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From YouTube: Equity and Empowerment Commission - Jul. 21, 2022
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The Equity and Empowerment Commission discuss anti-gentrification measures, the zoning code, and the Evanston EPLAN.
C
B
F
C
E
See
we
have
a
large
crowd
today,
so
I'm
not
sure
what
we're
expecting,
but
I'm
going
to
put
it
out
there
before
we
we'll
start
with
the
approval
of
the
minutes
from
may
19th.
We
did
not
have
a
meeting
last
month
because
we
would
not
have
had
enough
people
to
make
quorum.
So
I
I
mean
I
hope
that
everybody
had
a
chance
to
glimpse
over
the
meeting
minutes
from
may
19th
and
then
whether
folks
want
me
to
give
a
couple
minutes
for
that
or
just
ask.
If
we
have
anyone.
C
E
This
is
a
little
more
pressure
than
we
knew
we
have.
There
may
be
folks
who
are
here
for
certain
pieces,
because
we
are
having
a
anti-gentrification
discussion
later
on
which
I'm
guessing
drew
some
folks
here,
as
well
as
we're
having
a
update
later
on
about
zone
co.
So
does
anybody
have
a
public
comment?
That's
that
they
want
to
state
now,
as
opposed
to
you
know,
give
folks
a
chance
to
chime
in
if
they
want
once
certain
things
are
presented.
A
E
Right,
I
will
move
forward
then
to
the
items
that
we're
going
to
discuss.
I
will
sort
of
preface
this
by
saying
we're
going
to
talk
about
several
things
today
that
are
associated
with
housing
in
different
ways
and
I'll
stop
by
prefacing
it
I
should
realize
I
had
my
headphones
on
from
earlier
I'll
stop
by
prefacing
it
with
saying
something
that
occurred
to
me
earlier
today,
while
chatting
with
somebody
that
you
know
you
know
my
personal
opinion.
E
E
A
decent
chunk
of
that
happens
by
corporations
and
equity
firms,
not
just
individuals,
even
as
you
saw
the
frenzy,
the
frenzy
was
fueled
by
the
fact
that
you
know
corporations
were
kind
of
grabbing
up
a
lot
of
the
low
level
homes,
meaning
anything
under
300,
400
000,
and
that
left
everybody
else
scrambling
and
it
made
the
pressure
on
everybody
else.
Crazy
and
many
different
municipalities
are
having
to
get
pretty
serious
about
addressing
different
tactics
to
try
to
reduce
or
to
make
more
housing
affordable,
such
that
one.
E
A
lot
of
people
are
focused
on
making
sure
they
kind
of
close
those
loopholes
for
corporations
to
buy
up
the
housing
which
then
you
know
rents
have
gone
up
for
a
reason.
It's
not
by
chance
it's
because
of
all
that
corporate
buying,
as
well
as
just
looking
at
ways
to
organically
stem
gentrification
and
to
organically
stem
the
reduction
of
affordable
or
mid-tier
housing
in
each
community.
E
E
So
I'm
gonna
we're
gonna
start
by
talking
about
our
first
order
of
business,
and
that
is
the
anti-gentrification
ordinance
which
we
had
sort
of
introduced
this
three
meetings
ago.
If
I'm
not
correct
three
or
two
meetings
ago,
I
can't
remember
we
have
a
guest
speaker
which
I'll
ask
darlene
to
introduce
and
give
us
a
rundown
what
he'll
be
chatting
about,
and
the
hope
is
that
we
will
be
sort
of
taking
a
motion
action.
E
I
don't
know
what
the
exact
words
are
as
a
group
today
to
say
that
we
are
committed
to
formulating.
You
know
a
draft
of
an
audience
or
something
that
we
will
turn
into
city
council.
Again,
we
as
an
account
commission.
We
don't
have
the
ability
to
vote
on
anything.
But
what
we're
hoping
to
say
is
that
we
have
enough
agreement
on
this,
that
we
will
start
drafting.
You
know
our
very
own
version
centered
around
some
of
these
issues,
so
darlene
I'll
kind
of
kick
it
off
to
you.
F
E
F
F
So
you
know
after
I
introduced
him.
He
talked
about
the
ordinance,
but
I'd
like
to
you
know
hear
from
him.
What
were
you
know
the
the
benefits
of
having
the
ordinance,
and
what
did
he
see
that
after
it's
been
out
here
for
a
while?
Now?
What
did
he
see
that
he
felt
that
needed
to
be
improved?
You
know
that
things
that
he
wish
he
would
have
known.
I
guess.
E
Yeah
and
the
whole
purpose
of
this
is
that
you
know
there's
no
need
to
recreate
the
wheel.
No
one
move
is
going
to
sort
of
fix
the
housing
problem.
This
needs
to
be
attacked
in
multiple
ways.
If
anybody
who
is
not
familiar
what
was
mentioned
in
terms
of
the
demolition
right
now
in
evanston,
if
you
want
to
knock
down
an
existing
house,
there's
what
was
a
ten
there's,
a
ten
thousand
dollar
sort
of
penalty
that
is
motivated.
E
I
mean
to
me
the
time
it
was
done.
It
was
motivated
less
by
affordable
housing
issues
and
more
about
like
wanting
to
keep
the
stock
and
wanted
to
renovate
what
was
there.
So
we
keep
a
look
and
feel
of
evanston,
rather
than
it
being
about
affordability,
because,
quite
frankly,
people
were
still
renovated
into
a
million
dollar
home.
E
But
it's
really
about
you
know
not
ending
up
with
different
looking
inventory,
so
we
keep
it
look
and
feel
that
was
set.
I
don't
know
when
it
was
said
it's
quite
a
while
ago,
but
in
today's
reality,
when
folks
can
renovate
a
house
and
get
1.2
three
million
dollars,
but
ten
thousand
dollars
is
not
a
deterrent
by
any
means,
and
so
that
should
be
revisited
and
then
the
second
thing
that
darlene
mentioned
aside
from
the
sort
of
anti
hassling.
I
don't
know
what
the
right
word
is,
but
anti.
E
Aside
from
that,
the
other
thing
that
we're
hoping
to
discuss
today
is
the
idea
of
putting
some
sort
of
limitations
moratorium
on
the
deconversion
of
two
flats
into
single-family
homes,
and
every
time
I
say
that
out
loud.
I
feel
the
need
to
just
admit
and
be
honest
and
upfront
and
upright
about
the
fact
that
I
live
in
a
home
that
I
deconverted
from
a
two-flat.
A
single-family
home
can't
go
back
in
time,
but
I
like
to
state
it.
E
So
nobody
comes
and
says:
hey
she's,
trying
to
stop
this
now
and
she
lives
in
one
right.
But
this
is
not
only
about
affordability.
It's
about.
Like
simple
inventory,
I
live
in
the
dewey
kind
of
boundary
area
and
you
can
rent
an
apartment
downtown
and
if
you
have
children
you
could
live
downtown
which
isn't
exactly
children,
family,
plus
the
prices
of
a
small
two
bedroom.
These
days
downtown
or
28
upwards
close
to
three
thousand
dollars
in
many
of
those
buildings.
H
B
B
B
B
And
similarly
to
the
previous
update,
97
live
in
evanston
and
some
people
also
26
percent
work
in
evanston,
and
then
only
two
percent
work
for
the
city
of
evanston
and
as
far
as
award
breakdown
on
responses.
It's
pretty
evenly
distributed
with
slightly
fewer
responses
from
the
fifth
ward
and
the
first
ward.
B
D
B
Also
fairly
representative,
you
can
see
a
peak
around
household
income
of
100
000
and
then
a
small
dip,
and
then
what
would
be
another
peak
if
we
go
past
household
income
of
two
hundred
thousand
and
that's
similar
to
what
we
see
here,
which
is
the
representative
representative
of
evanston,
with
a
slightly
different
class
intervals
for
age?
We
still.
B
B
Really
low
when
it
comes
to,
but
and
there's
a
fair
amount
who
have
been
preferring
not
to
say
and
then
for
disability
80
have
no
disability
and
around
15
percent
have
a
disability,
12
and
then
for
housing.
It's
similar
to
the
last
update
where
there
were
it's
about
50
of
people
in
evanston
own
and
50
percent
lease,
but
we
see
a
heart,
a
strong
tilt
towards
people
who
own
their
property,
which
is
kind
of
expected
in
local
government
engagement.
B
Okay,
sorry
yeah
I
should
have.
I
should
have
thought
of
that,
as
I
was
going
to
share
my
screen
but
they're
in
now,
and
so
my
update
as
well
includes
that
the
most
recent
response
was
on
june
22nd
and
therefore
I
think
my
recommendation
would
be
to
close
the
survey
and
send
and
report
out
what
we
found
or
what
you
all
found,
with
the
caveat
that
some
groups
were
underrepresented,
but
that's
a
decision
that
you
all.
You
can.
D
E
So
I'd
like
I
mean
I
don't
know
what.
Historically
I
don't
know
if,
commissioner
grover,
you
have
a
sense,
historically
from
past
and
past
being
an
older
person,
what
we
would
get
you
know,
I
I'm
kind
of
disappointed
in
the
response
rate,
but
I'm
also,
I
went
out
to
two
different
events,
one
of
both
of
which
first
one
I
printed
little
cards
that
had
a
qr
code
with
a
link
I
explained
every
vendor
because
there
were
several
tents
every
event.
E
These
are
local,
evanston
events
every
vendor
what
it
was,
and
then
I
printed
out
a
large
version
and
had
it
at
their
table
asking
them
to
ask
folks
to
fill
it
out
when
they
come
to
their
table,
as
well
as
asking
the
vendors
to
fill
it
out
before
the
the
event
got
started,
and
I
asked
matt
like
right
after
that
weekend
how
many
we
got.
We
got
12.
I
mean,
and
I
printed
like
80
of
these
things
give
them
out.
E
So
that
was
that
was
kind
of
one
of
my
hopeful
grand
plans
for
like
trying
to
capture
folks
who
are
not
always
on
email,
and
I
don't
know
how
helpful
that
was,
and
then
there
was
another
event.
I
live
across
street
from
a
park.
There
was
another
event
I
had
a
bunch
of
leftover
printouts
and
I
took
it
over
there
and
didn't
get
any
so
I
guess
I
would
like
to
put
one
more
call
to
everybody
on
this
phone.
Whether
you're
I
mean
on
this
call,
whether
you
are
by
the
commission
or
not.
E
If
you
are
willing
to
do
it
and
have
not,
you
know,
didn't
work
on
my
initial
list
of
emails.
I
have
an
email
where
I'm
kind
of
sending
it
out
to
folks
asking
people
who
have
any
sort
of
network
in
the
community
pass
it
on
and
email
it
to
their
to
their
network.
These
sort
of
responses
are
way
more
likely
to
happen.
If
it
comes
from
somebody,
they
know
who's
asking
them
to
do
them
a
favor
versus
just
a
random
figurehead
and
matt.
E
C
A
question
maybe
for
matt
and
reid
councilmember:
we
do
you
have
a
sense
of
how
many
people
are
responding
to
two
of
the
city's
recent
surveys.
One
was
for
the
ada,
the
americans,
with
disability
act,
planning
survey,
that's
been
out
for
a
while
and
the
other
was.
I
know
that
the
administrative
services
recently
did
one
on
parking.
A
H
H
C
B
D
E
Well,
call
me
a
little
stubborn,
but
low
bars
have
never
really
allowed
me
to
just
hang
out
at
the
bottom.
So
I'm
still
gonna
ask
that
we
do
one
more
push
and
that
you
know
we'll
wrap
it
up
and
have
a
final
review
by
next
session.
But
please,
you
know
mess.
You
can
message
me
right
here.
If
you
are
interested
in
getting
a
copy
of
my
email,
that
has
the
whole
little.
H
E
Yeah
it
did
but
a
while
ago
so
matt.
If
you
could
ask
if
that
could
go
out
again
either
it
doesn't
have
to
be
from
the
mayor.
It
could
be
like
from
whatever
the
desk
of
the
city
of
evanston
or
whatever.
I
honestly
don't
know
that
a
response
from
a
response
I
mean,
like
a
request
from
the
mayor,
differs
any
you
know.
H
I
think
it'd
be
nice
if
it
went
out
by
itself,
because
sometimes
in
the
newsletter,
when
it's
in
the
entire
day,
it
gets
buried
at
the
bottom
or
buried
somewhere
in
there
and
it's
hard
not
hard
for
folks
to
find.
But
it's
not
popping
out
for
folks
to
participate
in
and
so
matt.
Maybe
if
you
and
I
or
maybe
ui
and
carla,
can
talk
with
with
not
patrick
titan
because
he's
automatic
or
paternity
leave
but
jessica
mayo.
E
E
Meanwhile,
I
do
want
to
stress
that
I
think
the
thing
that
has
us
while
it's
a
lower
response-
I
mean-
I
don't
know
I
can't
say
low,
because
there's
no
set
expectations.
But
while
you
know
I'm
not
thrilled
with
the
response,
one
of
our
goals
was
to
make
sure
it's
proportional,
like
relatively
proportionate,
which,
as
I
said
last
time,
I
sent
out
some
notes
to
folks.
I
knew
in
the
latinx
community
asking
them
to
share
it.
I
will
do
that
again.
E
If
you
know
people
who
are
prominent,
whether
they
own
a
business,
they
you
know,
are
active
in
a
church
or
anything
like
that
or
any
event,
any
any
reason
why
they
would
be
have
a
network
within
the
next
community.
I'd
love
to
see
that
number
bump
up
as
well
as
the
asian
community.
Other
than
that,
I
think
yeah,
we're
gonna,
continue
to
make
one
more
push
for
the
this
next
month
and
then
we
can
call
it
darlene.
I'm
gonna
point
it
back
to
you
and
you
can.
E
F
He
also
was
a
volunteer
soccer
coach
in
pilsen
and
as
an
organizer
fought
against
school
closures,
eviction,
corruption
and
gentrification,
as
aldermen
byron
has
included
residents
in
zoning
decisions,
increased,
affordable
housing
and
fought
for
environmental
justice
and
improved
quality
of
life.
Brian
has
byron,
has
helped
grow.
The
pilsen
food
pantry
pass
registration
to
restrict
predatory
developers
preying
on
long-time
homeowners
and
continues
to
work
with
ward
residents
to
ensure
taxpayers
receive
the
best
government
services
possible
byron
lives
in
pilsen
with
his
wife
and
his
three
children.
H
E
I
Yeah,
thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
carla.
Thank
you
darlene
and
everyone
you
know
for
for
the
invitation
yeah.
We
have
actually
a
triplets,
but
we
have
three
three
dogs
so
he's
like
a
family
of,
I
guess
eight
now
technically
so
he's
is
a
blessing
and,
as
I
said,
he's
a
triple
the
blessing
and
quadruple
the
work,
but
definitely
worth
it
and
definitely
another
inspiration
to
continue
to
to
fight
for
the
stable
and
inclusive
communities
that
we
all
want
to
see.
So,
first,
just
wanna.
I
I
So
we
basically
have,
I
would
say,
a
little
bit
over
two
years
of
experience.
I
think
we
are
still
waiting
on
the
citywide
analysis
or
assessment
of
how
this
has
been
implemented,
but
I
know
that
has
been
implemented
differently
in
different
communities
or
in
different
worlds,
but
I
can.
I
would
like
to
talk
to
you
about
our
experience,
our
context
and
why
we
think
this
is
an
important
policy
that
evanston
can
implement
and
perhaps
learn
on
how
we
can.
I
I
think
that
there,
of
course,
as
you
know,
in
every
policy
we
learned
quite
a
bit-
we
got
to
make
adjustments
so
that
we
can
be
more
effective
in
this
policy.
So
let
me
just
start
with
a
little
bit
of
context
as
a
wyatt
or
how
we
got
here
and
why
it
is
important
to
look
at
the
context.
Every
community
is
different.
I
Let
me
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
the
25th
ward,
so
that
you
can
see
how
the
policy
was
developed,
what
we
have
and
perhaps
what
you
can
learn
and
perhaps
implement
in
evanston
and
beyond
the
25th
ward,
is
one
of
the
most
diverse
and
I
mean
really
can
be
a
microcosm
of
what
chicago
is.
I
have
the
pleasure
to
represent
the
the
pilsen
community,
the
chinatown
community
areas
of
the
west
west
loop
uic
little
italy
area,
oblah
homes
and
barbra
jean
ride,
which
are
a
historic
enclave
of
the
african-american
community.
I
Here
in
the
25th
ward
mckinley
park,
the
south
loop
and
the
78,
where,
as
you
know,
there
was
even
a
proposal
for
that
was
a
push
because
of
the
proximity
to
downtown.
We
live
very
close
to
the
downtown
area.
You
know
a
mile
away
and
again
we
are
seeing
the
effects
and
again
the
effects
not
only
of
the
proximity,
but
also
the
incentives
of
corruption
that
unfortunately
affected
our
community
for
almost
three
decades.
A
thing
before
my
time
there
were
at
least
the
last
two
elder.
I
Persons
have
been
indicted
and
convicted
of
corruption,
so
the
incentives
of
corruption
and
the
big
development
are
something
that
our
community
has
dealt
with
again,
not
only
because
of
the
proximity
or
downtown
and
the
the
attractiveness
of
the
community
to
developers,
but
also
the
complicity
of
elected
officials
that
have
misused
the
the
their
position
for
self-gain
and
self-enrichment
at
the
expense
of
our
community.
The
results,
unfortunately,
are
tragedy,
tragic
in
in
in
areas
like
chinatown
again.
I
This
was
this
proposal
of
the
casino
that
even
became
a
possibility,
even
as
early
as
this
year.
Unfortunately,
as
as
wood
community
has
organized
and
learned
from
these
practices
were
able
to
actually
successfully
defeat
the
the
proposal
and
the
25th
ward
was
able
to
basically
reject
a
proposal
that
was
almost
a
certainty
because
of
the
influence
of
developers,
but
also
the
complicity
again
of
even
current
elected
officials.
I
So
in
the
25th
ward,
the
effects
of
predatory
practices,
the
complicity
and
conclusion
of
developers
with
inspectors,
the
predatory
nature
of
developers
who
have
deep
pockets
and
and
without
regulation,
have
put
a
lot
of
pressure
in
or
small
homeowners
and
tenants
that
have
been
displaced
in
the
thousands
in
over
a
little
bit.
Over
a
decade,
we
have
seen
the
displacement
of
almost
14
000
residents
from
the
pilsen
community
alone
that
can
never
be
normalized.
I
Neither
acts
neither
be
accept
as
as
a
natural
trend,
there's
nothing
natural
with
such
a
level
of
displacement
and
again
when
communities
are
destabilized,
we
got
to
understand
the
implications
of
that
we
have
infrastructure
in
our
community.
We
have
one
of
the
communities
that
used
to
be,
and
this
is
up
to
just
only
10
years
ago,
we
used
to
be
the
youngest
community
or
have
the
youngest
population
in
the
city
of
chicago.
Tragically,
that
is
no
longer
the
case.
I
We
have
been
seeing
the
depopulation
of
public
schools
as
a
direct
result
of
these
practices
or
schools
have
been
depopulated
to
really
dangerous
levels.
In
fact,
the
reason
why
I
became
an
alderman
as
as
in
the
you
know,
in
the
kind
description
of
my
my
little
experience
in
the
community
as
a
soccer
coach
in
volunteer
soccer
coach
as
an
adult
education
trying
to
fight
for
quality
public
education
for
children,
we
tragically
see
the
effects
of
displacement
in
schools
when
schools
start
losing
losing
enrollment
when
not
enrollment
gets.
I
You
know,
translated
to
decisions
to
close
down
schools,
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
became
involved
directly
in
this
fight
for
stability
in
our
neighborhoods,
in
our
schools
to
fight
against
the
closures
of
our
schools.
There
were
two
schools
that
were
slated
to
close
in
two
thousand
and
in
2013,
so
we
decided
to
organize
so
because
of
the
massive
displacement
because
of
the
tragedy
of
the
involvements,
the
community
elected
me
to
pass
legislation
and
effects
to
help
regulate
the
so-called
free
market,
there's
nothing
or
they.
I
In
this
invisible
hand,
they
are
very,
very
visible
hands
when
it
comes
to
developers
who
come
to
our
community
with
deep
pockets.
Now
we
see
the
trends
when
these
developers
are
not
able
to
develop
in
california
or
new
york.
Now
they
have
seen
chicago
as
a
frontier,
because
we
see
a
lot
of
small
homeowners,
a
lot
of
low-income,
vulnerable
homeowners
that
are
unfortunately
easy
prey
of
these
predatory
practices.
I
The
foreclosure
rates
the
displacement
again
when
they
say
that
there's
a
normal
trend
out
of
those
10,
000
or
so
displaced
wrestlers
that
were
able
to
track
in
a
study
by
the
lawyers
committee
for
better
housing,
half
of
them
were
actually
evictions
so
that
normal
trend-
or
you
know
normal
trend
of
displacement-
is-
is
something
that
we
need
to
look
at
very
carefully.
There's
nothing
normal.
Neither
neither
me
accepted
with
these
trends
because
of
the
pressure
of
developers
and
the
nature
of
the
lack
of
regulation
and
the
corruption,
the
plague
or
community.
I
I
We
cannot
accept
that
as
the
norm
and
that's
what
we
were
able
to
push
for
this
legislation
that
basically,
it
starts
regulating
and
tracking
these
isolated
calls,
and
so
this
email
and
we'll
be
able
to
track
and
again
when
the
homeowner
is
able
to
identify
these
practices
and
report
it
to
the
local
office.
Then
we
are
able
to
research
now
make
connections
when
the
homeowner
is
rejecting
the
call
or
the
mail
or
the
visit
or
the
predatory
or
whatever
realtors
that
are
offering
to
sell
their
homes.
I
The
ability
to
homeowners
to
now
report
harassment
or
supp
or
report.
This
level
of
pressure
that
later
is
followed
by
other
predatory
practices
is
able
to
now
able
to
get
us
to
act
accordingly.
I
just
want
to
give
you
a
few
examples
that
maybe
I
can
able
later
can
share
a
video
that
we
did
with
one
of
the
homeowners.
I
In
this
occasion,
when
the
person
reported
that
to
our
office,
we
were
able
to
send
a
and
then
we're
able
to
document
that
the
homeowner
already
said
that
they're
not
interested
in
selling
they're,
not
interested
in
receiving
any
sort
of
materials,
and
when
that
we
saw
that
now
the
realtor
either
tried
to
contact
or
that
we
saw
a
visit
of
develop
or
or
inspector,
or
you
know
that
they
they're
pushing
for
a
cash
offer
or
whatever.
That
is.
We
are
able
to
now
and
this
this
ordinance.
I
No,
I'm
just
going
to
sell
that,
while
we're
able
to
intervene
and
we're
able
to
document
that
and
push
back,
we
were
able
to
basically
show
the
consequences
if
they
continue
with
these
retaliatory
or
predatory
practices,
which
goes
with
fines
that
up
to
ten
thousand
dollars,
and
if
the
predatory
nature
of
these
practices
continue,
they
can
lose
their
license.
So
again.
I
Again
this
this
this
regulation
again
there's
something
that
we
have
learned,
though,
on,
of
course,
the
the
need
for
us
to
make
sure
that
residents
are
aware
of
this
legislation
so
that
they
can
report
it.
So
now,
what
we're
doing
right
now,
with
the
department
of
housing,
for
instance,
is
that
now
there's
a
number
and
through
3-1-1
there's
another
number
where
the
city
now
is
able
to
report
this
practices.
I
I
So
we
have
able
to
probably
inform
about
the
importance
of
making
sure
that
we
have
fair
practices
on
this,
that
this
is
important
for
people
to
report,
and
now
the
department
of
housing
has
helped
our
office,
making
sure
that
now,
through
a
3-1-1
call
and
now
there's
a
number
that
they
can
call
so
that
this
can
be
reported.
So
every
demonic
office
now
can
follow
up
and
again
now
the
department
of
housing
can
technically
investigate
and,
of
course,
there
will
be
consequences
if
these
predatory
practices
are
found
irregularities.
I
We
ask,
of
course,
when
the
investigations
are
not
so
easy,
because,
as
you
know,
and
again,
this
is
something
that
I
think
that
we
need
to
learn
from
because,
as
you
know,
some
of
these
calls
are
anonymous
right
when
they
report
homeowners
when
they
want
to
retaliate
or
send
inspectors.
So
again,
we
are
trying
to
connect
the
dots
when
we
have
already
seen
an
attempt
to
pressure
a
small
homeowner
and
connect
it
with
perhaps
a
visit
by
inspectors.
I
So
that
is
something
that
we're
learning
now
so
now
the
use
of
the
inspector
general
office
to
investigate,
because,
as
you
know,
if
there's
irregularities
now
we
are
learning
of
the
importance
of
the
investigations
because,
of
course,
the
the
corruption
and
the
you
know.
Of
course
the
city
agencies
are
not
going
to
regulate
or
themselves
so
it's
important
to
have
processes
that
allow
independent
and
again.
I
This
is
I'm
just
sharing
and
things
that
we
have
learned
about
making
sure
that
the
city
also
conducts
investigations
and
the
investigation,
sometimes
that
we
have
reported
sometimes
did
not
have
a
follow
through.
So
now
we
are
learning
how
we
can
bring
him
on
board
through
the
311
calls
now
the
inspector
general
so
that
we
can
investigate
and
ultimately
have
consequences.
I
So
these
are
some
of
the
things
and
again
to
promote
a
thing
that
one
of
we're
doing
now
with
some
community
groups
and
other
elected
officials
is
to
make
sure
that
this
ordinance
is
promoted
and
residents
are
informed
about
their
ability
to
protect
themselves.
And
again.
This
is
not
only
good
for
the
small
homeowner,
but
also
tenants
that
again
losing
natural,
affordable
housing
is
basically
for
us
translating
to
displacement.
I
We
are
in
a
serious
situation.
As
you
know,
we
we
are
losing
a
lot
of
natural,
affordable
housing.
Cities
are
not
building
in
the
scale
that
we
need
for
building
more
public
housing
and
affordable
housing,
and
this
has
resulted
on
unprecedented,
unprecedented
levels
of
homelessness.
I
think
we
all
have
seen
the
tragedies
of
viaducts
in
our
own
city
and
the
tragedies
of
thousands
of
thousands
of
people
who
live
homeless
or
in
stable
housing.
We
with
these
policies
can
prevent
that.
I
So
this
is
a
preventive
measure,
so
that
we
don't
have
more
small
harmonies
who
lose
their
homes
that
are
forced
to
sell
or
wrestle
or
tenants
who
are
evicted.
This
is
a
prevented
measure
again.
This
does
not
silver
wallet
for
these
policies.
This
is
a
combination
of
policies.
We
need
to
continue
to
create
more
affordable,
more
public
housing.
You
know
we
need
to
start
challenging
this
notion
of
the
commodification
of
of
housing,
because
the
lack
of
vestability
also
contributes
to
the
violence
to
the
mental
health.
I
These
are,
of
course,
as
you
know,
evictions
and
foreclosures
have
serious
trauma
effects
in
residents
and
family
members.
So
and
again
I
don't
know
how
many
of
you
can
perhaps
witness
an
eviction
but
or
a
foreclosure,
but
these
are
very
you
know,
tragic
incidents
that
we
are
taking
very
seriously.
We
do
not
want
to
continue
the
strengths
of
normalizing
such
massive
levels
of
displacement,
homelessness,
foreclosures
and
you
name
it
so
these
are
places.
These
are
policies
that
have
helped
us
prevent
and
regulate,
and
a
very
least
mitigate.
I
The
high
pleasure
of
developers,
realtors
and
other
special
interest
groups
that
look
at
our
communities
are
gold,
mines
and
and
ways
for
them
to
profit.
In
a
time
where,
again,
housing
is
a
human
right.
As
many
of
us
see
it,
we
believe
that
the
stability
you
know
their
homes
is
good
for
everybody.
The
cost
of
evictions
and
and
homelessness,
and
mental
health
and
health
effects
in
the
middle
of
a
pandemic
cannot
be
under
underestimated
or
oversimplified.
I
Perhaps
this
policy
can
be
enhanced
if
you
think
about
doing
this
in
your
community,
and
this
has
to
be
again
what
we're
looking
now
in
other
policies
that
we're
promoting,
for
instance,
because
of
those
30-day
notices
are
really
really.
You
know
tragic
for
families
who
have
kids
in
schools.
As
you
know,
it's
not
easy
to
find
a
schools
when
we
have
kids
who
have
and
again
in
polluter
areas
like
us
when
we
have
kids
with
autism,
when
we
have
kids
with
asthma
and
other
special
or
diverse
learners.
These
things
are
really
tragedy.
I
You
know
tragedies
when
we
have
entire
families
looking
for
homes
and
they're,
not
able
to
find
them.
When
you
look
at
the
the
pa,
the
prices
of
of
of
gasoline
inflation,
you
name
it
you
know,
having
close
proximity
to
our
schools
having
stable
homes
is
critical,
especially
in
the
middle
of
a
pandemic.
So
again,
I'm
here,
of
course,
as
I
I'm
not.
I
hope
that
he
doesn't
come
as
a
lecturer,
I'm
just
informing
of
what
we
have
learned.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
learn
and,
of
course
we
want
to
learn.
I
What's
going
on
in
evanston,
we
want
to
learn
and
and
what
hopefully
can
be,
a
policy
that
you
implement,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we
know
for
a
fact
needs
to
happen
in
the
city
in
terms
of
comprehensive
approach.
Is
that
we
need
to
leave
the
ban
on
rent
control
because,
right
now,
what
we
see
is
that
we're
not
even
able
to
give
incentives,
as
we
should
for
those
small
homeowners
who
keep
the
rents
affordable
right
now.
I
We
cannot
even
do
that,
and
developers
get
incentives,
even
as
they
displace
residents
they
get
all
sorts
of
of
public
incentives
and
and
and
breaks
when
we
have
small
homeowners
who
are
not
able
to
qualify
for
anything.
The
other
thing,
of
course,
that
we
need
to
do
is
cop
legislation,
common
sense
legislation
like
just
cause
for
eviction,
so
that
developers
cannot
just
give
you
a
30-day
notice
and
have
families
in
our
in
the
streets.
We
think
that
there
are
follow-up
policies
that
we
need
to
do
as
just
cause
for
eviction.
I
I
You
know
within
our
first
a
little
bit
over
six
months
in
office,
but
we
have
seen
now
also
the
effects
of
developers
with
these
other
policies
that
I
was
sharing
with.
You
have
been
a
big
pushback
and
even
when
the
mayor
committed
to
help
us
with
other
policies
like
just
cause,
we
have
seen
the
big
effect
and
the
big
influence
of
developers,
lobbyists
and
special
interest
groups.
So
the
connection
between
legislators
and
this
commission
and
the
city
is
is
great.
I
I
look
forward
to
continue
this
conversation
and
see
how
we
can
learn
from
each
other,
and
I
truly
hope
that
you
can
continue
to
push
for
these
kind
of
policies
that
are
going
to
really
create
a
stability
in
our
communities.
We
don't
benefit
from
this
extraction
of
wealth
that
goes
through
the
pockets
of
a
few
developers.
When
we
have
seen
you
know
that
this
does
not
retain
wealth,
we
have
a
small
homeowners
who
support
our
small
businesses
who
live
in
our
communities
who
rent
people
to
people
in
our
community.
I
We
need
to
help
them,
and
I
think
that
this
is
what's
just
our
attempt
and
or
effort,
and
I
think
just
a
step
forward
to
what
we
think
is.
Hopefully,
a
departure
from
the
corruption
and
complicity
of
elected
officials
who
had
a
responsibility
to
protect
and
help
those
small
homeowners
or
tenants
who
are
really
affordable,
especially
now
during
a
pandemic.
E
I
am
very
good
friends
with
two
social
workers
who
work
in
within
our
d65
school
systems,
and
I
can't
tell
you
how
many
nights
that
they're
working
late
trying
to
find
housing
hotels
for
families
who
have
been
displaced
that
day,
so
you
know
like
if
anybody's
listening
here
and
being
like-
oh
well,
that's
happening
in
pilsen.
That
may
not
be
happening
here.
That
is
absolutely
happening
here.
E
I
have
helped
two
different
families
over
the
last
three
years
pack
up
to
move
under
not
great
circumstances,
but
one
of
the
families
said
to
me
this
was
the
first
time
ever
in
their
lifetime
lifetime
that
they
had
a
coordinated
move,
meaning
they
planned
to
move
meaning
every
other
single
time
that
they
moved.
They
were
evicted
and
then,
additionally,
I
had
a
client
about
two,
not
even
two
months
ago,
but
six
weeks
ago
who
came
to
me,
the
landlord
was
selling
the
building.
The
lease
had
expired.
E
They
didn't
notice
and
gave
them
30
days
to
leave.
So
we
had
a
family
who
was
literally
had
30
days
to
find
housing.
They
had
four
children,
they
were
previously
paying
eighteen
hundred
dollars
and
we
were
out
there
looking
up
to
thirty
two
hundred
dollars
and
we're
struggling
to
find
anything
and
they
had
a
month,
so
they
were
desperate
because
the
landlord
could
simply
do
that.
So
I
just
kind
of
wanna
bring
some
of
those
things
home.
E
That's
just
my
experience
in
this
community
bring
some
of
the
things
that
were
said
home
and
and
make
sure
that
everybody
realizes
some
of
those
things
are
still
there
are
those
some
of
those
things
are
absolutely
happening
in
our
community.
Then
I
want
to
go
ahead
and
open
it
up
for
questions.
I
have
a
few,
but
I
want
to
let
other
folks
talk.
I
You
know
to
save
buildings.
So
again,
these
policies
are
critical
again
having
just
cause.
You
know
they
got
to
be
a
valid
reason
and
then
someone
is
buying
a
property
and
they
have
that
much
money.
I
think
it's
only
fair
that
they
are
responsible
owners
and
they
relocate
those
who
are
now
find
themselves
and
not
fault
of
their
own.
You
know
to
have
to
find
a
home.
So
again,
these
are
common-sense
policies.
There
are
dozens
of
municipalities
that
have
implemented
that,
so
I
just
want
to
igor
what
that
was
said.
I
You
know
previously
like
again
many
number
of
policies.
Unfortunately,
we
don't
have
that
in
chicago.
There
was
an
unfortunate
commitment
that
was
well
backed
by
the
administration
because
of
the
pressure
of
developers.
We
gotta
continue
to
push
back
on
having
government
that
serves
the
you
know
of
the
the
interest
of
a
few
at
the
expense
of
the
many.
I
I
tell
you
that
for
these
developers,
a
few
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
have
elected
officials,
they
act
like
their
employees,
not
like
representatives
or
communities,
have
become
unfortunately
too
much
the
norm
and
I'm
so
glad
to
see
this
type
of
conversation,
because
we
do
have
the
middle
of
pandemic
our
responsibility
to
look
at
this
kind
of
legislation
and
pass
it
so
that
we
can
really
have.
I
mean
what
what
I
mean,
and
I
hope
that
we
don't
get
to
that.
If
you
know
this,
you
know
new
variant
starts
getting.
I
F
I
had
a
comment
kind
of
related
to
annette,
I
think
byron.
I
had
read
something
about
a
development
that
they
were
trying
to
put
in
pilsen
and
I
think
you
and
the
community
organized
you
went
back
and
forth
with
the
developer
and
you
and
the
end
result
was
that
you
got
the
on
the
units
that
you
needed
because
often
I
said
this
over
and
over
again
we
have
developers
that
put
in
what
they
want,
not
what
you
know
our
community
needs.
F
You
know
we,
we
have
homeless
families
and
that's
trauma
for
children
who
don't
have
stable
housing,
and
you
know
micro
units
or
one
bedrooms
is
not
gonna
help
a
family
of
five.
You
know-
and
I
so
I
kind
of
wanted
to
hear-
and
I
said
I
don't
know
which
development
it
was,
but
I
did
read
about
it
and
that
you
were
successful.
So
if
you
could
speak
about
that
a
little
bit,
I
appreciate
it.
No.
I
Certainly,
thank
you,
darlene,
that's
a
great
question
and
I'm
really
grateful
for
the
this
kind
of
conversation.
I
wish
we
had
more
spaces
like
this
that
had
killed
that
in
city
council.
The
debates
get
caught
before
they
even
start,
but
you
know
the
they
see.
This
is
a
development
and
I
think
this
is
azure
as
legislators.
I
I
think,
as
we
learn,
and
I
think
I
learned
and
I
had
to
learn
a
little
quick
because
oftentimes,
I
don't
think
that
we
use
or
people
power,
and
we
said
because
I
see
as
elected
officials-
that's
what
you
have.
You
were
elected
by
people
so
that
you
can
use
you
know
people
power
their
trust
in
you
to
legislate
and
find
solutions
to
the
issues
that
our
community
has.
So
this
development
on
the
18th
street
and
peoria
that's
geographically
was
located.
This
is
before
I
was.
I
I
You
know
to
contextualize
so
that,
as
I
mentioned
with
the
policy,
you
see
how
the
community
evolves
in
and
these
strategies
evolve
in
mobilization
that
ultimately
results
in
in,
I
think
community
wins.
So
when
a
tint
and
peoria
and
the
60s
three
acres,
you
know
we're
going
to
be
these
non-profits
for
affordable
housing
and
maybe
headquarters
for
the
jesuits.
The
community
saw
that
with
good
eyes.
We
thought.
Well,
you
know
that's
what
we
need.
You
know.
We
don't
want
more
displacement,
we
don't
want
more
luxury
housing.
I
This
was
in
2009
and
I'm
mistaken.
There
was
a
2011
meeting
that
I
remember,
and
you
know
there
was
community
support.
But
again,
as
you
will
know,
things
changed
rapidly
right
and
you
know
the
market
changed
rapidly,
especially
with
the
bubble,
the
housing
bubble
and
again
these
bubbles
are
cyclical
and
developers
know
very
well
how
to
take
advantage
of
that.
So
sure
enough
in
you
know,
2000
2014.
I
We
tried
to
have
a
conversation
with
the
middleweight
jesuits,
the
archdiocese,
trying
to
discuss
funny
enough
we're
still
having
those
kinds
of
conversations,
and
I
think
it's
important
that
we
are
always.
You
know
in
front
that
we
demand
hearings,
that
we
think
they
do
things
on
the
open.
As
you
would
imagine,
we
didn't
have
that
as
we
do
now
that
we
tried
to
get
public
serious
public
meetings,
but
at
the
time
everything
was
behind
things.
There's
a
reason
why
this
ultimate
previous
alderman
was
indicted
or
was
part
of
the
indictment
process.
I
I
We
start
mobilizing
people
and
start
again
and
organizing
is
very
important
again
elect,
and
I
tell
you
I
learned
I
learned
first
of
you
know
the
importance
of
organizing
to
keep
our
schools
open
and
today
those
two
schools
are
open
because
of
the
people,
organizing,
not
so
much
elected
officials.
I
think
the
elected
officials
can
be
helpful
at
the
extent
that
they
are
bringing
the
information
to
the
constituents
community
meetings
and
do
things
in
the
open
so
democratically
we
can
decide
what's
best
for
our
community.
I
In
2006,
we
started
mobilizing
people
when
that
became
public
knowledge.
We
started
massive
mobilization
where
the
developer
tried
to
bring
these
meetings
to
our
community
to
normalize
that
well,
we're
gonna
do
20
affordable.
That
is
not
even
affordable
right.
It's
you
know.
20
percent
of
affordability
at
60
ami
is
not
affordable
for
communities
either,
so
they
never
lose
developers
never
lose.
You
know
they're,
always
the
system
is
designed
to
help
them
and
to
make
it
profitable
for
them.
That's
what
I
want
to
challenge
the
notion
of
commodifying
housing
as
such
so
fast
forward.
I
Thankfully,
because
of
the
massive
mobilization
of
people,
the
previous
alderman
find
no
choice
but
to
change
the
zoning
on
the
on
on
the
side
and
effectively
block
the
development
from
happening
now,
there's
a
lot
of
speculation
about
what
happened
and
what
the
previous
alderman
that
there
was
a
corrupt
argument.
The
developer
took
advantage
of
that
so
before
I
you
know,
came
in
into
office,
the
developer
decided
to
take
the
city
to
court,
so
the
the
developer
took
the
city
to
court
and
alleged
that
the
previous
alderman
had
lied
to
them.
I
That
you
know
that
you
know
they
basically
were
you
know
full,
I
you
know,
don't
know
how
to
how
developers
get
full,
but
that
item
was
voted
and
ratified
because
of
the
community
demand.
The
alderman
acted
as
he
should
have
from
the
very
beginning,
and
the
zoning
was
changed
so
that
we
can
have
a
conversation
on
this
matter.
We
believe
in
the
due
process
as
legislators,
but
doing
things
behind
scenes
going
back
on
the
reward.
Remember
from
2009
to
2015-16
nonprofits
didn't
pay
taxes
that
didn't
pay
taxes
the
history
of
this
lot.
I
Actually,
if
you
look
back,
there
was
also
team
funding
that
when
they
went
on
to
do
remediation,
so
in
other
words,
there
was
a
lot
of
public
costs
associated
with
that
when
there's
no
property
taxes
when
there's
all
this
stuff,
so
we
were
thinking
right
to
challenge
that,
but
we
did
it
with
the
due
diligence
and
the
the
zoning
change.
What
voted
and
ratified
you
have
a
lot
of
you
know.
I
People
have
a
lot
of
power
if
elected
officials
one
day
decide
to
act
on
their
behalf,
so
basically
what
we
did
as
soon
as
we
came
into
office
and
we
found
the
settlement
right,
the
the
lawsuit
in
our
desk
first.
The
first
reaction,
of
course,
is
the
city,
as
you
would
imagine,
was
well
poor.
Poor.
These
guys
were
full.
You
know,
let's
you
know,
let's
help
them
and
you
know
we
knew
a
little
bit
better.
So
we
said
you
know
what
let
the
process
played
out
if
they're
taking
us
to
court.
I
Well,
let's,
let's,
let's,
let's,
let's
do
their
due
diligence
right
and
we're
happy
to
have
a
conversation
with
them,
but
we
are
not
going
to
allow
them
to
settle
this
case
and
basically
with
money
by
their
way
into
the
community.
So
we
say:
look
if
a
lawsuit
is
what
they
want
to
want
to
do.
If
they
want
to
settle.
I
You
know,
that's
what
we're
gonna
do
you
know
we're
gonna
go
to
court
and
then
let
the
process
be
played
out
so
the
city,
interestingly
enough-
and
I
learned
very
quickly
the
importance
of
crap-
and
I
don't
know
what
the
situation
with
evanston
but
the
importance
of
having
independent
legal
counsel.
So
I
had
to
actually
go
to
consult
with
my
own
attorneys
and
through
the
attorneys
I
said:
look.
Zoning
power
is
not
in
power.
This
was
voted
and
ratified.
If
they
want
to
challenge
that
in
court.
I
They
can't
do
that,
but
that's
not
an
easy
process,
which
was
contrary
to
what
we're
hearing,
which
was
already
well.
Well,
let's
just
settle
right.
This
was
a
bad
thing.
Let's
settle
you
know,
let's,
let's
just
get
away,
we
don't
want
the
lawsuit.
We
don't
want
the
liability,
but
the
liability
to
the
community.
Nobody
talks
about
the
liability
to
500
luxury
units
and
what
would
have
done
to
our
community
is
something
that
we
actually
brought
to
the
table.
I
Interestingly
enough,
when
we
were
that
that
up,
you
know,
and
we
knew
that
you
have
zoning
power
we've,
the
conversation
drastically
changed,
so
we
instructed-
and
after
you
know,
some
hesitation
by
administration,
we
showed
the
need,
we
showed
the
assessment
and
the
need
for
affordable
housing.
We
also
show
the
legality
of
the
decision.
I
was
personally
witness
of
that
and
that
we're
happy
to
go
to
court.
I
Of
course,
as
you
would
imagine
the
developer
once
they
find
out
that
we
actually
we're
going
to
challenge
it
with
the
dual
process,
with
due
diligence
that
we
said
we're
happy
to
have
a
public
meeting
to
discuss
the
matter
very
quickly,
as
you
would
imagine,
they
decided
to
settle
with
the
city.
So
we
settled
we
use
stiff
money
to
settle
for
that.
I
If
money
is
public
dollars
and
they
should
be
used
to
create
affordable
housing
is
adequate
use,
active
dollars,
we
settle
with
a
developer,
and
now
I'm
really
honored
to
say
that
the
the
blood
sweat
and
tears
that
went
on
the
direct
actions,
the
press
conferences,
the
disruptions.
I
tell
you
that
I
personally
was
kicked
out
of
a
meeting
once
right
when
I
was
asking
questions
right
and
how,
in
one
of
these
spaces,
I
was
dragged
out
of
one
of
the
meetings
by
security.
I
That's
what
the
decisions
were
made
before
just
by
they're
having
the
audacity
of
asking
questions
so
that
now
having
the
ability
to
now
listen
to
the
community
again
is
not
now
us
doing
whatever
we
want.
No,
we
are
democratic.
You
know
principles
we
are
respectful
of
the
due
process
and
the
due
process
resulted
now
in
a
settlement
that
is
going
to
have
now
all
affordable
housing
on
the
side.
Now
we
are
doing
this
democratically.
I
We
having
conversations
with
the
department
of
housing,
we're
going
to
have
community
processes
and
we're
going
to
do
a
hundred
percent
affordable.
It's
our
hope
that
we
challenge
our
city
to
do
now,
units
that
are
at
30
percent
ami.
There
are
other
ideas,
of
course,
for
senior
housing,
even
cooperatives
that
are
coming
coming
to
fruition,
so
we
have
their
own.
You
know
one
of
the
few
cooperative
housing
models
in
the
city
of
chicago
that
is
successful
as
well.
But
again,
this
is
an
old
all,
affordable
housing
project.
I
We
are
now
actually
using
we're
going
to
buy
an
a
nearby
facility
that
was
a
trucking
school,
because
again,
this
is
no
longer
viable
in
our
community.
Well,
now
you
see
now
more
family
size
units
are
going
to
likely
be
developed.
Here
is
no
longer
used,
so
we
are
now
even
bought
extra
land,
so
this
is
about
seven
acres
of
land
that
we're
gonna
have
for
all
affordable
housing,
the
minimum
that
we
can
develop.
There
is
at
least
280
units
of
all
affordable
housing
that
we
want
to
target
for
families
and
seniors.
I
That
is
the
way
that
we
think
that
we
can
address
the
crisis
by
now
bringing
options
for
our
families,
who
now
have
kids
in
our
schools,
of
course,
seniors
in
our
community.
So
I
think
for
going
for
500
luxury
units
to
now,
maybe
even
500
affordable.
There
is
a
big
difference.
Voting
matters,
elections
do
matter,
representation
matters
platforms
matter,
but
more
than
anything
else,
people
power
matters
and
that's
what
we're
here-
and
I
tell
you
that
that
I
hope
that
is
a
model
to
the
city,
but
we're
doing
democratically.
I
Some
of
the
same
groups
that
before
were
kicking
us
out
and
all
that
we
said
we're
not
going
to
do
the
same.
We're
not
going
to
kick
anyone
out
of
the
table
everybody's
welcome,
but
we're
going
to
do
it
with
the
due
process
and
we
believe
that
we
can
earn
the
support
of
the
community
for
our
all
affordable
housing
project.
And
hopefully
there
can
be
a
blueprint
for
the
city
or
what
truly
affordability
means.
C
Thanks,
carla
and
and
thanks
elder
person,
sutra
lopez
for
coming
tonight,
spending
so
much
time
with
us.
I
really
have
two
questions.
The
first
is
about
the
data.
You
obviously
needed
the
data
to
show
that
the
ordinance
was
effective,
which
means
you
had
data
to
start
with.
So
what
was
the
kind
of
data
that
helped?
You
make
the
case
for
the
ordinance
two
and
a
half
years
ago
about
building
the
conversions
and
tear
downs
and
displacement
numbers
and
property
values,
I'm
just
guessing,
but
you
had
to
have
I'm
guessing
something
to
help.
I
Well,
so
it
is
now
it's
part
of
the
secret.
Let
me
correct
that,
so
it
is
part
of
the
city
code
now
so
it's
part
of
city
code,
so
the
city
code
is
not
in
effect.
What
I
meant
is
like
two
years
since
it
was
implemented.
It's
still
a
law.
It
will
continue
to
be
as
a
permanent
law,
but
it
is
in
so
again
we
still
have
relatively
little
data
right
in
terms
of
like
city-wide
data
that
has
been
compiled.
I
I
know
that
we
won't
have
the
numbers,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we
use
again
was
around
data
right.
We
had
at
least
a
handful
of
cases
in
our
own
community
and
what
we
did
with
the
department
of
housing
is
to
show
look.
We
showed
the
need.
We
had
a
handful
of
cases
that
were
showing
how
that
I
mean,
even
I
I
know,
darlene
and
carla
are
sharing.
I
But,
honestly,
what
it
became
very
important
is
the
conversation
with
other
older
persons,
because
when
I
was
talking
with
them
and
athena,
I
think
that
we
I
introduced
this
with
at
least
35
sponsors
out
of
the
50,
which
is
not
common
in
in
city
council
you'd,
be
surprised
how
many
people
say:
hey
I've
seen
those
kind
of
cases
in
my
community
too
right
and
people
who
necessarily
agree
with
with
with
us
all
the
time
could
not
deny.
I
mean
this
is
going
to
conservatives.
I
Liberals,
you
know
across
the
spectrum
we
all
see
in
our
communities
what's
happening
right
and
again,
when
we're
making
the
case
with
perhaps
those
who
are
too
reliant
on
the
on
the
market
or
the
you
know,
the
free,
you
know
the
visible
hand
and
all
that
I
think
we're
able
to
make
a
case
with
real
things
affecting
real
people.
Again,
I'm
just
telling
you
that
was
our
case.
I
You
know
at
the
beginning
of
the
conversation
because
we're
still
in
the
early
stages,
so
those
cases
that
we're
able
to
you
know
showcase
we're
very
instrumental
to
get
the
to
get
in
to
departmental
housing.
I
think
that
they've
been
super
helpful
in
providing
now
city-wide
data,
but
at
the
time
was
really
the
cases
that
we
were
compiling.
I
mean,
I
think
carla
right
away
was
able
to
provide
a
very
compelling
case
of
cases
that
are
happening
right
now
in
your
community.
I
So
when
we're
able
to
have
that
conversation,
I
tell
you
we
convinced
35
out
of
the
50
aldermen
or
other
persons
right
off
the
bat
and
when
we
introduced
the
ordinance
with
35
sponsors
right
and,
of
course,
the
department
of
housing-
and
I
want
to
be
thankful
not
only
for
this
ordinance,
but
also
for
the
tintan
peoria.
Right
again,
we
were
able
to
document
the
14
000
people
that
were
able
to
to
be
that
they
were
displaced.
We
were
able
to
get
that's
what
I
mentioned
early
on.
I
The
lowest
committee
for
better
housing
show
that
at
least
5
000
of
them
they
can
be
tracked
as
being
evictions.
So
this
normal
trend
or
this
you
know
developers
tried
to
be
these.
This
benevolent
force
right.
That
is
only
here
to
improve
your
community
right
or
communities
and
when
you
start
looking
at
the
practices
that
they
employ,
I
think
that
you
start
seeing
more
testimonies,
more
people,
more
sponsors
and
ultimately,
legislation.
That
is
fast.
I
So
I
think
now
again,
as
I
said,
we
are
still
waiting,
because
this
now
this
data
is
going
to
be
compiled
by
three
one.
One
calls
with
this
was
just
implemented.
I
don't
know
months
ago.
I
don't
know
how
many,
but
it's
very
that's
very
recent.
That's
what
I
meant
so
the
the
citywide.
You
know
the
city
one
database
is
still
information,
because
the
the
the
initial
data
was
all
compiled
by
the
individual
aldermanic
offices
and
that's
very
limited
right.
You
probably
I
mean
we
did
this
with
qualitative
data.
Probably
more
likely.
I
I
don't
know
if
we're
able
to
get
between
everybody
who
worked
with
us
in
the
development
of
policy,
maybe
a
few
hundred
cases,
but
that
was
enough
to
convince
people
that
this
was
a
real
problem.
When
35
sponsors
came
forward,
you
know
that
was
really
compelling
right,
but
ultimately
now,
when
we
have
hopefully
a
database
of
that
are
being
caused.
That
being
reported,
I
think
that
we're
able
to
get
more
quantitative
data,
you
know
from
different
parts
of
the
city.
I
I
I
would
say
that
department
of
housing
is
very
data
dreaming,
at
least
in
or
in
order
I
mean
you
have
policy
makers
that
I
think
that
I'd
be
willing
to
help,
at
least
with
that
information,
but
again
because
this
is
just
months
in
the
making.
I
don't
know
what
they
have
right,
but
I
think
that
at
least
on
the
formation
of
the
policy
with
what
we
have
testimony
is
qualitative
data
that
we're
able
to
show
and
with
the
other
sponsors.
C
I
I
In
fact,
out
of
that,
by
the
way
the
city
had
this
horrific
idea
of
landmarking,
you
know
one
of
our
biggest
areas.
I
tell
you
that
landmarking
has
to
be
done
very
carefully.
So
that's
another
thing
that
I
I
don't
know
what
was
happening
ever
so
maybe
this
is
not
something
you're
dealing
with
but
landmarking
as
because
one
of
the
things
that
we
saw
when
these
predatory
practices
were
happening
is
something
that
you're
gonna
see,
which
is
demolitions
right
demolitions.
I
You
know
the
conversions
right,
single
family
homes
being
turned
down,
and
now
you
have
you
know
monstrosities
that
happen
very
fast
in
our
community.
So,
as
a
result
of
of
these
conversations,
these
communities,
not
only
we
did
the
the
anti-predatory
practices
legislation,
but
I
maybe
suggest
that
you
look
at
the
the
anti-conversion
ordinance
that
we
pass
and
the
demolition
fees,
because
these
are
all
symptoms
of
these.
You
know
predatory
practices
right.
I
So
I
think
that
those
are
some
of
the,
I
would
say,
hardest
hit
communities
like
pilsen
I'll
say
because
of
the
proximity
because
of
the
corruption,
the
six
or
six,
because
it
was
an
amenity
that
would
brought
a
bunch
of
developers
in.
So
you
see
like
right
off
the
bat
communities
like
logan
square
pills
and
like
london
square
was
farther
along
in
the
displacement
and
the
education
process.
I
think
that
if
we
had
like
10
000
people
displaced,
I
think
their
numbers
were
double
that.
I
So
I
tell
you
that
you
know
we're
able
to
locate
certain
communities
and
again
that's
what
I
think
that
the
collaboration
and
developing
of
policies,
so
not
only
would
be
the
anti
the
predatory
practices
we
did,
the
anti-conversion
and
the
demolition
fees.
I
still
think
that
they
were
too
tame
to
what
we
can
be
doing.
I
think
those
demolition
fees
should
be
used
not
as
revenue
generators
but
as
deterrence
to
developers
that
are
really
tearing
communities
apart.
I
I
think
that
there
are
a
lot
of
things
to
learn
from
this,
but
I
think
jane,
that's
a
great
question
in
terms
of
what
communities
started
this
and
I'm
glad
that
you
mentioned
that,
because
it
was
not
only
down
to
the
anti
displacement
or
anti-predatory
practices,
but
also
was
the
entity
conversion
and
the
demolition
fees.
I
hope
that
just
cause
and
other
policies
follow
right,
but
you're
right.
I
It
started
with
a
handful
of
communities
that
now
is
a
city-wide
policies
and
I'm
glad
now
we're
having
now
a
conversation
with
another
city,
and
I
really
would
like
to
see
not
kind
of
how
do
we
collaborate
and
learn
to
work
how
things
will
implement.
I
tell
you
what
everything
we're
doing
in
chicago
is
oftentimes
being
watered
down,
so
you
can
do
a
lot
more
italian,
so
you
can
learn
from
what
we're
doing
and
do
a
lot
more
than
what
we
do.
E
To
add
two
quick
things
here,
one
I
think
jane.
You
asked
a
good
question
around
the
data
and
again,
data
is
not
always
just
numbers
and
the
other
person
brought
up
the
fact
that
the
data
is
sometimes
the
stories
and
that
you
know
like.
I
keep
hemming
and
whoring
over
the
fact
that
our
part
of
our
name
is
empowerment,
and
I
don't
know
what
the
hell
that
means
for
us.
E
We
have
so
many
non-profits
that
work
within
this
housing
reality
kind
of
as
they
encounter
these
stories
help
maybe
having
them
help
to
share
the
stories
and
just
having
a
repository
for
that,
so
that
one
it
gives
a
way
to
kind
of
hear
more
than
just
a
survey
right.
But
here
what?
What
are
the
real
issues
going
on
out
there?
But
two
it
gives
us
something
to
for
lack
of
a
better
word
legislate
with
right.
E
A
E
H
Yeah
yeah-
I
just
want
to.
I
have
one
question.
I
just
want
to
know
a
few
things
one
certainly
I
I
think
there's
certainly
room
to
raise
evanston's
demolition
fee,
currently
rs
sits
at
10
000
dollars
and
that
hasn't
moved
for
a
while
and
here
in
evanston
our
demolition
fees
are,
the
only
you
know,
kind
of
regular
sustainable
source
of
funding
for
our
affordable
housing
fund.
So
well,
certainly,
demolition
fees
shouldn't
be
revenue,
generators
in
our
case,
demolition
fees
are
going
to
a
good
place.
H
So
I
do
think
they're
certainly
going
to
raise
that.
I
do
wonder
one
question
I
have
is
certainly
we
I
think,
would
agree
that
turning
single-family
homes
into
affordable
multi-units,
particularly
in
a
city
like
evanston,
is
a
good
thing
and
we
certainly
don't
want
to
you
know,
add
another
level
of
expense
for
people
who
actually
are
doing
the
right
thing
and
are
trying
to
build
affordable
housing.
H
So
I
certainly
support
increasing
the
demolition
fee,
but
certainly
want
to
do
that
in
in
a
smart
way.
But
the
one
question,
and
one
thing
that
stuck
out
to
me
when
all
the
person
sitcho
lopez,
was
responding
to
darlene's
question
about
you
know
one
of
the
developments
in
in
the
25th
ward.
You
mentioned
that
you
spoke
with.
H
You
know
that
independent
legal
counsel,
because
I
think
the
people
power
and
you
know
organizing
community
is
certainly
effective,
but
I'm
sure
one
of
it
seemed
like
one
of
the
key
tools
that
you
had
was
just
the
law
being
on
your
side
and
being
able
to
use
some
legal
leverage.
So
I'm
curious,
you
know
we
have.
A
corporation
council
was
appointed
by
the
city
manager.
It's
not
really
independent
council.
Certainly
chicago's
corporation
council
is
you
know
under
it's
an
executive
office,
that's
controlled
by
the
mayor.
H
I
So
that's
a
that's
a
great
question
like
I
said
you
know,
and
let
me
just
like
in
terms
of
the
demolition
fees
that
that's
a
great
point
that
you
made
in
chicago.
We
have
things
that
are
fifteen
thousand
dollars
in
the
demonstration
it's
too
low.
For
but
again
we
were
a
little
cautious.
You
know
because
indeed
you're
right,
sometimes
there
are
also
affordable
housing
developers.
You
know
that
we
don't
want
it
to
be
be
restricted
to
that
and,
unfortunately,
legally
right.
I
You
know
you
cannot
have
you
know
different
rules
for
different
people.
Unfortunately
right
so
I
think
that
this
is
something
that
we
are
still
exploring
right
and
that's
what
I
think
that
it
you
know
we
need
to
have
more
legislation
about.
You
know
lifting
the
ban,
like
there's
a
lot
of
constitutional
issues
that
we
have.
You
know
when
you
know,
rent
control
is
banned
at
the
state
level.
Right
and
there's
you
know
it
basically
ties
you
from
providing
incentives
to
those
who
perhaps
have
the
rents,
affordable
and
so
forth.
I
So,
but
I
will
say
that
that
is
certainly
something
to
be
considered.
I
do
still
think
that
we
do
need
to
provide
help
to
those
who
want
to
build
affordable
housing,
but
we
do
need
to
provide
you
know
more
legislation
that
makes
it
very
difficult
for
developers
to
just
come
and
turn
you
know,
homes
apart
and
develop.
So
again
you.
H
I
Well,
that's
what
we
were
told
right
that
basically
when
we
were
now,
this
is,
of
course
post
the
legislation
right,
but
at
the
time
right,
the
law
department-
and
you
know
the
conversation
was
like
look.
We
cannot
put
these
hefty
fees
because
it
will
affect
affordable
housing
developers,
you
know
and
then,
at
the
same
time
you
know
we
don't
want
to
say
well
different
rules
for
these
developers
different
rules
for
this
about.
I
would
like
to
challenge
that
notion.
I
I
think
that
we
can
be
more
creative
with
the
way
of
you
know
that
we
are
implementing
that
again.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
you
know
the
15
000
is
nothing
for
some
of
these
developers
and
again
the
city
really
favored
this
model
of
make
it
a
revenue
generator.
You
know,
rather
than
make
it
a
deterrent.
But
again
I
don't
want
to
derail,
but
I
think
something
to
consider
and
going
back
to
the
illegal,
because
again,
some
of
these
challenges
to
policy
come
legal
right
now
in
the
city
of
chicago.
I
There
is
conversation
happening
again
and
I
tell
you
my
strong
experience
when
I
came
to
peoria
when,
fortunately
I
was
able
to
get
you
know
a
zoning
attorney
which
gave
me
some
good
advice
and
again
when
I
had
too
many
people
in
the
room
with
so
many
just
too
much
information
happening.
You
know
when
you
have
legal
counsel
that
is
representing,
and
you
have
attorney-client
privilege
the
issue
here.
Oftentimes
is
separating
powers,
executive,
legislative
and
judicial.
You
know
the
legal
power
and
again
when
that
is
that
independence
is
not
there.
I
You
have
the
issues,
because
the
advice
is
sometimes
but
to
benefit
what
the
executive
thinks,
rather
than
what
is
possible
or
what
the
legislative
things
right.
So
I
think
that
what
we
need
to
do
and
again
in
chicago
we
do
have
this
conversation.
It's
gone
like
different
and
published
blocking
votes.
Last
time
was
all
sorts
of
arguments
in
little
in
in
the
council,
but
it's
necessary.
I
tell
you
I've
seen
the
benefit.
I
mean
we
have
a
kingdom
peoria.
Basically,
so
because
we
have
good
legal
advice
right.
I
wish
that
legal
advice
came
early
on.
I
If
that
was
the
case,
we
already
have
those
affordable
housing
bill
there,
but
because
we
were
like
in
all
these
legal
arguments,
you
know
we
basically
wasted
a
lot
of
time
that
I
thought
we
could
have
gained.
So
I
personally
think
that
independence
of
powers
is
critical
right,
that
having
independent
legal
counsel
so
that
we
can
talk
about
demolition
fees.
You
can
talk
about.
You
know
in
this
case.
What
they
were.
I
mean
this
is
not
a
developer
lost
money
right,
we
paid
for
it.
I
I
You
know
land
so
that
we
can
develop
affordable
housing
because
one
on
public
housing,
because
one
of
the
biggest
obstacles
that
we
have
right
now
because
of
the
cost
is
the
cause
of
land,
the
speculation,
construction
costs
and
so
far,
so
we
got
to
be
creative
about
incentivizing,
affordable
and
public
housing
and
land
is
critical
on
that.
So
I
think
that
the
conversation
in
chicago
continues,
but
again,
actually
by
the
way,
the
demolition
fees
that
we're
using
right
now
came
from
your
legislation.
So
let's
not
underestimate
the
ability
to
collaborate
either.
I
Or
unfortunately,
you
know,
I
did
no
no
well
in
this
one,
because
it
was,
it
was
advising
the
the
the
city
right.
We
do
have
an
expense
account
right,
so
we
did
have.
But
again,
why
do
I
have
to?
What
do
we
have?
I
mean
we
have
so
much
need
right
for
other
stuff
so
having
to
spend
on
an
attorney
when,
when,
when
yeah-
and
it
went
through
our
expense
account
for
because
this
was
government,
it
was
a
government
yeah.
D
H
Pin
down
how
you
did
it,
because
one
of
the
things
in
evanston
is
the
older
people?
Don't
even
have
those
expense
accounts
to
get
that
independent
legal
counsel
and
we're
really
at
the
whim
of
our
corporation
council,
who
is
hired
by
the
city
manager
and
so
really
trying
to
figure
out
how
in
evanston
we
can
have
some
of
that
independent.
H
You
know,
advice
and
and
hearing
that
through
an
expense.
Account
means
that
maybe
we
got
a
push
for
the
aldermen
to
here
to
either
have
an
independent
council,
that's
hired
by
the
city
council
or
having
you
know,
some
kind
of
expense
account,
so
that's
really
helpful
and
it
and
illustrates
how
that
helps
in
a
whole
host
of
ranges.
You
know,
especially
here
with
housing.
E
E
E
Two
years
doesn't
fix
the
problems
in
pilsen,
but
it
is
very
heartening
when
we
see
numbers
changing
and
again
as
as
anybody
who
was
here
when
we
first
started
talking
about
this,
the
goal:
there's
no
one
silver
bullet
to
fix
these
issues
of
housing,
and
so
you
know
we
had
our
pillows
and
all
the
person
come
and
give
us.
You
know
a
reality
and
a
full
picture
of
one.
E
E
There'd,
be
no
one
two,
so
it
it
may
be
darlene
and
devon,
as
well
as
anybody
else
who's
willing
to
meet,
or
we
break
it
up
into
two
different
groups,
where
or
or
more
than
two,
where
one
group
is
working
on
the
the
hassling
piece.
Another
group
is
working
on
the
both
ends
of
the
conversion
right,
because
there's
the
banning
future
conversion
or
putting
a
moratorium
which
may
be
easier
to
pass.
That's
all
part
for
this
discussion
on
conversion
from
two
flats
to
single-family
homes,
but
also
there's
the
other
end.
E
E
But
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
sort
of
in
time
for
next
meeting
is
that
we
have
some
sort
of
draft
around
these,
so
this
group
can
look
at
it
and
then
we
can
get
that
moving
by
the
end
of
summer
into
city.
Council
reminder:
we
do
not
control
city
council,
we
do
not
know
control
what
they
vote
on,
what
they
even
pick
up
to
consider.
E
But
I
also
do
like
the
idea
that
could
be
achieved
in
a
simple
on
google
form
that
we
somehow
partner
with
some
of
these
either
community
members,
slash
churches,
slash
social
workers
from
d65,
slash
non-profits
that
are
our
community
to
maybe
get
some
of
the
stories.
So
if
we
get
these
ordinances
in
front,
we
might
have
stories
that,
like
tell
the
reality
of
not
just
like
well,
sometimes
this
happens,
but
it
tells
the
reality
of
jane
sue.
You
know
who
used
to
live
in
the
second
ward,
who.
A
E
This
experience
and
we
have
an
actual
experience,
so
those
are
my
thoughts
so
moving
forward
darlene.
I
want
to
put
it
to
you
first
and
then
open
it
to
anybody
else.
Any
other
thoughts
like
those
are
my
ideas
of
kind
of
moving
this
forward,
but
I
really
want
to
build
on
this
momentum
and
energy
that
we,
it
was
a
gift
to
us
today
and
to
say
thank
you
so
very
much
all
the
person,
saint
lopez,
for
bringing
your
wisdom,
your
experience
and
your
energy.
I
Thank
you
so
much.
It
was
a
pleasure
and
at
least
you
know,
if
there's
a
subgroup
and
they
want
to
continue.
I
mean
I
know
where
I'm
in
touch
with
darlene.
So,
but
you
know,
if
there's
a
subcommittee,
love
to
continue
working
on
policy
and
thank
you
and
commend
you
for
all
your
efforts,
look
forward
to
working
together.
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you
all
right.
F
So
since
I
you
know,
I,
I
basically
used
byron's
ordnance
for
this
anti-predatory
and
I
had
already
previously
created,
like
a
google
doc
with
the
other
two
on
there
to
mimic
it.
So
then,
when
you,
so
what
what
would
the
group
do
then
kind
of
I
mean
other
than
what
would
they
yeah?
What
would
they
do?
Yeah.
E
I
think,
ultimately,
we're
not
going
to
have
enough
time
to
discuss
here
in
this
meeting,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
these
ideas
aren't
restricted
to
these
three
things
right.
You
know
where
things
that
we're
aware
aware
of-
and
so
I
want
to
give
a
little
bit
of
time
to
have
other
members
of
the
commission
voice-
opinion.
Add
things
subtract
things
just
get
a
second
pair
of
eyes
on
it.
I
mean
you
know,
I
know
the
reality.
F
E
And
then
you
know
omar
and
jane.
I
don't
know
if
this
you
know,
if
you
have
an
interest
in
sort
of
being
on
any
one
of
the
groups,
that's
sort
of
drafting
this
or
any
particular
one
or
if
there's
another
idea,
you
have,
as
I
said,
there's
no
silver
bullet.
That's
going
to
fix
this
issue,
so
I'd
like
to
kind
of
put
this
together
as
a
basket
of
not
quite
options.
Right
because
I
mean
we
need
the
whole
bouquet
here
right,
not
saying
that
all
of
them
will
pass.
B
H
E
I
I
don't
know
how
I
mean
again,
I'm
assuming
that
there's
stuff
about
ordinances
that
I
just
simply
don't
know,
and
so
maybe
omar
and
I
meet,
and
we
kind
of
put
it
in
english
about
what
our
thoughts
do.
Our
research
put
it
in
english.
Maybe
we
pull
some
from
other
ordinances.
We
find
so
it's
someone
and
then
maybe
you
kind
of
can
be
the
vetter
at
the
end.
I
put
it
in
whatever
format
it
needs
to
be
to
kind
of
present.
Does
that
make
sense.
E
E
People,
yes,
so
I
will
reach
out
to
you
as
well
for
the
two-flat
discussion.
Anybody
else
who
cares
to
be.
You
can
leave
a
private
message
me
or
just
tell
me
now.
You
know
I
don't
think
meeting
with
matt
correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong,
I
don't
know
the
rules,
I
think
the
rules
kind
of
suck,
but
anyway,
if
there
are
rules
against
us,
including
community
members.
Please
let
me
know
because
I
am
not
intending
to
break
the
rules,
but
I
might
step
over
them
so.
H
Yeah,
I
mean
I'll
just
jump
in
that
a
community
member
can
be
if
it's
a
task,
force
or
kind
of
a
subcommittee
that
that's
totally
fine.
If
it
was
a
council
committee,
because
this
is
an
independent
commission,
the
rules
are
a
bit
more
flexible.
If
there's
a
committee,
you
could
only
put
people
on
a
subcommittee
that
are
already
members
of
the
main
committee
in
this
case
it's
commissioned,
so
that
should
be
fine.
E
A
B
J
I
can
I
can
just
go
over
things
pretty
briefly
and
then,
if
anybody
has
questions
as
a
follow-up,
I'm
more
than
happy
to
share
more
information,
and
I
think
actually
a
lot
of
this
information
is
gonna.
You
know
really
resonate
with
you
all
and
not
be
super
surprising
to
you
all.
Unfortunately,
so
I'm
just
gonna
go
ahead
and
share
my
screen.
J
Okay,
can
you
all
see
this
slide
deck
perfect?
Thank
you
so
much
carla,
so
the
so
I'm
kristen
meyer,
the
community
health
specialist
from
the
health
department
and
every
five
years.
We
do
a
community
health
assessment
that
assesses
kind
of
holistically,
the
health
and
well-being
of
the
community
and
then
from
there
informs
a
plan
for
what
we
need
to
do
to
to
improve
health
and
quality
of
life
for
all
residents,
and
this
is
kind
of
the
the
model
that
we
used
this
time
around
to
think
about
health.
J
So
I
think
it's
really
well
aligned
with
what
you
know
kind
of
how
your
committee
also
thinks
about
health
and
well-being.
We
had
a
really
strong
equity
focus
within
this
assessment
and
we
thought
we
were
defining
health
as
being
much
broader
than
just
you
know,
kind
of
diabetes
outcomes,
or
you
know
obesity
or
the
things
that
we
used
to
think
about
in
public
health.
Now
we're
really
thinking
about.
J
J
And
you
know
this.
This
pattern
kind
of
continually
showed
up
in
our
data
and
for
all
of
you,
you
might
be
kind
of
recognizing
this
pattern
in
our
old
redlining
maps,
and
so
I
I'm
assuming
based
on
the
conversations
that
you
all
are
probably
familiar
with
the
process
of
you.
The
history
of
redlining
and
and
kind
of
what
that
has
looked
like
in
evanston.
J
J
All
right
and
so
going
into
living
conditions,
and
again
I'm
gonna
go
over
this
quickly
in
the
interest
of
time,
but
happy
to
talk
to
anybody
about
it.
You
know,
following
this
meeting
a
median
household
income
follows
the
the
same
kind
of
pattern
where
we
just
look
at
evanston
compared
to
the
us.
We
look
really
great,
but
then,
when
we,
when
we
start
to
look
neighborhood
by
neighborhood,
we
see
that
there's
over
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
difference
in
median
household
income
by
census
tract
and
that
this
falls
along
racial
lines.
J
Just
you
know,
thinking
about
housing
which
has
been
talked
about
a
lot
tonight.
This
is
a
map
of
excessive
housing
costs,
so
folks
who
are
spending
30
percent
or
more
of
their
household
income
on
housing
expenses.
We
see
you
know
again
that
that
fifth
ward
area,
half
of
households
are
spending.
You
know
approximately
a
third
or
more
of
their
income
on
housing
costs,
and
we
can
also
look
at
then
ex
extremely
cost
burdened
households.
J
We
can
also
look
at
median
home
value
and-
and
you
know
see
how
that
is
very,
very
different
by
neighborhood,
and
you
know,
especially
you
know,
as
we
we've
got
a
lot
of
conversations
about
developers,
you
know
entering
the
that
fifth
ward
census
tract
8092
area.
When
we
look
at
the
the
house
prices
that
they're
proposing
for
their
new
builds,
they
are
very,
very
different
than
the
current
median
home
value
in
that
area.
J
We
can
look
at
folks
who
are
reporting
mental
health
distress,
and
we
see
you
know
higher
rates
of
mental
health
distress
where
folks
are
more
economically
distressed
and
then
looking
at
more
traditional
things
like
diabetes,
we
can
see
again,
you
know
we
look
really
good
compared
to
the
us
if
you
just
stop
at
the
average.
But
then,
when
you
kind
of
look
at
a
more
granular
level,
we
have
a
much
more
severe
burden
of
diabetes
in
our
fifth
ward,
formerly
redlined
community.
J
J
So
I
know
I've
gone
through
the
data
super
quickly,
just
a
couple
takeaways
from
the
report
overall,
which
will
be
coming
out
in
september,
if
not
before.
There's
there's
a
well-documented
case
of
disproportionate
harm
to
both
the
black
community
and
to
susp
to
census
tract
80
92.
That
pattern
shows
up
in
the
data
time
and
time
again.
J
We
certainly
probably
don't
have
time
for
that
tonight,
but
again
anybody
who
would
like
to
have
a
conversation
or
I'm
happy
happy
to
come
back
and
talk
more
about
the
action
plan
portion
of
our
community
health
assessment.
Just
one
kind
of
closing
thought,
I
guess,
is
that
you
know.
As
carla
said
you
know,
data
is
more
than
just
numbers.
The
stories
are
important
too.
J
So
that's
one
thing
that
we're
going
to
do
as
soon
as
we
can
publicly
release.
The
report
is
push
this
out
and
show
it
to
as
many
community
members
as
possible
and
then
kind
of
gather
their
stories
and
gather
their
input
on
in
terms
of
what
we
should
be
doing
to
take
urgent
action
on
these
findings.
J
E
Start
giving
these
presentations
with
a
dose
of
wine
or
some
prozac
or
something
at
the
end,
because,
while
while
the
data
is
necessary,
it
is
quite
depressing,
but
thank
you
kristin
I
mean.
Hopefully
this
adds
to
the
fire
and
as
a
reminder
to
folks
that,
like
you
know
all
the
ills
we
see
in
the
world
from
crime
to
poor
health
outcomes,
to
everything
is
on.
E
I
heard
david
stonewall
say
this:
he's
a
professor
at
university
of
illinois
in
the
education
department
there
but
say
that
studies
have
long
shown
that
there
are
four
things
that
are
needed
to
reduce
crime
and
poverty
and
that's
affordable
house
health
care.
I
mean
affordable
healthcare,
affordable
housing,
education
like
affordable
education,
access
to
education
and
job
opportunities.
E
E
You
know,
I'm
here
to
demonize
developers
like
everybody
else,
even
as
I
have
developed
property-
and
so
I
am-
I
am
not
here
for
not
all
developers
like
not
all
white
people-
I'm
not
here,
but
this
is
discussion
right.
I'm
here
to
demonize
developers
like
everybody
else,
but
there's
a
reality
of
what
the
cost
out
there,
and
unless
we
do
something
about
how
we
the
density,
we
allow
the
rules.
We
allow
the
building
codes.
We
allow
again
not
to
make
buildings
that
fall
down
on
people.
E
That's
not
one
yeah,
there's
not
two
ends
of
every
spectrum.
I
mean
there
are
two
ends
but
like
it's
not
we
have
to
be
at
one
of
them
or
the
other.
We're
not
gonna
get
to
a
point
where
we
can
actually
start
making
impact
on
portable
housing
so
sue.
If
I
could
give
you
the
last
like
five
minutes,
we
have
to
talk
about
what's
been
going
on
since
we
the
last
time
I
think
you
spoke
to
this
group,
we
were
still
waiting
on
the
zonku
report
waiting
on
the
what
report
the
zoneco.
D
G
G
G
Basically,
as
a
moral
document
to
look
at
how
it
is
either
perpetuating
or
creating
segregation,
inequity
and
increasing
housing
costs,
and
so
they
did
a
review,
and
you
guys
have
that
in
your
packet.
You
have
sort
of
their
initial
findings
so
because
their
review
is
just
the
beginning
of
this
project.
There
were
not
many
surprises
in
that
review.
G
They
found
that
evanston's
zoning
code
is
indeed
quite
restrictive,
that
it's
focused
very
much
on
preserving
property
values
and
maintaining
the
character
of
the
community
and
that,
in
fact,
the
provisions
in
each
of
the
zoning
districts
were
primarily
about
keeping
that
zoning
district.
The
way
it
is
now
okay,
very
rigid,
very
sort
of
inflexible
in
terms
of
how
owners
can
use
their
land
and,
in
particular,
how
they
can
use
their
land
to
increase
diversity.
Increase
inclusion
decrease
costs.
G
G
What
it
is
about
is
really
looking
at
what
are
the
values
under
the
zoning
decisions
that
have
been
made
not
too
long
ago?
We
actually
heard
one
of
the
plan.
Commissioners
say
out
loud
that
we
designed
evanston
for
normal
families,
okay,
and
so
we
sort
of
started
to
feel
that
the
people
who
were
making
the
zoning
decisions
and
sort
of
determining
how
evanston
was
zoned,
who
could
build?
What?
Where
who
could
live?
G
We
have
found
that
the
people
that
primarily
show
up
needing
help
or
struggling
with
housing
are
people
with
lower
incomes,
say
you
know
below
50
percent
of
the
area,
median
income,
people
of
color
and
people
with
disabilities,
and
so
we
now
have
engaged
organizations,
seven
organizations
from
evanston
that
really
have
networks
among
those
populations
in
evanston
that
they
have
agreed
to
reach
out
to
so
we
received
funding,
we're
compensating
them,
and
there
are
seven
groups.
They
include
the
evanston
naacp
evanston
own.
It
advocates
for
action.
G
Radiola
difference
working
with
loud,
a
consulting
corporation,
the
center
for
independent
futures,
that
they
work
primarily
with
people
with
disabilities,
vajm
consulting
and
I
think
that's
it
so
they
are.
We
are
now
embarking
on
a
community
outreach
process
where
each
of
those
groups
is
looking
at
the
most
effective
ways.
They
can
engage
their
networks
throughout
the
community
and
even
expand
their
networks
to
reach
as
many
people
as
possible,
and
the
goal
is
to
get
their
input
on
these
values
behind
the
zoning
code
and
what
their
opinions
should
be
on.
G
Is
it
more
important
to
have
parking
versus
affordable
units
we
because
of
the
zoning
code?
Very
often,
this
decision
is
made
in
favor
of
more
parking,
and
so
you
know
what's
more
important
to
some
of
the
folks
that
have
not
been
heard
from
before,
and
then
what
we
want
to
do
is,
with
this
group,
develop
some
guidelines
that
the
various
committees
and
commissions
can
use.
G
Add
it
to
the
standards
that
they
have
to
use
when
they're
making
decisions,
but
guidelines
that
are
focused
on
equity,
desegregation
and
housing,
affordability
that
they
can
start
using
as
soon
as
possible
and
then
also
develop
feedback
that
the
city
can
use
as
it's
creating
its
new
comprehensive
plan
and
as
it
is
re-writing
the
zoning
code,
which
should
be
happening
after
the
comprehensive
plan
is
done.
So
we've
got
some
short
term
goals
to
provide
immediate
guidance
and
some
longer
term
goals
to
include
the
feedback
in
the
longer
term
planning.
G
E
Are
there
any
of
those
committees
that
are
needing
extra
people
extra
help?
I'm
sooner
I
had
a
conversation
earlier
today
and
I
need
to
get
my
butt
in
september
back
on
to
one
of
those
committees,
but
is
there
anything
since
we
have
a
group
of
both
community
members
and
the
commission
here
today
that
you
know.
G
G
Yes,
we
for
one
are
wanting
to
spread
the
word,
so
the
seven
organizations
that
are
working
with
us
are
going
to
be,
you
know
doing
their
best
to
reach
as
many
people
as
possible,
we're
going
to
put
all
of
their
plans
together
we're
going
to
try
to
identify
where
there
are
gaps
where
we're
still
not
reaching
people,
and
we
definitely
need
additional
people
to
help
to
fill
those
gaps
and
to
extend
this.
We
also
you
know
our
focus
is
not
necessarily
to
how
to
say
this
properly.
G
Our
focus
is
really
on
getting
voices
that
haven't
heard
been
heard
before,
but
we
also
need
representation
of
the
voices
that
have
been
heard,
and
so,
if
there
are
people
who
you
know
really
value
the
zoning
code,
the
way
it
is,
we
need
their
input
on
that
and
because
there
are
trade-offs
and
any
of
the
trade-offs
are
going
to
affect
some
people
positively
and
some
people
negatively.
So
it's
basically
one
to
talk
to
people
who
care
about
the
zoning
code.
So
it's
to
your
question,
the
more
the
merrier.
G
I
would
say
as
well
that
we
have
some
excellent
help
from
some
other
organizations,
so
first
repair
with
robin
simmons
is
working
with
us.
We've
got
some
technical
assistance
from
cmap,
primarily
on
how
to
talk
about
zoning
in
a
way
that
can
get
us
down
to
the
real
sort
of
values
that
are
underlying
it
without
having
to
teach
people.
G
G
So
this
is
a
hot
topic
and
I
think
that
the
fact
that
there
is
funding
out
there
for
this
kind
of
work,
the
funding
isn't
so
much
about
the
zoning.
The
funding
is
about
the
inclusion
of
a
broad
range
of
people
of
diverse
ethnicities,
races,
abilities
and
so
on,
including
them
in
this
process
is
what
we're
getting
the
funding
for.
So
I
think
the
city
should
consider
that
there
is
funding
for
increasing
equity
in
the
processes
that
it
uses
to
make
decisions.
A
E
Darlene,
this
is
darlene's
second
attempt
to
kind
of
bring
to
us
the
first
time.
It
was
kind
of
an
introduction
to
the
idea,
and
it
gave
several
of
us
a
chance
to
go
and
research
and
see
what
was
happening
and
then
kind
of
bring.
You
know
these.
These
concepts
of
different
ordinances
that
have
worked
in
chicago
and
like
chicago
is
not
the
only
place.
We
know
that
this
concept
of
reconversion
or
allowing
conversion
from
single
family
to
multi-family
is
done
a
lot
in
toronto.
E
It's
done
in
montreal,
it's
done
in
minnesota,
it's
one
of
the
recent
places
that
has
passed
an
ordinance
to
allow
that.
So
you
know,
none
of
us
are
out
here
recreating
the
wheel.
None
of
us
are
brilliant.
I
mean
you're,
all
brilliant
you're,
all
wonderful
right,
but
it's
not
like.
We
need
to
like
be
the
the
one
to
figure
this
out.
Folks
are
doing
it.
Folks
are
stumbling.
E
I
should
say
part
of
the
reason
we
want
to
have
this
equity
survey
is
that
we
we
kind
of
understand
what
the
what
the
the
priority
is
of
the
community
and,
of
course,
I've
been
taking
sneak
peeks
at
the
data
and
housing
is,
you
know
one
of
those
foolings
that's
floating
to
the
top,
so
we're
attempting
to
have
ourselves
prepared
to
act
on
it.
You
know
because
it's
the
whole
nation
is
in
a
housing
crisis
right.