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Description
The Housing & Community Development Committee discussed the 2023 Entitlement Grant Allocations by Goal based on estimated HOME, CDBG, ESG grants, approval of the DRAFT 2023 Action Plan, approval of 2023 funding of City of Evanston projects based on estimated CDBG grant amounts, and the Housing and Community Development Committee's 2023 meeting schedule. More information, agenda, and packets are available on the Committee's webpage: https://www.cityofevanston.org/government/housing-community-development-committee
B
A
Well
then,
I'm
gonna
call
the
December
13th
2022
meeting
of
the
Housing
and
Community
Development
Committee
to
order,
and
it
looks
like
we
have
a
quorum
and
Anna,
do
you
want
to
take
the
role?
Okay.
D
Chair
Ravel
here
Kathy
Feingold,
here
Hugo
Rodriguez.
C
A
Great
okay,
welcome
everybody,
and
now
would
someone
like
to
move
suspension
of
the
rules
to
allow
committee
members
to
and
staff
to
participate
remotely,
almost
second,
okay?
So
could
we
have
a
roll
call
on
that?
Please,
yes,.
C
A
We've
suspended
the
rules
and
then
could
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
of
our
November
15th
2022
meeting.
C
C
E
F
A
Great
okay,
thanks
everybody!
So
now,
if
there's
anyone
who
wants
to
give
public
comment
on
the
draft
2023
action
plan,
this
would
be
the
time
to
raise
your
hand.
B
A
B
Okay,
so
as
as
at
this
point,
it
sounds
like
we
have
no
one
looking
to
provide
public
comment
on
the
draft
action
plan,
so
I
suggest
that
we
close
the
public
comment
period,
okay
and
then
I
believe
that
we
can
move
on
to
regular
public
comment
and
Mr
Sutton
would
like
to
have
signed
up
to
provide
some
comment.
Mr
Sutton,
I'm
gonna
allow
you
so
that
you
can
in
a
meeting,
so
you
can
provide
your
comment.
E
I
have
an
opportunity
to
express
my
concern
over
your
committee
meeting
tonight
and
some
of
the
plans
that
we're
going
to
take
for
action
and
one
that
I'm
opposed
to
is
the
improvements
of
the
alleys
based
upon
the
fact
that
on
September
19th
of
this
year,
you
block
my
alley
off.
You
block
my
entrance
to
both
of
my
properties
with
cement
pipes
and
as
of
today,
we
still
haven't
received
any
statement
from
public
works
or
anybody
about
what
is
the
status
of
our
alley.
E
It
is
still
gravel,
it
is
still
flooding
and
before
you
go
on
with
these
2023
programs
of
improvement
of
valleys
I
think
it's
very
important
that
you
should
either
follow
through
on
the
ones
that
you
have
started,
or
at
least
contact.
The
members
of
the
community.
Half
of
my
block
is
putting
the
garbage
cans
in
the
back.
E
The
other
half
are
still
pulling
them
out
to
the
front
of
the
street
and
I'm
a
little
little
bit
concerned
that
in
this
particular
Community,
we
do
not
have
full
Communications
when
these
kinds
of
projects
are
going
on.
So
I
have
no
reason
to
approve
any
of
the
things
that
you're
going
to
talk
about
tonight
when
you
have
not
completed
the
projects
that
have
already
started.
Thank
you.
Yeah.
A
B
Currently,
at
this
point
there
is
no
one
else
in
the
audience
for
the
public,
so,
okay.
A
Great
and
council
member
Reed
has
joined
us,
so
the
main
focus
of
our
discussion
tonight
is
talking
about
the
2023
entitlement,
Grant
allocations
and
I,
and
we
have
two
different
motions.
One
is
to
approve
the
allocations
by
goal
based
on
the
estimated
2023,
cdbg,
home
and
ESG
grants,
and
then
we'll
have
another
motion
that
talks
specifically
about
specific
allocations
for
specific
programs
and
projects
in
2023..
A
So
first,
if
I
staff
will
correct
me
if
I
missed
bespoke,
but
that's
my
understanding,
okay,
so
so
first
I
guess.
Would
someone
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
recommend
the
2023
entitlement
Grant
allocations
by
goal
based
on
the
estimated
2023,
cdbg,
home
and
ESG
grants.
E
B
Sure
I
think
this
would
be
a
good
time
to
take
a
look
at
the
chart
that
was
in
the
packet
to
kind
of
discuss,
really
what
we
presented
in
a
little
bit
more
detail
and
provide
an
opportunity
for
us
to
discuss
this
so
I'm
gonna
look
to
share
my
screen.
B
You
can.
Let
me
know
that
you
have,
you
can
see
my
screen,
yep
yep.
We
see
it.
Okay,
thank
you
and
let
me
know
if
it's
a
little
too
small
if
you
want
to
see
things
differently,
so
the
big.
B
The
big
topic
of
this
agenda
item
essentially,
is
to
approve
allocation
by
percentage
for
each
goal
for
the
action
plan,
and
part
of
that
is
the
idea
that
if,
if
we're
able
to
approve
this
general
direction
of
allocation
by
percentage,
then
we
can
start,
we
have
a
foundation
and
we
can
start
spending
money
on
projects
as
January
1st,
which
means
there's
continuity
in
some
of
the
projects
we
have,
and
the
second
part
of
that
is
the
reason
why
we
have
very
some
specific
projects
to
approve
on.
The
second
agenda.
B
Allocating
by
goal
at
the
person
level
allows
us
a
little
bit
more
flexibility,
so
we're
oops
we're
asking
you
to
approve
a
general
direction,
but
there
is
flexibility
next
year
once
we
have
the
final
Grant
amount
once
there's,
maybe
certain
details
that
come
up
or
other
discussion
or
project
kind
of
move
things
around.
According
to
the
rules,
we're
not
stuck
at
31
exactly.
B
There
is
a
little
bit
of
leeway
that
doesn't
require
a
substantial
Amendment,
but
we're
putting
forward
this
proposal
as
far
as
how
to
allocate
the
money
and
we'd
like
to
discuss
with
you.
So
you
have
on
this
chart.
That's
the
same
chart
we
reviewed
last
year.
B
B
You
have
affordable
housing
goal,
the
homelessness
goal,
livable
communities,
Public,
Services,
Economic,
Development
and
administration.
Two
key
points
to
understand
is
Administration
is
usually
set
at
a
very
specific
percentage.
B
There's
a
maximum
we
can
spend,
and
usually
we
come
at
or
under
that
and
public
services
is
the
same.
It's
a
very
specific
percentage
that
can
be
set
and
we
cannot
spend
anymore.
So
usually
that's
how
those
two
are
are
set
in
at
this
at
this
point
in
the
process
that
leaves
affordable,
housing,
homelessness
and
livable
Community
goals
for
both
of
four
affordable
housing
this
year.
B
What
we're
suggesting
is
to
allocate
about
31
of
cdbg,
we
usually
split
half
of
home
between
affordable
housing
and
homelessness,
with
our
two
different
program
with
tea
bra
and
then
some
for
funding,
affordable
housing
through
home
for
cdbg
under
have
affordable
housing.
We
have
two
main
programs.
We
have
the
code
enforcement
program
in
eligible
areas
in
the
housing
rehab
program.
Now
both
are
applications
for
tonight
for
continuity
again,
and
you
may
be
surprised
to
see
that
the
housing
rehab
number
is
not
that
high.
B
The
reason
for
that
is
because
we
have
a
certain
amount
of
bandwidths
that
CPA
provides
us.
So
even
if
we
were
to
allocate
much
more
money,
there's
only
so
many
rehabs
they
can
do
within
the
year.
So
we
try
to
keep
that
in
mind
as
we
think
about
how
much
money
we're
allocating
and
then
the
second
reason
I
was
stated
in
a
memo.
Is
we
have
some
unexpended
money
from
pre
the
couple
to
previous
years,
because
we've
been
playing
catch
up
with
covet?
Essentially
so
there's
about
275
some
dollars,
that's
unexpended!
B
This
allocation
is
2023
only
so
it's
on
top
of
that.
So
that's
why
the
number
may
look
a
little
smaller
than
what
you
would
have
expected,
because
it's
just
the
current
here
allocation.
B
What
we're
suggesting
is
about
29
total
of
the
grants
and
about
687,
which
is
36
of
the
cdbg
total
grants
and
that
numbers
come
from
the
alley
Paving
now
the
alley
Paving
was
fairly
easy
because
you
had
already
voted
for
the
two
alleys
you
wanted
to
have
happen
earlier
this
August,
so
we
knew
that
that
number
could
be
used
here
and
then
there's
two
additional
projects
that
are
being
put
in
front
of
you
tonight,
which
is
the
sidewalk
app
and
fill
and
sidewalk
improvements,
which
is
similar.
B
It's
project
that
we
have
very
regularly
and
that
you
had
approved
last
year
as
well,
and
that
was
part
of
the
packet.
There
is
some
flexibility
here,
depending
on
what
you're
looking
to
do
tonight,
but
we
felt
like
this
was
a
good
foundation.
To
start
with,
we
could
move
a
little
bit
of
money
between
the
goals,
since
we
can
move
up
to
a
Mac
under
on
any
changes
under
20
of
a
goal
doesn't
require
a
substantial
Amendment.
So
that's
a
pretty
decent
amount
of
money.
B
If
we're
looking
at
20
of
680,
000
or
20
of
727
in
the
case
of
affordable
housing,
that
gives
us,
we
think
enough
leeway
to
be
able
to
kind
of
make
some
changes
if
at
any
point,
there's
something
that
changed
and
on
top
of
that,
we're
working
on
estimated
grants.
So
we
don't
know
we
may
get
slightly
higher
amounts.
We've
been
fairly
conservative
this
year,
following
the
trends
that
what
we've
seen
so
there's
there's
always
also
that
low
bucket
that
could
allow
us
to
do
other
things.
B
As
I
mentioned,
the
grants
this
year
are
looking.
If
you
look
at
the
total,
they
look
very
similar
to
previous
years,
cdbg,
specifically
we're
looking
at
1.864,
but
it's
actually
an
estimation
of
an
actual
entitlement,
Grant
of
only
1.65,
so
1
million
657
dollars.
B
What
gets
it
to
be
almost
on
par
with
last
year
is
the
fact
that
we
have
program
income,
and
if
you
remember
earlier
this
summer,
you
had
voted
to
prove
the
transfer
of
nsp2
program
income
into
cdbg
housing,
rehab,
and
so
this
is
counting
into
this
total
now
for
the
year.
B
So
that's
what
kind
of
gets
up
gets
us
back
to
a
normal,
a
level
that's
almost
on
par
with
last
year.
Had
we
not
had
that
it
would
have.
We
would
have
looked
a
lot
lower
than
past
years.
You
can
see
all
the
way
to
2020
here
and
we
were
almost
at
2
million
a
few
years
back.
B
So
that's
essentially
where
we're
at
so
you
can
see
the
percentage
on
the
right
and
you
can
see
the
dollar
amounts
that
that
we're
suggesting
for
those
goals.
C
Thank
you.
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
on
the
20
flexibility,
wife,
all
the
all.
The
different
funds
have
that
20
that's
a
significant
amount
of
money
and
who
has
that
that
Latitude
to
to
make
different
allocations
to
what
it's
approved
tonight
or
whenever
this
gets
approved.
That's
question
number
one
and
then
I
have
a
another
question
in
the
house.
In
rehab,
you
said
that
we
have
allocated
the
money
that
we
didn't
use
on
NSP
on
to
housing
rehab,
but
it
it
looks
like
this
year.
C
B
B
Is
one
of
the
trickier
part
of
making
track
of
the
in
this
process
so
as
far
as
you're
voting
tonight
to
allocate
allocation
by
goal
by
percentage
changes
that
would
be
made
to
this
would
be
discussed
with
your
committee.
B
So
essentially
this
is
not
changes.
First
of
all,
we
would
like
20
changes
would
be
because,
as
an
example
there's
a
specific
project,
let's
say
we
are
going
to
open
the
non-profit
facilities
facilities
Improvement
earlier
in
early
2023.,
let's
say:
there's
application
and
there's
a
fantastic
project.
That
is.
B
B
This
isn't
yeah
and
the
person
the
percentage,
the
goals
and
how
and
what
we're
allocating
is
yes,
the
committee
before
it
eventually
goes
to
city
council.
B
As
far
as
seeing
a
20
change
on
all
the
different
goals
would
be
very,
very
surprising
if,
first
of
all,
there's
a
few
that
really
can't
change
that
much,
but
we
would
have
to
have
complete
upheaval
in
all
of
our
planning.
For
that
to
happen,
it's
very
very
unlikely.
Unless
suddenly
major
projects
get
canceled
or
something
like
that
that
I
I
don't
believe
that
as
ever
happened,
and
if
we
needed
to
change
any
goal
by
20,
we
can
do
it.
It
just
requires
substantial
Amendment.
B
So
essentially
that
means
we
have
to
redraft
an
action
plan.
Reopen
public
comment.
Re
goes
through
the
entire
process,
get
it
approved
by
you.
Go
back
to
the
city
council,
it's
possible.
It's
not
advisable,
it's
possible
because
that's
an
admin
work.
We
spend
doing
that
that
we
can't
spend
on
working
on
actual
program
and
implementation
or
other
policy
items.
A
A
B
So
the
nsp2
program
income
is
considered,
it's
called
program
income
but
based
on
HUD
regulation
and
suggestion.
We've
we've
checked
back
with
them,
because
this
isn't
something
that
happens
very
frequently.
They've
mentioned
to
us
that
it's
really
going
to
come
in
and
it's
going
to
be
treated
as
entitlement
and
not
program
incomes.
So
we
there's
a
hundred
and
forty
seven
thousand
dollars
of
nsp2,
that's
for
housing,
rehab.
B
That
is
counted
here
and
it's
part.
If
you
look
at
the
application
for
the
housing
rehab,
it's
part
of
the
it's
part
of
the
budget,
it's
in
the
in
the
little
chart
with
the
budget
and
it's
counted
as
entitlement.
B
So
there
is
in
this
chart.
The
chart
includes
entitlement
and
program
income.
So
that's
where
the
housing
rehab
is
there?
The
other
thing,
as
well
as
a
program,
income
and
RL
in
entitlement
work
very
differently,
and
we
have
to
spend
entitlement
first,
I
believe
so
that
creates
a
challenge.
You
know
serious,
correcting
me.
H
H
They
said
we
could
not
make
revolving
loan
funds,
we
couldn't
just
put
it
into
the
revolving
Loan
Fund
that
was
kind
of
what
we
thought
we
might
be
able
to
do,
because
we
were
saying
it
was
for
that
purpose,
but
they
said
no,
you
can't
transfer
it
to
make
it
revolving
Loan
Fund,
even
though
it
was
returned
loans
from
NSP.
So
don't
ask
me
why
they
wouldn't
let
us
do
that,
but
they
wouldn't.
So
what
happens
is
when
you
have
program
income
that
isn't
revolving
loan?
H
A
Right:
okay,
Joanne
has
a
question
well.
B
Yes,
it
is
okay
because
it
is
included
in
the
1.864
at
the
bottom.
This
part
of
the
total
cdbg
it's
included
in
that
amount.
The.
J
I
B
B
I
believe
that
is
Fifth,
Ward
and
I
believe
it
is
not
a
cdbg
funded
alley.
I
believe
that
came
up
in
a
previous
committee
and
councilmember
burns
might
be
able
to
correct
me.
I'm
I
believe
it's
funded
through
a
different
source
with
is
this?
Maybe
the
water.
K
But
I
think
I've
said
this
before
the
alley
is
fully
funded
and
and
and
if
it
has
it
on,
if
it
has
it
already,
it
should
start
construction
soon,
but
that
is,
it
is
fully
funded
and
I've,
communicated
that
to
Carlos
and
I
know
he's
on
the
call
he
can.
He
can
reach
out
to
me
directly
and
I'll,
give
him
as
much
information
additional
information
as
he
needs.
K
Yeah
there
was
a
there
was
an
easement
issue
that
has
been
addressed
so
so
again.
If
the
question
was
just
when
are
they
going
to
start
construction
I
can
get
him
an
exact
or
a
you
know,
a
timeline
directly
from
staff
and
the
contractors
great.
C
Do
and
I
my
question
is
brief,
but
the
response
I
don't
know
how
brief
it'll
be,
but
it
is
the
lack
of
any
funds
allocated
to
the
economic
development
and
I
see
that
historically,
we
have
it's
like
a
little
small
bucket
or
a
cup,
not
quite
a
bucket
of
funds
that
go
into
that
and
I
I
wonder
why?
If
maybe
we
can
get
a
little
bit
of
education
on
that?
That's
it.
B
So
the
reason
we
didn't
allocate
money
to
Economic
Development
this
year
is
because
we
still
have
funds
that
have
not
been
spent
yet
from
a
previous
year
and
part
of
the
reason
why
it's
not
spent
necessarily
is
because
there
are
a
lot
of
restrictions
that
come
with
cdbg
funding,
especially
for
economic
development.
B
So
a
lot
of
the
time.
Some
of
the
projects
that
come
up
for
economic
development
are
not
necessarily
eligible
and
there's
more
flexible
source
of
funding
that
are
usually
available
for
those
projects
that
are
preferred.
B
So
we
didn't
want
to
keep
allocating
money
until
we
have
actually
used
up
the
money.
That's
from
previous
year
is.
L
C
Those
are
available
for
eligible
programs
or
projects.
B
There's
about
75
000,
that's
allocated
I
believe
from
previous
here.
We
also
part
of
this.
Is
we
also
had
quite
a
bit
of
cdbgcv
that
was
put
forth
for
economic
development
in
previous
years
as
well,
which
is
also
why
it's
delayed
the
use
of
cdbg
in
previous
years.
H
Do
work
closely
with
the
economic
development
staff
and
keep
them
apprised
of
available
funds
too.
So
a
lot
of
it
as
Miriam
said,
is,
for
example,
even
though
in
some
areas
we
may
be
able
to
use
cdbg
for
facade
Improvement,
then
you
run
into
the
problem
of
having
them
use,
pay,
Davis,
bacon,
prevailing
wages,
and
that
kills
it
on
that.
So
there
are
certain
again
cases
where
it
just
doesn't
work.
B
Okay
and
I,
just
I
I,
don't
share
with
I,
don't
know
if
Lara
Biggs
has
raised
her
hand
and
I
think
she
may
have
some
comment
about
the
alley.
So
whenever,
in
the
conversation
that
works
just
wanted
to,
let
you
know.
A
Okay,
so.
A
So
because
we
could
go
ahead
and
and
wrap
up
this
discussion
or
vote
on
the
allocation
by
goal,
which
is
what
we've
been
talking
about
and
then
go
on
to
the
next
motion,
which
is
looking
specifically
at
the
various
projects
and
programs
being
that
we're
going
to
be
allocating
money
to
and
then
yeah
okay.
So
why
don't
so?
We've
had
that
motion
that
we
recommend
the
2023
entitlement
Grant
allocations
by
goal
based
on
the
estimated
2023,
cdbg,
home
and
ESG
grants,
and
so
could
we
have
a
roll
call
on
that
motion.
Please.
G
A
Great
okay,
thanks
everybody
so
now
just
to
get
us
started
on
the
next
part
of
the
discussion.
Could
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
2023
cdbg
funding
for
City
of
Evanston
programs
and
projects.
F
G
A
Okay,
second,
okay,
so
I
know
so
we
have
Laura
to
talk
about
some
of
these
projects.
Where
should
we
get.
B
Or
do
we
have
yeah,
we,
we
do
have
Rob
Anthony
from
cepa.
That
was
going
to
start
around
to.
B
I
believe
Lara
I
believe
that
you
maybe
had
some.
If
you
have
some
feedback,
you
want
to
provide
around
the
alley
that
Mr
Sutton
was
talking
about
Phil.
Please
feel
free
to
do.
L
A
Yeah:
okay:
let's
we'll
save
all
the
alley
discussion
for
in
a
few
minutes,
Rob
Anthony
from
CPA
to
talk
about
the
housing
rehab
program
that
and
the
idea
is
that
we
would
be
allocating
434
550
towards
the
housing
rehab
at
this
point.
So
Rob
welcome.
M
As
Marion
mentioned,
the
owner
occupied
rehab
program
has
been
pretty
slow
the
past
two
years
in
2021.
It
was
really
because
of
covid
and
and
catching
up
with
covid,
because
at
that
time
we
weren't
sending
people
into
occupied
homes
to
do
rehabs,
particularly
because
a
lot
of
the
clients,
the
residents
through
the
program,
are
seniors
and
people
with
disabilities
or
other
health
issues.
M
So
then,
in
this
year
we
started
getting
back
into
our
regular
routine
of
doing
more
and
then
the
city
had
asked
us
to
manage
the
rehabs
for
the
reparations
program,
and
so
we
did
12
reparations
rehab
projects
this
year,
which
really
took
up
a
lot
of
our
time.
And
frankly,
we
couldn't
do
as
many
of
the
the
cdbg
funded
owner-occupied
rehab,
but
we,
those
are
done
for
the
most
part,
I,
think
nine
of
the
12
are
done
and
the
other
three
are
wrapping
up
very
soon.
M
So
I
think
we're
we're
caught
up
and
on
track
to
be
able
to
do
at
least
nine
homes
next
year.
M
In
addition
to
the
funds
that
the
city
allocates,
there
is
there's
funding
available
through
the
Illinois
Housing
Development
Authority,
for
us
to
do
some
home
accessibility
projects
and
also
to
do
some
other
home
repair
and
roof
only
projects
as
well.
The
roof
only
projects
is
a
new
funding
program
for
us
next
year.
M
So
one
of
the
challenges
now
with
using
federal
dollars
is
sometimes
people
just
need
one
thing:
they
want
a
furnace
or
they
want
a
roof.
But
if
we
put
a
dollar
of
federal
funding
into
a
house,
we
need
to
make
sure
it
meets
how's
it
going
quality
standards.
It
brings
things
up
to
code,
so
you
know
a
lot
of
times.
People
don't
want
a
full
rehab
of
their
home,
and
so
this
will
allow
us
to
do
just
a
roof
only
if
that's
what
they're
looking
for
so
we're
we're
excited
about
that.
M
The
Ida
funded
program
is
forgivable,
so
those
dollars
are
forgiven,
160th
every
month,
so
over
a
five-year
period,
they're
completely
forgiven,
whereas
the
city's
funded
program
is
there's
no
monthly
payment,
but
it
is
repayable
at
the
time
of
sale.
It
just
sort
of
sits
out
there
until
there's
a
transfer
of
the
property
and
I
think.
That's
all
I
really
had
but
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
Great
thanks
committee,
yeah
council
member
Burns.
K
Rob
before
you
went
into
the
the
the
kind
of
deferred
the
repayable
Deferred
loan,
what
what
was
the
other
thing
you
described?
I
missed
it.
M
So,
under
this
new
Ida
program,
we
can
do
a
roof
only
so
with
other
federally
funded
rehab
programs.
If
someone
needs
a
roof,
but
we
go
in,
we
find
lead
or
we
find
mold
or
there's
radon
or
other
things
that
we
have
to
take
care
of.
We
need
to
add
that
to
the
scope
of
the
rehab
project
and
with
a
roof
only
project,
we
can
limit
the
scope
to
only
doing
the
roof
and
not
having
to
do
a
larger
rehab
project
if
the
homeowner
doesn't
want
to.
K
And
in
the
packet
it
talks
about,
you
know
having
a
future
discussion
about
about
a
forgivable
loan
program.
In
addition,
I
guess.
In
addition,
the
way
it's
being
proposed
now,
in
addition
to
the
repairable,
deferred
loan,
I
guess
this
is
a
question
for
staff
is.
Is
that
and
it
basically
said
Rob
that
you
would
hear
back
from
Ida
at
the
end
of
December?
Have
you
already
heard
back,
and
this
is
what
the
program?
K
This
is
what
what
you
heard
back,
that
you
can
use
this
money
for
for
roof
work
for
roof
repair.
M
K
Then
it's
going
back
to
the
roof
repairs.
The
money
we
have
now
from
Ida
is
that
is
that
only
if
one
of
those
you
know
you
mentioned
right
on
and
something
to
lay
it
or
something
else
is
that
only
if
that's
found
in
the
roof
or
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
how
that
connects
with
the
roof,
or
is
that
no.
M
So
we're
under
our
current
program,
we're
required,
regardless
of
what
kind
of
work
is
being
done.
We're
required
to
do
a
bold
inspection,
lead-based
paint,
inspection,
radon
inspection,
so
you
know,
even
if
someone
wants,
you
know,
siding
done
on
the
outside
of
their
home
and
that's
all
that
they
need
were
required
to
do
it-
a
lead,
inspection
inside
and
radon
inside
and
look
at
the
whole
house,
whereas
with
the
roof
only
option,
we
won't
have
to
do
that.
K
I
see
and
then
like
I
guess,
based
on
the
how
many,
when
people
apply
for
this
program,
are
they
going
do
they
ever
go
directly
to
arrive
to
sipa
when
they
apply
for
the
forgivable
or
for
the
I
guess
for
both
of
these
programs?
Are
they
going
through
Staff,
first
and
then
City
staff
and
then
they're
referring
to
sibo
yeah.
M
That's
a
really
good
question:
we
when
we
started
working
with
the
city
to
help
administer
the
program,
we
didn't
want
there
to
be
confusion
and
multiple
wait
lists,
and
so
we
said
that
people
should
continue
to
apply
through
the
city,
the
city
sort
of
manages
that
list
and
sends
projects
to
us
that
the
one
exception
to
that
is
that
we
and
I
didn't
even
talk
with
Sarah
about
this.
Yet.
M
But
we
do
have
home
accessibility
program
dollars
that
need
to
be
expended
by
July
of
next
year,
and
we
in
in
order
to
get
those
projects
closed
by
July.
We
really
need
to
start
them
no
later
than
about
February,
and
so
we
are
doing
some
marketing
right
now,
just
around
the
home
accessibility
program,
just
to
get
the
word
out
as
much
as
possible
in
Lake
County
and
in
Evanston,
so
that
we
get
those
applications
in
to
make
sure
we
use
all
those
dollars
before
the
grant
expires.
But.
M
B
Yeah
yeah
right
and
Rob
weekend,
regroup,
2C
well,
I
can
with
the
out.
If
there's
anything,
we
can
do
on
our
side.
Great.
M
K
And
it's
just
we're
on
this
point
that
I
have
two
more
quick
questions.
What
are
what
are
some
of
those
improvements,
home,
accessibility,
improvements.
M
Yeah,
so
we
can
do
lifts
ramps,
accessible,
doorways,
accessible
kitchens,
accessible
baths,
and
we
can
actually
do
other
work
too.
That's
not
accessibility
related
as
long
as
at
least
50
percent
of
the
work
is
accessibility
related.
So
in
other
words
we
can
spend.
You
know
ten
thousand
dollars
on
an
accessible
kitchen,
but
then
also
do
another.
Ten
thousand
dollars
of
electrical
work
or
Plumbing
work
or
other
rehab
needs
that
the
homeowner
or
the
tenant
has
as
long
as
the
half
of
it
is
accessibility
related.
Oh.
K
H
B
I
don't
have
that,
but
we
also
have
to
keep
in
mind
that
some
of
the
situation
and
restriction
makes
a
difference
in
how
many
people
we
have
on
the
list
because
they
may
be
on
the
list.
But
they
may
not
totally
be
eligible
or
not
interested
anymore.
So,
but
we
can
probably
get
that
information
for
the
committee
and.
K
H
Then
this
works
with
Alicia
at
sipa
and
and
they
actually
kind
of
parse
out
which
projects
get
going
and
and
also
handle
the
sort
of
like
what
Rob
was
talking
about
like
oh,
we
got
to
get
the
accessibility
money
used
first,
so
that
ends
up
sometimes
leading
to
priorities.
H
You
know
just
based
on
what
you
have
to
spend,
so
you
don't
lose
it.
You
prioritize
those
projects,
so
it
doesn't
get
returned
to
Ida
because
we
haven't
spent
it
within
a
specific
time.
K
Yeah,
so
the
last
thing
I'll
say
is
that
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
for
this
committee
to
follow
the
discussion
closely
that
we're
having
at
the
reparations
committee,
because
I
think
there's
some
overlap.
We
we
also
having
kind
of
capacity
challenges
and
awarding
the
reparations
benefits.
In
particular.
The
ones
where
Home
Improvement
is
is
is
is
selected
for
the
same
reasons.
K
I
think
you
know
Robin
and
Sarah
think
it
was
Sarah
talked
about
earlier,
and
so
we
are
working
on
different
solutions,
some
of
which
would
involve
you
know,
hiring
out
Contracting
with
another
organization.
Potentially
and
again,
none
of
this
has
been
approved.
Some
of
it
has
been
discussed
so
I'm,
not
saying
that
any
of
this
will
happen.
K
I'm
just
saying
what
is
a
part
of
what's
been
a
part
of
the
discussion,
but
potentially
maybe
even
hiring
a
staff
person,
as
well
as
some
other
solutions
that
we're
coming
up
with
and
again
I.
Think,
there's
a
lot
of
overlap
with
that
in
this,
because
if
there
are,
if
we
have
the
funding-
and
this
is
the
same
way,
I
feel
about
reparations,
we
should
be
trying
to.
K
We
need
to
find
a
way
to
build
the
capacity
to
to
to
issue
the
funding
to
get
the
project
management
started,
to
get
the
improvements
going
and
again.
This
is
not
a
a
current
staff
issue.
It's
just
how
do
we
build
that
capacity
to
do
more
work?
Now,
that's
all
chair!
Thank
you.
H
One
of
the
interesting
things
that
we
discussed
at
least
Rob
and
I
discussed,
but
then
we
figured
it
doesn't
really.
Work
is
some
of
the
reparations
one
of
the
things
that
you
can
do
with
cdbt
is
we
can
pay
the
administrative
costs
out
of
cdbg
and
then
have
a
different
funding
source
for
the
actual
work,
but
the
challenge
we
have
there
is.
We
did
not
recommend
that,
because
to
do
that
with
reparations,
we
would
have
to
income
qualify
the
people
for
that
cdb
and
that
just
did
not
fit
with
the
program
of
qualifying.
H
I
mean
it
just
it's
just
not.
That
is
you
know
we
have
to.
We
could
only
use
cdbg
for
households
with
incomes
under
80
percent
of
the
year,
I
mean
and,
and
that
I
think
would
be
a
huge
problem
with
the
reparations.
So
we
we
looked
at
that,
but
we
couldn't
literally
do
it.
K
Yeah
I
think
there's
a
way
to
build
capacity
without
with
with
not
with
cdb
G
dollars,
but
other
dollars
that
could
go
towards
building
more
capacity,
not
only
for
reparations
but
also
for
these
programs.
But
but
again
we
could
talk
about
that.
You
know
offline
and
future
discussions.
I
just
wanted
to
flag
it,
because
I.
K
H
I
just
wanted
to
remind
everybody
that
once
Rob
hears
about
the
you
know,
it'll
probably
be
in
January
I.
Hope
that
we'll
hear
about
the
amount
of
of
whether
you
get
this
additional
because
we
did
say
we
wanted
to
Pilot
moving
our
cdbg
Grant
I
mean
work
to
forgivable
loans
on
the
same
10-year
burn
off
that
the
sepa
larger
ones.
You
know
they
have
forty
thousand
dollar
ones
funded
through
Ida,
because
we've
talked
about
the
importance
of
leaving
equip
more
equity
for
our
lower
income
families
to
pass
on.
H
C
Sorry
about
that
I
forget
that
I
don't
want
my
dog
to
be
barking
at
all
of
you
at
the
same
time
as
it
barks
to
me
a
couple
of
questions,
one,
the
first
one
is
a
clarification:
Rob
I
the
roof.
Only
is
it
really
only
roofs
or
are
there
any
other
improvements
or
repairs
that
can
be
made
to
a
home
under
that
category
of
roof,
only
meaning,
no
other
implications
other
than
a
particular
work,
or
maybe
it
is
actually
just
roof.
Only
yeah.
M
It's
it's
literally,
a
category
of
Ida's
rehab,
that's
restricted
to
only
doing
roofs,
it
could
be,
you
know
shingles
and
the
decking
if
you
need
to
replace
decking,
but
it
has
to
be
specifically
related
to
the
roof.
Only
okay.
C
C
I
know
that
Ida
and
many
of
their
programs
they
do
across
the
board
an
allocation
of
funds
and
whoever
comes
in
and
use
them
uses
the
funds
and
that's
that's
the
end
of
those
funds
for
this
case
of
both
the
accessibility,
the
roof
only
and
and
other
funds
that
we're
talking
here
are
those
allocated
to
the
City
of
Evanston
specifically
or
we're
fighting
with
everybody
who
who
it's
eligible
to
these
funds,
to
use
them.
M
It's
not
specifically
to
Evanston
it's
a
grant
to
sipa
that
sipa
can
use
in
Lake,
County
or
Evanston,
and
so
the
total
Grant.
We
expect
to
be
around
400
and
30
or
440
000
per
t
for
two
years,
and
so
what
we
estimated
in
this
budget
was
the
amount
that
we
anticipated
to
spend
in
Evanston
next
year
between
our
current
grants
and
the
new
grants.
A
Okay
also
remember
oh
Sarah,.
H
I
wanted
to
raise
one
other
quick
question
with
Rob,
because
this
just
occurred
to
me.
We
have
this
solar
Grant
to
put
solar
on
for
lower
income
residents,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
know
is
that
new
roofs
are
a
good
thing
and
a
good
sign
of
ability
to
handle
solar.
So
it
occurred
to
me
that
as
we
get
that
worked
out
and
Kara
is
trying
to
work
it
out,
because
all
of
these
earmark
grants
then
get
assigned
to
whatever
federal
agencies
closest
to
what
would
normally
deal
with
that.
H
So
it's
the
EPA
I
think
that
Cara
is
working
with
on
that,
but
it
would
be
interesting
if
we
would
have
the
opportunity
to
look
at
possibly
as
we
get
into
this
eligibility
for
giving
them
solar
as
well,
and
that
might
require
an
electrical
upgrade
and
I
guess.
The
question
is:
is
there
any
way
we
could
swing
that
or
maybe
that's
just
something
to
put
an
idea
out
there
and
we
can
work
work
on
it
later.
Yeah.
M
I
think
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
coordinate
that
I.
I
think
that
if
we
had
to
do
an
electrical
upgrade,
it
would
probably
fall
into
the
I'd
owner
occupied
rehab
category
as
opposed
to
the
roof
only
category.
M
But
it
would
make
a
lot
of
sense
to
try
to
coordinate
that
and
and
yeah
if
you're
doing
a
new
roof,
then
let's
try
to
get
some
solar
on
it
too,
and.
H
G
Yeah
one
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
Hugo
for
the
question
about
the
roof
only
because
I
was
actually
also
under
the
same
impression
that
there
was
just
kind
of
a
catch-alls
term
of
art
for
smaller
projects.
G
So
thanks
for
that
clarification,
but
I
wanted
to
ask
Mr
Anthony
about
when
you
all,
you
know,
are
doing
the
roof
only
projects
or
other
or
folks
being
you
know,
given
you
know,
materials
are
an
education
about
the
the
harms
of
lead
and
radon
or
folks
informed
about
what
they're
for
foregoing
and
and
then
you
know,
on
top
of
that,
why
might
someone
forego
that
kind
of
testing
and-
and
is
there
not
funding
available
to
remediate
those
issues.
M
Yeah
yeah
great
questions,
so,
yes,
absolutely
people
are
informed.
They
get
the
lead
Flyers,
they
get
the
radon
Flyers.
We
talk
to
them
about
what
those
risks
are.
So
that's
definitely
communicated
in
terms
of
why
someone
might
not
want
to
do
that.
The
reasons
very
oftentimes.
What
we
see
is
so
with
a
deferred
program
like
the
City
of
Evanston.
M
Has
there
they
have
a
lien
put
on
their
house
for
the
amount
of
the
loan,
and
so
someone
might
come
in
and
say:
I
only
want
a
furnace,
that's
going
to
cost
me
four
thousand
dollars
to
replace
and
only
have
a
four
thousand
dollar
lien
on
my
house.
I.
Don't
want
to
do
all
this
other
work,
that's
gonna,
yeah,
you're,
still,
gonna
pay
for
it.
You're
gonna
do
forty
thousand
dollars
of
rehab
on
my
home,
but
now
there's
gonna
be
a
forty
thousand
dollar
lien
on
my
home.
M
If
it's
not
forgiven,
even
under
the
forgivable
program,
some
people
do
not
want
those
liens
on
their
house
I.
You
know
I
completely
understand
when
they're
not
forgivable.
In
most
cases,
if
they're
forgivable
I
think
it
makes
a
whole
lot
of
sense
to
go
ahead
and
get
those
improvements
done,
particularly
if
it's
a
five-year
forgivable
period,
That's
prorated
every
month,
because
typically
the
increase
in
value
resale
value
of
your
home
is
going
to
more
than
compensate
for
any
outstanding
lien
that
you
have
to
pay
back,
but
that
that's
a
big
reason.
M
People
are
concerned
about
the
liens
other
times.
People
just
don't
want
to
deal
with
the
impact
of
having
someone
commit
and
have
to
remediate
all
the
lead
and
the
dust
and
the
work
that's
involved
and
the
time
and
it's
intrusive,
and
they
just
don't
want
to
have
to
extend
their
project.
That
long
and
be
that
intrusive
other
times.
People
have.
M
You
know
they
have
other
things.
They
want
to
get
done
that
are
bumping
up
against
the
limit
of
the
rehab
project,
and
so
they
they
don't
have
money
available
that
they
want
to
spend
on
lead
and
radon,
because
they're
trying
to
upgrade
their
electrical
or
their
Plumbing
or
deal
with
a
you
know
a
flooding
issue
in
their
basement
or
something
like
that
and
that's
a
higher
priority
for
them.
G
You
and
I
just
want
to
just
flag
one
one
more
thing
and
if
you
have
a
response
for
it,
fine
or
if,
if
it's
just
a
flag,
that's
also
fine
but
I'm
I'm
curious
about
how
you
all
are
training
your
staff
on
the
ground
or
what
you
all
are
doing
to
make
sure
that
you
know,
because
I
can
imagine
very
well-intentioned
people.
G
You
know
either
one
just
kind
of
handing
over
the
form
as
the
the
information
about
the
you
know,
lead
radon
and
all
of
that
handing
it
over
just
as
a
formality
and
not
really
going
into
detail
about
it
or
again,
well-intentioned
people
saying
hey.
G
G
Yeah
I
just
want
to.
You
know,
make
sure
that
you
know
because
I
I
would
think
that
and
then
also
on
our
end,
I
guess
staff.
We
should
examine
how
we
can
make
this
program
more
inviting
to
folks,
because
I
just
think,
there's
no
reason
that
someone
should
give
up
the
opportunity
to
to
have
those
harmful
compounds,
remediated
and
removed
from
their
house.
So
yeah
and.
G
You
guys
keep
track
of
metrics,
I'd
love
to
you,
know,
see
you
know,
who's
refusing
it
and
maybe
why
are
they
refusing
it?
So
just
we
can
get
that
feedback
and
use
that
you
know
to
craft
something
better.
M
Absolutely
and
if
any
of
you
have
met
our
home
inspector
Aiden,
who
handles
the
evidence
and
projects,
He,
For,
Better
or
Worse
loves
to
talk,
and
so
he
will
go
into
great
depth
about
radon
and
mold
and
lead
and
all
the
the
ways
that
it's
bad
for
you
and
he
he
loves
to
talk
with
people
about
that
stuff.
A
Okay
Hugo
another
question:
another.
C
Question
sorry
about
that.
What
was
my
question?
Oh
when
say
somebody
goes
through
the
process
and
wants
to
do
the
abatement
of
lead
or
or
radar
in
their
properties.
Radon
is
a
lot
easier
than
to
to
deal
with
than
with
asbestos
or
lead
in
the
piping
and
other
places
that
could
be
also
LED
presence
in
the
house.
C
Do
they
are
they
offer
housing
in
the
meantime,
because
it
could
be
incredibly
intrusive
and
costly
and
I
totally
understand
what
you
were
saying
Rob
in
regards
to
probably
the
funds
that
they
were
thinking
of
are
going
to
be
depleted
just
by
the
abatement
project,
and
then
they
have
nothing
left
for
their
flooding
basement.
So
I
totally
understand
that.
But
my
question
is
in
regards
to:
are
there
temporary
housing
part
of
the
part
of
the
formula
for
this.
M
Yeah,
temporary
relocation
is
an
eligible
at
expense.
Fortunately
we
don't
have
to
do
it
very
often.
Usually
we
can,
you
know,
segregate
part
of
the
house,
and
people
can
stay
in
that
house
and
there's
the
you
know:
plastic
Shields
that
come
down
and
get
taped
to
the
floor
and
all
that
type
of
thing,
but
but
we
have
had
to
temporarily
relocate
people
for
some
projects,
but
most
of
the
time
we
don't
need
to.
F
Yeah,
thank
you
following
up
on
council
member
Reed's
question
I'm
just
thinking
about
why
someone
would
turn
this
down
and
I'm
wondering
if
you
have
any
sense
of
whether
trust
sort
of
is
a
factor
and
if
so-
and
this
may
be
presumptuous
on
my
part,
in
which
case
I
completely
apologize
in
advance.
F
But
if
you
think
trust
is
a
factor
I'd
be
curious
to
know
you
don't
have
to
answer
now
but
like
if
the
demographics
of
the
people
of
the
staff
interfacing
with
eligible
homeowners,
match
the
demographics
of
the
homeowners
and,
if
not,
if
that's
something
we
could
consider
just
because
there's
a
lot
of
research,
I
think,
especially
if
you're
talking
about
a
population,
that's
been
historically
disenfranchised
or
discriminated
against,
I
can
see
not
wanting
a
lien
on
your
property.
If
you.
F
To
get
lifted,
so
that's
just
something:
I
would
be
curious
to
like
think
a
little
bit
more
about
if
we
have
the
right
people
communicating
these
messages
to
eligible
homeowners.
F
H
Yeah
one
one
note
on
on,
especially
with
seniors:
we
haven't
done
this
recently
because
we
haven't
been
taking
on
a
whole
lot
of
new.
You
know,
but
one
of
the
things
we've
done
successfully
in
the
past
and
and
will
do
if
we
run
into
some
of
those
problems.
Is
we
go
to
our
senior
services
staff
and
see
if
any
of
them
already
have
a
relationship
with
people?
H
H
We
try
to
use
the
relationships
that
other
staff
may
have
built
up
with
people
to
to
help.
In
those
cases,
yeah.
F
And
maybe
maybe
something
like
this
already
exists,
but
if
not
I
don't
know,
if
there's
an
opportunity,
because
obviously
there's
technical
expertise
that
I'm
sure
Rob
your
staff
is
taking
a
lot
of
time
to
develop
right
and
so
no
disrespect
to
them
at
all.
Maybe
there's
some
Community
ambassadors
or
something
like
that.
C
A
Good
point:
yeah:
okay:
well,
let's
shift
gears
and
turn
to
Laura
to
talk
about
alley,
improvements
and
sidewalks
and
those
kinds
of
things
I.
B
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt
uh-oh
I
believe
Angel
is
first
because
she
also
only
has
one
item
and
Lara's
team
is
four.
A
I
So
you
guys
want
a
little
history
here,
so
we
we
are
looking
to
increase
our
cdbg
funding
for
2023.,
because,
first
of
all,
we
added
a
staff
member
last
year,
so
we're
going
to
have
additional
expenses
moving
forward
with
the
new
staff
member
and
all
that
they
would
bring
to
the
team
and
the
inspections,
but
also
the
fact
that,
as
we
continue
to
discuss
rental
licensing
versus
rental
registration
and
we
move
towards
making
improvements
in
our
software,
that
funding
is
going
to
be
important
to
keep
Property
Standards
and
code
enforcement
moving
forward
to
be
able
to
meet
the
needs
as
we
move
those
programs
hopefully
into
fruition.
I
So
we
are
asking
for
an
increase
in
the
funding
this
year
to
help
facilitate
some
of
those
additional
aspects
of
our
our
jobs.
A
And
so
Angel
the
the
funding
is,
is
really
is
helping
pay
for
the
new,
the
additional
inspector
or.
I
The
the
additional
funding
yes
would
help
to
cover
some
of
the
expenses
of
the
additional
inspector
in
terms
of
their
salary
and
everything
that
that
entails.
With
you
know,
some
funding
for
equipment
or
or
the
offset
for
some
of
the
vehicle
services
that
they
use
and
then
also
to
look
to
take
some
of
that
money
and
be
able
to
use
it.
To
look
to
the
improvements
that
we're
going
to
need
for
our
software.
As
we.
H
Expand
our
programming
just
a
note
on
how
that
is
done.
This
is
the
allocable.
The
allocation
method
Allowed
by
Hud
is
our.
When
our
inspectors
are
working
on
cases,
either
doing
inspections
or
doing
paperwork
for
cases
that
are
within
our
cdbg
Target
area.
H
H
So
that's
the
that's
the
most
common
method
of
cost
allocation
that
is
allowed
by
the
federal
government
for
a
program
like
this
and
what
it
does
is
it
doesn't
necessarily
I
mean
we
have
a
lot
of
rental
in
our
Target
area
and
it
is
for
our
lower
income
residents
that
it's
very
important
to
have
routine
inspections,
and
we
really
want
to.
But
it's
again
our
goal
is
to
move
to
a
inspection
schedule
based
on
what
happened
in
that
inspection,
so
it
doesn't
mean
we're
still.
H
We
still
want
to
make
our
inspections
how
the
frequency
of
inspections
tied
to
the
outcome
of
the
inspection,
so
it
doesn't
necessarily
mean
we're
going
to
be
inspecting
more
frequently
in
the
cdbg
Target
area.
At
one
point,
our
our
only
way
of
doing
it
was
we
had
a
with
HUD.
H
We
said
that
our
experience,
if
we
had
greater
number
of
code
violations
and
things
like
that
in
the
cdbg
Target
area
and
had
an
automatic
schedule
that
was
more
frequent
in
the
cdbg
Target
area,
and
that
is
not
what
we
that's
part
of
the
whole
rental
monitoring.
You
know
the
whole
property
maintenance
program
that
we're
moving
toward
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
it
clear
that
it
isn't
to
it's
not
like
we're
just
adding
an
inspector
only
in
the
cdbg
Target
area.
It
gives
us
more
bandwidth
for
all
inspections
right.
A
C
Kathy
had
her
hand
raised
and
I
I
talk
a
lot
so
I.
If
Kathy
still
has
a
question
I'll
definitely.
C
I
applies
so
I
still
have
my
question
and
my
question
is:
could
we
get
a
little
bit
more
distribution
of
this
four
hundred
thousand
dollars,
if
you
will?
So
if,
if
our
committee
is,
is
in
charge
of
overseeing
these
and
improving
this
fund,
so
we
have
something
a
little
bit
more
concrete
of
what
you're
talking
already,
which
is
partly
is
for
the
for
the
hiring
of
a
new
inspector,
the
rental
database
and
all
of
the
other
things
that
Sarah
just
mentioned.
C
Also
that
it'll
be
a
lot
more
usable,
but
can
we
have
some
distribution
of
this
for
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
because
if
we
only
say
to
hire
an
inspector,
it
sounds
like
we're:
hiring
a
CEO
inspector
and
that'll
be
quite
a
quite
a
salary.
So
I
think
that
it'd
be
best
to
understand
this
for
for
our
committee
and
for
posterity
history
of
the
Committees
approvals
to
have
a
better
breakdown.
So
that
is
my
question,
and
but
I
have
a
now
talking
about
it.
C
I
have
another
question,
and
it
is
is
that
this
inspectors
are
going
to
work
because
you
know
kind
of
because
of
the
lack
of
economic
resources.
A
lot
of
the
violations
code,
violations
or
whatever
unsafe
conditions,
and
all
of
that
are
found
in
areas
where
less
economic
wealth,
so
but
these
inspectors
are
acting
across
the
entire
city
because
their
rentals
at
all
levels
in
the
City
of
Evanston
and
there
are
unsafe
and
many
times
on
sanitary
conditions
at
all
at
all
levels.
C
Also,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
everybody's
treated
equally
when
the
inspectors
are
out
and
about
and
not
just
the
areas
that
have
less
resources
to
do.
And
if
that
were
the
case,
are
we
allocating
funds
to
help
these
folks
that
we
find
in
violation,
and
it
is
due
to
their
condition,
their
economical
conditions,
to
not
being
able
to
address
the
issues
that
make
these
violations
appear?.
I
So
I
think
I
can
get
your
questions
there.
So
this
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
is
not
for
one
inspector,
the
325
or
whatever
that
we've
previously
asked
for
has
covered
four
inspectors
and
the
supervisor,
and
now
we've
added
an
additional
inspector.
So
we
increased
our
funding
to
do
that.
So
it's
not
just
for
one
person
it's
to
help
cover
all
of
it,
but
all
of
our
inspectors
do
inspections,
All,
Over,
Evanston,
it's
not
just
in
the
cdbg
area.
I
We
do
inspections
in
any
rental
property
anywhere
in
Evanston.
The
issue
that
we
have
predominantly
in
cdbg
is
that,
as
we
do,
the
inspections
in
these
areas
you're
correct.
They
have
less
funding
to
do
the
repairs,
and
so
sometimes
it
takes
more
time
for
us
to
spend
in
that
area
because
we
need
to
work
with
them
longer
to
bring
them
into
compliance.
But,
additionally,
we
also
respond
to
complaints
and
we
historically
get
more
complaints
in
a
cdbg
area,
because
the
landlord
isn't
fixing
the
issue,
and
so
the
tenant
calls
to
complain.
I
H
Also,
the
people
with
code
very
violations
are
referred
to
the
housing
rehab
program,
correct
some
of
them,
don't
take
it
some
of
them.
Do
we?
Actually
it
wasn't
through
code
inspection
violations.
We
are
actually
right
now,
working
on
a
too
flat.
That
was
the
property
owner
just
said:
hey
I
can
actually
I
would
really
like
to
rehab
and
take
care
of
some
issues
that
I
I
would
like
to
improve
in
my
property.
So
that's
a
positive
thing
and
one
of
the
things
I
think
that
we
have
run
into.
H
Is
we
get
the
same
resistance
from
Property
Owners
because
they're,
mostly
small
property?
You
know
relatively
small
landlords,
as
we
have
gotten
from
homeowners.
They
are
reluctant
to
have
a
lien
on
their
property
and
to
need
to
pay
back
a
loan.
So
I
think
that
that
would
having
forgivable
loans
would
be
helpful
for
that
as
well.
B
And
to
add
to
that
Hugo
I
just
want
to
make
sure
you
were
able
to
see
it's
not
exactly
the
answer
to
your
question,
but
in
the
application
there
was
a
budget
of
the
last
page.
That
kind
of
shows
the
whole
budget
with
the
spread
of
the
different
expenses.
So
you
can.
It
covers
the
whole
budget,
just
the
400
000,
but
you
can
at
least
see
the
scale
of
what's
for
salaries.
What's
four
others
cost.
What's
for
the
database,
Etc
I.
C
B
A
B
Right
and
we
have
four
different
projects,
I
believe
for
our
application
for
from
Lara
and
her
team.
So.
A
L
Sure
so
it's
a
pretty
typical
every
year
that
we
apply
for
at
least
one
alley
for
improvement
this
year.
At
the
request
of
council
member
Reed,
we
applied
for
two.
L
The
first
alley
is
in
the
eighth
Ward,
the
second
alley,
and
it
was
sort
of
next
on
our
list,
and
the
second
alley
is
the
alley
that
is
adjacent
to
the
living
room.
That's
being
developed
at
the
house
that
is
owned
by
Saint
Francis,
so
councilmember
Reed
asks
us
to
make
sure
that
was
a
improved.
So
we
are
also
requesting
funding
for
that
Ally.
B
And
just
as
context,
I
believe,
the
committee
is
aware
that
you
we
did
a
prioritization
of
allies,
we're
working
through
2024,
but
those
two
realities
you,
the
Committees,
already
voted
as
priority
for
2023.
So
right
now
we're
discussing
the
funding,
but
there
there
was
already
some
some
initial
decision
from
this
committee,
which
is
why
we
put
both
forward
as
well
in
this
allocation
plan
right
right.
C
Sorry
again,
I
just
wonder
if
if
maybe
Lara
has
some
response
to
Carlos,
or
is
he
going
to
go
on
the
side
to
talk
to
council
member
Burns
outside
of
this
meeting.
L
I
I
do
and
the
so
the
alley
that
is,
that
is
his
alley,
is
being
improved.
Using
waste
transfer
station
funds
that
were
settlement
for
the
waste
transfer
station,
the
city
and
the
station
got
into
a
suit
about
a
lawsuit
about
what
fees
were
being
charged,
and
this
was
part
of
the
settlement
and
we've
been
using
it
to
improve
infrastructure,
primarily
alleys,
around
the
waste
transfer
station
area.
L
I
believe
his
is
the
last
alley.
Actually
that
is
being
approved
and
part
of
the
reason
is
because
that
alley
required
an
easement
from
ComEd
who
owns
property
along
there.
We
received
that
easement
and
we
started
construction,
and
there
turned
out
there
were
some
underground
infrastructure
that
ComEd
had
shown
had
not
shown
us,
which
is
their
infrastructure.
We,
we
approve
an
alley.
We
add
a
sewer
system
for
drainage
and
put
in
a
concrete
slab
in
this
case.
L
The
communication
has
not
been
adequate
and
for
that
I
do
apologize
and
we'll
get
a
newsletter
out
to
the
residents
promptly
to
make
sure
that
everybody
understands
what's
happening.
Unfortunately,
because
materials
everything
shuts
down
for
the
winter
in
road
construction,
the
materials
to
improve
the
alley
are
not
going
to
be
available
until
spring.
So
I
will
also
work
with
staff
to
make
sure
that
we
leave
the
alley
in
a
usable
condition,
and
everybody
understands
where
to
put
their
garbage
cans
and
everything
else.
K
And
I
just
want
to
clarification
that
I
think
just
a
portion
of
the
alley
is
going
to
be
asphalt
unless
that's
changed,
I
think.
L
Project,
it's
been
a
very
challenging
construction
season
in
general.
It
was
a
strike
that
made
it
so
that
we
could
not
get
asphalt
from
June
through
August
and
as
soon
as
we
could
the
worldwide
cement
shortage.
That
hadn't
been
a
problem
in
the
Chicago
area,
because
we
couldn't
do
most
of
the
road
construction
projects
in
the
metropolitan
Chicago
metropolitan
area.
All
of
a
sudden
cement
concrete
became
a
problem
and
we've
struggled
to
get
any
concrete
this
this
fall.
L
K
Just
just
follow
in
the
comments
Carlos
is
a
is
a
a
regular
commenter
in
many
of
our
meetings.
He
serves
on
the
reparations
committee
alongside
myself,
councilmember
Reed
and
others,
and
also
have
his
direct
email
and
phone
number.
So
I
will
communicate
to
him.
The
delays
I
was
not
made
aware
of
of
the
delays
which,
which
happens,
it's
a
it's
a
busy
time,
but
I'll
I'll
make
sure
he
gets
the
information
I
hopped
on
a
little
late.
K
Typically,
his
concerns
have
been
based
around
whether
or
not
the
alley
is
even
funded,
and
so
you
know
my
earlier
comments
were
just
reassuring.
This
group,
which
I
think
I've
communicated
that
before
that
it
is
a
fully
funded
out
of
a
different
fund
and
and
today
I,
realize
that
there
are
some
delays
which
which
will
make
sure
to
communicate
that
to
particular
residents.
A
L
Do
so
historically,
We
have
replaced
we're
sidewalk
squares
using
a
50
50
cost
share
with
residents
from
the
adjacent
property
owner
after
a
discussion
with
Council
about
how
that
is
not
really
Equitable
and
really
doesn't
speak
to
our
carp
goals
of
trying
to
make
safe,
complete
pedestrian
Pathways.
We
have
switched
to
a
fully
City
funded,
sidewalk
Improvement
program.
L
However,
we
have
over
a
decade
of
backlog
of
sidewalk
to
be
repaired
and
we
have
a
plan
for
doing
it,
we're
addressing
higher
priority
areas,
first
near
schools
and
senior
facilities
and
then
on
to
Medical,
near
medical
facilities
and
so
on.
However,
in
areas
like
cdbg,
we
also
are
using
Tiff
funds.
In
some
areas
we
are
trying
to
get
a
jump
start
on
sidewalk
replacement,
and
so
we
have
two
projects.
L
One
is
for
just
replacing
deteriorated
sidewalk
squares
in
the
in
the
cdbg
areas,
and
the
other
is
a
program
that
we
haven't
been
doing
at
all,
which
is
to
infill
gaps
where
sidewalks
were
not
installed
in
order
to
make
a
complete
pedestrian
Network.
L
So
we
have
so
that
particular
Gap
infill
is
on
Leland
Avenue
from
Emerson
Street
to
Wade.
Street
Leland
is
just
east
of
back
Park
along
the
canal
in
the
Fifth
Ward
and
there
is
no
sidewalk
there,
and
so
this
is
a
major
Pathway
to
get
to
one
of
the
main
entrances
of
Beck
Park,
and
so
oh
thank
you.
So
for
that
reason
we
are
proposing
to
put
sidewalk
in
that
area.
L
Yeah,
so
of
all,
all
of
these
projects
are
kind
of
the
two
alleys
and
the
sidewalk
Gap
I
would
say
either
fund
them
or
don't
Fund
in
them,
but
don't
leave
us
with
a
partially
funded
project.
However,
a
sidewalk
improvements
is
simpler,
like
if
there
were
twenty
thousand
dollars
of
funding
available.
C
Gap
infill
I
noticed
that
it
happens
kind
of
radically
around
the
city
and
in
some
instances,
is
very
close
to
schools,
which
you
know
when
I'm
walking
my
dog
I
have
to
get
on
the
street
because
there
is
no
sidewalk
or
across
the
street
Midway,
because
the
sidewalks
stop
at
one
point
also
I've
noticed
that
so
maybe,
if
you
could
give
us
a
little
bit
of
a
historic
background
of
why
that
happened,
that
some
streets
don't
have
sidewalks
and
also
I
I
presume
and
I'm,
perhaps
wrong
at
doing
that
that
that
land
still
belongs
to
the
city,
even
if
it's
taking
over
by
the
owner
of
that
property
that
is
adjacent
to
that
Parkway.
C
That
is
not
there,
because
there
is
no
sidewalk.
There
is
no
Parkway.
It's
it's
a
front
yard
to
somebody
which
I
totally
understand,
but
somebody
some
some
homeowners
become
very
possessive
of
that
land,
but
it's
really
not
theirs
and
they
obstruct
even
the
passage
on
the
muddy
grass
or
whatever
the
non-existent
sidewalk.
So
I
was
just
wondering
why,
historically
how
that
happened.
How
is
it
that
some
areas
don't
have
sidewalks
in
the
city.
L
L
There
may
have
been
just
it
wasn't
part
of
the
city
code,
and
so
sometimes
they
did
it,
and
sometimes
they
didn't,
but
in
more
recent
times
and
by
that
I
mean
since
the
50s
I
think
it
was
more
like
a
developer
would
get
an
exemption
on
a
whole
for
whatever
reason
they'd
say:
oh,
you
know,
I'm
doing
this,
sidewalks
aren't
going
to
be
needed.
L
Do
I
really
also
need
to
do
that
in
addition
to
whatever
I'm
doing
there
are
some
areas
where
they
would
dedicate
as
part
of
the
development
they
would
dedicate
space
for
parks
in
addition
to
having
plants,
you
know
subdivided
Lots,
so
I
think
there
were
negotiations.
That
happened.
None
of
it
was
written
down,
that's
all
like
hearsay,
but
that's
how
it
happened.
L
Unfortunately,
it
did
create
a
situation
like
you're
describing
where,
although
technically
that
area
of
the
parkway
is
still
owned
by
the
city,
people
have
taken
it
to
be
their
own
private
property
and
frequently
have
put
up
not
frequently
in
many
cases,
they've
put
up
obstructions
that
don't
allow
the
people
to
walk
in
their
yard
and
they
get
really
upset
if
people
are
walking
where
they
perceive
it
to
be
their
yard,
and
even
when
it's
wide
open
and
the
people
whose
house
it
is
don't
care.
L
If
school
children
walk
in
the
yard
in
the
grass
as
soon
as
it
snows
and
we
plow
the
street
that
becomes
sort
of
a
non-option,
because
there's
a
big
hill
of
snow
there,
and
so
people,
then
just
walk
in
the
street
anyway,
and
one
of
the
issues
that
we
have
with
having
a
an
incomplete
Network
like
this
is
that
it
is
often
when
the
weather
is
very
bad,
that
people
are
most
likely
to
walk
in
the
street
and
those
people
are
usually
children
on
the
way
to
school.
So
it's
really
not
great
situation
generally.
L
The
other
part
about
not
having
a
complete
sidewalk
network
is
that
when
we
talk
about
the
use
of
mass
transit
like
buses,
the
first
part
of
your
journey
and
the
last
part
of
your
journey
are
usually
walking
because
it
doesn't
drop
you
off
at
your
house.
It
drops
you
off
at
a
stop
and
you
have
to
get
to
where
you're
going
and
so
having
a
sidewalk
network
with
gaps
actually
does
not
support
the
use
of
mass
transit.
L
So,
for
that
reason
you
know
we
have
worked
with
Council
to
come
up
with
a
program
where
we
start
filling
this
in,
but
honestly
it's
a
long-term
program.
I
mean
we
are
10
or
20
years
from
having
a
complete
sidewalk
Network,
even
with
fairly
generous
funding.
So
it's.
L
That
is
why
we
are
proposing
to
use
cdbg
funds
and
Tiff
funds
to
try
to
supplement
the
situation.
We
feel
like
it's
really
important
for
carp
and
expanding
pedestrian
and
mass
transit
use,
and
it's
really
important
for
Equity,
because
the
people
that
are
most
impacted
tend
to
be
vulnerable
populations
or
people
of
lower
income
that
don't
have
access
to
their
own
motorized
vehicle.
G
No,
no
well
actually
what
two
things
yeah,
one!
If
we're
starting
to
wrap
down
the
sidewalk
discussion
as
well,
then
I
just
want
to
thank
Laura
and
her
team,
but
I
I
did
on
sidewalks
I
just
wanted
to
note
for.
J
G
Hugo
in
the
eighth
Ward
just
to
highlight
how
possessive
some
folks
get
of
the
I
thought.
You
know
what
before
I
started.
My
campaign
I
was
walking
around
the
neighborhood
and
was
speaking
to
some
folks.
I
noticed,
oh
well,
here
the
streets
in
the
eighth
Ward
that
don't
have
sidewalks
and
I
thought.
You
know,
that's
something.
I
could
talk
to
Neighbors
about,
and
you
know
be
an
issue
campaign
about
helping
them
get
sidewalks
and
I.
E
G
I
was
so
surprised
to
hear
that
and
I
just
well
I
said:
I'll
drop
that
issue
and
won't
you
know,
go
disrupting
people
and
so
yeah.
There
are
some
people
who
are
extremely
possessive
about
it,
but
I
think
as
Laura
highlighted,
we
really
just
need
to
educate
folks
about
the
the
equity
and
climate
concerns
here
and
I.
Think
we
can
change
a
lot
of
minds
and
we
don't
really
need
to
change
Minds,
because
it's
our
property
already.
A
L
C
A
A
Passes
great:
okay
thanks
everybody!
Now
we
need
a
motion
to
recommend
approval
of
the
draft
2023
action
plan
recommended
to
city
council
I.
Guess
we're
recommending
Council
approvement
following
receipt
of
the
2023
entitlement,
Grant
amounts.
A
In
a
second,
please,
second,
okay,
so
we
had
the
plan
in
many
many
pages
of
the
plan
in
our
packet.
Any
comments
or
questions
about
that
which
I'm
sure
you
all
read
diligently.
B
But
I
just
want
to
add
a
comment
before
there's
any
question
for
anybody.
That's
worried.
Maybe
they
didn't
grasp
all
180
pages
of
the
plan.
We
pull
out
the
allocation
plan,
which
is
the
big
part
of
this
document,
specifically
to
make
sure
that
that
part
is
discussed.
A
Exactly
yeah,
no
we've
had
a
really
good
and
thorough
discussion.
I
think
about
okay,
then
I
guess
we're
ready
for.
K
For
Marion,
you
mentioned
something
earlier
and
I
can't
remember
exactly
what
it
says,
but
it
was.
It
seemed
like
there
might
be
funding
kind
of
left
left
over
funding
remaining
funding
at
some
point
that
we
might
be
able
to
allocate
for
some
other
purpose.
I
I
missed
all
of
it.
I
caught
like
a
little
bit
of
it
and
I.
Don't
I,
don't
know
if
you
remember.
B
On
the
housing
rehab,
we
were
mentioning
we
weren't
allocating
as
much
because
there
was
some
unexpended
from
previous
years,
so
this
year
we
didn't
feel
we
needed
to
allocate
as
much
as
previous
years,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
mindful
of
the
bandwidths
and
what's
actually
possible
to
be
spent.
B
And
then
I
had
talked
about
how
the
funding
is
now
like.
The
allocation
plan
is
by
percentage
and
should,
and
it's
based
on
estimate
grants.
So
should
there
be
a
higher
amount,
that's
actually
a
final
Grant
amount.
Then
there
could
be
some
a
little
bit
of
additional
funding,
because
we
are
being
usually
a
little
bit
conservative
and
should
there
be
any
major
changes
in
what
the
committee
wants
to
do
with
allocation?
B
There's,
always
a
certain
percentage
of
changes
we
can
make
because
we're
working
by
percentage
and
because
there's
a
kind
of
twenty
percent
kind
of
Threshold
at
which
for
reallocation
by
go,
at
which
point
we
need
to
have
a
substantial
Amendment.
So
there's
a
few
areas
where
there's
flexibility.
Should
there
be
any
change
between
now
and
the
moment
where
we
go
to
city
council
with
the
final
grants
to
get
the
plan,
the
action
plan
approved.
K
And
and
so
I've
talked
to
I've
sent
an
EVO
to
you
and
I
think
Sarah
offline
about
this,
but
and
I
don't
know
if
this
is
relevant
to
this
discussion.
K
So
excuse
me
if
it's
not,
but
you
know
we
I
talked
about
a
a
a
potential
Park
Improvement
project
in
the
cdbg
area.
We
have
you
know
one
of
our.
We
talked
a
lot
about
the
the
amount
of
the
the
fact
that
we're
behind
in
improving
our
some
of
our
parks,
in
particular
our
play
equipment
at
parks,
and
we
have
one
in
the
cdbg
area
in
Twigs
Park.
That
I
know
is
eligible
for
some
funds.
K
B
It
would
so
I
have
a
couple
things.
I
did
bring
up
your
suggestion
to
Lara
Biggs
and
I
I
wish
she
was
still
on
the
call,
but
she
did
she
did
get
this
this
information
she
shared
with
us
that
at
this
point
she
would
like
to
look
at
the
project
all
together
within
both
the
parks
play,
equipment,
Improvement
effort
that
she
has
with
her
entire
team,
as
well
as
just
the
a
potential
kind
of
larger
look
at
what
the
parks
need
as
far
as
renovation
or
improvements.
B
So
that
could
be
coming.
That
could
be
a
discussion,
maybe
for
a
slightly
larger
scope,
especially
with
this
skate
park
that
may
be
coming
in
and
then
should
there
be
additional
funding.
B
That
comes
as
an
example
additional
to
the
estimated
grant
that
we
projected
yes,
there
could
that
additional
funding
could
be
put
towards
the
livable
Community
within
that
20
range.
So
as
an
example,
20
of
680
would
be
about
a
hundred
and
30
if
I'm
135,
140
So
within
that
range
that
could
be
potentially
allocated
to
that
goal
and
we
wouldn't
have
to
make
major
changes
and
have
a
substantial
Amendment
to
the
action
plan.
B
So
that
is
a
possibility,
but
I
believe
that
probably
would
be
good
to
have
this
effort
be
part
of
a
larger
look
at
what's
needed
in
that
Park
and
in
parks
in
general.
K
I
agree
with
and
I'll
talk
to
you
more
about
this,
like
about
this
park,
I
think
including
all
parks
outside
of
the
cdbg
area,
kind
of
takes
it
out
of
the
scope
of
of
this
committee,
but
definitely
I
wanted
to
include
it
as
part
of
a
larger
discussion
about
Twix
Park
but
I'll.
We
can
discuss
that
more
offline,
but
thank
you
for
that.
A
A
Okay,
that
I
think
ready
for
a
roll
call
on
the
motion
to
recommend
approval
of
graph
2023
action
plan
to
see
the
council.
D
A
Thank
you
very
much,
and
then
we
have
one
last
motion
which
we
need:
a
motion
to
approve
our
2023
Housing
and
Community
Development
committee
meeting
dates
that
were
in
the
packet.
Yes,.
H
D
The
exception
of
December,
which
we
moved
to
December
12th
right
much
like
this
year,
but
we
wanted
to
be
preemptive
and
get
it
done.
So
everybody
knows
Before,
Time
and
and
plans
accordingly.
D
So
these
are
the
dates
and
we
are
still
thinking
of
having
it
at
7
pm.
If
that
works
for
everyone.
Okay,.
A
So
could
we
have
the
motion
yeah,
council,
member
Reed,.
G
I'll
move
the
meeting
calendar
I
will
note
that
so
I
I
have
I'm
on
the
finance
and
budget
committee
and
that
committee
meets
on
the
second
Tuesday
of
every
month,
which
is
fine.
It's
just
today
and
I'll
assume.
This
will
happen
again.
Next
year
we
had
back-to-back
meetings
and
that
caused
me
to
be
a
bit
late
here
and
so
again.
We'd
have
to
change
the
committee
schedule
for
me,
but
is
the
first
Tuesday
in
December
a
is
there
a
reason?
We
couldn't
do
that
date.
That.
F
G
We
ended
today,
just
I'd
say
maybe
six
or
I
mean
7
30.
Whatever
time
a
little
bit
after
this
committee
started,
I
jumped
off
before
the
end
of
it
to
get
here
all.
F
G
F
A
D
D
B
Yes,
yes,
I
just
wanted
to
provide
before
we
had
during
the
meeting.
I
just
wanted
to
provide
a
couple
staff
updates.
Okay,
that
your
you
may
want
to
hear
about.
I
wanted
to
mention
that
the
One-Stop
shop,
Advisory
Group,
had
their
first
meeting
last
week
and
it
went
quite
well
so
they
are
starting
the
conversation
they
had.
B
Their
introduction
got
some
of
the
group
members
to
meet
and
start
having
some
Commerce
some
helpful
conversation,
and
they
will
work
that
we
need
probably
every
month
for
the
next
three
to
four
months,
and
then
they
have
some
additional
conversation
after
that
and
they're
also
starting
to
think
about
potential
focus
groups
with
landlords
and
tenants.
B
Sorry,
not
tenants,
homeowners
and
residents
to
make
sure
they
have
they
can
hear
from
the
community
and
then
the
second
and
third
item
I
wanted
to
mention
so
that
you're
aware
in
January,
we
are
hoping
to
be
able
to
kick-start
the
conversation
around
the
landlord
tenant
ordinance
review.
B
So
what
we're
hoping
to
do
is
to
provide
you
with
some
background
information
and
some
overview
of
the
work
that
had
already
been
started
back
in
2021,
so
that
we
can
start
in
February
with
some
further
conversation
about
how
to
bring
in
the
multiple
regulations
and
conversation
that
have
been
going
on
throughout
the
city.
On
this
topic,
including
just
cause
eviction
just
housing
and
other
Cook
County
in
Chicago
landlord,
tenant,
ordinance
and
as
well.
B
We're
hoping,
although
that
may
be
a
little
bit
of
ambition
of
ambitious
of
a
schedule
for
January
we're
hoping
to
maybe
be
able
to
provide
you
with
an
update
on
our
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
review
and
provide
some
high-level
suggestion
to
get
some
feedback
before
we
come
back
to
this
group
with
a
little
bit
more
of
a
proposal
for
an
update
to
the
aicho.
Ideally
in
February.
If
schedule
allows.
H
The
our
lovely
federal
government
has
not,
of
course,
done
its
Appropriations
bills,
but
they
have
a
continuing
resolution
until
this
Friday.
There
is
discussion
that
they're
going
to
try
to
pass
a
year-long
continuing
resolution
and
just
basically
have
the
same
budget
levels
as
this
year
with
the
2022
with
very
few
changes.
H
Whether
that
will
happen
is
not
certain,
but
if
it
does
not
happen,
we
could
have
some
real
delays
because
we
will
be
getting
a
changeover
with
the
Republicans
taking
control
of
the
house.
So
you
know
the
Democrats
are
trying
to.
Oh,
you
know
it's
the
same
old
thing
right,
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
move
that
forward,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
you
aware
of
that.
H
So
if
they
were
to
pass
a
continuing
resolution
for
the
entire
year
through,
you
know
on
the
16th
and
that
would
go,
you
know,
obviously
for
the
remainder
of
the
fiscal
year
to
September
30th.
H
What
would
happen
is
HUD
would
have
it
60
days
to
look
at
its
formulas
and
rejigger
them,
and
that
would
be
one
of
the
soonest
I.
You
know
quickest.
The
federal
government
has
passed
a
budget
in
a
very
long
time
that
does
not
necessarily
guarantee
that
the
whole
Grant,
even
we,
we
would
be
able
to
start
working
on
our
action
plan
sooner
than
we
have
some
years,
but
that
doesn't
necessarily
mean
we
would
get
access
to
our
funds
a
whole
lot
sooner.
H
Hud
gets
backed
up
just
as
we
all
do
because
they
have
other
things
planned
out
through
their
years.
So
when
federal
government
does
appropriations,
it
kind
of
can
screw
up
their
schedules
as
well,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
you
aware
that
we're
still
waiting
for
a
budget,
obviously
and
we'll-
let
you
know
when
we
hear
anything
right:
okay,.
A
Thanks
Council
memory,
yeah.
G
B
Sure,
actually,
that
was
why
I
was
raising
my
hand,
because
I
realized.
That
was
the
fourth
item.
I,
wanted
to
update
this
committee
on
that
I
missed.
So
we
were
hoping
to
have
the
small
landlord
proposal
that
you
voted
on
last
at
last
committee.
B
A
H
B
All
right
and
since
we
moved
to
the
public
comment,
but
it
was
original
on
the
agenda
at
the
end,
I'm
gonna
move
Tina
to
allow
her
to
provide
public
comments.
J
Hi
good
evening,
hi,
yes,
I,
was
very
upset
that
that
did
not
go
to
council
yesterday,
since
you
all
voted
and
said
that
it
would
go
to
12.,
it's
very
unfortunate
that
other
businesses
are
getting
half
a
million
dollars
and
millions
of
dollars
and
what
you
all
say
so
important,
affordable,
housing
and
here
I
am
waiting
still
another
month
and
from
what
you
passed
anyway.
I
do
not
qualify
because
you
lowered
it
to
25
and
I
have
27
units,
so
it
doesn't
matter
anyway.
J
So
the
city
has
continuously
cut
me
out
for
many
years
and
I'll
just
have
to
cut
out
my
affordable
units,
because
I
can't
afford
it,
and
it's
very
sad
that
businesses,
right
here
by
my
place,
650
000
for
soul
and
smoke
and
someone
to
hold
a
waiting
list
from
sepa,
fifty
thousand
to
hold
a
waiting
list.
Well,
I
have
many
people
calling
me
from
connections
and
other
agencies
looking
for
apartments.
I
cannot
afford
to
do
this
and
no
help
from
the
city.
It's
a
slap
in
the
face
and
just
get
pushed
down.
J
The
line
with
many
promises.
Unfulfilled
and
I
would
also
like
to
say
that,
if
you
do
not
include
the
landlord
in
all
of
these
new
ordinances
that
you
plan
on
passing
in
January,
it
is
going
to
be
a
bad
situation
for
you
all
for
continuing
for
to
get
people
to
provide
affordable
housing.
You
exclude
the
landlord
and
financials,
and
you
also
exclude
the
landlord
in
making
any
ordinance
and
negotiations,
and
that
is
why
you
cannot
find
people
to
take
the
programs,
so
I
hope
you
think
about
this
on
moving
forward
in
your
decisions.
A
You
Tina,
thank
you,
okay,
so
is
that
that's
the
last
from
staff?
Great
okay?
Well,
then,
I
I
think
we
have
concluded
our
business
and
our
next
meeting
is
January
17th.
So
with
that
happy
holidays
to
everybody-
and
we
are
adjourned
happy.