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D
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A
A
F
Good
evening,
council
members,
my
name
is
Kristen
Kennard
and
I.
Am
the
deputy
director
at
the
Moran
Center
for
Youth
advocacy?
I,
am
here
tonight
to
strongly
encourage
the
Human
Services
committee
to
support
the
honorary
street
name,
sign
application,
application
for
Janet
Alexander
Davis
for
more
than
15
years,
Miss
Davis
has
served
on
the
Moran
Center's
board
of
directors.
The
Moran
Center
provides
integrated
legal,
social
work
and
restorative
services
to
disinvested
youth,
young
adults
and
their
families
in
Evanston
to
improve
their
quality
at
life
of
Life
at
home,
at
school
and
in
the
community.
F
In
addition,
Miss
Davis
recently
joined
the
Moran
Center's
restorative
justice
team
as
a
community
peace
Builder
through
this
work,
Miss
Davis
is
working
with
a
team
of
Youth
and
elders
committed
to
furthering
the
Moran
Center's
vision
of
building
a
restorative
Community,
a
vision
where
relationships
are
centered
and
the
community
leads
the
way
when
it
comes
to
repairing
harm.
Miss
Davis
has
dedicated
her
life
to
bettering
the
lives
of
Evanston
residents
through
Community
activism
and
building
a
more
Equitable
and
restorative
Community.
She
is
beyond
deserving
of
this
honor
again
I
encourage
your
support
of
Miss
Davis.
G
Good
evening,
good
evening,
council
members,
my
name
is
Joy
Anissa,
Russell
and
I'm
here
in
full
support
of
Janet
Alexander
Davis
receiving
an
honorary
street
name.
Sign
I
have
known
her
since
2003
and
I
know
that
she
has
lived
in
the
Fifth
Ward
for
the
better
part
of
the
late
1940s
when
the
streets
were
not
paved
and
there
were
no
sidewalks.
She,
as
Kristen
Kenner,
has
said,
she's
a
fierce
advocate
for
our
community
and
especially
for
our
youth
I
like
to
quote
her
from
an
article,
her
bio
specifically
from
the
Moran
Center's
website.
G
G
As
a
child
of
the
60s
Mrs
Davis
fought
for
civil
rights
in
Evanston,
Public
Schools.
She
continued
and
expanded
her
activism
and
built
a
strong
network
with
many
Evanston
activists.
She
became
an
advocate
for
Youth
and
a
mover
and
a
Shaker
for
better
education
for
children,
especially
those
affected
by
poverty.
G
She
continues
her
work
in
ensuring
equity
for
all
residents
and
she
has
held
various
roles
throughout
her
time
in
Evanston
she
has
been
a
member
and
a
leader
with
citizens,
Greener
Evanston,
Evanston,
United,
neighbors
Habitat
for
Humanity,
Shore,
front
West,
End
area,
black
Club,
just
to
name
a
few,
and
those
are
just
some,
including
the
Moran
Center.
In
addition
to
all
of
these
organizations
that
she's
worked
with,
she
has
also
won
numerous
Civic
Awards,
so
with
that
said,
I
am
in
full
support
of
her
and
I
celebrate
her
today.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much.
A
H
Start
I'm
prakash
mohanti
Good
evening,
everyone
I'm
opposing
the
secret
band,
the
flavor
tobacco,
because
after
the
covet,
we
went
through
very
hard
time
and
slowly
slowly
the
way
we
are
getting
our
customers
back,
it's
been
very
hard
for
us,
so
if
you
can
consider
that
not
to
ban
the
cigarettes,
flavored
tobaccos,
that's
my
request.
Okay,.
A
I
I'm
here
to
discuss
hs3
ban
on
Flavor
tobacco,
vape
and
Menthol
products.
Dear
council
members
today
we'll
hear
discussions
regarding
this.
We've
already
heard
one
regarding
the
Restriction
of
the
sale
of
flavor
tobacco
products,
unfortunately
necessary
steps
to
truly
make
an
impact
on
the
negative
health
issues
related
to
Tobacco,
nicotine
and
E-cigarettes
are
not
included
in
the
proposed.
I
We
ask
as
the
American
Heart
Association
to
eliminate
all
flavors
and
all
tobacco
products.
The
use
of
tobacco
Remains,
the
nation's
number
one
cause
of
preventable
death
and
recent
years
overall
youth
tobacco
use
in
Cook
County
has
continued
to
increase
largely
driven
by
the
youth
e-cigarette
use
epidemic
tobacco
companies,
Target
Youth
and
products
that
come
in
kid-friendly
candy
and
fruit.
I
Flavors
such
as
Cherry
grape
jelly,
Concan,
pina,
colada,
popcorn
and
Appletini,
also
in
colorful,
packaging,
which
is
designed
to
attract
tweens
and
teens
flavors
hide
the
bad
taste
of
tobacco
and
make
it
easier
to
try
nearly
97
percent
of
Youth
e-cigarette
users
report
using
flavored
products
While
most
report
that
flavor
products
are
key
reasons
for
their
use.
More
than
8
in
10
youth
who
have
ever
used
tobacco
products
started
with
flavored
products,
which
is
why
all
flavored
product
cigarettes
should
be
eliminated.
I
A
J
Hi
I'm
Dr
Don
Ziegler,
chair
of
the
Evanston
Health
advisory
Council,
chair
of
the
ulnary
advocacy
Committee
of
the
American
Heart
Association,
and
adjunct
associate
professor
at
UIC
School
of
Public
Health
I
strongly
support
banning
all
flavored
tobacco
products
in
Evanston.
J
J
It
hasn't
put
retail
stores
out
of
business
and
the
ban
didn't
increase
minority
communities.
Negative
interactions
with
law
enforcement,
I
have
breaking
news.
I
have
just
learned
two
hours
ago
that
the
U.S
Conference
of
Mayors
today
at
its
annual
meeting
in
Columbus
Ohio,
approved
a
resolution
that
supports
prohibiting
all
flavor
tobacco
products,
including
flavored
e-cigarettes,
menthol
cigarettes
and
flavored
cigars,
just
as
what
we
are
proposing
now.
J
K
I
would
like
to
share
with
you
why
we
support
the
naming
of
the
1700
block
of
Leland
Avenue
to
honor
Janet
Alexander
Davis
Janet
loves
the
City
of
Evanston
and
the
community,
and
she
has
always
worked
and
continues
to
work,
to
make
Evanston
the
community
a
place
for
all
for
the
community
as
Patrick
Keenan
Devlin
executive
director
at
the
Moran
Center
or
members
of
the
Everson
environmental
justice
Coalition
about
Janice
commitment
and
efforts.
Janet
is
involved
in
the
community
when
the
McGaw
YMCA
celebrated
the
Emerson
Street
YMCA
for
its
historic
significance.
K
My
husband,
Robert
and
I
reached
out
to
Janet
to
serve
on
the
committee,
because
we
knew
if
Janet
is
on
your
team.
She
would
make
a
difference
and
she
did.
It
was
a
wonderful
Community
celebration
for
all
of
Edison
and
we
still
think
Jana
today
for
her
involvement
in
the
Fifth
Ward
Janet
participates
in
many
Ward
activities.
She
is
continually
working
to
improve
the
lives
of
the
residents
as
former
Alderman
Dolores
Holmes
or
Alderman
Bobby
Burns.
They
know
Janet
and
her
efforts
for
all
of
the
residents.
K
Leland
Avenue
remember:
Janet,
grew
up
on
Leland
Avenue.
Today
she
is
active
in
the
block,
Club
she's,
a
worker,
a
doer.
That's
who
Janet
is
ask
her
neighbors
either
knew
you
know.
New
and
Evanston
is
up
to
10
years
or
long
time,
neighbors
of
30
plus
years.
Their
response
will
be
the
same.
A
great
neighbor
she
cares.
She
reaches
out.
Janice
supports
Janet
is
a
supporter
of
the
Evanston
Community
The
Fifth
Ward
Leland
Avenue.
Because
of
her
efforts.
A
L
Good
evening
to
the
committee
good.
A
L
I'm
also
speaking
tonight
in
support
of
Janet
Alexander
Davis
I've
worked
closely
over
quite
a
few
years,
with
Janet
on
multiple
volunteer
efforts
and
strongly
support
the
proposed
street
name
in
her
honor.
There
are
many
reasons
Janet
should
receive
this
honor,
but
I
thought
I'd
I
would
highlight
three
areas
in
particular
tonight,
first
Janet
has
dedicated
Decades
of
her
life
to
her
volunteer
work
in
Evanston.
L
There
isn't
enough
time
to
list
all
the
causes
that
she's
worked
with
over
her
lifetime,
but,
however,
currently
at
the
age
of
80
Janet
is
co-chair
of
environmental
justice.
Evanston
a
board
member
of
the
Moran
Center,
an
advocate
pushing
for
the
best
design
practices
to
be
used
in
building
the
new
Fifth
Ward
School,
an
active
member
of
the
West
End
block
club
and
is
involved
with
numerous
other
activities.
L
L
The
third
reason
Janet
deserves
this
honor
is
their
connection
to
and
love
for,
Evanston
I
think.
As
we
also
heard
earlier,
Janet's
family
has
resided
in
Evanston
since
the
1930s,
the
house
she
and
James
live
in
today
was
bought
by
our
grandmother
and
Uncle
75
years
ago
and
I
think
it's
noteworthy
that
this
house
is
on
the
Block
that
is
proposed
to
be
named
for
Janet.
L
L
So
for
these
reasons
and
many
others
that
could
not
be
communicated
in
the
time
available,
the
Human
Services
committee
should
give
due
consideration
to
approving
the
street
naming
for
Janet
Alexander
Davis.
She
absolutely
deserves
this
honor
for
all
that
she
has
given
to
her
neighbors
and
the
city
during
her
80
years
in
Evanston.
Thank
you
and
if
I
can
maybe
just
squeeze
out
my
two
seconds.
Okay,
I,
don't
know
if
she
is
able
to
call
in
but
I
know
that
city
council,
member
Dolores,
Holmes.
L
Just
want
to
make
sure
about
that
and
two
other
people-
Jerry
garl
and
Carolyn
Lehmann,
couldn't
make
it
tonight
and
they
actually
wrote
letters,
and
hopefully
those
letters
got
to
everybody
here.
Yes,.
A
M
I
am
grateful.
That
I
am
here
allowed
me
this
opportunity.
My
name
is
Ina
melnikov
nice
to
meet
you
I'm
a
little
bit
caught
by
surprise.
That
I
would
be
given
a
chance
to
talk
but
I'm
happy
for
this
opportunity.
Grateful
I
live
at
9
10
Oakton
at
the
Oakton
Gables
a
condominium
building.
It's
a
Historic
Landmark
building
on
the
intersection
of
Ridge
and
Oakton
I
live
here
with
my
husband
since
2003.
M
in
20
about
2018,
the
New
York
Condominium
Association
board
was
elected.
A
new
group
of
leadership
came
to
the
like
management
situation
and
they
produced
a
number
of
changes.
Some
are
quite
beneficial
for
the
building
and
some
turn
out
to
be
quite
regrettable,
such
as,
for
example,
we
live
on
the
high
first
floor
and
the
the
garden
apartment
downstairs
was
altered
to
the
extent
that
they
created
this
suspended
ceiling.
M
Pretty
much
like
here
with
openings
that
do
not
lead
to
the
ventilation
pipes
but
absorbing
all
the
air
brings
all
the
air
combined
with
cooking
and
heat
upstairs
to
our
condominium.
So,
during
the
heating
system
there
is,
during
night
months
of
the
year
cooking
smells
combined
with
marijuana
Amplified
by
the
heat
abroad,
directly
to
apartment
condominium.
That
makes
it
smell
like
a
Hot,
Dog
Eatery.
M
So
around
seven
o'clock,
our
days
for
four
past
year,
starts
from
the
really
nauseous
smell
and
our
health
is
compromised
by
that.
Our
attempts
to
change
something
to
bring
this
matter
to
the
Condominium
Association
meetings
ended
with
nothing.
They
don't
meet
anymore.
For
about
a
year.
We
already
petition
among
the
condominium
owners.
We
received
no
reply,
they
dismissed
the
management
company
and
our
attempts
to
even
talk
to
the
people
downstairs.
They
are
renters.
Now
the
owners
met
very
unfortunate
response.
M
We
received
a
letter
from
their
lawyer
of
the
minimum
Association
inspired
by
the
board,
sees
and
desist
type
of
thing,
don't
harass,
Thy,
Neighbor
and
I'm
asking
for
the
members
of
this
Commission
in
the
city
council
and
the
mayor
to
assist
us
in
this
situation.
We
don't
know
what
to
do
and
where
to
go
any
further.
We
are
called
the
department
of
Health
and
Human
Services
Health
Department
of
Evans
City
of
Evanston.
The
inspector
showed
up
and
she
identified
the
smell
in
the
common
area.
M
She
said
that
Clean
Air
Act
really
needs
you
know
not
to
create
clean
nauseous
smells
in
the
common
area.
There
is
a
staircase,
and
so
she
did
identify
this
smell
at
the
staircase.
It
was
pretty
early
in
the
morning,
but
the
Clean
Air
Act
does
not
address
the
Clean
Air
in
this
cada
medium.
So
it's
definitely
pretty
desperate
and
unhealthy
situation.
M
Life-Threatening
situation
my
husband
has
been
diagnosed
with
asthma
and,
like
years
ago,
our
previous
Condominium
Association
produced
like
changes
in
response
to
the
the
smoke
of
the
krills
and
grills,
and
so
they
posted
this
sign.
The
Clean
Air
Act
regulates
only
the
common
area.
This
is
not
what
I
wanted
to
say
so
to
make
the
story
short.
This
pretty
much
I
wanted
to
present.
At
this
situation,
unhealthy
threatening
to
our
life,
threatening
to
our
health,
contradicts
to
the
clear
act,
Clean
Air
Act,
and
it
reflects
pretty
negatively
on
our
quality
of
life
and
I.
M
N
N
She
has
been
working
in
the
community
for
her
entire
life
and
she
is
very
good
at
it,
and
so
right
now
she
just
celebrated
80
years
of
life,
and
she
was
still
on
the
environmental
justice
committee
as
well
as
other
things,
and
so
I
want
to
say.
Thank
you
to
Janet
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
Evanston
and
Bravo
for
you
giving
her
this
honor.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
O
Okay,
thank
you
Madam,
chair
and
committee
members.
My
name
is
Thomas
Bryant
and
I'm.
The
executive
director
of
the
National
Association
of
tobacco
outlets,
a
national
retail
Trade
Organization,
with
member
stores
located
in
Evanston
I'm
speaking
tonight,
in
opposition
to
a
possible
flavored
tobacco
ban,
ordinance
an
ordinance
banning
all
flavored
tobacco
would
also
prohibit
products
which
the
U.S,
Food
and
Drug
Administration
has
authorized
for
sale,
because
the
agency
has
determined
that
certain
tobacco
products
are
appropriate
for
the
protection
of
the
public
health.
O
Also,
a
complete
ban
on
all
flavored
tobacco
products
will
shift
sales
from
the
city's
licensed
retailers
to
unregulated
illicit
sellers
over
which
the
city
has
no
control,
and
these
sellers
will
sell
tobacco
products
to
anyone,
including
youth,
who
has
cash.
Moreover,
Evanston
residents
will
simply
drive
to
neighboring
cities
to
buy
their
preferred
tobacco
products.
O
It
is
also
important
to
note
that
the
FDA
has
denied
the
marketing
of
more
than
25
million
individual
electronic
cigarette
and
nicotine
vapor
products,
the
vast
majority
of
which
are
flavored
and
they
needed
to
be
removed
from
the
market
with
the
fga,
taking
these
actions
and
the
likelihood
of
creating
an
illicit
Market
which
would
be
detrimental
to
the
public
health.
We
ask
that
the
City
of
Evanston
not
proceed
with
a
flavored
tobacco
ban
ordinance.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
P
Good
evening
my
name
is
Camille
Cummings
and
I'm,
a
member
of
the
African-American
Tobacco
Control
Leadership
Council.
We
advocate
for
the
black
community
and
other
communities
of
color,
who
are
often
left
out
of
life-saving
Public.
Health
legislation.
I
really
thank
you
for
considering
this
item
that
for
decades,
has
negatively
impacted
African-Americans
and
other
vulnerable
populations.
45
000
African-Americans
die
each
year
from
tobacco-related
diseases
and,
as
a
previous
caller
mentioned,
that
is
a
lot
of
debts.
P
That's
more
debts
than
alcohol,
AIDS,
car
accidents,
illegal
drugs,
murders
and
suicides
combined
strong
city-wide
tobacco
policies,
protect
African-Americans
young
people
in
the
Greater
Community
from
Big
tobacco's,
predatory
marketing
tactics
which
include
making
cheap,
cheap
tobacco
products
easily
accessible
for
Price
sensitive
populations.
Statistics
show
that
commercial
tobacco
that
the
commercial
tobacco
industry
me
targets
the
black
community
with
more
advertisements,
more
lucrative
promotions
and
easier
access
to
cheaper
cigarettes
compared
to
other
communities.
Because
of
these
predatious
practices.
P
Over
the
past
50
years,
more
black
lives
have
been
disproportionately
lost
due
tobacco-related
diseases
like
heart
attacks,
lung
cancer
and
strokes,
but
that
said,
studies
show
that
people
who
smoke
tobacco
products
are
more
likely
to
quit
when
tobacco
prices
increase
the
African-American
Tobacco
Control
Leadership
Council
strongly
encourages
you
to
protect
the
health
of
Evanston
residents.
Excuse
me
over
the
profits
of
the
tobacco
industry
by
ending
the
sale
of
all
flavored
tobacco
products.
This
will
interrupt
predatory
marketing
tactics
that
commercial
tobacco
companies
use
that
disproportionately
impact
poor
communities,
marginalized
groups,
young
people
and
communities
of
color.
A
And
next
Alderman
homes
are
you
still
on
the
call.
Q
Thank
you,
chair
Harris
and
members
of
the
Human
Services
committee,
director
oboe
from
the
health
department
and
first
I
want
to
apologize,
because
it
was
my
intention
to
be
there
in
person
I'm
speaking
tonight
for
my
friend,
my
colleague,
my
neighbor,
my
everything
Jenna
Alexander
Davis
in
the
street
naming
I'm
known
Janet
I,
want
to
say
all
of
my
life
but
I'm
I,
think
I'm
six
years
older,
so
I'll
just
say
all
of
her
life
and
we've
gone
up
here
in
the
Fifth
Ward
together
and
I
watched
her
over
the
years,
but
the
12
years
that
I
served
as
Alderman.
Q
Q
She
was
on
everything
in
terms
of
helping
my
team
and
I
had
a
team.
The
whole
12
years
I
was
that
I
was
Alderman,
because
you
can't
do
this
job
alone,
but
Janet
was
our
leader
and
she
is
that
way
at
everything
that
she
does
and
for
those
people
who
now
protest
about
the
transfer
station.
Q
When
we
discovered
what
had
happened
and
Statewide
with
it,
and
it
wasn't
the
city
problem,
Janet,
Alexander,
Davis
and
Tanya
Noble
were
two
of
the
first
people
who
really
volunteered
to
start
to
work
on
in
environmental
justice
for
Evanston,
and
that
has
continued
over
these
years.
Q
I'm
very
proud
of
everything
that
she's
ever
done
and
I
am
absolutely
thrilled
that
the
city
is
going
to
say
thank
you
by
naming
the
street
the
1700
block
of
Leland
for
Janet,
because
it's
so
deserving
you've
heard
from
everyone,
the
kinds
of
things
that
she's
done
over
the
years,
but
to
know
her
to
work
with
her.
It's
just
such
a
pleasure,
so
I
am
happy
to
have
been
able
to
do
that.
Close
enough
personal
and
I'm
happy
that
we
share
the
same
black
club.
Q
We
belong
to
Western
area
black
club,
which
has
been
active
since
the
1960s.
So
we
go
way
back.
We
are
very
good
at
being
neighbors
and
taking
care
of
one
another,
and
we
want
to
pass
that
along
and
Janet
continues
to
do
that.
She's
80.,
I'm
86,
so
we
all
people
are
still
doing
what
we
can
where
we
can
and
thank
you
for
doing
it.
We
appreciate
you
so
very
much.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak.
I'm,
sorry,
I
couldn't
be
there
in
person.
Thank.
A
D
Thank
you,
I
haven't
had
the
honor
I
have
not
had
the
honor
of
knowing
Mr
Alexander
for
80
years
as
Alderman
Holmes
has
it's.
It's
been
a
much
shorter
period.
I
think.
D
The
first
time
we
met
was
in
2015
working
to
with
Nina
Caven
and
other
folks
to
organize
a
an
event
in
the
Fifth
Ward
at
Twiggs
Park,
to
celebrate
our
youth
and
art
and
focus
on
environmental
issues,
and
that's
really
in
the
last
decade
that
the
work
that
I've
been
able
to
observe
Miss,
Alexander
Davis
fearlessly,
take
on
I
learned
about
the
waste
transfer
station
and
the
issues
from
the
station
from
Miss,
Davis
and
I've.
D
Just
had
the
honor
of
just
just
watching
someone
who's
had
a
lifelong
dedication
to
environment,
to
the
Fifth
Ward
to
the
black
community,
to
environmental
issues
do
their
work,
and
so
miss
Alexander
Davis
is
certainly
someone
who
I
see
is
is
a
local
hero
and
an
inspiration.
So
this
is
a
a
small
token,
but
a
huge
joke
in
a
way
that
we
can
really
begin
to
recognize
a
lot
of
the
work
that
she's
done
over
the
years.
So
thank
you
looking
forward
to
voting
for
this.
C
Well,
I'm
really
delighted
that
we're
going
to
be
taking
this
step
tonight
to
recognize
Janet
Alexander
Davis
I've
worked
with
Janet
over
the
years
on
environmental
justice.
That's
how
I
got
to
know
her
and
some
of
you
in
the
audience
and
so
I
knew
her
as
a
Fearless
advocate
for
environmental
justice
and
I
watched.
C
Her
just
do
amazing
work
on
that
subject,
but
it
was
through
reading
the
long
material
in
the
in
the
alpaca
tonight
that
I
became
more
I
could
appreciate
all
these
other
things
that
she's
done
in
the
community
and
all
these
other
ways
she's
really
made
such
a
powerful
difference
in
the
community.
So
I'm
just
I'm
really
glad
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
recognize
her
many
many
contributions
over
many
many
years,
so
I'd
be
happy
to
support
that.
C
A
I
was
very
worried
this
morning
when
I
looked
at
my
city
email
because
I
had
tons
of
emails.
Oh,
what
do
we
do
now
and
what
that
was
was
mini
letters
of
support
and
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
them,
but
many
letters
of
support
for
Miss
Alexander
Davis,
oh
we'll
get
that
one
right,
but
I
had
at
least
seven
letters
of
support
in
my
mail
for
her
today.
So
with
that
said,
are
there
any
other
questions?
R
A
A
A
Yes,
we
will
move
this
forward
as
council
member
Reed
said
it's
just
a
small
token
of
appreciation,
but
it
is
a
way
that
the
city
recognizes
those
that
have
done
by
well
by
the
city
and
when
you
do
well
by
Evanston
that
resounds
out
past
the
City
of
Evanston,
you've
done
well
by
the
world.
So
again,
I
don't
know
if
she's
on
but
miss
Alexander
Davis.
Thank
you
for
your
service
and
keep
on
keep
on
we'll.
A
Yes,
thank
you
all
so
much
next
we
have
hs2
somebody
like
to
move.
D
A
Second,
we
all
seconded
okay,
it
has
been
moved
and
properly
seconded.
Is
there
any
discussion.
S
You
know
I'll
be
real
quick
here,
I
feel
like
the
the
roll
call
looks
good
now
they
don't
want
to
mess
it
up,
but
but
I
do
just
want
to
thank
a
few
people,
our
Law
Department
Alice
and
the
Giffords
Law
Center
and
Mercedes
flowers,
who's,
a
Northwestern,
Kellogg
MBA.
No,
the
former,
a
recent
college
graduate
here
here
on
her
own
time,
no
longer
need
to
be
here
for
credit.
S
S
Essentially,
when
miners
are
present
and
at
risk
of
being
injured,
which
is
a
good
start,
but
other
states
like,
for
example,
New
York
go
much
further
and
use
that
model
to
require
safe
storage
in
a
variety
of
other
contexts,
and
so
essentially,
this
proposal
borrows
from
the
different
kind
of
strengthenings
that
other
states
have
utilized,
and
you
know
we
believe
this
is
not
only
the
right
thing
to
do,
but
we
feel
a
very
high
degree
of
confidence
that
this
is
legal.
This
is
not
going
to
buy
us
a
lawsuit
that
we
can't
defend.
S
We
think
it
could
save
lives.
So
Mercedes
knows
a
lot
more
than
me,
and
certainly
here
to
speak,
run
circles
around
me
in
terms
of
a
lot
of
the
contexts
and
legalities
and
technicalities
and
I
just
wanted
to
introduce
her
to
the
committee
and
maker
available
for
questions.
Thank.
T
Hi,
thank
you
for
having
me
I'm
Mercedes,
as
may
have
just
mentioned.
It's
been
my
privilege
to
work
on
this
for
the
last
six
months,
this
among
other
initiatives
and
I,
think
he
he
said
it
well,
there's
not
too
much
to
add,
but
I
think
this
is
based
on
the
sort
of
specialist
legal
support
from
Gifford's
Law
Center
in
combination
with
Corporation
Council.
This
is
a
I
believe
a
best
practice
ordinance
based
on
bits
and
put
good
bits
and
parts
from
across
the
country.
But
thank
you.
D
Thank
you,
I
I
want
to
thank
you
and
mayor
biss,
and
everyone
who
took
time
to
craft
this
and
put
it
Forward.
I
think
everyone
here
is
a
co-sponsor
of
this.
This
seems
right
for
Evanston.
I.
Do
have
a
few
questions,
though,
because
of
heard
some
concerns.
So
can
you
go
into
detail
about
the
mechanism
that
would
make
a
gun
safely
stored.
U
E
No,
no,
no,
it's
fine.
So
the
way
that
the
audience
is
written
is
there
are
certain
items
that
you
can
purchase
and
it
talks
about
a
trigger
lock
or
cable,
lock,
a
locked
container
or
a
locked
Gun
Room.
E
D
And
again,
I
don't
want
this
to
be
twisted.
I
am
a
co-sponsor
and
fully
support
this,
but
some
of
the
concerns
that
I've
read
are
under
the
current
interpretation
by
our
current
Supreme
Court
or
you
know
previous
Supreme
Courts
gun
ownership
is
not
just
about
what
folks
May
traditionally
interpreted
in
the
Second
Amendment
to
be
about
protecting
us
from
a
tyrannical
government,
but
there's
interpretation
that
gun
ownership
is
about
protecting
us
from
each
other.
D
Unfortunately,
and
given
that
do
we
know
so
so,
given
that
interpretation
guns
are
meant
to
protect
folks
as
homes
under
the
current
interpretation,
so
how
does
this
potentially,
if
hamper
someone's
ability
from
using
their
legal
firearm
to
potentially
protect
their
home?
Do
we
know
how
long
it
takes
to
maybe
unlock
some
of
these
trigger
locks.
T
It's
an
excellent
question
and
it's
it's
not
the
first
time
it's
been
asked
because
it
is
such
an
excellent
question.
T
According
to
research
from
the
Giffords
Law,
Center
and
I
can
get
you
exact
numbers
if
you
like,
but
they've
basically
found
that
there
are
many
options
for
storage
right.
We
are
specific
in
the
language
in
this
proposal,
however,
that's
still,
there
is
still
Litany
of
options
for
which
you
know
with
which
you
could
store
your
gun,
and
many.
Many
of
those
options
which
you
can
freely
choose
under
this
proposal
would
allow
you
to
not
only
access
your
firearm
quickly
in
a
matter
of
seconds,
but
also
even
access.
T
It
say
in
the
dark
right
like
there
are
many
options
that
should
allow
for
that.
Of
course,
it
is
up
to
the
purchaser
I've
said:
safe
storage
Implement
to
kind
of
make
those
choices
that
would
facilitate
whatever
usage
they
anticipate,
but
there
are
certainly
options
that
would
both
fit
the
law
or
fit
the
ordinance
and
also
fit
the
need
that
you're
describing.
L
D
Out
there
now
you
know
biometric,
you
know,
firearms
that
maybe
are
only
activated
by
a
certain
fingerprint,
would
that
kind
of
firearm
qualifies
safely
stored
under
this
ordinance
it
shouldn't.
D
Okay
and
then
how.
D
Okay
well,
for
me,
those
answer
my
questions,
I'm,
really,
supportive
of
this
were
there
any.
Was
there
a
place?
Was
there
a
point,
When
developing
this,
where.
D
We
felt
like
we
could
have
gone
further,
but
chose
not
to
because
of
maybe
constitutional
concerns
or
some
other.
Is
there
something
more
that
we
could
do,
but
it
leads
us
into
a
slightly
gray
area.
T
So
my
my
opinion
is,
as
we
were
putting
this
together,
we
truly
did
look
across
the
country
to
see
what
our
other
cities
say
in
places
like
California
or
other
states
as
the
ones
mayor
bis
mentioned
doing
and
in
this
we
really
did
and
I
I
think
patchworks
has
a
negative
connotation
to
it,
but
I
mean
it
positively
and
that
we
were
able
to
take
sort
of
the
strongest
language
and
the
strongest
sort
of
pieces
and
put
them
together.
T
S
Sorry
I
think
Mercedes
response
is
is
focused
on
this
topic.
We
looked
at
a
bunch
of
things
and
they're
they're
really
really
attractive.
Frankly
to
my
own
views,
ideas
that
are
being
advanced
in
places
like
San
Jose
that
we
ultimately
were
really
concerned
about
the
outcome
of
a
lawsuit
and
decided
to
put
on
the
back
burner.
S
T
And
it's
not
yet
it's
not
to
say
that
the
San
Jose
doesn't
have
its
problems
right.
I.
Think.
The
spirit
of
what
mayor
this
is
saying
is
exactly
correct
that
there
there
are,
of
course,
if
you
were
to
look
across
the
country
and
see
the
various
options
sure
there
are
things
that
we
wish
we
could
do,
but
realize
would
probably
could
run
into.
U
T
T
It
was
a
liability,
insurance
mandate
and
and
to
not
not
to
contribute
this,
but
there
is
a.
The
jury
is
a
little
bit
out
on
specifically
San
Jose
style,
but
there
are,
it
would
just
require
gun
owners
in
the
community
to
have
liability
insurance
for
their
fire.
Thank.
D
You
and
that
sounds
pretty
nice
Council
Cummings
I
vaguely
remember
at
some
point
having
some
heart
palpitations
about
a
New
York
gun
law
that
went
before
The
Supreme
Court
recently
and
I
think
it
had
to
do
with
storage
of
weapons.
Do
you
this
was
within
the
last
two
years,
I
mean
since
this
current
composition
of
the
Supreme
Court,
maybe
Sans
our
newest
member.
E
D
All
right
well
well,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
work.
Thank
you
for
the
detailed
explanations
here.
A
As
I
so
appreciate
the
work
for
personal
reasons
as
well,
I
love
the
thought
of
the
liability,
because
a
gun
creates
you
need
to
have
that
insurance.
We
can't
drive
a
car
off
the
lot
until
we
have
insurance,
you
can't
buy
a
home
until
you
have
insurance
and
those
usually
don't
have
the
same,
ending
as
having
a
gun
in
your
house
at
some
point.
A
So
thank
you
so
much
for
this
work
are
there
any
other
questions,
none
any
other!
Well,
okay.
At
this
time,
I'd
like
for
us
I
call
for
the
vote
and
I'd
like
that
to
be
a
roll
call.
Please.
U
A
Yes,
we
will
begin
the
work
of
keeping
Evans
making
Evanston
safer,
keeping
us
safe,
and
we
appreciate
the
work
and
we
will
keep
working
on
this.
So
thank
you
all
so
much
so
we
are
now
at
items
for
discussion.
Hs3.
A
It
has
been
moved
and
properly
seconded
for
discussion
on
ban
on
Flavor
tobacco,
vape
and
Menthol
products.
Again
when
I
looked
at
my
mail,
the
past
couple
of
days,
I
said:
oh
I
have
received
quite
a
few
emails,
some
in
favor
and
some
not
in
favor
of
this
decision.
So
I
did
want
to
go
on
record
and
say
that
I
have
received
about
eight
emails
about
half
and
half
on
this
discussion.
Council
member
Reed.
D
Thank
you.
This
is
a
referral
that
I
believe
councilmember,
Ravel
and
councilman.
Maybe
when
someone
number
of
my
colleagues
here.
D
D
In
fact,
a
number
of
the
gas
station
owners
in
my
ward
reached
out
through
one
representative
to
Lodge
their
concerns
about
this
ordinance,
and
one
thing
we
have
to
understand
as
we're
moving
I
believe
we're
going
to
move
forward
with
this
as
we
move
forward
with
this,
is
you
know
the
gentleman
from
the
whatever
tobacco
retail
association
and
other
folks
they're
right
right,
folks
will
travel
to
go,
get
cigarettes
elsewhere
and
they
may
buy
their
gas
occasionally
elsewhere,
but
some
folks
will
stop
smoking
and
as
more
and
more
communities
join
us
in
this
right,
I
believe
Chicago
has
already
banned
flavored
e-cigarettes
these
products
just
will
not
be
available
for
folks,
and
it
was
mentioned
in
public
comment.
D
We
have
45
000
deaths
a
year,
I
think,
and
this
is
just
a
belief
for
African
Americans
related
to
smoking.
We
know
that
nicotine
causes
our
blood
vessels
to
literally
stiffen
it.
Smoking
causes
high
blood
pressure,
heart
disease
and
particularly
with
flavored
e-cigarettes.
More
and
more
Young
Folks
are
starting
to
smoke
where
we
were
seeing
a
lot
of
progress
with
young
folks.
D
You
know
moving
away
from
tobacco
use
with
introduction
of
these
e-cigarettes
we're,
seeing
more
and
more
I
think
that
a
number
is
it's
back
up
to
one
in
four
high
schoolers
are
are
consuming
tobacco
at
some
point
because
of
in
particularly
because
of
these
flavored
Vapes
I
think
this
is
from
the
American
Heart
Association
eight
and
ten
youth
who
have
ever
used
tobacco
say
that
they
started
with
flavored
products.
D
We
don't
allow
flavored
cannabis
products,
you
can't
have
strawberry,
flavored,
weed
or
cannabis.
You
can't
have
many
other
products
that
have
artificial
flavors
that
make
them
more
enticing,
particularly
to
Youth,
and
we
shouldn't
allow
that
with
tobacco,
because
we
know
tobacco
is
one
of
the
more
harmful
substances
in
our
community.
D
Two
I'd
like
to
address
some
folks
have
you
know
said
this
seems
hypocritical
for
Reed
to
put
forward
a
measure
that
would
ban
the
sale
of
of
these
products
in
our
community
and
how
would
it
be
clear
that
in
no
way
are
we
criminalizing
anyone's
possession
of
these
items?
We're
not
saying
that
if
you're
an
adult
and
you're
walking
around
with
you
know
menthol
cigarettes
or
flavor
to
eat
cigarette
that
you're
going
to
have
any
interaction
from
our
police
department.
D
But
what
we
are
going
to
say
is,
and
what
I
do
think
is
an
appropriate
role
for
local
government
is
that
these
harmful
products
cannot
be
sold
in
our
community,
and
we
by
adapting
this,
we
will
have
to
say
that
these
harmful
products
not
being
sold
in
our
community
are
more
important
to
us
than
the
profits
of
tobacco.
Retailers
and
I
think
this
counselor
is
prepared
to
say
that
definitively
I
I
will
close
with
this.
D
That
you
know
this
is
a
I,
am
someone
who
is
consumed
the
tobacco,
particularly
flavored,
e-cigarettes
and
menthol
cigarette,
so
I
personally
understand
the
addictive
nature
of
this
and
I.
Also
personally
understand
that
sometimes
you
know
for
folks
who
are
on
the
the
periphery
of
smoking.
D
Something
like
this
may
be
the
nudge
for
those
folks
to
quit,
similar
to
what
was
noted
that
the
increase
in
price
for
some
folks
will
be
the
nudge
to
quit
and
I
think
this
will
be
a
nudge
for
some
folks,
not
everyone,
and
so
I
I
I
will
say
this.
Lastly,
that
we
I
think
we
need
to
do
more
in
our
community
to
move
more
and
more
folks
away
from
smoking
and
and
I'll
highlight
that,
particularly
with
the
Menthol
stickers
for
the
black
community.
D
Do
we
know
that
African
Americans
in
our
community
have
shorter
life
spans
than
other
folks
in
our
community?
We
know
that,
particularly
with
menthol
cigarettes
that
African
Americans
are
far
more
likely
to
smoke.
Menthol
cigarettes
in
fact,
menthol
cigarette
use
among
current
smokers
over
the
age
of
12
in
the
U.S
84
percent
of
menthol
cigarette
users
are
African-American.
D
I
think
it's
an
end
in
the
past,
and
it
was
mentioned
by
public
commenter
when
these
laws,
when
laws
you
know
changing
the
rules
around
cigarette
use,
have
been
adopted.
Quite
often,
they
do
leave
out
menthol
cigarettes.
They
leave
out
the
substances
that
are
disproportionately
used
by
the
black
community
and
I
think
in
Evanston.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we
are
doing
our
part
to
help
with
smoking.
D
Cessation
last
pitch
here
is
one
of
the
a
lot
of
new
research
has
been
done
on
psilocybin
and
it
has
been
shown
to
be
powerful
for
smoke
and
cessation,
particularly
the
cigarette
or
other
drug
abuse,
and
so
I'll,
just
I
just
have
to
throw
that
in
there
that
there's
opportunities
for
us
to
take
this
even
further
and
and
use.
You
know
new
substances
to
help
people
move
away
from
these
really
harmful
substances,
and
there
is
zero
psilocybin
deaths
per
year,
whereas
there's
45
000
tobacco
deaths
for
African-Americans
per
year.
So
thank
you.
A
You
were
getting
close
to
getting
buzzed.
Thank
you
so
much
council
member
Harris
and
then
council,
member
Revell.
R
So
I
too
received
you
know
some
Outreach
from
people
in
the
community
and
most
of
the
folks
coming
from
our
Healthcare
professionals,
who
are
very
much
in
favor
of
this.
Just
before
a
meeting
I've
forwarded
this
to
councilmember
Harris.
This
came
in
I
think
we
a
public
comment:
we've
received
a
letter
from
Dr
Emma
Daisy
who's,
the
president-elect
of
the
Illinois
Academy
of
family
physicians.
We
also
received
you
know:
American
Heart,
Association,
Lung,
Association,
I,
think
when
we
have
all
our
health
Care
Advocates
telling
us.
C
Well,
I
just
want
to
mention
our
e-plan
that
found
you
know
just
really
shocking
disparity
in
life
expectancy
for
our
African-American
residents,
and
you
know
so
this
is
you
know
one
thing
that
we
can
do
I
think
to
try
to
address
that.
You
know
really
serious
problem
and
I
guess
so
this
is
for
discussion.
C
So
basically,
what
we're
doing
is
encouraging
staff
to
come
back
with
an
actual
ordinance
for
us
and
I
I
would
just
recommend
that
we
make
the
language
and
that
ordinance
as
broad
as
possible
and
talk
about
all
flavored
tobacco
products
so
that
we
don't.
We
don't
specify
that
we
don't
single
out
that
I
think
it
must.
You
know,
go
ahead.
D
D
I
I
hear
councilmember
ravel's
concerned
about
banning
all
flavored
tobacco
products.
D
I
think
what
is
primarily
being
the
vehicle
for
introductory
tobacco
use
for
our
youth
are
the
flavored,
e-cigarettes
and
I
do
think
it
makes
sense
to
hone
in
on
that,
as
well
as
the
menthol
cigarettes,
which
we
know
are
disproportionately
used
by
the
black
community,
I
personally,
not
enthusiastic
about
a
full
flavored
tobacco
ban
but
yeah.
D
If,
if
we
get
there,
you
know
I
I
do
think
there
are
there's
a
balance
between
trying
to
make
sure
that
the
Next
Generation
isn't
addicted
to
these
substances
and,
allowing
you
know
some
50
or
45
year
old
who's
been
smoking
to
continue
to
live
their
life
as
they
so
choose,
but
trying
our
best
to
make
sure
that
the
next
generation
is
not
becoming
addicted
to
this
harmful
substance.
D
And
you
know,
if
I'm
all
for
it,
but
I
I,
look
at
other
substances
in
our
community
that
are
far
more
harmful
like
alcohol,
that
we
we
allow
and
I
I,
just
think.
There's
a
a
nice
balance
here
to
be
threaded.
C
Well,
I'm,
just
listening
to
our
mini
health
professionals.
Who've
really
urged
us
to
make
this
ban
as.
L
V
You
good
evening,
everyone
Allison
life,
Square
policy,
coordinator,
I,
just
wanted
to
hone
in
on
this
question
a
little
bit
because
for
staff
we
are
looking
for
some
direction
and
Menthol
is
taken
out
specifically
or
mentioned
specifically
in
the
referral.
So
are
we
looking
at
only
Menthol
smoking
products?
Are
we
looking
at
Menthol
chewing
like
there's
so
many
different
kinds
of
tobacco
products
that
you
know
from
a
policy
perspective?
V
It
might
be
easier
to
expand
it
and
then
take
out
anything
that
you
want
to
allow,
as
opposed
to
name
the
things
that
are
excluded,
but
we
just
need
a
little
bit
of
direction
about
exactly
how
far
we're
going,
because,
again,
the
the
breadth
of
products
out
there
is
is
really
you
know
large,
and
so
we
kind
of
have
to
figure
out
where
we
want
to
draw
that
line.
A
Hold
on
one
second,
so
as
chair
I,
try
to
stay
quiet
as
long
as
I
can
and
give
the
rest
of
the
team.
I
think
we
should
start
as
broad
as
possible
and
then
nickel
that
away,
because
what
I
don't
want
to
do-
and
we
seem
to
do-
is
come
back
and
forth
back
and
forth
and
back
and
forth.
That's
not
the
best
use
of
Staff
time.
That's
not
the
best
use
of
council
time.
A
So
that
is
my
direction
at
this
moment.
But
I
will
allow
council
member
Reed
to
speak.
D
Yeah,
as
far
as
the
Menthol
products,
my
I
Envision
anything
across
the
board,
whether
it's
chewing
tobacco,
any
Menthol
I,
don't
know.
If
the
word
is
mentholated
I,
don't
know,
methylated
product
would
be
included
in
the
van.
D
What
I'm
hearing
from
the
committee
is,
you
know,
and
this
is
the
Democratic
process
yeah.
It's.
D
Well,
I
would
say
no
not
all
flavor
tobacco
products,
certainly
all
flavored
e-cigarettes,
okay,
I
I
am
curious.
If
I
guess,
like
the.
D
Yeah,
so
certainly
all
flavored
e-cigarettes
is
my
intention,
the
committee.
This
is
the
Democratic
process.
If
committee
wants
to
go
further,
that
that
certainly
is
the
prerogative
and,
as
I
said,
all
Menthol
products
across
the
board.
V
J
Resolution
was
passed
today
at
their
annual
meeting
and,
and
the
last
is
therefore
be.
It
resolved
that
the
United
States
Conference
of
Mayor
supports
prohibiting
all
flavored
tobacco
products
period.
D
Thank
you,
Mr
Ziegler,
nice
to
see
you
I'm
curious
on
the
topic
of
you
know,
because
the
reason
we're
discussing
this
is
we
want
fewer
and
fewer
people
in
our
community
to
consume
tobacco
right
and
maybe
breaking
a
rule
that
I
learned
from
my
fake
law
school,
which
is
don't
ask
a
question
that
you
don't
know
the
answer
to,
but
have
you
read
or
are
you
familiar
with
any
research
on
the
use
of
you
know,
for
example,
psilocybin
for
smoking
cessation?
J
J
D
Specifically
discussing
psilocybin,
which
is
commonly
referred
to,
as
you
know,
mushrooms
yeah,.
D
Q
A
J
Back
okay,
I
I
can't
speak
to
that
particular
product
and
the
evidence
there
I
don't
know.
D
Are
you
familiar
with
any
of
it?
Okay
and
and
I
just
want
to
be
clear:
I
I
I
get
that,
but
what
we're
discussing
here
is
we're
trying
to
get
fewer
and
fewer
people
in
our
community
to
smoke,
cigarettes,
tobacco
and
there's
a
lot
of
research
to
show
that
psilocybin
has
been
extremely
successful
for
smoking,
cessation
and
so
I
think
these
two
items
are
related
in
that
vein.
Thank
you.
A
Seeing
no
other
questions
I
think
we
have
have
you
been
provided
with
enough
information,
okay,.
A
You'd
like
to
speak
director.