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A
It's
been
properly
moved
and
seconded
any
questions,
comments
or
edits,
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
any
opposed
eyes
have
it.
Next
we
have
HS
m1
staffs.
Well,
we
already
did
the
minutes
public
comments.
We
have
one
two,
three,
four,
five,
six,
seven
eight
speakers
you'll
each
have
three
minutes:
apiece,
starting
with
state
representative
robin
gable.
B
A
C
B
You
would
like
to
thank
the
committee
for
hearing
our
testimony
today
appreciate
it
so
as
a
state
representative,
the
well-being
of
Illinois
residents,
and
especially
of
those
who
live
in
my
hometown,
Evanston,
is
vitally
important
to
me.
As
our
residents
age,
end
of
life
choices
become
increasingly
important.
Choices
such
as
those
embodied
in
advanced
directives
and
physicians,
orders
for
life-sustaining
treatment
or
post
have
lawn
long,
been
recognized
as
lawful
and
appropriate
by
our
state,
but
Illinois
has
yet
to
enact
a
medical
aid
in
dying
law
like
that
of
many
other
states.
B
I
believe
that
medical
aid
in
dying
should
be
one
of
the
options
available
to
adults
who
are
terminally
ill
and
mentally,
capable
of
making
health
care
decisions
too.
I
have
been
working
with
the
Illinois
end
of
life
options
coalition
to
craft
a
bill
like
the
one
that
has
been
the
law
of
Oregon
for
more
than
20
years.
I
am
also
part
of
compassion
and
choices,
evanston
action
team,
which
has
been
working
since
for
a
couple
years
now
to
educate
Evanston
residents
about
what
this
option
means.
B
In
addition
to
making
presentations
and
leading
discussions
about
end-of-life
options
at
places
of
worship,
senior,
centers
and
senior
residences
in
Evanston
volunteers
from
the
action
team
have
spoken
at
the
City
of
Evanston's
equity
and
empowerment,
committee
and
I
believe
also
at
this
committee.
A
question
that
has
been
raised
about
is
why
a
local
resolution
is
necessary,
given
that
Evanston's
General
Assembly
members,
gen
GaN,
Gershowitz,
Laura,
fine
and
myself
already
support
a
medical
aid
in
dying
law.
B
Here's
the
answer-
Evanston's
voice,
is
important
when
I
stand
up
in
Springfield
to
urge
the
passage
of
a
medical
aid
in
dying
law,
my
voice
will
be
far
stronger
if
I
can
point
out
that
my
hometown
supports
me,
as
demonstrated
by
its
passage
of
a
local
resolution.
Similar
resolutions
were
key
to
the
passage
of
a
similar
law
in
California
and
to
the
progress
of
the
legislation
in
other
states
where
bills
are
pending.
B
This
is
why
I
hope
the
Evanston
City
Council
will
pass
a
local
resolution,
urging
the
Illinois
General
Assembly
to
make
our
state
the
next
to
make
this
humane
compassionate
option
available
to
its
terminally
ill,
mentally,
capable
adult
residents
Illinois
deserves
to
have
medical
aid
in
dying
available
among
the
other
lawful
end
of
life
options.
As
you
know,
if
we
pass
this
here,
there
can
be
other
municipalities
that
will
look
to
us
and
will
pass
this
the
same
types
of
resolutions.
B
D
D
D
This
is
meant
to
be
an
option
for
those
who
feel
that
this
is
appropriate
for
them
I
devote
time
energy
and
effort
to
the
ever-so
part
of
the
Everson
action
team,
because
I
believe
that
we
need
to
ensure
equity
for
any
individual
at
the
end
of
life,
particularly
for
black
and
people
of
color.
In
the
in
the
community,
I
ask
you
to
approve
the
full
City
Council
consideration
of
14
r20
and
ultimately
pass
the
resolution.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
attention
for
this
important
matter
of
life
or
death.
Thank
you.
Thank.
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A
E
D
E
At
progress
Center
for
Independent
Living
in
Forest,
Park
I'm,
also
a
member
of
not
dead.
Yet
an
organization
that
opposes
doctor-assisted
suicide
I'm
here
tonight
to
oppose
Evanston's
proposed
suicide,
ordinance
studies
that
legalizes
assisted
suicide,
pose
significant
dangers
to
people
with
disabilities.
On
October,
9th
2019,
the
National
Council
on
disability
released
the
findings
of
a
federal
examination,
the
county's
suicide
laws
and
the
effect
on
people
with
disabilities.
Finding
the
loss,
safeguards
are
ineffective
and
oversight
of
abuse
and
mistakes
is
absent.
E
E
E
E
A
G
D
H
Hello,
my
name
is
Ann
Gunther
and
I'm
very
honored
to
be
here
tonight
to
express
my
opinion
and
those
of
many
other
people
with
disabilities
throughout
the
suburbs
about
what's
going
on
in
terms
of
assisted
suicide
or
voluntary
euthanasia,
or
in
some
cases
it
might
actually
be
the
medical
assistance
in
dying
right.
The
medically
I
am
a
person
with
disabilities.
I
was
in
hospice
for
about
three
months
this
year,
this
past
year
and
I
had
to
fight
my
way
out
of
hospice
to
get
back
into
the
real
world.
H
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
people
know
that
it
is
the
medical
options,
aren't
in
and
of
themselves
a
way
to
achieve
what
it's
hoped
by
this.
The
image
of
this
current
assisted
suicide
phase
throughout
the
the
country,
assisted
suicide,
only
works
if
you
actually
want
to
die
and
can't
do
it
yourself.
But
if
you
can't
do
it
yourself,
how
are
you
sure
that
you're
communicating
what
you
want
to
someone
else?
That's
the
big
problem.
H
If
you
look
up
the
types
of
assistance
that
can
happen
in
terms
of
of
getting
people
help,
if
there
are
five
different
types,
there's
the
type
of
voluntary
assistance
where
a
competent
person
makes
voluntary
and
enduring
request
to
be
helped.
I
can
tell
you
that
it
takes
a
lot
of
help
to
get
even
across
that
enduring
request
to
stay
well.
H
How
can
someone
who
is
sick
fight
off
an
opinion
of
someone
else,
a
doctor
who
tells
you
that
you're
dying
and
then
you
have
to
find
out
the
veracity?
And
then
you
have
to
be
a
pastor
depression
pass
through
the
anger
and
still
come
out
on
the
other
side
and
and
deal
with
it.
If
we
don't
have
this
community
services,
the
psych
support
that
are
intact
to
help
people
with
the
positive
side
of
I
want
to
live.
H
H
What
I'd
like
to
say
today
is
that
it's
a
slippery
slope
between
going
from
voluntary
assistance,
where
you're
asking
for
assistance
to
having
somebody
into
your
life
by
not
taking
necessary
actions
to
support
your
life,
so
people
who
are
voluntarily
assisting
you
to
take
the
drugs
and
then
putting
my
life
down,
because
I
don't
have
under
standing
that,
what's
going
to
be
happening
to
me,
is
going
to
kill
me
and
downright
to
absolute
murder,
were
you're
doing
something
against
my
will.
How
do
we
measure
this?
H
How
do
we
as
a
society
address
that
slippery
slope
who's
going
to
enforce
the
fact
that
their
cell
might
be
somebody
out
there
who
doesn't
understand
and
who's
willing
to
help
me
kill
myself,
but
is
not
willing
to
help
me
get
the
psychiatric
help?
The
physic
will
help
the
home
services
help
that
I
need
in
order
to
live
a
good
life.
It's
not
necessarily
the
diagnosis
of
terminal
illness
that
gets
you.
H
It
may
be
the
very
help
that
you're
asking
for
that
will
trap
you
into
it
into
something
that
you
aren't
wanting
to
have
assisted
suicide
can
be
immoral.
It
can
be
very
bad
if
you're
asking,
if,
if
you
are
asking
for
help,
should
the
person
who
is
offering
to
give
you
your
help.
How
are
they
trained
to
deal
with
your
issues?
Are
they
a
trained
psychiatrists?
You
know
that
you're
depressed
I
think
are
they
over
able
to
evaluate
your
psychiatric
and
your
intellectual
ability
to
make
determinations?
H
All
these
things
that
are
talked
about
is
Givens
of
an
enduring
request.
Was
it
one
night?
Was
it
a
month
nights
of
I'm
saying
you
wanna
die?
Who
determines
those
and
the
system
is
not
in
place
to
can
do
all
those
things
at
once
and
I
hesitate
to
state
that
we
can't
do
it
right
now.
I'd
love
to
have
everybody,
have
a
choice
to
be
independent
throughout
their
entire
life
and
choose
when
to
end
it.
H
But
if
we
have
that-
and
it
works
it's
great,
but
if
it
doesn't
work,
it's
horrific
and
it's
deadly
and
immoral
and
I
want
people
to
think
twice
about
that
before
they
pass
it.
When,
indeed,
we
already
have
systems
in
place
for
legal
documentation.
We
have
all
these
other
things
that
are
there.
That
are
there
because
it's
still
illegal
to
kill
someone.
F
You
I
am
John
Lyon,
burger
I,
am
the
minister
chaplain
at
Three,
Crowns
Park
retirement
community
here
in
Evanston
and
I
want
to
say
at
the
outset
that
medical
aid
and
dying
is
only
for
the
terminally
ill
and
nobody
else
and
that's
strictly
regulated
in
the
20
years
of
his
existence,
starting
in
Oregon.
There
has
never
been
any
substantiated
case
of
an
abuse
of
that
imperative.
F
At
the
beginning
we
talk
about
what
their
fears
of
death
and
dying
are,
and
always
it
is
not
the
act
of
dying.
It
is
the
dying
of
painful
death.
Death
doesn't
scare
them,
but
dying.
A
painful
death
does
nearly
all
of
them,
not
all,
but
nearly
all
of
them
want
this
kind
of
option
to
allow
them
the
autonomy
to
make
their
own
decisions
about
their
own
lives.
F
I
do
a
lot
of
one-on-one
counseling,
as
you
can
imagine,
both
the
families
and
the
residents
I
never
bring
this
up,
because
it's
not
an
option
that
the
state
can
offer
them
at
this
point,
but
if
they
bring
it
up,
we
talked
about
it
and
almost
universally.
They
would
like
this
option
to
have
the
autonomy
of
deciding
their
own
lives.
F
Every
religion
I
know
of
places
compassion
right
at
the
top
of
how
people
are
meant
to
treat
each
other
I,
see
medical
aid
and
dine
as
a
logical
and
natural
and
necessary
addition
to
the
resources
that
are
already
in
place
to
help
people
do
that
things
like
pulsed
DNR
and
the
five
wishes.
Those
are
the
ones
I'm
most
familiar
with,
and
the
intention
of
all
of
these
directives
is
to
allow
the
person
as
much
autonomy
as
possible.
The
key
concept
to
remember
that
if
it
is
passed,
it
is
an
option.
It
is
not
a
mandate.
F
A
F
A
nationwide
survey,
seventy
percent
of
the
people
surveyed
said
they
wanted
to
die
at
home.
70
percent
of
the
people
do
not
die
at
home;
they
die
in
hospitals
or
nursing
facilities.
What
we
found
is
that
in
Oregon
and
Washington,
nearly
90
percent
of
the
people
who
are
in
this
program
diet
home
fulfilling
their
wish.
So
that's
just
another
component
of
this,
so
I
obviously
do
encourage
you
to
give
this
very
serious
thought
and
pass
it
along
to
the
full
council.
Thank
you.
Thank.
G
That's
your
right
without
feeling
something
in
your
heart,
without
feeling
compassion
and
I
actually
support
what
you
said
about
how
people
need
to
be
supported
in
their
desire
and
and
fight
to
live.
This
isn't
I,
don't
think
about
that.
I
also
support
the
idea
that
people
need
protection
against
misuse.
G
The
last
thing
I
want
to
say
about
what
was
previously
said
is
that
this
is
not
suicide.
It's
not
assisted
suicide.
People
who
commit
suicide
have
made
a
decision
to
end
their
lives.
The
people
we're
talking
about
and
this
replies
to
their
lives
are
ending.
They
have
no
choice
about
that.
They
are
terminally
ill
and
they
are
going
to
die.
What
we
are
talking
about
is
is
how
they
die.
G
One
of
the
things
that
I'm
a
clinical
psychologist
and
one
of
the
things
I
know
from
my
work
as
a
psychologist,
is
that
one
of
the
things
that
we
hate
and
fear
the
most
is
a
loss
of
autonomy
and
when
people
are
terminally
ill
at
the
end
of
their
lives.
Eventually,
they
are
confronted
with
a
profound
loss
of
autonomy
in
nearly
every
aspect
of
their
lives,
and
this
can
create
intense
and
overwhelming
anxiety.
G
So,
knowing
that
one
has
the
power
to
hasten
an
inevitable
end,
can
reduce.
We
just
heard
about
the
physical
anguish
I'm,
talking
about
reducing
the
emotional
anguish,
anguish
and
providing
peace
of
mind
in
the
face
of
fear
and
impending
total
loss,
loss
of
everything,
loss
of
life
so
terminally
ill,
people
cannot
forestall
their
death,
but
they
can
potentially
Forshaw
forestall
the
anxiety
and
terror
of
utter
powerlessness
that
they're
dying
evokes
so
I
hope
that
you'll
support
the
resolution
to
give
those
who
would
want
it.
G
I
Fleming
has
advocated
program
directive
funding
and
competing
priorities
for
well
established,
needs
and
solutions,
sensitive
to
social
justice
in
hs1
departments,
and
you
say
only
departments,
but
you
list
communities.
Committees
can
be
designated
and
forms
created
for
specialized
program
donations,
for
example,
the
arts
donation
form
will
go
to
the
public
art
subcommittee
and
then
it
will
go
to
the
Arts
Council
again,
you
have
the
header
of
department,
so
clarify
that
and
then
I
go.
I
So
the
homelessness
prevention
fund,
application
forms
can
go
to
homelessness
and
housing,
kymmie,
devise
criteria
and
process,
perhaps
via
subcommittee
with
the
equity
and
empowerment
commission
to
include
social
justice.
That
seems
to
be
a
really
really
great
partnership.
I
know
it's
being
done
now
with
the
environmental
board,
improving
the
application
process
and
this
essential
health
and
human
service
function
would
grow
or
the
department
would
grow
home
ownership
benefits
and
community
and
preserve
community.
I
So
that's
it.
Thank
you.
I'll
submit
this
and
hopefully
clarify
it.
Last
sentence:
oh
and
then
one
more.
If,
if
not
now,
can
the
donation
policy
add
provision
to
allow
and
identify
future
donation
funding
programs
as
committees,
commissions
and
City
Council
recommends
so
I'm
saying?
If
you
can't
do
it
right
now,
because
you're
in
a
hurry,
then
please
add
the
provision
that
you
can
add
committees
and
which
committees
can
add.
You
can
decide
as
a
City,
Council,
so
I
hope
I
keep
that
was
look.
I
was
okay.
I
A
J
All
right,
good
evening,
chair
members
of
the
committee,
Shaniqua
Holman,
Kirk
I,
am
a
management
fellow.
So
today
I'm
just
giving
you
a
brief
update
on
the
donation
policy.
We
started
this
back
and
I
want
to
say
early
summer,
but
of
course
we
had
to
talk
to
the
different
departments
make
sure
we
understood
what
is
being
donated
to
the
city,
so
we
just
generated
based
off
of
that
how
we
can
tackle
making
sure
whether
we
can
agree
to
certain
donations
or
refuse
them.
J
So
here
we
go
so
the
purpose
of
the
donation
policy
is
to
provide
a
criteria
and
process
for
the
acceptance
of
the
donation,
give
the
city
the
ability
to
accept
donations.
That's
needed
in
this
capacity
made
to
maintain,
allow
for
department,
heads
to
delegate
authority,
accept
or
spend
donations
within
the
scope
therein.
J
So
the
definition
as
we've
defined
it
for
the
city.
It's
going
to
be
our
cash
or
in-kind
contributions
which
provide
assistance
to
the
city.
Donations
do
not
constitute
a
business
relationship,
since
no
reciprocal
consideration
is
sought,
donations
generally
qualify
for
a
tax
receipt,
so
that's
in
there
as
well,
so
the
process
for
the
donation
policy.
Is
you
see
at
the
bottom?
We
have
an
asterisk.
We
do
want
to
make
sure
that
people
are
not
confused.
The
donation,
policy
and
application
form
does
not
apply
to
the
reparations
fund.
J
That
is
going
to
be
a
different
acceptance
process.
So
I
just
want
to
put
that
out
there,
but,
as
you
see
up
here,
you're
gonna
have
the
person
will
go
in
they'll,
select
the
type
of
donation
so
entering
the
amount
and
there'll
be
our
application
online.
But
this
is
just
a
breakdown
of
how
that's
going
to
go.
Then
there's
the
different
forms
for
the
arts
donation,
the
miscellaneous
donations
memorial
tree
form
and
then
there's
going
to
be
a
memorial
bench,
form
two
different
ones,
but
they're
all
going
to
go
within
the
public
works
department.
J
The
arts
donation
I
do
want
to
add
that
that
will
then
go
to
public
art
subcommittee
and
then
from
there
it
will
go
to
the
Arts
Council
and
then
they
will
decide
whether
what
are
they
would,
what
donations
from
art
they
will
accept,
but
will
not
accept
and
I
covered
that
early,
but
donors
will
submit
the
form
to
the
department
head.
So,
like
I
said,
let's
just
hypothetically
say
it's
something
for
Parks
and
Rec,
then
parks
and
recs.
J
Once
they
fill
out
the
form
they
will
receive
that
and
then
they
can
decide
whether
they
will
accept
that
donation
or
they
will
not.
If
the
department
head
approves
the
donations
that
have
contacts,
the
donor
to
schedule,
donation,
installation
and
other
details,
as
I
stated
earlier,
the
yards
donation
will
be
will
go
to
the
public
art
subcommittee
and
then
over
to
the
Arts
Council.
Any
questions
sure.
K
A
K
K
But
we
just
in
dealing
with
the
various
plaques
and
street
naming
we
have
a
process
that
people
are
sort
of
we've
been
struggling
with
a
little
bit
of
not
struggling,
but
certainly
discussing
at
this
committee
for
a
long
time.
So
I
appreciate
you
know
you're
coming
back
here,
but
I
think
we
need
to.
We
need
to
have
the
council
a
little
bit
more
involved
so
that
things
don't
get
started
and
folks
are
making
the
assumption
that
something
is
going
to
be
to
occur
without
the
count
all
aware
of
it.
K
L
I
had
one
of
those
same
questions:
I
was
just
gonna
ask
if
there
was
a
report,
but
for
the
things
that
are
listening
here
there
weren't
coming
to
the
council.
My
suggestion
would
be
there
we
some
kind
of
report
but
I'm
fine.
If
everything
comes
to
us,
I
mean
I,
don't
know
how
many
donations
we
get
now
assume
it's
not
gonna
clog
up
our
agenda,
but
these
donations,
but
I
had
a
I.
Think.
That's
read
in
here
for
the
art
that,
after
to
go
to
the
Arts
Council,
will
come
here
I.
L
That
would
be
something
I'd
be
interested
in
for
public
art
installation
that
we
definitely
have
an
idea.
What
that
looks
like-
and
my
other
question
was
regarding
number
five
or
talked
about
zoning
and
procedure
approvals-
I
could
have
just
read
this
wrong,
but
5-1
says
conditions,
contributions
and
public
benefit
may
only
be
requested
from
an
applicant
seeking
zone
and
approval
from
the
city.
Such
requests
are
permitted
or
required
by
that
decision-making
process
for
zoning
approval,
so
I
guess
I
just
needed
some
clarification.
L
What
that
is
when
you're
going
through
zoning,
if
you
have
I,
just
need
to
hear
kind
of
what
that
it's
going
through
zoning,
you
can
make
a
donation
before
or
after
I
mean
it
I,
don't
want
to
make
sure
we're
not
getting
into
sticky
waters
where
someone
is
making
a
and
I
know
it
says
you
cannot
have
been
concurrently,
but
I.
Just
think.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
language
is
very
clear
that
you
cannot.
You
know
before
after
you
go
through
zoning,
that
you're
giving
us
some
large
gift.
C
Was
interested
in
that
same
provision
that
alderman
Fleming
mentions
and
also
comparing
it
with
item
seven
point
four
that
talks
about
sort
of
makes
a
distinction
between
an
applicant
seeking
approval
for
some
kind
of
zoning
versus
an
applicant
who's,
merely
seeking
planning
approval.
I
guess
I'd,
like
that.
Oh.
C
Right
yeah,
just
because
it
what
one
says
you
can't,
we
can't
accept
a
gift
if
it's
tied
into
the
zoning
approval
process.
But
if
it's
planning
approval,
then
it's
a
simply
advise
us
but
and
I
and
I
guess
it
seemed
to
me
there
were
a
number
of
sort
of
more
kind
of
editorial
suggestions.
I
would
have,
and
so
should
we
maybe
submit
that
to
you
rather
than
try
to
talk
through
them
all.
C
A
A
A
Rights
been
properly
moved
and
seconded
before
we
get
started.
I
just
first
want
to
thank
all
the
people
that
came
out.
I
have
to
be
honest
in
all
that
we
have
to
vote
on
this,
and
resolutions
like
this
are
not
something
we
take
lightly
and
I
want
to
make
a
statement,
because
unfortunately,
I
didn't
have
an
opportunity
to
read
this
before
it
went
public,
and
my
personal
statement
is
the
person
that
approached
me
to
ask
for
this
to
be
reconsidered.
A
A
My
personal
feelings
are
always
trumped
by
the
right
of
the
people
to
have
a
voice
in
any
conversation
as
it
relates
so
I
just
hope
that
you
can
respectfully
understand
my
position
in
I
think
it's
important
that
it
goes
to
Council,
but
based
on
my
spiritual
beliefs
and
cultural
beliefs.
I'm
not
in
favor
of
this,
and
so
I
hope
that
we
can
move
forward
with
a
conversation.
But
I
did
feel
that
it
was
important
to
share
that
and
we'll
take
the
lights
out
in
Fisk.
K
Thank
You
mr.
chair
for
that
statement,
so
I
was
chair
of
Human
Services
when
this
first
came
and
we
had
a
conversation
and
the
struggle
that
we
had
at
that
meeting
was
what
what
is
the
role
of
not
only
this
committee,
but
the
City
Council
in
passing
along
this
resolution
or
I
may
say
any
resolution
I
certainly
understand
both
positions
that
we
heard
tonight.
K
But
I
don't
think
my
opinion
has
really
changed,
even
though
I've,
given
this
a
lot
of
thought,
I,
don't
think
it's
appropriate
at
this
committee.
This
is
not
something
that
our
City
Council
has
any
jurisdiction
over
I
wish.
A
representative
gable.
We're
still
here.
I
would
have
some
quest
for
her.
Obviously,
she
has
strong
support
to
take
to
the
state,
and
that's
where
this
belongs
is
at
the
state
and
not
at
the
city.
K
We
can't
make
a
decision
here
to
allow
within
the
borders
of
Evanston
the
option
that
you're
seeking
it
just
doesn't
exist
for
us.
I
I
do
think
that
I'm
very
happy
with
the
idea
that
you
would
that
you've
started
the
discussion
in
the
community
and
that's
where
I
think
that
discussion
ends
up
I
I
I
want
to
everyone
to
understand.
K
I
mean,
if
you
think
about
think
about
the
news
report
on
PBS,
so
news
report
on
PBS.
You
have
people
there
on
both
sides
of
an
issue.
They
talk
about
the
issue
and
then
you
as
a
viewer,
can
make
up
your
mind.
We
have
your
advocacy
and
that's
that's
very
strong
and
and
and
you've
been
very
reasonable
about
that,
and
we
also
have
the
the
other
side
that
has
raised
issues
that
are
extremely
serious.
K
What
I
said
at
that
meeting
over
a
year
ago?
I
think
it
was
that
I
don't
feel
with
the
information
that
we
have,
that
this
is
something
that
I
can
make
an
informed
decision
on,
and
especially
since
at
that
time,
some
of
you
who
were
here
may
remember
that
we
asked
Yvonne
to
Thomas,
who
was
our
director
that
time
to
come
up
and
tell
us
where
what
opinion
our
staff
might
have
where
the
department
might
have
on
this,
and
she
was
not
able
to
do
that,
because
we
didn't
ask
staff
to
research
this.
K
We
didn't
expend
money
for
staff
to
research
this
and
it
is
not.
It's
so
I
feel,
like
I'm,
being
asked
to
make
a
personal
decision
and
explain
that
personal
decision
to
the
8,000
people
who
are
registered
voters
or
live
in
my
ward
and
I.
Don't
have
that
information
to
do
that.
So,
if
we're
going
to
go
ahead-
and
this
is
why
I
referred
it
to
the
Rules
Committee,
if
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
consider
resolutions
like
this,
then
we
need
to
decide
what
information
that
we
need.
K
K
K
But
if
it's
something
that's
important
to
the
community,
we
probably
we
need
to
do
that
and
that's
where
all
of
you
can
come
in
and
we
have
hopefully
a
decision
on
how
we're
going
to
approach
these
resolutions.
But
right
now,
I
am
I,
feel
absolutely
unqualified
to
make
a
major
decision
I
understand
where
you're
all
coming
from
and
I
understand
that
this
is
really
important
and
I.
All
of
us
have
been
in
positions
where
we
can
empathize
with
the
need.
K
Don't
think
that
this
resolution
is
is
properly
in
front
of
either
this
committee
or
the
City
Council
until
we
make
a
decision
as
a
council
on
whether
or
not
we're
going
to
be
considering,
resolutions
over
which
we
have
some
input,
so
I
would
say
to
to
representative
gable
that
it
she's
doing
a
fantastic
job
in
reaching
out
and
getting
everyone
involved
and
talking,
and
she
can
do
that
and
take
your
atmos
advocacy
with
her
to
the
state
and
say
these
are
the
people
in
Evanston.
These
are
the
groups
I've
met.
K
What
these
are
the
organizations
I've
met,
what
they
all
support
me
and
therefore
I'm
moving
ahead
with
the
state,
but
it
doesn't
belong.
It
doesn't
belong
here
and
I'm,
really
I'm.
Sorry
to
say
that
I
hope
you'll
all
understand
that
I
have
looked
at
our
you
know
our
rules
and
I,
don't
see
that
this
is
appropriately
here.
So
that's
my
position.
I.
C
Well,
I
think
there
are
three
topics:
I
want
to
touch
on.
One
is
the
issue
of
the
potential
for
abuse.
If
this,
if
medical
aid
and
dyeing
became
an
option
here
and
Hill
in
Illinois
and
alderman
Fisk
has
mentioned
concerns
about
that,
as
have
our
some
of
people
who
spoke
this
evening
and
it's
my
understanding
is
that
you
know:
we've
got
the
state
of
Oregon
that
has
had
medical
aid
and
dying
for
20
years.
C
It's
very
clear
that
it's
only
for
terminate
terminally
ill,
mentally,
capable
adults
with
only
six
months
or
less
to
live.
It
requires
approval
the
involvement
of
two
different
physicians
and
two
different
two
witnesses
who
are
unrelated
to
the
people
involved,
so
it
there
are
multiple
safeguards
in
place
to
ensure
that
this
option
is
exercised
appropriately.
C
The
second
issue
I
want
to
talk
about,
is:
why
should
Evanston
approve
a
resolution
like
this
I've
been
involved
in
a
lot
of
public
policy
advocacy
over
the
years
and
both
at
the
state
level
and
the
federal
level?
And
in
many
many
instances
it
really
takes
the
evidence
of
straw
and
grassroots
support
support
from
citizens
to
gain
the
credibility
in
the
momentum
that
actually
finally
gets
our
state
and
federal
legislators
to
pay
attention
and
make
the
change.
That's
needed
and
I
see
this.
C
The
city
of
Evanston
approving
this
resolution
as
demonstrating
then
that
there
is
strong
support
here
in
the
Evanston
community.
I
have
to
say
a
member
of
the
organization
of
faith.
Layton
came
to
my
seventh
Ward
meeting
just
to
talk
about
this
was
after
our
discussion
in
Human
Services.
She
came
to
present
briefly
the
whole
idea
of
medical
aid
and
dying,
and
the
the
group
was
just
really
really
so
so
pleased
and
impressed
that
we
were
actually
considering
this
and
a
number
of
people
came
up
to
her
afterwards
and
said
they
were
really
glad.
C
Do
you
hear
from
our
on
this,
so
I
do
believe
that
we
have
strong
support
in
the
community
for
our
adding
Evanston's
voice.
That
will
help
strengthen
representative
gables
voice
out
in
springfield
to
make
this
a
reality
for
citizens
in
Evanston,
and
then
the
third
issue
that
alderman
Fisk
has
raised
and
I
agree.
We
need
to
have
some
guidelines
about
what
kinds
of
resolutions
were
going
to
entertain
because
it
can
get
a
little
get
to
be
a
little
much
if
we
don't
have
some
guidelines
and
frankly,
I
would
like
to
have
guidelines.
C
So
when
citizens
come
to
me
and
say,
would
you
please
support?
Would
you
introduce
X
resolution
I
have
a
way
of
saying
well,
this
falls
within
the
kinds
of
guidelines
of
things
that
we're
willing
to
entertain
and
consider.
But
you
know
the
this.
Other
kind
is
not
it's
outside
of
any
kind
of
expertise
we
might
have
so
the
alderman
Fisk
made
the
reference
to
the
rules
committee
before
I
had
a
chance
to,
but
I
was
planning
to
do
that
as
well.
C
I
guess
I
view
this
particular
resolution
as
kind
of
already
in
the
pipeline
kind
of
like
when
a
development
proposal
comes
to
us
and
it
gets
going
through
zoning,
and
then
we
on
the
city
council
has
some
kind
of
ordinance
that
adds
some
new
restriction
or
new
condition.
The
development
proposal,
that's
already
in
the
pipeline,
doesn't,
is
not
required
to
comply
with
that
later
restriction
or
guideline
and
I
guess,
I
think
this
particular
resolution
is
already
underway.
L
Oh
and
there's
so
many
of
you
all
here,
I
would
give
you
my
opinion,
so
I
saw
somewhere
between
Armin,
breakaway
and
ottoman
Fisk
and
that
we
do
have
a
full
council
I
do
think.
This
is
something
that's
you
know
at
the
level
that
should
go
to
the
full
council
I.
You
know
I
vote
a
lot
of
things
forward
to
the
full
council,
because
my
peers
should
have
an
opinion.
They
represent
parts
of
the
city
that
I.
Don't
you
know
my
personal
feelings
are
in
different
of
what
is
best
for
the
people.
L
I
represent
I
do
have
concerns,
and
we
did
talk
about
this
at
the
last
Rules
meeting.
We
had
to
continue
it
about
the
amount
of
resolutions
we
take
care
of
the
council
and
that's
really
only
because,
if
you're
here
on
a
regular
and
I
our
meetings
go
very
very
late
and
there's
a
lot
of
business.
We
unfortunately
don't
get
to
this
one
I.
You
know
it's,
it's
a
tough
one.
Just
for
me
because
again,
it
is
something
that's
way
out
of
my
realm
of
expertise.
L
It
you
know,
I
haven't
polled
people
on
my
ward
necessarily
see
how
they
feel
about
it,
but
it's
also
something
that
as
a
city,
we
just
you
know
whatever
the
state
decides,
we
will
go
ahead
and
do
I
do
understand
how
government
work.
So
you
know
Robin
gable,
has
asked
for
a
resolution,
but
I
just
don't
think
it's
really
within
our
capacity,
and
you
know
I'm
just
not
comfortable.
L
It's
just
not
something
that
I
personally
will
feel
comfortable,
making
a
decision
for
anyone
or
telling
them
what
they
to
do
and
then,
as
a
city
government,
you
know
for
us
the
way
in
so
heavily
on
something
that
again
is
as
ruled
by
the
state
so
I'm
going
to
support
this
going
forward
to
the
council
so
that
you
all
can
have
the
opinions
of
all
of
our
peers,
since
this
is
something
that
would
impact
well.
Could
impact
at
the
state
decide
so
all
of
the
citizens
in
Evanston
and
obviously
whatever
our
state
governing
body
decides?
L
We
of
course
will
implement
and
I
will
work
to
make
sure
that
all
people,
if
this
goes
past,
has
the
option
to
utilize
whatever
services
they
feel
like
our
best
for
themselves
and
their
loved
ones,
regardless
their
income
level,
because
I
would
obviously
have
some
concerns
that
people
were
on
Medicaid
and
Medicare
have
the
same
rights
to
whatever
options
are
available.
As
someone
who
has
private
insurance,
that
would
be
something
that's
very
important.
To
make.
Sure
you
know,
if
implemented
is
something
that
is
available
to
our
people
here
in
Evanston.
L
I
also
do
very
much
respect
the
voice
of
the
people,
who
are
opposed.
I
mean
those
are
things
we
have
to
consider
on
every
decision.
We
make
there's
always
a
a
pro
side
and
a
con
side,
so
I
definitely
respect
them.
I
want
to
hear
and
do
a
little,
my
own
research
in
terms
of
the
people
who
have
opposed
that.
We
don't
really
hear
you
know
from
both
sides
all
the
time
and
again,
this
means
something
that
I
haven't.
L
Personally
had
to
think
through-
or
you
know,
aside
from
what
you
all
have
presented
me-
really
educated
myself,
a
lot
on
I
would
like
to
just
have
some
time
to
think
through
what
the
opposition
has
to
say
about
it
before
it
comes
to
council.
A
So
I
was
just
having
a
conversation
with
the
director
of
the
health
department
and
again
I
wanted
to
look
at
how
this
is
worded
and
so
I'm
gonna
I
come
and
just
trust
that
do
we
need
to
make
that
decision
now.
I
want
to
make
sure
that,
instead
of
recommending
an
adoption
that
we're
moving
this
to
the
council
for
full
council
conversation
and
I,
don't
know
I,
think
I'll
I
mean
I'm,
where
you
are
Alderman
Fleming
with
I.
K
K
L
A
L
C
M
C
A
A
A
L
A
K
A
A
I'd
like
to
move
our,
what
is
this
fraction
tune
of
2019
Health
Board
funded
programs?
In
summary,
other
programs
requested
for
funding
in
2020
report
staff
recommends
the
Human
Services
Committee,
accept
in
place
on
file
the
2019
Mental
Health,
Board,
funded
programs
and
summary
programs
requesting
funding
in
2020.
Is
there
a
report
on
this.
A
A
G
L
Shortly,
all
right
so
I
have
just
for
the
sake
of
following
the
rules.
We
had
two
organizations
that
didn't
miss
the
deadline,
so
I
would
reject
those,
and
then
my
question
has
to
do
with
childcare.
Network
up
Evanston,
they're,
learning,
together
program,
it's
being
funded
at
40%
and
I,
know
for
a
Mental
Health
Board.
They
usually
they
stick
to
around
a
thirty
percent
or
less
threshold
on
funding,
so
that
they're,
not
the
primary
funding
source
I'm
trying
to
get
a
question
answered
there
and
then
also
for
childcare
network
of
Evanston
for
their
scholarship
fund.
L
In
the
description
it
says
they
did
not
apply
for
funding
for
2020
and
I
was
just
trying
to
figure
out.
That
was
like
state
funding
or
what
other
funding,
because
that
one
is
also
at
83
percent.
The
Mental
Health
Board
is
funding
that
more
the
city
of
Evanston
I
guess
is
funding
them.
So
it
just
kind
of
questions
in
terms
of
the
financial,
longevity,
okay,.
A
L
A
C
A
N
Well,
I
currently
manage
the
Health
and
Human
Services
general
assistance
department.
We
provide
financial
assistance
to
low
income
residents
in
need
that
our
general
Assistance
Program
is
a
month-to-month
stipend
that
they
can
qualify
to
go
towards
their
housing
utilities
and
personal
assistance
needs,
and
our
emergency
assistance
is
a
one-time
help
in
a
12-month
period
that
goes
towards
their
rent,
mortgage
or
utilities.
We
also
provide
transportation
cards
as
well
as
gift
cards
to
various
grocery
stores,
for
those
that
are
come
in
seeking
food
assistance.
L
Thank
you,
so
I
had
the
pleasure
of
speaking
to
the
director
today
about
kind
of
program
enhancements
that
was
brought
to
our
attention.
So
I'll
just
make
my
public
comments
here,
which
are
I
appreciate
that
you
kind
of
continue
to
remind
us
since
report
that
affordable
housing
and
transitional
housing
B
continues
to
be
a
problem
here
in
Evanston.
We
know
that
obviously
we're
working
on
as
the
council,
but
it's
good
to
know
that
you
know
for
us
to
hear
what
you
guys
are
seeing
out
in
the
field.
L
F
L
Educational
communities
here
to
really
I
know
we
have
some
clients
who
I've
been
on
for
quite
some
time
and
I
appreciate
that
we
have
the
help
for
them.
But
I'm
always
concerned
about
the
next
pool
of
people
who
are
gonna
come
up
in
the
support,
particularly
what
the
change
is
with
snap
and
all
those
things
that
are
out
of
our
guidelines.
So
I
think
that
I
will
share.
With
this
team.
We
had
a
very
productive
meeting
with
opening
community
colleges
today,
and
they
had
a
lot
of
workforce
ideas
that
some
other
population
can
can
utilize.
N
N
L
So
being
that
we
are
not
part
of
the
township
anymore
and
I
can't
continue
to
say
that,
because
we
don't
have
so
many
of
the
restrictions
of
the
township,
do
you
all
I've
been
interested
to
know
if
you
have
clients
who
come
in,
who
are
maybe
getting
Social
Security,
but
it's
still
not
a
substantial
amount.
I
know
right
now,
if
you
get
in
another
government
subsidy,
you
also
then
cannot
qualify
for
general
assistance,
which
I
think
was
a
township
rule
I'd
be
interested
to
see.
N
Of
the
township
rules
so
I
took
over
the
township
services.
We
did
get
rid
of
that
role
because
they're
in
our
emergency
assistance
manual
it
said
that
if
you
were
receiving
any
other
type
of
government
cash
assistance,
you
were
ineligible
for
our
emergency
assistance
program.
So
we
did
eliminate
that
rule
and
so
now
that
we
have
seniors
coming
in
and
if
they
have
Social
Security
retirement
disability,
we
do
help
them
on
our
Emergency
Assistance
Program.
But.
L
N
C
A
couple
of
questions
so
I
heard
from
a
resident
who
was
interested
in
this
particular
report
and
the
fact
that
our
SNAP
benefits
were
delayed.
I
guess
last
year,
when
the
state
was
taking
its
time,
processing
things
and
the
residents
question
was
well.
Did
Evanston
eventually
get
some
funding
from
the
state
for
to
make
up
for
the
fact
that
we
had
to
provide
that
extra
food
assistance
or.
N
C
N
Functioning
we
meet
with
DHS
quarterly
mm-hmm
every
time
that
we
go
to
the
meetings.
They're
always
reporting
that
there's
a
bit
of
a
delay
in
processing
the
applications
they
have
gotten
better,
so
I
believe
right
now,
it's
like
a
30-day
window,
that's
much
better
than
90
days
right,
yeah,
okay,
okay
and.
N
I
mean
I
will
tell
you
that
the
summer
is
always
one
of
our
peak
times,
so
I
can
have
a
better
idea
of
of
what
our
numbers
are
looking
like
and
what
our
spending
is,
like.
You
know
at
that
point
in
time
summer
and
then
right
after
the
holiday,
so
right
now
working
an
influx
of
applications.
People
coming
in
for
emergency
assistance,
so
those
are
our
peak
times.
I
do
expect
that
will
utilize
most
of
the
the
allocated
funding
for
this
year.
E
L
Wasn't
you
weren't
here
when
I
said
it,
because
it
was
at
the
end
of
one
of
our
meetings
but
I
want
to
thank
you
and
your
team
for
the
excellent
work
you
did
with
the
family
that
I
referred
over
from
the
ninth
war.
You
guys
did
a
fabulous
job
and
really
provided
some
life-saving
support
for
that
family.
So,
thank
you
so
much
for
that.
Thank.
N
L
N
N
D
A
Than
the
township
sure
I
appreciate
you
sharing
that
and
if
I
could
just
build
on
what
alderman
Fleming
has
said
myself
Fleming
in
aldeman
Rainey
through
your
efforts,
have
had
an
opportunity
to
meet
with
our
residents
and
a
few
others
who
participate
in
the
general
Assistance
Program.
Just
asking
those
really
tough
questions
like
how
do
you
feel
that
you've
been
treated?
A
How
has
the
program
helped
you
to
move
forward
in
whatever
difficult
circumstance
and
I've
actually
participated,
I
think
in
to
discussions
and
the
feedback
that
we're
getting
from
our
residents
that
the
program
is
working
there,
appreciative
of
the
efforts
of
staff,
my
observations
of
you
recto
bobo,
and
whoever
else
is
involved
that
they're,
very
professional
and
caring
when
dealing
with
our
most
vulnerable
residents,
so
I
think
that's
I.
Want
you
to
hear
that,
because
you
probably
don't
hear.
A
Thank
you
enough
in
your
day-to-day
interactions,
but
I
don't
receive
many
complaints
at
all
and
in
the
services
that
you
do
and
I
think.
It's
also
worth
mentioning
myself
in
ultimen
fleming
participated
in
a
conversation
with
one
of
our
community
service
partners,
and
just
the
dialogue
that
you
know
took
place
was
meaningful
and
I
think
it
helped
to
close
some
gaps
where
we
had
misunderstanding
and
the
commitment
that
our
staff
has
moving
forward
to
maintaining
that
relationship.
A
H
A
O
O
O
O
O
One
has
been
located,
but
we
also
have
an
issue
of
Robert
crown
being
the
designated
location
for
our
homeless
shelter
being
demolished
in
these
upcoming
weeks.
So
that's
one
of
the
issues
that
we're
having
now
providing
this
designated
shelter
where
we're
going
to
have
a
permanent
location,
and
these
look
at
this
location
will
only
happen
if
the
other
shelters
that
we
have
by
other
community
partners
overwhelmed
overloaded.
So
that's
one
of
the
issues
that
we're
facing
now.
Another
issue
that
we
also
facing
is
how
we're
going
to
staff
this
designated
City
shelter.
O
It's
not
something
that
we've
actually
budgeted
for
for
this
this
year,
but
we,
if
we
ever
happens,
we
are
going
to
rely
on
our
community
partners,
they're
volunteers,
to
you,
staff
right
coverage
for
this
homeless
shelter.
So
that's
pretty
much
the
overview.
The
overview
is
pretty
much
that
we
are
trying
to
see
ways
in
which
we
can
help
our
community,
our
homeless
community,
so
that
they
have
a
place
to
be
when
the
weather
is
inclement
when
our
cold
weather
advisories
issued.
So
are
there
any
questions
so
I.
A
L
The
director
is
so
very
polite.
This
fell
on
my
lap,
so
for
the
last
year,
I
have
been
bugging
the
city
manager
about
my
concerns
with
people
who
don't
have
home
sleeping
outside
in
our
city,
and
it
is,
you
know,
I
think
we
don't
see
them
as
much
as
other
municipalities
do,
but
they
are
there
and
I
have
many
concerns
and
many
nights
of
which
I
think
about
them.
Thankfully,
maybe
not,
thankfully,
with
global
warming.
It
hasn't
been
that
cold
this
year,
but
we
know
last
was
last
year.
L
Two
years
ago
we
had
that
horrific
snow
where
we
had
lots
of
people
and
thankfully,
through
interfaith
our
churches,
have
now
opened
up
every
night
and
also
the
church
were
unfortunately,
young
lady
lost.
Her
life
has
also
opened
up,
but
I
check
in
with
sue
at
interfaith
all
the
time
and
they
are
to
capacity,
even
though
we
are
not
in
frigid
temperatures,
so
I.
The
director
has
been
very
kind
to
kind
of
pick
this
up
and
work
and
try
to
figure
it
out.
He
was
very
accurate.
L
L
As
a
council
can
continue
to
think
about
it.
No
staff
will
continue
to
work
on
it.
We
will
have
to
figure
out
once
the
robber
crown
is
demolished
if
we
have
a
place
and
how
we
go
about
making
sure
you
know
we
are
serving
all
of
our
residents,
whether
they
are
taxpayers
are
not
and
right
now
interfaith
is
doing
the
best
they
can
and
they
tend
to
give
out
trained
cards
and
people
are
right
in
the
Train
throughout
the
night.
L
But
you
know
we
know
that
that
is
not
a
solution
and
we
know
that
the
trains
are
not
always
accommodating
as
well.
So
it's
something
that's
near
and
dear
to
my
heart,
so
I'm
gonna
kind
of
keep
plugging
away
at
this,
and
the
director
has
been
very,
very
kind
to
kind
of
be
thinking
with
me
how
we
can
make
this
happen
and
serve
our
residents
better.
C
Want
to
echo
alderman
Fleming's
thanks,
because
it
is
a
really
important
issue.
We
can't
have
people
sleeping
outside
when
it
gets
that
cold.
I
guess.
My
question
is:
what
exactly
is
our
temperature
at
which
we
consider
it
a
cold
advisory
because
it
says
minus
30
degrees,
Fahrenheit
I
mean
minus
30
degrees.
Fahrenheit
is
really.
F
O
Windchill
factor
is
not
the
actual
temperature,
but
when
you
are
in
a
cold
situation,
what
happens
is
if
you
have
that
cold
hit
against
your
skin,
keep
in
mind
the
skin
produces
heat
right.
So
when
it
produces
that
heat
it
would
it
produces
that
heat
in
order
to
protect
the
skin,
and
when
you
have
a
strong
wind
that
comes
across
the
body.
What
does
from
remove
that
layer
of
protection?
O
O
It's
something
that
we're
taking
a
look
at
that
it
might
not
even
get
to
negative
30,
because
we
can
actually
have
our
own
rules
on
where
we
will
declare
a
cold
weather
advisory.
You
can
do
that.
We
can
decide,
we
will
do
it
at
5
degrees
Fahrenheit.
We
can
decide
that
we
do
it
at
10
degrees,
Fahrenheit,
so
something
that
I'll
work
on
to
come
up
with.
You
know
a
number
L.
L
You
be
willing
to
look
in
here.
We
don't
have
the
snow
and
I
know.
Couple
years
ago
we
had
that
horrible
snow
I,
don't
think
it
was
as
cold,
but
we
had
a
ton
of
snow.
So
maybe
we
need
to
think
about
the
snow
and
then
again
I'm,
not
a
I'm,
not
an
environmentalist,
but
if
things
go
as
people
predict,
we're
gonna
have
some
super
hot
winter.
In
many
summers,
and
that
might
you
know
one
point
become
an
issue
as
well
with
same
thing:
people
sleeping
outside
when
it's
unbearably
hot.
O
K
O
Interfaith,
who
is
a
community
partner
and
historically
they've,
housed
our
homeless
population,
so
each
facility
has
six
facilities
across
the
board
where
each
facility
accommodates
our
homeless
population
for
three
weeks.
So
one
facility
accommodates
for
three
weeks
and
they
can
only
have
coming
in
about
38
individuals.
They
have
about
38
beds,
so
anything
over
that
is
pretty
much
overwhelming.
O
O
O
It's
something
that
I've
also
asked
our
interfaith
manager
about.
You
know
these
other
other
facilities
that
we
can
use
other
faith-based
establishments
that
we
can
use
and
the
answer
has
kind
of
been.
No,
so
you
know
we
can
continue
to
explore
that
Avenue
and
see
what
we
can
get
the
for
right.
Now,
there
really
aren't,
except
for
the
d6.
You
know
that
goes
from
November
to
march
in
each
facility
provides
about
three
weeks
of
accommodation
to
our
homeless
population,
but
you.
K
L
In
the
super
cold
nights
we
had
when
they
I
never
had
that
polar
vortex,
whatever
we
had,
they
had
about
50
people,
and
so,
if
we
say
38
is
capacity
so
maybe
at
the
12,
maybe
it's
15
I
do
know
from
when
I
served
the
homeless
they
kind
of
before
the
night
you
know,
dinner
closes
at
about
6:00
I.
Think
at
most
churches
there
kind
of
decide
if
they're
gonna,
even
try.
Cuz
interfaith
doesn't
open
until
ten.
O
L
E
L
So
that's
three
hours:
you
still
have
to
account
for
your
time,
so
I
think
people
are
kind
of
deciding
if
they're
going
to
go
down
to
the
to
the
city,
or
you
know
they're
trying
to
make
the
best
plan.
So
I
don't
know
how
you
know
it's
hard
to
know
how
many,
although
the
homeless
count
just
happened
with
the
Alliance
to
three
weeks
ago,
some
I
will
ask
for
those
numbers.
They
try
to
count
all
the
homeless,
but
I
think
you
know
it's
hard
to
alright.
L
You
know
we
have
some
folks
sleeping
in
their
cars,
but
yeah
I
think
that
the
churches
would,
you
know,
be
good
I.
Think
the
ones
who
want
to
participate
are
already
participating.
I
know
when
we
had
to
really
Co
whether
some
or
really
pinch,
because
they
have
higher
heat
bills
and
they
don't
necessarily
have
a
higher
congregation
to
pay
those
heat
bills.
So
maybe,
if
we're
gonna
ask
that
that
might
be
something
we
can
help
subsidize
for
them,
because
they
do
have
costs
associated
with
it
as
well.
Right.
K
K
L
K
A
A
A
What
did
I
say?
Thank
you,
sir
appreciate
that
yeah
we
can't
we'll
make
quick
just
all
those
in
favor
of
putting
on
file
the
city,
Evanston
emergency
shelter
for
homeless,
update
item
hs5,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
any
opposed
eyes.
Kerry.
Thank
you
items
for
discussion.
I
thought
you
were
speaking
unless
I
was
like
gesture.
P
Hi,
my
name
is
Laura
Biggs
I'm,
the
city
engineer
I'm
here
tonight
to
just
make
the
committee
aware
of
an
opportunity
that
has
come
up.
Cook
County
has,
through
their
initiative
of
housing,
Cook
County
animals
released
information,
calling
for
grant
proposals
for
a
grant
program
that
they
have
to
do
capital
improvements
at
an
animal
shelter.
They
are
setting
aside
8
million
dollars
to
be
awarded
to
two
or
more
animal
shelter
facilities,
which
would
who
would
do
the
capital
improvements
and
then
enter
into
a
long-term
contract
to
receive
impounded
Cook
County
animals.
P
P
So
the
city
of
Evanston
will
be
partnering
with
the
animal
shelter
association,
but
we'll
be
taking
the
lead
on
the
grant
application,
since
it's
a
capital,
improvement
grant
and
so
I
planning
on
bringing
a
presentation
to
the
February
10th
council
meeting
to
talk
about
it
in
a
lot
more
detail.
But
I
did
want
to
make
this
committee
or
give
this
committee
the
opportunity
to
ask
any
questions
they
might
have
or
if
they
had
any
concerns.
A
K
You
mr.
chair
well,
I
have
talked
to
with
Vicki
pazenko,
who
is
the
director
of
the
VA
o
volunteer
animal
organization.
She
is
confident
and
that
they
can
Dave
Cook
County's
animal
requirements,
as
well
as
the
city
of
Evanston
and
is
actually
very,
very
excited
and
very
supportive
of
our
seeking.
The
grant
I
did
want
to
make
everyone
aware
of
a
letter
from
Larry
suffer
done
that
went
out
today.
K
And
I'll
just
read
it
for
the
record.
This
is
to
Thomas
Wake,
the
administrator
of
the
Cook
County
animal
and
rabies
control
in
Bridgeview.
It's
regarding
the
Evanston
animal
shelter,
a
home
for
Cook
County's
animals
application.
That's
dear
doctor,
wait
I
want
to
express
my
support
for
Evanston
animal
shelters,
application
for
a
home
for
Cook
County
animals
to
help
shelter,
coyotes
stray
animals.
The
Evanston
animal
shelter
and
adoption
center
provides
compassionate
and
humane
care
to
heaven
since
abandoned
abused
and
relinquished
animals
and
works
to
find
them
homes
between
2016
and
2019.
K
The
Evanston
Animal
Shelter
has
taken
care
of
over
two
thousand
two
hundred
and
ninety
animals,
while
posting
a
live
release
rate
of
ninety
seven
percent,
as
the
Cook
County
Commissioner
for
districts
at
thirteen
I
support
the
intent
of
the
Evanston
animal
shelter
in
obtaining
of
grant
funding
to
house
Cook
County's
animals
sincerely
Larry
suffered
him.
So
that's
that's
great.
That's
great
to
get
that
that
support
from
him
and
think
staff
very
much
for
their
work
on
this
as
well
sure.
A
P
So
the
existing
animal
shelter
building
is
deficient
in
a
number
of
ways
which
some
of
which
we
knew
about,
which
is
that
it's
just
too
small
and
that
also
it
does
not
meet
code
requirements
for
an
animal
shelter.
It's
sort
of
grandfathered
in
just
because
it's
been
the
animal
shelter
for
a
while,
but
it
it
basically
some
stuff
that
in
retrospect
seems
fairly
obvious
by
it,
doesn't
have
any
medical
exam
room
or
any
place
for
a
veterinarian
to
come
in
and
do
any
kind
of
metal
medical
exams.
P
It
doesn't
have
isolation
rooms
for
sick
animals,
there's
very
few
windows,
so
most
the
animals
are
never
exposed
to
natural
light
unless
it
happens
to
be
a
dog
that
goes
out
walking
with
a
volunteer
cats
in
modern
day
care,
animal
shelter
facilities,
healthy
cats
are
generally
paired
into
rooms,
so
you
might
have
a
room
with
eight
to
ten
cats
that
get
along
pretty
well
and
so
not
being
confined
to
a
cage.
If
they're
a
healthy
adult
cat
is
considered
the
modern-day
standard,
but
we
don't
have
the
ability
to
do
that.
P
Certain
types
of
kennel
facilities
for
dogs,
so
these
types
of
things
are
again:
none
of
them
are
rocket
science.
We
have
one
room
for
adoption,
so
if
two
people
show
up
to
adopt,
then
one
waits
or
one
goes
outside
with
a
dog
or
one
goes
into
the
bathroom
and
uses
that
as
a
second
adoption
area,
and
these
kinds
of
things
could
really
only
be
fixed
with
a
facility
that
is
designed
to
be
an
animal.
A
P
Still
in
the
works,
but
it
appears
that
it
would
be
a
building
approximately
twice
the
size
of
the
current
animal
shelter.
We
looked
at
trying
to
save
the
animal
shelter
building
and
do
an
addition
on
it.
It
presents
its
own
challenges
and
it
was
causing
a
really
weird
layout
for
the
building
people.
P
A
P
A
Alderman
Fisk
before
you
ask
your
question:
I
do
have
one
concern.
Is
you
mentioned
the
examination
room
so
I'm
curious
to
know
what
type
of
policies
we
would
have
to
create
and
would
be
responsible
for
for
running
that
I
know
we
have
a
volunteer.
That's
it's
I'm
sure
a
number
of
volunteers
that
are
veterinarians
and
I've,
seen
statistics
that
show
how
much
support
that
they
have
for
the
animals
so
I'm
very
curious
to
know
how
that
portion
would
work.
I.
P
Think
currently,
what's
happening
is
that
in
most
cases,
volunteers
from
the
animal
shelter
Association
are
transporting
dogs
and
cats
that
need
veterinarian
care
to
the
offices
of
vets
and
we
actually
still
pay
the
bats.
In
most
cases.
Maybe
we
pay
discounts
or
at
costs,
but
not
always
when
we're
just
paying
vets.
So
we
would
we
not
me
the
Evanston
animal
shelter
association
would
enter
most
likely
into
a
contract
with
a
veterinarian
to
come
on-site
and.
A
K
H
K
Get
them
here,
they're
doing
an
extraordinary
job.
I
mean
the
numbers
of
people
that
they
have
that
are
fostering
and
keeping
the
animals
and
it's
socialized,
and
it's
just
amazing
and
so
I
didn't
want
people
to
think
that
we
were
keeping
animals
in
a
building
with
no
windows
and
locked
in
cages,
because
that's
that's
not
what's
happening
I'm.
If
you
haven't
been
over
to
the
shelter
please
go
over
there
because
the
the
volunteers
are
just
so
enthusiastic
and
so
positive,
I'm,
so
proud
of
them
and
I.
K
B
F
K
P
The
it
would
be
very
challenging
to
continue
to
house
the
animals
on
what
is
essentially
an
active
construction
site,
even
if
we
somehow
phase
it
or
relocate
the
building.
So
it's
not
knocking
down
the
entire
building.
The
issue
really
revolves
around
housing,
dogs
and
kennels,
because
they're
much
more
challenging
than
cages
of
cats,
and
so
we
have
started
kind
of
floating
ideas
with
the
Animal
Shelter
about
how
to
do
that.
If
the
city
of
Evanston
had
a
vacant
property,
a
storefront
that
we
owned,
we
might
consider
maybe
relocating
the
administrative
offices
and
the.
P
Sure
how
available
that
will
be
in
our
time
frame,
but
the
we're
still
working
on?
How
do
we
handle
dogs,
because
that
is
a
challenge.
Dogs
in
kennels
require
more
space
and
are
more
active
than
cats
and
you're
absolutely
right
about
the
animal
shelter
organization.
The
one
thing
this
has
really
given
me
the
opportunity
to
see
is
just
how
amazing
it
is.
P
A
M
Good
evening
mr.
chair
committee,
deputy
city
attorney
nicholas
cummings,
we
are
the
law
department
is
currently
working
with
human
resources
to
modify
the
employee
handbook
and
more
specifically
identify
positions
that
we
would
be
going
to
the
various
unions
to
try
and
negotiate
whether
they
would
be
covered
by
some
look
like
the
current
policy
as
it
is
now
or
if
we
would
have
a
little
more
flexibility.
Given
the
passage
of
recreational
and
medicinal
use
in
illinois.
There's
any
questions.
L
M
A
Me
take
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
just
for
members
of
the
committee
committee,
as
well
as
anyone
who's
listening
to
this,
because
this
is
a
very
charged
topic
and
my
question
to
you,
deputy
attorney,
would
be,
let's
start
with
the
classifications
that
are
now
currently
under
the
old
law,
required
to
be
testing
tested
in
one
of
those
conditions
that
who
they
are
and
what
are
the
conditions
of
why
they're
tested,
if
that
makes
sense.
So.
M
A
M
The
other
classification,
anyone
with
a
CDL
anyone,
that's
covered
by
the
department,
transportation
or
any
other
federal
regulation
or
any
positions
that
receive
federal
funding,
would
the
it
would
stay
the
same
for
them.
Okay,
what
we're
talking
about
is
any
other
positions
that
might
be
non
safety,
sensitive
mm-hmm
that
may
be
covered
by
the
union
or
not
covered
by
the
Union,
but
we
need
to
identify
what
those
are
and
then
look
at
those
job
descriptions
to
ensure
they're,
not
safety.
M
M
So
once
those
like
positions
are
identified.
If
they
are
union
positions,
we
have
to
go
to
the
Union
and
say
because
they
may
have
a
contract.
That
specifically
already
says
zero
tolerance
as
an
example.
So
we
would
need
to
bring
that
to
the
Union
and
see
if
that
can
be
changed
or
if
they're
willing
to
negotiate
over
those
particular
positions,
be
they
safety,
sensitive
or
not.
If
the
union
feels
that
they
are
or
not,
and
we
feel
that
they
are,
or
vice
versa-
that's
where
the
things
what
I'm
talking
about
negotiating
with
the
union
and.
A
M
M
O
A
M
A
So
the
context
and
the
reason
for
my
questions-
and
this
is
prior
to
you
being
here-
there
have
been
staff
that
feels
that
that
testing
and
question
is
somewhat
it
sometimes
weaponized
right.
If
someone
is
looking
for
a
way
of,
they
can
ask
that
back
that
question,
so
I'm
curious,
I
right
now.
It's
all
antidotal
for
me,
I,
want
statistics
and
to
understand
who
we're
currently
testing
right
now,
and
that
will
help
me
as
I'm,
received
as
we
are
receiving
your
information
to
make
good
policy
decisions.
A
L
No,
that's,
okay!
Thank
you
for
them.
Asking
a
more
pointed
question
my
mind.
So
I
said
for
the
last
year.
I
would
love
to
see
it
more
extensive
report
than
that,
because
you
know
year
is
a
year
right,
I'd
like
to
see
if
we
can
get
the
data
together
and
I
think
we
have
I
feel
like
it
came
to
human
services
at
some
other
point,
or
maybe
it
came
to
executive
session,
so
I
would
dare
to
say,
I
would
like
it
to
go
back,
maybe
five
years,
because
I
think
that
gives
us
a
better
idea.
L
If
we're
looking
at
a
pattern
or
not
a
pattern
and
what
that
means.
So
aside
from
so
I
know,
we
have
to
go
to
the
Union
and
when
you
say
safety,
I
understand
what
police
and
fire
and
all
that.
But
would
you
quantify
or
would
you
classify
someone
who
is
a
cashier
at
safety
or
we
talk
about
physical
safety
and
harm
to
another
person,
or
would
you
quantify
accounting
the
house
of
the
dollars
as
a
job
where
you
know
that
would
fall
under
the.
M
L
There,
but
some
people
would
think
that's
you
know,
so
my
other
question
is,
and
so
we
have
non-union
positions
right
and
we
have
the
authority
to
make
some
changes
for
those
people.
So
is
it
currently
the
thought
or
the
direction?
This
is
going
that
you're
going
to
work
with
the
unions
first
and
then
what
the
union
says.
I
will
be
also
implemented
for
our
non-union
or
we
moving
forward
making
them
changes
to
the
policy
for
non-union
employees
to.
L
L
Okay,
so
if
the
union's
say
no,
we
want
everybody
to
follow
zero-tolerance
for
not
doing
anything
else.
What
you're
saying,
then,
is
our
non-union.
Employees
would
still
have
to
remain
zero
tolerance
because
we
could
not
change
our
handbook,
because
if
we
change
our
handbook,
everyone
would
fall
under
that
category,
even
though
our
union
workers
are
not
it.
L
I
just
I'm
looking
for
fair
treatment
right,
so
people
who
are
Union
they
understand
they
there's
some
other
unions
or
things
to
go
along
with
that,
but
our
staff
that
are
non
union
or
non-union
so
just
like
before
you
came
here,
there
were
times
where
we
gave
the
Union
staff
a
reason,
not
the
non-union
stuff.
So
I
know
that
there's
ways
we
can
treat
people
a
little
bit
differently.
M
That's
understandable,
I
think
I'm,
not
saying
that
the
handbook
would
not
be
changed.
I'm
just
saying
that
it
would
take
some
more
time.
For
example,
if
the
unions
say
no
under
your
example,
the
unions
say
no,
we
would
stuff
to
go
in
and
if
we
make
the
decision
for
a
rest
of
the
staff
that
they
would
be
allowed,
we
would
just
need
to
creatively
amend
the
handbook
to
only
include
or
exclude
certain
positions.
Okay,.
L
So
my
other
question
is
and
I
know:
we've
written
meet
that
report.
We
asked
for
I
have
to
deal
with
the
random
testing
but
I'm
more
interested,
also
in
pre-employment
screening,
because
we,
if
I'm
correct,
not
I,
don't
have
the
man
become
friendly
either,
but
we
screen
people
as
they
are
finalists
for
employment
here
and
then.
L
M
One
of
the
challenges
that
I've
discussed
with
HR
is
is
having
familiarity
with
the
science
on
how
we're
testing
for
cannabinoids.
In
my
previous
career
as
a
prosecutor,
the
presence
of
cannabinoids
was
a
yes
or
no
question.
Now
in
the
age
of
legalization
of
cannabinoids,
there
is
a
test
to
determine
a
certain
level,
and
that
is
a
discussion
that
we're
having
with
HR
is
to
determine
the
level
that
someone
can
test
that
and
still
be
fine,
because
the
reality
situation
isn't
in
the.
M
In
the
example
that
was
discussed
was
you
have
an
employee
who
uses
recreation
recreationally
on
the
weekends?
Has
an
incident
on
like
Wednesday
gets
tested
as
a
result
of
this
incident,
and
they
it's
going
to
be
positive
for,
but
the
issue
is
whether
they're,
under
the
influence
of
those
cannabinoids
or
not
at
the
time
of
the
incident,
and
so
there
is
a
test
that
has
been
developed
to
determine
those
levels,
but
I'm
not
familiar
enough
with
science.
For
that
to
be
part
of
what
we
add
into
the
rule
just
yet
and.
L
M
M
M
That
is
definitely
something
that
we
discussed
in
terms
of
addressing
as
the
pre-employment
screening
and
how
we
would
address
that.
One
of
the
suggestions
was
looking
at
how
the
Illinois
State
Police
are
planning
to
enforce
DUI
in
that
level,
whatever
level
that
is
in
terms
of
impairment
but
again
I,
don't
know
if
our
facilities
that
we
contract
with
to
do
testing,
whether
it
be
pre-employment
or
random,
utilize
that
same
procedure
or
science
in
order
to
test
levels.
So
that's
that's
another
issue.
M
A
So
attorney
Cummings
I
think
he's
gonna
do
well
here.
I
want
to
put
my
spin
on
her
question,
so
it's
clear
that
anyone
who
falls
in
classification
of
Union
has
resources.
They
will
have
someone
there
to
advocate
for
them
as
well
defend
whatever
position
just
by
the
mere
fact
that
they
are
in
a
union
correct,
you're,.
A
To
discipline
well
I'm,
just
referring
to
the
conversation.
So
when
you're
in
a
union
you're
in
a
collective
body,
you
have
designee
who
will
advocate
for
your
position
whatever
it
is
after
the
internal
discussion
and,
if
need
be,
unions,
have
the
ability
to
lawyer
up
very
quickly
just
in
terms
of
how
they
choose
to
advocate
I,
think
and
I'm
I.
Don't
want
to
put
words
in
almond,
Fleming's
mouth.
The
question
would
be
for
our
non-union
employees.
So
how
are
you
and
any
other
staff?
That's
interacting
with
them.
As
you
are
shaping
this
policy?
A
Are
we
do
they
have
an
opportunity
to
provide
feedback?
Do
they
have
to
have
an
opportunity
to
provide
feedback
anonymously
where
they
don't
have
to
disclose
whether
or
not
they
choose
to
smoke?
I,
don't
know
if
that's
where
you
were
going,
but
as
you
were
speaking
and
formulating
questions,
that's
what
came
to
mind.
A
So
there
I've
been
approached
by
a
number
of
employees
who,
like
the
freedom
now
of
the
passing
of
the
legislation
but
they're
very
concerned
about
their
jobs
and
I,
just
want
to
make
sure
to
those
who
trusted
to
ask
me
the
question
that
they
will
have
an
opportunity
to
participate
in
some
meaningful
way
to
where
they
can
express
their
thoughts
and
opinions,
as
well
as
the
staff
who
have
to
work
alongside
them.
I
think
for
this
to
be
a
win
to
use
your
words,
it's
a
collaborative
effort
where
we're
listening
to
both
sides.
M
Does
and
I
am
NOT
opposed
to
accepting
that
feedback,
but
understand
that
my
position
as
the
deputy
city
attorney
is
to
do
what's
in
the
best
interest
of
the
city
and
not
necessarily
to
make
judgment,
calls
on
behalf
of
other
people's
lives
sure
or
to
step
into
their
shoes.
I
will
just
say
that
personally,
as
long
as
you
don't
put
the
city
at
risk,
what
you
do
and
your
time
is
your
business
but
I
have
to
protect
the
city.
That's
why
I'm
here
sure
so
I
welcome
certain
feedback.
M
A
Yes,
we
share
the
same
thought,
an
opinion
and
I
would
agree.
I
don't
have
any
judgment
either.
So
my
last
follow-up
question
just
to
clarify
the
testing
I'm
just
applying
the
5w
rule,
so
we
have
five
years
according
to
alderman
Fleming's,
request
and
I.
Think
for
you.
This
should
be
easily
tracked.
So
it's
like
whenever
we
have
an
expense
that
we
go
back
five
years,
it
was
paid
to
a
institution
that
checks
drugs.
A
We
want
to
be
able
to
pull
the
data,
so
I
would
like
to
know
who,
by
position
the
when
you
know
when
are
they
tested?
How
often
as
well
as
how
much
does
it
cost
over
the
last
five
years,
because
if
this
is
something
that
is
I
have
no
idea
how
much
we
spend
on
drug
testing
so
I'm
very
curious
to
know
and
I
think
by
understanding
that
that
gives
us
some
indication
of.
Is
this
going
to
be
a
brand
new
expense
or
not?
A
K
It's
getting
a
little
worried
there.
Yeah
yeah
I
want
to
be
really
careful
that
we
don't
put
forth
anyone's
identity
or
name
I
mean
this
is
just
you
know.
The
general
information
of
yeah.
K
M
A
Like
I,
don't
need
to
know
it's
a
secretary
three,
that's
in
the
health
department.
That
would
be
too
much,
but
I
think
we
know
when
it's
a
truck
driver.
They
go
to
get
tested,
that's
common
knowledge,
so
I
would
assume.
There's
statistics.
It
says
X
amount
of
like
people
in
public
works
are
tested.
That's
I
mean
if
you
want
to
keep
it
as
simple
as
departments
and
that's
fine
I.
F
L
Executive
session
I
think
that
I
asked
for
similar
numbers
and
HR
brought
them
to
executive
session,
which
is
an
appropriate
plate,
Megan,
not
with
names
and
all
but
right,
which
is
an
appropriate
place,
maybe
that
we
we
finish
this
conversation
and
then,
obviously,
when
the
policy
comes
forward,
we
can
come
back
here,
but
I
do
think
us
paying
attention
to.
Some
of
these
numbers
is
important,
so
if
it,
if
it
means
you,
we
have
to
take
it
an
executive
session
which
we
have
the
ability
to
do
in
this
committee,
then
we
can
do
that.
L
We
do
it
with
police
records
as
well
again
with
with
keeping
it
high
level
enough
that
it's
not
personal
but
maybe
more
than
we
can
talk
about
on
this
Dyess
cuz.
My
other
question
for
that,
because
I
didn't
realize
this
until
you
said
it,
so
thank
you
what's
promotion,
so
I
would
be
interested
in
that.
Just
maybe
you
can
even
email
me
that
portion
of
the
employee
manual
they
talked
about
when
you
have
a
promotion
that
you.
A
M
A
A
A
There's:
okay,
please
send
it
to
me
so
I
can
study
be
a
quick
study.
It's
been
interesting.
This
whole
topic
we've
been
having
really
in-depth
technical
conversations.
All
over
towns,
in
various
words,
were
Ward's
from
people
who
are
interested
from
a
business
perspective,
people
that
are
interested
from
medical.
So
now
we're
looking
at
our
staff.
So
that's
the
the
reason
for
the
detail,
questions
so
absolutely.
H
K
M
Not
really
and
to
be
to
be
fair,
any
discussion
regarding
the
numbers
probably
is
best
suited
for
executive
session.
Okay
and
I
questioned
the
propriety
of.
M
K
A
Horton
topics
that
we
discussed
an
evening
said
it
seeing
no
lights.
Is
there
a
motion
to
adjourn
second.