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A
A
A
Okay,
so
there's
no
one
signed
up
for
the
first
item:
that's
the
stone.
Terrace
renewal
and
renewal
staff
recommends
approval
of
the
renewal
of
the
bed-and-breakfast
license
for
stone.
Terrace
bed-and-breakfast,
located
at
1622
forest
place
in
Evanston.
That's
for
action!
Is
there
a
motion
to
approve
the
proof?
Is
there
a
second
okay
I
had
a
question
about
this
from
for
staff,
because
in
our
packet
were
the
bed-and-breakfast
is,
is
required
to
have
a
live-in
owner,
and
that
was
not
evident
in
the
information
that
was
in
our
packet.
A
C
This
is
Mario
trudeau,
assistant
city
attorney,
I,
looked
into
obtaining
a
manager
certificate
indicating
the
ownership
of
the
particular
property
for
the
record.
The
manager
certificate
states
at
a
trade
park
in
Illinois,
limited
liability
company
is
the
owner
of
the
property.
Tamas
approach
has
a
two
point,
one
to
seven
ownership
interest
in
patron
park
and
Virginia.
Zip
rich
has
a
two
point,
one
to
point:
one
to
seven
ownership
as
well
in
both
individuals
live
on
the
property
and
will
be
the
principle
operators
of
the
bed-and-breakfast
on
the
property.
Okay,.
A
C
A
D
E
My
name
is
Jake
Samuels
I
represent
space.
The
concert
venue
on
Chicago
Avenue,
part
of
our
10-year
anniversary
plans,
call
for
a
potential
concert
to
occur
on
the
1st
and
2nd
holes
of
Canal
shores,
and
we've
worked
at
length
with
the
neighborhood,
with
Canal
Shores
board,
with
aldermen
Ravel,
and
we're
excited
to
to
bring
that
to
to
you.
This
would
be
July
27th
and
28th
mm
thick
'it's
sold
on
on
this
particular
piece
of
of
Canal
Shores
and
a
concert
to
occur
between
the
hours
of
6:00
and
10:00
p.m.
on
that
site.
F
Well,
I
would
just
say
that
I
had
a
canal
Shores
update
meeting
not
long
ago
and
Jake
was
one
of
the
presenters
and
discussed
his
the
proposal
for
the
concert
and
the
reaction.
The
response
from
the
residents
there
there
were
quite
a
good
attendance,
was
very
positive
and
so
I
think
everybody's
really
looking
forward
to
this
event,.
A
Terrific
and
any
other
questions.
Okay,
then,
did
we
move
this
okay?
Would
someone
like
to
move
this
I
move
approval.
A
G
G
G
A
J
Thank
you
for
letting
me
speak
today
and
I
was
very
surprised
to
see
that
you
guys
had
this
agenda
item
for
your
meeting
tonight
to
speak
on
panhandling
and
I'm,
appalled
that
it's
on
here,
because
people
who
are
in
the
lowest
point
of
their
lives
me
as
well
as
other
people
are
the
ones
who
are
out
there.
Panhandling
I
know
for
certain
that
there
was
one
Jewish
man
who
just
turned
65,
who
just
got
housing
after
ten
years?
J
Would
panhandled
buy
the
parking
structure
over
there
by
the
movie
theater,
and
you
say
that
people
don't
feel
safe
and
I'm,
sorry
that
they
don't
feel
safe.
There
are
some
panhandlers
that
are
intimidating,
but
I.
Ask
that
you
consider
taking
action
against
those
who
do
that
there
are
other
panhandlers
who
are
not
aggressive
in
any
way,
but
just
because
you're
homeless,
or
just
because
they
think
you
don't
have
money.
You
know
they
think
it's
okay
to
assume
that
you
might
want
to
rob
them
or
something
like
that.
J
I,
don't
rob
people
I
know
that
for
a
fact,
I
would
like
you
guys
to
actually
speak
to
panhandlers
and
ask
why
they're
asking
for
money.
Everybody
is
assuming
that
you
go
through.
Agencies
and
agencies
take
care
of
all
of
your
needs.
No,
they
don't.
Everybody
in
this
world
needs
money.
Agencies
do
not
give
you
money.
If
you
do
not
have
children
and
if
you
are
not
well
I,
don't
know
if
they
give
the
elderly
money,
but
most
people
don't
get
money.
J
Have
you
ever
gone
to
a
grocery
store
or
a
dollar
store
and
not
been
able
to
afford
anything
there
when
you
Panhandle
and
I,
don't
even
call
it
panhandling
I
I.
Consider
it
a
desperate
cry
for
help.
You
have
gone
through
all
the
channels
that
everybody
says
you
should
go
through
and
you'll
be
helped
and
you're
not
helped,
especially
in
this
economy.
So
you
go
to
people
face-to-face
you
talk
to
them.
They
get
to
know
you
and
I
have
met
so
many
kind.
Wonderful,
intelligent,
generous
people
who
are
compassionate
and
want
to
give
to
you.
J
So
in
restricting
this.
You
also
take
away
their
ability
to
be
kept
in
touch
with
the
reality
of
what
human
beings
are
going
through.
So
I
ask
that
you
guys
take
real
consideration
over
what
you're
discussing,
because
these
are
lives
that
you're
affecting
and
sometimes
it's
life
and
death
situations.
So
before
you,
you
just
make
it
consideration.
Oh
these
people
are
pesky
or
oh
they're,
bothering
people
you
know
like
I
said
many
times,
I'm
college
educated,
I,
don't
have
my
degree,
but
I've
got
three
and
a
half
years
of
college,
very
college
Trinity
College
Northwestern.
J
When
people
talk
to
me,
they
get
to
know
that
this
could
happen
to
you
too,
and
you
don't
know
how
many
people
I've
talked
to,
who
are
a
middle
class
who
have
houses
who
have
homes,
say
I'm
this
close
to
homelessness
and
I,
give
them
resources.
So
it's
a
and
when
I
started
doing
this
I
didn't
do
it
to
Panhandle
I.
J
Did
it
to
speak
for
girls
who
didn't
have
a
place
to
save
because
they
don't
have
they
don't
house
women
at
connections
for
the
homeless
and
I
wanted
to
show
them
that
there's
a
way
to
ask
for
help
that
where
you
wouldn't
have
to
compromise
your
morals
and
values,
and
that
you
can
ask
people
for
help
and
you
can
get
it
and
people
started
saying
to
me:
what's
your
situation
and
I
told
them
I'm
homeless
too,
and
they
say
how
can
I
help
you
can
I
donate
to
you?
Well
sure.
So.
J
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
But
this
isn't
black
and
white,
just
like
any
criminal
activity
and
I
mean
criminal,
and
this
is
not
criminal,
any
criminal
activity
you
call
the
police
just
like
you
would
on
any
other
circumstance,
but
I
want
you
guys
to
know
as
I'm
passionate
about
this
and
if
I
see
this
going
through,
I
will
do
everything
I
can
to
make
sure
that
it
is
shot
down.
Thank
you
have
a
good
day.
Thank.
D
Evening,
Alex
Morgan
live
at
7:28
Hinman
Avenue
I
had
written
out
a
brief
statement
that
I'm
not
going
to
read
that
I
think
I
would
just
do
whatever
I
can
to
echo
the
previous
statement,
because
I
think
that
says
pretty
much.
Everything
I'm
here
to
oppose
the
proposed
ordinance
I'd.
Add
that
I
think
we've
seen
a
number
of
cases
across
the
country
where
these
ordinances
have
been
struck
down.
D
B
B
We
at
Connexions
feel
that
panhandling
actually
serves
a
fairly
important
function
and
that
it
really
sort
of
easily
identifies
some
of
the
people
who
need
help
the
most.
It
isn't
always
housing
that
those
people
need
many
of
the
panhandlers
in
Evanston.
In
fact,
most
of
them
are
not
homeless;
they
just
need
more
money
than
what
they
have.
B
So
there
isn't
any
one
nonprofit
that's
going
to
take
responsibility
for
getting
all
the
panhandlers
off
the
street,
but
certainly
it
is
a
way
of
identifying
people
who
do
need
more
resources
than
they
have
one
of
the
examples
of
somebody
who
has
been
identified
and
helped
because
of
their
visibility
as
a
panhandler
is
one
of
the
people
who
was
a
very
visible
person
on
the
streets.
One
of
our
staff
members
befriended
him
over
time,
found
that
he
was
homeless,
got
a
vulnerability
assessment
for
them,
which
is
the
way
we
place
people
into
supportive
housing.
B
B
Fining
panhandlers,
I,
don't
think,
makes
a
lot
of
sense
and
forcing
them
to
do.
Community
service
is
also
problematic.
Both
of
these,
if
people
don't
comply,
could
lead
to
additional
problems,
hopefully
not
all
the
way
to
incarceration,
but
we're
just
sort
of
exploding
the
problem.
If
we
keep
escalating
it
and
we
feel
it's
somewhat
premature
to
be
making
a
decision,
we
were
so
much
surprised
by
this.
Coming
up.
B
He
is
in
the
process
now
of
introducing
himself
to
people
in
Evanston,
including
panhandlers,
including
business
owners,
and
he
is
going
to
be
looking
very
hard
for
ways
to
collaborate
to
refer
people
who
are
vulnerable
to
appropriate
services,
to
educate
the
community
about
how
to
work
with
people
with
mental
illness
and
people
who
have
been
living
in
chronic
poverty
and
to
find
humane
and
productive
ways
to
meet
the
needs
of
all
of
our
residents.
So
we
ask
that
you
work
with
us
before
you
consider
passing
this
ordinance.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Thank.
K
L
Panhandling
has
been
around
for
forever
existed
in
human
history
way
before
we
got
here,
probably
gonna,
be
here
after
we
get
here
most
of
the
people
that
are
out
there
are
homeless
and
they
don't
have
resources.
So
anything
that's
offered
through
connections,
which
is
you
know,
limited
within
itself,
has
recently
been
available,
but
with
the
housing
situation,
a
lot
of
those
guys
have
been
out
there
15
30
years.
L
A
lot
of
you
guys
probably
have
never
experienced
on
homelessness,
but
it's
a
problem
around
the
world
and
for
someone
to
pay
attention
it's
to
the
situation,
to
the
point
where
they
don't
want
to
help.
They
want
to
try
to
eradicate
it
or
make
it
almost
impossible.
Is
poor
decision
making
I
think
I
met
a
lot
of
people.
You
know
from
streetwise
from
the
correlation
that
streetwise
is
form
and
they
have
unprotected
a
lot
of
rights
for
the
homeless.
L
A
H
That's
not
solved
by
other
city
laws
that
would
stop
a
salt
or
you
know
aggressive
behavior,
we're
talking
about
again
penalizing
people
who
don't
have
anything
and
monetarily
to
give
finding
them
we're
talking
about
very
subjective
decision-making
here
by
people
who
may
report
somebody,
because
they're
offended
they're
being
asked
in
certain
situations,
or
they
have
particular
biases
and
we're
talking
about
police
enforcement
of
this
ordinance
when
we
know
that
there's
implicit
via
bias
and
a
lot
of
the
police
enforcement
activities
in
Evanston,
so
we're
totally
opposed
to
this
ordinance.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
very
much
okay,
we'll
open
it
up
to
discussion
on
the
committee
and
I
will
say
starting
out
with
this,
that,
while
it's
on
our
agenda
for
action
tonight,
it's
been
my
intention
to
keep
this
that
committee,
so
that
we
can
have
a
further
discussion,
and
just
so
everyone
knows
this
has
grown
out
of
years
and
years
of
discussion.
Every
Ward
meeting,
I
have
and
pauldron
Wilson
and
I
share
most
of
the
downtown,
but
every
Ward
meeting
I
have
panhandling
is
an
issue
and
a
very
a
very
touchy
issue.
A
We
talk
about
it
every
time
our
PST
officer
knows
most
of
the
panhandlers
in
the
downtown
and
also
downtown
Evanston.
The
SSA
that
covers
most
of
downtown
has
also
done
an
incredible
amount
of
work
reaching
out
to
panhandlers
and
trying
to
find
ways
that
people
can
give
money
without
giving
money
directly
to
the
individuals.
I
will
also
say
that
there
are
people
who
are
very
needy
who
are
panhandling,
but
there
are
also
people
who
do
this
for
a
business
and
it's
very
hard
for
us
to
distinguish
between
those
folks.
A
So
I
think
everyone
is
cognizant
and
committed
to
protecting
the
First
Amendment
rights
that
folks
have
I.
Don't
think
anyone
wants
to
penalize
people
who
are
truly
in
need,
but
we
do
have
a
problem
and
I'll
I'll
tell
you
one
of
the
issues
I
mean
recently
we
had
someone
who
set
up
a
business
plugging
into
the
socket
where
we
normally
plug
in
holiday
lights
and
offering
tonsorial
services
on
the
street
I
mean
we
can't
have
that,
that's
it.
A
G
Thank
you
for
the
public
comments
and
thank
you
for
clarifying
some
of
those
points
automatic
some
questions.
I
had
so
I
have
some
huge
reservations
to
this
ordinance.
It's
up
some
of
the
language
I
find
a
little
troubling.
When
we
talk
about
a
reasonable
person
would
feel
threatened
or
a
reasonable
person
would
fear
bodily
harm.
I
mean
it.
You
know
I,
think
I
know
the
recent
Overson
is,
but
you
know
just
that
kind
of
language.
G
Doesn't
you
know
it's
a
proximity
issue
which
I
get
for
server
safety,
but
I
don't
know
if,
for
me
personally,
I,
don't
think
that
whether
the
person
is
panhandling
or
just
you
know,
asking
me
something
else
if
I,
if
I'm
comfortable
with
somebody
kind
of
a
costing
me
outside
of
an
ATM
machine
as
well
as
you
know,
I
know
that
I've
been
looking
this
up.
I
know
there
have
been
when
the
first
ordinance
was
made.
I
know
there
were
things
like
a
pamphlet,
I
think
that
was
made.
G
That
came
from
looks
like
the
city
and
maybe
connections.
They
gave
information
to
people
who
were
panhandling
where
they
could
get
a
meal
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
connection
has
an
outreach
staff,
but
I
would
like
us
to
definitely
look
at
incorporating
some
other
kind
of
resource
right,
instead
of
just
saying,
you're,
potentially
going
to
be
arrested
or
fined
for
being
20
feet
within
a
sidewalk
cafe
that
we
need
to
offer
something
else.
I
have,
as
a
speaker
said,
I
have
some
reservations
about
finding
people
or
community
service
I.
G
Think
community
service
can
be
a
little
bit
of
humiliating
I
guess,
depending
on
what
it
is
fine,
you
know.
Maybe
does
it
make
sense
these
folks
don't
have
money
or
we're
assuming
they
don't
have
money,
so
I
I
definitely
can
understand
as
someone
who
goes
downtown
Evanson
that
we
have
panhandlers
I'm
sure
just
like
in
every
other
urban
City.
This
is
an
issue
and
I
know
from
my
work
at
connections
that
that's
that
some
people
are.
G
You
know
just
delightful
to
have
a
conversation
with,
and
there
are
other
folks
who
not
so
much
but
I
think
I.
Could
you
know
we
can
make
an
ordinance
for
just
you
know
everyday
residents
if
we
were
going
to
start
kind
of
tricking
ordinances
based
on
people's
behavior
I
do
I
would
think
that
we
have
other
ordinances
and
laws
that
would
prohibit
some
of
this
behavior
and,
if
I
felt
unsafe,
I
would
be
able
to
call
if
I
felt,
someone's
being
aggressive
for
any
reason.
G
I
could
call
police
and
get
assistance,
so
I
would
hate
to
make
this
ordinance
one.
That
is
really
targeting
one
group
of
people,
as
opposed
to
targeting
behaviors.
That
might
already
covered
and
I
just
don't
know,
I
guess
if
I
think
about
shoppers
or
such
who
are
downtown,
who
feel
like
this
behavior
is
really
hindering
their
experience.
G
I
guess
for
me,
I'm,
not
sure
where
people
are
shopping
them,
because,
aside
from
Old,
Orchard
I
feel
like
any
downtown
area
going,
has
some
type
of
panhandlers
and
while
it's
not
maybe
the
most
pleasant
experience,
I
think
it's
part
of
a
city
urban
experience.
I
would
I
would
like
us
to
look
more
at
what
we
can
do
to
support
to
reach
out
to
these
folks
who
are
out
there
and
trying
to
make
sure
we
get
them
connected
with
weather
resources.
G
Are
a
resources
are
available
before
we
take
the
step
of
going
to
say
you
know
you're
even
more
limited,
because
obviously,
if
you're
paying
handling,
you
want
to
be
in
a
space
where
there
are
people?
And
so
this
ordinance
essentially
says
you
can't
be
anywhere
that's
congested
or
you
can't
be.
You
know
20
feet
from
this
or
on
a
small,
sidewalk
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
which
is
essentially
going
to
put
you
in
a
place
where
there's
nobody
for
you
to
ask
for
money
and
so
I'm,
not
sure
as
a
city.
G
What
we're
trying
to
communicate.
It
sounds
like
Tamira.
This
ordinance
would
maybe
just
move
people
from
the
downtown
area
to
another
part
of
town
which
isn't
solving
our
problem.
If
we
want
to
look
at
how
we
can
assist
people
who
are
either
homeless
or
just
don't
have
enough
money
that
they
resorted
to
panhandling
so
in
the
form
it's
written
now,
I
have
heavy
heavy
opposition.
I
also
do
have
concerns
about
the
First
Amendment
rights.
G
I
looked
up,
some
other
ordinances
and
I
looked
at
some
ACLU
and
it
seems
like
they've,
really
fought
and
and
had
a
lot
of
these
similar
ordinances
or
returns.
So
I
would
like
us
to
make
sure
we
do
our
due
diligence
in
that
way
as
well
before
we
were
to
move
forward
with
any
kind
of
update
of
our
current
ordinance
and
I
guess.
G
My
last
statement
is,
and
I
can't
remember,
trying
to
read
this
real
quick
again,
but
if
we're
going
to
make
these
20
feet
kind
of
safe
space
for
lack
of
a
better
term,
I
would
just
if
we're
hopefully
we're
not,
but
if
we
went
that
way,
I
would
include
all
solicitation.
So
I
don't
want
to
be
asked
to
sign
your
political
thing.
I
don't
want
to
be
asked
what
my
thoughts
are
on
Planned
Parenthood.
You
know
if
I'm
sitting
at
a
sidewalk
cafe
and
the
thought
is
I-
don't
want
to
be.
G
A
F
You
mentioned
at
the
very
beginning
that
at
your
Ward
meeting
you
have
a
lot
of
people
with
comments
about
concerns
about
panhandlers,
and
so
are
they
mostly
concerned
about
aggressive
panhandling?
Or
is
it
just
sheer
numbers
of
panhandlers
I?
Guess
I'm,
not
convinced
about
what
the
the
perceived
need
is
here.
F
Just
a
lot
of
words
in
here
that
I
would
need
some
understanding
of
I
mean
what
you
know.
Where
are
these
narrow
sidewalks
and
how
are
we
going
to
determine
who's
going
to
determine
when
a
street
feels
congested?
I
just
think,
there's
just
way
too
much,
that's
subjective
here
in
terms
of
how
it
would
be
enforced,
so
I
have
very
serious
reservations
about
moving
a
forward
with
it
in
the
form
that
it
is.
A
Right
and
and
thank
you
for
your
comments,
so
the
the
comments
from
folks
that,
at
my
ward
meeting,
come
from
two
different
groups,
both
well
three
different
groups,
actually
downtown
residents,
downtown
shoppers
and
business
owners.
And
so
all
three
groups
have
expressed
concern
about
the
negative
impact
of
of
being
approached
continually
in
the
area
of
the
downtown
and.
A
And
it
doesn't
seem
to
me
that
we
are
doing
what
we
can
do
and
what
we
ought
to
do.
I
mean
I.
Think
of
Evanston
is
a
very
caring
community
and-
and
my
sense
is
that
we're
not
giving
out
all
the
information
that
we
could
and
part
of
this
I
think
is
a
result
of
a
couple
of
things.
I,
there's
an
incredible
amount
of
money,
that's
coming
from
Northwestern
students,
out
of
the
goodness
of
their
hearts
and
I.
A
That's
not
the
only
instance
that
seems
to
be
repeated
and
I
could
name
some
other
locations
where
we
have
problems
with
certain
panhandlers
and
I'm,
going
to
give
all
credit
to
our
PSD
officer.
Will
our
saga,
because
he's
wonderful-
and
he
knows
he
knows
everyone
and
reaches
out
her
police
department-
actually
asks
if
there
is,
if
anyone
needs
help
and
what
can
be
done,
but
obviously
that's
not
that's
a
different
there.
A
It's
a
different
persona
than
sulo
Bach,
for
example,
getting
up
and
and
she's
much
more
approachable,
so
I
again,
the
purpose
of
this
and
I
did
not
see
the
ordinance
I
mean
I
did
not
work
on
this
particular
ordinance.
This
is
coming
from
the
staff
and
I
appreciate
that,
because
we
need
to
have
a
place
to
start
I
think
we
need
to
identify
that
there's
a
problem
and
is
our
current
ordinance
working
or
not
our
people
feeling
just
not
comfortable
and
calling
in
when
they're
uncomfortable?
A
A
We've
just
had
a
number
of
new
businesses
coming
to
the
downtown,
who
have
expressed
a
concern
and
I
think
that
was
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
and
I
met
with
the
mayor
about
this,
and
we
we
had
a
pretty
lengthy
meeting
with
staff
about
what
it
is
that
we
could
do
without
appearing
to
be
unkind
or
unfriendly
or
unsupportive.
So
this
is
I
think
this
is
part
of
the
part
of
the
discussion
we're
going
to
have
to
figure
out
where
to
go.
A
G
G
That
the
store
obviously
does
not
object
to
because
they
stand
right
there
pretty
close
to
the
door
right,
and
so,
if
we
were
to
move
for
with
our
ordinance?
Assuming
that
we
are,
you
know
doing
this
to
help
people,
we
would
actually
be
overstepping
potentially
the
balance
of
the
store
who
has
said
this
is
OK.
This
is
you
know
we
believe
this
is
OK.
It's
not
obviously
they're,
not
getting
that
many
complaints,
or
you
know
their
painter
was-
are
aggressive
that
the
store
has
asked
them
to
move.
G
A
G
My
those
are
two
I
thought
of,
because
I
went
there
and
I.
Yes,
I
think
that
the
business
owners
it
would
be
good
to
hear
from
them,
because
you
know
in
the
not-too-distant
past
we
had
an
unfortunate
incident
with
our
police
and
young
people.
Downtown
Evanston
that
might
some
think
was
prompted
by
our
business
owner.
So
I
would
really
want
to
hear
what
their
suggestions
are.
Because
again,
this
is
maybe,
aside
from
some
of
our
North
Shore
neighbors.
This
is
what
people
experience
when
they
go
downtown
Chicago.
G
This
is
what
people
experience
when
they
go
into
downtown
business
area
to
shop,
because
you
know
panhandlers
do
have
an
audience
there
who
might
contribute
something.
So
you
know
I'm
really
very
opposed
to
us
moving
forward
with
something
that
has
automobiles
that
might
either
just
be
a
small
population
of
people.
I
would
do
I
would
love
to
hear
from
the
police
next
time
in
terms
of
how
many
calls
they
do
get,
or
maybe
your
award
officer
can
put
that
together.
Are
they
getting
calls?
G
A
A
Come
to
one
of
my
board
meetings
when
this
is
on
the
agenda,
because
that's
it's
fun
to
have
you
there,
but
I
think
we
should
move
this
on
to
a
continuing
discussion
item
at
the
committee
and
ask
for
more
information
from
not
only
our
staff
but
also
the
private
organizations
that
will
help
out
with
this
and
downtown
Evanston
and
business
owners.
So
if
that's
ok
with
everyone
burn
me,
yeah
yeah,
ok,.
M
M
So
if
you
guys
can
look
at
item
number
four
crisis
intervention
team,
since
the
last
time
we
met
forty-three
officers
have
now
attended,
the
training
for
officers
are
slotted
to
attend
the
training
in
March
and
it
is
our
expectation
to
have
either
24
to
36
additional
officers
being
trained
through
2018,
so
we
get
seats
as
they
become
available.
So
I
think
that's
a
pretty
good
thing.
I
hope
is
to
get
everybody
in
the
field.
Operation
is
trained
in
this,
but
I
think
we're
making
good
progress.
M
If
you
can
go
to
item
number
five
continue
training
offered
by
dr.
Logan.
For
the
last
time
we
met,
we
completed
that
second
town
hall
meeting,
which
was
on
November
9th,
and
that
topics
was
gangs
drugs
on
solve
homicides.
Our
third
meeting
is
scheduled
in
the
spring
and
that
would
be
to
be
announced
and
by
the
time
of
the
next
HSC
meeting.
I
should
have
that
information.
If
you
can
turn
to
item
number
nine
problem,
17
changes
and
I
know
you
guys
are
aware.
We
have
officers,
assignments
were
update,
updated
on
February
15
2018.
M
We
had
a
retiree
officer,
Jorge,
Gonzalez,
retired
officer,
Weidman
was
transferred
to
the
tactical
Bureau
and
we
have
two
new
officers
that
joined
the
team
officer
DeLeon,
who
was
a
20
year
veteran?
He
will
be
assigned
to
the
foot
patrol
unit
taking
place
of
our
officer,
Weidman
and
officer.
Gregory
Gregory
will
be
assigned
to
the
eighth
ward
and
he's
also
20
year
veteran
and
he's
taken
a
place
of
the
retired
Jorge
Gonzalez.
M
Okay.
Next,
let's
turn
to
item
11,
which
is
the
body
cameras.
Since
we
last
met
120
body,
cameras
are
now
in
use
file,
field,
operations,
personnel
and
special
operations,
so
fill
personnel
at
the
patrol
units,
the
traffic
officers
and
the
problem-solving
team,
and
these
special
operations
officers
include
both
the
neighbor
neighborhood
enforcement
officers
and
also
the
tactical
unit
and
all
swarm
personnel
have
attended
the
in-service
training
which
took
place
in
January
2018
and
have
it
trained
in
the
usage
of
the
body,
water
cameras.
M
And
finally,
let's
turn
to
25,
which
is
Alexa
Paul
Alexa
Paul
is
the
system
that
we
use
now
and
has
our
rules
and
regulations.
Alexa
people
also
provides
us
with
a
daily
training
bulletins
and
that's
to
be
completed
by
all
officers.
Basically,
what
that
is
every
day
we
have
a
training,
and
it's
just
you
know
something
simple
as
a
question
like,
for
example,
a
use-of-force
topic
or
pursuit
vehicle
pursuit,
which
you
can't
do
what
you're
not
supposed
to
doing.
M
M
M
Of
force
committee,
and
actually
that's
something
that
our
commander
right
over
here
is
every
time
there's
a
use
of
force.
Incident
likes.
I
use
me,
for
example,
I'm
in
charge
of
field
operations,
so
what
they
do
any
use
of
force.
We
have
a
committee
and
it
consists
of
a
sworn
officer
like
a
patrol
officer.
Then
you
have
a
sergeant
a
commander
and
a
deputy
chief
before
it
gets
through
the
chief.
They
do
a
comprehensive
review
of
all
the
you
know
the
incident
and
what
was
done
right.
M
G
A
A
Okay,
no
other
comments
on
that.
Okay,
we're
going
to
hh5,
which
is
the
taxi
program.
Update
and
I've,
got
one
person
signed
up
Susan
Cherico,
who
wanted
to
speak
to
that.
N
Good
evening
my
name
is
Susan
Chaco
and
I
am
a
resident
of
Evanston
from
the
sixth
Ward,
and
also
chairperson
of
the
age-friendly
Evanston
task
force
and
so
well.
Firstly,
I
really
wanted
to
commend
city
staff,
Audrey
Thompson,
who
went
to
great
lengths
to
gather
input
from
residents
and
users
of
the
current
taxicab
program
through
focus
groups
and
other
meetings,
so
that
the
proposal
that
we
were
looking
at
tonight
really
addresses
the
express
needs
and
concerns
of
older
adults
and
people
with
disabilities
who
live
in
Evanston.
N
So
I'm
here
to
represent
the
task
force
and
to
emphasize
our
strong
support
for
this
revised
taxicab
program
proposal
as
I
think
you
all
know.
Access
to
affordable
transportation
is
really
critical
to
the
health
and
well-being
of
older
adults
and
people
with
disabilities,
so
that
the
revised
program
improves
upon
the
older
taxicab
program
in
a
number
of
ways,
and
it
includes
I
mean
it
offers
an
option
that
eliminates
the
stigma
that's
attached
to
presenting
a
coupon
for
payment.
N
It
also
eliminates
the
restriction
on
destinations
that
the
we
were
part
of
the
older
taxi
program,
and
these
are
complaints
about
the
older
program
that
have
been
expressed
by
many
users,
so
it
makes
it
a
really
a
win
for
older
adults.
In
addition,
it
pays
the
for
the
full
cost
of
the
transportation,
so
it
makes
it
a
win
for
providers
as
well
and,
in
addition,
and
importantly,
I,
think
by
phasing
out
over
time
the
benefit
for
all
residents
over
80,
the
taxpayer.
Funds
are
really
directed
to
those
who
need
it.
N
The
task
force
recognizes,
of
course,
that
there
are
frail
isolated,
older
adults
who
lack
financial
and
social
resources,
and
these
are
the
residents
that
need
our
help
and
the
people
who
will
be
helped
by
this
program
and-
and
we
think
that
in
allocating
city
funds
in
this
way
is
also
then
a
win
for
the
taxpayers
in
Evanston.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
O
O
If
I
can
get
my
clicker
to
work
all
right
here,
we
go
so
since
our
last
meeting
the
aides
for
this
groups
that
we
conducted
as
follows:
I
won't
read
them
for
you,
but
I
will
point
out
that
we
did
two
at
the
levy
Center
and
one
on
the
weekend.
So
we
could
make
sure
that
individuals
who
may
work
or
aren't
able
to
come
during
the
weekday
would
have
an
opportunity
to
come
on
the
weekend
so
from
the
focus
groups
on
what
we
really
learned.
O
Is
that
writers
really
wanted
more
options
as
far
as
where
they
could
go,
and
they
didn't
want
those
options
to
be
I,
guess
decided
by
the
city?
They
want
to
be
able
to
choose
where
they
want
to
go.
We
also
learned
that
if
we
are
going
to
move
forward
eventually
with
a
debit
credit
card
only
program,
we
really
need
to
do
more
education
with
the
users,
and
that
means
you
know
teaching
older
adults
how
to
use
smart
technology
as
well
as
how
to
use
a
debit
or
credit
card.
O
So
then,
instead
of
just
the
one
option
that
we
discussed
in
December,
where
we're
wanting
to
roll
out
temporarily
two
different
options,
and
so
that
first
option
we'll
be
the
debit
credit
card,
and
so
the
city
will
match
the
funds.
And
if
you
look
at
Group
one
and
two
we'll
talk
about
how
much
that
subsidy
will
actually
be
writers
will
pay
the
full
fare
for
whatever
the
ground
transportation
any
ground
transportation
of
their
choice.
However,
they
will
be
able
to
go
to
any
location,
so
any
provider.
O
The
great
thing
about
this
program
is
that
any
unused
funds
can
roll
over
to
the
next
month,
but
the
individual
will
not
be
able
to
stack
funds,
so
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
have
a
thousand
dollars
by
the
end
of
the
month
by
the
end
of
the
year.
So,
whatever
the
two
hundred
and
fifty,
if
that's
the
amount,
it
could
never
be.
O
That
card
can
never
be
over
two
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
the
transfer
car,
the
transportation
debit
card
is
limited
to
transportation,
which
means
you
can't
go
to
the
grocery
store
and
use
it
to
buy.
Grocery
is
just
for
transportation,
and
then
the
transportation
provider
will
not
know
again,
as
Susan
stated
that
the
customer
is
even
on
a
subsidy
from
the
city.
O
It's
just
a
regular
debit
credit
card
and
then,
finally,
if
the
card
is
lost,
it
can
be
replaced
and
that
amount
will
not
be
lost
so
that
amount
will
just
be
transferred
to
the
new
card
which
right
now,
if
you
have
a
cab
coupon
if
it's
lost
its
just
lost,
and
so
the
second
option
is
the
taxicab
coupon.
So
the
difference
will
be
that
the
coupon
will
only
they'll
only
be
able
to
use
it
in
Evanston
and
then
to
go
along
with
the
fifty
fifty
man
from
the
debit
card.
O
So
the
the
user
will
be
allowed
fifteen
to
twenty
five
and,
if
you
remember
the
slide
before
that,
really
will
be
based
on
income,
and
then
we
will
revaluate
in
april
of
2019
just
to
find
out
if
this
is
successful
and
if
we
need
to
make
any
tweaks
to
the
program.
Also,
CJE
will
continue
to
accept
the
coupons
for
individuals
who
need
a
wheelchair,
accessible
ride
and
instead
of
more
of
the
curb
to
curb
their
taxicab
drivers,
provide
CJE
will
offer
door-to-door
and
it
will
be
for
for
the
same
so.
O
O
Also
we'll
roll
the
program
out
in
two
phases
so
for
the
first
phase
will
be
the
current
users.
They
will
be
notified
the
week
of
March
19
and
this
will
be
by
mail
and
those
current
users
will
be
required
to
choose.
So
a
person
will
not
be
able
to
be
on
the
debit
credit
card
and
the
coupon
program.
At
the
same
time,
then,
current
users
may
begin
exchanging
coupons
for
no
additional
cost,
beginning
April
16.
So
then
there
will
be
a
cut-off.
O
So
if
you
have
a
four
dollar
coupon,
you
can
exchange
it
free
of
charge.
Even
though
there's
a
dollar
increase
so
for
a
limited
amount
of
time,
they'll
be
able
to
exchange
it
for
no
cost
and
then
the
second
phase,
all
other
eligible
card
holders
will
be
notified
the
week
of
April
thirtieth,
and
then
we
will
start
going
to
long
term
care
communities
to
start
to
distribute.
So
we
won't
have
an
influx
of
individuals
having
to
come
to
the
levy.
O
Center
will
actually
go
out
to
those
long
term
care
communities
to
distribute
the
cars
or
to
exchange
coupons.
We
will
also
begin
May
with
the
educational
outreach
and
we
will
do
that
in
conjunction
with
the
age-friendly
Evanston
task
force.
We
have
also
been
working
with
First,
Bank
and
Trust,
and
they
have
developed
a
presentation
that
will
really
teach
older
adults
how
to
use
a
debit
card
and
smart
technology.
My
part
of
the
program
or
presentation
will
be
more
so
to
teach
writers
how
to
diversify
their
transportation
options
so
to
use
this
transportation.
O
Okay.
So
for
the
program,
implementation
for
the
debit
credit
card,
all
users
will
be
notified
of
the
new
program
and
this
will
be
for
those
individuals
who
are
current
during
the
week
of
March.
19Th
users
must
decide
if
you
use
our
opps
for
the
debit
or
credit
card
and
has
cab
coupons.
The
user
can
transfer
that
amount
of
the
face
value
of
the
coupons
onto
the
debit
card,
so
they
won't
lose
any
of
their
money,
but
it
cannot
exceed
the
allowable
amount.
O
O
O
They
can
contact
3,
1
1
to
learn
about
their
balance
for
the
the
debit
or
credit
card,
and
the
city
will
develop
a
user
guide
and
FAQ
for
the
new
program.
Once
we
get
it
fully
integrated
again,
we've
talked
about
tipping
before
when
we've
met,
it's
not
required.
We
do
encourage
it.
The
only
difference
is
if
a
person
tips
for
the
coupons
they
have
to
give
in
cash,
so
they
couldn't
give
a
second
coupon.
They
would
have
the
tip
in
cash.
O
A
F
O
F
O
We
won't
move
that,
but
currently,
if
a
person
is
80
or
above
okay,
that
we,
regardless
of
income,
they
are
able
to
participate
and
buy
coupons
for
the
four
dollars.
Okay,
so
that's
the
group
that
your
variety
so
in
January
we're
looking
to
do
away
with
that
part
of
the
program
not
saying
that
an
eighty
plus
will
not
be
able
to
participate.
They
will
just
have
to
provide
proof
of
income
right.
G
G
O
O
And
so
you
know
I,
don't
want
to
say
that
a
person
will
never
be
able
to
use
the
debit
card
in
order
to
pay
for
services
through
CJE,
because
right
now
there
there's
just
not
enough
wheelchair
accessible
vehicles,
and
especially
when
we
did
the
focus
group
at
over
the
rainbow
a
hundred
percent
of
the
individuals
who
were
present
one
at
the
debit
card
instead
of
the
coupon.
And
that's
because
not
that
they
want
to
use
CJE
because
that's
still
a
limited
amount
of
time
only
10:00
to
2:00
Monday
through
Friday.
O
But
they
want
the
debit
because
they
would
be
able
to
use
different
types
of
transportation
so
and
then
they'd
be
able
to
go
anywhere
so
for
right
now,
if
they
use
pays
paratransit,
they
have
to
be
somewhere
two
hours
before
they're
able
to
come
back.
So
if
they
go
to
the
bank,
they
have
to
sit
there
for
two
hours
before
they're
able
to
come
back,
so
they
would
be
able
to
use
programs
like
uber
way,
which
is
uber
wheelchair
accessible
vehicles
instead,
so
they
all
wanted.
O
Also
outside
of
Evanston,
because
remember
the
coupon
will
be
limited,
and
so,
since
its
limited
you
know,
most
people
want
to
go
to
Chicago
is,
you
know,
is
what
we
found
to
visit
family
and
friends,
and
that's
currently
not
an
option.
So,
with
this
program,
they'll
be
able
to
go
anywhere,
they
choose
alright,.
N
O
O
You
know
somewhere
to
visit
our
family
if
we
decide
to
use
our
subsidy
just
for
that
particular
month,
and
you
know
we
can't
say
only
for
one
month
and
not
another
month,
so
we
just
decided
to
open
it
up
to
anywhere
that
they
want
to
go
because
there's
really
no
way
to
determine
that
with
the
cart
when
they
swipe.
You
know,
they're,
just
swiping
for
transportation
resources,
so
we
don't
really
know
where
they're
going
and
where
we're
not
wanting
to
really
know
we're
wanting
to
leave
that
up
to
them.
A
O
P
Madam
chair
and
members
of
the
committee,
I
am
Karen,
hawk
assistant
director
of
community
services,
an
answer
to
your
question.
What
when
Audrey
is
saying
in
Illinois?
Typically,
what
she
is
talking
about
is
Amtrak
or
the
Metro,
and
so
typically,
when
they're
swiping,
they
swipe
in
Illinois
to
get
their
tickets.
So
even
if
they
were
to
take
their
ticket
and
go
to
Minnesota
as
long
as
they're,
you
know,
subsidy
covered
it,
then
that
would
be
allowed,
but
then,
like
she
said
once
they
spend
their
subsidy.
A
A
I
Good
evening
my
name
is
Laurie
Levin
and
I'm,
a
lawyer
for
a
young
adult
whose
Evanston
resident
and
his
parents
are
evidenced
in
residents
and,
first
of
all,
I
just
want
to
commend
alderman
Fleming
and
this
committee
for
looking
into
this
issue,
but
the
issues
a
little
bit
broader
than
what
you
may
think.
My
particular
client,
without
it
you'll
understand
why,
without
getting
into
exactly
what
occurred,
was
ticketed
for
an
ordinance
violation
that
was
a
prank
shortly
after
my
client
turned
18.
I
It's
ironic
that
Evanston,
which
is
so
progressive
in
so
many
ways,
is
actually
with
respect
to
him.
If
he
had
done
the
same
action
and
gotten
a
ticket
in
Skokie
or
Lincoln,
would
it
would
not
be
publicly
on
the
internet?
It
would
not
be
google
ball.
Does
that
word
Google
or
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
search
on
the
Internet
when
you
looked
at
the
person's
name
and
the
docket
would
not
be
there,
and
the
docket
in
this
particular
instance
is
there.
I
It
makes
it
look
like
it's
something
horrible
without
the
disposition
that
it
was
a
small
fine
if
in
fact,
you're
ticketed
for
an
ordinance
violation
in
Skokie
or
in
link
avoid
you
actually
go
to
court
in
Skokie.
The
Corporation
Counsel
routinely
offers
people
between
the
age
of
18
and
21
community
service,
and
what
a
for
retail
theft
for
trespass
for
any
number
of
ordinance
violations,
as
opposed
to
the
violations
of
the
statute.
I
The
cases
are
then
dismissed
if
you
complete
them,
and
it's
expungeable,
and
until
the
legislature
a
year
ago,
allowed
Cook
County
to
have
free
expungement,
judge,
Sully,
Shelley,
sucker
Dermer
up
in
Skokie,
the
presiding
judge
was
waiving
the
fees
for
all
these
young
adults
for
ordinance
violations
in
Evanston,
it's
on
the
docket
and
it
doesn't
go
away,
and
we
were
told
by
mr.
Ferrara
that
this
was
up
today.
So
we
wanted
to
raise
that
issue
to
you.
So
it's
not
just
the
arrest
records
which,
according
to
your
packet,
shows
that
is
not
Google
ball.
I
So
someone
who
gets
a
ticket
is
in
a
worse
position
than
someone
who's
being
arrested,
and
we
would
be
asking
that
you
would
take
that
up
and
that
you
would
make
it
so
that
these
dockets,
after
a
certain
period
of
time,
are
no
longer
necessarily
public
records.
There's
no
reason
to
know
that
citizen
Y
got
a
ticket
for
trespass
or
shoplifting
or
panhandling,
and
then
have
that
maybe
affect
their
future
and
their
future
employment,
which
is
what's
happening
to
my
client.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
G
This
yeah,
thank
you,
I
would
love
to
talk
to
you
more
about
that,
but
so
this
issue
came
up
from
me.
Actually,
the
clerk
when
we
were
going
through
the
FOIA
information
brought
to
my
attention
our
attention
about
this,
the
police,
records
and
I'm.
You
know
I
know
we
have
to
produce
them
and
I
have
my
own
thoughts
about
that,
but
we
have
to
be
within
the
law
to
do
so.
G
However,
up
until
I
and
I
up
until
I
brought
this
issue
up
to
the
corporation
council,
we
had
police
records
online
back
from
2000
I
think
2003.
We
have
now
updated
that
so
they're
only
online
for
the
last
three
years,
but
my
question
and
concern
is
one
aside
from
releasing
them
which
we
have
to
do
under
for
state
law,
whatever
it
is,
I'm,
not
sure
why
we
keep
them
online
at
all.
So
we
release
them.
You
can
get
them
emailed
to
you.
G
Our
memo
says
that
these
are
not
Google
double
which
they
are
so
I
spent.
Several
I
picked
I
went
through
these
and
I
picked.
Several
random
people
from
2015
from
2016
I
copied
their
name
out
of
the
PDF
document.
I
opened,
another
page,
I
went
to
Google
I
put
their
name
in
there
and
I
just
put
Evanston
police
and
sure
enough
for
each
person.
It
comes
up
the
PDF
links
right
back
to
this
record.
G
G
Many
of
our
reporters
put
it
out
for
public
knowledge
and-
and
we
have
no
idea
what
happens
to
these
people
after
that,
so
some
of
them
might
be
expunged,
some
of
them
probably
fine,
now
I'm
guilty
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
I'm
a
big
believer
in
once.
A
person
has
committed
whatever
crime
they
have
and
served
whatever
time
we
paid,
whatever
fear,
whatever
happened
from
there.
There's
no
reason,
particularly
for
us
as
a
city,
to
continue
to
kind
of
advertise.
G
That
I
mean
that's
a
that's
a
mistake
that
that
they
made
and
we
hope,
they've
moved
on
to
be
productive
members
of
society.
But
there's
no
reason
for
us
to
keep
that
information
there,
and
now
that
I
have
gone
through
this
search
and
know
that
these
things
are
available
via
google
search
I'm
even
more
concerned,
because
if
someone
goes
to
look
for
a
job
or
whatever
they
might
be
doing,
and
you,
google
their
name
and
put
in
police
arrest
or
whatever
you
put
in
there's
a
chance.
G
You're
gonna
find
this
and
I
think
that's
in
my
respect.
You
know
irresponsible
for
us
to
the
city
that
we
are
putting
this
out
there
for
their
internet
for
everybody
to
see.
So.
My
initial
concern,
as
it
says
in
the
memo
was
that
I
mean
I,
would
say:
I've
looked
at
Skokie
and
what
they
have
up.
I've
looked
at
the
city
of
Chicago.
G
They
have
a
database
where
you
have
to
have
some
kind
of
identify
and
information
to
put
in
to
find
whatever
the
police
record
is,
and
I
would
like
us
to
take
these
down
and
then
to
look
at
what
how
we
need
to
move
forward
with
us.
I
mean
the
archive
daily
bulletins
to
be
up
just
for
the
calendar
year.
I
think
are
planning
to
be
up
for
an
I'm.
G
You
know
90
days
back
are
plenty
considering,
as
as
memo
said,
we
we
email
it
out
to
5000
people
if
you're
really
that
interested
in
who
gets
arrested.
You
can
find
that
out,
but
there's
really
legally
no
need
for
us
to
have
these
online
in
the
manner
that
we
are
considering.
I've
looked
at
other
cities
who
ask
this
attorney
I
said:
does
not
publish
them
this
way.
So
I,
don't
think
that
that
makes
us.
G
F
It's
too
bad
that
alderman
Braithwaite
isn't
here
with
us
this
evening,
because
I
would
think
that
would
be
particularly
interesting
for
the
committee
that
he's
convened
to
look
at
alternatives
to
arrest
that
we
are
working
on
to
come
up
with
ways
that
we
can
help
make
sure
that
young
people
don't
end
up
with
some
kind
of
a
record
that
prevents
them
from
getting
a
job
later
in
life
and
leading
successful
lives.
So
I,
I,
guess
I
would
second
alderman
Fleming's,
requests
and
suggestions
here
that
we
try
to
work
on
meshing,
meshing.
A
I,
thank
you
and
I
agree
with
that.
Unfortunately,
alderman
Braithwaite
was
detained
and
couldn't
be
here
tonight.
So
my
suggestion
is
that
we
keep
this
in
committee,
all
the
revelled,
your
chair,
beginning
in
April
and
in
charge
of
the
agenda
you
can
take
over
on
that
you
can
have
all
of
it.
Yes,
if.
A
A
G
Make
a
quick
announcement
of
clinda
has
not
called
the
wards,
but
I
won't
be
here
for
college
wards.
I
just
want
to
make
a
congratulation
and
to
an
e
ths
senior
and
gave
a
Mitchell
in
who
broke
the
record
at
e
th
s
for
running
the
mile
in
under
five
minutes.
I
will
make
a
person
who
disclaimer
that
she's
my
little
cousin
so
we're
super
proud
of
her.