'm
turning
to
Mayor
biss
to
help
lead
evanston's
action
plan
going
forward
time,
apologies
to
council
members
and
wisma,
but
you
lost
my
confidence
this
last
weekend
in
your
response
to
my
email
pleading
to
you
to
do
something
about
this
and
start
a.
D
Can
I
add
just
one
more
thing:
I
want
to
share
the
good
news,
so
a
30-year
veteran
who
has
been
following
this
and
participating
in
these
climate
actions
has
a
quote.
He
says
I
can
say
I
can't,
say
I'm
optimistic.
D
A
C
E
Thank
you
good
evening.
Everyone
first
I'd
like
to
thank
you
for
hosting
the
truth
and
Taxation
hearing
I'd
like
to
ask
you
all.
First,
what's
the
difference
between
a
public
hearing
and
public
comment,
it
seems
you
treat
them.
You
treat
them
both
the
same,
which
is
very
confusing
and
frustrating
for
the
residents
who
are
looking
for
answers.
E
Some
discussion,
you
know
a
dialogue
as
presented
in
all
Council
agendas.
That's
what
we're
supposed
to
be.
Having
the
dialogue!
Two
weeks
ago
on
1024,
we
were
supposed
to
have
a
budget
hearing
posted
in
Chicago
Tribune
to
start
at
six.
It
did.
It
did
not
with
no
explanation
and
no
apology.
It
was
not
even
listed
on
the
City
calendar
and
no
sign
up
sheet
for
this
so-called
budget
hearing.
E
There
was
a
request
by
three
council
members
to
have
the
budget
hearing
continued
thanks.
Comp,
council
members,
Kelly,
Burns
and
Reed
when
and
where
will
this
contingent?
This
continued
budget
hearing
take
place,
we
are
continuously
told
there
are.
There
is
plenty
of
time
and
plenty
of
opportunities
of
public
input,
that's
great,
but
we
need
some
feedback
from
all
council
members.
We
need
that
dialogue,
as
stated
in
every
city
council
agenda.
E
E
I'm,
thinking
that
increasing
the
budget
between
last
year
and
next
year
by
107
million
dollars
is
Extreme.
That's
a
25
increase
in
the
budget
from
2021
to
2023..
Do
we
have
a
projected
25
percent
increase
in
our
2023
income?
If
we
do,
then
we
need
to
be
contributing
more
to
pensions,
climate
change,
like
Mike
just
said,
and
reducing
our
property
taxes,
not
raising
our
property
taxes.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
That's
the
end
of
the
people
who
signed
in
in
person
to
speak
in
the
for
a
regular
public
comment.
Others
signed
up
in
person
to
speak
in
the
truth
and
Taxation
hearing
which
will
happen
soon,
but
we
first
moved
to
the
online
public
comments.
Participants
we'll
begin
with
Mary
rosinski,
who
will
be
followed
by
Dorian
price.
F
All
right,
thank
you
very
much
for
a
couple
comment
and
I.
F
Like
Ray
was
saying,
can
we
please
try
to
be
respectful
of
everyone's
time
when
it
comes
to
what
meetings
start
at
what
time
I
mean?
So
much
of
my
comment
that
I
wanted
to
speak
on,
we
did
say
to
the
truth
in
taxation,
but
it
was
also
more
important
to
me
that
the
that
the
that
the
budget
be
correct
and
before
we
present
it
for
any
sort
of
hearing
and
there's
mistakes
in
the
budget
that
need
to
be
rectified.
F
So
I'm
going
to
try
to
stay
around
I,
have
a
meeting
a
zoom
meeting
for
a
business.
That's
supposed
to
start
at
eight,
so
I
may
not
be
around,
but
there
were
a
lot
of
things
we
have
to
pay
off
our
pensions.
We
so
we
don't
have
ongoing
debt.
We
just
keep
paying
interest
on
top
of
interest.
Just
everything
in
the
Civic
Center
should
be
taken
out
of
the
budget.
We
don't
have
the
backup
documentation.
The
windows
are
not
broken.
F
F
We've
already
spent
I
think
600
000
dollars
in
Tuck,
pointing
so
who's
ever
doing
our
tuck,
pointing
ordinarily
would
look
at
the
raw
project,
so
these
are
all
things
that
go
to
day
in
and
day
out
year
in
and
year
out,
and
we
have
no
way
as
a
resident
where
we
can
look
at
our
City
website
and
say:
okay
in
2020.
We
did
this
in
2021,
we
did
this.
F
G
Mayor
this
and
city
council
also
mayor
rosinski,
thank
you
thank
you
for
speaking,
both
of
us
I
believe
would
be
speaking
today
and
what
the
upcoming
meeting,
because
we
both
thought
we
were
going
to
be
attending
both
so
I
applied
for
both
when
I
found
out
about
it
just
right
after
I
applied
before
the
council
meeting
to
make
sure
I
could
do
both
so
I.
Don't
know
what
other
approach
will
work,
but
please
include
me
for
both
comments
for
both
days
and
others.
So
my
comment
is:
please
extend
the
budget
discussions.
G
G
They're
doing
their
best
to
help
us
as
well
and
not
being
a
burden
to
them
is
not
a
good
thing
right.
I
mean
it
is
a
good
thing
not
to
be
a
burden
to
our
communities
that
we
depend
upon.
How
else
can
we
synergize
increase
synergize,
you're
synergizing
with
these
communities
synergize
and
create
procedures,
policies
and
budgets,
reflecting
Unity,
compassion
and
real
prosperity
for
all,
morally,
ethically
and
legally?
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
This
concludes
public
comment
for
the
evening.
We
move
now
to
the
next
item
on
our
agenda.
The
truth
in
taxation,
herein,
the
Evanston
city
council,
is
conducting
a
public
hearing
on
the
2022
property
tax
levy.
The
purpose
of
this
hearing
is
to
allow
for
public
input
on
the
proposed
Levy.
There
will
be
no
final
action
on
the
tax
levy.
A
Today,
the
2022
proposed
tax
levy
was
included,
included
in
the
2022
proposed
budget
and
can
be
found
at
www.cityofevenston.org
budget
I
hereby
convene
the
hearing
for
the
2022
property
tax
levy
to
be
open.
We
now
we
begin
with
a
comment
from
the
community,
we'll
start
as
per
usual
with
those
who
signed
up
here
in
person.
Much
like
the
previous
set
of
comments,
everyone
will
be
given
three
minutes.
We
start
with
Mike
fasilko.
D
So,
at
the
town
hall
meeting
last
week,
our
CFO
presented
the
funding
for
the
pension
debt,
as
we
are
in
good
shape
better
than
most.
D
At
Tesh
repeatedly
said
there
are
no
2022
Geo
bonds,
yet
tonight's
packet,
as
referenced
throughout,
about
projects
being
funded
by
2022,
Geo
bonds,
Laura
Biggs,
memos
to
the
council
and
others
also
refer
to
funding
using
2022
Geo
bonds.
So
it's
frustrating
that
continues
the
bobwitz
fashion
of
lying
to
the
public
lying
to
the
council
and
to
say
that
there
are
no
2022.
Geo
bonds
may
be
fine,
but
then
you
don't
come
forward
with
a
a
packet
that
presents
CIP
projects
using
2022,
Geo
bonds.
It
just
doesn't
make
sense,
you
know
it's,
it's
disingenuous!
D
Where
are
and
how
are
the
2021-2022
surpluses
being
used?
There's
14
million
dollars
reported
to
be
for
2022,
so
far,
I
think.
As
of
September
76
million
dollars
from
2021,
there
was
a
list
of
all
the
2021
funds
showing
what
the
Surplus
is.
It
does
doesn't
tell
us
how
that's
being
used
so
what's
aggravating
is
that
we
can
fund
the
pensions.
D
We
could
fund
real
climate
action
with
those
surpluses
and
many
other
things
without
raising
taxes,
and
you
know
I'm,
just
tired
of
the
lies
I'm
tired
of
of
being
running
around
in
circles,
trying
to
figure
all
this
out
before
a
meeting
so
at
the
expense
of
fully
funding
the
pensions
and
fully
funding
a.
D
I
Good
evening,
members
of
the
council,
members
of
the
rest
of
the
world,
I'm
Timothy
Schoolmaster
I'm,
president
of
the
Board
of
Trustees,
of
the
Evanston
police
pension
fund.
This
morning,
I
sent
you
under
separate
cover
for
documents
and
the
tax
levy
request
from
the
police
pension
fund,
as
required
by
Statute
clerk
Mendoza
tells
me
those
have
been
distributed.
I
I
Next
year,
when
we
see
this
year's
numbers-
and
we
already
know
some
of
them,
what
they're
going
to
be
the
picture
will
not
be
this
Rosy
and
that's
why
I
implore
you
to
use
some
of
these
reserves
to
catch
up
while
we
can
also,
during
that
same
period,
over
10
percent
of
the
police
department
has
left,
they
have
not
left
policing,
they
have
left
Evanston
policing,
they
have
gone.
These
are
mid-career
excellent
people
who
would
be
our
future
supervisors
they've
gone
elsewhere.
I
If
you
don't
know
the
reasons
why
they
left,
maybe
you
should
inquire
on
November
1st
I
did
a
trial
run
at
the
request
for
award
meeting
I
did
a
presentation
on
the
the
history
and
the
situation
with
the
Pension
funds
and
I
I,
don't
like
to
toot
my
own
horn,
but
people
said
it
was
well
received.
They
said
I
begin
to
understand
some
of
this,
and
so
I
have
asked
that
I
could
do
that
presentation
next
week.
I
wait
to
hear
from
you.
I
This
is
we're
asking
for
100
funding
with
so
many
members
of
the
council
new
in
your
responsibilities
and
not
knowing
how
these
things
work,
and
so
many
of
the
taxpayers
not
being
knowledgeable
about
the
extra
burden
they
are
shouldering
because
of
prior
council's
failure
to
act
on
these
things.
I
think
this
would
be
a
worthwhile
presentation.
So
thank
you
for
your
attention.
J
Good
evening
and
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
you
the
basis
of
my
well,
my
name
is
Jack
mortell
I'm,
a
lifelong
resident
I've
been
a
taxpaying
homeowner
since
the
70s
I'm,
a
retired
captain
from
the
Evansville
Fire
Department
and
I'm,
an
elected
member
of
the
Edison
firefighters
pension
fund,
I
represent
the
retired,
the
disabled
and
widows
and
I
want
to
address
a
historic
underfunding
of
the
pension
fund
and
urge
you
that
this,
the
tax
levy,
investment,
return
assumption
for
this
year,
don't
adopt
6.5,
exactly
adopt.
J
6.25
is
recommended
by
the
Actuarial
using
the
numbers.
I
took
right
off
the
website
and
I
applaud
the
website.
You
can
find
all
sorts
of
great
information
on
there.
I
did
a
going
back
from
2012
when
we
switched
to
a
January
to
January
budget
through
2020
and
I.
Looked
at
the
approved
budget
versus
what
the
actual
was
it
takes
a
year
or
so
to
see
what
the
actual
is
and
then
I
wrote
down
the
difference.
It's
pretty
simple
math
and
in
that
period
the
fire
pension
fund
was
underfunded
by
three
million
dollars
right
there.
J
You
wonder
how
we
get
in
these
situations
and
that's
because
they
were
using
this
6.5.
They
used
the
6.25
we'd
actually
been
gaining,
but
this
is
this
is
a
Pennywise
and
really
pound
foolish
and
so
again,
I
want
to
urge.
So
what
happens
when
you're
over
three
million
dollars
in
budget?
It
doesn't
come
from
the
general
fund.
It
doesn't
come
from
other
secret
fund,
you
cannibalize
the
pension
fund,
so
we're
losing.
So
in
that
period
independent
Investments,
we
lost
three
million
dollars
and
that's
going
to
continue
on
that
course.
K
Thank
you,
mayor
biss
and
members
of
the
council.
I
was
asked
to
take
a
look
at
the
budget
by
some
citizens
and
at
the
risk
of
being
triggered,
I
did
so
preliminarily
I.
Don't
think
that
a
hearing
should
have
three-minute
time
limits
if
it's
in
the
spirit,
even
if
we're
not
sworn
of
the
truth,
the
whole
truth
and
nothing
but
the
truth.
The
three
minutes
can
only
be
a
general
statement
of
opinion.
I'll
try
and
hit
a
couple
of
a
couple
of
specifics.
K
I
think
the
budget
still
has
too
many
areas
of
vagueness
and
unsupported
assumptions.
It's
really
impossible
for
the
average
citizen
and
I
think
probably
most
Council
people
to
scrutinize,
because
it
has
too
many
large
numbers
without
backup
or
detail
it.
It
also
represents
a
problematic
increase
in
spending
without
an
attendant
increase
in
offsetting.
Revenue
spending
is
accomplished
at
a
net
loss
for
all
the
funds
mentioned
using
one-time
monies,
whether
they're
arpa
funds
or
surpluses,
but
committing
to
repeating
expenses
for
the
future.
K
This
means
you'll
necessarily
have
Revenue
increases
later,
which
we
don't
want
to
do
committing
to
raising
taxes,
fines
or
fees
in
the
future.
At
a
time
when
any
evanstonian
with
the
401k
or
IRA
has
seen
that
plunge
by
twenty
percent
in
the
last
year,
while
their
personal
costs
of
living
have
increased,
seems
a
little
tone,
deaf
easy
targets
for
reduction
or
elimination
are
the
millions
of
dollars,
in
quote
other
improvements,
stated
for
Tiff
districts
without
any
backup
or
detail.
K
We're
talking
millions
of
dollars,
six
million
dollars
for
two
districts
alone,
with
one
line
with
no
explanation,
no
backup,
no
detail.
This
is
a
recipe
for
bad
government.
The
capital
budget
represents
additional
borrowing
at
a
time
when
we're
seeing
the
highest
interest
rates.
In
years,
when
Debt
Service
already
equals
22
percent
of
general
fund
expenditures,
I
would
hold
off
on
that,
just
as
any
business
or
household
would.
Until
we
can
see,
interest
rates
come
down
a
little
bit
in
particular
2.4
million
dollars
in
Fountain.
K
Square
improvements
seems
like
throwing
good
money
after
bad
when
we've
seen
no
consequences
for
the
mismanagement
of
that
expensive
and
unsightly
project.
Instead
of
giving
those
responsible
Millions
more
in
public
funds
to
to
squander
there's
very
little,
data
on
utilization
and
metrics
return
on
investment
or
bang
for
the
buck
in
the
budget,
I
applaud
and
some
of
the
efforts
of
some
departments.
Some
of
the
information
provided
by
the
fire
department
on
EMS
use
and
is
valuable
and
help.
K
If
somebody's
trying
to
take
this
seriously,
you
might
disagree,
but
at
least
with
with
some
of
the
numbers.
But
at
least
you
can
take
a
look
at
them.
I
do
believe,
there's
some
institutionalized
overspending
when
we're
talking
about
pensions
and
we
have
not
been
responsible
in
funding
those,
but
we
have
to
take
pensions
into
consideration
when
we're
making
spending
commitments
now,
because
it
all
adds.
A
K
Okay,
so
please
think
of
the
think
of
the
people
first,
so
that
we
don't
have
to
put
a
subtitle
under
the
budget
every
year
called.
This
is
why
we
can't
have
nice
things.
Thank
you.
L
Thank
you,
mayor
bis
and
council
members.
I
am
a
third
year
resident
of
Evanston
and
also
on
the
finance
and
budget
committee.
I
was
heartened
and
happy
to
hear
that
we
aren't.
You
aren't
doing
any
voting
on
the
budget,
because
the
committee
is
still
awaiting
information
from
hitesh
I
know:
David
Livingston's,
given
a
couple
repeated
requests
for
information
that
I
hope
we
can
see
before
we
you
move
forward
on
this
I
would
just
say
you
know.
L
I
was
happy
to
hear
that
some
members
of
council
are
not
interested
in
raising
the
levy,
but
at
the
same
time,
I
worry
that
we're
playing
a
dangerous
shell
game.
If
we
continue
to
not
do
the
hard
work
of
actually
cutting
spending
and
addressing
our
pensions,
all
we're
going
to
do
is
inflate
our
our
debt,
as
well
as
inflating
and
having
increasing
rises
in
the
pension
and
and
the
outcome
for
that
will
be
I'm
sure
a
drop
in
our
credit
rating.
L
E
Good
evening,
once
again,
first
I'd
like
to
say
that
the
budget
hearing
or
budget
hearing
should
be
a
discussion.
I
think
any
of
the
hearings
should
be
a
discussion
so
that
the
residents
know
and
able
to
have
their
questions
asked
and
answered
at
at
that
point
in
time
we
should
have
started
the
budget
discussion,
I
believe
in
June
or
July,
and
all
the
residents
should
be
clear
on
the
budget
before
it's
presented
to
city
council.
E
I've
been
here
for
six
years
now,
I
wanted
to
make
some
observations
that
I've
seen
first
I'd
like
to
thank
council
member,
Kelly
and
Ward
wonderful
for
staying
engaged
working
with
residents
and
having
great
Ward
meetings.
Next,
thank
you
to
our
second
ward
council
member
Chrissy
Harris
for
our
first
second
ward
meeting
at
Robert
Crown.
E
It
was
awesome,
but
can
we
please
record
them
I'm,
sorry
to
say
that
I've
not
been
to
a
third
ward
meeting
with
Melissa
Nguyen,
I,
hope,
she's
feeling
better
Jonathan
said
she
had
minor
surgery
thanks
to
Jonathan
newsma
for
your
informative,
warm
meet
Ward
meetings
at
Robert
Crown
and
thanks
to
Dan
Coyne
for
recording
them.
Next
I
always
try
to
attend
the
Fifth
Ward
meetings,
thanks
to
Bobby
Burns
for
hosting
them.
E
I
also
remember:
attending
a
couple
of
great
Robin
Rue
Simmons
Christmas,
slash,
Hanukkah
parties,
great
food
at
Gibbs,
Morrison,
great
decorations,
complete
with
Santa
and
gifts
for
all,
and
many
of
those
award
meetings
were
recorded.
I
believe
only
I
only
attended
one
six-worth
award
meeting
a
joint
meeting
with
council
member
Revell
a
couple
of
years
ago
to
talk
about
the
budget.
Also.
Thank
you
to
council
member
Revell
for
a
very
informative
meetings
at
the
Ecology,
Center
and
I
believe
all
of
your
meetings
were
recorded.
Also
thanks
for
that.
E
One
of
the
first
experiences
I
had
after
moving
to
Evanston
six
years
ago,
was
with
Devon
Reed,
who
was
extremely
helpful,
with
paperwork
as
City
Clerk
and
always
engaged,
and
now
sorry
that
I
can't
join
any
of
your
award
meetings,
because
there's
two
three
or
four
meetings:
Evanston
meetings,
Ward
meetings
on
the
same
night.
Can
you
please
help
correct
this
problem?
H
E
Thank
you
with
Juan
I,
can't
pronounce
the
last
name.
Congratulations
on
your
new
position
and
hope
to
join
your
award
meetings
also
I
believe
Utah
have
them
recorded
in
both
English
and
Spanish,
and
thank
you
for
that.
E
A
M
Good
evening
I
had
the
unfun
pleasure
of
looking
at
the
city
budget,
which
I
know
all
of
you
have
I'm,
not
sure
how
deep
you've
gone,
but
I
went
deeper
than
I
ever
wanted
to
I
have
some
requests
show
us
the
debt
the
city
has
in
these
presentations
on
a
bar
graph,
including
the
additional
yearly
costs
for
not
paying
our
full
share
every
year
on
the
police
and
fire
pension.
M
M
M
M
We
need
to
rethink
the
whole
process
for
how
projects
are
put
forth
by
staff
for
the
next
year
and
have
greater
sensitivity
on
where
the
money
is
coming
from.
Y'all
want
to
explain
how
this
budget
represents
stabilizing
our
finances.
This
is
no
way
to
operate
a
budget.
The
situation
with
the
debt
is
unsustainable,
Citi
goal
climate
action
resilience
plan.
M
M
A
M
A
M
G
Hi
is
there
going
to
be
another
discussion
next
week,
mayor
I
I
might
have
misheard
that.
G
Okay,
well,
if
I'm,
not
my
bridge,
both
are
all
three
it's.
What
I
read
at
the
first
part
of
this
Council,
and
this
has
to
do
with
the
truth
in
taxation
and
the
way
we
view
the
budget,
and
you
heard
the
numbers,
the
from
Trish
that
are
pretty
convincing
about
where
the
money
might
be
going.
That
could
be
applied
in
different
directions
as
well.
So
my
public
comment
supports
those
numbers
as
well
as
other
voices.
G
You
heard
about
the
similarities
across
boards
or
the
reason
to
for
someone
like
Ray
to
attend
all
Ward
meetings.
It's
a
good
example
of
what
involvement
is
about
and
that
residents
can
make
a
difference.
G
So
my
comment
is:
please
extend
the
budget
discussions
Beyond
tonight
to
create
budgets
and
policies
that
Unite
with
compassion
and
prosperity
for
all.
How
can
residents
not
feel
ignored
or
excluded
when
old
processes
or
biases
prevail?
What,
if
increased,
inclusion
starting
now
stays
far
more
than
the
current
budget
proposal,
enhances
our
diversity
and
affordability,
well-being
with
sustainable
prosperity?
For
all
this
makes
me
embrace
exactly
what
Trish
said
fully
and
completely
tonight
to
challenge
assumptions
that
God
is
here:
pre
and
post
covid-19
with
Federal
rescue
funds
at
arpa.
G
Extending
the
budget
discussions
Beyond
tonight
could
also
make
huge
difference
in
Evanston
and
nearby
communities
who
partner
with
us.
How
else
can
we
synergize
and
create
procedures,
policies
and
budgets,
reflecting
Unity,
compassion
and
real
prosperity
for
all,
morally,
ethically
and
legally?
Thank
you.
A
A
A
Wanted
to
ask
you
to
come
to
the
podium,
because
there
was
a
pretty
serious
allegation
made
during
one
of
the
comments
and
I
wanted
to
see.
If
you
had
any
any
commentary
on
that.
N
Good
evening
mayor
members
of
the
city
council,
the
question
is
about
22
Geo
bonds
and
question
was
asked:
did
we
issue
the
Geo
bonds
and
the
answer
is
no,
and
then
they
say
why,
then
we
have
the
projects
listed
against
it
and
I
believe
I
can
have
the
Lara
answer
that.
But
the
intention
of
the
Lara
is
that
these
are
the
projects
intended
to
be
funded
out
of
the
Geo
bonds.
When
the
city
council
adopted
22
budget
last
November.
O
The
council,
my
name,
is
Laura
Biggs
I'm,
the
city
engineer.
Typically,
we
designate
bonds
to
be
sold
for
projects,
but
the
bonds
are
not
usually
sold
to
late
summer
every
year
and
so
early
in
the
year.
This
year
it
was
at
the
first
meeting
in
January
of
the
city
council
resolution.
4
R22
was
adopted.
O
That
basically
said
we
will
spend
against
the
Geo
bonds
for
the
year
and
then
we
will
reimburse
ourselves
when
we
approve
the
Geo
bond
issue,
so
that
committed
the
city
to
paying
for
the
cost,
for
2022
go
bonds
so
that
we
could
start
the
capital
Improvement
program.
Otherwise
we
would
not
be
able
to
move
forward
with
a
lot
of
the
projects
until
late
in
the
year,
so
that
was
done.
O
We
need
to
call
them
Geo
bonds,
because
that's
how
they're
designated
in
the
budget
that
was
adopted
by
city
council
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
track
them
back.
If
somebody
were
to
ask
us
hey
how
much
have
you
spent
in
this
pot
of
money?
There's
got
to
be
a
way
to
track
it,
and
so
that's
why
they
continue
to
be
referred
to
as
Geo
bonds
and
until
a
very
specific
pot
of
money,
other
than
2022
Geo
bonds
is
identified.
That
is
what
the
staff
intends
to
continue
to
refer
to
them
as.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
I
appreciate
the
explanation.
You
know,
I,
don't
do
this
very
often,
but
I
feel
compelled
to
do
it
now.
This
budget,
like
any
budget
of
an
organization
our
size
or
larger,
is
complicated.
It
inevitably,
in
being
so
complicated,
leaves
room
for
confusion
or
misinterpretation.
A
But
I
would
just
have
to
say
that
it
is
not
constructive
to
characterize
that
situation
as
lying,
and
it
is
counterproductive
to
accuse
someone
in
public
of
being
a
liar
because
of
either
a
misunderstanding
or
a
difference
of
interpretation
of
a
of
a
very,
very
complex,
long
document
and
I
think
that
it's
really
important
as
we
try
to
work
through
these
issues,
which
are
difficult,
which
are
complicated,
where
we
may
have
different
opinions
where
we
will
surely
have
different
priorities,
and
we
may,
at
times
in
good
faith,
have
different
literal
understandings
of
the
facts
to
find
a
mechanism
to
express
those
challenges
in
a
way
that
facilitates
productive
discussion
and
a
meeting
of
the
minds,
not
one
that
makes
that
impossible.
A
So
that's
my
request.
Something
I
try
to
hold
myself
accountable
to
it's
a
standard,
I
fall
short
of
sometimes
doubtless,
but
I
always
try
to
do
better.
It's
my
request
of
every
single
person
who
seeks
to
participate
in
this
process,
because
without
that,
we're
really
going
to
find
it
impossible
to
get
where
this
community
needs
us
to
go.
So
thank
you
both
Ms
Biggs
and
Mr
Desai.
For
that
very
helpful
explanation,
now,
I
want
to
open
the
truth
and
Taxation
hearing
to
council.
C
N
C
Okay
yeah
so
I
I'd
like
us
to
as
we
are.
A
I
mean
I
I.
Basically,
we're
gonna
have
two
opportunities
to
have
identical
discussions,
so
we
could
close
the
truth
and
Taxation
hearing
and
do
it
under
the
auspices
of
the
next
thing,
or
we
could
do
it
now.
I,
don't
think
it
matters
too
much,
but
probably
officially
at
this
point
it's
supposed
to
be
specifically
about
the
tax
levy.
C
Okay,
well,
in
that
case,
I
mean
I'll.
I'll
wait,
but
I
I
could,
if
I
really
wanted
to
say
that
well,
this
could
impact
the
tax
levy,
so
I'll
throw
that
question
out
there,
and
then
we
can
close.
P
C
The
hearing
out,
unless
there's
anything
else
that
folks
have
and
I
certainly
want
to
talk
about
some
of
the
stuff
during
the
budget
ordinance
discussion.
C
I'm
done
no
I'll
wait
to
for
the
response,
even
just
I'm.
Just
looking
at
I'd
like
to
know
what
the
2022
Beach
revenue
is.
Terrific.
Q
N
Depend
on
the
rate
environment
and
our
cash
situation,
I
mean
we
continue
to
draw
down
upon
right
now.
Our
CIP
projects,
even
I,
heard
from
our
city
engineer,
bigs
that
we
received
kind
of
a
big
invoice
from
idot
and
some
of
those
things.
So
if
we
yeah,
we
have
almost
like
six
or
seven
million
outstanding
to
them.
N
N
If
the
city
council
decides
to
move
forward
with
the
new
projects,
because
we
would
already
need
the
money
for
22
projects
which
are
well
adapted,
because
since
we
did
not
issue
the
Geo
Bond
funding,
we
have
to
find
the
alternative
source
of
funding
and
to
add
to
that,
if
the
city
council
decides
and
approve
any
of
the
CIP
projects,
yes,
interested
environment
is
volatile,
so
we're
keeping
an
eye
we
can
do.
We
have
a
line
of
credit.
So
if
the
need
be,
we
can
draw
upon
that.
N
But
that
would
come
at
a
high
interest
rate
because
it's
tied
to
the
fair
rate-
and
we
just
saw
that
we
had
a
rate
increase
last
week
so
right
now,
yes,
I,
don't
know
it
depends
on
interest
rate
environment
and
our
cash
situation,
and
obviously
we
would
continue
to
update
the
city
council.
A
Is
there
any
further
participation
in
the
truth
and
Taxation
hearing
from
Council
hearing
nothing
further
I
hereby
adjourn
this
herein.
A
This
brings
us
now
to
special
orders
of
business.
What
I
would
like
to
do
here
is
to
have
a
discussion
which
I
would
say
the
discussion
can
be
confined
to
any
of
these
special
orders
of
business
so
sp1
through
sp10.
Again,
my
request
would
be
at
the
end
of
that
discussion.
There'd,
be
a
motion
to
table
all
of
these
items
to
next
week,
but
we
begin
with
a
discussion
starting
with
council
member
Reed.
Well.
C
A
That's
fine,
okay,
so
councilmember
Reed
moves
items
sp1
through
sp10
council
member
news
seconds.
Is
there
any
discussion?
Councilmember
Reed
yeah.
C
Okay,
it's
not
looking
for
that
answer.
If
you
have
it,
do
you
know
what
a
2022
Beach
token
Revenue
was.
N
C
To
you,
okay,
okay,
I'll,
continue
to
run
that
report.
I'll
talk
about
a
few
other
things
before,
but
I'd
like
to
get
to
that
so
I
I,
one
of
the
things
I'm
really
focused
on
I,
appreciate
that
all
of
us
bring
a
very
wide
range
of
of
interest
and
focus
on
the
budget,
and
one
of
the
things
I'm
laser
focused
on
is
revenue.
C
I
think
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
are
covering
the
cost
of
many
city
services
and,
as
folks
know,
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
laser
focused
on
that
I
think
we're
over
subsidizing
is
parking,
and
so
there's
some
additional
Revenue
that
I'd
like
us
to
explore
for
this
budget
and
one
is
paid
parking
for
non-residents
at
City
facilities
City,
particularly
City
recreational
facilities.
So
if
we
look
at,
you
know
Robert
Crown,
if
we
look
at
Gibbs
Morrison,
we
look
at
you
know.
C
Some
of
these
facility
leave
the
center
and
my
ward.
There
are,
you
know,
estimates
you
know.
Maybe
a
thousand
parking
spots
split
between
all
of
those.
You
know
maybe
a
little
bit
less
than
a
thousand
parking
spots
between
all
of
those
locations.
We
know
along
the
lakefront,
we
added
paid
parking
for
non-residents
last
year
and
that
generated
roughly
three
hundred
thousand
dollars,
since
we've
done
that
it
was
an
eighty
thousand
dollar
investment
to
get
the
pay
boxes.
C
And
you
know
next
year
that's
going
to
be
just
pure
Revenue,
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
200
some
odd
thousand
dollars
revenue,
and
so,
if
we
do
this
for
the
nearly
thousand
parking
spots
at
City
facilities
which
those
facilities
are
running
year
round,
not
just
during
the
summer
like
the
lakefront
and
that
that
parking
rate,
which
is
three
dollars
during
the
summer
at
the
lakefront,
drops
down
to
50
cents
over
the
not
summer
over
the
fall
and
spring.
C
You
know
so
with
that.
Adding
this
paid
parking
for
non-residents
at
City
facilities
could
bring
in
potentially
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars.
So
I'd
love
staff
to
look
into
that
and
come
up
with
some
projections
and
I'd
love
to
work
that
into
the
budget
and
I
would
love
to
see
those
funds
bolster
our
investments
last
year
in
green
infrastructure,
and
so
that
could
be
a
few
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
going
toward
our
carp
goals
and
other
goals
and
not
on
the
backs
of
Evanston
residents.
So.
N
C
N
C
513
thousand
dollars
and
Beach
token
Revenue
last
year,
plus
three
hundred
thousand
and.
C
Yeah
513
000
this
year,
plus
three
hundred
thousand
in
parking
Revenue,
takes
us
pretty
much
right
back
to
roughly
where
we
were
in
Beach
Revenue.
C
So
we
didn't
really
experience
a
major
loss
in
Beatrice
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
that
that
was
a
separate
fact
separate
from
what
I'm
talking
about
here,
but
certainly
I
would
love
if
there's
some
interest
amongst
my
colleagues
that
we
can
give
our
parking
staff
direction
to
look
into
adding
pay
boxes
at
City
facilities
for
non-evinson
residents
and
bringing
back
Revenue
projections
for
that
those
folks
will
be
using
City
facilities.
C
We
can
capture
some
Revenue
to
help
cover
the
cost.
So
if
I
don't
know,
if
there's
any
way
that
we
can
just
let
Mike
and
Lucas
know
that
we're
interested
in
that,
so
they
you
know,
spend
some
spend
some
time
on
this
and
bring
it
back
to
us
before
we
pass
this
budget
I
think
that
would
be
great
for
revenue
and
I
know.
My
time
is
likely
running
up,
because
we've
only
got
five
minutes,
so
I'm
going
to
quickly
move
through
a
few
other
things.
C
You
know
so
that's
one
that
could
be
a
few
hundred
thousand
dollars
there.
You
know
we
are
the
economic
development
committee
and
the
environment
board
have
looked
at
a
plastic
bag
tax.
It's
somewhat,
you
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
conversation
with
our
business.
Community
I
think
there's
ways
that
we
can
improve
it.
C
But
again
that
could
be
a
significant
source
of
revenue
for
us
next
year
and
I
would
love
us
to
maybe
expedite
the
process
of
the
plastic
bag
tax
and
try
to
get
it
worked
in,
even
if
we
get
it
later
in
the
year.
That's
fine,
but
that's
Revenue,
that
we
shouldn't
leave
on
the
table.
C
It
hasn't
come
up
for
a
vote
yet,
but
allowing
hookah
bars
to
operate
within
the
City
of
Evanston
again
with
tobacco
sales
tax,
and
you
know
other
sales
taxes.
These
businesses
could
bring
in
again
significant
Revenue
to
the
city,
but
particularly
if
they
mix
a
restaurant
with
the
hookah
bar.
So
there
could
be
significant
sales
tax
revenue
and
in
fact,
I
have
business
owners
who
are
interested
in
opening
on
Howard
Street,
which
desperately
needs
more
attractions
for
folks
and.
C
Remarks
because
I
would
bring
my
remarks
to
a
close
here
very
quickly,
then.
Secondly,
we
increased
the
wheel
tax
last
year,
I
think
for
next
year
we
could
look
at
another
five
dollar
increase
of
the
will
tax
that
would
bring
in
250
000,
Plus
or
roughly
250
000
of
revenue
for
the
city.
If
we
increase
it
by
another
five
dollars.
That
would
begin
to
put
us
in
alignment
with
Chicago,
for
example.
C
So
we
would
not
be
charging
more
than
Chicago
and
that'd
be
again
more
money
that
we
could
invest
into
our
green
infrastructure.
The
last
increase
is
supporting
the
two
new
positions
in
in
cairo's
Department
and
then
lastly,
I'm
closing
out
here,
I
would
like
to
see
our
budget
ordinance
when
I
read
through
our
budget.
C
Audience
is
a
very
it's
not
I'd
like
to
see
it
go
into
a
bit
more
detail,
I'd
like
to
see
it
zoom
in
to
the
department
level
to
there
are,
you
know
various
fun
levels
there
and
it
gives
staff
instruction
to
stay
within
those
fun
levels,
but
I'd
like
us
to
zoom
in
a
little
closer
to
the
department
level.
C
So
there's
more
budget
controls
of
moving
money
between
departments
and
moving
money
between
different
business
units,
and
so
that
would
come
to
council
for
approval
before
we
make
those
transfers
and
I
think
we
can
do
that
with
efficiency
that
allows
staff
the
ability
to
move,
but
also
gives
this
body
and
the
taxpayers
more
oversight
and
control
over
spending.
So
that's
it
for.
R
C
Don't
understand
yeah,
you
know,
I,
understand,
I,
don't
think
so.
I
mean
I.
Think
our
beach
is
an
example.
You
know
we're
making.
You
know
900
to
you,
know
slightly
a
million
just
about
a
million
dollars
a
year
from
our
Lakefront
and
and
Beach
tokens,
and
last
year
with
Evanston
residents
not
having
to
pay
a
dime.
We
still
made
513
000,
and
so
you
know,
if
there's
something
special
there,
people
are
going
to
come,
people
are
used
to
paying
for
parking
and
so
charging
non-evinson
residents
at
these
facilities.
C
I
do
not
think
will
deter
people
and
we'll
charge
them
an
appropriate
rate
and
I
think
it'll
generate
they're,
not
paying
us.
You
know
property
taxes
and
other
taxes
that
support
those
facilities,
and
so
this
will
be
a
contribution
to
make
sure
that
we
can
provide
the
best
services
for
Evanston
residents
and
those
who
travel
here
to
use
our
okay.
R
What
I'd
like
to
see
for
Budget,
where
I
come
from
direction,
is
given
to
the
budget
and
I
know
I'm
new
I'm
going
to
say
that
until
I'm,
not
new
anymore,
which
may
never
be
never,
is
that
we
provide
Direction
as
a
council
for
the
budget
that
we
say
we
want
to
come
in
flat.
We
expect
certain
things,
not
it
come
to
us
and
then
we
have
to
deal
with
it.
R
S
S
S
Doing
that
means
also
fully
funding
our
our
public,
our
police
and
fire
pensions.
It
has
blown
up
now
to
over
probably
over
240
million.
At
this
point,
if
we
had
been
fully
funding
this
all
along
right
this
year,
we'd
be
paying
7
million
instead
of
about
21
million
dollars
in
our
in
our
Levy.
So
this
I
really
want
to
see
us
start
that
this
year
and
I
think
there
are
ways
to
do
that.
I
think
we
really
have
to
take
a
serious
look
at
our
unassigned
funds
last
year.
S
I
think
we
were
all
kind
of
shocked
when
and
again
this
is
speaking
a
little
bit
to
council
member
Harris's
idea
that
we
need
guard
rails
and
I've
talked
to
some.
You
know
Senior
Management
staff,
who
said
yeah,
we
really
don't
have
any
so
I
think
it
is
really
important
that
we
start
to
set
that
I.
S
Think
it'll
make
it
again
easier
for
everybody,
but
last
year,
when
April
rolled
around
you
know
we
found
out
that
there
had
been
overspending
to
the
tune
of
11.5
million
dollars,
which
kind
of
makes
this
process
look
just
kind
of
like
a
quaint.
You
know
activity
passing
the
budget
right
when
when
we
say
oh,
we
overspending
11.5.
Would
you
please
amend
that
budget?
That's
not
a
hundred
thousand
or
50
000
11.5
million,
but
when
that
happened,
we
also
found
out
that
we
had
a
surplus.
S
We
had
unobligated
unrestricted
unassigned
funds
of
31
million
dollars
and
that
wasn't
revealed
to
us
last
year
when
we
were
doing
the
budget,
so
we
could
have
fully
funded
police
and
fire.
Last
year
we
could
have.
We
had
31
million
dollars
in
unassigned
funds
and
that's
hugely
important.
The
year
before
that
we
had
16
and
the
year
before
that
we
had
10
and
I've
compared
this
to
other
Audits
and
other
cities.
We're
way
above
I
mean
that
was,
you
know,
exceeded
all
of
our
surrounding
cities.
S
So
I
would
say
that
we
should
take
a
hard
look
and
I
think
you
know.
Chief
polyp
is
also
going
to
speak
to
maybe
ways
that
we
can
do
that
fully
fund,
our
police
and
fire,
but
I
would
also
say
we
need
to
take
a
hard
look
at
those
unassigned
funds
right
now.
I
understand
that
we
have
a
14,
maybe
0.4
Surplus,
maybe
it's
more
I
know.
S
Last
year
after
you
know,
I've
fought
throughout
the
whole
budget
process
to
keep
our
Levy
flat
and
after
it
was
passed,
I
asked
you
know
what
did
we
get
for
our
transfer
tax,
for
example?
Nobody
knew
until
a
few
weeks
later
then.
Finally,
at
the
end
of
the
year,
you
know
we
budgeted
three
and
it
turned
out.
We
got
6.1
million.
Well,
we
didn't
know
that
we
had
that
extra
3
million,
while
we
were
trying
to
figure
out
the
budget
for
22..
So
this
is
really
essential
to
being
able
to
really
exercise.
S
I
think
we
really
need
to
start
fully
funding
now
our
police
and
fire
pension
and
I
think
we
also
need
to
at
all
costs
avoid
long-term
issuing
long-term
debt
at
high
interest
rates,
because,
right
now
what
we're
looking
at
is
double
or
even
maybe
triple
so
everything
and
I've
asked
also
for
a
while
for
prioritization
of
what
capital
Improvement
projects
do
we
absolutely
have
to
do.
I
still
haven't
receive
that
versus
what
can
we
put
off
and
I
still
want
to
see
that
for
our
next
session
on
Monday?
S
That
would
be
really
helpful,
because
I
think
that's
where
we're
going
to
cut.
We
should
cut
back
in
terms
of
2024
I'm,
sorry
2023
Bond,
issuance
at
a
high
rate,
and
you
know
I
just
want
to
mention
like
when
I
looked
at
some
of
the
like
s,
p
and
some
of
the
rating
agencies
I
mean
the
first
thing
that
they
point
out
in
terms
of
evanston's
weakness
and
its
budget
is,
you
know,
very
weak
debt
profile
with
poorly
funded
pensions.
This
is,
from
s
p,
on
substantially
underfunded.
S
A
credit
weakness
is
evanston's
large
pension
obligation
over
and
over
I.
Just
you
know.
This
is
what
it
says.
We
view
the
statutory
level
reflecting
a
90
funding
goal
by
2040
as
a
fairly
weak
funding
metric
that
defers
cost
into
the
future.
So
so
this
we
need
to
start
doing
this
now
for
serious
about
our
goals
and
also
on
the
beach.
S
The
dog
beach
I,
know,
that'll
bring
in
a
lot
of
money
also,
and
this
morning
I
was
there
at
Sunrise,
and
there
were
about
six
or
seven
people,
and
several
of
them
were
not
from
Evanston.
They
were
from
Skokie
and
other
places,
so
I
think
we're
gonna.
That
will
also
add
to
that
total
fund.
Thank
you.
A
Speaking
of
which
I
think
Chief
polyp
does
have
a
brief
presentation
to
share
is
that
right.
T
Good
evening
Mr
Mayor
clerk,
Mendoza
members
of
council
and
city
manager,
Luke
Stowe
I,
come
to
you
today
and
we're
asking
the
fire
department's
going
to
be
asking
for
seven
firefighter
paramedics
to
staff
our
third
ambulance
and
to
keep
our
fifth
engine
in
service
at
all
times.
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
Today,
show
you
a
presentation
and
why
this
ask
is
coming
today
and
a
funding
source
where
we
would
be
able
to
do
this
long
overdue
issue
here.
T
With
the
funding
source,
so
in
2019,
the
Evanston
fire
department
worked
with
some
folks
in
Northbrook
Chiefs
of
Northbrook,
who
told
us
about
this
new
funding
source
called
g-e-m-t.
T
This
is
ground
emergency
transport
service,
and
what
this
does
is
we
have
a
we
charge.
Fifteen
hundred
dollars
for
an
ambulance
call
whether
it's
a
BLS
call
or
an
ALS
call.
This
gemt
funding
source
was
state
was
adopted
by
the
state
of
Illinois
in
2019,
and
what
this
does
is
this
pays
the
difference
through
Medicare
and
mixed
Insurance
payers,
so
this
funding
source
they
they
take
everything
that
we
do
in
the
fire
service.
Our
rigs
are
our
stations,
our
employees
and
they
figure
what
it
would
actually
cost
to
run.
T
An
an
ambulance
call
based
on
how
we
respond
so
the
amount
that
we
charge
fifteen
hundred
dollars.
They
supplement
it
and
they
is
the
state
Medicare
mixed
pair.
They
supplement
the
rest,
which
is
another
twenty
five
hundred
dollars.
T
That
money
is
then
split
with
the
state,
so
we
keep
half,
they
keep
half
and,
as
you
can
see
on
the
on
the
graph,
we
started
this.
We
we
put
in
in
2019.
This
shows
the
money
that
comes
in
in
quarters,
and
this
is
the
money
that
we
keep
not
the
money
that
goes
to
the
state.
So
as
we
move
into
the
next
year,
we
are
on
Pace
to
to
receive
2.5
to
2.7
million
dollars
from
this
fund.
T
This
next
slide
shows
our
ambulance
calls
and
our
calls
for
service,
as
you
can
see
since
19,
since
the
80s
we've
had
two
ambulances.
Since
1986
we've
doubled
our
volume,
our
call
volume
in
the
in
the
EMS
world
and
we
have
not
added
a
person
to
our
department.
T
What
this
graph
or
what
this
chart
will
show
you
is,
as
of
today,
projected
2022
on
the
left
hand,
side
our
ambulance,
we
have
three
ambulances:
ambulance,
21,
ambulance,
22
and
ambulance.
23
23
is
our
jump
company.
This
is
what
we
are
asking
to
put
in
full
service
ambulance.
21
runs
3
600
calls
a
year,
ambulance,
22
3300
calls
a
year
compared
just
to
our
Mavis
neighbors,
we're
running
about
a
thousand
calls
more
than
than
our
Mavis
neighbors
per
ambulance.
T
Why
you
see
the
380
is
because,
when
our
ambulances
get
toned
out,
ambulance
21
goes
on
a
call
and
Loans
22
goes
on
a
call.
If
both
ambulances
are
out.
The
third
one
gets
called.
Our
members
are
very
good
at
going
to
the
hospital
taking
a
patient
going
to
the
hospital
picking
up
that
third
call
getting
back
in
service
without
doing
the
reports
without
getting
the
proper
supplies
that
they
need.
Now,
our
ambulances
are
stocked
to
do
this,
but
we
could
do
better.
T
We
could
do
much
better,
not
only
that
when
that
third
ambulance
was
out,
it
takes
that
fifth
engine
offline.
T
What
we
project
for
23,
if,
if
this
were
to
happen,
if
we
were
to
get
these
seven
members
as
our
ambulance
calls,
would
come
down
and
we
would
gain
ambulance
calls
on
ambulance
23,
which
would
split
the
work.
Okay,
and
it's
very
important
that
we
do
that,
as
as
the
numbers
show
we
average
about
eight,
almost
nine
calls
a
day
for
an
ambulance.
Now,
that's
just
if
you
take
our
ambulance,
calls
and
divide
it
by
365
days.
Usually
that
is
not
the
case.
There
are
some
days
our
ambulances
are
running.
T
T
This
will
also
affect
how
often
we
call
other
departments
in.
We
have
plenty
of
responses,
especially
our
working
fire
response,
where
we
automatically
call
skokian
for
a
battalion
chief,
a
truck
and
an
ambulance,
because
we
send
two
ambulances
to
a
working
fire,
one
for
our
members,
one
for
any
residents.
Now,
if
there's
multiple
residents,
those
ambulances
go
for
the
residence
first
and
then
we
call
another
department
in
for
to
be
on
standby
for
our
members.
T
T
Our
calls
are
at
the
point
where
it's
warranted,
and
this
is
what
the
cost
would
be
is
our
best
estimate
if
everyone,
if
we
were
to
hire
everyone
trained
like
the
the
the
top-
let's
say
the
top
seven
people
on
the
list
were
all
trained.
All
firefighters
paramedics,
the
very
firing
where
it
would
say
where
it
says
low
end,
that's
what
it
would
cost
at
the
very
bottom
566
000
middle
of
the
road.
If
we
had
to
train
half
of
them,
the
other
half
came
in
as
firefighter
paramedics.
T
We
would
be
at
642
thousand
and
if
we
had
to
Train
everybody
and
outfit
everybody
to
be
at
a
724
thousand
dollar
cost
I
do
really
believe
we
can
do
this
I
do
believe
we
we've
acquired
this
funding
source
I,
don't
think
it's
going
any
anywhere
for
a
long
time.
It's
a
state
legislated
source.
So
that's
the
presentation.
I
wanted
to
give
you
for
the
seven
firefighters
that
we
are
asking
for.
Q
Thank
you,
I'll
support.
The
chief
I
had
my
my
light
on
before
that.
Keith's
presentation
and
I
know
that
in
your
documentation
you
benchmarked
Evanston
against
eight
other
communities.
I
ran
those
numbers
and
with
two
ambulances
we
are
by
far
the
outlier
in
terms
of
ambulances
per
capita.
Our
ambulances
per
call,
even
with
three
we're
still
on
the
low
end,
so
I'm
definitely
supporting
this
one.
Thank
you,
sir
I
do
have
some
other
comments
and
questions.
How
much
time
do
I
have
here.
Q
A
half
minutes
four
and
a
half
minutes:
okay,
I'm
gonna
blast
through
them
comment
number
one:
I,
fully:
support:
adding
additional
staff
to
care;
Pratt's
Department
to
support
car
implementation;
I'd
love
to
do
more
I'd
love
to
spend
25
million
dollars
on
carp,
but
this
is
the
best
budget
by
far
the
greenest
budget.
By
far
since
you
know,
since
Evanston
first
committed
to
climate
action
in
2008,
we're
tripling
the
size
of
the
department.
So
that's
a
good
thing
next
comment.
This
actually
is
a
question
for
our
public
works
department.
Q
Does
this
budget
proposal
include
any
money
for
private
Sewer,
Lateral
Repair,
knowing
that
that
issue
is
still
pending
in
front
of
the
the
npw
committee.
U
Good
evening
mayor
members
of
the
city
council,
Dave
stomach
Deputy
city
manager.
In
that
memo
we
indicate
that
the
funding
source
would
be
the
75
000.
That's
allocated
in
the
sewer
fund
for
emergency
sewer
repairs
that
funding
gets
spent
on
cities.
That
remains
sometimes
it's
sometimes
we
exceed
it.
U
Sometimes
we
don't
spend
any
depends
if
the
city
has
the
collapsed
sewer
main
or
not,
but
we
would
overspend
it
if
these
came
in
and
it
would
go
into
the
sewer
Reserve
fund,
we
would
take
money
out
of
the
Civil
Reserve
we
retract
the
expenses,
and
then,
if
we
indicate
that
this
is
more
expensive,
we
would
program.
We
would
ask
for
a
sewer
rate
increase
in
future
years
to
meet
the
increase
in
spending
for
this
item.
Right.
U
F
H
Q
Q
H
Q
I
understand
that
deferred
maintenance
is
just
going
to
increase
costs
a
little
down
the
road,
but
if
those
aren't
going
to
be
our
costs,
that's
something
that
that
we
need
to
think
about,
and
you
know
I'm
wondering
if,
rather
than
three
million
dollars
in
new
windows,
there's
I
hate
to
say
it
a
Band-Aid
that
involves
some
caulk
that
will
at
least
get
us
through
the
next
few.
U
U
In
item
10,
we
talk
about
the
CIP
and
you'll
notice
that
any
other
projects
on
in
the
Civic
Center
are
not
shown
to
be
actually
completed
in
23.
At
this
point
in
time
per
staffs,
you
know
trying
to
understand
direction
from
the
city
council
on
other
discussions.
So
again,
that's
still
the
city
council
to
make
the
final
decision,
but
we
are
not
specifically
showing
those
projects
as
something
that
staff
is
moving
forward
with
in
the
proposed
23
budget.
Okay,.
Q
O
Yes-
and
there
is
a
way
to
caulk
the
windows
and
the
staff
estimates
a
budget
number
of
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
the
caulk.
The
thing
is,
you
might
caulk
the
windows
and
then
find
that
you
would
have
issues
with
them
still,
even
though
they're
cocked.
Q
Okay,
where
am
I
on
my
list?
Fountain
Square-
maybe
that's
another
SP-10
item,
so
I'll
work.
We
can
do
that.
It's
be
here
to
see
what
the
presentation
says,
but
Fountain
Square.
We
are.
Q
Okay:
let's
do
that
I
have
another
question
that
is
not
Capital.
Improvement
related,
so
I'll
hold
my
CIP
questions
until
we
see
the
presentation,
but
before
we
get
there,
we
are
anticipating
at
some
point
that
Northwestern
University
will
put
in
a
very
expensive
new
stadium
and
we
are
anticipating
an
unknown
amount
of
a
permit
Revenue.
Perhaps
they
don't
want
to
get
too
far
out
of
myself.
Q
This
money
is
probably
to
not
yet
definitive
enough
to
budget
for
so
I'm,
not
suggesting
we
budget
for
that
money,
but
let's
maybe
consider
that
potential
windfall
as
one
funding
source
that
we
could
direct
towards
our
pension
obligations
without
having
to
increase
taxes
or
fees.
You
know
we
could
potential
luck
of
that
is
windfall
revenue
and
and
start
to
pay
some
bills
that
need
to
be
paid.
So
I
have
other
questions
on
cfp
about
all
of
them.
For
the
presentation.
O
So
as
background,
we
introduced
the
CIP
at
the
September
19th
meeting
in
prior
to
the
budget
being
posted
to
allow
for
a
longer
discussion
period
and
on
October
17th.
We
did
a
presentation
discussing
primarily
different
characteristics
about
projects
that
staff
member
or
the
city
council
requested
of
staff
to
provide
tonight,
there's
some
updates
and
Corrections
in
the
city
CIP,
as
well
as
information
that
was
requested
in
previous
presentations.
O
So
the
first
thing
I
will
note
is
there
are
three
items
that
where
we
are
updating
or
correcting
the
CIP
based
on
revised
information,
we
had
indicated
funding
for
a
dog
park,
installation
we're
just
retitling
that
so
that
we
could
send
that
money
towards
any
funding
needed
at
the
dog
beach.
Second,
the
Twigs
Park
Skate
Park.
We
did
receive
a
four
hundred
thousand
dollar
Grant,
which
was
not
represented
in
the
CIP
PRI.
The
2023
proposed
CIP.
O
We
are
adding
that
in,
but
because
construction
inflation
has
been
so
high,
we
are
recommending
that
we
just
add
it
and
we
don't
reduce
the
other
funding
sources
at
this
time.
That
project
is
actually
planned
to
go
out
to
bid
over
the
winter.
We
are
first
pre-qualifying
contractors
through
a
process.
That's
going
to
start
pretty
soon,
but
the
work
that's
been
done
to
determine
a
bid
price.
O
The
consultant
has
done
the
drive,
so
it
is
easier
now
to
just
let
the
project
bid
and
find
out
what
the
actual
price
is
on
the
market
than
to
try
to
modify
it
and
then
the
third
one
is
related
to
the
fire
department
and
the
gemt
funding.
There's
a
substantial
need
to
replace
a
lot
of
SCBA
and
safety
equipment
for
the
fire
department,
which
of
which
440
thousand
dollars
would
be
budgeted
this
year
and
funded
from
the
GMT.
O
One
of
the
questions
that
was
asked
was
related
to
we
had
shown.
There
are
17
projects
that
are
considered
shovel,
ready
and
I'm
using
the
term
shovel
ready,
because
this
is
a
term
that
is
frequently
used
by
federal
and
state
governments
when
they
are
sending
out
infrastructure
money.
So
those
are
projects
that
are
deemed
to
be
ready
to
bid
within
just
a
couple
of
months
with
relatively
little
efforts
so
that
they
can
go
right
into
Construction
in
a
short
time
after
the
funds
are
released.
O
So
we
have
designated
17
shovel
ready
projects
in
the
2023
CIP
at
this
time.
By
the
time
we
get
to
the
end
of
winter,
there
will
be
more
but
they're
not
already
yet
and
of
those
11
of
the
projects
do
have
grant
funding
associated
with
them.
There
is
more
detailed
information
and
one
of
the
attachments
to
the
memos
showing
exactly
which
project
of
that
you
can
see
that
my
eyes
are
not
great.
O
On
13
grants
have
been
received,
two
loans
and
one
litigation
that
we
would
get
money
reimbursed
through
litigation
for
the
repairs
at
Fountain
Square
of
the
projects
that
are
not
shovel
ready
but
have
actually
already
received
grants.
There
are
11
projects
in
that
situation,
having
received
13
grants,
so
you
can
see
that
quite
a
lot
of
our
big
projects.
We
do
actually
receive
grant
money
for
we're
also
requested
to
identify
projects
that
we
were
developing
in
anticipation
applying
for
Grants
and
again.
That
detailed
list
is
included
in
the
attachment
to
the
memo.
O
However,
of
that
there
are
13
projects
of
which
we've
identified,
approximately
nine
grant
funding
opportunities.
Some
of
them
use
the
same
things
like
iepa
State,
revolving
loan
funds
or
motor
fuel
tax
funds
is
another
one
that
applies
to
a
number
of
different
projects,
but
if
we,
those
projects
are
due
to
go
into
construction
over
a
variety
of
years.
But
if
we
look
over
the
next
five
years,
it's
approximately
50
to
80
million
dollars
worth
of
grants
that
we
plan
to
apply
for
or
utilize.
O
We
are
also
asked
to
provide
a
chart
showing
specifically
General
obligation,
bonds
and
which
projects
are
using
general
obligation
bonds.
We
show
not
just
2023
General
obligation
Bonds
in
that
chart,
but
2022
General
obligation,
bonds
per
our
earlier
discussion.
We
have
not
yet
issued
the
2022
Geo
bonds,
however,
staff
budgets
them
as
if
we
have
because
we've
staff
has
been
directed
that
we
are
committed
to
to
funding
those
items.
However,
since
the
bonds
are
not
issued,
it
is
possible
to
modify
the
Geo
bond
issue
at
the
time
whenever
the
Geo
bond
issue
does
occur.
O
Normally
it
occurs
in
mid-summer
or
late
summer.
We
actually
modify
the
Geo
bond
issue
every
year
to
decrease
it
to
reflect
what
is
actually
likely
to
be
built.
We
started
to
provide
that
list.
We
had
a
number
of
things
then
happen
which
changed
the
situation,
so
we
are
not.
We
haven't
really
done
that
list,
but
whenever
the
bond
issues
are
issued
finally
truly
issued,
we
usually
take
a
look
at
where
we
are
with
our
spending
and
also
the
status
of
the
projects
to
decrease
them
wherever
possible.
O
But
these
are
the
projects
which
have
a
significant
Revenue
source
that
is
not
2022
or
2023
General
obligation,
bonds.
We've
also
got
two
projects
where
we
have
basically
gotten
under
contract
and
committed
to
using
2023
funds
that
includes
the
police,
fire
elevator
modifications
which
are
somewhat
of
an
emergency
project
and
are
already
underway
and
as
well
as
the
sorry
I'm
blinking
for
a
minute.
The
street
light
pole
replacement.
We
entered
into
a
10-year
contract
that
has
a
minimum
purchase
requirement.
O
Well,
we
had
actually
proposed
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
based
on
the
need
that
we
were
seeing
in
the
last
few
years
to
repair
the
street
lights
where
the
polls
are
failing
and
falling
over,
our
minimum
purchase
would
be
120
000,
so
that
could
be
reduced.
The
consequence
would
actually
just
be.
We
would
have
street
light
poles
that
aren't
working
properly
and
finally,
oops.
O
Projects
that
address
a
life
safety
issue,
we
identified
four
projects
at
the
last
meeting,
but
there's
also
some
projects
that
staff
considers
to
be
critical
to
being
able
to
run
our
Emergency
Operations
like
snow
removal
and
that
those
projects
are
sewn
there.
So
when
you
look
at
the
set
aside,
2022
bonds
for
the
moment,
because
some
aren't
being
moved
forward
and
those
are
bonds
that
have
not
yet
been
committed
to
a
contract,
we
have
spent
other
bonds
which
are
under
contract.
O
O
But
by
the
time
we
sell
the
bonds
we
reduce
it
to
10
million
dollars,
so
our
bond
issues
are
fairly
consistent
and
so
I
would
just
indicate
that
if
you
only
were
to
fund
these
three
sets
of
items
that
that
would
already
be
at
the
10
million
dollar
Bond
Mark,
there
are
actually
several
other
contracts
that
or
projects
that
staff
would
recommend.
Moving
forward
with
that
are
approximately
two
million
dollars
additional
which
I'm
happy
to
discuss,
but
that
is
the
situation
where
we're
at
so.
O
O
We
are
not
able
to
do
detailed
cost
estimates
most
of
the
time,
particularly
at
the
beginning
of
a
project.
So
we
make
our
best
estimate
the
market
value
of
the
the
final
design
that
is
Bid
by
the
contractors
decides
how
accurate
we
are.
I
can
tell
you
that.
Probably
every
estimate
we
make
is
off
by
at
least
a
few
dollars.
That
is
just
a
given.
O
It
is
very
difficult
to
predict
costs
three
years
in
advance
and
then
finally,
I
would
say
that,
as
I
said
before,
staff
actually
would
like
to
reduce
the
parks
and
Facilities
CIP
from
what
was
originally
published
in
the
budget,
because
we
do
not
have
the
ability
on
staff
to
execute
all
those
projects
and
manage
them.
So
we
are
totally
fine
and
we
would
encourage
you
to
consider
a
reduction
in
those
two
categories.
I
do
have
recommendations
about
what
I
would
move
forward
if
you
are
interested
but
they're
just
recommendations
that
we're
happy
to
comply
with.
V
I'd
like
to
hear
Laura
Biggs
suggestions.
First.
O
O
The
first
thing
I
would
recommend
funding
is
if
we
scroll
down
to
sustainability,
is
to
fund
all
the
sustainability
projects
simply
because
most
of
those
projects
are
the
concept,
planning
or
early
studies
that
are
needed
to
move
the
program
forward
in
future
years,
and
if
we
want
to
continue
growing
carp,
I
think
these
projects
are
really
critical
to
fund
next
I
would
suggest
if
you
go
back
to
Transportation,
actually
traffic
calming
bicycle
pedestrian
improvements,
safety
improvements.
This
item
is
225
thousand
dollars.
O
However,
it
pays
for
all
of
the
traffic
calming
speed,
humps
crosswalks
bike,
racks,
spotlighting,
Improvement
requests
like
I'm
at
this
crosswalk
and
I
feel
like
it's
not
safe
to
cross,
because
lighting
isn't
good
enough
and
additional
pavement
markings
all
of
those
things
which
are
a
lot
of
the
interaction
that
we
actually
have
with
council
members
on
a
regular
basis
tend
to
be
funded
out
of
this
line
item.
So
these
are
very
personal
improvements
to
the
residents
they
affect.
O
O
O
However,
I
do
think
we
should
consider
putting
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
pay
for
the
consulting
services
to
design
that
project,
because
there
are
a
number
of
Building
Systems
at
the
service
center
that
are
failing
so
I'm,
not
saying
that
we
know
exactly
what
that
project
is
I'm,
saying
that
HVAC
structural
and
electrical
systems
are
all
in
very
bad
condition,
and
we
should
move
forward
as
soon
as
the
council
feels
they
have
enough.
Information
on
that.
I
would
also
say
on
the
roof.
O
Replacements
at
least
two
of
those
buildings
have
active
roof
leaks
going
on
I
would
recommend
we
move
forward
with
those
roof
replacement
projects.
All
of
them
are
in
bad
condition.
The
beach
houses,
even
if
they
don't
have
active
roof
leaks,
some
have
missing
shingles,
they're,
old
and
haven't
and
they're
at
the
end
of
their
useful
life
and
then
the
fine.
So
all
together,
those
two
numbers
are
550
000
and
then
the
final
thing
is
in
parks.
O
That
is
something
that
is
acceptable
in
terms
of
Public
Safety,
but
isn't
great,
so
I
would
recommend
the
wall
repair
at
two
hundred
thousand
dollars.
I
would
recommend
we
move
forward
with
Beck
Park.
We
have
already
funded
concept
planning.
The
constituency
has
waited
quite
a
long
time
for
this
park
to
move
forward
with
public
engagement
that
happens
periodically,
but
not
consistently.
O
Now
that
we
have
a
consultant
they're
going
to
complete
the
public
engagement
and
we
had
hoped
to
move
into
con
into
contract
Document
Preparation
next
year,
so
the
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
is
to
help
pay
for
the
design
services
for
that
consultant,
and
then
the
James
Park
pathway
reconstruction
at
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
is.
O
There
is
a
section
of
the
pathway,
the
walking
pathway
at
the
South
End
of
the
park
along
Mulford
next
to
the
ball
diamonds,
where
the
pathway
acts
as
the
sidewalk
along
Wolford,
and
that
pathway
is
failed
enough,
that
it
is
not
traversable
by
somebody
with
mobility
issues.
So
it's
not
the
whole
pathway.
The
pathway
is
expensive
because
we
have
to
reconstruct
it.
O
The
soil
isn't
right,
but
I
would
recommend
for
Ada
and
reasons
and
because
it
is
right
next
to
the
ball
diamonds,
and
it
is
a
long
Milford
where
there
are
street
parking
that
we
move
forward.
With
that
section
of
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
pathway,
reconstruction,
I
will
say
we
have
a
number
of
other
parks
that
we
moved
into
concept
planning.
We
are
struggling
to
schedule
all
the
public
engagement
meetings,
because
council
members
and
other
critical
decision
makers
have
a
lot
on
their
calendar
because
of
that
it's
entirely
possible.
O
V
O
H
V
Another
question
about
Fountain
Square:
yes,
so
if
we
delay
that
even
the
so
technically
it's
shovel
ready,
we
know
what
has
to
be
done.
Is
there
any
potential
drawback,
because
we
know
what
needs
to
be
repaired,
doing
it
in
2020,
2024
versus
2023.
O
There
are
two
drawbacks,
but
these
are
hard
choices.
The
first
is
that
we
are
in
a
litigation
with
the
contractor
and
I
really
don't
want
to
talk
about
it
too
much
because
of
that,
but
if
we
had
an
actual
price
for
the
the
fix
from
a
bid,
that
would
be
helpful
in
our
case
to
make
sure
that,
whatever
the
final
resolution,
the
city's
costs
are
covered.
O
The
second
thing
is
that
it
will
only
get
more
expensive,
so
we
received
an
initial
price
that
was
less
than
what's
shown
in
the
budget
here,
which
I
escalated
because
of
construction
inflation,
which
has
not
slowed
down
expected
to
be
higher
in
2024.
But
that
is
true
of
pretty
much
all
the
projects.
V
N
W
W
I,
don't
know
I
I
need
to
see
what
what
would
a
slow
ramp
up
look
like
and
compared
to
a
jump
in
right
away.
For
you
know,
so
you
know
the
Glide
path
that
we
need.
So,
for
example,
I
you
know,
I
would
suggest
I'd
rather
have
us
put
more
money
into
the
pension
than
start
working
towards
bringing
our
fund
balance
up
from
the
16.6
percent
up
to
the
20
I.
W
If,
if
we're,
if
we
need
to
find
a
million
1.6
million
for
this
year's
pension
fund,
we
could
hold
off
an
ear
on
starting
to
bring
up
our
fund
balance.
W
I
had
a
I
had
a
question
about
the
the
the
newly
revised
budget
shows
us
removing
the
grants
officer
position
from
the
budget
and
I
guess
I
sort
of
expected
that
that
person
would
pay
for
him
or
herself
I,
don't
know.
If
anybody
wants
to
address
that
yeah.
X
Good
evening,
mayor
city,
council,
clerk
Mendoza
to
answer
the
question
after
discussion
with
staff
and
also
our
lobbyists,
we
felt
it
was
best
to
instead
of
having
us
an
FTE
grants,
officer
position
instead
contract
out
as
needed
basis
for
grant
writing
purposes
which
makes
sense
too,
because
it
in
certain
cases,
whether
it's
a
brownfields
grant
or
a
cyber
security
Grant
or
Health
and
Human
Services
Grant.
X
We
want
to
work
with
people
who
are
subject
matter
experts,
so
we
felt
it
was
better
to
withdraw
the
grants,
officer
position
and
said
contract
as
needed
with
grant
writers.
W
And
since
you
mentioned
the
lobbyist,
I
did
kind
of
wonder
about
our
lobbyist
I
thought.
When
we
agreed
to
hire
the
lobbyists,
we
were
going
to
get
quarterly
reports
or
something
about
what
what
we
were
learning
from
our
lobbyists.
X
I'll
be
happy
to
check
with
drexwood
and
check
with
them
on
the
quarter.
Reports.
W
W
Okay,
I
I
share
with
council
member
new
Smith
some
concerns
about
putting
a
lot
of
money
into
the
Civic
Center,
since
we
really
don't
know
what
we're
about
to
do
with
that
and
I'm
glad
to
have
further
direction
from
from
Lara
about
what
to
do
with
our
Capital
Improvements
plan.
So
I'll
take
another
look
at
that.
That's
it
for
right
now,.
W
A
One
who
is
not
yet
spoken
is
asking
to
speak,
so
we
go
to
council
member
nusma
with
one
minute
left.
S
So,
just
to
respond
to
councilmember
Ravel,
it's
about
4.5
million
that
we
would
have
to
come
up
with
and
again
I
ask
that
we
look
at
our
projected
balance
for
our
unassigned
funds.
Again
last
year
was
31
million
and
we
weren't
aware
of
that
when
we
were
doing
our
budget
so
I
know
we're
saying
it's
14
points
something
but
I've
asked
for
projected
expectations,
for
example
on
property
transfer
taxes
in
other
areas,
where
we
have
over
the
years
been
ending
up
with
very
large
surpluses,
so
I
think
we
should
look
at
that.
S
I
think
we
really
can.
Last
year
we
could
have
fun
fully
funded,
we
could
have.
We
could
have
covered
it
with
our
unassigned
fun
balance,
so
so
I
just
want
to
give
you
that
that
is
4.5
million
and
I
think
I
just
used.
My
I
think
one
more.
Let's
see.
S
Okay,
I
guess:
that's
it
and
again,
so
if
we
can,
if
I
can
get
those
or
if
we
can
get
those
for
next
time,
the
projection
on
what
that
will
be
by
your
by
yours
and
I
realize
it's
not
going
to
be.
You
know
exact,
but
I
think
it
would
be
really
helpful
for
us
to
have
those
numbers.
Y
Yeah
just
a
couple
quick
questions:
how
are
we
so
I
understand?
City
managers,
though,
that
we
removed
the
budgeted
position
for
the
grant
writer,
but
contractors
aren't
free,
so
I
just
thought
about
that.
How
are
we
going
to
pay
for
them.
X
Yeah
Dave
and
I
have
talked
about
funding
it
out
of
CMO
budget
yeah
for
contingency,
so
we're
estimating,
maybe
in
the
neighborhood
of
thirty
thousand
dollars
per
year,
could
be
a
little
higher
than
that.
But
that's
kind
of
where
we're
what.
Y
Y
I
wanted
to
thank
Laura
for
bringing
up
Vex
Park
Expansion
Project
I
was
going
to
bring
that
up.
I
saw
it
wasn't
highlighted
in
any
of
the
wonderful
colors.
So
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up
because
they
have
I
think
that's
been
a
discussion
that
at
least
goes
back
to
the
water
treatment
facility.
Y
Probably
before
that
was
even
construction
even
started,
I
think
discussions
about
Beck,
Park
expansion
started
so
that
neighborhood
over
there
has
been
waiting
for
a
while,
so
so
I
you
know
would
also
like
to
see
that
that
that
added
so
to
this
budget
and
then
to
councilmember
Reed's
point
about
parking
fees
at
community.
Y
Centers
I'd
like
to
see
some
information,
as
as
he
suggested
it
described
it,
but
also
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
to
do
Dynamic
parking
where
it
may
not
be
fees
every
day,
but
during
peak
hours,
especially
at
at
Robert
Crown
and
Levy
Center.
Y
It
may
make
sense
to
charge
during
those
peak
hours
and
which
I
think
is
is
part
of
the
dynamic
parking
which
could
be
considered
a
dynamic
parking
strategy.
So
please
bring
the
information
back
as
councilman
Reed
described,
but
also,
if
we
weren't,
if
we
didn't
do
it
every
day
all
day,
what
would
it
look
like
to
do
it
during
those
peak
hours
and
peak
days?
That's
all.
Thank
you.
A
C
C
Thank
you,
so
thank
you.
Councilmember
I,
I
I
wanted
to
I'll.
Be
brief.
Still
I
wanted
to
check
on
a
few
things.
I
looked
at
the
budget,
I,
don't
see
the
refugee
resettlement
fund
moving
forward,
and
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that
fifty
thousand
dollars
is
included
in
this
budget
for
the
Human
Services
fund.
C
So
is
it
someone
who
can
answer
that.
Z
C
H
H
F
C
Like
to
amend
the
budget
to
include
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
the
refugee
fund
for
2023,
the
50
000
contribution.
A
So
it
needs
to
be
in
writing.
In
that
case,.
C
Okay,
I'm
gonna
hold
off
on
that
for
a
second.
If
I
can
get
a
folks
where
folks
leading
okay
folks
are
okay
with
it,
so
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
make
that
motion
a
second
and
put
it
in
writing.
Secondly,
our
gas
tax.
So
we
we
are
looking
at
our
Revenue.
F
C
Expecting
about
a
two
hundred
thousand
dollar
dip
in
the
gas
tax,
I
think
if
we
raised
our
our
Mo
in
by
gas
tax
or
motor
fuel
tax.
If
we
raised
our
motor
fuel
tax
by
one
penny,
we
could
realize
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
Revenue.
That
would
mean
right
now
we
charge
three
cents
per
gallon
that
takes
up
to
four
cents
per
gallon
for
comparison,
Chicago
charges,
eight
cents
per
gallon,
so
we'd
still
be
much
lower
than
you
know,
one
of
our
biggest
neighbors
and
so
again,
A
Penny
would
would
bring
in
200
000.
C
C
If
there's
any
interest
in
that,
it
would
be
a
penny.
The
motor
fuel
tax
and
I'd
love
for
staff
to
come
back
and
bring
us
some
some
information
on
that,
but
I
think
we
should
consider
it
I
also
think
again,
two
hundred
thousand
dollars,
if
we
just
250
000,
if
we
increase
the
will
tax
by
five
dollars,
I'd
like
staff,
to
bring
that
back
as
a
proposal
and
then
and
then.
C
Lastly,
on
the
revenue
front,
you
know
I
think
you
know
just
those
those
few
proposals
there
would,
you
know,
bring
almost
a
little
bit
less.
You
know
700
and
some
odd
thousand
dollars,
almost
a
million.
C
A
P
C
Yeah,
that's
all
I
I
want
to
make
sure
they're,
given
Direction
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
using
staff's
time
efficiently,
particularly
since
we're
here
in
the
last
crunch.
That's
why
I
wanted
a
vote
on
these
items
just
to
make
clear
that
there's
some
interest
in
in
items
that
that
that's
all
I'm
interested
in
so
I'm
interested
in
a
five
dollar
increase
in
the
will
tax,
a
one
cent
increase
in
the
motor
field
tax
and
the
paid
parking
for
non-residents
at
City
facilities,
I
think
between
those
proposals.
C
There
that's
about
a
million
dollars
of
new
Revenue
that
we
could
bring
in
that
is
in
a
green
way.
It's
it's
green
Revenue,
because
it's
charging
for
motor
fuel,
which
we
want
to
encourage
people
to
move
away
from
it's
charging
for
the
wheel
tax.
We
want
more
people,
riding
bikes
and
using
Alternative
forms
of
transportation,
and
then
it's
charging
for
parking
at
city,
city
facilities
for
non-evington
residents
and
then
lastly,
I'll
close
out
here.
There
are
two
things:
unless.
C
R
R
A
C
C
A
Council
member
Harris,
with
three
minutes
and
50
seconds
left.
R
Okay,
thank
you,
so
I
just
want
to
be
clear
with
some
of
the
things
that
you
said.
We're
talking
about
Taxation
and
I
had
three
very
candid
people
who
come
to
every
single
meeting
and
I
appreciate
that
they
come
and
they
come
to
other
Ward
meetings
and
we
talked
about
working
on
this
tax,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
heard
you
talk
about
a
wheel
tax,
a
gas
tax,
a
parking
and
a
bag
tax.
R
So
we're
back
to
back
to
taxing
our
community
members
and
while
it's
green,
it's
disenfranchising
some
of
the
people
that
we
need
to
protect.
So
if
we're
talking
about
a
gas,
many
people
can't
afford
electric
cars
right
now.
If
we're
talking
about
bags
you're
talking
about
people
who
in
communities
probably
walk
or
take
the
bus
and
may
not
have
the
space
to
have
all
these
extra
bags.
So
I
just
want
us
to
be
careful
that
we're
gonna
work
on
the
tax
here,
but
then
we're
going
to
tax
them
over
here.
C
Yeah
I
I
appreciate
that
thought.
You
know
that's
why
I'm
laser
focused
on
you
know,
particularly
with
the
transportation
funds
the
motor
fuel
tax,
particularly
with
the
will
tax
you
know,
I
was
very
I,
still
am
very
supportive
of
using
the
money
for
expanding
the
two
positions
in
care.
C
Pratt's,
Department
I
think
that's
critical,
but
you
know
what
I
would
have
proposed
outside
of
that
I
really
like
the
proposal,
but
I
would
like
to
see
us
make
more
investments
in
making
green
modes
of
transportation
more
affordable,
the
residents
so
I
think
we
can.
You
know
tax
motor
fuel
at
one
penny
per
gallon
more
and
realize
a
lot
of
money.
We
can
tax
plastic
bags
which
we
need
to
move
away.
C
And
then
you
mentioned
the
the
will.
Tax
again
are
we
have
a
100
million
dollar
unfunded
infrastructure
liability
in
the
the
vast.
A
huge
portion
of
that
is
our
transportation
infrastructure
and
and
again
so
we
need
to
really
start
getting
folks
to
pay
the
fare,
the
correct
share
to
cover
that
infrastructure
and
then,
lastly,
the
paid
parking
this
would
be
for
non-evenson
residents
at
City
facilities
who
aren't
contributing
to
our
tax
base.
C
The
way
Evanston
residents
are,
but
are
still
using
our
study
facilities
enjoying
the
amenities
that
we
offer
and
I
think
they
also
need
to
chip
in
their
fair
share
for
the
enjoyment
of
those
amenities.
And
that's
you
know
this
tax
would
only
impact
that
parking.
C
Revenue
would
only
impact
those
folks,
so
I'll
hold
there
and
then
I
also
proposed
things
like
you
know,
adding
a
hookah
bar
allowing
that
and
under
our
code,
which
again
would
not
be
aggressive
in
any
means,
it
would
allow
a
new
business
and
these
businesses
could
bring
in
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
of
of
of
cigarette
tax
or
tobacco
tax
revenue
of
other
sources
of
revenue
similar
to
other
businesses,
and
so
there's
good
opportunities
here.
A
Thank
you
very
much
now
seeing
that
no
one
else,
so
so
councilmember
Kelly
who's,
good.
Yes,
there's
the
president
appears
to
have
been
set
and
then
demolished
and
then
said
again
go
ahead.
S
So
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
this
year,
something
actually
quite
good
happen
right
with
our
budget
and
I.
Think
you
know
we
significantly
reduced
our
our
debt
and
I
think
we
should.
You
know
kudos
to
staff
and
to
this
Council.
We
we
for
the
first
time
in
many
many
years
we
kept
the
levy
flat
and
we
significantly
reduced
our
debt.
So
I
just
really
want
to
continue
in
that
same
direction
and
I.
Don't
know
you
know
in
terms
of
how
much
debt
will
roll
off
next
year
and
I
apologize.
S
S
A
C
Happy
to
make
that
motion
I
move
that
we
table
the
discussed
items
until
our
Network.
What's
until
the
November
14th
meeting
for
introduction.
Second,.
A
C
Yeah
very
quickly,
I
I,
just
I,
want
to
reiterate
and
see
if
there's
some
kind
of
direction
from
the
council,
I
would
like
to
see
our
budget
ordinance.
You
know
on
that
exhibit
a
that
lists.
All
of
the
funds
go
down
to
the
Department
level,
and
so
there's
stronger
budget
controls.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
when
this
comes
back
that,
maybe
that's
that's
included
there,
and
so
is
their
interest
from
the
council.
A
I,
don't
think
this
is
an
order
and
a
motion
to
table,
but
I'm
sure
that
that
interest
can
be
expressed
very
very
quickly,
even
perhaps
by
email
tonight
or
tomorrow
morning,
to
the
city,
manager
and
CFO.
So
they
have
time
to
react
to
it.
N
The
fund,
you
will
see
each
different
divisions
within
that,
like
suppose,
fire
department,
which
might
have
three
different
business
units
within
that
three
different
divisions:
police
department.
They
have
seven
or
eight
different
divisions
within
that.
So
it's
a
proposed
budget
document.
You
would
see
each
detail
and
then
within
each
you
would
see
each
line,
item
of
expense
and
revenue
I'm.
A
Gonna
have
to
bring
this
to
a
close.
This
is
not
the
the
motion
to
force
is
a
motion
to
table,
but
that's
the
productive
discussion
that
can
go
on
bilaterally
after
this
meeting.
A
Will
the
clerk
please
take
the
role
on
the
motion
to
table
these
items.
Council.
A
A
A
C
Yes,
the
eighth
Ward
award
meeting
is
currently
scheduled
for
the
last
Saturday.
F
H
H
A
That
concludes
call
of
the
awards.
Councilmember
newsman
is
recognized
to
make
a
motion.
Q
Pursuant
to
five
Illinois
compiled
statutes,
120
slash
two
I
move
that
the
city
council
convened
into
executive
session
to
discuss
agenda
items
regarding
Collective
negotiation,
litigation
and
property.
These
agenda
items
are
permitted
subjects
to
be
considered
an
executive
session
and
our
enumerated
exceptions
under
the
open
meetings
act.
These
exceptions
are
five
ilcs
wanted,
120,
2
c
2,
5,
6
and
11.