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A
Thank
you
thank
you
for
that.
Thank
you,
kimberly
and
shanika
for
the
agenda
of
the
minutes
and
for
pulling
this
all
together
for
us,
as
you
do
every
month,
shanique
is
co-hosting.
Now
I
see
on
zoom
looking
at
our,
so
we
are
called
to
order.
We
have
a
quorum.
B
C
D
C
Because
I
don't
think
any
because
here's
the
problem,
I
think
I'm
the
only
person
that
actually
reads
open
meetings,
act
like
law
and
it's
like
that
is
because
you
are
doing
it
because
your
rules
set
the
process.
You
all
don't
have
rules
to
set
a
process,
so
you're
not
you're,
not
suspending
any
rules.
So.
A
We
are
still
in
compliance
with
the
open
meetings
act
and
the
governor's
executive
order
allowing
us
to
meet
virtually
so
it
probably
doesn't
require
a
specific
motion
or
anything
to
do
this
correct.
A
On
every
vote,
uh-huh
all
right.
So
let's
do
your
call
on
approving
the
minutes
assistant
interim
assistant
city
manager,
richardson,
do
you
call
the
role
or
do
I
it
doesn't.
F
A
Great,
thank
you
very
much.
I
think
it
looks
kimberly
looks
as
if
we
have
some
public
comment.
Speakers
joining
us
today.
I
don't
know:
if
anybody
would
you
prefer?
What
does
it
work
better
if
we
move
this
to
the
end
so
that
we
can
take
care
of
the
business
of
our
crafting
a
retreat
for
ourselves.
A
I
actually
think
that
we
could
hear
public
comment
if
there's
anybody
who's
interested
in
offering
public
comment
tonight.
What's
the
way
that
we
do
this
on
zoom
indicate
in
the
chat
box.
C
No,
they
can
raise
their
hand
if
they
want
to
speak.
That
button
is
under
more
if
you
want
to
raise
your
hand
or
so
so
right
now
I
don't
see
anyone.
Unless
they
don't
know,
you
can
speak
if
you
are
trying
to
all
right.
I
do
see
one
person
right
now
who
want
to
speak
ally.
E
Hi,
I'm
here
I
had
to
move
away
from
the
noise
in
the
basement.
Greetings
everyone.
Thank
you
for
the
work
that
you
do
on
this
commission.
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
feel
like
the
process
that
has
just
happened,
for
the
selection
of
city
manager
may
not
live
up
to
the
goal
of
this
commission.
So
I'd
like
you
to
really
take
a
strong
look
at
that
and
make
sure
that
your
policies
of
equity
and
empowerment
are
actually
being
fulfilled
by
the
city
council
and
by
the
human
resources
practices
that
are
within.
E
A
A
Another
couple
seconds,
knowing
that
I'm
allowing
a
little
more
room
to
raise
a
hand
just
because
of
this
virtual
platform
and
all
of
its
awkwardness.
D
I
want
to
ask
when
we're
in
zoom
shouldn't
people
identify
themselves,
because
when
it
just
says
iphone,
I
I'm
wondering
who's
behind
that
or
whatever.
So
I
I
understand
that
people
have
to
be
on
camera,
but
we
should
at
least
have
names
right.
A
D
A
Thank
you
all
the
woman
homes
all
attendees,
if
you're
able,
if
you
can
figure
it
out,
would
you
please
make
sure
that
we
have
your
your
full
name
in
the
in
your
zoom
identity?
Thank
you
so
much
all
right
there
being
no
one
else,
looking
to
offer
public
comment
tonight.
Let's
move
on
to
the
next
agenda
item,
which
is
planning
for
our
retreat.
A
We
have
identified
a
date,
assistance
interim
assistant
city
manager
and
I
apologize
because
I
don't
have
paper
in
front
of
me,
I'm
looking
at
multiple
screens
because
I'm
not
at
home
right
now.
So
I'm
sorry.
If
I
hey
there's
max
max
welcome,
we
got.
A
Yeah,
so
for
the
retreat,
we
would
like
to
identify
together
the
purpose
and
the
outcomes
that
we're
hoping
from
a
retreat
and
the
process
that
we
will
use
to
achieve
those
outcomes
to
find
those
outcomes.
A
If
we
could
spend
a
little
time
talking
about
what
we
hope
to
get
from
the
retreat,
what
its
purpose
will
be,
why
are
we
doing
the
retreat
real
quick?
We
could
have
that
conversation
and
then
get
to
questions
about
having
trouble.
Finding
all
my
notes.
Sorry,
are
there
some
specific
outcomes
that
we
want.
F
I've
actually
moved
to
a
different
room,
so
now
I'm
getting
used
to
using
this
room
and
this
lighting,
and
so
I
I
have
a
couple
of
things
that
I
wanted
to
raise.
Just
to
help
facilitate
this
conversation.
F
You
know,
there's
been
a
call
or
a
request.
That
was
a
call
and
request
for
to
have
the
strategic
planning
meeting
so
that
we
could
actually
be
well
poised
to
be
able
to
have
clarity
about
our
role,
our
purpose,
our
duties,
our
powers,
so
that
we
could
actually
plan
out
and
create
some
strategic
planning
towards
our
future
work
and
one
of
the
things
that
I've
that
I
have
raised
and
that
I
struggle
with.
But
I'm
struggling
with
you
all
in
in
this
meeting,
is
clarifying.
What
is
our
purpose?
F
What
are
is
our
power
and
what
is
our
role
and
taking
the
point
that
ali
lifted
up?
Thank
you
so
much
about
what
is
our
role
both
in
internal
policy
decisions,
external
communications
with
the
community,
I'm
not
sure
if
you
fellow
commissioners
have
had
a
chance
to
look
at
the
ordinance
that
helped
create
our
commission.
F
I
think
it
would
be
beneficial
to
discuss
and
I'd
love
to
hear
from
folks
about
what
they
feel
the
purpose,
and
the
role
of
our
commission
is
because
I
think
we
need
to
have
clarity
about
that,
so
that
we
can
start
to
pivot
and
move
forward
about
the
a
work
plan
for
how
we
are
really
help
bring
equity
and
empowerment
to
the
city
of
evanston.
F
And
so
so
let
me
just
pose
a
question
if
people
can
share
with
us
what
they
feel
is
the
purpose
and
the
role
and
the
power
of
our
commission.
I
Thank
you,
alejandra
I'll,
just
start
by
saying,
yeah.
The
the
idea
of
sitting
here,
as
you
ended
in
this
moment
and
talking
about
a
retreat,
seems
to
me
like
we're
in
a
boat
and
it's
filling
with
water
from
99
holes,
and
we
want
to
sit
here
and
talk
about
how
we
could
build
a
sail.
Five
years
from
now
and
maybe
travel
the
world.
I
So
I
I
purposely
went
and
re-read
today
the
purpose
of
this
group
and
I'll
just
reread
it
out
loud.
The
purpose
of
the
equity
and
empowerment
commission,
known
as
the
commission
from
here
on,
is
to
identify
and
eradicate
inequities
in
the
city
of
evanston,
including
city
services,
programs,
human
resource
practices
and
decision
making.
Pro
processes
like
I
could
drop
the
paper
right
there.
G
Yep
carla,
this
is
kimberly.
I
definitely
agree
with
you,
I
think,
as
a
new
committee
member
or
commission
member,
like
you,
I
think
I'm
still
a
little
unclear
on
exactly
what
on
what
is
on
our
agenda
and
and
how
do
we
imp?
How
are
we
empowered
to
put
things
on
our
agenda?
G
I
mean,
I
think,
that
that
purpose
statement
is
powerful
and
I
think
we
probably
all
have
some
ideas
on
where
to
start
and
what
are
some
things
that
we
can
do,
but
I
don't
at
least
feel
that
I
know
who
gives
us
the
direction
or
are
we
able
to
set
our
own
direction,
and
so
I
think
that's
something
I've
been
trying
to
figure
out
it.
You
know,
as
this
is
what
my
third
meeting
now,
maybe
because
I
agree.
I
think
there
are
some
very
immediate
things
that
we
we
should
be.
G
G
So
I
look,
I
guess
I'm
reflecting
on
my
comment.
I
kind
of
am
looking
to
the
more
experienced
members
of
this
commission
to
sort
of
help
me
answer
that
question,
and
maybe
it
doesn't
have
a
clear
answer
and
maybe
that's
part
of
the
problem.
But
if
there
is
no
clear
answer,
how
do
we
get
an
answer?
Because
I
think
that
while
we
try
to
figure
out
what
we
should
focus
on,
I
think
there
are
missed
opportunities
that
are,
you
know,
passing
us
by.
D
Emily,
I
wouldn't
call
myself
an
experienced
member
of
the
committee
because,
but
I've
been
here
since
the
beginning
and
the
purpose
as
colorado
is
the
way
we
came
on
that
has
changed
and
I
feel,
like
we've
been
moved
away
from
that.
I
don't
know
why
I
have
no.
I
can't
answer
that.
D
We
spent
lots
of
time
in
the
beginning
working
on
in
one
direction
and
then
we
will
move
to
another
direction.
I
can't
answer
that,
so
I
don't
know
I
thought
we
were
to
here
to
help
the
city
deal
with
the
issues,
but
now
it
seems
that
that
is
moving
away
and
I
I
I
think,
maybe
I'm
even
reading
it
wrong.
So
I'm
trying
to
listen
and
learn
from
where
you
know
the
group
wants
to
go
so
I
mean
that's
my
that's
my
understanding.
F
I
mean
I
I
will
share,
and
I
just
I
posed
a
question
so
that
we
could
actually,
together
as
a
commission,
speak
out
loud
because
I
feel
like
we
really
haven't
taken
the
opportunity
to
talk
out
loud
about
our
purpose.
I
mean
I
will
share
that
alderman
holmes
and
I
actually
worked
on
a
civic
engagement
policy
very
early
on
in
our
tenure,
dr
effiom,
who
was
leading
the
commission
at
the
time
actually.
F
Well,
I
can't
say
that
she
let
us
in
that
space.
We
created
a
work
plan,
because
we
were
going
to
empower
ourselves
to
help
provide
a
direction
and
a
vision
to
help
the
city
of
evanston
become
a
more
equitable
community
and
so,
and
we
gave
we,
we
empowered
ourselves,
because
there
wasn't
clear
direction
to
actually
help
lift
up
some
best
practices
right
in
helping
the
city
be
able
to
create
a
vision
and
a
plan
to
become
a
more
equitable
city
and
we
lifted
those
up.
F
We
create
a
work
plan,
alderman
holmes
and
I
create
a
civic
engagement
policy
for
consideration.
I
would
like
for
us
to
to
lift
that
up
and
continue
that
conversation
it
has.
It
was
dropped
once
dr
effiom
left,
and
so
I
think
I
think
for
us
to
do
strategic
planning.
I
think
we
all
need
to
be
on
the
same
page
about
what
our
purpose
is.
So
then
we
can
craft
a
plan
for
the
future
of
our
work.
That
provides
clarity.
I
know
that
from
multiple
conversations
with
kimberly
who's
doing
some
amazing
work
within
the
city.
F
I
feel
like
we're
on
parallel
paths,
but
we
need
to
actually,
I
think,
be
much
more
engaged
because
we
have
already
collected
research
on
some
best
practices
for
creating
a
racially
equitable
city
of
practices
with
some
accountability,
because
right
now,
I'm
not
quite
sure
who
is
accountable
to
whom-
and
I
think
we
need
to
provide
some
clarity.
I
think,
if
we're
able
to
build
some
purpose
and
some
goals,
we
can
then
have
a
strategic
plan
that
is
clear
and
concise.
F
Nobody
wants
to
sit
on
this
commission
and
go
in
circles.
We
actually
want
to
be.
You
know
we
want
to.
We
want
to
do
the
work
and
represent
the
community
and
be
that
liaison
between
the
community
and
the
city
of
evanston
to
actually
move
us
in
this
direction,
and
so
I
just
love
to
hear
from
anybody
else
on
the
commission
about.
F
You
know
our
purpose
in
moving
us
forward,
so
we
could
actually
make
the
best
use
of
our
retreat.
That's
coming
up.
H
I
think
I'm
the
next
new
person
after
carla
and
kimberly,
but
I
think
what
I
said
last
time
was
I
I
did.
I
did
well.
First
of
all,
I
think
it's
awesome
how
many
people
are
here.
It's
great
that
there's
such
a
good
turnout
and
I
love
the
the
reactions
that
everyone's
throwing
up
so
there's,
obviously
a
sense
of
community
desire
for
our
committee
commission
to
do
something
just
based
on
this
turnout,
which
is
very
cool.
H
I
I
joined
this.
I
was
interested
in
being
on
this
for
for
advocacy
work,
and
I
think
one
thing
that
I
that
I
pick
up
on
here
is
it's
on
the
second
page,
but
studying
and
investigating
problems
of
prejudice,
bigotry
and
discrimination.
H
You
know
carla
said
we're.
The
the
ship
is
thinking
right
now
and
I
think
you
know
I
I
always
come
back
to
my
work
in
schools.
We
have.
We
have
children
right
now,
sitting
in
fall
camps
who
think
thank
goodness,
they're
in
fall
camps
for
lots
of
reasons,
but
when
we
start
to
hear
their
stories,
when
you
really
listen
to
their
stories,
it's
a
failure
of
many
parts
of
this
city
that
they
haven't
had
the
the
supports
and
resources
they
that
they've
needed
up
to
this
point.
So
that's
that's.
The
daily
life.
H
This
just
doesn't
sit
right
as
we
walk
around
the
town
and
we
know
that
it
breaks
down.
According
sorry,
my
my
connection's
unstable
I'm
gonna
turn
off
my
screen.
We
know
that
it
breaks
down
according
to
race
and
class
way
too
often,
but
I
feel
like.
H
Sometimes
we
don't
get
to
talk
about
real
lived
experiences
so
being
able
to
talk
about
it,
I
think
being
able
to
talk
real
being
able
to
hear
voices
of
people
whether
it's
truly
having
them
come
to
this
committee,
whether
it's
storytelling
there
are
many
many
ways
and
opportunities,
and
I
think
we
all
have
have
networks
too,
that
we
can.
We
can
have
honest
conversations
about
what's
going
on,
I
remember
just
before
the
pandemic.
We
were
starting
to
talk,
I
think
kathy.
H
Maybe
you
and
I
were
riffing
a
little
bit
about
the
real,
the
homeless
population,
that's
growing
in
evanston
and
you
know,
and
then
covid
and
then
we
didn't
meet
during
for
the
first
three
or
four
months,
and
that
was
kind
of
a
jarring
experience
being
on
the
equity
and
empowerment,
commission
and
not
meeting
when
a
crisis
is
going
on.
So
I
think
I
know
that
I
I'm
just
I'm
speaking
about
the
urgency
and
the
desire,
and
I'm
really
I'm
willing
to
work.
B
I
jane
I'll
speak
as
someone
who
has
been
on
the
commission,
not
quite
the
entire
time
and
as
someone
as
a
member
of
the
city
council
when
it
was
created-
and
I
I'd
say
that
I
I
think
it
was
created
with
this
very,
very
broad
purpose
statement,
because
at
the
time
there
was
a
recognition
that
we,
the
that
the
city
needed
to
have
a
special
committee
that
was
looking
and
examining
and
working
on
equity
and
the.
B
And
the
purpose
was
written
broadly
with
the
idea
that
the
commission
would
work
on
on
on
given
given
sort
of
a
broad
purpose
with
the
commission
to
determine
the
best
direction
to
go
and
then
come
back
to
the
city
council
or
to
to
work
on
it
themselves.
And
I
agree
with
alderman
holmes.
We've
we've
set
a
direction
several
times
and
then
had
our
course
changed
on
us
by
by
somewhat
external
forces,
and
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
activity
going
on
within
the
city
regarding
equity
and
some
ways.
B
We
have
a
lot
of
different
equity
fronts
happening
simultaneously
and
that's
good
in
the
sense
that
there
are
many
different
people
who
are
very
working
very
hard
on
these
things.
The
downside
is
we're
not
coordinated
and-
and
we
need
to
be
coordinated
in
some
way,
because
I
think,
as
alejandra
said,
we
need
to
understand
what
our
power
is,
and
our
power
originally
was
was
to
think
about
equity
and
come
back
and
and
do
research
and
figure
out
what
would
be
a
the
best
way.
B
I
mean
this
is
how
I'm
interpreting
it
and
you
all
can
can
chime
in.
But
what
was
the
best
thing
to
do
with
this
enormous
topic
that
needed
so
much.
So
I
think
that
there
yes
we're
sinking,
but
we
also
have
an
enormous
subject
that
is
going
to
take
a
long
time
to
address.
I
don't
know
whether
we'd
ever
address
it
fully
and
we
meet
once
a
month,
so
we
were
given
a
huge
task
and
we
need
to
sit
down.
B
I
would
agree,
sit
down
together
and
understand
what
else
is
happening
within
the
city.
I
mean,
since
this
commission
started
the
the
institutional
racism
resolution
has
been
passed
by
the
city
council.
The
reparations.
B
Fund
has
been
created
by
we
created
that
on
the
city
council,
a
means
of
funding
it
has
been
created
and
the
reparation
subcommittee
has
been
meeting
for
quite
a
period
of
time,
so
I
mean
they're,
we
we
and
we
have
not
heard
from
them
necessarily
and
those
meetings
are
public,
but
we
have
not
heard
from
them.
So
where
do
we
fit
in
with
all
of
that,
and
we
did
have
some
plans
that
we
were
developing
about
having
community
conversations
about
equity.
B
B
D
She
said
we're
waiting
for
power
to
be
handed
to
us.
Is
that
what
you
said?
I
yeah.
I
don't
see
that
I
you
know
just
like
melissa
justin
is
saying:
we've
had
some
detours
reparations
and
that
kind
of
stuff
would
not
have
happened
without
this
committee
and
we
stopped
and
dealt
with
that
and
got
them
started
of
the
sustainable
thing
that
we
just
finished.
That
would
not
have
happened
if
it
hadn't
been
for
this
committee.
We
stopped
and
dealt
with
that.
D
So
we
have
been,
I
don't
want
to
say,
we've
been
throwing
curveballs,
but
we
we
jumped
on
whatever
has
been
put
before
us
to
take
care
of
it
without
continuing
on
to
what
I
I
feel
that
we
originally
started
out
to
do,
and
I
may
be
I'm
only
giving
my
perspective,
but
I
I
feel
like
I
don't
want
to
say:
we've
been
sidetracked,
but
I
think
that
in
doing
that,
it
sort
of
took
the
focus
off
of
where
we
were
headed.
I
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that
I
am
not
making
a
generalized
statement
of
any
inability
in
the
past
for
this
commission
to
have
done
anything
like
assisted
with
the
reparations.
I
am
talking
about.
The
fact
that
we
in
this
community
today,
in
this
very
day
in
this
very
week,
have
an
enormous
equity
crisis
in
our
hr
resources,
practices
and
decision-making
processes.
I
B
I
B
But
what
health
care
workers
have
have
resigned.
A
It
was
the
mental
health
board,
so
the
evanston
mental
health
board
resigned.
There
was
her
letter
in
the
round
table.
I
think
this
week
it.
B
C
People
resign
every
day
for
whatever
reasons
on
boards
and
commissions:
that's
a
boarding.
Commission,
it's
not
a
position
within
the
city.
It's
not
a
paid
position.
It's
a
volunteer
position
just
like
you,
but
let
me
can
I
just
go
back
to
what
you're
saying,
because
I
was
listening
to
everything
everyone's
saying
and
as
the
staff
that's
leading
this
staff.
That's
the
staff.
Ladies,
are
leading
this
group.
I
I
need
to
speak
so
that
I
can
give
you
some
clarity
from
this
point.
Point
standpoint
of
city
operations
in
2017.
C
This
ordinance
was
developed.
I
don't
know
how
this
ordinance
was
developed
and
how
this
orders
got
passed
through
city
council,
because
I
don't
know,
city
council
doesn't
one
do
anything
with
our
hr.
They
have
no
say
in
hr.
They
don't
have
the
ability
to
hire
any
staff
other
than
appoint
the
city
manager.
C
They
don't
have
any
ability
to
to
pass
or
approve
our
personnel
manual.
That
is
all
done
internally
and
reading
that
document.
Reading
your
ordinance,
it
was
very
clear.
This
order
should
have
been
stood
up
as
a
city
internal
committee
to
review
our
city
policies
and
to
actually
make
those
changes
internally.
C
This
should
not
have
been
created
as
a
city
commission,
how
it
got
approved
in
past.
I
don't
know
because
I
was
not
engaged.
Nor
was
I
involved
or
asked
to
be
involved
at
the
time,
and
so
for
the
last
six
months
I
have
been
trying
to
figure
out.
How
do
I
bring
you
all
into
this
process
so
that
we
can
have
the
community
input,
but
also
our
city
staff,
because
they're
the
ones
who
are
the
most
impacted
by
any
policy
change
internally?
C
How
can
I
ask
them
to
do
a
community
engagement
policy
that
they
have
no
say
in
that
they
have
no
training
on
that
they
have
no
education
in
and
tell
them.
Okay.
This
is
the
new
policy,
because
you
need
to
do
equity
and
they're
looking
at
me
like,
but
what's
equity.
That
is
what
I'm
dealing
with
right.
Now
we
are
starting
from
I'm
just
going.
To
be
honest,
we
did
a
lot
of
good
work.
We
talked
about
a
lot
of
a
personal
awareness,
a
lot
of
individual
training
about
oneself.
C
We
did
seed,
we've
done
work
with
ywca,
with
trainings
around
awareness
with
explicit
implicit
bias.
Microaggressions
we've
done
a
lot
of
work
internally
to
understand
ourselves,
but
we
have
not
done
the
work
around
equity
that
looks
at
our
policies,
practices
and
procedures.
We
just
have
it
and
what
I
did
last
month
was
have
someone
come
in,
because
this
is
the
individual
I'll
be
working
with
us
so
that
we
can
do
exactly
what
this
commission
was
asked
to
do
in
an
internal
structure.
C
C
One
is
not
fair
to
you
because
you
put
the
work
into
it,
but
secondly,
what
is
frustrating
the
most
is
that
this
was
allowed
to
happen.
You
shouldn't
have
been
doing
this
work.
We
should
have
been
doing
this
work.
Staff
should
have
been
doing
this
work
and
then
you
should
have
been
holding
us
accountable.
C
The
fact
that
you
are
a
public
body,
you
are
a
public
body
you're,
not
a
staff
driven
committee.
You
have
to
figure
out
a
way.
How
do
you
hold
city
council
accountable?
How
do
you
hold
other
boards
and
commissions
accountable?
How
do
you
hold
that
structure
accountable?
That
then,
is
responsible
for
holding
us
as
staff
accountable?
C
That
is
where
we
have
to
get
to,
because
guess
what
carla
as
much
as
people
may
have
hated
the
process
for
the
city
manager.
I
can
tell
you
there
was
three
other
city.
Marriage
recruitments
happening
at
the
same
time
and
not
one
of
them
had
a
person
of
color
in
their
top
three
candidates.
So
we've
gone
a
long
way.
Is
it
fair
that
maybe
not
for
those,
but
I
have
to
tell
you
we
have
work
to
do
in
evanston,
but
we're
not
thinking.
C
We
may
not
just
be
at
the
level
that
you
all
expect
this
at,
but
we
are
not
thinking.
We
are
doing
the
work.
If
you
would
see
and
look
at
the
work
that
we
did
with
the
social
services,
we
stood
up
a
health
and
human
services
department
that
actually
is
functioning
able
to
respond
to
covet
19..
We
have
staff
looking
at
how
we
are
funding
mental
health
and
cbg
funding
in
an
equity
lens
way.
You.
H
C
How
we
have
that,
because
they've
been
trained
to
start
doing
that
work,
the
more
we
train
and
build
capacity
in
our
department,
our
inner
in
our
organization,
the
more
you're
going
to
see
that
externally,
but
we
can't
get
empowerment
in
our
own
organization
if
our
staff
don't
feel
empowered
how
the
heck
are
going
to
empower
our
community,
so
we
have
to
do
both.
We
just
need
to
figure
out
in
some
way.
How
do
we
bring
you
all
together
with
what
we're
doing
so?
C
It
is
a
collaboration,
and
it's
not
even
or
I
want
to
figure
that
way,
and
I
think
we
can't
do
it
so
that
you're
not
sitting
here
wasting
your
time
wanting
policies
instead,
you're
holding
us
accountable
and
having
measurements
and
saying
this
is
what
we're
expecting
from
you.
How
are
you
going
to
meet
those
expectations?
C
That's
that's
how
it's
going
to
I
mean,
because
this
is
this
is
what
we
do.
This
is
our
daily
profession
we
are
here.
You
don't
need
a
full-time
one
person.
You
need
a
full
organization,
doing
equity
work.
So
what
can
I
do
to
help
support
that?
That's
what
I
want
to
find
out,
but
I'm
so
sorry
that
you
all
have
done
this
work
and
you
feel
like
it's
been
done
for
not
my
goal
is
take
that
work
and
I'm
going
to
figure
out
a
way
how
we
can
implement
it.
C
That
makes
sense
so
that
we
can
do
that
work
effectively
internally
and
externally.
So
I'm
just
being
honest,
I'm
I'm
trying
being
as
transparent
as
possible.
It's
no
it's
no
one's
fault,
but
I'm
going
to
tell
you,
though,
ultimately,
how
the
heck
does.
City
council
stand
up
a
committee?
They
don't
even
know
anything
about.
I
mean
they
don't
even
understand
the
term
racial
equity
even
means,
and
for
that
to
be
the
reason
I
mean
for
us
to
expect
them
for
them
to
be
okay.
Reading
that
ordinance
and
not
questioning
anything.
C
I
Really
I
just
want
to
address
one
thing,
and
I
appreciate
all
the
emotion
and
the
passion
behind
what
you
said.
I
want
to
make
it
clear.
The
holes
I'm
talking
about
is
not
a
general
dysfunction
of
evan's
death,
so
I
don't
want
to
take
away
from
any
of
the
things
you
said
that's
going
on
with
social
services.
That's
all
I
want
to
add.
A
I
think
one
of
the
things
that's
pretty
clear
to
everybody
that
we
need
to
sort
out
is
if
we
are
looking
to
empower
ourselves
carla,
as
you
said,
we
need
to
figure
out
the
extent
of
our
power
and
if
what
we
imagine
our
role
is
vis-a-vis
the
city
and
supporting
what
kimberly
is
doing
internally
and
if
it
doesn't
match
up
with
what
we're
actually
enabled
to
do
from
the
ordinance,
then
we
propose
changes
to
the
ordinance
to
empower
ourselves
to
do
what
we
think
we
need
to
do
to
benefit
the
city
and
the
community,
and
it
looks
as
if
there's
that
we
get
mixed
signals
from
the
enabling
ordinance
from
the
bylaws
that
we
have
and
from
our
internal
discussions
about
what
we
want
to
do
with
this
max
wants
to
this
to
be
an
advocacy
organization,
access,
advocacy
group,
the
way
that
the
ordinance
structured
it
doesn't
allow
us
to
do
that.
A
So
this
retreat
needs
to
be
about
figuring
out
understanding
our
power,
as
alejandra
and
carla,
have
said,
the
extent
of
our
power,
our
role,
vis-a-vis
city
staff,
and
and
also
understanding
everything
else.
That's
happening
in
the
city
so
that
we
don't
duplicate
effort,
so
we
can
support
the
good
stuff
that's
going
on
and
we
can
hold
accountable
for
what's
not
happening
in
the
city.
If
that's
what
we
imagine
our
role
to
be.
B
Yeah,
I
think
I
I
think
I
need
to
address
some
of
what
kimberly
just
said
kimberly
when
we
start
when,
when
the
council
enacted
and
created
this
commission,
I
think
the
council
was
doing
something
aspirationally.
B
I
don't
know
that
the
entire
city,
council
and
I'll
just
tell
you
right
now.
The
entire
city
council,
probably
in
their
heart
of
hearts,
did
not
agree
with
creating
this
commission,
but
there
were
enough
of
us
on
it
who
believe
that
we
needed
to
have
a
commission
to
start
the
discussion
now.
Does
that
mean
that
we
should
have
dealt
in
in
finer
detail
with
what
the
commission
should
be
and
should
do
yes?
But
I
think
that
there's
no
question
that
that
this
is
this
commission
is
evolving.
B
We
can
see
how
fast
equity
is
involving,
but
I
I
will
tell
you
when
this
commission
was
created.
I
don't
think
that
we
were
looking
internally
and
and
others,
dolores
and
and
jane
and
alejandra
can
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
our
original
discussions
were
talking
about
understanding
equity
in
the
larger
community
and
what
we
should
do
about
having
the
starting
the
discussion
within
the
larger
community.
The
issue
was
raised
and
appropriately
so
about
how
can
we
have
a
discussion
about
this
with
the
larger
community?
B
If
we
are
not
this,
the
city
staff
itself
is
not
addressing
this,
and
I
agree
that
the
on
the
work
that
you've
been
doing
has
been
been
tremendous.
I
think
this
is
why
we're
having
this
discussion
right
now
is
to
say
we
need
to
stop
and
reassess
what
is
the
purpose
of
this
commission?
B
A
commission
that
meets
once
a
month
is
not
going
to
be
able
to
address
some
of
the
issues
that
people
have
raised
tonight
and
I
don't
believe
that
we
do
have
the
power
to
change
the
city's
hr
policies.
We
were
not
given
that
power
and
so
that
that's
a
problem,
but
I
think
that
those
things
have
been
somewhat
addressed.
B
I
think
they're
members
of
the
city
council,
who
don't
necessarily
pay
much
attention
to
equity,
but
you
know
this
is
why
we're
talking
tonight
we're
talking,
because
we
need
to
figure
out.
What's
the
purpose
of
this
commission
working
in
parallel
with
what's
happening
on
all
of
the
work
that
the
city
staff
has
done,
because
if
we
aren't
working
in
conjunction
with
each
other,
then
we're
not
going
to
make
any
progress.
B
So
I
welcome
this
discussion
and
I
am,
I
am
ready,
willing
and
able
to
re-examine
the
purpose
and
determine
what
it
is.
That's
possible
for
a
commission
to
do
and
and
what
it
is
that
this
commission
can
do.
We
can
we
don't
we
don't
have
a
specific
task.
We
have
an
enormous
task,
so
you
know
we
need
to
think
broadly
about
it,
but
also
realistically
about
what
we
can
do.
What
are
the
goals
that
we
think
we
can
accomplish?
B
As
a
city,
commission,
that's
made
up
of
one
alderman
and
the,
and
I
don't
remember
how
many
we
are
nine
volunteers.
J
Can
I
just
jump
into
as
someone
I
think
who's
been
in
from
the
beginning
and
say
that
you
know
first,
I
I
I.
I
really
appreciate
all
the
work
and
and
the
passion
that
everyone
is
bringing
to
this
and
I
think
we
have
evolved
and
and
in
some
ways
it's
because
we've
wanted
to
be
responsive
to
people
in
the
community.
Who
saw
a
new
commission
and
thought
this
is
the
commission
that
can
help
forward.
J
You
know
what
I
see
as
an
inequity,
or
you
know,
people
that
that
could
could
use
a
voice
and-
and
I
actually
don't
know
that-
that's
not
what
I
thought
the
role
was
to
to
to
give
voice
to
folks
that
maybe
didn't
have
their
voices
heard.
I
came
to
this
thinking
that
was
part
of
the
role
that
we
as
a
commission
had
I'm
I'm
up.
For
you
know
the
discussion
also
and
I'd
like
to
hear,
because
the
commission
is
now
a
different
group
of
people,
but
I
also
think
that.
J
I
never
thought
that
we
as
a
commission
would
be
since
I
don't
work
in
this
city.
You
know
I'm
not
the
right
person
necessarily
well,
I'm
not
the
right
person
period.
I
don't
work
in
the
city,
so
I
don't
know
that.
I
thought
I
would
be
changing
things,
but
I
I
guess
I
thought
of
us
as
more
of
a
this
is
just
my
thought.
I
came
to
it
thinking.
J
We
are
people
with
different
life
experiences
at
evanston
and
we're
trying
to
bring
those
life
experiences
to
share
with
the
city
and
with
others
to
try
to
have
different
voices
be
factored
into
all
of
the
things
that
happen.
J
That's
kind
of
nebulous
right,
but
that's
kind
of
how
it
started
was
for
me,
was
with
this
kind
of
bigger,
looser
idea,
but
I
think
there's
another
part
of
this
that
we've
we
talked
about
the
community.
We've
talked
about
the
city
employees,
but
I
also
think
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
other
boards
and
commissions
just
like
us
who
maybe
have
a
more
defined
role
because
they've
been
around
for
a
long
time.
So
you
know,
there's
a
there's
people
that
think
about
housing.
There's
people
that
think
about
mental
health
services.
J
There's
people
that
think
about
zoning.
You
know-
and
I
think,
if
I
may
say,
we've
we've
picked
the
hard
one
right,
because
our
work
goes
across
every
single
thing
that
all
of
the
commissions
and
all
of
the
city
workers
do
because
we're
trying
to
think
about
how
to
make
you
know,
boil
the
ocean
and
make
it
all
equitable.
J
There's
another
group
of
decision
makers,
or
at
least
influencers
in
our
in
our
structure,
and
that
is
the
volunteers
like
us
who
are
are
passionate
about
whatever
it
is
and
and
spend
their
time
coming
to
try
to
make
the
city
a
better
place
to
live,
and
you
know
I'm
I'm
thinking
that
that
is
also
a
part
of
all
this
work
is
trying
to
get
all
the
ores
it's
an
impossible
task,
but
it's
not
a
not
an
impossible
goal.
J
I
think
to
try
to
kind
of
get
folks
on
the
same
page
so
that
we
can
start
the
oars
moving
together.
That's
just
the
way
I
see
it
or
I
saw
it
and
and
I'm
more
than
willing
to
evolve
what
I,
what
I
understand
the
commission
to
be.
You
know
through
this
conversation,
so
that's
that's
how
I
started
and
where
I
am
at
this
point.
A
F
We
have
evolved,
but
I
wonder
if,
if
having
a
collective
exercise
of
looking
at
that
purpose
and
making
and
doing
right
by
it
and
making
it
what
it
needs
to
be
whatever
that
may
be,
should
be
an
exercise
that
we
engage
in
so
that
then
we
can
have
clarity.
I
mean
there
are
so
many
possibilities
here.
You
know,
and
we've
talked
a
number
of
times
about
gear
and
different
models
that
are
being
used.
F
We
don't
have
to
reinvent
the
wheel
and
yes,
evanston
is
unique,
but
I
think
there
are
some
parallel
paths
that
we
need
to
be
working
collaboratively
with,
and
I
don't
don't
mean
to
put
kimberly
on
the
spot,
because
she's
been
holding
she's,
been
holding
this
she's
been
holding
us
and
trying
to
keep
us
together
throughout
all
the
challenges.
But
I
wonder
how
can
well.
F
I
don't
wonder,
I
think
we
really
need
to
spend
some
time
and
looking
at
the
purpose
and
doing
right
by
it
we're
not
going
to
wait
for
anyone
to
give
us
how
we've
been
given
it,
and
so
we
need
to
take
it,
and
just
you
know
make
that
purpose
clear,
because
right
now
it
is
not
and
then
start
getting
back
on
track
where
we
were
to
create
work
plans
and
working.
F
F
You
know
that
ordinance
and
doing
right
by
it
and
then
moving
forward
on
creating
a
plan
for
the
next,
whatever
three
four
years,
because
there's
nothing
like
having
all
these.
I
even
see
a
neighbor
of
two
of
mine
as
a
public
member
on
this
call,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
doing
right
by
being
on
this
commission
and
to
do
that.
I
need
to
have
clarity
about
my
purpose.
Our
purpose
together.
F
So
we
can
do
right
by
it,
and
I
bet
you
all
want
to
do
the
same
exact
thing,
and
so
can
that
be?
I
don't
want
to
say
ask,
but
I
think
one
of
the
first
things
we
need
to
do
is
review
that
ordinance
and
review
our
purpose
to
do
right
by
it.
So
then
we
can
start
planning
the
future
and
doing
that
purposefully.
I
feel
like
both
things
need
to
happen.
F
At
the
same
time,
there
is
some
there
are
some
things
happening
at
the
city
that
are
good
things,
that
we
need
to
be
working
hand
in
hand
not
in
the
dark
and
alone.
G
In
the
meantime,
while
we
work
on
the
strategic
planning
and
you
know
sort
of
the
forward-looking
aspects
of
our
vision-
and
you
know
clarifying
our
purpose,
what
are
the
thoughts
on
like?
How
do
we
respond
to
things
that
may
be
happening
right
like
taking?
You
know
the
city
manager
discussion
aside?
Let's
just
say
something
came
up
right
in
the
middle
of
our
work.
G
G
We
definitely
should
have
a
plan,
and
I
agree
that
you
know
we
should
clarify
our
purpose
and
we
should
understand
exactly
how
we
can
best
use
our
power.
But
inevitably
you
know
because
we
know
equity
is
such
a
large
cross-cutting
issue.
There
will
be
things
that
are
not
maybe
on
our
plan,
but
that
maybe
deserve
our
attention
or
our
time,
or
at
least
our
advocacy
yeah.
So
how
do
we
do
that
in
in
the
middle
of
working
on
our
agenda.
A
Right,
I
can.
I
can
shed
a
little
light
on
this.
We
are
as
a
as
a
branch
of
local
government
subject
to
the
open
meetings
act,
so
we
can
indeed
call
special
meetings,
emergency
meetings,
even
but
they
have
to
be
there.
We
are
required
to
give
notice
of
them
the
same
way
that
you
do
other
meetings,
so
we
can
meet.
A
We
can't
meet
any
sooner
than
48
hours
after
when
we
decide
we
need
to
do
a
public
meeting
just
because
of
the
open
meetings
act,
so
we
could
do
that,
so
we
can
be
responsive
in
that
way
kimberly,
but
we
can't-
and
we
cannot
issue
statements
without
the
commission's
approval
of
them.
So
I
would
be.
I
would
be
glad
to
summon
us
together
for
an
emergency
meeting
so
that
we
could
consider
something
and
respond
to
it
and
agree
on
a
statement
or
release
a
statement
from
the
equity
empowerment.
Commission.
A
We
just
haven't
been
that
nimble
to
be
able
to
do
that,
and
I
think
we'd
have
lots
of
opportunities.
The
question
is:
would
we
want
to
do
that?
We'd
need
a
quorum
to
do
it,
and
then
we
would
need
to
make
sure
that
we
give
adequate
notice
for
those
special
or
emergency
meetings
and
kimberly
and
melissa.
Correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
in
the
48
hours
for
a
special
meeting
like
that.
But
I
think
that's
what
the
notice,
the
advanced
notice
to
the
public
of
what
our
meeting
would
be.
C
C
Right
because
you
still
have
to
have
a
quorum,
I
mean,
I
guess
the
question
is:
what
would
those
circumstances
be,
or
you
know
you
know
what
would
those?
What
would
those?
I
guess?
That's
that's
a
bylaw
question
that
needs
to
be.
I
guess
address
in
the
bylaws
about
like
when
would
a
special
meeting
be
convened.
H
Well,
yeah
I
mean
I
I
I
love
to
come
back
to
the
advocacy
piece
because
equity
and
empowerment,
like
empowerment
as
an
active
word,
the
work
of
empowering
to
me
is
advocacy,
work,
lowercase,
a
advocacy
work
and
I
don't
I've
never
heard
of
anyone
in
politics.
Any
civil
civil
servant
who
doesn't
see
their
work
is
mission
driven
and
part
of
advocacy,
so
that
and
that's
where
I'm
coming
from
the
the
the
work
of
building
a
better
place.
H
H
I'd
love
to
have
a
good
flow
of
information,
but
I
feel
like
I
am
privy
to
walking
out
on
my
block
with
my
with
my
children
and
seeing
how
there
are
many
many
different
experiences
going
on
in
the
same
town
and
we
can
say
evanson's
really
good.
It's
a
nice
place
to
live
it's
better
than
xyz,
but
I
don't
know
I
just.
I
just
hope
that
acting
with
a
sense
of
urgency-
and
maybe
we
need
to
unpack
what
that
word
means
too,
is
somewhere
in
all
of
this.
H
I
think
that's
why
the
committee
is
made
up
of
of
a
diverse
group
of
people
who
do
a
lot
of
different
things
for
their
work
kathy.
I
think
what
you
you
bring
an
amazing
background
in
you
know,
disability
work
and
that
plays
out
big
time
in
this
town.
Every
single
day
we've
talked
about
how
kids,
with
the
most
need,
are
shuttled
by
bus
across
town
and
that's
been
a
historical
problem
in
this
town.
It
has
real
impacts
for
opportunities
for
the
rest
of
people's
lives
and
that
hasn't
gone
away.
C
C
C
H
Here
sorry
yeah,
I
it's
it's,
I'm
not
I'm
not
sorry
kimberly.
I
might
have
lost
last
part,
but
because
I
jumped
in
I
didn't
mean
to
jump
over
you,
but
I'm
I'm
only
using
I
I
have
I
I'm
privileged
because
I
I
get
to
I
get
to
live
with
my
students
who
have
amazing
stories.
So
I'm
not
I'm
not
saying
fix
the
problems
of
the
school
system.
H
I'm
saying
I
get
to
see
different
things
so,
like
you
know,
I
get.
Your
question
brings
up
20
000
stories,
so
I
I
can
have,
I
can
live
where
I
live
and
children
can
cross
the
street
without
worrying.
You
know
that
traffic
about
traffic
they're
not
worried
about
being
stopped
by
a
cop
because
of
the
color
of
their
skin.
Maybe
maybe
I
shouldn't
say
that,
but
families
who
live
in
the
fifth
ward
have
many
many
problems.
H
I
can't
have
a
kid
walk
to
school
on
their
own,
because
the
way
the
city
is
designed
and
set
up,
you
know
I
had
to
have
a
a
a
a
mom
fighting
to
get
police
protection
in
her
house
after
her
father
was
killed
a
month
ago
and
and
needed
a
lot
of
activism
and
advocacy
to
get
that
to
happen
so
how
city
services
are
doled
out
really
does
depend
on
your
zip
code
and
your
address
and
and
I'm
not
sure,
that's
getting
a
lot
of
air
time
everywhere.
I
I
We
had
a
person
here
before
it
was
about
environment
et
cetera,
and
we
go
create
not
only
what
the
big
picture
purpose,
because
apparently
we're
saying
that
this
is
not
real,
but
we
say:
okay,
we
want
to
focus
on
housing,
hiring
practices,
and
I
don't
know
what
else,
but
we
haven't
asked
the
citizens
yet
what's
important
to
them.
I
So
how
do
we
get
into
a
retreat
when
the
nine
of
us
and
take
our
privilege
in
that
room
and
make
decisions
when
we
haven't
empowered
the
community
in
any
way
in
any
survey,
in
any
outreach
to
say
what
is
important
to
them
like
how
they
view
equity,
how
they
view
the
prioritization
of?
What's
ahead,
because
to
the
point
several
people
made,
we
do
have
to
kind
of
chunk
things
down,
but
the
second
question
kimberly.
I
It
comes
back
to
something
you
said
that
I
wasn't
aware
of
about
how
this
ordinance
got
created
if
we
go
and
create
our
own
purpose.
Now,
when
I
think
from
what
kimberly
said,
essentially,
the
the
structurally
how
this
was
created
was
not
correct,
because
it's
saying
that
we
have
input,
you
know,
I'm
not
saying
control,
we
can't
control
things
but
input,
or
we
have
a
say
or
should
insert
our
our
opinions,
sorry
reminder
to
drink
water.
We
should
insert
our
opinions
around
hr
reviews.
I
C
Here,
first,
just
before
I
answer
your
question,
carla,
I
just
want
to
my
words,
were
very,
very
reckless
and
care
and
very
careless.
You
know
I
want
to
first
apologize
to
honor
nguyen
and
you
know
in
the
commission,
because
one
I
was
not.
My
words
are
not
meant
because
I'm
sitting
here
thinking
about
what
I
said
and
my
my
words
was
not
an
attack
or
at
the
city
council,
because
I
don't
it's
not
this
they're,
it's
my
it's
our
job.
It's
it
was
it's.
The
onus
is
on
us.
C
When
I
say
us,
I
mean
the
administration
scene
manager's
office
when
we're
doing
these
types
of
things,
and
I
want
to
be
very
mindful.
This
is
not
on
the
city,
council,
they're,
they're,
they're,
they're
volunteers,
even
though
they're
getting
stipend
but
think
you
know
I
went
to
school
to
do
this.
I
should
know
what
good
policy
and
ordinances
look
like,
so
I
want
to
first
apologize
because
I
allow
my
passions
to
say
things
that
are
a
little
reckless
in
this
form,
and
so
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
that.
C
C
So
if
you
want
to
talk
about
hr-
and
you
see
the
the
diversity
inclusions
where
everyone
focuses
on
so
the
ratio
of
of
people
of
color
education,
all
those
things
that's
great,
but
then
how
are
we?
You
know
ensuring
that
we
have
a
culture
for
people
to
apply
to
our
organization
and
feel
that
they
have
a
chance
to
actually
get
in
and
be
a
part
of
the
organization
I
mean
you
can
have
impact
with
that.
C
C
That
is
fair
question
that
you
all
have
the
right
to
ask
it's.
Just
I
was
speaking
to
the
creation
of
policy
was
where
I
was
coming
from.
So
there's
things
there
that
there's
advocacy
in
that,
and
I
agree
that
carla,
you
are
100
right.
I
mean
the
first
thing
I
did
when
we
started
police
that
we
went
around
in
our
organization,
asked
them
to
define
what
equity
meant
and
the
reality
was
that
people
had
different
different
definitions
of
equity,
and
I
think
that
is.
C
C
That
would
cause
you
to
go
into
these
circles,
and
so
the
goal
is
that
moving
forward,
whatever
you
all
decide
to
do,
if
you
decide
to
update
the
ordinance,
if
you
decide
to
do
something
different
is
to
make
sure
that
the
language
that
you're
using
and
that
the
process
that
you're
going
to
be
moving
forward
with,
is
going
to
actually
yield
results
for
this
organization
and
for
the
community.
So
you
know
my
goal
is
not
to
you
know,
that's
why
we
worked
on
the
environmental
justice.
They
were
working
on
that
for
three
years.
C
It
wasn't
something
that
they
just
did
over
the
summer
and
it
took
help
from
staff
to
help
develop
the
language
a
little
bit
more,
so
it
could
be
usable,
and
that
is
something
now
that
has
been
passed
through
city
council.
So
it
would
be
the
same
with
you
all.
We
will
be
helping
and
assisting
with
that
process
so
that
it
can
be
something
that
you
all
can
benefit
from,
as
well
as
the
community.
A
Thank
you
kimberly,
so
I
I
think,
we've
all
answered
the
question
about
why
we
do
a
retreat.
It's
pretty
clear
that
we
need
one
and
the
outcomes
we'd
be
hoping
for
would
be
to
go
together,
figure
out
what
our
purpose
and
goals
are,
and
that
would
lead
into
perhaps
a
strategic
plan.
It
could
be
the
strategic
plan
and
a
work
plan
carl.
A
I
agree
that
it's
important
to
also
get
community
input
on
this
because,
to
the
extent
that
we're
even
on
the
community's
radar
screen,
it'd
be
good
to
know
what
did
they
expect
of
this
commission
and
this
work
as
to
help
us
guide
the?
What
is
our
mission
and
purpose
so.
D
What
kimberly
said
said
because
I
think
that-
and
I
never
really
thought
about
it
until
tonight-
and
I
see
all
the
people
here
and
I
and
and
since
color
pointed
out,
it
assumes
about
the
senior
manager
that
what
happens
if,
when
things
happen,
pop
up
and
people
think
that
we
are
supposed
to
respond
to
that
in,
and
you
know
in
in
some
way
or
some
form
or
fashion,
how
that
how
that
works.
So
I
think
that
that
has
to
be
an
agenda
item
as
well.
In
terms
of
how
we
respond
to.
D
I
want
us
to
maybe
immediate
situations.
I
think
one
of
the
things
that,
if
everybody
doesn't
know,
we
have
to
really
help
people
understand,
is
the
form
of
government
that
we
had,
and
that
is
some
of
the
things
that
kimberly
was
speaking
to
when
she
was
being
passionate
about
it.
But
it's
it's
very
true
in
terms
of
the
the
form
of
government.
D
We
have
people,
don't
understand
and
I
think
that
they
think
people
can
just
do
things
and
there
is
a
certain
rhythm
that
has
to
be
followed
and
in
terms
of
the
this
latest
issue,
with
the
with
the
process
for
the
city
manager.
D
It's
a
process
that
I've
gone
through.
This
is
my
third
one,
julia
wally
and
then
watching
this
one,
the
other
two
I
was
involved
in
and
the
same
process
in
this
same
community.
It
was
used
very
successfully
before
the
difference
of
course
was
covet.
19
we
weren't
able
to
have
community
meetings,
but
I
thought
the
staff
did
a
good
job
of
trying
to
get
community
input
with
the
zoom
meeting
and
having
people
call
in
with
questions.
D
D
So
that's
for
me,
and
I'm
only
talking
for
myself,
so
I
I
just
don't
understand.
There
were
three
excellent
candidates
and
I
think
people
did
the
job
that
they
were
asked
to
do
on
the
panels.
And
then
the
decision
lies
with
the
city
council,
because
that's
just
the
way
it
works.
D
That
is
the
way
it
works,
and-
and
that
is
the
former
government
that
we
have
and
and
if
people
don't
like
that,
then
we
have
to
as
a
community
change
that-
and
I
I
mean
I'm
trying
to
be
real
calm
about
it,
because
I
I
think
that
it
is
a
very
common
thing
to
think
you
just
can't
change
the
form
of
government
that
we
have
presently
that
has
to
be
voted
upon
by
all
the
citizens
in
there.
D
I
think
somebody
said
that
74
000
people
ought
to
have
had
a
chance
to
have
an
input
into
it
and
they're
absolutely
right,
and
I
guess
they
would
have
extended
the
time.
Maybe
if
that
many
people
had
sent
in
questions
you
know,
so
I
we
just
have
to
help
people
to
understand
and
see
the
work
that
has
to
be
done
by
everyone,
not
only
this
committee.
This
commission,
I
should
say,
but
that's
being
done
by
the
aldermen
and
also
being
done
by
the
staff,
and
it
ought
to
be
a
collaboration.
G
But
in
cases
where
there's
you
know,
just
from
my
viewpoint,
there
seems
to
be
a
lot
of
community
uprising
and
I
won't
say,
unrest
but
anxiety
around
the
decision
and
you
know
who
was
picked
and
why
and
what
you
know
whatever
so
like
in
those
types
of
situations
like
while
we're
not
able
to
maybe
formally
influence
the
process
like
do
people
look
to
us
to
maybe
help
hold
the
city
accountable
for
some
of
the
things
that
the
residents
feel
they
got.
G
They
may
have
gotten
wrong
about
the
decision,
in
any
case,
of
course,
I'm
speaking
about
the
city
manager,
because
I
think
that's
why
a
lot
of
people
are
here-
and
you
know
at
least
on
news
and
social
media,
and
it's
been
everywhere
right.
But
what
is
our
role
in
that?
In
into
that
accountability?
Piece
right,
maybe
bringing
we
look
at
the.
We
look
at
the
feedback
that
was
collected
around.
What
are
we
looking
for
in
the
next
person?
You
know
what
are
the?
What
are
the
residents
want,
what
are
the
attributes
etc?
G
A
I
don't
know
it
was
interesting
kimberly
because
much
earlier
this
year,
when
we
knew
we
had
a
city
manager
vacancy
the
commission
did
discuss
the
role
that
we
could
have
in
the
selection
process
in
the
vetting
process
for
city
manager.
Could
there
be
someone
from
the
commission
on
one
of
the
panels,
the
interview
panels
for
the
city
manager,
candidates
and,
and
that
that
didn't
happen
I
don't
think
except
melissa
was
melissa,
was
maybe.
A
Part
of
the
process
early
on
and
injecting
ourselves
into
the
process.
B
Jane
delores
holmes
was
on
one
of
the
community
panels.
All.
A
I
Kimberly's
point
kimberly
w:
what
are
the
ways
we
go
about
in
at
the
very
least?
Okay,
so
proactive
would
be
nice
but
catching
those
missteps.
So,
let's
just
say
it
is
what
it
is
can
do.
We
come
together
as
a
group
and
discuss
in
a
search
that
said.
Equity
was
one
of
its
biggest
criteria
based
on
the
goals
of
evanston,
and
the
equity
statement
was
put
out
that
we
didn't
have
representation
from
the
equity
committee
and
maybe
xyz,
don't
know
what
it
is
not
discussing
it,
but
we're
not
taking.
I
D
Well,
maybe
one
of
the
things
from
my
perspective
that
maybe
people
are
feeling
that
way
is
that
maybe
we
could
recommend
to
the
city
that
they
rethink
their
process.
If
that's
what
people
are
asking,
I
mean,
I
think
that
that
would
be
a
role
for
us
to
recommend
if
the
commission
feels
that
way,
if
everybody
that
to
say
that
that
there's
a
question
about
the
process
from
the
community
and
that
they
need
to
reconsider
the
process
that
they
use,
that
to
me
would
be
the
way
to
go.
B
I
would
agree
with
that.
I
mean
I
think,
that
for
the
city
council
in
in
these
high
res
hiring
decisions
that
we
have,
especially
because
of
covid,
but
also
evolving
as
we
go
along.
I
like
alderman
holmes
and
alderman
grover
was
part
of
hiring
two
other
prior
city
managers
and
the
first
one
we
had
the
the
community
forum
happened
after
we
had
selected
the
finalist.
B
It
was
used
kind
of
to
introduce
the
candidate
to
the
community,
and
there
was
not
a
lot
of
community
input
taken
in
this
this
process.
The
fact
that
we
had
community
panels,
we
did
a
community
survey
that
there
was
a
community
forum
while
we
still
had
finalists
is
different
than
it
was
in
prior
times.
B
So
I
think
getting
more
input
in
terms
of
what
this
commission
thinks
would
be
important
in
terms
of
information
that
gets
that
the
city
council
considers
in
its
decision
making
is
it
as
as
as
the
commission
that
is
looking
at
equity,
very
particularly
providing
that
feedback
to
the
city.
Council,
I
think,
is
very
important.
F
Right,
which
was
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
even
was
involved
and
worked
with
aldermen
homes
in
creating
a
civic
engagement
policy,
because
we
are
evolving,
we
are
learning
and
so
we're
not.
You
know
we're
not
about
status
quo
and
continuing
to
do
what
we've
done
in
the
past,
because
we
know
that
even
our
great
city
has
passed
and
practiced
policies
and
practices
again
that
have
been.
F
You
know:
harmful,
we've,
redlined,
we've
done
a
number
of
things,
and
so
you
know
I
felt
like
this.
Commission
could
be
one
of
many
bodies
that
could
really
put
a
racial
equity
analysis
to
what
we
do
and
make
those
recommendations.
F
And
so
again
that's
why
and
I'll
get
over
my
frustration,
I'm
willing
to
work
like
everybody
else,
but
that's
why
we
we
really
jumped
at
the
opportunity
to
provide
our
lens
on
a
civic
engagement
policy,
because
there
are
probably
a
number
of
policies
and
practices
that
need
to
be
reevaluated,
and
I
think
this
is
one.
This
is
one
example
and
so
moving
forward.
You
know
to
not
get
stuck
here.
I
mean
with
you
jane
in
really
evaluating
our
purpose
and
our
our
power.
F
A
A
I've
made
some
notes
on
kind
of
collecting
ideas
about
what
the
outcomes
would
be
from
a
retreat,
and
please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
or
add
to
this
one
was
understanding
what
else
is
happening
in
the
city
with
regard
to
equity
efforts
and
the
best
way
to
stay
informed
of
what
the
city
is
doing
to
your
point
max
understanding
or
determining
our
role
in
our
power.
A
And
what
would
the
community
expect
of
the
commission
as
part
of
thinking
about
our
mission
and
goals,
looking
at
alejandra
our
again,
our
purpose,
which
could
lead
into
some
real
strategic
planning
and
then
a
tangible
work
plan
was
with
a
work
plan
for
the
next
three
years.
We
can
look
back
to
where
we
were
heading
the
last
time,
but
that
was
based
on
the
the
joyce
foundation's
kind
of
framework
for
an
equity
lens.
A
We
may
decide
that
our
work
plan
looks
different
going
forward
and
then
to
your
point,
kimberly
with
a
why
it's?
What
can
we
can
we
develop
together
some
circumstances
for
how
we
respond
to
events
in
the
community?
What
kinds
of
things
would
we
convene
a
special
war
and
emergency
meeting
for,
and
how
would
we
handle
those
events
so
that
we
can
be
responsive
so
that
we
can
be
upfront
and
make
statements
and
and
make
statements
to
the
community
about
where
this
commission
is
on
things?
A
So
what
else
are
we
thinking
that
we
would
look
for
for
outcomes
from
a
retreat?
It's
a
it's
a
full
agenda
already
and
again,
most
of
it's
going
to
be
about
our
mission,
purpose
mission
and
purpose.
C
What
what
role
are
you
holding
the
city
council
accountable?
For
I
mean
they
have
these
goals,
but
I
mean
I
don't
think
that
they
really
this
year
yet
evaluated
goals.
So
I
mean,
I
guess,
there's
an
opportunity
there
to
think
about.
How
do
you
put
the
city
council
and
make
state
council
accountable
for
some
of
these
things
as
well.
A
Can
we
talk
about
that
in
the
context
of
what
our
role
would
be
as
advocates
as
oversight,
the
holding
accountable,
the
oversight,
part
of
our
role,
our
function
and
then,
of
course,
supporting
the
good
stuff?
That's
happening.
So
it's
not
all
going
to
be
a
negative
negative
criticism
about
what's
not
happening,
but
rather
supporting
also
the
good
stuff.
That's
already
underway.
F
And
I
wouldn't
necessarily
say
negative:
I
think
we
need
to
come
with
our
own
analysis.
Even
if
it's
a
compassionate
critique.
Thank
you.
We
can't
continue
to
do
the
things
that
are
not
working
for
people,
yes,
and
just
to
just
to
remind
it
wasn't
the
joyce
foundation.
I
believe
it
was
a
margarite
casey
foundation,
casey
foundation.
Thank
you.
C
C
I
mean,
I
think,
what
I
think.
What
needs
to
think
about
you
all
is.
Do
you
do
that
analysis
for
things
such
as
that,
so
that
the
city
council
has
a
report
from
you
saying
you
know
we
did
this
analysis
of
the
city
manager,
recruitment.
We
spoke
to
the
aldermen,
we
spoke
to
the
community.
We
spoke
to
the
employees,
about
the
process
and-
and
you
work
through
that
that
framework
that
you
speak
to,
if
you
work
through
this
framework,
it
will
then
be
able
to
say
here's
how
you
need
to
you
know.
C
We
recommend
these
things
to
be
thought
through
in
the
future,
because
then
you're
setting
you're
giving
them
policy
decisions
to
think
about
that
they
can
then
either
accept
or
not
accept,
but
that's
usually
how
that
framework
would
work.
You
all
will
have
to
do
it.
It's
not.
You
know
giving
it
to
someone
else
to
do
will
be
something
that
you
would
have
to
to
practice
as
well.
So
just
something
to
think
about.
A
All
right,
and
by
my
reckoning,
we've
got
a
little
more
than
three
weeks
to
pull
together
a
an
agenda
for
the
retreat
and
identify
facilitators,
so
we're
looking.
Can
we
agree
that
we're
looking
for
somebody
to
help
us
facilitate
this
conversation
who
has
experience
in
mission
and
goals,
strategic
planning,
facilitation.
F
I
would
also
add
the
government
piece
I
mean
there's
a
number
of
nonprofit
consultants
who
do
mission
and
vision.
I
think
our
work
is
somewhat
different
in
that
we're
talking
about
working
within
a
municipal
and
government
structure,
a
municipal,
I'm
sorry
and
a
commission
structure.
I
think
that's
a.
A
Yeah,
a
facilitator
who
is
skilled
in
facilitating
the
mission
and
vision
the
goal
setting
part
of
this
retreat,
but
also,
as
alejandro
said,
with
an
eye
towards
governmental
structure,
who's
familiar.
I
J
Yes,
can
I
ask
a
question
about
the
professor
who
kimberly
spoke
to
us
the
last
meeting.
C
Yeah,
so
we
are
working
on
doing
our
first
equity
training
with
our
department
heads
in
the
next
few
weeks.
So
we
will
be
talking
about
just
exactly
what
you
are
doing
today,
we'll
be
doing
that
at
the
department
head
level
and
then
we're
going
to
start
preparing
to
put
together
our
internal
staff
committee
that
will
be
structured
to
start
reviewing
policies
and
practices.
J
J
Let
me
for
me,
you
know
the
mission
and
the
vision
is
critically
important,
but
also
kind
of
maybe
this
is
getting
to
goals.
But
what
does
that
look
like
what
would
be
different
six
months
from
now
or
a
year
from
now?
What
does
success
mean
like
if
we
are
successful?
J
What's
going
to
be
in
place
that
isn't
in
place
now
or
what's
going
to
be
different?
That
isn't
now
like
to
me,
that's
kind
of
where
I
I
want
to
head,
but
I
I
don't
know
if
that's
too
much
to
say,
but
I
think
we
could
work
a
lot
on
our
mission
and
our
vision,
but
I
think
there's
a
process
piece
here
too.
That's
really
important
that
I
think
goes
really
hand
in
hand
with
what's
happening
already
in
the
city.
J
That's
how
I'm
viewing
it.
So
I
I
I
don't.
I
don't
want
us
to
be
so
different
or
separate
from
what
already
has
been
going
on
and
worked
on
so
hard.
I
guess
within
the
city.
Does
that
make
sense
to
people?
I
don't
know
if
that
makes
any
sense
to
anyone,
but
that's
what
I'm
wondering
about
is.
I
don't
want
to
lose
all
the
not
lose.
I
don't
want
disconnect
from
what's
already
going
on.
B
So
kathy
kathy,
can
I
just
effort
to
clarify
for
me,
so
what
do
you
think
would
be
disconnecting
about
having
what's
the
disconnect?
I
I
may.
I
think
I
missed
that.
Well,
I
guess
I.
J
Hear
that
kimberly's
working
with
the
professor's
name
escapes
me,
but
who
spoke
to
us
at
our
last
meeting
and
she's
doing
strategy
and
she's
doing
you
know
work
with
folks
who
have
signed
up
and
and
they're
moving
things
forward
with
internally
within
the
staff
kimberly,
I'm
kimberly
r.
If
I'm
speaking,
if
I'm
misinterpreting
what
you've
said,
then
please
straighten
me
out,
but
so
yeah.
J
If
I
get,
I
guess
I
wanna.
I
wanna
understand
that
so
that
we're,
I
think,
what
you're
saying
kathy
some
way.
If
does
that
make
sense?
Maybe
I'm
I
may
be
misunderstanding
kind
of
kimberly,
but
but
I
like,
if
you're
already,
if
the
city
is
already
doing
internal
work,
we
should
know
we
should,
and
we
don't
understand
where
that
is
yeah
hasn't
started,
yeah
well,
but
even
even
as
you're
setting
out
your
strategy
like
shouldn't
shouldn't.
We
have
that
in
mind.
C
It's
capacity
too
so
I
mean
I,
I
think
your
conversation
that
you
all
are
trying
to
have
on
the
seventh
is
it's
something
that
you
all
have
to
say.
Who
you
are?
I
don't
want
to
be
the
one
to
say:
you
must
use
this
person,
but
I
also
recognize
we
have
community
partners
like
yw
ca
here
you
have
eileen
on
the
call.
C
But
I
think
the
the
thing
is
is
that
I
don't
one
I
know
kathleen
could
not
take
on
a
commission
on
top
of
the
city
work,
because
that
is
asking
for
a
lot
of
us,
but
I
definitely
know
like
identifying
other
partners
in
the
community
that
can
help
us
and
working
together
is
something
that
you
know.
I
think
is
more
ideal
just
to
make
sure
that
everyone
is
using
the
same
common
language
and
have
the
same
expectations.
D
I
I
may
be
speaking
out
of
term,
but
I
don't
know
including
the
why
I'm
not
sure
if
there's
anybody
else
in
the
community
who's
done
government
work
is
there.
I
mean
if
so
well,.
C
Yeah
there's
other
people.
I
spoke
to
a
couple
other
individuals,
but
they're
I
mean
their
schedule
has
is
pretty
much
until
next
year.
I
mean
the
individuals
I've
spoken
with.
Who
who
does
this
work
in
this
and
who
live
in
this
community
as
well?
They
are
not
available
because
of
just
the
the
number
of
interests
in
this
work.
Right
now
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
communities
who
are
like
now
looking
at
equity
and
they
don't
even
have
this
committee
or
anything
in
place.
So
yeah
there
are
other
people,
it's
just
you
know.
C
K
It's
not
my
best,
it's
not
my
best
thing.
One
of
the
names
does
work
with
me,
but
I
would
also
give
you
other
names.
There
are
people
that
do
this
really
well
with
both
the
equity
and
the
government
focus,
and
I
think.
A
Thank
you
and
I
agree
that
the
people
who
are
doing
this
kind
of
facilitation
they
are
in
such
demand
right
now
and
and
so
be
prepared
for
the
possibility
that
we
can't
do
this
on
the
seventh,
because
we
don't
have
anybody
to
help
us
facilitate
because
they're
just
not
available.
But
thank
you
eileen
for
the
names
and
thank
you
kimberly
for
following
up
and
chasing
down
a
facilitator
for
us
who's
going
to
achieve
all
of
our
goals
of
mission,
vision,
government
and
process.
F
I
mean
what
we're
looking
for
is
somebody
who's,
an
excellent
facilitator
with
that
skill
set
right
and
with
the
racial
equity
framework
right
and
then
then
there's
the
implementation
right,
and
so
obviously
we
would
benefit
from
somebody
like
the
professor
from
uic
who's
already
in
that
space
and,
if
she's
a
good
facilitator.
But
if
we
can't
have
that
and
we
just
need
to
find
ourselves
a
strong
facilitator.
F
A
And
kathleen
yang
clayton
gets
her
name
at
uic
and
yeah
kathy
clinton
gained,
clayton
and,
and
I
just
prefer
to
walk
to
waukegan.
The
city
of
waukegan
is
also
interested
and
she's
just
does
not
have
the
capacity
to
work
with
another
municipality
right
now.
Yeah.
C
D
B
C
J
K
A
Worry
thanks,
eileen,
it's
hard
to
it's
hard
to
orchestrate
a
facilitator
by
committee
too
so,
recommendations,
let's
see
who's
available
and
who
might
be
the
best
fit
for
this,
and
we've
already
set
out
our
criteria
for
the
facilitator,
and
I
think
we
can
defer
to
you
kimberly
on
on
making
a
good
decision
on
this
anything
else
on
the
retreat,
and
I
think
I
need
to
share
notes
on
on
what
we
hope
to
cover
in
the
retreat.
A
I
don't
know
if
we
can
do
it
in
three
hours
frankly,
but
we'll
work
with
the
facilitator
in
short
order,
if
that's
possible
anything
else
on
the
retreat.
That's
on
your
mind
all
right.
I
think
it
may
be
useful
to
maybe
circulate
an
agenda
for
the
retreat
in
advance
just
to
make
sure
we're
on
the
right
track
together,
because
we
all
have
such
different
ideas
about.
It
seems
what
we
want
the
commission
to
do.
A
J
For
just
the
folks
that
have
stuck
with
us
and
that
are
are
listening
some
names,
I
recognize
some
names,
I
don't,
but
you
know,
I
think,
one
of
the
things
that
we
all
feel
is
that
we
we
want
to
be
not
speaking
for,
but
we
certainly
want
to
know
what
you
know
if
there
are
people
who
want
us
to
be
doing
something,
we
want
to
know
that
so
for
anyone
who's
listening
that
says,
you
know
I
really
wish
they.
J
You
know
with
as
much
input
from
the
folks
that
are
really
you
know
that
are
that.
Are
that
are
willing
to
be
here
at
what
is
at
eight
o'clock
on
a
on
a
thursday
night
and
not
tuned
in
to
two
different
political
town
halls,
so
they
their
their
views
are,
are
welcome.
I
think-
and
I
I
hope
for
all
of
us.
You
know
if
you
know
somebody
on
the
commission
and
you
want
to
share
your
view.
I
would
hope
that
we
would
all
be.
A
Welcoming
then
I'm
going
to
react
there
we
go.
Thank
you
kathy
anything
else
on
the
on
the
retreat
all
right.
So
next
thing
would
be
a
draft
agenda
to
circulate
and
get
feedback
on
that
and
identifying
a
facilitator.
F
A
A
Day
yeah,
we
can
work
the
facilitator
to
decide
what
we
can
fit
into
a
a
90,
90-minute
or
two-hour
session,
and
what
our
intentions
allow
us
to
do.
K
D
A
All
right
next
agenda
item:
can
we
move
on
a
working
group
update?
Is
that
what
is
that?
Is
that
evanston
truth?
I
would
imagine
your
work
in
the
internally.
F
We
should
I'm
happy,
you
know
to
do
this
again
with
eileen
and
for
us
to
come
up
with
a
date
before
the
next
meeting
that
we
would
invite
you
to
that.
We
would
invite
members
to
participate.
We
need
to
do
the
work
in
between
commission
meetings
to
get
things
moving.
C
Do
you
want
to
use
the
next
meeting
in
november
for
your
second
part
of
the
retreat,
if
necessary,
so
that
or
do
you
think
having
that
at
night
would
be
just
too
much.
H
J
A
C
Yeah,
so
I
sent
you
all
some
applicants
to
give
you
give
you
give
your
opportunity
give
me
feedback,
alejandra
and
jane,
but
I
also,
since
we
have
a
number
of
people
who
are
here
who
seem
very
engaged
in
this.
We
have
a
ton
of
boards
and
commissions
that
are
always
looking
for
new
members,
even
when
they
are
not
currently
vacancies.
I
would
encourage
the
people
to
please
go
to
the
ceo
evanston's
website
to
see
what
boards
and
commissions
we
have
available.
C
I
think
that's
something
that
you
know
we
can
discuss
at
a
later
time
with
this
commission
is
that
we
don't
have
a
great
representation
of
certain
boards
and
commission
just
due
to
the
fact
that
there's
no
applicant
pulled
with
that
death,
and
so
how
could
we
something
I'm
struggling
with
is
how
do
we
look
at
boards
and
commissions
as
a
whole?
I
mean
because
they
are
part
of
the
community
feedback
loop
in
a
sense.
So
that
is
something
that
I
would
love
to
work
with.
C
You
all
to
think
more
about
is
how
we
look
at
our
boards
and
commissions.
Are
they
effective
the
way
they're
structured,
and
how
do
we
bring
in
more
diverse
voices
to
these
boards
and
commissions
that
are
typically,
you
know
some
of
them
all
white,
unfortunately,
in
older
individuals,
just
because
of
the
the
topic,
so
something
that
I
would
love
to
share
with
you
all,
hopefully,
in
the
future,
once
we
get
a
little
more
into
what
your
goals
and
objectives
are
for
the
next
year
and
so
forth,.
A
Anything
else.
All
right
is
there
a
motion
to
adjourn
us
until
our
retreat
on
the
seventh.
I
move
adjournment
for
a
second
second,
all
in
favor,
aye
aye
all
right!
Thank
you.
Everyone,
I'm
tonight
see
you
on
the
seventh
and
I
hope
in
the
meantime
be
well.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Bye.
Everyone.