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From YouTube: Equity and Empowerment Commission - May. 19, 2022
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The Equity and Empowerment Commission discuss the community survey and the Equity Scorecard they are developing.
E
A
D
D
A
A
Members
of
our
commission.
I
mean,
I
don't
know
you
know
like
we're
working
on
the
systemic
stuff,
but
then
that
day-to-day
interactional
in
your
face
harmful
stuff
yeah.
You
know
it
knocks
us
all
in
the
knees
and
makes
us
buckle
so
and
it
you
know,
I
am
hoping
that
you
know
as
part
of
the
council,
but
also
as
a
black
parent
in
our
schools.
A
I
am
hoping
that
this
you
know
ignites
in
the
community,
some
of
the
work
that
you
know
we
sit
on
this
volunteer
board
every
month
to
do,
but
you
know
our
real
look
inwards
and
look
at
how
we
can
sort
of
change
moving
forward,
but
yeah.
I
didn't.
I
didn't
want
to
move
forward
without
taking
a
moment
to
recognize
that,
because
that's
this
is
a
hard
period
for
everyone,
but
well
particularly
for
the
black
community.
So.
A
A
A
So
welcome
to
the
to
the
council-
and
you
know
we
have
some
items
we
want
to
chat
with,
because
I
think
this
group
just
recently
recognized
that
the
equity
and
empowerment
commission
actually
was
written
into
the
environmental
justice
resolution
as
having
a
role
and
so
look
at
me
behind
the
eighth
ball,
just
figuring
that
out
so
we'll
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
and
item
to
see
all
right.
Oh
yeah,
we
have
a
second
person,
hi
eileen
hi,.
C
All
I
just
wanted
to
eileen
hogan
heinemann
from
ywca.
I
just
wanted
to
find
out
if
there's
an
end
date
on
the
equity
survey-
and
I
know
you're
going
to
be
talking
about
that
later,
but
just
because
we
want
to
keep
posting
it
on
our
social
media
and
whatnot.
But
I
didn't
want
to
go
past
when
it's
supposed
to
be
done.
A
The
survey
you
know,
demographics
of
who
we're
hitting
so
that
we
can
then
target
groups
that
we're
not
hearing
from
as
we
go
along,
which
is
why
we're
going
to
do
this
update
consistently,
and
I
actually
I
get
updates
once
a
week.
So
I
will
kind
of
be
looking
at
that
and
kind
of
processing
in
between
with
lachandra
and
thinking
about
who
we
can
help
get
get
us
to
those
those
population
pockets
that
we're
not
getting
to.
So
there
is
no
date.
I'm
I'm
not
here
for
arbitrary
end
leads.
B
H
B
B
H
B
That
way
and
the
city
of
evanston
is
about
16,
so
it's
a
little
bit
low
but
close
for
hispanic
or
latinx
6.5
of
respondents
and
that's
and
hispanic
or
latino
make
up
11
or
12
of
evanston,
depending
on
how
you
round
so
a
little
bit
low
there
as
well
as
far
as
household
income
goes,
I
won't
bounce
all
around
in
the
same
way.
I
did
there,
but
it's
pretty
similar
to
kind
of
the
representative
data
that
I
was
able
to
find.
G
C
B
And
this
is
data
from
data
usa
for
all
of
evanston,
and
it
shows
that
a
pretty
similar
trend
with
a
curve
kind
of
peaking
around
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
income
and
then
also
a
large
portion
of
residents
making
over
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
here
in
household
income.
And
you
can
see
that
as
well
in
the
respondent.
B
As
far
as
age
goes,
I
think
the
big
the
main
takeaway
is
that
not
very
many
young
people
in
the
under
16
16
to
21
21,
to
25
22
to
25
and
26
to
35
have
responded.
I'm
sorry,
there's
a
siren
if
you
can
hear
that,
and
so
this
is
from
data
usa
as
well,
and
this
shows
basically
that
they're
we
should
be
shooting
for
roughly
equal
from
18
to
45
on.
B
B
A
Thank
you,
matt,
and
so
other
different
things
will
stand
out
to
different
people.
So
please
don't
let
my
list
be
the
main
thing,
but
also
recognizing
that
we
can't
you
know
in
any
given
month.
If
we're
trying
to
push
a
specific
push,
we
can't
cover
everybody,
but
the
things
that
popped
out
to
me
is
that
our
our
our
outreach
and
I'm
going
to
always
put
the
the
onus
on
the
system
and
not
on
the
people.
So
our
outreach
to
the
hispanic
population
is
lacking.
A
Our
outreach
to
the
youth
population
is
lacking
and
our
outreach
to
folks
who,
rent
or
own
their
home
is
like
I'm
sorry,
rent
their
home.
Sorry
is
lacking
and
so
part
of
how
I'm
gonna
run.
This
is
kind
of
every
month
when
we
meet
this
stuff
in
between,
but
like
try
to
push
you
guys
to
brainstorm
as
a
group.
A
What
can
we
do
to
sort
of
fill
the
gaps
that
we're
seeing?
And
you
know
over
the
next
couple
of
months,
we'll
kind
of
target
certain
gaps
as
well
as
400
is
diddly
squat
right
for
our
community.
So
there's
a
there's,
a
general
push
that
we
need.
More
so
what
events
are
coming
up?
What
things
are
what
people
are
gathering
where?
What
things
coming
up
that
you
know
of
that
will
help
us
address
the
general
response
rate
as
well
as
how
can
we
get
to
I'm
going
to
name
those
three?
A
E
E
How
do
we
feel
about
doing
some
specific
outreach
to
northwestern
students
who
are
also
renters,
so
they
hit
a
different
kind
of
demographic,
a
different
profile
of
renters
in
our
community,
but
we
have
students
living
off.
Campus
is
probably
a
couple
thousand
and
it
wouldn't
be
hard
to
drop
flyers
at
some
of
the
off-campus
housing
in
the
first
fifth
and
seventh
wards
to
encourage
them
to
also
fill
out
the
the
survey.
But
that
would
get
responses
from
many
student
residents
who
won't
be
with
us
by
the
end
of
the
year.
E
E
E
I
don't
know
the
city,
the
city,
maybe
the
city
has
some
resources
too
for
tenants
it
could
be
posted
on
that
the
web
page
there.
I
know,
there's
a
landlord-tenant
ordinance
and
some
other
resources
the
city
has.
So
perhaps
this
could
go
there
for
tenants,
renters
who
are
looking
for
information.
They
could
find
this
as
well.
The
survey
just
some
off
the
cuff
more
will
occur
to
me
because
it
always
does
once
we've.
A
So
I
want
to
kind
of
rip
off
a
couple
of
things
she
said
there,
so
I
was
actually
thinking
the
same
thing
with
the
end
of
the
semester.
Slash
quarter
happening
soon.
Both
you
know
across
northwestern,
which
is
a
quarter
system,
the
high
school,
which
is
on
a
a
quarter
of
the
semester
system,
but
a
couple
of
things
one.
A
A
Yeah
yeah,
and
so
I
will
reach
out
to
the
communications
person
at
northwestern.
If
anybody
has
any
other
ideas
how
to
get
it
there
and
then,
interestingly
enough,
I
have
another
northwestern
contact
that
could
potentially
get
us
into
the
high
school,
and
I
know
a
couple
of
high
school
teachers
that
I
will
try
that
route.
You
know
asking
their
their
students
to
to
kind
of
you
know,
do
the
civic
thing
and
you
know
let
their
voice
be
heard.
A
There's
a
northwestern
high
school
liaison
to
the
person
sitting
there,
who
has
helped
get
me
voices
of
students
in
the
past,
and
so
I
can
try
that
if
anybody
else
has
any
contacts
knows
any
teachers.
This
is
where
a
personal
ask
is
better.
So,
rather
than
having
me
ask
somebody,
I
don't
know
if
you
know
them
sending
that
same
email,
that
I
asked
you
guys
to
send
out
to
people.
You
know
again
targeting
anyone
who
you
think
can
get
us
in
contact
with
students
and
in
particular
seniors
right.
A
Like
I
don't
know,
I'm
guessing
a
14
year
old
doesn't
really
give
a
about
like
youth
employment.
Yet
I
don't
know:
maybe
they
maybe
they
do
but
like
the
16
year
old
is
going
to
start
thinking
about
that
right.
Like
sorry,
the
18
year
old,
who's
about
to
graduate
is
really
going
to
start
thinking
about
that
and
have
have
it.
You
know,
have
the
stuff
to
tell
us
about
so
or
you
know
the
14
year
old
might
care
about
employment
in
the
summer,
and
that
might
be
a
valid
thing.
A
A
E
Maybe
there's
a
way
to
talk
to
somebody
in
community
development
in
johanna,
leonard's,
division.
Sarah
flax
might
know:
if
there's
anybody
who
can
connect
us
to
landlords,
they
certainly
show
up
to
object
when
we
talk
about
licensing
or
registering
landlords,
so
we've
got
them
on
public
record.
In
that
way
there
are
a
couple
events
coming
up.
E
A
B
A
C
A
A
What's
the
event,
it's
so
d65
ptas
work
for
five
years
to
create
a
more
equitable
pt
across
all
the
schools,
so
that
one
school
wasn't
raising.
You
know
80
something
thousand
dollars
while
another
one
was
raising
nine
a
year,
and
so
now
it's
called
pepfar
pta
equity
project
and
so
they're
having
one
big
festival,
event,
fundraiser
type
thing
at
the
end
of
the
school
year,
and
so
yes
thank
you
for
that
idea.
That's
excellent!
A
You
know
I
had
I
had
you
know
made
sure
we
had
several
latinx
business
owners
as
well
as
church
affiliations
in
my
kind
of
email
to
the
community
that
went
out
to
90,
but
I
will
once
again
try
to
send
a
separate,
not
like
a
mass
email
that
goes
out
to
everybody.
I
want
it.
I
want
to
reinforce
that
up.
A
A
E
A
Yeah,
let
me
think
about,
I
have
to
be
fair.
I
haven't
gone.
I've
been
focused
on
the
demographics,
as
opposed
to
like
focusing
on
the
responses,
except
for
one
where
you
know,
like
30
of
our
town
doesn't
really
give
a
or
doesn't
think
that
equity
is
a
problem
or
that
it's
a
government
responsibility
anyway.
That
one
was
like
twist
but
other
than
that.
One
that
slapped
me
in
the
face.
A
I
haven't
really
been
paying
attention,
so
I
think
there
is
some
possibility
there
jane
that,
like
a
couple
of
things
that
we
could
use
in
a
marketing
type
way
like
hey
x,
percentage
of
our
of
our
community
thinks
x,
you
know
what
do
you
think
you
know?
Click
here
to-
or
you
know,
use
this
qr
code
here
to,
and
so
I
think
we
can
use
it,
and
I
just
haven't,
looked
at
the
data
enough
to
be
able
to
kind
of
figure
out
which
one
of
those,
but
again
that's
another
great
idea.
A
All
right,
so,
if
there's
nothing
else
on
this
I'd
like
to
slip
one
thing
into
the
agenda,
while
it's
on
my
mind,
because
it's
quick
and
it's
more
of
a
it's
all
more
of
a
homework
for
you
man,
so
kimberly
hasn't
been
here
a
couple
of
sessions
and
I
know
way
back
in
when
not
back
in
march,
but
in
february-
or
so
I
don't
know
whatever.
When
alejandra
was
leaving,
and
we
were
asking
who
was
interested
in
stepping
up,
she
said
she
would
be
moving.
B
A
Okay,
so
I
don't
I
mean
I
don't
know
how
that
works.
Is
that
just
up
to
me
I
mean
I
happy
to
email
her,
but
I
just
want
to
check.
I
knew
she
was
moving
at
some
point
in
time.
I'm
just
checking
in
not
trying
to
push
anybody
at
the
door
for
sure
for
sure,
but
I
feel
like
the
last
few
sessions
we
have
been
struggling
just
to
meet
coram
and
essentially
we're.
You
know
we're
a
couple.
A
A
I
can't
even
remember
a
name,
but
I
know
there
was
somebody
who
put
in
an
application
for
to
be
on
this
committee
like
right
as
we
were
selecting
the
new
folks
who
came
on
already,
and
so
I
don't
even
know
that
person
has
been
reviewed
because
at
that
point
we
kind
of
decided,
and
so
it's
kind
of
checking
in
with
whatever
that
repository
of
applications
are
see.
If
we
have
anybody
else
and
then
like
trying
to
get
that
before
the
mayor
for
some
appointment,
because
we
are
seeming
to
be
scripting,
our
quorum.
C
A
That's
where
a
few
people
short,
so
I
want
to
slip
that
in
it's
not
a
huge
discussion,
but
if
you
can
kind
of
check
in
on
that-
and
you
can
just
email
me-
and
let
me
know
if
we
have
anybody
else
besides-
that
one,
it
was
a
gentleman.
I
can't
for
the
life
of
me,
remember
his
name,
so
there
should
be
at
least
one
person.
He
may
not
be
interested
still
it's
four
months
later
or
whatever
and
see
if
anybody
else
has
applied,
and
then
we
can
kind
of
put
out
a
collective
call
for
applicants.
A
If
you
guys
know
of
anybody,
you
think
would
make
a
good
addition
to
our
team.
Please
share
it,
but
at
the
same
time
I
really
like
to
put
this
call
out
to
the
community.
Not
I
know
a
friend
who
and
like
you
know,
people
always
get
on
these
things
who
are
connected
in
some
way.
The
point
is,
it
should
be
open
to
the
entire
community,
not
like,
because
you're
connected
so.
A
I'll
just
slip
that
in
all
right,
so
the
equity
scorecard
test
and
before
we
start
on
the
equity
scorecard
test
itself,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
anybody
wasn't
here
last
week,
but
the
whole
point
of
today
is
that
we,
so
we
felt
like
we
and
we
we
may
prove
this.
The
whole
point
of
today
is
to
break
the
equity
scorecard
model
that
we
have
right.
Like
you
test
it,
you
pilot
it.
You
see
what
you
try
to
run.
A
A
We
find
ourselves,
you
know
in
round
three
of
this
and
I
I'm
going
to
honestly
say
I
had
a
lot
to
say
about
the
first
one,
because
I
followed
it
because
we
were
all
trapped
in
our
house
with
covet.
I
had
somewhat
to
say
about
the
second
one.
I
don't
have
a
lot
to
say
about
this
one,
because,
honestly,
I
have
been
too
wrapped
up
with
a
ton
of
other.
A
A
Some
level
of
the
city
finds
itself
in
a
in
a
space
where
they're
not
happy
with
how
things
have
gone
and
again,
I'm
not
commenting
here
because
I
haven't
followed
it,
but
as
I
look
at
the
scorecard,
I'm
like
the
scorecard
doesn't
really
give
us
room
to
address
this
in
the
first
fashion,
and
it
just
strikes
me
as
interesting,
because
here
we
are
again
with
some
level
of
unhappiness
right,
I'm
not
speaking
to
that
right.
Now,
I'm
focusing
focusing
on
the
systems,
but
the
thing
we
created,
which
is
not
useless
right.
A
It
has
its,
it
has
its
uses
and
it
has.
Its
situation
doesn't
address
the
first
issue
that
drove
us
to
create
it
in
the
first
place,
and
so
I
kind
of
want
to
think
about
that
like
out
like
together
out
loud,
because
you
know
even
the
scorecard
at
90
percent.
If
I
could
go
back
and
have
it,
you
know
at
100
percent
four
months
ago,
you
know
when
they
were
starting
this
new
wave.
A
It
doesn't
present
a
way
for
us
to
address
this
if
we
were
to
do
a
scorecard
and
if,
if,
if
I
you
know,
somebody
like,
we
collectively
decided
to
follow
this
process
from
the
beginning.
You
know.
Turning
in
this
now
is
too
late
or
turning
in
the
steam
about
two
weeks
ago
is
too
late.
We
are
not
allowed
to
be
in
the
closed
session,
and
so
I
guess
I
want
to
bring
that
up,
because
this
was
one
of
the
original
things
that
drove
us
to
create.
A
A
The
eec's
role
in
things
like
like
in
major
decisions
of
and
again
role,
not
meaning
we
get
a
vote
right
like
I'm,
not
I
mean.
Maybe
somebody
out.
There
is
pretty
big
like
that,
but
like
what
works,
to
get
a
collective
weigh-in
of
the
eec
in
something
like
this,
because
this
scorecard
doesn't
do
it
for
the
situation.
G
A
A
There's
a
finance
guy
there
right,
because
if
you
can't
pay
for
it,
if
it
doesn't
make
money,
we're
not
doing
it
so
the
finance
guy
is
in
every
meeting
and
ultimately
that's
my
goal
for
how
we
see
equity
right,
there's
an
equity
person
in
every
meeting
I
didn't
mean
to
say
that
it
was
a
guy
doing
all
the
finance
finance
person
in
every
meeting,
because
they're
just
shining
that
light.
Oh,
that
doesn't
make
financial
sense.
Oh,
that
that's
that's
an
equity
problem.
There,
that's
an
equity
stumbling
block.
A
They
just
keep
shining
the
light
on
this,
and
so
you
know
I
guess
comes
I
keep
coming
back
to
that
in
my
mind,
even
if
an
equity
person
you
know
like
we
have
rules
the
council
votes
on
these
things.
The
mayor
votes
on
these
things,
I'm
not
necessarily
trying
to
touch
that.
I'm
trying
to
say
that,
like
there
are
other
people
in
that
room,
while
it's
going
on
not
just
those,
not
the
council
and
the
mayor,
what?
A
If
there
was
an
an
equity
lens
person
in
that,
and
not
only
for
this
kind
of
decision
right
like
I
guess
I
said,
I
have
very
little
to
say
about
this
particular
process,
because
I
haven't
been
following
it.
So
this
is
not
a
gripe
issue.
This
is
because
I've
had
graphics
in
the
past.
This
is
more
of
a
let's
look
at
the
process
and
we
don't
necessarily
have
to
answer
this
now.
A
A
E
In
an
ideal
world
we
wouldn't
need
a
specific
person
in
the
room.
Everybody
would
have
not
just
either
an
actual
scorecard
that
they
use
to
evaluate
projects
like
the
dapper
meetings
or
or
the
city
council.
Or
you
know
it's
a
desk.
It
could
be
a
desktop
reference
that
folks
refer
to
like
robert's
rules
of
order,
so
every
decision
kind
of
goes
through
this
or
you
know
in
and
in
the
ideal
world.
H
E
H
A
A
You
know,
it's
not
a
matter
of
like
oh,
the
person
said
equity
three
times
tick.
You
know
like
it
doesn't
work
like
that.
So
I
you
know
I
there
isn't
there
isn't
a
way.
You
know
this.
This
concept
has
been
along
for
a
long
time
if
it
was
as
quick,
you
know,
but
if
a
scorecard
looked
like
that,
you
know
it
would
have
been
created
for
all
of
all
of
us.
A
So
you
know,
unless
somebody
is
sort
of
trained
to
then
pull
out
the
problematic
pieces
and
sort
of
them
you
know
show
or
not,
probably
like
a
positive
like
hey
these
three
people
just
spoke
the
person
with
the
equity
lens,
just
like
the
person
with
the
finance
lens.
Often
you
ask
the
finance
person
to
say
hey
what
does
that
actually
mean
to
us
in
in
dollars
right
and
so,
like
you
ask
the
equity
person.
A
What
did
you
hear
like
what
translate
for
me,
because
I
don't
have
the
lens
translate
for
me,
what
how
you
interpreted
the
equity
chops,
the
lack
of
a
better
term
of
the
people
who
just
spoke
here,
and
I
don't
know,
that's
the
right
thing.
I
don't
know
that's
possible.
As
I
said,
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that.
D
D
I
think
the
difference,
though
too,
is
like
the
finance
people
are
like
looked
up
to
and
well
paid,
and
everyone
trusts
them
and
I
feel
like
when
it
comes
to
equity.
It's
the
opposite.
Like
oh
great
here
they
go,
you
know,
can
you
imagine
if
you
were
the
director
of
equity
or
something
and
you're
in
that
meeting?
D
A
So
and
jane
you're,
probably
our
closest
person
who's
actually
been
on
been
on
the
council
and
then
maybe
matt
and
I'm
you
know.
I
don't
know
if
the
press
people
are
here
today,
but
please
don't
go
say
carla,
said
that
because
this
has
been
a
pattern
recently
that
this
is
what's
going
to
happen
because
carla
just
not
about
to
say
this,
but
like.
A
What
are
the
criteria
about
the
people
being
in
the
room?
Let's
just
start
there
right
again,
I'm
not
talking
about
a
vote,
I'm
talking
about
other
people
being
in
the
room
if
we
can
kind
of
just
take
that
back
and
figure
out
that
like
is
it
even
something
that
we
can
consider
with
these
large
decisions
that
the
equity
person
is
the
room
to
give
their
opinion
based
on
what
is
heard
and
then
leave
the
room
for
the
vote
even
right,
but
like
that
you're
getting
the
voice
and
omar?
A
I'm
not
I'm
not
like
downplaying
what
you
said,
but
america
is
racist
period
and
so
like
we
can
at
least
start
getting
that
voice
in
the
room.
It
doesn't
mean
tomorrow
everybody
starts
paying
attention
to
the
voice,
but
again
it's
we
got
to
make
progress
forward,
and
so
I
guess
that
that's
just
my
thinking
if
anybody
has
any
other
ways
around
it,
but
I
want
to
point
out
that
we
didn't
didn't
exactly
solve
our
original
problem.
D
I
I
carl,
I
would
actually
say
I
think
we
should
do
that
and
maybe
two
like
have
two
or
three
of
us
there.
So
at
least
we
are
together
to
be
able
to
do,
and
I
think
that's
a
good
point
like
I
think
one
of
the
first
meetings
you
spoke
about
how
you
don't
like
robert's
rules
of
order
or
something
and.
F
D
D
Why
can't
we
see
it
like,
even
if
it's,
even
if
they're
discussing
salary
or
whatever
it's
like
that's
going
to
be
public
anyway,
so
why
can't
we
be
a
part
of
it
and
so
for
better
or
worse,
the
mayor
picked
nine
of
us
to
be
the
equity
people
in
this
city.
So
why
can't
some
of
us
be
in
those
at
least
listening
in
on
those
discussions
and
pointing
out
what
we
hear
based
on
our
expertise
and
experiences.
A
And
I
like
how
you
you,
you
kind
of
brought
another
closed
session,
because
I
was
trying
not
to
harp.
As
I
said,
I
I
really
have
not
followed
this
last
round.
I
just
haven't
had
the
energy
and
bandwidth,
so
I
like
how
you
broaden
it
because
I
I
know
this
is
not
just
a
situation
of
hiring
or
firing,
as
we've
had
to
do
a
person
on
an
su.
So
it
could
be
this
concept
of
we
have
these
closed
sessions
and
there
isn't.
A
You
know
there
isn't
a
lens
in
that
room
and
if
it's
a
matter
of
providing
the
lens
and
then
leaving,
we
don't
get
a
vote,
but
all
right.
So
if
jane
and
I'll
ask
this
this
con,
this
question
to
all
the
person
read
as
well,
but
yeah,
I
don't
know
what
the
city
guidelines
are
and
matt.
I
know
you
might
be
able
to
look
into
this
as
well
what
the
city
guidelines
are.
Who
gets
to
be
in
a
room
and
not
get
better?
I
know
there's
some
other
people
in
there.
A
I
don't
know
who
they
are,
don't
know
what
they
do,
but
it
just
made
me
a
good.
A
good
opportunity
for
us
to
you
know
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
ordinance
in
a
little
bit
and
the
discussion
that
has
started
between
devon
katie,
and
I
on
that,
and
it
may
be
something
else
to
be
put
into
the
audience
to
capture,
have
to
sit
with
situations
like
this
that
fall
out
of
the
school
part.
So
that's
the
last.
I
have
to
say
on
that
anybody
else
before
we
get
to
the.
E
Another
approach
is
to
get
in
the
hands
of
the
people
who
are
in
the
room,
the
tool,
the
scorecard
and,
and
it's
hard
to
know.
We
can't
know
what
happens
in
the
room,
but
if
they're
equipped
with
the
scorecard,
maybe
that
becomes
part
of
the
conversation
I
don't
know
which
of
the
council
members
are,
would
be
inclined
to
use
it
and
think
that
way
and.
A
Yeah
and
part
of
the
issue
there
is
that
yeah,
the
scorecard
is
only
good
if
you
speak
the
language
or
you
can
interpret
the
language
yeah
and
until
we
get
to
a
place
where
the
people
sitting
on
this
city
council
has
you
know
what
we
repeatedly
call
a
lens
right.
They
can
interpret
what
they
hear.
Not
just
somebody
said
the
word
equity
to
engage.
You
know
if
you
were
to
give
that
person
an
x
out
of
x
for
really
managing
that
question.
E
A
A
No,
which
hasn't
changed
since
last.
If
you
look
up
your
last
email,
you'll
get
that,
but
I
have
decided
so
we
were
kind
of
again
today
we're
gonna
practice
like
we're.
Gonna
roth
talk
out.
This
is
not
an
actual
scoring
of
this.
No
like
this
isn't
going
anywhere.
This
is
us
just
talking
it
through
right.
Like
we're
pretending
we
have
an
item,
we
did
not
go
and
talk
to
all
the
people
involved,
the
decision
makers
and
all
that
stuff.
But
again
it's
a
practice
session.
A
A
Matt
did
send
out
some
information
about
our
and
two
two
documents
in
the
this
week's
email
about
evanston's
anti-panhandling
strategy,
which
is
something
that
was
done,
I
think
last
january,
and
then
the
signs
that
went
up
or
maybe
not
last
channel,
that
seems
to
have
a
date
of
2001.
I
don't
know
it
was
posted
again.
A
Last
january,
I
don't
know
why
that's
where
I
picked
it
up
from
and
then
there
are
signs
that
you
know
went
up
in
our
community
a
couple
of
months
ago
as
well
as
I
added
the
panhandling
ordnance,
a
couple
of
things
I
just
like
to
lay
out
here,
because
these
definitions
were
important
and
it's
in.
I
only
discovered
it
from
the
ordnance
that
panhandling
you
know,
per
the
federal
guidelines
is
allowed.
It's
considered
freedom
of.
A
I
did
not
know
that,
like
asking
made
a
difference
or
whatever
so
when
you
hear
the
term
aggressive
panhandling,
I
think
it's
you
know
at
first.
I
got
mad
and
there's
definitely
a
reason
why
people
use
the
word
aggressive,
because
most
humans
have
a
general
idea
of
what
aggressive
means
and
we
take
that
meaning
with
us.
But
this
concept,
it's
the
concept
of
asking
versus
you
know
just
standing
there
looking
for
lawn.
A
So
I
kind
of
wanted
to
make
that
differentiation
to
people,
because
I
think
that
was
important
for
me
to
kind
of
understand
what
the
actual
legal
definition
for
whatever
it's
worth,
whether
we
should
have
a
legal
definition-
and
you
know
the
ordinance-
is
pretty
short
on
there,
where
he
talks
about
what
you
know.
What
what
the
requirement
I
mean,
what
the
what
the
rights
of
a
panhandler
are
or
not
and
and
then
I
did
send
a
picture.
Did
the
picture
come
over
matt?
I
was
a
picture.
A
H
A
Can
and
I'm
gonna
actually
I'm
gonna
share
it.
Then
I'm
gonna
share
a
picture
of
the
sign,
so
we
can
see
it
because
this
is
just
kind
of
par.
I
just
part
of
the
stuff
I
feel
like
everybody
needs
to
see
to
be
able
to
better
have
this
discussion
keep
reading
that.
While
I
look
for
the
picture,
my
sentiment.
A
Yeah
for
right
now
for
simplification
and
again
this
is
not
going
to
be
an
action.
I'm
not
going
to
turn
this
around
and
send
it
to
the
city
and
say
hey
we
scored
like
this
is
a
practice
messy
round.
I
just
want
to
be
clear
on
everybody,
I'm
going
to
share
my
so
this.
I
want
to
just
focus
on
the
signs.
The
most
recent
action
on
this
item
share
screen.
A
All
right,
so,
if
you
see
my
screen
for
anybody
who
hasn't
physically
seen,
the
signs
have
a
heart:
get
smart
as
evanston
panhandler
isn't
safe,
donate
to
social
services.
Service
organizations
today
need
and
then
something
for
the
folks
who
need
help,
call
this
number
and
then
there's
a
website
they
would
find
on
their.
You
know
reliable,
wi-fi
service,
I
don't
know
where
they
can
get
resources,
and
so
I
thought
this
was
interesting.
You
know
if
anybody
could
even
screenshot
what
they're
seeing
here.
So
I
can
click
off.
A
So
you
have
a
copy
of
this
because
it
was
interesting
to
me
personally
that
it
says
panhandling
isn't
safe,
even
though
federally
panhandling
is
is
a
right
and
a
law,
and
it
has
gone
all
the
way
up
to
the
supreme
court
all
right.
So
I'm
gonna
stop
that,
but
everybody
sees
the
signs
and
I'm
gonna
pull
up
now.
A
A
The
point
here
is
to
be
able
to
answer
like
if
I
were
sitting
with
the
person
who
started
this.
Could
I
get
this
answer
or
you
know
what
like?
They
wouldn't
even
know
that
or
so
again,
if
you
guys
understand
we're,
not
score
and
we're
kind
of
trying
to
see
if
we
would
be
able
to
get
this
information
all
right.
So
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen
again.
A
All
right
so
again
we're
talking
about
the
panhandling
signs,
not
the
ordinances
itself,
not
to
say
that
we
wouldn't
choose
to
put
all
that
together.
Sorry
everdraw
is
not
closing,
then
we
wouldn't
choose
to
put
that
all
together,
but
I
want
to
simplify
so
we
can
get
through
this
for
our
purposes.
All
right
so
were
key
stakeholders
engaged
when
they
were
making
this
decision,
and
so
we
would
identify
the
key
stakeholders
here
is
who.
D
A
A
Yeah,
no,
that's
exactly
it.
Unhoused
people,
you
even
use
the
right
language.
Thank
you
right.
Unhoused
people
and
the
citizens
right
like
for
whatever
my
personal
beliefs
are
about
the
fragile
people
who
are
calling
this
aggressive
panhandling
again,
that's
my
personal
beliefs.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
they
are
stakeholders.
Right,
maybe
you
know
aggressive
panhandling
is
real.
Maybe
people
are
getting.
I
don't
know,
we
don't
know
we're
not
here
to
judge
in
this
I
mean
I
judge
on
my
own
personal
time,
but
in
this
you
know
I
hate
a
judge.
A
They're
two
sets
of
stakeholders.
At
least
you
know
two
major
stakeholders.
There
might
be
some
other
ones,
unhoused
people,
and
then
this
the
the
residents
of
the
city,
and
so
I
would
be
interested
here
in
finding
out
like
where
is
this
information
coming
from
like?
If
I
were,
if
I
were
assigned
from
the
eec,
to
go
like
what
complaints
do
they
actually
have
from
the
residents
from
the
city?
Where
is
this
voice?
Coming
from
that?
E
Thanks
carlos,
so
this
looks
like
the
ordinance
was
from
2012
2013.
That
is,
and
I
would
have
been
on
the
council
then-
and
I
really
don't
remember-
I
think
I
vaguely
remember
there
being
complaints
about
aggressive
panhandling
downtown
in
the
downtown
area,
but
nowhere
else
in
the
city,
this
the
ordis,
obviously
prohibits
soliciting
everywhere
too.
That
is
the
door
to
door
before
nine
and
after
six
I
don't
recall
any
kind
of
meaningful
public
engagement
to
to
solicit
input
or
comments
on
the
panhandling
ordinance,
and
I
don't
recall
anybody
coming
to
council
to
offer.
E
But
then
again
it
was
nine
years
ago,
and
I
don't
remember
so
I
don't
remember
there
being
much
discussion
about
it
at
all,
all
right
and
so,
and
I
really
doubt
there
was
any
kind
of
community
engagement
on
it,
so
it
was
probably
responsive.
I
may
be.
I
may
be
wrong
about
this.
I
think
it
was
responsive
to
some
complaints
about
panhandling,
downtown.
A
A
This
would
lead
me
to
a
much
lower
score
than
you
know,
on
the
zero
to
five
range
than
a
higher
score,
and
so
again
the
whole
point.
At
the
end,
when
I
scroll
down
right,
there's
a
whole
comment
section
at
the
end,
which
partially
what
I'm
realizing
is
that
see.
This
is
the
whole
point
of
doing
this.
If
I
wanted
to
comment
on
this,
I
would
put
the
way
it's
going
to
be
it's
not
going
to
be
it's
going
to
be
formatted
like
this.
A
I
would
then
say
I'm
giving
it
a
zero
to
whatever,
and
I
would
type
in
here-
that's
not
going
to
be
in
there.
It's
gonna
be
shaded
over
the
box.
The
whole
thing,
but
I
will
type
in
here,
I'm
giving
it
a
zero,
because
I
learned
from
councilwoman
jay
grover
that,
like
there
was
feedback
from
the
city
members,
but
not
nothing
from
the
folks
who
were
most
affected
by
this.
The
other
thing
I
might
want.
A
Right
now,
we
may
have
had
a
situation
where
the
city
reached
out
in
a
future.
Evanston,
where
we're
trying
harder
reached
out
and
had
some
sent
matt
the
intern
out
to
hang
out
outside
of
starbucks
or
whole
foods
or
whatever
and
interview
a
few
people
and
talk
to
them
about
you,
know
we're
trying
to
create
the
balance
here.
What
are
the
you
know
like
you're
out
here,
asking?
A
What
are
the
things
that
you
need
now
that
you
couldn't
get
from
the
the
pantry
and
the
other
things
that
are
written
on
the
anti-panhandling,
which
are
kind
of
for
more
planning
needs
right,
oh
monday,
I'll
go
here
and
tuesday
I'll
go
hey.
If
I
can
get
transport
over
to
that
church
on
the
west,
south
west
side
of
town
or
whatever
right?
How
does
this?
Not
so?
A
We
might
have
heard
from
them
that
they
made
these
efforts
to
find
out,
and
so
they
may
have
just
spoken
to
them
and
nothing
was
done
to
address
it
and
we
might
end
up
somewhere
in
this
two
to
three
range
or
we
might
spoke
with
them,
and
then
you
know
matt
bringing
that
information
back.
They
have
that's,
maybe
where
the
the
phone
number
came
from
that
maybe
their
mitigation
factor.
I
don't
know,
but
are
we
generally
understanding
how
we
would
try
to
evaluate
and
ask
this
question
any
questions.
A
But
what
racial
ethnic
groups
are
currently
most
disadvantaged
again
in
in
this
in
this
realm
by
the
issue
proposed
by
the
city
and
how
are
they
affected
differently
and
what
quantitative
or
qualitative
evidence
of
inequity
exists?
So
I
don't
know
if
evanston
has
homeless
sorry
unhoused
data
that
might
tell
us-
and
I
don't
know
if
we
just
have
to
use
a
chicago
land
data
or
a
national
data,
but
we
should
be
able
to
pull
up
that.
A
You
know
there
is
a
you
know,
a
disproportion
of
who
would
be
affected
by
this,
and
has
the
city
considered
this?
I
would
be
asking
this
question
to
council
person,
grover
or
the
city
manager,
who
was
involved
in
managing
office,
who
was
involved
in
this
of
like.
Have
they
taken
that
into
consideration?
Have
they
thought
about
mitigating
that
in
any
way.
D
I
could
also
add,
like
I'd,
want
to
know
the
like
racial,
nothing
background
people,
you
know
where
did
the
initial
complaints
come
from
and
then
from
the
data
that
the
intern
went
to
get
you
know
making
sure
that
they
were
getting.
You
know
interviewing
folks
and
what
I
mean
by
that,
like
you
know
whether
that
presidents
people
downtown
people
going
to
trader
joe's
whatever
that's
what
I
wanted.
D
A
For
a
third
person,
but-
and
so
again
after
the
fact,
it's
not
perfect
because
matt
would
be
like.
What's
who
do
you
think
was?
You
know
like
what
who
did
most
of
the
people
and
he's
gonna
be
trying
to
remember
out
of
his
mind
and
he
he
may
not
have
that
information.
So
we
see
why
it
really
should
be
working
in
the
other
direction,
all
right
specific
to
this
policy
practice.
What
factors
may
be
reproducing
and
perpetuating
racial
inequities
associated
with
this
issue.
A
A
And
in
our
current
states
to
that
point,
where
you
know
we're
doing
it
kind
of
in
the
after
fact,
after
the
fact
way,
as
opposed
to
proactively
yeah,
we
might
want
which
I
did
ask
two
different
folks
outside
of
trader
joe's,
which
you'd
be
happy
to
hear.
I
asked
like:
have
you
been
getting
hassle
since
that
those
signs
went
up?
A
The
situation
made
the
situation
worse
if
they
were
indeed
being
called
upon,
which
so
far
not
or
if
like
they
had
any
police
encounters,
because
someone
called
or
if
people
have
started,
saying
to
them.
No
you're,
not
I'm
not
giving
you
anything
because
they're,
not
you
know,
you're
not
supposed
to
be
here
for
the
police
sign.
A
Yeah,
and
so
if
there
was
like
do
we
have
folks
who
are
already
down
on
their
luck
being
carted
off
to
a
night
in
jail
or
whatever
or
being
removed
or
hassled
or
whatever,
and
so
again
in
these
sections,
you're
not
only
scoring
a
score
at
the
side
here.
You're
writing
why
you
think
it's
a
two
or
a
zero
or
a
five
right?
Why
and
then,
as
you
get
to
the
two
or
three,
what
has
the
city
done
to
zero?
One
you've
probably
done
nothing.
A
So,
let's
just
say
they
decided
any
way
they
were
going
to
implement
the
signs,
but
they
made
it
clear
to
the
police
department
that
they're
not
to
actually
go
out
to
any.
Instead,
we
have,
you
know,
created
a
social
service
office.
That's
now
going
to
go
out
right.
So
the
point
is
we
want
to
get
these
folks
help
for
some
reason,
we're
still
going
to
stick
with
our
signs,
but
we're
keeping
away
the
police
problem
and
we're
sending
out
social
services
of
some
other
sort
right.
A
A
A
C
A
Okay,
perfect
part
of
me,
I
remember
when
I
was
reading
that
thinking
like.
Why
am
I?
Why
are
we
giving
brownie
points
for
simply
engaging
the
key
stakeholders
without
actually
taking
action,
but
I
mean
it's
like
a
bare
minimum
right,
so
I
was
wondering
if
I
took
it
out
or
not
so
yeah
number
four
is
feeling
a
little
repetitive
to
me.
A
D
My
only
my
only
thought
is
like
I
like.
I
love
the
example
we're
discussing
because
I
think
it's
timely
and
it's
real,
but
it's
also
a
little
bit
simple,
I'm
wondering
if
some
at
some
like
is
there
a
way
you
could
have
like
a
short
version
longer
just
in
this.
I
agree
with
you
it's
a
little
redundant
here,
but
I'm
wondering
if
there
might
be
some
situations
or
laws
that
are
being
discussed
or
whatever
else
where
it
might
be
appropriate.
A
And
so,
if
I
had
to
ask
if
there's
policies
or
practices,
what
factors
may
be
reproducing
of
perpetuating
racial
inequities,
I
could
think
about
the
long-term
potential
gentrification
of
the
area.
As
a
result,
not
saying
it's
going
to
happen
with
potential
for
these
purposes
and
that
would
be
reproducing
harm
and
then
have
disproportionate
impacts
been
identified.
What
adverse
impacts
yeah,
I'm
still
seeing
it
quite.
A
A
A
What
oh
equitable
sorry,
maybe
that
was
right.
What
positive
impact
on
equity,
sorry,
different
question,
positive
impacts
on
equity
and
inclusion?
If
any
could
result
from
this
proposal
which
racial
equity
group
could
benefit?
Are
there
further
ways
to
maximize
the
benefit?
Can
anybody
think
of
a
group
that
could
I
mean,
like
a
group
that
can
measure
positive
impacts
here.
A
G
G
Well
we're
addressing
systemic
issues
by
making
sure
people
get
what
services
they
need,
but
it
feels
like
very
unlikely
that
they're,
looking
at
the
sign
and
going
to
the
website
on
their
mob,
you
know
on
their
web
device,
and
so
just
in
reading
that,
what's
coming
up
for
me,
is
like
okay.
Well,
you
know
who?
Who
does
this
matters
a
lot
so.
A
A
So
that's
I
mean
it's
a
good
question.
We
don't
have
to
answer
particularly
right
now,
but
as
it
transitions
to
that
you
know
in
the
next
decade
or
so,
if
I
don't
laugh
I'll
cry
so
I'm
laughing
that
that
you
know
there's
still
some
threshold
wear
for
things
that
meet
some
criteria.
It
still
gets
vetted
to
make
sure
it
was
done
correctly.
A
G
A
I
mean
this
is
before
you
bake
the
cake
generally,
it
should
be
before
you
bake.
You
know
before
you
roll
out
the
very
least.
Even
if
the
plan
is
baked,
we
shouldn't
be
putting
up
signs.
We
shouldn't
be
doing
this
after
the
signs
are
up
right,
we'd
be
at
the
very
least
doing
them
before
the
signs
go
up,
and
so
it
really
would
be
anticipated.
Now
we
could,
we
could
ask.
This
is
actually
a
good
question
to
ask.
What
is
this?
A
I
mean
because
one
of
the
things
because
I
attended
the
city
council
meeting
with
us
to
discuss,
we
were
told
that,
oh,
you
know
rockford
did
this
and
you
know
they've
had
a
reduction
in
their
panhandling,
but
like
do
we
have
any
data
from
the
wrong
friends
of
the
world?
Somebody
else
who's
done
this
of
what
what
racial
you
know.
A
A
Are
there
better
ways
to
reduce
racial
disparities
and
advance
racial
equity?
What
provisions
could
change
be
changed
or
added
to
ensure
positive
impacts?
I
mean
my
guess
at
some
point
in
time
that
phone
number
there
to
get
help
on
the
email
address
was
an
attempt
to,
like
you
know,
send
folks
at
least
some
help,
and
so,
if
we
were
to
discuss
that
as
a
possibility,
I
mean
the
whole
point
of
to.
I
would
guess
I
have
never
planned
had
to
panhandle
for
my
next
meal.
A
So
I'm
not
assuming
to
know,
but
my
guess
is
that
there's
a
difference
between
me
trying
to
make
sure
I
get
to
ex
pantry
at
x
church
on
a
monday
to
make
sure
I
have
food
for
those
down
moments
and
a
need
I
have
now
which
and
which
is
why
I'm
outside
of
starbucks
asking
for
money,
because
the
the
pantry
just
doesn't
give
up
give
out
the
you
know
the
thing
that
I
need.
So
I
think
there's
a
difference
in
immediate
needs
versus
or
needs
that
can't
be
met.
A
Otherwise
people
need
cash
for
other
things
than
just
food
in
that
absolute
moment.
So
I
would
kind
of
look
at
that,
like
we
put
an
alternative,
but
that
doesn't
help
them
eat
today.
On
this
moment
that
pantry
may
not
be
open
and
it
doesn't
always
provide
the
thing
they
need.
That's
the
only
thing
I
think
about
there
anything
else.
A
Is
the
proposal
viable
and
sustainable?
I
almost
don't
think
that
this
this
fully
applies
here
because
it's
you
know
like.
I
think
this
would
more
apply
when
you're
putting
in
something
that's
supposed
to
help,
and
is
it
actually
going
to
keep
helping?
If,
let's
just
say
this
did
turn
into
a
police
calling
thing,
and
that
was
what
was
coming
out
of
it,
which
you
know
fingers
crossed
that
has
not
been
happening
so
far.
We
could
start
asking
questions
like.
A
Does
the
police
department
have
the
capacity
to
take
on
not
that
I'm
crying
any
chairs
to
the
police
department
but
to
take
on
this
extra
load?
That's
the
question
I
could
see
asking
here.
So
you
know
I
don't
know,
but
I
almost
see
this
question
as
only
being
really
viable
for
when
somebody's
putting
in
place
something
that's
supposed
to
help.
So
is
it
actually
going
to
produce
and
be
able
to
sustain
the
benefit
that
it's.
A
And
then
have
equity
success
indicators
been
identified
with
a
plan
to
measure,
and
so,
let's
just
say,
the
group
was
comfortable
with
I'm.
Not
personally,
but
let's
just
say,
the
group
was
comfortable
with
this
idea
that
okay,
we're
asking
them
not
to
panhandle,
but
we've
given
them
this
phone
number,
we
should
be
tracking
how
many
people
were
helped.
A
How
many
people
are
calling
the
phone
number,
how
many
people
were
helped?
Have
the
the
places
we've
been
sending
them
seen
an
uptick
in
people
taking
on
their
services
right?
Because
if
we,
if
we
really
believe,
if
we
really
believe
that
this
was
a
better
option,
then
we
need
to
be
tracking.
The
people
are
taking
this
better
option,
so
I
would
want
to
know
you
know
the
circumstance
we're
all
kind
of
saying,
bs
below
our
breaths
or
above
our
breasts,
but.
F
A
A
G
D
D
G
A
Sorry
now
there
was
an
actual
party
in
my
house
because
of
lasting
music
all
right,
so
the
question
should
be
reversed
there,
all
right,
so
you
know
like
panda.
That
is
there
anything
that
we
didn't
ask
that
in
this
case
we
should
have
asked-
or
you
know
this
happens.
Let
you
know
that
this
works
for
this,
but
it
occurred
to
you
that
in
a
bigger
situation
we
might
need
something
else,
and
so
the
answer
here
at
the
end
of
this
is
not
that
it's
like
no
go,
no
go
right
like
life.
A
I
mean
you
might
have
a
situation
where
you're
like
this,
like
to
be
fair
in
this
case
that
have
been
like
no
go
right,
but
the
answer
will
not
always
be
go
no
go
so
it
may
be
like
suggesting
that
let's
say
we
got
here
and
we
realized
the
the
signs
weren't
up,
the
cake
wasn't
baked
that
they
talked
to.
They
had
complained
so
they
started
on
this
and
they
put
up
further
proposal,
but
they
hadn't
talked
to
any
unhoused
folks.
A
They
had
so
we
might
be
suggesting
they
go
back
and
do
these
things
they've
come
up
with.
They
came
up
with
some
extra
solutions,
but
you
thought
of
something
else
from
running
it
through.
You
might
actually
offer
those
solutions
as
well
for
them
to
consider
so
we're
making
recommendations
as
well
as
here.
A
When
panhandling
is
there
is,
is
a
legal
right
like
it's
all
right
right
like
they
can
do
it,
and
so,
like
the
city,
putting
in
the
narrative,
the
panhandling
is
unsafe
and
so
like.
I
feel
it's
not
quite.
I
don't
know
where
I'd
put
that
but
like
if
there
sometimes
you
may
come
out
and
realize
that
this
thing
followed
all
the
right
rules
and
policies,
but
we
have
a
policy
of
practicing
this
making
something
legal
in
our
town
or
per
the
code
in
our
town
that
we
need
to
cut
that
off.
A
A
I
don't
know
about
you
guys.
I
thought
this
was
helpful.
Just
to
kind
of.
I
still
don't
think
it's
perfect.
It
will
not
be
perfect.
It
will
not
work.
We
will.
We
will
come
up
with
a
situation.
You
know
within
the
next
six
months
as
we're
kind
of
trying
to
model
this.
That
breaks
it
again
and
you
know
we
will
add
and
tweak,
but
this
was
helpful
for
us
to
to
see
that
you
know
yeah
it's
in
the
ballpark.
I
don't
know,
that's
how
I
feel
I
don't
know
how
other
people
feel.
A
A
All
right,
okay,
so
we
have
a
last
item,
which
means
we're
gonna
run
over
a
little
bit,
so
it
was
brought
up.
I
I've
only
been
co-chair
for
a
year
right
now
and
my
first
meeting
here
on
this
council
ever
not
even
as
co-chair,
was
the
week
that
or
the
month
that
a
new
environmental
equity
resolution
was
being
passed.
A
Somebody
who
was
on
the
commission
before
that
was
their
last
sitting
as
it
was
passed,
everybody
congratulated
in
his
past
and
then
I
never
heard
anything
about
it.
Again
I
mean
meaning
somebody
has
come
to
share
information,
but
I
didn't
I
didn't
read
the
actual
details.
It
was
brought
to
my
attention
this
week
that
there
was,
in
that
resolution
an
actual
role
for
the
eec
to
play
in
meeting
the
ordinance
requirements
of
that
environmental
justice
resolution.
So
I
am
not
trying
to
solve
that
problem
tonight.
A
G
But
I
can
I'll
read
it
so.
Yes,
I
I
know
rick
is
on
the
line
and
maybe
can
expand,
because
this
was
him
and
not
me,
but
I
have
met
a
couple
times
with
a
few
folks
from
environmental
justice
evanston
who
have
filled
me
in
so
the
sections
from
the
resolution
where
it
mentions
the
equity
and
empowerment
commission.
G
One
of
them
has
it
says,
whereas
the
city
of
evanston
recognizes
that
environmental
justice
is
concerned
with
the
equity
and
empowerment
of
all
community
members,
section
three
or
sorry,
page
three
of
the
resolution
says
the
city
of
evanston
will
incorporate
environmental
justice.
I'm
gonna
see
if
it's
gonna.
Let
me
do
a
smaller
thing
in
the
chat
there.
We
go.
Okay
here
we
go
so
this
is
from
the
ordinance
and
you
can
see
the
city
of
evanston
will
incorporate
environmental
justice
into
the
city
of
evanston
ordinances
and
then
the
last
sentence
is
this.
G
Work
will
be
done
in
consultation
with
environmental
justice
evanston
in
this
commission
as
well,
and
then
there
is
an
ask
around
a
public
engagement
policy
which
it's
also
letting
me
put
in.
So
the
city
will
develop
a
policy
that
specifies
clear
goals
and
meaningful
public
engagement
policies
and
decision-making
processes.
G
A
F
So
in
our
group,
as
we
looked
at
this
and
started
thinking
about
the
work
that
would
need
to
take
place
to
ultimately
create
like
an
environmental
justice
mitigation
plan,
which
is
what
our
ultimate
goal
is,
we
went
well.
This
is
something
important
for
us
in
environmental
justice,
but
it's
also
important
for
many
other
large
issues.
F
F
This
would
be
a
very
hard
project
to
address
by
a
group
that
has
organized
the
way
that
you're
organized
and
the
way
we're
organized
and
what
I,
what
I
mean
by
that
is,
I
think,
would
actually
be
very
advantageous
to
either
have
a
subcommittee
or
basically
form
a
group
with
some
dedicated
individuals,
because
this
is
not
a
trivial
thing
and
it
takes
a
long
time
and
I
think
jane.
You
might
remember
that
back.
I
want
to
say
approximately
two
years
ago.
F
I
think
it
was
the
city
of
santa
monica
california.
They
had
a
couple
of
representatives
who
presented
to
the
e
e
commission,
and
so
they
they
came
out.
They
had
actually
gone
through
this
process
of
creating
a
public
participation
policy
and
they
presented,
and
they
talked
about.
You
know
how
long
it
took
them
and-
and
you
know
what
they
ended
up
with.
F
I
think
they
actually
presented
a
deliverable
document
that
showed
what
the
end
result
was
of
their
work,
but
I
also
think
that
there
might
have
been
some
paid
city
employees
involved
in
this
who
might
have
been
working
on
this
full
time.
So
I
don't
think
it's
a
small
project.
I
think
it's
a
project
that
actually
will
almost
demand
some
attention
and
so
to
do
it
as
one
of
many
tasks
or
one
of
many
initiatives
that
you're
trying
to
address.
F
F
But
there's
not
like
a
a
common
set
of
city
code
that
addresses
you
know
common
elements
across
all
the
different
processes,
there's
almost
like
a
unique
and
customized
public
participation,
sometimes
at
the
at
the
level
of
these
commissions
and
boards
and
committees.
So
it's
it's
not
a
trivial
thing.
I
think
you
probably
you
know
all
of
you
who've
been
involved
in
some
of
these
activities
for
a
while.
You
probably
realize
just
kind
of
at
the
back
of
your
head,
that
it's
not
a
trivial
thing.
F
A
We
are
we
racial
equity
and
nobody
wanted
to
stick
on
racial
equity,
because
you
know
other
people
suffer
too,
which
is
absolutely
true,
but
we
couldn't
name
ourselves,
and
so
I'm
sitting
here
struggling.
How
did
this
fall
in
the
lab
of
you
know
a
group
that
is
supposed
to
be
a
racial
equity
group,
and
I
mean
I
know
that
the
global
south
suffers
from
environmental
stuff.
A
But
I
my
question
here
is
that,
like
the
with
the
non-triviality
rick,
should
we
be
looking
at
people
who
actually
have
a
background
in,
and
I
know
kitty
does
but
a
background
in
this
type
of
thing
and
as
opposed
to
the
kind
of
backgrounds
we
screened
for
when
we
were
looking
to
create
bring
on
members
of
this
group,
and
I'm
wondering
if
it
means
that
we
should
be
whether
they
were
like
that.
You
know.
A
F
F
Legally,
I
don't
know
if
that's
possible
for
you
to
basically
form
a
group
that
would
not
necessarily
be
just
of
your
own
members,
but
maybe
bring
in
two
or
three
additional
people
who
might
be
better
qualified
and
basically
have
a
committee,
some
type
of
side
committee
dedicated
to
this.
I
just
say
that,
because
you're
kind
of
like
us
and
we're
dealing
with
you
know
enough
issues
and
and
to
you
know
something
like
this:
it's
it's
a
big
thing
to
address.
It's
just.
E
So
we
we
got
a
a
bit
of
a
start
on
some
public
engagement,
kind
of
an
equity
lens
on
community
public
engagement
and
alejandra,
and
dolores
worked
on
it.
We
had
a
document
that
was,
I
think,
good
shape,
and
maybe
we
revisit
that
and
add
to
that
an
element
of
environmental
justice.
We've
already
got
a
start
on
something
that
could
be
a
guide
to
meaningful,
inclusive
public
engagement,
both
generally
but
also
specific
to
environmental
justice.
If
that's
what
you're
getting
at
rick.
E
F
And
that
kind
of
raises
another
issue
which
is
ultimately
what
form
should
this
take?
So
if
I
remember
correctly
jane
that
was
really
kind
of
a
I'm
trying
to
remember
the
title,
but
it
was
something
like
guidelines
yeah,
you
know,
so
it
kind
of
goes
back
to
is
that
the
form
that
people
think
would
be
the
the
optimal
form
for
something
like
this
to
take
and
and
what
type
of
from
a
from
a
legal
standpoint
or
from
a
you
know,
having
teeth
within
the
city?
F
If
it's
a
guidelines
document
are
people
going
to
take
those
guidelines
and
actually
start
operating
from
them.
So
that
would
be
a
question
as
part
of
that,
but
there
is
a
document
that
you
did
allude
to,
and
that
would
certainly
be
something
for
people
to
take
a
look
at
and
and
see
where
that's
at
and
see
what
their
thoughts
are
on.
On
the
content
of
that
document,.
E
And
when
and
kind
of
hand
in
hand
with
that,
we
also
did
a
survey
of
some
city
staff
about
all
the
different
ways
in
which
they
do
community
engagement.
So
there's
community
engagement
when
you're
doing
a
street
widening
project
and
the
city
is
not
going
to
endorse
to
inform
residents
that
you
know
that's
public
engagement
too,
and
everything
from
that
to
doing
the
the
really
big
stuff
to
develop
a
new
comprehensive
plan.
E
The
hard
part
is,
though,
that
that,
unless
there's
somebody,
I
think
in
the
city
who
is
promoting
it
and
getting
in
the
hands
of
the
people
who
are
doing
the
public
engagement,
I'm
not
sure
what
use
it'll
have
you
want
you?
Ideally
you
want
to
answer
your
question.
Ideally,
you
want
something
that
is
a
go-to
guide
for
it,
and
this
equity
assessment
was
a
list
of
questions
about
who
have
you
engaged
and
who
have
you
not
engaged
in
essentially
who
faces
barriers
to
participating
in
the
conversation
around
this
project
or
this
policy.
E
G
E
E
G
What
is
the
role
this
team
to
consult,
as
is
referenced
in
the
ordinance?
Language
could
be
right
because
it
does
feel
like
a
big
thing
to
take
on,
but
also,
I
don't
think
we'd
want
to
be
excluded.
So
I,
like,
I
said,
I'd,
be
happy
to
talk
to
you
more
about
that
afterwards
and
just
figure
out
how
to
get
the
ball
rolling
and
where
it
should
live.
F
A
real
quick
comment
on
that
is
one
of
the
things
that
we're
discovering,
and
you
know
I
don't
know
if
it's
an
after
effect
of
the
pandemic.
We
talked
about
some
other
issues
earlier
in
this
meeting
relative.
What's
going
on
at
haven
right
now,
the
city
bandwidth
is
so
squeezed
from
people
trying
to
address.
You
know
these
myriad
many
serious,
significant
issues
and
so
we're
challenged
on
some
of
the
things
we're
trying
to
do
right
now
and-
and
it's
really
really
hard
to
get
people's
time
and
attention
in
the
city.
F
So
what
what
we're
starting
to
do
is
trying
to
find
other
techniques
on
how
we
can
move
some
things
ahead
in
an
optimal
way,
maybe
with
less
city
participation
than
we
would
like.
But
that's
what
we're
finding
is
the
reality
right
now.
So
I
agree
with
you.
If
you
read
the
language,
you
could
certainly
read
that
language
and
say
this
is
more.
You
know
the
city's
responsibility
and
we
would
be
helping
out.
F
A
It
seems
like
we
have
an
issue
that
nobody's
ready
to
prioritize
our
own.
This
is
what
I'm
hearing,
so
you
know
what
I
want
to
do
is
yeah.
You
know
rip
katie
and
I
are
supposed
to
to
get
together
and
I
mean
let's
have
an
offline
conversation
about
this,
where
we
could
maybe
take
a
little
more
time,
we're
already
kind
of
20
minutes
behind
that
we've
stolen
time
from
everybody
tonight,
and
so
I
want
to
first
thank
everybody
for
staying
a
little
behind.