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D
A
Seeing
that
we
have
a
quorum,
we're
ready
to
begin
our
business,
let's
first
start
with
hs1
the
approval
of
the
minutes
of
the
regular
meeting
of
December
5th
2022.
A
Okay,
Let's
take
a
Voice
vote
on
that
one
for
approval
of
the
minutes.
Hs1
was
there
a
second.
A
E
A
Seeing
that
we
have
a
second,
let's
take
a
Voice
vote,
again
aye
for
approval
and
then
so
we've
approved
the
minutes
for
the
23rd.
Now
we
will
begin
public
comment.
We
have
13.
A
10,
so
we
will
begin
public
comment
with
the
folks
that
have
signed
up
and
are
in
the
room,
and
everyone
can
have
we'll
say:
three
minutes
is
Don
Ziegler
come
to
the
podium.
G
Good
evening,
members
of
the
Health
and
Human
Services
committee,
I'm
Don
Ziegler,
chair
of
the
Evanston
Health
advisory
Council
and
chair
of
the
Illinois
advocacy
Committee
of
the
American
Heart
Association
and
I,
saw
adjunct.
Professor
at
UIC
School
of
Public
Health
on
January
3rd
I,
spoke
before
this
Committee
in
opposition
to
Evanston
amending
its
city
ordinances
to
allow
cannabis
smoking
establishments
I
stated
that
it
would
be
unwise
and
surely
undercut
Public
Health
the
city's
indoor
air
policies
and
reduce
achievement
of
our
five-year
e-plan,
which
pledges
to
Advance
Health
and
racial
equity.
G
My
comments
then,
were
based
on
rapidly
growing
science.
The
American
Lung
Association
emphatically
states
that
no
one
should
be
exposed
to
second-hand
marijuana
smoke.
The
Tobacco
Control
legal
Consortium
clearly
states
that
allowing
marijuana
smoking
in
places
where
smoking
is
now
prohibited
will
undermine
laws
that
protect
the
public
from
exposure
to
second-hand
smoke.
G
G
G
In
conclusion,
I've
submitted
to
to
staff
a
letter
signed
by
over
a
dozen
prominent
Evanston
residents,
including
reputable
health
professionals,
the
American
Heart
Association
and
the
respiratory
Health
Association
all
strongly,
urging
that
the
Human
Services
committee
vote
no
and
not
allow
cannabis
lounges
in
Evanston.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
next
up,
we
have
Derek
Cabrera.
D
Evening,
council
members,
thank
you
for
your
time.
I'll
keep
this
very
short.
My
name
is
Derek
cabrum,
the
community
advocacy
director
from
the
American
Heart
Association,
and
we're
just
basically
here
to
Echo
Don
as
one
of
the
organizations
that
has
signed
on
to
the
sign
on
letter.
We
strongly
urge
that
the
committee
think
this
through
and
not
allow
that
this
ordinance
be
passed
as
a
National
Organization.
Obviously,
we're
against
anything
that
has
to
do
with
smoke.
D
Smoke-Free
in
Illinois
has
been
around
as
of
this
week
now
15
years,
and
we
prefer
that
it
stay
that
way
and
we
have
no
stance
against
cannabis.
It's
just
a
matter
of
just
smoke,
free
just
to
make
that
clear.
So
we
definitely
hope
that
the
committee
reviews
this
sees
that
our
sign
on
letter,
the
experts
that,
in
both
our
organization
and
others,
and
look
forward
to
seeing
your
vote.
Thank
you.
H
Hi
I'm
Janet
Kirby
and
I'm
a
resident
of
evanston's
First,
Ward
I'm,
also
a
practicing
physician,
I'm
speaking
as
a
board-certified
psychiatrist,
to
express
my
strong
opposition
to
any
allowance
of
an
establishment
where
cannabis
can
be
smoked
or
otherwise
used.
Recreationally
in
any
form
in
public
psychiatrists
are
generally
concerned
about
the
liberalization
and
expansion
of
marijuana
use
because
we
are
uniquely
informed
about
its
adverse
effects
on
the
brain,
including
the
developing
brain
and
the
brain
is
still
developing
into
the
late
20s.
H
In
fact,
the
last
networks
to
mature
are
those
that
facilitate
good
judgment,
self-regulation,
more
sophisticated
manipulation
of
information
and
other
brain
skills.
We
need
adult
members
of
our
society
to
possess
if
we
are
to
survive
as
a
civilization,
let's
call
them
the
wisdom
networks.
The
American
Psychiatric
association
has
stated
positions
on
the
need
to
Monitor
and
assess
the
public
health
consequences
of
these
policy
changes
in
states
where
marijuana
has
been
legalized.
H
The
APA
also
has
a
position
in
opposition
to
the
use
of
cannabis
as
medication
I've
attached
those
position,
statements
and
also
a
letter
from
Dr
Karen
Pierce,
chair
of
the
Illinois
psychiatric
societies
committee
on
youth,
a
well-researched
letter
with
scientific
references
co-signed
by
a
number
of
psychiatrists
and
submitted
to
the
Illinois
legislature
as
public
record
in
opposition
to
the
legalization
of
marijuana.
When
that
was
initially
at
issue
a
few
years
ago,
all
the
same
arguments
still
apply
to
any
further
liberalization
of
cannabis.
Use.
H
Allowing
cannabis
lounges
in
Evanston
would
essentially
be
an
advertisement
for
the
normalization
and
expansion
of
marijuana
use,
Evanston
being
a
college
town
and
most
college
students
possessing
fake
ID
cards,
we
can
safely
assume
18
year
olds
and
some
even
younger
would
be
entering
these
establishments
while
many
are
already
partaking
in
private.
Having
a
lounge
where
you
can
just
show
up
use
and
meet,
others
will
make
it
even
easier
and
more
attractive
and
potentially
expand
the
number
of
marijuana
users
and
the
risks
to
vulnerable
brains.
H
Our
next
generation
of
America
THC,
the
part
that
gets
you
high,
is
toxic
to
Growing
brains
and
Adolescent.
Brain
growth
continues
to
age
25
years
and
Beyond.
We
call
them
emerging
adults.
Brain
changes
can
include
lower
IQ
and
increased
risk
of
developing
major
depression,
including
a
three
times
greater
risk
of
attempting
suicide.
It
can
present
precipitate
incidental
psychosis,
worsen,
pre-existing
psychosis
and
contribute
to
the
development
of
chronic
psychotic
disorders
in
genetically
vulnerable
individuals.
H
Regular
cannabis
use
can
produce
the
well-known
a
motivational
syndrome,
lowering
school
and
work
performance
and
can
paradoxically,
lead
to
anxiety
and
sleep
difficulties
which
then
create
a
vicious
circle
of
dependence.
Cannabis
actually
changes,
sleep
architecture
and
reactive.
Sleep
problems
are
a
main
reason.
People
trying
to
abstain
from
Cannabis
relapse.
H
Some
adults
can
get
away
with
using
a
little
pot
now
and
then
emerging
adults
can't
and
those
with
as
yet
not
well
understood.
Genetic
vulnerabilities
really
can't
I
see
emerging
adults.
I
see
the
effects
of
marijuana
up
close
marijuana
is
not
benign.
Please
let
this
idea
die
in
this
committee
tonight.
J
J
Good
afternoon
I'm
Matt
Brewer
I
represent
a
group
that
is
considering
opening
a
dispensary
in
Evanston
or
at
least
applying
to
open
a
dispensary
in
Evanston
I
thought
it
would
be
useful
here
to
provide
a
perspective
on
one,
how
the
industry,
how
Illinois's
laws
in
particular
are
address
a
lot
of
the
concerns
that
are
arising
around
consumption,
but
then
also
to
talk
about
the
opportunity
that
we
think
consumption
could
present,
and
so
so
a
little
bit
of
background
I
have
been
involved
in
cannabis
in
Illinois
since
2014,
when
the
state
announced
it
was
legalizing,
medical
I
was
part
of
a
team
that
opened
a
dispensary
back
then
in
2015
one
of
the
first
in
the
state.
J
We
went
through
this
most
recent
round
of
licenses
and
I'm
part
of
a
group
me
and
my
family
that
have
the
so-called
social
Equity
licenses
and
we're
opening
our
first
one
next
week
in
Chicago
another
one,
soon
after
that
and
and
hopefully
coming
to
Evanston,
and
what
we
always
see
is
that
we
come
as
part
of
the
process.
Rightfully
so
we
come
in,
we
meet
with
the
community.
J
Our
approach
is
to
try
to
become
a
part
of
the
community
and
work
on
issues
together,
but
there's
some
objections
that
are
really
rooted
in
opposition
to
legalization
of
cannabis
and
that's
a
completely
different
conversation.
Some
of
the
concerns
that
we've
heard
here
today
are
less
about
consumption,
lounge
and
more
about
disagreeing
with
legalization
and
and
the
impacts
of
cannabis,
and
so
crime
generally
goes
down.
J
If
you
walk
into
a
dispensary
and
the
same
is
true
for
what
would
be
a
consumption
establishment,
they
are
some
of
the
most
regulated
spaces
you
can
ever
be
in
it's
like
being
in
the
casino
the
number
of
cameras,
the
the
security
that
has
insight
into
every
angle
of
the
space
is
unlike
just
about
any
other
business
operation,
and
so
I
know
that
when
we
talk
about
consumption,
we
think
kind
of
broadly
about
the
worst
case
scenario
being
in
someone's
basement.
J
This
is
not
what
a
consumption
establishment
would
be
anywhere
in
Illinois
in
particularly
here
in
Evanston.
The
last
thing
I'll
say
is
that
I
understood
that
an
argument
or
a
position
that
it
doesn't
Advance,
equity
and
I-
think
it's
true
that
that
consumption
could
be
passed
in
a
way
that
does
not
Advance
equity
and
so
I
would
encourage
the
committee
to
think
about
ways
where
it
could.
Consumption
is
on
the
way
in
Illinois.
J
Evanston
would
potentially
be
one
of
the
first,
and
because
it's
the
newer
industry,
it
could
create
an
opportunity
to
achieve
equity
in
a
way
where
the
broader
industry
has
not,
and
so
with
that
I
I.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
and
respectfully
submitted.
K
I
am
here
to
oppose
the
adoption
of
the
ordinance
to
allow
an
indoor,
smoking
Lounge
for
cannabis.
My
opposition
is
about
clean
air.
It's
not
about
consumption.
It's
clean
air
I
have
always
prided
myself
in
evanston's
community
commitment
for
the
protection
of
our
citizens
from
danger.
Seen
and
unseen.
K
Studies
have
proven,
and
you've
heard
tonight
that
inhaled
indoor
air
in
closed
settings
is
dangerous
to
the
health
of
everybody
all
beings.
In
the
past,
Evanston
has
been
in
the
Forefront
of
passing
smoke-free
air
ordinances.
We
were
among
the
first
communities
in
the
United
States
to
pass
such
laws,
and
we
fought
with
the
tobacco
industry
to
develop
and
maintain
these
laws
with
our
citizens.
Now
here
we
are
in
the
21st
century,
considering
an
organization,
an
ordinance
to
bring
another
harm
to
the
health
of
our
neighbors
and
yours
and
mine.
K
Let's
put
the
brakes
on
this
before
it
gets
any
further.
Please
stand
for
the
rights
of
our
community
to
be
protected
in
all
situations
that
do
not
harm
degrade.
Demoralize.
Our
citizens,
please
be
concerned
about
dangerous
unseen
as
well
as
you
are
about
dangers
that
are
seen.
Do
the
right
thing
for
the
persons
who
are
depending
upon
you
to
protect
them
from
all
of
these
dangers.
Thank
you
so
much
for
this
opportunity
to
speak.
L
Hi
good
evening,
everyone
I'm
here
actually
to
change
it
up
a
bit
I'm
going
to
be
talking
about
agenda
item
hs9
the
ordinance
to
establish
evanston's
Fair
work
week
good
evening.
Thank
you,
members
of
the
committee
mayor
biss.
My
name
is
Allison
Dixon
I
am
a
long
time.
L
My
research
center
is
on
the
modern
day
degradation
of
job
quality,
especially
the
impacts
of
precarious
working
conditions
and
variable
and
unpredictable
work
schedules
on
worker
health,
well-being,
families
and
communities
throughout
Illinois
I'm.
The
author
of
a
number
of
research
reports
and
policy
briefs
related
to
issues
facing
Illinois
workers
and
I
have
provided
expert
testimony
testimony
on
many
occasions
to
both
the
Illinois
legislative
assembly
and
the
Chicago
city
council.
L
I
was
also
recently
awarded
a
fellowship
with
the
Aspen
Institute
to
further
my
work,
understanding
the
intersections
between
job
quality
and
the
future
work
in
our
cities.
The
fair
labor
standards,
Act
flsa
was
implemented
over
85
years
ago
to
standardize
and
limit
weekly
work
hours
for
employees
by
disincentivizing
employers.
From
setting
long
work
weeks,
it
was
not
equipped
to
curb
the
unstable,
unpredictable
or
inadequate
work
hours
endemic
to
the
more
recently
changing
structure
of
jobs
and
labor
markets
in
the
21st
century.
L
This
has
sparked
a
Grassroots
response
that
has
led
to
nascent
policy
Innovations
such
as
Fair
Work,
Week
legislation,
which
aimed
to
create
new
minimum
standards
for
the
employment
relationship
and
to
curb
Associated
risk
to
aspects
of
workers.
Well-Being,
research
shows
that,
while
worker
pay
is
critical
for
employment,
quality
wages
are
only
part
of
the
equation.
Workers
also
need
adequate
work,
hours
and
stable
schedules
to
be
able
to
maintain
decent
incomes
and
balance
for
work
and
family
responsibilities,
underemployment
or
involuntary
part-time
employment
and
work.
L
Our
volatility
or
work
hours
varying
week
to
week
are
critical
for
understanding
both
worker
and
household
income
and
general
well-being.
Together,
these
two
components
of
job
quality
can
cause
workers
to
not
earn
enough
and
or
have
unstable
earnings
that
then
diminish
their
ability
to
meet
their
basic
needs
and
work
towards
economic
Mobility
in
2022
researchers
at
the
University
of
Illinois
project
for
middle
class
renewal
in
partnership
with
Governor
JB
pritzker's
Illinois
future
work
task
force
developed
an
indicator
of
the
quality
of
jobs
throughout
the
state
named
equal
or
employment
quality
of
Illinois.
L
This
indicator
is
based
on
Research,
comparing
data
collected
from
over
3
500
workers
throughout
the
state
in
the
late
fall
2021.,
a
snapshot
of
Illinois
worker
hours,
Illinois
workers,
hours,
work
schedules
and
well-being
can
be
understood
by
our
analysis
of
equals
data
set.
For
example,
we
found
that
Illinois
workers
who
report
that
they
are
underemployed
or
overemployed
are
less
likely
to
report.
Their
employment
quality
is
above
average
relative
to
those
who
actually
whose
actual
work
weekly
work
hours
match
their
preferred
hours.
L
We
know
that
these
findings
are
disproportionately
significant
for
black
and
latinx
workers.
They
are
more
likely
to
experience
unstable
work
hours
compared
to
white
and
Asian
workers,
which
contributes
continuous
contribute
to
job
disparities
and
lessening
of
employment
quality.
L
We
have
many
good
examples
of
of
areas
in
this
country
where
this
legislation
has
been
introduced
and
passed
and
employers
have
been
able
to
reap
the
benefits
of
having
stable
work
hours
and
stable
groups
of
workers.
I
would
be
very
happy
to
meet
with
anybody
to
talk
about
this
more
at
another
time,
I've
submitted
much
longer
written
comments
with
lots
of
references
and
lots
of
Economic
and
academic
jargon.
L
L
M
Good
afternoon,
council
members,
my
name
is
Christopher
birkenshaw
I'm,
a
former
resident
of
Evanston
and
I'm
here,
representing
Aloha
pokeco,
an
existing
business
in
evanston's
fourth
board
I,
first
moved
to
Evanston
in
1999
as
a
student
and
I
worked
in
food
and
beverage
ever
since,
and
as
a
student
I
worked
a
part-time
job
in
downtown
Evanston
for
Starbucks,
it
was
a
very
enriching
experience
for
me
as
I
got
to
both
earn
my
own
way,
learn
the
part
of
the
workplace,
but
also
attend
school
as
it
pertains
to
the
proposed
Fair
Work
Week
ordinance.
M
My
questions
are
as
follows:
for
consideration
for
adopting
this
in
Evanston
one
as
the
city
evaluated,
what
happened
in
city
of
Chicago
and
what
were
the
effects
good
and
bad
on
their
work
week,
ordinance,
which,
as
I
understand,
is
slightly
less
restrictive
than
the
one
under
consideration
for
the
city.
Right
now,
has
the
council
or
the
city
conducted
an
economic
impact
survey?
Have
they
determined
which
businesses
in
which
categories
would
be
affected
by
the
proposed
ordinance
and
determined
and
surveyed
business
owners
to
discuss
with
them?
M
What
this
would
look
like
in
1999
when
I
first
moved
to
Evanston
there
was
a
Burger
King
with
a
smoking
section,
there
was
a
liquor
store.
There
was
a
dive
bar
a
handful
of
other
places
to
eat
and
drink,
and
what
I
see
when
I
go
to
downtown
Evanston
these
days
is
a
vibrant,
robust,
Urban,
downtown
full
of
retail
restaurants
bars,
Human,
Services
and
much
more.
The
15
employee
threshold
squarely
puts
this
ordinance
at
the
footsteps
of
small
business,
far
different
from
the
250
percent
limit
in
the
city
of
Chicago.
M
Secondarily,
many
businesses,
not
just
restaurants,
but
I,
know
it
most
closely
have
been
affected
by
the
pandemic
in
a
very
enduring
way.
Government
Aid
has
runoff.
Food
is
more
expensive
wages
for
all
good
reasons
are
typically
higher.
In
my
business
we
enjoy
extremely
extremely
little
turnover,
but
we
also
pay
top
of
class
wages
and
ensure
living
hours
for
our
employees.
I
do
believe
the
future
of
the
restaurant
industry
relies
on
fewer,
more
highly
paid,
more
highly
skilled
employees.
M
Wasn't
then
subject
to
fines
from
the
city
of
Chicago.
It
was
absurd.
What
I
would
say
is
that
the
the
impact
of
the
pandemic
endures
businesses,
including
small
months,
who
had
economic
injury,
disaster
loans
or
seeing
premiums
come
due.
They
may
have
recently
repaid
deferred
payroll
taxes
during
the
pandemic,
and
it's
a
challenging
time
to
impose
this
upon
businesses
in
Evanston.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thanks.
N
Good
evening
I'm
Julie
mathi
co-owner
of
hewn
Bakery
I'm
here
again
to
respond
to
the
fair
Work
Week
proposal.
We
would
strongly
request
that
if
the
city
council
is
determined
to
create
an
ordinance
like
this,
then
it
should
be
amended
to
mirror
the
ordinance
as
it
is
written
in
Chicago,
which
affects
employers
that
employ
100
or
more
employees,
or
at
least
250
in
non-profit
businesses.
Chicago
also
exempts
restaurants
with
more
than
250,
with
less
than
250
employees.
N
Evanston's
has
15
or
more
in
the
proposed
ordinance
as
small
business
owners.
We
work
directly
with
our
co-workers
every
day.
It
is
not
an
US
versus
them
mentality.
We
are
in
the
trenches,
not
in
an
ivory
Tower,
go
to
any
small
business
in
Evanston,
and
you
will
see
the
owners
working
side
by
side
with
employees,
because
we
care
we
care
about
our
business.
We
care
about
our
staff.
We
want
to
retain
good
people
and
provide
everyone
who
works
with
us,
a
collaborative
and
positive
environment.
N
So
I
would
respectfully
ask
that
you
answer
the
following
questions
this
evening
in
your
discussion.
First,
why
is
this
ordinance
proposed
here
in
Evanston?
What
is
the
tangible
data
that
indicates?
It
is
needed
for
small
businesses.
Have
employees
ask
for
assistance
from
the
city
with
respect
to
hours
and
scheduling.
I
would
love
to
see
the
evidence
of
this
type
of
oversight
and
know
if
it's
really
needed
in
the
Evanston
small
business
Community.
Second,
I'm,
not
understanding
why
the
city
is
exempt
from
the
requirements
of
this
ordinance.
N
It
would
seem
reasonable
and
Equitable
for
the
city
to
be
held
to
the
same
standards
expected
of
small
businesses.
And
thirdly,
why
again,
are
you
guys
not
reaching
out
to
small
businesses
or
employees
to
discuss
an
ordinance
like
this?
That
has
such
far-reaching
implications
for
bit
for
both
owners
and
employees?
Before
proposing
this
type
of
ordinance?
We
really
welcome
the
opportunity
to
work
collaboratively
with
City
Council
Members
to
solve
problems
and
address
issues
that
are
affecting
our
community.
N
There
is
just
no
way
that
small
businesses
can
meet
the
demands
of
this
ordinance
as
it
is
currently
written.
Not
only
are
the
rules
of
the
ordinance
impossible
for
us
to
implement
financially
and
administratively,
as
was
just
mentioned,
but
it
also
pits
employers
against
employees.
It
also
doesn't
make
sense
right
now:
participation
in
the
workforce
is
still
well
below
pre-pandemic
levels.
We
all
struggle
with
hiring
and
retaining
people.
We
have
all
worked
exceedingly
hard
to
keep
our
small
businesses
open
and
viable
during
the
pandemic.
N
We've
taken
care
of
our
employees
and
served
our
customers
under
extremely
challenging
conditions.
Small
business
is
the
backbone
of
this
country
and
this
city,
small
businesses,
are
the
ones
that
keep
hiring
people,
not
big
businesses,
OR
tech
companies,
they're
the
ones
laying
people
off
right.
Now,
if
you
install
this
ordinance
on
small
businesses,
the
majority
of
us
will
have
to
reduce
staff
reduce
hours
and
some
may
even
close
their
doors.
Then
the
city
loses
sales,
tax
revenue
and
people
lose
jobs.
The
passing
of
this
ordinance
will
be
another
indicator
that.
N
A
All
right,
Anne
Rainey,
followed
by
our
online
people,
so
Catherine
got
sick
after
her.
O
Good
evening
my
name
is
Anne
Rainey
and
I
am
a
former
Alderman,
the
eighth
Ward
I'm,
going
to
have
trouble
reading
this.
My
printer
decided
not
to
print
out
today
so
I'm
reading
very
tiny
print
I'm
here
to
speak
about
the
work,
the
fair
Work,
Week
ordinance,
but
I
can't
say
any
more
than
what's
already
been
said
and
that
those
were
my
points
so
I'm
not
going
to
take
up
your
time
on
that
I'm
going
to
speak
on
the
plastic
bag.
O
Tax
I
am
so
in
favor
of
banning
plastic
bags
and
I
hope.
You
focus
on
that.
So
please,
please,
ban
plastic
bags,
but
do
not
impose
a
bag
tax.
O
Let
stores
decide
if
they
want
to
provide
bags
or
not
if
they
want
to
provide
bags,
set
the
standards
as
what
they
can
provide
at
checkout
no
plastic.
Some
stores
already
provide
incentives
for
people
to
bring
their
own
bags
and
some
do
not
Target
Trader
Joe's
and
a
few
others
give
you
a
nickel
or
whatever
per
bag,
and
some
don't
some
of
you
may
go
I'm,
not
sure
all
of
you
do,
but
some
may
go
to
all
the
Sams
or
Costco.
It's
Costco
to
name
a
few.
There
are
no
bags
there.
O
O
Adding
this
text
is
an
administrative
Nightmare
and
a
morale
killer,
just
ban
the
plastic
and
get
serious
about
it.
I
want
to
read
a
few
lines
from
section
3223
payment
and
collection
and
I
know.
You
have
two
different
options
here,
but
just
just
listen
to
this
somebody
here
at
City,
Hall
after
after
the
somebody
at
the
grocery
store,
wherever
has
gathered
up
all
the
dimes
or
15
cents,
and
sent
them
over
to
the
city
honor
before
the
20th
of
each
month.
O
Give
me
a
break
here
on
or
before
the
20th
of
each
month.
Each
remittance
must
be
accompanied
by
a
report
of
all
transactions
subject
to
the
fee.
Oh
yeah,
people
who
have
the
Link
Card
they're,
going
to
be
exempt
at
the
checkout
counter
from
the
fee.
Then
then
city
manager,
their
designee
and
I,
must
okay.
A
A
O
O
A
P
There,
my
name
is
Amy
Martin
and
I
live
and
work
here
in
Evanston
I
am
I
was
here
to
talk
about
the
about
Fair
work
in
Evanston
that
and
you
bring
up
such
a
good
point,
that
I
think
it
parlays
into
my
thoughts
and
what's
been
going
on
for
a
long
time.
I've
wondered
for
a
long
time.
I
feel
like
I've
known
that
Evanston
just
doesn't
know
who
it
wants
to
be
when
it
grows
up
and
it's
very
frustrating
I
chose
I've
lived
in
this
city
around
the
North
Shore.
P
My
entire
life
I
grew
up
further.
North
I
would
never
have
wanted
to
live.
There.
I
lived
in
the
city
for
25
years
and
I've
lived
here
since
2007,
and
there
is
no
other
place.
I
would
ever
live.
I
choose
to
live
here
because
of
its
Progressive
nature.
I
choose
to
live
here
because
of
our
diversity
and
the
fact
that
we
are
in
an
urban
center
that
has
academic
and
now
even
great
world-class
Arts,
with
the
Northlight
Theater
Company,
and
still
we
are
we're
bogged
down
with
so
much
ridiculous.
Red
tape.
P
Even
if
we
had
I
know,
I've
got
30
seconds,
even
if
we
had
a
full
burgeoning
busy
downtown
area
and
not
have
first
reference
empty,
it
still
wouldn't
be
a
good
idea.
This
is
something
that
needs
to
be
focused
on
large
businesses
and
we,
as
small
businesses
and
community
members,
need
more
support
from
the
city
rather
than
restrictions.
Thank
you.
A
Q
I
said
and
I'm
here
to
speak
up
against
the
bag
tax
and
also
the
fair
work
week,
and,
to
be
honest,
neither
of
these
have
really
affect
me
that
much
at
all,
except
for
the
fact
that
you
know,
as
as
a
lot
of
people
have
already
expressed
her,
this
city
is
getting
way
over
regulated
I
mean
now.
You
can
see
the
comments
on
Evanston
now
and
all
those
things
don't
matter,
I
think
they
do
matter.
I.
Q
Think
we've
I've
lived
in
this
city
for
30
almost
35
years,
I've
come
to
the
city
council
for
almost
30
years.
I
mean
you've,
seen
me
a
long
long
time
and
before
this
particular
Council.
How
many
times
did
I
come
every
so
often
when
he
had
something
to
speak
up
against
apartment
buildings.
That's
my
business,
however.
Q
I
care
about
small
businesses,
I
mean
I
mean
it's
I
was
so
nice
to
see
your
new
restaurant
open
up
and
I've
been
there
and
it's
lovely.
You
know
that's
what
we
should
be
concentrating
on.
Not
this.
These
over-regulations
I
mean,
if
you
told
me,
Alderman,
Reed,
that
the
that
Governor
pritzker
said
we're
going
to
do
a
bag
tax
or
outlaw
plastic
bags.
I
would
be
all
for
it,
but
it's
a
small
City.
All
we
do
is
push
people
out
somewhere
else
and
it's
the
same
thing
with
this
work
week.
Q
All
we
do
is
push
people
somewhere
else.
I
mean
why
don't
we
do
something
to
help
small
businesses
help
small
people?
How
about
cut
the
you
know
parking
meters
in
half
how
about
do
something
to
help
people?
You
know
I,
think
the
thing
with
the
Northwestern
I
know:
it's
a
very
controversial
thing
is
I.
Think
it's
a
wonderful
thing
is
because
it
will
help
people
get
more
employees
it'll
help
the
businesses.
This
all
does
is
just
Stranglehold
people
and
it,
and
it
makes
people
very
mad.
Q
Q
A
R
Foreign
business
district
in
southeast
Evanston
I
first
want
to
say
thank
you
for
listening
tonight.
I'm
grateful
for
the
changes
in
the
upset,
updated
bag
tax
ordinance
that
are
favorable
to
small
businesses
like
I
said.
Thank
you
for
listening
I'm
here
to
make
further,
please
on
behalf
of
the
small
businesses
in
my
district,
about
the
bag
tax
and
the
fair
Work
Week
ordinances,
and
what
I
would
like
to
say
is
please
slow
down.
R
The
businesses
in
my
district
are
aligned
with
you
on
the
goals
of
these
ordinances.
Having
said
that,
if
you
run
a
retail
or
restaurant
establishment
in
Evanston
right
now,
here's
what
you're
dealing
with
higher
cost
delayed
deliveries,
profound
Staffing
struggles
and
for
good
reasons,
higher
minimum
wage,
higher
paid,
sick
time
requirement
and
the
most
concerning
of
all
is
decreased
consumer
traffic.
Now
I
can't
quantify
that
for
you,
but
I
believe.
If
you
did
an
economic
impact,
study
or
I'd
be
happy
to
do
an
informal
one
for
you
in
my
district.
R
You
would
find
that
that
is
true.
It
is
not
I
said
it
at
Council
a
couple
weeks
ago
and
I'm
even
more
sure.
Now
we
have
yet
to
see
the
full
extent
of
coveted
damage.
We
have
yet
to
figure
out
what
the
new
normal
look
like,
adding
more
burdens
to
small
businesses
unilaterally.
Right
now
is
it's
it's
overwhelming.
R
It's
overwhelming
and
devastating
I
encourage
you
to
put
some
of
these
initiatives
like
the
bag
tax,
the
cash
what's
in
Fair
work
week,
either
on
Ice
until
moral
recovery
is
possible
or
to
prioritize
fewer
of
them
for
short-term
input,
implementation
and
the
rest
for
medium
and
long-term
implementations.
None
of
these
programs
is
helpful
if
they
create
an
existential
crisis.
R
That
said,
I
have
a
couple
of
specific
comments
about
the
issues
at
hand
number
one.
Regarding
the
bag
tags,
the
vast
majority
of
my
businesses,
the
businesses
in
my
district
already
comply
with
the
plastic
bag
band,
and
the
exception
might
be
that
I
can
think
of,
as
is
several
Asian
restaurants.
So
if
a
bag
ban
is
to
be
enforced,
it's.
R
That's
the
language
of
the
business
owners
I
encourage
you
to
also
consider
grandfathering
businesses
with
a
current
supply
of
plastic
bags
into
letting
them
run
out
regarding
the
Sarah
Work
Week,
most
business
owners
want
to
take
care
of
their
employees,
but
the
ordinance
is
as
proposed.
One
of
them
called
it.
R
Hostile
I
take
Miriam
business
in
his
word
that
he's
willing
to
collaborate
on
this
ordinance
and
I'm
here
to
offer
my
health
to
organize
the
Employers
in
my
District
into
focus
groups
or
onto
a
task
force
for
collaboration
and
look
forward
to
doing
that.
Doing
so
will
create
more
buy-in
and
better
results.
Thank
you
again
for
listening.
S
A
I
think
it's
it's
here
in
the
in
in
the
council
chambers,
Miss
Hill,
you
we
can
hear
you
now.
So
if
you
want
to
begin,
please.
S
Yeah,
okay,
all
right
thanks,
so
I'm
I
live
in
the
Sixth
Ward
and
I'm.
Just
here
to
thank
you
all
for
considering
the
bird
City
Illinois
resolution.
S
I
wanted
to
explain
that
the
application
is
based
on
what
Evanston
has
already
done
to
qualify
to
be
a
bird
City
Illinois,
including
the
bird
safe
building
design
ordinance.
That
was
the
impetus
for
this,
for
our
applying
for
this
designation.
S
I
wanted
to
add
that
it's
not
just
what
we've
already
done,
but
it's
the
things
that
we
can
do
once
we
are
once
we
have
a
designation
and
that's
the
impetus
for
for
doing
more
things
and
one
example
is
to
bring
more
murders
to
Evanston.
S
S
So
one
of
the
ideas
that
I
have,
for
example,
that
would
build
on
the
bird
city
of
Illinois
designation,
would
be
to
have
a
map
based
on
the
great
Texas
birding
Trail
it'll,
be
the
great
Evanston
birding
Trail
and
it
will
go
to
it
would
show
not
only
where
there
are
good
places
to
bird,
but
also
where
there
are
good
places
to
stop
and
and
have
some
refreshments.
So
I
think
that
there's
an
economic
opportunity
for
this,
as
well
as
just
encouraging
all
of
our
sustainable
natural
areas.
S
A
I
guess
that
is
all
of
our
online
public
commenters
I
just
wanted
to
make
note
that
we
received
a
written
public
comment
from
the
Central
Street
board
of
directors
stating
their
their
just
this
pleasure
with
the
fair
Work
Week
ordinance.
We
also
received
a
written
in
comment
from
Kelly
Nichols,
the
senior
manager
of
policy
and
advocacy
for
Respiratory
Health
Association
opposing
the
Cannabis
lounges,
and
we
also
have
another.
Then
we
also
have
a
written
statement
from
Dr
Ziegler.
So
given.
F
That
excuse
me,
excuse
me,
are
you
I
I
did
submit
a
request
to
make
a
public
comment
and
I
got
a
confirmation
of
it.
F
F
Thanks
good
evening
committee
members,
my
name
is
Jeff
Green
I'm,
a
member
of
evanston's
citizens,
climate
Lobby
and
I'm
here
to
speak
in
favor,
of
adopting
the
sustainability
staff
recommendations,
prohibiting
single-use
point
of
sale
and
non-compostable
plastic
produce
pads
and
on
implementing
attacks
on
all
single
use.
Point
of
sale
bags
in
non-restaurant
chain
retail
establishments.
F
The
staff
recommends
further
that
these
changes
be
implemented
on
April
1st
of
next
year.
So
why
am
I?
In
favor
plastic
bags
degrade
into
microplastics
ubiquitous
pollutants
found
almost
everywhere
on
Earth
scientists
have
detected
microplastics
near
the
peak
of
Mount
Everest
and
in
the
Mariana
Trench
seven
miles
beneath
the
surface
of
the
Pacific
Ocean.
F
They
get
it
from
their
mother's
placenta,
which
is
part
plastic
and
their
mom's
blood,
which
is
part
of
plastic.
Now
my
memory
isn't
as
good
as
it
used
to
be,
but
I.
Don't
remember
anybody
asking
me
if
that's
okay
did
anybody
ask
you
probably
not?
And
yet
here
we
are
somehow:
we've
been
led
to
believe
that
all
these
single-use
plastic
bags,
the
plastic
knives,
the
forks,
the
sporks
and
I
love
sporks,
the
throwaway
plastic,
water
and
sodal
bottles
are
a
cheap,
easy
solution
to
so
many
problems.
F
F
Now,
businesses
in
Evanston
didn't
create
this
catastrophe,
they're
not
to
blame
and
taxing
or
eliminating
their
plastic
bags,
won't
suddenly
and
Global
classic
pollution,
but
it's
a
necessary
step
in
the
elimination
of
this
pollution,
the
step
that
says
to
our
residents.
No,
this
is
not.
Okay,
thanks.
D
A
Oh
excuse
me
I
think
we're
happy
to
speak
when
we
discuss
hs9.
A
C
A
So
we'll
be
with
you
in
in
just
a
second.
A
All
right,
so
that
is
the
official
end
of
public
comment.
We
have
a
small
change
in
the
order
in
which
we're
gonna
tackle
these
tonight,
so
we're
gonna
start
off
with
hs9
ordinance,
24023
establishing
evanston's,
Fair,
Work,
Week
ordinance,
so
moved.
A
Do
I
have
a
second
okay,
and
at
this
point
I'd
like
to
open
the
floor
up
for
discussion.
E
Yes,
thank
you
for
opening
for
discussion,
so
we
have
with
us
Susan,
Lambert
and
mayor
best
to
also
discuss
this.
This
is
a
referral
that
I
made
a
while
ago.
I've
worked
very
closely
with
with
mayor
biss,
with
Allison
leipzinger.
We've
met
with
researchers
and
other
municipalities
who
have
implemented
a
fair,
Work,
Week
ordinance.
As
was
said,
the
main
goals
of
the
fair
Work
Week
ordinance
are
to
ensure
that
workers
have
the
right
to
to
rest,
which
means
that
they
have
11
hours
between
shifts.
E
So
that
means
you
can't
end
to
shift
at
11
o'clock
at
night
or
midnight
and
have
to
report
back
at
7
00
a.m.
In
the
morning,
workers
would
have
the
right
to
rest.
Workers
would
have
the
right
to
request
the
right
to
request
additional
hours
and
they
can't
be
retaliated
against
for
the
requesting
the
right
traditional
hours
requesting
the
right
to
rest.
E
E
It's
the
right
to
predictability
right
to
ensure
that
employers
are
giving
their
employees
schedules
two
weeks
in
advance
right,
so
a
mother
can
schedule,
parent-teacher
conferences
or
a
father
can
schedule
taking
their
their
children
to
the
doctor
or
to
other
visits,
and
so
we
need
to
give
folks
a
predictable
schedule
and
so
folks
know
that
they
will
be
able
to
make
do
and
pay
their
bills,
and
so,
if
those
hours
are
then
taken
away,
the
requirement
here
is
that
folks
would
be
compensated
for
a
portion
of
those
hours
to
ensure
that
they
receive
this,
and
so
I'd
like
to
bring
in
some
of
our
experts.
A
Yeah
I
think
mayor
biss
would
like
to
speak
on
this
subject.
V
Good
evening
Mr,
chair
members,
the
committee,
thanks
for
your
Indulgence
I'll,
be
I'll,
be
really
quick,
but
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
share
a
few
thoughts
about
this.
First
of
all,
thank
you.
Councilmember
Reed,
for
for
making
this
referral
I
do
think
this
is
an
important
issue
of
Justice.
V
You
know
we're
living
through
a
time
where
there's
an
incredible
Child,
Care
crisis,
and
this
is
a
proposal
that
gives
workers
flexibility,
so
they
don't
have
last
minute
changes,
for
instance,
in
their
work
schedule
that
could
make
Child
Care
impossible
or
unaffordable
that
we
have
a
crisis,
we're
told
by
physicians
of
sleep
in
this
country.
That's
taking
away
our
attention
and
our
capacity
for
empathy
and
the
way
in
which
this
proposal
would
affect.
V
What's
called
clopenings
obligations
of
workers
to
both
close
and
then
open
a
few
hours
later
is
important
for
that
it
does
a
number
of
important
things,
which
is
why
ordinances
and
laws
like
this
are
being
introduced
and,
in
fact,
passing
in
a
number
of
communities
all
over
the
country.
But
I
do
want
to
say
one
other
thing
about
this
respectfully,
as
you
kind
of
prepare
to
have
this
discussion.
There
are
a
lot
of
decision
points
that
go
into
designing
an
ordinance
like
this.
V
You
have
to
decide
what
businesses
it
applies
to
both
in
terms
of
size
and
in
terms
of
sector.
You
have
to
decide
what
employees
it
applies
to
you
have
to
decide
what
sorts
of
protections
it
provides,
because
there's
a
lot
of
different
options
out
there
that
exist
in
this
or
draft
ordinance
and
that
exist
and
things
that
have
introduced
across
the
country
and
so
I
think
that,
as
we
move
forward
through
this,
it's
it's
really
important
that
we
make
sure
we
have
full
stakeholder
input.
V
I
had
the
opportunity
to
talk
late
last
week
with
the
directors
of
the
ssas,
as
well
as
the
Chamber
of
Commerce,
and
offered
to
them
that,
from
my
perspective,
it's
important
that
we
hear
their
input
that
we
enable
their
members
to
share
thoughts
about
what
works
about
this.
What
doesn't
work
about
this?
V
What
should
be
changed
about
this
and
that
we,
through
the
course
of
that
process,
arrive
at
something
that
provides
the
protections
for
workers
that
are
sought
that
is
workable
and
implementable
for
our
small
businesses
and
really
achieves
the
kind
of
work
environment
that
we
heard
talked
about
during
public
comment
from
a
lot
of
different
people
on
all
different
sides
of
this
issue.
I
think
when
you
have
that
kind
of
shared
objective,
you
have
an
opportunity
to
work,
collaboratively
and
find
a
shared
mechanism
of
achieving
that
objective
and
I.
V
Think
if
we're
able
to
go
through
that
process
through
the
course
of
this
issue,
we'll
find
ourselves
with
success
with
success,
passing
something
success,
passing
something
that
works
and
success,
passing
something
that
enables
our
community
to
thrive.
So
with
that
thanks
very
much
for
letting
me
be
here
and
I
look
forward
to
hearing
the
conversation
all.
A
Right.
Thank
you,
mayor
Biz,
council
member
Reed,.
E
Yes,
thank
you.
Susan
I'd
also,
first
just
like
to
give
you
an
opportunity
to
speak,
and
then
I
have
a
few
questions
for
you,
based
on
our
public
comment.
T
I'm
Susan
Lambert,
a
professor
at
the
University
of
Chicago
and
I,
want
to
thank
members
of
the
Human
Service
committee
for
allowing
me
to
contribute
to
your
deliberations
on
the
proposed
Fair
Work
Week
ordinance
I
have
been
studying,
Employer,
Staffing
and
scheduling
practices
and
the
ramifications
for
workers
for
over
20
years
and
as
part
of
my
research,
I've
conducted
randomized
experiments
and
partnership
in
National
retailers,
on
interventions
to
improve
work
schedules
out
hourly
retail
jobs
and
since
2017
I've
studied
the
implementation
of
Seattle's
Fair
Work
Week
law
by
Frontline
managers
in
retail
and
Food
Service
I
work
sites
directly.
T
You
know,
they're
directly
responsible
for
scheduling
employees
and
Seattle's
law
went
into
effect
five
years
ago.
So
businesses
have
some
experience
with
it
and
there's
a
lot
to
learn,
I
think
from
some
of
these
cities
that
have
been
doing
that
for
a
while.
I
do
want
to
make
clear
that,
as
people
have
pointed
out
on
public
comments,
these
other
laws
focus
on
chains.
T
They
don't
focus
on
small
businesses.
But
that
said,
a
lot
of
the
workplaces
that
are
covered
by
these
laws
are
have
small
Footprints,
and
so
in
Seattle
the
median
size
is
35
employees,
there's
convenience
stores
with
six
employees,
there's
fast
food
franchises
with
12,
and
so
what
the
work
sites
are,
even
though
they're
not
covered
by
a
larger
company
are
very
much
managers
working
with
small
staffs.
T
So
your
agenda
is
full
today,
I'm
just
going
to
focus
on
three
findings
from
our
research
that
may
help
you
consider
what's
feasible
and
the
extent
to
which
there
is
actually
potential
to
benefit
local
businesses
through
these
kinds
of
laws.
I
mean
overall
in
studying
this
kind
of
the
Doomsday
scenarios
that
have
been
raised
by
Employers
in
many
of
these
different
cities.
T
So
one
of
the
first
lessons
that
we've
learned
is
that
there
is
certainly
a
learning
curve,
but
setting
that
new
work
hour
standards
is
feasible.
With
experience,
managers
can
and
most
even
like,
for
example,
posting
schedules
further
in
advance
and
limiting
changes
to
the
schedule.
Even
during
the
heart
of
covid
Seattle
managers.
Viewed
two
weeks,
advance
notice
is
standard
operating
procedure.
T
It's
just
how
we
do
things
here
now
to
explain
to
our
research
team.
You
see,
we
have
a
law,
that's
been
in
place
for
a
while,
and
this
was
true
of
franchises
and
small
work
sites.
They've
changed
the
norms
and
shift
cancellations
which
are
of
great
hardship
to
workers,
have
been
greatly
reducing,
Seattle
and
really
eliminated.
In
many
workplaces,
managers
tell
us
there's
always
something
that
needs
doing.
They've
increased
cross
training
of
employees,
which
makes
their
staff
more
valuable
and
more
flexible.
T
My
second
point
is
that
predictability
pay
is
emerging
as
a
new
tool
for
labor
flexibility,
which
comes
from
our
most
recent
research
in
Seattle
just
this
last
summer.
As
many
of
you
know,
and
as
many
people
commented
today,
some
employers
are
finding
it
very
difficult
to
adequately
staff
their
workplaces
and
so
they're,
relying
on
current
staff
even
more
to
meet
business
needs.
T
Seattle
managers
report
using
the
predictability
premium
as
an
incentive
to
current
employees
to
be
flexible.
To
paraphrase
what
they
tell
us
that
they
say
to
their
employees.
You
know
if
you
agree
to
work
that
extra
shift
or
stay
later.
You
get
that
extra
hour
of
pay,
so
the
change
is
voluntary
and
compensated,
and
both
the
manager
and
worker
are
happy,
and
that
leads
me
just
to
my
final
point
that
improving
the
predictability's
stability
of
work
schedules
can
be
good
for
businesses.
Bottom
line
myself
and
colleagues.
T
We
conducted
a
randomized
study
at
the
Gap
company,
the
U.S
retailer
on
a
multi-component
intervention
to
increase
to
well
to
improve
work
schedules
in
multiple
ways.
T
This
was
a
randomized
trial,
which
is
a
gold
standard
for
research
and
the
study
included
stores
in
the
broader
Chicago
area,
including
your
area,
and
what
we
found
is
that
improving
work
schedules
for
employees
resulted
in
higher
sales
but,
as
importantly,
rather
than
increasing
labor
costs,
improving
employee
work
schedules,
lowered
labor
costs
and
our
data
allowed
us
to
show
how
this
happened,
and
that
was
that
improving
schedules
by
making
those
start
and
end
times
more
predictable
and
stable.
It
reduced
tardiness
and
call
outs
which,
in
turn,
reduce
what
we
call
paper.
T
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
you
know
when
we
look
at
the
implementation
of
these
laws
and
other
cities
that
have
been
doing
it
for
a
while,
there's
pretty
rigorous
evidence
that
the
types
of
changes
included
in
the
proposed
bill
can
provide
new
tools
for
managing
business
and
for
managers
trying
to
reduce
their
labor
costs,
or
at
least
it's
not
adding
to
the
costs
in
ways
that
many
people
feared
before
those
laws
were
implemented.
You
know,
and
these
laws
you
know
so
that
happens,
while
also
benefiting,
of
course
struggling
workers.
T
E
Yeah
a
few
questions
and
certainly
want
to
open
this
up
to
my
colleagues
Susan.
Can
you
go
a
bit
deeper
into
how
this
is
one
of
the
questions
was,
how
is
this
impacted,
other
communities
and
their
their
local
economies
and
I?
Think
from
what
you
just
said,
it's
been
a
net
positive,
but
can
you
go
a
bit
deeper
into
that
for
the
business
owners
that
are
here
and
maybe
talk
about
the
impact
on
smaller
workforces
or
smaller
teams.
T
T
There
are
managers
who
consistently
implement
the
law
in
ways
that
are
positive
for
both
the
business
and
their
employees,
and
so
that
we
have
fairly,
you
know,
kind
of
good.
You
know
good
data
on
and
so
I
think
the
question
of
whether
you
know,
certainly
the
question
of
whether
what's
the
capacity
of
small
businesses
to
implement
these
laws,
I
think
is
of
something
that
the
city
and
all
cities
should
should
consider
from
the
employee
side.
T
Of
course,
your
need
for
stability
and
predictability
and
adequate
income
doesn't
depend
on
how
many
co-workers
you
have
or
how
big
your
business
is,
and
so
finding
a
way
to
balance
the
needs
of
small
business
with
the
needs
of
workers
who
work
for
small
businesses
is
something
that
you
know
that
Evanston
may
be
able
to
show
some.
You
know
real
leadership
on,
because
many
other
cities
are
struggling
with
that
issue
as
well.
Thank.
E
You
and
maybe
I
can
redirect
my
first
question.
You
know
about
the
broader
economic
impacts,
certainly
for
the
businesses
that
have
implemented
this,
at
least
a
subsect
that
you've
studied.
You
showed
an
increase
in
in
sales.
T
Well,
that
was
not
the
law.
That
was
a
an
intervention
that
myself
and
colleagues
did,
that
mirrors
very
much
the
components
or
at
least
the
targets
of
change
that
are
in
the
laws,
so
two
weeks
advance
notice,
providing
additional
hours
to
people
to
increase
it,
increasing
the
stability
of
start
and
end
times.
T
We
had
a
a
seven
component
intervention
that
we
tested
and
it
was
you
know
what
people
might
consider
to
be
quite
complex,
but
overall,
what
we
learned
is
that
increasing
the
stability
and
the
predictability
of
workers
hours
right
there
was
a
fear
that,
when
you
do
that
it
restricts
Managers
from
being
able
to
to
change
right
when,
when
demand,
changes
and
right
and
when
you
know
business
surges
above
when
you
more
than
what
you
anticipate
or
it,
you
know
it's
not
as
much
as
you
want,
and
what
we
found
is
that
those
surges
and
and
shortfalls
are
really
small
and
that
there's
just
so
much
more
stability
in
many
businesses
that
is
not
being
passed
on
to
workers
through
you
know,
scheduling
practices
that
their
hours
vary
much
more
than,
for
example,
traffic
in
stores
varies,
and
we
show
that
graphically
I'm
happy
to
share
some
of
the
charts
we
have
on
that.
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much,
and
so
I'll
I'll
close
with
this.
It's
and
then
certainly
happy
to
hear
discussion
and
respond
to
that.
But
you
know
we.
This
has
been
demonstrated
in
in
some
of
these
trials
to
to
have
a
positive
impact
on
on
the
business
and
on
the
bottom
line
for
the
business.
We
certainly
know
that
this
has
a
positive
impact
on
the
worker
and
as
we're
talking
about
coming
out
of
covid
and
we're
talking
about
the
impacts
on
you
know,
for
example,
the
business
Community
during
the
covet
epidemic.
E
What
about
the
impact
on
human
beings
on
people?
The
workers
who
have
to
work
day
in
and
day
out
and
the
mental
health
told
that
the
pandemic
has
taken?
Plus,
you
know
not
having
a
predictable
schedule,
and
so
this
ordinance
puts
is
good
for
business.
It's
wonderful
for
workers!
It
makes
Evanston
a
more
inviting
place
to
work.
It
means
that
we'll
have
more
productive
workers
here
in
our
city
and
that's
a
good
thing
for
Evans
and
it's
a
good
thing
for
businesses
and
I.
E
Really,
you
know
I
I,
genuinely
ask
the
businesses
who
came
out
and
shared
opposition
to
this.
What
is
it
that
you're
opposed
to?
Are
you
opposed
to
not
being
able
to
to
to
force
employees
to
to
clopen?
Are
you
not
supporting
giving
your
workers
predictable
schedules?
Are
you
not
supportive
of
giving
your
workers
a
right
to
West
rest
11
hours
between
shifts?
Are
you
not?
Are
you
opposed
to
you
know
before
you
hire
someone
else
that
you
offer
those
additional
hours
to
existing
employees?
E
E
Well,
maybe
someone
else
heard
it
and
then
they
can
address
it
in
questions,
but
they're,
not
here
exactly
I
heard
broad
opposition,
but
not
exact
sections
in
the
ordinance
that
folks
were
opposed
to,
and
so
you
know,
I'm
looking
to
hear
that
and
I'm
looking
to
continue
the
conversation
and
and
really
hope
that
we
can
lead
on
this
with
the
research
and
putting
people
first
and
ultimately,
our
businesses.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
all
right,
council
member
Revell.
I
I
guess
going
first
to
the
question
of
what
exactly
in
the
proposed
ordinance
is
of
concern
to
our
smaller
businesses.
I
would
suggest
that
we
I
don't
know
if
we
create
a
task
force.
I
Are
we
a
process
to
meet
with
the
business
owners
we
meet
with
the
SSA
leadership
to
identify
exactly
what
are
the
particular
concerns
for
my
my
looking
at
this
I
was
surprised
that
we
are
applying
it
to
businesses
of
only
what
15
employees,
whereas
most
of
the
fair
work
laws
around
the
country
seem
to
be
aimed
at
much
larger
workforces
and
particularly
chain
stores,
and
so
I
guess,
I'm
I'm
a
little
mystified
about
why
we
are
zeroing
in
on
such
small
businesses.
I
I
mean
some
of
the
things
in
the
ordinance
I
think
are
really
good,
obviously
offering
additional
hours
to
our
to
the
part-time
employees
so
that
they
can
work
towards
becoming
full-time
employees.
And
so
there
are
a
number
of
good
points
in
this.
But
I
I
really
think
we
need
more
conversation
with
our
small
business
community
in
particular
to
see
to
really
make
this
work
for
everybody.
A
Okay,
we
have
council
member
Burns
online.
U
I'm
not
gonna,
say
much
now,
because
I
really
want
to
flow
with
the
conversation,
because
sometimes
it's
lost
so
I'm
gonna
go
right
after
what
councilman
Revell
said,
I
guess
what
I
want
to
be
clear
on,
at
least
this
is
how
I
process
things
just
because
another
city
didn't
do
something:
that's
not
reason
alone.
Not
to
do
it
here.
Right
like
it
may
indicate
it
may
suggest,
there's
that
they
found
some
problems.
U
Some
issue,
but
I
would
say
it's
incumbent
on
all
of
us
out
here
to
investigate
that,
so
that
we're
not
just
saying
that's
the
reason
why
we're
not
willing
to
you
know,
go
forward
with
this.
So
again,
I
really
truly
think
it's
incoming
us
to
do
the
research
to
do
the
work,
to
figure
out
why
they
didn't
do
it
and
there
may
not
be
a
good
reason.
It
could
be
political
pressure
that
could
be
it
right,
but
let's,
let's,
let's
do
that
investigation
I
too,
would
like
to
and
and
I
may
have
missed
it.
U
I
was
online,
but
I
too
would
like
to
know
very
specifically
what
changes
the
business
Community
is
seeking.
I'll
also
say,
and-
and
this
is
probably
something
we
should
do-
we
should
probably
just
have
a
way
to
do
this
moving
forward,
because
I
feel
like
we
every
time
something
comes
up.
We
we
do
this
dance,
where
you
know
council,
member,
whoever
meets
with
some
business.
U
You
know
businesses
in
the
community
and
I
know,
mayor
biss
was
also
involved
and
they
do
research
and
then
they
they
find
a
a
researcher
in
some
place
to
come
in
and
provide
a
hearing,
and
then
it's
it.
It's
never
enough
right
because
it's
hard
to
hear
from
from
everyone,
and
so
what
I
would
also
ask
City
staff
is
that
we
just
come
up
with
a
clear
process
when
it's
something
that
is
that,
obviously
this
doesn't
satisfy,
because
this
is
the
process
right.
U
U
And
months
ago,
but
that
is
the
process
right
this,
this
started
Economic
Development
and
then
it
works
its
way
up.
Economic
Development
I
believe
reports
directly
to
council,
so
there's
no
real
difference
between
it
going
there
to
here.
But
this
is
the
process.
If
that's
not
sufficient,
we
should
probably
come
up
with
another
way
to
do
this,
that
is,
that
automatically
includes
and
incorporates
business
feedback
out
in
there
for
now.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
Great
thanks,
I
guess,
I'll
weigh
in
I
think
I
was
maybe
I
was
a
little
bit
naive.
I
was
surprised
at
the
how
negative
the
response
to
this
was
I
know
a
lot
of
the
businesses.
You
know
you
talked
about
how
closely
you
work,
especially
in
a
small
business,
I'm
sure
you'd
work
closely
with
your
employees
I'm
just
curious
I
would
like
to
find
out
more
about
what
a
typical
scheduling
time
is
that
you
know
from
an
Evanston
restaurant
I.
A
A
So
so
I
think
I
think
so.
I
I'm
also
struggling
to
find
out
like
what
the
like.
What
what
the
sticking
points
are
so
I
think
I
don't
know
if
this
would
be
because
I
think
what
happens
too
is
I.
You
know,
as
someone
who
is
new
to
this
whole
process,
and
this
is
a
process
I
think
we,
you
know
it
the
the
schedule
and
Cadence
of
when
you
know,
changes
come
through
and
how
quickly
or
not
quickly,
I
think
for
us
it.
A
It
doesn't
seem
that
quick
but
I
know
not.
Everyone
is
checking
our
website
every
week
to
see
what
what's
coming
down
the
pipe.
Maybe
maybe
a
constructive
thing
to
do
would
be
to
maybe
table
this
or
no.
What's
that
seat?
Okay,
well,
I'll,
just
saying
as
a
possibility.
A
This
isn't
the
final
decision
on
this.
This
would
you
know
if
we
pass
tonight,
it
would
go
to
council
and
it
had
two
meetings
in
Council
and
I
mean
there's.
This
is
the
beginning
of
the
discussion,
but
we
can
hear
what
I
see
council
member
reads:
light
is
on
so
I'll
pass
the
the
mic.
E
Thank
you
yes,
I
I
would
urge
us
to
move
this
forward
to
council
and
then,
between
the
several
readings,
the
council
we'll
have
plenty
of
time
for
discussion,
but
again
the
so
forgive
me
I
did
hear
one
contention
with
the
ordinances
drafted,
which
was
just
to
exclude
small
businesses.
But
you
know
that
was
the
only
contention
that
I
heard
raised,
but.
C
E
Is
it
in
the
ordinance
specifically
which
one
of
the
provisions
is
it
that
folks
don't
want
to
have
to
follow
and
that's
what
I
would
like
to
hear
and
not
just
you
know
that
we
want
to
exclude
small
businesses,
because
it's
too
onerous
on
them.
It's
too
onerous
on
workers.
What
about
the
you
know
several,
the
the
many
employees
that.
D
E
At
a
business
and
are
have
to
be
submitted
to
some
of
these
unfair
practices,
so
I
I
would
urge
us
to
move
this
forward.
This
you
know
and,
and
then
in
the
meantime,
you
know
we'll
have
plenty
of
opportunity
to
continue
to
meet
with
and
hear
from
our
small
businesses
to
hear
specifically,
which
Provisions
are
sticking
points
for
them.
Thank
you.
A
Then
I
had
a
lot
council
member
Revell.
I
Well,
I
think
that
we
ought
to
hold
it
here
in
this
committee
and
have
and
work
on
it
more
because
there
are
still
a
lot
of
questions
and,
in
addition
to
what
size
employer,
this
should
apply
to
I
guess:
I
have
a
question
about
the
covered.
Industries
I
mean
I
notice.
Ours
includes
child
care
workers,
and
you
know
so.
I
We've
heard
mayor
bis,
saying
we
have
a
child
care
crisis
so
for
our
workers,
who
need
to
provide
child
care
for
their
children,
I
think
about
our
child
care
centers
and
they
need
to
take
care
of
the
little
kids
who
show
up
every
morning.
So
I'm
I'm
conflicted
here
so
I
guess
I'd
like
in
addition
to
looking
at
talking
with
our
small
business
Community
about
you
know
what
specific
concerns
there
are
I'd
like
to
make
sure
we've
touched
base
with
the
different
industries
that
we're
planning
to
cover
with
this.
W
Think
I
concur
with
council
member
Revell
I.
Don't
want
to
pass
something
to
council
that
still
contentious
I'd
like
for
us
at
Council
to
be
able
to
deal
with
it
and
talk
to
the
businesses
hear
their
side
of
you
doesn't
mean
anything's
going
to
change,
but
I'm
I'm,
very
clear
about
having
people
have
their
voice
so
to
have
those
discussions
before
it
gets
to
council.
When
we
get
to
council
we
can
make
decisions
and
move
forward.
U
I
was
going
to
say,
I
think
it's
as
as
I
mentioned
earlier.
If,
if
this
process
doesn't
work,
we
need
to
come
up
with
another
project.
If
people
are
generally
fine
with
this
process,
then
one
thing
we
could
do
has
been
suggested
and
our
support
is
to
hold
it
here
to
allow
for
that
discussion
to
take
place.
Hopefully
we
can
identify
how
that
will
look.
U
Councilman,
Revel
I,
believe
you
made
some
suggestions,
but
Again
part
of
the
process
is
our
ability
to
hold
things
here
to
hopefully
get
some
more
input,
and,
and
hopefully
we
can
identify
what
that
looks
like,
but
yeah
I
think
we
just.
We
need
to
go
further
than
just
we
need
to
exclude
small
businesses.
I
think
we
need
to
know
why
I
think
we
need
to
know
exactly
what
the
pain
points
are.
U
U
There
was
a
lot
of
small
businesses
that
came
out,
some
of
which
I
know
well,
and
most
of
us
know
well
who
are
saying
that
that
too
would
affect
small
businesses
and,
of
course
that
was
something
imposed
by
the
Cook
County,
and
so
we
didn't
have
much
ability
to
make
small
amendments,
but
I
would
say
at
least
where
I'm
sitting
now
always
happy
to
change
my
opinion
if
new
information
was
provided,
but
if
minimum
wage
was
good
for
small
and
big
businesses.
I
believe
this
is
two.
U
If
fundamentally,
we
really
are
talking
about
advocating
for
workers
who
I
also
would
like
to
hear
from.
So
that's
the
last
thing,
I'll
say
in
between
this
time.
I
would
love
to
hear
from
workers.
We
just
do
not
hear
enough
from
workers
and
and
many
of
which
I'm
sure
are
working
right
now,
I'm
sure.
If
you
looked
at
the
research,
it
say
that
most
hourly
workers
are
more
likely
to
work
evening
shifts,
and
so
their
voices
are
not
being
heard
at
all
and
we
should
hear
from
them.
U
You
know
some
way
somehow
about
how
they
feel
about
this,
because
I
think
that
what
the
research
has
is
pointing
to
is
that
they
may
like
this.
This
actually
may
help
attract
more
business
employees
back
to
retail,
potentially
right
it's
worth
considering
so,
but
but
yeah
I
would
love
to
figure
out
how
we
can
have
further
discussion
more
than
fine
holding
this
here
or
tabling
it
here
for
further
consideration.
A
Yeah
council
member
burn
to
make
a
good
point.
I
know,
there's
probably
a
lot
of
folks
sitting
at
home
that,
because
of
child
care
issues,
you
know,
aren't
aren't
willing
to
jump
back
into
the
workforce
just
because
of
the
instability
of
hours.
I
see,
council
member
Reed
has
his
yeah.
E
I
will
move
to
table
this
I
mean
if
we
want
to
think
about
a
time
frame,
because
but
I
I
really
want
to
hear
the
actual
things
you
know
it
was
there
whether
it's
copings
predictability,
pay,
predictable,
predictable
schedules
right
to
rest
right
to
ours,
which
of
those
proposals
or
small
businesses
opposed
to
and
I
guess.
You
know,
I,
don't
know
why
this
wouldn't
apply
to
child
care
workers
and
one
of
the
sticking
or
one
of
the
points
that
I
heard
is
that
this
should
apply
to
us
as
well.
E
That's
something
I'm,
supportive
of
making
sure
that
our
workers
have
these
same
rights,
and
so
you
know
I'd
certainly
be
open
to
or
not
just
open
to,
I'd.
Be
supportive
of
amending
this
to
include
local
government
here.
C
E
So
I
support
that,
and
so
with
that
I
mean
how
long
do
we
need
to
for
folks
to
tell
us
which
of
these
mechanisms
they
don't
like
the
one
meeting
so
I
table
it
to
the
next
meeting.
I
moved
it.
I
E
W
So
what
I'd
like
for
us
to
think
about
is
hosting
a
listening
session
where
we
all
come
to
the
table.
It's
not
to
pinpoint
any
one
organization
is
to
understand
what
the
restrictions
are
and
then
how
do
we
advocate
for
everyone?
Because
that's
what
it's
about
advocating
for
everyone,
but
doing
the
right
thing.
That's
the
most
important
aspect
so
having
something
in
place
from
us.
E
A
V
Just
just
really
quickly
I
just
want
a
flag.
I
know
that
I
think
you
even
mention
it
in
describing
the
written
public
comment,
but
you
know
the
ssas
and
the
Chamber
were
only
showing
the
text
of
this.
You
know
I
forgot,
Thursday
or
something
or
Wednesday
relatively
late.
Last
week,
and
already
this
morning
there
was
a
letter
from
the
Central
Street
SSA
that
I
thought
was
really
constructive.
You
we
may
wind
up
agreeing
with
the
points
or
may
not,
but
they
were
specific.
V
They
were
concrete,
they
were,
they
were
actionable
and
you
know
it
wasn't.
It
wasn't
like
this
whole
thing
has
to
be
burned
and
stopped.
It
was
here
specific
things
that
we
would
like
to
see,
change
and
hear
our
reasons,
and
so
I
have
every
confidence
that,
if
they're
able
to
come
up
with
that,
you
know
literally
in
the
course
of
a
few
working
days,
that
if
we
give
this
whatever
time,
you
guys
decide
is
the
right
amount
of
time.
A
Great,
can
we
let's
continue.
A
Meeting
second,
all
right:
do
you
want
to
take
a
roll
call
Vote
or
you
want
to
do
a
Voice
vote.
E
A
Aye
we
are
tabling
that
till
next
month's
Human
Services
meeting,
so
that
will
bring
us
to
hs3
resolution.
11R
23,
registering
the
city
of
evanston's
support
of
the
bird
City
initiative.
Can
I
have
a
motion
I.
I
Move
I
move
approval
of
resolution
11-r-23
to
register
the
City
of
Evanston
register
our
support
for
the
bird
to
be
recognized
as
a
bird
City.
Second,.
A
Great
I
just
want
to
go
on
the
record
I'm
a
big
fan
of
birds.
So
do
we
have
any
discussion,
yeah,
councilmember,
Ravel,.
I
Yeah
I
mean
just
really
quickly,
so
the
Audubon
Council
of
Illinois
just
just
established
this
Bird
City
Illinois
program,
just
in
the
last
couple
of
years
to
recognize
communities
where
both
public
officials
and
residents
are
demonstrating
an
active
and
ongoing
care
and
protection
and
conservation
of
birds
and
their
habitats.
And
so
here
in
Evanston,
our
public
participation
in
that
was
approving
the
bird
friend.
I
What
do
we
call
that
the
bird
bird
friendly
building
design
ordinance,
which
is
really
important
for
you,
know
protecting
the
birds
who
travel
through
the
community
and
then,
of
course,
we
have
just
numerous
organizations
and
volunteers
that
put
who
put
in
just
hours
and
hours
in
terms
of
preserving
enhancing
the
habitat
for
our
Birds,
particularly,
of
course,
the
Clark
Street
bird
sanctuary,
which
is,
is
a
wonderful
place
and
we
have
a
number
of
places
along
the
North
Shore
Channel,
and
we
also
have
a
habitat
Garden
out
here
at
the
Civic
Center,
so
we're
being
a
bird
City
will
really
recognize
and
celebrate
the
work
of
these
organizations,
and
these
volunteers
and
and
I
want
to
highlight
Libby
Hill,
who
we
heard
from
earlier
this
evening.
I
C
E
E
E
Rather
I'm
I'm
thinking
I'm
going
to
move
to
table
this
because,
rather
than
water
down,
what
I
think
is
a
really
important,
really
thoughtful
ordinance.
I
would
rather
us
take
some
time
to
similarly
think
about.
You
know
we
for
those
of
us
on
the
economic
development
committee.
We
had
a
pretty
good
presentation
from
Paul.
E
It
was
a
wonderful
presentation
from
Paul
zamozak
and
the
team
that
illustrates
you
know
where
we
are
as
far
as
far
as
our
retail
vacancies,
a
whole
host
of
other
economic
Vitality
indicators
and
what
those
indicators
show
is
that
we're
in
a
pretty
good
place
comparatively-
and
you
know
you
look
at
you-
know-
maybe
2017
or
pre-
you
know
the
2008
recession.
We
were
in
a
better
place,
and
so
what
you
know,
what
are
what
metrics
are
we
looking
for?
Where
are
we
looking
to
get
before?
E
We
can
make
decisions
that
we
know
as
Mr
Green,
really,
you
know
really
brought
it
down
to
the
human
level.
You
know
we
know
that
we
have
microplastics
throughout
our
environment.
We
know
that
it's
entering
our
bodies.
We
know
that
there's
still
more
research
to
be
done,
but
that
it's
not
good
to
have
these
microplastics.
You
know
in
our
environment
and
so
the
more
that
we
can
reduce
that
you
know
the
better.
We
are
the
healthier
we
are,
but
to
move
beyond
that.
E
Also
it's
about
keeping
our
community
clean.
We
have
plastic
bags
and
paper
bags
and
all
kinds
of
bags
blowing
around
and
yeah
paper
bags,
compost
and
at
some
point,
unlike
plastic
bags,
but
we
we
don't
need
that
waste
in
our
community
and
we
need
to
move
toward
a
system
where
people
are
responsibly
reusing
materials.
E
So
I
I'd
like
us
to
table
this,
for
you
know
two
meetings
or
three
meetings
and
and
during
that
time,
come
back
with
you
know
really
getting
some
analysis
of.
When
is
what
will
be
the
right
time
to
to
move
forward
on
this
without
watering
it
down,
so
that
that's
a
motion
I
moved
to
table
it
for
well,
we
can
discuss
the
tabling
I
moved
to
table
it
for
two
meetings.
I
Oh
well,
I
guess:
I
was
going
to
ask
our
sustainability
coordinator
manager,
whatever
Kara's
title.
Is
these
days
to
explain
the
recommendation
from
staff
that
we
I
guess
we
go
ahead
and
pass
a
portion
of
the
proposed
ordinance
but
hold
off
on
another
part,
so
Cara.
X
Good
evening
Kara
Pratt
sustainability
and
resilience
coordinator,
the
staff
proposal
in
your
packets
mentions
a
recommendation
to,
in
essence,
ban
plastic
bags
in
the
big
box
stores.
So
this
is
the
attempted
ordinance
that
was
before
city
council
and
passed
by
City
Council
in
2014
and
as
we've
all
experienced.
X
This
was
circumvented
by
the
big
box
stores
because
of
a
loophole
and
a
definition
about
the
width
of
the
plastic
bags
that
were
subject
to
the
ban,
and
so
the
staff
proposal
is
to
rectify
that
loophole
and
then
also
Implement
a
tax
on
the
remaining
types
of
bags
at
those
big
box
stores
only
and
then
also
include
plastic
produce
bags
to
be
banned
at
the
same
time
as
the
shopping
plastic
bags.
In
again,
only
big
box
stores
in
the
immediate
future,
so
I
think
April.
X
1St
2023
is
what
is
in
your
packet
and
that
there's
significant
research
that
our
community
members
had
conducted
in
order
to
understand
if
compostable
produce
bags
were
available
locally.
Trader
Joe's
already
has
compostable
produce
bags
here
in
Evanston,
Whole
Foods
has
compostable
produce
bags,
not
in
Evanston
but
in
other
locations,
and
so
with
that.
We're
confident
that
there's
a
local
market
to
be
able
to
purchase
compostable
produce
bags
and
so
for
the
big
box
stores.
X
We
also
would
recommend
that
they
make
that
switch
sooner
rather
than
later,
and
then
reflective
of
what
council
member
Reed
had
brought
up.
We
also
as
staff
recommend
postponing
the
conversation
about
a
community-wide
bag
tax,
a
community-wide
ban
on
plastic
bags
and
a
community-wide
ban
on
all
single-use
Plastics
just
for
a
couple
months
until
there's
more
staff
working
with
Brian,
Zimmerman
and
I,
and
until
there's
more
distance
from
the
economic
effects
of
the
covid-19
pandemic.
U
Yeah
I
think
I'm
with
councilmember
Reed
in
this
and
that
I
think
we
either
hold
or
I
would
like
to
see.
The
ban
include
everyone,
because
I've
stressed
this
at
every
Point
I've
listened
I've
listened
to
businesses
on
this
and
again
I
have
not
heard
one
business
file,
a
complaint
against
ban
banning
single-use
plastic
bags.
I
just
have
not
heard
a
complaint
registered
and
so
I
would
not
want
to
untie
the
ban
on
small
businesses
from
the
band
on
Big
Box
businesses.
I.
Think
we
do
that
once
we
do
it
right.
U
We
need
to
message
around
that.
We
need
to
create
campaigns
around
it.
We
need
to
do
that
once
so.
Where
I
am
is
I
would
I
think
we
either
hold
it
or
again
I'd
be
willing
to
include
the
a
band
on
both
big
box
stores
and
small
businesses,
and
we
can
revisit
imposing
attacks
on
the
small
businesses.
If
that's
the
will
of
his
body,
but
I
would
I
would
like
to
see
the
band
include
both
big
box
and
small
businesses.
That's
all
true.
Thank
you.
I
U
Know
again,
I
think
the
band
should
include
everyone.
I
have
not
heard
from
any,
and
I
should
have
said
this
during
the
last
call
I
emphasize
workers
only
because
they're
never
here
right.
We
never
hear
from
the
workers
for
many
different
reasons,
but
we
hear
from
businesses
and
that's
not
a
bad
thing.
We
hear
from
businesses
just
we
never
even
workers
I
meet
with
businesses
on
a
regular
basis.
In
the
fifth
floor
we
have,
we
don't
have
ssas,
but
we
have
business
districts
and
we
have
regular
meetings
with
with
all
of
them.
U
Sibo
Hill,
Arts,
Mabel,
Etc
I,
have
not
heard
them
register
or
complain
about
the
bad,
not.
U
U
A
X
I
would
ask
this
body
to
establish
a
firm
date
when
he
would
like
to
have
a
larger
conversation
about
the
community-wide
tax,
community-wide
ban
and
community-wide
ban
on
plastic
bags
and
single-use
Plastics
to
set
a
firm
date
for
that.
As
you
all
know,
within
the
city
budget
there
was
approval
to
hire
two
additional
sustainability
and
resilience
Specialists
and
we're
still
in
the
hiring
process.
X
For
that,
and
so
the
bandwidth
within
you
know,
Brian's
and
reminisce
bandwidth
has
not
increased
in
yet,
and
so
we
hope
that
with
that
increase,
then
we
would
be
able
to
really
get
more
feedback
from
businesses
on
how
to
approach
this
comprehensively.
But
as
council
member
hedekari's
mentioned,
there
is
an
existing
loophole
that
also
council
member
Reed
mentioned
in
the
original
referral
that
we
could
quite
easily
Rectify
right
now.
X
E
I
I
support.
Obviously
I
made
the
motion
to
table
this
because
I
want
to
get
this
right
and
again.
E
We
we
want
this
stuff
out
of
our
environment.
I
fear
that
if
we
vote
on
this
and
we
move
it
forward,
we
will
Pat
ourselves
on
the
back
and
think
that
we
did
something,
and
we
really
didn't
do
anything
to
change,
to
move
the
needle
very
much,
and
you
know
we
we
need
to
get
this
out
of
our
community
entirely
and-
and
you
know,
from
what
I've
seen
you
know,
folks
are
trying
to
make
it
seem.
Like
you
know,
the
burden
on
small
businesses
is
if
they're
going
to
be
lugging
around.
E
You
know
carts
full
of
dimes
and
nickels
and
pennies
to
transfer
to
the
city.
This
is
fairly
straightforward
to
implement.
You
know
I
I.
E
We
have
a
real
problem
in
this
country
with
the
outsized
power
that
the
business
Community
has
and
I'm
I
just
have
to
put
that
on
the
table.
E
We
put
business
before
the
health
of
of
our
communities
before
Equity
before
the
environment
before
every
single
issue,
every
single
time,
if
five
business
owners
are
against
something
we
will
bend
over
backwards
to
to
to
to
to
to
give
them
whatever
they
want
and
and
I
think
we
really
have
to
evaluate
ourselves
on
that
and
the
power
that
that
business
Community
has
has
had
historically
and
continues
to
have
today,
and
so,
let's
take
the
time
that
we
need
to
get
this
right
to
be
thoughtful
about
this.
E
So
I
I
reinstate
my
motion
to
table
this
for
two
meetings
and
I
think
when
this
comes
back,
it
should
be
expanded.
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
more
single-use
Plastics.
We
need
to
look
at
the
plastic
Cutlery.
We
need
to
look
at
styrofoam,
but
if
we're
going
to
do
this,
let's
make
it
more
comprehensive.
I've
heard
plenty
of
members
from
the
business
Community
saying
that
they're
not
opposed
to
to
those
measures.
E
U
And
cheer,
if
I
may
sure
again
I
we're
only
talking
about
two
meetings,
I
think
oftentimes
when
we
pass
something
we
have
it's
not
just
we,
but
a
lot
of
electric
bodies
have
the
the
habit
of
looking
away
from
the
issue
and
I.
Don't
want
us
to
do
that.
There's
still
a
lot
here
that
we
need
to
focus
on.
Let's
keep
it
in
front
of
us.
Let's
hold
this
for
two
meetings
and
and
I
think
we
can
get
where
we
where
we
need
to
be.
A
So
let's
do
a.
A
Y
Just
for
clarification
purposes,
this
will
be
table
then
return
to
this
meeting
in
April,
correct
well
in
May,
April,
just
making
sure.
A
Okay,
let's
take
the
roll
on
this
one.
A
Aye,
so
the
motion
to
table
until
April
has
passed
moving
along
can.
Z
I
just
make
a
point
of
clarification
quickly,
sure
just
for
future
reference.
So
today
you
were
able
to
discuss
the
laying
it
on
the
table
because
it
was
the
equivalent
of
postponing
to
the
second
meeting
from
today.
But
if
you
lay
it
on
the
table
indefinitely,
then
it
is
not
debatable
so
I
just
want
to
make
that
clarification
for
future
reference.
E
A
E
A
Okay
seconded
by
council
member
Harris,
do
we
have
any
discussion.
I
Well,
just
to
remind
us,
this
is
our
response
to
the
no
Momo
May
initiative.
Basically
we're
saying
we
would
not
enforce
our
weed
ordinance
until
the
middle
of
May,
so
people
could
let
their
grass
grow
and
welcome
bees
and
pollinators.
So.
A
Okay,
seeing
no
other
lights
I
think
we
can
do
a
voice
vote
on
this
one.
All
of
those
in
favor
say
aye,
aye
aye.
All
of
those
opposed
the
eyes
have
it
that
passes.
A
Moving
along
hs6
ordinance,
20
0
23,
amending
the
city
code
relating
to
the
definitions
and
regulations
of
cannabis,
use
and
ordinance.
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amending
portions
of
the
city
code
of
Evanston,
title
8:
chapter
18,
cleaner
act,
smoking
to
allow
cannabis
smoking
establishments
in
Evanston,
so
moved
do
I
have
a
second.
A
Okay,
one
second
great
I,
just
want
to
make
a
point
of
clarification.
I
was
passed.
A
note
from
Dr
Kirby,
who
spoke
earlier
in
public
comment,
just
wanted
to
note
that
she
also
sent
a
letter
in
a
few
appendices
too.
That
committee
members
all
right
so
I
see
councilmember
Reed.
Yes,.
E
Thank
you,
I
I,
really
I
had
a
chance
to
sit
down
with.
We
didn't
specifically
discuss
this,
although
we
did
have
a
conversation
about
this
with
the
American
Heart
Association
about
this
ordinance,
we
had
a
longer
conversation
about
other
tobacco
products.
I've
heard
public
comment
from
folks
and
I
greatly
respect
Dr,
Kirby
and
I
I
certainly
hear
what
folks
are
saying
but
I
think,
as
was
mentioned
by
another
public
commenter
we're
not
debating
now
the
legalization
or
whether
you
know
folks
can
have
cannabis.
We've
we've
learned,
you
know
someone.
E
It
was
mentioned
during
public
comment
that
you
know
Evanston
LED
on
the
Clean
Air
Act
and
we
did-
and
we
also
were
leaders
in
prohibition-
and
you
know
that
wasn't
the
greatest
outcome
of
policy
and
so
I
think
what
we
can
learn
here
is
that
by
creating
I
think
what
I'm
trying
to
do
here
aligns
with
the
values
that
that
folks
are
are
are
stating
here
at
the
podium.
You
know:
we've
legalized
cannabis
in
our
state.
E
We
understand
that
we
cannot
control
folks
from
growing
a
plant
and
and
consuming
that
that
plant-
so
that's
that's
understood
so,
but
we've
also
made
it
illegal
to
consume
that
plant
in
public.
E
So
where
are
people
going
to
consume
it
they're
going
to
consume
it
in
their
homes
and
in
their
homes
they
may
have
children,
they
may
have
parents,
they
may
have
other
folks
who
don't
want
to
be
exposed
to
that
stuff,
and
even
if
it's
not
you
know,
and
also
want
to
be
clear
that
this
isn't
just
about
consuming
through
smoking.
This
is
also
consuming
through
edible
means
and
I.
Think
again,
Dr
Kirby
would
still
disagree
that
that's
you
know
we
don't
want
to
consume
THC
at
all,
and
you
know
that's
that's.
E
You
know
that's
a
fair
point,
but
we
also
you
know.
We
look
at
things
like
alcohol,
which
you
know
when
you
look
at
the
both
the
health
effects
and
the
impact
to
public
there's
a
huge
impact,
in
fact,
much
more
of
an
impact
on
society
from
alcohol
than
there
is
from
Cannabis,
but
to
the
point
of
consumption
lounges.
You
know
for
folks,
you
think
back
to
the
first
time
that
maybe
you
know
you
or
a
friend
or
someone
that
you
know
consumed
alcohol
is
likely
they
consumed
it
from
their
parents,
alcohol,
storage
somewhere.
E
Sure
you
know
you
can
take
all
the
measures
you
want
to
try
to
hide
it
and
keep
it
away
from
children,
but
by
creating
designated
places
outside
of
the
home,
where
only
folks
who
want
to
consume
cannabis
go
and
it's
in
an
area
that
is
or
in
a
facility
that
has
filtered
air
that
meets
all
of
the
standards
that
are
laid
out
under
state
law.
This
is
a
safe
place
for
folks
to
go,
choose
to
consume
alcohol
and
keep
it
away
from
folks
that
that
you
know
we
don't
want
cannabis
around.
E
You
know
it
when
comparing
it
to
cigarettes,
it's
legal
for
someone
to
go.
You
know
outside
as
long
as
it's
15
feet
away
from
a
door
and
smoke
a
cigarette.
Again,
it's
not
legal
for
someone
to
do
that
with
cannabis,
and
so,
if
we're
thinking
about
clean
air
well,
they're
going
to
smoke
it
somewhere
they're
going
to
smoke
it
in
their
house.
E
If
you're
worried
about
the
Clean
Air
aspect,
at
least
by
having
folks
more
and
more
folks
do
it
inside
of
a
consumption
Lounge,
there
is
more
air
filtration
again
it's
in
a
concentrated
place.
It
will
reduce
the
number
of
folks
who
are
smoking
out
willy-nilly
in
public
who
are
smoking
in
apartment
buildings
who
are
smoking
in
places
that
we'd
prefer
them
not
to
smoke
and
going
to
a
designated
area,
so
I
I.
Think
for
the
folks
who
have
concern
about
this.
E
You
know
the
battle
on
prohibition
of
cannabis
and
THC
is
is,
is
is
is,
is,
is
lost
here
in
Illinois,
it's
seemingly
soon
going
to
be
losing
at
the
federal
level,
and
so
the
best
best
thing
that
we
can
do
is
figure
out
how
to
reasonably
and
responsibly
regulate
the
use
of
cannabis
and
cannabis
derived
products
in
locations
that
we
want
that
to
happen
in
so
it's
not
happening.
You
know
throughout
the
community.
Thank.
U
Yeah
I
think
I'm
gonna
stay
closely
to
what
where
councilmember
Reed
is
I
I.
Don't
think
it
is
the
right
time
yet
to
debate
whether
or
not
we
want
to
debate
like
the
moral
issue
around
allowing
adults
to
consume
legal
substances.
I
think
that
debate
is
long
been
over
since
alcohol
like
if
we
want
to
renew
that
debate
great.
Let's
look
at
the
amount
of
liquor
licenses
that
we
issue
I
think
we
need
to
stop
probably
issuing
as
many
liquor
licenses.
U
If
we're
going
to
renew
a
debate
about
legal
substances
being
consumed,
that
may
have
may
have
a
health
impact
willing
to
renew
that
debate.
If
there's
enough
of
a
public
swell
to
do
so,
I
don't
think
there
is,
which
is
why
I
think
I
want
to
stay
where
we
are
with
this
conversation
now,
which
is
I,
want
to
make
sure
it's
clear
that
this
is
not
going
to
open
things
up,
so
that
people
who
do
not
want
to
Inhale
Smoke
have
to
right
we're
talking
about
it
in
controlled
environment
by
Statute.
U
It
has
to
be
a
controlled
environment,
as
councilmember
Reed
said
where
people
who
want
to
consume
cannabis
will
go
if
you
do
not
want
to
consume
cannabis,
you
won't
go
there
and
it's
not
like
back
in
the
day
with
restaurants,
where
I
was
just
like
man,
it's
a
really
good,
restaurant
or
or
airplane
even
back
in
the
day,
but
they
smoke
on
it
right.
U
It's
not
that
this
is
you
can't
eat
here
in
in
these
places
by
Statute
they're
not
allowed
to
serve
food
I,
don't
even
believe
they're
allowed
to
serve
alcohol
right.
So
this
is
a
place
where
you
go
to
consume
a
plant
that
is
legal
as
an
adult
in
a
way
that
does
not
impact
anyone
else.
Who
does
not
want
to
inhale
that
that
that's
the
rules,
those
are
the
state
statute
rules
and
that
I
can
get
behind
right
and
councilman.
Reed
made
an
excellent
point
in
that
we
know
this
is
already
happening.
U
Where
is
it
happening?
It's
happening
in
private
homes,
of
course,
or
or
stand-alone
homes
happen
in
a
lot
of
apartments.
No
fancy
ventilation
enough
for
air
for
children
equipment.
Don't
you
think
right
now,
neighbors
are
being
impacted
by
all
the
people
who
are
forced
to
consume
cannabis
in
an
apartment,
I
think
so
right
and
so
for
me
right
now,
I'm
we're
not
talking
about
I
feel
like
at
every
meeting.
U
There
are
many
places
in
which
you
can
consume
alcohol
safely,
comfortably
and
and
where
you're
encouraged
to
do
it
safely
and
appropriately,
there's
we
don't
have
one
place
yet
this
is
a
new
industry,
but
we
don't
have
one
even
one
place
in
Evanston,
so
you
know
so
I
could
this
is
something
I
can
get
behind
again.
I
want
to
express
that
this
is
not
going
to
open
things
up
so
that
now
smoke
will
be
entering
into
areas
where
it
is
currently
prohibited.
This
will
just
mirror
State
Statute,
which
allows
it
in
controlled
environments.
U
I
just
want
to
be
clear
on
that.
Thank
you,
chair.
E
And
I
I
just
want
to
you,
know,
drive
from
one
point
about
you
know
again,
there's
a
point
raised
about
dangers,
unforeseen
and
I.
Just
really
that
is
the
danger
unforeseen.
The
policy
as
we
have
it
right
now,
without
having
these
designated
smoking
places
or
consumption
places.
That
is
the
danger
unforeseen.
Having
this
happen
in
apartment,
buildings
and
other
places,
you
can
better
hold
folks
accountable
to
not
smoking
in
apartment
buildings
to
not
smoking
in
these
areas
where
we
don't,
if
there's
a
place
for
them
to
go,
do
it
legally.
E
Otherwise,
then
we
should
just
and
again,
we've
already
learned
that
we
we
can't
just
ban
it
outright
because
that
has
not
been
successful.
That's
been
had
really
inequitable
effects
and
one
thing
that
I
really
wanted
to
raise
and
the
reason
I
flipped
on
my
light
is
also
to
remind
us
that
this
ordinance
makes
this
a
special
use
process.
E
So
it's
not
just
that
anyone
gets
to
you
know,
come
in
and
just
open
smoking,
lounges
and
dispensaries
all
over
the
city
wherever
they
want
in
the
way
you
know
folks
can
open
other
businesses
each
one
of
those
applications
would
come
before
the
city
council
and
this
body
would
have
the
opportunity
to
evaluate
that
business
determine
if
they
meet
Evanston
standards.
Of
being.
E
You
know,
responsible
business
owners
and
and
folks
who
run
run
these
kinds
of
businesses
and
see
if
they
have
a
track
record
of
doing
this
and
doing
it
well
and
we
can
approve
those
one
by
one
and
so
I
think
that's
also
important
to
keep
in
mind
this
just
gets
this.
This
doesn't
you
know
fully
open
the
doors
it
it
creates
a
process,
so
we
can
later
on
determine
using
that
process.
You
know
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
which
dispensaries
and
which
consumption
lounges
we
want
to
allow
here.
I
Well,
we've
talked
about
people
who
are
coming
to
the
cannabis
Lounge
to
smoke
their
cannabis
and
they
are
obviously
voluntarily
there
and
accepting
you
know
their
exposure
to
the
Smoke.
There
are
going
to
be
workers
there,
who
may
not
be
as
well
informed
about
of
the
dangers
of
the
of
the
smoke,
and
you
know
so
there
there
are
different
right
there.
I
You
know
I
I
am
concerned
about
them,
but
I
guess.
I'm
I
mostly
appreciate
the
input
from
our
public
health
professionals
here
this
evening
and
through
public
comment
that
we've
received
in
writing
pointing
out
evanston's
long
history
in
terms
of
you
know,
protecting
you
know
advocating
for
a
Clean
Air
Act
and
anyway,
I
I'm
gonna
choose
to
go
with
our
public
health
professionals
input
this
evening
and
I
I'm
going
to
oppose
this
ordinance.
I
What
are
you
it's?
It's
just
that
I'm
I'm,
an
old-fashioned,
long-time
believer
in
the
Clean
Air
Act
and
protecting
Public
Health
in
those
in
those
ways
and
I
I
would
I
just
don't
I'm,
not
comfortable
going
back
on
our
long
history
in
advocating
for
clean
air,
because.
U
I,
don't
think
this
does
and
again
I
want
to
reiterate
that,
in
my
understanding
is
because
the
state
of
Illinois
still
has
I
think
they
call
it
I,
don't
know
if
it's
smoke,
free
or
clean
air
I
get
mixed
up
on
it
too.
They
still
have
theirs
right,
so
it
it's
still
in
place.
U
This
allows
what
the
state
has
done
is
then
there's
an
exception
for
dispensing
organizations
to
have
on-site
consumption
so
in
the
same
way
that
they
have
not
walked
away
from
their
commitment
to
clean
air.
We
wouldn't
be
doing
it
either.
It's
just
an
exception
for
dispensing
organizations.
Now
that
cannabis
is
legal
and
we
can
now,
we
now
have
a
a
solution
to
people
that
were
already
smoking.
Cannabis
will
continue
to
in
apartments.
U
We
have
now
a
solution
really
to
keep
them
safe,
too
right,
they're,
inhaling
in
an
apartment
right
now
that
is
not
ventilated.
Necessarily
that
does
not
have
air
for
filtration.
So
this
is
just
creating
an
exception
for
dispensing
organizations
which
would
mirror
State.
Statute
doesn't
mean
we're
walking
away
from
from
clean
air
I.
Think,
fundamentally,
what
that
aimed
to
protect
is
people
that
don't
want
to
volunteer
their
lungs
to
consume
this
that's
what
it
fundamentally
was
about
is
is
protecting
the
vulnerable.
The.
U
U
Y
H
U
Correct
yeah,
they're,
already
they're,
already
examples
of
people
partaking
in
this
do
I
think
people
aren't
going
to
continue
to
smoke
cannabis
at
home,
no
because
people
still
drink
at
home.
What
I'm
saying
is
this
provides
a
outlet
to
the
better
to
the
better
question.
If
you
can,
though,
is
how
does
this
walk
away
from
fundamentally
What
the
clean
air
and
smoke
free
was
about?
How
does
this
impact
the
vulnerable
that
do
not
want
to
partake
in
this
that
do
not
want
to
their
lungs
to
be
impacted
by
this?
U
That's
what
I
would,
if
anybody
genuinely
can
just
point
out
how
this
would
impact
a
lung
that
does
not
want
to
be
involved
in
this
point
it
out.
That's
what
I
I
need
that,
because
I'm
without
that,
then
I
don't
know
what
we're
concerned
about,
because
we're
still
protecting
the
vulnerable.
Only
people
who
smoke
cannabis
will
enter
this
establishment.
You
can't
have
food
here.
You
cannot
serve
alcohol
here.
Why
else
are
you
there
unless
you
smoke
cannabis.
A
U
Would
you
get?
Why
would
you
work
for
a
lot
of
all
the
jobs
that
pay
15
to
20
an
hour,
which
is
probably
all
this
will
pay?
Why
would
you
why
would
you
work
apply
for
a
job
that
involves
some
a
canopy
smoking
cannabis,
and
do
we
think
this
this
particular
job
type
represents
so
much
of
the
marketplace
that
people
are
forced
to
apply
for
these
jobs?
No,
they
have
other
options.
A
So
director
ogbo.
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Y
These
are
things
that
we'll
have
to
take
a
look
at
as
well
right.
People
who
are
driving
impaired
and
I
also
understand
that
we
can
equate
some
alcohol
as
into
it.
Y
You
know
people
driving
when
they
are,
they
are
liberated,
but
there
are
a
number
of
factors
that
we
will
have
to
consider
here
and,
as
I
said
from
a
public
health
standpoint,
given
what
we
have
learned,
studies
that
have
been
conducted
about
deductive,
nature
of
of
cannabis
and
I
also
understand
that
individuals
who
are
coming
here
are
coming
here
for
the
sole
purpose
of
smoking
of
cannabis.
But
we
also
have
to
think
about
individuals
who
do
not
want
to
expose,
and,
as
I
mentioned,
the
workers,
the
contractors
that
the
cleaners
individuals
are
all
coming
there.
W
Thank
you,
I
am
opposed,
I've
received
emails,
I've
received
calls
and
I
just
think
that,
while
it
does
not,
you
have
to
go
there.
If
you
wish
to
participate,
I
think
it
still
is
counterproductive
to
the
Clean
Air
Act
smoking.
Just
in
general,
we're
saying
you
can't
oh
see
even
my
phone
agreed
with
me.
W
I
just
think
it's
counteractive
and
I
don't
support
it.
I,
don't
think
it's
the
best
change
in
the
ordinance
that
our
city
can
make
I
think
we
have
other
issues
and
its
health
issues
as
well.
So.
I
U
No,
that's
fine,
I
yeah
can
I
go
councilman
reader
you're
gonna
go
you're
up
next
yeah
I,
just
I.
Think
it's
important
for
this
debate
or
any
other
debate
to
just
register
real
concerns.
Is
is
really
important
that,
if
we're
going
to
debate
up
here
that
we're
not
just
going
off
of
feelings
and
perceptions,
but
that
we
have
concrete
I
mean
please
take
the
mic
if
you
can
like
I,
just
I
wanna
I'm
not
talking
about
again.
If
we,
if
we
want
to
renew
a
question
of
our
mortal
moral.
H
Okay,
yes,
you're
you're
you're,
bringing
up
something
very
interesting.
Alcohol
has
been
around
forever.
Prohibition
didn't
work
because
once
you've,
given
people
something
taking
it
away,
it
doesn't
work
so
well
you
got
to
do
it.
You
got
to
not
give
it
there's
a
big
difference
between
legalization
and
decriminalization.
We
should
never
have
legalized
marijuana,
but
we
should
have
decriminalized
it
in
Portugal.
They
decriminalized
drugs
and
it
worked
very
well.
Okay,
I'm!
Not
this
isn't
a
moral
thing.
H
It's
I'm
I
mean
the
Clean
Air
thing
aside.
I
haven't
thought
about
it.
Much!
That's
not
my
stick.
My
stick
is
brains.
My
stick
is
young
people.
My
stick
is
putting
something
out
there.
Just
like
tobacco
was
that
it
was
put
out
there
by
people
who
wanted
to
make
money
and
there's
nothing
wrong
with
wanting
to
make
money
or
start
a
business,
but
it
was
put
out
there.
There
were
dangers,
some
people
knew
about
them.
Other
people
didn't
it
was
marketed
very
effectively.
H
H
Because,
once
you
have
a
bar
for
smoking,
weed
in
your
town
and
even
more
in
a
college
town,
you
know
you've
got
a
place
for
people
to
you
know.
Maybe
I
don't
get
invited
to
a
lot
of
parties
where
people
are
smoking
weed.
Maybe
I
don't
want
to
go
to
the
dispensary
to
buy
my
own
weed,
but
at
the
spur
of
the
moment
I
can
decide.
H
Oh
cool
I'm
gonna
go
to
that
place
and
maybe
I'll
meet
somebody
and
I'll
hang
and
then
you
start
getting
you
you
make
it
easier
and
easier
the
easier
you
make
something
the
more
people
will
do
it
and
if
it's
dangerous
well,
you
don't
want
to
make
it
easy.
So
yeah,
the
cat's
out
of
the
bag
or
the
horses
out
of
the
bar
and
marijuana
is
legal.
Okay,
fine,
but
you
don't
have
to
let
the
horse
out
of
the
pasture.
H
K
U
K
K
U
K
K
K
U
If
gonna
be
recognized,
if
we
can't
respond,
I
won't
respond,
but
I
would
like
to
if
we
offer
a
break
from
normal
decorum
to
engage
with
our
audience
I'd
like
to
continue
that
or
let's
just
not
do
it
then
next
time.
E
Yes,
thank
you
again
to
to
respond
directly
to
that
and
then
I
want
to
move
to
something
else,
but
right
now
we,
the
law,
is
right
now
that
you
can
only
consume
in
your
private
residence
That's
the
Law
as
it
currently
stands.
So
we
already
have
a
standard
that
says:
there's
only
this
one
place
that
you
can
consume
and
it's
a
place
where
you
could
be.
E
If
you
I,
don't
know
if
you
live
in
an
apartment
building,
but
if
you
live
in
an
apartment
where,
if
you
live
at
home
or
other
people
who
live
in
apartment
buildings,
they
are
then
exposed
and
forced
to
be
exposed,
because
that's
the
only
place
that
people
can
legally
consume
this
exposed
to
that
smoke.
Instead
of
creating
an
outlet
where
more
and
more
people
will
choose
I,
don't
I'm,
not
a
drinker.
E
Maybe
you'd
have
a
glass
of
alcohol
once
or
twice
a
year,
maybe
and
I
don't
buy,
typically
buy
alcohol
and
bring
it
into
my
house.
I
may
only
have
it
when
I
go
out.
If
I,
if
bars,
weren't
available,
maybe
I
would
buy
a
bottle
of
alcohol
and
keep
it
in
my
house
and
maybe
drink
more
I,
don't
know,
but
so
again,
by
creating
this
place,
where
Focus
can
go,
that
is
regulated
and
again
the
point
raised
about
you
know
who
are
the
folks
that
are
impacted.
It's
the
Cleaning
crew.
E
It's
the
you
know,
people
who
come
into
the
business,
the
same
thing
in
someone's
private
residence
if
you're
consuming
cannabis
in
your
private
residence,
there
are
people
who
may
have
maintenance
workers
and
other
people
who
may
have
to
come
in
and
out
and
again
they're
being
exposed
to
it.
Instead
of
this
one
regulated
place
where
we
can
likely
more
and
more
people
will
choose
to
go
and
consume
there
rather
than
consuming
in
their
private
residences.
I
was
trying
to
get
led
into
the
zoo
meeting,
so
I
could
share
my
screen.
E
U
U
Go
ahead,
this
is
what
was
going
to
be
my
response.
The
reason
why
I
really
wanted
to
hone
in
on
who
we're
talking
about
which
we're
talking
about
people
that
have
chose
to
enter
this
space
who
consume
cannabis
so
I
know
some
people
may
still
be
talking
about
that
group,
but
I
think
most
of
us
are
not,
as
concerned
about
somebody,
an
adult
that
volunteered
to
go
into
a
place
because
they
are
part
of
a
community
that
chooses
to
to
take
it
easy
and
kick
back
using
this
legal
substance.
U
So
we
can't
be
talking
about
them.
I
know
some
folks
still
are,
but
that
can't
be
who
we're
talking
about.
So,
let's
put
that
to
a
side
if
we're
talking
about
a
few
workers-
okay,
probably
two
or
three
workers
that
could
be
impacted.
That
could
be
addressed
through
the
special
use
process.
That's
what
what
the
special
use
process
is
is
for
right
to
talk
about.
Okay!
Well,
how
do
you
if
workers
are
going
to
be
impacted?
How
can
we
make
sure
that
workers
are
safe?
U
Who
work
here
and
you
impose
things
on
the
business
owners
right?
That's
on
the
business!
You
say:
okay
well,
in
order
for
you
to
hire
workers
in
these
type
of
establishments.
You
need
to
put
these
measures
in
place
to
protect
this
group.
That's
what
this,
what
will
come
out
of
this
special
use
process,
so
I
I
I'm,
just
I'm
not
hearing
enough
about
how
again
there
was
a
lot
thrown
on
the
wall,
but
I
thought
fundamentally
we're
talking
about
the
smoke
free
act,
which
again
this
does
not
really.
This
would
not
impact.
A
If
I
can
I
will
I'll
jump
in
for
the
first
time
here,
I
think
I
said
it
at
the
last
meeting.
A
As
long
as
there
is
like
adequate
high-tech
filtration
system
that
doesn't
adversely
affect
staff,
I
don't
see
any
any
problem.
With
this
I
know
we
have
council,
member
Harris.
U
E
If
but
I
do,
if
I
can
quickly,
just
I
wanted
to
share
this.
E
Like
we've
got
three
all
right:
if
I
can
share
this
quickly,
sorry
I
can't
make
it
bigger,
because
if
I
turn
my
screen
on
the
side
it
it.
A
K
E
E
This
is
a
a
a
DJ
King
La
Phillips
study
from
2010
that
shows
the
health
impacts
of
different
Controlled
Substances
alcohol
is
that
top
bar
has
the
largest
societal,
both
Health
when
you
combine
all
of
the
different
impacts
largest
impact
cannabis
is
about
Midway
through,
and
you
look
at
some
other
substances
that
are
lower
on
the
list,
and
so
my
point
being
is
just
the
the
huge
the
outsourced
and
out
weighing
impact
of
of
alcohol
on
folks.
Cannabis
is
much
lower
I'm.
Looking
for
us
to
move
forward.
Thank
you.
D
A
A
Aye
right
that
passes
to
council
and
that
again
just
to
iterate
with
people.
That's
this
is
allowing
the
possibility.
This
is
not.
This
is
a
special
use.
So,
okay,
we're
going
to
hs7
ordinance,
22023
amending
the
city
code
of
Evanston,
Title
IX,
chapter
4,
section
5,
certain
animals
prohibited
to
allow
roosters
for
educational
purposes,
so
moved.
Second,
okay,
we
have
a
second
do.
We
have
any
discussion
on
this.
Y
The
Ordnance,
actually
this
this
morning,
I,
will
recommend
that,
as
it
goes
travels
to
city
council
for
us
to
make
a
slight
Amendment
to
this
ordinance,
where
it
says
educational
institution
to
exclude
residential
areas
or
individuals
who
are
perhaps
homeschooled.
We
don't
want
any
confusion.
Yes,
yes,.
A
W
A
All
right,
I
think
this
one
is
something
we
can
have
a
Voice
vote
on.
So
all
of
those
in
favor
say
aye,
aye
aye,
all
those
opposed
the
eyes
have
it
so
shout
out
to
Tyrone
he's
gonna
be
sticking
around
at
the
high
school
great.
A
Now
we'll
move
on
to
hs8
ordinance,
23
023,
amending
city
code,
729,
B,
Fourth
of
July
Park
parade
Parkway
regulations
to
include
all
parades
held
within
the
City
of
Evanston.
Can
I
have
a
motion
so
moved
in
a
second
okay.
A
We
have
it
seconded
any
discussion.
I.
E
A
All
right,
we
will
have
another
Voice
vote.
W
W
I'm
sorry
about
that
I
got
a
headache.
I
thought
there
was
some
discussion
and
I
can't
remember
from
the
city's
perspective.
Do
we
have
anybody
who
could
speak
to
that?
Yes,
no,
maybe
I'm.
A
A
A
Okay,
moved
by
councilmember
Ravel
seconded
by
council
member
Harris,
so
Chief
polyp.
A
I
think
and
so
based
on
a
discussion.
This
was
something
that
the
echo
program
was
a
a
pilot
back
in
2019.
Something
I
was
yeah.
AA
The
echo
program
started
with
the
Evanston
fire
department,
paramedics
working
with
Saint
Francis,
revisiting
patients
who
had
went
to
the
ER
and
Saint
Francis
had
a
liaison
who
would
identify
patients
who
might
need
to
revisit
after
a
surgery
after
some
kind
of
medical
visit,
so
they
wouldn't
re-enter
the
ER.
After
before
30
days,
Saint
Francis
had
a
foundation
who
then
donated
a
certain
amount
of
money.
I
believe
it
was
about
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
get
the
program
up
and
running.
AA
We
sent
probably
13
to
15
members
of
firefighters
and
paramedics
to
go
through
the
training
and
become
able
to
go
to
people's
homes
in
a
non-emergent
way
after
we
were,
after
those,
patients
were
identified
as
patients
that
needed
to
be
seen
by
Saint,
Francis,
then
covet
hit
and
the
program
didn't
get
off
its
feet.
AA
The
amount
of
patients
that
we
had
was
very
small
at
the
very
beginning,
but
we
expected
that
right,
like
it's
a
new
program,
new
new
idea,
so
the
the
amount
of
patients
that
we
were
getting
through
Saint
Francis
was
a
very
small
amount
of
patients
and,
as
discussions
began
about
I,
don't
know
six
eight
months
ago,
director.
This
is
something
that
a
few
council
members
may
have
liked
to
re
Revitalize.
So
that's
that's
why
we
are
where
we
are
right
now.
A
Great
and
I
think
I
I
had
some
discussion
with
your
staff
about
and
just
ran
into
them
and
asked
them.
It
sounds
like
one
of
the
things
we're
trying
to
do
is
kind
of
they
were
seeing
like
community
members.
You
know
have
an
ambulance
called
when
it
was
something
that
if
there
could
have
been
some
preventative,
you
know
just
check
check-ins
happen
now.
AA
So,
currently,
with
the
conversations
that
we've
been
having
with
a
committee,
that's
been
put
together,
I
really
think
it
would
be
important
for
us
to
really
identify
the
problem
to
re-invent
or
not
reinvent.
We
have
the
echo
in
place.
I
mean
this
is
a.
This
is
something
in
place.
That's
just
not
funded
at
this
point,
but
I
really
think
it'd
be
wise
of
us
to
really
hone
in
on
what
is
the
problem
that
we're
trying
to
correct
based
on
some
of
these
calls
in
in
the
memo
these
different
low
Acuity
calls.
AA
AA
As
you
asked
council
member
regarding,
are
there
times
that
we
can
visit
people
where
they
wouldn't
need
an
ambulance,
I'm
I'm
sure
there
are
it's
just
identifying
those
folks
I,
don't
know
how
we
would
identify
those
folks
in
the
in
the
interim,
like
so
people
call
9-1-1,
we
respond
to
whatever
emergency
that
would
be
having
that
liaison
or
that
person
in
the
in
the
in
the
middle.
Who
would
determine
that
we
should
probably
go
see
these
people
and
give
them
some
care
prior
to
that.
A
That
it
almost
sounds
like
like
a
social
work
aspect
like
case
management,
which
I
think
there.
AA
A
A
AA
With
what
we're
trying
to
identify
as
a
problem
and
and
what
kind
of
solution
we
would
use
to
fix
the
problem,
there
needs
to
be
some
kind
of
case
worker
or
somebody
that
would
identify
people
who
would
need
this.
This
kind
of
service
and
currently
I
I,
do
have
to
be
honest
right
now.
The
fire
department
we're
trying
to
get
a
third
ambulance
in
service,
we're
taking
on
the
lifeguards,
we're
in
the
middle
of
some
pretty
big
operational
ideas
right
now
and
not
to
say
that
this
can't
be
accomplished.
AA
But
I
really
think
it'd
be
important
if
we
honed
in
on
what
we
are
trying
to
accomplish
that
we
were
at
your
pleasure
and
whatever
you
would
need
were
you
know
we're
there,
but
I
I,
don't
think
it's!
You
know
it's
something
that
we
really
need
to
hone
in
on
and
really
kind
of
study
before
we
jump
into
this,
because
I
think
it
could
get
quite
expensive.
I
Identifying
the
problem
is,
is
our
first
step
because
the
the
memo
mentions
a
variety
of
concerns
and
different
ones
would
require
a
different
response.
So
we
were
talking
about
panhandling,
homelessness
and
littering
so
I
mean
I.
Don't
know
anybody
has
an
idea
of
what
we
can
really
do
constructively
about.
Panhandling
homelessness
is
a
whole
separate
subject
littering
we
have
our
new
Street
plus
program
in
terms
of
a
lot
of
the
the
need
for
mental
health
response.
We
have
Trilogy
which
covers
Evanston
with,
and
it
has
a
24
7
mobile
crisis
response
program.
I
That
I
think
is
doing
a
really
great
job
for
Evanston
the
echo
program
as
I
understand
it
was
patients
would
already
a
person
would
already
have
been
a
patient
at
Saint
Francis.
They
were
the
kind
of
person
who
kind
of
was
a
repeat
visitor
and
the
idea
was
then
to
follow
up
and
with
a
voluntary
free,
in-home.
I
I,
don't
know
assistance
to
help
them
do
a
better
job
managing
their
own
health,
so
they
wouldn't
have
to
go
to
the
hospital
so
frequently
and
it
would
be
wonderful
if
that
program
got
could
get
funding
again
because
I
mean
I
I,
guess
we
never
did
it
long
enough
to
really
be
able
to
point
to
whether
it
really
made
a
big
difference.
I
I,
don't
yeah.
AA
I
think
the
program
has
validity
for
sure
right,
you're,
absolutely
correct
when
we
started
the
program
and
working
with
Saint
Francis,
identifying
patients
based
on
who
was
in
the
hospital
and
who
was
released
from
the
hospital.
AA
W
AA
I
C
AA
For
the
situation,
I
think
we're
trying
to
focus
in
right
now.
Don't
think
that
program
is
that
right,
do
I,
think
Edco
Echo
has
value
I
do
in
a
different
way,
though,
in.
C
AA
Way
of
identifying
people
who
not
abuse
but
overuse
9-1-1
for
things
that
we
can
probably
help
them
out
by
by
a
quick
visit,
but
that
number
is
kind
of
small.
At
this
point.
I
Okay,
so
back
in
the
day
when
we
had
the
echo
program,
Saint
Francis
had
a
24-hour
crisis
hotline.
Do
they
still
have
that
or
maybe
director
ogbo
knows
more
about
that.
Y
Not
currently,
we
did
not
renew
the
amida
contract
for
the
24
hour
crisis
line,
and
that
is
due
to
the
Inception
or
the
establishment
of
Trilogy
here
in
Evanston,
but
it's
not
a
contract
that
was
renewed
for
this
year
and
keep
in
mind.
That
was
a
contract
that
we
had
for
over
13
years
and
we
didn't
necessarily
have
the
numbers
to
support
that
contract
and
that's
why
I
was
so
dissolved.
Okay,.
I
Got
it
and
and
do
you
know,
Trilogy
and
peer
services,
or
had
staff
members
at
Saint
Francis
to
try
to
provide
some
of
that
kind
of
counseling
do
do
they
still
do
that?
Do
you
know.
I
Because
it
seems
to
me
we
have
a
variety
of
services
and
programs
from
a
variety
of
different
directions,
with
a
variety
of
Community
Partners
and
we
can
always
provide
more
but
I,
guess
I,
don't
I,
don't
see
other
than
at
some
point,
maybe
finding
some
funding
to
revisit
the
echo
program
when
the
fire
department
feels
they've
got
the
bandwidth
to
take
it
on
that
I!
Guess:
I!
Don't
I,
don't
see
an
actionable
item
here.
W
I
was
going
to
say
the
same
thing:
I
think
our
fire
department,
if
they're
saying
that
this
is
a
heavy,
lift
and
lieu
of
the
things
that
are
happening.
We
have
to
respect
that
and
if
we
could
come
up
with
a
plan
that
makes
sense
and
give
us
some
time
to
do
that
and
I
jump
into
a
program
that
will
burden
the
service
Services.
AA
And
if
I
could
just
respond,
real,
quick,
I
I
do
appreciate
that
and
I
think
if
we
can
find
the
point,
the
purpose
right,
what
what
are
we
really
trying
to
focus
on
and
this
year
we
can
absolutely.
We
have
all
kinds
of
data
on
the
types
of
calls
we
go
on,
but
we
could
try
to
really
hone
in
on
different
types
of
calls
that
I
can
get
feedback
from
the
firefighter.
So
I
responded
to
these
calls
on
people
that
we
see.
Maybe
you
know
five
six
times
a
month.
A
If
I
can
jump
in
so
it
based
on
the
memo,
it
seemed
as
though
you
know
there's
a
question
whether
or
not
to
expand
it.
It
seems
like
from
what
you
said
like
the
economy
of
scale.
To
like
you
know,
the
the
intent
was
like
to
kind
of
head
off
these.
You
know
calls
for
you
know
emergency
services
that
weren't
really
Emergency
Services.
You
know
you
all
found
that
it
was
like
a
much
smaller
population
that
you
know
kind
of
repeat
customers.
A
Just
thinking
off
the
top
of
my
head,
I
was
one
I
was
curious
if,
like
director
Oakville
had
any
feedback
is
like.
Is
there
any
of
your
staff
that
maybe
has
kind
of
similar,
but
not
quite
the
same
responsibility
with
the
community
members
that
might
be
able
to.
Y
To
pick
this
up
so
based
on
conversations
that
we
had
about
Reviving
Echo
it
surrounded
to
a
response
to
homelessness,
panhandling
loitering,
some
social
service
referrals
within
helping
the
services
department,
we
have
a
number
of
Socials,
so
service
individuals
who
respond
to
similar
situations.
For
example,
we
have
our
victim
Services
Unit
that
responds
to
crisis
situations
that
are
social
worker
under
Echo
might
be
responding
to
and
their
responsibility
is
to
refer,
counseling
and
to
help
help
with
crisis
the
escalation.
So
we
do
have
some
elements
of
that
response
already
embedded
in
the
department
and
I.
Y
Y
Y
But
we
have
to
ask
ourselves
questions:
do
we
have
those
calls
to
spend
a
significant
amount
of
money
on
and
in
this
response
model
and
the
example
that
was
given
was
the
star
model
in
Denver,
which
I
actually
had
an
opportunity
to
to
talk
to
them?
They
actually
had
to
implement
this
program
based
on
the
number
of
calls
and
needs
and
as
the
chief
parlor
suggested,
it
doesn't
appear
that
we
have
those
calls
and
we
haven't
necessarily,
as
I
mentioned,
pinpointed
the
calls
that
we'll
be
responding
to.
If
this
is
eventually
implemented.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
sir.
Any
other
discussion,
no
lights,
so
I
think
this
I
guess
my
takeaway
is.
We
need
some
more
data.
I
mean
I
think
this
could
be
an
interesting
program,
but
we
need
staff
additional
staff
that
we
don't
have
right
now,
so
also
I.
Think
the
question
is
that
what
are
we
trying?
What
other
problems
we're
not
trying
to
head
off
and
I?
Think
probably
the
data
Gathering
mode
of
things,
so
thank
you,
I
think,
since
we'll
just
for
discussion,
I
think
we're
we're
done
with
that.
A
And
that
brings
us
to
we
have
hs11,
which
was
an
item
for
communication,
but
that
we
we
did
not
get
the
the
updated
memo
for
that.
So
we
will
skip
that
so
seeing
no
other
business
to
attend
to.
If
someone
can
make
a
motion
to
adjourn.