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A
Good
evening
and
welcome
this
is
the
March
22nd
2023
public
hearing
of
the
land
use
commission.
The
city
code
directs
this
body
to
hear
applications
for
map
and
text
amendments
special
uses,
including
plan
developments,
zoning
relief
and
appeals
from
decisions
of
the
zoning
administrator,
as
well
as
to
make
recommendations
regarding
the
city's
long-term
planning
goals
and
objectives
depending
on
the
type
of
matter.
This
commission
will
either
make
a
final
determination
or
send
its
recommendation
to
city
council
I'm
Miss
Jones.
Would
you
please
call
the
roll.
C
C
A
Present
with
eight
members
present,
we
do
have
a
quorum
also
present
tonight
from
City
staff.
Our
neighborhood
and
land
use,
planner
Megan,
Jones
assistant,
City
attorney
Brian
George,
zoning
administrator
Melissa
klotz
planning
manager,
Liz
Williams.
This
is
a
formal
Hearing
in
our
rules
that
govern
our
proceedings.
Most
importantly,
only
one
person
speaks
at
a
time
so
that
all
testimony
may
be
accurately
recorded.
Anyone
who
wishes
to
address
the
commission,
maybe
regarding
any
matter
on
tonight's
agenda,
will
have
the
opportunity
to
do
so
at
the
appropriate
time.
A
Our
procedure
is
to
hear
from
staff
on
the
documents
on
file
and
then
receive
testimony
and
other
evidence
from
the
applicant
or
repellent
after
that.
Person's
wishing
to
make
a
statement
regarding
the
matter
will
have
a
chance
to
do
so.
Any
person
with
a
legal
interest
in
property
located
within
defined
notification
requirements
of
the
subject.
Property
may
present
evidence
reasonably
questioned,
Witnesses
or
seek
a
continuance
of
the
hearing.
When
all
supporting
and
opposing
testimony
and
statements
have
been
heard,
the
applicant
or
repellent
will
be
given
the
opportunity
for
rebuttal
or
a
closing
statement.
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Then
the
commission
will
close
the
record
and
begin
deliberations
to
consider
the
standards.
The
commission
will
make
formal
findings
a
fact,
based
on
the
testimonial
evidence
presented
Guided
by
the
standards,
the
commissioner's
knowledge
of
the
community
and
the
recommendations
of
staff.
All
testimony
is
taken
under
oath,
although
do
we
not
apply,
we
do
not
apply
the
strict
rules
of
evidence.
Please
limit
your
testimony
to
the
proposal
as
it
relates
to
the
standards
contained
in
the
zoning
ordinance
and
the
corresponding
staff
memorandum.
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testifying,
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date.
Any
matter
not
concluded
that
tonight's
hearing
will
be
continued
to
our
next
regularly
scheduled
meeting.
We
do
have
two
items
on
the
agenda
this
evening.
The
first
one
is
an
application
for
major
variation
for
2117.
A
Dewey
Avenue
is
the
applicant
present
I
see
he
is,
and
the
second
one
is
a
zoning
text.
Amendment,
which
is
City
initiated
and
City
staff,
is
also
present
at
this
point,
I'm
going
to
ask
that
anybody
who
may
be
speaking
to
us
tonight
on
any
matter
on
the
agenda
be
sworn
by,
raising
their
right
hand,
do
you
swear
or
affirm,
to
tell
the
truth
throughout
the
course
of
these
proceedings?
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A
A
A
E
Jspats
property
owner
request
requests
major
variations
to
construct
a
two
unit:
two-story
live
work,
building
with
a
zero
foot
front
yard
setback
where
10
feet
is
required,
section
61346a
and
a
three
foot:
North
interior
side
yard
setback
where
five
feet
is
required.
Section
61346c
in
the
mxe
mixed
use;
employment
District,
the
land
use
commission
is
the
determining
body
for
this
case.
In
accordance
with
section
63810
of
the
Evanston
zoning
code
and
ordinance
92021.
F
My
name
is
Andy,
spatz
I'm
been
an
evanstonian
forever,
and
this
is
my
partner
Matt
Berry
almost
forever,
and
we're
going.
We
want
to
put
a
two
unit
live
work
space
on
an
adjacent
property
that
we
owned
for
almost
forever
in
the
since
the
early
2000s
and
we're
putting
it
adjacent
to
a
building
that
we
started
renovating
in
the
late
1990s
and
three
phases:
it's
a
19
unit
building
it
has
46
on-site
parking
spaces
and
we're
going.
F
We
want
to
take
the
adjacent
live
work
space,
which
is
a
single
unit
that
has
seen
its
better
days
and
put
a
new
two
unit.
Building
on
that
site,
we're
requesting
a
three-foot
side
yard
between
the
new
building
and
our
and
the
building
we
also
own
and
to
the
South.
There
would
be
a
five
foot
setback.
We
have
approval
from
the
owner
of
the
adjacent
property.
He
actually
moved
from
the
stamp
Factory
over
to
a
building.
He
renovated.
So
he's
also
a
a
long
time
user
of
the
Fifth
Ward
and
without
further
Ado.
F
F
F
and
next
slide,
please
or
scroll
it
up
or,
however,
you're
gonna.
Do
it
yeah
there
you
go.
Thank
you
so
there's
three
feet
in
between
the
two
buildings,
like
I,
said,
the
idea
is
to
have
the
same
front
yard
set
back,
so
the
new
and
the
olds
blend
together
we're
going
to
use
all
the
same
building
materials
that
you'll
see
in
some
other
slides,
the
I'm
standing,
seam
siding
and
the
corrugated
standing,
seam
siding
and
some
black
porcelain
ceramic
tile
keep
going
Melissa.
F
F
H
The
intent
was
to
center
a
lot
of
the
rooms
around
that
internal
Courtyard
space.
So
there's
a
lot
of
glazing
that
faces
on
to
that
courtyard
space
and
yeah.
There's
just
the
two
windows
from
the
the
second
floor:
bedroom
that
face
onto
that
North
elevation.
Given
the
setback,
we
have
10
allowance
of
open
space,
so
we're
well
under
that
threshold.
I
F
The
the
stamp
Factory
yes
interesting,
it
was
built,
it
started
in
the
20s
this
we
and
we
got
all
this
from
the
sewer
tap
information
started
in
the
20s
and
was
added
on
to
nine
different
times
until
the
late
1950s
they
stamped
car
bumpers.
There
believe
it
or
not
and
when
we
bought
it
originally
it
had
this
big.
F
It
was:
was
it
about
30
35
feet
long,
the
crane
yeah
there
was
this
like
rolling
crane
in
the
the
the
the
last
building
that
was
built,
which
is
furthest
to
the
South
of
on
this
in
the
original
stamp
Factory?
And
what
we
did
was
we
drove
in
a
flatbed
truck,
picked
the
thing
up,
spun
it
and
dropped
down
the
flatbed
tarp
and
took
it
out.
It
was
pretty
cool
to
see
it
done,
but
anyhow,
though,
it
was
built
over
30
some
odd
years.
D
F
D
Yeah
I
just
am
a
bit
concerned
because
I've
driven
you
know
around
that
block
a
couple
of
times
and
and
with
the
stamp
Factory
I
mean
you've
got
people
parking
basically
over
the
sidewalk
along
Dewey.
On
a
pretty
you
know,
it's
been
both
times
that
I've
been
by
there
and
and
I'm
just
kind
of
concerned
about
anything
projecting
beyond
the
lot
line.
F
Like
I
said
the
in
every
phase
of
the
project,
we've
overhung
the
public
way
as
we
have
on
all
sorts
of
projects
per
you
know
per
the
code
and
it's
it's
above
12
feet.
So
we
have,
you
know
unlimited
to
the
curb
if
we
wanted
to,
but
we
just
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
integrate
it
into
the
design
of
the
stamp
Factory.
H
G
E
I
What
would
happen
if
you
went
to
a
five
foot
setback
and
then
you
could
bring
your
projection
into
that
five
foot
setback,
I,
guess
I'm
concerned
a
little
bit
when
you
walk
down
that
block.
You
know
the
properties
across
the
street
in
the
west
side
all
have
pretty
sizable
setbacks.
The
setbacks
do
vary
on
the
east
side,
but
I'm
curious
as
to
why
you
would
need
to
come
that
close
to
the
lot
line
and
project
over.
F
The
first
reason
is
it
ties
into
the
adjacent
building
on
the
stamp
Factory
most
of
the
buildings
in
that
neighborhood.
If
you
walk
down
Dewey
to
from
south
to
North
our
zero
lot
line,
if
you
walk
down
pain
from
west
to
east,
all
the
way
to
Green
Bay,
Road,
they're,
all
zero
setbacks,
so
we're
in
keeping
with
you
know,
what's
being
done
to
the
on
the
majority
of
the
buildings.
Double
clutch
has
a
zero
setback
on.
I
Very
they
vary
I'm,
just
in
that
specific
block
where
you're
located
across
the
street.
They
do
have
more
of
a
setback.
As
you
come
around
the
corner
there
from
paying
on
to
Dewey
I
realize
the
stamp
Factory
is
very
close,
but
that's
why
it
would
be
nice
to
have
a
little
bit
of
a
setback
with
this
building.
So
you
start
to
relieve
it
as
you
go
further
south
I'm
just
wondering,
what's
possible,
with
your
design
to
accommodate
that.
H
So
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
showing
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
shown
on
the
site
plan,
but
we
obviously
need
to
provide
parking.
It
was
just
something
we
do
for
our
tenants
because
we
typically
manage
these
buildings.
So
we
attempt
to
provide
an
abundance
of
parking
and
then
I'm
sure,
as
you
guys
all
know,
that
neighborhood
right
now
is
has
changed
quite
a
bit
in
the
past
five
to
seven
years.
H
A
lot
of
new
development
has
not
provided
any
new
parking
in
that
area,
so
we're
we're
feeling
that
squeeze
for
sure
So
based
on
the
requirements
in
the
rear
yard,
where
we
are
providing
part
of
providing
parking.
It's
sort
of
pushes
the
building
to
the
street.
So
there's
multiple
reasons
there,
but
that,
as
far
as
a
pragmatic
reason
is,
is
the
main
driver
you
can
sort
of
see
if
we
were
to,
if
there's
any
more
on
that
slide.
H
If
we
could
move
to
the
right
the
parking
layout
in
the
back
with
the
accessible
space
and
then
the
two
other
spaces.
Obviously
garbage
refuse
removal
and
all
that
stuff.
So
we're
we're
pretty
tight
and
to
be
a
good
neighbor
and,
as
we've
tried
to
do
for
the
past
20
years,
we
try
and
provide
an
abundance
of
parking.
We've
found
that,
especially
in
that
neighborhood,
it's
very
desirable.
I
H
Does
yeah
and
we've
also
used
that
at
1629
Oak,
which
is
a
building
downtown?
It's
a
it's
a
part
of
the
code,
it's
in
there
unless
the
city
wrote
an
ordinance
that
was
specific
to
that
section,
it's
allowable,
so
we've
we've
kind
of
done
this
one
before
and
we're
pretty
familiar
with
the
language
in
the
code
until
something
changes.
A
K
H
D
What
would
happen
to
the
plan
if
you
were
to
because
I
see
the
the
forefoot
overhang?
You
know
it
starts
it's
at
the
lot
line
on
the
North,
and
then
it
extends
the
four
feet
on
the
on
the
south.
What,
if
you
were
to,
you,
know,
create
a
little
I,
don't
know
planting
area
or
a
little
Courtyard
or
something
on
you
know
if
the
four
feet
on
the
North
and
have
the
four
foot
projection
stop
at
the
light
line
on
the
south.
What
what
does
that
do
to
the
plan?
It's.
H
D
H
D
H
Smaller
we
could
I
mean
we
can
look
into
that.
It's
really
tight,
as
is
as
far
as
you
know,
room
sizes
and
and
kitchen
sizes,
and
that
sort
of
stuff,
bathroom
sizes.
It's
all
it's
really
tight
right
now,
I
mean
it
can
be
looked
at,
but
really
the
only
way
to
do
it
is
to
sort
of
shift
the
whole
thing
back
and
I
I
will
say
you
know
for
I
know
all
you
guys
have
been
in
that
neighborhood.
H
L
H
Spaces
because
it's
there's
a
street
scene
out
there,
especially
with
connections
I've,
seen
everything
and
anything
we've
built
plenty
of
of
works
over
there
across
the
street.
There's
a
lot
of
police
intervention,
seen
shootings
I've,
seen
it
all
over
there,
so
sort
of
the
idea
that
it
could
be
a
planted
area.
That's
taken
care
of,
and
nice
is,
although
I
wish
we
could
do
it
I
think
it's
slightly.
D
Think
my
concern
really
is
with
the
overhang
and
the
people
who
are
you
know
parked
in
front
of
their
garages.
Yeah
I
mean
that's,
that's
you
know,
it
really
doesn't
enhance
the
you
know
the
Aesthetics
at
all
with
yeah,
which
is
you
know,
maybe
the
same.
You
know
it's
not
this
particular
site,
but
I
think
that
that
kind
of
parking
congestion-
that's
there
is
problematic
and
and
I
don't
expect
you
to
solve
it
with
this
particular
building.
But
I
think
in
this
particular
case
that
that
overhang
is
even
if
it's
allowed
by
code.
H
Yeah,
it's
the
parking,
it's
a
problem
in
that
neighborhood
and
I.
Think
it's
going
to
need
to
be
addressed
with
some
of
the
other
developments,
particularly
if
you
know
if
a
building
becomes
a
restaurant,
you
have
to
think
about
what
that
does
to
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood
and
it
just
forces
people
to
make
parking
wherever
they
can.
You
know:
they've
been
there
before
the
restaurant
now
they're
trying
to
figure
out
what
can
I
do
now
and
what
we
try
to
do
is
be
really
respectful
of
the
neighborhood
and
any
of
our
tenants.
H
A
H
H
A
A
F
A
G
G
It's
the
same
style
which
is
very
distinctive
and
whether
you
like
it
or
not
it,
it
would
be
better
I
think
for
the
streetscape
to
have
it
conform
to
the
to
the
building
to
the
north
and
and
the
fact
that
that
is
how
that
building
of
the
north
was
designed
with
this
four
foot.
Extension
I
think
that
that
consistency
is
important,
so
I
think
I
think
any
other
site.
I
might
have
a
different
opinion,
but
I
think
on
this.
One
I
think
it's
okay.
I
I
understand
the
the
architectural
president
that
has
been
set
to
the
north
may
not
get
that
I
I
still
have
problems,
I
guess
with
the
extension
coming
into
the
basically
the
public
right-of-way.
It
seems
to
me
that
if
we
are
going
to
Grant
a
a
release
from
the
front
setback
at
the
very
least,
everything
about
the
building
should
fit
within
the
lot
line,
including
the
projection.
I
It's
a
massive
it's
a
massive
building
when
you
combine
it
with
the
other
right
there
as
you
as
you
come
around
the
corner.
I
do
understand
the
issues
with
the
front
yard.
I
can
see
why
that
presents
a
problem
and
I
do
really
think
that
the
inner
Courtyard
is
a
very,
very
creative
way
of
dealing
with
providing
some
open
space.
I
J
Yeah
I'm
I'm
for
granting
the
the
variance
I
think
the
the
applicant
is
only
requesting
the
very
minimum
necessary
in
order
to
be
consistent
with
the
the
building
to
the
north,
and
it
would
be.
It
would
be
a
shame
if
they
had
to
modify
the
design
to
be
in
compliance
with
the
letter
of
the
code,
but
then
not
fit.
The
architecture
and
aesthetic
of
the
other
building
they're,
not
asking
for
much
I.
Think
they're
just
trying
to
be
consistent
with
precedent
already
on
the
Block,
and
we
should
Grant
to
it.
A
K
Am
in
support
of
this
project,
I
reviewed
it
carefully.
It's
as
commissioner
halik
mentioned
it's
a
distinctive
style,
and
it
continues.
One
of
the
I
would
call
them
the
better
projects
of
the
door
and
I'm
not
confused
about
the
projection.
It's
a
strange
thing
of
the
international
building
code,
but
that's
the
code.
Yes,
and
you
can
really
do
that
over
the
right
of
way.
There
are
other
things
that
should
be
considered
like
distance
to
the
trees
and
the
distance
to
electrical
lines.
K
A
A
If
someone
does
not
agree
with
me,
please
feel
free
to
voice
your
opinion
at
that
particular
time
number
one
is
the
requested
variation
will
not
have
a
substantial
adverse
impact
on
the
use,
enjoyment
or
property
values
of
adjoining
properties
in
looking
at
this
particular
project
and
the
Improvement
that
would
be
made
by
this
particular
building
and
how
it
fits
into
existing
structures
around
it.
I
do
believe
that
this
standard
has
been
met.
A
Obviously
developing
this
this
product,
this
property
into
something
that
is
more
in
use
for
that
neighborhood,
which
is
one
of
our
mixed-use
areas,
does
seem
to
make
sense
to
me.
So
I
believe
that
standard
is
met.
Number
two.
The
requested
variation
is
in
keeping
with
the
intent
of
the
zoning
ordinance
again
going
back
to
the
fact
that
we
look
for
the
zoning
ordinance
in
10.
The
intent
of
the
intents
of
the
zoning
ordinance
is
to
rehabilitate
project
properties
to
make
them
more
usable
over
time,
and
so
with
this
particular
property
again.
A
A
So
I
believe
that,
because
of
the
property
next
to
it,
it
creates
a
particular
art.
It
creates
a
peculiarity
to
this
particular
property,
so
that
standard
is
met.
I'm
number
four,
the
property
owner
would
suffer
a
particular
hardship
of
practical
difficulties.
Distinguished
from
a
mere
inconvenience
of
the
strict
letter
of
the
regulations
were
to
be
carried
out,
we
did
talk
about
the
parking
that
is
being
used
in
the
back.
Moving
the
building
to
the
East
would
would
impact
on
the
parking
and
I
think
if
we're
looking
for
trade-offs.
A
The
parking
is
one
of
the
particular
things
that
I'm
not
willing
to
trade
off,
particularly
in
that
in
that
neighborhood,
where
parking
is
of
a
premium,
so
I
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
five.
The
purpose
of
the
variation
is
not
based
exclusively
upon
a
desire
to
extract
additional
income
from
the
property,
or
that
there
is
a
public
benefit.
There's
nothing
I
mean.
Obviously
this
is
a
developer
who's
come
to
us.
A
We
hope
that
they
make
money
on
projects,
because
that's
the
only
way
they
continue
to
develop
within
the
City
of
Evanston,
but
there's
nothing
that
I've
seen
that
that
says
that
this
extra
little
square
footage
that
he's
requesting
is
going
to
suddenly
increase
the
income
that
he's
able
to
make
off
this
property.
So
I
believe
that
standard
is
met.
Number
six,
the
alleged
difficulty
or
hardship
has
not
been
created
by
any
person
having
an
interest
in
the
property.
A
This
area
was
developed
quite
a
while
ago.
We
heard
some
testimony
that
one
of
the
things
that
we're
looking
at
is
the
building
to
the
north
and
how
it
plays
with
the
proposed
project
and
that
that
building
had
been
built
somewhere
around
the
1920s
and
amended
several
times
since
then,
and
Mr
spatz
has
acquired
this
property
some
years
ago.
But
it's
not
really.
The
situations
that
he's
asking
for
relief
for
are
not
situations
that
he
has
created
so
I
believe
that
standard
is
met
and
number
seven.
A
The
requested
variation
requires
the
least
deviation
from
the
applicable
regulation
among
the
feasible
options
identified
before
land
use.
Commission
I
believe
this
standard
is
met
also
because
of
the
fact
that
the
the
request
seems
to
be
a
minor
request
in
looking
at
the
project
overall
and
like
I
said
when
we're
looking
for
trade-offs.
I
would
much
rather
offer
parking
and
and
Grant
this
relief
to
the
front
of
the
property.
It
already
seems
to
be
again
married
nicely
with
the
building
next
to
it
on
the
North,
so
that
standard
is
met.
A
A
A
K
A
B
A
A
E
Ordinance
title
six
of
the
municipal
code
to
establish
a
zoning
definition
for
cannabis
consumption,
lounges,
section,
618
definitions,
special
regulations
for
cannabis,
consumption,
lounges,
section,
6411,
special
regulations
pertaining
to
cannabis,
cannabis
related
uses
and
to
establish
cannabis
consumption
lounges
as
eligible
special
uses
in
certain
non-residential
zoning
districts.
Sections
6-9
through
615
the
land
use
commission
makes
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council,
the
determining
body
for
this
case,
in
accordance
with
section
6346
of
the
Evanston
zoning
code
and
ordinance
92021.
E
Thank
you,
chair
Rogers,
so
this
came
about
through
an
aldermanic
referral
from
council
member
Burns
and
has
been
discussed
from
a
health
perspective
at
the
Human
Services
committee
and
is
now
doing
the
other
counterpart
of
that
with
the
zoning
tax
amendment.
At
this
point,
no
regulations
have
proceeded
on
to
city
council
for
a
final
determination,
and
the
intent
is
that
all
regulations
would
travel
together.
E
At
this
point,
we
are
coming
back
to
to
discuss
whether
it
is
appropriate
to
add
consumption
lounges
as
an
eligible
use
and
strike
that
that
limitation
that
that
currently
limits
on-site
consumption
So
within
the
staff
memo.
We
have
gone
through
what
a
few
other
communities
in
Illinois
are
doing.
There
are
a
few
communities
that
have
legalized
this.
There
are
obviously
many
that
have
not
of
note
in
the
communities
that
have
legalized
it.
There
are
two
ways
that
consumption
lounges
can
come
about.
E
Looking
at
potential
regulations,
we
would
need
to
establish
a
definition,
any
special
regulations
and
then
what
districts
to
locate
in
so
staff
is
recommending
that,
if
this
is
an
appropriate
request
for
Evanston
that
you
consider
zoning
districts
that
are
similar
to
dispensaries,
since
they
would
essentially
be
required
to
collect
co-locate
there
anyway,
a
generally
basic
zoning
definition
that
does
list
cannabis
consumption
as
well
as
tobacco
pipe
hookah
Etc
smoke
altogether,
because
from
a
land
use
perspective.
That
is
all
similar.
E
E
And
then,
if
there
are
any
special
regulations
that
would
need
to
be
added
in
such
as
staff
would
suggest
that
there
would
be
some
kind
of
operations
agreement
to
cover
any
additional
specifics
that
are
needed
all
together.
If
this
is
an
appropriate
proposal
for
Evanston
staff
does
recommend
that
it
be
a
special
use
that
is
treated
as
an
accessory
use.
E
A
little
bit
of
both
we
do
have
an
active
application
right
now
for
a
cannabis
dispensary
for
100
Chicago
Avenue.
There
is
no
proposal
for
a
consumption
lounge
with
that
one.
It
is
a
dispensary
as
well
as
a
type
2
Restaurant
with
no
cannabis
consumption
at
the
restaurant.
So
we
do
have
that
application
that
will
be
proceeding
to
the
land
use
commission
shortly,
but
not
for
a
consumption
Lounge.
E
G
G
K
A
C
However,
proponents
don't
see
problems
no
concerns
about
second-hand
smoke.
Since
customers
they
say,
will
voluntarily
go
to
adequately
ventilated
lounges
and
that
employees
have
a
choice
to
work
there
or
not,
but
according
to
CDC
and
HVAC
experts,
current
heating,
ventilating
and
air
conditioning
systems
alone
do
not
control
second-hand
smoke
exposure.
C
C
The
National
Highway
Traffic
and
safety
administration
considers
driving
after
using
marijuana
as
socially
unacceptable
as
driving
drunk
the
AAA
simply
says
simply
put
if
you
consume
cannabis,
don't
drive
if
you
plan
to
drive,
don't
consume
cannabis.
Lounges
have
legal
liability
as
well
similar
to
alcohol,
that
is
called
gram.
C
Commission
members
approving
cannabis
lounges
would
counter
your
own
commission
objectives
of
ensuring
the
public
health
safety,
Comfort,
morals,
convenience
and
general
welfare
of
Evanston.
Please
follow
the
advice
of
Public
Health
legal
Traffic,
Safety
experts
and
our
own
health
department
that
approving
cannabis,
lounges
in
Evanston
goes
contrary
to
Public,
Health
and
education
of
our
youth.
These
lounges
may
also
open
the
door
not
only
to
endure
cannabis
consumption
but,
as
we've
heard
tobacco,
possibly
hookah,
cigars
and
vaping.
M
I'm
Bruce
doble
I'm
a
practicing
internist
I've,
been
working
at
Evanston
since
since
2014
and
I'm
also
an
advisor
to
the
Department
of
Health
and
Human
Services
here
in
Evanston.
For
most
of
that
period,
I'll
just
make
a
few
comments.
The
work
of
the
Evanston
health
department
has
shown
it's
to
be
a
very
prudent,
thoughtful
and
evidence-based
organization.
M
I
think
many
of
our
concerns
around
this
really
are
looking
at
the
excuse
me.
The
science
is
currently
known
and
that
that's
Unknown
about
cannabis
consumption,
we're
already
finding
serious
concerns
amongst
adolescents,
with
brain
development
and
cognitive
concerns,
and
just
last
month,
studies
linked,
regular
cannabis
use
to
evidence
of
heart
disease,
so
I
think
it's
very
early
I
think
we're
going
to
see
more
and
more
damaging
results
from
the
use
of
cannabis
and
the
Cannabis
Lounge.
M
Really
it
is
another
way
of
encouraging
encouraging
use
that
the
department
feels
isn't
the
way
we'd
like
to
go
here
in
Evanston.
It
inconsistent
with
the
current
rules
that
prevent
hookah,
lounges
I,
think
that
was
a
wise
move
made
by
the
council
I'm,
not
sure
why
we
would
want
to
go
against
that.
We'd
have
to
open
up
that
consideration
again
if
we
open
it
up
for
this
special
use
permit.
M
There
has
been
claims
that
other
communities
have
done
this
in
the
past.
That
seems
like
an
awfully
poor
argument.
If
you
look
at
the
details
of
the
staff
report,
it's
pretty
comprehensive.
These
institutions
have
had
significant
restrictions
placed
on
the
way
that
they
operate
because
of
the
acknowledged
risks.
I
think
we'd
have
to
think
about
that
also
and
and
lastly,
I
think
that
opening
opening
up
consumption
lounges
as
Dr
Siegler
had
talked
about,
has
significant
public
health
concerns
and
I
think
that's.
A
M
N
N
For
example,
when
we
banned
in
2005
smoking
in
public
places,
Evanston
was
one
of
the
many
Community
one
of
the
first
many
communities
who
did
so
and
not
only
that
in
2014
we
increase.
We
had
the
first
community
that
increased
the
age
in
which
you
can
sell
or
purchase
tobacco
in
Evanston.
So
the
way
that
I
look
at
this
is
we're
going
to
be
moving
backwards
in
terms
of
Public,
Health
and
Community
Health.
N
If
we
establish
cannabis,
consumption,
lounges
and
someone,
some
might
argue
to
say
well,
you
know
these
are
individuals
who
want
to
be
exposed
who
want
to
smoke
and
they
have
a
an
Avenue
or
a
place
where
they
can
go.
But
our
job
here
as
the
public
health
officials
is
to
ensure
the
public
health
of
the
entire
community
and
even
with
the
ventilation
systems
that
they
say
you
can
put
in
place
where
individuals
are
not
exposed.
N
Epa
provides
recommendations
in
that
regards
saying
that
the
smoke
and
the
water
can
be
removed,
but
the
toxins
that
are
in
cannabis
will
be
hard
to
eliminate
totally
and
the
same
substances
that
you
find
in
cigarette
smoke
that
are
harmful.
You
also
find
in
cannabis
so
from
a
public
health
perspective.
It
is
not
a
move
that
we
are
willing
to
to
accept
at
this
at
this
moment
or
even
ever,
and
this
topic
is
quite
quite
new
and
is
on
chatted
and
and
I.
Think
at
this
point.
This
is
not
the
way
the
way
to
proceed.
N
N
If
we
allow
in
cannabis
smoking
in
in
Evanston,
it's
heavily
distracts
a
heavily
removes
what
we
are
trying
to
pursue,
which
is
advancing
Health
Health
Equity.
So
we
do
have
an
ordinance
in
place
that
this
allows
us
to
clean
an
act
that
disallows
smoking
in
particular
areas,
private
residences
or
exempt
from
it.
N
Even
though
the
state
allows
some
smoking
within
15
feet
of
a
door
and
a
window
or
ventilation
in
Tech,
we've
actually
made
ours
more
restrictive,
where
you'll
have
to
smoke
25
feet
away
from
from
these
these
areas,
So
speaking
about
the
e-plan,
you
can
actually
see
how
Airlines
what
we
are
trying
to
do,
which
is
assuring
Community,
Health
public
health
and
improving
the
health
of
our
community
members
and
establishing
a
consumption,
Lounge
I.
Don't
think
that's
the
way
to
go.
It.
D
N
D
N
Before
we
sent
it
to
to
the
states,
we
presented
it
to
the
Human
Services
committee
for
them
to
weigh
in
on
what
we
are
trying
to
pursue,
and
it
is
a
sobering
document.
It
is
a
well
executed
document
or
robust
one
at
that
which
they
provided
some
input
and
and
reviewed
before.
We
send
it
over
to
the
state
and.
A
G
I
disagree:
I
I
think
that
if
we
had
heard
that
there
was
a
you
knew
about
an
an
applicant
that
was
coming
to
us
with
this
idea
of
doing
a
smoke,
lounge
or
then
I
would
say,
maybe
tie
the
two
together,
but
I.
Think
I
personally
would
like
to
communicate
our
our
commission's
attitude
toward
this
to
anyone
who
is
even
considering
doing
this,
whether
it's
Pro
or
or
again
so
I
think
that
we
should.
We
should
discuss
this
now
and
vote
on
it
now.
D
Well,
I
think
that
you
know
one
of
the
things
I'd
like
to
ask
staff
is:
it
seems
that
an
estate
provisions
of
cannabis
consumption
Lounge
would
have
to
be
in
a
freestanding
structure
and
obviously
the
100
Chicago
Avenue
is
its
apartments
above
the
dispensaries
in
the
city's
parking
garage,
the
building
on
Chicago
Avenue,
you
know,
I,
don't
know
what
the
thought
is
that
there's
a
vacant.
You
know
first
floor
space,
but
the
basement
is
occupied,
so
our
you
know
do
any
of
those
locations
even
begin
to
qualify
as
a
freestanding
structure.
E
I
believe
the
1633
Chicago
Avenue
location
is
considered
a
freestanding
structure,
even
though
it
has
multiple
tenants.
It's
just
a
one-story
building.
It's
right
next
to
the
big
building
that
that
had
a
plan
development
recently
proposed
for
it,
but
it
is
its
own
Standalone
building
I
do
believe
it's
very
close
to
the
adjacent
building,
but
my
understanding
is
that
it
does.
It
is
considered,
freestanding.
J
I
I'd,
like
to
vote
on
it
tonight,
I
agree
that
you
can't
vote
to
recommend
something
if
we
don't
have
something
more
definitive
to
actually
review
and
recommend.
But
in
this
case,
like
you,
said,
Matt
I
think
it's
way
ahead
of
itself,
because
it's
not
even
clear
to
me
if
there's
a
compelling
swell
of
Desire
or
need
from
the
city
or
the
community
to
have
this.
The
only
initiation
of
this
topic
I'm
seeing
is
just
council
member
Burns's
request.
D
Well,
my
feeling
is
that
I
think
that
it's
important
for
us
to
decide
whether
or
not
cannabis
consumption
Lounge
is
something
that,
as
a
commission,
we
even
think
is
appropriate
in
Evanston,
and
you
know
my
my
real
issue
with
this
and
in
reading
the
you
know,
the
staff
memo.
That's
talking
about
Mundelein
in
their
rules
and
my
question.
There
was
actually
a
planning
webinar
earlier
today
that
included
staff
from
from
Mundelein,
and
my
question
to
them
was
whether
or
not
they
allowed
tobacco
stores
and
vape.
D
You
know
a
fee
of
twenty
eight
hundred
dollars
a
year
for
a
for
a
lounge,
so
I
think
that
the
you
know
the
potential
arguments
is
somehow
is
going
to
be.
A
revenue
producer
is,
you
know,
is
not
a
a
good
argument
and
you
know
so.
I
I
I
I
think
that
this
whole
proposal
is
problematic
to
begin
with
and
if
we
continue
this
I'll
kind
of
go
through
some
of
those
other
reasons,
but
I'd
like
to
hear
kind
of
what
other
people's
thoughts
are
and.
A
L
Just
want
to
State
that
I
concur
strongly
with
what
commissioner
lindwall
just
said
about
this
being
really
inconsistent
with
the
fact
that
our
city
doesn't
allow
consumption
Lodges
of
tobacco,
so
that
was
the
first
thing
that
struck
me
upon
reading
this
and
then
I
think
our
Public
Health
director
put
it
very
well
this.
This
would
be
a
giant
step
backward
in
terms
of
the
the
whole
smoke-free
movement.
L
C
L
K
That's
something
I
will
agree
also
with
other
Commissioners
I.
Think
that
if
we
put
something
in
the
zoning
ordinance
again
before
we
have
any
applications,
probably
will
kind
of
invite
people
to
ask
for
this.
It
opens
opens
the
door
for
all
right
come
here.
We
may
allow
it,
so
it's
better
to
stop
it
at
the
until
they
start
so
I
have
enough
support
all
right.
Thank
you.
K
A
So
here's
where
we
are
I
don't
know
that
we
need
to
belabor
the
point.
If
we
just
want
to
say
no,
then
we're
just
going
to
say
no
and
we'll
go
through
the
standards
and
Define
in
the
standards.
Why?
No
and
I'm
perfectly
fine
doing
that
because,
like
I
said,
we
don't
necessarily
prevent
somebody
from
bringing
this
to
us
again,
but
we
can
make
emphatically
our
statement
of
no
at
this
particular
moment.
K
D
But
I
I
think
that
you
know
it's.
It's
really
kind
of
important
to
understand
how
comprehensive
plans
have
evolved.
You
know
50
years
ago.
You
know
the
focus
was
really
on
land
use
and
transportation
and
maybe
public
facilities
Evanston
actually
was
pretty.
You
know
Forward
Thinking
when
they
adopted
their
1974
comprehensive
plan
and
started
to
focus
on
the
environment.
You
know
the
energy
conservation
and
and
the
like.
D
The
evanston's,
1986
and
2000
plans
expanded
the
emphasis
to
include
more
policies
on
the
environment,
historic
preservation,
the
Arts
and
Civic
design
kind
of
shortly
after
that,
the
state
of
Illinois
adopted
some.
You
know
guidelines
for
what
a
comprehensive
plan
ought
to
include
and
that
you
know
included
kind
of
telecommunications,
and
you
know
Broad
band
and
internet
connectivity,
which
are
brand
new
Concepts
in
the
early
2000s
and
I.
D
Think
that
you
know,
as
we
move
forward
on
developing
our
next
comprehensive
plan,
we
really
need
to
be
even
more
in,
encompassing
so
I
think
current
comprehensive
plans
that
I've
seen
they
include
things
like
Economic
Development,
which
really
is
much
more
than
just
business
and
Industrial
districts.
It
includes
you,
know:
Workforce,
Development
and
improving
quality
of
life,
Mobility,
climate
action
and
Hazard
mitigation
and
resiliency
and
I
think,
probably,
most
importantly,
it
is.
D
You
know
the
the
notion
of
a
comprehensive
plan
policies
that
focus
on
creating
healthy
communities,
and
you
know
we
have
lots
of
examples
that
plans
that
have
been
developed
and
adopted
that
need
to
be
incorporated
into
the
new
comprehensive
plan.
So
you
know
when
we
do
it
so
I
think
that
in
thinking
about
whether
or
not
this
standard
is
met,
we
need
to
be
think
more
broadly
about
whether
or
not
this
proposed
consumption.
D
A
A
positive
recommendation
and
reminder
that
we
are
only
a
recommending
body
on
this
particular
case,
so
those
four
standards
are
up
on
the
screen
there,
the
first
one
being
whether
the
proposed
amendment
is
consistent
with
the
goals,
objectives
and
policies
of
the
comprehensive
General
plan
is
adopted
and
amended
from
time
to
time
by
the
city.
Council.
I
will
lean
heavily
into
what
commissioner
lindwall
said.
A
We
do
have
a
comprehensive
General
plan,
but
it
doesn't
address
anything
that
is
currently
going
on
in
the
City
of
Evanston,
because
it
is
almost
20
years
old
and
is
desperately
in
need
of-
maybe
that's
a
slight
over
exaggeration,
but
it
doesn't
address
many
things
that
have
come
to
light.
It
doesn't
address
any
of
the
climate
issues
that
we
currently
look
at.
It
doesn't
address
any
of
the
affordable
housing
issues
that
we
currently
look
at.
A
This
is
something
that
I
don't
think
that
the
actual
Lounge
itself,
when
we
look
at
the
structure
itself
is
the
problem.
It's
the
activity
and
the
use
of
the
of
that
particular
structure,
so
I
I
think
the
standard
is
Matt,
see
whether
the
proposed
amendment
would
have
an
adverse
effect
on
the
value
of
adjacent
properties.
Again,
I,
don't
know
that
that
having
a
consumption
Lounge
is
going
to
drastically
impact
properties.
We've
seen
that
we've
we've
decided
to
permit
dispensaries
in
town
we've,
not
seen
any
great
decline
in
values.
A
G
Hallock
the
sticking
point
I
have
on
this,
though,
is
the
ventilation
issue,
because
I
don't
know
that
there
is
technology,
maybe
there
is,
but
that
will
totally
prevent.
In
fact
this
was
addressed,
I
believe
all
the
carcinogens
and
whatever
else
is
coming
out
of
this
potential
facility,
so
that
affects
adjacent
properties,
so
I,
don't
think
all.
A
A
A
A
A
N
D
N
A
A
D
D
D
A
D
A
Know:
okay,
I'm
going
to
thank
law
for
their
advice,
but
I'm
going
to
move
ahead
and
say
we're
going
to
make
a
negative.
So
please
strike
the
last
motion
if
that's
acceptable
by
the
person
who
moved
and
accepted
and
seconded
and
I
will
now
ask
I
will
now
ask
for
a
motion
that
we
recommend
a
denial
of
the
proposed
text.
Amendment.
A
B
A
A
O
Thank
you,
chair
Rogers,
so
just
a
quick
update
at
the
March
27th,
so
next
Monday
city
council
meeting
staff
will
be
giving
a
presentation
on
the
request
for
proposals
for
the
comprehensive
plan
and
Zoning
code
update
if
you're
interested
please
tune
in
and
also
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
staff.
We're
happy
to
go
over
that
request
for
a
proposal,
but
we
will
not
be
emailing
that
out
ahead
of
us
sending
out
that
solicitation.
O
I
A
At
this
point,
I
would
like
to
make
a
referral
under
section
2194b
of
the
municipal
code
that
gives
the
land
use.
Commission
the
authority
to
initiate
studies,
reports
and
recommendations
to
the
city,
council,
city
manager
or
officials
of
other
local
governmental
bodies
on
matters
concerning
the
present
or
future
development
or
Redevelopment
of
the
city.
I
would
like
to
refer
to
staff
the
following
matters:
to
establish
a
unified
signed
plan
process
which
would
update
definition
and
intent.
Creating
a
process
for
us
to
be
the
deter.
A
The
land
use
commission
to
be
the
determining
body
and
requiring
signage
over
50
feet
in
height,
be
referred
to
city
council
as
a
recommendation
that
we
also
examine
signage
variations
and
create
standards
for
approval,
updating
eligible
minor
and
major
variations
for
signs
and
creating
signed
standards
which
would
make
the
most
sign
variations.
Minors,
minor
variations
and
creating
separate
standards
that
are
simpler
than
existing
variation
standards.
I
would
like
to
recommend
it
that
we
expand
the.
A
We
explore
expanding
the
Tod
map
to
appropriate
radius
development
of
a
map
amendment
to
provide
consistent
buffer
distances
with
one
recommended
across
all
zoning
distances,
but
make
no
changes
to
the
existing
Transit
oriented
development
parking
requirements
that
are
currently
existing,
that
we
also
update
continuance
language
to
be
consistent
with
the
with
the
Luc
rules.
Currently,
there
is
some
discrepancy
between
the
ordinance
and
our
rules
on
whether
a
condition
or
whether
a
continuance
may
be
granted
or
shall
be
granted
so
I
would
like
that
to
be
explored.
A
I
would
also
request
a
change
to
the
unique
use
to
Unique
adaptive
use
process,
so
it
would
be
open
to
all
areas
and
not
just
in
the
R1
Landmark
districts.
That
would
require
a
special
use
instead
of
many
variations.
Currently
what
we
are
doing
and
allow
any
density
that
we
fixed
the
wording
for
no
curb
cut
when
the
alley
accesses
present.
A
That's
a
lot,
but
that
is
my
recommendation.
I
will
send
this
in
writing
to
staff
and
I
will
also
copy
the
mayor
per
my
agreement
with
the
mayor
that
whenever
we
make
referrals,
he
will
also
be
copied
on
these,
and
hopefully
we
can
move
forward
on
some
of
these
issues,
because
some
of
these
issues
will
be
coming
to
us
in
rather
quick
coming
to
us
rather
quickly
in
the
next
few
months.
G
O
O
In
addition
to
the
Dapper
piece,
that
referral
also
recommends
the
creation
of
a
Urban
Design
commission
that
would
the
purpose
and
intent
has
yet
to
be
solidified.
But
we
do
anticipate
that
there
will
be
a
discussion
with
the
Planning
and
Development
Committee
prior
to
the
end
of
the
second
quarter.
So
June
30th
I
believe
is
the
date.
O
A
A
I
will
send
to
staff
and
the
mayor
at
the
same
time
and
then
ask
staff
to
please
refer
that
on
to
all
the
rest
of
the
Commissioners,
and
this
by
no
means
means
that
this
is
everything
that
we
need
to
do.
But
since
we
are
dealing
with
an
old,
comprehensive
General
plan,
as
well
as
an
old
zoning
plan,
we're
trying
to
make
changes
as
things
come
up
and
as
things
move
forward
to
try
to
address
those
until
we
can
actually
get
a
new
comp
plan
and
then
hopefully
a
fresh
zoning
ordinance
as
well.