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A
Good
evening
and
welcome
to
the
Monday
March
2nd
human
services
meeting
we
have
a
quorum.
Is
there
approval
for
the
February
3rd
minute
meetings.
B
A
Been
properly
moved
and
seconded,
seeing
no
lights
for
questions
all
those
in
favor
of
passing
the
February
3rd
minutes,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
any
opposed
eyes.
Have
it
I'm
going
to
ask
Ike
if
we
can
take
item
where
is
it
coronavirus?
There's
that
thank
you
items
for
discussion
yep.
Can
we
move
that
to
the
front?
Thank
you.
C
Haggerty,
okay,
thank
you.
Thank
Thank,
You,
alderman
or
chairman
yeah
I
wanted
to
have
the
health
department
director
come
here
tonight
to
talk
about
Curt
the
coronavirus
and
give
this
committee
in
the
city
an
update
on
the
actions
that
are
being
taken.
I've
been
in
a
bunch
of
meetings
with
them
last
week
to
find
out
positively
that
they've
been
in
meetings.
For
you
know
a
couple
months
already
on
this,
but
I've
been
hearing
from
residents.
I
know
other
people
have
up
here,
there's
naturally
some
fear
out
there
about.
D
Good
day,
members
of
the
Human
Services
Committee
Ike
ovo,
director
Health
and
Human
Services
Department
I'm,
here
to
give
a
brief
overview
of
the
corona
virus
situation
in
the
United
States
in
Illinois
and
in
Evanston.
The
information
that
I
will
furnish
tonight
is
going
to
be
an
extension
from
the
press
release
on
Friday.
As
we
all
know,
they
are
confirmed
cases
globally,
including
the
United
States.
So
far,
there
are
excess
of
55
countries
where
there
confirmed
cases
of
the
corona
virus.
D
D
Just
a
few
days
ago,
we
got
two
additional
cases
which
are
presumptive
cases
and
when
you
talk
about
presenting
cases,
these
are
cases
that
have
been
confirmed
in
a
public
health
lab
in
a
state,
but
it's
pending
a
confirmation
test
from
CDC,
but
they
didn't
stop
the
Illinois
Department
of
Public
Health
and
the
Cook
County
Public
Health
Department.
To
respond
to
the
situation
where
this,
these
individuals
are
isolated
and
CDC
protocols
are
implemented
so
far
in
Evanston.
D
So,
due
to
this
reason,
these
international
destinations
have
experienced
what
we
call
a
community
spread
and
what
a
community
spread.
Pretty
much
means
is
one
per
person
who
got
an
infected
but
does
not
know
where
they
got
the
infection
from,
so
they
can't
really
pinpoint
where
they
got
the
infection,
so
in
the
United
States,
even
though
the
immediate
risk
to
coronavirus
still
remains
low.
D
When
it
comes
to
the
community
spread,
we
have
experienced
a
number
of
states
where
there
has
been
limited
communication,
yeah
and
Washington
State
so
outbreaks
of
this
nature,
of
course,
as
a
public
health
concern,
there's
still
a
lot
of
information
that
we
are
still
about
to
learn
about
this
virus.
Keep
in
mind.
This
is
a
very
new
virus
that
we
have
not
seen
before.
We've
seen
viruses
within
coronavirus,
family
like
SARS
and
Mars,
but
when
it
comes
to
this
particular
corona
virus,
we
have
not
seen
it
before
so
investigations
are
underway.
D
Research
is
on
the
way
to
learn
more
about
this
virus
to
know
about
the
profile
of
this
virus.
The
courser
richness
of
this
virus,
how
it
spreads
and
if
there
any
medical
countermeasures
for
this
virus,
so
the
information
about
this
virus
is
pretty
much
based
on
information
of
other
corona
viruses
that
we
had
to
deal
with,
which
one
Mars
and
saw
so
they're
using
that
same
approach
to
respond
to
this
particular
particular
virus.
D
But
at
this
time,
like
I
mentioned,
the
possibility
of
getting
infected
in
United
States
according
to
the
Illinois
Department
of
Public
Health
and
CDC
is
pretty
low.
So
what
does
this
mean?
If
there
is
a
wide
expansion
of
this
virus
in
our
community,
it
will
disrupt
schools,
cancellation
of
gatherings
it
might
overwhelm
our
public
health
systems
in
our
hospital.
So
these
are
things
that
we
have
to
keep
in
mind.
D
If
there
is
a
community
spread
of
coronavirus
in
Evanston,
so
this
virus
does
not
have
any
vaccines,
nor
does
it
have
any
antiviral
drugs
that
one
can
actually
take
to
combat
the
issue.
So
what
has
been
recommended
by
CDC
and
the
Illinois
Department
of
Public
Health,
or
what
we
call
NPI's
dose
stand
for
non-pharmaceutical
interventions.
Those
are
things
that
we
can
do
on
a
daily
basis
to
avoid
the
spread
of
the
corona
virus.
D
Things
are
simple
as
washing
your
hands
for
20
seconds,
and
if
you
don't
have
any
soap
or
water
is
recommended
that
you
can
use
a
hand
sanitizer
that
has
62
about
95
percent
of
alcohol,
not
only
that
try
to
avoid
being
in
close
proximity
of
people
who
are
sick,
not
only
that
they
also
recommend
in
for
you
to
disinfect
surfaces
like
counter
tops,
doorknobs
phones,
whatever
also
another
recommendation-
is
for
those
who
experiencing
symptoms
to
stay
at
home.
I.
D
Think
that's
one
of
the
most
important
factors
here
that,
if
you
are
experiencing
any
of
these
symptoms,
to
stay
at
home,
so
also
I
just
want
to
highlight
some
of
the
things
that
CDC
has
done,
which
I
think
has
tremendously
resulted
in
this
disease
being
contained
to
the
level
it
has
been.
So
when
we
got
a
notice
of
this
disease
in
China,
the
CDC
and
other
agencies,
they
sprang
into
action
and
one
of
the
things
that
they
did
was
establish
a
travel
restriction
to
areas
where
there
are
sustained
confirmed,
corona
cases.
D
China,
being
one
is
been
ill,
elevated
to
the
highest
level.
At
this
point,
foreign
nationals
and
all
allowed
into
country
who've
experienced
been
in
China
for
14
days,
because
that's
the
incubation
period
incubation
period
for
the
coronavirus
is
to
the
14
days
for
us
residents
and
u.s.
citizens
who
have
been
in
China
for
about
14
days
are
allowed
into
the
country,
but
we
have
to
undergo
modern,
trained
and
possible
quarantine.
Just
a
few
days
ago,
the
same
travel
restriction
was
extended
to
Iran.
D
So
currently
we
have
about
four
countries
that
have
been
elevated
to
level
3
by
includes
Italy,
Iran,
China
and
South
Korea.
So
what
has
the
city
of
Evanston
done?
We
have
done
quite
a
number
of
things
to
prepare
ourselves
in
an
event
of
the
coronavirus.
We
have
engaged
our
local
hospitals.
They
are
prepared,
Everson
Hospital,
for
example.
They
have
a
detailed
plan
in
an
event
that
we
get
the
coronavirus
here
it
in
in
Evanston,
we've
been
monitoring
and
maintaining
situational
awareness
with
CDC
in
IDPH,
we've
been
working
with
them
very
closely.
D
D
Just
the
other
day
we
had
a
meeting
with
some
of
our
schools
and
not
just
that.
This
week
we're
gonna
be
having
a
meeting
with
Northwestern
to
discuss
their
strategies.
We've
talked
to
some
of
our
homeless
institutions
here
in
in
Evanston
about
what
their
plans
will
look
like.
We
are
gonna
have
a
meeting
with
our
MRC
DS
or
medical
resort
coops.
D
These
are
professionals
whom
we
have
to
activate
in
a
case
of
a
public
health
emergency,
to
discuss,
planning,
strategies
and
other
activities,
and
not
only
that
we
are
determining
whether
individuals
fit
what
we
call
PU
eyes.
These
are
people
under
investigation.
These
are
people
who've
experienced
some
type
of
symptoms
that
we
have
to
monitor,
but
so
far
so
good.
We
do
not
have
any
cases
here
in
Evanston.
Just
this
morning
we
had
a
meeting
with
the
directors,
our
various
health
departments
in
the
region.
D
B
D
B
D
Absolutely
the
website
that
we
we
have
is
actually
on
the
Health
and
Human
Services
website
any
also
has
links
to
CDC
websites
and
the
IDPH
website
as
well,
where
it
illustrates
the
travel
restrictions.
What
you
should
do,
what
you
shouldn't
do
and
in
regards
to
the
mask,
the
CDC
recommendation
is
for
people
who
are
experiencing
symptoms
to
wear
the
mask,
not
people
who
actually
well.
So
we
have
that
information
on
the
website.
Thank.
E
C
D
We
had
our
meeting.
We
we've
also
said
what
I
fail
to
mention
that
we
also
have
a
world
response
team.
We
call
it
a
corona
response
team.
We
had
a
meeting
today
and
we
discussed
a
number
of
agencies
and
entities
that
we
need
to
reach
out
to
rotary
is
one
of
them
that
our
homeless
community
is
one
of
them.
Our
long-term
care
facilities
are
actually
one
of
them
as
well,
so
we'll
be
reaching
out
to
them
within
the
week
right.
D
A
D
That
would
be
a
conversation.
I'll
have
with
the
facilities
manager
to
discuss
supplies
sanitizers.
We
do
receive
a
number
of
grants
from
the
state
in
regards
to
emergency
preparedness.
So
we're
gonna
be
looking
in
that
angle
as
well
to
ensure
that
we
have
what
we
need
in
order
to
stay
safe.
But
to
your
point,
it's
a
question
that
I
would
have
to
refer
to
our
facilities
manager
to
see
how
we
can
implement
that
can.
A
A
A
F
Evening,
non-agenda,
along
with
campaign
priscilla
giles
5th
ward,
along
with
campaign
mailings
advertisements
for
new
high-rises
new
high-rise
apartments.
These
ads
are
slap
in
the
face
for
the
fifth
Ward
members
who
are
also
receiving
these.
Who
could
not
afford
these
apartments
they're
being
pushed
out
of
Evanston
instead
of
helping
the
them
stay
here
instead,
Evanston
is
recruiting
outsiders
who
have
no
community
interest
in
Evanston.
Why
should
other
communities
receive?
These
are
people
that
we
say
that
we
have
been
trying
to
make
keep
Evanston,
affordable
and
and
also
diverse.
Thank
you
thank.
A
G
My
name
is
Laurie
Ann,
Kloss
and
I'm,
a
member
of
red
door,
animal
shelters,
rabbit
rescue
team,
since
Easter
of
2019
I
have
helped
rescue
more
than
three
hundred
and
fourteen
domestic
rabbits
that
were
abandoned
outside
where
they
would
have
died.
It's
been
316
days
since
Easter,
that's
about
one
rabbit
a
day
and
I
am
exhausted.
Since
Easter
of
2019
Red
Door
Animal
Shelter
has
received
471
owners.
G
Surrender
requests
from
people
wanting
to
give
up
their
pet
rabbit
that
totals
785
unwanted
pet
rabbits
in
the
Chicagoland
area
in
the
last
11
months,
and
the
city
of
Evanston
has
been
a
big
problem
spot
for
us.
When
Cook
County
passed
a
retail
ban
on
dogs,
cats
and
rabbits
in
2014,
the
intent
was
to
protect
rabbits,
that's
why
they
were
included.
G
Unfortunately,
a
lot
of
the
older,
humane
ordinances
have
loopholes.
A
lot
of
the
language
has
to
do
with
USDA
breeders,
which
is
geared
towards
puppy
mills,
that
language
doesn't
work
for
rabbits.
Recently,
humane
pet
store
ordinances
have
been
passed
in
Downers,
Grove,
Vernon,
Hills,
Warrenville,
Buffalo,
Grove
and
Lyle.
They
have
updated
language
that
is
strong
and
effective,
and
that's
what
I
wanted
for
Evanston.
The
proposed
ordinance
on
the
agenda
looks
a
lot
like
the
Cook
County
ordinance,
and
if
that
one
had
worked,
we
wouldn't
be
here
begging
for
your
help.
G
H
My
name
is
Tony
greta's
and
I'm,
the
vice
president
at
red
door,
animal
shelter
we're
right
in
Rogers,
Park
we've
been
your
neighbor
for
20
years.
We
have
a
lot
of
adoptions
that
happen
with
your
residence
and
also
have
a
lot
of
rescues
from
the
city
of
Evanston.
We
have
worked
well.
We
have
a
great
relationship
with
the
Evanston
Animal
Shelter.
You
guys
have
your
dogs
and
cats
covered,
but
rabbits
third,
most
popular
pet
in
the
United
States.
H
We
kind
of
cover
those
bases
for
you
most
Animal
Control
facilities
aren't
equipped
to
rescue
house
rabbits
and
that's
our
specialty.
At
Red,
Door
we've
had
a
number
of
rabbits
I
believe
it's
about
half
a
dozen
rabbits
that
we've
rescued
in
Evanston
since
Easter
of
last
year.
This
is
an
annual
problem
because
people
purchase
them
sort
of
without
doing
their
research
impulsively.
There
are
very
cute
little
animals,
but
they
grow
into
animals
that
are
very
expensive
and
destructive
and
end
up
getting
dumped
outside
and
I.
H
I
Hi
I'm
Tamara,
Freedman,
I
am
resident
of
Evanston
and
I
have
been
a
volunteer
at
Red
Door
for
about
15
years
and
I
before
I
went
to
Red,
Door
I
didn't
even
know
about
rabbits
I
didn't
know,
they
came
in
so
many
different
colors
and
you
know
all
kinds
of
personalities
and
all
that
stuff
and
I'm
a
groomer.
Now
I
love
grooming,
rabbits,
but
a
lot
of
people
buy
rabbits
and
they
just
shove
them
in
a
room
by
themselves.
I
And
you
know
they
don't
treat
them
like
they're
actual,
like
members
of
the
family,
like
we
treat
our
dogs
and
our
cats.
So
even
just
that
is
you
know,
sort
of
like
abusive
to
the
rabbits,
but
then
when
they
get
tired
of
them
or
they
can't
take
care
of
them
or
they
realize,
as
Tony
said
that
you
know
they're
gonna
be
destructive,
then
they
do
just
dump
them
outside
and
I've
caught
some
of
those
rabbits
and
they're
terrified,
and
they
can
be.
I
You
know
rehabilitated
and
turn
into
great
pets,
but
a
lot
of
people
don't
they're,
not
cuddly
they're,
not
this
or
that
you
know
like
they
just
get
it
for
their
kid
or
something
like
that,
and
they
do
procreate
so
quickly,
there's
a
30-day
gestation
period.
So
we
don't
have
you
know
if
we
don't
have
these
locks
in
place,
you
know
for
spay
neuter,
then
it's
it's
just.
What
can
happen
is
incredible.
They
also
have
to
birth
canals.
So
it's
it's
crazy.
I
We've
we've
caught,
you
know,
captured
rabbits
that
people
have
left
out
outside
and
you
know,
ended
up
with
20
babies
yeah.
So
we
try
to
avoid
that
so
anyway.
I
think
that
this
ordinance
would
be
wonderful
if
we
could
stop
anybody
from
allowing
the
right,
but
that's
not
spayed
neutered
into
anyone's
hands.
Oh
thank
you.
Thank.
J
Friday
night
I
was
at
a
meeting
at
the
citizens
Network
of
protection
that
that
meeting
also
was
alderman
and
Rainey,
and
she
asked
the
question
was:
have
we
attended
any
of
the
police
review
board
or
the
police
citizen
advisory
committee
meeting?
And
we
told
her?
Yes,
we
did
Amy,
but
the
review
board,
which
we
have
been
asked
in.
It's
not
in
place.
So
she
said
what
I
said.
J
You
remember
that
ordinance
y'all
voted
back
in
October
that
was
supposed
to
be
going
into
place
in
January,
it's
now
March,
and
so
she
saw
a
wait
a
minute.
The
mayor
sent
out
an
email
for
this
and
one
thing
we
asked
her
that
there's
been
no
real
communication
of
this
new
process
given
to
the
community,
no
education
about
filing
these
new
complaint.
What
is
going
to
be
the
difference
between
the
old
process
and
the
new
process?
None
of
that.
So
you
have
a
low
number
of
complaints
from
people.
J
You
will
have
even
a
lower
number
of
complaints
because
one
they
won't
know
about
filing
how
when
where
and
how
the
other
thing
too
is
that
they
is
set
up
and
like
the
old
one,
and
they
said
why
go
through
that,
because
nothing
has
changed.
You
change
the
title
because
you
have
not
discussed
with
them.
What
you
have
changed,
we
did
submit
a
metric
to
you
to
show
you
the
difference
between
what
the
citizen
network
Protection
is
proposing.
J
What
the
old
one
look
like
in
what
you
have
and
we
have
been
disseminating
that
information
in
the
community.
The
people
have
our
information,
but
they
don't
have
the
city,
and
why
is
that?
Why
is
it
that
the
city
cannot
have
what
they
call
town
hall
meetings
and
not
meetings
where
you
give
people
cards
and
said?
Well:
I,
don't
answer
on
a
cart
but
a
meeting
where
there
is
live
discussion
so
that
can
come
up
with
a
complete
in
a
workable
process.
J
A
A
A
No
no
but
I
mean
the
way.
It
reads.
Is
that
I
made
a
recommendation
for
the
app
so
I
wanted
to
strike
that
before
it
went
to
Council.
So
it's
reflected
in
the
minutes.
I
just
want
to
it's
still
in
draft
format,
so
I
want
to
make
the
change.
Do
we
leave
it
to
staff
I
can't
recall
was
that
it?
So
if
we
can
go
back
and
just
make
that
amendment
corporation
council
just
so
I'm
going
to
strike
that
it's
on
page
page
5
of
66
in
the
packet
I
think
we
was
it.
A
E
A
You
guys
could
grab
me
a
little
bit
of
privileges
if
we
can
make
a
motion
to
pass
the
February
3rd
minute.
Meeting
minutes
of
the
meeting
with
that
amendment
on
page
5
to
read,
staff
recommends
adoption
of
revolution
14
our
20s
there,
a
second
it's
been
properly
moved
and
seconded,
seeing
no
lights
for
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
of
making
the
edits.
Please
signify
by
saying
aye
any
opposed.
The
minutes
are
amended.
Thank
you
all
chief,
but
we
have
items
for
consideration.
The
first
one
is
item
hs1
review
of
the
police
complaints.
A
K
K
Evening
committee,
chair
members
of
the
committee
direct
elbow
some
time
ago.
The
police
department
completed
the
decentralization
of
the
complaint
process
and
we
did
that
because
people
felt
unsafe
coming
into
the
police
department,
they
felt
inhibited.
So
we
came
up
with
a
number
of
things
that
we
can
do
to
decentralize
the
complaint
process.
K
You
can
down
3-1,
you
can
come
in
to
City
Hall
and
file
a
complaint
and
you
can
file
a
complaint
online
from
what
I've
heard
I
think
it's
only
ten
citizens
put
in
for
new
review
boards,
so
we're
just
waiting
on
the
board
to
be
picked
and
then
it'll
start.
These
complaints
that
we
hear
tonight
about
will
start
following
through
that
process.
L
A
M
If
I
can
real
quick
follow-up
to
the
Chiefs
comment,
I
do
think
it
would
be
great
at
the
city
manager's
office
and
the
chief
can
put
something
together.
You
know
what
the
new
you
know
how
the
new
complaint
process
will
be
handled
and
then,
when
we
do
have
a
new
committee
that
we
probably
should
make
sure
we
make
that
announcement
either
here
or
at
4:00
City
Council,
so
that
people
know
the
new
committee
is
in
place
because
it
has
been
like
probably
a
year.
M
We've
been
talking
about
it,
but
we
still
don't
have
the
committee
in
place.
So
I
do
think
it's
important
that
the
city
manager,
the
mayor,
make
that
announcement
when
that
committees
in
place
and
then
that
we
can,
because
obviously
again,
even
with
you
making
that
announcement
now,
everyone's
not
listening
so
making
sure
that
we
are
proactive,
whether
you're
on
the
website
or,
however,
we
do
it
that
people
understand.
You
know
what
the
new
process
is
with.
The
new
committee
is
when
the
committee
meets
and
all
that
stuff.
A
K
It's
a
new
board
and
a
new
board.
Yes,
yes,
sir.
Okay,
it's
a
new
review
for
people.
Okay,
that
are
going
to
be
reviewing
disciplinary
actions
right
new
and,
as
I
stated,
you
know
to
make
it
a
little
bit
more
transparent
to
gather
more
opportunity
for
people
to
feel
safe
to
complain.
That's
why
we
went
through
the
dissent
zatia.
Yes,
yes,
but.
A
K
I,
don't
we
quote
anything
you're
correct?
We
go
through
the
channels
of
Investigation,
you
know:
we've.
We
were
in
the
Hylian
Hinds
report
that
the
city
paid
to
have
done
on
a
police
department.
They
said
that
we
had
a
really
good
investigative
process
for
the
intake
of
citizen
complaints,
but
we
looked
at
decentralizing
the
intake
of
complaints,
whereas,
if
you
come,
you
know,
people
didn't
feel
that
it
was
a
good
thing
to
come
in
and
see
the
sergeant
on
that
shift.
K
M
M
M
E
M
Is
incompetency
or
inefficiency
in
the
performance
of
a
duty
or
task
so
in
the
complaint
it
that
the
passenger
in
the
car
was
asked
to
provide
I
didn't
buy
themselves
and
they
did
not
comply
and
looking
at
the
video
and
then
reading
further
into
it,
it
is
they
do
not.
If
you're
a
passenger
in
the
car
and
the
car
is
being
stopped
for
a
traffic
violation,
you
do
not
have
to
identify
yourself,
it
might
be
requested
of
you,
but
you
are
not
the
driver
and
not
the
reason
that
the
car
was
stopped.
M
So,
while
I
appreciate
that
you
know
there
was
some
findings
here
of
you,
guys
are
used
to
term
guilty,
but
there
was
some
findings
in
which
they
were
error.
I
think-
and
there
was
two
different
officers
here
at
I-
mean
I-
think
it's
our
officers
need
to
know
the
policies
in
the
law,
and
this
officer
stated
very
clearly
in
the
video
that
this
was
the
law.
M
This
person
did
have
to
provide
their
ID
that
the
gentleman
in
the
seat
said
this
is
not
the
law
do
not
provided
and
did
not
do
so
and
in
speaking
to
the
sir
ginger
here
in
front
of
me,
you
know
that
is
not
the
law,
so
I
think
our
officers
need
to
be
able
to
know
what
the
law
is,
particularly
when
we're
demanding
it
of
our
citizens.
So
I
think
that
rule
six
should
be
added
to
this
violation.
Here,
in
my
opinion,
I,
don't
know
how
we
do
that
after
the
fact.
K
M
So
that's
fine,
I
think
what
my
concern
here
is
in
that
I've
talked
about
this
several
times
in
the
committee,
which
is
you
know,
someone
comes
in,
they
make
a
complaint
and
whatever
their
complaint
is
what
I've
have
come
to
understand.
Is
it
by
us
having
o-p-s
when
they
review
those
materials?
They
obviously
are
looking
for
any
error,
so
they
will
look
at
the
rules
that
are
cited,
but
they
also
might
look
at
things
that
you
know.
Maybe
the
supervisor
didn't
put
in
there
or
that
the
citizen,
maybe
didn't
even
know,
was
a
rule
violation.
M
So
it's
it's,
you
know
be
holding
on
our
OBS
team
to
point
out
any
violations,
whether
the
citizen
or
the
previous
surgeon
pointed
the
mountain.
So
in
this
case
we
and
I-
you
know
if
you
guys,
won't
look
at
the
video,
but
the
officer
was
very
adamant,
even
speaking
in
terms
of
you
know
telling
the
citizen
that
he
had
called
the
law
school
and
he
knew
what
the
laws
were
and
that
the
law
stated
that
this
gentleman
needed
to
show
his
ID
and
for
my
understanding,
I'm,
not
a
lawyer.
But
that
is
not
the
law.
L
Correct
and
rule
one
does
cover
that,
because
it
is
a
violation
of
state
law.
He
does
not
have
to
show
his
idea
if
he
did
not
commit
a
crime,
so
if
there
is
something
that
there's
no
reasonable
suspicion
that
he's
about
to
commit
a
crime
committing
a
crime,
anything
like
that,
he
does
not
have
to
give
his
information,
so
he
was
correct
and
it
is
covered
in
rule.
One
I
do
understand
what
you're
saying
with
rule
six,
and
it
was
not
added
to
this
and
with
the
complaint
process.
L
When
we
do
do
the
reviews,
it
is
up
to
an
investigator
to
look
at
the
rules
and
see
what
fits
if
at
some
point,
which
did
happen
on
this
supervisor
along
the
chain
of
command,
does
see
another
violation
that
fits
like
this
one.
They
didn't
have
a
ticket
book.
They
ended
up,
adding
a
rule
for
not
having
equipment.
So
if
something
like
that
occurs,
they
will
go
ahead
and
add
it
so,
based
on
this,
I
believe
the
investigators
felt
that
the
rules
covered
the
actual
violations
all.
A
N
M
The
sergeant
did
walking
me
through
handcuffs,
have
not
ever
been
in
handcuffs
I,
don't
really
know
how
they
fit
in
you
know.
My
concern
was
that
this
was
a
larger
gentleman
and
I
assume
that
handcuffs.
You
know
they're
not
one
size
fit
all,
but
maybe
they're
we
don't
have
an
extra
large
or
whatever
I'm.
The
gentleman
complain
right
away
that
they
were
too
tight.
My
bigger
concern
in
that
one
this
is
initially
a
rule
violation,
but
is
de-escalation
that
gentleman
was
very
irritated.
M
You
know
stuck
to
his
story
in
terms
of
why
he
was
having
this
altercation
I
think
was
very
honest
about
his
irritation
and
and
and
all
those
things
at
the
end
of
the
video
I
think
there
were
four
or
six
police
officers
on
the
scene,
and
this
gentleman
continued
to
be
irritated,
which
is
his
right
to
do,
but
I
wish
that
I
would
have
seen
a
little
more
de-escalation
on
the
part
of
our
officers.
Not
just
you
know
the
very
basic
I
need
you
to
calm
down.
M
I
need
you
to
calm
down
that
clearly
wasn't
working
for
this
gentleman
in
this
situation.
I'm,
not
a
de-escalation
trained
expert,
but
it
was
I,
would
have
liked
to
have
seen
given
all
the
officers
on
the
scene
that
there
was
someone
who
was
able
to
speak
to
him
in
a
different
language
or
use
a
different
skillset
to
try
to
de-escalate
him,
not
granted.
M
A
Guess
before
we
go
further
so
to
the
members
of
the
public
that
are
here
and
just
a
reminder,
many
members,
so
from
time
to
time.
If
there
is
something,
so
if
you
have
a
complaint,
we
definitely
encourage
you
to
go
through
the
normal
complaint
process.
But
then
we
also
encourage
you
to
if
it's
severe
that
you
reach
out
to
your
local
alderman,
to
bring
it
to
our
attention.
D
M
Have
one
more
statement:
that's
okay
and
I
definitely
would
if
it
was
something
more
egregious
I
would
have
sent
you
guys
anybody
to
do
it.
I
didn't
look
at
two
about
four
o'clock,
so
I
have
a
couple
just
questions,
so
one
for
another
meeting
I
would
be
interested
to
have
the
number
of
complaints
from
our
net
unit.
I
feel
like
in
my
couple
years.
Looking
at
these
videos,
it
and
I
don't
want
a
stereotype,
but
it
seems
to
be
several
pertaining
to
our
net
unit,
which
is
our
tactical
narcotics
unit.
I.
M
Think
so
I
would
be
interested
to
see
there
the
complaints
there.
Also.
What
is
the
policy
that
we
have
internally
or
the
police
policy
regarding
a
police
officer
identifying
or
explaining
why
he
is
approaching
a
citizen?
You
know
asking
questions,
not
just
you
know
hey,
how
are
you
doing,
but
what
are
you
doing
here?
What's
your
name.
K
M
Minute
traffic
just
walking
down
the
street
any
engagement
that
we
have
with
the
citizen.
If
a
citizen
says,
if
you
stop,
if
you
say
hey,
you
know
what
are
you
doing
over
here?
Do
you
have
we
have
a
policy
that
if
I
ask
or
is
our
policy
that
you
we
need
to
explain
to
me
why
you're
approaching
me
particular
if
you're
asking
me
about
my
whereabouts
and
who
I
am
and
such
yes.
K
Yes,
the
police
officer
should
always
explain
why
he
is
engaging
it's
not
necessarily
a
stop,
but
if
I'm
engaging
a
citizen
and
asking
intrusive
questions,
I
should
say
just
like
in
a
traffic:
stop
hi
I'm
officer
cook
with
the
Evanston
Police
Department.
The
reason
why
I'm
engaging
or
stopping
you
is
it's
because
you're
in
a
dark
area-
hypothetically
and
we've
been
having
some
incidents
here.
Things
of
that
nature.
Okay,.
M
K
M
K
M
Right
so
I
was
suggesting
for
the
chair
or
for
our
committee
that
we
make
sure
we're
if
we
are
not
meeting
for
whatever
reason
that
these
go
on
to
time.
City
Council
I
think
it's
imperative
that
people
are
gonna,
have
trust
in
our
complaint
system
that
they,
you
know,
have
a
thorough
investigation.
But
then
they
also,
you
know,
have
us
discuss
them
or
they've
been
heard
in
a
respectful
manner.
K
M
I
mean
sometimes
this
committee
doesn't
meet,
for
you
know
a
variety
of
reasons
and
I:
don't
I,
don't
think
that
that
should
hold
up.
You
know
these
people
who
put
their
complaints
in
being
her
because
I
know
that
they
get
an
opportunity
as
well
to
come
here
and
say:
there's
two
cents
and
they
shouldn't
have
to
wait
from
October
to
March.
To
do
that
so
I'm
just
saying
for
our
committee.
K
L
L
L
M
I
know
because
of
personnel
rules,
you
can't
tell
me
who
the
officers
are,
but
I
would
love
to
know
the
number
of
complaints.
You
know
kind
of
summarizing
the
findings
and
then
also,
if
you
can
highlight
for
me-
and
you
don't
have
to
give
the
name
obviously,
but
if
there
are
some
officers
where
we're
seeing
some
some
repeat
complaints
come
in
in.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
A
A
B
N
N
I
want
to
join
those
progressive
communities
that
are
looking
to
take
a
humane
stance
on
the
sale
and
adoption
of
cats,
dogs
and
and
rabbits,
and
one
of
the
reasons
that
we're
hoping
that
this
will
get
a
positive
recommendation
from
Human
Services
tonight
is
that
we
would
like
this
to
come
to
Council
at
the
next
council
meeting.
And
hopefully
we
will
have
this
in
place
in
time
for
Easter
the
Easter
rush,
unwrapped
it
red
vent
purchases
and
yeah
Easter's
army
yeah.
N
So
the
folks
who
are
here
from
Red
Door
tonight,
I
think
we
owe
them
city
of
Evanston
owes
them
how
huge
vote
of
thanks
for
picking
up
from
us,
because
we
we
don't
have
the
capacity
in
our
shelter
of
Vickie
Fesenko,
is
here
tonight
from
from
our
shelter.
We
just
don't
have
the
capacity
to
deal
with
rabbits
and
I
think
it's
it's
one
of
those
things
where
you
know
folks
assume,
since
there
are
wild
rabbits
outside
that.
Certainly
domestic
rabbits
can
just
join
them
and
live
a
happy
little
life
bouncing
around
our
backyards.
N
N
N
So
it's
important
as
in
other
communities
to
have
our
own
local
ordinance
and
that's
what
our
staff
has
drafted
here
so
I
hope
that
you'll
all
support
this,
because
I
think
it's
a
really
a
really
good
thing.
The
only
the
only
place
where
it's
a
little
bit
confusing,
which
I've
talked
to
our
law
department
about,
is
the
definition
of
adopt,
because
we
in
the
in
the
rescue
field,
the
term
adopt
means
one
thing
which
I
don't
think
has
been
necessarily
communicated
to.
N
N
The
other
part
of
this
that
I
do
want
to
say
about
about
adoption,
and
especially
dogs
and
cats.
Dogs,
specifically,
is
that
since
the
puppy
mills
have
been
exposed
and
prohibited,
there
has
been
a
lot
of
attention
given
to
bringing
in
animals
from
other
high
kill,
shelters
throughout
the
United
States
and
coming
in
for
adoption
in
our
area
and
and
that's
a
that's,
a
very
good
thing.
N
But
it's
really
important
that
these
go
through
these
animals
go
through
licensed
rescue
organizations
that
will
that
have
a
commitment
to
getting
the
animal
not
only
spayed
and
neutered,
but
also
the
medical
care.
It
needs
the
work
that
on
temperament,
training
or
just
general
obedience,
training
I
mean
you've,
you've
heard
from
Vicki
Fesenko
about
the
work
that
we
do
at
the
Evanston
Animal
Shelter,
which
is
incredible
and
has
really
reduced
our
euthanasia
rate
and
is
increased
our
successful
adoption
rate
dramatically
because
we've
been
committed
to
that.
So
that's
that's.
N
One
of
the
one
of
the
important
things
is
that
when
dogs
come
in
that
they
go
through,
they
go
through
a
licensed
organization
that
we
can
be
sure
that
the
animals
have
been
have
been
vetted
properly
and
are
ready
to
go
out
into
adoptive
homes.
So
hope
that
you
will
support
this.
If
you
have
any
questions,
folks
are
here
tonight
to
answer
your
questions,
so
thanks
Thank.
A
M
You
know
I
guess
I'm,
assuming
our
staff
is
gonna,
spend
a
lot
of
time.
I
go
on
Craigslist,
trying
to
figure
out
if
a
neighbor
cell
into
a
neighbor
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
But
you
know
I
just
get
a
little
bit
concerned
about
people
who
are
not
trying
to
harm
animals.
You
know
or
not,
puppy
mills
and
all
those
things,
but
either
have
an
animal
there.
I'm
glad
you
mentioned
the
gifting
because
that's
possible,
where
they're
you
know
selling
for
a
couple
books.
M
The
aunt
the
rabbit
thing
is
so
with
this
being
super
new
to
me:
I
guess,
I.
My
only
concern
about
this
and
and
I
don't
know
that
this
is
fact,
but
when
I
was
little,
the
fishbowl
sold
rabbits
I
think
it
was
only
place.
I,
remember
selling
rabbits
because
I'm
not
a
rabbit
fan,
so
it
I
never
went
into
the
store,
but
I
know
they
just
had
a
new
owner,
a
young
business
owner
I,
don't
know
how
much
revenue
she
generates
from
rabbits
I,
don't
know.
M
If
that's
the
only
place
that
I
would
you
buy
rabbit?
You
know,
I,
don't
know
anything
about
the
rapid
industry,
but
I
guess
I
feel
a
little
bit
bad
for
this
young
woman.
If
she
purchased
a
store
thinking
that
was,
you
know
her
big-ticket
item
and
now
we're
telling
her.
She
can't
sell
them
again.
I
have
no
I,
don't
know
she
is
I,
have
no
loyalty
to
that.
That's
just
the
one
place
I
can
think
of
in
town.
That
does
sell
rabbits.
M
So
if
this
is
something
we're
going
to
do,
I
would
hope
that
as
a
city
or,
however,
we
work
with
her
to
you,
know
kind
of
wean
her
out
of
that
business.
If
that
is,
I
would
hate
to
see
a
young
person
who's
invested
into
a
business
I
know
she's
done
a
lot
with
the
facade
and
so
on,
and
now
we're
telling
her
that
one
of
her
income
sources
is
no
longer
permitted
when
it
has
been
permitted,
probably
my
entire
life
at
that
business.
M
So
that's
just
my
you
know
two
cents
in
terms
of
us
being,
you
know
kind
to
the
rabbits,
but
also
understanding
of
our
business
community.
The
other
thing
is
whether
we
ban
the
sale
or
not
I,
don't
really
have
a
you
know
owning
in
the
race,
but
I
do
think
that
having
them
neutered,
whether
we
allow
adoption
selling
whatever
else
of
rabbits
I,
think
having
them.
Neutered
is
as
good.
We
do
that
with
our
dogs
and
cats.
You
know
for
this
very
reason.
M
So
if,
if
we
move
forward-
and
this
doesn't
pass,
I
would
definitely
suggest
and
I
mean
I
would
support
an
amendment
that
we
can
continue
to
have
them
adopted
or
sold
or
whatever
language
were
using.
But
they
are
neutered,
because,
when
I
do
understand
that
that
you
know
keeping
the
population
down
is
probably
our
largest
goal
so
that
they
can
be
cared
for
in
the
proper
manner.
N
Thank
you
all
around
Fleming
there's
nothing
to
prevent
her
from
selling
rabbits.
It's
just.
She
gets
to
neuter
them,
but.
N
M
On
and
our
animal
stores
considered,
breeders,
no
I,
don't
know
so
I
guess
for
legals
to
before
we
bring
this
back
to
before.
This
goes
on
to
counsel,
I
would
like
to
have
those
questions
I'm
happy
to
support
it's
obscene
on
the
council,
but
those
are
the
questions
of
things.
I
think
we
should
make
sure
are
clear
in
our
new
ordinance.
O
E
N
So
if
someone
owns
a
store
and
they're
going
to
be
breeding
rabbits
in
the
store,
I
can't
imagine
that
they're,
having
owned
a
retail
store,
adding
breeding
rabbits
to
the
list
of
tasks
that
one
lets
do
each
day.
I'm,
not
sure
anyone
is
going
to
do
that.
But
I
appreciate
that
question
being
asked,
but
I'm,
just
what
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
is.
Does
this
then
define
who
the
breeder?
N
N
N
E
A
P
Good
evening,
chair
members
of
the
human
service
committee
Shaniqua
ho
incorrect
ICMA
management.
Fellow
so
from
last
meeting
we
have
made
some
adjustments
to
the
policy.
As
you
see
in
your
memo,
we
have
adjusted
section
four,
where
we've
provided
that
staff
will
prepare
quarterly
reports.
The
City
Council
regarding
all
city
donations,
any
donations
exceeding
twenty
five
thousand
or
more
will
require
city
council
approving
of
acceptance
of
action
so
also
moving
right
along.
We
have
made
some
changes
to.
Can
you
all
hear
me?
Yes,.
A
P
Made
some
changes
to
section
five
I've
also
read
numbered
from
the
last
policy,
so
I
don't
want
to
confuse
anyone,
but
what
you
see
attached
to
your
policy
now
is
section
five
for
the
general
conditions.
We've
just
the
new
language
will
go
as
follow.
Donation
that
violates
city
code
or
city
city
policies
or
the
law,
states
or
federal
laws
or
other
order
of
governments
will
not
will
not
be
accepted
by
the
city.
And,
lastly,
we've
made
adjustments
to
section
10,
which
is
disowning
and
procedure
approvals.
P
So
with
that
new
language,
we
have
stated
that
applicants
seeking
location
approval,
either
individual
or
as
part
of
group
organizations
or
companies
shall
not
concurrently
offer
or
make
voluntary
donations
to
the
city.
So
what
that
simple
means?
It
says
if
you're
in
the
process
of
going
for
a
zoning
approval
of
some
sort,
you're
not
in
a
position
to
make
donations
to
the
city,
makes
sense.
Yeah.
M
So
I'm
fine
with
everything
except
for
session
ten
I,
think
I
would
like
to
see
a
time
frame
in
there.
So,
although
I
just
think
you
say
not
concurrently,
our
zoning
process
can
be
very
long
and
I
would
just
you
know,
given
this
time
of
government
mistrust,
you
know,
even
as
innocent
as
it
might
be,
I
would
hate
for
someone
to
finish
his
on
your
process
and
then
give
a
gift,
or
maybe
they've,
given
a
gift
before
so
I
think
putting
a
time
frame
in
there.
M
For
me,
a
large
time
frame
makes
me
feel
more
secure
in
this,
not
that
we
I
anticipate
having
any
kind
of
corruption,
but
I
think
we
should
err
on
the
side
of
making
sure
that
doesn't
happen.
So
I
I
would
suggest
that
that
person,
so
maybe
I'm,
an
extremist,
I,
would
say
four
years
so
that
we
know
that
person
is
not
giving
something
to
a
certain
alderman
during
their.
M
M
But
what
I'm
saying
gift
would,
if
I'm
and
I'm
again
I'm
putting
this
other
type
of
ethical,
what
I'm
saying
the
City
gift?
It
could
be
any
gift
or
it
could
be.
You
know,
they're
gonna
prepare
a
park
in
the
Ninth
Ward,
it's
not
a
gift
to
me.
It's
a
gift
to
the
city,
but
it
might
people
label
gifts.
All
the
time
and
I
think
you've
addressed
this,
but
people
might
label
to
give
for
a
certain
area
of
town
or
for
a
certain
usage,
and
so.
M
M
Understand
a
public
benefit,
so
usually
a
public
benefit
if
I'm
correct,
we
have
them
so
that
they're
around
the
projects
right,
they're,
very
clear
and
they
come
up
during
the
project
I'm
speaking
of
a
gift.
If
I
want
to
build
building,
XY
and
Z
in
the
first
ward,
I,
don't
think
that,
then
you
know
I
should
be
able
to
two
years
down
the
line,
make
a
gift
to
the
first
war
to
make
a
gift.
M
You
know,
I
think
we
want
to
be
very
clear
that
things
can
never
look
like
we
are
doing
or
have
done
something
regarding
a
gift.
Public
benefits
are
very
clear:
those
are
put
up
front.
Those
are
clarified
during
the
you
know,
zoning
or
diaper
or
whatever,
process
and
we've
we've
made
those
so
that
they
are
around
a
certain
project.
A
L
N
That's
and
that's
a
cornerstone
of
good
government
and
I'm,
not
sure
what
the
time
frame
is
in
in
there,
but
I
mean
we
do
have
public
benefits
that
are,
you
know
specifically
outlined
in
our
ordinance
our
city
code,
that
are
concentrated
on
the
development
itself
or
in
the
area
of
the
development
itself.
For
specifically
that
reason,
so
it
doesn't
appear
that
someone's
just
giving
something
and
then
hoping
for
a
good,
a
good.
C
O
O
But
maybe
that's
a
place
to
look,
but
the
one
question
one
point
I
did
want
to
make
it's
on
page
56
of
our
packet
I
mean
yeah
56
in
terms
of
documentation
and
communication
with
donors
and
16.2
says
when
a
gift
is
received
from
a
donor
over
six
hundred
dollars.
The
receipe
recipient
department
must
supply
the
donor
with
an
income
tax
receipt,
but
the
IRS
rules
is
for
any
gift
over
two
hundred
and
fifty.
A
E
A
A
B
Want
to
pay
for
improvements
for
this
part,
and
then
the
public
benefit
is
directly
attached
to
a
planned
development
and
there's
already
governance
on
how
we
do
that,
so
it
whenever
this
comes
back,
if
you
could
be
clear
that
we
don't
like
merge
those
two
and
differentiate,
we
would
differentiate
them.
Thank
you
all.
A
Right,
perfect,
okay,
so
this
item
before
us
hs3
is
for
action.
We
have
to
call
outs,
one
is
the
one
is
the
time
period
and
then
the
second
one
is
making
sure
we
have
a
clear
distinction
between
what
is
considered
a
gift
versus
public
benefit.
So
my
question
is:
do
we
want
to
move
this
forward
with
direction
to
staff?
Is
there
a
motion
to
do
so
or
do
you
want
to
come
back
well.
M
A
P
E
G
A
A
M
I'm
sorry
I
know
seven
different
thought
so
I,
because
these
are
all
grouped
together
I.
There
are
two
agencies
that
I
will
not
be
supporting
moving
forward,
but
since
it's
all
group
together
and
for
the
sake
of
time,
I
would
just
vote
no,
but
I
did
want
to
make
a
public
statement
that
I
do
appreciate
the
work
I'm,
not
supporting
the
two
agencies
that
missed
the
deadline
to
get
their
proposal.
In
noted.