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A
Good
evening
this
is
the
regular
meeting
of
the
human
services
committee
and
we
have
a
quorum,
we're
missing
two
of
our
members
tonight,
alderman
grove
and
all
reversed,
not
with
us.
But
could
we
have
a
motion
for
the
approval
of
the
minutes
of
march
11th.
A
It's
been
moved
in
second:
are
there
any
additions
corrections,
not
all
in
favor,
any
opposed
on
citizens
comments?
Tonight
I
am
going
to.
A
Have
citizens
comments
after
we
have
the
reports,
so
if
you
signed
up
for
a
an
agenda
item,
if
there's
no
agenda
item
by
your
name,
I
have
to
assume
that
you
are
speaking
on
a
non-agenda
item.
A
A
Vicky
petsenko
alicia
kaplan
alisa
ginny
grit.
Well,
it
doesn't
say
that
okay,
your
care
yeah
all
right,
jenny
is
here
too,
and
jenny
is
care
as
well.
Okay
and
jeffrey,
mount
mallow,
cara.
A
Emma
smith,
I'm
assuming
scare,
I
know
her
and
benjamin
schuler
yeah.
No,
it
says
anna
michelle,
never
mind.
I
see
it
kathy
roberts
and
asher
biedemann
bieterman
tear
okay,
so
we
have
no
non-agenda
items.
Everybody
else
has
signed
up
for
an
agenda
item
all
right.
Let's
items
for
discussion
tonight,
we
first
have
the
township
monthly
bills.
Is
there
a
motion
for
approval,
I'd.
A
Okay,
are
there
any
questions
on
the
bills?
If
not,
it's
been
moved
in.
Second,
all
in
favor
aye
any
opposed
okay
items
for
consideration.
The
first
item
is
hh1
review
of
the
february
and
march
police
complaints.
A
I
see
no
lights,
so
all
in
favor
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
Then.
The
next
item
is
the
animal,
the
evanston
animal
care
and
control
operations,
and
I'm
going
to
ask
the
city
manager
if
he'll
come
first
and
we
not
go
through
everything.
A
C
D
Members
of
the
committee
good
evening,
you
have
before
you
on
page
92
of
your
packet,
a
communication
from
me
following
up
from
your
meeting
last
week,
and
if
I,
if
I
may
I'd
like
to
read
through
the
recommendations
that
the
council
received,
this
report
approved
the
city
of
evanston.
D
Animal
control
policy,
approve
the
volunteer
animal
organization,
partnership
policy,
direct
the
city
manager
to
create
an
evanston
animal
shelter
fund
to
receive
donations
for
the
animal
shelter,
introduce
ordinance,
number
54014,
creating
the
evanston
board
of
animal
care
and
control
to
receive
and
file
report
from
the
corporation
council
on
legal
options
regarding
donations,
received
to
support
the
youngston
animal
shelter
and
to
provide
direction
to
the
city
manager
regarding
city,
reimbursement
of
costs
regarding
volunteer
rescue
activities.
D
So
I
think
this
is
consistent
with
the
direction.
From
your
last
meeting,
there
have
been
some
changes
made
to
the
animal
control
policy.
We've
added
an
additional
section
regarding
cats,
we've
also
added
some
additional
language
regarding
the
use
of
donations,
which
is
in
section
7
of
the
policy
the
regarding
the
animal
shelter
fund.
We
would
move
forward
with
the
creation
of
that
with
the
council's
a
minute
order.
D
You
have
ordinance
54014
the
board
of
animal
care
and
control
and
again
I
think
the
committee
talked
through
that
at
some
length
at
your
last
meeting
and
then
the
volunteer
animal
organization
policy
that
is
again
consistent
with
your
direction.
From
the
last
meeting.
The
committee
also
has
to
have
to
follow
up
on
a
few
additional
issues:
there's
a
memorandum
from
the
corporation
council
on
the
care
financial
issues
and
then
also.
D
Finally,
the
committee
asked
that
staff
consider
reimbursement
to
interested
volunteers
who
have
spent
their
own
funds
to
support
operations
at
the
animal
shelter
not
supported
by
care,
and
this
is
something
really
outside
of
a
staff's
jurisdiction,
but
if
the
council
would
provide
direction
if
you'd
like
us
to
do
some
additional
work
on
this
find
a
funding
source
identify
dollar
amount,
find
a
funding
source
would
be
happy
to
do
that
so
manager.
With
that.
D
I
think
then.
The
second
piece
of
this
is
the
position
of
care
moving
forward
at
your
last
meeting.
They
did
not
choose
to
elaborate
more
than
on
an
email
that
was
sent,
but
since
then
they
have
provided
a
memorandum
which
is
on
page
94
of
your
packet,
which
goes
through
their
position
as
where
they
are
on
things.
Unfortunately,
given
my
read
of
the
letter,
I'm
still
not
quite
sure
where
things
are
at
with
care.
So
there
are
two
other
recommendations.
D
If
kara
wishes
to
negotiate
a
new
one-year
agreement,
I'm
asking
that
I'd
be
directed
to
negotiate
such
an
agreement
and
to
come
back
to
the
council
on
april
28th,
with
the
with
the
agreement
for
review
and
approval,
if
cara
declines,
to
negotiate
a
new
agreement,
it's
recommended
that
the
council
authorize
me
to
issue
notice
to
care
ceasing
the
relationship
with
the
city
at
the
evanston
animal
shelter
and
to
work
with
care
to
vacate
the
animal
shelter
no
later
than
5
pm
on
friday
may
9th,
then,
to
direct
me
to
issue
a
request
for
qualifications
to
volunteer
animal
organizations
to
express
interest
in
working
at
the
evidence,
animal
shelter
no
later
than
friday
april
25th
and
then
to
direct
me
to
return
to
the
council
with
an
update
at
the
next
council
meeting
on
april
28th.
D
So
I
I
think
the
policies
and
procedures
based
on
the
committee's
last
discussion,
I
think,
are
pretty
straightforward.
I
think,
then
the
question
is
what
is
our
next
step
as
the
city
moving
forward
and
with
the
communication
from
care?
Again,
I'm
not
quite
sure
what
their
desire
is.
So
my
hope
is
that
perhaps
the
council
can
read
more
into
that
than
than
I
was
able
to.
D
Certainly
their
representatives
hear
from
care
who
may
wish
to
elaborate
on
their
their
communication,
but
I
would
hope
that
the
council
of
the
council
committee
this
evening
would
either
direct
that
we
move
forward
with
a
new
one-year
agreement
or
direct
that
we
move
forward
in
another
direction.
I
think
that
we've
spent
committee
has
been
very
good
about
talking
about
these
issues.
Studying
these
issues,
there's
been
a
subcommittee
that
has
talked
about
these
issues.
I
think
pretty
much.
A
I
think
we're
going
to
at
the
request
of
nalimum.
We
had
you
go
first
because
now
that
you'd
like
to
hear
from
the
people
citizens
who
signed
up
this
evening
and
then
I
will
have
questions
and
con
or
discussion
with
you
afterwards,
very
good.
Thank
you.
Okay.
Is
that
the
way
you
want
to
go
almond,
okay,
all
right!
Fine!
We
have
21
people
signed
up.
I
am
going
to
I'm
going
to
extend
it,
not
15
minutes
I'll.
A
Give
you
a
little
bit
more
time,
we'll
at
least
give
everybody
at
least
a
minute
this
week
to
do
this,
because
we've
done
this
over.
As
you
all
know,
over
and
over
and
over
again,
I
think
we've
heard
it.
We've
gotten
lots
and
lots
of
emails
over
the
weekend.
I
know
that
some
of
the
council
members
have
replied.
A
A
I
think
we
said
this
at
the
last
meeting
how
much
we
as
council
members
appreciate
all
of
the
volunteer
time
on
that
and
all
of
the
work
that
care
has
put
in
over
the
years.
So
I
don't
want
that
to
get
lost.
A
I
I
really
don't
want
that
to
get
lost
with
that
said,
we
have
a
full
agenda
tonight,
as
you
can
see,
but
we'll
try
to
give
everybody
a
minute
if
you
want
to
yield
your
time
to
someone
else,
that's
fine,
but
we're
going
to
stick
to
this
so
that
we
can
get
this
taken
care
of
tonight.
Okay,
so
the
first
person
on
our
list
is
pauline
yearwood,
I'm
going
to
call
up
four
people
at
a
time
we
have
then
trish
parma
judy,
vogt
and
then
vicky
pacinco.
E
E
E
All
of
the
volunteers
do
what
they
do
solely
because
of
their
passion
for
animals,
and
I
don't
know
how
an
organization
like
this,
a
small
grassroots
organization,
composed
of
a
couple
hundred
very
passionate
people,
suddenly
got
to
be
the
enemy.
I
don't
understand,
I
think
it's
a
terrible
injustice
and
I
would
like
to
just
say
that
I
think
that
that
care
doesn't
deserve
the
reputation
that
it's
gotten.
A
F
F
I
try
to
stay
out
of
this
because
I
like
dogs
and
people,
not
so
much
but
after
alderman
braithwight's
visit
to
karen,
and
I
really
do
appreciate
you
taking
the
time
to
look
at
both
sides.
You
left
us
with
a
question.
That's
really
been
bothering
me
and
the
question
was:
why
haven't
we
stood
up
and
defended
ourselves
against
the
things
that
were
not
true
that
were
being
said,
so
that
bothered
me
enough
to
let
to
try
and
explain
to
you
guys
who
we
are?
F
Okay,
as
the
people
that
take
care
of
these
dogs
when
it
was
too
cold
for
your
children
in
evanston
to
go
to
school.
We
were
at
the
shelter,
because
if
we
don't
go
to
the
shelter
they
don't
eat,
they
don't
get
fed,
they
don't
get
loved
when
they
were
outside
in
this
cold
and
only
out
there
for
a
minute,
because
that's
all
they
could
tolerate
when
they
went
three
pawed.
F
F
We
set
up
a
kiddie
pool
and
we
bring
in
our
box
fans
from
home
to
cross
breeze
them
to
keep
them
comfortable.
So,
given
all
of
that,
the
lie
that
was
really
stuck
in
my
crawl
was,
if
I
am
willing
to
risk
frostbite
on
my
hands,
to
keep
these
paws
warm.
Why
in
the
world,
would
you
think
and
believe
that
I
would
take
a
dog
bed
away
from
a
dog
and
make
him
uncomfortable
on
purpose?
I'm.
A
G
My
name
is
judy
voigt,
I'm
a
friday
night
cat
volunteer
and
at
work
today.
I
was
just
trying
to
think
of
things
that
I
could
say
just
isolated
incidences
of
things
that
you
probably
aren't
aware
that
we
deal
with.
For
instance,
we've
had
animals
left
at
the
door
where
they'll
be
left
with
one
cat
alive,
one
cat
dead
and
a
bag.
G
G
And
most
of
us
have
full-time
jobs,
so
we're
you
know
we're
doing
this
on
our
own
free
time
working
hard
under
under
stressful
conditions
and
a
building,
that's
really
not
suitable
to
be
a
sheltered
facility.
G
Last
summer,
on
a
friday
night
I
came
in
for
the
shift
and
the
chief
warden
had
taken
all
of
our
cat
climbers
and
lined
them
outside
to
be
thrown
out,
which
led
a
lot
of
us
volunteers
to
retrieve
them
and
we
put
them
an
eye.
So
iso
is
a
isolated
area
where
we
have
cats
that
are,
you
know
either
haven't
been
vet,
checked
or,
and
we
also
use
it
for
storage,
and
so
we
were
trying
to
find
a
place
where
we
could
put
the
climbers
where
this
wouldn't
happen.
Again.
G
H
We're
going
to
try
to
limit
the
number
of
speakers,
so
we
will
keep
it
short
for
you.
My
name
is
vicky
pacinco,
okay
and
I
live
at
503
west
oakdale
in
chicago.
I
think
what
you're
hearing
here
tonight
is
sort
of
a
picture
of
the
dysfunction.
That's
at
the
shelter
right
now-
and
I
know
you
guys
have
heard
it
before
most
of
us
have
been
in
some
kind
of
toxic
relationship
in
our
life
and
it's
difficult
for
these
two
sides
to
say:
hey
this
just
isn't
working
and
we
need
to
walk
away.
H
I
think
that's
where
we
are
in
this
situation.
The
city
and
the
care
leadership
have
had
a
volatile
relationship
for
years.
This
isn't
about
the
volunteers
that
go
walk
the
dogs
we're
in
that
category
too.
Most
of
us
as
volunteers
we've
been
told
for
years
that
the
city
keeps
care
from
being
the
organization
it
wants
to
be
they've,
been
saving
money
so
that
they
could
go
outside
of
evanston
and
build
their
own
shelter.
They
have
rebranded
themselves
toward
that
goal.
H
They
have
tried
to
blame
us,
the
dissident
volunteers,
for
ruining
their
relationship
with
the
city,
but
all
we've
really
done
is
shown
that
you
can
work
with
the
city
if
you
have
a
spirit
of
cooperation
and
that
it's
possible
to
have
that
with
the
city.
So
please
take
the
actions
necessary
to
end
this
tonight
and
let
the
shelter
move
forward.
Thank
you.
Thank.
I
J
On
behalf
of
all
of
the
volunteers
here
I
just
wanted
to
thank
the
committee
and
the
city
staff
for
all
the
time
and
hard
work
they've
put
into
this
issue.
We
know
you
have
things
to
worry
about
other
than
the
animal
shelter
and
we've
been
so
impressed
with
the
responsiveness
and
concern
of
everyone
in
the
city.
It
has
truly
made
us
proud
to
live
in
evanston.
J
K
As
I
wrote
to
you
in
an
email
over
the
weekend,
I
would
like
the
committee
at
this
time
to
vote
to
recommend
to
the
city
to
obtain
a
second
legal
opinion.
I
read
the
memo
written
by
the
corporation
council
and
he
failed
to
consider
that
what
this
was
was
a
partnership
and
like
the
breakup
of
any
partnership,
there
has
to
be
a
means
for
dividing
up
the
assets.
There's
no
question
that
this
was
a
partnership
care
in
documents
authored
by
its
board
referred
to
this.
K
As
a
partnership,
I've
already
sent
you
a
letter
and
sent
you
the
documents
that
I
think
substantiate
that
care
was
the
fundraising
arm
of
the
animal
shelter.
So
in
this
partnership,
the
city
provided
the
shelter
and
provided
some
costs
care
provided
other
costs
and
also
the
volunteer
hours,
but
what
care
was
for?
The
shelter
was
the
fundraising
arm
of
the
shelter.
K
So,
for
example,
if
people
came
in
with
checks,
they
would
be
told
to
cross
out
evanston
animal
shelter
and
write
in
care
if
they
wanted
to
support
the
humane
activities
going
on
at
the
shelter.
So
someone
has
to
wade
through
this
partnership
breakup
and
divvy
up
fairly
the
assets,
because,
as
the
fundraising
arm
of
of
the
shelter,
they
were
the
fundraising
arm,
people
were
contributing
to
what
they
believed
was
the
shelter
and,
in
fact,
on
the
strut
for
strays,
2014,
which
is
taking
place
in
may
it
says,
care
a
unique
shelter.
K
A
Oh
okay
and
jeffrey
mallow,
okay,.
L
Good
evening
my
name
is
jeffrey
mallow.
I
live
at
2315
hartzel
street
in
oldham
attendance
award,
my
wife,
who
was
here
ann
mallow
volunteered
at
the
shelter
for
eight
years,
working
with
cats
until
health
issues
prevented
her
from
being
on
site.
During
that
time
she
founded
the
medical
program
for
cats
and
was
its
director.
She
also
initiated
the
trap,
neuter
release
program
for
feral
cats.
I
assisted
her
on
various
occasions
with
the
dogs
and
the
cats
and
an
occasional
goose.
L
L
None
of
them
has
questioned
either
the
commitment
or
integrity
of
the
other
volunteers.
We
are
sure
that
the
board
members
themselves
are
committed
to
the
animals
as
volunteers.
It
is
their
behavior
as
board
members
that
we
find
so
problematic
anne
and
I
are
among
the
donors
to
the
fund
that
now
appears
to
exceed
one
million
dollars.
We
were
told
that
we
were
contributing
to
an
entity
called
care
for
the
evanston
animal
shelter.
L
Why
has
the
care
board
rebuffed
offers
to
volunteer
aaron,
crusher
and
joyce
bersadi?
Who,
with
anne,
were
there
at
the
beginning
of
care,
have
been
told
they
are
no
longer
welcome.
Our
neighbors
college
college-age
daughter,
who
asked
to
volunteer
with
the
dogs
was
rebuffed.
Care
has
ignored
my
wife's
countless
offers
orally
and
in
writing
to
foster
cats.
I
hope
that
this
is
the
last
meeting
of
this
committee
on
this
topic.
If
I
may
paraphrase
alderman
fisk
at
the
last
meeting,
let's
stop
kicking
us
down
the
road.
Let
this
be
the
end
of
the
road.
A
Thank
you,
erica
brown.
M
Thank
you
I'll
try
to
keep
this
very
brief.
I
really
just
want
to
say
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
most
important
thing
is
the
care
of
the
animals.
You
know
evanston's
homeless
and
unwanted
animals.
It
doesn't
matter
what
agency
really
manages
those
needs
and
facilitates
the
adoptions
as
long
as
they're
doing
a
good
and
fair
job.
M
It's
time
for
the
city
to
make
a
decision
on
which
agency
will
best
fulfill
those
needs
we'll
be
able
to
work
with
the
city,
the
police
department
and
the
animal
control
officers
within
the
city's
new
standards
of
care
and
operation,
and
that
this
agency
will
share
the
care,
will
care
for
evanston's,
homeless
and
unwanted
animals.
Agencies
should
be
able
to
successfully
manage
that
all
the
lives
are
treated
with
respect
and
compassion,
and
they
are
all
afforded
the
same
opportunity
to
have
a
successful
life.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
thank
you
and
marlo.
Okay,
steve
schaiber.
A
A
N
N
Just
briefly
mention
that
if
I
can
get
it
on
my
phone
here-
and
it
just
says,
are
you
talking
about
the
policy
yeah
cat
and
kitten
enrichment
while
kendall
didn't
isolation
or
quarantine,
cats
and
kittens
have
limited
handling
contact,
although
they
have
some
interaction
with
people
as
staff
and
patrons
walk
through
the
area
usually
responding
to
the
animals?
By
talking
to
them,
I
think
they
really
need
to
kind
of
remove
that,
because
that's
kind
of
a
cold-hearted
way
to
discuss
our
cats,
and
I
think
what
they
have
afterwards
is
better.
N
N
There
are
places
like
tree
house
who
are
very
familiar
with
with
feral
cats,
but
they're
going
to
tell
you
how
to
do
it
and
they're
going
to
give
you
the
trap,
but
then
you
work
with
the
public
or
whoever
it
is,
and
how
to
do
that.
Okay,
they're
not
going
to
take
the
cat
in
also
if
it's
an
unsocialized
cat,
that's
been
living
in
someone's
house.
We've
had
some
great
success,
socializing
those
cats
and
kittens.
So
that's
a
possibility
to
do
right
at
our
shelter.
You
don't
have
to
send
them
out.
N
N
As
far
as
us,
you
know
having
to
leave
in
another
place
coming
in,
and
also
it's
been
very
made
made
clear
that
we
keep
our
money
so
ever
whoever
comes
in
has
to
have
the
money
ready
to
go
and
the
volunteers,
so
whether
the
agreement
addresses
the
good
transition
there
as
far
as
you
know,
leaving
by
may
9th,
but
you're
still
looking
at
proposals
april
28th.
Okay,
thank
you.
All
right,
thank
you
all.
A
Right
and
berkeley
and
then
emma
emma
smith,
you
were
with
the
other
group.
Did
you
hear
your
time.
A
Oh,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
sorry
you're
right,
I'm
sorry
so
john
and
then
hold
on
a
virginia
man.
Then
judy
rosenthal
and
gail
levinger.
Those
will
be
the
next
speakers.
O
I'm
john
crushel,
I'm
an
evanston
resident
I've
been
following
this
on
the
patch.
I
wasn't
at
the
last
meeting,
I'd
like
to
state
that
you
know.
You've
got
a
lot
of
great
troops,
sir.
It
seems
like
the
problems
with
management,
I
mean
obviously
a
lack
of
governance
or
oversight,
they're,
not
non-cooperative
board.
I
guess
you
might
say,
and
I
would
hope
that
everyone
gets
this
thing
resolved
today
and
sets
it
to
rest
with
the
proper
accounting.
So
the
people
who
gave
funds
those
donor
directed
funds
are
properly
used.
P
Thank
you,
virginia
man,
3004
normandy
place,
I'm
not
a
volunteer
at
the
shelter,
I'm
just
a
taxpayer
and
a
donor,
and
I
am
extremely
concerned
as
a
taxpayer
that
for
years
the
city
has
paid
for
various
funds
to
be
used
at
the
shelter,
whether
it's
for
food
for
medical
care,
other
things
at
the
shelter
while
this
organization
sits
on
1.3
million
every
time
I
come
to
one
of
these
meetings.
I
hear
about
volunteers
using
their
own
resources.
P
Last
week
we
heard
about
volunteers,
who
spent
more
than
ten
thousand
dollars
out
of
their
own
pocket
for
medical
care.
Tonight
we
heard
from
the
people
supporting
care's
position
talk
about
how
they
bring
in
box
fans
from
their
home,
how
they
bring,
in
other
things,
from
their
home
to
provide
for
these
animals.
This
is
wrong
and
whatever
happens
going
forward.
P
I
hope
that
the
city
will
make
certain
that
something
is
done
to
reimburse
the
volunteers
and
to
reimburse
the
city
and
to
make
sure
that
going
forward
if
care
is
part
of
this,
that
they
spend
the
funds
that
they
have
that
have
been
donated
to
them
to
for
the
benefit
of
the
evanston
animal
shelter.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Q
Hi,
my
name
is
judy
rosenthal
I've
been
a
cat
volunteer
at
care
for
almost
nine
years,
I'm
also
a
cat
volunteer
trainer.
In
addition
to
my
shift,
I
also
participate
in
tabling
events
and
do
fundraising
activities
for
care.
I
also
want
to
address
the
terrible
alignment
that
has
been
aimed
at
care
during
last
week's
speaker's
comments.
There
were
a
bunch
of
times
when
I
wanted
to
scream
out
you're
lying.
It's
absolutely
not
true.
So
tonight,
quietly
I'll
respond
to
two
of
the
comments.
Q
Q
This
is
so
far
from
the
true.
If,
if
she
actually
knew
anything
about
our
organization's
practices,
she
would
know
that
each
animal's
health
is
a
priority
to
us.
Volunteers
are
taught
to
watch
for
telltale
signs
of
illness
and
to
inform
the
medical
director
who
always
follows
up
immediately:
overprotective
parents.
We
observe
our
cats
with
the
utmost
diligence
and
their
health
issues
are
addressed
always
immediately
in
the
second
instance,
I
again
listened
with
with
restraint
to
a
care
volunteer
who
said
that,
as
long
as
care
stayed
at
the
shelter,
the
animals
would
be
in
danger.
Q
Q
R
I'm
gail
levinger.
I
live
in
the
seventh
ward
on
simpson
street.
I'm
a
25
plus
year
resident
of
the
city
of
evanson.
I've
been
a
dog
adoption
counselor
at
care
for
more
than
21
years,
I'm
also
a
current
member
of
the
care
board
and
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
board
at
this
meeting.
So
chairman
holmes,
I'm
asking
for
a
little
longer
period
so
that
I
can
present
the
information
that
this
committee
has
been
asking
for
from
care
go
ahead.
Thank
you
very
much.
R
R
I
would
like
to
address
three
major
issues.
First,
I
would
like
to
talk
about
some
clarifications
that
we
need
in
to
know
in
these
processes.
Second,
I'd
like
to
present
some
concerns.
We
have
about
the
draft
policies
themselves
and,
finally,
I
want
to
address
some
unintended
consequences
of
these
policies.
R
R
Our
understanding
of
this
process
was
that
there
was
going
to
be
a
policy
presented
and
care
was
going
to
be
told
to
take
it
or
leave
it.
If
there
are
things
that
are
open
for
negotiation,
we
would
like
to
have
more
information
about
what
we
can
actually
negotiate
and
in
what
context
we
can
sit
down
and
reasonably
negotiate.
R
One
is
called
the
policy
for
the
partnership
arrangement.
The
other
is
the
animal
control
policies,
but
in
fact
the
animal
control
policies
speak
more
to
the
relationship
with
the
volunteer
organization
than
the
partnership
policy.
So
we'd
like
to
have
some
clarification
that
if
indeed
care
decides
not
to
continue
its
relation
with
the
relationship
with
the
city.
Is
it
still
the
committee's
intent
that
any
voluntary
organization
also
be
asked
to
meet
those
same
requirements
that
are
in
the
two
policies.
R
In
terms
of
the
draft
document
per
se,
the
first
issue
that
I'd
like
to
talk
about
is
the
lack
of
a
true
partnership.
As
we
read
it
essentially
for
the
privileges
of
a
one-year
agreement
to
provide
care
and
adoption
services
for
the
animals
at
the
shelter,
the
voa
would
be
responsible
for
all
capital
costs.
Now
that
includes
software,
for
the
shelter
that
the
chief
animal
warden
would
pick
out.
That
would
be
the
property
of
the
city
of
evanson
and
which
most
volunteers
would
have
limited
access
to.
R
R
R
Two
issues,
the
voluntary
organization
is
an
independent
organization,
and
it
doesn't
seem
to
me,
like
the
city
should
be
dictating.
How
that
organization
should
be
structured,
seems
to
be
a
disconnect
there.
But
the
second
issue
is,
if
you
know
anything
about
organizations
and
volunteers,
the
quickest
way
for
an
organization
to
disintegrate
and
format
morale
to
go
down
is
to
treat
people
people
differently,
which
is
exactly
what
this
proposes
to
do.
R
R
But
if
you
look
at
the
animal
in
the
dog
intake,
if
you
look
at
the
dog
return
to
owner-
and
you
look
at
how
long
it
takes
to
adopt
some
of
the
dogs
out,
there
will
not
be
dogs
at
the
shelter
to
adopt
out
when
people
come
they'll
be
lucky.
If
there
are
one
or
two
dogs
or
possibly
none
so
essentially,
the
shelter
is
a
place
to
get
dogs
isn't
going
to
really
be
there
anymore.
Now
the
shelter
is
a
place
to
get
cats.
We
don't
know.
R
R
This
discussion
should
have
been
about
what
kind
of
animals
and
dogs
does
the
city
of
evanston
want
to
have
in
its
community
and
to
be
responsible
for
this
should
have
been
a
discussion
of
what
kind
of
dogs
do
you
want
living
on
your
street?
What
behavior
is
appropriate
and
acceptable
in
a
community
like
evanston?
R
In
most
of
these
discussions,
we
were
not
even
allowed
to
bring
up
the
fact
that,
indeed,
sometimes
dogs
attack
other
dogs,
sometimes
they
even
kill
other
dogs.
Sometimes
people
bite,
people,
dogs,
bite,
people
and
people
buy
dogs.
Sometimes
sometimes
dogs
bite
people,
sometimes
they
main
main
people
in
extraordinary
circumstances.
They
kill
people.
This
isn't
theoretical
every
week.
If
you
read
the
newspapers,
you
will
see
reports
of
this
happening
and
these
aren't
roaming
packs
of
animals.
R
These
are
dogs
that
people
have
been
working
with,
they
have
in
their
homes.
They
are
trying
their
best
to
manage
these
dogs
24
7,
to
keep
these
dogs
safe
and
to
keep
their
communities
safe,
but
all
it
takes
is
one
slip
up
and
that
dog
pulls
off
a
pulse,
gets
out
of
the
yard,
dog
pulls
off
the
leash,
and
somebody
gets
hurt
we
had
to
do.
We
had
a
chance
to
discuss
what
kind
of
standards
the
city
of
evanston
has
and
what
thinks
what
is
appropriate.
R
This
process
has
provided
no
guidance
when
the
next
group
of
people
go
in
to
evaluate
dogs.
There
are
no
guidelines
for
what
makes
a
dog
somebody
who
should
go
out
and
should
not
again
it's
up
in
the
air
and
eventually
it's
going
to
come
down
again
to
one
person
saying
well.
I
think
it
should
go
out.
One
person
saying
that
it
shouldn't
go
out,
but
there
is
no
substantive
guidance
to
tell
people
what
it
is
that
this
city
of
evanston
expects
for
its
community
and
what
the
city
of
evanston's
responsibilities
are
for.
R
A
R
A
Okay
rose
gallery.
A
To
who
okay
then
carrie.
A
Euler,
okay,
christian
cheryl,
as
okay
with
then
cheryl
you're,
on
with
one
two
three
four
minutes.
S
Hi
everyone,
I'm
cheryl
ferraro,
and
the
first
thing
that
I
would
like
to
say
is:
I
missed
you
on
saturday
I
was
in
on
saturday
night,
alderman
braithwaite,
and
we
heard
that
you
gave
us
a
nice
two-hour
visit
which
was
really
appreciated.
S
One
of
the
things
and
you
brought
your
dog
right.
One
of
the
things
that
that
came
up
and
was
touched
on
briefly
earlier
was
the
topic
of
of
myths
and
things
that
have
been
said
that
aren't
true
and
when
alderman
grathwaite
was
visiting.
He
asked
the
question
and
please
correct
me:
if
this
isn't
accurate,
can
you
put
the
mic
closer.
S
Okay,
the
ques,
the
question
that
he
asked
the
volunteers
and
correct
me
if
it's
not
accurate,
is
was.
Is
it
true
that
dogs
don't
receive
any
food
for
two
or
three
days
before
the
evaluation?
Is
that
true?
Okay?
So
that
was
the
question
and
of
course
everyone
said.
Of
course,
that's
not
true,
and
another
thing.
You
know
that
that
really,
you
know
was
a
topic
of
discussion.
S
Then
afterwards,
after
you
left,
was
the
fact
that
you
had
encouraged
people
to
come
and
stand
up
and
speak
and
dispel
these
myths,
which
is,
of
course
appreciated-
and
one
thing
I
want
to
say
about
that.
Is
everybody
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
aren't
going
to
stand
up
and
do
this
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
just
won't
write
a
letter?
It's
not
their
style.
I
think
somebody
said
earlier.
S
So
along
the
lines
of
dispelling
myths
which
I've
brought
up
before
regarding
dogs
that
are
called
failed,
which
which
we
don't
refer
to
dogs
as
being
failed
dogs,
we
put
a
little
notice
on
the
cage
that
does
say
that
they've
failed
a
test,
because
that
does
give
us
some
information
as
to
how
to
proceed
with
safety.
I
really
appreciate
that.
I'm
I'm
one
of
these,
these
scaredy
people
with
some
of
the
dogs
there's
plenty
of
dogs
that
I
I
just
personally,
you
know
don't
walk.
I
wish
them
well.
S
I
give
them
treats
and
tell
them
to
get
adopted
anyways.
So
the
myth
is
that
failed
dogs
don't
receive
enrichment.
That's
not
true.
Failed
dogs
do
receive
beds,
they
do
receive,
treats
they
get
everything,
but
car
rides
trips
to
petsmart.
They
don't
go
off
the
property
they
get
walks
around
the
facility
and
certain
trainers,
especially
the
more
advanced
trainers,
will
take
them
out
in
the
run.
That's
not
me
so,
okay,
so
so
there's
that
the
other
thing
that
I
want
to
talk
about
is.
S
I
would
really
like
to
bring
our
conversation
back
to
the
heart
of
our
original
issue,
which
was
the
fact
that
I'm
going
to
put
it
this
way
at
this
point
in
time.
It's
as
if
we
have
two
groups
within
care.
We
have.
We
have
the
you
know
the
care
group,
you
know
the
board
supported
care
group,
their
philosophy.
They
err
on
the
side
of
caution.
They
have
strict
criteria
for
adoption.
S
Their
goal
is
to
place
safe
companion,
animals
and
they've
had
much
success
with
that
and
it,
and
the
criticism
has
been
that
this
assessments
are
way
too
strict,
and
then
we
have
another
group
within
and
they
with
it
within
the
care
organization,
and
I
respect
them,
they
have
a
different
end
of
the
spectrum.
They
want
to
see
all
dogs
placed
in
a
home,
they
want
all
dogs
rescued,
they
want,
they
don't
want
to
see
dogs
being
euthanized.
S
I've
only
been
with
care
for
the
past
year
and
I
will
say,
had
I
been
here
in
earlier
times,
I
I'm
sure
I
would
have
been
talking
with
people
that
hold
that
other
point
of
view,
and
I
personally
believe
that
there's
a
gray
area
and
I
think
that
care
has
you
know
the
the
care
board
and-
and
you
know,
supporters
of
care,
as
as
it
is.
I
I
think
that
you
know
at
this
point
in
time.
S
You
know
people
are
saying
that
that,
yes,
you
know,
maybe
we
need
to
pull
back
a
little
bit,
but
all
at
the
same
time
you
know
their
their
concern
is
that
we
have
safe
dogs
in
our
community.
But
but
I
do
believe,
the
thought
at
this
point
in
time
is
that,
yes,
you
know
it's
possible
that
that
there
are
animals
that
we
might
not
want
to
adopt
today,
but
with
some
work,
send
them
to
rescue
we'll
work
with
that.
Okay,
so
all
of
that
then
the
other
part
is
sorry.
S
Okay,
I'm
gonna
wrap
this
up,
really
really
quick,
then,
okay,
I've
struggled
I've
struggled
to
figure
out
why
this
has
been
so
difficult.
I
was
very
heartened
when
this
went
to
a
subcommittee
group.
I
also
thought
this
was
going
to
be
a
place
of
discussion
and
it
really
wasn't
ever
a
place
of
discussion.
S
That
being
said,
I
wish
us
all
luck,
and
the
only
other
other
thing
that
I
want
to
say
is.
I
know
I
said
I
was
going
to
be
finished
and
you
know
I
don't
mean
to
single
people
up,
but
warden
tackler.
I
reviewed
your
comments
from
the
meeting
and
your
comments
were
like
somewhere
between
21
and
20
second
seconds
long,
and
you
know
for
all
the
people
that
have
stood
up
here
and
fought
to
have
a
minute
or
two
to
talk.
You
know
being
the
fact
that
it's
it's
your
shelter.
S
A
Steve
young,
benjamin
schiller,
kathy
roberts
and
asher
biederman.
Those
are
the
next.
The
last
speakers.
T
Hi,
I'm
stephen
young,
I'm
an
adopter.
I
adopted
a
dog
out
of
the
shelter
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago.
This
was
a
dog
that
was
originally
marked
for
euthanasia,
but
because
of
the
concern
and
the
persistence
of
one
of
the
volunteers,
she
was
saved
and
we
ended
up
adopting
her
I've
been
to
several
these
hearings.
T
It's
been
a
real
education
when
the
director
of
the
facility
was
asked
why
the
euthanasia
rate
was
so
high
10
times
higher
than
waukegan,
for
example,
it
was
explained
that
they
didn't
never
want
to
put
the
community
at
risk
or
put
a
dog
out
there,
which
may
harm
a
person.
But
the
reason
the
dog
that
I
have
now
who
was
worked
out
beautifully
was
originally
marked
for
euthanasias,
because
she
chewed
furniture
with
a
previous
adopter.
They
brought
her
back,
we
ended
up
adopting
her
and
she
did
chew
furniture.
T
Indeed,
when
we
first
got
her,
but
all
puppies
do
I've
had
dogs,
my
whole
life,
and
it's
just
something
you
have
to
get
through,
and
I
don't
you
don't
mark
a
dog
for
euthanasia
because
they
chew
furniture,
and
yet
you
know
it
was
explained
that
so
many
dogs
are
being
euthanized
as
because
of
the
fear
of
aggression
and
chewing
furniture
is
not
aggression.
Not
you
know,
in
my
terms
of
seeing
what
normal
dog
behavior
is.
We
wouldn't
be
having
this
discussion
at
all
if
there
was
no
controversy
here.
T
Obviously,
a
lot
of
people
are
very
upset
at
the
way
the
shelter
did
business,
the
way
they
made
decisions
on
which
dogs
would
live
and
which
would
die,
and
this
discussion
would
not
even
be
happening
here
if
there
wasn't
so
much
evidence
from
the
people
who
have
come
forward
to
raise
this
issue
before
the
city
council
in
the
first
place.
So
I'd
like
to
see
this
wrapped
up,
I
mean
you've
got
plenty
of
evidence
to
work
with
here.
T
The
most
damning
to
me
was
when
the
director
of
the
waukegan
shelter
stood
up
here,
a
facility
that
handles
more
dogs
and
more
dogs
than
the
evanson
facility,
and
their
euthanasia
rate
was
one
tenth
of
what
evanston's
is.
That's,
that's
obscene.
I
tried
to
adopt
another
dog,
my
family
interview
with
it
before
we
got
the
present
one
and
that
dog
was
euthanized
before
we
could
even
go
through
the
adoption
process,
even
though
we
wanted
to
adopt
it.
T
U
Benjamin
schuler
132
elmwood
care
is
a
non-profit
organization
that
does
receive
tax
deductible
donations
as
a
citizen.
My
contributions
to
the
city
are
through
my
the
taxes
that
I
pay
now
aside
from
that
care
does
hard
work.
Care
does
good
work,
caring
for
dogs,
cats
and
all
comers
cares.
200
citizens,
volunteering,
their
time,
energy
and
efforts
on
shifts
on
a
weekly
basis
for
the
welfare
of
the
homeless
animals.
U
The
board
of
care
is
also
comprised
of
volunteers,
not
employees.
The
board
is
com
is
comprised
of
volunteers
who
spend
more
time
and
more
work
than
the
rest
of
us.
It
is
a
board
that
I
support.
It
is
a
board
that
has
been
democratically
elected
by
its
membership
and
as
far
as
care
goes
and
considerations
with
animal
shelter
in
animal
care
and
control
policy
decisions
are
made
routinely
in
government
and
discussed
in
public.
U
A
Absolutely
thank
you.
Kathy
roberts.
V
W
I'm
kathy
roberts.
I've
been
a
volunteer
for
about
five
years.
First,
I
need
to
address
the
slam
that
was
made
on
linda
tecla.
Okay,
she's
been
the
warden
for
many
years.
When
I
first
came
there,
I
was
told
to
stay
away
from
this
woman
she's
a
bad
person,
and
they
tell
that
to
all
the
volunteers.
W
They
did
not
have
a
chance
to
check
with
linda
teckler,
so
they're
demonizing
this
woman.
I
was
thinking
this
morning
about
partnerships
and
what
makes
good
partnerships,
okay
and
different
elements,
and
let's
talk
about
karen,
let's
talk
about
what
we
have
here.
Okay,
my
elements
you
have
to
have
respect
to
have
a
partnership.
Okay,
you
have
to
have
cooperation,
there's
no
cooperation
with
care
very
little
between
care
and
the
city
appreciation.
W
Okay,
partners.
If
you
have
a
partnership,
you
need
to
appreciate
and
cooperate
with
people.
The
carer
apparently
does
not
appreciate
the
fact
that
they're
getting
a
rent-free
facility,
they're,
getting
heat
they're,
getting
air
conditioning
they're,
getting
food
they're,
getting
cat
litter
they're
getting
whatever,
and
they
say
that
the
city
is
contributing
little
or
nothing.
That's
not.
Right.
Evans
deserves
better
than
that.
You've
come
a
lot
to
the
shelter
and
I
don't
really
appreciate
what
they're
saying
about
that
and
as
far
as
communication,
you
need
communication,
another
element
of
a
partnership.
W
W
When
you
said
specifically,
can
you
please
address
this?
They
sat
in
silence
and
this
is
what
you
can
expect
from
them
from
now
on.
Okay-
and
that's
I'm
just
telling
you
that's
my
feelings
about
that.
Okay,
I
think
that
the
city
of
evanston
deserves
an
organization
to
cooperate
with
them.
The
city
deserves
it.
The
people
deserve
it,
the
animals
deserve
it
and
the
city
officials
deserve
not
to
be
treated
this
way.
There
should
be
no
partner
of
evanston
that
is
allowed
to
treat
you
like
they're,
treating
you,
okay.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You,
mr
bitterman
biederman.
X
Good
evening,
asher
biederman
9050
killed
air
in
skokie.
I
I
just
wanted
to
correct
a
couple
things
I
heard
tonight.
We
adopted
our
first
dog
in
1996
from
care
and
in
1996
I
wrote
my
first
check
as
a
donation
to
care.
The
check
was
made
payable
to
care
not
to
evanston,
not
to
evanston
animal
shelter
and
for
every
year
since
1996
I've
written
multiple
checks
to
care,
not
to
evanston.
X
X
X
A
Thank
you,
okay.
That
completes
the
speakers
on
this
item.
I
don't
see
any
any
lights.
If
not,
are
there
any
questions
for
the
city
manager
before
we,
okay,
alderman
fest,.
D
And
madam
chair
may,
may
I
just
make
one
comment
before
we
start
absolutely.
The
operations
of
the
evanston
animal
shelter
is
my
responsibility
as
the
city
manager,
ms
tekler,
as
the
animal
warden
has
done
exceptional
service.
Some
of
you
may
not
know
she
is
the
senior
city
employee.
No
one
has
worked
for
the
city
of
evanston
longer
than
linda
techler,
so.
D
So
while
I
understand
that
there's
there's
a
concern
about
the
operations
of
the
shelter
in
the
past,
I
take
responsibility
for
that.
Ms
tekler
is
an
employee
of
the
city
of
evanston
and
any
comments
regarding
the
operation
of
the
shelter
should
be
directed
to
myself
and
not
to
miss
teckler
I'll,
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
B
Oh,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
Oh,
the
first
thing
I
guess
I
want
to
do
is
move
to
approve
the
city
of
evanston
animal
control
policy
and
approve
the
volunteer
animal
organization,
partnership
policy
and
tell
me
mr
city
manager,
if
I'm
doing
this
properly,
okay
direct
the
city
manager
to
create
an
evanston
animal
shelter
fund
to
receive
donations
for
the
animal
shelter.
A
D
B
Right
and
and
the
reason
I
did,
that
was
because
of
a
comment
I
believe
made
by
miss
strauss,
which
was
a
possible
discussion
of
whether
or
not
there
has
been
a
partnership
that
would
affect
the
disposition
of
funds
that
were
created
or
were
solicited
by
the
city
and
canada.
A
And
I,
and
since
she
sent
that
information-
and
I
know
the
city
manager
received
a
copy
of
it
as
well
because
sent
the
email
and
to
our
legal
department,
I
think
that
that
would
I
don't
think
that
it's
right
to
incorporate
that
into
the
motion.
Okay,
so
I
cannot
vote
on
it
in
that
way,
I
can
vote
on
if
we're
going
to
go
with
the
seven
points.
All.
B
Right
then,
let's
do
the
seven
points
and
we'll
leave
that
that's
fine,
that's
written!
You
leave
that
as
written
and
then
I
will
remove
the
number
six,
the
the
with
corporation
council.
As
long
as
we
are
moving
to
continue
that
discussion
to
move
on
to
council.
A
Ultimate,
I
saw
your
light.
Sorry,
oh.
A
Y
Y
My
comment
was
that
we
actually
request
a
separate
motion
for
engaging
the
city
engaging
care
in
discussions
about
the
money
issues
as
it
stands
now
that
would
come
after
this
discussion.
B
B
Right,
no
fine!
I'm
I'm
happy
with
that.
Okay!
Now
I'd
like
to
speak
to
that,
it's
been
moved
and
seconded.
B
B
B
We've
had
difficulty
in
getting
any
sort
of.
B
Decision
on
the
part
of
care
and
any
it's
been
like
pulling
teeth,
and
there
has
never
been
at
any
time
during
those
15
months
when
we
were
talking
about
very
emotional
issues,
there
has
never
been
any
time
that
we
haven't
prefaced
those
comments
with
the
fact
that
we
appreciate
every
single
volunteer
every
single
volunteer
hour.
That's
been
spent
at
the
shelter
I've
spent
my
life
in
animal
rescue.
I
know
how
hard
that
is.
B
I
have
feral
cats
and
I
have
a
feral
cat.
That
is
one
of
my
working
team
with
me
that
came
from
the
feral
cat
colony
in
northwest
evanston.
So
I
know
this.
I
know
how
hard
it
is,
and
but
I
also
know
that,
through
the
discussions,
not
only
the
discussions
that
we
had
with
care
behind
closed
doors
with
the
mayor,
alderman,
rainey
city
manager,
police,
chief
and
others
that
care
seems
to
have
a
vision
for
its
organization.
B
That
is
very
different
from
what
we
must
do.
As
a
municipal
shelter,
I
don't
disrespect,
it
all
cares
vision
for
itself.
I
understand
when
it
says
that
it
wants
to
only
accept
the
kind
of
dog
or
animal
into
its
program
that
it
thinks
it
deems
appropriate,
but
that's
not
what's
appropriate
for
the
evanston
animal
shelter.
B
B
B
That
dog
in
my
home,
with
my
other
dogs
and
cats
and
birds,
is
the
most
well-behaved,
absolutely
wonderful
animal
in
the
world,
and
he
wouldn't
have
been
here
if
the
volunteers
and
especially
warden
techler
and
alderman
rainey
hadn't,
stepped
up
and
questioned
the
authority
of
the
folks
of
the
care
leadership
who
actually
conduct
the
tests.
So
I
believe
I
agree
with
the
aspca
there's
a
problem
with
the
shelter
there's,
a
problem
that
we
have
to
address,
and
this
is
the
way
that
we
have
to
address.
B
B
I
think
it's,
as
I
said
in
the
last
meeting.
I
think
it's
time
to
end
this.
I
think
it's
time
for
us
to
have
a
vision
for
the
shelter
and
move
forward
in
a
way
that
really
respects
both
the
city,
the
volunteers
and
the
animals,
and
I
believe
that
we
can
do
that.
I
think
that
we're
at
the
end
of
the
discussion
and
it's
appropriate
tonight
for
us
to
move
on.
C
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
all
for
the
volunteers
that
came
out
this
weekend
was
actually
you
know
very
eye-opening
for
me
and
I
think
a
lot
of
it
had
to
do
with
the
fact
that
I
didn't
understand
the
evaluation
process.
So
that's
really
was
my
primary
reason.
For
going
over
is
really
to
understand
the
evaluation
process,
which
I
hoped
would
help
me
to
understand
exactly
why
a
room
full
of
volunteers
who
all
love
animals
can't
get
along,
and
unfortunately
I
did
get
a
very
clear
understanding
of
the
evaluation
process.
C
Sadly
to
say
we
couldn't
get
past
the
point
that
it's
taken,
probably
about
two
years
for
us
to
get
here,
so
my
vote
this
evening
is
probably
going
to
be
one
of
the
most
difficult
ones
this
evening
that
I've
ever
had
to
vote
on,
because
this
conversation,
you
all
listen
about
right
or
wrong.
It
isn't
about
the
theories
it
isn't
about
the
vision.
C
Unfortunately,
it's
going
to
be
about
two
family
of
volunteers
that
just
could
not
get
along,
and
so
it's
it's
very
disturbing,
and
so
with
that
being
said,
I
don't
know
if
it's
time
to
call
the
question
just
to
well.
A
Y
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
came
into
this
relatively
recently
into
this
discussion.
Y
To
give
me
a
lot
of
background
information,
I
actually
have
a
binder
full
of
information
now
that
was
started
by
the
city,
but
certainly
care
contributed
a
lot
of
the
documents
as
well,
and
I
was
in
the
beginning.
I
was
talking
to
volunteers
on
all
sides
of
the
issue
somewhere
and
I
would
say
the
vast
majority
of
volunteers
were
were
just
questioning
what
was
going
on.
They
weren't
in
favor
of
the
care
organization
or
against
it.
It
was
simply
they
were
care,
all
the
volunteers.
Y
I
still
get
for
care,
but
they
were
simply
wanted
to
find
a
quick
resolution
to
this
and
not
let
this
thing
drag
out
as
it
has
to
become
a
discussion
in
the
media,
the
blogs
and
everything
else
that
contributes
to
making
a
situation
much
much
worse
than
it
ever
had
to
be.
Y
I
did
finally
have
a
time
during
our
hearings.
It
became
pretty
obvious
to
me
that
this
was
a
contaminated
relationship.
More
and
more
people
came
forward.
In
fact,
in
my
ward,
many
people
about
16
or
18
people
came
forward
who
had
been
former
volunteers
at
care
and
those
stories
I
took
to
heart
because
I
realized
these
people
want
to
be
a
part
of
our
animal
shelter
and
will
rescue
in
our
animal
care
in
this
community
and
felt
that
they
could
not
participate
in
it.
Y
With
that.
You
know
the
rest.
I've
been
involved
since
that
time,
and
I
think
that
certainly
my
vote
hasn't
changed.
I
think
that,
as
I
did
a
month
or
so
ago,
the
the
the
relationship
is
broken
around
repair
and
I
think
we
should
advance
forward.
I
realize
we're
not
exactly
doing
that
tonight,
but
I
that
I
still
stick
by
my
original
thought
after
the
committee
subcommittee
hearings.
So
that's
what
I
have
to
say
and
again
you
know
like
I
said
I
didn't
even
distinguish
distinguish
between
volunteers.
Y
I
understand
that
and
understand
how
emotions
could
get
very
raw
and
things
could
get
very
heated
because
we
do
all
care
about
our
animals
and
a
lot
of
people
think
we're
crazy
because
we
put
animals
on
a
high
pedestal
and
where
you're
meeting
with
them
night
after
a
meeting
about
them
night
after
night-
and
I
think
that's
that
you
know
I
I
feel
no,
I
don't
feel
like
I've
neglected
the
rest
of
society,
because
I
have
a
passion
for
animals.
It's
just
one
of
my
big
passions.
Y
A
Thank
you
element,
tinderman.
I
think
I'm
going
to
say
this
is
the
last
thing
I
say
before.
I
call
for
the
vote.
I
think
that,
and
I'm
really
happy
that
the
city
manager
said
that
you
know
this
lies
within
his
office
and
he
we
have
a
city
manager,
council,
former
government
in
evanston
and
he's
hired
to
take
care
of
these
things.
For
us.
A
A
Okay,
so
I
think
we
all
know
that
and
I
think
that
we'd
all
be
rem.
At
least
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
say
that,
and
I
can't
remember
which
speaker,
because
I
didn't
write
their
name
but
no
matter
who
and
how
this
turns
out
and
whatever
happens
with
the
future
of
the
shelter
and
because
the
animals
don't
speak
for
themselves.
Human
beings
do
that
and
and
of
course,
as
human
beings,
we
all
have
faults
all
right.
A
It's
with
to
work,
and
I
think
that
our
city
manager
is
very
much
aware
that
the
city-
everybody
has
fault
in
this,
and
I'm
going
to
say
I
think
the
city
has
fault
in
this,
and
we
maybe
we
didn't
pay
as
much
attention
as
we
should
have,
but
we've
learned
and
we
want
to
move
forward
and
I
hope,
all
of
the
volunteers,
the
board
of
care
all
the
animal
lovers
out.
A
There
will
understand
that
and
want
to
work
with
us
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
best
shelter
on
the
north
shore
that
we
have
the
best
shelter
anywhere.
I
think
evanson
can
have
the
best
of
anything
in
no
matter
what
it
is.
So
I
I
really
feel
that
way
about
it.
So
I'm
hoping
that
we
will
all
leave
here
tonight
feeling
that,
and
certainly
we
will
try
to
convey
that
tomorrow
night
to
our
colleagues
on
the
city
council.
So
with
that
you've
heard
the
motion,
it's
been.
A
Second,
it
was
seconded
so
all
in
favor
of
moving
on
to
the
city
council
with
the
recommendation
one
through
seven
I'll.
Just
put
it
like
that,
because
it's
all
written
all
in
favor
any
opposed
and
with
that
we
move
on
to
the
council.
Thank
you
all
very,
very
much.
Thank
you
all
for
the
wait.
We.
D
And
if
I
may
so,
then
there's
the
issue
of
care.
So
there
are
two
additional
recommendations:
if,
if
care
wishes
to
negotiate
a
new
one-year
agreement
and.
A
Their
care
declines,
and
I'm
sorry
I
should
have
said
that
I
was
waiting
for
that
and
I
forgot
let
it
slip
away
from
me.
But
if
I
heard
correctly,
what
mrs
loving
just
said
is
that
they
wanted
to
hear
first
what
the
council
had
to
say
before
they
wanted
to
decide
whether
they
wanted
to
negotiate.
So
I'm
assuming
that
that
meant
that
they
wanted
to
see
how
the
council
would
vote
tomorrow
night
before
they
decide
whether
they
want
to
vote
or
not.
D
And
then
that's
why
I
stopped
you,
because
I
I
think
that
if
this
committee
could
provide
some
advice
to
the
city
council
tomorrow
evening
again,
I
think
we
heard
more
from
the
care
board
this
evening
regarding
these
issues
than
we've
had
over
the
last
several
weeks,
so
that
that
indicated
to
me
that
there
was
some
additional
interest
which
here
before
this
evening,
we
didn't
necessarily
have
so.
So
I
think,
if
well.
A
I'm
not
sure,
because
in
the
in
the
memo
that
we
received,
did
it
not
say
that
they
wanted
to
sit
down
with
the
council.
I
thought
it
wasn't
with
us
that
they
wanted
to
negotiate,
but
what
the
council,
if
I
remember
reading
in
the
I,
have
to
look
at
it,
but.
A
D
Comments
this
evening,
it's
much
clearer,
okay,
that
they've
actually
raised
substantive
issues;
okay,
so
if
it's
the
committee's
wish,
then
I
would
encourage
you
also
then,
to
to
to
take
a
vote
on
the
the
other.
D
The
one-year
agreement
so
that
you
can
provide
counsel
to
the
to
the
rest
of
the
city
council
as
to
what
your
wishes
are,
because
I
think
otherwise
the
council
may
be
a
little
stalled,
and
I
would
hope
that
tomorrow
evening
the
council
will
give
clear
direction
and
if
it's
this
committee's
wish
to
let
this
be
now
at
the
council
level
as
well,
then
you
know
the
the
first
part
of
this.
That
second
paragraph
then
says
to
come
back
to
the
city,
full
city
council
on
april
28th.
D
That
would
be
very
helpful
to
me
to
have
that
kind
of
direction.
Conversely,
if
what
you
heard
this
evening
is,
is
not
what
you
wanted
to
hear,
then
it
would
also
be
helpful
to
know
that
so
that
we
could
move
on
and
look
for
other
partners
so
one
way
or
another.
I
think
the
council
would
benefit
from
the
committee's
recommendations
on
this
on
this
next
point.
Okay,.
Y
A
Okay,
all
memphis.
B
I
think
it's
a
it
was
interesting
to
hear
ms
levinger
tonight
and
a
little
bit
frustrating,
because
we
have
had
this
agreement
out
for
two
weeks
now
and
have
not
had
a
response
from
them
until
this
evening.
B
I
I
didn't
hear
anything
that
said
and
we've
just
voted
on
the
policies
and
the
and
the
revised
draft
agreement,
but
I
haven't
heard
anything
that
said
that
and
actually
have
heard
that
they
did
not
feel
very
comfortable
about
the
position
that
they
felt
that
they
would
be
put
in
regarding
whether
or
not
they
would
be
the
decision
makers
of
the
with
the
rescue
team
with
the
animal
warden
what
their
position
was,
and
they
framed
it
in
terms
of
creating
a
second
class
tier
for
the
care
volunteers,
as
opposed
to
the
rescue
team.
B
To
suggest
that
we
might
be
again
going
behind
closed
doors
to
have
further
conversations
with
care,
I'm
not
willing
to
do
that.
As
I
said
at
the
last
meeting,
if
some
of
you
decide
or
if
the
city
council
decides
that
you're
going
to
give
them
until
the
28th,
it
has
to
be
open
meetings,
it
has
to
be,
and
that's
what
this
committee
is
for.
That's
why
we
asked
ms
gelb
last
time
to
stand
up
and
make
a
comment.
B
B
This
is
this
has
really
gone
on
long
enough.
I
it's
really
time
for
us
to
change
gears
here
and
say
this
is
not
working
and
go
ahead
with
a
strategy
and
an
organization
that
really
is
going
to
fulfill
our
mission
for
the
shelter.
So
I
would
strongly
suggest
this
committee
have
the
courage
to
say
no,
and
the
last
thing
I
want
to
mention
is
that
someone
said
that
there
were
board
elections.
B
I
would
like
someone
to
tell
me
when
the
last
time
that
the
president
of
care
was
up
for
election
and
what
the
vote
was
on
the
board.
When
is
the
last
time
that
your
president
appeared
on
a
ballot
where,
where
all
the
volunteers
at
care
voted
for
president,
can
you
tell
me
that?
Can
anyone
tell
me
that
ms
levinger,
can
you
tell
me
that,
and
was
there
anyone
running
against
ms
gelb.
C
C
A
Oh,
I
don't
know,
and-
and
the
city
manager
is
certainly
free
to
answer
and
that's
what
I'm
responding
to,
because
I
think
I
heard
miss
like
levenger
clearly
tonight
say
that
they
wanted
to
wait
until
it
went
to
city
council
right
and
that's
why
I
wanted
to
because
obviously
they
didn't
want
to
do
it
here
and
to
see
how
the
council
was
going
to
react,
and
I
hear
what
you're
saying
city
manager
would
make
your
life
much
easier
if
we
did
that
here,
but
I
was
trying
to
respond
to
that
in
terms
of
how
you
know,
we
can
certainly
make
a
recommendation
to
the
com,
we're
making
a
recommendation
to
the
council
that
we
want
to
accept
this
policy.
A
I
mean
that's
real
clear
now,
and
so
I
you
know,
how
can
we
recommend
that
there
be
negotiation
or
not
with
care
when
based
upon
her
statement
tonight?
That's
that
was
what
was
confusing
to
me
and.
D
And
again
manager,
members
of
the
committee-
I
guess
that's
where
I'm
at
too-
is
that
I'm
still
confused
they've
raised
issues.
Those
issues
seem
to
be
incompatible
with
the
discussions
that
this
committee
has
had.
If
they're
waiting
for
the
city
council
to
change
the
policy
which
you're
recommending
to
make
them
more
compatible,
I
guess
that's
an
option.
I'll
be
honest,
I
don't
see
that
this
full
city
council
is
going
to
do
that.
D
My
concern
is
then
tomorrow
evening,
if
all
these
policies
have
been
approved
and
the
full
city
council
agrees
with
that,
what
is
the
next
step?
Is
the
next
step
then,
to
go
back
to
care
and
say
this
is
what
it
is.
What
do
you
think
is
it
to
say
we?
We
know
that
you're
not
happy
with
this,
and
so
the
city
is
just
going
a
different
direction.
D
Is
it
to
do
nothing
and
just
wait
and
see
if
there's
additional
response
from
care?
I
just
don't
want
to
leave
tomorrow's
meeting
if
the
council
wishes
to
move
forward
without
a
plan,
and
I
think
the
council
would
appreciate
this
committee
providing
a
recommendation
as
to
what
that
plan
looks
like.
So
it's
either.
I
think,
despite
the
fact
that
care
has
not
come
with
a
full-throated.
D
Yes,
we
want
to
keep
talking
to
either
say
yes,
okay,
mr
city
manager,
go
back
talk
to
them,
keep
it
on
a
short
string,
come
back
to
the
full
council
on
april
28th
and
tell
us
what
you
found
out
or
it's
we're
done
with
care,
and
we
need
to
move
forward
and
do
something
different.
So
I
think
those
are
the
the
two
options
I
was
hoping
it
would
be.
D
You
know
the
lines
would
be
clearer
and,
unfortunately,
they're
really
not,
but
but
I
I
think
that,
if
you're
able
to
provide
any
additional
direction
to
the
full
council,
otherwise
they're
going
to
look
like
you
all
look
right
now
tomorrow
evening,
I
fear
and
we
won't
be
able
to
move
forward,
and
I
think
they
would
appreciate
your
counsel
right.
Y
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
I
think
what
the
only
thing
that's
going
to
be
acceptable
and
someone
from
care
can
certainly
from
the
care
board.
Ms
levinger
could
correct
me,
but
the
anticipation
would
be
that
this
council
would
direct
this
agreement
back
to
staff
to
incorporate
a
number
of
the
issues
raised
tonight
by
the
care
board,
and
I
don't
think
that's
in
the
plans.
As
far
as
I
know,
and
I
and
I
don't
would
not
sort
of
not
recommend
that
I
think
it's.
Y
Y
B
I
I
agree
with
that,
but
mr
city
manager,
the
question
that
I
have
is
that
the
way
these
things
work
is
that
we
have
a
discussion
of
committee
and
that's
what
we're
here
for
we're
here,
to
listen
to
all
of
you
and
we're
here
to
discuss
and
we're
we've
done
that
we've
done
that
for
a
long
time.
B
The
plan
was
to
move
this
to
city
council
tomorrow
night.
That's
our
next
city
council
meeting.
B
B
I
don't
see
that
it
is
appropriate
for
us
to
be
asking
and
I'm
not
even
quite
sure
what
we
would
be
doing
until
april
28th,
but
this
is
this
is
time.
This
is
the
decision
time.
This
is
what
we're
here
for
this
is
why
we
were
elected
to
make
a
decision
on
this
and
it's
going
to
council
tomorrow
night.
B
As
far
as
I
know,
and
that's
what
the
plan
is
so
tomorrow
night
at
council
either
what
we
are
recommending
to
council
will
be
approved
or
not
approved,
and
after
that
I
don't
believe,
there's
any
more
discussion
going
back,
we're
not
going
to
go
back
and
revisit
that.
That's
going
to
be
voted
on,
that's
going
to
be
done
and
we
don't
take
votes
on
on
anything
and
then
say:
oh,
okay!
B
Well
now
we're
going
to
open
up
another
discussion
to
see
if
you
actually
liked
our
vote
or
whether
you
want
to
make
changes
to
what
we
just
voted
on.
That's
not
the
way
that
all
of
this
works.
This
is
why
we
were
trying
to
get
ms
gelb
to
come
up
to
the
podium.
Last
time
we
were
trying
to
pick
on
her
or
be
mean
to
her
it's
just.
C
C
C
C
Okay
then
scratch
that,
but
here's
what
I
also
agree
that
this
policy
is
it's
a
very
clear
direction
for
care
to
say
yes
or
no
to
there's
no
confusion
about
that,
and
then
it
also
sets
up
a
very
clear
expectation
for
another
organization
to
come
in
if,
if
it
so
chooses
so
and
this
stuff
isn't
going
to
happen
overnight,
so
I
just
want
to
be
careful
with
how
we
proceed
again.
Let's
recommend
it
to
council,
let's
vote
on
the
policy
and
then
let's
give
that
period
of
the
28th.
No.
A
For
this
committee
that
we
have
to
now
address
the
second
portion
of
it,
and
I
think
that
what
we
have
to
say
is
that,
since
we
did
not
have
a
clear,
as
you
just
stated,
yes
or
no,
because
the
policy
has
been
out
there
for
everybody
to
look
at.
I
A
We've
had
no
clear
yes
or
no
from
care
in
terms
of
if
they
want
to
negotiate
a
one-year
lease
that
we
would
have.
We'd
have
to
recommend
to
the
council
that
we
cannot
make
a
recommendation
that
that
move,
that
they
do
that
now.
If
the
council
chooses
to
wait
until
the
20,
they
can
wait
till
june
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
but
I
don't
think
that
we
can
say
that
we
want
them
to
to
know
to
negotiate
a
contract
when
it's
clearly
not
stated.
A
They
have
not
said
that
and
I
I
wanted
to
listen
real
clear.
I
even
took
some
notes
to
make
sure
that
I
was
hearing
her
correctly
in
terms
of
where
they
want
to
go.
So
I
mean
that
is
the
only
that's.
The
only
thing
that
I
could
vote
on
for
tonight
is
that,
if,
if
we
have
to
address
it,
we
can't
kick
the
can
down
the
road
we
have
to
put
on
our
big
big
girl,
shoes
and
big
boy
shoes.
A
Okay,
so
I
mean
that
is
what
we
need
to,
and
I
don't
know
if
I
can
and
I'll
try
to
state
it
clearly
clear
if
I
can-
or
somebody
else
has
some
better
words,
but
I
think,
since
we
have
not
had
clear
direction
from
care
in
terms
of
a
yes
or
no,
that
they
wanted
to
negotiate
a
one-year
agreement
with
the
city
based
upon
the
new
proposed
right
animal
control
policy
that
we
cannot
recommend
that
the
city
then
enter
into
into
intent
to
a
negotiation
that
the
city
manager
into
into
negotiations
with
care.
A
A
I
hear
you
accept
that
it's
they
haven't
accepted,
nor
have
they
declined
and
that's
that's
the
piece
that's
unclear
for
me.
We
don't
have
a
yes
or
no
from
them
right
and
you
I
mean
you
can't
be
lukewarm,
you
know
we.
We
have
to
be
hot
a
cold.
I
understand
that
and
since
they've
been
neither,
how
can
we
make
a
recommendation
to
the
council
that
they
accept
or
decline.
C
D
Z
D
And
I
and
madam
chair,
if
you
would
rather
at
this
point
in
the
evening,
stick
with
the
motion
that
you've
had,
I
think,
as
committee
chair,
you
will
make
comments
tomorrow
evening,
and
perhaps
your
comments,
sort
of
summarizing
where
or
where
the
committee
is
at
will
be
sufficient.
Your
colleagues
who
are
not
member
of
this
committee,
who
will
be
there
tomorrow
evening,
are
very
well
versed.
I
think
in
these
issues,
and
perhaps
maybe
those
comments
will
suffice
and
then
the
full
council
has
the
discussion
on
what
the
appropriate
next
step
is.
A
I
was
just
going
to
ask
that
because
I
was
going
to
say
if
we
could
add,
because
I'm
just
not
comfortable
with
saying,
because
we
don't
have
a
yes
or
no.
But
I
can
clarify
that
in
my
report
when
I
make
the
report
to
the
to
the
council
tomorrow
night.
So
I
can
go
with
the
third
paragraph,
which
is
it
and
then
we're
just
we're
not
recommending.
A
B
A
D
A
Right,
fine,
arnold
intended
you
wanted
something
else
before
the
city
manager.
Y
Yes,
city
manager,
is
it
appropriate
that
we
would
make
a
motion
at
this
point
to
direct
staff
to
discuss
the
existing
funds.
D
You
know,
certainly
this
is
another
issue
that
once
this
full
city
council
makes
some
determination
will
need
to
be
done.
Perhaps
a
motion
would
be
appropriate
to
recommend
that
the
council
have
that
discussion
tomorrow
evening,
so
based
on
what
the
council's
decision
is.
Clearly,
if
the
council
takes
the
recommendation
not
to
negotiate
an
agreement,
I
think
that
it's
very
appropriate
to
discuss
what
happens
to
the
funds
that
have
been
collected
and-
and
so
perhaps
the
motion
is
just
to
recommend
that
the
council
have
that
discussion.
D
A
I
was
just
going
to
say,
but
based
upon
the
opinion
that
we
received
from
director
ferrara
based
upon
what
we
knew
then
now
we
did
get
some
additional
information,
and
I
understand
that
so
that
we
would
have
to
be
instructed
to
look
at
that.
And
so
I
could
incorporate
that
in
the
report
as
well
tomorrow
night
when
we're
making
that
so
that
the
other
city
council
members
could
be
knowledgeable
about
that.
Because.
A
Absolutely
okay,
argentina,
is
that:
okay,
yes,
okay,
alderman
brethren,
your
light
and
all
right.
Fine!
Thank
you,
city
manager.
Okay,
all
right!
Moving
on,
we
got
a
few
more
items:
hh3
the
ordinance,
26-0-14
human
rights,
ordinance.
D
AA
Madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
we
have
with
us
tonight,
I
miss
jennifer
lassic
to
address
that
issue.
V
Madden
chair
members
of
the
committee,
this
item
has
to
do
with
the
on
ten
thousand
ripples
project
that
was
begun
here
under
the
artist
indira
johnson.
I
know
there's
been
questions
about
transitioning
into
phase
two
of
this
project,
so
you
have
before
you
the
history
of
the
project
that
10
emerging
buddha
sculptures
were
placed
around
the
city.
V
It
was
intended
that
they
were
to
be
temporary,
that
they
were
to
be
in
the
city
for
four
months,
at
which
time
five
of
them
were
to
be
gifted
to
the
city
and
five
were
to
be
collected
by
the
manufacturer
and
the
artists
and
the
groups
that
had
lent
them
to
the
city.
To
begin
with.
So
at
this
point
the
situation
is
that
the
manufacturer
was
to
pick
them
up
in
november,
but
with
the
winter
that
set
in
he
got
delayed.
V
So
he
had
planned
to
pick
them
up
about
two
weeks
ago,
and
I
requested
that
he
pick
up
four
instead
of
five,
because
there's
been
a
request
on
the
part
of
a
group
of
citizens
that
one
buddha
sculpture
be
placed
in
the
area
of
dumpster
and
dodge
not
necessarily
at
that
intersection.
But
in
ward
2
in
that
area,
initially
the
request
was
made
that
the
twigs
park
sculpture
be
moved.
However,
that
is
that
will
be
happening.
V
That
is
an
award
where
the
emerging
buddhist
sculpture
is
also
highly
desired,
and
so
until
this
matter
could
be
resolved,
I
directed
them
to
leave
two
sculptures
in
ward
8,
with
the
hopes
that
that
the
second
one
could
either
be
picked
up
or
be
moved.
If
the
matter
comes
to
resolution,
I've
spoken
with
ms
indira
johnson
who's
the
artist
and
talked
to
her
a
little
bit
about
the
project
and
the
donation,
and
just
as
a
fyi
for
everybody,
she'll
be
speaking
at
the
evanston
public
library
on
the
16th
about
the
matter.
V
Those
sculptures
cost
approximately
two
thousand
dollars
and
if
it
pleases
the
committee,
the
recommendation
is
that
the
citizen
group
that
wishes
to
have
a
sculpture
in
ward
2,
would
approach
the
public
art
committee
as
a
possible
project
to
be
funded
so
that,
instead
of
having
five
sculptures,
we'd
have
six
of
them
and
that's
it.
Unless
you
have
any
questions,
that's
the
recommendation
before
you.
B
G
A
C
A
All
right,
we
want
to
make
sure
we
get
to
a
nice.
It
was
moved
in.
Second,
all
in
favor
aye
any
opposed.
Okay,
hh5,
the
noise
tenant
lease.
AA
Yes,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
joe
mcrae
deputy
city
manager,
tonight,
we've
brought
before
you
a
memo
which
outlines
the
staff
recommendations
for
the
noyes
cultural
arts
center.
It's
on
page
145
of
your
packet.
Just
to
summarize,
given
the
time
we're
making
a
couple
of
recommendations
that
we
hope
you
all
will
approve,
one
is
to
allow
staff
authorized
staff
to
extend
the
current
leases
2013
through
april
of
2014.
AA
AA
The
next
would
be
to
have
staff
and
the
noise
tenants
association,
look
at
or
have
staff
look
at
the
security
system
and
to
conduct
a
review
of
it
and
come
back
no
later
than
june
1st
of
this
year
and
last
would
be
to
look
at
placing
a
reception
desk
in
the
noise
cultural
arts
center,
based
on
recommendations
from
the
tenants
and
to
staff,
at
part
time
with
city
staff
and
the
other
portion
of
time
with
volunteers
that
we
work
with
the
tenants
association
to
get.
A
Okay,
all
right,
we
have
one
speaker
so
before
we
go
into
discussion,
ann
berkeley,
I'm
sorry!
I
misread
your
name
before.
Oh,
not
a
problem.
AB
Hi
I'm
anne
berkeley.
I
live
at
1204
crane
street
and
I'm
co-chair
of
the
evanston
arts
council.
This
is
fran
joyce
she's
also
on
the
arts
council.
So
I'm
here
to
briefly
address
the
recommendations
presented
to
you
guys
on
march
3rd
by
maggie
weiss
of
the
noise
tenants,
association
and
lisa
deleon,
tony
my
co-chair
on
the
arts
council
so
putting
together.
AB
Those
joint
recommendations
was
a
huge
task,
but
I
was
pleased
that
the
city
manager
asked
us
to
do
it
because
it
gave
us
the
opportunity
to
begin
to
address
the
next
steps
of
the
evan
starts
study
that
we
worked
so
hard
on
last
year.
It
was
truly
clear
from
that
study
that
evanstonians
want
a
community
art
center.
They
want
a
place
where
they
can
hang
out
and
have
fun
making
art
and
enjoying
art,
and
we
have
the
opportunity
to
further
develop
the
noise
cultural
arts
center
into
such
a
venue.
AB
We're
especially
interested
in
having
a
receptionist
or
non-custodial
staff
person
present
to
assist
access
to
the
building
and
its
services.
We
think
that
not
having
such
a
person
in
a
public
building
could
present
a
safety
issue,
so
I
wanted
to
make
sure
you
guys
understand
that
over
40,
volunteer,
artists
and
art
supporters
came
together
in
these
recommendations
and
what
I
would
estimate
to
be
about
a
hundred
hours
of
meeting
and
editing
time
to
craft
the
recommendations
which
are
now
before
you.
AB
A
Okay,
go
ahead.
AC
Hi
good
evening,
madam
chair
and
everybody,
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
so
much
to
the
city
manager
to
joe
mccray
and
everybody
else
who
worked
on
that
budget
document.
There
we've
been
waiting
waiting,
a
long
time
for
a
budget
and
feel
it's
really
great
to
have
something
in
writing
from
which
we
can
work
going
forward
thanks,
everybody,
okay,
thank
you.
A
Okay,
I
mean
yeah.
We
just
make
recommendations
to
accept
the
recommendation.
Okay,
so
so
so
moved
so,
okay,
it's
been
moved
in
second,
that
we
accept
the
recommendations
made
by
the
city
staff
and
move
those
on
to
the
council.
For
the
next
is
that
tomorrow
night
or
is
that
the
28th?
A
A
I
You
this
is
the
human
services
meeting
and
the
main
agenda
should
be
human
services.
Evanston
prides
itself
on
its
diversity
and
also
on
going
green.
The
city
council
has
interpreted
going
green
and
diversity
for
the
citizens
of
evanston,
as
increasing
unemployment
and
decreasing
humanitarianism
and
diversity
going
green
seems
to
be
getting
rid
of
parks
and
some
employees
and
getting
some
money
for
and
getting
more
money
for
developers.
Evanston
deserves
better
and
thank
you
for
coming
come
and
get
me.
Thank
you.
A
Hh6
for
communication-
oh
okay,
that's
just
for
our
information
and
that
on
the
tenant-based
rental
assistance.
That
concludes
our
agenda.
Is
there
a
motion
for
adjournment?