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A
Within
there,
within
their
sectors,
so
within
the
business
area,
Raja,
Sosa
and
Paula
co-chair
and
yet
Annie
and
Kathryn
are
involved
in
it
and
then
there's
a
bunch
of
different
sub
working
groups
in
in
that
same
with
the
nonprofit
community.
The
whole
idea
is
crushed
us
to
push
information
down
from
the
Emergency
Operations
Center,
which
we
stood
up
on
March
17th
I'm
part
of
the
unified
command
of
that.
So
it's
for
us
us
to
push
information
down.
So
people
understand
you
know
what
the
latest
is
and
then
for
information
to
come
up
about.
A
You
know
major
issues
or
concerns
that
we
need
to
start
to
subtract
and
try
to
address
at
the
Emergency
Operations
Center.
We
made
that
comment
before.
Like
you
know,
if
your
plan
is
somebody
else
going
to
save
you,
you
don't
have
a
plan,
that's
not
to
say
that
we're
not
busting
our
tails,
trying
to
get
money
from
the
county
or
get
money
from
the
state
or
whatever
we
can
to
help
with
economic
development
or
mental
health
or
physical
health.
Here
in
Evanston
we're
trying.
A
But
just
like
you
all,
you
know
we
have
certain
challenges,
and
so
one
of
those
when
it
comes
to
the
money
side
of
things
is
the
feds
in
the
cares
Act
that
they
created
set
aside
150
billion
for
local
governments
but
capped
it
at
local
governments
over
five
hundred
thousand
people.
Obviously,
that
leaves
out
the
vast.
A
Local
governments,
because
they're
only
five
hundred
thousand
people,
but
it
means
the
state-
has
some
money.
The
county
has
some
money,
there's
some
real
restrictions
that
the
US
Treasury
put
on
that
money.
Initially
they
thought
they
could
use
that
money
to
cover
a
revenue,
loss
and
Treasury
was
very
clear.
You
cannot,
it
has
to
be
koban,
19
related,
and
so
you
know,
I
am
spending
a
lot
of
time
on
the
phone
with
legislators
and
others
trying
to
make
the
case
like
don't
keep
all
the
money
to
yourself.
Try
to
send
some
down
to
us.
A
Congress
is
working
on
another
potential
allocation,
I'm,
not
holding
my
breath
on
that
one
I,
don't
think
it's
gonna
come
anytime,
quick
and,
and
so
we're
all
looking
for
either
some
kind
of
some
kind
of
relief
or
anything
like
that.
I
know
that
this
is
a.
This
is
a
painful
painful
time
for
everybody.
A
There
is
nobody
that's
unaffected
by
this,
but
we
all
know
that
there
are
people
that
are
more
adversely
affected
than
others,
and
you
know
my
my
hope
in
this
meeting
or
expectation.
This
meeting
is
to
get
a
real
good
understanding
of
a
how
this
you
know.
Event
is
affecting
each
of
you
be
under
understanding,
recognizing
that
no
one
is
unaffected
by
this
and
that
no
one,
no
one-
is
going
to
be
made
whole
from
this
from
this
recovery
that
we're
all
in
this
together.
A
You
need
to
help
one
another
to
the
extent
that
we
can-
and
you
know,
I'm
interested
to
hear
about.
You
know
what
kind
of
help
that
you've
been
able
to
provide.
Okay,
to
the
extent
that
you
can
your
your
attendants
through
this
really
difficult
difficult
time,
you
know
I
think
we'd.
All
agree
like
you
are
critical
to
to
Evanston
right
you're,
your
major
property
owners.
Here
you
have
residents
in
those
properties
or
you
have
businesses
in
those
properties.
A
You
know
many
of
those
businesses
create
the
essence
of
Evanston
and
we
don't
want
to
lose
that
none
of
us
want
to
lose
it
because
if
we
lose
it,
if
we
leave,
if
we
think
about
businesses
here
retail
level,
restaurant
level,
businesses
that
create
the
essence
of
Evanston,
if
they
go
under
it's
bad
for
all
of
us
all
right.
It's
bad,
for
this
is
bad
for
the
city
yeah.
A
We
don't
have
the
tax
revenue,
it's
bad
for
the
landlord's,
because
you
don't
have
the
the
rental
revenue
and
it
potentially
gets
really
bad
if
it
drives
our
property.
Our
property
values
down
so
I
have
I,
have
a
request
of
all
of
you
in
that
request.
I
think
some
of
you
are
already
fulfilling
it
and
sort
of
working
on
this.
Just
as
as
good
you
know
sort
of
empathetic,
you
know
business
business
owners
is
you
know
to
work
with
your
tenants,
these
smaller
businesses
that
again
people
know
about
them.
A
A
If
somebody
points
out
somebody,
that's
made
completely
whole,
you
know
I'll
be
surprised,
even
in
my
business
I'm
in
the
business
of
emergency
management,
we
help
governments
respond
to
we
prepare
for
respond
to
and
recover
from
disasters.
That's
what
we
do
and
even
we
have
uncertainty
in
our
business,
even
though
we're
busy
working
the
disaster
around
the
country
in
New,
York,
City
in
Florida
and
California
and
other
in
other
places,
we
have
had
other
projects
come
to
a
complete
halt.
A
I
doubt
that
they'll
even
resume
again-
and
you
know-
and
it
was
a
lot
of
it-
was
a
lot
of
money
and
and
so
we
had
some
people
that
are
on
the
beach
and
not
and
not
charging
your
client
because
they
were
set
aside
or
working
on
that
project
and
we're
trying
to
direct
them
to
new
to
new
projects.
So
even
I
think
that
some
of
those
businesses
that
you
look
at
say,
oh
well,
that
they're
gonna
do
okay,
even
some
of
them
again
have
had
an
abrupt
change
to
sort
of
their.
A
A
As
hard
as
we
can
to
to
try
and
get
some
aid
from
the
county
or
the
state
and
and
if
we
have
any
locally
again
we're
challenged,
because
our
revenues
are
way
down
as
well,
but
to
make
them
available
to
try
and
help
help
the
small
businesses
here
and
here
in
town,
so
anyway,
I'm
looking
forward
to
the
conversation,
I'm
gonna,
I'm,
gonna,
listen
in
and
and
take
some
notes
and
follow
up
with
Paul.
Thank
you.
A
E
A
E
F
We
thanks
a
lot
Paul
and
thanks
a
lot
for
everybody
for
participating
today.
You
know
the
mayor
asked
us
to
put
together
a
business
working
group
as
part
of
his
task
force.
We've
been
focused
primarily
on
three
areas.
We
were
looking
for
focused
on
advocacy
early
on
trying
to
make
sure
that
the
elected
officials
had
an
idea
of
the
kinds
of
needs
that
we
had
in
the
community
and
that
what
our
businesses
needed.
F
We
spent
a
lot
of
time
trying
to
make
an
impact
on
the
legislative
process
and
then
understand
the
outputs
of
that
the
PPP
loans
and
things
like
that
and
communicating
all
of
that
to
our
members
trying
to
make
sure
they
were
well
educated
on
what
their
options
were
financially
here
within
this
disaster.
So
of
what
we
have
done,
we've
been
working
on
that
we
kind
of
feel
that
that
area
now
is
sort
of
kind
of
been
paused.
You
know
those
loans
are
out
there.
F
People
have
applied
they've
either
gotten
or
they
haven't
gotten
them,
and
now
we're
focused
very
much
on
the
recovery
aspect
of
this
and
where
we
go
from
here
and
our
goal
is
to
provide,
through
a
lot
of
different
kinds
of
resources,
online
classes,
a
partner
with
Northwestern
among
a
couple
of
things
that
we're
looking
at
to
provide
support
and
technical
resources
for
those
businesses
to
get
themselves
back
on
their
feet
and
get
them
going
again.
So
really
we're
focused
on
a
lot
of
your
tenants.
F
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
make
sure
that
they
come
back
in
a
way,
that's
safe
and
sustainable
so
that
they
stay
in
business
and
they
stay
profitable.
That's
what
we're
looking
for
is:
how
do
we
help
all
of
those
groups
really
find
their
their
their
footing
again,
pivot
and
move
forward
and
hope,
and
that
will
hopefully
help
stabilize
a
lot
of
what
we
see
going
on
right
now,
but
that's
been
the
focus
of
the
group
all.
E
E
You
know
I
kind
of
feel
like
we
saved
the
best
for
last,
we'll
also
talk
with
hotels
as
well,
but
there'll
be
a
different
format.
So
you
know
it's
really
important.
You
you,
as
property
owners,
provide
the
canvas
for
all
of
our
business,
to
succeed
and
literally
by
providing
space
for
them,
and
the
mayor
talked
about
how
our
small
businesses
are
the
essence
of
the
community
and
I
think
he's
right,
I
think
people
think
about
living
in
Evanston,
nice
housing
lakefront.
They
like
the
businesses,
they
like
the
trains.
E
You
know
things
like
that
and
and
you're
a
huge
part
of
that.
So
we
wanted
to
check
in
with
you
to
really
see
how
things
are
going
and
saw
kind
of
the
rules
of
engagement
today,
if
you
want
to
speak
unmute
yourself
or
raise
your
hand
and
I'll
try
to
unmute,
you
and
I'll
call
on
people
to
kind
of
kick
conversations
off.
I.
Don't
have
you
know,
I,
don't
really
have
an
enjoy.
I
do
have
an
agenda,
but
I
don't
have
an
agenda
so
to
speak.
E
I
want
to
hear
from
you
again
because
it's
critical
that
that
you're
able
to
pay
your
debt
service
and
able
to
make
sure
that
our
businesses
are
thriving
so
I
want
to
I
can
can
I
can
I
call
you
out
at
the
moment.
Call
you
on
you.
First
Kent
Kent
Swanson's
in
Evanston
resident
for
those
who
don't
know
him,
but
we
have
like
20
people
on
the
call.
So
if
you
want
to
click
in
the
upper
right
hand
corner
to
see
who's
on
the
call,
a
lot
of
people
aren't
labeled.
E
G
E
E
C
You
know
just
to
give
a
little
further
background.
You
know
where
our
main
property
that
we've
recently
built
is
150.
North
Riverside,
where
William
Blair's
offices
and
actually
Hyatt
corporation's
headquarters
are-
and
you
know
you
think,
of
high
corporation
they've
undergone.
You
know,
tremendous
stress,
you
know,
they've
late,
just
laid
off
was
announced.
You
know,
350
people
just
you
know
this
yesterday
and
they've
had
temporary
furloughs
of
you
know
larger
numbers,
and
you
know,
but
they're
still
a
going
concern
and
they're
paying
their
rent
and
so
that
those
things
have
been.
You
know
going
positively.
C
You
know
I
think
that
from
an
like
an
office
building
with
retail
at
the
base,
you
know
our
our
retailers
are
are
closed,
and
you
know
our
building
occupancy
is
about
one
percent
of
what
it
would
be
normally,
there's
typically
about
four
to
five
thousand
people
in
in
a
1
million
plus
square
foot
building,
and
we
right
now
typically
have
about
a
hundred
people
a
day
in
the
buildings.
You
know
their
buildings.
C
You
know
we
do,
we
are
preparing
to
open
the
building,
I
could
share
with
with
Paul,
and
you
could
kind
of
share
with
you
know
others,
if
that's
appropriate,
we've
been
working
hard
and
some
of
our
you
know
analyzing
what
how
to
open
buildings
properly
and
then
safely.
We
have
the
advantage
of
direct
dispatch
elevators
in
in
kind
of
this
newer
building,
which
enables
you
to
limit
the
number
of
people
on
an
elevator,
for
example,
we're
implementing
a
thermal
scan
technology
in
the
lobby
that
can
pick
out
someone
who
has
a
fever
over
a
standard.
C
The
CDC
standard
is
a
hundred
point
four
and
better
above
that
standard.
Then
they
cannot
enter
the
building,
and
so
there's
array
of
things
in
that
area.
Were
you
know,
increasing
touchless
systems,
we've
already
had
touchless,
you
know
water
and
toilet
operation,
but
you
can
do
more
doors,
touchless
put
it
in
hospital
style,
foot,
pedals
and
things
of
that
nature
and
we're
looking
at
changing
some
things
in
our
HVAC
systems
to
kind
of
put
in
essentially
a
virus
killing
system,
it's
using
electricity
to
wipe
out
microscopic
virus
and
biologic
particles.
C
It's
called
bipolar
ionization
that
can
be
retrofitted
into
you
know
into
buildings.
So
those
are
the
kind
of
things
that
we're
doing
trying
to
stay
in
front
of
it.
A
lot
of
our
tenants
are
then
putting
in
you
know,
partitions
and
other
things
to
you
know
kind
of
create,
more
separation,
you're
changing
the
operation
of
their
kitchenettes
and
their
spaces.
So
there's
a
lot
of
tenant
based
things
that
we
don't
get
into
is
the
landlord,
because
the
tenant
controls
their
space
Paul.
E
Right
I
think
that's
helpful,
I
invited
you
know.
What's
on
the
line,
he's
converting
820
Davis
I
have
work
to
learn
a
couple
other
things
too.
So
you
know
he
I
think
the
things
you
shared
are
pretty
relevant
for
what
wills
working
on
I
invited
Gallup
and
his
team
I
know
if
anybody's
on
the
line
for
1603
orient
in
will.
If
you
have
any
thoughts
on
that
and
they
will
kind
of
get
to
a
broader
discussion
about
kind
of
our
storefront
or
our
street-level
storefront
kinds
of
spaces.
No.
H
I
think
look
I
would
say
that
the
the
budget
that
Ken
has
for
his
downtown
building
is
different
than
the
budget
that
an
average
our
office
owner
in
Evanston
is
going
to
have.
And
oh
the
challenge
of
by
polarization
to
the
HVAC
system
is
going
to
be.
You
know,
different
I
would
say
that
III
do
have
the
benefit
of
sitting
on
the
board
of
a
REIT
that
is
on
national
base
and
I
would
say,
I
think
there
are
two
different
approaches.
H
H
Other
national
groups
are
taking
a
more
personal
responsibility
group,
which
is
probably
where
I
fall
into
is
to
say
you
know
we're
gonna,
put
up
good
reminders,
we're
going
to
put
up
obviously
sensation
stations
and
and
rely
on
the
judgment
of
the
tenants
in
terms
of
their
social
distancing
and
and
what
they
do
in
in
the
building.
But
you
know
certainly
I
think,
there's
a
combination
of
both
operational
and
permanent
structural
changes
that
can
be
put
in
place.
E
Thank
you,
Elba
Monty
can
I,
can
I
pick
on
you
for
a
quick
second
I'm,
just
clicking
on
your
your
red
microphone
button
to
any
interest
enough.
There
we
go.
Thank
you
know
so,
I'm
thinking
how
we
transition.
We
talk
to
kind
of
like
macro,
like
larger
offices
and
your
guys
and
amongst
others
and
I
just
happen
to
see
you
in
the
tile.
Here
we
has,
you
know
quite
a
few
storefront
spaces
and
I
know
you're
working
with
your
tenants.
E
I
E
Think
in
any
annual
apps,
any
spats
will
have
something
to
say
about
this,
but
we're
we
have
the
staff
city
staff
and
Annie
and
Kathryn
got
sick
and
the
merchant
district
leaders.
You
know
we're
concerned
about
how
people
access
spaces
and
I'm
making
them
feel
safe
and
you
know,
is
there
any,
for
you
know
some
kind
of
intervention
or
funding
to
help
with
retrofit.
Like
remember
the
facade
programs.
E
Are
there
ways
that
we
can
help
with
retrofitting
doors
and
things
like
that,
so
they're
things
become
touchless,
but
so
there's
that
aspect
and
also
what
are
you
hearing
from
your
tenants
in
terms
of?
Are
they
paying
rent?
I'm
just
give
us
an
update
on
how
things
are
going
in.
J
The
scale
that
I
deal
with
is
considerably
different
than
the
previous
two
speakers
I
think
you
know
we're
we're
dealing
with
them
very
small
businesses
at
best
some
are
marginally
capitalized.
Let
me
let
me
put
it
that
way.
So
there
are
concerns
right
now,
aren't
even
at
the
point
of
retrofitting
their
spaces.
So
much
as
it
is,
what
are
they
gonna
do
to
reopen
if
they
real,
you
know
short
answer
to
your
question:
are
they
paying
their
rent?
J
Some
are
trying
some
just
simply
can't
and
that's
gonna
be
a
fact
going
forward
until
they're
able
to
reopen
and
even
beyond
that
when
they
do
reopen,
there's
a
lot
of
concern
as
to
what
they
can
expect
when
they
do
reopen.
Some
won't
be
able
to
reopen
clearly
with
the
capacity
that
they
previously
had
60
days
ago,
so
their
their
cash
flow
is
gonna,
be
significantly
impaired.
J
Some
aren't
even
sure
whether
or
not
to
regain
the
employees.
They
hit
a
let
go
so
they're
faced
with
different
issues
at
this
point
and
that
even
I
don't
even
think
that
the
conversations
we've
had
haven't
even
centered
around
retrofitting.
So
much
as
you
know,
what
am
I
going
to
do?
How
am
I
going
to
do
this
so
to
your
point,
I
think
it
would
be
helpful.
You
know
as
a
tool
and
as
a
resource
for
them
to
have
something
to
help
them
on
what
they
need
to
do
to
prepare
their
spaces.
J
I
did
you
know,
I
know
from
the
ones
that
I
deal
with
to
use
a
harsh
term,
but
it's
it's
appropriate
desperation
is
where
they're
at
right
now
and
try
to
understand
you
know
what
tomorrow
will
bring
is
more
important
to
them
than
the
plexiglass
partitions
I.
Don't
even
think
some
of
them
are
thinking
along
those
lines
just
yet
so
we
we
do
need
something
that
bring
them
into
that
category.
At
some
point
in
time,
do.
E
You
think
that
this
comes.
This
is
a
question
kind
of
for
everybody
and
nobody
has
a
crystal
ball,
but
you
know
I've
thought
of
this
in
chunks
of
time
right.
So
there
was
an
immediate
need.
We're
talking
about
30
to
90
days
when
when
do
you
have
a
sense
that
you'll
really
know
what's
going
on,
I
know,
there's
been
some
relief
and
this
could
be
for
anybody,
but
there's
been
some
relief
for
the
federal
government
for
some
and
I
know.
E
J
E
B
B
Maybe
one
has
money
right
now
and
three
have
been
approved
and
I
think
a
lot
of
that
had
to
do
with
my
my
my
users
are
small,
a
lot
of
that
had
to
do
with
them
dealing
with
larger
banks.
Were
you
know
they
just
they
were
virtually.
They
were
just
an
account
number.
They
weren't
a
person
and
I
directed
a
lot
of
them
to
you
know
other
sources,
and
you
know
I
really
don't
know
if
any
of
that
has
transpired.
But
right
now
our
our
rent
has
been
the
same
for
all
of
the
months.
B
The
people
that
were
behaving
badly
and
February
are
still
behaving
badly.
They're
consistent
and
you
know,
I
think,
what's
going
on
right
now,
will
you
know
ecause
those
two
people
to
become
past
tense
in
my
life
so
which
would
which
would
be?
Okay,
it's
probably
not
a
blip,
the
right
thing
to
say
but
I'm
sorry,
that's.
E
Okay,
well,
he
Steven
can
I
call
you
Steve
Morgan
can
I
call
on
you
for
a
quick
minute.
Just
get
yourself.
A
Steven
Steven
owns
two
he's.
Looking
like
he's
trying
on
me.
Let
me
see
if
it
okay
he's
still
muted,
so
I,
don't
when
he
unmute
I'll
call
on
him
again
keep
trying
man
I
was
gonna.
Ask
him
about
his
copycat
tower
in
downtown
Evanston,
see
how
his
office
users
are
doing
so
we'll
come
back
to
that.
E
I
There's
this
here,
I'll
I'll,
throw
in
a
couple
of
so
I'm
with
Transwestern
I
I
represent
landlords,
downtown
various
suburbs,
I
run
the
agency
practice
for
Transwestern
and
our
client
ft
stone
water
owns
one
double-oh-seven,
Church
Street
Evanston,
Metro
Center.
So
one
of
the
you
know
the
big
factors
that
we
see:
downtown
or
million
square
foot
towers
and
the
factors
that
we
see
all
across
the
market.
The
number
one
concern
of
tenants
and
employers
and
the
c-suite
is
safety
and
safety
is
I'm
at
home.
Right
now,
I
feel
safe.
My
family
feels
safe.
I
I
I
do
not
want
to
get
on
a
MetroCard
anytime
this
year
with
65
other
people
twice
a
day,
didn't
go
into
a
million
square
foot
building
where
there
are
either
4,000
people,
or
you
know,
Willis
Tower
15,000
people
I'm,
going
to
five
to
get
there
and
I
think
that
falls
back
on
Evanston
again
a
lot
of
people
from
the
North
Shore
or
from
the
closed-end
western
suburbs.
You
know
just
an
immediate
West
can
drive
to
Evanston
as
well
as
a
few
of
my.
You
know.
I
Our
employees
that
live
in
downtown
Chicago,
most
likely
northern
part
of
Chicago,
could
drive
or
get
there
without
having
to
take
too
much
public
transportation.
So
vacancy
is
an
issue
that
my
landlord,
my
owner
deals
with.
Evanston
deals
with
occupancy.
I
will
tell
you
in
any
given
property
that
we
have
it's
it's
a
mix,
50/50
mix
some
people
have
told
their
employees.
You
can
come
back
whenever
you
feel
comfortable
while
there,
let's
in
January,
July
or
October,
we're
not
going
to
force
you
to
come
back.
We've
kind
of
figured
out
how
to
work.
I
Some
are
saying
we
don't
expect
you
to
come
back
until
January,
in
fact
I'm
not
going
back
to
the
office
in
January.
You
know
that's
too
Google's,
that's
the
twitters!
That's
that's
a
lot
of
people.
That's
Capital,
One
saying
nobody
has
to
go
to
any
office.
You
can
work
out
your
house
for
the
rest
of
the
year.
What
Evanston
needs
is
occupancy
so
that
the
retailer's
the
businesses
can
function
and
profit
from
that.
The
the
one
thing
that
I
would
brainstorm
on
is
parking.
I
How
can
you
make
parking
free
and
accessible
so
that
a
lot
of
these
people
who
have
offices
downtown
could
create
a
satellite
office
in
Chicago
where
people
could
come
and
work
knowing
that
it's
their
car
and
maybe
the
stairs
not
even
an
elevator
getting
into
their
space?
Because
once
you
get
into
your
office
space
again,
you
can
create
that
safe
environment
on
your
own,
because
you're
not
leveraging
off
of
what
the
landlord's
doing
or
what
the
CTA
is
doing
so
kind.
I
I
Provide
parking
and.
E
I
It's
an
eight
eight
story:
office
building,
you
know
15,000
square
foot,
floor
plates,
building,
substantial
East,
Northwestern
or
new
foods
is
our
big
tenants
in
the
building
pretty
well
leased
and
we've
had
some
pretty
good
luck
in
the
last
month
or
two
to
signing
up
some
tenants
and
perhaps
grabbing
a
tenant
from
Morton
Grove
to
come
over
here
in
the
next
week.
So
pure
office
building,
no
retail
yeah.
E
H
Off
that
to
say,
you
know
as
a
community
both
in
terms
of
your
work
as
well
as
our
individual
efforts.
I
think
it's
it's.
It
could
be
time
for
Evanston
from
an
office
occupancy
to
go
on
the
offensive
and
you
know
put
together
or
a
program,
for
you
know
doing
exactly
what
was
just
outlined,
which
is
you
know,
advertise
all
of
those
assets
and
ability
to
have
a
satellite
office.
E
Right
that
all
Steve
in
one
second,
that
also
assumes
that
we
can.
We
can
get
chunks
of
office
space
of
open
or
available
we've
gone
through
a
phase
where
there
wasn't
a
lot
of
contiguous
space
available
for
this.
So
but
who
knows,
that's
going
to
happen,
Kove
a
post
Kovac
if
more
space
will
open
up
on
the
office
side.
E
Steven
now
that
you've
figured
out
the
mute
button,
do
you
want
to
give
a
quick
update
on
you've
got
you've
got
two
challenges:
you've
got
two
vacant
retail
spaces
that
are
pretty
large,
and
then
you
have
the
office
space
at
the
copycat
billing.
What's
your
experience
and
your
muting
again
by
the
way.
K
My
concern
is
with
Starbucks
going
public
today
that
they're
looking
to
renegotiate
with
all
their
landlords
that
it's
going
to
give
a
lot
of
small
businesses
out
there.
The
feeling
that
they
too
should
be
renegotiating
I
mean
you
got
a
major
international
company
that
is
still
very
profitable,
maybe
not
as
profitable
as
they
were.
K
But
you
know
you
had
tenants
retail
tenants
that
have
been
talking
about
it
and
not
paying
rent
and
everybody
expected
that.
But
when
you
have
a
company
like
Starbucks,
it
goes
public
with
what
they're
doing
I
think
it's
gonna
really
cause
a
lot
of
smaller
and
bigger
tenants
to
go
away
if
they're
doing
it.
Why
am
why
am
I
not
doing
it
so
I'm
just
concerned
about
what
that
may
do?
I'm
not
saying
it
will,
but
it
could
must
of
my
tenants,
have
all
been
paying
on
time.
K
So
I
think
there's
a
difference
between
asking
and
needing
and
I
think
it's
important
as
a
landlord
to
try
to
distinguish
that
upfront,
because
two
tenants
talk
to
each
other
and
where
it
spreads
fast
in
terms
of
the
retail
vacancies.
I
did
have
a
couple
one
deal
in
particular
that
was
in
the
works
and
got
pulled
because
of
what's
been
going
on.
I
had
a
couple
of
other
conversations
that
were
going
on
and
they
hit
pause.
E
F
D
C
B
I'm
real
small
vendor,
we
have
250,000
square
feet,
I've
talked
to
everybody,
so
that's
that's
the
way,
I've
handled
it
where
I
said
well,
people
asking
for
relief
and
I
say
well,
you
know,
I
have
to
keep
up
the
building.
I
have
expenses
to
pay
I'm
your
landlord,
not
your
lender
or
a
family
member
or
your
business
partner
and
I've
got
a
good
result
with
that
old-school
technique.
B
What
I
think
what
we
should
be
discussing,
though,
is,
is
what
are
we
going
to
do
two
years
from
now,
because
until
there's
treatment
and
testing,
we
got
nothing
so
to
worry
about
something,
that's
going
to
happen
in
the
middle
of
the
summer
or
fall
we're
jerking
ourselves
off.
So
I
think
what
we
should
do
is
deal
with
reality.
E
G
E
I'm
just
kidding
okay,
so
as
any
I
think
that's
it's
a
good
time.
We've
got,
you
know,
I
hope
we
can
hang
out
for
another
20
minutes
to
a
half
an
hour,
but
my
I
wanted
to
see
because,
like
I
said
a
few
minutes
ago,
I'm
trying
to
break
this
into
chunks
right
we've
got
this
immediate
need
we're
kind
of
transitioning
into
like
the
economic,
reopening
or
reemergence.
And
that's
that's
immediate.
E
That's
happening
60
days
90
days,
and
then
we
get
into
this
phase
where
we're
in
this
mode-
and
you
know
again
no
crystal
ball
but
we're
wearing
masks.
You
know
the
entire
time
get
used
to
this.
We've
got
a
campaign
that
I've
sent
a
link
to
everybody,
recover
Evanston,
where
we're
trying
to
make
try
to
normalize
the
use
of
masks
and
social
distancing,
and
that's
going
to
be
with
us
for
some
longer
period
of
time
and.
E
Does
that
look
like
for
our
for
our
community,
both
as
people
are
afraid
to
go
to
the
office
to
go
to
the
stores
and
as
a
as
I
kind
of
get
used
to
it,
but
then
also,
we
know
that
there's
going
to
be
a
spike
in
vacancies,
you
know,
are
we
gonna
go
from
our
is
it?
Are?
We
gonna
have
a
30,
40
percent
business
failure,
I,
don't
know,
but
that
a
business
failure
equals
a
vacancy?
What
and
I
talked
about
about
this
with
album
on
tape?
What
does
it
look
like
six
months
from
now?
E
G
D
E
K
I
think
Stephen
Rogan
I
think
there
are
a
couple
of
different
things,
one
of
which
you
touched
on
that
that
this
is
an
evolutionary
process.
It's
not
a
linear
process
and
I
think
it's
an
evolutionary
experience
and
process
not
only
for
the
landlords,
because
they're
gonna
be
different
demands
and
different
requirements,
but
it's
also
an
evolutionary
process
for
tenants
and
consumers,
and
so
looking
at
it
in
that,
whatever
36
months
8
months,
12
months,
18
months,
all
of
that's
going
to
evolve
and
things
will.
K
You
know
somebody
would
have
told
you
you
would
have
been
walking
around
with
a
mask
eight
weeks
ago,
you
probably
wouldn't
have
felt
confident,
no
I
didn't
think
it
was
gonna,
be
a
reality
and
I
wasn't
sure.
I
was
gonna,
feel
comfortable
doing
what
doing
it,
and
now
it
is
the
reality
and
it's
part
of
my
you
know.
I
pick
up
my
wallet
I
pick
up
my
mask
and
put
it
in
my
pocket
or
my
coat
so
I
think
it
is
an
evolutionary
process
that
people
have
to
be
whatever
that
work
group
is
understands
it.
B
It's
social
Darwinism,
Darwinism
time,
I,
think
people
are
gonna,
fall
out
I
just
you
know,
you
I
have
no
idea
how
you're
gonna
save
people
unless
there's
a
source
of
funds-
and
you
know
all
the
stuff
so
far
has
given
money
to
about
9%
of
small
business
owners.
That's
not
going
to
do
too
much,
so
you
know
I'm,
not
I'm,
optimistic
about
the
whole
thing,
but
a
short-term.
You
know,
there's
gonna,
be
there's
gonna,
be
blood
and
I.
Think
because
you
know
cash
flow
in
businesses
are
going
to
get
reduced.
B
B
My
focus
is,
is
you
know
how
do
how
do
I
keep
my
patient,
stable
and
the
way
I
keep
my
patient
stable
is
what
I
was
talking
about
earlier,
which
is
you
know,
expanding
the
uses
that
would
work
in
my
properties
without
having
to
screw
around
six
months
and
getting
a
zoning
variation
or
a
special
user.
Anything
else
you
want
to
call
it.
B
I
sort
of
plan
for
this
previously
you
know
sort
of
accidentally,
which
is
almost
every
one
of
my
properties-
has
each
unit
has
a
storefront
kind
of
entry.
So
that
takes
that
stress.
You
know,
out
of
out
of
the
thing
I'm
like
everybody's
saying,
people
have
to
feel
comfortable
well
nobody's
going
to
feel
comfortable
until
there's
treatment
and
testing
and
I
can't
do
that.
B
Okay,
mr.
Farr,
thanks
text
amendments,
it's
real
easy
to
do.
We
did.
We
did
text
amendments
when
we
back
in
2006
with
our
lova
when
there
was
mu
and
mu
e
and
we
created
the
MX
e,
which
was
sort
of
A
mish-mosh,
and
basically
that
that
zoning
designation
is
the
Wild
West.
You
can
do
virtually
anything.
You
damn
well,
please
and
I.
Think
that's
what
we
need.
Let
the
free
market
do
its
thing.
B
K
K
Paul
something
that
I
would
add
to
that
think.
There's
a
I,
often
hear
from
people
when
you
mention
Evanston,
it's
a
long
process
and
it's
an
expensive
process
because
of
again
it's
the
process
and
it's
a
legitimate
process.
I'm,
not
questioning
a
lot
of
that
stuff.
But
time
is
money
for
somebody,
that's
holding
a
mortgage
or
paying
for
plans
and
there's
a
common
feeling
among
people
internally
and
externally.
K
When
you
talk
about
Evanston,
it
costs
a
lot
more
because
of
the
process
to
get
from
point
A
to
point
B
to
to
start
whatever
it
is
you're
doing,
and
so
if
there
are
ways
that
the
the
city
can
look
at
those
processes,
given
the
unique
circumstance,
because
every
month
is
a
lot
of
money
for
people,
whether
it's
a
storefront,
that's
looking
to
get
a
sign
approved
or
it's
a
developer.
That's
looking
to
put
up
300
a
part
units
time
is
money,
and
now
money
is
even
more
scarce
and
more
critical
than
ever.
K
So
as
people
come
in
for
whatever
it
is,
I
think
it's
it
anything.
The
city
can
do
to
expedite
to
give
direction
but
concrete
direction.
Not
yeah
we'd
like
to
see
this,
and
then
you
come
back
and
you
can't
get
through
where
you
have
to
go
because
now
somebody
else
has
a
different
point.
So
the
more
upfront
and
leadership
and
direction
that
people
can
get
it's
concrete
that
they
can
pardon
the
pun,
go
to
the
bank
with
the
better
it's
going
to
be
for
everybody
to
get
through
this
situation
together.
K
B
Thanks
what
part
ring
please,
what
I'm
proposing
is
we
don't
have
to
involve
the
city,
what
we're
doing
and
that's
not
meant
in
a
negative
way.
It's
in
the
book.
If
you
read
the
book,
the
permitted
uses
are
there.
If
you,
if
you
have
the
gumption,
you
go
for
a
special
use,
but
you
you
expand
and
financially
what
you
can
do
by
right.
B
C
I'm
going
to
combine
whether
the
Eric
mentioned
an
opportunity
to
kind
of
whose
satellite
offices
to
do
falafel
demanded,
incremental
and
unique,
and
but
that
has
to
be
hit
very
quickly
because
it's
gonna
it's
going
to
be
here,
for
you
know
18
24
months
and
then
then
vaccines
or
things
may
change
behavior.
You
know
again,
so
that's
where
I
think
you
need
sort
of
this
fast-track
approvals
of
certain
office
permits
or
other
things
to
get
to
get
things
going,
and
so
the
existing
office
spaces
and
kind
of
make
that
no
beat
so
Evanson.
C
E
Do
you
think
that
there's
an
opportunity
for
you
know
my
office,
the
mayor,
maybe
some
others
to
convene
brokers
or
somehow
connect
with
the
world
of
office
expert
to
be
able
to
quickly
identify
those
that
want
to
do
satellite
offices,
so
we
can
make
it
happen
like
I.
Think,
that's,
maybe
something
we
can
add
to
our
smaller
group
list
like.
C
How
do
I
I
would
suggest
that
maybe
further,
you
know,
there's
just
outreach
to
major
downtown
companies
to
see
if
they
you
know,
want
to
put
ten
thousand
feet,
but
it's
also
talking
to
Bill,
and
you
know,
legal
band.
What
have
you
got
you
know?
Could
that
instant
occupancy
and
the
office
side
is
pretty
good.
I.
Think
that
where
the
big
challenge
is
gonna
mean
retail
was
already
having
challenges
and
you
layer
this.
C
On
top
of
it,
I
mean
it's,
it's
is
exceedingly
you
know
difficult
and,
and
you
won't
have
that's
where
I
think
a
lot
of
the
the
blood
going
to
Queenie.
It's
certainly
that
way
in
the
in
the
payment.
You
know
we're
getting
very
good
payment
on
the
off
the
side,
but
you
know
on
the
on
the
retail
side:
it's
been,
you
know,
vastly
worse
performance,
you
know
locally
and
nationally.
Okay,.
E
G
H
D
G
Listening
to
the
conversation,
so
I
guess
to
give
you
my
perspective,
the
people
that
don't
know
me
so
I
own
Goods
and
I
run.
Excuse
me,
I
run
the
store,
but
I
also
have
two
retail
tenants
and
I
I.
Don't
know
that
the
sentiment
among
small
retailers
is
really
understood
amongst
property
owners.
So
what
I
did
for
my
tenants
is
I
told
them
in
March
that
they
didn't
have
to
pay
for
April
in
in
May
that
they
would
pay
we'd.
G
Add
it
onto
the
end
of
the
lease,
because
I
knew
it
was
gonna
take
a
while
for
for
us
to
reopen
and
and
even
when
we
reopen
we're
not
going
to
get
up
to
full
capacity
for
a
long
time.
I
think
that
this
is
going
to
be
it's
going
to
be
six
months
or
a
year
before
we
really
understand
the
shakeout
for
small
retailers,
I
think
they're.
The
programs
that
have
been
offered
to
us
do
very
little
to
actually
support
the
business.
The
Paycheck
protection
program
is
not
the
payer.
It's
to
pay.
G
It's
a
person
receiving
the
check
and
a
lot
of
people
didn't
get
it
I
won't.
Take
you
guys,
through
my
whole
tale
of
woe
about
trying
to
get
financing
for
my
business,
but
it's
it
it's
pretty
much
useless
and
and
then
you
know
another
point:
I
want
to
add
Steve.
You
had
said
at
the
beginning
about
nobody's
gonna
be
made
whole.
G
A
Thank
you
for
sharing
that
I.
Think
that
sentiment
that
you
shared
it
when
Paul
chime
in,
if
you
think
differently,
but
I,
think
that
sentiment
that
you
shared
was
shared
with
us
earlier
this
week,
when
we
were
on
a
call
with
the
retailers,
you
know
we're
talking
small
local
kind
of
retailers,
very
much
sort
of
conveyed
that
so
I
really
appreciate
like
what
you've
done,
but
other
landlords
have
talked
about
the
same
thing.
In
terms
of
you
know,
people
come
like.
You
can't
mention
this.
A
G
G
B
D
G
Familiar
with
how
finance
is
working
in
a
couple
months,
if
your
mortgage
is
such
that
you
can't,
when
you
have
a
vacancy,
you
go
without
getting
rent
and
it
doesn't
put
you
out
of
business.
So
I,
you
know
I'm
if
I
was
a
tenant,
and
that
was
what
my
landlord
came
to
me
with
I
would
find
it
hard
to
believe
they
are
so
leveraged
that
they
can't
make
a
concession.
At
least
you
know,
to
work
out
a
plan
that
Sean.
D
K
K
Advocating
for
for
what
you
are
and
here's,
why
I
think
it
is
a
hundred
percent
correct,
because,
as
a
landlord,
if
I'm
not
protecting
my
tenants,
let
me
tell
you
something:
it's
incredibly
more
expensive
to
replace
a
tenant
than
it
is
to
work
with
a
tenant.
So
the
reality
is
if,
if
a
tenant
leaves
today,
there's
really
nobody
there
to
backfill
it
and
I'm
gonna
have
to
pay
commissions.
I'm
gonna
have
to
pay
a
I
I'm
gonna
have
to
give
free
rent.
K
There
are
a
whole
host
of
things
that
it's
gonna
cost
me,
including
being
vacant,
as
you
said
so
I
think
good
landlords
hopefully
understand
that
there's
really
nobody
to
backfill
after
the
mom-and-pop
or
even
the
national
retailers,
all
right,
they're
not
rolling
out
in
these
stores.
Right
now
you
know
they're
not
banging
down
doors
of
landlords
of
with
vacant
space
to
say,
hey
I
want
to
come
in
and
strike
a
deal.
So
to
your
point,
it
is
absolutely
landlords
best
interest
to
work
with
and
advocate
to
figure
out
how
they
can
move
forward.
E
Thanks
Steven
Shawn,
thanks
for
bringing
that
up
we're
getting
we're
at
the
our
kind
of
I
want
to
respect
everybody's
calendar.
We've
been
at
this
for
an
hour.
There's
a
lot
I
think,
there's
a
lot
more
work
that
we
have
to
do
as
a
as
a
team,
and
it
looks
like
the
mayor
needs
to
jump
off
the
call
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
for
being
on
the
call
thank.
E
So
my
you
know
something
I
wanted
to
just
bring
up
quickly
before
and
we
can
still
talk
a
little
bit
longer
if
you
have
time,
but
something
I
talked
about
with
Elba
Monty
right
after
this
started
was
how
does
what
is
downtown
or
Main,
Street
or
Dempster,
or
any
of
these
streets?
Look
like
six
to
nine
months
from
now,
and
you
know
what
what
is
the
future
of
retail?
What
is
the
future
of
merchants
districts?
Are
people
going
to
be
shopping?
E
The
same
way
are
there
any
places
that
exist
anymore
is
Amazon
taken
over.
Do
we
need
to
change
our
codes
to
allow
for
other
uses
on
ground-floor
right?
So
those
are
the
types
of
things
as
a
futurist
I'm
interested
in
talking
about
and
maybe,
as
we
gather
together
on
a
more
regular
basis
over
the
next
90
days
or
so.
E
What
are
what
are
ways
that
we
can
keep
our
districts
vibrant,
but
also
not
maintaining
this
assumption.
That's
really
kind
of
a
turn
of
the
you
know:
return
in
the
19th
century,
where
people
were
shopping
in
department
stores
or
other
kinds
of
storefront
retail,
so
like
I,
just
I
want
I
want
to
just
kind
of
spark
that
conversation
not
Nestle
for
today,
but
for
future
calls
and
thinking
about
what
our,
what
our
districts
look
like.
If
they're,
not
retail
at
the
base,
I'm
really
concerned
that
listen,
we
were
at.
E
We
had
this
challenge
before
Kovac
right.
The
retailers
were
we're
fading
away.
So
I
want
to
think
about
that.
What
did
we
miss
today
that
we
should
have
on
a
future
conversation?
I
heard
a
lot
about
regulation
or
work
on
that
I
want
to
work
on
tenor,
retrofit
program.
There's
some
things
were
working
on
behind
the
scenes
on
that.
E
If
you
know
taxation
I
know,
I
know
the
assessment.
The
reassessment
was
causing
a
lot
of
heartburn
and
I'm,
not
sure
we're
monitoring
that
I
don't
know
how
the
Assessor
is
going
to
make
adjustments
for
that.
There
was
talk
recently
that
they
were
going
to
do
some
kind
of
virtual
reassessment
for
Evanston,
since
they've
already
done
the
actual
assessment,
I,
don't
know,
I
don't
have
enough
details
on
that.
Maybe
you
know
more
than
I
do
so
that's
kind
of
it.
That's
those
are
my
top
of
mine
thoughts.
I,
don't
know.
E
If
there's
anything
else,
anybody
wants
to
add
for
future
calls.
I
think
Annie
suggested
that
we
perhaps
break
in
this
district
specific
calls.
If
you're,
you
know,
like
I,
don't
know
I'm
looking
everybody
kind
of
has
properties
in
multiple
districts,
but
maybe
we
do
downtown
downtown
landlords
versus
Main,
Street
landlords,
there's
a
central
street,
so
we'll
come
up
with
a
game
plan,
but
I
I
really
appreciate
your
input
and
it's
good
to
see
a
lot
of
your
faces
that
we
used
to
work
a
lot
together
and
I
I.
E
E
What
are
your
thoughts
Andy
and
put
on
that
and
you're
good
with
that?
Okay
and
then
yeah
and
then
again,
Annie
was
suggesting
that
we
did
somebody
from
the
county.
So
one
thing
we
can
do
is
you
can
communicate
back
with
me
through
normal
channels.
We
all
stay
connected
as
it
is
so
either
text
or
call
me,
and
we
can
talk
about
things
that
we
want
to
add
to
future
calls.
But
it's
from
my
perspective,
if
you
have
the
ability
to
help
us,
we
really
need
to
help
and
we've
opened
the
door.
E
We
we
have
the
bully
pulpit.
We
meet
twice
a
week
with
with
legislators,
both
representatives
of
the
state
and
federal
level,
I
think
there's
a
county
person.
So
there's
there's
a
lot
of
advocacy
in
ways
that
we
can
communicate
with
the
decision
makers,
but
I'm,
not
gonna,
pretend
that
we
have
all
the
answers.
So
that's
why
we're
having
these
calls
Kathryn?
You
have
anything
to
add
from
your
perspective,
Roger
or
anybody.
E
I
J
E
Andy
I
promise
you
you
will
address
some
of
these.
You
know
I
I
heard
the
mayor.
There
there's
definitely
opportunities
here
this
idea
of
reducing
regulation,
so
we
can
quickly.
You
know,
backfill
space
for
for
satellite
uses
is
I.
Think
that's
the
motivator
I
think
that's
when
we
get
to.
Let's
get
to
work
on
that
kind
of
my
first
thing:
I
want
to
take
a
look
at
so
all
right.
I'm,
gonna,
I'm,
gonna,
hang
up
unless
there's
any
other
suggestions
or
comments
thanks
everybody
for
contributing.
B
I
B
D
G
Hey
Paul
Shawn
can
I
make
one
more
point,
just
kind
of
on
that
with
with
the
county,
if
people
aren't
aggravated
enough
with
the
county,
something
that
I
learned
recently
so
Amazon
opened
up
a
distribution
center
in
Skokie
and
the
county
has
given
them
a
60%
discount
on
their
property
taxes
as
an
incentive
to
use
the
space.
It's
something
it's
out.
It's
called
a
6c
or
c6
which
is
given
to
the
property
before
the
tenant.
G
But
you
know
the
the
county
we're
sort
of
getting
it
on
both
ends
from
the
county,
we're
giving
a
tax
increase
and
then,
if
you're,
a
retailer,
but
the
whole
reason
Amazon
set
up.
That
warehouse
is
for
the
last
mile
delivery
it
so
that
they
can
get
things.
So
the
customer
is
quick
enough
that
they're
an
alternative
to
actually
going
to
the
store
and
in
the
counties
giving
them
ie
I,
don't
know
how
to
quantify
it
because
I
don't
think
their
tax
bill
is
showing
up.