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A
B
I'm
sorry
I
forgot
my
headset,
which
is
inopportune.
B
Yeah
after
I
do
the
roll
I'll
see
if
I
can
figure
something
out
so
kimberly,
walton.
B
Alejandra
sorry,
darlene
cannon.
A
A
D
E
A
E
D
B
So
yeah
all
in
I
think
just
all
in
favor.
C
D
F
Well,
I
would
say
something-
and
I
hope
that
I
I
I
have
never
done
this
before,
but
I
have
been
reading
about
what
what
you're
thinking
about
doing-
and
I,
if
I
understand
it,
right
buildings
that
have
been
that
are
now
more
than
single-family
homes,
that
I
guess
there
are
people
that
are
going
in
and
turning
them
into
single-family
homes.
So
there
had
been
two
units
or
three
units
in
a
building
and
now
they're
being
turned
into
one
family
units.
Do
I
have
that
right.
F
So
I
I
understand
there
are
many
two
flats
like
I've
walked.
You
know
I've
lived
in
evanston
for
decades
and
I
walk
around
and
I
see
two
flats,
and
I
I
guess
I
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
saying
that
buildings
that
were
built
originally
as
two
flats
they
to
for
them
to
be
converted
into
a
single-family
home
seems
wrong.
I
mean
it
really
is
taking
away
housing
units
for
for
people
but
houses
that
were
originally
single-family
houses
and
were
turned
into
two
flats.
F
You
know
in
the
1920s
or
something
like
that
or
even
three
flats
and
and
now
they're
being
told
that
they
that
those
houses
cannot
be
that
if
I
understand
it
right
that
those
houses
then
could
not
be
turned
back
into
single
single
family
homes.
That
feels
different
to
me
than
a
house
that
a
building
that
was
originally
a
two
flat
and
having
that
turned
into
a
single
family
home.
I'm
sorry,
I'm
not
being
very
clear,
no
you're
being
clear
it.
F
It
feels
it
feels
different
to
me,
and
you
know
I
I'm
nobody,
so
it
doesn't
matter
what.
F
I
I
I
and-
and
I
guess
I
find
this
a
you
know
it's
a
it's
an
issue
near
and
dear
to
me.
I
live
in
a
house
that
was
built
in
the
1880s
as
a
single
family
home
in
the
1920s,
it
was
turned
into
a
two
flat
in
the
1980s
was
turned
into
a
three
flat.
We
bought
it
in
1990
and
it
turned
it
back
to
a
two
flat
and
and
at
some
point
I'll
sell
it.
F
I
mean
I'm,
I'm
old
and
going
up
and
down
all
the
stairs
is
killing
me,
but
I
would
feel
bad
if
I
couldn't
say
well,
you
know
a
potential
owner
could
turn
it
back
into
a
single
family
home,
and
I
guess,
if
this
happens,
then
I
would
not
be
able
to
say
that
if
it
originally
been
a
two
family
home,
then
I
I
have
no
problem
being
able
to
say
you
can't
turn
this
into
a
single
family
home,
but
it
feels
like
there
should
be
two
different
categories
for
that.
F
That's
just
my
personal
opinion.
Thank
you.
D
I
have
a
question
for
you
just
to
clarify
when
you
said
you
would
feel
bad
if
you
can't
see
that
they
could
turn
into
a
single
family
home.
Could
you
just
unders
help
me
understand
that
you
know,
for
somebody
moving
on
like
help
me
understand
the
bad
feelings
around
not
being
able
to
then
the
future
person
not
being
able
to
use
it.
That
way.
F
I
I
guess
it
the
way
our
house
is
now
you
know
as
the
owner.
I
live
on
the
second
and
third
floor
with
my
family
and
I
rent
out
the
first
floor
and
and
that's
great,
but
I
think
it
takes
a
certain
person
to
be
willing
to
be
a
homeowner
and
also
be
a
landlord.
You
know,
you
know
you
get
called
in
the
middle
of
the
night
deb
the
toilet's
overflowing.
F
Okay,
I'm
coming
down
with
my
you
know,
plunger,
and
you
know
certain
people
don't
want
to
have
anything
to
do
with
that.
So
I
would
hate
if
I
ever
chose
to
sell
the
house,
I'm
sure
at
some
point
in
the
next
100
years.
I
will
do
that.
I
would
hate
to
limit
who
would
be
interested
in
buying
this
house
that
it
would
have
to
be
someone
like
me
who
doesn't
mind
being
a
landlord
and
a
homeowner.
F
You
know
am
I
do
you
understand
at
all
what
I'm
trying
to
say
that
it
would
limit?
You
know
people
might
want
to
say.
Oh,
that
would
be
a
great
house.
It's
you
know
it's
in
a
neighborhood
where
it's
all
single-family
homes
we'd
like
to
turn
that
back
into
a
single-family
home.
I
I
wouldn't
want
to
say.
Oh
sorry,
you
can't
do
that.
You
know
it
can
only.
D
I
understand
that
from
a
real
estate
perspective,
I
understand
that
from
a
financial
perspective,
I
was
just
trying
to
make
sure
we
understood
fully
the
equity
argument
being
made.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
clarifying,
okay.
D
Okay,
matt,
were
you
gonna
go
over
the
I
mean.
I
don't
know
that
we
need
to
go
over
every
single
one
of
these.
D
B
Yeah,
I'm
happy
to
give
a
little
update.
I
put
together
a
little
something
that
just
to
kind
of
get
you
all
up
to
date
on
most
of
the
questions
that
I
have
data
for,
so
maybe
I
can
run
through
that
quickly
and
if,
if
there's
a
point
where
you
want
to
stop
or
talk
about
something
more,
we
can
do
that.
But
no.
B
B
B
B
Sorry
now
you
all
are
seeing
how
messy
my
home
screen
is.
It's.
B
Kind
of
great,
so,
since
the
last
time
we
talked
there
were
over
120
new
responses,
so
I
think
that
was
good
and
worthwhile
to
keep
it
open
and
just
a
brief
note
on
this,
like
statistical
validity
of
this
survey,
we
have
over
just
about
over
double
the
amount
that
we
would
need
to
be
statistically
valid
for
the
population
of
evanston.
B
So
for
the
first
one,
ending
racial
racial
inequity
is
the
responsibility
of
government
about
70
of
respondents,
either
agree
or
strongly
agree
with
the
rest
of
residents,
spread
out,
dispersed
between
the
rest
and
then
to
address
inequity.
Resources
must
be
allocated
based
on
need
not
always
equally
allocated,
and
so
this
was
even
more
strongly
agreed
with
approximately
80
of
residents
agreed
or
strongly
agreed
with
the
remaining
20
in
other
areas.
B
And
then
how
confident
are
you
in
the
evanston
police
department's
ability
to
treat
bypoc
and
white
people
equally?
And
this
one
there's
a
it's
pretty
significant,
we're
with
approximately
52
of
people
having
a
great
deal
or
a
fair
amount
of
confidence,
but
also
48
of
which
means
48
of
people
have
little
or
no
confidence
in
the
police
department's
ability
to
treat
people
equally.
B
And
then
have
you
or
someone
in
your
family
moved
out
of
evanston
in
the
past
three
years
due
to
the
cost
of
housing,
and
this
shows
that
17
of
responses
are
yes,
an
82
percent.
No,
I
would
still
say
17
is
a
significant
number,
and
here
I
did
something
a
little
bit
wacky
so
bear
with
me,
as
I
tried
to
explain
so.
I
know
this
isn't
the
most
beautiful,
but
I
think
it
adds
some
interesting
context
to
this
question.
B
So
this
table
shows
that
approximately
40
of
the
black
or
african
american
respondents
said
that
they
know
they
have
a
family
member
who
has
moved
out
of
the
city
due
to
the
cost
of
housing
and
32
percent
of
hispanic
or
latinx.
Respondents
said
that
they
know
someone
or
have
a
family
member
who's
moved
out
of
evanston
for
lack
of
or
because
of
the
cost
of
housing
compared
to
9.4
of
white
people.
Who
responded
to
this
survey.
Having
known.
G
B
B
This
is
similar
to
the
other
kind
of
broad
questions
with
70
of
the
respondents
saying
that
they
approximately
70,
saying
they
agree
or
strongly
agree,
and
the
remaining
30
percent
kind
of
being
evenly
dispersed.
B
And
then,
how
likely
is
it
that
you'll
be
able
to
afford
to
live
in
evanston
in
the
next
five
years?
And
this
one
we
can
see
that
about.
21
of
respondents
said
that
they
don't
think
that
they'll
be
able
or
that's
not
very
likely
or
highly
unlikely,
that
they'll
be
able
to
afford
to
live
instant
in
evanston
in
the
next
five
years
and
that
an
additional
12
say
that
they
don't
know,
which
I
think
is
also
a
concerning
number
a
similar
level
of
stress.
I
would
say.
B
And
then,
how
significant
of
a
racial
equity
problem
are
these
issues
for
your
household,
and
this
shows
that
for
people's
lived
experience,
the
most
problem
common
problem
was
racial.
Racial
inequities
in
the
schools
but
and
following
closely
behind
that
were
healthcare
access,
police
treatment
of
bipod
communities
and
disproportionate
city
resource
allocation.
B
And
then
question
eight:
how
significantly
of
a
racial
equity
problem?
Are
these
issues
in
evanston
for
the
larger
community,
so
at
the
proportion
level,
housing
affordability
jumps
to
the
top
and
then
with
racial
inequities
in
schools
and
the
police
treatment
out
of
bypoc
on
communities,
kind
of
close
behind
and
then
of
the
equity
issues
above
which
do
you
consider
the
community
of
evanston's
most
important
issue,
and
you
can
see
that
it
is
pretty
heavily
leaning
towards
housing,
affordability,.
B
With
racial
inequities
in
schools
also
being
an
outlier
question
12,
how
would
you
rate
the
city
of
evanston's
commitment
to
racial
justice
and
inequity,
and
this
was
a
pretty
mixed
response,
but
approximately
48
of
respondents
said
that
it
was
either
good
or
fair.
B
And
then
here
on
question
15:
are
there
any
racial
justice
initiatives
undertaken
by
the
city
of
evanston
in
the
last
three
years
that
have
been
successful,
and
I
think
these
the
responses
in
this
table
are
relevant
and
important,
but
you
can
also
see
right
under
the
question
that
202
people
skipped
this
question,
which
to
me
means
that
they
don't
think
that
or
they
can't
think
of
any
initiatives
that
have
been
successful,
which
means
approximately
30
percent
of
the
people
who
respond
to
this
survey.
B
Yeah-
and
I
can
sorry
I
can
try
and
find
a
way
to
share
that
information.
I'm
sorry
if
you
can
hear
someone's
in
my
house,
so
it's
so
I'm
a
little
bit
flustered.
B
B
Right
we
have,
we
have
the
data,
but
it's
not
in
a
way
that
I
thought
could
be
easily
presented.
B
Yeah
yeah
I'll
share
after
this
I'll
share
all
the
raw
data
with
carla
and
she
can
share
it
as
she
sees
fit
because
it
comes
in
an
excel
spreadsheet
which
isn't
easy
to
digest.
B
So
question
16.,
so
for
these
questions
it's
kind
of
a
rating
scale,
three
being
neutral,
five
being
strong
towards
the
phrase
on
the
right
and
one
being
strong
towards
phrase
on
the
left,
and
this
shows
that
kind
of
the
average
score
given
to
this
was
three
leaning
a
little
bit
towards
welcoming
and
here
in,
between
racist
and
anti-racist
respondents,
rated
it
on
average
about
a
three
between
segregated
and
integrated
respondents
were
rated
on
average
about
a
two
which
is
one
of
the
strongest
deviations
from
the
middle.
B
Throughout
all
of
these
questions
between
individualistic
and
collaborative
that
was
basically
right
in
the
middle
between
homophobic
and
pro-fall
sexual
orientations,
you
can
see
kind
of
a
strong,
positive
tendency
in
respondents,
and
that
was
also
one
of
the
strongest.
B
Between
elitist
and
non-elitist,
this
is
another
one
of
the
strongest
deviations
towards
elitist
and
then
between
not
disability,
friendly
and
disability,
friendly.
It's
about
right
down
the
middle
and
then
moving
on
to
question
26
over
the
past
12
months.
How
many
times
have
you
or
a
member
of
your
family
experience
discriminatory
events
in
evanston?
B
What
aspect
of
your
identity
did?
The
discrimination
pertain
to?
We
can
see
that
racial
or
ethnic
identity
was
the
one
of
the
most
common
or
was
the
most
common.
That
respondents
noted
and
also
socioeconomic
status
was
another
common
response
and
sex
was
the
other
kind
of
pretty
common
response.
Then,
over
the
past
12
months.
What
how
many
times
have
you
witnessed?
Others
experience
discriminatory
events
and
kind
of
clearly
from
the
last
slide.
B
You
can
see
that
there's
people
see
it
happen
more
often
than
they
experience
it,
which
I
think
we
would
expect,
but
the
kind
of
top
trends
are
the
same.
Racial
or
ethnic
identity
and
socioeconomic
status
are
the
kind
of
far
outliers.
In
this
section
and
before
I
do
questions,
I'm
just
going
to
have
one
conclusion
which
that
I
think
that
this
survey
provides
strong
like
a
pretty
strong
mandate
for
this
commission
to
do
work
on
affordable
housing
in
the
city
in
general
to
work
in
that
area.
B
Yeah
and
I
can
leave
the
slides
up
if
you
all
want
or
I
can
move
to,
we
can
go
back
to
the
other
screen
if,
as
long
as
there's
no
one
no
slides
that
people
want
to
see.
B
H
B
And,
and
so
this
question
this
was
on,
how
would
you
rate
the
city
of
instance,
commitment
and
it's
about
50
percent
people,
say
good
or
very
good,
and
then.
B
I
think
it's
about
another
20
or
27
that
say
it's
fair
and
then
the
remaining.
D
And
so
next
steps
around
this
is
that
the
commission
made
a
commitment.
Well,
I
should
start
with
you
know.
Our
purpose
of
this
was
to
create
a
baseline
right.
We
don't
know
where
you
don't
know
what
you
have
to
fix
or
where
you're
going.
If
you
don't
know
where
you
are-
and
you
know
I
guess
I
I'll
say
I
feel
better
now.
D
You
know
when
I
felt
like
that
I
felt
after
the
first
weave
of
like
300
came
in
where
not
as
many
people
thought
that,
like
things
like
affordable
housing
was
a
community
or
government
responsibility.
So
I'm
glad
to
see
that
is
a
higher
majority
now,
but
it
is
also
this
commission's
responsibility
to
create
a
report
that
can
be
disseminated
across
the
community,
because
we're
not
gonna
have
a
chance
to
present
in
this
this
presentation
format.
So
it
needs
to
be
something
that's
kind
of
a
you
know.
D
I
would
say
no
more
than
three
pages
readable
summary
of
what
this
is
and
so
I'll
treat
this
like.
We
treat
kind
of
the
subcommittees
we
just
had
for
the
affordable
housing
stuff
if
they're
folks,
who
are
either
have
this
skill
set
or
willing
to
be
part
of
the
group
that
breaks
this
up
to
try
to
you
know,
create
a
a
short
report.
Please
you
know
message
me,
let
me
know
or
just
let
me
know
right
now
and
we'll
do
another
subcommittee.
D
That's
you
know
focused
on
everybody
would
have
like
three
questions
or
four
questions,
and
you
would
kind
of
write
the
section
on
that
once
we
have
an
overall
agreement
of
sort
of
the
the
tone
of
everything
so
that
you
know
each
section
matches
so
to
speak.
So,
if
you're
interested
in
helping
with
that,
please
let
me
know
any
other
questions
before
we
move
on.
E
This,
but
just
thinking
that
the
city
has
communications
professionals
who
can
help
develop
infographics,
create
them
this
this,
whatever
we're
looking
at
doing
here,
the
the
report
and
can
help
make
it
understandable
to
folks
and
share
it
so
matt.
Thank
you
for
helping
us
understand
that
this
is
just
to
sit
statistically.
B
Right,
it's
relevant,
I'm
not
an
expert
in
surveys.
I
think
you
may
be,
but
I
just
did
some
research
today
about
what
is
required
as
far
as
sample
size
for
a
population,
the
size
of
evanston
to
be
statistically
valid,
and
we
have
far
past
that.
E
D
I
definitely
would
utilize
the
city
to
make
it
pretty
and
create
the
infographics,
and
things
like
that
I
def
like
I
don't
want
to
have
somebody
without
an
equity
lens,
how
to
put
this
curating
this
yeah
curating
it
right
like
there's
a
certain
there's
something
we
want
people
to
walk
away
with
from
this,
and
so
you
know
I'm
happy
to
have
somebody
make
it
pretty
but
like
at
the
very
least
we
need
to
be
providing.
D
You
know
the
key
takeaways
and
like
something
about
what
this
is
telling
us
right
and
then
they
can.
You
know
edit
the
bg's
inside
of
it
and
make
it
look,
professional
and
stuff
like
that
that
you
know
so,
thanks
for
the
reminder
on
that,
because
that's
the
piece
that
is
most
annoying
to
me
so
happy
to
pass
that
off.
Let's.
E
D
C
All
right,
your
screen.
H
D
All
right
so
just
a
reminder
of
where
we're
at
anybody
who
wasn't
here
last
time
and
just
kind
of
understanding
what
our
commission
is
and
what
non-power
we
wield.
You
know
this.
We
started
with
the
survey
that
we
created.
I
don't
know
months
ago,
at
this
point
covered
as
a
blur,
with
the
knowledge
that
affordable
housing
was
an
issue
already
being
mentioned,
a
lot
at
city
council
to
all
the
folks,
knowing
that
that
was
going
to
bubble
up
to
the
top
or
to
the
top
of
the
the
list.
D
When
we
did
this
survey
and
so
one
of
our
meetings,
we
kind
of
said,
let's
go
out
and
start
researching
what
is
out
there,
what
are
other
communities
doing?
What
are
the
possibilities
around
affordable
and
nice,
affordable
and
moderate
housing
to
help
provide
more
inventory
and
to
ease
the
struggles?
D
This
was
probably
early
in
covid,
which
is
the
time
where
everybody
was
kind
of
literally
stuck
in
their
house,
and
we
weren't
seeing
the
christ
the
housing
crisis
as
bad
as
it
is
so
fast
forward,
probably
at
least
a
year
and
a
half
since
that
initial
conversation
we're
in
even
more
dire
straits.
And
so,
as
a
commission,
we
are
working
to
create
what
is
shaping
up
to
be
five
different
ordinance
suggestions.
Some
are
in
ordinance,
summon
resolution.
D
Some
is
making
a
change
to
an
existing
ordinance
and
we'll
get
to
all
of
that
with
the
understand
that
we
don't
wield
the
power
to
actually
vote
on
any
other.
D
So
you
know
I'll
just
like
to
mention
that,
so
I'm
just
kind
of
reviewing
I'm
not
reviewing
everything
matt
did,
but
the
things
that
are
pertinent
to
this
is
just
kind
of
pointing
out
again
that
when
we
ask
people
what's
the
most
important
like
racial
equity
issue
for
our
community,
affordable
housing
comes
out
far
and
beyond
anything
else
close
to
50
and
then,
when
we
try
to
figure
out
what
people's
second
most
important
issue
to
folks
there's
another
20
22,
something
like
that
percent
here.
D
So
you
know
what
we
were
expecting
to
happen
is
at
the
top
of
mind
and
a
critical
issue
for
our
community,
and
this
is
when
we
ask
people
we
ask
the
question
of
like
personally
is
affordable.
You
know
what
what
are
the
racial
equity
issues
for
you
or
equity
issues
for
you,
and
then
we
asked
what
about
the
larger
community
and
again
such
a
different
way
of
getting
at
this
question.
D
We
see
that
affordable
housing
is
coming
out,
so
I
just
kind
of
want
to
preface
that
I
do
want
to
back
up
and
talk.
I
mean
I
see
bills
here
so
kind
of
talking
to
bill,
but
this
is
a
lesson
not
just
to
bill
and
to
evanston.
Now
this
isn't
as
a
lesson
to
all
of
evanston
and
how
you
know
how
how
we
maintain
and
replicate
and
refine
white
supremacy
without
even
using
racial
words.
D
So
after
our
last
meeting,
we
were
two
articles
written
about
what
we're
hoping
to
do
and
what
we're
hoping
to
accomplish
with
one
path
towards
easing
the
affordable
housing
issues
in
evanston,
and
a
comment
was
made
here
that
you
know
we
only
had
anecdotal
evidence,
even
as
we
brought
a
community
member
and
all
the
person
of
chicago
community
where
this
has
been
done
and
has
been
easing
the
pressures
around
and
has
dropped
the
number
of
the
conversions.
D
And
then
there
were
a
lot
of
comments
about
how.
But
you
know
like
this
idea
that
this
is
anecdotal,
even
as
I
stand
here
as
a
volunteer.
Yes,
but
also
as
a
realtor
as
a
developer
in
our
community
and
as
a
member
of
the
community
that's
most
affected
by
this,
and
you
know
this
is
what
we
call
lived
experience.
D
So,
while
america,
you
know
like
why
we
want
to
say
that
anecdotal
evidence
doesn't
get
us
anywhere
and
that
we
want
data.
I
want
to
kind
of
remind
us
that
live
the
experience
for
the
people
on
the
ground
in
the
community
actually
facing
it
counts
for
a
lot,
not
to
mention
my
other
qualifications,
but
I
also
want
to
get
to
the
point
of
data
right.
So
that's
another
tool.
D
You
know
we
want
data,
we
want
to
see
the
data,
we
don't
believe
in
lived
experiences,
and
so
we
get
another
article
that
says
two
flat.
Deconversion
averages
only
two
per
year
with
lovely
comments
by
folks
who
you
know
don't
post
their
names
that
basically
there's
no
problem
here.
Nothing
to
see
folks
are
just
making
stuff
up.
D
We
don't
even
have
an
issue,
but
that's
the
funny
thing
about
data,
though
data
will
show
you
exactly
what
you
want
to
see
you'll
twist
it
the
way
you
want
to
twist
it
to
see
what
you
want
to
twist
it
to,
and
the
other
thing
that's
coming
up
here.
You
know
it
reminds
me
of
the
difference
between
equity
and
things
like
charity
and
equality.
D
You
know
when
we
I
go
back
to
the
data
in
the
survey
we
had
a
40
45
percent
of
people
who
said
that
equity
is
a
priority
for
the
city
and
I
would
argue
that
evanston
is
still
in
its
charity.
Slash
equality.
D
You
know
our
quote-unquote
reparations
program,
it
takes
money
from
pot
money
from
people
buying
weed
and
turns
it
into
a
program
that
gives
to
somebody
else
and
the
way
we
view
that
nothing
is
taken
away
from
any
other
citizen,
and
so
it's
it
doesn't
hurt
anybody
else.
It's
like
giving
a
little
bit
of
charity
right.
Yes,
you
gave
something,
but
it
didn't
change
for
you
or
equality
allowing
other
people
to
get
married.
Okay,
great.
We
gave
something,
but
it
didn't
touch
us.
It
didn't
hurt
us.
D
This
is
the
difference
between
making
systemic
change
when
resources
are
limited.
So
what
we
are
proposing
around
and
I'm
gonna
stop
calling
the
conversion.
I'm
gonna
start
calling
it
maintaining
the
unit
count.
D
D
So
back
to
the
data
that
folks
like
we
might
want
to
say
that,
even
though
the
last
three
years
you
know,
there's
not
been
a
whole
lot
of
anything
with
covid,
but
that
it's
only
two
a
year,
but
this
is
the
reality.
The
second
war
is
where
this
is
happening.
44
of
these
deconversions
are
happening
in
the
second
ward,
another
16
percent
in
the
fourth
ward
and
another
nine
percent
in
the
sixth
ward.
D
D
Some
people
back
to
lived
experience
are
witnessing
this
realizing
this
living
with
this
on
their
block
living
with
this
in
the
community.
While
others
get
to
not
live
with
it,
and
hence
they
can
say
it's
not
happening
or
it's
not
a
big
deal.
I
want
to
also
point
out
that,
while
44
percent
of
these,
the
conversions-
and
you
know
the
foia
that
was
made
happened
in
the
second
ward
32,
almost
a
third
of
all
of
them
happened
on
florence
and
dewey
alone.
D
Dewey
is
right
next
to
florence,
and
in
the
second
ward,
there's
a
four
block
radius
between
florence,
dewey,
darrow
and
then
dodge
every
single
one
of
these
candy
conversions
took
place
in
that
floor,
block
with
distance
east-west,
so
it's
not
even
happening
across
the
whole.
Second
ward,
it's
happening
in
certain
patches.
D
Similarly,
the
fourth
ward
was
relatively
heavily
hit,
as
well
as
the
ninth
ward,
but
I
racialized
everything.
This
is,
after
all,
a
racial
equity
commission,
and
so
this
is
a
map
of
evanston
that
shows
us
the
racial
equity
distribution.
D
I'm
going
to
be
silent
for
a
second
and
let
everybody
take
in
the
red
dots.
Oh,
I
can't
see
it
at
the
bottom
of
the
mine.
I
don't
know
if
I
cut
off
the
but
I'll
help
you
out.
The
red
dots
are
white,
folks,
white
households,
the
blue,
dots
are
black
households,
obviously
there's
asian
and
hispanic
and
other
things
in
there
as
well.
But
that's
what's
mostly
hopping
out
at
you.
H
D
So
I'm
going
to
give
you
my
version.
My
version
is
not
the
gospel
truth,
but
it's
a
version
this.
You
know
one
of
the
comments
on
evanston
now
and
the
folks
who
refuse
to
always
put
their
names
in
there
cowardly,
but
that's
a
different
story.
You
know
said
that,
oh
maybe
this
is
happening
somewhere
close
to
howard,
again,
not
our
problem.
D
This
is
happening
in
our
community
where
there
is
a
mix
of
moderate
housing
to
buy
and
proximity
to
whiteness,
when
I
said
that
it's
happening
here
in
the
second
ward,
which
is
like
the
center
of
the
second
ward,
not
over
here
in
the
second
ward,
not
super
east
in
the
second
ward,
which
is,
you
know,
mainly
converted
already
it's
happening
in
the
spots
that
has
the
mix
of
where
you
can
get
folks
to
pay
the
million
dollars
for
the
home,
and
you
can
still
buy
something
for
three
four
hundred
and
then
convert
it
and
sell
it
for
one
point:
something
million
so
in
these
communities,
where
there's
a
mix
of
red
dots
and
blue
dots.
D
That's
where
it's
happening
now.
We
want
to
look
back
at
the
history
and
say
in
the
last
13
years:
it's
only
two
per
again:
it's
not
happening
up
here
in
the
sixth
ward.
It's
not
happening
very
much,
it's
not
happening
at
all.
In
the
first
ward,
it's
not
happening
really,
there's
one,
I
think
in
the
third
ward,
but
we
just
had
a
decision
made
by
our
school
community
to
put
a
new
school
in
the
fifth
ward,
we've
already
heard
from
residents
that
they've
amped
up,
which
is
what
prompted
this
whole.
D
The
first
part
of
this
anti-gentrification,
the
first
ordinance
on
there
that
the
calls
that
folks
were
already
receiving
amped
up
in
anticipation
of
developers
and
investors
that
that
community
will
also
then
gentrify.
D
D
What
we
need
to
be
looking
at
is:
how
can
we
stop?
What
we
know
is
happening
in
those
places
that
have
proximity
to
whiteness,
and
I
want
you
to
show
you
here,
with
the
fifth
ward,
closest
to
downtown
closest
to
the
fifth,
the
first
ward,
again
extremely
white
closest
to
the
seventh
ward,
again
extremely
white,
closest
to
the
sixth
ward.
D
What
we
know
about
what
happened
in
two
four
and
nine,
and
what
we
can
presume
is
likely
to
happen
with
the
fifth
ward,
as
there
are
other
engines
that
are
gonna
produce
and
expedite
gentrification
in
those
neighborhoods.
So
anybody
who
wants
to
stay
looking
backward
great,
but
I'm
about
to
look
what
we
can.
I
want
us
to
look
at
what
we
can
prevent
from
happening
based
on
what
we
know
has
happened
in
the
past.
D
So
with
that
being
said,
we
already
have
the
language.
We've
had
two
subcommittees
that
met.
We
have
the
language
completed
on
this
first
piece.
I
don't
believe
that
you
know
there's
any
reason.
This
moving
forward
to
first
the
planning.
We
figured
out
the
paths
for
each
one
of
these,
the
planning
and
development,
the
panning
and
development
group
or
commission.
D
I
can't
remember
what
they
call
them
and
then
through
to
council-
and
this
is
just
focusing
on
the
anti-predatory
language
of
you
know
within
180
day
period,
there's
only
so
many
contacts
can
be
made
by
a
phone,
email,
etc
to
any
residents
asking
them
about
the
sale
of
their
house.
So
if
they're
interested
in
selling
their
house-
and
I
think
we've
covered
this
a
lot,
so
I
don't
want
to
kind
of
spend
too
much
time
on
that.
D
There
are
four
other
recommendations
that
rose
up
from
these
subcommittees
and
in
discussion
with
all
the
persons
one.
You
know
we've
discussed
and
we're
going
to
call
it
maintaining
the
unit
count
of
any
building
under
four
units.
I
want
to
thank
the
member
of
the
community
who
talked
about
homes
that
were
previously
homes
that
were
turned
into
two
flats.
D
You
know
where
you
said
it
was
your
understanding
wouldn't
be
allowed.
There
was
actually
no
discussion
of
that
before.
So.
Thank
you
for
bringing
that
to
our
thank
you
for
bringing
that
to
our
attention
and
we'll
do
you
know
like
we'll
figure
out
where
those
lie.
I
have
to
go,
investigate
and
see.
Do
those
are
those
under
like
have,
you
know,
has
the
zoning
of
that
changed
or
what
happens
in
that
case?
So,
thanks
for
bringing
that
to
attention
it's,
but
there
was
no
clear.
D
You
know
understanding
of
that
before.
There's
also
questions
that
have
come
to
me
about
what
happens
to
conversions
of
large
condo
buildings.
We
are
not
talking
about
large
condo
buildings.
We're
talking
about
two
flats,
three
flats
four
flats,
and
the
reason
here
is:
it
is
almost
impossible
for
a
family
who
is
renting,
who
cannot
afford
to
buy
a
house
or
to
rent
a
large
house
to
find
housing
in
our
neighborhoods
that
are
not
like
downtown
right.
D
That's
where
the
housing,
if
you
think
about
the
fourth
west
end
of
the
fourth
ward
west
like
or
center
end,
I
guess
oh
no
west
end
of
the
fourth
center
of
the
second
based
on
the
way
those
are
situated,
those
those
communities
that
are
you
know,
walkable
neighborhoods,
have
parks,
etc.
D
That
have
that
suburban
feel
that
folks,
like
right,
it
is
almost
impossible
to
find
rentals
in
those
unit
in
in
that
in
that
area,
and
that's
what
we're
trying
to
conserve.
Not
necessarily
stop
somebody
who's
already
in
a
large
building
with
multiple
units
who
buy
it
if
they
buy
it,
I
want
to
convert
it
or
whatever
they
might
change
one
bedrooms
in
the
three
bedrooms
or
that's
not
our
focus,
not
saying,
there's
not
a
problem
there.
D
That's
just
not
what
we're
addressing
so
units
on
the
four
and
you
know
we
have
spoken
to
two.
All
the
persons
one
of
the
or
the
person
reed
is
on
was
on
our
in
our
small
group
committee
discussing
and
helping
draft
these
and
so
and
he's
had
conversations
with
others,
and
you
know
we
have
been
able
to
identify
where,
in
the
current
ordinance,
we
would
be
looking
to
modify
that
and
that
would
also
go
through
the
planning
and
development
committee.
D
D
I
believe
in
oregon
no
sacramento
around
adu,
so
we
cities
have
gone
out
there.
They
have
made
it
okay
to
add
an
adu,
which
you
know
we
were
originally
talking
about.
How
do
we
make
sure
that
if
somebody
who
owned
a
single
family
home
had
the
option
to
add
units,
we've
reviewed
the
adu
ordinance
and
given
that
it
allows
adu
used
to
be
attached
detached
part
of
the
garage?
It
could
pretty
much
cover
so
already?
D
If
somebody
has
a
single
family
home
under
that
ordinance
that
passed
about
a
year
and
something
ago,
essentially
they
already
have
the
ability
to
add
another
unit.
So
we
didn't
have
to
do
anything
with
that,
but,
like
all
these,
other
communities
have
had
it.
For
you
know
five
to
seven
years,
it
isn't
something
that
many
people
can
utilize
a
couple.
D
Other
factors
around
having
to
have
a
separate
water
source
and
things
like
that
and
not
be
able
to
tap
off
the
one
for
the
house,
but
also
access
to
funds
to
be
able
to
do
it,
and
so
several
communities
have
considered
doing
low
interest
loans
to
help
promote
families
creating
these
adus.
D
But
again,
once
money
comes
from
the
city
in
any
way,
even
if
it's
in
a
tip
in
a
form
of
a
loan,
then
we
can
make.
We
can
make
demands
for
lack
of
a
better
word
on
what
is
done
with
that
property
and
what
we
don't
want
is
folks
taking
the
low
interest
loans
and
then
you
know
creating
airbnbs
and
having
it
be,
which
airbnb
is
a
way
to
afford
a
home
right.
D
So
it's
not
a,
but
the
the
goal
of
this
loan
is
to
provide
affordable
housing,
not
necessarily
to
you
know,
to
make
folks
make
money
off
of
airbnbs,
so
there
would
be
some
sort
of
rule
in
there.
D
That
would
be
five
to
ten
years
that
they
have
to
rent
it
as
a
long-term
rental
versus,
and
then
you
know
they
can
do
what
they
want
to
do
with
it
after
that,
and
that
would
happen
via
a
resolution
that
would
be
aimed
at
the
budget
when
the
budget
is
being
made,
and
we
talked
about
raising
the
fine
for
demolition
and
demolishing
houses.
D
We
found
out
that,
while
in
most
places
it's
actually
said
to
be
ten
thousand,
there
was
a
something
ruled
in
2012
that
added
inflation
to
it,
so
it's
actually
up
to
19
000
right
now.
This
is
one
that
I
can
actually
say
doesn't
happen
a
whole
lot
as
a
real
estate
agent,
who
watches
every
house
in
the
neighborhood
when
they
go
up
and
down,
but
it
is
money
that
goes
directly
into
the
affordable
housing
fund.
D
So,
while
it's
not
again,
no
one
silver
bullet
is
going
to
fix
this,
which
is
why
we're
attacking
you
know
attempting
to
attack
it
from
multiple
different
angles:
angles
that
we've
seen
other
communities
do
with
success,
but
raising
that
fine.
So
that
might
happen
once
or
twice
a
year,
but
it
does
give
us
a
little
extra
in
the
affordable
housing
and,
again,
that's
just
an
alteration
to
the
current
current
existing
ordnance.
That
would
then
still
have
the
inflation
tacked
on
it.
D
That'll
continue
to
rise,
so
we
don't
have
to
make
the
adjustment
as
often
and
then
the
final
thing
that
came
up
was
presently
in
high
rises
if
their
whatever
the
affordable
housing
proportion
is
decided.
D
That
only
has
to
last
I
mean
it
only
has
to
be
affordable
housing
units
for
30
years,
and
the
recommendation
was
to
make
those
into
perpetuity
in
our
you
know
in
our
land
use
ordinance
around
that,
so
that
we
keep
building
on
our
affordable
housing
stock
as
opposed
to
some
rolling
off
because
it's
retired
at
the
30
years
and
some
more
rolling
on
and
we're
constantly
chasing
we're
not
really
building
up
a
stock
from
that
perspective,
so
I'm
gonna,
oops
yeah,
I'm
gonna
stop
sharing
oops
there
we
go,
I
see
hands,
oh
there's
devon's
hand.
I
D
D
I
see
I'm
going
all
the
way
back,
please
email
matt,
with
what
you
are
the
biggest
takeaways
from
the
survey.
Okay,
that
was
not
there
trisha.
I
see
the
piece
about
airbnb
and
not
owning
and
I'm
gonna
add
matt.
How
can
we
find
out.
I
In
in
in
part,
what
you
could
do
to
try
to
piece
that
together
sorry
to
jump
in
matt
is,
is
to
look
at
one,
as
you
said,
go
online
and
look
at
the
the
bnbs
that
are
listed
and
then
also
separately.
To
then
look
up.
Those
addresses
on.
A
A
I
Office
or
to
the
county
yeah
assessor's
office,
and
you
can
see
who
the
owner
is,
and
you
know
typically,
if
it's
in
you
know
almost
always,
if
it's
an
investment
property,
it's
under
some
llc
or
some
other.
You
know
business
type.
C
D
Figure
it
out,
I
mean-
and
I
think
so,
just
just
for
anybody
who
has
haven't
been
following
what
has
been
happening
happening
in
other
communities
atlanta
as
a
city
just
created
a
band
or
a
new
rule.
That
says
not
a
band
per
se,
but
you
can
only
have
two
airbnbs
in
atlanta.
D
So
again
they
will.
We
are
a
capitalist
country
like
what
we're
trying
to
prevent
is
the
uber
capitalism
right
and
so
a
person
can
invest
in
airbnb
their
own
house
and
they
can
have
one
other,
but
they
must
live
in
atlanta.
So
what
they're
saying
is
that
if
somebody's
gonna
make
money
off
of
people
visiting
atlanta,
it
better
be
people
with
my
own
community
versus
folks
dropping
and
buying
30
units
and
a
new?
D
There
is
a
required
license
for
the
for
having
an
airbnb
let's,
but
we
could
preeminently
do
that.
I
I
don't
know
we
know
the
details
behind
there's
a
problem,
but
I
think
that's
worth
looking
into
before.
We
chasing
the
problem
behind
from
behind
jane.
E
So
I
think
the
the
implication
is
that
we're,
even
though
we
have
a
a
license,
maybe
it's
a
licensing
or
registration
requirement
for
short-term
rentals,
so
it's
probably
10
years
old.
Now
I
don't
know
if
I
guess
we're
all
assuming
that
most
people
who
offer
these
short-term
rentals,
airbnb
or
vbro
whatever
it
is,
do
not
register
or
license
themselves
with
the
city
of
evanston.
E
E
I
We,
the
owner,
occupancy
yeah,
if
I
remember
correctly,
is
that
the
I
know
there's
a
bed
and
breakfast
ordinance
and
that
might
have.
I
know
that
was
coming
up
during
the
harley
or
not
harley
clark
around
major
pritzker.
E
D
That
was
a
good
question
trisha
and
I
want
to
thank
trisha
who's,
not
enough,
not
a
commissioner
who
participated
in
one
of
our
sub
groups.
I
just
want
to
see
a
shout
out
now,
as
I
are
thinking
about
it,
and
so
that
is
something
we
can
look
into
again
when
I
try
to
understand.
D
D
D
You
know
the
pricing
of
the
houses
if
it's
just
an
individual,
I
don't
know
that
we
have
any
program
right
now.
Correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
because
devon-
and
I
talked
about
this-
that
is
targeted
to
incentivizing
developers
to
build
affordable
housing.
I
Yeah,
I
think
I'm
reading
the
question
now,
but
I
think
the
question
here
is:
can
there
be
benefits
for
those
who
are
demolishing
homes
to
build,
affordable,
multi-units
and,
and
the
answer
to
that
is
lissandra?
Absolutely
yes,
there
could
be.
We
could,
you
know,
for
example,
reduce
or
eliminate
the
demolition
fee
and
say
hey.
If
you
are,
you
know,
if
you
promise,
or
you
know,
if
you
make
some,
you
know
you
make
a
claim
that
you're
building,
affordable
housing.
I
We
will
waive
these
fees
and
we
could
certainly
you
know,
put
in
some
clawbacks
and
some
penalties
if
they
were
to
not
agree
if
they're
not
to
follow
through
on
that.
But
yes,
we
could
provide
some
kind
of
benefit
or
incentive
and
we
could
go
beyond
just
eliminating
the
demolition
fee.
You
know,
there's
always
potential
for
tiff
dollars
and
other.
You
know
dollars
to
to
supplement
that.
D
Yeah-
and
I
think
we'd
have
to
I
mean
I
just
again
as
somebody
who
knows
the
cost
of
building,
you
know
thirty,
five
thousand
dollars
in
any.
C
D
For
the
you
know,
like
the
reduced
rent,
that
somebody
would
be
thinking
of
as
they
look
at
the
return
on
investment,
given
the
cost
and
so
we'd
have
to
you
know
like
we'd,
have
to
investigate
something
you
know
significantly
larger
than
that,
because
it
just
especially
today
I
mean
I
think
I
before
covert
and
right
now
and
rental
prices.
It's
outrageous,
and
so
I
mean
like
yeah.
E
I
have
found
an
ordinance
with
the
city
licenses
vacation
rentals,
which
are
rentals
for
less
than
30
days.
I
think
that
that's
the
short-term
rental
ordinance-
I
don't
have
time
to
read
through
it
right
now
during
the
meeting,
but
I'll
share
the
link.
E
G
D
Yeah,
all
right,
so
we'll
look
at
the
ownership
around
that.
So
thanks
for
bringing
that
up
so
devon,
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
chat
with
us
about,
I
mean
I
did
all
the
talking.
I
met
with
trisha
on
this
and
then
omar
and
devon,
so
trisha
umar
anybody
else
want
to
kind
of
comment.
Anything
I'll
add
to
anything.
I
said
on
this
before
we
move
on.
C
I
Yeah,
well,
one
thing
I'll
add
when
my
hand
was
up
earlier
was
to
say
I
think,
based
on
some
conversations
that
I've
had
with
at
least
one
of
my
colleagues.
I
think
particularly
on
the
which
to
me
seems
like
a
no-brainer,
the
anti-discrimination
ordinance.
I
D
Back
to
show
me
the
data,
and
we
did
have
a
conversation
about
really
any
data
around.
That
is
anecdotal
right,
like
whether
you
like
it
or
not.
D
It's
going
to
be,
you
know,
quote
from
a
a
resident
who
talks
about
their
experience
and
so
which,
as
I
as
as
we
literally
are
experiencing
from
our
last
meeting,
nobody
likes
anecdotal
information,
even
though
it's
a
live
experience
of
people
who
are
receiving
the
calls,
so
I
think
we
could
do
something
about
trying
to
get
some
of
those
darlene
I'll,
probably
chat
with
you
about
how
we
can
do
some
outreach
to
you
know
to
get
some
statements,
but
again,
there's
no
there's,
no
there's
nothing
in
the
city.
D
Collecting
data
on
that
so,
and
also,
I
also
always
feel
like
the
pushback
here-
is
when
the
effort
is
literally
not
harming
anybody.
D
This
constant
cry
for
data
yeah.
It's
part
of
why
culture,
but
anyway,
when
you
know
when,
when
the
harm
is
being
expressed,
and
literally
it's.
I
Yeah
now,
ironically,
us
passing,
this
would
actually
create
data
on
this.
That
would
allow
us
to
analyze
when
folks
survive.
You
know
when
folks
are
violating
that
would
create,
if
reported
a
ping
point
for
the
city
yeah
to
actually
collect
data,
so.
C
Katie,
I
just
want
to
say
real
quick.
I
missed
last
meeting,
but
so
I
want
to
just
say
a
note
of
appreciation
to
the
folks.
Who've
worked
on
this
over
the
last
month
and
and
carla
for
what
you
pulled
together.
That
was
just
great
to
see,
and
I
I
support
everything
on
that
list.
It
seems
very
needed,
so
thank
you
all
yeah.
D
Thanks
and
so
the
key
thing
is
here
that
we're
waiting
on
a,
I
think
we're
just
aligning
our
timing
on
this,
as,
as
you
noticed
each
one
of
these
there's
some
places
where
we're
just
adding
something
and
we'll
write
it
on
its
own
ordinance,
the
other
places
where
it
exists,
like
the
price
changes,
and
we
would
have
to
it's
just
an
amendment.
D
So
we
literally
have
like
a
paragraph
and
saying,
take
out
this
and
put
in
this
kind
of
thing
and
then
there's
some
others
like
the
loan
stuff
that
it
would
be.
D
You
know,
through
a
budget
resolution
which
is
different
and
so
devon
was
very
helpful
in
kind
of
trying
to
pinpoint
exactly
where
the
home
of
all
of
these
things.
So
we
understand
where
we
would
be
and
finding
the
exact
paragraph
we'd
be
working
with.
I
don't
know,
who's
up
devon
you're
on
city
council.
What
is
hap
like,
I
assume,
is
nobody's
voting
on
anything
until
the
second
ward
person
is
chosen.
Oh.
D
D
Yeah
yeah
yeah,
yes
lost
the
second
one,
but
you
know
like.
I
think
it's
also
only
fair
that
this
that
we're
seeing
most
impacts,
the
second
ward,
but
I
guess
that
was
my
that
was
my
thinking
originally
that
we're
trying
to
kind
of
get
this
together
to
ensure
that
we
have.
D
We
think
we
have
good
at
odds
talking
to
all
the
portions,
and
then
we
have
think
we
have
put
obs
by
the
time
the
the
last
of
the
older
folks
is
put
into
position
so
yeah,
so
yeah,
that's
kind
of
what
I
was
originally
targeting
targeting
targeting
time
wise
on
this.
D
E
So
if
these
ordinance
are
enacted,
the
ordinance
on
both
the
if
the
ordinances
are
enacted,
we're
going
to
want
to
know
the
existing
conditions
so
that
we
can
measure
impact
and
and
measurable
outcomes.
And
so
I
I
want
us
to
understand
the
data
obviously
of
the
existing
conditions,
but
also
use
it
for
what
comes
later
and
to
show
how
this
is
going
to
make
a
difference.
In
the
second
ward.
In
the
fourth
ward,.
D
D
Be
clear
that
yeah
I
mean
I
literally
used
to
teach
statistics
in
a
project
management
for
other
things
right,
so
I'm
not
an
anti-data
person.
Neither
am
I
like.
The
key
thing
here
is
that
in
something
that
is,
you
know
a
phone
call
or
we're
never
going
to
track.
I
literally
know
someone
right
now
who
is
building
a
house
where
they
call
like
they
address
the
person
they
call
them
and
talk
them
for,
like
nine
months
straight
kept
visiting
kept
visiting
until
they
bought
it
right
in
a
market
that
was
changing
so
rapidly.
D
I
know
they
bought
it
on
the
market
because
I
know
you
know
where
they
bought
it
for
it's
on
the
market
right.
We
will
never
be
able
to
track
that
information
right
information
right
right.
We
can't
go
back
into
that
house
in
its
new
million
dollar
multi.
You
know
million
dollar
state
and
figure
out
what
it
would
have
been
worth
in
september
of
whatever
so
there's
certain
things.
D
Given
the
effort
to
write
the
ordinance-
and
you
know
the
little
harm
that's
being
done
to
anybody
besides
the
bird
dog
and
the
developer-
that,
in
my
mind,
is
not
worth
running
down
data
when
you
know
like
or
spending
in
normal
time.
Getting
a
few.
You
know
anecdotes
from
the
folks
great
right
but
like
that
is.
E
But
it's
also
good
to
know
that
the
city
has
a
whole
lot
of
managers
who
have
access
to
this
data
and,
and
the
city
is
one
of
the
you
know
in
the
world
of
municipalities-
is
one
of
the
best
at
actually
developing
the
data
presenting
the
data
offering
the
data
and
it's
so
it's
there,
it's
there
for
us.
So
some
of
these
other
things
we
will
like
the
high.
D
D
Yeah
so
things
like
the
high-rise,
and
you
know
if
we
make
that
change,
we
should
then
have
things
not
dropping
off.
So
again,
yeah,
you
know
probably
only
be
stuff
going
forward,
but
we
would
see
that
instead
of
staying
somewhat
steady
or
slightly
going,
it
goes
up
consists
because
nothing's
dropping
off.
So
there
are
pieces
here
we
can
easily
find
data
for
I
you
know
I
just
it
running
down.
The
data
has
to
be
worth
the
benefit,
or
you
know
explaining
the
labor
and
in
this
case
that
first
one
is
very
labor.
D
E
D
I
would
love
to
get
us
in
a
place
there's
one
other
thing
we
were
going
to
discuss
matador
originally
have
it
on
the
schedule,
and
I
didn't
think
we'd
have
much
time
and
it
wouldn't
be
enough
time
to
kind
of
start
into
that,
but
we
do
need
to
wrap
up
our
equity
scorecard.
D
You
know
now
that
we
actually
have
a
city
manager.
Hopefully
you
know
we
can.
D
You
know,
introduce
that
at
the
the
s
to
the
council
and
the
city
manager
and
in
a
perfect
world
which
we
don't
live
in
a
perfect
world,
you
know
in
a
perfect
world,
these
groups
would
be
doing
it.
We
designed
it
the
way
we
designed
it
for
us
to
do
it,
because
the
reality
is
what
the
reality
is
about.
The
equity
knowledge
in
in
those
groups
right,
but
at
the
very
least,
I
think
in
our
in
the
best
best
of
cases
in
this
situation,
is
that
we
explain
to
both
those
groups.
What
this
is.
D
There
is
a
level
of
interest
and
they
say:
oh
there's,
this
upcoming
change
can
we,
and
so
there
are
actually
what's
the
word,
I'm
looking
for
assigning
us
something
because
in
my
mind,
if
somebody
asks
for
something
they're
more
likely
to
pay
attention
to,
we
just
go
on
our
own
time
and
just
do
it
and
we
turn
it
in
people.
E
Carlo
one
thing
and
I'm
sorry
just
yesterday
and
I'm
sorry,
I
haven't
reached
out
to
call
you
and
it's
probably
just
coincidental-
I
met
in
my
office
at
work,
a
guy
named
adam
slade,
who
used
to
be
at
the
metropolitan
planning
council,
he's
now
pursuing
his
phd
in
public
administration,
but
also
working
as
a
consultant
shared
with
me
that
he's
been
commissioned
to
work
with
the
city
of
evanston
on
their
equity
scorecard.
H
B
I
can
imagine
that
being
confusing,
so
he
is
working
on
the
public
engagement
plan
for
the
city.
You
all
may
remember
from
maybe
last
meeting
or
a
couple
meetings
back.
We
were
talking
about
with
the
environment
board
members
of
the
environment,.
G
B
About
kind
of
developing
a
public
engagement
plan
and
who
is
responsible
for
that
based
on
the
environmental
justice
resolution,
which
names
the
equity
and
empowerment
commission
as
kind
of
to
consult
so
adam,
is
working
on
the
participatory
or
not
participatory
budget.
I've
got
participatory
budgeting
on
my
brain
he's,
working
on
the
public
engagement
plan
and
process
for
the
city,
and
my
understanding
is
that
part
of
that
is
a
scoring
mechanism
to
score.
Basically
how
the
city
has
done
on
its
public
engagement
from
an
equity
lens.
E
B
D
And
if,
but,
if
I
understand
you
right,
matt,
that's
his
focus
is
no
matter
what
we're
doing
making
sure
we're
getting
the
public
engagement
in
in
that,
whether
it's
the
hiring,
whether
it's
whatever
changes,
we're
making
and
he
wants
to
make
sure
that's
done
with
an
equity
lens
which
is
different
than
applying
equity
lens
across
the
board
to
all
the
decisions
made.
D
But
I
I
would
be
interested
in
even
like
a
one-on-one
meeting
with
him
to
understand
what
his
model
looks
like
like
what
the
format
looks
like,
because
if
that's
already
something
that
the
city
is
paying
for
to
do,
and
we
can
sort
of
line
up
the
models
right,
the
data
is
different.
Then
there
is
some
learning
there,
because
the
city
of
people
using
it
in
the
city
already
using
and
used
to
that
format.
You
know
changing
the
format
is
not
a
big
deal,
even
if
we
have
the
the
content
already
made
for
our
scorecard.
B
Yeah
yeah
and
I
think
the
hope
is
that
everything
is
aligned.
Yeah
yeah.
D
All
right
with
12
minutes
left
left.
I
am
happy
to
give
folks
that
time
back
to
their
day,
I
am
actually
in
a
hotel
and
my
family
is
somewhere
outside
pacing
because
I
told
them
they
can't
be
in
here.
So
I'd
love
those
12
minutes
back
to
my
life.
Are
you
on
vacation
sort
of
kind
of
maybe.
D
All
right
anything
else
before
I
call
for,
I
would
just
kind
of
remind
her
back
to
the
first
thing
we
discussed
if
anyone
is
willing
to
take
three
or
four
well
meters
ago,
figure
out
what
the
tone
and
what
are
the
key
things
we're
trying
to
highlight
and
then
be
responsible
for
putting
the
responses
or
the
reality
of
the
responses
or
what
we're
supposed
to
take
from
it.
For
three
or
four
questions
into
a
paragraph
and
helping
create
that
report.
D
Please
let
me
know
if
we
break
it
up
in
small
chunks,
it
should
be.