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B
A
All
right
great,
thank
you
and
we
have
quorum
and
we
have
all
nine
Evanston,
City
Council
members
here
tonight,
so
welcome
everybody
to
the
Monday
October
28th,
2019,
Evanston,
City,
Council,
meeting
I
know,
there's
been
passionate
debate
and
democracy
at
work
earlier
today
in
the
Planning
and
Development
Committee,
and
it's
a
it's
a
late
night
and
I
know
it's
about
five
of
nine
right
now.
This
meeting
is
slightly
different
because
we
have
several
public
hearings
that
have
to
take
place
before
we
get
to
public
comment.
A
A
Private
early
education
elementary
school
located
at
425,
Dempster,
Street,
Evanston,
Illinois,
602,
o1
known
as
the
school
facility
and
three
funds,
certain
working
capital,
if
determined
to
be
in
the
best
interest
of
the
corporation
and
for
pay
certain
costs
incurred
in
connection
with
the
issuance
of
the
bonds
and
the
refunding
of
prior
bonds.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
we
have
a
quorum
tonight.
A
C
C
Before
the
hearing
we
all
have
Ward
meetings,
most
have
email
access
and
I
receive
postcards
twice
this
year
about
events
to
come,
plus,
there's
plenty
of
news
media
here
in
Evanston
to
get
the
word
out.
So
why
is
there
nobody
signed
up
for
a
tougher
hearing
as
same
as
it
was
last
year
for
a
50
million
dollar
bond
for
Robert
crown
I'd
like
to
address
now
the
close
to
eight
million
dollar
in
bonds
to
a
non-profit,
Montessori
School
you
are
proposing.
Does
this
school
pay
any
money
to
Evanston
funds?
I'm,
not
sure
we
have?
C
We
already
have
a
hundred
and
ninety
million
dollar
debt
from
bonds
with
debt
service
to
go
up
from
11
million
to
13.5
million.
With
a
proposed
tax
increase
of
ten
point
nine
percent,
it
appears
our
city
is
being
financed
in
a
large
part
from
bonds
and
expected
to
increase
our
bond
debt
bond
debt,
sorry
by
10
million
per
year.
How,
and
when
will
we
reach
the
point
where
we
can
start
paying
down
our
debt?
When
will
we
ever
have
a
budget
surplus?
We
need
to
be
paying
more
into
pensions,
not
adding
more
to
our
debt.
A
You
Ray
and
to
raise
questions
are
so
folks.
You
know
when
Mike
finishes:
Mike
Masako
comes
up,
I'm
gonna
ask
Kadesh
to
get
up
and
just
answer
some
basic
questions.
Put
this
in
layman's
terms,
as
opposed
to
what
I
just
read
to
everybody
which,
by
statute
I,
have
to
read
all
of
that
at
the
beginning
of
the
tephra
meeting.
Welcome
Mike
thank.
D
So
it's
a
pretty
elite
school,
mostly
white
population,
as
I
understand
it,
a
few
grants
given
out
to
the
minority
population
every
so
often,
but
why
are
we
giving
eight
million
dollars
into
a
private
school
as
a
loan
when
we
can't
find
you
know
any
money
to
give
to
a
school
where
it's
needed
in
the
fifth
Ward
fifth
Ward
has
been
looking
for
a
new
school
forever.
As
long
as
I
can
remember,
we
can't
find
any
money
for
that.
D
A
You
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Mike
hit
test.
Can
you
come
on
up
and
introduce
yourself
to
everybody?
So
everybody
knows
your
role
here
in
the
government,
and
you
know
talk
to
us
about
these
types
of
bonds.
What's
going
on,
specifically,
is
the
city
incurring
any
liability?
Is
the
city
making
any
guarantee
and
have
we
done
this
before
and
how
does
this
work.
E
Members
of
the
City
Council,
it
is
this
a
chief
financial
officer
for
the
city
of
Evanston.
Yes,
the
caramely
is
a
not-for-profit
501,
C
3
corporations,
city
of
Evanston,
has
done
similar
financing
for
the
care
of
early
I
think
twice
before
once
in
20:14
and
once
in
2010.
Besides,
that
city
has
done
this
kind
of
financing
for
the
roy
small
school
and
I
think
one
more
organization.
So
this
is
like
this
is
kind
of
a
like.
An
Evanston
have
been
doing
it
now.
E
The
other
big
question
is
whether
it
incurs
any
liability,
whether
it
affects
the
city's
rating.
What
if
the
caravel
default?
Is
it
the
city's
liability
to
pay
for
the
debt?
And
the
answer
is
no,
and
if
you
look
at
this
couple
of
bills,
I
think
the
document
I
think
which
might
be
part
of
the
package
where
it
says
even
the
bond
holder
in
the
event
of
a
default
back
here.
E
We
cannot
compel
the
city
of
Evanston
to
pay
for
it,
and,
if
you
don't
mind,
I
have
even
I
mean
I
talked
to
our
bond
counsel,
who
helps
us
on
a
regular
bond
Council
and
she
was
fine.
She
has
helped
us
in
the
past
min
Chapman
and
Cutler
the
same
forum,
and
even
we
have
the
school
bond
counsel.
The
Janet
from
Karen
and
I
think
she
can
talk
about
for
a
few
minutes
just
to
cover
all
these
aspects,
and
you
know
kind
of
help
them
more
like
in
the
technical
details
of.
D
E
The
conduit
financing
so
that
they
get
the
text
exams,
do
you
know
financing
it,
but
again
it's
not
in
our
financials.
If
you
look
at
the,
we
have
the
audited
reports
for
last
so
many
years
and
carefully
already
have
the
financials
Royce
more
bonds
are
outstanding.
It's
not
there.
It
is
just
to
be
reported
as
a
footnote.
So
it's
not
in
our
debt
schedule,
it's
not
on
our
balance
sheet.
So
it's
not
our
debt
in
that.
Okay,
all.
E
It
is
between
the
understanding
and
the
relationship
of
two
organizations.
I
mean
it
varies
from
the
city
versus
the
other
school.
Now,
our
president
here
has
that
we
have
never
chat
them
the
field
and
when
we
did
the
two
last
deals
in
one
2010
and
the
other
one
in
24
but
weekend
you
are
you're
not
legally
kind
of
a
probably
dead
from
charging.
The
industry
is.
F
E
Nowadays,
they,
you
know
the
what
are
called
that
difference
between
the
tax-exempt
and
taxable
it's
kind
of
getting
like
a
slimmer
and
slimmer,
and
so
I
don't
know
exactly
the
market.
What
right
now
it
stands
but
yeah.
It
is
kind
of
shrinked
a
lot
and
particularly
with
the
municipal,
the
tax
law
change.
Now,
even
the
municipalities
cannot
do
a
tax
exempt.
What
you
call
advanced
refunding.
You
know.
E
But
the
one
thing
is:
yes,
like
suppose
our
bond
council
kind
of
worked
on
it
looked
at
the
document
looked
at
the
audience
and
all
that
those
things
would
be
paid
directly
by
the
school
school
like
hide
their
bond
council,
any
administrative
fees
deborah
hearing
publication,
all
these
are
borne
by
the
school.
So
there's
no
fee
directly,
which
city
of
Evanston
has
been
cut
right
now:
okay,.
F
G
So
we
look
into
this
issue
suppose
in
all
fairness
before
tonight,
we
hadn't
looked
at
this
issue,
so
we've
been
looking
at
it
throughout
the
day
if
we
were
to
want
to
apply
some
sort
of
added
fee
to
carry
value.
That
would
be
something
that
they
would
not
be
expecting
until
this
moment
in
time.
So
the
council
would
have
to
deliberate
on
what
they
would
consider
to
be
fair,
based
on
it
being
such
a
late
play
in
the
game.
G
But
if
the
City
Council
wanted
to
enact
policy
going
forward
that
if
we
were
going
to
take
advantage
of
or
let
other
entities
take
advantage
of,
this
kind
of
kind
of
financing,
the
city
could
assess
a
fee
other
states,
it's
typically
around
ten
thousand
dollars.
That
seems
like
enough
money
that
would
cover
our
administrative
costs
and
it's
reasonable.
That's
typical
in
the
state
of
Indiana,
but
there
is
no
standard
in
Illinois.
That's
currently
applied,
but
is.
F
There
any
this
may
be
a
question
for
karbala.
Is
there
any
scheduling,
reason
why
we
could
not
amend
this
at
the
at
a
fee
and
then
go
forward
with
this
I?
Don't
know
I
mean
I
did
a
breaking
ground
on
something.
This
is
refined.
This
is
refinancing
bonds
that
have
already
been
used
to
pay
for
construction,
correct,
yeah,
okay,
so
all
right!
Thank
you.
Okay,.
H
I
H
H
I
If
we
delayed
this,
the
they
would
have
to
go
back
to
53rd
and
see
if
they
could
still
maintain
the
rates
that
they
had
offered
them.
The
reason
that
they're
doing
the
refinancing
is
to
fix
the
rates
at
the
current
low
rates.
The
interest
rate
markets
are
moving
on
all
the
time,
and
so
they
have
because
of
the
way
the
bank's
approval
work.
They
have
a
limited
period
of
time
in
which
they
can
take
take
advantage
of
the
purchase
of
the
particular
offer
that
they
are
from
just
third
minute.
A
I
A
I
A
I
I
Understand
about
numbers
you're,
probably
not
asking
the
right
the
right
people
about
it.
Unfortunately,
we
don't
have
one
of
the
bankers
here
to
be
able
to
answer
the
question
for
you.
There
is
typically
a
differential
between
taxable
and
tax-exempt
rates.
Jacksonville
rates
are
typically
higher.
The
other
thing
that
typically
happens
with
the
taxable
debt
is
that
it
typically
is
a
shorter
loan.
You
know,
but
can
I
can
I
give
you
chapter
and
verse
about
know
what
the
effect
would
be.
So
anything
I
can.
Okay.
I
The
city
has
the
ability
to
issue
bonds
on
its
own
behalf.
It
also
has
the
ability
to
issue
to
issued,
to
issued
tax-exempt
debt
to
benefit
any
501,
C
3
charitable
organization
that
it
chooses,
and
that
has
the
credit
worthiness
to
be
able
to
pay
back
the
debt
that
you're
that
you're
issuing
on
their
behalf.
I
Obviously
Fifth
Third
wouldn't
be
buying.
The
bonds
of
thick
didn't
believe
that
that
Cara
Valley
had
ability
to
pay
back
to
pay
back
the
dad
it's
some
charter.
Schools
are
public
option
charter
schools,
some
charter,
schools
are
501c3
charter,
schools,
I'm,
not
familiar
with
family,
focuses
structure.
I
would
think
it's
a
501c3,
but
I'm
not
sure,
but
but
certainly
legally,
the
city
can
issue
debt
for
501
C
3
s,
which
is
why
you
in
the
past
issue
debt
for
the
cradle
and
for
ROI
smart
as
well
as
for
me,
how.
H
J
G
K
L
Do
think
it
would
be
worthwhile
I
mean
these
questions
that
already
whoo
Simmons
are
asking
our
good
ones,
but
they
aren't
necessarily
relevant
to
karbala
at
this
point,
I
think
that
we
should
get
and
I
was
disappointed
in
the
packet
that
there
wasn't
a
better
explanation
of
what
these
bonds.
You
know
how
this
you
know
how
what
what
the
city's
role
in
this
is
and
who's
eligible
and
and
how
this
works,
because
it's
state
law
isn't
it
that
permits
us
to
do
this.
Actually
you.
L
But
but
it's
it's
from
the
Illinois,
the
state
of
Illinois
is
the
it's
from
your
Home
Rule
powers
under
the
Constitution.
It's
not
the
question
I
was
asking,
but
so
I
think
we
need
a
memo
from
the
staff.
That's
in
layman's
language
that,
because
I
remember
the
first
time,
Cara
Valley
approached
the
city.
With
this
we
had
a
memo
that
explained
all
of
this,
and
just
you
know
made
it
crystal
clear
that
the
city
is
it's
not
increasing
its
liability.
The
city
has
no
no
responsibility
and
the
city
is
not
not
responsible
for
this.
L
So
we
need
to
have
that
and
we
need
to
send
that
out
to
the
public
with
a
lot
more
information
on
this,
and
the
council
needs
to
have
a
session
where
we
understand
whether
it
could
be
employed
by
one
of
the
other
501
C
3s
in
the
community.
I
only
know,
Simmons
I
had
never
heard
of
this
before
Carla
Valley
came
forward
and
I
think
it
was
oh
six
yeah.
Thank
you.
E
The
city
will
not
incur
a
liability
to
repay
this
in
the
event
of
default
by
the
caramely.
This
that
does
not
appear
in
the
city's
financial
balance
sheet,
but
appears
only
as
an
ordinal
financial
things
section.
Two
of
the
ordinance
outlines
the
fact
that
the
bonds
are
not
an
indebtedness
or
obligation
of
the
city
and
owner
of
the
bonds
have
the
right
to
compel
the
city
to
text
for
the
payment
of
the
bond.
So
I
thought
we
got
like
the
and
again
I
mean
yes,
we
could
be.
L
G
E
One
thing
which
I
think
you
signals
brought
up
in
that
Caravan
have
been
done
like
this
was
the
third
tank,
so
we
thought
there,
okay,
the
city
has
done
paying
the
people
know
that
meant
that
we
know
that
the
other
thing
which
might
I
think
Janet
brought
up
when
you
said
about
the
focus
and
the
other
couple
of
D.
What's
that
my.
E
Focus
and
others
the
important
thing
is
their
ability
to
pay
back.
So
even
if
they're
like
qualify
as
501c3,
we
can
give
them
the
money
like
country
financings
of
the
debt,
but
whether
they
would
be
able
to
repair
something
like
of
eight
million
dollar
debt
service
so
and
I,
don't
know,
I
mean
I
once
looked
at
their
financial,
but
sometimes
yeah.
That
might
be
the
kind
of
where
do.
H
A
I
The
city
is
not
liable,
okay
and
and
not
only
does
the
the
ordinance
and
the
the
bond
and
loan
agreement
to
say
that
the
bond
itself
says
that
and
fifth
third
signs,
an
investor
letter
which
acknowledges
that
and
that
letter
is
addressed
to
the
city,
Levenstein
and,
and
those
are
all
requirements
before
the
bond
deal
can
close.
Okay,.
F
I
F
I
F
Access
to
otherwise,
so
what
I
would
hope
we
could
do
and
keep
your
schedule
is
figure
out
what
the
savings
are
and
then
figure
out
a
reasonable
fee
for
the
city
of
Evanston
to
charge
care
Valley,
where
care
of
ISIL
comes
out
ahead
of
where
they
would
be
otherwise,
and
the
taxpayers
get
something
for
being
part
of
this
process.
Is
that
something
that
we
can
do
before
November
and
still
have
time
for
third
and
everything
that
you
talked
about?
Is
that
staff,
our
staff?
Is
that
something
we
can
come
up
with.
E
O
My
name
is
Kerry
Charles
I'm,
actually,
the
treasurer
of
the
board
for
care
of
Olli
Montessori
I
just
wanted
to
speak
a
little
bit
to
this.
We
certainly
can
gather
that
data
I
do
want
to
clarify,
though,
that,
depending
on
the
outcome
of
that,
we
have
other
alternatives
that
could
be
explored,
which
would
then
open
up
a
whole
nother
can
of
worms
in
terms
of
evaluating
it.
So
it
might
completely
throw
us
off
our
timeframe
from
being
able
to
proceed
with
this
issuance
and
with
the
project
associated
with
the
dollars
involved.
F
O
F
O
G
Mr.
mayor
members
of
council
I
just
wanted
to
know
that
this
item
is
on
the
city
council
agenda
this
evening,
just
for
introduction.
So
should
the
council
want
to
just
approve
it
for
introduction
staff
could
go
back
and
discuss
this
with
care
valiant
and
come
to
some
sort
of
suggestion
or
agreement
that
we
could
then
bring
to
council
on
the
11th
that
you
could
then
determine
whether
or
not
you
wanted
to
approve
it
for
reaction
on
that
night.
A
A
Conversely,
you
could
also
say:
what's
the
harm
of
us
doing
this,
supporting
you
know
a
important
institution
that
many
you
know,
family
members,
you
know
belong
to
here
in
Evanston,
so
there's
two
ways
just
to
look
at
it.
We
got
lots
of
lights
on
aldermen
win
and
then
we'll
get
alderman
Wilson
and
then
all
them
in
funding.
L
L
But
you
know
I
will
speak.
Aravalli
is
in
the
Third
Ward
and
has
been
for
I
think
its
entire
history.
They
are
an
economic
engine
there
at
the
corner
of
Dempster
and
Henman.
For
all
of
this
time
they
took
over
the
city,
actually
sold
actually
did
not
sell
rented
them
the
building
for
a
period
of
time.
The
city
couldn't
maintain
the
old
Miller
school
and
karbala
has
done
a
really
magnificent
job,
maintaining
it.
L
It
was
what
it
is:
a
Daniel
Burnham
building,
although
it's
been
altered
quite
a
bit,
the
city
didn't
have
a
use
for
it
and
Carnevale
stepped
in
and
said
they
haven't
used
for
it
and
over
over
the
years
it
has
been
a
real
asset
to
the
community.
It
provides
a
preschool,
that's
very
popular
and
then
a
relatively
small
elementary
school.
L
It
is
also
a
big
economic
engine
to
the
whole
main
Dempster
mile,
because
the
frequency
that
parents
are
coming
and
going
and
I
and
I
would
have
to
say
there
are
many
many
businesses
on
Main
Dempster
mile
who
know
Carvalho
parents
well
and
the
car
volley
as
an
institution
as
a
regular
customer,
so
I.
You
know
that
this
is
this,
is
a
valuable
institution
in
our
community
and
has
been
for
a
very
long
time
and
I
really
don't
want
to
put
them
in
a
difficult
financial
position.
L
F
P
Q
J
If
we
talk
about
it
now,
though,
then
we
have
to
talk
about
it
later,
I
mean
why
don't
finish
now?
But
so
my
point
is,
like
you
know,
I
think
a
fee
is
a
great
idea.
I
also
do
understand
about
you
know
kind
of.
Maybe
you
feel
like
it's
unfair,
the
the
issue
for
us
and
this
council
is
the
first
time
we've
had
to
talk
about
it,
so
it
wasn't
like
attached
consulted
me
when
you
guys
came
to
him
and
asked
my
wife.
J
You
know
I,
don't
have
another
opportunity
to
say
X,
Y,
&
Z
about
something
this
is
my
opportunity,
so
I
don't
mean
to
make
it
be
unfair
and
a
surprise
to
you.
This
is
the
only
chance
I've
had
to
talk
about
it.
What
I
will
say
just
in
terms
of
staffing
for
going
forward
is,
if
we
do
have
these
funding
options
available
and
I
know,
there
are
specific
organizations
and
qualifiers
in
terms
of
Finance,
but
we
should.
J
There
should
be
a
way
that
we
make
this
available,
because
we
know
we
have
a
city
full
of
nonprofits,
all
of
which
probably
will
call
us
tomorrow
and
say:
I.
Didn't
know
that
you
are
alone,
one
I'm
being
very
serious
right
and
so
I
think
that
when
we're
dealing
with-
and
this
is
not
taxpayer
dollars-
these
are
we're
conduit.
But
this
is
something
that
we
have
I've
been
learning
the
ability
to
potentially
help
nonprofits
out
and
I'm
happy.
J
You
know
to
help
cara
valley,
but
I
think
that
whenever
we
do
something
particular
around
money,
we
have
to
make
sure
that
other
people
know
that
they
might
be
eligible
as
well,
and
so
you
know
a
little
bit.
Shame
on
us
that
this
is.
You
know
your
third
time
and
we've
had
Royce
more
and
with
the
cradle
and
whoever
else
you
know
I
can,
if
I
put
an
email
out
tomorrow
to
tell
nonprofits
they
could
apply
for
some
kind
of
discounted
funding
through
us.
We
would
have
a
line
of
them
coming
here.
J
So
I
just
think
we
have
to
do
a
better
job
as
a
city
to
make
certain
things
available
to
the
particular
population,
with
very
clear
rules
on
how
they
apply
and
who
qualifies
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
it
never
looks
like
we're
playing
favorites
or
you
have
to
be
in
a
certain
no
to
know
to
apply
for
these
things.
So
in
terms
of
the
fee,
I
think
this
is
just
for
introduction.
It
gives
you
all
time
to
kind
of
think
about
it
for
us
to
figure
out
what
the
fee
might
be.
J
You
have
time
to
shop
around
for
a
better
rate
if
you
can
buy
one
and
then
I
think
even
before
the
11th.
If
this
is
the
next
time
this
was
going
to
come
forward.
We
will
all
know,
because
you
all
have
discussions
without
us.
If
this
was
going
to
work
or
not,
and
so
it's
not
like
we're
not
going
to
have
a
conversation
again
until
the
11th.
J
J
Right,
if
you
need
to
be
occur,
we've
done
with
bit
there
on
the
14th
you're
still
not
gonna.
Have
that
answer
until
11:00,
just
based
on
our
calendar
work,
so
I
think
by
asking
us
to
work
through
it
via
propose
that
fee
to
you.
I
would
assume
that
gives
you
still
some
time
because
you're
not
coming
back
here
to
the
11th.
So
those
are
my
my
two
cents
about
it.
Thank.
A
You
alderman,
just
so
everybody's
clear,
the
city
of
Evanston
is
not
the
one
who
is
going
to
be
loaning
this
money.
Okay,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
everybody's
clear
about
that.
I,
don't
want
anybody
walking
away,
and
so
again,
if
there
are
other
qualifying
institutions
out
there,
you
need
to
ultimately
be
qualified
by
a
bank
who
says
we
can
sell
these
bonds
and
there
are
people
in
the
market
that
will
buy
them
and
by
using
this
vehicle
here
through
the
city
of
Evanston,
it
is
just
giving
you
sort
of
some
preferential
tax
treatment.
A
H
This
this
comment
really
isn't
for
Cara
Valli.
It's
really
for
everyone:
staff,
the
financial
community,
Cara
Valli,
everyone
that
knows,
for
example,
that
an
institution
like
like
family
focus
might
qualify
and
there's
a
group
of
you
know
low
moderate
income
residents
that
are
struggling
to
try
to
preserve
it,
while
the
conditions
are
terrible.
H
So
I
think
this
is
really.
My
frustration
is
that
we
haven't
talked
and
been
like
creative
enough
about
how
we
can
preserve
other
institutions
and
there's
an
information
disparity
in
this
community
that
is
keeping
other
institutions
and
other
communities
oppressed
and
not
enjoying
the
same
quality
of
life
and
and
and
freedoms
and
liberties,
as
others.
H
So
I
just
want
to
I
want
to
say
that
out
loud,
that
I
will
be
sharing
this
information
with
some
other
nonprofits
and
towns
and
other
organizations
that
have
initiatives
to
see
if
this
is
a
product
that
they
could
benefit
from,
but
I'm,
hoping
that
the
community
abroad
is
not
withholding
information
and
opportunities
to
uplift.
Other
parts
of
the
community
that
we
say
we're
all
concerned
about,
so
I
just
want
to
say
that.
G
Mayor
and
members
of
council
I
just
wanted
to
add
that
Steph
is
gonna,
do
a
full
report
on
this
mechanism
and
who
is
eligible
to
do
it
and
how
one
would
go
about
doing
it.
We're
gonna
post
it
on
the
website
for
all
to
see
so
I
I'll
share
that
with
everybody,
and
you
can
then
share
it
with
your
networks.
All.
A
R
Mr.
mayor
I
think
you
really
said
what
I
was
going
to
say
but
I
after
listening
to
alderman,
Simmons
I
still
don't
think
it's
clear,
and
that
is
when
you
go
to
the
banks.
The
banks
are
the
ones
that
would
send
you
to
the
city
and
the
city
is
really
not
in
any
position
to
qualify.
Anybody
for
this
or
to
support
a
program
like
this
I
mean
this.
R
H
A
little
scary
now
it's
the
information
that
I've
had
two
different
leaders
of
local
nonprofits
say
that
until
this
agenda
item
they
were
not
aware
and
they're
gonna
look
into
it
and
see
if
it's
an
option
for
them.
So
that's
the
discussion
yes
I
have
to
have
with
their
bank
would
bear
with
their
board
with
whoever's
doing
their
financials.
Are
they
seasoned
enough
to
do
it,
but
at
least
they
have
the
information
to
pursue
it
at
this
point,
and
that's
all
that
I'm
saying
just.
R
R
R
A
All
right,
well
we're
going
to
get
more
information.
City
manager,
confirmed,
city
managers
agreed
to
get
us
all
of
that.
So
we
can
better
understand
this
conduit
financing
and
how
it
works.
Is
there
anything
else
in
regards
to
the
to
this
public
hearing
on
this
tougher
hearing,
and
we
don't
not
know
comfortable.
K
A
C
A
A
In
favor
aye
hearing
is
adjourned.
The
that
hearing
is
adjourned.
We're
now
going
to
move
into
our
second
hearing
of
the
evening.
The
second
hearing
is
the
proposed
First
Amendment
for
excuse
me
is
no.
It
is
it's.
The
proposed
first
amendment
for
the
Howard
Ridge
tax,
increment
finance
district
I
call
this
public
hearing
for
the
proposed
first
amendment
to
the
Howard
Ridge,
taxing
in
increment
finance
district,
to
order
the
proposed
redevelopment
plan
and
project
to
be
presented
by
the
economic
development
staff
and
our
consultants.
A
Kane
McKenna
defines
a
plan
to
assist
a
strategically
important
area
of
our
city
in
overcoming
a
number
of
redevelopment
barriers.
The
first
amendment
to
Howard
Ridge
TIF
district
everyone's
attention.
The
proposed
first
amendment
to
Howard
Ridge
TIF
district
expands
the
district
west
along
Howard
Street
from
Ridge
to
Ashland
just
west
of
Asbury.
The
purpose
of
this
public
hearing
is
to
hear
from
any
interested
persons
or
affected
taxing
districts.
Regarding
the
proposed
plan,
the
designation
of
the
tax,
the
TIF
district
and
the
adoption
of
TIF
financing.
The
City
Council
shall
hear
all
comments,
protests
and
objections.
A
A
S
You
mr.
mayor
members
of
the
City
Council
Barbara
slicky,
with
King
McKenna
and
associates
as
part
of
the
amendment
to
the
TIF
district,
the
city
did
have
to
embark
with
our
assistance
on
a
series
of
notices
that
were
sent
out
over
the
last
60
days.
Seventy
days,
we
first
sent
out
notices
to
state
Illinois,
as
well
as
all
the
taxing
districts,
a
record.
S
Those
went
out
certified
mail
as
it
related
to
this
hearing,
as
well
as
the
joint
review
board
meeting
on
September
25th
notices
were
sent
to
all
taxpayers
of
record
within
the
boundaries
of
the
TIF
district
old
and
the
amended,
as
well
as
all
the
residential
addresses
they
were
identified
by
King
McKenna
and
the
city
staff.
So
residential
addresses
in
the
TIF
and
tax
payers
of
record
within
the
TIF
were
also
given
notice
of
the
hearing
and
the
availability
the
plan
there
were
also
two
general
newspaper
notices.
A
R
Well
present,
as
the
joint
review
board
was
the
representative
from
Cook
County
and
this
to
school
districts.
Although
everybody
was
invited
and
the
city
of
Evanston,
and
it
was
interesting,
we
had
a
resident
who
came
and
made
some
complaints
regarding
the
fact
that
Chicago
didn't
seem
to
be
doing
their
fair
share
and
did
not
believe
that,
because
Chicago
had
not
kept
up
that
the
Evanston
side,
the
increment
there
could
not
be
generated
to
the
extent
that
it
would
be
meaningful.
R
And
so
it
was
so
interesting
that
the
two
school
districts
explained
to
this
person
that
they
had.
They
had
nothing
but
praise
for
Evanston
tax,
increment
financing
districts
and,
when
I'm,
to
say
that,
several
years
ago,
when
school
districts
were
laying
off
around
around
County
were
laying
off
teachers
that
our
school
districts
were
not
doing
so,
and
it
was
because
of
closing
out
of
various
a
couple
of
different
Tiff's
that
they'd
never
had
to
layoff
a
schoolteacher
and
the
representative
from
the
Cook
County
Cook
County.
R
Taxing
district
said
that
he
had
two
meetings
in
the
afternoon
for
joint
review
boards
and
he
was
wondering
if
our
school
districts
could
cope
with
him
because
he
had
never
heard
school
districts.
Praise
tax,
increment
financing
districts
before
so
anyway.
One
of
the
great
things
about
this
TIF
district
is
well
it's
not
generating
gigantic.
In
increments
right
now,
the
current
district.
R
It
has
11
new
property
owners
between
Ridge
and
the
CTA
tracks,
property
owners,
not
just
new
businesses,
and
so
this
district
is
the
expansion
is
going
to
go
from
Ridge
to
Ashland,
which,
if
you
know
Howard
Street
at
all,
that
is
just
beyond
the
IHOP
and
the
bank
building
the
street
just
beyond
that
to
the
west.
So
it
is
also
going
to
include,
which
is
a
key
development.
R
The
sixty
unit,
affordable
housing,
building
to
be
done,
senior
housing,
building
to
be
done
by
Evergreen
and
the
Council
on
Jewish
elderly
senior
daycare
center,
which
will
be
purchased
by
Evergreen,
so
that
building
has
never
been
on
the
tax
rolls.
The
giant
parking
lot
to
the
east
of
the
building
has
never
been
on
the
tax
rolls
and
the
new
sixty
unit,
affordable,
housing,
senior
building
has
never
been
on
the
texels,
so
that'll
be
a
totally
new
increment.
A
B
A
Paul
Daniels,
alright,
thank
you,
Paul
and
thank
you.
Clerk
read
on
that.
Okay
I'm
now
going
to
invite
Bob
rich
licky
again
to
provide
an
overview
of
the
proposed
first
first
amendment
to
Howard,
Ridge,
TIF
district
and
then,
if
there's
anything
after
you
present
that
Paul's
OMA
Zak
wants
to
add
I
invite
him
to
add
anything
additional
well
sure
Thank,
You.
S
Mr.
mayor,
as
you
indicated
earlier,
this
TIF
is
an
amendment
to
an
existing
tuff
that
the
city
set
up
in
2004
as
a
result
of
the
amendment.
We
are
not
extending
the
life
of
the
TIF
that
23
year
envelope
from
until
2027
with
a
final
payment
in
2028
remains,
what's
primarily
here.
As
part
of
the
consideration
of
the
amendment.
Is
geography
we're
adding
the
area
west
of
Ridge,
it
almost
Ashland.
This
includes
15
structures
and
in
order
to
qualify
under
the
TIF
act,
we
have
to
make
a
demonstration
that
the
area
meets
certain
two
factors.
S
In
this
case
it's
a
Conservation
Area
and
what
that
means
in
English
is
that
50%
or
more
of
the
buildings
are
35
years
old
or
greater.
In
that
case,
we
made
the
threshold
finding
that
73%
of
those
buildings
were
35
years
old
or
greater,
so
that
served
as
the
threshold.
Then
the
TIF
act
requires
us
to
then
a
fight
3
out
of
13
factors,
and
we
identified
six
altogether.
Those
factors
were
running.
T
Mr.
mayor,
thank
you:
I'm
Paul's,
Alma,
Zack,
economic
development
manager
for
the
city
of
Evanston,
Thank
You,
mr.
clerk
and
members
of
the
City
Council.
One
thing
we
haven't
mentioned
is
what's
driving
this.
There
are
some
economic
development
opportunities
as
you
travel
west,
along
how
history,
specifically
the
Dairy
Queen
site
and
some
auto
repair
shops
that
have
great
potential.
As
you
go
further
down
by
you
know.
I
often
forget
we
have
an
IHOP
in
Evanston,
there's
an
IHOP,
but
down
in
that
area.
There's
there's
some
also
are
also
some
development
opportunities.
A
Great.
Thank
you.
Thank
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
Both
of
you
are
there
any
questions
from
the
aldermen
all
right.
Seeing
no
questions.
I'm
now
going
to
open
the
floor
for
public
comment,
we
had
two
people
that
signed
up
for
public
comment.
I,
invite
you
up.
Mike
Visoko
is
the
first
in
the
david
block.
I
D
Not
that
long
ago,
last
week,
overhearing
part
of
Mayor
Lightfoot's
budget
presentation
where
she
said
and
I
quote
the
day
of
tifus
slush
funds
are
over
in
Chicago.
So
you
know
if
we're
counting
on
the
city
of
Chicago,
for
supporting
their
side
of
the
Howard
Street
as
a
TIF
that
could
very
well
be
in
question.
I,
don't
know
what
that
particular
conversation
has
been
about
if
any,
but
she
seems
to
be
on
the
right
side
of
not
using
Tiff's
as
a
slush
fund
and
I.
Think
some
of
that
has
happened
in
Evanston
over
the
years.
D
Some
of
that
has
happened
on
Howard
Street
Howard
Street
is
that
area
of
Howard
Street
is
not
a
blighted
area,
which
is
what
Tiff's
were
originally
intended
for
way
back
in
the
day,
they've
evolved,
of
course.
Now
the
purpose
has
never
been
for
economic
development
as
I
understand
it.
It's
always
been
for
infrastructure
needed
infrastructure,
so
we're
using
Tiff's
as
a
slush
fund.
D
D
And
I
guess.
Lastly,
I'd
like
to
understand
more
about
this
nine
million
seventeen
point:
five
million
dollar
increase.
It
sounds
like
in
what's
capable
in
the
way
of
bonds.
So
that's
really.
The
goal
is
to
get
our
hands
on.
You
know
another
eight
million
and
eight
and
a
half
million
dollars
to
spend
on
Howard
Street.
Is
that
correct
I'd,
like
an
answer
to
that?
Thank
you
and.
U
Good
evening,
mr.
mayor
members
of
the
City
Council
I'm
David
block
I'm,
the
director
of
development
for
evergreen
real
estate
group
I'm,
also
a
13
year
resident
of
Evanston
just
wanted
to.
Let
you
all
know
that
we
are
still
actively
pursuing
as
alderman
Rainey
mentions
the
affordable
housing
partnership
that
we
have
with
CJ
senior
life.
We've
been
hard
at
work
with
our
design
team,
actually,
a
pair
of
architects
who
live
in
Evanston
and
we've
been
back
and
forth
with
City
Planning
and
Zoning
staffs.
U
So
we
are
very
close
to
being
ready
to
go
through
the
the
city
review
process,
so
we're
expecting
to
go
to
two
dapper
I
think
either
next
week
of
the
following
week
and
then
from
there
we'll
follow
the
process
through.
So
we
are
making
progress.
So
we're
very
excited
about
this
and
we're
fully
in
support
of
these
initiatives.
Anything
we
can
do
to
help
further.
The
advancement
of
Howard
Street,
where
we
are
about
to
make
about
a
25
million
dollar
investment,
is
progress
in
our
views.
So
thank
you
for
your
support.
Right.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
David.
Is
there
anyone
else
that
would
like
to
speak
in
this
public
hearing
ray
come
on
up?
Oh
I,
didn't
see
your
name
on
there,
but
we'll
at
it.
I
had
your
name
on
I
had
your
name
on
the
next
one.
We
got
one
more
after
this.
Okay
welcome
for
City,
Council
I
know
that
that
isn't
even
City
Council.
That
would
the
other
one.
We
got
to
do
with
the
truth
in
taxation
hearing
and
then
we'll
get
to
the
City
Council
meeting.
So.
C
So
real,
quick,
I,
just
first
of
all,
I
wanted
to
say:
I
just
spoke
to
Jill
were
sitting
behind
and
she
straightened
me
out
on
the
on
the
Caravela
bonds
that
how
they
work
and
I
had
no
idea
that
they
were
not,
that
they
were
not
being
charged
to
the
city
or
that
it
won't
be
a
negative
effect.
As
far
as
you
know,
credit
rating
or
anything
so
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out
there.
C
So
after
talking
with
alderman
Rainey
about
Tiff's
and
especially
the
Howard
Street
I
was
just
wondering
if
there
is
projects
planned
for
the
Howard
Street
TIF,
but
I
also
have
a
problem
with
not
having
the
money
in
the
TIF
and
I
understand
it's
a
catch-22,
because
you're
you're
getting
you're
getting
tax
money
in
order
to
put
into
a
project.
So
my
thinking
is
well,
you
collect
the
money
first
and
then
you
have
the
money
to
spend
on
a
project
or
projects
whatever,
but
this
way
we're
taking
out
bonds.
C
So
we're
bonding
out
the
TIF
I
think
all
of
the
TIF
we
have
five
or
six
tips
and
I
think
they're
all
bonded
out.
So
then,
my
next
question
is:
is
what's
the
limit
for
bonding
out
a
TIF
to
this?
Is
there
a
maximum
amount
that
that
we
can?
We
can
put
into
that
and
then,
when
do
we?
When
do
we
start
building
up
the
money
within
each
TIF
district?
C
A
V
A
R
Okay,
when,
when
I
made
that
statement,
I
should
have
been
more
clear,
we
closed
out
TIF
or
two
and
the
way
we
pay
out
the
schools
is
I
should
have
said.
We
paid
out
a
lot
of
people,
but
we
take
the
balance
of
I
I
like
it
when
we
have
no
balance,
because
that
means
we
get
to
spend
it
all
at
the
end.
But
when
we
have
a
balance,
when
we
close
out
tax
increment
financing
district,
we
must
pay
out
all
of
the
taxing
bodies
based
on
their
percentage
of
the
total
tax
bill.
R
R
And
furthermore,
they
one
of
the
things
that
the
school
district
said
is
that
when
they
know
one
of
our
districts
is
getting
ready
to
retire,
they
start
planning
to
spend
that
money.
The
big
money
when
the
total
chip
expires.
They
know
how
much
they're
going
to
be
getting
and
it's
just
really
a
bonanza
for
them.
So.
A
I
want
to
want
to
answer
one
more
question:
I,
don't
know
if
it's
you
Bob
or
to
our
city
managers,
staff
or
Paul
zelma
Zack.
There
was
the
question
about
the
forecast
that
you
put
in
there
I
think
the
eight
million
to
the
15
million,
and
you
know
how
entities
think
about
when
they're,
going
to
bond
or
borrow
money
from
a
bank
or
whatever,
to
start
those
first
projects
off
sure.
S
As
it
relates
to
the
budget
amount
again,
that
was,
some
extrapolation
was
taken
into
account
there.
You
know
we
didn't
have
all
the
projects
identified
specifically
if
we
had
a
good
idea
is
related
to
city's
past
experience
with
that
TIF
district
and
the
kind
of
properties
that
we
were,
including,
and
that
was
basically
a
guesstimate
that
we
took
in
as
it
related
to
the
expansion
of
the
budget.
We
knew
we
were
going
to
have
a
larger
budget.
S
It
was
also
our
recommendation
to
increase
that
a
little
bit
more
just
because
of
the
fact
that,
if
you
don't
put
it
in
at
the
amendment,
we'd
have
to
go
through
this
whole
process
again,
so
the
idea
was
to
put
in
a
contingency
as
well
as
an
allocation
for
adding
additional
properties.
So
again
we
based
it
on
the
old
teeth
and
again,
if.
A
S
A
Great
there
any
any
for
any
other
questions
before
we
close
this
hearing.
Okay,
seeing
none
is
there
a
motion
to
close
this
hearing?
Second,
all
in
favor
any
opposed
okay,
this
public
hearing
for
the
tax
increment
finance
district,
the
proposed
first
amendment
at
Howard
and
bridge,
is
now
closed.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Everybody!
We
are
going
to
move
on
now
to
the
third
and
final
public
hearing.
This
one
is
the
public
hearing
on
truth
and
Taxation
for
the
2019
tax
levy.
Yeah.
A
Excuse
me,
the
Evanston
City
Council
is
conducting
a
public
hearing
of
the
2019
property
tax
levy.
The
purpose
of
this
hearing
is
to
allow
for
public
input
on
the
proposed
levy.
There
will
be
no
final
action
on
the
tax
levy.
Today,
I
hereby
convene
the
hearing
for
the
2019
property
tax
levy
to
be
open,
the
property,
the
2019
property
tax
levy
is
included
on
page
40
of
the
2020
2021
proposed
budget
and
can
be
found
at
city
of
Evanston
dot.
Org
forward
slash
budget
okay.
A
So
if
you
want
to
follow
along
on
your
phones
or
your
iPads
again,
that's
on
page
20,
so
I
now
open
this
up
to
any
discussion.
So
I'm
gonna
start
off
right
now,
I've
got
four
people
who
have
signed
up
for
public
comment
on
this
truth
in
taxation.
Hearing
Evy
Russell
is
the
first
one
then
ray
Freeman.
Then
joe
dougherty
welcome
you.
Q
I
have
been
a
resident
living
in
front
of
McCullough
Park
for
39
years,
I'm
shocked
that
the
city
is
suggesting
a
price
tag
of
$225,000
for
innovations
for
this
park.
My
neighbors
would
agree,
even
if
such
a
figure
were
warranted.
This
is
absolutely
not
the
time
for
the
city
to
incur
in
such
expense,
particularly
one
funded
by
bonds.
The
more
pressing
and
worthwhile
projects
for
the
city
to
pursue.
However,
825,000
is
not
at
all
a
needed
figure.
We
don't
need
a
luxury
renovation.
Q
The
problem
of
water
accumulation
under
the
swings,
for
example,
can
be
first
addressed
simply
with
several
bags
of
woodchips
or
more
dirt.
If
that
doesn't
solve
the
problem
of
a
grade
that
specific
area,
but
not
the
entire
park,
which
does
not
need
it
replace
the
trees
that
were
lost
to
the
years
shouldn't
be
too
expensive,
the
roots
will
soak
up
excess
water
regarding
the
play
equipment.
It
does
not
to
be
replaced
entirely.
Just
fix
the
rotting
wood
adults
often
who
do
not
regularly
visit
the
park
with
kids.
Imagine
all
kinds
of
fancy
needs
for
Park.
Q
In
fact,
most
children
are
happy
with
the
slides
and
an
added
water.
I
recently
saw
children
busy,
creating
tunnels
in
the
sand
in
our
park.
Just
like
my
son
loved
to
do
with
his
friends
23
years
ago,
adhering
to
new
park
safety
regulations
should
also
require
an
extraordinary
expense,
also
by
floating
such
a
figure
as
high
as
that
you're
giving
a
blank
check
to
your
consultants.
Q
Finally,
there
is
also
suspicion
among
us
that
such
a
figures
being
floated
to
possibly
modify
the
stadium.
Neighborhood
perpetuate
the
false
impression
of
neighborhood
privilege
and
showcase
this
part
for
the
u2
crowds.
Please
involve
the
surrounding
neighborhood,
both
for
input
and
advice
on
the
McCulloh
project.
This
park
is
extensively
used
by
closely
knit
community
of
parents
and
old-timers
living
not
just
next
to
the
park,
but
many
blocks
away
in
all
directions.
This
community
includes
landscape
specialists,
educators,
gardeners,
carpenters,
etc.
Please
use
our
knowledge
and
our
experience
with
this
park.
A
You
miss
Russell,
and
just
so
just
so
everybody
knows
you
know
whenever
we
do
a
major
renovation
to
any
parks
and
correct
me,
the
folks
that
have
been
up
here
for
a
long
time.
We
always
seek
neighbor
input
before
we
start
that
project
and
everything
else.
So
if
that
project
goes
through
mcculloch
Park,
that's
what
will
happen
so
neighbors
will
be
involved
in
there.
Their
inputs
on
okay,
we're
gonna
move
on
to
the
next
comment:
ray
Friedman
and
Joe
Doherty.
C
You
a
long
time
haven't
seen
you
so
I
can
honestly
say:
I've
tried
to
pay
attention
as
much
as
I
could
I
don't
understand
the
let
tax
levy
I
understand
it's
supposed
to
be
ten
point:
nine
percent
I
don't
understand
how
that
directly
affects
my
property
taxes
and
I've
asked
a
couple
of
people.
They
don't
understand
it
either
and
I,
and
so
if
the
public
hearing
is
to
to
voice
our
displeasure
about
the
10.9
tax
levy,
then
I
say
don't
do
it
the
end.
D
D
D
A
Thank
you,
Mike,
okay,
I'm,
now
opening
it
up
to
to
the
City
Council
any
comments
about
that
tax
levy.
In
this
hearing,
all
right,
I
am
gonna.
Ask
Hettich
if
you
would
just
come
up,
because
there
was
the
question
race
and
well,
we
have
people
here.
I
would
like
to
help
people
understand
how
they
can
correlate
this
tax
levy
to
their
tax
bills
and
I
know
it's
not
it's
convoluted.
So
if
you
could
just
help,
people
at
a
high
level
understand
that.
E
Good
evening
mayor
and
the
members
of
the
City
Council,
so
yes,
the
net
levy
increase
proposed
is
right.
Now,
ten
point:
nine
percent,
now
few
months
back
in
the
February
or
March,
when
the
Cook
County
Assessor
sent
out
the
bills
about
the
reassessment
for
the
next
year
made
the
first,
it
would
be
applicable
in
the
August
2020
bill
and
I
mean
I
got
so
many
calls.
We
heard
it.
It
was
in
radio
newspaper
everyday
there.
Okay,
if
I'm
my
assessment
went
up
by
20
percent
or
50
percent
or
80
percent.
E
Does
it
mean
my
taxes
would
go
up
by
the
same
amount
like
my
taxes
would
go
by
80
percent
and
the
general
answer
is
no,
and
the
reason
is
that
we
still
don't
know
what
we
call
a
equalized
assessed
value.
You
know
your
property
taxes
are
determined
by
the
rate.
What
is
your
property
tax
rate
and
what
is
the
EAV
equalized
SS
value
of
the
overall
property
and
in
general
we
see
one
thing
and
I
think
the
Koch
ress
era
stressed
that
that
commercial
property
did
not
pay
their
fair
share
for
so
long.
E
So
there's
definitely
a
shift
in
burden
from
the
residential
properties
to
the
commercial
properties
in
terms
of
overall
property
tax
burden,
and
we
had
a
couple
of
scenarios
like
one
of
them
is
here
like
based
on
the
current
numbers,
looks
like
the
city
of
Evanston
will
get
like
a
4.5
billion
dollar
in
the
equalized
assessed
value.
Currently
it
is
2.7
billion
dollar
and
if
you
see
the
like
a
impact
there,
okay
fills
market
value
of
property,
one
hundred
thousand
to
seven
hundred
thousand.
What
was
the
2018?
E
Not
tax,
City
portion
of
the
text,
and
these
are
the
actual
numbers
we
have
it
available
from
the
Koch
Rd
and
then
the
2019
estimated
levy
we
put
it
in
every
25
percent
increase
to
the
residential
level,
because
that
is
the
number
we
got
from
the
counties
that
overall
increase
to
the
residential
property
in
the
city
of
Evanston
is
25
percent.
So
we
applied
that.
E
Yes,
every
individual
owner
could
have
five
percent,
even
I
noticed
couple
of
some
reduction
or
it
could
be
50
percent
or
ten
percent,
but
we
applied
just
an
overall
25
percent
increase
so
like
in
100,000
home.
They
paid
five
hundred
and
forty
dollar
in
the
city
portion
of
the
text
for
2018.
If
the
rear.
We
goes
up
like
that,
with
the
twenty
five
percent
increase,
the
thirty
six
thousand
would
be
their
equalized
ssj2.
E
Well,
when
we
take
the
revised
the
eav
and
their
property
text
would
be
the
city
potion
only
again
for
one
hundred
and
forty
three
dollars.
So
potentially
there
is
some
reduction.
Now
again,
we
don't
know
after
them,
in
every
residential
or
not
every,
but
most
of
the
residential
owners
and
the
commercial
property
owners.
They
are
going
through
the
appeal
process
through
County
Board
of
Review,
and
it
could
go
to
the
even
state,
P
tab,
the
board
at
the
state
level.
E
So
sometimes
it
might
take
time-
and
we
won't
know
our
final
numbers
until
late,
June
or
July
next
year.
So
so
this
is
the
one
scenario
then
what
we
did
is
we
did
the
one
more
scenario
that
okay,
let's
see
if
we
don't
get
the
full
year,
which
is
like
projected
because
they're
you
know
most
of
the
people-
that
the
commercial
entity
is
going
through
the
appeals
process.
E
So
you
would
definitely
notice
that,
yes,
if
you
have
a
ten
percent
like
see
that
twenty
five
percent
increase,
but
the
reflection
on
the
final
property
tax
bill
is
lot
less
than
that
and
again
yes,
we
don't
have
the
equalizer
or
the
multiplier,
which
is
determined
by
the
Department
of
Revenue
at
the
state
of
Illinois,
Cook
County
would
decide
the
assessed
value,
which
would
finally
decide
or
equalize
the
assessed
value
and
those
numbers
would
be
available
next
year
and
these
numbers
would
decide
the
ultimate
tax.
So
all.
E
Right
and
one
more
thing,
I
would
like
bring
it
up
there.
It's
a
good
point.
When
we
said
ten
point:
nine
percent
increase
in
City
portion
of
the
text
series
portion
of
the
text
is
even
less
than
twenty
percent.
So
when
we
increase
the
text
by
around
10
percent
of
our
20
percent
bill,
it
kind
of
equates
to
around
two
percent
increase
of
your
overall
tax
bill,
but
particularly
if
we
get
some
of
those
like
increase
DeHaven,
all
that
yeah
I
mean
I.
Think
the
overall
sense
is
right.
E
W
I
struggled
with
very
good
tutorials
at
the
at
the
sessions.
I
went
with
regard
to
this.
The
question
I
ended
up,
walking
away
and
still
have
even
after
that.
Generous
explanation
is
that
there's
assumptions
built
into
this
and
that
the
some
of
our
smaller
homes
aren't
going
to
be
taxed
as
much
as
the
larger
homes
and
there's
going
to
be.
This
shift
there's
nothing
that
I
know
of
that
speaks
to
that,
except
our
own
attempt
as
a
city
to
try
it
and
look
at
equity.
W
A
E
10.9%
is
the
city
portion
of
the
overall,
including
library,
it's
a
net
levy.
Now
what
happens
is
every
year
we
don't
get
100%
collection,
so
Cook
County
allows
to
a
certain
extent
what
they
call
a
loss
factor
which
we
can
add
now.
Obviously,
that
service,
where
we
have
to
burn
an
interest,
even
in
the
pair's
like
of
some
of
those
recession
times
the
property
tax
collection
ratio,
this
as
low
as
I
think
90
to
93
percent.
We
still
have
to
pay
the
hundred
percent
of
the
bond.
E
Where
would
we
make
up
that
money,
so
Cook
County
of
the
allowable
limit
for
the
Loss
Factor
in
the
general
levy,
as
well
as
the
debt
service
levy?
So
that
is
that
gross
number
like
suppose,
last
year,
I'll
give
you
the
example
Police
and
Fire
pension
fund.
We
got
the
actual
report
recommended
contribution,
so
we
levied
that
number.
We
still
did
not
get
it
enough
money.
What
we
did
is
we
took
it
out
of
the
general
fund
property
tax
money
and
made
them
whole
because
we
have
to
kind
of
based
on
our
policies.
E
We
have
to
make
them
whole.
So
this
is
like
thirteen
point.
Nine
percent
is
with
the
loss
factor
built
in,
but
ultimately
we
will
get
what
we
are
kind
of
living
because
generally
the
last
few
years
I
see
that
it
sometimes
ninety
five,
ninety
seven,
ninety
nine,
depending
on
the
economy.
Now
the
collection
rate
thank.
A
X
A
All
in
favor
any
opposed
okay,
the
public
hearing
for
the
truth
and
Taxation
for
the
2019
tax
levy
is
adjourned.
We're
now
going
to
move
into
what
will
be
recognizable
to
many
people,
which
is
our
standard
City
Council
agenda.
The
first
thing
up
is
mayor.
Public
announcements
and
proclamations
you'll
be
happy
to
know.
I
don't
have
any
tonight
since
it's
1010,
alright
city
manager,
do
you
have
any
announcements?
Yes,.
G
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
on
the
discussion
at
the
end
of
P
and
D
about
meeting
on
November
11th
as
it
stands
right
now,
we
do
have
a
meeting
scheduled
for
that
evening.
It
is
Veterans.
Day
would
love
to
get
a
strawpoll
from
the
council
members
on
if
people
are
able
to
attend
that
meeting
or
if
we
should
consider
having
it
in
another
evening.
L
B
Have
one
reminder
for
folks
that
you
can
sign
up
for
public
comment
online?
If
you
go
to
city
of
Evanston
org
and
go
and
fort
slash
city
clerk,
you
can
click
the
public
comment,
tab
and
sign
up
online
them
sure.
There's
some
folks
who
used
to
today
and
there's
a
big
rush
of
folks
signing
up
for
the
end
to
speak
on
agenda
items
tonight.
B
I
think
a
lot
of
them
have
left,
but
you
can
sign
up
online
if
you
can
wait
a
little
bit
longer
to
see
where
the
council
meeting
when
the
council
meeting
is
starting
and
you
can
also
make
sure
you're
at
the
top
of
the
list,
so
you
don't
have
to
wait
several
hours
to
speak.
So
that
is
my
only
announcement
in
the
reminder.
Okay,.
B
A
Now
but
I
don't
know
if
that's
fair
to
people,
what's,
let's,
let's
see
where
the
I
I
think
I
glad
that
we're
trying
to
solve
this
problem.
So,
let's
just
see
with
the
show
hands,
keep
your
hands
up
for
a
minute.
How
many
people
want
to
talk?
Okay,
keep
them
up.
1,
2,
3,
4,
ok
bill
your
hands!
Not
up!
A
Is
it
all
right:
5,
6,
7,
8,
9,
10,
11,
12,
13,
14,
15,
16,
17,
18,
19,
20,
21,
22,
all
right
I
got
20,
22
people,
I'm
gonna,
give
you
a
alright
it's
the
best
I
could
count
for
my
my
survey.
I'm
gonna
give
everybody
two
minutes
when
you're
at
145,
I'm
gonna
say
thank
you
just
like
alderman
or
Simmons
did
earlier,
and
when
you're
at
your
two
minutes,
I'm
calling
the
name
of
the
next
person.
Okay.
So
let's
get
this
started.
M
Evening,
City
Council
and
mr.
mayor
and
mr.
clerk
Kerry
Von
Hoff
I'm,
a
proud
northwestern
alumna
class
of
2000
and
a
trusted
of
Evanston.
Since
2003
I've
lived
on
Bryan
Avenue
about
a
block
from
Ryan
field
for
the
last
15
years,
I
opposed
a
new
zoning
text
amendment
and
specifically,
would
like
to
address
the
issue
of
precedent.
That's
my
bailiwick
as
I'm
a
practicing
attorney
as
well.
M
Several
years
ago,
football
parking
started
on
the
greens
of
canal
Shores,
Golf
Course,
on
our
block
when
neighbors
expressed
concern
about
the
idea
and
suggested
the
problems
that
would
result
from
tailgating
at
the
course
in
a
residential
neighborhood,
we
were
assured
there
were
no
plans
to
allow
tailgates
at
Canal
shores
in
2017.
Despite
those
assurances
tailgating
began
at
Canal
Shores,
we
were
told,
let's
see
how
it
goes
now.
M
Tailgating
on
the
greens
has
established
an
expanded,
despite
feedback
from
neighbors
that
things
are
not
going
well
garbage
on
the
streets
and
parkways,
disorderly
and
reckless
driving
are
now
regular
day.
Game
day
occurrences
a
small
residential
street
with
many
young
children,
including
my
three.
This
is
an
example
of
why
many
people
in
the
neighborhood
are
opposed
to
an
amendment
that
would
allow
professional
events
to
take
place
at
the
Athletic
Complex
time
and
again,
when
given
an
inch
and
saying
it
will
go.
M
No
further
northwestern
has,
after
a
short
time
taken
a
mile
and
use
a
used,
a
conceded
inch
as
precedent
to
continue
to
take
that
mile
northwestern
has
not
acted
as
a
trustworthy,
neighbor
they're
now
seeking
a
privileged
unearned
that
has
significant
potential
to
change
the
neighborhood
by
bringing
professional
events
into
the
athletic
conflict
complex.
What
has
happened
at
the
tailgates
in
Canal
shorts
is
just
a
prelude
to
what
will
happen
with
professional
events.
I'm
very
disappointed
in
Northwest
argue.
A
A
Y
For
1322
livingston,
in
recommending
this
proposal,
the
planning
committee
states
that
the
proposal
is
consistent
with
its
goals
stated
in
the
committee's
comprehensive
plan
to
quote
support
the
growth
and
evolution
of
institutions,
while
recognizing
that
they
are
part
of
their
mostly
residential
surroundings.
The
committee
seems
to
have
dismissed
the
many
voices
many
in
which
we
have
heard
tonight
and
in
meetings
before
who
presented
evidence
using
well
researched
facts
to
clearly
present
the
adverse
effects
of
the
zoning
change
on
the
surrounding
residential
community.
The
north-western
proposal
will
be
good
for
only
one
community
northwestern
itself.
Y
Northwestern
cannot
widen
Asbury
or
put
more
than
ten
parking
spaces
on
my
residential
street.
The
financial
benefit
to
the
city's
budget
will
be
small,
while
the
erosion
to
the
quality
of
the
residential
community
will
be
great.
The
Planning
Commission
needs
to
consider
its
mission
stated
elsewhere
in
the
Planning
Commission
I'm,
sorry
elsewhere,
in
its
comprehensive
general
plan,
to
quote
preserve
the
quality
and
integrity
of
residential
areas
through
devices
such
as
zoning
and
to
guard
against
spillover
nuisances
into
residential
neighborhoods.
Y
Z
Thank
you,
I'm
Jill,
Greer
I
live
at
13,
21,
Jenks,
Street
I'm,
also
in
a
northwestern
alum
I'm,
a
20-year
football
season,
ticket
holder
and
a
16
year
resident,
who
truly
loves
living
in
the
u2,
but
I'm
really
frustrated.
I.
Think
this
northwestern
proposed
amendment
is
dramatic
and
I'm
frustrated
that
it's
not
accompanied
by
any
comprehensive
or
expert
validated
proof
of
concept.
I
mean
that
seems
pretty
straightforward
and
I.
Z
Don't
understand
how
the
council
is
considering
supporting
it
at
this
point,
I,
don't
understand
why
the
burden
of
proof
has
fallen
to
me
and
my
neighbors
to
demonstrate
the
harm
of
this
proposal.
I
feel
like
the
council
should
be
insisting
that
Northwestern
demonstrate
with
data
facts
and
expert
testimony
that
the
amendment
will
first
cause
no
harm
and
then
that
will
actually
be
not
beneficial.
I
heard
many
council
members
actually
at
the
earlier
Commission,
making
that
same
argument
that
anecdotal
accounts
and
a
few
PowerPoint
slides
is
not
a
feasibility
study.
Z
I
feel
like
we
just
all
deserve
more
than
trust
us.
This
will
be
awesome,
I'm
frustrated
because
the
2-year
sunset
isn't
a
substitute
for
this
kind
of
study.
Turning
the
city
in
my
neighborhood
into
test
subjects,
creating
potential
havoc
and
definite
uncertainty
in
our
community
for
the
next
two
years
is
unreasonable,
unfair
and
Andres
unjust.
Z
That
said,
if
the
council
moves
to
approve
the
amendment
poor
you
to
thoroughly
analyze
the
issues,
evaluate
the
outcomes
carefully
over
the
next
two
years
and
please
reach
out
to
those
of
us
who
live
in
the
community
so
that
we
can
share
first-hand
accounts
with
you
about
how
problematic
we
think
this
is.
Thank
you
thanks.
AA
Good
evening
my
name
is
Joe
Doherty
I'm
here
to
talk
about
something
other
than
Northwestern
I'm,
the
chief
legal
and
legislative
office
officer
for
the
national
and
Illinois
self-storage
associations
I'm
here
this
evening
to
explain
why
we
believe
that
the
proposed
self
storage
unit
tax
would
be
harmful
to
Evanston
its
residents,
its
residents
and
its
businesses.
First,
allow
me
to
explain
a
little
bit
about
the
self
storage
industry.
Self
storage
businesses
start
at
approximately
fifty
years
ago
to
meet
the
needs
of
individuals
and
families
in
transition
or
facing
difficult
life
circumstances.
AA
In
our
industry
jargon,
we
refer
to
the
four
DS
of
storage,
death,
divorce
dislocation
and
disaster,
some
out
of
v
downsizing.
As
you
heard
from
one
of
our
members
this
weekend,
the
average
self
storage
tenant
has
a
household
income
below
$55,000
and
lives
within
15
minutes
of
the
storage
facility
that
they
use.
These
facts
taken
together
show
that
a
Self
Storage
tax
in
Evanston
will
have
a
disproportionate
effect
on
lower
and
middle
income
residents
of
Evanston
its
neighboring
communities.
AA
There's
been
some
discussion
about
the
existence
of
Self
Storage
taxes
and
in
neighboring
communities
such
as
will
Matan
in
Skokie
Wilmette
looked
at
last
year,
but
did
not
implement
a
similar
tax.
A
similar
tax
is
currently
on
hold
in
Skokie,
as
we
have
discussions
with
mayor
Van,
Deusen
and
village
staff
Skokie's
passed
that
tax
on
a
consent
agenda
without
any
public
debate
or
comment
from
the
affected
consumers
or
businesses.
AA
Respectfully
I
suggest
that
Evanson
take
a
different
approach
by
engaging
with
the
Self
Storage
businesses
in
your
community
before
deciding
whether
to
move
forward
with
this
tax.
We
welcome
that
opportunity
to
meet
with
cities,
elected
officials
or
staff,
the
self-storage
of
businesses
in
Evanston
paid
approximately
$350,000
in
property
taxes
to
the
city
of
Evanston
in
levy
year
2018
with,
as
you
heard
earlier
tonight,
likely
increases
in
2019.
Thank.
AA
AB
All
right
good
evening,
Harris
Miller
from
the
Fourth
Ward
first
saw
police
interview
all
city
manager,
hiring
firms
before
you
choose
gov
hrusa.
We
should
not
simply
choose
them,
because
they're
operated
by
former
oven
stand.
Employees
also
police
oppose
ordinance,
135
OH
19.
It
prefers
northwestern
over
Evanston
a
moment
residents.
Since
when
does
the
University
rule
over
us
and
pay
little
revenue
to
the
city,
maybe
they
should
fill
the
city's
budget
hole
with
11
billion
dollars
from
their
endowment
fund.
AB
Also,
we
should
consider
the
citizens
network
for
protection
and
also
have
the
Citizen
Police
Review
Board
run
simultaneously
as
an
experiment.
I
know
miss
Betty,
Esther
and
Karla.
Sutton
are
behind
that.
So
I'd
like
to
see
that
happen
also
is
for
ordinance.
116
OH,
19
I
live
on
Sherman
Avenue
in
the
4th
Ward
as
you
as
you
know,
it
states
the
need
for
additional
metered
parking
on
Sherman
from
they
only
just
north
of
main
to
the
elderly
south
of
Washington.
We
already
have
those
signs
for
residents
from
7:00
and
9:00
during
the
week.
AB
AB
AC
AC
Well,
there
is
no
summary
judgment
in
this
case
you're
supposed
to
consider
the
facts.
There
was
no
parking
study,
no
I,
think
study,
no
impact
study
and
you
know
if
if
they
had
done
that
the
result
might
be
the
same,
but
they
haven't
done
it.
So
we
haven't
carried
their
burden
of
proof
and
there's
really
no
basis
to
approve
it.
Thank.
AD
Hello,
City
Council,
my
name
is
Kathleen
Quinn
I
live
at
22:27,
Harrison,
we've
been
there
for
about
twenty
years.
We
are
big
fans
of
Nu
were
season
ticket
holders.
However,
we
are
adamantly
against
the
requests
that
the
university
is
made.
Not
only
have
they
not
made
their
case
they're
not
being
held
to
the
same
standard
that
I've
seen
as
a
resident
for
twenty
years.
If
I
want
to
do
something
for
my
house,
I
have
to
do
all
kinds
of
things
all
kinds
of
documentation:
I,
don't
see
the
university
being
held
to
that
same
standard.
AD
We
are
just
behind
Green,
Bay,
Road,
so
anytime,
there's
an
event
at
the
university
that
has
like
a
Welsh,
Ryan,
sighs
crowd.
You
can't
drive
down
central
that
impacts,
access
to
Evanston
Hospital
and
now
that
st.
Francis
is
no
longer
delivering
babies,
it's
the
primary
level,
one
Hospital
in
the
area.
There
are
two
fire
stations
on
Central
Street,
the
one
by
the
golf
course,
and
you
know
where
they
are
and
what's
the
other
place.
Oh
sorry,
Three
Crowns.
It
also
impacts
access
to
Three
Crowns.
So
we
are
against.
It.
AD
A
AE
Hi
I'm
Ted
Pickett
I
live
at
26
39
Broadway
I've
only
lived
in
Evanston
for
three
years,
but
I'm
very
proud
to
live
in
this
city.
I've
always
wanted
to
live
here.
I.
Thank
you
all
for
your
time
tonight
and
your
careful
consideration
of
the
northwestern
issue.
I
am
here
to
speak
against
it
and
I
feel
very
strongly
that
the
process
that
the
City
Council
is
undergone
in
this
area
has
not
really
lived
up
to
the
standards
that
we
should
strive
to.
I.
AE
Think
a
lot
of
people,
including
Alderman
rebel,
have
really
well
articulated
the
ways
that
the
university
has
not
been
held
to
the
standards
that
are
normally
required
for
these
types
of
requests.
I
think
we've
been
a
little
I,
don't
want
to
say
tricked
but
I
think
kind
of
lulled
with
nice,
powerpoints
or
promises,
but
that's
not
the
way
that
these
type
of
requests
should
go.
The
burden
is
on
the
University
and
I.
Don't
think.
AE
We've
asked
them
to
provide
enough
I
think
that
in
some
cases,
I
like
the
idea
of
saying,
let's
try
things
I
think
there
have
been
good
example
of
things
that
we
needed
to
try
to
discover
that
they
were
very
valuable
endeavors.
But
in
this
particular
case,
I
think.
The
best
argument
that
was
made
is
that
there's
not
a
different
standard
for
projects
that
have
a
two-year
sunset
period,
they're
not
held
to
a
different
standard,
but
I
think
we
are
holding
it
to
a
different
standard
because
we
feel
comforted.
AE
AF
Man,
3004
Normandy,
place
I'm,
so
disappointed
in
plan
commission
for
not
following
the
standards
set
forth
in
our
laws
and
policies
in
the
Planning
and
Development
Committee,
for
choosing
to
ignore
our
zoning
laws
and
the
issue
of
precedent,
as
well
as
the
interest
of
the
residents
I'm,
so
disappointed
in
councilmembers.
Who
said?
Oh,
we
heard
from
both
sides.
AF
No,
you
heard
a
few
statements
from
people
for
it,
including
awful
lot
from
people
who
live
in
every
single
day
and
are
telling
you
why
they
are
opposed
and
why
it
is
harmful
to
our
community
and
ultimately
to
our
city.
My
biggest
concern,
however,
is
the
process.
I
know:
alderman
roux
Simmons
try
to
make
some
accommodation
for
the
neighbors,
but
really
they
were
shut
out
from
a
fair
presentation
of
their
position
from
the
opportunity
to
effectively
utilize
expert
witnesses
that
they
hired
to
educate.
AF
All
of
you
about
the
facts
of
the
matter,
not
about
opinions
as
to
what
would
happen
to
property
values,
but
about
knowledge
from
expert
witnesses.
The
community
tried
weeks
ago
to
ascertain
how
much
time
they
could
have
whether
or
not
we
could
do
a
PowerPoint
presentation
to
visually
show
you
the
impact
that
this
decision
is
having
on
our
community
and
we
got
the
runaround.
AF
Ultimately,
we
found
out
recently
that
we
would
have
maybe
five
minutes
to
northwestern's
ten.
It's
not
alderman
Simmons
through
Simmons
fault.
This
is
the
way
this
council
operates
and
it's
just
wrong.
It
is
absolutely
long
and
I
think
it
is
critical
that
each
of
you
figure
this
out
and
find
a
way
to
make
it
an
opportunity
for
citizens,
because
what
has
happened
today.
Thank.
A
AF
That
you
have
positioned
the
City
Council
and
elected
officials
as
a
voice
against
your
own
residents
and
have
opened
yourself
to
a
lawsuit.
That's
going
to
put
a
protracted
and
very
nasty
relationship
between
us
and
all
of
you,
and
that
is
just
wrong
and
it
is
not
only
against
the
laws
of
the
city.
It
is
against
the
very
nature
of
our
community.
So
I
ask
you
all
to
reconsider.
Thank.
A
AG
City
Councilmembers,
first
of
all,
I,
have
totally
changed
what
I'm
gonna
say,
because
it's
so
late
in
the
night,
I'm,
tired
and
my
brain
is
just
left.
I
would
like
to
say
in
regard
to
the
Montessori
School
Thank
You
mayor
for
your
comment,
I'm
in
agreement
with
what
you
said
and
especially
Rob
Andrew
Simmons.
Thank
you.
I
was
at
an
event
at
the
fleetwood
Jourdain
Center
and
I've,
been
in
Evanston,
since
I
was
about
6
or
7
years
old.
AG
AG
It
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
city
of
Evanston,
but
it
does
President
Trump
was
in
the
city
of
Chicago
and
I'm
upset
about
his
disparaging
remarks
against
the
superintendent
of
the
police
and
I
would
like
to
say
that
I
support
him.
I
support
his
comments
and
not
Trump.
The
superintendent
and
I
have
a
message
for
President
Trump,
and
it's
on
the
back
of
my
sweater
and.
X
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
Jackie
and
before
you
walk
out
the
door
just
so
you
know
we
are
doing
an
interior
improvement
of
Fleetwood
Jourdain
and
that
is
that
is
underway.
So
alderman
roux,
Simmons
myself,
city
staff
have
all
been
working
on
that.
So
that
is
that
is
coming
and
we
hope
by
I
don't
know
in
Charm
City
manager
early
next
year.
We
hope
to
have
that.
AG
AH
Hi
I'm
Lynn
Bednar
I'm,
the
owner
of
Walsh
natural
health,
which
is
about
three
blocks:
west
of
Northwestern's
facilities,
athletic
facilities,
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
54
Central
Street
businesses,
which
have
signed
a
petition
against
the
proposed
zoning
change.
First
and
foremost,
we
don't
see
the
benefit
to
the
community
of
the
proposed
change.
AH
Evanston
already
hosts
many
cultural
and
entertainment
events
in
more
appropriate
locations,
I'm
told
that
there
are
locations
on
Northwestern's
campus,
where
concerts
or
other
events
can
be
held
that
are
not
being
utilized
presently,
as
a
as
a
business
owner
in
Central,
I
can
firmly
state
that
Northwestern's
events
caused
a
decline
in
business
and
hence
sales
tax
dollars
to
the
city.
I
would
invite
the
people
earlier
tonight
who
stated
that
these
types
events
of
events
do
not
cause
a
negative
impact
on
businesses
to
visit
the
Central
Street
businesses.
AH
Before,
during
and
after
Northwestern's
events,
you
could
shoot
a
cannon
through
some
of
our
businesses
on
the
days
where
there
are
events,
our
customers
need
to
have
access
to
our
stores
and
they
need
to
be
able
to
park
when
they
get
there.
Both
of
these
things
are
an
issue
with
current
events
that
are
already
happening
so
the
situation.
The
problem
is,
the
situation
is
already
tenuous
and
we're
just
adding
to
the
pile
here
in
the
past.
We
could
have
count
on
people
coming
on
different
days.
AH
You
know
so
before
it
wasn't
as
much
an
issue,
but
now
with
the
advent
and
prevalence
of
the
Internet,
that's
not
the
case.
Those
sales
are
many
times
permanently
lost.
You
know
right
now,
you
know,
while
the
city
would
benefit
from
the
ticket
tax
I
fear
that
they
would
I
hope
that
the
city
would
also
factor
in
the
loss
of
sales
tax
dollars.
That
may
be
more
permanent.
Thank.
I
AH
A
AI
Everybody
once
again
for
those
of
you
who
were
at
P
and
D,
sorry
to
be
back
up
here,
but
I
thought
you
had
some
good
comments
during
discussion
and
I
wanted
to
just
address
some
of
them.
One
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
talk
about
was
the
issue
of
precedent.
It
is
not
you've
heard
that
word
a
lot
tonight,
but
it's
not
just
the
danger
that
northwestern
will
try
to
take
the
engine
go
for
a
mile
when
it
comes
back.
AI
It
actually
has
to
do
with
all
of
you
facing
demands
from
organizations
in
your
wards
who
will
say
to
you
northwestern
is
a
private
nonprofit
theoretically
entity
if
they
have
facilities
and
you
have
let
them
commercialize
and
monetize
those
facilities.
We
want
to
do
the
same
thing.
Ymca.
We
have
a
parking
lot
back
of
our
building.
Why
can't
we
sell
cars
every
weekend?
It
might
seem
strange
to
think
that
a
church
or
temple
in
your
neighborhood
would
decide
to
open
a
bar,
but
that
kind
of
thing
of
let's
go
into
commerce,
because
everybody
needs
money.
AI
All
of
these
organizations
need
money,
but
is
that
the
right
thing
to
do?
They're?
Really
opening
up
zoning
into
fruit
of
more
of
a
Wild
West
thing
when
you're
not
looking
at
the
standards
that
apply
to
that
kind
of
use.
The
university
you
to
use
it's
there
for
collegiate
activity.
If
that's
why
it
was
created,
and
that
is
really
what
it's
intended
for
the
same
way
that
the
institutions
in
your
neighborhoods
are
the
zoning,
for
them
is
intended
to
make
sure
that
they
can
do
their
mission
in
harmony
with
the
neighborhood.
AI
A
V
I'm
speaking
in
my
capacity
as
chairman
of
the
Preservation
Commission
I'm
speaking
to
the
1040
Hinman
solar
panel
project,
that's
a
potential
appeal
tonight.
I
just
want
to
very
briefly
run
you
through
the
process
of
the
Commission,
followed
in
denying
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
this
project.
The
Commission
makes
the
conservative
effort
to
approve
solar
panel
projects.
I
think
that
the
applicant
shows
other
projects
we've
approved
and
I.
Think.
V
Certainly
in
my
time
and
the
Commission
we've
approved
the
other
four
or
five
solar
panel
projects
that
have
come
before
us,
we've
certainly
been
looking
at
this
issue.
Continue
to
do
so,
we
passed
a
rule
the
summer
that
allowed
staff
to
administrative
Lea
proved
solar
panels
that
weren't
visible
from
the
front
of
the
house
and
we're
meeting
with
the
city's
sustainability
officer
in
November
to
try
to
really
figure
out
how
to
best
balance,
preservation
and
sustainable
energy
concerns.
V
Nonetheless,
in
reviewing
solar
panel
projects
that
are
visible
from
the
front
facade,
we
do
have
to
look
at
our
ordinance,
which
requires
us
to
determine
whether
the
proposed
work
is
compatible
with
the
feature
size,
scale,
proportion,
massing,
color
materials
and
character
of
the
property.
Our
Evanston
preservation
ordinance
also
refers
us
to
the
National
Park
Service
standards
and
the
National
Park
Service
standards
actually
give
several
examples
of
solar-panel
projects
that
are
permissible
and
impermissible.
V
Generally,
the
National
Park
Service
standards
state
that
that
projects
that
are
visually
obtrusive
that
are
very
visible
from
the
front
of
the
house
should
be
disapproved.
The
city
of
Chicago
has
also
adopted
standards
and
those
standards
actually
similarly
say
that
projects
should
not
be
approved
that
are
visible
from
the
front
of
the
house.
In
this
particular
case,
we
did
ask
the
applicant
if
they
would
be
willing
to
scale
back
the
project,
so
is
less
visible
from
the
street.
The
applicant
declined
I
think
with
good
reason.
V
I
mean
the
the
way
the
houses
can't
the
roofs
are
configured.
The
panels
that
are
the
most
visible
are
those
that
would
produce
the
most
solar
energy
just
due
to
the
way
the
roof
face.
None
of
the
commissioners
felt
this
particular
decision
was
an
easy
decision.
It's
certainly
a
particular
case
that
reasonable
people
could
disagree
about
we've
approved.
Most
of
these
projects
in
the
past
will
approve
most
of
them
in
the
future.
V
A
A
AJ
AJ
Just
like
people.
Someone
brought
up
earlier
people
near
the
high
school
have
their
well.
We
I
bought
near
in
the
stadium.
I
knew
there
was
gonna,
be
45,000.
People
there
are
seven
times
a
year:
I
knew
there
was
gonna,
be
seven
thousand
people
there
eighteen
times
a
year
and
are
the
things
people
if
I
bought
near
the
high
school
and
I
used
to
live
near
a
school
I
knew
there
was
gonna,
be
kids
running
up
and
down
you
buy
what
you
expect.
You
expect
your
city
to
have
adhere
to
its
owning.
AJ
So
the
difference
is:
is
this
is
a
complete
different
use?
It's
not
just
a
text
a
moment
and
I
would
contend
that
it
is
in
the
up.
Amendment
and
I
asked
for
a
definition
of
the
difference
between
a
map
and
a
text,
amendment
from
our
city,
and
you
know
what
I
got
back.
There
is
no
definition,
so
I'm,
looking
at
it
and
I'm
saying
well,
I.
AJ
Look
at
our
summary
zoning
is
this
in
this
thing,
and
I
only
see
four
places
in
this
entire
city,
where
that
kind
of
use
is
permitted
in
their
downtown
districts,
their
commercial
district,
its
research
park
district,
those
allow
for
indoor
outdoor
commercial
uses
if
you're
going
to
take
a
non-professional
amateur
this
area
and
turn
it
into
a
commercial
use.
I
think
we
should
be
talking
about
doing
it
the
correct
way.
AJ
A
AK
Don't
like
repeating
myself
so
I'm
running
out
of
things
to
say,
because
I'm
here
every
two
weeks
but
I
do
have
a
couple
of
new
things,
one
the
comments
earlier,
that
I
heard
about
Evanston,
High
School
and
the
congestion
and
parking
issues
there
this
evening
at
plan
and
development.
I
actually
did
a
parking
analysis
and
evaluation
of
their
parking
compared
to
their
basketball
arena
and
they
have,
on
a
per
part,
/
arena
seat
basis.
They
have
almost
twice
as
much
parking
as
a
northwestern
for
their
basketball
arena.
AK
I
didn't
bring
the
slide
to
show
you,
but
I
have
it
at
home.
If
you
want
to
see
it.
Second
point
I'd
like
to
clarify
the
math
about
the
types
of
events
that
really
create
issues
they're
the
ones
I
think
that
we're
all
speaking
about
are
the
ones
where
there's
the
parking
lots
fill
up
after
about
3,500
to
4,000
people,
because
that's
all
the
spots,
they
have
it's
any
event,
that's
bigger
than
3,500
to
4,000.
That
is
the
issue
for
us,
not
the
little
ones,
not
the
the
concerts.
AK
The
student
concerts
that
only
attract
1,700
people
from
what
I've
heard
I
don't
even
know,
they're
there
to
be
honest
with
you,
because
it's
too
small
and
but
about
to
create
congestion
and
parking
issues
for
us.
But
when
you
look
at
the
math
and
you
clarify
the
math,
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
tell
you.
The
actual
number
of
events
that
they're
allowed
to
have
35
going
to
13
is
misleading.
It's
very
misleading.
AK
When
you
look
at
the
events
as
Eleanor
Ravel
told
us
earlier,
they're,
really
only
two
or
three
temporary
events,
not
35
and
they're,
on
the
biggest
one
is
2500
people,
so
they're
good
events
number
one
and
they
don't
attract
enough
people
to
create
congestion
or
parking.
So
what
we're
really
going
to
we're
really
going
from
is
zero
temporary
events
with
3500
people
we're
going
from
zero
to
13.
It's
a
big
change.
Those
are
the
ones
that
caused
the
problems
we
have.
We
don't
have
those
kind
of
events,
just
temporary
events.
A
W
Again,
I
want
to
reiterate
and
support
what's
been
said,
this
whole
entire
discussion,
including
earlier,
but
especially
now,
and
it
really,
we
didn't
you
think
about
it
and
I.
Look
back
just
take
a
step
back,
really
we're
talking
about
zoning
issues
that
and
code
and
enforcement
issues
based
on
revenue,
not
necessarily
outcomes
or
inequities
that
occur.
You're.
W
If
you
had
a
you
know,
scratching
your
finger
or
something
you
had
to
tell
everyone
in
the
whole
neighborhood
sort
of
zoning
and
it
went
to
it
deteriorated
into
you,
had
no
recourse.
No
one
was
listening
to
you.
You
have
consequences
that
are
either
predictable,
which
would
kind
of
indicate
something
wasn't
done
right
or
unpredictable,
because
the
nature
of
the
person
is
not
as
reliable
as
you
thought
and
again
that
mirrors
what
the
discussions
are
about.
Northwestern,
where
are
they?
Are
they
with
us?
Are
we
with
them?
W
W
AL
Got
evening,
mr.
mayor
and
aldermen,
my
name
is
Mary
trees,
stop
I,
live
at
26,
27,
Broadway
and
I
wanted
to
give
you
my
personal
experience
this
weekend
for
the
Iowa
game.
I
went
out
an
hour
before
the
game
and
stood
at
the
corner
of
Broadway,
which
is
one
black
east
of
Green
Bay
Road.
As
central
at
that
corner.
We
had
two
law
enforcers.
We
had
two
people
at
Green,
Bay
Road.
We
had
three
at
Eastwood
and
four
at
Ashland
and
central.
AL
We
had
no
parking
an
hour
before
the
game.
Our
little
neighborhood
east
of
Green
Bay
Road.
There
was
no
parking
left.
We
had
people
still
coming
into
the
neighborhood
couldn't
find
parking.
On
top
of
that
we
had
a
shuttle
from
Kingsley
and
Dewey
schools
that
was
coming
down.
Broadway
north,
we
didn't
have
a
crossing
guard
or
an
extra
person
at
that
corner
of
Broadway
in
central
and
the
police
officers
were
doing
the
best
they
could.
During
that
time
we
had
eight
or
nine
cars
laying
up
on
Broadway
Avenue.
AL
We
are
across
from
Mayday
auto
those
people
because
we
closed
popular
made
it
a
bike
rack.
Those
people
were
jaywalking,
we
had
nobody
to
stop
the
people
to
and
when
the
cars
were
in
that
this
is
the
biggest
thing
the
cars
were
always
in
the
crosswalk,
so
the
people
were
now
walking
into
the
street.
AL
We
also
had
some
issues.
I
asked
the
police
officers.
When
do
you
come
on
duty?
They
say
they
come
on
about
it
an
hour
before
game
starts
and
they
leave
right
at
kickoff,
and
then
they
don't
show
up.
We
have
no
evidence
in
police
or
north-western
presence
until
a
half
an
hour
at
the
end
of
the
football
game,
they
will
come
back
down
site
if
there's
a
problem.
Well,
we
had
a
blowout
on
Saturday,
a
lot
of
people
were
leaving
and
we
had
no
place.
AL
We
had
those
bike,
rickshaws
going
down
the
street
in
our
emergency
lanes.
We
had
soft
person,
jumping
the
sidewalk
and
backing
up
to
go
the
opposite
way
down
central
street.
No
police
presence
and
I
want
to
just
do
my
thing:
I've
been
a
commandant
of
police
officers
that
work
that
day,
because
at
Eastwood
and
at
Broadway
the
motorists
were
not
listening
to
the
police.
They
would
say
turn
right
turn
right,
so
we
need
this
traffic
study.
AM
Right
Thank,
You
alderman
suffered
in
and
all
the
other
woman
Ravel
for
listening
to
your
constituents,
Thank
You
alderwoman
win
for
upholding
our
zoning
code.
How
many
times
are
we
going
to
allow
developers
and
private
corporations,
bring
crazy
ideas
before
City
Council,
which
ask
for
so
many
variances
that
the
resulting
project
completely
runs
roughshod
over
our
zoning
code?
How
many
times
are
we
going
to
grant
a
zoning
change
for
these
developers
and
private
corporations?
AM
Tonight
we
saw
Northwestern
University
attempt
to
present
their
argument
for
a
text
amendment
with
not
enough
to
show
how
these
they
met
the
standards.
The
burden
of
proof
is
on
them.
Let
me
remind
you
what
Northwestern
University's
motto
is:
Philippians
4:8.
Finally,
brothers,
whatever
is
true,
whatever
is
noble.
Whatever
is
right,
whatever
is
pure,
whatever
is
lovely.
Whatever
is
admirable
if
anything
is
excellent
or
praiseworthy.
Think
about
such
things?
How
noble
admirable
praiseworthy?
Is
it
to
encourage
city
council
to
disregard
our
local
laws?
That
is,
that
is
our
zoning
code
or
our
codified,
comprehensive
plan.
AM
I
should
be
dismayed
that
the
Planning
and
Development
Committee
did
not
follow
what
the
codified
2,000
city
of
Evanston
comprehensive
general
plan
states
and
moved
forward.
The
Northwestern
University
request
for
zoning
change,
but
I
am
not
surprised
with
some
of
you
who
seemed
to
have
no
respect
for
our
city
plans
or
zoning
code.
I
have
told
you
this
before,
but
I
guess
I
have
to
remind
you.
The
2000
city
of
Evanston,
comprehensive
general
plan
was
cited
and
relied
on
by
the
Illinois
Appellate
Court
in
2015
as
a
codified
plan.
AM
Tube
district
have
told
I
have
told
you
tonight
that
they
would
see
adverse
effects
like
decreased
property
values
and
increased
traffic,
vehicular
and
pedestrian
congestion
in
the
neighborhoods
I
hope
you
uphold
our
zoning
code
and
ultimately
do
not
support
Northwestern
University's
request
for
zoning
change,
be
a
text
amendment.
Thank
you.
D
So
before
I
started,
I
just
want
to
applaud
all
of
them
Ravel.
Thank
you
all
aldermen
suffered
in.
Thank
you
very
much
all
than
win
for
their
observations,
their
clearer
observation
and
statements
to
the
effect
that
northwestern
has
not
met
their
burden
if
they
haven't
met
their
burden
from
day
one,
and
yet
this
process
keeps
evolving.
So
what
are
the?
What
our
citizens
to
think
is
really
going
on
and
mayor
I
have
to
correct
you.
D
The
text
amendment
for
Northwestern
is
a
zoning
change.
Everybody
knows
it's.
A
zoning
change
changing
from
a
non-profit,
University
use
to
a
for-profit,
professional
sports
and
professional
entertainment
venue.
That's
a
zoning
change
northwestern
did
not
meet
their
burden.
They
didn't
have
to.
It
seems
it
seems.
Maybe
the
deal
was
done
some
time
ago.
Obviously,
meeting
the
standards
is
optional
for
Northwestern
I.
D
D
D
A
A
AN
You
very
much
for
this
opportunity.
My
name
is
Richard
Katz
and
I
live
at
27:38
Garris,
and
it
is
at
it's
on
the
north
side
of
Evanston
Hospital,
Isabella
Street
runs
east
and
west,
basically
making
the
south
end
of
here.
The
north
end
of
garrison
also
sort
of
box
canyons
so
on
football
days
and
other
big
event
days.
It's
very
difficult
to
get
into
my
house
after
a
football
game,
I've
spent
12
minutes
and
by
sometimes
I
measured
and
sometimes
I
get
so
mad.
AN
I
can't
twelve
minutes
just
trying
to
get
from
the
canal
to
garrison.
So
I
can
turn
south
I'm,
not
even
going
as
far
as
Ridge
to
get
to
my
house,
but
I
don't
want
to
make
this
a
personal
issue.
I
want
to
talk
about
some
of
the
issues
that
other
speakers
have
have
mentioned
that
my
particular
issue
is
actually
something
that
I
bought
into
when
I
bought
my
house,
but
I'm,
really
speaking
against
the
proposal
by
Northwestern
to
intensify
the
activities
that
are
taking
place
on
the
YouTube
portion
of
the
seventh
Ward.
AN
First,
I
hope
that
the
council
will
recognize
almost
50
years
of
consistent
judicial
and
legislative
precedent
on
this
matter,
all
of
which
has
upheld
the
city's
right
to
determine
the
character
of
its
neighborhoods
and
right
now
we
are
talking
about
changing
in
a
significant
way
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
you'll
hear
about
businesses
that
have
signed
petitions
against
it.
You'll
hear
from
as
the
Planning
Committee
did
earlier,
Chamber
of
Commerce,
saying
71%
of
the
businesses
in
Evanston
support
the
change
their
arguments
both
ways.
AN
One
big
issue
is
that
Northwestern
has
presented
dollar
figures
in
the
slideshow
that
tell
us
how
much
Evanston
is
going
to
benefit.
The
one
piece
that's
missing
for
me
is
what
is
the
benefit
for
northwestern
I
have
not
heard
a
compelling
need
expressed
by
mr.
Davies
and
his
colleague,
whose
name
I'm
sorry
did
I
forget,
but
I
haven't
heard
why
northwestern
is
requesting
this?
AN
C
C
Try
all
right,
I'll,
try,
okay,
so
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
northwestern
proposal.
Everybody
said
what
I
what
I
wrote
down
the
text.
Amendment
of
zoning
change
did
not
meet
the
burden
of
proof
expert
testimony
from
director
of
appraisal
review
mr.
Richter,
who
stated
that
it
would
absolutely
have
a
negative
impact
on
surrounding
property
and
it
does
not
meet
zoning
guidelines.
So
you
are
refusing
to
listen
to
the
residents
who
are
affected
and
I
thought
the
City
Council
was
there
to
represent
its
residents
Network
against
us.
C
This
reminds
me
of
another
building
that
you
probably
forgot
about
it's
at
pitner
and
Dempster.
That
was
built
without
a
valid
zoning
approval.
Okay,
and
we
did
ask
our
alderman
for
an
impact
study
which
he
did
forward
to
city
manager
and
apparently
city
manager
said
we
couldn't
afford
that
impact
study
to
see
how
that
building
would
affect
surrounding
properties.
So
we
we
have
several
problems
with
that
building
and
I.
C
A
C
So
Saturday,
even
though
it
was
a
short
turnout,
low
turnout,
I
think
that
we
made
some
progress
in
and
allowing
your
whoever
allowed
the
verbage
to
that.
That
comment.
That
public
comment
was
intended
to
foster
dialogue.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
thank
you
for
starting
that
dialogue
on
Saturday.
Thankfully,
we
can
figure
out
how
to
how
to
work
that
in
to.
A
U
Q
Q
Anyway,
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
did
say:
seventy
one
percent
I
think
but
not
of
business.
They
said
a
neighborhood
was
for
it.
Well,
I've
walked
the
neighborhood
since
May
several
hours
a
day
lost
ten
pounds
over
it
by
the
way
dawn
to
dusk
and
I've,
collected
857
to
date,
859
signatures
there's
another
700
online
and
60
businesses,
one
more
today,
so
I
don't
see
how
it's
been
70
percent
were
before
it.
No,
the
neighborhood
is
against
this.
Q
Q
The.
What
one
thing
is
that
we
cannot
trust
Western
well,
as
of
today
northwestern
again
says
things
that
are
not
true.
They
are
not
thousand
five
hundred
parking
spaces.
The
1359
trash
and
litter,
as
you
can
see,
is
not
all
picked
up.
Well,
shrine
arena,
supposedly
they
said,
can
do
events
now
that
they
couldn't
do
before
no
maga
hall
had
concerts,
but
you
know
that's
more
magnitude
than
they
have
now
and
then
another
thing
regarding
city
services,
I
snowplow
my
own
property.
Q
I
pay
the
electric
to
gas
and
the
water
on
my
own
property
and
I
pay
for
the
line
repair
for
those
things.
So
why
is
it
any
different
from
Northwestern
just
because
they
bring
in
service
tax,
every
business
and
every
property
owned
now
brings
it
to?
And
that
is
not
an
excuse
for
changing
the
zoning
ordinance
and
not
upholding
the
zoning
code
that
we
have
now
understand.
A
N
Hi
good
evening
mr.
Wittenberg
I'm
here
to
address
Mary
your
statement
that
you
issued
on
October
15th,
which
I
really
liked
about
free
speech
and
I,
want
to
start
on,
say
that
I
agree
with
you
wholeheartedly
that
everyone
up
here.
Everyone
in
this
room
has
a
right
to
free
speech,
as
does
the
Supreme
Court
that
was
determined
in
1968
pickering
versus
Board
of
Education.
You
none
of
you
know.
Employees
relinquish
your
rights
as
public.
N
They
say
public
employees,
but
it's
applicable
to
you
that
you
would
otherwise
enjoy
as
citizens
and
commenting
on
matters
of
public
interest.
Freedom
of
speech
is
sacrosanct.
The
First
Amendment
protects
all
of
us
from
arbitrary
government
exercise
of
power.
That
would
restrict
our
rights
to
speak
freely
about
matters
of
public
concern,
but
where
you
can
limit
speech
time
place
manner,
you
cannot.
Those
streets
cannot
favor
some
speech
or
speakers
over
others
as
further
provided
by
the
Supreme
Court.
A
government
must
either
prescribe
all
speech
or
no
speech
at
all
so
mayor.
N
It's
your
authority
to
impose
and
apply
those
restraints
at
our
council
meetings
at
that
meeting
that
your
statement
addressed
in
particular
speech
and
speakers.
Critical
of
government,
specifically
your
resolution
to
censor
that
Clerk
were
constrained
in
90
seconds
or
censored
by
content.
You
granted
unlimited
unconstrained,
an
uncensored
speech
for
every
speaker,
who
is
supportive
of
your
resolution,
and
if
we
include
the
one
public
commenter,
he
had
twice
as
long
and
I
thought
I'm,
not
totally
blaming
you
for
that.
N
But
so
that's
where
I
sympathized
with
the
complainants
that
you
our
statement
address
but
I
actually
did
also
understand
to
whatever
extent
I
could
alderman
bright
wastes
on
why
you
would
feel
compelled
and
I'm
not
turning
this
around
on
you.
This
is
sincere
why
you
would
feel
compelled
to
speak
out
about
feeling
personally
aggrieved
on
behalf
of
yourself
and
and
your
fellow
council
members,
who
would
feel
similarly
about
being
implicated
in
in
perpetrating
a
heart
but
like
a
terrible
social
harm
that
you
are
personally
harmed
by
and
I
understood
that,
because
that
happened.
X
N
I
went
up
to
speak
in
a
similar
implication
situation
about
Alderman
Wilson
statements.
You
literally
silenced
me
I,
requested
after
debate
was
over.
You
could
have
given
me
any
other
time
in
the
meeting
time
place.
Manner.
Restraints
have
to
apply
to
every
speaker
has
to
be
even-handed,
where
there
are
exceptions,
they
don't
exist
here
in
that
way.
So
I'm
hoping
that
you
can
tell
me
the
compelling
government
reason
that
was
behind
that
are.
A
So
we
have
procedures
here
in
Evanston
and
those
procedures
allow
for
the
public
to
get
up
and
provide
public
comment.
It's
the
dialog.
It's
not
back-and-forth.
When
that
concludes.
We
then
go
into
the
agenda
when
we
go
into
the
agenda.
Is
the
councilmembers
opportunity
to
debate
to
discuss
these
issues
and
that
meaning
that
you're,
referring
to
you
jumped
up
and
you
wanted
to
come
to
the
podium
and
you
wanted
to
speak
I
said
no.
You
can't
come
to
the
podium
and
speak.
So
that's
what
you're,
referring
to
it's.
A
Simple
in
terms
of
you
know,
do
people
get
more
time
than
not
time
I
try
to
be
fair
and
impartial.
You
know
I
think
you
could
go
back
and
you
could
look
at
the
record
and
if
you
want
to
get
a
stop
clock
out
and
time,
every
single
person
that
got
up
there
you'd
find
some
that
you
know
got
more
and
some
that
got
lesser
we're
right
on
time.
A
L
N
N
N
When
people
are
disparaged-
and
you
say
you
can
talk
at
the
next
couple
of
public
meeting-
I
was
you
know
in
the
group,
but
I
was
also
personally
defamed,
and
if
anyone
wanted
to
keep
me
from
having
my
a
viewpoint
heard,
they
just
have
to
keep
defaming
me
two
weeks
later,
I
come
back.
I,
don't
get
two
comments
because
I'm
its
suppression,
its
silencing
and
supposed
to
oppression,
so
the
same
rule
applies
whenever
any
of
us
speak
as
individuals
to
defend
any
of
our
points
of
view.
N
If
you
let
other
people
speak
as
individuals
to
defend
themselves
immediately,
you
cannot
make
us
wait
two
weeks
to
be
in
front
of
a
different
crowd,
different
context
and
limit
what
we
can
talk
to
so
I'm
not
going
down
until
you
can
tell
me
the
constitutional
compelling
reason
that
my
speech
was
censored.
Order
is
not
sufficient.
I.
A
A
N
AO
N
AO
AO
N
I
A
A
N
N
Seconds
you
all
orchestrated
against
vine,
every
bit
of
evidence,
and
some
of
you
guys
already
know
this
I
have
like
300
pages
of
evidence.
You
need
to
table
that
and
you
need
to
table
it
because
it's
going
to
come
out,
you
guys
know
where
the
evidence
is
in
some
ways
and
don't
tell
me
there
are
things
I
don't
know
because
you
guys
are
like
corrupt
out
of
your
minds.
N
If
you
knew
all
of
this
and
you
went
through
I
want
to
make
sure
all
of
you
are
comfortable
enough,
that
you
have
enough
information
to
ruin
someone's
life
and,
if
you're
not,
then
please
start
investigations.
Someone
put
a
motion
forward
to
table
that
item
and
to
look
into
it.
If
any
of
you
have
any
decency,
you
don't
feel
a
hundred
percent
sure
that
you
had
the
right
and
authority
to
do
that.
You
need
to
do
something
about
it.
Thank
you
and
Mayor.
You
are
involved
with
that.
Thank.
A
One
question
for
the
city
attorney
special
orders
of
business:
if
we
can,
we
go
through
the
consent
agenda
as
we've
started,
or
do
we
have
to
take
some
book
to
hold
on
that?
What
I
like
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
just
go
through
the
consent
agenda,
we'll
remove
the
items
that
are
going
to
be
removed
and
that
I'd
like
to
go
ideally
and
take
this
special
order
of
business.
A.
AO
A
A
P
Business
a
this
is
an
application
for
appeal
to
the
city
council
of
preservation,
Commission's
decision
denying
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
four
of
them.
Sorry,
1040
him
and
Avenue
to
install
18
solar
panels
on
the
roof
and
the
City
Council
has
the
option
to
make
a
motion
to
accept
the
application
for
appeal.
If
a
motion
is
made
and
adopted,
the
council
shall
affirm,
modify
or
reverse
the
decision
within
45
days,
so
in
other
words,
we
either
choose
to
accept
or
not
accept
to
appeal
tonight
and
then
we'll
make
a
decision
later.
P
A
AP
One,
the
concerns
about
consistency
in
the
preservation,
Commission's,
application
of
the
standards
for
review
of
alterations,
and
then,
secondly,
I
think
it's
really
raised
some
very
interesting
issues
for
us
to
think
about.
How
do
we
harmonize
our
preservation,
ordinance
with
our
carp
goals
and
so
I'd
like
to
make
sure
we
have
an
opportunity
to
talk
about
all
that.
AP
A
L
Sorry
I
was
out
of
the
room
and
I
didn't
hear
all
this,
but
I
would
like
us.
I
would
like
us
to
accept
the
appeal
and
then
hear
it
and
I
think
I
heard
the
the
second
half
of
what
alderman
Ravel
said
and
I
agree
with
that.
We
really
need
to
have
some
kind
of
rethinking
of
solar
panels,
given
what
we're
facing
with
climate.
AQ
Well,
I'm
going
to
vote
not
to
accept
the
appeal,
although
I
agree
that
we
need
to
have
a
discussion
with
the
Preservation
Commission
about
about
our
goals
and
I
think
that
discussion
should
happen
prior
to
allowing
the
homeowner
to
go
ahead
with
these.
With
these
panels,
they
can
always
reapply
okay.
A
H
A
Alright,
so
the
application
for
appeal
to
the
City
Council
Preservation
Commission
decision
denying
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
10:40
him
an
avenue
to
install
18
solar
panels
on
the
roof.
This
appeal
has
been
accepted
by
the
Evanston
City
Council
and
a
7
to
2
vote
city
staff
will
set
up
another
day
for
us
to
hear
that
appeal
of
the
City
Council
to
hear
that
appeal.
So
thank
you
item
being
special.
AR
G
P
P
P
A
The
meetings
November
25th,
all
right
next
item
is
the
fiscal
year
2020
in
2021
proposed
budget
discussion.
This
is
for
discussion
this
evening
for
those
of
you
watching
out
in
the
audience.
So
we
had
a
meeting
this
past
Saturday
two
days
ago
on
the
2019
and
2020
and
2021
budget.
We
test
the
interim
city
manager
and
her
staff
with
several
requests
for
analysis
and
budget
Momo's,
not
surprising
that
they
haven't
been
produced
over
there
over
the
weekend.
So
we
don't
have
them
today.
So
Melissa's.
A
An
objection
I'd
propose
that
we
resume
this
conversation
on
the
budget
at
our
next
meeting,
which
would
be
the
November
11th
meeting
that
sound
okay,
okay.
So
this
do
I
need
to
motion
to
table
a
discussion
all
right.
Thank
you
all
right!
So
we're
just
gonna
move
and
we'll
have
this
discussion
I'll,
be
on
the
agenda
for
November
11th,
all
right,
we're
not
gonna
move
to
the
consent
agenda,
Alma
Braithwaite!
If
you
could
take
us
through
the
minutes
and
then
the
APWU,
it
would
be
great
sure.
J
AO
AO
AO
Our
committee
items
see
the
first
amendment
Howard
Howard
enriched
tax,
increment
financing
district,
that
was
for
action,
and
we
voted
to
keep
that
on
file
item.
D
was
the
approval
of
the
sole
source
agreement
with
all
Toofer
power
systems,
to
provide
repairs
for
high
lift
number
for
natural
gas
engine
item
is
resolution
96
artist,
19,
accepting
the
grant
award
to
fund
congregate,
senior
meal
program
at
Leavey,
Center
and
Fleetwood
Jourdain
Community
Center
item
F
is
resolution.
AO
AO
Item
H
is
Resolution
117,
R,
19,
intergovernmental
agreement
with
the
noise
Department
of
Health
Care
and
Family
Services
to
provide
greater
cost
coverage
for
ground
emergency
medical
transportation
provided
to
beneficiaries
of
the
Illinois's
medic
using
Medicaid
plans
and
other
similar
state
administered.
Medical
programs
and
an
item
is
ordinance
144
0.
Nice.
Excuse
me
please
yeah
they've
removed
at
the
request
of
all
of
them
suffered
in.
AO
That's
the
request
of
Alderman
Revell
item
K
is
ordinance
98
0,
19,
amending
the
city
code,
title
3,
chapter
31
regarding
the
regulation
and
collection
of
boxes.
That's
for
introduction
item
L
is
ordinance
129
su
and
s
19
amending
the
city
code,
section
1,
17,
1,
purchases
of
goods
and
services.
This
is
also
for
introduction.
AO
This
ordinance
will
allow
for
the
current
purchasing
limiting
limit
threshold
to
move
from
20
to
25,000
audience
m
is
excuse
me:
M,
ordinance,
124,
no
19,
sale
of
surplus
property
fleet
vehicles,
that
is
for
introduction
at
action
and
I,
think
Alvin
Fleming.
You
made
a
request:
a
committee
to
allow
for
staff
to
explore,
allowing
for
our
city
staff
and
other
residents
and
in
the
follow
from
alderman
Simmons
to
allow
for
vehicles
to
be
sold
to
small
businesses
as
well,
so
they're
going
to
come
back
to
our
committee.
AO
AO
Thank
you
item
n
is
ordinance.
92
do
19
amending
the
portions
of
the
city
code.
Title
tend
to
permit
ebikes
and
implement
requirements
for
bike
share
companies
operating
in
Evanston.
This
is
for
action
item
always
ordinance.
96
sco
des
19
amending
the
city
code,
section
4,
2
2
to
update
the
gender
neutral,
neutral
restroom
requirements.
AO
That's
for
action
item
P
is
ordinance.
100
0
19
authorizing
the
city
to
borrow
funds
from
the
Illinois
Environmental
Protection
Agency
Water
Pollution
Control
Loan
Program
staff
is
recommending
that
approval
of
the
ordinance
and
that's
for
the
protection
I
PA
in
the.
Let
me
finish
reading
this.
The
ordinance
authorizes
a
city
to
borrow
up
to
1
million
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars.
That
service
will
be
paid
by
the
sewer
fund
item
Q
as
ordinance
112
oqr,
an
us
who's.
H
AF
A
AP
H
B
A
AO
City
Council
like
to
move
item
I,
which
is
ordinance
144
geo,
19,
approving
and
authorizing
the
insurance
sale
not
to
exceed
issuance.
Thank
you.
It's
late
sale
of
not
to
exceed
of
Series
2019
a
in
series
2019
be
Cara,
Valley,
Montessori,
School
of
the
city
of
Evanston,
Illinois
authorizing
the
execution
and
delivery
of
a
bond
loan
agreement
and
other
documents
related
thereto,
authorizing
the
sale
of
said
bonds
to
fifth
third
and
a
and
approving
related
tariff
tephra
hearing
care
volley,
conduit
financing.
It's
there,
a
second.
F
So,
what's
your
pleasure,
do
you
all
want
to
set
a
number?
Do
you
want
to
make
an
amendment?
How
do
you
want
to
do
this,
for
you
I
just
vote
with
no
conduit
fee,
because
you
think
it's
being
brought
late,
I
mean
I
would
like
to
propose
that
we
added
a
conduit
fee
will
grant
us
back
November,
11th,
but
I
know.
Is
that
mess
up
your
schedule?
I?
Don't
think
we
should
doing
this
for
free.
F
L
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
I
think
that
weekend
we
should
attach
a
fee
to
any
of
these
going
forward,
but
these
bonds
have
been
in
process
for
quite
some
time
and
I.
Don't
believe
that
adding
this
I
understand
that
this
is
coming
to
certain
members
of
the
council
for
the
first
time,
but
I
don't
think
adding
this
on
to
Carvalho
Montessori
School
at
this
time
is,
is
appropriate
and
I
am
NOT.
L
Certain
I
had
a
brief
conversation
with
them,
but
I
don't
know
that
adding
a
fee
of
ten
thousand
dollars
on
to
this
will
allow
them
to
continue
to
move
forward
with
this.
So
I
would
prefer
not
to
do
this,
but
I
certainly
would
support
requiring
a
fee
for
every
other
one
that
we
do
going
on
in
the
future.
Okay,.
P
I
I
agree
with,
but
I
also
appreciate
that
alderman
suffered
and
didn't
identify
the
opportunity
for
the
fee
here.
I.
Do
you
think
we
should
include
that
in
our
policy
and
procedure
going
forward?
Certainly
the
past
practices
I
think
kind
of
lulled
us
into
just.
You
know,
accepting
that
you
know
we
do
get
the
costs
reimbursed.
We
get
to
get
our
tourneys
fees,
so
it's
we're
not
losing
money,
but
staff
is
putting
time
forward,
so
my
preference
would
be
to
go
ahead
and
proceed
with
this,
but
do
do
that.
R
H
L
L
You
know
I
recognize
that
we
and
I
agree
that
we
should
attach
a
fee
going
forward,
but
I
do
think
if
we're
gonna
study,
best
practices
and
other
communities
that
I
don't
think
that
that
we
should
penalize
Cara
Valley,
because
we
are
just
discovering
this
now
I
mean
they've
they.
This
is
their.
This
is
a
refinancing
they've
done
this
twice
before
with
us.
They
were
not
expecting
this.
L
K
Find
me
yes,
Ron
also
to
add,
in
terms
of
time
frame,
first
I,
totally
respect
where
you
guys
are
coming
from
with
fee
totally
understand
where
you're
coming
from
with
that.
In
terms
of
the
time
frame,
it
takes
months
to
get
all
the
paperwork
and
all
the
legal
things
done
for
the
bond
financing,
and
it
takes
multiple,
multiple
attorneys
to
do
that.
K
The
other
day
we
had
something
like
eight
attorneys
working
on
something,
so
the
cost
first
school
is
pretty
astronomical
when
you're,
just
talking
about
all
the
legal
fees
so
to
have
to
go
through
those
whole
process
again
would
definitely
impact
our
time.
We
would
not
have
time
to
go.
Do
some
another
plan,
if
that's
what
they
took
it.
Thank
you
for
your
concern.
I.
G
H
J
Real
quick-
and
you
know
what
this
is.
This
is
tough,
because
we
we
should
not
him
all
due
respect
to
you
all.
We
should
not,
as
a
city,
probably
taking
on
things
where
we're
increasing
staff
load
I
mean
we've
laid
off
a
lot
of
staff.
We
all
talk
about
our
staff
and,
being
you
know,
overextended
even
than
the
regular
jobs,
not
that
this
is
not
part
of
their
job,
but
my
point
being
that
this
is
something
that
staff
had
to
work
on
and
we
should
respect
their
time.
We
should
also
respect
that.
J
That's
time,
they're
not
working
on
other
things
which
the
taxpayers
are
gonna
benefit
from
or
need.
So
I
don't
want
to
put
you
all
in
a
pickle,
because
you
have
done
what
we
asked
you
to
do,
I
think.
In
my
opinion,
this
is
more
of
a
reflection
of.
Unfortunately,
we
maybe
didn't
think
about
how
to
do
this
a
little
better
before
you
guys
got
here
in
the
ninth
hour.
So
that's
you
know
a
little
bit
of
a
burden
on
us.
P
A
AP
A
A
We'll
just
take
what
we
got
a
this
item
was
moved
and
was
seconded
it's
a
city
clerk.
If
you
could,
please
take
the
role
on
ordinance,
144,
0,
19,
approving
and
authorizing
the
issuance
of
the
sale
not
to
exceed
of
series
2019
8,
Series,
2019
B
for
the
care
of
Olli
Montessori
School
of
the
city
of
Evanston
Illinois,
authorizing
the
execution
delivery
of
a
bond
loan
agreement
of
the
documents
related
thereto
and
authorizing
the
sale
said,
bonds
to
the
Fifth,
Third
Bank
and
approving
related
tephra
hearing.
Okay.
AF
A
AO
Mayor
I
have
members
of
City
Council
I'd
like
to
move
item;
J
ordinance,
20,
zero,
19
amending
the
title;
1
chapter
10
city
of
Evanston,
code
of
ethics
and
Board
of
Ethics.
The
members
of
the
ethics
subcommittee
recommended
adoption
of
this
ordinance,
20
geo,
19
amending
the
city
code,
title
1,
chapter
10,
city
of
Evanston,
code
of
ethics
and
Board
of
Ethics
and
Board
of
Ethics
rules.
This
is
for
introduction
here.
A
second.
AP
As
I
was
rereading
the
draft
in
our
packet
I
I
noticed
there
was
a
change
and
I
couldn't
remember
that
we,
it
was
something
we
talked
about.
It
was
it's
on
page
376
of
our
packet,
it's
it's
H,
something
age,
appearances
and
so
then
the
new
version
says
no
covered
person
except
elected
officials.
So
that's
the
wording.
No
covered
person,
except
elected
officials,
shall
appear
on
behalf
of
or
against
any
private
party
before
any
city
board
or
Commission,
and
so
I
was
just
I.
AP
AP
P
P
AP
P
AR
AR
AR
A
J
So
I
would
like
to
I,
have
a
well
I,
have
something
I'd
like
to
have
at
it.
So
in
reading
the
plan
commission
meeting
when
it's
from
the
Preservation
Committee
for
the
pennmen
project
and
reading
the
notes
from
that
I
realized
that
one
of
the
commissioners
abstained
in
its
vote
and-
and
there
was
no
reason
given
so
be
it
I
guess
here
in
the
ethics
poor
because
of
the
Rules
Committee
for
council
that
wouldn't
apply.
I
would
like
us
to
update
this
to
reflect
that.
If
a
commissioner,
you
know
border
commission
person
wants
to
abstain.
J
So
I
think
we
need
to
I
mean
we
have
that
rule
I
believe
here
at
Council
that,
if
you're
up
staying,
you
need
to
say
why
so
I
think
we
need
to
be
correct
across
the
board
that
that
needs
to
happen.
So
I
guess
I'd,
like
to
make
an
amendment
that
that
is
added
to
our
ethics
code
would
be
the
appropriate
place
for
it
to
be.
P
AQ
I'm
wondering
if
the
issue
about
abstention,
if
that
should
also
appear
in
the
rules
of
the
individual
committees,
because
I
think
it's
it's
very,
very
clear
that
I
mean
we
followed
the
rules,
but
I,
don't
I.
Don't
think
some
of
the
committee's
understand
them
and
use
that
as
an
easy
way
of
not
making
a
decision
which
we
all
have
to
make.
R
A
A
AR
A
I
agree:
I
mean
if
that
I'd
say
if
Albany
Wilson's
written
these
down,
why
don't
we
just
do
the
amendment
into
it
and
then
we'll
pass
it
for
introduction
and
you
guys
can
add
it
to
the
next
version.
We
say:
let's,
let's
just
do
this,
just
keep
it
in
order,
I!
Guess
all
right,
Alderman
Wilson!
Do
you
want
to
make
an
amendment
so.
P
R
J
P
AP
P
A
Right,
sir
SEC
of
marine,
did
you
have
anything
or
okay,
so,
second,
to
that
motion,
amendment
motion.
Okay,
all
in
favor
aye
any
opposed.
Okay,
so
I
move
that
we
introduced
it
as
amended.
Okay,
is
there
a
second
all
right,
City
Clerk?
Could
it
take
the
roll
please
on
Jay
ordinance,
20
0
19,
amending
amending
the
city's
code
of
ethics
and
Board
of
Ethics?
Yes,.
A
AO
A
J
Sam,
it's
still
my
birthday,
I
I,
don't
I'm
not
against
parking,
but
I
am
gonna
vote.
No.
For
this.
For
the
same
reason,
I
voted
last
time,
which
was
you
know.
I've
now
noticed
in
certain
areas
near
transit.
We
have
meters
in
certain
areas,
new
transit.
We
do
not
have
meters,
we
did
not
do
the
parking
study
a
couple
years
ago.
You
know
my
concern
is
we're
doing
these.
You
know
one
kind
of
one
street
at
a
time
it
just
kind
of,
depending
on
what
side
of
the
tracks
you
live
on.
A
AD
A
F
L
Yes,
this
does
been
a
benefit.
We
have
two
commercial
buildings
on
the
corner
of
South
Boulevard
and
Chicago
Avenue
one
is
happens
to
be
a
law
office
that
is
very
busy.
It's
a
Nevison
resident
whose
law
practice
used
to
be
in
Northbrook
and
he
is
practices
real
estate
law.
So
he
frequently
has
closings
in
his
in
his
office
and
then
the
next
building
over
is
a
commercial
building,
and
it
has
two
commercial
tenants
in
it.
L
There
by
South
Boulevard
is
filled
with
commuter
parking,
because
the
south
side
of
South
Boulevard
is
free
and
it
is
filled
with
commuters,
starting
about
7:00
7:30
in
the
morning
and
the
lot
1.
We
have
plans
for
a
lot
one
and
that
really
would
not
help
the
potential
clients
coming
to
these
two
commercial
buildings.
So
I
have
requested,
with
at
the
request
of
several
of
these
businesses
that
they
have
parking
meters
installed,
so
that
one
the
city
makes
money
to
enhance
their
business
experience
and
we
also
retain
them
as
businesses.
L
So
this
brings
revenue
to
the
city,
helps
our
several
local
businesses
and
the
commuters
will
just
walk
a
couple
more
blocks
for
that
and
I'm
happy
to
look
at
making
parking
around
our
transit
centers
more
more
similar
to
each
of
them,
but
at
South
Boulevard.
It's
an
unusual
situation
so
that
that
those
are
the
businesses
alderman,
raining
almond,
Fisk,.
A
B
A
AO
L
B
A
H
A
R
A
H
Ordinance
126
a
19
allowing
cannabis
dispensary
certain
zoning
districts,
the
Plan
Commission
and
staff
recommend
adoption
of
ordinance,
126,
Oh
19,
allowing
cannabis
dispensaries
and
certain
zoning
districts.
This
ordinance
will
update
the
zoning
ordinance
to
create
a
definition
for
a
cannabis
dispensary
business
established,
applicable
general
provisions
for
cannabis
dispensaries,
including
a
1500
foot,
separation
requirement
between
dispensaries
and
a
750
foot
separation
requirement
from
schools
and
amend
the
special
uses
in
the
business,
commercial,
downtown
research
park
and
special
purpose
and
our
overlay
zoning
districts.
This
is
for
action.
It's
here.
A
second.
AQ
AQ
Okay,
be
what
the
b1
district
in
our
zoning
ordinance
says,
to
promote
and
preserve
small-scale
limited
shopping
and
business
uses
that
serviced.
The
neighborhoods
in
which
the
business
uses
are
located.
Use
uses
share
common
characteristics
such
as
relatively
small
storefronts,
built
to
the
front
lot
and
provide
limited
services.
No
individual.
You
should
exceed
7,500
square
feet
in
size,
so.
AO
P
Thank
you,
and,
and
and
in
looking
at
the
map,
the
Ottoman
fists
could
raise
some
concerns
about
certain.
You
know,
I
guess,
neighborhood
concerns
and
for
the
most
part,
the
be
ones
are
kind
of
taken
out
from
proximity
to
schools
in
any
events.
So
I
think
this
really
is
not
a
significant
impact
as
far
as
the
change
to
the
ordinance
and
it
doesn't
affect
the
existing
one,
so
I
would
know
it's
appointing
an
okay.
P
H
Be
and-
and
so
my
next
question
is,
there
are
the
social
equity
licenses
that
are
to
be
approved,
I
believe
in
May
and
I
understand
that
those
are
designated
okay.
What
I
don't
understand?
Are
they
designated
for
targeted
areas
or
do
the
residents
need
to
be
residents
of
targeted
areas
to
apply
for
the
social
equity
license
and
because
there
are
quite
a
few
neighbors
of
mine
that
are
looking
to
pursue
this
as
a
business
opportunity?
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
not
supporting
something
that
would
limit
the
community.
AR
G
R
AO
A
AS
So
there's
a
few
spots
where
p1
is
its
and
in
talking
to
alderman
Fisk
after
the
meet
last
meeting
and
looking
at
the
map,
b1
really
is
in
locations
that
are
kind
of
pocket:
small
they're,
they're,
more
neighborhood
surveying
they're
there.
So
there's
someone
simpson,
there's
a
few
few
on
noise.
Simpson
he's.
A
Okay,
so
any
more
any
more
discussion
on
that.
Has
everybody
clear
on
that?
Okay,
so
we
had
an
amendment
that
was
moved
and
seconded
all
in
favor
of
the
amendment
aye
any
opposed,
no
okay.
The
motion
itself
was
moved
in
second,
and
so
it's
City
Clerk.
You
please
take
the
role
in
ordinance,
126,
0,
19,.
AL
J
A
J
J
I
pulled
this
off
I
plan
to
vote
no
I.
However,
I
will
say
that
the
I
guess
not
the
version
we
have
in
our
packet,
but
the
version
before
it
was
amended.
I
approved
of
the
version
in
the
packet
I
do
not
support
because
of
things
like
the
clause.
Let's
put
back
in
there
for
the
confidentiality
policy
for
people
who
are
going
to
apply
I'm.
Sorry
I,
don't
have
it
open,
but
there's
one
more
thing
in
there,
but
it
attention
essentially
I
think
it's
too
restrictive
on
the
citizens.
J
I
think
the
things
that
they're
talking
about
they'll
talk
about
it
in
public
and
a
public
meeting,
then
they
can
go
into
executive
session,
which
has
the
same
company
jelly
rules
that
we
are
under
and
then
they
come
out
and
they
continue
their
conversations.
So
having
the
confidence,
geologists,
confidentiality
clause
or
whatever
we're
calling
it
in
there
I
think,
makes
it
more
restrictive
and
in
the
area
we're
trying
to
make
sure
people
understand
that
we
do
hold
our
police
accountable
into
a
high
standard.
A
AG
A
AP
AP
Revell,
yes,
we've
had
at
least
two
well
tabeling
motions
where
we've
tabled
it
not
to
a
specific
council
meeting,
but
rather
to
the
occurrence
of
a
particular
event.
I'm
thinking
of
the
ultimate
Wilson's
motion
about
Harley
Clark,
a
number
of
many
months
ago,
where
he
tabled
it
or
got
tabled
to
win
the
state
of
Illinois,
adopted
a
budget
or
something
so
I
guess.
AP
I
would
suggest
that
we
add
another
phrase
to
this,
so
the
matter
may
be
table
to
a
later
point
in
the
same
meeting
or
to
a
specific,
subsequent,
regular
council
meeting
or
until
the
occurrence
of
a
specific
event.
So
it
still
makes
it
specific,
but
it
doesn't
say
we,
because
how
can
we
know
what
council
meeting
we
might
have
in
mind?
It's.
P
AP
AP
It's
actually
a
more
recent
one
where
I
tabled
I
tabled
the
motion
about
approving
the
sale
of
alcohol
at
welsh
ryan
arena,
because
we
did
not
yet
know
what
was
going
to
be
happening
in
with
regard
to
the
zoning
amendment.
So
I'm
not
tabeling
it
to
a
specific
council
meeting
a
certain
council
meeting,
but
rather
to
the
occurrence
of
that.
Well,
I,
don't
know
the
occurrence
of
an
event
ie
the
approval
of
the
amendment
to
do
whatever
we're
gonna
do
with
you
to
district
well.
V
B
As
a
parliamentary
procedure
note,
a
motion
to
table
under
our
current
rules
can
be
brought
up
at
any
subsequent
meeting,
and
maybe
corporation
council
can
help
just
clarify
this
Oh
No
water
spilled.
It's
fine,
nothing
good
happens
after
midnight
is
what
water
spill
better
than
last,
so
we
did
within
the
Open
Meetings
Act
an
alderman
cook
table.
You
know,
for
example,
the
Harley
Clarke
issue
and
bring
it
up
at
a
subsequent
meeting.
AR
You're
not
ready
to
discuss
it,
you
would
just
into
the
record
just
continue
it
to
another
meeting
like
let's
say
you
know
for
the
example,
the
liquor
you
would
have
said
it
for
let's
say
the
second
make
any
meaning
in
October.
If
that
meeting
comes
up
you're
not
ready
to
discuss
it,
you
could
continue
it
to
a
future
meeting
and.
B
X
AR
B
P
P
If
nobody
moves
to
take
it
off,
the
table
stays
there
for
them.
Just
some
and
then
probably
you
know
you
don't
want
it
to
stay
there,
for
you
probably
want
things
off
and
then
dealt
with
I
would
think.
So
that's
so
I
support
the
change
for,
for
those
reasons,
I
think
we
should,
you
know
not
have
it
turn
so.
A
All
in
favor
of
that
change
all
opposed
all
right,
so
it
seems
like
the
oppose.
Has
it
on
that
one?
So
this
is
a
resolution,
so
we
can
take
a
I.
Do
need
a
role.
I
thought
I
could
do
police
okay.
So
this
is
what's
that
okay
and
we
have
a
mushroom
from
alderman
Wilson
second
or
by
alderman.
Will
in
this
resolution,
99
our
19
amendment
of
the
City
Council
rule
18,
point
6
motion
a
table
and
item
all
in
favor
aye
any
opposed
okay.