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A
A
Okay?
The
first
thing
on
our
agenda
tonight
is
the
township
of
evanston
and
we
have
township
assessor
bonnie
wilson
in
her
report.
B
I
I
realized
that
I
did
not
announce
we
haven't.
We
did
not
have
a
january
meeting,
so
I
just
want
to
remind
all
seniors
that
we
are
still
accepting
applications
for
the
senior
freeze
and
the
senior
exemptions.
The
deadline
was
scheduled
to
be
february
the
5th.
However,
the
cook
county
assessor's
office
will
be
extending
the
deadline.
B
I
do
not
have
the
exact
date,
but
they
promised
me
that
they're
going
to
extend
that
deadline
and
on
tuesday
february
the
11th,
the
cook
county,
assessor's
office
county
commissioner
larry
sufferden's
office
in
my
office
will
be
at
the
levy
center,
helping
seniors
with
their
exemptions
during
the
lunch
hour
from
11
to
1
o'clock.
So
in
case
you
can't
come
to
the
assessor's
office,
you
can
come
to
the
levy
center.
B
I
want
to
remind
them
that
every
senior
over
65
can
apply
for
a
senior
exemption.
They
have
to
do
it
every
year,
but
only
seniors
over
65,
whose
household
income
is
less
than
55
000
can
apply
for
a
senior
freeze
and
do
not
forget
the
evanston
township
office
is
now
at
the
civic
center.
On
the
first
floor,
next
to
the
city
clerk's
office,
our
new
phone
number
is
847-448-8136.
B
And
I'm
going
to
ask
everyone
to
make
an
appointment
to
come
in.
I
also
want
to
talk
about
the
first
installment
tax
bill,
which
is
due
march.
The
4th
they
arrived
in
everybody's
mailboxes,
the
end
of
january
property.
Taxes
are
paid
into
installments.
The
first
installment
is
55
of
the
total
tax
bill
for
the
previous
year
and
will
be
due
on
march.
The
4th
taxpayers
should
note
that
the
first
installment
tax
bills
will
not
reflect
homeowners,
seniors
or
other
exemptions,
nor
will
they
reflect
reflect
successful,
assess
assessment,
appeals
that
were
filed
for
tax
year
2013..
B
If
they
do
an
overpayment
of
property
taxes
may
result
property
owners
who
do
not
have
mortgage
companies
paying
their
taxes,
can
make
tax
payments
in
person
by
mail
or
online
at
the
cook
county
treasurer's
website,
that's
cook,
county
treasurer.com
in
per
in
person,
payments
are
accepted
at
the
cook
county,
treasurer's
office,
downtown
chicago
at
118,
north
clark
or
at
any
chase
bank
in
the
chicago
area.
Some
of
the
chase
branches
most
convenient
in
evanston
township
residents
are
located
at
1603,
orrington,
635,
chicago
avenue
and
901
grove
in
evanston.
A
Thank
you
assessor
wilson.
The
next
on
our
agenda.
A
Will
be
the
bills
for
the
township?
Is
there
a
motion
to
accept
the
monthly
bills
for
the
township
move?
Acceptance,
it's
been
moved,
as
is
their
second.
It's
been
moved
in.
Second,
all
in
favor
all
right.
Many
opposed.
A
A
We
have
a
number
of
speakers
and
I'm
going
to
make
a
request
that
those
of
you
who
are
all
from
the
same
organization,
if
you're
going
to
say
similar
the
same
thing.
Maybe
we
could
get
spokespeople
because
we
have
three
pages
of
folks,
so
you'll
be
here
quite
a
long
time.
We
have
a
few
presentations
that
we're
going
to
hear.
I
promise
you
that
we've
all
read
all
of
the
information,
we're
eager
to
hear
what
you
have
to
say,
but
when
it's
said
over
and
over
again,
it
gets
lost.
A
So
I
just
want
to
say
that
to
you
in
the
interest
of
time,
your
time
and
ours
that
if
you
can
maybe
let
someone
be
a
spokesperson
for
your
group-
it
would
be
helpful.
Okay,
so
beginning
with
harley
clark,
we
have
first
is
linda
beck,
he's
the
first
speaker.
C
A
C
C
C
The
iff
report
concludes
that
the
facility
at
2603,
sheridan
road,
including
the
coach
house,
would
be
inadequate
for
the
expanded
community
arts
program
that
the
evanston
arts
center
aims
to
develop
and
implement
a
look
at
some
of
the
exciting
arts
program
and
unique
arts
programming
that
is
not
not
offered
anywhere
in
this
region
can
be
found
in
the
second
document.
That's
in
your
packets
and
that's
our
plan
for
the
evanston
arts,
center's,
creative
regeneration.
C
I
think,
in
the
middle
of
that
packet,
you'll
see
a
list
of
programs
like,
for
instance,
maker
labs,
diy
maker
labs,
with
3d
printers
laser
cutters
die
cutters,
a
woodworking
studio,
artist
in
residence
program,
a
design
department
and
something
that
we
already
have
and
we're
waiting
to
renovate,
which
is
a
van
that
was
donated
to
us.
It's
a
mobile
art
unit
that
we're
going
to
call
art
van
gogh.
C
So
in
light
of
the
fact
that
what
the
art
center
wants
to
provide
for
this
community
will
not
be
possible
within
the
footprint
and
configuration
of
the
building
at
2603
sheridan
road,
the
evanston
arts
center
board
of
trustees
has
decided
that
the
total
renovation
project
costs
of
over
five
million
dollars
on
this
building
would
simply
not
make
sense.
C
C
The
evanston
arts
center
would
be
allowed
to
remain
in
the
2603
sheridan
road
building
for
a
period
of
up
to
two
years,
beginning
time
period
from
january,
1
2014.,
the
evanston
arts
center
would
agree
to
pay
the
hundred
and
one
hundred
and
eleven
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
that
was
identified
in
the
immediate
year,
one
section
for
building
code,
life,
safety
and
accessibility
improvements,
and
that's
in
your
iff
document.
That's
in
your
packet.
C
C
Why
two
years,
why
not?
240
days,
expert
advisors,
we've
worked
with
over
the
last
few
years
and
they
include
architects,
commercial,
real
estate
brokers,
developers,
contractors,
builders
and
other
leaders
in
the
arts
field.
Concur
that
it
will
take
at
least
two
years
to
find
secure,
renovate
and
move
to
another
building,
we're
talking
about
huge
art
studios
with
printing
presses
welding
materials.
This
is
not
an
easy
move.
We
spent
three
years
trying
to
find
a
building.
We've
come
close,
but
we
haven't
nailed
it.
Yet.
Eight
months
is
just
simply
not
enough
time.
C
C
None
of
us
can
go
back,
17
or
18
years
to
when
this
lease
and
its
provisions
were
first
made.
What
we
can
do
is
deal
with
where
we
are
now
the
here
and
now
and
that's
what
we
want
to
do
if
we're
allowed
to
stay
for
two
years
and
I
sure
hope
we
are
because
we
have
an
amazing
art
center
with
amazing
programming,
we
will
begin
to
do
some
of
these
safety
code
improvements.
C
C
You
five
thank
you
so
much.
I
will.
I
have
many
examples
of
people
who
have
benefited
from
the
opportunities
we
offer
a
vote
for
240
days
as
a
vote
for
discontinuing
opportunities
like
these.
The
evanston
arts
center
employs
over
a
hundred
people.
They
include
teaching
artists
who
are
supporting
families
and
careers.
Parents.
Putting
children
through
college
and
seniors
who
can't
afford
to
retire
240
days
would
put
people
out
of
work.
C
C
We
put
out
an
online
petition
friday
night
in
24
hours.
We
had
over
a
thousand
petitions
signed
before
we
came
here
this
evening.
We
have
seventeen
hundred.
I
hope
you
read
the
comments.
I'd
be
happy
to
send
them
to
you.
Please
help
us
save
this.
Evanston
arts
center
allow
us
two
more
years
to
move
out
properly
and
continue
to
serve
this
community
in
even
more
more
vibrant
ways.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
your
time.
E
Hi,
thank
you
so
much.
Madam
chairman
and
honorable
members
of
the
committee
for
allowing
me
to
speak
tonight.
My
name
is
linda
beck.
I
live
on
forest
avenue
in
evanston,
I'm
a
vice
president
of
the
board
of
trustees
of
the
evanston
arts
center.
I
am
here
tonight
because
our
board
president
is
out
of
town
evanston.
Arts
center
has
been
an
evanston
fixture
for
over
80
years.
40
of
those
years
have
been
spent
at
the
harley
clark
mansion
property.
E
During
the
decades
we
have
existed.
Countless
evanstonians
have
applied
innumerable
hours
to
turn
the
evanston
arts
center
into
a
world-class
art
center.
During
a
meeting
just
last
week,
we
learned
from
the
city
manager,
through
our
board
president
and
our
executive
director,
that
the
240-day
eviction
clause
in
our
lease
would
be
under
discussion
tonight.
At
this
meeting
we
get
it.
We
get
that
the
city
wishes
to
re-envision
the
harley
clark
property.
E
We
are
left
scratching
our
heads,
though,
as
to
why
we
are
not
sitting
down
with
you
to
work
out
a
soft
transitioning
process
that
allows
the
arts
center
to
exist.
While
we
continue
to
help
the
city
achieve
its
goals
of
repurposing.
This
property,
how
did
we
get
to
this
point
where
an
80
year
old
institution,
with
a
world-class
reputation
beloved
by
art,
enthusiasts
of
all
ages
and
backgrounds,
is
in
jeopardy
of
being
evicted
by
the
city?
We
have
only
served
to
highlight
and
make
better
through
our
existence.
E
The
comments
are
poignant
and
they
vary,
but
mainly
people
aspire
to
take
classes
and
show
their
art
here
in
evanston.
Our
programs,
in
all
their
various
forms,
help
find
people
help.
People
find
a
part
of
themselves,
they
perhaps
did
not
know,
existed
or
helps
the
person
play
to
their
strengths
or
perhaps
provides
a
paycheck
through
the
work
we
recently
completed
on
our
business
plan.
We
are
implementing
programs
that
broaden
and
deepen
evanston's
art
ties
to
even
more
economically
age-related
and
health
and
well-being,
constituents
and
communities.
E
We
are
the
only
organization
in
the
region
offering
maker
labs,
woodworking
studios
matter.
Sculptural
and
design
and
digital
classes
are
exhibition.
Programs
which
have
international
status
have
been
expanded
to
include
even
more
opportunities
for
artists
from
multiple
disciplines
to
exhibit
at
the
arts.
Center
art
enthusiasts
travel
to
our
evanston
arts
center
to
teach
learn
and
buy.
E
No
other
organization
in
the
region
offers
the
breadth
and
depth
of
multi-disciplinary
teaching
learning
and
exhibition
opportunities
under
one
roof.
We
know
that
evanston
arts
center
is
an
integral
place
in
people's
lives,
and
we
know
evanston.
Arts
center
is
an
integral
piece
of
evanston's
fabric.
E
Nora
pointed
out
that
our
work
with
experts,
ranging
from
brokers,
developers
and
consultants,
yielded
a
time
frame
consistent,
necessary
for
an
organization
of
our
size
and
nature.
If
we
are
to
continue
to
exist,
please
do
not
be
the
evanstonians
who
vote
to
entertain
an
eviction
discussion.
Please
do
not
be
the
evanstonians
who
open
the
door
for
the
discussion
that
allows
for
even
further
decline
in
our
operations
or,
ultimately,
the
demise
of
the
evanston
arts
center.
E
Please
be
the
committee
that
says
enough
is
enough.
Let
us
work
with
the
arts
center
to
create
a
reasonable
transition
plan
that
allows
all
parties
to
operate
and
exist
in
the
city.
We
all
love
be
a
leader
that
makes
true
the
city's
website.
Words
that
read
in
evanston
the
arts
are
celebrated.
Often
thank
you.
F
Members
of
the
committee
and
good
evening-
and
thank
you-
you
surely
know
by
now
the
value
to
this
community
of
the
many
services
offered
by
the
this
remarkable
community
treasurer.
F
I
want
to
go
instead
directly
to
the
question
that
that's
before
us,
and
that
is
essentially
how
did
we
get
to
this
place
in
the
first
place?
Why
are
we
here
at
odds
regarding
a
timing
issue,
if,
indeed,
we
are
at
odds?
F
F
Now
it
seems
the
illinois
department
of
natural
resources
perhaps
wishes
to
occupy
the
building.
Evidently,
the
department
has
pockets
deep
with
my
tax
dollars
and
yours
fine,
but
they
opt.
They
obviously
need
some
considerable
time
to
get
their
plans
in
order.
Perhaps
we
are
asking
for
a
bit
more
time
than
they
would
like,
but
given
the
enormous
consequences
of
not
granting
this
time,
it
seems
not
much
to
ask.
F
F
G
Okay,
I'm
going
to
speak
on
the
art
center,
this
art
center,
but
really
what
I'm
going
to
speak
on
is
the
whole
issue
of
this
is
we
all
know
the
city
tried
to
sell
this
property
for
commercial
use
and
that
and
upset
many
residents
in
this
town.
Hundreds
and
hundreds
of
people
and
the
bottom
line
is
this:
property
is
not
to
be
sold
for
commercial
use
at
that
time,
the
art
center
didn't
say
too
much
about
it
for
quite
a
while.
G
G
They
said
at
the
meeting,
and
I
point
blank
asked
the
director
in
charge:
will
you
have
three
or
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
to
pay
the
rent
on
this,
and
they
said
yes,
basically,
they've
said
that
and
they
have
the
capital.
So
the
arts
center
now
wants
to
give
you
a
hundred
thousand
for
two
years.
Well,
that's
not
very
much
but
the
real
issue
with
all
this
is
we
can't
lose
the
deal
with
the
state
either.
So
my
problem
is,
I
don't
want
that
property
ever
sold
for
any
commercial
use.
G
It
must
stay
in
the
public
domain.
The
art
center
has
been
given
a
chance.
The
art
center
has
been
given
millions
of
dollars
of
free
rent
for
many
many
years,
so
frankly,
they've
had
their
chance
at
the
building,
I'm
not
against
the
arts
center,
but
this
council
wants
to
decide
to
subsidize
the
arts
center,
basically
you're,
going
to
have
to
subsidize
them
in
the
range
of
three
or
four
million
dollars
to
move
them
or
you're
going
to
have
to
give
them
three
or
four
hundred
thousand
a
year
to
subsidize
them
somewhere
else.
G
G
We,
as
taxpayers
I
like
to
see
some
taxpayers
sit
in
these
negotiations,
quietly
to
observe
these
negotiations
to
make
sure
these
negotiations
run
smoothly.
We
want
transparency,
we
need
to
have
transparency.
I
mean
silly
awards.
The
city
spends
staff
time
on
getting
about
transparency,
mean
nothing,
taxpayers
need
to
be
there
public
agencies,
both
agencies,
there's
no
deals
with
real
estate.
Here
we
need
to
know
what's
going
on,
and
that's
really
what
I
have
to
say
about
that.
G
Basically,
the
citizens
of
this
community
do
not
want
this
sold
in
any
manner
for
commercial
property,
and
that's
what
we've
said.
Many
people
have
said
that
so,
regardless,
if
the
arts
center
wants
more
time
or
not
you're
going
to
have
to
make
sure
that
the
state
either
is
going
to
come
through
with
this
and
get
it
done,
and
we
basically
are
not
selling
this
for
hotel
use.
Thank
you.
C
I
It
requires
time
to
plan
the
programs.
It
requires
time
to
plan
the
exhibitions
and
because,
over
the
period
of
time
that
this
indecision
has
been
hanging
over
the
head
of
the
arts
center,
it
has
really
cost
us
a
lot.
I
was
exhibitions
chair.
We
planned
our
exhibitions
out
three
years
in
advance
and
it
is
really
hard
to
have
a
program
when
you
can't
plan,
and
this
year
we
can't
plan
until
you
make
this
decision
and
tell
us
hopefully
that
we
will
have
two
years
ahead
of
us.
We
really
can't
plan.
I
A
Miss
rosemary
nielsen.
J
K
J
Name
is
rosemary
nielsen,
and
I
represent
my
husband,
dana
and
my
son
bill
and
other
friends
I
came
to
the
I
live
at
2110
grant.
I
came
to
the
meeting
a
few
weeks
ago
to
hear
the
proposal
by
the
illinois
department
of
natural
resources
and
I
strongly
support
leasing,
the
harley
clark
mansion
to
them.
J
L
Sorry
for
coming
late,
mike
the
silko
2728
reese
avenue
evanston.
I
also
just
wanted
to
briefly
voice
my
support
for
the
illinois
department
of
natural
resources
use
of
that
of
the
harley
clark
mansion,
following
all
the
discussions
regarding
this
issue.
For
for
as
long
as
it's
gone
on,
this
is
the
best
and
most
appropriate
use.
I've
heard
for
the
harley
clark
mansion.
I
understand
the
arts
center
is
faced
with
a
situation
of
having
to
find
other
spaces,
but
all
things
said
the.
L
If
somebody
were
to
start
with
a
blank
piece
of
paper
and
say
what
would
you
design
for
the
harley
quinn
design
for
the
art
center
would
not
be
the
harley
clark
mansion
as
an
end
result.
So
I
think
they
it's
it's
not
an
appropriate
building
for
their
use.
It
may
have
served
some
purposes,
but
I'm
sure
they'll
be
able
to
find
a
much
more
appropriate
facility
better
serving
their
uses.
So
thank
you
very
much
and
again
support
the
illinois
department
of
natural
resources.
A
M
Hello,
everyone,
my
name,
is
kevin
johnson.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
say
you
know:
harlem
clinton
is
a
great
program.
You
know
it's
one
of
the
thriving
programs
that
everston
needs
to
have.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
say
that
evanston
is
a
place
of
loving
community
place.
If
the
people
place
is
the
people
town.
Okay,
this
evanston
is
a
people
town.
We
need
to
keep
people
together.
We
don't
need
to
take
programs
away
period,
okay,
the
idea
of
taking
programs
away
from
city
of
evanston.
M
You
know
only
because
you
know
trying
to
save
money.
You
know.
I
just
want
you
all
of
us
to
understand
that
you
know
when
you
guys
running
for
office.
You
know
the
taxpayers
gonna
think
about
you.
You
know
and
they're.
Looking
back
at
you-
and
you
know
you
gotta,
ask
yourself,
you
know
we
need
to
save
these
programs
included
evanston
township
program,
you
know
so
these
programs,
we
can't
keep
taking
them
away
because
look
at
what
happened
chicago
all
the
schools
are
closing.
M
We
can't
have
that
it's
the
community
of
evanston
is
the
love
of
the
people.
We
need
to
keep
people
together,
no
matter
what
the
idea
of
getting
ready
program,
because
we
want
to
save
money.
You
know
think
about
this.
You
know
only
because
you
got
to
realize
this
is
a
piece
of
paper.
Okay,
people
got
more
value
than
a
freaking
piece
of
paper.
M
It
just
doesn't
make
sense,
we
don't
need.
We
know
we
don't
need
to
evaluate
people
over
money.
Okay,
all
right!
That's
why
I'm
trying
to
explain
it
to
you.
We
need
to
remain
strong
with
the
community
and
the
taxpayers
of
evanston,
so
this
piece
of
paper
is
not
going
to
get
us
nowhere.
You
know
we
got
to
understand,
because
why
that's
why
it
says
evanston
is
a
community
loving
place?
It's
the
peopletown!
M
You
get
ready
program,
it's
not
going
to
solve
anything
all
right.
So
all
I'm
asking
you
all
is
evanston
township
program,
that's
included
also,
you
know
and
getting
ready
to
staff,
because
we
want
to
save
250
000.
We
don't
need
to
do
that.
We
need
to
create
more
jobs,
not
over
money
money.
This.
This
is
a
piece
of
paper.
Like
I
told
you,
we
don't
need
it
and
it's
not
worth
it.
People
got
more
value,
we
need
to
think
about
it
and
they're
going
to
look
back
at
you
when
you're
running
for
office
again.
A
N
And
chair
members
of
the
committee
good
evening
just
to
point
out
a
couple
of
other
a
couple
of
other
documents
that
are
there
in
addition
to
the
communications
from
the
art
center,
you
also
have
a
letter
from
the
illinois
department
of
natural
resources
reiterating
their
interest
in
the
facility.
You
also
have
a
copy
of
the
lease
document.
N
Again,
I
think
for
the
for
the
committee's
recollection,
the
discussion
of
the
harley
clark
mansion
started
in
this
committee
back
in
the
spring
of
2011,
and
it
was
in
july
of
2011
when
the
city
council
decided
to
move
forward
with
a
change
of
use
of
the
building.
So
this
has
been
a
project
probably
coming
on
three
years,
certainly
two
and
a
half
years
since
the
council's
direction
to
find
other
uses
for
the
facility.
So
I
think
the
information
before
he's
pretty
straightforward
and
certainly
here,
to
answer
any
questions.
Okay,.
O
N
That
that
is
what
the
the
document
says
again.
I
think
we've
not
done
any
specific
work
with
them.
Certainly,
we've
done
some
additional
work.
Now
the
art
center's
done
some
additional
work,
so
I
think
the
the
known
issues
are
there
with
direction.
I
think
we
can
get
an
agreement
shortly
with
them
and
I,
if
they
say
fall
then
perhaps
that's
something
that's
doable
but
well.
You
know
my.
N
You
know
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
them
as
dietrich
is
here.
My
understanding
from
our
previous
discussions
is
that
the
thought
of
an
interim
site
was
not
one
that
made
sense
for
their
operations
that
they
wanted
to
go
from
one
site
permanent
site
to
another
permanent
site.
Mr
trick
is
somewhere
here
in
the
crowd.
Is
that
that
I'm
sorry.
N
Again,
we've
not
had
those
discussions
again
if
I
characterize
our
conversations
correctly,
mrs
teacher
yeah,
so
if
they
want,
if
there's
interest
in
an
interim
site,
certainly
with
our
economic
development
staff,
we
could
talk
about
that,
but
their
their
indication
up
until
now
has
been.
They
were
not
interested
in
term
site.
Okay,.
P
Grover.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Mr
bob
quits.
You
said
that
the
idnr
there
was
some
earnestness
in
their
communications
about
the
site.
Did
you
get
a
sense
of
urgency?
Is
this
something
that
perhaps
gives
us
a
little
more
wiggle
room
if
we
were
to
pursue
discussions
with
the
idnr
about
use
of
the
building
for
their
purposes.
N
You
know
my
sense
from
the
discussion
that
they
had
at
their
community
meeting,
and
the
question
was
asked:
would
there
be
an
opportunity
for
any
kind
of
coexistence
between
the
arts
center
and
their
uses,
and
they
indicated
in
as
nice
a
way
as
they
could
that
they
didn't
see
that
there
would
be.
You
know,
I
think
there
there
is
always
options.
You
know
my
hope
would
be
that
if
we're
going
to
go
down
the
road
with
the
department
of
natural
resources
that
we
would
do
that
in
a
way
that
would
meet
their
needs.
N
We've
been
dealing
with
this
issue
of
harley
clark
for
a
number
of
years,
and
I
guess
there's
a
hesitance
on
my
part
to
recommend
to
the
city
council
to
to
find
some
sort
of
halfway
goal.
This
is
a
long-term
issue
for
the
city
of
evanston
and
I
think
if
we
can
find
a
way
to
have
the
art
center
transition
out
in
a
way
that
is
respectful
to
them
as
well
as
have
an
opportunity.
If
the
deal
is
agreeable
between
the
city
and
the
state
on
harley
clark
to
move
forward
with
that.
N
So
I
have
had
some
hesitancy
on
any
kind
of
intermediate
solution
or
shared
use
that
that
likely
wouldn't
work,
because
I'm
fearful
that
over
the
long
run,
we
would
just
be
back
here
again
having
these
kind
of
conversations,
and
I
would
hope
that
that
would
not
be
the
case.
P
And
this
is
not
the
first
here's
kind
of
my
thinking
on
this.
We
we
have
a
lease
term
that
provides
for
240
days,
which
is
eight
months.
Is
that
eight
months
it
takes.
P
P
So
one
could
say
that
the
arts,
center's
transition
actually
probably
began
more
than
two
years
ago
and
I'm
fairly
certain
and
correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong,
that
the
the
art
center
strategic
planning
process
and
the
boards
its
board's
deliberations,
have
included
facility
and
an
alternative
and
better
location
for
their
programming
and
operations
for
the
better
part
of
the
two
years.
Since
we
began
the
more
formal
process
with
the
rfp.
P
So
I
think
I
want
to
invoke
the
formal
provisions
in
the
lease,
but
with
the
understanding
that
we
work
with
the
arts
center
all
through
this
year
and
even
after
the
formal
lease
provision
expires,
so
that
we
can
guarantee
what
we're
all
looking
for,
which
is
a
smooth
transition
to
a
better
space
for
the
art
center.
I
think
we're
on
the
same
page
with
that
and
a
soft
landing
for
the
arts
center
that
doesn't
undermine
their
programming
and
allows
them
to
realize
everything
that
the
art
center
wants
in
the
strategic
plan.
P
P
That
seems
to
check
most
of
our
boxes,
and
I
I
think
that
we
need
to
continue
our
discussions
with
the
idnr
about
its
use
of
the
building,
because
it
seems
like
in
so
many
respects
a
good
fit,
and
I
am
really
hesitant
to
lose
this
prospective
tenant,
because
we
want
to
extend
in
this
the
process
with
the
arts
center.
That's
already
been
underway
for
a
long
time,
so
help
me
with
this,
because
I
I
think
that's
what
my
motion
will
be
is
to.
A
Well,
we've
got
a
couple
more
speakers,
so
let
me
get
through
the
speakers
and
then
we
can
get
back
alderman,
tendum
and
then
alderman
is
that
you
almond
fists
again.
Q
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
You
know
a
couple
of
speakers
tonight
asked
how
we
got
here
and
I
think
that
I
think
a
lot
of
people
that
haven't
been
involved
with
the
at
least
in
the
last
four
or
five
years
with
harley
clark
know
that
it's
been
a
a
an
unusual
journey
that
no
one
probably
could
have
predicted.
Q
I
I
think
that,
as
far
as
this
committee
and
the
city,
we
put
out
a
lot
of
mixed
messages
to
the
arts
center
and
I
don't
know
that
we
can
actually
say
well,
you
can.
You
should
have
started
at
this
time
or
that
time
there
were
interim
things
that
seemed
to
be
going
smoothly
and
they
just
didn't.
But
I
think
that
I'm
not.
I
don't
know
that
much
about
the
idnr
proposal
it.
I
don't
know
that
enemies
really
do.
Q
It
sounds
interesting
but,
like
I
said
in
a
previous
meeting,
it's
you
know
it's
kind
of
sexy
kind
of
it's
kind
of
new
and
we
don't
know
much
about
it.
It's
kind
of
a
mystery.
You
know
I
wouldn't
I
wouldn't
risk
the
the
losing
the
art
center
for
a
prospect
that
we
don't
know.
All
that
much
about,
I
do
think
that
that
eight
months
is
far
too
little.
I
think
two
years
is
probably
too
much.
I
think
somewhere
in
between
that
we
can.
Q
We
should
come
to
a
degree,
a
decision,
and
I
think
that
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
flexibility
here
too.
Not
I
don't
think
people
realize
the
or
sort
of
underestimate
the
size
and
the
complexity
of
the
arts
center.
It's
not
it's
a
beast.
Q
It
does
not
move
slowly,
I
mean
quickly,
it
requires
a
lot
of
I
mean
art
class
painting
drawing
yes,
but
they
have
they're
a
lot
more
than
that
they're
everything
much
more
than
that,
but
it's
going
to
take
some
time
if
we
want
to
keep
them
here,
we
want
to
maintain
their
services
and
not
have
them
lose
their
their
their
backers
and
their
their
students.
So
I
I
think,
there's
a
room.
Q
I
think
there's
it's
a
big
harley
clark
is
a
big
you
know,
building
with
a
with
a
outhouse
and
a
few
other
things,
I
think
there
can
be
a
transition
that
that
can
serve
both
harleq,
the
art
center
and
a
perceptive,
a
new
tenant.
But
again,
I
think
that
we
really
need
to
think
about
the
future
of
the
art
institute
quite
seriously.
O
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
just
had
to
go.
O
I
I
had
a
question:
if,
if
we're
not
certain
that
we
have
the
idea
in
our
wrapped
up,
I
mean
what
is
the
possibility
that
if
that
is
wrapped
up-
and
we
come
to
a
formal
agreement
with
them,
that
the
clause
is
then
acted
upon,
so
that
the
200
is
it
240
days,
so
the
240
days
would
begin
at
that
point
and
not
right
now
I
mean
you're
thinking
right
now.
Isn't
that.
N
Well,
well,
alderman,
fist.
Members
of
the
committee.
My
concern
is:
is
that
once
the
the
opportunity
to
move
forward
is
in
place
that
it
might
be
difficult
to
ask
them,
then
to
wait
an
additional
eight
months?
I
think
that
there
are
opportunities
with
the
funding
that
they
have
available.
I
think
that
there
are
opportunities
as
we
look
through
the
balance
of
2014.
N
I
think
a
project
like
this
for
a
state
agency
might
be
eligible
for
something
like
that,
and
my
guess
is
the
time
frame
for
all
this
will
be
in
the
spring
summer.
So
for
us
to
to,
you
know,
try
to
have
an
agreement
and
not
be
able
to
move
forward
on
that
agreement
for
an
additional
eight
months
beyond
that,
we
may
miss
some
of
those
windows.
Okay,.
A
R
First,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
mr
bob
quits
for
finding
a
viable
tenant
after
the
debacle
that
happened
with
the
20
enterprises,
I'm
I'm
glad
that
you
found
a
a
tenant,
that's
willing
to
upgrade
the
building
in
a
manner
that's
safe,
and
that
would
pay
some
rent,
so
that's
exciting,
so
the
business-like
manner
which
you're
handling
this
I
I
applaud
you.
R
We
would
even
looking
at
possible
sale.
We
talked
from
at
least
a
year,
if
not
longer
about
the
rfp
process.
Before
we
even
sent
out
the
rfp
process,
then
once
we
got
bids
back
in,
we
looked
at
those.
We
went
through
many
iterations
of
what
to
do
with
the
building,
so
the
arts
center
has
had
a
very
long
time
to
make
a
decision
on
what
to
do
even
through
the
tiwani
enterprises
piece.
The
arts
center
was
talking
with
tawani
about
space.
R
They
were
looking
to
move.
This
is
not
somehow
a
big
surprise
to
the
art
center
and
that's
where
I'm
having
some
issues
with
with
where
they
are
saying
well,
this
is
out
of
the
blue.
We
only
have
eight
months,
there's
been
many
years
of
discussion
with
this,
and
even
after
the
the
tiwani
was
voted
down
by
the
majority
of
the
the
people
on
this
council.
R
The
arts
center
then
said.
Oh
no,
now
we
want
to
stay
there,
so
they
couldn't
make
the
decision
what
what
they
want
to
do,
even
though
all
the
building
issues
now
we're
coming
back
saying:
oh
no,
now
we
do
want
to
leave
so
I'm
I'm
not
sure
that
they're
necessarily
negotiating
in
good
faith
on
on
on
their
end,
and
we
need
to
move
forward
with
this.
This
is
about
dollars
and
cents.
This
is
about
the
viability
of
having
programming
for
the
arts.
R
As
well
as
other
social
service
agencies
that
we
do
here,
we
have
to
have
be
financially
responsible.
What
we're
doing
right
now
is
not
financially
responsible
with
harley
clark,
and
I
appreciate
you
again,
city
manager,
for
doing
the
responsible
thing
with
doing
finding
a
new
lease
tenant.
I
really
appreciate
it.
A
Ultimate
grover,
I
just
wanted
to
say
before
I
call
on
you
that
I
think
we
need
to
think
about
what
will
happen
after
two
years.
We
we
may
not
have
a
viable
tenant,
so
it
would
seem
to
me
that
and
I'm
listening
to
all
memphis
saying
let
the
240
days
start
after
we
negotiate
with
them.
I
don't
think
we
can
negotiate
with
them,
because
we'd
have
a
lease
and
then
we'd
be
negotiating
with
someone
else.
I
don't
know
if
that's
even
legal
to
do.
A
To
the
end
of
the
year,
so
we're
talking,
you
know
to
the
end
of
the
year,
at
least,
and
if
the
new
tenant
is
willing,
we
may
be
able
to
get
them
to
agree
to
a
few
extra
months,
and
I
think
that
we
could
ask
the
city
manager
to
try
to
negotiate
that.
But
I
do
think
that
based
upon-
and
I
I
read
the
memo
this
afternoon-
and
it
was
good
to
hear-
I
wish
we
had
heard
this
a
year
ago-
that
the
safety
issues
are
going
to
be
taken.
Care
of.
A
I
really
worry
about
that
and
if
you
remember
I
said
at
the
very
beginning,
the
safety
issues
of
the
center
was
very
important
to
me.
So
I
think
we
need
to
you
know
we
need
to
move
ahead
and
try
to
do
the
best
we
can
in
terms
of
of
trying
to
get
some
additional
time
for
them
if
it's
possible
and
in
the
meantime,
maybe
suggest
other
spaces.
A
I
I
think
it
was
mr
bowell
who
said
they
had
one,
but
it
wasn't
quite
nailed
down.
We
have
no
idea
what
you're
looking
at,
but
there
are
spaces
and
places
in
evanston
that
maybe
you
would
want
to
look
at
that.
Maybe
we
could
suggest-
and
that
could
certainly
share
it
with
you,
via
the
city
manager,
alderman
grover,.
P
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
think
I'm
on
those
along
the
same
lines
as
you're
suggesting
is.
I
don't
want
to
jeopardize
the
prospective
tenancy
of
the
idnr.
This
seems
like
the
best
option.
Long
term
for
harley
clark
and
renovations
to
the
building
ought
to
be
done
with
a
mind
to
who
occupies
the
building
next
and
how
do
we
renovate
the
space
for
the
next
tenant
for
the
next
long
term?
O
Now
this
is
my
last
comment:
aldrin
grover.
I
absolutely
agree
with
you.
I
think,
especially
since
the
arts
center
has
decided
that
the
that
harley
clark
does
not
work
for
them.
We
do
need
to
move
ahead
with
what
looks
like
a
very
viable
tenant.
Q
Thank
you.
I
think
that
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
potential
here
for
with,
if
it
is
the
idnr
that
that
is
selected
and
comes
back
with
a
proposal
that
we
like,
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
flexibility.
Obviously
I
think
the
comfort
level
that
the
art
center
had
reached
with
tawani
was
that
they
were
going
to
work
together
and
smooth
this
and
make
a
transition.
You
know
eight
months,
I
suppose
back
then,
would
have
been
the
same
month.
Q
Eight
months
it
is
now
it
wouldn't
have
been
any
easier,
but
I
know
that
they
felt
they
had
support
understanding
and
that
would
be
a
smooth
transition.
So
this
is
a
big
unknown
to
the
center.
It's
reasonable
that
they
would
be
concerned
about
their
transition,
and
you
know
I
just
think
that
as
soon
as
we
know
there
is
a
serious
proposal
coming
our
way
from
the
idnr
we
put
them
in
touch
with
the
arts
center
and
say
you
know,
this
is
a
concern
of
ours
as
well.
A
All
right
is
there
a
motion.
P
I'll
move
madam
chair
set
forth
in
the
memo.
I
move
that
we
receive
the
report
that
we
direct
the
city
manager
to
issue
the
notice
of
lease
termination
to
the
evanston
arts
center
pursuant
to
the
current
lease
agreement,
and
that
we
also
direct
the
city
manager
to
continue
discussions
about
a
partnership
with
idnr
about
use
of
harley
clark.
A
Okay.
That
will
be
four
five,
five
yeses
and
one
no.
A
N
And
madam
chair,
if
I
may
just
make
some
introductory
comments
before
absolutely
before
you
receive
speakers
in
my
staff
report
to
the
committee,
I
indicated
that
I'm
asking
for
direction
this
evening
on
an
amendment
to
an
agreement
between
the
city
and
care.
N
As
the
staff
report
details,
there
was
a
document
that
was
agreed
to
several
years
back,
that
included
not
only
providing
services
at
the
animal
shelter,
but
also
an
expansion
of
the
animal
shelter
and,
as
you
all
know,
the
work
on
the
expansion
did
not
move
forward,
largely
because
of
economic
concerns
that
the
city
of
evanston
had
so.
While
that
piece
has
not
moved
forward.
N
The
continuing
arrangement
between
the
city
and
care
for
the
operation
of
the
animal
shelter
has
so,
while
there's
been
lots
of
community
discussion
about
the
animal
shelter
over
the
last
several
weeks,
I
I
hope
that
the
committee
at
the
end
of
hearing
from
members
of
the
public
will
come
back
to
my
request
and
that
is
for
direction
on
an
amendment
to
that
existing
agreement
for
a
for
a
12-month
period
to
allow
us
to
move
forward
and
kind
of
refresh
the
relationship.
N
I
think
that
the
existing
facility
by
anyone's
measure
is
not
what
it
should
be.
It
wasn't
what
it
should
be
10
years
ago,
when
the
city
began
discussions
on
an
expansion.
So
again
lots
of
issues
have
been
raised
in
the
community,
which
are
all
important
valid
issues,
but
my
concern
is
your
city.
Manager
is
what's
next
and
so
would
ask
you
to
to
think
about
that
and
and
come
back
to
the
staff
report
at
the
end
of
the
discussions
this
evening
and
provide
direction.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
A
C
T
U
A
A
A
Thank
you
all
right
now
we
have
a
couple
of
presentations
just
so
we
can
have
the
little
guidelines
here
we're
going
to
have
two
presentations:
first
from
gail,
loving,
loving,
loving
girl
and,
and
then
alisa
kaplan.
Those
are
going
to
be
no
more
than
10
minutes.
A
After
that,
then
I
will
begin
to
call
on
the
speakers
and
because
I
have
no
idea
who's
going
to
speak
who's,
not
going
to
speak
if
you're
not
going
to
speak.
You
just
tell
me
I'm
going
to
cross
your
name
off,
as
I
call
the
names
we'll
call
people
up
in
maybe
by
force
and
I'm
going
to
have
to
limit
the
time
to
about
a
minute
and
a
half
no
more
than
a
minute
and
a
half.
Normally
we
give
you
three
minutes.
A
V
V
Recent
articles
and
associated
online
chatter
have
made
it
really
clear
that
there's
significant
misunderstanding
about
care,
its
role
in
the
community
and
its
relationship,
both
with
the
city
of
evanston
and
its
city
and
the
city
animal
shelter.
I
want
to
spend
a
few
moments
today
talking
with
you
about
what
care
is
and
does
we
are
available
to
this
committee
at
any
time
to
answer
any
questions,
we
have
a
lot
of
information.
We
have
posted
on
our
website,
which
is
also
available
to
you.
V
V
We
care
for
the
hundreds
of
stray
lost
and
abandoned
cats
and
dogs
that
come
into
the
shelter
every
year
and
a
few
miscellaneous
guinea
pigs,
birds,
mice,
snakes,
whatever
comes
in,
we
take
care
of
it.
We've
been
serving
the
evanson
community
for
25
years.
We
believe
that
every
adoptable
animal
deserves
a
safe
and
loving
forever
home.
V
Our
adoption
program
takes
into
account
the
needs
and
expectations
of
our
community
and
our
adopters,
as
well
as
as
much
as
our
animals.
We
train
we
socialize
and
provide
mental
stimulation
for
our
animals.
While
they
are
at
the
shelter,
it
makes
them
more
adoptable
and
it
also
relieves
the
stress
of
the
shelter
we
have
no
time
limit
for
how
long
an
animal
can
stay
at
the
shelter
we
are
more
than
an
adoption
group.
We
are
a
community
service
organization.
V
We
provide
behavioral
assistance
to
anybody
who
calls
with
problems
with
their
dogs
and
cats,
regardless
of
where
they
adopted
or
purchased
those
animals.
We
stock
the
pet
food
sections
of
two
pantries
food
pantries,
and
anyone
in
need
of
food
for
their
pets
can
come
to
the
shelter
and
we
provide
it
to
them.
V
We
worked
with
the
police
department
to
waive
the
35
dollar,
give
up
fee
for
people
who
had
financial
hardship
and
had
to
give
up
their
dog.
This
was
our
cat.
This
was
particularly
pressing
at
the
height
of
the
recession
when
people
couldn't
afford
to
keep
their
dogs
or
their
cats
and
then
asking
them
to
give
35
dollars
to
give
it
up
to
give
them
up
seemed
a
little
bit.
Much
and
care
was
actually
paying
these
fees
itself.
Until
we
worked
out
an
agreement
with
the
city,
we
provide
humane
education
to
pre-teens.
V
We
have
a
preteen
group
who
comes
into
the
shelter
we
work
with
schools,
girl,
scout
troops
and
other
groups.
We
cover
the
shelter
on
evenings
weekends
and
holidays,
regardless
of
weather,
which
in
the
past
month
and
a
half,
has
become
a
pretty
serious
consideration,
but
no
matter
how
extremely
cold
it
is.
You
will
go
by
the
shelter
and
find
volunteers
taking
care
of
those
dogs
in
the
evenings
and
on
the
holidays.
V
V
We
use
behavior
evaluations
and,
as
the
triptop
report,
which
I
believe
you
got
pointed
out,
we
use
industry,
standard
evaluation
processes
and
our
evaluators
have
the
necessary
expertise,
but
it
doesn't
really
start
with
the
evaluation.
It
starts
from
the
moment
the
dog
comes
in,
we
work,
we
observe
what
they're
doing
and
how
their
behavior
is.
We
give
them
extra
time
to
acclimate
to
the
shelter
if
we
think
we
they
need
it.
We
work
with
dogs
that
have
specific
behaviors,
that
we
can
help
modify
through
training,
and
then
we
retest
them.
V
Let's
face
it.
We
spend
a
lot
of
time
and
a
lot
of
effort.
We
love
animals,
we
love
dogs,
we
want
them
all
to
pass,
but
at
the
same
time
we
feel
responsible
to
our
adopters
and
the
community
to
ensure
that
we
are
adopting
out
dogs
that,
to
the
best
of
our
ability,
we
believe
are
going
to
be
safe
and
loving
companions.
V
V
I
did
say
I
was
an
adoption
counselor,
which
means
I
talked
to
a
lot
of
people
who
come
in
to
get
dogs.
They
come
to
us
expecting
to
find
solid
dogs
that,
with
a
little
bit
of
work,
will
become
really
great
dogs.
They
are
not
looking
for
dogs
that
are
going
to
have
to
be
managed
carefully
to
avoid
harm
to
people
or
other
animals.
V
V
V
The
interesting
thing
is
that
paws
hand
picks
the
dogs
that
they
have
at
their
shelter.
They
pick
out
only
those
dogs
that
seem
most
adoptable
and
even
doing
that
they
still
had
to
euthanize
41
dogs.
We
don't
have
that
luxury
about
a
vast
majority
of
our
dogs
are
strays.
The
others
are
give
ups
that
just
come
through
our
door.
V
V
V
We
are
getting
them
up
on
almost
100
sites
for
adoptable
animals
and
the
care
website
faster
than
ever
going
forward.
We
met
with
the
city
of
city
officials
in
november
and
talked
about.
Let's
try,
let's
try
to
get
our
relationship
improved
and
move
forward
for
a
year
and
see
if
we
can
make
this
long-term
relationship
continue
to
work
and
improve
and
improve.
What's
been
going
on,
we
recommended
that
animal
control
follow
best
practices
and
decisions
on
what
to
do
with
dogs
that
care
doesn't
believe
should
be
adopted
in
the
community.
V
We
have
recommended
that
they
evaluate
and
qualify
rescues.
The
humane
society
of
the
us
has
sent
care
a
number
of
samples
of
forms
that
other
shelters
use
to
vet
rescues,
making
sure
they
have
the
capacity
and
the
resources
to
provide
all
the
care
these
animals
need.
Can
you
begin
to
wrap
it
up
because.
V
V
Care
is
committed
to
continuing
as
a
humane
organization
devoted
to
providing
every
adoptable
animal
a
safe
and
loving
forever
home.
We
don't
know
if
this
is
going
to
be
possible
to
do
in
evanston
or,
if
evanston
even
wants
an
adoption
group
like
care,
but
we
do
know
that
a
future
partnership
to
be
successful
must
respect.
Care's
role
and
expertise
must
have
protocols
for
ongoing
communication
and
a
process
for
resolution
of
disagreements.
A
W
We
can
hear
you
hi
everyone.
My
name
is
elisa
kaplan
and
I
represent
a
group
of
volunteers
at
the
evanston
animal
shelter
who
are
concerned
about
cares,
euthanasia
and
behavior
evaluation
practices
throughout
2011
and
2012.
Several
of
us
who
are
senior
volunteers
at
care,
approached
individual
care
board
members
with
questions
about
specific
dogs
and
practices.
W
We
were
especially
concerned
with
the
behavior
evaluation
process
and
how
it
resulted
in
a
high
euthanasia
rate.
We
formally
submitted
a
list
of
questions
to
the
care
board
in
october
of
2012..
The
board
acknowledged
that
our
canine
euthanasia
rate
was
between
40
and
50
percent,
but
said
they
had
no
plans
to
reduce
it.
They
also
told
us
to
stop
asking
questions
at
this
point.
We
concluded
that
no
further
productive
discussion
was
possible
within
the
organization,
and
we
approached
city
officials.
W
Every
year
about,
250
dogs
come
into
the
evanston
animal
shelter.
Most
of
these
about
150
are
quickly
returned
to
their
owners.
The
remaining
100
become
city
property
and
go
through
cares.
Behavior
evaluation
process
of
these
care
fails
just
under
half
about
46
percent
and
recommends
them
for
euthanasia.
W
Some
representatives
of
care
have
been
arguing
that
the
euthanasia
rate
is
lower.
This
is
because
care
now
includes
lost
dogs
who
are
returned
to
their
owners
when
calculating
their
euthanasia
rate.
This
is
a
new
strategy
because,
as
I
mentioned
in
october,
2012,
the
care
board
stood
by
the
40
to
50
percent
number.
W
W
As
you
can
see,
care
deemed
43
of
these
dogs,
adoptable
and
40
dogs
unadoptable,
the
numbers
are
practically
equal.
Even
if
you
subtract
dogs
that
care
claimed
were
euthanized
for
medical
reasons
or
because
of
warden
recommendations.
The
percentage
of
shelter
dogs
care
deemed
unadoptable
in
2012
was
about
46
percent
for
unclaimed
dogs.
Then
the
picture
is
clear.
W
Other
shelters
are
doing
better,
even
with
many
more
dogs,
chicago
anti-cruelty,
takes
in
about
2
500
dogs
a
year
and
euthanizes
22
percent
of
their
unclaimed
dogs,
new
york
city
processes,
9
000
dogs
a
year
and
also
euthanizes
22
percent
of
its
unclaimed
dogs.
The
two
most
comparable
small
shelters
to
evanston
are
the
waukegan
and
north
chicago
shelters.
Waukegan
takes
in
four
times
as
many
dogs
as
evanston,
yet
euthanizes.
Just
four
percent
of
its
unclaimed
dogs
and
north
chicago,
which
took
in
99
unclaimed
dogs
in
2012,
did
not
euthanize
a
single
one.
W
W
W
W
W
She
noted
that
care
evaluations
produce
a
high
failure
rate
and
that
the
process
could
be
too
rigorous,
particularly
in
light
of
new
data
showing
that
failed
tests
are
not
thoroughly
predictive
for
behaviors
outside
the
shelter
like
the
aspca.
She
also
noted
that
using
these
tests
as
a
basis
for
euthanizing
is
becoming
less
common
among
shelters.
W
Both
reports
raised
several
other
issues.
These
included
care's
failure
to
vaccinate
incoming
dogs,
poor
communication
with
the
evanson
police
department
and
shelter
staff,
the
lack
of
enrichment
such
as
treats
and
toys
for
failed
dogs,
the
lack
of
cooperation
with
outside
rescue
groups,
the
long
kennel
stays
of
many
animals
restrictive
adoption
practices,
the
lack
of
a
foster
program,
although
cared
to
just
put
one
dog
in
foster
last
week
and
more
care
recently
support
submitted
a
proposal
for
a
one-year
agreement
with
the
city.
W
W
A
little
background
here
on
rescue
groups
rescues
have
changed
the
sheltering
world
in
recent
years
and
are
cutting
euthanasia
rates
around
the
country.
Most
rescues
are
small
organizations
that
don't
have
a
lot
of
money,
but
they
are
very
successful
at
finding
homes
for
dogs.
They
pull
from
shelters
by
broadening
the
pool
of
potential
foster
and
adoptive
homes.
They
can
get
animals
out
of
cages
and
into
homes
more
quickly.
W
This
is
especially
important
in
a
smaller
community
like
evanston,
with
a
small
adoption
pool
and
a
limited
market
for
certain
breeds
or
types
of
dogs.
Successful
cooperation
with
rescues
requires
shelters
to
build
mutually
respectful
relationships
with
these
groups.
It
also
requires
the
shelter
leadership
to
be
a
strong
advocate
for
its
dogs,
so
the
question
is:
can
care
work
effectively
with
outside
rescue
groups
to
save
evanston
dogs?
W
In
addition,
care
has
openly
criticized
the
rescues
that
have
saved
evanston
dogs
and
indicated
that,
given
the
choice,
they
would
not
have
worked
with
them
when
asked
about
how
they
work
with
rescues
care
recently
told
aldermen
that
they
don't
actually
reach
out
to
rescues.
They
wait
for
them
to
contact
care.
W
W
W
In
addition,
kara's
proposal
would
make
it
hard
for
the
shelter
to
be
an
effective
advocate
for
failed
dogs.
Is
care
going
to
advocate
for
these
dogs,
or
is
it
going
to
make
their
rescue
more
difficult
by
saddling
with
this
saddling
them
with
the
stigma
of
a
discredited
and
flawed
test?
These
are
some
of
the
problems
we
see
with
care's
proposal.
W
Since
2012,
several
of
us
have
helped
chief
warden
techler
partner
with
rescues
to
place.
18
failed
dogs
that
care
wanted
to
be
euthanized.
We
have
helped
by
paying
for
spay,
neuter
vaccinations
and
other
medical
care,
transport
and
training.
When
care
would
not.
We
have
formed
relationships
with
rescue
groups
and
seen
firsthand
their
dedication
and
their
ability
to
find
good
homes
for
evanston
dogs.
W
These
are
all
dogs
who
failed,
care's,
behavior,
evaluation
and
care
requested
be
euthanized.
There
is
more
information
about
them
in
a
packet
that
will
be
distributed
later.
One
is
in
boarding
and
17
are
thriving
in
foster
or
adoptive
homes.
Can
you
begin
to
wrap
up?
Your
10
minutes
is
almost
we're
just
about
done.
W
Finally,
I
want
to
share
a
video
of
a
dog
care
recently
failed
for
food
aggression.
When
care
tested
ramsay,
he
was
not
neutered
and
he
was
caged
next
to
a
female
in
heat.
He
was
also
underweight
and
highly
stressed
in
the
kennel.
By
contrast,
this
video
was
taken
after
ramsay
had
been
in
a
home
for
two
days.
No
special
training
was
done
with
him.
W
A
Thank
you.
We
need
to
keep
moving
sorry.
We
have
two
guests
from
north
of
us
from
the
waukegan
police
department
commander,
joe
floreb
and
sergeant
kelly.
Are
you
here?
A
Okay
here
they
come.
They
wanted
to
make
just
make
a
couple
of
statements.
X
Hi,
I'm
sergeant
cory
kelly
with
the
waukegan
police
department.
Thank
you
for
having
us.
This
is
a
commander
joe
florup.
In
august
of
2013
commander,
joe
flor
became
part
of
our
community
services
division
and
one
of
the
tasks
that
he
was
given
is
to
redo
our
police.
Animal
control
from
the
ground
up.
Y
Thank
you
excuse
me,
thank
you
thank
you
for
inviting
us,
so
we
appreciate
the
time
to
come
and
speak.
I've
met
with
a
few
of
the
the
members
on
the
council,
they've
coming
up,
they've
visited
our
shelter
or
our
animal
control
at
waukegan,
and
we
appreciate
you
taking
the
time
to
come
up
and
visit
us
and
for
inviting
us
down
the
waukegan
police.
Animal
control
is
a
very
new
experience
for
us:
we're
moving
away
from
a
police,
animal
shelter
concept
to
a
police,
animal
control
concept.
Y
We,
like
evanston
half,
are
part
of
the
services
division
and
we
have
to
deal
with
the
the
needs
of
our
community
in
our
community
right
now.
We
currently
have
three
full-time
animal
control
officers
and
they
are
responsible
for
housing
these
animals
until
we
can
fight
until
we
can
find
appropriate
locations
for
them.
They're
responsible
for
chipping
our
animals
are
responsible
for
investigating
our
bites.
Y
Many
different
things
that
the
police
department
services
are
provided
with.
That
said,
we
do
work
with
numerous
rescue
organizations
any
given
time
between
20
and
50
rescue
organizations
that
we
team
up
with
to
try
to
place
our
animals.
The
waukegan
police
department
does
not
physically
place
the
animals
to
individuals,
but
we
deal
through
numerous
rescues.
Y
Our
rescues
are
really
our
our
main
resource
in
placing
our
animals
that
can
be
placed.
We
are
striving
towards
being
a
no
kill,
shelter,
any
animal
that
is
healthy,
that
we
can
place.
We
want
to
place
them,
it's
a
it's
a
commitment
from
our
council
and
it's
a
commitment
from
our
mayor's
office.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
V
And
angela,
who
was
supposed
to
be
the
first
speaker,
is
a
dog
trainer
and
had
to
go
and
leave
to
go,
teach
a
class.
They
do
have
her
remarks
which
I'd
like
to
submit.
A
P
Alderman
grover.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
The
direction
that
I'd
love
for
this
community
to
head
into
on
the
discussion
of
the
animal
shelter
and
our
agreement
with
care
is
perhaps
to
form
a
subcommittee
of
this
committee.
I'm
thinking
specifically
of
two
of
us
who
would
be
good
to
serve
on
a
subcommittee
to
continue
discussions
with
care
about
the
operations
at
the
animal
shelter
and
their
work
with
the
with
our
animals
and
I'm
just
anticipating
it.
P
I
always
regret
that
these
situations
make
people
feel
the
need
to
take
sides,
and
I
worry
that
this
discussion
will
take
a
turn
or
or
have
a
tone
to
it.
That
really
undermines
all
the
extraordinary
work
that
these
volunteers
do,
regardless
of
which
side
they
think
they're
on
and
and
I'd
like
to.
If
there's
a
way
to
even
head
that
off
and
put
this
to
a
a
subcommittee
of
two
of
us
and
I'd
love
for
alderman,
fisk
and
alderman
tendon.
P
To
then
be
the
two
from
the
subcommittee
from
this
committee,
who
would
work
with
care
and
city
manager,
bob
quits
and
the
appropriate
folks
to
see
if
we
can
secure
an
agreement
with
care
that
would
extend
the
current
agreement,
but
also
incorporate
some
of
the
things
that
we
all
have
concerns
about.
And
so
I
will
move
the
creation
of
a
subcommittee
and
suggest
if,
if
they're,
willing,
alderman,
fisk
and
alderman
tend
them
to
work
on
this
issue
and
continue
the
discussion
in
a
good,
meaningful,
productive
way,
so
that
I,
the
speakers,
will
want
to
speak.
P
But
I
also
don't
want
this
to
become
like
the
kind
of
situation
where
people
feel
the
need
to
cheer
and
boo,
which
undermines
the
civility
of
the
discourse.
And
I
I
really
want
this
to
be
a
productive,
constructive
conversation
that
serves
all
of
our
interests.
The
volunteers,
as
well
as
the
animals,
as
well
as
the
leadership
of
care.
A
I
I
think
it's
a
great
suggestion,
alderman
grover,
and
we
can
get
a
second
on
that.
My
okay,
my
thought
too,
is
that-
and
I
had
this
conversation
earlier
with
some
people,
I
believe
from
both
sides
that,
after
reading
both
reports,
we
know
that
we
just
people
just
need
to
sit
down
and
figure
this
out,
and
I
don't
think
we
can
do
it
in
this
setting,
but
so
I
think
subcommittee
and
if
alderman
fest
would
you
be
willing
and
all
of
intended
as
well?
P
Evening
we
need
to
I'm
sorry,
we
need
to
vote
and
yes
and
and
given
the
action
I
predict
we're
about
to
take,
perhaps
those
who
are
looking
to
speak
tonight
can
also
readjust
what
they're
going
to
say
and
what
their
audience
is,
because
we're
taking
a
step,
perhaps
ahead
of
where
you
were
when
you
walked
in
the
door
tonight
and
just
to
keep
that
in
mind.
We
want
to
hear
from
everyone,
of
course,
but
we
also
want
everyone
to
understand
that
we
are
taking
action.
A
Z
Carlson
good
evening,
yes,
I'm
a
resident
at
623
oakton
in
the
ninth
ward
and
a
two-year
volunteer
with
care
working
with
cats.
So
I'm
talking
to
the
cat
side
of
the
world
and
our
care
cats
at
care
are
an
undisputed
success
story.
The
fact
is
that
the
majority
of
animals
in
the
evanston
animal
shelter
are
cats
in
number.
The
shelter
may
have
from
15
to
36
cats
at
any.
Z
Given
time
in
2012,
there
were
112
cat
adoptions,
that's
roughly
two
per
week,
and
the
number
of
incoming
cats
has
greatly
declined
over
the
years
and
we
think
a
good
part
of
that
is
because
of
our
spay
neuter
programs
and
consistent
messages
with
the
public.
It's
spay
neuter
spay,
neuter
spay,
neuter
no
exceptions
and
this
seems
to
be
working
care.
Volunteers
provide
100
of
the
daily
cat
care,
while
some
of
the
dog
wardens
assist
in
the
morning
weekday
care
volunteers
provide
everything
in
terms
of
daily
cat
care.
Z
Z
We
turn
those
growling
and
hissing
cats
into
pussycats
over
time,
or
we
sure
try
to
anyway,
exercise
and
play
time
are
critical
to
the
cat's
well-being
and
in
our
shelter
that
often
occurs
in
the
bathroom.
That's
sometimes
the
only
space
that
we
have
to
use,
and
so
we
use
it
care
spares
no
expense
when
it
comes
to
medical
care
of
our
cats.
All
incoming
cats,
of
course,
get
a
thorough
vet
exam
shots
and
blood
work,
and
so
forth.
Spaying
and
neutering
are
done
at
our
expense.
I
have
to
ask
you
to
wrap
it
up.
Z
Z
Our
outreach
programs
benefit
community
members
in
ways
you
may
not
realize
someone
mentioned
the
food
pantry
program.
One
of
our
volunteers
makes
a
weekly
wellness
check
on
a
person
who's
mentally
unstable,
to
check
on
her
cats.
Week
after
week
after
week,
we
provide
pet
food
to
indigent
people
in
the
community.
To
summarize,
we
provide
ourselves,
we
pride
ourselves
on
the
quality
care
we
give
to
evans
and
cats
and
the
services
we
provided
the
community.
I
couldn't
be
more
proud
of
the
work
that
care
does.
Z
A
Just
want
to
remind
you
that
there
are
39
of
you,
so
I'm
trying
to
keep
it
at
a
minute
and
a
half,
and
we
just
went
over
to
two
minutes
and
a
half
on
that.
One.
Okay
and
I'm
sorry,
I
missed
mr
benjamin
schuler,
I'm
it's
the
next
speaker
and
after
that
you've
had
jordan,
granberry.
AA
My
name
is
benjamin
schuler,
I'm
a
resident
of
evanston
I'd
first
like
to
thank
the
committee
for
its
time
and
service
to
the
community
and
to
thank
all
my
fellow
volunteers
here
tonight
for
their
time
and
service
to
the
community.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
and
the
freedom
to
speak
this
evening.
I
support
the
work
of
care
on
behalf
of
the
animals
in
the
comm
in
the
community.
AA
There's
an
idea
in
the
weightlifting
world
that
it's
not
just
about
how
strong
you
are
training
for
a
single
day
or
a
single
event,
but
how
strong
you
are
on
any
given
day
365
days
a
year,
the
question
how
strong
is
care?
What
does
it
do
on
any
single
day
is
one
that
I
love
to
answer
and
I'll
stick
with
a
single
example.
AA
I
volunteer
for
care
on
saturday
nights
at
the
shelter
I
work
with
the
cats
and
inside
the
building,
feeding,
socializing
cleaning,
medicating
laundry
shoveling
snow
and
I've
even
played
santa
once
in
a
while.
This
last
saturday
evening
we
had
a
new
kitten
who
had
arrived,
the
shelter
less
than
24
hours
earlier,
frostbitten
burned,
severely
dehydrated
and
malnourished.
AA
AA
AB
AB
It
is
volunteers
who
make
sure
that
the
dogs
are
walked
at
least
twice
per
shift
on
those
same
evenings
and
weekends,
and
it
is
volunteers
who
work
with
adoptable
dogs
through
a
daily
matrix
of
activities
such
as
responding
to
commands
behaving
properly
in
public
settings
or
just
sitting
quietly,
as
well
as
initial
behavior.
Training
on
the
basics
like
sit
down
paw
come
so
that
when
they
are
shown
to
prospective
adoptive
families
the
process
process
of
developing
behaviors
that
will
be
needed
in
the
real
world
has
begun.
AB
It
is
volunteers
who
represent
the
community
and
care
at
events
and
show
our
adoptable
animals
and
and
present
the
organization
and
how
we
do
things
overall.
It
is
this
same
volunteer
pool
who
go
to
great
lengths
to
provide
daily
mental
and
physical
stimulation
to
keep
the
dogs
in
the
kennel
happy
and
to
represent
the
city
and
our
organization,
as
the
responsible
community
resource
that
we
are,
our
volunteer
corps
ranges
in
age.
I
asked
you
to
wrap
it
up.
AB
How
could
it
possibly
be
that
the
vast
majority
of
our
group
wouldn't
be
up
in
arms
if
the
organization
was
indiscriminately
recommend
recommending
the
euthanasia
of
animals
no
volunteer
likes
it?
When
a
recommendation
has
been
made
for
euthanasia
and
some
years
ago,
that
message
would
come
to
us
involves
volunteers
began
to
ask
what
actually
happened
to
make
that
decision
happen.
AB
They
began
to
give
us
a
weekly
update
on
exactly
the
methodology,
what
activities
the
dog
was
put
through
and
what
behaviors
were
evidenced.
The
vast
majority
of
our
volunteers
believe
it
is
important
to
act
responsibly
in
releasing
dogs
to
the
community
and
support
the
evaluation.
I'm
sorry,
but
we're
over
three.
A
AB
AC
I
want
to
thank
you
I
had
I
was
hospitalized
and
in
a
rehab,
and
they
took
my.
The
animal
wardens
took
my
cat,
my
guinea
pigs
to
the
to
care,
and
they
were
very
well
taken.
Care
of.
I
was
horribly
scared,
though,
that
my
cat
would
be
killed
because
she
was
an
elderly
cat.
She
wasn't,
I
was
able
to
get
her
back
and
I
thanked
them.
AC
A
Thank
you
and
their
cats
are
mentioned
in
the
reports,
michelle
dem
demos,
demos
and
after
that,
mr
risky
and
then
emma
smith
and
karen
strauss.
AD
I
just
wanted
to
start
by.
Thank
you
thanking
you
for
giving
me
the
time
to
speak.
My
name
is
michelle
demos
and
I
have
been
a
a
volunteer
at
care
for
10
years,
an
adoption
counselor
for
the
last
six
years.
When
a
family
arrives
at
the
shelter
they
complete
an
adopted
adoption
survey.
They
provide
us
with
helpful
information
about
their
household
and
past
dog
experience,
as
well
as
what
they're
looking
for
in
a
canine
companion,
a
great
majority
of
potential
adopters,
sorry
have
the
same
concerns
when
they
are
thinking
of
adopting
a
shelter
dog.
AD
AD
They
most
likely
do
not
want
and
stated
on
the
application,
a
dog
that
has
behavioral
issues.
In
addition,
there's
a
portion
of
the
application,
that's
asked
them
to
specify.
Under
what
circumstance
would
you
consider
giving
up
your
dog
and
almost
all
in
all
cases,
for
fighting
and
aggression
would
be
a
reason
for
them
to
return
a
dog
or
give
up
their
dog
to
an
animal
shelter?
AD
I
would
be
absolutely
horrified
as
an
adoption
counselor
and
as
a
mother
of
three
young
children,
to
hear
that
a
dog
I
placed
into
a
home
bit
someone
especially
a
child
or
even
attacked
another
dog.
Can
we
ask
you
to
wrap
it
up?
I'm
sorry!
It's
over
two
minutes.
I
feel
confident
that
the
procedures
that
care
has
put
into
place
minimizes
this
risk.
G
Okay,
janette
riske,
I'm
going
to
speak
to
a
slightly
different
point
of
this.
I
want
to
know
mr
bobcats
wanted
to
sell
the
animal
shelter
at
one
point,
I'd
like
to
understand
more
about
the
financials
of
what's
going
on
here,
because
I
sort
of
hear
this
organization's
going
to
have
one
year
agreement.
G
So
what's
going
on
here,
where's
the
council
on
this
issue
of
running
this
thing
as
an
operation,
and
what's
going
on,
I
like
to
follow
the
money
really
and
find
out
what's
going
on
now,
you
know
I
can
foyer
the
city
and
get
all
kinds
of
information
and
I've
done
that
plenty
of
times,
but
I
really
want
to
know
what's
going
on,
are
we
going
to
close
the
animal
shelter
at
one
point?
Mr
bobkowitz
wanted
to
turn
this
into
a
commercial
development.
He
talked
about
selling
it.
G
So
I'd
like
to
know
where
the
council
stands
with
this,
and
is
the
council
going
to
support
more
money
to
fix
this
place,
I
mean
that
that's
what
I'm
sort
of
hearing
you're
not
going
to
support
more
money
or
what's
going
on
so
you
know
why
we
this
place,
could
close.
It
sounds
like
just
like
the
arts
center,
so
maybe
some
some
enlightenment
on
all
this
and
working
for
you
you
tomorrow
and
we
can
talk
thanks.
AE
In
my
experience,
most
of
the
dogs
that
care
has
decided
to
fail
at
their
behavior
evaluations,
have
been
stable,
happy
and
affectionate
animals
that
have
the
potential
to
thrive
in
a
family
home.
I
believe
that
if
there
is
a
way
to
help
these
animals
live
the
lives
they
want
and
deserve,
it
is
our
duty
as
concerned
citizens,
to
find
that
way.
I
can't
imagine
considering
continuing
to
give
as
much
effort
as
I
do
now
to
an
organization
that
so
quickly
looks
to
eliminate
very
adoptable
dogs.
AE
AF
You
I
am
karen
strauss
and
I
have
been
volunteering
with
care
for
14
years
and
I
have
participated
in
most
of
care's
fundraisers
during
that
time.
The
donations
that
we
solicited
were
all
given
to
quote
care
for
the
evanston
animal
shelter.
End
quote,
I'm
also
an
evanston
resident
and
I've
been
a
proud
evanston
resident
for
over
20
years,
and
I
am
troubled
by
the
thought
that
care
may
take
the
million
and
a
third
dollars
that
we
raise
quote
for
the
evanston
animal
shelter
end
quote
and
take
it
elsewhere.
AF
There
is
no
question:
the
donors
thought
they
were
giving
money
for
the
evanston
animal
shelter.
We
asked
donors
to
contribute
twenty
dollars
each
for
a
white
t-shirt
that
read
quote:
we
don't
need
a
mansion,
just
an
expansion,
since
I
arrived
in
2000,
both
volunteers
and
donors
have
been
working
hard
to
raise
money
for
a
new,
expanded
shelter
in
evanston
and
when
that
vision
was
finally
in
our
reach,
the
board
started
moving
money
out
of
the
building
fund.
AF
I
was
present
at
a
board
meeting
on
august
25th
2013,
when
the
board
acknowledged
that
it
had
one
and
one-third
million
in
the
building
fund.
At
that
time,
the
board
voted
to
move
and
eight
thousand
dollars
out
of
the
building
fund
and
into
the
operating
fund.
However,
in
a
meeting
of
all
the
volunteers
on
sunday
october,
27
2013,
the
board
announced
that
there
was
only
twenty
nine
thousand
dollars
in
the
building
fund.
Can
you
where,
where
is
all
this
money
going?
The
money
was
supposed
to
be
for
an
evanston
animal
shelter?
AF
AG
AG
AG
Both
of
my
dogs
came
from
care
as
puppies,
and
they
weren't
there
very
long.
Both
I
think,
if
tested
today,
would
probably
fail
the
evaluation
for
the
stranger
danger
portion
of
the
evaluation.
AG
I'm
constantly
grateful
that
I
got
them
out
before
they
were
there
long
enough
to
go
kennel
crazy
and
have
to
be
retested
they're,
incredibly
loving
and
gentle
dogs
to
those
they
know,
including
my
15
month
old
son,
who
is
in
love
with
them.
I'm
saddened
for
the
dogs
that
didn't
make
it
out,
but
would
have
been
just
as
loving
to
deserving
family
had
they
been
given
a
chance
to
go
into
a
home.
AH
Good
evening,
my
my
co-volunteer
here
has
passed
is
passing
out
some
information.
My
name
is
vicky
pasenko
and
I've
been
a
volunteer
at
the
evanston
animal
shelter
for
seven
years
tonight.
I
want
to
share
with
you
the
stories
of
18
dogs
who
were
deemed
unadoptable
by
care
and
subsequently
place
with
rescue
organizations
by
linda
techler,
the
admiral
warden
care
says
that
there
are
no
kill
shelter
because
they
never
euthanize
a
dog
that
is
adoptable,
read
these
stories,
and
you
will
see
that
that
is
wrong.
AH
These
18
dogs
have
proven
that
failed
dogs
are
highly
adoptable
care
says
that
by
rescuing
these
dogs,
the
warden
is
putting
dangerous
animals
into
the
community.
Read
these
stories,
and
you
will
see
that
there
is
nothing
dangerous
about
any
of
these
dogs
care
uses
their
behavior
evaluation
process
to
determine
the
adoptability
of
a
dog.
We
know
that
two
experts
have
questioned
the
validity
of
that
process.
AH
AI
Hi,
I'm
stephen
young.
I
live
in
skokie
I
used
to
live
in
evanston,
I'm
a
lifetime
dog
owner
I've
had
many
many
dogs
in
my
life.
We've
adopted
everything
from
strays
to,
in
one
case,
a
feral
dog,
and
we
I'm
here
to
tell
you
about
experiences
with
two
dogs
that
I
encountered
with
the
evanston
shelter
in
the
fall
of
2012.
AI
We
had
just
lost
the
dog
to
illness
and
I
was
told
about
a
dog
named
roscoe
at
the
shelter
that
was
a
nice
little
male
pit,
bull
that
needed
a
home.
I
went
over
to
visit
him.
He
was
a
sweetheart.
He
was
all
wiggles
and
kisses
nice
personality
perfectly
good,
adoptable,
family
dog,
and
so
I
put
the
process
in
motion
to
adopt
him
and
my
sons
went
over
to
visit
him.
They
said
he's
cool,
let's
adopt
this
dog
and
just
about
the
time
you
were
supposed
to
pick
them
up.
AI
I
got
a
phone
call
from
the
shelter
saying
he
had
failed
a
test
and
he
was
no
longer
up
for
adoption.
I
did
not
know
what
the
policy
of
the
shelter
was
that
time
I
thought.
Well,
I
can
fix
this
I'll
just
go
over
and
explain
to
these
folks
that
I've
had
a
lot
of
different
dogs
in
my
life
and
I
can
handle
you
know
just
about
anything
they
throw
at
me.
AI
So
I
went
over
there
and
I
was
met
by
a
volunteer
and
she
unfortunately
explained
to
me
that
roscoe
had
to
be
put
down
because
he
had
failed
this
test,
which
consisted
of
taking
him
out
of
his
cage
after
he'd
been
in
there
for
23
hours,
they
give
him
a
bone
and
then,
within
a
short
period
of
time
they
take
the
bone
away
from
him,
which
to
me,
is
a
set
up
for
failure,
and
I
was
pretty
incensed
about
it.
AI
But
this
woman
who
came
out
to
meet
me
also
had
another
dog
with
her,
which
was
in
her
care,
and
I
said
well
what
about
this
one
she
up
for
adoption.
She
was
I
interacted
with
the
dog.
We
put
the
process
in
motion
and
we
adopted
her.
Her
name
is
bella.
She's
been
with
us
for
over
a
year,
she's
working
out
great,
my
family
adores,
her
she's,
a
real
sweetheart,
but
that's
not
the
end
of
the
story.
AI
AI
I'm
sorry,
okay
and
anyway,
she
she
was
being
left
alone
and
she
started
chewing
the
furniture,
and
so
the
couple
brought
her
back
and
they
said
we
can't
keep
her.
The
shelter
immediately
live
with
her
unadoptable
marked
her
up
for
euthanasia,
and
this
volunteer
said
no.
This
would
be
a
mistake.
This
dog
just
needs
to
be
in
the
right.
Environment,
she'll,
be
a
fine
family
dog,
so
she
took
her
into
her
home
until
we
came
along
and
adopted
her.
AI
So
that's
two
dogs,
I've
had
they
were
both,
in
my
judgment,
very
good
dispositions,
good
family
dogs,
and
they
were
both
marked
for
euthanasia,
which
says
to
me.
There
are
some
flawed
decisions
being
made
here.
That
test
is
almost
entrapment.
If
you
did
that
to
a
person,
it's
it's
a
setup
for
failure
and
that
the
euthanasia
rate
at
this
shelter
really
upsets
me.
It
obviously
can
be
much
lower.
So
I
wanted
to
share
my
two
experiences
with
you.
Thank.
D
AJ
Hi,
my
name
is
kathy
roberts.
I've
been
a
volunteer
at
the
evanston
shelter
since
2009,
and
I
would
like
to
say
that,
since
all
of
these
things
have
come
about
as
far
as
the
euthanasia
rate,
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
work
with
many
rescue
groups
who
are
saving
our
dogs,
and
I
just
want
to
say
these
people
are
dedicated
they're
committed.
They
don't
have
a
lot
of
money,
they
have
a
lot
of
heart.
AJ
I
appreciate
everything
they've
done
and
I
think
that
we
have
a
lot
to
learn
from
them
and
I
think
that
we
as
evanston
should
keep
an
open
mind
if
we
want
to
save
all
of
our
animals,
there's
a
lot
more
that
we
could
do
than
what
we're
doing
right
now.
So
please
keep
in
mind
these
beautiful
rescue
people,
these
trainers
that
give
everything
and
have
very
little
where
evanson
has
so
much
and
gives
so
very
little.
Thank
you.
Thank.
D
A
A
P
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
It's
it's
so
clear
that
this
is
an
issue
about
which
everyone
feels
so
passionate,
and
I
think
this
is
the
point
of
the
evening,
though,
that
if
someone
has
said
something
already
that
were
in
your
remarks
that
you
intended
to
say
that
we've
heard
it
it's
part
of
our
notes,
we
have
taken
note
and
we've
made
a
record,
and
so
you
should
feel
comfortable,
not
feeling
the
urge
to
speak.
P
If
if
someone
else
has
spoken
for
you,
so
please
and
and
again,
a
reminder
that
maybe
I'm
just
speaking
for
me,
but
the
applause
I
find
is-
has
the
same
effect
as
booing
people
that
it
it.
It
makes
it
difficult
for
anyone
to
want
to
step
up
and
speak
openly
in
public.
P
We
hope,
high
functioning
and
get
the
job
done,
and
sometimes
personal
relationships
will
get
in
the
way
and
the
tone
that
we
said
in
our
public
discussions
can
also
undermine
the
ability
of
the
committee
to
be
effective.
So
please
keep
in
mind
if
someone
has
already
said
what
you
intended
to
say
feel
comfortable,
not
speaking.
H
A
H
I'm
from
wakanda
area
and
I'm
a
volunteer
for
the
north
chicago
animal
control,
and
I
just
wanted
to
just
stress
the
fact
that
we
are
a
small
animal
control
center
with
a
one-woman
show
there
with
the
probably
about
under
20
volunteers.
So
as
a
group,
we
work
as
a
group.
You
know
it's
just
a
wrong
circle
of
people,
volunteering
working
with
the
dogs
helping
dana
to
achieve
the
no
kill
situation
she
has
taken
on
so
far
since
a
year
and
a
half.
H
If
you
look
back
at
the
google-
and
you
know
what
the
stories
were
back,
then
she's
made
a
remarkable
turnaround,
and
so
I
just
feel
that
even
all
of
us
as
a
group
can
just
come
together
and
just
make
it
all
work
and
I'd
like
that.
One
saying
we're:
I'm
going
to
really
shorten
this,
but,
as
hillary
clinton
once
said,
it
takes
a
village
for
it
to
grow
for
raise
a
child.
It
also
takes
the
same
for
animals.
H
A
AK
Good
evening,
thank
you
for
letting
me
speak.
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
share
my
experience.
I've
had
with
care.
I
was
a
former
volunteer
there
about
two
years
ago.
I
have
since
moved
on
to
a
rescue
organization,
where
I
hold
a
board
position,
one
particular
situation
I
had
there
was
with
the
12
week
old
border
collie
mix
puppy.
She
was
actually
euthanized
for
food
aggression.
AK
AL
I'm
suzanne
ehrenberg,
I'm
an
evanston
resident.
I
was
going
to
read
you
two
letters
that
were
written
by
individuals
who
can't
be
here
today,
but
I'm
just
going
to
briefly
describe
their
sentiments,
which
are
that
they're
outraged
by
the
the
euthanasia
rate
and
have
experience
with
dogs
who
they
love
and
who
have
been
great
family
pets.
AL
It
appears
that
the
care
administration
is
airing,
perhaps
on
the
side
of
caution,
and
I
just
hope
that
going
forward
in
working
with
this
subcommittee
that
the
care
administration
can
keep
an
open
mind,
perhaps
drop
some
of
the
defensive
posture
that
it's
adopted
and
really
be
open
to
making
the
changes
that
are
necessary.
Thank
you.
AM
Oh
well,
okay,
the
writing.
Yes,
I
understand.
I'm
rob
mark
I've
lived
in
evanston
for
15
years,
I'm
not
a
care
volunteer,
I'm
a
dog
owner
cat
owner.
You
know
I've
been
following
some
of
the
the
stories
that
have
been
going
on.
You
know
on
online
and
it
it's
all
gotten
pretty
heated
and-
and
I
guess
one
thing
I
want
to
add
listening
to
alderman
grover-
ask
about
something
different.
AM
Is
that
just
because
I'm
questioning
the
process
doesn't
mean
that
I'm
questioning
all
these
neat
folks
that
have
come
here
to
to
to
speak
on
behalf
of
care
or
the
folks
that
are
worried
because
it
I
just
looking
at
the
data.
Something
looks
strange,
something
just
doesn't
add
up
now.
I
know
there
are
a
lot
of
people
on
both
sides
that
have
questioned
the
things
that
have
been
published.
I
don't
know
I'm
I
said,
I'm
not
a
care
volunteer.
I
didn't
work
there.
AM
I've
been
through
the
shelter,
though
I've
I've
watched,
how
it
how
it
works.
Something
just
doesn't
look
right
to
me
trying
to
find
out
information
about
the
dogs
that
have
been
euthanized.
Why
is
this
information
secret?
I
don't
understand
why,
in
a
public
shelter
that
information
is
secret,
that
makes
no
sense
to
me
again.
Does
it
mean
there's
something
wrong
with
these
people?
AM
No,
I'm
just
saying
that
doesn't
make
any
sense
to
me,
and-
and
so
I
guess,
the
only
thing
I
want
to
say
is
that
if
you
look
at
the
information
that
came
around
before
the
I
called
them,
the
pack
of
18,
you
know
those
dogs
that
were
unadoptable
that
were
going
to
be
if,
if
they
came
out
all
right,
something
something's
got
to
be
flawed
somewhere
and
and
all
I
care
about
is
that
we
come
up
with
a
process
that,
if
it
means
keeping
all
these
great
volunteers
on
I'm
all
for
it,
I
just
don't
want
to
see
us
kill
a
bunch
of
dogs
that
don't
need
to
be
killed.
A
Okay,
beginning
with
the
next
group,
we
have
erica
brown,
ed
grandma,
maybe
joyce
versati,
maybe
leslie,
and
I'm
sorry.
I
can't
make
this
nathan.
It
looks
like
maybe
those
will
be
the
next
four
people.
T
T
Having
a
dedicated
rescue
organization
should
lead
the
city
on
a
path
to
being
no
kill.
However,
the
leadership.
It
cares
belief
that
their
evaluation
system
is
the
end-all
be-all
and
that
other
rescue
organizations
are
not
qualified
to
make
a
decision
on
whether
or
not
they
are
able
to
safely
rehabilitate
a
dog
leaves
these
dogs
to
be
euthanized
unnecessarily.
T
Thank
you
to
linda
tackler,
the
animal
control
warden.
Second,
ants
news
rescue
has
been
able
to
come
in
and
evaluate
the
dogs
that
care
wanted
euthanized
and
we
determined
that
they
would
be
a
good
fit
into
our
program
and
they
were
transferred
to
us.
There
are
a
lot
of
other
great
rescue
organizations
out
there
who
would
be
willing
to
do
the
same.
It
is
my
belief
that
the
relationship
with
care,
if
the
relationship
with
care
is
to
continue
there
is
to
be
a
program
put
in
place,
making
event
animals
available
to
other
qualified
rescue
organizations.
T
If
they
are
a
good
fit
they'd
be
transferred
to
care,
if
they're
simply
not
a
good
fit
for
their
program,
they
could
become
available
for
other
rescues,
to
come
in
and
do
an
evaluation
and
make
a
decision
on
their
own
care
does
not
have
to
be,
nor
should
it
be
the
end-all
be-all
for
these
dogs,
as
shown
by
the
ones
that
have
been
transferred
to
other
organizations
and
placed
in
the
loving
homes.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
D
AN
My
name
is
big
ed
gramiack,
I'm
with
big
ed's
dog
training.
I
work
with
a
lot
of
different
rescues
and
I
work
actually
close
to
have
a
close
relationship
with
north
chicago
animal
control,
waukegan
animal
control
as
well,
and
it's
one
of
those
situations
where,
after
hearing
about
ramsay
today,
you
know
the
the
the
psych
psychological
you
know,
synopsis
of
the
behavior
is
putting
an
intact
male
around
an
in
heat.
AN
Female
is
tapping
into
that
primal
side
of
the
animal,
and
it's
one
of
those
things
where
it's
it
kind
of
comes
from
a
circumstance
where
either
you're
setting
the
dog
up
to
fail,
which
I
don't
think
that's
the
intention
or
it's
just
a
lack
of
knowledge
and
to
have
a
behavioral
evaluation
set
up
like
that
is
it
needs
to
it
needs.
It
really
needs
to
be
changed,
because
if
it's
coming
from
a
lack
of
knowledge
standpoint,
then
all
they
need
is
an
education
on
true
dog
behavior.
AN
You
know
you
can't
bring
a
dog
out
of
a
kennel
after
sitting
in
for
23
hours,
give
them
something
and
then
take
it
away.
I
would
freak
out
too,
if
I
was
sitting
in
a
box
for
23
hours,
and
you
gave
me
a
stake
and
then
said
nope,
you
know
I
think
I
might
bite
your
hand
off.
You
know
what
I
mean
it's
when
we
think
about
it.
In
terms
of
that,
you
know
it's
a
lot
more
understandable.
You
know
I
haven't.
AN
I
fortunately
have
had
the
pleasure
because
of
linda
erica,
you
know,
megan
from
black
dog
have
all
had
been
able
to
come
out
and
evaluate
some
of
the
lucky
18
that
were
deemed
unadoptable,
and
I,
when
I
came
out
to
meet
him,
I
was
kind
of
like
I
I
didn't
get
it.
I've
been
working
with
highly
reactive
dogs
with
high
I've,
rehabilitated
dog,
fighting
dogs,
I've
rehabilitated
bait
dogs,
I've
rehabilitated
dogs
with
serious
food
possession
issues,
fear
you
know,
beer-based
reactivity.
AN
You
know
dogs
that
don't
like
men,
dogs
that
don't
like
dogs,
I've
worked
with
them
all
and
I
I
love
to
work
with
the
worst
of
the
worst
and
it's
one
of
those
things
where
it
made
me
scratch
my
head
and
kind
of
wonder.
You
know
it's
just
about
education.
You
know
if
they
got
a
better
education
on
a
truly
productive
behavioral
evaluating
system.
We
could
save
a
lot
more
dogs
because
that's
kind
of
what
we
all
and
everybody
in
this
room
got
into
this
to
do
so,
that'll
help
with
all
that.
V
A
D
It
looks
like,
b,
u
r,
a
b,
o
r
s
a
t
t.
I.
A
AJ
AO
I
might
not
even
have
become
aware
of
the
current
euthanasia
issue
if
my
shift
was
a
different
night
or
had
I
not
been
present
when
rocky
reluctantly,
relinquished
by
his
owner
of
two
years,
sat
waiting
and
watching
intently
at
the
lobby
door
for
his
owner
to
return
rocky
was
someone's
pet
for
two
years,
but
according
to
cair's
temperament
evaluation,
he
was
unsuitable
to
live
in
a
home.
I
met
arya
and
fell
in
love
with
her
a
sweet,
little
boston,
terrier
boxer
mix
when
volunteers
were
trying
to
coax
her
to
eat
because
she
wouldn't
otherwise.
AO
I
was
incredulous
when
I
found
out
the
temperament
evaluators
failed,
her
for
being
food
aggressive.
Both
of
these
dogs
were
pulled
by
the
evanston
wardens
sent
to
rescues
and
are
now
family
pets.
I
harbor
no
illusions
that
all
dogs
can
or
should
be
saved
at
any
cost.
The
epidemic
of
overpopulation
of
dogs
and
cats
is
larger
than
all
of
us,
but
when
dogs
such
as
these
two
examples
among
many
are
failed
by
the
care
system.
The
system
isn't
working
thanks.
A
A
AP
Hi
I
had
a
whole
thing
that
I
was
gonna
do,
but
I
decided
to.
AP
Gonna
wing
it,
oh
okay,
great,
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
haven't
really
talked
about.
Yet
is
the
structure
within
care
and
how
the
communication
works,
and
that
was
one
of
the
problems
that
I
had
as
a
kennel
captain
volunteering
there.
AP
I
don't
believe
that
my
skills
with
the
dogs
were
utilized
well
enough
that
we
were
even
given
an
opportunity
to
work
with
dogs
to
correct
some
of
the
issues
such
as
the
food
aggression,
which
was
a
very
common
reason
for
euthanizing,
a
lot
of
the
dogs
and
a
very
easy,
manageable
fix
for
a
lot
of
these
dogs
that
could
have
meant
life
or
death.
One
of
the
dogs
that
I
fell
in
love
with
fiona
was
a
little
pekingese
mix.
I
didn't
see
her
as
a
threat
to
the
community
at
all.
AP
AP
She
was
never
given
the
opportunity
to
be
someone's
pet
and
I
think
she
deserved
that
opportunity
and
I
think
that
the
care,
the
care
volunteers,
given
the
opportunity
could
have
helped
her
become
that
dog
that
would
have
made
a
wonderful
family
pet,
and
that's
really
all
I
wanted
to
add.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
X
K
I
had
to
rewrite
everything
on
the
screen
here
so
with
me.
While
I
try
to
read
my
own
writing
here,
my
name
is
alison
graham
and
I
live
at
328
glen
denning
place
in
waukegan,
I'm
the
president
of
wags,
which
is
stands
for
waukegan
animals
getting
saved.
It's
a
volunteer
organization
that
supports
the
animals
of
waukegan
and
waukegan
animal
control.
I
can
promise
you
that
wags
are
doing
many
of
the
same
things
that
care
is
doing
for
your
animals.
K
We
care
about
our
animals
just
as
much
as
you
do
we're
on
the
same
team.
We
want
the
same
thing
for
the
animals.
The
difference
that
I'm
seeing
is
this
90
is
that
98
of
our
dogs
are
making
it
out
of
the
shelter
alive
and
into
permanent,
loving
safe
homes.
So
how
do
we
do
this?
In
waukegan
we're
committed
to
becoming
a
no-till
city?
K
Okay,
evanston
needs
a
solution.
Clearly
it
does
not
have
to
be
the
waukegan
model,
but
it
has
to
be
the
waukegan
save
rate.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Sorry.
I
would
be
more
than
happy
to
talk
with
city,
council
members
or
care
to
share
any
information
you
want
to
know
about
waukegan
and
wags.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
AQ
Good
evening,
I'm
rebecca
schufert,
I'm
a
lifelong
resident
of
evanston
and
a
doctor
from
care
of
this
very
handsome
boy
eight
years
ago,
and
I
wanted
to
just
say
that
the
vast
majority
of
care
volunteers
are
wonderful
people
who
are
dedicated
to
the
welfare
of
the
animals
in
the
shelter
and
who
will
continue
to
provide
their
time
and
effort
with
or
without
the
presence
and
involvement
of
the
organization
care.
My
concern
is
about
the
individuals
that
care
who
decide
who
lives
and
dies
at
the
animal
evanston
animal
shelter.
AQ
I
adopted
my
dog
from
care
about
eight
years
ago.
He
had
been
in
the
shelter
nearly
a
year
and
was
not
faring
well.
He
was
spinning
in
circles
licking
the
bars
of
his
cage
and
not
very
interested
in
engaging
with
people,
but
in
a
very
short
time
after
I
began
fostering
him
he
adjusted
beautifully
to
living
in
a
home.
Today
he
is
a
highly
intelligent,
affectionate,
loyal
companion.
AQ
Anyone
who
has
worked
in
a
shelter
or
has
adopted
a
dog
knows
that
the
behaviors
exhibited
in
a
shelter
are
very
often
a
response
to
that
environment
and
not
necessarily
an
indication
of
how
that
animal
will
be
placed
once
it's
placed
in
a
home.
Temperament
testing
should
be
used
primarily
to
assess
areas
that
an
animal
may
need
work,
not
to
make
on-the-spot
determinations
as
to
who
lives
or
dies.
AQ
As
far
as
the
temperament
testing
testers,
my
personal
experience
is
with
cares.
President
linda
gelb,
and
while
I
was
while
my
dog
angus,
was
at
the
shelter,
I
became
aware
that
miss
gelb
wanted
to
euthanize
him.
I
had
worked
as
a
veterinary
technician
for
three
years
and
is
a
professional
dog
sitter
for
ten
years,
and
yet
the
process
of
fostering
and
adopting
angus
was
made
very
difficult.
I
experienced
first
hand
that
miss
galb
often
seemed
to
have
a
personal
agenda
against
particular
animals
or
particular
people,
and
is
often
not
objective
in
her
decision
making.
AQ
She
seems
to
flex
authority
in
ways
that,
for
many
dogs
led
to
their
questionable
deaths,
I
do
not
want
to
dismiss
the
many
years
and
countless
hours
that
miss
kelp
has
devoted
to
care,
but
I
don't
feel
that
she
makes
appropriate
decisions
regarding
euthanasia
and
that
her
personal
agendas
get
in
the
way
of
sound
leadership.
Too
many
animals
are
being
euthanized.
H
AQ
Mine
dog
was
one
of
those,
and
I
believe
that,
with
with
greater
oversight
from
the
city
and
the
two
sides
working
together,
that
we
can
really
make
some
appropriate
changes.
Thank
you
great.
AR
Good
evening
my
name
is
steven
levine,
I'm
a
resident
at
1105
leonard
place
right
across
the
street.
I
have
just
a
handful
of
very
basic
points
and
observations.
AR
My
first
is
that
I
have
a
rescue
dog
and
I
wonder
if
I'd
have
that
dog
if
that
dog
was
a
care.
My
second
is
that
I
was
the
regional
commissioner
of
ayso
youth
organization,
which
was
all
volunteer
in
evanston.
I
applaud
all
volunteers
in
evanston
we
have
a
wonderful
set
of
volunteers
throughout
the
city,
doing
wonderful
things.
AR
Sometimes
we
got
it
wrong
at
ayso
on
particular
issues.
Sometimes,
perhaps
care
is
getting
it
wrong
on
a
particular
issue.
The
disparities
that
we
are
hearing
between
what's
going
on
in
places
like
waukegan
and
what's
going
on
in
care
with
respect
to
dogs
which
are
perceived
to
be
unadoptable
and
need
to
be
euthanized,
is
alarming.
It
is
something
that
this
council
should
care
deeply
about,
and
I
think
that
it
does,
and
it's
obvious
that
everyone
in
this
room
cares
deeply
about
it.
AR
No
one
wants
to
see
a
dog
who
can
be
saved,
not
be
saved
saved,
and
it
seems
like
we're
having
very
different
criteria
as
to
what
dogs
can't
be
saved.
We
have
to
get
our
arms
around
that
and
that's.
My
third
point
is,
I
strongly
encourage
the
council
to
take,
and
I
apologize
remember
remembering
the
woman's
name
from
waukegan
wags
wags,
who
offered
to
participate
to
put
her
on
that
subcommittee
and
have
her
be
a
part
of
the
discussion
of
a
system
that
is
working,
working
well
and
placing
98
of
its
stocks.
Thanks.
Thank.
A
AS
AS
These
dogs
include
a
rattweiler
who
was
abused
and
had
some
problems.
He
turned
out
to
be
okay,
another
rattweiler
with
a
birth
defect
in
her
hip,
serious
health
issues,
but
she's,
a
very
nice
dog,
a
border
collie
who
was
in
an
auto
accident
before
she
was
adopted
and
she
had
to
be
nursed
to
health.
AS
So
I
think
sometimes
dogs
who
seem
to
have
problems
can
turn
out
to
be
okay,
and
I
was
appalled
as
an
evanston
resident
to
hear
about
the
euthanasia
rate
at
the
evanston
animal
shelter
and
I
think
I'm
not
an
expert,
but
I
think
something
should
be
done
and
can
be
done
and
I
hope
it
is
done.
Thank
you
very
much.
AS
Q
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
just
wanted
to
go
on
record
as
saying
the
the
money
issue
is
number
one.
Care
is
a
private
company,
private
organization,
501
3
c3,
and
I
don't
think,
there's
any
reason
among
of
us
up
here
or
anything.
I've
read
that
would
lead
me
to
believe
that
there's
been
any
disappearance
of
money.
Q
I
think
it's
certainly
all
accounted
for
on
their
filings
with
the
irs,
and
I
know
that
for
a
fact-
and
I
just
want
to
just
throw
that
out
there
so
there
so
something
doesn't
start
building
on
that,
and
also
there
was
a
previous
person
up
here
who
someone
who
said
sort
of
named
called
out
somebody
by
name
at
care-
and
I
think
that's
that
is
against
our
council
rules.
Q
We
do
not
allow
personal
attacks
or
even
personal
comments
about
a
single
individual,
it's
more
it's
a
little
more
less
biased
than
that
and
that's
it.
AT
A
AT
So
she
came
from
care,
she
was
deemed
unadaptable
aggressive
and
had
food
wall,
aggression
as
they
mentioned,
she
was
set
to
be
euthanized
and
second
hand.
Snoots
rescue
from
gurney
illinois
stepped
in,
and
they
took
her
into
their
safe
haven
program,
which
is
a
program
where
they
put
the
dog
into
foster
and
all
expenses
veterinary
expenses
and
things
of
that
nature
are
paid
up
paid
by
the
rescue.
AT
As
I
mentioned,
she
was
deemed
aggressive
because
of
food
bowl
aggression
and
she
once
in
our
home,
she
didn't
display
any
sort
of
aggression,
food
related
or
not.
I
could
actually
put
my
hand
in
her
bowl
while
she
was
eating
and
she
would
be
just
fine
and
she
was
kind
of
a
picky
eater,
so
we
actually
sometimes
had
to
feed
her
by
hand
and
obviously
that
would
not
occur
if
a
dog
was
indeed
food.
Aggressive.
AT
You
know
putting
any
dog
in
a
strange,
loud
and
stressful
environment
causes
anxiety
and
stress
for
the
animal.
On
top
of
the
fact
that
she,
when
she
came
to
care,
she
was
found
tied
up,
abandoned
outside
and
she
was
emaciated
so,
in
my
opinion,
taking
an
emaciated
dog
giving
them
both
food
and
them
initially
guarding.
It
is
just
natural,
canine
behavior.
AT
You
know
I'm
not
here
to
discount
all
of
what
the
volunteers
do
at
care,
but
I
think
that
there
definitely
needs
to
be
some
additional
education
on
the
temperament,
testing
and
things
of
that
nature,
and
we
really
need
to
work
on
the
euthanasia
rate.
So
but
charlotte
was
we
lost
charlotte
due
to
an
inoperable
heart
defect
in
september,
but
she
was
a
perfect
addition
to
our
family.
AT
She
was
definitely
a
character,
but
she
was
anything
but
aggressive.
You
may
have
seen
the
picture
of
her
online.
She
was
the
yellow
lab
pitbull
mix.
That
was
licking
my
fiance's
face.
So
we're
happy.
AT
So
again,
just
please
reconsider
the
processes
by
which
you
temperament
test
the
animals,
and
you
know
just
educate
the
volunteers.
There
please
great.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
D
W
Sorry,
I
just
have
one
line
here
about
a
dog
that
was
recently
rescued
by
black
dog
rescue.
Her
name
was
asia
and
she
was
failed
for
food.
Guarding
and
possession
michael
has
her
in
in
his
home
right
now,
and
he
wanted
you
to
know
that
she
is
a
sweet,
affectionate
girl.
She,
he
hasn't
seen
her
show
any
aggression
with
food
toys
or
anything
else
than
that.
All
she
wants
is
love
and
attention
there's
no
way
she
should
have
failed
that
test.
Thank
you.
A
AU
Hi,
my
name
is
veronica
sanchez.
I
live
in
chicago
and
I'm
a
volunteer
for
black
dog
rescue
and
newman
is
my
foster
dog.
He
he
lives
with
two
other
big
dogs
and
one
small,
tiny
little
dog.
That
runs
the
house
and
he
does
great
with
kids.
He
does
great
with
other
people,
everybody
loves
him.
We
love
him
and
he
came
from
care
and
he
was
slated
to
be
euthanized.
AU
AU
AU
So
I
ask
what
policies
are
in
place
that
such
high
euthanasia
rates
are
allowed?
How
are
the
behavioral
evaluations
being
performed
where
so
many
dogs
are
being
deemed
unadoptable
just
like
newman?
If
a
dog
is
deemed
unadoptable?
How
can
we
work
with
that
dog?
How
can
we
put
that
dog
in
training
and
in
a
foster
home
and
get
him
out
of
that
shelter
environment
in
order
for
him
to
to
be
adoptable
and
to
get
him
into
a
good
forever
home?
AU
A
Okay,
then
susan
banich
bamish.
AV
Hi
I'm
susan
banich,
I
live
at
1137,
darrow
avenue
in
evanston
and
you
guys
have
covered
everything
I
just
wanted
to
say.
I
left
an
article
with
judy
fisk
from
bark
magazine,
and
it
gives
an
example
of
two
cities:
san
francisco
and
miami
who
took
alternative
paths
to
handling
their
animal
welfare
problems
and
their
success
with
that.
So,
if
you
would
please
consider
that
article
in
your
subcommittee.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
AW
Well,
most
of
you
know
me
because
of
my
passion
for
trees,
if
it's,
if
it's
possible,
I'm
even
more
passionate
about
animals,
especially
dogs,
and
so
today,
I
just
want
to
take
one
moment
to
commend
every
member
of
the
city
council.
I
think
I've
never
been
more
proud
to
be
an
evanston
resident
than
I
am
today.
The
work
that
has
already
gone
into
this
topic
is
incredible.
AW
A
Okay,
that
was
our
last
speaker
and
we
got
through
it,
and
I
just
personally
want
to
say
thank
you
all
for
hanging
in
here
with
us
to
get
through,
and
thank
you
for
your
passion
and
most
of
all,
thank
you
for
your
commitment
and
your
dedication
on
to
the
animals
of
evanston
and
to
your
service
to
our
community.
A
We
really
do
appreciate
that
we've
already
taken
a
vote
in
terms
of
the
subcommittee,
and
we
will
ask
our
city
manager
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
representation
of
all
the
groups
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
everyone's
view
as
we
try
to
work
over
this
next
year.
As
we
do
the
extension
with
the.
I
think
we
did
that
with
the.
A
Agreement
with
care
and
trying
to
figure
out
where
we
can
go
that'll
be
part
of
the
the
charge
to
the
subcommittee,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
right
representation.
So
city
manager.
Do
you
have
any
questions
in
terms
of
who?
The
groups
are
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
right
representation.
N
Members
of
the
committee-
I
I
think
it
would
be
the
groups
that
made
the
presentation
earlier
this
evening,
so
I
think
that
the
care
board,
who
we've
of
course
been
talking
to
and
then
the
the
group
of
other
concerned
volunteers,
so
my
thoughts
would
be
perhaps
three
from
each
side,
with
the
two
members
of
the
council
on
the
committee
chief,
adding
to
myself
acting
deputy
chief
who's
overseeing
the
animal
control
function.
Right
now,.
A
Okay,
all
right:
okay,
I
see
no
lights.
AX
I
had
a
lot
of
notes
that
I
was
going
to
go
over,
but
most
of
them
have
said,
but
I
just
did
want
to
add,
because
I
have
the
paperwork
this
gentleman
back
here
who
did
note
that
care
does
market
themselves
as
care
for
the
evanston
animal
shelter
on
the
cyber
drive
and
under
the
irs
501
c3
approved
organizations
where
they
do
have
to
account
for
their
money.
They
do
bill
themselves
as
evanston
animal
shelter.
Just
so
you
know
so.
Evanston
does
have
a
responsibility
to
account
for
that
million
bucks.
AF
You
know
what
there
were
two
people
who
thought
they
had
signed
up
and
have
been
waiting
all
night
to
speak.
So
I
don't
know
what
happened
there.
Tom
williams
in
adelaide
row
they're
both
evanston
at
residence
if
they
could
give
them
given
a
minute
each
to
speak.
That
would
be
great.
A
AF
A
AF
AH
A
AX
A
A
moment,
thank
you.
You
want
to
hold
your
emotion,
I'll,
keep
your
light
on,
so
I
won't
forget.
You
want
to
step
forward
and
state
your
name
and
address
please
and
then
I'll
need
you
to
sign
when
you're
finished.
Okay,.
AY
AY
Most
of
what
I
would
have
said
tonight
on
my
own
behalf
has
been
stated
more
eloquently
by
others,
but
I
do
have
three
letters
that
I
would
like
to
read
into
the
record.
If
I
may.
First
of
all,
the
first
is
from
mr
jesse
rosenberg
he's
also
an
evanston
resident
here
is
his
letter.
He
says
abigail
the
sweet
personable
terrier,
who
has
occupied
the
emotional
center
of
my
family
for
ten
years,
was
adopted
from
the
evanston
animal
shelter
on
oakton
street
from
the
first.
AY
I
was
highly
impressed
by
that
shelter,
especially
by
their
rigorous
requirements
for
adoption.
I
now
feel
betrayed
along
with
my
numerous
animal-loving
fellow
evanstonians,
to
learn
of
their
extraordinarily
high
rate
of
euthanasia
is
shocking
to
me
not
only
for
general
humane
reasons,
but
for
personal
ones
as
well.
I
shudder
to
think
how
close
I
became
to
losing
her
life
in
puppyhood.
AY
You
very
much
to
whom
it
may
concern.
I'm
writing
to
voice
my
concern
over
the
euthanasia
practices
of
the
evidence,
animal
shelter.
I
feel
the
criteria
they're
using
is
alarming
and
inhumane.
I
think
the
part
that
is
most
troubling
for
me
is
the
test
of
touching
a
dog
in
the
face,
while
taking
their
bowl
away.
My
sweet
dog
tracy
was
the
gentlest
most
docile
dog
and
had
the
kindest
disposition
on
the
planet.
She
never
had
a
cross
her
aggressive
bone
in
her
body,
I'm
going
to
skip
a
bit.
AY
Your
shelter
should
be
a
safe
haven
for
these
animals.
They
come
to.
You
lost,
abandoned
scared,
tired
hungry
and
in
need
of
love
comfort
in
the
soft
spot
to
land,
while
transitioning
to
a
hopeful
new
adoptive
family
or
to
be
reunited
with
their
lost
family.
Please
give
these
animals
a
chance.
Thank
you
sign
of
shania,
but
siegel,
and
if
I
may
approach
I'll
give
you
the.
AZ
Said
your
name
and
your
address
hi,
my
name
is
adelaide
rowe
and
I
live
at
2406
grant
street
and
I've
been
here
for
35
years,
and
I
have
two
rescue
dogs
that
are
11
years
old
to
lavish
dogs
and
every
day
on
facebook.
I
look
at
these
pictures
and
these
eyes
of
these
dogs
that
are
in
these
on
youth
lists
and
the
people
who
share
their
share
their
pictures,
hoping
that
they'll
be
you
know,
rescued
by
somebody
and
I've
always
thought
wow.
AZ
I
wish
you
know
I
could
do
something
about
it
and
I'm
so
glad
I
live
in
a
community
that
is
so
humane
and
when
I
realized
that
our
community
had
almost
a
50
euthanasia
rate,
I
was
rather
shocked
and
appalled
because
I
think
evanston
is
better
than
that.
We
live
in
one
of
the
best,
most
liberal,
most
humane
cities
in
this
country,
and
we
can
do
better
than
that.
AZ
So
I
would
hope
that
just
like
governor
ryan,
who
put
a
moratorium
on
the
death
ray
the
death,
what's
it
called
the
death
penalty
in
illinois
that
we
could
maybe
put
a
moratorium
on
the
youth
for
the
euthanasia.
For
the
animals
until
we
get
this
all
figured
out
because
I
know
mark
tandem-
is
a
friend
of
mine.
He
has
he's
a
dog
lover,
he'll
get
it
done,
so
I
have
great
confidence.
Can
I
use
that
name?
Is
that
okay?
AZ
P
A
That
covers
our
agenda
as
far
as
I
can
see,
so
is
there
a
motion
for
the
man
of
cherry
move
to
adjourn?
Is
there
a
second?
We
are
john.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.