►
From YouTube: Human Services Committee Meeting 1-3-2023
Description
No description was provided for this meeting.
If this is YOUR meeting, an easy way to fix this is to add a description to your video, wherever mtngs.io found it (probably YouTube).
A
All
right
welcome
to
the
January
3rd
Human
Services
committee
meeting,
happy
New
Year
everyone
up
here
and
also
out
there
in
the
world.
We're
gonna
get
started
with
a
roll
call
for
Quorum
checks.
I
believe
one
of
our
members
is
participating
remotely.
So
if
we
could
call
the
road
please.
A
A
We
have
a
quorum,
so
I'll
call
the
meeting
to
order.
We
are
going
to
go
to
public
comment.
Next,
it
looks
like
we
have
one
public,
commenter,
Don,
Zeigler,
Ziegler,
Ziegler,.
C
Good
evening
and
and
happy
New
Year
dear
members
of
the
a
human
services
committee,
my
name
is
Don
Ziegler
I'm,
chair
of
the
Evanston
Health
advisory
Council
and
faculty
member
of
UIC
School
of
Public
Health
I
live
at
1430
Elmwood
in
the
fourth
ward,
I'm
speaking
on
my
behalf
tonight
against
the
recent
proposal
to
amend
city
ordinances
to
allow
cannabis
smoking
establishments
according
to
the
Centers
for
Disease
Control
and
prevention.
Cdc
second
hand.
C
Marijuana
smoke
contains
many
of
the
same
toxic
and
cancer
causing
chemicals
found
in
tobacco
smoke
and
contain
some
of
the
some
of
those
chemicals
in
higher
amounts.
The
American
Lung
Association
states
that
no
one
should
be
exposed
to
second-hand
marijuana
smoke.
According
to
the
Tobacco
Control
legal
Consortium
to
protect
Public
Health,
improve
consistency
and
Aid
enforcement.
C
Smoke-Free
laws
for
public
places
and
workplaces
should
include
tobacco
as
well
as
marijuana,
whether
it
is
smoked
or
aerosolized
allowing
marijuana
smoking
in
places
where
smoking
is
now
prohibitive
could
undermine
laws
that
protect
the
public
from
exposure
to
second-hand
smoke.
Many
other
communities
have
taken
action
already
as
of
October
of
last
year.
C
I'm
convinced
that
amending
city
ordinances
to
allow
cannabis
smoking
establishments
is
not
only
unwise
but
would
also
undercut
one
priority
of
our
e-plan,
that
is,
it
would
definitely
not
Advance
Health
and
racial
equity.
In
conclusion,
I
agree
with
the
Americans
for
non-smokers
rights
that,
in
the
interest
of
Public
Health,
the
use
of
combustible
or
error
size,
aerosolized
marijuana
should
be
prohibited
wherever
tobacco
smoking
is
prohibited.
A
And
if
you
don't
mind
David,
because
I
looked
on
the
the
website,
I'm
just
trying
to
see
what
so
this
is
the
health
advisory
Council
or
maybe
director,
oh
well,
you
can
help
me
understand
more
about
this
Council.
So.
D
This
is
a
constant
good
day:
I
go
go
back
to
health
and
human
services.
The
Evanston
Health
Council
was
established
many
years
ago,
and
it
comprises
of
many
individuals
who
are
in
Academia
Public
Health
the
medical
field
and
social
services,
and
that
stance
is
to
provide
advice
to
our
Health
and
Human
Services
Department
in
the
way
in
which
we
provide
Community
Health,
slash,
Public
Health
in
Evanston,
we
meet
on
a
regular
basis
to
discuss
health
issues.
Their
input
has
been
very
Paramount
in
our
e-clan
and
also
for
those
who
are
here.
D
A
A
E
A
Or
in
person
when
one's
going
to
release
all
right
next
up
items
for
consideration,
we're
gonna
start
off
with
hs1.
If
I
can
have
a
motion,
please.
F
G
A
A
I
will
say
I
plan
to
table
this
I
have
requested
a
so
folks
may
recall
that
the
last
time
we
discussed
this
or
maybe
the
time
before
that
Ansel
glink
was
the
Corporation
Council
at
that
time
and
they
provided
an
oral
opinion
that
it
wasn't
in
writing
and
so
before
this
meeting
I
asked
for
that
opinion,
which
does
conflict
I
believe
with
with
with
our
with
the
law
departments,
with
our
Law
Department
opinion
at
this
time.
A
If
they
could
reduce
that
to
writing
and
provided
in
a
memo
that
we
could
include
in
the
packet
the
to
use
that
as
part
of
as
we
deliberate
this
on
this
issue.
So
if
everybody's
okay,
with
that
I,
wanted
to
to
table
this
to
allow
for
more
time
to
receive
that
memo,
so
we
can
also
get
their
opinion
as
well
and.
A
F
Yeah
I
mean
I'm
happy
to
table
this
I
think
we
all
do
recall.
I
think
everyone
is
here.
Maybe
councilman
Rafael
may
have
been
out
that
particular
meeting
but
I
believe
everyone
in
council
member
Harris
was
not
here
at
the
time
either.
F
So
I
do
think
it's
helpful
to
have
that
opinion
from
Julie
tapendorf,
I
I,
don't
know
if
our
current
Law
Department
disagrees
with,
and
so
blank
I
think
this
memo
is
from
Chief
Stewart
just
to
be
clear
and
what
Angel
bling
told
us
at
the
time
and
we'll
get
it
in
another
memo
is
that
it
seems
as
though
there's
nothing
in
the
statute
that
requires
us
to
proactively
release
what
we
call
the
daily
crime
bulletin,
specifically
emailing
it
out
to
potentially
thousands
of
folks.
F
You
know
folks
who
are
on
that
list
have
not
been
convicted
of
a
crime.
They
could
give
out
the
wrong
message.
You
know
it.
It
potentially
causes
undue
burden
to
Residents
who
again,
who
have
not
yet
been
found
guilty.
I.
Think
it's
important
to
note
that
there
are
a
number
of
items
that
are
required
to
be
furnished
according
to
the
statute,
including
mug
shots
and
other
information
that
we
do
not
currently
release
in
the
daily
crime
bulletin
and
so
I
think
it
makes
sense
for
us
to
end
the
proact.
F
In
the
you
know,
a
public.
F
Distribution
of
the
daily
crime
bulletin,
without
request
and
so
I'll.
Just
with
that
move
to
table
this
to
the
next
meeting
to
be
supplemented
with
the
information
you
request
of
our
councilmember
burns,
the
the
Julian
tapendorf
memo.
A
All
right,
that's
that
it's
just
one,
was
moved
properly,
moved
to
be
tabled
to
our
next
meeting
and
it
was
seconded
as
well
and
then
we'll
all
those
in
favor
of
table
in
hs1
indicate
by
saying
aye.
All.
A
Right,
anyways,
all
right
the
eyes
have
it
all
right.
Moving
on
to
still
under
item
sir,
actually,
no
I'd
items
for
discussion,
hs1
Can,
someone
move
item
eight,
just
one,
please
I'll.
F
Move
item
hs1
underwriting
was
for
discussion.
The
amendment
to
city
ordinances
to
allow
cannabis
consumption
lounges.
A
Moved
and
seconded
any
discussion.
F
Yes,
I'm
I'm
happy
to
take
this
off.
I
made
a
referral
a
while
ago
to
allow
for
cannabis
consumption
lounges.
It
is
allowed
under
state
law,
I
and-
and
there
are
other
municipalities
that
are
moving
to
allow
cannabis
consumption
lounges.
It's
a
great
tax
opportunity,
I,
certainly
understand
and
hear
what
the
gentleman
from
our
health
advisor
group
is
mentioning.
This
would
not
allow
cannabis
consumption
at
you
know
at
you
know
regular
establishments.
F
These
would
be
designated
places
so
similar
to
what
the
gentleman
said
that
you
know
we
shouldn't
allow
cannabis
consumption
in
places
where
tobacco
isn't
able
to
be
consumed.
Certainly
there
are
cigar
lounges.
There
are
hookah
lounges.
There
are
places
where
you
can
consume
tobacco
in
an
area
that
is
a
designated
specifically
for
the
consumption
of
tobacco,
thereby
not
exposing
folks
who
don't
want
to
be
in
that
environment
to
that
environment,
so
the
similar
situation
would
be
established
here
for
cannabis
consumption.
F
I
Mr
Ziegler's
comments
to
be
very
helpful
and
important
and
I'm
in
I'm
inclined
to
agree
with
his
view
that
this
would
be
a
mistake.
I
I
guess,
I
have
a
question
about
what
actually
we're
being
asked
to
do
here.
I
mean
we're
not
this
is
for
discussion,
so
we're
not
really
being
asked
to
approve
an
ordinance
question
mark.
A
Not
today
yeah
no,
this
is
this
is
only
for
discussion
and
I
believe
this
is
council
member
Reed's
referral.
So
he
can.
He
can
describe
his
intuitive.
F
Well,
yeah,
the
intent
is
for
an
ordinance
to
be
put
forward.
You
know,
I
would
have
preferred
again
an
ordinance
to
have
been
put
forward
at
this
point,
but
you
know
to
get
direction.
I
think
following
in
line
with
what
Mr
Ziegler
is
saying,
I'm
hearing
the
real
concern
is
that
we
don't
want
folks,
you
know
consuming
cannabis,
you
know
in
in
in
open
air
or
in
spaces
that,
where
cigarette
consumption
or
tobacco
consumption
isn't
allowed,
this
would
not
be
the
case.
F
The
idea
here
is
to
create
designated
establishments
that
would
go
through
permitting
some
permitting
process
in
order
to
establish
a
cannabis
consumption
Lounge
under
state
law.
With
you
know
the
tobacco
consumption
lounges
and
cannabis
consumption
allowances.
There
are
regulations
as
to
the
air
filtration
and
a
whole
host
of
other
regulations,
and
so
at
one
hour,
Law
Department
to
draft
our
local
ordinance
in
alignment
with
state
law.
You
know
when
you
look
at
and
I
agree
I
mean.
Are
there
dangers
to
cannabis
and
do
we
want?
F
You
know
sure
I
mean?
But
you
know,
if
you
look
at
the
hierarchy
of
substances,
alcohol
causes
far
more
societal
harm,
potentially
than
cannabis
and
other
substances
that
we
currently
criminalize
and
so
I
think
it
makes
sense
under
our
current
framework
to
allow
for
cannabis
consumption
lounges,
particularly
given
that
our
reparations
program
is
so
so
tied
to
cannabis.
Revenue.
J
I
was
just
wondering
if
we
have
any
precedents
and
places
that
I
can
look
up
where
they've
already
done
this,
how
it
works,
what
the
attitude
of
the
cities
that
are
hosting
these
smoking
establishments.
If
we
have
any
of
that
information,
council
member
Reed,.
F
Yeah
and
and
I
I
I
I
I,
don't
refer
them
as
I
wish
that
the
my
referral
was
for
cannabis,
consumption
lounges,
I,
believe
Chicago
is,
is
moving
toward
allowing
consumption,
lounges,
councilman,
Burns
I,
don't
know
if
you're
familiar
with
some
downstate
consumption
lounges.
F
A
I
think
this
is
just
for
discussion,
so
we
can
it's
a
good
good
information
that
we
can
bring
back
to
the
next
meeting.
So
good
question.
J
A
I
think
that
is
regulated
by
State
Statute
and.
F
A
A
Organizations
it's
pretty
clear,
so
you
can
you're
allowed
to
have
a
consumption
Lounge
at
either
a
dispension
organization
or
a
cannabis
dispension
organization
to
be
clear
or
I
think
a
smoke
shop
can
also
apply
if,
if
the
municipality
allows
for
it
and
and
my
understanding
of
dispension
organization,
because
they
are
cannabis
suspensary,
they
can
purchase
the
Cannabis
from
the
dispensary.
No.
D
So
my
understanding
is
if
this
applies
it
pretty
much
applies
to
dispensing
and
selling.
When
I
read
the
code,
the
Illinois
code
in
regards
to
this,
it
does
not
specify
if
consumption
it
is
allowed,
but
it
allows
for
dispensing
and
selling
of
cannabis
in
these
facilities
that
you
mentioned.
Could
you.
D
D
So
when
you
refer
to
the
dispensing
organizations,
there
requirement
only
pretty
much
states
dispensing
and
selling
there's
no
mention
of
consumption
there.
So
that's
what
I
want
to
clarify
from
my
understanding,
there's
a
difference
between
dispensing
and
consuming
cannabis
at
the
facilities,
yeah.
A
We
can
clarify
that,
but
it's
it's
I'm,
pretty
certain
that
smoke
lounges
are
allowed
at
dispensing
organizations
as
well
as
smoke
shops
as
well
the
world.
We
could
provide
that
clarification
between
meetings,
Council
Harris,
any
other
questions.
Thank
you.
Okay.
Any
other
comments,
questions,
councilmember,
Ravel.
I
No
I
may
not
vote
for
it.
I
guess
we'd
want
to
have
the
ordinance
provide,
which
district
which
zoning
districts
could
could
have.
One
of
these
establishments
would
we'd
want
it
to
be
at
least
as
restrictive
as
yeah
and
and
you.
I
And
and
I
did
do
a
just
a
quick
look
online
about
what
other
states
are
doing
in
terms
of
these
establishments,
and
some
of
them
are
bring
your
own
and
some
of
them
some
allow
bring
your
own
and
some
don't
so
you
know
that
would
be
what
we'd
obviously
have
to
see
what
Illinois
statute
says.
But
you
know
there
are
two
approaches
and,
and
in
some
places
they
allow
alcohol
sales
as
well
food
sales
as
well,
and
some
don't
so
there.
There
are
a
lot
of
details
to
be
considered.
H
D
So,
yes,
in
terms
of
food,
it
will
be
disallowed
at
a
cannabis
consumption
Lounge.
It
can
serve
as
a
contaminant
and
it
is
against
our
food
code
to
allow
food
in
the
same
vicinity
as
cannabis.
Consumption.
A
Okay,
I'll,
have
you?
Okay,
we'll
go
councilmember
council
member
Reed.
G
Yeah,
the
the
information
I'd
want
to
hear
is
just
about
the
air
filtration
and
kind
of
the
the
secondhand
smoke.
I
think
you
know
their
places
with
cigar
lounges
that
are
probably
more
damaging,
potentially
and
I
know
they
have.
You
know:
mitigations
around
air
quality
I'd
be
more
concerned
for
the
staff
that
work
there,
but
that'd
be
kind
of
the
information
I'd
like
to
see
going
forward.
F
Yeah
I
just
want
to
highlight
one
to
council
memberhead's
point
there
for
me.
That
is,
you
know.
F
One
of
the
most
important
factors
is
the
air
filtration
and
I
understand
that
under
the
tobacco
consumption
lounges
that
you
know
that
is
regulated
and
I
think
we'd
want
to
mirror
that
fairly
closely
or
whatever
the
state
law
says
generally
on
cannabis,
consumption
lounges
separately
to
council
member
ravel's
point
in
my
apologies
for
interrupting
there
is
I,
certainly
agree
that
this
should
be
worked
into
our
zoning
code
in
some
way
and
likely
that
these
consumption
lounges
would
have
to
go
through.
F
I
would
imagine,
in
my
view,
some
sort
of
you
know
a
special
use
process
or
something
similar
I
I
do
think
that
these
should
be
highly
regulated
and
should
have
to
come
before
a
counselor
land
use
commission
before
being
granted
a
right
top
right
here
and
then
lastly,
I
do
think
about
you
know
I,
wonder
if
the
state
code
says
this,
because
certainly
there
are
infused,
you
know
whether
it
be
drinks
or
dishes,
and
you
know
I
also
could
imagine
a
cannabis
consumption
Lounge,
where
there's
more
than
one
way
to
ingest
cannabis
and
yeah
smoking.
F
It
is
not
the
only
way
to
ingest
it
and
they're.
You
know
some
classy
establishments
that
have
you
know
infused.
You
know
cannabis
THC
into
dining
experiences
and
so
I'd
wonder
how
that
would
fit
in
and
if
you
know
those
would
you
know
there
would
be
a
cannabis
consumption
Lounge
as
well.
Although
it's
not
it's
not
smoked,
it's
it's.
It's
through
an
edible
form,
so
I
just
love
our
audience
to
to
maybe
consider
that
as
well.
A
Yeah
I,
don't
think
the
they
have
responded
in
writing
to
this.
But
I
have
discussed
this
with
Council
Cummings
before
so
we
need
I'm.
J
J
A
Don't
think
I've
reached
out
to
the
because
so
just
to
be
clear
too
so
councilman
Marie
made
the
referral.
I
have
been
working
to
try
to
recruit
a
dispensary
organizations
to
Evanston,
which
was
always
a
plan
both
to
just
expand
a
new
business
type
in
Evanston,
but
also
in
light
of
the
fact
that
all
the
revenue
from
it
goes
to
support
our
reparations
program.
A
Of
course,
and
so
as
part
of
that,
there
was
a
lot
of
the
new
dispensary
organizations
who
were
only
recently
provided
their
conditional
use
licenses
are
interested
in
yes
dispensing,
but
also
taking
advantage
of
the
exemption.
That's
in
stakehold
allowing
for
cannabis
consumption
lounges,
which
is
kind
of
how
I
got
involved
on
this
issue.
And
then
since
then,
I've
been.
You
know
in
talks
with
our
health
department,
it
with
our
I
think
building
department,
Buildings
Department,
but
not
our
Police
Department.
A
So
I
just
wanted
to
keep
flipping
back
and
forth
and
losing
my
place
or
is
it
at
there?
It
is
so
I
just
wanted
to
be
clear
that
that
the
state
does
have
an
exemption
for
this,
and
I
mentioned
it
earlier.
You
know
the
the
last
piece
of
of
what
they
call
their
I
think
their
smoke
free
access
and
owners
shall
reasonably
assure
that
smoking
is
prohibited,
indoor
in
indoor,
public
places
and
workplaces
unless
specifically
Exempted
by
section
35
of
this
act
and
then
that's
session.
A
Section
35
goes
on
to
say,
notwithstanding
any
other
provision
of
this
act,
smoking
is
allowed
in
the
following
areas
and
then
it
talks
about
dispensing
organizations
as
one
of
them.
After
that
it
says
cannabis,
regulation
and
Tax
Act
authorized
or
permitted
by
a
unit
local
government
to
allow
on-site
consumption
of
cannabis.
A
If
the
establishment
maintains
a
specially
designated
area
or
areas
for
the
purpose
of
heating,
burning
smoking
or
lighting
cannabis,
two
is
limited
to
individuals,
21
or
older,
and
three
maintains
a
locked
door
or
barrier
to
any
specifically
designated
areas
for
the
purpose
of
heating,
burning
smoking
or
lighting
cannabis
and
then,
as
as
councilman
Reed
I
believe
said
earlier,
there
are.
A
It
does
also
speak
to
filtration,
as,
as
you
said,
councilmember,
so
it's
very
clear
in
State
Statute
that
that
that
they
allow
for
indoor
cannabis
smoke,
lounges
and
and
we'll
have
some
more
information
at
the
next
meeting.
Yes,.
J
J
J
Told
you
maybe
no
you're
good,
so
I
do
want
us
to
just
take
our
time
with
this
I'm
very
nervous
about
this
and
I
understand
that
and
I
want
to
also
be
very
careful
in
associating
it
with
reparations,
because
I
think
that
has
negative
pushback,
especially
if
this
fails
or
even
if
it
goes
forward
and
doesn't
do
well.
So
I
just
want
to
be
careful
that
we
don't
marry
the
two
strongly
and
that
we
just
take
our
time.
I
am
not
ready.
Even
I
noticed
for
discussion.
A
Yeah
to
be
clear,
I
was
more
so
trying
cannabis
suspension
organizations
to
our
reparations
program
because
in
Evanston
we're
we're
probably
two.
We
probably
don't
have
the
size
of
property
that
is
gonna.
A
That
gives
me
a
reasonable
expectation
that
we're
going
to
attract
craft
girl
organizations,
so
we're
probably
only
going
to
attract
infusers
and
dispensaries
dispensary
license
holders
and
that's
all
and-
and
it
is
just
in
the
way
we
adopted
the
the
the
the
reparations
ordinance
it
is,
is
literally
tied
to
it.
To
you
know
our
ability
to
expand
our
you
know
cannabis,
businesses
and
again
I
think
just
with
the
type
of
real
estate
that
we
have
available.
We're
really
talking
about
infusers
and
dispensaries.
F
And
if
you
want
to
know
to
have
my
hand
up-
oh
sorry,
Council
memory.
Yes,
thank
you
and
and
I
appreciate
you
sharing.
You
know
your
hesitation
councilmember
Harris,
because
certainly
we
can
have
conversations
but
I
I
do
want
to
highlight
again.
You
know
that
this
is
and
I'd
love.
F
If
you
feel
comfortable,
if
you
have
it
now
or
if
you
just
want
to
have
offline
conversation
about
what
some
of
those
specific
concerns
are
I'd
love
to
hear
it,
especially
if
your
staff
to
hear
it
as
well,
but
so
we
can
legislate
around
that.
But
you
know
I
really
want
us
to
think
about
this.
Like
a
bar,
it's
not
much
different
than
you
know
a
place
where
folks
are
licensed
to
go
to
sell
and
consume
alcohol.
It
would
be
cannabis
and
certainly
the
you
know.
F
We
know
that
you
know
even
their
their
studies
and
I
can
provide
some
of
this
to
staff.
That
show
even
the
second
hand,
effects
of
alcohol
can
be
just
as
bad.
F
You
know
obviously
not
inhaling
alcohol
or
consuming
it,
but
you
know
the
risk
that
someone
intoxicated
from
alcohol
poses
to
another
person
is
even
and
greater
than
that
of
someone
who
is
a
a
cannabis
user,
and
so
you
know
I
I,
appreciate
those
concerns
and
want
to
hear
more
about
them,
but
I
want
us
to
think
about
this
kind
of
like
a
bar
and
I
understand
that
this
is
actually
a
safer
version
of
a
bar
in
many
cases.
A
I
also
just
wanted
to
say
I
would
I
would
love
to
us
for
us
to
consider
of
establishing
the
Evanston
Health
advisory
Council
as
a
as
a
real
City
committee
and
Council
I've,
seen
Mr
Ziegler
I
believe
is
his
name
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
Council
on
two
separate
occasions,
one
about
hookah,
lounges
and
now
about
cannabis.
Lounges,
which
again
we
I
I,
speak
for
myself.
A
I
encourage
as
much
kind
of
public
and
citizen
participation
as
possible
that
that
being
so,
because
he's
representing
the
health
advisory,
Council
I
think
we
have
a
good
model
for
the
way
to
solicit
this
type
of
input
from
our
members
of
the
community
and
I.
Think
that's
through
having
it
be
an
official
committee
where
there's
an
open
application
period
where
people
can
apply
to
sit
on
the
committee.
They
have
regular
open
meetings.
A
We
could
have
sent
this
issue
to
to
that
Health
advisory
Council
in
advance
of
this
meeting
and
and
and
heard
from
them
in
that
way
as
well,
and
then
they
could
have
made
kind
of
an
official
recommendation.
So
I
work
with
mayor
business
and
figured
out
how
to
do
that.
But
I
would
love
and
and
I
would
love
Mrs
Ziegler
to
participate
on
that
official
kind
of
City
committee,
but
I
do
think
it
should
be
official
council
member
Revell.
I
I
just
have
to
say,
I
I,
disagree,
I,
think
this
council
is
a
very
different
kind
of
a
group
compared
to
our
regular
boards
and
commissions
and
and
I
think
I
I,
don't
know
who
else
is
on
it
besides
Mr
Ziegler
but
I
I.
Imagine
the
people
are
there
because
of
their
professional
expertise
and
their
role
in
the
in
other
health,
public
health
organizations.
So
maybe
director
we.
D
Have
a
variation
of
individuals
who
are
on
the
council?
We
have
Doctors
medical
doctors,
we
have
the
Department's
medical
consultant,
we
have
social
workers,
we
have
public
health
professionals,
so
these
are
people
who
are
experts
in
the
airfields
and
whenever
it
pertains
to
a
matter
of
of
Health,
we
relay
such
matters
to
the
cancer
in
order
to
get
their
input
and
recommendations
on
those
matters
and
they've
been
with
the
city.
D
As
long
as
I've
been
with
the
city,
I've
been
with
the
city
for
a
number
of
years
and
they've
been
able
to
Advance
Health
and
provide
input
on
a
varied
amount
of
subjects
relating
to
to
health,
and,
as
I
mentioned,
they
were
very
instrumental
in
tobacco
21.
When
we
increased
the
age
from
18
to
21,
that's
one
of
them
one
of
what
they
worked
on.
Also
when
we
had
the
Fairly
qualified,
Health,
Center
Erie,
they
were
very
instrumental
in
getting
an
eerie
here
to
the
city.
D
As
most
of
us
remember,
the
department
was
quite
decimated
when
it
came
to
our
Clinical
Services,
and
people
really
didn't
have
anywhere
to
go
to
at
that
point.
So
they
took
it
upon
themselves
to
approach
various
stakeholders
to
bring
Erie
Health
Center
to
the
community,
so
they
are
very
instrumental.
They
have
done
quite
a
lot
in
our
in
our
community,
so
yeah
I'm.
F
Yeah
I
I,
I
I,
also
I
just
wanted
to
jump
in
and
say
I
don't
want
us
to
get
too
lost
in
the
conversation
about
the
committee.
Maybe
we
can
come
back
and
bring
put
that
on
an
agenda
and
discuss
that
at
some
point
and
and
I
just
don't
want
these
two
issues
to
get
too
jumbled
and
maybe
too
tied
together,
certainly
just
to
the
concerns
that
I'm
hearing
raised
I
I
think
we
should
follow.
You
know
the
the
best
research
and
science
on
this
stuff.
F
You
know
so
you
know
we
talked
about
this
commission
or
committee,
or
advisory
Council
group
supporting
moving
the
smoking
age
up
to
21..
You
know
again.
We
know
that
with
cannabis
consumption,
you
know
that
the
brain
isn't
fully
developed
until
around
age
25
and
there
are
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
of
research
that
says
it's
best
to
start
consuming
cannabis
after
25.
F
So
if
we
want
to
say
you
got
to
be
25
or
older
to
go
to
the
consumption
lounges
I'm,
fine
with
that
I
think
we
should
follow
the
science
I
think
we
should
come
back
with
a
a
well-crafted
ordinance
that
allows
for
these
consumption
allowances
allows
for
dispensaries
to
have
the
flexibility
that
they
need
to
be
profitable
here
in
the
City
of
Evanston
and
expand
the
revenues
that
we
have
for
the
important
efforts
that
we
are
that
we're
working
on.
A
Yeah
I
was
just
to
rap
on
what
up
what
I
was
saying
is
is
and
I'll
before
we
get
this
on
the
future
agenda.
I
work
with
councilman
ready
Cutters
on
this
I,
don't
think
we
have
such
a
council
that
that
weighs
in
on
policy
in
the
way
it
seems
like
this
group
is,
as
that
isn't
an
official
City
committee
with
with
open
meetings
and
agendas.
A
So
people
can
kind
of
follow
their
deliberation
as
they're
coming
to
conclusions
about
how
they
they
plan
to
weigh
in
on
these
policy
decisions,
which
is
what
concerns
me.
It's
not
the
people
at
all
I
think
it
probably
is
a
great
group,
I'd
love
to
even
know
who
who
is
on
it?
A
Absolutely
it
would
be
even
a
first
start,
even
if
there
wasn't
enough
support
to
make
it
an
official
committee,
although
I
think
there
will
be
I'll
make
a
strong
case
for
it,
but
even
if
there
wasn't
just
a
public
list
of
who
is
on
the
committee,
I
think
it's
just
it's
just
best
practice
and
again
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
we
have
another
committee
that
weighs
in
on
policy
in
this
way.
A
That
is
not
an
official
City
committee,
and
certainly
not
one
that
is
not
named
at
all
on
any
City
website
and
and
I
was
the
last
thing
I'll
say
is
if
they
were
only
weighing
in
on
administrative
issues.
That
would
be
one
thing
like
this
is.
This
is
a
kind
of
a
body
that
helps
to
counsel
me
on
administrative
decisions
once
they
step
step
into
our
realm,
then
it's
like
you
know.
D
A
Yeah
and
I
again,
I
appreciate
appreciate
all
the
input.
Okay,
so
we're
moving
on.
This
is
just
for
discussion.
It
does
not
require
any
action,
so
we'll
move
on
to
hs2
actually
before
we
move
on
I
just
director,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you
do
do
you
have
you
received
enough
direction
from
us
as
to
what
we
would
like
to
see
when
this
comes
back
or
the
information
that
we
need.
D
Well,
my
understanding
is
that
we
want
to
well
crafted
executed
ordinance,
we'll
have
to
look
at
various
ordinances
across
departments
that
the
bar
cannabis
consumption,
our
cleaner
act,
deposit,
it
is
explicitly
stated
in
our
ordinance
I,
believe,
there's
a
zoning
code
that
also
prevents
cannabis
consumption.
D
D
A
So
we'll
I'll
make
sure
to
because
what
I
read
from
was
from
the
state
statute.
So
I
was
clearly
talks
about
consumption,
lounges,
so
I'll
forward
that
to
you
and
Corporation
Council
Cummins,
but
also
don't
want
to
mess
with
councilmember
Harris
requested.
A
Just
if
you
could
check
in
with
a
law
Department
around
our
Police
Department
to
have
them
weigh
in
and
there
was
I
felt
like
there
were
several
others,
but
if
yeah
other
communities
was
one
of
them
yep
and
and
if,
if
anybody
else
any
other
members
can
just
provide
that
in
writing
through
email,
I
think
that'll
be
helpful.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that
you
have
everything
you
need
before
the
next
meeting.
Okay,
so
we'll
move
on
to
item
hs2
can
I
have
a
motion.
Please.
F
I
will
move
item
hs2
amending
city
code;
seven
two
nine
be
one
fourth
of
July
Parkway
Fourth
of
July
parade,
Parkway
regulations.
Second,.
F
Yeah
I
I'll
open
this
up.
The
the
goal
here
is
just
to
make
sure
that
our
parade
Provisions
are
clear
for
all
parades.
You
know,
as
as
corporate
his
Council
Cummings
in
the
room.
A
F
Okay,
I'm,
sorry,
who
is
the
council
there
I
I'm,
unable
to
see
Johnson.
F
Mr
Johnson:
okay,
yes,
so
I
I
I.
What
we
see
here
is
this
ordinance
specifically
regulates
for
the
Fourth
of
July
parade,
and
even
if
you
look
at
the
memo
that
the
legal
department
provided
in
Miss
Johnson,
please
correct
me.
F
If
I'm,
you
know
saying
something
wrong,
but
you
know
potentially,
if
let's
say
the
the
Juneteenth
parade
were
to
want
to,
they
were
to
get
a
parade
license
and
they
wanted
to
occupy
the
parkway
similar
and
to
in
a
similar
manner
that
the
Fourth
of
July
parade
is
allowed
to
occupy
the
parkway.
But
you
know,
of
course
this
would
be
done
on
a
different
street.
They
use
a
different
Parade
route
different
date
different
time.
F
You
know
that
could
potentially
be
a
legal
issue
if
we
were
to
Grant
one
set
of
regulations
for
the
Fourth
of
July
parade,
but
not
allow
those
set
of
regulations
for
other
dually
authorized,
parades
and
so
I
think
it
just
makes
sense
that
we
either
amend
this
to
just
have
the
language
reflect
parades
period,
and
you
know,
wherever
the
parade
happens,
you
know
you
can
occupy
the
parkway
for
a
reasonable
amount
of
time.
F
I
think
even
the
way
this
ordinance
is
written
being
able
to
occupy
pie,
the
parkway
from
as
early
as
July
1st,
all
the
way
to
July
4th
seems
a
bit
excessive.
Maybe
it's
a
24-hour
period
or
maybe
at
most
a
48
hour
period.
I
think
you.
E
F
Hours
is
likely
good
enough
that
you
get
to
you,
set
your
stuff
out
and
I
think
we
can
make
this
regulation
as
I
said,
Equitable
across
the
board.
It's
all
all
in
there.
I
Well,
I
I
agree
that
we
want
to
provide
the
same
accommodations
or
whatever
the
word
would
be
for
any
of
any
of
our
other
parades.
So
you
know:
I
I,
hadn't
I
haven't
really
figured
out
what
it
is.
The
we
could
either
say
that
that's
part
of
the
special
use
that
any
organization,
including
the
Fourth
of
July
Association,
needs
to
go
through
so
when
they
submit
their
special
use,
permit
application
for
their
parade.
I
I
A
I
A
Yeah
yeah
any
other
comments,
questions.
I
So
then,
would
we
be
recommending
we'd
have
to
imagine
so.
A
A
Can
you
are
you
able
to
to
describe
what
is
in
our
packet
for
today.
D
Or
yes,
absolutely
we
have
a
memo
and
there
is
an
attached
ordinance
specifically
to
the
topic
being
being
discussed
and
in
the
memo
it
does
provide
statements
that
what
is
provided
in
our
ordinance
is
not
constitutional.
D
As
Continental
Reed
mentioned
that
there's
an
equity
issue.
If
we
only
have
one
parade
for
a
particular
section
in
Evanston,
what
about
the
the
other
sections
in
in
Evanston,
but
he
appears
based
on
and
our
Law
Department
can
weigh
in
based
on
the
analysis
that
it's
not
unconstitutional,
yeah.
A
G
Kind
of
building
off
of
what
council
member
Revell
said,
maybe
the
because
we
we
already
like
have
the
ordinance
specifically
for
the
July
Fourth
of
July
Parkway
regulations
and
I
have
no
idea
how
many
special
use
we
have
for
parades.
But
I
do
like
the
idea
of
having
the
option
to
have
them
apply
for
a
Parkway,
I,
I,
don't
know
Parkway
regulation
and
then
I
think
it
would
just
be
a
matter
of
then
adding
the
similar
language
to
the
ordinance
before
the
event
happens.
G
I
think
it
would
get
it'd
be
awfully
hard
to
do
a
generalized
because
I
you
know
this
is
like
historically
I,
don't
know
how
long
this
has
been
on
the
books,
but
this
is
obviously
come
after
years
of
you
know,
experience
so
I
think
if
we
have
some
sort
of
addition
to
the
special
use
permit
for
our
parades,
we
can
kind
of
fold
the
newer
parades
into
the
parkway
regulation.
If
that's
you
know,
if
people
are
amenable
to
that,
yeah.
A
And
I'm-
not
even
convinced
at
this
point
and
I'll
talk
more
about
this
during
my
time.
If
we
even
need
an
ordinance
for
the
Fourth
of
July
parade
I,
think
even
the
Fourth
of
July
parade
could
just
go
through
that.
Whatever
this
new
process
is,
we
create
I,
don't
know
why
it
was
ever
added
to
or
I.
A
J
Was
going
to
say
the
same
thing,
there
must
have
been
an
issue
for
it
to
become
an
ordinance,
so
we
need
to
pay
attention
to
that
and
while
I'm
not
against
changing
the
ordinance
or
creating
something
where
you
have
to
request
this,
there
had
to
have
been
some
precedence
that
made
it
necessary
to
have
this.
So
we
need
to
always
pay
attention
to
our
historical
perspective
on
why
we
ended
up
where
we
were.
F
Thank
you
yes
and
I
appreciate
both
councilmember
ravel's
of
recounting
of
where
this
came
from
and
councilmember
Harrison's
concern
for
the
the
background
in
this.
H
F
I
I
agree:
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
account
for
the
you.
H
F
The
history
of
this
and
as
councilman
ruvel
said
you
know
we're
trying
to
regulate
similar
to
folks
in
Chicago,
with
the
dibs
system
we're
trying
to
regulate.
You
know
folks
calling
dibs
on
a
spot
for
the
Fourth
of
July
parade
and
I,
think
you
know
we
we
can
achieve
that
still
with
allowing
for
the
same
regulations
and
equity
for
whether
it
be
the
June
10th
parade,
or
you
know
the
Mother's
Day
Parade
or
whatever
parade
we
choose
to
have
here
in
Evanston
in
the
future.
F
F
You
know
parade
Parkway
Provisions
in
line
with
where
councilmember
Harry
cottes
was
going,
and
you
know
make
that
more
General
eliminate
the
the
reference
to
the
specific
streets
in
the
specific
days
and
give
an
allowance
of
you
know:
24
48,
Hours
folks,
you
know
with
the
request
of
the
parkway
occupation.
Permit
you
know
that
you
know
folks
can
set
out
their
lawn
chairs
or
blankets
or
whatever
else
you
know,
48
Hours
advance
of
the
parade.
K
Good
evening,
Deputy
city
manager,
Dave
stallback,
I'm
only
concerned
with
the
the
discussion
about
trying
to
tie
this
to
the
parade
permit,
because
the
organizer
of
the
parade
won't
know
what
public
wants
to
use
the
parkway.
So
this
is
in
the
code.
It's
not
like
the
organizer.
The
Fourth
of
July
parade
is
not
the
person
taking
up
the
spaces
along
the
parkway.
It's
the
community
members,
so
I
could
see
where
you
might
want
to
change
the
code
to
say
for
any
parade
on
any
route
setting
out
or
dedicating
areas.
K
Roping
off
areas
is,
is
prohibited
until
a
certain
amount
time
before,
but
I
don't
think
it
can
be
tied
to
the
permit,
because
the
the
person
obtaining
the
permit
is
not
the
person
occupying
the
parkway.
A
E
A
The
the
parade,
the
people
doing
the
parade
need
to
request
it
I
think
it
just
should
be
allowed
in
a
certain
window.
We
know
there's
a
parade
coming
down.
You
know
we
know.
Juneteenth
is
coming
down
Dodge
on
this
day,
people
are
allowed
to
start
setting
up
chairs,
starting
on
this
day
until
this
day
and
just
keep
it
simple.
K
A
Is
everybody
else
satisfied
with
that?
Yes,
okay,
you
have
enough
Direction
director,
wonderful
wait,
so
this
was
for
also
for
discussion.
So
yeah
we
were
just
providing
some
direction.
I
think
we
have
done
that,
and
so
we
move
on
to
item
hs3.
If
I
can
get
a
motion.
I
I
move
that
we
discuss
the
Nomo
May
recommendations
from
the
environment
Board.
Second,
it's.
A
Been
properly
moved
by
councilmember
Ravel
executive
by
councilmember
Harris,
any
discussion
on
this
Deputy
manager
Stone,
like
did
you
wanna,
kick
us
off
with
some
context,
or
should
we
go
and.
I
We
have
Wendy
Pollock
from
the
environment
board
is,
is
I
believe
available
to
provide
some
background
too.
A
Yeah,
if
you
wouldn't
mind
leading
us
on
this
intro.
L
Let's
see
well
councilmember
Ravel
did
you
want
to
give
a
little
context?
First
about
the.
A
I
Yeah
so
I
made
the
referral
a
year
roughly
a
year
ago,
because
there
was
a
lot
of
media
coverage
and
encouragement
of
people
to
not
mow
their
lawns
in
the
early
spring
to
allow
dandelions
Etc
to
nurture
our
bees
and
butterflies.
And
so
the
question
was:
could
we
could
we
should
we
try
to
promote
a
Nomo
May
here
in
Evanston
and
so
I
made
the
referral
I
sent
it?
I
It
went
to
the
environment
board
to
weigh
in
on
the
pros
and
cons
of
our
doing
that,
and
then
we
have
this
very
detailed
and
helpful
Memo
from
the
environment
board
and
with
some
recommendations
for
us
and
I
I'll,
just
say
initially
that
I
I
think
the
recommendations
are
really
really
to
be
supported.
So
maybe
maybe
Wendy
would
like
to
say
a
few
words
and
we
also
have
Stefan
Walker
available
I
believe
to
talk
about
because
some
of
the
recommendations
are
for
City
staff.
Okay,.
A
Yeah,
if
you
could
walk
us
through
the
recommendations,
or
at
least
a
summary
of
it,
is
Paula.
L
Sure,
okay,
thank
you.
So
we
divided
them
into
recommendations
for
the
council
and
recommendations
for
the
staff,
and
we
did
respond
to
the
specific
question
about
Nomo
May,
which
has
been
adopted
in
some
other
communities
as
a
community-wide
initiative.
We
we
suggested
that
this
is.
L
We
did
not
recommend
that
Evanston
do
this,
but
we
did
feel
that
letting
people
who
are
participating
in
it,
which
there
were
a
number
this
this
spring,
letting
them
do
it
and
not
penalizing
them,
might
be
one
way
to
go
just
as
context
we
clearly
as
part
of
our
pushing
for
the
full
implementation
of
the
climate
action
plan.
L
We
support
efforts
of
all
kinds
to
encourage
sustainable,
Landscape,
Management
and
natural
plants.
We
just
don't
think
that
not
mowing
your
lawn
is
necessarily
the
best
way
to
make
people.
You
know
more
positive
about
that.
It's
not
the
best
advertisement
from
some
people's
point
of
view
for
naturalized
Landscaping.
So,
but
we
do
feel
on.
L
Hand
that
any
opportunity
there
is
to
promote
ecological,
Landscape,
Management
or
sustainable
Landscape,
Management
more
extensive
use
of
native
plants
rather
than
Lawns,
which
take
a
lot
of
resources
to
maintain
and
aren't
terribly
good
for
pollinators.
We
we
do,
recommend
that
every
opportunity
be
taken
to
promote
that
and
allow
it.
So
so,
let's
see
and
I
as
far
as
the
staff
is
concerned
and
I
do
want
to
acknowledge
that
Stefan
Walker,
the
whole
forestry
and
Greenway
staffs
have
been
extremely
supportive.
L
I
I
work
in
the
lat
Arboretum,
where
we've
been
gradually
replacing
turf
grass
and
you
know
very
hard
damaged
soil
with
lots
of
very
dative
plants
and
the
City
staff
has
been.
You
know
nothing
but
helpful
and
supportive
and
collaborative,
and
that's
an
example
of
what
we're
talking
about
that.
We
hope
that
kind
of
Land
Management
can
be
extended
to
more
spaces
around
the
community.
L
People
really
seem
to
enjoy
it,
the
you
know
the
birds
enjoy
it
and
the
young
woman
I
think
this
is
very
telling
a
woman
in
her
senior
year
at
eths,
said
to
me
recently
when
I,
you
know,
I
told
her
what
we've
been
doing
there
she'd
walked
through
there,
her
whole
school
life.
You
know
after
school
and
she
lit
up,
and
she
said:
oh,
it
seems
as
if
the
arboretum's
been
getting
bigger
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
So
I
think
you
know
her
perception
was
that
it.
L
It
was
more
interesting
to
walk
through
more
refreshing
and
so
from
the
human
point
of
view
and
the
mental
health
point
of
view.
We
also
recommend
it,
so
maybe
I'll
just
leave
it
at
that.
Maybe
this
one
other
other
recommendation
which
had
to
do
with
Buckthorn
is
kind
of
a
technicality,
but
part
of
natural
Landscape
Management
is
planting.
Part
of
it
is
keeping
invasive
plants
from
taking
over,
and
so
that's
one
reason
you
hear
a
lot
about
Buckthorn
removal.
L
In
this
context,
and
and
so
we
did
have
a
very
concrete
suggestion
about
adding
Buckthorn
to
the
wheat
ordinance
list
of
weeds
so
that
it
would
encourage
people
to
remove
it
so
other
than
that.
The
committee,
the
board
and
the
stewards
are
all
ready
to
help
with
public
education
and
I
just
grateful
for
the
opportunity.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
Miss
Pollock
I
appreciate
that
so
for
for
City
staff,
I
just
wanted
to
read
out
the
first
recommendation.
It
says
we
recommend
that
the
city
suspend
enforcement
of
the
city's
weed
ordinance
city
code,
section
8.5
in
April,
and
the
first
two
weeks
of
May
to
allow
for
some
Lawns
to
temporarily
exceed
eight
inches
in
height.
This
suspension
should
be
accompanied
by
public
education,
about
better
Alternatives,
I'll
start
there
and
so
Deputy
manager.
Stoneback
is
there.
What
is
the
city's
kind
of
position
on
on
that?
First
recommendation.
K
Good
evening
again,
I
agree
that
we
should
allow
do
this
and
I
think
that
council
member
Revell
had
a
excellent
suggestion
within
a
referral
that
we
set
up
a
system
where
they
call
3-1-1
indicate
that
they
want
to
participate
with
this
program
at
their
house.
K
The
city
would
then
say,
will
come
to
this
location
and
pick
up
a
yard
sign
so
that
they
could
put
the
yard
sign
in
there
at
their
home,
and
then
the
city
would
not
enforce
The
Gnome
the
weed
regulation
about
the
height
of
the
grass
until
whatever
date,
the
city
council
selects
that
the
that
would
end.
This
recommends
the
second
week
of
May
some
recommend
all
through
May.
So
that
would
have
to
be
something
that
would
have
to
be
decided
upon.
K
Then
we
could
have
a
code
modification
and
allow
the
variants
that
community
members
that
have
the
guard
sign
in
their
home
and
are
registered
do
not
have
would
not
be
penalized
under
this
week
code.
So
staff
is
fine
with
that
suggestion.
If
that's
how
the
city
council
would
like
us
to
move
forward
with.
I
Right
that
makes
it
sound
like
the
city
is
in
fact
really
endorsing
a
Nomo
May
program.
I
guess
my
question
to
staff
is:
can
we
just
simply
determine
not
to
enforce
the
weed
ordinance
for
that
those
weeks
and
and
and
instead
promote
education
about
true
true
way
to
provide
the
habitat
that
our
pollinators
need.
K
I,
don't
think
it's
appropriate
for
staff
to
turn
and
a
blind
eye
on
our
city
code.
So
if
we
do
it
for
this,
then
people
would
say
why
don't
you
do
it
for
that,
and
so
the
code
could
be
modified,
perhaps
that
we
don't
enforce
the
I
did
a
grass
until
after
a
certain
until
the
second
week
of
until
May
15th,
or
something
like
that,
okay,
so
I
I,
my
preference
would
be.
Is
that
there's
a
Code
modification
so
that
staff
isn't
right,
doesn't
have
that
discretion?
K
I
H
I
As
I
recall
so
and
then
and
I've
been
asking
Wendy
whether
she
and
her
colleagues
would
be
available
to
help
provide
some
educational
information
that
we
could
provide
to
our
residents
to
promote
this
alternative
to
just
not
mowing
your
front
lawn.
K
And
I
believe
that
we
already
do
some
of
that
through
the
Parks
and
Recreation
division
through
the
Ecology
Center
I
know
that
we
we
had
in
our
storm
water
control.
We
encourage
people
to
put
in
Rain
Gardens
and
had
and
have
on
our
website
whole
list
of
types
of
vegetation
that
you
could
plant.
We
worked
with
Nature's
perspective,
I'm
going
to
say
several
years
ago
now
to
try
to
promote
that,
and
they
were
giving
discount
prices
for
people
that
want
to
participate
in
that.
K
A
And
just
unclear
councilman
Revell,
your
point
is,
is
your
suggestion
would
be
a
situation
where
everyone
is
is
automatically
opted
into
the
program
by
not
enforcing
during
those
times,
as
opposed
to
having
someone
call
in
to
say:
hey
I
want
to
participate,
and
then
they
get
the
either
whether
they
get
the
yard
signed
or
not.
They
have
to
call
in
and
say
they're
participating
in
order,
not
right.
I
I
By
Property
Standards
yeah,
basically,
because
that
way
it
it,
it
doesn't
suggest
to
our
residents
that
we're
really
promoting
not
mowing
their
lawn.
What
we're
promoting
is
these
other
types
of
ways
to
have
a
more
natural
garden
to
that
truly
does
a
much
better
job
of
of
supporting
our
pollinators.
Okay,
thank.
A
I'll,
let's
go
councilmember
Harris,
then
council,
member
Reed
and
then
council
member
just.
J
Wanted
to
say
that
I
appreciated
the
recommendations
by
staff.
I
think
it
makes
sense.
I
don't
want
us.
I
want
us
to
be
careful
with.
We
won't
do
it
here
and
there,
because
then
that
becomes
discriminatory
on
who's
telling
on
who
and
with
the
signs.
Then
it
is
an
intentional
program
where
we're
saying
this
is
what
it
is,
and
people
don't
get
lazy.
J
So
I
did
like
the
memo
that
the
staff
created
and
I
think
it
makes
the
most
sense
I
get
the
opting.
You
know
we
don't
want
to
make
it
a
program,
but
we
want
to
be
intentional
about
the
work
that
we
do
and
that
people
understand.
This
is
an
intentional
set
of
circumstances
happening
right
here,
not
just
oh
he's
not
Mowing
and
they're,
not
mowing
so
I'm
not
going
to
mow
so
I
liked.
It.
F
I
appreciate
this
referral.
I
remember
around
that
time,
councilmember,
Kelly
and
I
think
on
APW
we're
pushing
to
hold
off
on
mowing
the
city's
property
and
director
Stone
back
highlighted
the
headache
that
could
come
from
that
and
so
I
understand
some
of
the
Provisions
to
leave
the
city
out
of
it
in
some
regard.
I
do
wonder
what
the
concerns
are.
Regarding
you
know
the
Optics
of
the
city
condoning
this
and
I
think.
F
Maybe
we
should
move
away
from
you
know
the
term
nomome
is
really
easy
to
remember
and
it's
it's
nice,
it's
catchy,
but
really
I.
Think
what
we're
really
talking
about
here
is
natural
landscapes,
and
maybe
we
should
move
away
from
the
Nomo
May
and
really,
and
we
should
encourage
people
to
create
Lawns
that
they
don't
have
to
mow
either
in
May
or
June
or
ever
because
they're,
creating
these
more
natural
landscapes
and
so
I
wonder
how
we
can
how
we
can
craft
this
in
a
way
that
we
can
full.
F
You
know
with
full
measure
and
full
throated
with
a
full-throated
measure,
support
this
and
say
yes,
this
is
something
the
city
condones.
We
want
you
to
do
x,
y
z,
and
if
you
do
x
y
z,
you
will
not
get
a
a
ticket
for
not
you
know,
mowing
your
lawn,
and
so
maybe
XYZ
you
have
you
know
certain
percentage
of
your
lawn
is
covered
with
you
know,
natural
planting
and
I'm
just
spouting
stuff
off
I.
F
Think
the
the
you
know,
the
folks
that
are
much
smarter
on
this
subject
than
I
am
Wendy
and
the
team
and
others
can
come
up
with
some
kind
of
something
some
formula
or
whatever,
to
say
that
if
you're
doing
this,
you
will
not
be
required
to
mow
and
it's
something
that
we
can.
You
know
staff
can
easily
verify
on
whether
it's
a
a
a
lawn
sign
or
whatever
it
is.
F
G
Yeah
I
just
want
to
highlight:
I've
talked
to
Public
Works
staff
and
they're
actually
working
on
a
strategic,
green
spaces
plan,
and
you
know
they
have
a
lot
of
challenges
because
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
sports.
Ing
events
happen
in
our
parks
and
yet
there's
places
where
people
want
to
see
more
native
habitat
and
and
Native
plantings.
G
They
are
working
on
a
plan
to
at
what
to
do
with
the
native
plantings
and
I've
had
some
really
good
conversations
with
the
arborists
and
the
staff
there
and
as
someone
who
participated
in
Nomo
may,
I
do
think
it's
probably,
but
if
you
actually
don't
mow
all
through
May,
your
lawn
does
look
a
little
bit.
G
Ragged
I
do
like
the
idea
of
maybe
cutting
it
off
at
halfway
through
May,
but
you
know
that's
something
that
I
think
we
will
probably
see
more
naturalization
in
our
public
green
spaces
but
as
it
and
I
know,
they're
being
very
thoughtful
as
to
where
to
do
that.
So
I
just
wanted
to
add
that.
K
And
on
that
matter,
we
have
engaged
with
the
consultant
on
that.
We
are
just
really
at
the
kickoff
on
that
and
setting
up
the
Satchel
for
when
we
will
determining
what
all
groups
we
want
to
meet
with,
with
and
obviously
the
environment
board,
and
when
you
would
be
people
that
we
would
plan
to
meet
with.
Ultimately,
the
parks
and
rec
department
or
I'm.
Sorry,
the
parks
and
rec
board
would
be
the
board
that
we
will
seek
approval
of
before
we
bring
it
to
the
city
council.
K
But
we
do
want
to
get
the
the
thoughts
and
comments
from
all
the
other
commissions
and
boards
that
that
have
some
tied
to
this.
So
definitely
we
will
be
meeting
and
giving
the
environment
board
some
comments
and
opportunity
to
talk
about
the
natural
areas
that
we're
looking
forward
to.
I
A
So
I
did
have
a
few
things
that
I
think
will
help.
So
so
one
I
think
is
it.
Is
it
kind
of
this
Auto
opt-in
or
this
self-initiated?
Opt-In
is
an
important
question.
We
need
to
answer.
It
seems
like
councilmember
Harris.
You
were
the
self-initiated
that
someone
actually
has
should
have
to
you
know
to
reach
out
and
opt
into
the
program.
I
think
councilman
Reed.
It
seems.
A
Councilman
Ravel
seems
like
you,
wanted
the
auto,
opt-in
and
I.
Don't
know
if
we
heard
from
council
member
headed
College
about
that.
But
I
feel
like
that's
an
important
component
to
this,
that
we
could
either
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong.
A
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
will
be
helpful
to
staff,
because
there's
an
auto
opt-in
where
everybody
is
is
opted
in
and
then
you
just
don't
enforce
the
the
weed
ordinance
during
that
time
and
and
that's
it
or
there's
no
we're
still
enforcing,
except
for
people
who
have
opted
in
and
you
know
we
can
talk
about
the
yard
sign.
But
at
the
very
least,
they've
opted
into
the
program.
Well,.
A
F
Yeah
it
to
me
the
third
option-
and
maybe
this
is
just
a
separate
referral
that
I'm
happy
to
make.
But
you
know
I
think
what
I'm
hearing
here
is
that
what
we
really
aren't
really
looking
to
move
toward
a
normal
May,
we're
looking
to
move
towards
something
more
thoughtful,
and
it
seems
like
that.
More
thoughtful
approach
is
to
instead
of
encouraging
folks
to
not
maintain
their
properties
during
the
month
of
May
or
even
for
the
first
two
weeks
of
may.
F
We
would
like
to
encourage
folks
to
maintain
their
properties
in
an
alternative
fashion,
that
is,
that
includes
more
native
plantings
in
a
more
natural
landscape
and
that's
what
I
think
we
seem
to
be
really
wanting
to
move
toward.
K
K
Anybody
can
convert
I,
don't
think
it's
a
requirement
that
you
have
to
have
a
turf
grass
lawn
anybody
can
put
into
flowers
in
the
gardens
that
they
want
on
their
own
property
at
any
time.
I.
Don't
even
don't
quote
me
on
this,
but
I.
Don't
think
you
need
a
permit
to
do
that
either.
So
you
can
have
a
garden
with
flowers
and
in
a
natural
area
that
is
permissible
without
a
permit.
As
far
as
I
understand,
I
think
what
councilmember
in.
A
F
D
F
A
D
Believe
there
is
a
a
permit
that
someone
actually
has
to
get
I.
Think
that's
through,
isn't.
K
K
That's
true
and
that's
what
I
was
saying
on
their
own
property.
It
becomes
somewhat
of
a
challenge
if
they
want
to
do
it
in
the
Parkway
and
then
a
permit
is
required
and
then
there's
also
concerns
with
sight
line.
You
know,
if
you
buy
a
corner,
we
don't
want
you
to
grow,
something
that's
going
to
be
too
tall.
That
would
prohibit
the
sight
line
of
a
car
coming
through
an
intersection,
or
something
like
that.
So
we
were
unsuccessful
in
trying
to
revise
an
ordinance,
but
there
isn't
existing
ordinance.
K
That
already
has
the
a
lot
of
those
requirements
in
there
we're
trying
to
make
it
clear.
We
were
unsuccessful
on
a
previous
attempt
to
do
that.
So,
but
yes,
I,
I,
still
don't
know
where
the
city
I
agree.
We
want
to
promote
you.
I
A
What
we
really
want-
and
he
he
rise,
some
questions
that
I
have
but
really
I
think,
no
matter
what
we're
really
down
to
two
options,
because
the
really
the
the
point
being
that
no
matter
what
we
choose
it
still
is
itself
initiated.
Is
it
auto
opt-in,
so
I
think
I'm
still
back
at
the
same
place,
even
if
the
program
ends
up
being
I.
K
Think
a
natural
landscape.
We
we
encourage
natural
landscapes,
regardless
of
whether
we
decide
to
allow
people
to
let
their
Turf
Lawn
grow
until
the
second
week
of
May
or
whatever
it
is,
and
how
do
we
allow
them
to
do
that?
I
think
that's
the
question
that
you
originally
asked
and
I'm
not
sure
that
I
have
an
answer
for
yet
correct.
A
Yeah,
because
what
if
counselor
reads
someone
does
not
want,
you
know
they
want
to
participate
in
the
program
as
we're
discussing
it
today,
but
they
don't
necessarily
want
to.
You
know
the
natural
landscape
thing
and
to
have
to
manage
and
maintain
that
I
think
we'll
probably
still
have
people
that
want
to
participate
in
a
no
more
Lomo
May,
and
so
the
question
Still
Remains.
Do
they
do
they
need
to
opt
into
that
or
are
they
Auto
opted
in
councilmember
and
then
I
want
to
revisit
this
question.
G
Yeah
I
think
Dave
touched
on
the
the
parkway
planting
as
someone
who
has
kind
of
a
naturalized
lawn
myself,
I
applied
for
the
permit,
it's
pretty
straightforward
as
far
as
like
the
sight
lines
and
that's
you
know
size
of
the
the
plantings
as
much
as
we'd
like
to
encourage.
It
is
really
hard
to
give
people
Direction,
because
every
yard
is
different
and
it's
really
hard
to
say
like
just
do
this,
because
it's
not
going
to
work
on
all
the
different
Landscapes
with
the
soil
types
and
shade
and
Sun
coverage.
G
So
they're
like
what
it's
there's,
a
million
moving
Parts
in
this
I
would
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't
know
if
I
want
to
throw
this
out
like
if
an
outside
organization
maybe
can
provide
the
signs
and
not
so
that
maybe
we're
not
implicitly
officially
saying
this
is
in
City
of
Evanston
Nomo
sign.
That's
another
possibility.
I
I'd
be
okay
personally,
with
either
option
either
the
opt-in
or
the
implicit
opt-in.
A
Way
and
trust
me
I'll,
get
you
your
direction,
we'll
we're
going
to
ultimately
have
to
call
I
think
a
question
on
this
particular
issue,
but
but
before
that,
councilman
was
that,
did
you
apply
for
the
parkway
or
for
your
yard?
I
just
want
to
be
cool
to
Parkway
for.
G
F
Yeah
I,
I,
I
I
think.
A
In
your
your
you're
breaking
up
a.
F
Yes,
okay,
I
think
it
makes
sense
for
a
you
know
a
universal
option,
and
so
maybe
this
is
a
minor
tweak
chart
code
that
you
know.
You
know
that
before
you
know,
May
15th
or
whatever
date
we
go
with,
that.
Your
graphs
may
not
exceed
a
height
of
you,
know,
16
inches
or
whatever.
It
is
I'm
just
throwing
some
random
number
out
there.
But
you
know
that
way.
F
We
make
it
so
people
can
go
part
of
May
without
mowing
we
increase
the
number
of
inches
that
folks
are
allowed
to,
let
their
lawn
go
to
prior
to
you
know,
May
15th
or
whatever
date
we
choose
and
that's
the
way
that
we
allow
essentially
everyone's
universally
opt-in
to
this,
and
then
we
can
allow
cge
or
some
other
group
on
the
outside
to
promote
the
fact
that
folks
are
actually
participating
in
the
Nomo
may,
but
with
that,
I
will
say
that
I
still
maintain
I
think
our
real
goal
isn't
for
folks
not
to
maintain
their
yards.
A
A
That
by
not
mowing
you
you're
achieving
that
and
I
think
in
one
one
of
the
ways
that
I
think
I
heard
councilman
Revell
described
earlier
is
by
providing
these
the
dandelions
and
other
plant
species
to
pollinate
and
so
I
think
that's!
The
argument
is
that
by
not
mowing
it,
that
is
a
more
ecologically.
I
Friendly
way,
yeah,
the
argument
for
not
mowing
for
no
mom
may
is
to
you
know
the
dandelions
and
those
early
spring
plants
do
provide
some
some
food
for
pollinators.
But
in
fact,
and
that's
apparently
true
in
in
England,
but
not
so
true
in
the
U.S,
where
so
so
it.
It
said
it
gives
people
a
false
sense
of
comfort
that
they're
doing
something
for
pollinators
by
just
not
mowing
their
lawn,
but
in
fact,
they're
only
doing
a
little
bit
better
than
mowing
their
lawn.
I
A
A
The
program
yeah
I
guess
we
got
to
figure
out
that
part
because
there's
there's
not
mowing
which
helps
to
a
small
degree,
but
it
helps
a
little
bit.
But
then
there's
also
I
hear
there's
the
concern
about
how
neighbors
will
kind
of
right
how
they
will
exactly
whether
or
not
they'll
accept
it
or
not.
But
then
that's
more
so
about
like
manicure
and
management
of
your
yard,
which
is
different
than
what
is.
I
Is
I
mean
a
number
of
residents
did
not
mow
their
lawns
last
May
and
and
I
don't
believe
we
had
any
complaints
yeah
so.
A
So
councilmember
read
to
go
back
to
your
boy.
It
sounds
like
you're
now
in
the
in
the
in
the
opt-in
or
the
auto
opt-in.
A
Yeah
can
someone
please
make
a
and
emotion
on.
I
A
I
mean
I
would,
if
it's,
if
we're
allowed
Council
Johnson
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
on
this
I
think
councilman,
Reed
I've
heard
you
even
say
in
the
past
that
we
need
to
start
yeah.
F
F
I
A
I
I,
don't
have
the
existing
wheat
ordinance
ordinance
in
front
of
me,
I
guess.
I
would
just
ask
staff
to
develop
an
ordinance,
an
amendment
to
our
I
guess,
weed
ordinance
that
allows
people
to
not
mow
their
their
lawn
until
until
May
15th.
A
A
And
then
we
can
have
a
discussion.
J
Yeah,
sorry
yeah,
you
could
yeah
I'm
just
having
a
side
talk
so
I'm
just
saying
the
group
that
asked
for
it
is
now
kind
of
pulling
back
for
on
it.
So
I'm
just
trying
to
be
clear
on
what
we're
doing
before
I
make
a
vote.
A
I
I
I
F
And
point
of
information
for
Council
Johnson
and
for
the
whole
group
I've
seen
other
communities
with
other
issues,
far
less
important
than
you
know,
overgrown
lawn
citations,
past
resolutions
that
you
know
say
Hey.
You
know
whether
it's
law,
you
know
the
traditional
law
enforcement
or
other
City
staff
law
enforcement,
such
as
Property
Standards,
to
say,
hey.
We
would
like
this.
You
know
for
in
this
case
the
weed
ordinance
to
be
your
lowest
enforcement
priority
prior
to
Mark,
May,
15th
or
whatever.
F
Instead
of
changing
the
ordinance,
could
we
Mari
pass
it
I
mean
I'm.
Sorry,
Council
Johnson
pass
an
ordinance
resolution
that
said:
hey
our
lowest
priority
for
enforcement,
making
with
the
wheat
ordinance
our
lowest
priority
for
for
Property
Standards
enforcement
prior
to
a
certain
date.
E
I'm
not
sure
that
that
one
would
have
the
effect
that
you
want
and
two
would
be
fair
to
ask
of
our
Code
Enforcement
Officers,
because,
depending
on
what
they
are
addressing
at
the
time,
lowest,
priority
begins
to
look
different
depending
on
what
day
of
the
week,
it
is,
depending
on
the
month,
depending
on
a
whole
set
of
circumstances.
So
I
think
that
there's
definitely
room
to
accomplish
what
it
is
that
you're
trying
to
accomplish,
perhaps
by
being
a
little
bit
more
creative.
E
So
perhaps
in
the
ordinance
we
make
a
carve
out
for
certain
weeks
of
the
of
May,
and
so
that
way
it
does
not
change
the
ordinance
indefinitely.
It
just
changes
the
ordinance
for
a
certain
period
of
time,
so
there's
ways
to
accomplish
what
it
is
that
you
want
to
accomplish,
but
I
don't
think
making
it
something.
So
subjective
is
fair
to
staff.
A
Or
potentially
to
community
members,
because
I
see
people
are
gonna,
a
lot
of
these
complaints
are
are
driven
by
citizen
complaints
or
Community
member
complaints
and,
and
they
expect
enforcement,
you
know
and
not
for
it
to
be
a
low
priority,
but
for
it
to
be
enforced
in
the
way
the
rest
of
the
code
is
so
I
think
just
a
hard
and
fast,
you
know
we're
we're
allowing
it
or
whatever
we're
going
to
call
it
during
these
periods
is
probably
a
better
better
way
to
go.
We
do
we.
A
We
there
is
something
I'm
gonna
tell
you
what's
been,
probably
moving
a
second
we're
in
discussion
of
that
now.
I
just
wanted
to
remind
everybody
I'm
going
to
call
the
question
if
there
are
no
other
comments
or
questions
or
councilman
reveal.
I
I
I
H
A
If
everybody
is
clear
on
the
restated
motion,
we'll
call
a
question.
A
G
A
Don't
tell
anybody
about
that,
okay,
so,
okay,
so
that's
done
and
then
now
so
I
guess
that
is
it's
not.
I
I
So
we're
good,
so
the
memo
made
some
talked
about
recommendations
to
staff
that
talked
about
reducing
mowing
frequency
and
leaving
Lomo
and
Nomo
areas
in
our
green
spaces,
and
so
I
was
just
interested
and
I
asked
Stephen
Walker
if
he
would
be
available
just
to
say
sort
of
what
staff
where,
where
is
Staff.
In
terms
of
this,
these
kinds
of
yeah.
A
So
if
Mr
Walker
is
available,
I'll
just
read
through
this
for
everybody
here,
but
also,
if
any
community
members
are
watching,
so
they
were
recommendations,
environment
board,
provided
recommendations
to
City
staff
and
then
recommendations
to
to
the
city.
One
was
reduce
mowing
frequency
in
July
and
August
when
growth
slows,
Crews
might
alternate
mowing
with
mulching
and
watering
trees,
number
two
expand:
Lomo
and
Nomo
green
zones
number
three
eradicate:
Buckthorn,
Asian,
Honeysuckle
and
other
non-native
invasive
plants
on
public
lands,
public
lands.
A
Management,
including
as
possible,
creating
and
posting
signage
for
use
on
public
land,
an
example
is
in
the
Lorraine
Morton
Civic,
Center,
habitat
garden
and
then
the
last
one
is
include
representatives
of
the
environment
board
and
Natural
Area
stewards
and
development
of
the
recently
commissioned
parks
and
green
space
strategic
plan,
so
Mr
Walker,
if
you're
with
us,
if
you
could
provide
any
comments
on
those
recommendations.
Thank
you.
N
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
sir
okay?
Yes,
this
is
definitely
something
that
staff
can
look
into.
We
currently
do
something
very
similar
to
all
of
these
recommendations,
but
as
Deputy
city
manager,
stoneback
mentioned,
I
would
definitely
would
like
to
wait
for
a
be
Consulting
to
get
completed
before
we
make
any
other
decisions.
But
I
am
completely
in
open
to
working
with
Miss
Pollock
to
work
on
any
of
those
recommendations
to
move
forward.
So.
K
So,
and
and
I
had
discussions
with
supervisor
Walker
previously
that
we
already
are
reducing
our
mowing
in
July
and
August.
The
grass
is
not
growing,
we're
not
out
there
cutting
it,
and
we
do
have
a
long
list
of
projects
that
we
want
to
get
to,
including
mulching
and
watering
trees.
So
we
do
expand
that
in
those
months
we
are
still
working
on
the
Lomo
and
Nomo
grass
zones.
K
We
are
not
very
satisfied
with
what
was
put
out,
Robert
Crown,
and
so
we're
still
trying
to
figure
that
out
and
and
find
the
right
materials
to
move
forward
with
that,
but
where
we
would
Place
those
again
would
be
a
result
of
the
study.
That's
currently
moving,
and
we
don't
think
we'll
have
the
the
end
of
that
study.
The
final
report
on
that
study
until
the
end
of
the
year,
more
or
less
so.
This
would
be
something
that
we
would
look
to
more
to
address
in
2024.
K
eradicating
the
Buckthorn.
An
Asian
honeysuckle
is
a
challenge
for
where
that
is
mostly
grown
as
long,
the
North
Shore
canal,
and
particularly
along
the
banks
and
the
North
Shore
Canal,
so
to
remove.
That
is
one
thing,
but
you
have
to
replace
it
right
away
as
well
to
prevent
erosion,
and
we
feel
that
it
that
would
be
a
very
expensive
Endeavor
for
the
city
to
undertake
based
on
the
amount
Buckthorn
that's
out
there.
It
could
be
millions
of
dollars
and
where
the
Buckthorn
is
invasive
and
dominating
the
tree
species
in
that
particular
area.
K
It's
not
a
problem,
that's
dominating
the
tree
species
throughout
the
City
of
Evanston,
and
so,
if
we
add
it
as
a
as
a
weed
in
our
ordinance
and
then
there's
an
expectation
that
the
city
remove
all
these
Weeds
on
public
property,
that
could
be
a
very
expensive
Endeavor
to
try
to
undertake.
K
So
if
that's,
what
the
desire
of
the
city
council
is
that's
what
we
will
do
just
realize
that
there
is
a
significant
dollar
amount
associated
with
removing
the
Buckthorn
and
replacing
it
with
new
vegetation
that
would
stabilize
the
Canal
bank
and
prevent
it
from
eroding.
So
that
is
one
consideration
if
we
want
to
make
it
something
that
we
only
do
on
private
property,
that
wouldn't
be
Equitable
and
it
would
be
a
challenge
I
think
to
to
try
to
enforce.
You
can't
have
this
buckthorne
on
your
own
property,
but
the
city's
allowing
it
over
here.
K
So
again,
it's
anything
can
be
done
it
just.
We
want
to
caution
you
about
the
cost
of
this
proposed
code
modification,
because
it
is
along
the
Canal
bank.
It
would
be
expensive
to
remove
because
of
the
steepness
of
the
Canal
bank
and
the
safety
issues
that
you
would
have
to
employ
and
then
putting
new
plant
material
back
down
there
to
stabilize
the
bank
is
our
concern
and
we
feel
it
could
be
millions
of
dollars
to
try
to
undertake
that
program.
K
So
we
might
want
to
start
experimentally,
doing
it
in
one
location,
for
a
certain
distance
and
and
trying
to
understand
what
the
cost
and
the
econ
and
the
consequences
of
doing
this
type
of
work
and
I
think
we're
willing
to
try
to
do
that
in
a
in
a
small
area.
We
don't
have
funding
particularly
this
year
to
do
this,
so
we
could
look
at
that
and
try
to
figure
out
a
cost
put
in
the
2024
budget
and
then
come
back
to
to
the
city
council
with
a
report
on
our
test
zone
area.
K
If
you
will
our
pilot
area
and
let
you
know
what
the
cost
was
and
and
how
that
how
successful
it
was.
So
that's
what
staff
to
recommendation
would
be,
rather
than
trying
to
pass
and
modify
the
city
code
to
call
that
a
weed
right
now
so
and
then
on
their
fifth
bullet.
As
indicated
earlier,
we
do
plan
to
include
the
environment
board
and
the
natural
Irish
stewards
in
the
development
of
our
Parks
plant.
K
That
again
is
just
starting
up
we'll
set
meetings
with
them
and
present
their
input
in
the
final
report
that
we
won't
expect
until
December
of
23
or
November
December
area.
So.
I
Oh
well,
yeah
I,
appreciate
all
the
input
from
staff
and
very
appreciate
Mr
walker
hanging
in
there
until
we
got
to
this
part
of
the
agenda.
Well,
I
I
mean
there's
so
many
things
that
we
could
do
and
should
do
in
terms
of
our
landscaping
and
our
environment
and
our
and
I
think
we
need,
and
they
all
cost
money
and
I
I
rather
have
us
have
priorities.
I
K
And
properly
growing,
our
true
Canon.
I
I
Our
existing
right
that
too,
all
of
that
yeah
and
and
I,
did
learn
today
from
Wendy
Pollock
that
in
fact,
a
lot
of
homeowners
have
happily
have
Buckthorn
Hedges
on
their
property.
So
if
we
suddenly
made
it
a
weed,
we
could
be
in
enforcement
difficulties.
So
what
we
and
I'm
really
glad
to
hear
that
you
know
the
environment
board
will
be
heavily
involved
and
consulted
in
terms
of
the
of
the
Strategic
plan
that
they
have.
I
You
know
really
wonderful
expertise
and
will
have
a
lot
to
contribute
to
that
plan.
Right.
H
C
K
A
Miss
Pollock,
if
you're
still
with
us,
I
just
I,
wanted
to
allow
you
an
opportunity
to
provide
any
last
comments
that
you
may
have
on.
After
hearing
from
City
Sav.
L
Sure
thank
you.
Yeah
and
I
they're,
absolutely
right,
they're
doing
a
lot
already
to
move
in
this
direction
of
reduced,
Mowing
and
and
and
focusing
on
trees.
I
I
do
just
want
to
point
out
there.
L
There
actually
have
been
excellent
Pilots
of
removing
Buck
Buckthorn
and
replacing
it
along
the
North
Shore
channel
that
in
the
Arboretum
over
the
last
several
years,
thanks
partly
to
Grants
that
community
members
worked
with
City
staff
to
get
we've
removed,
most
of
the
large
bucks
or
most
of
bookstore
and
all
along
a
substantial
portion
and
replaced
it
with
native
plants.
So
we
do
have
know
what
that
costs
the
same
and
Canal
Shores
in
Harvard
park.
There
are
already
efforts
and
I'll
just
say:
community
members
love
doing
that
kind
of
volunteer
work.
L
So
there
are
a
lot
of
people
out
there
who
will
do
it
for
free.
So
if
we
we
get
to
the
point
where
we
want
to
do
estimates
of
what
it
would
cost
to
expand
at
work,
we
have.
We
do
have
some
basis
for
doing
that
already,
but
yeah
it
all.
It
sounds
good
and
I
totally
agree
about
focusing
on
making
sure
the
trees
are
maintained
and
and
grow
to
be
big
and
I.
Think
we
can
do
a
lot.
L
A
I
mean,
and
if
there's
support
I
certainly
would
because
Miss
Pollock
mentioned
took
it
where
I
was
going
to
take
it.
So
there's
you
know
several
the
canal
kind
of
follows
along
the
Fifth
Ward
on
on
several
parts
and
I
do
think.
A
If
we
continue
to
pay
attention
to
the
the
Buckthorn
and
honeysuckle
issue
within
the
along
the
the
channel
that
we
can
not
only
create
a
better
space
for
other
animals,
but
also
make
it
potentially
more
walkable
and
which
has
a
benefit
to
community
members
and
I
I
I
think
we
can
do
so
much
more
along
the
channel
if
we
continue
to
pay
attention
to
it
and
and
maintain
it
and
preserve
it
in
a
way
that
I
have
seen
volunteers
doing
both
sides
of
the
of
the
channel.
A
So
since
we,
since
we
may
already
have
the
information
we
need
to
to
come
up
with
those
cost
estimates,
you
know
as
long
as
there's
no
extra
cost
for
the
city.
I
would
love
at
the
next
Human
Services
committee
meeting
to
at
least
come
back
with
those
estimates
again
as
long
as
there's
no
cost
to
the
city
in
terms
of
time
or
money
and
then
councilmember
Harris.
Sorry
about
that.
J
So
I
just
took
a
nature
walk
with
commissioner
Justina
Marita
and
we
learned
about
the
buckthorne
and
the
honeysuckle
actually
on
the
first
and
there's
other
groups
out
there
that
are
available
and
want
to
help
get
rid
of
the
Buckthorn.
So
if
we
can
investigate
any
of
that,
I
think
on
a
voluntary
status
and
get
the
community
and
involved
and
engaged
in
that
I
think
they'd
be
more
than
willing.
A
Covered
everything
was
there
anything
else,
councilmember
Prevail,
any
other
recommendations
from
the
environment
board.
Okay,
last
thing:
Cara
Pratt
I,
never
get
the
title
right.
I
know
it's
sustainability,
resiliency
now
manager
now
right
right
with,
is
it
manager
now
I
think
it's
manager.
Now,
since
we
added
the
position
so
I
just
I
wanted
to
hear
from
you.
If,
if
you
have
any
comments
about
I
wish,
I
would
have
did
this
earlier.
A
O
O
So
if
we
have
a
storm
water
master
plan
that
includes
a
stormwater
utility,
then
ideally,
projects
like
promoting
native
planting
on
private
property
could
help
offset
any
costs
that
anyone
would
pay
for
a
stormwater
fee.
That's
how
a
lot
of
communities
operate,
so
I
dream
of
a
feature
like
that
and
I
think
that
that
the
stormwater
Master
planning
process
is
a
big
part
of
naturalizing
yards
as
well.
Beautiful.
A
Thank
you
thanks.
Okay,
if
there's
nothing
else,
seeing
no
more
items
before
us.
The
meeting
is
adjourned
and
the
next
Human
Services
committee
meeting
will
be
February.