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A
A
Good
evening
and
welcome
this
is
the
May
24th
2023
public
hearing
of
the
land
use
commission.
The
city
code
directs
this
body
to
hear
applications
for
map
and
text
amendments
special
uses,
including
plan
developments,
zoning
relief
and
appeals
from
decisions
of
the
zoning
administrator,
as
well
as
to
make
recommendations
regarding
the
city's
long-term
planning
goals
and
objectives.
Depending
on
the
type
of
matter.
This
commission
will
either
make
a
final
determination
or
send
its
recommendation
to
city
council.
B
A
Not
six
with
six
members
present,
we
do
have
a
quorum
also
present
tonight
from
City
staff,
our
planner
Katie
ashbaugh
zoning
administrator
Melissa,
klotz
planning
manager,
Liz,
Williams
and
assistant
City
attorney
Brian
George.
This
is
a
formal
hearing
and
there
are
rules
that
govern
our
proceedings.
Most
importantly,
only
one
person
speaks
at
a
time
so
that
all
testimony
may
be
accurately
recorded.
Anyone
who
wishes
to
address
the
commission
regarding
any
matter
on
tonight's
agenda
will
have
the
opportunity
to
do
so
at
the
appropriate
time.
A
Our
procedure
is
to
hear
from
staff
on
the
file
on
the
documents
on
file
and
then
receive
testimony
and
other
evidence
from
the
applicant
or
repellent
after
that.
Person's
wishing
to
make
a
statement
regarding
the
matter
will
have
a
chance
to
do
so.
Any
person
with
a
legal
interest
in
property
located
within
the
defined
notification
requirements
of
the
subject.
Property
may
present
evidence
reasonably
questioned,
Witnesses
or
seek
a
continuance
of
the
hearing.
When
all
supporting
and
opposing
testimonial
statements
have
been
heard,
the
applicant
or
repellent
will
be
given
the
opportunity
for
rebuttal
or
closing
statement.
A
Then
the
commission
will
close
the
record
and
begin
deliberations
to
consider
the
standards.
The
commission
will
make
formal
findings
a
fact,
based
on
the
testimony
and
evidence
presented
guide
by
Guided
by
the
standards,
the
commissioner's
knowledge
of
the
community
and
the
recommendations
of
staff.
All
testimony
is
taken
under
oath,
although
we
do
not
apply
the
strict
rules
of
evidence.
Please
limit
your
testimony
to
the
proposal
as
it
relates
to
the
standards
contained
in
the
zoning
ordinance
and
the
corresponding
staff
memorandum.
A
We're
testifying,
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
and
sign
in
on
the
provided
public
comment
sheet.
Our
meetings
are
audio
and
video
recorded.
Please
make
sure
that
you're
at
a
microphone
when
asking
questions
or
making
statements
so
that
you
can
be
properly
recorded.
All
proceedings
are
subject
to
broadcast
at
a
later
date.
Any
matter
not
concluded
that
tonight's
hearing
will
be
continued
to
our
next
regularly
scheduled
meeting
on
tonight's
agenda.
We
do
have
three
items
in
new
business.
A
The
first
one
is
831,
Foster,
Street
and
I'm
just
going
to
take
attendance
as
the
applicant
here.
Thank
you
1806
through
1808
Dempster
Street
applicant
is
here
and
the
last
one
is
actually
a
city
Omnibus.
So
we're
here
with
that
I'm
going
to
move
to
the
first
item
on
our
agenda,
which
is
approval
of
the
meeting
minutes
for
May
10
2023..
Has
everyone
had
a
chance
to
read
through
those
and
is
there
a
motion
to
approve.
D
D
A
Opposed
and
does
anyone
have
to
abstain?
I
was
going
to
say,
commissioner
Johnson
will
be
abstain
because
he
was
not
at
that
meeting,
so
the
motion
carries
and
those
minutes
are
approved
with
that.
We
will
move
into
the
first
case
on
tonight's
agenda,
which
is
831
Foster,
Street
and
I
would
ask
that
that
be
read
into
the
record.
Please.
B
Muhammad
Abdel
majeed
lessee
requests
a
special
use
permit
for
a
convenience
store
to
sell
food
beverages,
household
goods
and
tobacco
in
the
B1
business
district
under
city
code,
section
6923,
the
land
use
commission
makes
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council,
the
determining
body
for
this
case
per
city
code,
section
6358.
This
is
zoningcase23
zmjv-0026
and
is
a
public
hearing
for
a
special
use
at
831,
Foster
Street.
A
Thank
you
with
that.
The
chair
will
open
the
public
testimony
into
this
case
regarding
831,
Foster,
Street
and
I'll.
Ask
that
anyone
who
may
be
speaking
to
us
tonight
on
this
matter,
please
be
sworn
at
this
time.
By
raising
your
right
hand,
you
can
all
just
do
it
from
your
seat.
If
anybody's
going
to
give
testimony,
do
you
do
you
swear
or
a
firm
to
tell
the
truth
throughout
the
course
of
these
proceedings?
Thank
you.
Now
you
can
come
on
up
and
if
you'd
introduce
yourself
to
us,
please.
E
Hey
my
name
is
Mohammed
Abdul
majeed
I'm,
looking
to
open
a
convenience
store
at
831,
Foster
Street
I
thought
it
was.
You
know
a
great
location
for
the
students
and
the
community
right
by
the
Foster
train
station
and
thought
that
it
would
be
a
good
spot
for
our
business.
C
Yeah
I
have
one
all
right,
maybe
two
with
respect
to
you
know.
You
indicated
that
you're
intending
to
sell
Deli
items
and
and
cold
sandwiches
could
you
describe
kind
of
how
that
operation
will
work
or
are
they
pre-packaged
sandwiches?
Are
you
slicing
the
meats
there.
E
Yeah,
so
the
meats
are
gonna,
so
all
the
deli
meats
are
placed
into
a
deli
fridge
and
really
we're
gonna
slice.
It
based
off
of
you
know,
customer
demand.
So
let's
say
a
customer
orders,
a
pastrami
sandwich,
we'll
pull
out
the
meat
put
it
in
the
slicer
slice
it
up
and
you
know,
make
it
fresh
for
customers
rather
than
like
pre-packaged
items.
So
it's
gonna,
be
you
know,
regular.
C
Cash
yeah
and
then
I
guess
well.
This
is
not
necessarily
a
zoning
issue.
Are,
have
you
been
in
contact
with
the
health
department
to
see
about
what
kinds
of
food
service
certifications
are
required.
E
Yeah
I
haven't
got
the
chance
to
I,
did
speak
with
I
believe
it
was
Melissa.
Sorry,
yeah,
Ellen.
E
I
did
speak
with
Ellen
I
just
haven't
followed
through
the
whole
process,
yet
with
the
health
application
stuff
I'm,
not
at
that
step.
As
of
yet.
F
Do
you
have
do
you
have
other
stores
like
this
anywhere
else,
how.
E
Yeah
so
I've
actually
brought
my
family
members
today,
and
you
know
we've
been
doing
this
for
almost
like
10
years.
One
of
the
closest
ones
we
have
in
the
north
side
of
Chicago
is
Hollywood
Deli
right
off
of
Lakeshore
Drive,
so
it's
Sheridan
and
Hollywood
Avenue
and
we've
had
that
start
for
about
five
years.
So.
F
E
The
only
thing
that
won't
be
packaged
would
probably
be
the
toppings
So,
like
those
we're
gonna,
have
like
a
salad
table
where
we're
going
to
have
like
the
ingredients
set
out,
but
everything
has
like
an
expiration
date
and
whatnot,
but
yeah
I
would
say.
The
solid
table
is
the
only
thing
that's
going
to
be
opened.
E
Yes,
so
if
you
go
by
the
Delhi
counter
yeah,
so
that's
the
three
compartment
sink
right
to
the
right
little
to
the
right
yeah.
So
that's
that's
going
to
be
where
the
deli
fridges,
as
well
as
the
salad
prep
table.
So
that's
where
we're
going
to
be
making
the
sandwiches
so
there's
going
to
be,
you
know
a
hand
wash
sink
right
behind.
You
know
this
the
sellot
table,
so
you
know,
prior
and
before
we
prepare
any
sandwiches.
We
had
the
sink
right
behind
us.
G
E
So
yeah
I
mean
we
do
plan
on
having
disposable
winds,
obviously
behind
the
deli
counter,
and
then
there
there
is
a
hallway
that
leads
to
the
back
where
we
have
the
option
to
both
recycle
as
well,
as
you
know,
put
it
in.
You
know
the
regular
garbage
bin
and
whatnot
I
believe
we
have
three
garbage
cans
and
the
garbage
truck
comes
twice
a
week.
I
believe
it
was
Tuesday
and
Friday,
but
yeah.
E
Yeah,
so
actually
in
the
back
of
831,
faster
Deli
in
the
rear.
Here,
let
me
maybe
if
you
pull
up
the
the
floor
plan,
I
can
show
you.
So
there
is
a.
E
G
G
E
D
G
E
Definitely
I
believe
we
have
a
good
amount
of
resources
to.
You
know
make
sure
that
we
have
a
healthy
and
clean
environment.
Like
I
said,
the
landlord
gave
us
three
garbage
bins
as
well.
As
you
know,
the
garbage
truck
is
going
to
be
coming
twice
a
week,
so
we
we
should
be
prepared
for
that
and.
E
Absolutely
we're
counting
on
both
you
know:
foot
foot
traffic
as
well,
as
you
know,
students
or
community
members
from
the
Foster
train
station.
Thank
you.
A
I
know
just
some
some
simple
questions.
Most
of
these
are
in
the
application,
I
just
kind
of
want
to
get
them
on
the
record.
So
we
have
them
recorded.
What
are
your
planned
hours
of
operation.
A
E
So
it'll
only
be
two
employees,
one
working
at
the
front
register
and
then
one
working
in
the
deli
okay,
yeah.
A
E
A
And
what
size,
what
size
delivery
trucks
is
kind
of
what
I'm
getting
at
here.
Are
you
anticipating,
Vans
kind
of
the
small
box
trucks
I'm,
assuming
there's
no
semis
involved.
E
A
And
where
will
they
be
making
those
deliveries
well,
they're
doing
those
through
the
back
of
the
building
yeah
through
the
rear?
Yes,
and
then
you
are
aware
of
the
because
tobacco
is
one
of
the
items
that
you
have
listed
and
so
the
city
has
made
you
aware
that,
obviously
we
have
a
Prohibition
on
you
selling
more
than
50
of
your
sales
I'm
turning
you
into
a
tobacco
shop,
so
just
wanted
to
make
sure
you're
aware
of
that.
Yes,
and
then
there
was
a
little
bit
of
discussion
on
trash
and
litter.
A
A
And
there
were
some
Department
recommendations
that
were
put
in
the
paperwork
that
was
handed
to
us,
which
were
the
cashier
being
at
the
front
of
the
store,
The
Tobacco
sales,
which
we've
already
talked
about
storefront
window
obstructions,
making
sure
that
there's
trash
near
the
cashier.
So
it's
accessible
to
customers
and
the
litter
collection
plan.
We
talked
about
and
you're
fine
with
all
yep.
E
All
of
those
absolutely
and
as
stated
on
on
here,
the
front
register
is
already
placed
in
the
front.
So
we
have
that
and
then
I
did
label
the
tobacco.
It
was
only
going
to
be
behind
the
counter
and
then
yeah.
Well,
you
know
I'll
put
a
label,
for
you
know
the
Disposable
bin
towards
the
front
as
well.
E
A
Is
there
anybody
else
who
wishes
to
speak
to
us
on
this
matter?
I'm,
not
seeing
anyone?
So
anything
you'd
like
to
say
in
summation
before
we
close
the
record
and
begin
deliberation.
E
Yeah
I
only
had
one
question
so
if
you
can
actually
pull
up
what
we
were
just
looking
at
so
our
bathrooms,
where
so
we
have
bathrooms
already
in
place,
I'm
sort
of
curious.
If
we
need
to
make
any
modifications
for
the
City
of
Evanston,
we
do
have
you
know
a
sink
as
soon
as
you
exit
the
bathroom.
E
The
only
thing
is
this
was
previously
used
by
a
preschool,
so
the
toilets
are
low.
We
do
plan
on
replacing
them
and
then
the
doors
were
cut
in
half,
because
you
know
they
wanted
to
monitor
the
kids.
So
we
do
plan
on
replacing
the
toilet,
making
you
know
putting
a
standard
size
toilet
as
well
as
a
full-size
door,
and
the
bathrooms
aren't
going
to
be
open
to
the
public.
So
it's
only
going
to
be
used
by
the
employees,
but
I
wanted
to
ensure
that
you
know
we
can
keep
the
same
bathrooms.
A
I
E
That
would
be
it.
Thank
you
for
your.
A
Time,
thank
you
with
that.
We'll
close
the
public
testimony
and
move
into
the
deliberation
I'm
getting
a
general
sense
from
the
commission
that
there's
not
a
lot
of
concerns
here.
Are
there
anything?
Is
there
anything
that
someone
feels
should
be
maybe
made
a
condition
that
we've
missed?
Typically,
when
we
do
these
sorts
of
things,
we
do
the
hours,
no
employee
parking
on
the
street,
the
deliveries
coming
in
through
the
rear
and
adherence
to
the
litter
collection
plan.
F
A
To
be
and
that
kind
of
falls
under
our
our
standard
number,
nine,
which,
which
covers
off
on
any
other
applicable
ordinances
for
the
use
in
the
city,
yeah.
C
A
All
right
anything
from
this
side:
okay,
there
are
nine
standards
that
we
must
find
are
met
again.
We
are
recommending
body
in
this
particular
case,
making
a
recommendation
onto
city
council,
and
so
we
will
run
through
those
nine
standards,
the
first
standard
being
it
is
one
of
the
special
uses
specifically
listed
in
the
zoning
ordinance
in
a
B1
business
district.
We
do
find
that
a
store
similar
to
this
is
permitted
a
convenience
store,
and
so
that
standard
is
met.
Number
two.
A
It
is
in
keeping
with
the
purposes
and
policies
of
the
Adaptive
comprehensive
General
plan
and
the
zoning
ordinance
is
amended
from
time
to
time.
The
comprehensive
General
plan
does
encourage
for
development
in
our
business
districts.
Our
B
districts
are
slightly
smaller,
more
neighborhood
oriented
business
districts
as
opposed
to
Commercial
and
downtown.
A
So
finding
a
business
that
would
that
would
make
use
of
a
a
business
space
does
make
sense
and
does
does
meet
that
standard
number
three.
It
will
not
cause
a
negative
accumulative
effect
when
considered
in
conjunction
with
the
cumulative
effect
of
various
special
uses
of
all
types
on
the
immediate
neighborhood.
A
This
standard,
I,
believe,
is
met.
The
the
impact
of
this
store
should
be
minimal.
We've
we've
had
a
little
bit
of
discussion
about.
Most
of
this
will
be
foot
traffic,
so
we
don't
expect
to
have.
You
know
problems
with
with
traffic
on
the
street
and
the
overall
impact
of
of
a
storefront.
That's
about
1100
square
feet,
that's
that's
selling
convenience
type
items
and
Deli
type
items
shouldn't
tax,
the
neighborhood,
so
I
believe
that
standard
is
met.
Number
four
does
not
interfere
with
or
diminish
the
value
of
property
in
the
neighborhood.
A
We
haven't
heard
anybody
showing
up
here,
testifying
that
we
should
be
concerned
about
anything
in
particular,
so
I
believe
that
standard
is
met.
Number
five.
It
can
be
adequately
served
by
public
facilities
and
services.
The
the
building
is
not
going
to
see
a
drastic
increase
from
previous
uses.
We
heard
testimony
that
was
a
daycare
a
day
school
at
one
point,
but
this
this
is
not
something
that
we
really
should
should
be
concerned
about
taxing
again
the
facilities
and
services
number
six.
A
It
does
not
cause
undue
traffic
congestion,
I'll
kind
of
reiterate
what
I
said
a
little
earlier,
that
we
are
anticipating
most
of
the
traffic
for
this
to
be
pedestrian
traffic.
Bicyclists
people
going
to
and
from
the
train,
so
I
believe
that
is,
that
is
fine
line
number
seven.
It
preserves
significant
historical
architectural
resources,
although
I
don't
know
that
there
are
any
for
this
particular
building,
we're
not
looking
at
changing
the
outside
of
the
building,
so
that
standard
is
met.
Number
eight.
A
It
preserves
significant
natural
and
environmental
features
again
without
any
changes
to
the
exterior
of
the
building.
That
standard
is
met
and
number
nine.
It
complies
with
all
other
applicable
regulations
of
the
district
in
which
it
is
located
in
other
applicable
ordinances,
except
to
the
extent
which
those
have
been
modified
through
plan
developments
or
granted
variation.
We
did
have
a
little
bit
of
discussion
just
a
moment
ago
about
obviously
serving
food.
You
will
be
required
to
get
licensing
through
the
health
department
and
they
will
constantly
monitor
your
operations.
A
So
that
would
be
one
of
the
few
things
that
that
would
be
unique
in
this
particular
area,
so
that
standard
is
met.
Is
everyone
in
agreement
with
my
finding
on
standards
with
that
and
keeping
in
mind
those
conditions
that
we've
sort
of
talked
about
earlier,
both
in
the
staff
recommendations,
one
through
five,
as
well
as
the
hours
of
operation
between
6
and
11.,.
A
A
You
know
if
you
wanted
to
suddenly
open
up
at
six
o'clock
to
try
to
catch
more
morning
traffic.
You
don't
have
to
come
back
and
ask
for
additional,
so
6
to
11
and
6
to
12,
which
tends
to
be
sort
of
the
downtown
hours
that
we
keep
for
businesses,
deliveries
being
made
in
the
rear
and
adherence
to
the
litter
collection
plan.
C
Sure
I
move
that
the
land
just
commission
recommend
approval
of
the
special
use
23.
C
Zmjv-0026
at
831,
Foster
Street
for
a
convenience
store
to
the
city
council
subject
to
you
want
me
to
read
the
conditions
or
can
we.
C
Make
sure
that
they're
all
all
right,
subject
to
the
conditions
that
the
cashier
is
located
at
the
front
of
the
store
that
tobacco
sales
are
not
to
exceed?
50
percent
of
total
sales
or
floor
display
that
wind
that
storefront
window
obstruction
is
restricted
to
a
height
of
three
feet
above
the
above
grade
that
a
refuse
receptacle
be
placed
near
the
cashier
and
it's
to
be
accessible
to
customers.
C
The
store
owner
will
clean
up
litter
within
250
feet
of
this
front
of
the
store
number
six
that
no
employ
that
employees
will
not
park
on
the
street
and
seven
that
the
hours
of
operation
be
limited
to
between
6
a.m
and
11
p.m.
On
Sunday,
through
Thursday
and
six
6
a.m
to
midnight
on
Friday
and
Saturday.
A
Removed
by
commissioner
lindwall
and
seconded
by
commissioner
Westerberg,
is
there
any
further
discussion
hearing?
None?
Would
you
please
call
the
roll.
B
A
So,
with
six
votes
in
favor,
the
motion
carries,
and
you
will
move
forward
to
city
council
with
a
recommendation
for
approval.
Good
luck
with
your
project
and
City
staff
will
tell
you
what
you
need
to
do
next
in
terms
of
moving
forward
with
with
City
Council.
Thank
you
with
that.
We
will
move
on
to
the
second
case
that
we
have
that
we
have
this
evening,
which
is
1806
through
1808
Dempster
Street
23
zmjv
0028.
A
I
Danielle
Dean
Lassie
requests
special
use
permits
for
two
independent
businesses:
an
existing
convenience
store
at
1806,
Dempster,
Street
dumpster
snack
shop
currently
in
operation
with
approved
special
use,
ordinance,
120
o21
and
a
new
type
2
restaurant
at
1808,
Dempster
Street,
Windy,
City
flavors
in
the
B1
business
district
city
code,
sections,
692,
2.5
and
6923.
The
land
use
commission
makes
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council,
the
determining
body
for
this
case
per
city
code,
section
6358.
I
A
I'm
going
to
ask
you
to
please
be
sworn
and
I,
don't
know
if
you'll
be
speaking
as
well,
but
if
you
just
raise
your
hand,
do
you
swear
or
a
firm
to
tell
the
truth
throughout
the
course
of
these
proceedings?
Yes,
I.
Do.
Thank
you
very
much
at
this
point.
The
chair
will
go
ahead
and
open
up
public
testimony
on
23zmjv028.
J
Danielle
Dean
owner
of
Windy
City,
Fitness,
Club,
Redemption
snack
shop
and
trying
to
do
Windy,
City
flavors,
all.
J
To
really
do
like
salads
nachos
hot
dogs,
things
first
I
want
to
tell
y'all
guys
so
I
got
the
pictures
and
stuff
too
I
want
to
take
accountability
for
my
actions
and
whatever
I
could
do
to
write
my
actions.
That's
what
I
want
to
try
to
do,
but
I
got
a
lot
going
on
on
my
plate.
So
I've
been
doing
the
fitness
thing
for
11
years.
J
I
was
in
Skokie
for
seven
years,
been
on
Howard
Street
for
like
four,
which
we're
also
moving
over
to
dumpster
I,
don't
know
where
they
really
start
at,
but
trying
to
do
hot
dogs
nachos
things
that
we
have
been
trying
to
do
that
for
like
over
a
year
now,
so
the
space
next
door
I
came
available.
So
we
talked
to
the
landlord
and
was
able
to
get
it.
A
J
J
We
had
a
plumber
to
where,
somehow
that
our
paperwork
got
mixed
up
when
we
got
1808,
our
paperwork
got
mixed
up
with
1806.,
so
the
things
that
they
was
looking
for
us
to
have
in
1806
was
in
1808,
so
our
paperwork
had
been
sitting
on
the
desk
since
November
Melissa
looked
at
it
and
found
out
what
was
going
on,
I
ended
up
coming
in,
which
has
been
like
months.
So
I
was
really
like
wondering.
What's
going
on
so
I
came
in
to
find
out
what's
going
on,
and
this
is
how
we're
here
now,
okay,.
A
All
right,
one
of
one
of
the
things
that
we
we
kind
of,
have
to
address
that
you've
kind
of
hit
on
already
is
we
got
noticed
today
that
that
you
have
been
cited
by
the
health
department,
yeah.
J
A
J
A
A
We
don't
we
don't
we
don't
care,
whether
it's
a
b
or
a
c,
or
we
do
not
downtown
okay,
all
right
all
right.
How
many
employees
do
you
anticipate
having
at
each
of
the
at
each
of
them
so.
J
Is
what
I'm
trying
to
like
with
here
with
dealing
with
y'all,
trying
to
figure
it
out?
How
should
I
do
it
the
right
way,
because
it's
like
I,
don't
I,
don't
want
to
take
away
from
either
or
and
then,
like
I
told
you
I
have
a
fitness
studio
that
we'll
be
putting
at
1803
I
just
finished
filling
out
some
paperwork
for
the
fire
department
to
come
and
expect
that
we
just
got
all
equipment
moved
over
there.
J
So
I
just
felt,
like
probably
because
I
deal
with
like
a
lot
of
people,
I've
helped
a
lot
of
people
in
my
community.
I
have
helped
a
lot
of
people
like
a
lot
so
I'm
trying
to
find
a
way
to
where
I
could
kill
still
keep
things
going.
So
I
can
even
offer
this
and
offer
that
and
the
kids
everybody
happy
type
of
thing.
J
Not
really
we're
not
I,
don't
right
now,
at
this
moment,
I
don't
really
see
no
delivery.
I
just
pretty
much
in
and
out.
J
H
A
J
Much
it's
pretty
much
the
stuff,
the
same
things
that
we
have
at
the
snack
shop,
but
the
only
difference
is,
we
probably
had
the
nachos,
the
hot
dogs
and
some
popcorn.
So
this
is
what
this
was.
My
original
proposal
so
like
going
through
this
it
like
kind
of
got
me
had
me
all
over
the
place.
You
get
what
I'm
saying
because
it
was
like.
We
was
told
this
so
now
that
we
get
this,
then
it
was
like
another
process
tool.
Yeah
I
did
get
a
little
frustrated.
It
happens.
J
You
know
because
I'm
still
like
I,
want
this
plane
to
Melissa
and
explain
to
y'all
too
I'm
still
paying
rent.
So
with
my
finding
out
that
my
application
I've
been
sitting
since
November,
my
rent
is
still
going
right,
it's
literally
dreaming,
you
know
so
it
caused
it
forced
my
hand
to
do
some
things
out
of
line
which
I
will
take
accountability
to,
but
and
again
whatever.
We
need
to
do
to
fix
that
I'm
with
that.
But
this
that's
my
situation
like
the
rent.
Don't
stop
so
it's
like
you
can
have
a
dream.
J
A
Okay,
so
it
looks
like
in
in
the
new
space:
do
you
plan
on
having
like
any
place
for
people
to
sit
down,
or
is
this
Everything.
J
Is
Everything
is
strictly
in
and
out
so
it's
like
I,
don't
know
I,
just
like
I,
say
them
stuff
feel
like
we
have
brought
a
lot
of
life
to
them.
So
if
you
y'all
from
Evans
y'all
familiar
with
everything
right
so
y'all
I
know,
Dempster
has
been
very,
very
quiet,
so
I'm
even
looking
at
some
of
this
paperwork,
that's
in
here
not
some
of
the
violations
that
we
have
I
take
accountability
to.
J
But
it's
also
like
some
racist
things
in
here
that
I
feel
in
my
heart
and
I
hate
to
say
that,
but
it
is
what
it
is
because
I'm
looking
at
a
complaint
to
which
I
know
for
a
fact
that
the
lady
that
we
got
the
space
from
she
did
a
lot
of
things
to
try
to
blackball
us.
J
So
if
you
pay
attention
to
what,
if
you
look
at
the
complaint,
that's
on
there
for
one
as
long
as
we've
been
open
over
there
there
ain't
been
no
shootings,
there
haven't
been
no
fights,
there
haven't
been
no
police
cars,
so
they
make
me
feel
like
it's
a
black
thing.
You
understand
what
I'm
saying
to
you,
because
I
only
see
one
person
in
there
complaining
and
then
I
know
that
we
had
a
situation
with
a
vet
Cameron,
which
is
a
whole
nother
story.
You
know,
I
was
able
to
explain
some
to
Melissa.
J
A
All
right
other
questions
from
other
commissioners.
F
So
quick
question:
the
the
two
stores
are
side
by
side,
but
there's
no
interior
connection
between
the.
F
J
J
It's
not
like
it's
not
like
nothing
major
and
then
it's
like
I
mean
to
somebody
pretty
much
on
hand
at
all
time
so
like
as
far
as
with
a
break,
we
pretty
much
dealing
with
family
right
now,
so
we
haven't
I
haven't
got
to
that
step.
Yet
let
me
put
it
to
you
like
that.
So,
like
right
now,
I've
just
been
working,
my
behind
off
and
doing
what
it
does
it
takes.
So
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
even
take
a
break
I.
D
F
H
F
J
J
Yeah
everything
everything
was
over
there,
so
that
was
like.
So
it
was
like
you
know
when
you
got
a
dream
like
okay.
Well,
we
I
got
this
and
then
I
got
you
find
out.
You
got
that
so
when
we
did
see
that
next
door,
that's
where
we
was
able
to
stop
the
process
where
we
was
going
to
do
with
the
1806
and
the
paperwork
ended
up
getting
mixed
up.
So
it's
like
everything
that
they
asked
us
to
have
at
1806.
J
C
So
all
of
the
salads
and
nachos
and
hot
dogs
would
all
be
produced
and
sold
at
1808.
J
C
The
dine
in
so
that's
why
I
say
we
in
and
out
so
that's
just
all
right
and
then
I
guess
the
other
thing
in
some
of
your
descriptions.
You
talked
about
selling
polish
yeah.
J
A
For
the
applicant
I'll
ask
if
there's
anybody
else
here
who
wants
to
speak
but
I
think
the
only
other
person
here
is
with
you.
So
is
there
anything
you'd
like
to
say
in
summation
before
we
I.
J
Mean
I
mean
not
not
really
I
mean
yes,
I
am
going
to
say
so.
So,
like
I
kind
of
felt,
like
I'm,
not
gonna,
say
I
was
violated
but
like
when
Kylie
walked.
In
the
other
day.
It
wasn't
what
she
was
looking
at,
I'm,
not
going
to
say
what
I
haven't
done
in
the
past,
because
it's
like
so
it's
like
I,
got
to
place
a
business
I'm
I'm,
putting
we
still
sell
pops
chips
and
stuff
next
door.
J
So
sometimes
we
stack
that
stuff
next
door
too,
because
if
we
run
out
we
can
still
run
next
door.
So
I
just
kind
of
felt
like
I,
don't
know
I'm
not
going
to
say
targeted
because
she
been
cool,
but
it's
just
still
I
just
felt
like
she.
Just
she
didn't
really
get
my
consent
to
come
in.
I
would
not
open
to
the
public
I'm
not
going
I'm,
not
going
to
knock
nothing
but
I.
J
Just
I
don't
know
I
just
kind
of
felt,
because
if
she
was
coming
to
to
look
at
1806
just
the
way
that
she
came
and
bothered
me
and
then
she
lied
to
she
told
me
she
was
going
to
send
a
picture,
but
she
was
supposed
to
come
and
take
more
pictures
as
well.
J
I
mean
I'm
for
sure
some
of
y'all
know
when
you
gotta,
when
you
got
a
dream
or
a
vision
or
what
or
whatsoever
you
get
a
commercial
space
in
order
to
know
where
you're
going
to
put
things
already.
If
you
look
at
even
the
Johns
that
the
architect
sent
in
everything
is
kind
of
put
up
in
play,
so
it's
like,
even
if,
when
it's
not
open,
you
know
who
still
might
want
to
see
what
our
vision
looked
like
or
if
we
need
to
move
something,
or
does
this
fit
right
there?
J
D
J
Yeah
I
was
I'm
going
to
do
that,
but
like
right
now,
I'm
just
like
I,
say
I'm,
so
overwhelmed
I'm,
just
taking
one
step
at
a
time
so
like
as
far
as
WIC
I'm
about
to
be
the
head
honcho
right
now.
This
is
something
that
I
told
myself.
So
I
will
have
everything
that's
needed
and.
A
A
Know
so,
and
and
I
I
appreciate
you
coming
you're
taking
ownership,
responsibility
and
say
yeah
what
type
of
a
timeline
do
you
think
you
need
to
bring
yourself
into
compliance
with
those
things.
J
I
mean
and
I,
don't
know
what
you
guys.
So
it's
like
even
right
now,
I
just
really
want
to
know
what
do
you?
What
do
you
guys
want
because
it's
like
y'all
could
tell
us
something:
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
I'm
new
to
it,
so
I'm
trying
to
find
out
what
the
I
want.
What
should
I
do
so
like
so
like,
for
instance,
with
Dempsey
snack
shop,
y'all
told
us
to
get
a
bike
rack.
Don't
nobody
even
use
the
bike?
Rack
and
I
don't
see
no
other
stores
with
a
bike
ride.
J
J
Mean
we
supposed
to
and
it's
it's
a
like
I
said
it's
a
learning
process
for
me,
so
I'm
sucking
it
all
up
and
I'm
learning
as
well.
So.
A
J
A
A
Understand
what
I'm
saying
I
do,
but
you
probably
have
more
paperwork
on
this
than
I.
Do
it's
not.
A
J
J
J
J
A
I
A
Mean
this
isn't
really
within
our
purview,
but
can
we
ask
for
an
update
at
our
next
meeting
from
the
health
department?
I
mean
I.
Can't
I
can't
tell
the
health
department
what
to
do
what
not
to
do,
but
is
that
something
that
staff
would
feel
comfortable,
asking
a
courtesy
of
the
health
department
to
sort
of
check
in
yes.
I
J
I
I
And
I
did
follow
up
with
that
and
there
there
is
nothing
there.
Additionally,
as
of
just
before
this
meeting,
your
food
truck
was
parked
on
the
street,
and
that
is
a
violation,
so
that
is.
J
A
A
You
know
report
from
the
health
department
as
to
where
they
stand
in
compliance
on
everything
because
I
you
know,
if
we,
if
we
do
it
tonight,
I
I
would
vote
no,
but
I
want
to
give
the
applicant
a
time
to
correct
the
issues
and
to
get
back
in
good
standing
with
the
city
before
we
approve
something
else.
I.
F
J
F
C
Would
agree
and
I'm
not
going
to
be
at
that
meeting
just
as
an
FYI
I
also
would
suggest
that
before
we
totally
continue
with
this
item,
we
should
go
through
the
staff
review
and
their
recommended
conditions
which
are
in
the
memo
which
I
think
you've
gotten
just
to
make
sure
you're
clear
and
there's
no
confusion
about
those.
A
I
F
A
Been
moved
and
seconded
moved
by
commissioner
Westerberg
second
by
lindwall.
Is
there
any
further
discussion?
I'm
just
gonna.
Do
a
Voice
vote
on
this
one
sure
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye.
D
A
A
With
that,
we
will
move
on
to
the
third
matter
on
our
agenda,
which
is
our
Omnibus
text
Amendment
package,
as
many
of
you
will
recall
several
months
ago,
I
made
a
referral
to
staff
to
look
into
some
of
the
issues
that
we
have
that
are
kind
of
ongoing
issues.
With
the
the
text
and
the
zoning
ordinance.
A
There
were
a
total
of
11
things
that
I
had
put
forward
and
then
a
12th
one
was
added
at
the
request
of
commissioner
mirenshev,
so
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
staff
and
let
you
kind
of
introduce
this
to
us.
I
Thank
you,
I
will
read
through
all
12
text
amendments
to
read
into
the
record,
and
then
we
can
go
through
one
by
one.
The
city
initiated
text
Amendment
to
the
zoning
ordinance
title
VI
of
the
city
code
for
an
Omnibus
text.
Amendment
package
relating
to
the
following
one
amend
the
definition
and
applicability
of
unified,
comprehensive
sign
plans
and
establish
a
review
process
with
the
land
use
commission.
I
I
amend
the
Tod
Transit
oriented
Development,
Area
definition
to
Encompass
a
consistent
and
predictable
distance
from
Mass
Transit
lines,
section
618-3,
four
clarify
language
and
procedures
for
continuance,
requests
to
public
hearings.
Chapter
3.
5.
modify
the
unique
use
process
into
a
unique
adaptive
use
process
that
is
eligible
to
Historic
and
non-historic
properties.
Section
637
and
6
18
3.
I
6.
clarify
language
that
prohibits
curb
cuts
to
the
street
when
Ali
access
is
present
in
residential
districts,
chapter
8.,
seven
clarify
accessory
structure
required
setbacks
and
yards
in
non-residential
districts,
section
646,
8.,
clarify
open
parking
required
setbacks
and
yards
also
apply
to
loading
births.
Section
646
and
chapter
16.:
nine
clarify
definitions,
yards
and
setbacks
for
patios
and
Terraces
section
618,
3
and
section
646
number
10
establish
a
mixed-use
market
as
an
eligible
principal
use
in
non-residential
and
non-university
districts.
Title
VI,
section,
6,
18,
3.
I
number
11,
modify
the
existing
apartment,
Hotel
use
and
or
definition
for
clarity.
Section
618-3,
section,
688
and
section
6114
and
number
12
clarify
and
modify
the
process
for
adjustments
to
development
plans
for
Planned
developments.
Section
63612
the
land
use
commission
makes
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council,
the
determining
body
for
this
case
in
accordance
with
zoning
code,
section
6345.
A
A
This
is
something
that
we
actually
already
had
made
a
recommendation
to
City
Council
on
this
was
in
regard
to
the
Anne
Rainey
apartment
issue
that
we
also
then
dealt
with
for
North
light
when
they
had
to
make
changes,
and
so
this
was
changing
things
so
that
if
it
was
a
site
allowance
that
we
were
granted
that
we
would
be
in
the
in
the
in
the
position
to
Grant
and
it
had
to
change,
it
would
come
back
to
us,
but
if
it
was
something
that
did
not
require
a
something
that
somebody
normally
would
not
come
to
us
for
at
the
very
beginning,
it
was
something
that
would
not
come
back
to
us.
A
Obviously,
all
of
these
any
changes
to
any
plan
developments
would
go
through
staff
and
would
require
some
sort
of
Staff
level.
So
it's
not
like
somebody
just
gets
to
decide.
They're
going
to
to
do
something,
but
this
was
in
response
to
the
fact
that
we
noticed
that
you
could
move
a
building
on
the
property
and
you
didn't
have
to
come
to
us.
But
if
you
wanted
to
change
Windows,
you
did
have
to
come
to
us,
so
it
was
kind
of
didn't
make
a
lot
of
sense.
A
So
we
were
trying
to
make
some
sense
of
this.
So
this
is
basically
timed
out
because
anything
that
we
take
action
on
only
has
90
days
for
city
council
to
act
on.
They
did
not
act
on
it
and
so
we're
just
looping.
This
right
back
in
number
11.
aren't
any
questions
about
number
12..
So.
A
Somebody
wants
to
change
the
parking
somebody's
somebody's,
making
a
change
in
their
parking
somebody's,
changing
the
height
of
their
building,
the
far
of
their
building
any
of
those
sorts
of
things
that
we
normally
would
look
at.
That
would
comply
on
development
if
they
wanted
to
change
any
of
those
things.
A
Whether
it
was
something
that
we
originally
heard
or
not,
it
would
have
to
come
back
to
us
for
a
change
things
that
would
not
be
covered
in
that
are
things
that
people
normally
would
not
have
to
come
to
us
for
plant
developments
are
a
little
weird
because
you
kind
of
have
to
come
for
right,
pretty
much
everything,
but
the
the
arc
are
the
the
point
that
we
were
looking
at.
A
There
was
a
change
in
materials
on
the
facade
and
whether
that
could
be
handled
at
the
staff
level
as
opposed
to
having
to
come
back
to
us.
So
that
was
the
discussion
we
had
at
that
time.
A
A
We
do,
and
we
should,
when
we
when
we're
doing
a
whole
project,
but
but
the
thing
is
literally,
if
somebody
wanted
to
change
one
thing
on
their
facade
that
maybe
a
very
minor
thing,
they
would
currently
be
required
to
come
back
to
us,
which,
when
you're
doing
a
project
downtown
for
the
notifications
for
the
fees,
everything
else,
it
really
becomes
expensive
to
change
the
material
on
the
windows
or
something
like
this.
A
So
that
that's
that's,
why
that
one
and
like
I
said
we
passed
that
one
I
don't
remember
when
we
did
that,
but
it
was:
was
it
October
okay,
so
that
one
is
that
number
11
modify
the
existing
apartment,
Hotel
use
and
our
definition
for
clarity
when
I
had
originally
put
this
out
for
referral.
We
had
talked
about
currently
there's
a
25
minimum,
but
there
is
no
maximum.
So
what
happens
this?
This
lots
of
the
stuff
responds
to
a
particular
case.
So
this
is
the
case
for
what?
What
is
the
museum?
A
It's
the
old
King
homes,
but
it's
now
the
museum
residences,
and
so
this
was
in
response
to
that
as
to
how
do
we
Define
this
in
conversations
with
staff
after
we
talked
about
this,
we
discussed
is
an
apartment
Hotel,
even
a
definition
that
we
need
to
have
existing.
Do
these
things
exist
in
the
way
that
they
used
to
exist
and
so
I'm
perfectly
content
to
just
remove
this
definition
altogether
and
a
hotel
becomes
a
hotel.
A
C
Yeah
I
mean
I,
don't
disagree
with
that
I
think
I
I
only
disagree
in
terms
of
timing
I
think
it's
bad
precedent
to
be
changing
definitions
when
you've
got
a
case.
That
is.
C
C
You
know
they
wanted
to
change
the
zoning
kind
of
after
the
fact
and
were
taken
to
court
and
you
know
lost
so
you
know:
I
I,
think
that
that
all
of
our
residential
definitions
need
to
be
looked
at
and
I'm
just
wondering
whether
or
not
that
might
be
something
more
appropriate
to
do
as
part
of
the
whole
zoning
rewrite,
but
I
agree
that
it's
not
necessary
and
I
understand
that
you
know
the
this.
You
know
that
that
particular
project
could
go
be
approved
either
based
on
the
existing
apartment,
Hotel.
C
You
know,
recommendation
or
quite
frankly
that
that
site
could
be
easily
rezoned
to
a
different
dedistrict,
at
which
point
it
would
be
a
permitted
use.
A
C
A
And
we
will
and
we
will,
but
the
thing
is
we're
we're
in
a
situation
now,
where
is
this
something
that
we
just
want
to
allow
people
to
open
hotels
under
the
guise
of
an
apartment
hotel
in
any
residential
district,
or
do
we
now
that
we
know
that
this
is
a
possibility?
Is
it
something
that
we
want
to
stop
from
happening
and
I
would
prefer
to
stop
it
from
happening
as
opposed
to
you
know,
waiting
for
it
to
happen
again.
A
Number
10
I
miss
thoughts
I'm
going
to
let
you
since
I'm
kind
of
moving
backwards
here.
Actually,
let
me
take
a
quick
look
here
and
see
if
there's
any
other
real,
quick
ones.
A
I'm
gonna
go
up
to
number
three:
the
transit
oriented
development
distance.
This
is
just
kind
of
making
things
consistent
across
the
board.
We
had
different
distances
for
different
things
in
different
places,
so,
rather
than
doing
all
of
that,
just
making
it
one
if
you're
in
a
Transit
oriented
development,
it's
a
quarter
mile,
regardless
of
of
what
else
is
happening
around
you.
C
And
I
don't
have
an
issue
with
with
this,
but
I
do
think
that
at
some
point
kind
of
is
the
again
the
comprehensive
plan
and
the
zoning
ordinance.
We
ought
to
be
looking
at
bus
routes
and
whether
or
not
Transit,
you
know
those
the
bus
stops
constitute
a
Transit
oriented
development.
This
this
you
know
this
is
implying
transit
station
rather
than
you
know,
so
it's
the
CTA
and
the
Metro,
rather
than
the
other.
K
Don't
think
staff
disagrees
with
you,
however,
just
recognizing
the
purpose
of
the
Omnibus
text.
Amendment
is
really
to
address.
You
know,
conflicts
in
our
code
to
go
and
add
additional,
you
know
go
above
and
beyond.
Our
current
practices
is
not
really
the
purpose
of
this
package
that
you're
reviewing.
A
Okay,
number
four
clarifying
language
and
procedures
for
continuance
requests.
This
is
one
of
those
things
where
we've
realized.
There's
some
may
shall
contradictions,
and
so
we
are
seeking
to
have
those
clarified
so
that
we
may
Grant
continuances
and
we
are
never
bound
to
Grant
a
continuance
so
that
that
one
is
a
pretty
straightforward
issue.
A
And
then
miss
klotz
I'll,
just
kind
of
let
you
jump
in
and
run
through
some
of
the
rest
of
these,
because
starting
up
at
the
top
one
and
two
kind
of
go
hand
in
hand
on
cleaning
up
our
signage.
For.
B
Thank
you
so
for
item
one
that.
B
But
as
Melissa
mentioned,
NJ
Rogers,
we
have
encountered
several
instances
when
applying
the
sign
code
now
that
it's
in
the
zoning
ordinance
where
it
makes
it
difficult
to
approve
signs
that
may
otherwise
make
sense,
and
also
recognizing
that,
since
the
elimination
of
the
sign
variance
procedure
from
the
building
title,
when
we
there
was
the
initial
move
of
the
the
sign
code
as
a
whole
into
the
zoning
title
title
six,
the
procedure
for
sine
variances
then
deferred
most
of
them
to
this
body
as
the
determining
body,
and
we
did
not
the
standards
that
this
body
was
evaluating.
B
So
what
we've
done
is
replace
the
variation
standards
that
were
in
title
IV
when
that
procedure
was
in
title
IV
and
the
design
and
project
Review
Committee
was
the
determining
body
and
and
put
them
back
into
this
process
and
also
sign
variations
will
be
considered
or
processed
similar
to
minor
variations
or
fence
variations
where
the
zoning
administrator,
not
the
land
use
commission
is
a
determining
body,
so
that's
kind
of
the
first
procedural
change,
the
second
procedural
change
that
is
related
to
that.
B
But
I
think
the
easiest
way
to
consider
the
unified
sign
plan
previously
known
as
unified
Business
Center
plan,
unified,
comprehensive
sign
plan
or
signed
District
plan
kind
of
like
a
plan.
Development
for
signage
only
I
think
is
an
easy
way
to
think
of
that
where
your
people
are
asked
or
businesses
are
asking
for
sign
packages
for
an
entire
property
or
multi-tenant
property,
where
they
may
need
more
signage
than
is
typical.
B
So
the
standards
are
evaluated
into
a
little
bit
more
on
the
aesthetic
and
the
character
of
that
property
and
how
it
fits
into
that
block
area
and
less
about.
Does
it,
or
does
it
not
constitute
as
a
unique
circumstance,
there's
hardship,
whereas
the
new
sign
variation
process
is
being
considered,
as
are
they
they
have
to
be
evaluated
against?
Is
there
hardship
or
not?
B
Is
there
a
unique
thing
about
the
architecture
of
the
building
or
the
site
layout
that
is
warranting
them,
putting
a
sign
in
a
certain
location
or
them
needing
a
bit
of
a
larger
sign
than
normal?
So
those
are
the
two
procedures
that
and
kind
of
come
out
of
more
or
less
fixing
that
initial
relocation
of
the
sign
code
into
title,
VI
and
I
think
there
are
a
couple
tweaks
to
the
variations.
B
There's
a
directory
sign
that
was
in
the
definitions,
part
of
the
sign
code,
that
is
kind
of
defunct,
and
it's
also
content
based
so
I
removed
that
because
it
did
refer
to
unified
sign
plans
and
also
for
unified
sign
plans,
you
can
have
a
primary
sign.
So
that's
intended
to.
If
some
of
our
strip
centers
have
multi-tenant
Monument
signs,
that's
really
what
that's
getting
at
is.
B
The
key
limiting
factor
from
unified
signed
plans
is
also
it
eliminates
the
need
for
there
being
four
tenants
to
the
building.
So
if
there's
a
larger
property-
and
they
have
a
really
long
Frontage
and
they
want
more
signs,
they
could
take
the
unified
sign
plan
route
and
just
make
sure
that
their
signs
are
not
going
to
be
cluttering.
B
So
that's
in
a
nutshell.
The
changes
that
are
proposed
and
I
think
I've
mentioned
this
in
the
past,
but
we
also
there
was
a
Supreme
Court
ruling
in
2014
requiring
sign
codes
to
be
content
neutral.
So
it
is
staff's
intent
to
eventually
rewrite
the
sign
code,
particularly
the
temporary
and
exempt
sign
code
sections
so
that
you're
allowing
signage
based
on
the
use
of
the
property
and
or
the
lot
size
and
the
building
type,
rather
than
giving
different
businesses
more
or
less
signage
or
Free
Speech
than
other
businesses.
B
So
that
is
a
longer
term
goal.
But
this
is
at
least
addressing
the
issue
of
administering
the
sign
code,
and
it
gives
it
takes
away
from
this
body
getting
into
the
Weeds
on
sign
variations.
C
I
have
a
question:
I
have
a
question
on
the
directory.
Sign
definition,
you
know
I
get
it's
intended
for
viewing,
while
in
the
premises
by
pedestrians
or
those
driving
vehicles,
but-
and
it's
not
legible
from
a
public
right-of-way,
that's
the
the
not
being
legible
from
public
right-of-way
is
what
I'm
just
I'm
just
trying
to
understand.
What
that's
intended
to
mean.
Is
it
mean
that
for
a
larger
property,
where
you
have
to
drive
in
and
you're
looking
your
industrial
property
or
I'm,
not
sure
I'm,
not
sure
what
that's
intended
to
do.
B
It's
intended
to
be
it,
it's
a
sign
that
it's
it's
smaller
in
size,
so
it's
not
going
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
read
it.
So
it's
in
that
type
of
sign
is
in
the
exempt
sign
section
sign
section,
and
there
are
some
conflicting
definitions
and
terms.
So
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
what
that
type
of
sign
is
so
that
it's
people
aren't
going
to
try
to
say,
oh
well.
C
A
C
Or
that
sort
of
stuff,
okay,
I'm,
just
wondering
if
there's
way
of
you
know
making
that
point
with
without
saying
it's
not
legible
from
a
public
right-of-way,
because
that
you
know
kind
of
like
the
enter
here,
you're
still
going
to
want
you're
still
going
to
be
seeing
it
from
a
public
right-of-way.
B
Right
so
the
current
definition
where
it
says,
which
indicates
the
name
and
or
address
of
the
occupants
of
a
premises
accommodating
multiple
occupants,
so
where
it's
saying
that
indicates
the
name
or
address
that's
content
based,
so
this
was
kind
of
a
way
to
still
get
at
the.
What
is
the
function
of
the
sign
without
prescribing?
What
has
to
be
on
it
and
then
idea?
Then
it
will
be
something
that's
smaller.
Now
there
may
be
a
opportunity.
It
may
be
possible
that
it
would
be
illuminated
that
they
need
an
electrical
permit
for
that.
B
C
A
All
right
have
any
other
questions
on
signage,
and
this
is
something
that,
as
you
recall,
has
kind
of
been
given
to
us
just
recently,
and
we've
only
had
one
case,
which
was
for
underwriter
Laboratories
number
five
to
modify
the
unique
use
process
of
unique
adapt
into
a
unique
adaptive
use.
Is
this
one?
You
miss
clots.
I
Yes,
so
the
zoning
ordinance
currently
features
a
unique
use
process.
To
my
knowledge,
it
has
been
used
one
time
for
the
old
District
65
campus
property,
which
was
split
up
into
a
a
couple
of
single
family
home
properties.
But
then
there
were
also
some
larger
buildings
that
were
at
least
one
of
them
was
made
into
I
believe
condos,
all
within
the
R1
District,
where
that
would
otherwise
not
be
allowed.
I
So
staff
is
requesting
to
expand
that
opportunity
so
that
it
can
apply
to
any
property
and
not
just
a
property
that
is
already
a
designated
Landmark
property.
We
have
had
a
number
of
religious
institutions,
as
well
as
some
other
buildings
reach
out,
saying
that
they
are
trying
to
downsize
and
looking
for
other
opportunities
of
how
to
use
the
building
rather
than
tear
it
down,
and
most
of
these
properties
are
located
in
the
R1
District,
where
there
aren't
many
options
in
there
aren't
many
uses
available
that
could
save
the
building.
F
I
F
My
only
concern
was,
you
said,
eliminate
parking
requirements,
noting
that
those
sites
are
usually
either
have
parking
or
cannot
have
parking
because
of
what
they
were,
but
won't.
This
really
depend
on
the
use
if
they
are
turned
into
residential
structures.
There
may
have
to
be
some
accommodation
for
parking,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
we
wouldn't
want
to
eliminate
it
completely.
That
would
be
my
only
recommendation.
I
Understandable,
the
intent
that
staff
was
getting
at
is
that
as
a
unique
adaptive
use.
It
requires
special
use
approval
anyway,
so
in
that
process,
then
it
could
be
determined
just
what
the
appropriate
amount
of
parking
is,
rather
than
having
a
paper
number
saying.
You
need
this
many
spaces
and
are
requesting
A
variation
that
just
it
may
not
look
good
on
paper,
but
the
appropriate
level
is
still
there
got.
C
B
Staff
actually
also
watched
the
Chicago
metro
section
training
today
about
converting
Office
to
residential
I,
believe
that
recording
will
be
available
on
some
various
planning
websites,
including
planning.org.
So,
but
the
tenet
of
that
was
it
is
okay
and
it
is
actually
becoming
more
common,
as
we've
seen
in
Evanston,
but
even
any
way
to
still
encourage
appropriate
adaptive
reuse
but
reduce
any
barriers
to
reusing
these
existing
buildings,
including
the
measures
that
are
a
part
of
this
process.
C
Then
just
a
real
minor
point:
I
just
was
looking
at
the
the
markup
version
at
the
end,
and
there
just
seems
to
be
a
little
bit
of
consistent
consistency
issue
in
the
two.
You
know
the
the
corrected
definition
just
written
out
and
then
what
was.
D
G
Is
this
all
right,
no
R1
for
a
residential
one
District
or
this
change
is
for
all
zoning
districts.
G
G
I
And,
within
the
the
strike,
through
wording
that
we
have
we,
we
are
striking,
R1
and
and
calling
that
it
would
be
all
districts.
I
This
is
a
very
simple
one.
We
found
that
there
is
a
loophole
in
the
current
code
So.
Currently,
the
zoning
ordinance
does
not
allow
a
new
curb
cut
to
the
street
when
Ali
access
is
present,
but
the
way
that
it
is
written
that
only
applies
to
a
front
yard
when
it
was
written
I
believe
we
forgot
that
street
side
yards
exist
and
that
driveways
potentially
could
go
through
there.
G
One
small
question:
are
there
any
changes
in
the
circular
driveways.
I
B
I
I
think,
in
theory,
if
there
was
a
corner
lot
that
did
not
have
an
alley
if
they
wanted
one
curb
cut
off
of
one
street
and
another
one
off
of
the
other
Street
to
have
a
a
circular
driveway
that
extended
across
both
streets
that
would
meet
the
zoning
ordinance
requirements.
I
am
doubtful.
It
would
meet
Public
Works
requirements
with
the
the
distance
from
the
intersection,
so
I
don't
think
it
would
ever
actually
be
able
to
happen.
G
I
Number
seven
is
related
to
accessory
structure,
setbacks
and
yards
in
non-residential
districts.
This
is
more
of
a
clarification.
The
zoning
ordinance
is
extremely
clear
in
residential
districts,
on
where
accessory
structures
and
uses
are
allowed
to
go
and
what
required
yards
they
are
allowed
to
be
in
the
zoning.
Ordinance
is
silent
on
that
for
non-residential
districts,
so
the
the
past
policy
has
been
to
in
non-residential
districts
that
they
follow
the
same
accessory
structure.
Setbacks
that
hold
on
one
moment.
I
That
they
would
follow
either
the
typical
residential
setbacks,
which
is
typically
five
foot
setbacks
or
three
foot
setbacks.
Unless
that
principal
structure
setback
is
even
less
so,
for
instance,
in
the
downtown
there
are
typically
zero
foot
setbacks.
So
if
you
could
have
a
say,
20
story
building
at
zero
feet,
you
should
probably
also
be
allowed
to
have
an
accessory
structure
at
zero
feet.
So
that
has
been
past
policy.
It
is
just
not
codified
and
we
would
request
doing
so
for
clarification.
I
I
Is
also
a
clarification
that
the
the
zoning
ordinance
is
just
silent
on
and
we
have
had
a
consistent
policy.
The
zoning
ordinance
specifies
setbacks
and
yards
for
open
parking,
but
does
not
currently
say
that
that
also
applies
to
loading.
It's
logical
that
it
would
apply
to
loadings.
We
just
request
to
add
that
into
the
zoning
ordinance.
J
A
Okay,
I'm
Number
Nine,
clarifying
definitions,
yard
setbacks
for
patios
and
Terraces.
I
This
is
a
much
needed
clarification
that
was
requested
by
commissioner
mirenchev
staff
has
had
a
hard
time
with
this
one,
and
what
we
have
ultimately
come
to
determine
is
that
the
zoning
ordinance
conflicted
with
itself
a
little
bit
and
had
some
definitions
sort
of
reversed.
So
we're
trying
to
be
logical
here
and
establish
what
a
patio
really
is
and
what
a
Terrace
really
is,
and
essentially
what
we
have
come
to
is.
I
There
is
no
need
to
regulate
Terraces
at
grade
because
they
are
effectively
a
front
porch
at
that
point,
if
they're
in
the
front
or
a
patio,
if
they're
not
in
the
front.
So
we
are
trying
to
simplify
this
to
be
clear,
that
patios
are
only
allowed
in
rear
yards
and
they
have
a
clear
definition
now
and
a
Terrace
is
essentially
a
porch.
G
I'm
sorry
to
ask
a
question
about
something
that
I
asked
for,
but
did
you
clarify
one
of
the
things
that
I
meet
in
my
let's
say
everyday
practice
is
that
sometimes
people
have
very
wide
Lots,
but
patios
are
not
allowed
in
sight.
Setback.
It's
not
in
required
side
setback.
It's
in
any
site
setback
I
thought
that
we
can
be
a
little
bit,
not
so
strict
for
that.
I.
Don't
know
if
you
agree
with
that
or
not.
I
Staff
did
consider
that,
because
we
we
do
find
it
logical
to
allow
a
patio
in
a
side
yard
when
you
have
quite
a
bit
of
space
and
you're,
not
in
your
required
side
yard
that
last
five
feet.
Ultimately
that,
because
of
the
the
way
the
zoning
ordinance
is
written
that
expands
to
become
a
significant
text.
I
Amendment,
there
are
multiple
code
sections
that
state
no
accessory
structure
or
use
that
is
detached
from
the
principle
structure
should
be
between
the
principle
structure
and
the
side
setback,
and
so
by
adjusting
that
one
logical
regulation,
we
are
opening
a
can
of
worms
to
all
other
accessory
uses,
and
what
should
we
do
so?
Ultimately,
we
determined
it's
probably
best
to
leave
that
for
our
new
zoning
ordinance
that
will
fix
the
entire
thing
and.
G
There
are
some
there
are
some
it's
a
conflict,
I
know
because
we
had
in
the
zoning
board.
We
had
this
problem
and
there
was
a
problem
with
the
neighbors
and
with
the
noise.
That's
why
we
we
didn't,
allow
it
then,
and
that
I
know
this
is
this
is
a
problem,
but
sometimes
the
you
and
I
received
the
consent
of
the
neighbor
in
a
large
and
it's
a
attached
battle
to
the
house.
It
is
still
not
allowed.
G
So
this
is
a
kind
of
a
thing
that
it
happened
to
me
and
that's
why
I'm
asking
but
anyway,
I
would
agree
that
it's
probably
requires
a
little
bit
more
work
on
all
the
accessory
uses,
because
I
I
found
many
other
things
in
the
accessory
users,
but
they
don't
deserve
attention
right
now,
they're,
very
specific
cases.
Thank
you.
L
I
have
a
question
on
the
terrorist
definition
is
in
a
Terrace
on
a
structure
above
grade.
L
So
if
you
have
a
which
I
mean,
if
you
have
a
property,
you
have
a
second
floor
and
you
have
an
area
that
you
want
to
put
a
porch.
But
it's
not
really
a
porch,
not
on
the
second
floor.
So
would
it
be
considered
a
Terrace.
L
That's
why
I'm
asking
because
if,
if
now
that
deck
is
now
on
this
second
floor,
I
mean
the
definition
of
a
Terrace
itself
is
a
is
an
open
area?
L
I
It
were
moderately
elevated,
it
would
be
treated
the
same
as
a
deck
and
I
believe
it
would
meet
the
definition
for
a
deck.
If
it
was
say
like
on
a
second
story
where
it's
like
a
it's
acting
as
the
rooftop
for
it,
then
it
would
follow
principal
structure,
setbacks
for
the
building.
That's
underneath
it
anyway,
so
that
would
be
allowed.
Then,
okay,.
B
It
would
also
have
if
people
can
stand
under
it,
it
would
get
the
building
lock
coverage
applied
to
it
too,
instead
of
the
imper
instead
of
the
exemption
from
the
impervious
surface,
because
you're
you're
able
to
stand
under
and
use
the
space
under
it.
So
that's
how
we
have
reviewed
those
when
we
get
permits
like.
L
A
All
right,
I
think
number
10
is
the
last
one.
I
Number
10
is
not
a
clarification.
This
is
a
new
request.
Staff
requests
establishing
a
new
use
called
a
mixed-use
market.
This
would
basically
Encompass
a
number
of
uses
or
sub
uses
all
within
one
building
or
location.
It
could
all
be
operated
by
one
entity
or
multiple
entities
all
together,
but
this
is
a
newer
type
of
use
that
is
doing
very
well
in
larger
communities
and
communities
that
have
some
larger
buildings
say.
I
That
is
actually
one
person
operating
a
20
square
foot
area
that
type
of
thing,
so
we
are
requesting
making
this
an
overall
use
that
has
a
little
bit
of
flexibility
with
regulations
based
on
what
zoning
District
they're
in
specifically
more
flexibility
within
the
downtown
and
then
a
moderate
amount
of
flexibility
in
the
neighborhood
business
and
Commercial
districts.
But
noting
that
we
have
had
requests
for
this
and
the
way
the
zoning
ordinance
is
currently
written.
They
end
up
going
through
the
zoning
process.
I
Quite
strangely,
to
be
honest,
and
we
had
we've
had
a
couple
play
out
in
recent
years
with
the
zoning
board,
where
we
had
one
property
on
Green
Bay
Road
that
had
to
consistently
come
back
for
special
uses
as
more
of
those
little
sub
uses
were
added
to
the
building,
and
then
we
had
had
another
property
on
I
believe
Washington,
where
one
of
the
I
believe
seven
uses
triggered
a
special
use.
But
in
reality
the
board
was
reviewing
the
entire
proposal
as
a
whole.
D
C
I
have
a
question:
I
was
looking
at
the
table
with
the
you
know,
the
permitted
special
uses
on
what
page,
12,
I,
guess
and
I'm
wondering
if
just
for
clarification
on
the
the
middle
one,
you
want
to
say
mixed
use,
Market
more
than
7
500
square
feet
and
less
than
twenty
thousand
square
feet
just
for
clarity
and
then
I.
The
other
question
I've
got
you
know.
You've
got
it
listed,
are
the
ones
for
more
than
twenty
thousand
square
feet
listed
as
a
special
use
in
the
D
districts?
C
My
question
becomes
what
if
we,
what
about
the
locations
where
we
have
big
box
spaces,
Like,
Home,
Depot
or
you
know,
I,
don't
we
still
have
Best
Buy
I,
think,
but
but
you
know
what
how
you
know
now
now
some
of
them
are
in
you
know
like
Best.
Buy
is
well
no.
C
Actually,
though,
they're
both
pretty
much
freestanding,
you
know,
I
I
can
understand
a
shopping
center
being
able
to
subdivide
Big
spaces,
but
should
should
we
be
considering
those
in
in
and
I,
don't
know
if
we
have
any
big
industrial
spaces
that
would
exceed
20
000
square
feet.
But
you
know
those.
Those
are
the
kind
of
spaces
that
you
might
want:
incubator,
or
something
and.
I
Most
of
the
big
box
stores
are
are
located
in
the
C
districts.
On
the
one
hand,
those
do
typically
have
large
parking
lots
and
could
accommodate
a
lot
of
people,
but
I
do
think
it
would
like
it
would.
It
would
probably
be
appropriate
to
transition
the
administrative
review
use
to
the
the
special
use
requirement
when
they're
hitting
20
000
square
feet,
since
that
is
a
fairly
substantial.
No.
C
I
I'm
I'm
talking
about
including
them,
because
right
now
on
the
more
than
twenty
thousand
square
feet,
you
only
have
the
special
use
listed
in
the
D
districts
and
I'm
wondering
if,
if
they
should
also
be
in
at
least
the
C
districts
and
I,
don't
know
about
any
of
the
the
manufacturing
districts.
I
I
think
it
makes
sense
for
the
the
sea
districts,
the
districts,
the
eye
districts
and
the
owe
to
add
that
as
a
special
use
at
20
000
square
feet.
D
A
The
the
special
use
across
the
board
as
well,
you
follow
me
so
in
in
the
column
down
the
left
right
now,
where
it
reads
anything
over
7
500
square
feet
become
special
use.
Well,
obviously,
something
over
twenty
thousand
square
feet
is
a
special
use
as
well,
but
if
we
change
that
to
say
7
500
to
20
000
square
feet,
then
we
need
to
clarify
that
for
anything
over
20
000
square
feet,
it
would
also
be
a
special
use.
So
it's
just
cleaning
up
the
chart.
C
Well,
I
think
it's
you
know.
If
we
have,
you
know
if
we're
dealing,
it
seems
that
we're
dealing
with
anything
over
20
000
square
feet
differently,
and
so
it's
really
it
is
cleaning
up
the
chart,
but
it's
also
making
sure
that
that
special,
you
know
those
larger
buildings
and
those
districts
could
take
advantage.
Yeah.
A
F
Just
just
one
clarification
you've,
you
said
on
page
13
that
uses
within
that
mixed-use
model
would
be
expected
to
really
self-regulate.
So
if
there's
a
use
that
just
doesn't
fit
well
with
the
others,
the
overall
operation
we'll
probably
understand
that
and
address
it.
However,
it
may
take
some
time
for
them
to
do
so.
There
may
be
some
impact
on
the
neighborhood,
so
I'm
I'm
just
curious.
If
there
are
some
uses
that
we
might
want
to
limit
in
certain
areas.
I
This
would
only
be
a
permitted
use
in
a
few
instances
and
and
typically
at
less
than
that,
7
500
square
foot
cut
off.
So
it
is
unlikely
to
happen
it.
It
doesn't
mean
it
couldn't
happen,
but
unlikely
and,
for
instance,
an
auto
repair
use.
Then
what
other
businesses
would
want
to
co-locate
with
it
that
that's
what
we're
getting
at
with
the
self-regulating
portion.
F
And
I
can
understand
that
I
I'm
just
wondering
if
there
might
need
to
be
a
little
more
oversight
at
times
and
I.
Don't
know
how
you
provide
for
that.
I,
don't
have
a
solution
for
you
either,
but
it
might
be
helpful
to
provide
for
some
oversight
and
I.
Don't
know
whether
that
would
be
based
on
the
square
footage
or
the
type
of
District
it
would
be
going
into.
I
Just
it's
just
a
comment:
you,
you
have
very
good
points
to
make.
The
other
thing
that
I
would
know
is
that,
within
the
definition
of
mixed-use
market,
we
are
noting
that
the
majority
of
the
sub
uses
must
be
retail,
restaurant
and
or
service
oriented
in
nature,
so
that
we
are
keeping
that
that
commercial
feel
to
it.
So
again
that
should
deter
some
of
those
nuisance
uses
from
going
in
there.
But
to
your
point
in
theory,
it
could
happen.
A
A
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
just
overall
or
on
any
one
in
particular
that
maybe
they
thought
about
afterwards?
First
off,
thank
you
to
staff
for
putting
this
together
quickly.
This
is
a
lot.
A
So
I
do
appreciate
that
we
do
have
some
standards
that
we
must
find
are
met
for
text
amendments.
A
There
are
four
and
I
will
speak
to
these
as
a
whole,
rather
than
going
through
each
of
the
12
four
times,
which
is
the
purpose
of
an
Omnibus
so
that
we
don't
have
to
do
that
and
the
first
one.
First
off
for
the
record
I'll
note
that
there
is
no
one
else
in
the
room
to
provide
any
public
testimony.
So.
A
A
Obviously,
one
of
the
things
that
the
comprehensive
plan
does
intend
for
us
to
do
is
is
look
at
such
things
as
adaptive,
reuse,
consistent
language,
which
is
a
lot
of
what
we're
kind
of
doing
here
and
looking
at
like
number
five
with
the
unique
adaptive
use
looking
at
the
mixed-use
market
areas,
those
sorts
of
things
that
kind
of
goes
to
that
being
able
to
redevelop
properties
that
otherwise
don't
have
a
a
defined
purpose
as
easily
and
some
of
the
other
things,
for
example,
unified,
signage
and
things
like
that
is
definitely
part
of
the
of
the
comp
plan
in
terms
of
of
overall
feel
of
neighborhoods
and
and
the
impact
of
of
businesses
on
those
neighborhoods
and
on
our
city
streets.
A
So
I
believe
that
standard
is
met
number
two,
whether
the
proposed
amendment
is
compatible
with
the
overall
character
of
the
existing
development.
In
the
immediate
vicinity
of
the
subject
property,
since
this
is
kind
of
a
city-wide
thing,
there
isn't
truly
a
subject
property.
Some
of
these
things,
like
I,
said,
have
been
kind
of
in
response
to
some
some
things
that
have
come
before
us.
A
Others
are
kind
of
long
festering
issues
that
staff
has
dealt
with
time
and
time
again,
and
some
are
things
like
you
know
the
signage
moving
to
us
and
sort
of
having
to
clarify
that
as
to
how
we
move
through
with
with
this,
but
I,
don't
feel
that
there's
anything
in
here
that
would
that
would
cause
character
of
neighborhoods
to
be
drastically
altered.
A
Because
of
any
of
these
clarifications,
like
we
said
some
of
this
stuff
is
things
that
have
happened
in
practice
for
years,
just
need
to
be
put
into
code
number
three,
whether
the
proposed
amendment
will
have
an
adverse
effect
of
the
value
of
adjacent
properties.
I'm
again,
looking
at
this
kind
of
holistically
as
a
city,
lots
of
these
things
that
we're
looking
at
are
trying
to
improve
conditions
on
properties.
A
You
know
things
like
signage,
obviously,
just
having
a
an
unregulated
Wild,
West
kind
of
approach
to
signage.
Does
more
to
harm
property
values
than
to
make
things
consistent?
Things
like
you
know,
making
sure
that
people
understand
what
they're
doing
what's
expected
of
them.
All
of
that
should
actually
help
help
maintain
property
values
and
we're
putting
things
in
place
to
help
regulate
that
and
number
four,
the
adequacy
of
public
facilities
and
services
again,
there's
nothing
really
here
that
would
be
putting
a
strain
on
any
of
our
services
again.
Lots
of
this
is
language.
Clarifications.
A
C
Sure
I
recommend
approval
of
text,
Amendment,
23
plnd-006.
C
With
including
the
modified
language
discussed
with
respect
to
item
one,
which
is
just
a
minor
clarification
of
the
signed
directory
definition
and
with
respect
to
number
10,
the
mixed
use
Market
with
respect
to
just
developing
some
consistency
on
the
mixed
juice,
Market
more
than
20
000
square
feet
where
those
would
be
allowed.
C
L
A
A
A
So,
with
the
vote
of
six
to
zero,
the
motion
does
carry
and
the
Omnibus
will
move
on
to
city
council
with
recommendation
for
approval
of
those
matters.
And
that
concludes
the
business
that
we
had.
Is
there
any
Communications
from
staff.
K
Yes,
I
have
some
bittersweet
news
to
share
with
the
land
use
commission,
so
Katie
ashbaugh
has
put
in
her
resignation
and
will
be
departing
on
June
9th
I
I
want
to
thank
her
for
all
of
her
contributions
to
the
City
of
Evanston.
K
There
are
many,
you
know
things
like
working
on
the
Evanston
Labs
Varsity
Theater,
the
legacy
plan
development
that
just
came
through
several
text
amendments
special
uses
and,
most
recently
leading
the
effort
to
develop
the
comprehensive
plan
and
Zoning
code
RFP
say
with
confidence
that
you're
leaving
the
city
in
a
better
place
than
when
you
started
and
on
behalf
of
our
team,
the
Community
Development
department,
the
city
as
a
whole.
Thank
you
and
I
wish
you
the
best
as
you
leave
for
the
city
of
Chicago.
K
So
if
you'd
like
to
say
anything,
the
floor
is
yours.
B
Thank
you
all.
It's
been
a
pleasure
serving
all
of
you
in
this
capacity,
both
of
the
zoning
board
of
appeals
liaison
and
now
trading
off
with
Megan
Jones,
as
the
land
use,
commission
liaison
and
it's
been
great
working
with
Liz
and
Melissa,
and
the
rest
of
the
planning
zoning
division
team
and
in
Community,
Development
and
I
can
confidently
say
that
without
the
opportunities
I've
had
with
the
City
of
Evanston,
I
would
not
be
going
on
further
in
my
career,
where
I
am
so
I'm,
just
really
grateful
for
the
opportunity
it
is
Bittersweet.
B
A
A
There
is
no
public
to
make
public
comments.
So
at
this
point,
I
will
ask
if
there's
a
motion
to
adjourn.