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A
We're
going
to
get
started
because
we're
real
limited
with
time
tonight
we
have
a
special
City
Council
meeting
Fowler
in
this
meeting,
so
we
have
just
about
an
hour
to
work
on
this
special
order
of
business
for
this
evening,
and
we
are
all
mine.
Fist
is
on
her
way
in.
So
that's
what
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
get
started.
A
We
are
going
to
I'm
going
to
have
to
limit
our
citizens
comments
tonight.
So
we're
going
to
take
approximately
15
minutes
off
of
citizens
comments
and
then
so
that
we
can
get
into
discussion
we
have
on.
We
have
six
people,
so
that's
about
two
and
a
half
minutes
each
and
I
will
call
the
names
and
then
you
can
line
up
our
call.
All
six
so
you'll
know
who
you
follow.
Virginia
man
on
Erin
is
this
crucial
Caron
Strauss
vicki
has,
since
%
o,
ok
and
Alicia
Kaplan
and
then
Susan,
Hodges
Hodges.
B
Ready,
yes,
mountain
Virginia
man
of
3004
Normandy
place
I'm
here,
Nadia's
a
care
volunteer
because,
quite
frankly,
I've.
Never
volunteered
there
I'm
here
as
a
taxpayer
and
as
a
donor
to
care.
I
got
involved
in
this
topic,
because
several
people
asked
me
due
to
my
involvement
with
animal
related
businesses.
B
I'm
extremely
concerned
with
what
is
going
on
here.
I
believe
it
would
be
totally
irresponsible
for
the
city
to
move
forward
with
its
relationship
with
care
to
outside
auditors,
including
the
highly
regarded
ASPCA,
have
raised
serious
concerns
about
the
operation
of
this
organization,
long-term
volunteers,
whose
stories
have
been
echoed
by
many
others.
If
you
read
the
comment,
sections
and
local
media
have
spoken
out
about
serious
problems
within
the
organization
to
alderman
and
staff
who
have
investigated
this
issue
in
depth,
reported
without
hesitation
and
recommended
that
the
relationship
with
care
should
be
severed.
B
B
Their
mission
statements
with
the
IRS
says
that
there
to
provide
for
the
needs
of
the
animals
at
the
shelter,
including
medical,
food
and
socialization,
and
to
promote
the
humane
treatment
of
animals
through
the
education
of
the
community
and
to
raise
funds
to
provide
for
the
medical
care,
including
all
shots
and
Spain
and
neutering
and
food,
as
well
as
improvements
to
the
shelter.
That's
not
happening
and
hasn't
been
happening.
They
are
not
doing
what
they
promised.
B
They
are
not
providing
a
comprehensive
program
that
would
be
in
character
with
our
community
and
the
care
that
our
community
has
for
homeless
animals.
They
do
not
reflect
our
values,
they
do
not
reflect
modern
and
appropriate
care
for
homeless
cats
and
dogs.
It
is
a
mistake
to
let
them
nevermind
30
seconds.
It
is
a
mistake
to
let
them
move
forward
and
I
I
am
just
really
astounded
that
anyone
would
consider
allowing
them
to
do
so.
B
The
homeless
animals
in
evanston
have
a
voice,
their
volunteers
who,
after
dedicating
decades
of
their
lives
and
thousands
of
their
dollars
to
the
evanston
Animal
Shelter,
have
come
and
spoken
out
on
behalf
of
them
and
for
you
to
disregard
the
concerns
that
they
have
raised.
The
concerns
others
have
raised
is
irresponsible
and
I
hope
that
you
will
reconsider
moving
forward
with
care.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Aaron.
C
C
Crucial
I'm
at
seven
sixteen
Brummel
I
was
one
of
the
original
care
volunteers.
One
of
the
original
board
members.
We
were
formed
to
help
care
for
the
animals
at
the
evanston
animal
shelter.
We
were
a
small
group,
but
did
everything
we
could
to
make
sure
the
animals
got
all
the
medical
care
that
they
needed
and
that
we
adopted
or
sent
to
rescue
all
the
animals,
both
cats
and
dogs,
that
we
could
all
monies
that
we
raised
went
to
the
animals
we
would
have.
C
If
we
would
have
had
the
money
that
care
has
now,
we
would
have
been
able
sorry
we
would
have
been
able
to
fund
low-cost,
spay
and
neuters
community
education,
outreach
to
help
the
elderly
keep
their
animals
and
much
more.
We
would
never
have
dreamed
of
sitting
on
13
times
our
operating
expenses.
We
that
were
on
the
board,
always
tried
to
listen
to
all
volunteers
and
we
have
yearly
elections
that
were
open
to
anyone
that
wanted
to
serve
on
the
board.
All
volunteers
were
welcome
as
long
as
they
never
did
anything
harmful
to
animals.
C
Volunteers
were
never
told
that
they
were
not
no
longer
welcome
at
the
shelter.
If
they
disagreed
with
things,
the
board
was
doing.
We
encourage
volunteers
that
had
new
ideas.
We
were
all
there
for
the
animals.
We
never
felt
that
the
funds
donated
to
care
instead
of
the
evanston
animal
shelter
were
going
to
be
spent
any
differently.
All
monies
went
to
the
animals.
I
left
care
because
I
moved
to
California
when
I
came
back,
I
was
told
that
I
was
not
welcome
at
the
evanston
animal
shelter.
C
E
D
I'm
sorry
I
thought
someone
who
left
their
cell
phone
or
something
I'm,
Karen
Strauss
I'm
a
20-year
resident
of
Evanston.
I
live
in
Judy's,
ward
and
I
have
volunteered
at
carenow
for
14
years,
and
what
I
wanted
to
say
to
the
committee
is
that
there
are
real
costs
if
you
delay
a
decision
on
this
matter
and
I
wanted
to
go
through
with
you.
What
some
of
those
costs
were
the
costs
of
delay.
D
First,
the
few
volunteers
who
have
been
rescuing
the
dogs
who
failed
cares
tests
have
spent
over
ten
thousand
dollars
out
of
their
own
pockets
and
the
longer
this
drags
on,
the
more
they
are
forced
to
spend.
Second
care
is
turning
away.
New
volunteers
like
any
volunteer
organization
care,
has
a
normal
attrition
rate
with
some
volunteers,
leaving
in
new
ones,
starting
to
take
their
place
only
right
now,
new
ones
are
not
starting.
D
Care
has
stopped,
holding
new
volunteer
orientations,
which
means
that
the
crew
now
running
the
shelter
will
get
overtime,
smaller
and
smaller
until
there
is
a
skeleton
staff
by
the
time
the
city
decides
how
to
handle
this
matter.
Third
care
has
no
incentive,
and,
frankly,
on
this
point,
who
could
blame
them?
Care
has
no
incentive
during
this
unsettled
time
to
spend
money
on
supplies
and
the
needs
of
the
shelter.
D
F
You
Alicia
ELISA
Kaplan,
yes,
and
you
have
Vicki's
time.
I
have
the
coke
time
and
I
believe
Susan's
time
at
all.
Okay,
all
right!
Thank
you,
but
this
won't
be
long.
We
continue
to
be
concerned
about
the
very
different
goals
that
care
and
the
city
of
Evanston
appear
to
have
for
the
animal
shelter.
We
believe
this
will
continue
to
cause
conflicts
almost
every
over.
Almost
every
issue
involved
in
running
the
shelter
in
animal
care,
use
of
funds,
adoption
practices,
everything
if
care
does
stay.
However,
certain
provisions
of
this
new
agreement,
we
believe,
are
absolutely
essential.
F
First,
the
evanston
animal
shelter
fund.
We
strongly
support
the
creation
of
a
new
animal
shelter
fund
as
a
way
to
help
solve
some
of
the
current
problems
and
disputes
over
fundraising.
Since
Karen
the
city
appear
to
have
different
goals
for
their
donations.
We
need
to
make
sure,
there's
a
fun
dedicated
to
the
Evanston,
shelter
and
evanston
animals.
F
Second,
the
new
board
of
animal
care
and
control.
If
care
stays,
we
believe
that
the
new
board
is
essential.
The
city
did
not
know
about
many
of
the
problems
with
the
shelter
until
recently.
We
hope
this
new
board
will
help
the
city
stay
informed
about
what's
going
on
at
the
shelter,
so
that
this
doesn't
happen
again.
We
also
hope
the
board
will
ensure
that
the
shelter
is
operated
and
governed
in
a
way
that
fits
evanston's,
values
and
goals.
Third
behavior
evaluations.
F
We
also
support
the
city's
increased
involvement
in
the
behavior
evaluation
process
and
its
use
of
certified
evaluators
will
use
the
ASPCA
safer
test.
Safer
is
more
standardized
than
other
tests,
because
it
requires
certification
and
it's
predictive
power
is
better
supported
by
data
research
on
the
appropriate
use
of
such
tests
is
constantly
evolving
and
the
city
and
the
volunteer
organization
in
place
should
be
prepared
to
adapt
accordingly.
F
Fourth
rescue
procedures.
We
welcome
more
formalized
procedures
for
transferring
dogs
to
rescue
and
the
provision
of
funds
for
those
dogs.
We
are,
however,
concerned
about
Cara's
ability
to
advocate
for
all
dogs,
including
those
that
it
chooses
not
to
have
in
its
adoption
program.
Karis
past
history
suggests
that
care
may
not
be
able
to
perform
this
function
as
well
as
a
different
organization.
In
short,
if
carrots
days,
we
believe
that
these
agreement
provisions
are
absolutely
necessary.
However,
we
worry
about
continuing
conflicts
between
the
city
and
care.
F
G
And
she
remembers
the
committee
good
evening,
starting
on
page
two
of
your
packet,
his
communication
from
me
regarding
some
work
that
the
staff
has
done
over
the
last
couple
of
weeks.
You
gave
a
sort
of
a
broad
assignment,
and
that
is
to
to
look
at
the
policies
and
procedures
for
the
management
operation
of
the
shelter
moving
forward,
and
so
what
we
have
before
you
this
evening
is
our
response
to
that
is
really
comes
into
four
different
areas
of
the
first
is
an
animal
control
policy
that
Animal
Control
Policy.
G
What
we've
tried
to
do
is
go
through
the
things
that
we're
contained
are
contained
in
the
standard
operating
procedures
currently
used
by
the
police
department,
and
we
feel
that
that,
in
addition
to
some
other
changes,
we
think
makes
sense
so
that
begins
on
page
31
of
your
packet
and
I'll
just
go
through
some
of
the
headings
and
would
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
After
my
presentation
so
beginning
on
page
31,
section
2
talks
about
the
behavior
evaluation,
training
and
oversight.
Seeing
that
that
a
process
would
be,
we
shifted
more
toward
a
city-based
process.
G
We're
also
has
been
mentioned
by
the
speaker's
recommending
a
board
of
animal
care
and
control
which
we'll
talk
about
a
little
bit
and
so
that
that
body
would
be
involved
in
the
evaluation
of
the
testing.
Also
on
section
to
see
on
the
bottom
of
page
31
outlining
how
the
evaluation
training
would
occur,
top
of
page
32,
continuing
the
logistics
of
the
evaluation,
setting
that
out
a
little
bit
more
specifically
dealing
with
evaluation
results
and
then
kennel
enrichment.
G
Finally,
procedures
regarding
removal
from
the
shelter
section
three
dealing
with
vaccinations
and
spay
and
neuter
policy
requires
vaccination
of
all
dogs
and
capsules
in
72
hours
admission
to
the
shelter,
and
that
goes
on
to
talk
about
more
specifics.
There
spay
neuter
and
other
medical
care
dealing
with
vaccines,
which
has
been
an
issue.
That's
been
raised
before
the
committee
section.
G
Four
deals
with
rescue
procedures,
the
use
of
foster
homes
and
rescue
group
outreach
how
the
decision
for
rescue
would
be
used
for
dogs
placement
efforts
after
post
rescue,
section,
five
deals
with
feral
cats,
a
section
six
deals
with
record
keeping
and
access
to
records
and
public
relations
and
then
finally,
section
dealing
with
communication.
So
again,
what
we
tried
to
do
with
this
policy
is
the
take
what
has
been
part
of
the
standard
operating
procedures
for
the
police
department
and
make
appropriate
changes
pursuant
to
the
discussion
that
the
committee's
had
over
the
last
few
months.
G
The
second,
the
second
section
deals
with
an
animal
shelter
fund.
I.
Think
one
of
the
issues
that
has
been
raised
through
these
discussions
is
the
lack
of
clarity
as
to
where
we're
funds
that
are
donated
go
to
support
animals.
Certainly
care
has
been
collecting
funds
over
a
period
of
time,
but
the
city
has
not
had
a
formal,
readily
accessible
place
for
residents
and
others
interested
to
make
donations
to
the
animal
shelter
so
we're
proposing
that
that
fund
would
be
created.
G
The
third
point
is
the
creation
of
a
board
of
animal
care
and
control,
and
we're
proposing
that
the
mayor
with
the
approval
of
the
City
Council,
would
appoint
a
seven-member
board
that
would
be
known
as
the
Board
of
animal
care
and
control.
This
would
include
to
City
Council
members,
one
member
representing
the
volunteer
animal
organization
and
four
members
at
large.
G
So,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
that's
a
brief
overview
of
what
is
before
you.
As
you
know,
we
made
this
draft
available
to
the
committee
and
members
of
the
public
early
last
week.
I've
also
included
on
page
four
of
your
packet,
a
summary
of
the
26
emails
that
were
received
with
comments
and
those
largely
fall
into
three
categories.
Number
one.
G
Many
commenters
felt
that
we
did
not
deal
enough
with
the
animal
control
policy
regarding
cats
and
that
there
was
a
feeling
that
the
issues
regarding
the
cats
at
the
shelter
needed
to
be
fleshed
out
more,
and
so
we
are
plan,
would
be
to
come
back
before
your
next
meeting.
With
additional
sections
dealing
with
with
cats
number
two
questions
raised.
G
Regarding
fundraising
for
the
animal
shelter,
there
were
questions
as
to
why
the
city
would
raise
funds
for
the
animal
shelter
and
also
questions
regarding
what
would
happen
to
funds
raised
by
care
that
were
collected
to
support
the
shelter,
certainly
from
a
stat
perspective.
Other
our
facility
needs
at
the
animal
shelter.
Some
funds
that
were
collected
would
be
used
toward
that
and
I
think.
The
committee
will
ultimately
need
to
determine
other
issues
regarding
the
funds
that
care
has
collected
over
time
to
support
the
animal
shelter
and
then.
G
Finally,
the
third
major
issue
raised
by
the
commenters
dealt
with
closures.
Several
members
of
the
community
felt
that
there
were
should
be
additional
information
disclosed,
including
the
notes
from
the
auditor
for
the
audit
and
some
other
issues
regarding
mission,
purpose
and
experience,
and
so
those
are
the
comments
that
book
received
so
staffs
asking
the
committee
in
this
short
meeting
this
evening
to
provide
us
any
additional
feedback
that
you
have
will
be
certainly
answer
to
answer.
G
Any
questions
that
you
have
our
plan
would
be
then,
to
come
back
with
a
revised
policy
at
your
next
meeting
next
Monday
evening,
with
the
hope
that
the
committee
would
find
that
document
in
order
so
that
it
could
be
recommended
to
the
full
city
council
this
evening.
Also,
if
you
feel
that
this
is
the
right
direction,
we
would
work
with
the
law
department
to
craft
the
appropriate
ordinances
to
create
the
Board
of
animal
care
and
control
so
that
there
would
be
an
ordinance
on
that
matter
as
well.
G
We
would
then
put
it
on
the
agenda
for
the
8th
because
of
the
annual
town
meeting
next
next
week
on
tuesday,
which
is
that
date
set
by
a
state
statute.
The
city
council
will
also
a
meeting
on
that
tuesday
night,
so
we're
proposing
that
we
would
place
this
matter
on
the
city
council's
agenda
as
well
next
tuesday,
so
that
it
could
be
reported
out,
and
then
I
would
hopefully
get
direction
from
the
council
on
next
steps
at
a
time
frame
to
bring
back
additional
reporting
to
you.
G
If
you
do
have
a
set
of
criteria
that
you
feel
comfortable
with
so
I'm
here.
To
answer
any
questions
would
thank
the
law
department,
mr.
Ferrar
ms
Mason
cut
for
their
assistance
in
drafting
all
this
acting
deputy
G
Pickett
chief
headington,
the
animal
warden
of
all
been
very
helpful
as
well
so
I'd
like
to
thank
them
for
their
work.
Okay,.
H
You,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
mr.
Bob
quits
and
everybody
who
contributed
to
this
draft
policy
and
agreement.
It
is
exactly
what
I
had
envisioned
as
a
the
direction
that
I
wanted
us
to
head
into,
which
was
to
really
be
much
more
explicit
in
our
expectations
for
the
operations
of
the
shelter
and
the
role
of
the
volunteer
agency.
H
Our
volunteer
partner
in
this
I'm
grateful
for
all
the
feedback
that
we've
gotten
and
that's
been
incorporated
into
this
draft
with
more
comments,
I
think
specifically
as
two
cats
and
the
funds
and-
and
we
can
talk
about
this
but
I-
think
I
want
to
make
clear
that
in
my
mind,
this
is
not
about
care,
its
first
and
foremost
about
operations
at
the
shelter
and
and
filling
in
this
big
missing
piece
of
our
puzzle,
which
was
what
do
we
do
there?
But
what
role
does
everyone
play
and
have?
H
We
are
the
practices
at
the
shelter,
reflective
of
both
best
practices
and
community
values,
and
this
this
policy
gets
us
there.
I
think
this
is
our
first
time
that
we've
really
grappled
with
it
in
this
way
and
and
I,
it's
I
think
it's
a
really
good
product
so
that
we
can
find
than
the
right
volunteer
agency
and
I.
Don't
know
if
the
voluntary
agency
that
we've
engaged
at
this
point
has
the
capacity
in
the
leadership
to
help
us
achieve
our
goals
in
the
way
of
best
practices
for
shelter
operations,
but
I'm.
H
Thinking
that
there
are
so
many
terms
of
this
policy.
That
I
would
consider
non-negotiable
and
too
important
to
to
compromise
on.
Even
so
with
that
understanding,
I'd
want
to
send
this
to
the
city
manager,
to
negotiate
with
care,
and
if
care
decides
that
it
doesn't
have
an
interest
or
capacity
to
operate
under
the
terms
that
we
would
propose,
then
we
would
turn
it
around
and
issue
an
RFP
for
a
successor
agency
to
operate
at
the
shelter,
but
in
the
meantime,
for
an
issue
that
has
generated
so
much
passion
and
so
much
hyperbole.
H
Frankly,
we're
going
in
the
right
direction
now.
Finally,
it
feels
like,
and
and
the
shelter
will
be
on
better
footing,
six
months
from
now
than
it
is,
there
will
be
some
difficult
transition,
as
we
figure
out
how
we're
going
to
apply
these
terms
and
and
what
these
practices
mean
for
our
animals
and
the
staff.
The
shelter
but
I
think
this
is
a
great
start
and
exactly
what
I
envisioned
when
I
suggested
that
we
take
this
route.
Yeah.
Okay,.
I
Thanks
truck,
let's
thank
you
for
putting
this
together,
along
with
the
law
department.
Could
you
share
with
with
us
and
the
public
if
you've
received
in
a
response
from
care
regarding
these
changes
were
thinking
about
and
I
wasn't
sure
if
we
didn't
hear
any
from
any
board
members
from
care
and
I'm
wondering
if
we
have
any
board
members
in
attendance
this
evening,.
G
I
A
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
do
think
the
report
is
going
in
the
right
direction.
Wally.
So
thank
you.
Thank
chief
thank
everybody
who
was
involved
in
it
at
this
point.
The
recommended
action
would
be
to
direct
you
to
negotiate
a
one-year
agreement
with
care
and
that's
not
something
that
I
can
support
at
this
time.
I
think
if
we're
going
to
be
making
these
changes,
it's
in
our
best
interest
as
a
city
to
reach
out
to
other
organizations
as
many
actually
as
we
can
to
find
out
how
they
operate
in
their
best
practices
and
I.
K
G
K
To
move
it
well,
I
mean
it
might
as
well've
gun
my
spam
folder.
It
there's
nothing
here:
I
hate
and
I,
don't
I!
As
with
a
zalman
fist
says:
I
can't
support
a
direction
where
we
are
trying
to
make
a
connection
with
an
organization,
and
they
can't
even
give
us
the
slightest
of
feedback
except
to
say
it
didn't
meet.
With
the
committee's
request.
H
Go
with
that
I
think
I
think
alderman
tend
them.
What
it
means
is
that
they
expect
to
have
that
discussion,
not
negotiate
in
public
necessarily,
but
they'll
expect
to
negotiate
with
the
city,
manager
and
well
I.
Think
the
agreement
is
entirely
as
I
said,
consistent
with
the
committee's
direction,
the
leadership
of
care
and
help
me.
H
And
if
we
all
understand
that
there
are
certain
non-negotiables
and
those
non-negotiables
are
what
care
wants
to
negotiate,
that
we
won't
have
an
agreement,
and
and
and
the
current
leadership
of
care
will
not
be
the
continuing
volunteer
organization.
So
giving
giving
the
city
manager
direction
to
negotiate
doesn't
mean
that
there
will
be
a
successful
negotiation.
It
means
that
we
are
proceeding
with
the
process
that
we
put
in
place
to
be
fair
in
this
case
and
and
we're
giving
our
city
manager
the
universe
in
which
he
can
negotiate,
and
we
may
find
that.
H
It's
that
it
specifically
defined
by
this
policy
and
by
this
agreement
and
and
as
I
stated
before.
You
know
the
neutral
observer
in
this-
that
care
can
decide
at
that
point
to
walk
away,
and
the
leadership
of
care
may
well
decide
to
do
that.
In
which
case
we
move
to
the
next
stage,
which
would
be
we'll
know,
then
either
in
a
week
or
in
the
month
of
April.
A
Well,
ultimen
grow
right,
I'm,
following
all
the
mint
in
nums
thought
in
terms
of
what
does
it
really
say
and
I
think
that
we're
all
grown-ups
and
we
all
need
to
be
able
to
say
it
is
or
it
isn't
I
mean
this
is
something
that
they
can
agree
to
or
not
agree
to,
because
they've
had
a
chance
to
look
at
it,
but
I
think
we've
been
able
to
say
that
we
want
to
be
fair.
I.
A
J
You,
madam
chair,
well,
here's
the
problem
with
that
alderman
Grover
that
I
see
is
that
we're
elected
officials
and
we
represent
the
eight
thousand
or
so
people
in
each
of
our
wards
and
there's
been
an
incredible
amount
of
public
outreach
and
comment
on
this,
and
it
may
be
that
what
care
is
looking
for.
We
don't
know
because
they
won't
come
up
to
the
microphone
and
say,
but
it
could
be
what
they're
the
leadership
is
looking
for
is
to
negotiate
behind
closed
doors
with
a
city
manager
and,
frankly,
I'm
not
willing
to
do
that.
J
We're
all
here,
there's
an
audience
here.
The
city
manager
is
here
and
why
won't
care
step
up
to
the
microphone?
This
is
the
time
for
us
to
be
talking
about
it
in
front
of
everyone
and
if
the
Committee
agrees
that
this
should
be
sent
off
to
the
city
manager
and
care
that
I'm
going
to
ask
for
that
to
be
an
open
meeting,
because
I
want
all
of
the
people
who
are
here
tonight
to
be
able
to
attend
that
meeting
and
frankly,
I
want
to.
I
want
to
attend
it
as
well
and
comment
on
it.
J
So
this
is
the
place
to
do
it.
We've
we've!
This
has
been
going
on
for
well
over
a
year,
some
sign
from
the
care
board.
What
do
you
want
to
do?
What
what's?
Why
aren't
you?
Responding
would
be
very
helpful
tonight
that
might
change
my
mind,
but
at
this
point,
I
think
it's
absolutely
wrong
to
go
behind
closed
doors.
I
could
never
support
that.
Well,.
H
Maybe
the
question
is,
then:
not
two
questions
number
one
care:
do
you
want
to
negotiate
with
us
to
this
current
care
board?
Do
you
want
to
negotiate
with
us
and
number
two
would
be
what
about
these
terms?
I?
Don't
so
I,
guess
what
you
were
getting
at
alderman
burrows?
Is
we
don't
know
if
care
even
wants
to
negotiate
at
this
point
so
right
now
there
would
be
only
one
party
at
the
table.
H
L
So
it
was
gonna,
be
my
I
think
we're
all
in
general
agreements
in
terms
of
all
we
need
to
move
forward,
it's
just
a
matter
of
putting
it
to
a
timeline
right,
and
so
that's
the
only
thing
that
I
didn't
see
in
a
very
well
written
report.
So
I
I'm
open
to
someone
making
a
motion
to
just
put
a
timeline
on
this.
Well.
L
K
Thank
you
maybe
manage
about
which
you
could
confirm,
but
I
believe
the
intention
of
this
meeting
tonight
was
to
come
to
that
decision
based
on
a
draft
that
was
put
forth
to
the
community
had
and
the
administration
that
care
and
wish.
There
were
quite
a
few
responses
over
the
past
week
a
lot
of
expensive
responses,
but
this
meeting
was
to
determine
it
was
that
point
at
which
we
were
going
to
ask
care
to
say:
can
you
eat
these
terms
are
not,
and
if
not,
I
think
it
was
he.
K
Maybe
it
wasn't
said
by
the
obvious
question:
is
what
more
do
you
need?
I
don't
think
that
there
is
any.
I
would
agree.
The
I
think
the
notion
of
a
closed-door
meeting
is
this
senseless.
Back
a
year
where,
were
a
year
ago
we
had
a
year
of
closed-door
meetings
and
now
we're
at
the
point.
You
know
where
we've
gone
through
two
very
painful
public
meetings
by
the
special
committee
and
a
couple
other
Human,
Services
committee's
and
I.
Don't
you
know
I,
don't
think
we
can
turn
this
ship
around.
G
K
J
If
we
do
go
ahead
tonight
and
approve
Wally
to
negotiate
with
care,
there's
some
other
things
that
I
want
to
make
sure
that
are
in
there,
especially
concerning
the
money
and
what
money
they're
willing
to
devote
to
improvements
at
the
events
in
animal
shelter.
I
think
that's
a
very,
very
big,
important
part
of
this
and
I'd
like
to
know
that
by
next
week,
if
you
do
meet
with
them
during
this
week,
I
don't
know
what
the
I'm
sorry
I,
don't
know.
What
the
you
know.
G
Eighth
is
April
twenty-eighth
so
that
it
would
make
sense,
then,
for
me
to
come
back
to
the
full
council
on
April,
twenty-eighth
and
say
either
this
has
been
successor
has
not
been
success
in
order
to
keep
moving.
I
agree
with
the
members
of
the
committee
who
said
it's
important
to
keep
this
process
moving
forward.
I
agree
one
hundred
percent,
but.
G
G
G
G
Again,
it's
difficult
to
to
basically
I
don't
mean
to
correct
the
committee,
but
again
my
recommendation
is
your
city
manager
is
this
is
too
important
to
have
this
just
come
from
this
committee
that
it
really
needs
to
come
with
the
committee's
recommendation
from
folk
to
the
full
City
Council.
Well,.
A
H
While
you,
then
city
manager,
incorporate
additional
language
on
the
cat
policies
and
procedures
and
raising
the
fundraising,
let's
discuss
that
and
the
additional
disclosures
about
the
volunteer
animal
organization
incorporated
all
that
I
think
this.
That
would
be
fine
with
the
committee.
Could
we
also,
then,
please
ask
care
or
require
care
to
give
us
a
letter
of
intent
to
engage
within
the
next
week
so
that
by
Monday
we
know
whether
or
not
cares
in
the
game
or
not.
Okay,
right
and
let's.
G
Then
the
full
council
will
agenda
is
the
issue
for
the
council
meeting,
which
will
be
posted
prior
to
this
meeting
broadly
enough
autumn.
Fisk
I.
Think
then
too.
If
that's
the
case
and
they're
not
interested
interested
in
proceeding,
then
the
full
council
can
act
on
that
information
either
direct
me
to
talk
with
them
anyway
or
say.
If
they've
indicated
they
don't
want
to
be
talked
to,
then
we
can
move
forward
with
other
plans.
A
J
A
J
G
And
maybe
all
of
it,
maybe
if
I
could
maybe
take
a
stab
at
this.
I
think
the
going
forward
piece
is
pretty
straightforward,
that
if
we
have
a
fund,
it
is
for
the
support
of
the
shelter.
As
I
indicated
previously,
I
think
that
there's
going
to
be
capital
needs,
so
I
think
we
would
make
that
first
and
foremost,
but
I
think
the
the
larger
question
is
the
money
that's
been
raised
by
care
in
the
name
of
supporting
the
avastin
animal
shelter.
This
it's
a
nonprofit
organization.
G
People
can
give
money
to
nonprofit
organizations
if
they
like.
I
don't
believe
that
we
have
the
ability
to
take
that
back
or
to
go
to
care
and
to
retrieve
that
funds,
but
the
reality
is:
is
that
all
their
documents
that
have
created
the
organization
all
clearly
say
that
it
was
created
to
support
the
avast,
an
animal
shelter?
G
That
was
raised
in
the
name
of
evanston
animal
shelter
to
the
operate
elsewhere,
because
my
sense,
given
the
the
faxes
that
we've
gone
through
over
the
last
several
weeks,
is
that
perhaps
care
has
another
plan
and
if
they
do
have
another
plan
with
the
dollars
over
1
million
dollars,
they
have
enabled
raised
to
support
the
evident
animal
shelter
likely
that
that
facilities
outside
of
Evanston
were
a
bigger,
larger
community.
I
think
everybody
understands
that,
but
at
the
same
time,
that
money
was
raised
and
collected
in
the
name
of
the
artist,
an
animal
shelter.
J
If
they
decide
not
to
do
that,
that
they're
going
to
have
to
explain
to
the
residents
in
the
city
of
Evanston,
why
they're
not
doing
that
and
that
will
be
there
their
charge
if
we
have
no
control
over
recouping
recouping
those
funds,
I
like
to
see
in
the
agreement
a
little
bit
more
specifics
about
how
the
rescue
team
is
going
to
work,
how
if
care,
remains
how
they're
going
to
work
side
by
side?
My
understanding
is
that
the
rescue
team
right
now
has
spent
over
ten
thousand
dollars.
I
think
that
was
the
testimony
her.
J
Where
volunteers
and
what
we
always
try
to
encourage
people
on
Evanston
to
do
is
is
step
up
and
take
ownership
for
the
city
and
help
out
where
you
can,
and
these
are
people
who
really
did
do
that
I
think
at
at
great
personal
risk
and
I'm
proud
that
they
did
that,
but
I
would
like.
I
would
like
to
see
what
we
can
do
to
negotiate
repayment
to
them
and
whether
that's
care
repaying
them
or
the
city
repaying
them.
I
think
it's
most
appropriate
for
care
to
fund
those
rescue
efforts.
I
Great
mr.
Goff
quits
could
and
I
not
sure
if
mr.
Ferrara
has
already
done
this,
if
we've
reached
out
to
the
IRS
or
consulted
an
attorney
that
specializes
in
philanthropic
issues,
because
as
aldrin
Fisk
was
talking
about
what
the
care
should
or
shouldn't
do
with
their
money,
the
city
of
Evanston
really
has
no
control
over
that.
E
Madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
grant
for
our
corporation
counsel,
alderman
Burruss
I
have
looked
at
that
issue
preliminary
and
under
the
IRS
regulations.
It's
quite
clear
that
the
organization
itself
is
the
port
of
call
relative
to
how
it
collects
how
it
represents
its
use
of
funds,
how
it
represents
the
expenditure
of
those
funds,
how
it
abortions
those
funds,
how
it
reports
those
funds.
We've
done
some
work
in
terms
of
getting
the
charitable
profile
through
the
the
bright
star
organization.
E
We've
looked
at
the
tax
returns
really
in
terms
of
the
the
one-on-one
interface
between
a
donation
with
an
organization
that
is
between
the
individual
donor
and
the
organization
itself.
There
are
no
specific
agreements
or
documents
that
the
city
ever
executed
with
with
care
on
that
issue,
so
there
are
a
and
again
the
501
C
3
regs,
and
the
IRS
pubs
that
speak
to
this
are
quite
clear
that
any
donor
upon
demand
can
can
inspect
the
books
and,
and
the
treasurer
of
the
organization
has
to
have
to
make
those
available
for
reasonable
time
of
inspection
right.
I
I
I,
don't
think
that
we
can
do
because
we
haven't
given
the
money,
but
as
we're
talking
about
where
the
money
can
what
they
can
do
with
the
money,
what
they
can't
do
with
the
money.
It's
something
to
look
into,
because
donors
do
have
strong
rights
over
what
they
give
to
and
that's
being
used
properly.
It's
that's
my
point.
K
You
another
question
related
to
that
would
be.
Would
it
be
appropriate
to
contact
the
attorney
general's
office,
Lisa
Madigan's
office,
to
get
a
sense
of
whether
care
was
in
fact
representing
itself
properly
to
potential
donors
and
donors?
It
seems
to
me
that
the
IRS
is
going
to
a
little
interest
in
this,
but
it
might
be
a
matter
of
how
care
has
promoted
itself
and
how
involved
they
were
in
soliciting,
as
specifically
evanston
donors
with
the
intention,
rightly
so,
with
the
understanding
that
this
was
going
to
the
heavens.
An
animal
shelter
home.
H
Getting
my
first
question
is
covered
by
alderman
burrows
about
the
501
C,
that's
legal
responsibilities
for
funds
raised
here
and
and
then
alderman
Fisk.
You
suggested
that
we
should
add
into
this
agreement
and
policy
provisions
addressing
how
care
would
work
with
rescue
organizations.
Did
you
mean
any
any
any
volunteer
organization,
because
we,
you
know
we're
drafting
what.
J
H
J
That
what
you're
good
right
well,
that's
part
of
how
the
operating
procedure
of
the
of
the
shelter
itself-
yes,
but
what?
What
we
would
end
up?
Okay,
what's
pretty
much
spelled
out,
is
that
you
would
have
a
rescue
team
operating
with
the
animal
warden,
who
would
oversee
the
entire
operations
at
the
shelter,
but
also
having
care
working
side
by
side?
And
that's
and
that's
what
needs
to
be
spelled
out?
Because
if
you
have,
if
you
have
to
carry.
A
A
H
J
Well,
you've
got
you've.
You've
really
got
to
specify
the
rescue
team.
The
problem
that
I've
got
with
that
is
that
that
sort
of
says,
okay
well
care.
You
can
operate
the
way
you
want
to
your
private
organization.
You
can
accept
the
dogs,
you
want
to
accept
and
you
can
not
accept
the
dogs.
You
don't
want
to
accept.
J
H
H
I,
don't
know
what
we're
drafting
policies,
procedures
that
are
that
we
are
going
to
work
for
anybody,
who's
operating
volunteer
at
the
shelter
and
it
just
happens
to
be
a
care
who
maybe
is
at
the
table
now.
Maybe
not
we
don't
know
so.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
policies
we're
writing
our
generic
right
and
the
volunteer
organization
and
don't
specify
care
because
and
that's
fine.
That's.
J
I
agree
with
you
on
that,
but
it's
it's
difficult
in
this
particular
document,
because
the
document
is
sort
of
focused
on
on
care.
There's
an
the
the
undercurrent
is
care
in
the
document,
and
how
is
this
all
going
to
work
and
I
think
we
have
to?
We
have
to
tell
our
animal
ward
and
how
that's
going
to
work.
I
A
A
You
know
document
for
that
as
well.
I,
don't
know
how
anybody
else
feels
about
it,
but
we
we
can't
mix
it.
We
can't
tell
them
what
to
do
as
a
private,
not-for-profit
and
I
think.
We
clearly
understand
that
if
we
have
concerns
about
it,
we
can
certainly
you
know,
list
those
and
get
those
shared
with
the
council
when
we
make
a
recommendation.
But
it's
not
a
part
of
this
document.
I
agree.
J
While
you
what's
the
value
of
what
we
have
given
at
the
shelter
to
care,
I
mean
we've,
given
what
free
rent
and
do
we
know
the
value
of
that?
Can
we
figure
that
out?
Can
we
take
a
wild
guess
at
what
I
mean
it
during
the
next
week?
Can
we
take
a
wild
guess
at
that
I.
G
J
A
Okay,
okay,
great
all,
right,
no
more
lights!
All
my
Grover
you're
on
yeah.
H
I
was
just
thinking
as
to
the
question
about
funds
already
raised
by
care.
Perhaps
we
can
just
get
a
legal
opinion
as
to
what
are
the
responsibilities
of
a
501c3
and
its
fundraising
and
leave
it
at
that.
For
now
and
in
the
meantime
again,
I
want
to
distinguish
between
the
care
board
and
the
care
volunteers,
because
there
are
some
really
wonderful,
dedicated
compassionate
people
who
are
every
day
at
the
shelter
serving
the
animals,
and
they
aren't
necessarily
reflected
by
the
current
care,
leadership
and
care
board
and.
H
A
K
Go
ahead,
no
GI,
my
use
of
the
word
care
really
is
just
shorthand
for
may
care
board
of
directors.
So
so
there's
no
confusion
out.
There
are
just
any
our
wonderful
volunteers
and
most
volunteers
that
are
terrific
and
really
want
to
just
work
with
the
animals
and
do
something
good
for
the
community.
So
thank
you
all
absolutely.
A
Okay,
ready
for
I'm
trying
to
get
us
out
by
seven
come
I
lemon
Grover.
Oh
goodness,.
H
You
need
in
motion.
You
need
a
motion.
I
moved
that
as
a
committee,
we
approved
the
draft
documents
that
have
been
presented
to
us
tonight
with
the
incorporation
of
the
additional
language
as
two
cats
and
disclosures
by
the
volunteer
animal
organization
and
and
what
it
was
alderman
Fisk
suggested
about
working
with
the
rescue
organizations,
but
she's
going
to
help
us
with
the
specific
language
on
that.
H
A
A
Know,
X,
Monday,
ok,
ok,
you've
heard
the
motion.
I
mean
look
at
a
second
okay.
Are
you
ready
for
this
yeah
all
in
favor,
all
right,
any
opposed?
Okay,
all
right!
We
got
it.
Thank.