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A
A
This
is
the
May
10th
2023
public
hearing
of
the
land
use
commission.
The
city
code
directs
this
body
to
hear
applications
for
map
and
text
amendments
special
uses,
including
plan
developments,
zoning
relief
and
appeals
from
decisions
of
the
zoning
administrator,
as
well
as
to
make
recommendations
regarding
the
city's
long-term
planning
goals,
depending
on
the
type
of
matter.
This
commissioner,
will
either
make
a
final
determination
or
send
a
recommendation
to
city
council.
B
A
With
seven
members
present,
we
do
have
a
quorum
also
present
tonight
from
City
staff.
Our
planner
Katie
ashbaugh
Deputy,
City
attorney
Alex
rugge,
bye,
planner,
Michael,
Griffith
I.
Couldn't
remember
what
your
title
was.
Look
at
your
name
tag
you,
you
don't
come
very
often
and
our
planning
manager,
Liz
Williams.
This
is
a
formal
hearing
and
there
are
rules
that
govern
our
proceedings.
Most
importantly,
only
one
person
speaks
at
a
time
so
that
all
testimony
may
be
accurately
recorded.
A
Anyone
who
wishes
to
address
the
commission
regarding
any
matter
on
tonight's
agenda
will
be
able
to
do
so
at
the
appropriate
time.
Our
procedure
is
to
hear
from
the
staff
on
file
the
documents
on
file
and
then
receive
testimony
and
other
evidence
from
the
applicant
or
appellant.
After
that,
person's
wishing
to
make
a
statement
regarding
the
matter
will
have
a
chance
to
do
so.
Any
person
with
a
legal
interest
and
property
located
within
Define
notification
requirements
of
the
subject.
A
Property
may
present
evidence
reasonably
question
Witnesses
or
seek
a
continuance
of
the
hearing
when
all
supporting
and
opposing
testimony
and
statements
have
been
heard,
the
applicant
or
repellent
will
be
given
the
opportunity
for
rebuttal
or
a
closing
statement.
Then
the
commission
will
close
the
record
and
begin
deliberations
to
consider
the
standards.
The
commission
will
make
formal
findings
a
fact,
based
on
the
testimony
and
evidence
presented
Guided
by
the
standards,
the
commissioner's
knowledge
of
the
community
and
the
recommendations
of
staff.
All
testimony
is
taken
under
oath,
although
we
do
not
apply
the
strict
rules
of
evidence.
A
Please
limit
your
testimony
to
the
proposal
as
it
relates
to
the
standards
contained
in
the
zoning
ordinance
and
the
corresponding
staff
memorandum,
when
testifying
States
your
name
and
address
for
the
record,
and
if
you
haven't
already
please
sign
in
on
the
public
comment
sheet
or
sign-in
sheet,
our
meetings
are
audio
and
video
recorded.
Please
make
sure
that
you're
at
a
microphone
when
asking
questions
or
making
statements
so
that
you
can
be
properly
recorded,
all
proceedings
are
subject
to
broadcast
at
a
later
date.
A
Any
matter
not
concluded
that
tonight's
hearing
will
be
continued
to
our
next
regularly
scheduled
meeting.
We
do
have
one
item
on
the
agenda
this
evening,
which
is
a
plan
development
which
is
a
22
plnd0012
for
3434
Central
Street
is
the
applicant
here,
thank
you,
and
we
will
get
to
that
in
just
a
moment
before
we
do,
though
we
do
have
to
a
couple
other
things
on
our
agenda,
which
are
the
approval
of
minutes.
We
have
two
sets
of
minutes
that
we
will
be
approving
the
first
one
is
the
April,
9th
10th
2023..
A
E
A
As
well,
are
you
staying
I'm?
Sorry,
okay,
so
we
have
a
5-2
vote.
Our
502
vote,
two
abstentions,
but
the
motion
still
carries
and
those
minutes
are
approved
with
that.
We'll
move
to
the
second
set
of
minutes
which
were
for
April
26th.
These
were
for
the
margarita
Inn,
just
again
kind
of
as
a
quick
little
reference.
Is
there
any
discussion,
commissioner
Westerberg.
C
A
I
think
that's
throughout
there's
a
couple
places:
I
noticed
that
so
I
just
think
that
needs
to
be
corrected
in
those
places
anything
else,
I'm
hearing
nothing
else.
Is
there
a
motion
to
approve
I.
A
A
Westerberg
moves
approval.
Is
there
a
second
seconded
by
commissioner
potal,
all
any
other
discussion
hearing,
none
all
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye.
E
A
A
With
that
now
we
will
move
into
the
new
business.
We
have
on
our
agenda
this
evening,
which
is
the
plan
development
for
3434
Central
Street
at
this
point,
I'm
going
to
ask
anybody
who
feels
that
they
may
be
speaking
to
us
on
this
matter
to
please
be
sworn
by,
raising
their
right
hand,
do
you
swear
or
affirm,
to
tell
the
truth
throughout
the
course
of
these
proceedings?
A
Thank
you
and
why
have
I
lost
a
piece
of
paper
I
sign
in
sheets?
Did
everyone
who
wanted
to
speak
to
us
tonight
have
an
opportunity
to
sign
in
and
if
not
I'll,
give
you
a
couple
minutes
to
come
up
and
do
that
right
now
these
were
on
the
back
table.
A
They
have
been
added
you're
online.
You
should
you
already
are
on
here,
so
it's
anybody
who
came
in
after
I
stole
them
from
the
back
table
right
before
seven.
A
And
while
that
is
happening,
what
is
it
I'm
supposed
to
say
now?
According
to
our
new
rules,.
A
G
A
F
Just
interject
before
we
start
there
can
we
just
get
a
quick
clarification
on
page
one
of
the
packet
mentions
that
we're
the
recommending
body
page
three
of
the
packet
says
that
we're
the
determining
body
you
can
always
get
a
final
clarification
on.
A
That
we
are
the
recommending
body
on
this
because
it
is
a
planned
development.
A
A
So
with
that
I
will
ask
the
applicant
if
he
would
like
to
come
up
to
the
lectern.
Please.
H
Hello,
everyone
once.
A
A
Thank
you,
and
just
for
the
record
I'd
like
to
state
for
everyone.
This
is
not
the
first
time
this
proposal
has
come
before
us.
It
has
been
tweaked
since
it
came
before
us,
but
many
of
the
much
of
the
testimony
that
has
been
provided.
A
We
are
aware
of,
and
so
please
don't
just
get
up
and
recite
Verbatim
what
you
did
last
time.
The
proposal
has
changed
some
and
if
we
can
kind
of
focus
in
on
on
those
changes,
I'd
appreciate
it
both
from
the
applicant
and
from
the
neighbors.
Thank
you.
H
Okay,
thanks
very
much
once
again:
Charles
Morales,
with
Kenston
school,
the
Reverend
Kirk
from
Unity
Church,
and
some
of
his
congrats
would
like
to
come
up
and
do
a
brief
presentation.
H
They
felt
that
in
some
of
the
past
appearances
that
we've
had,
they
haven't
really
quite
had
to
have
a
chance
to
have
their
their
story
told
in
in
the
progression
of
you
know
how
we,
how
we
came
to
an
agreement,
so
I'll
bring
Reverend
Kurt
up
a
little
bit
and
he
can
speak
to
you
all
and
then
and
then
we
can
go
from
there.
Thanks.
J
I
live
on
Hinman,
not
too
far
away.
So
first
thank
you
for
allowing
us
this
opportunity
to
really
share
our
process
and
how
we
came
to
really
the
realization.
I
think
that
Kensington
School
is
a
good
buyer
for
the
property
that
we're
selling
I'd
like
to
share
a
little
bit
about
Unity,
who
we
are
unity,
is
a
spiritual
movement
that
was
founded
back
in
the
late
1800s
by
a
couple
Charles
and
Myrtle
Fillmore.
Our
headquarters
remains
there
now
World
Headquarters
is
there
right
outside
of
Kansas
City
Unity
is
Unity.
J
North
Shore
is
sort
of
a
completely
independent
non-profit
organization,
Under
the
Umbrella
of
unity
worldwide
Ministries.
So,
unlike
other
churches,
we
don't
have
a
denominational
or
a
Diocesan
kind
of
way
of
supporting.
All
of
our
finances
comes
through
the
fundraising
efforts
and
the
generosity
of
our
members
and
donors,
so
that
kind
of
gets
to
where
we
are
in
terms
of
how
we
came
to
the
decision
that
it
was
time
for
us
to
sell
the
property.
It
was
not
an
easy
process
for
us,
as
you
can
imagine.
J
That
is
there
now
on
Christmas
Eve.
So
that's
kind
of
how
we
got
to
where
we
are.
What
we
came
to
realize
about
five
years
ago
is
that
there
are
some
tremendously
expensive
infrastructure
changes
that
need
to
be
made
improvements,
everything
from
HVAC
to
Plumbing,
to
electrical
the
roof
and
there's
just
a
lot
that
needed
to
be
handled
and
maintained.
J
And
oh
thank
you
and
through
a
kind
of
discernment
process,
we
went
through
and
finally
realized
that
it
really
is
not
probably
within
the
scope
of
our
50
or
so
members
to
be
able
to
afford
the
kinds
of
changes
that
are
required
for
us
to
really
complete
our
mission
and
fulfill
the
purpose
that
we
have
in
the
world.
J
So
the
congregation
voted
at
that
point
to
put
the
property
on
the
market
as
a
part
of
that
process,
we
contracted
with
a
consultant
to
help
us
kind
of
set
some
criteria
by
which
we
would
be
able
to
choose
a
suitable
buyer
and
and,
at
the
same
time
be
able
to
choose
where
we
want
to
move.
I
do
want
to
make
that
point.
There
are
some
rumors
around
town
that
we
are
closing.
That
is
not
the
case,
we're
moving.
J
We
will
use
the
proceeds
out
of
the
sale
to
remain
in
Evanston
and
to
continue
doing
doing
the
work
that
that
our
members
so
much
value
here
so
back
to
sort
of
this
process
of
how
we're
going
to
identify
a
buyer
that
was
suitable
Unity,
as
I
said,
has
been
there
for
60
years,
we're
very
proud
of
their
relationships
that
we've
had
within
the
community
and
feel
as
though
we
have
been
a
good
neighbor
and
wanted
to
make
sure
that,
as
we
leave
the
property,
especially
since
we're
staying
in
Evanston
that
that
Legacy
continues.
J
So
we
were
very
deliberate
about
entertaining
the
offers
that
came
before
us
in
the
several
months
that
the
property
was
on
the
market.
There
were
really
only
three
offers
that
we
evaluated
fully.
Two
of
those
were
for
some
fairly
high
density,
multi-multi-family
developments
that
were
from
other
developers
from
out
of
town
and
then
the
the
third
buyer
was
Chuck
Morales,
with
Evan
with
Kensington
schools,
which
right
away
felt
like
a
good
fit.
It
sort
of
fits
with
what
we
had
wanted
to
do
in
terms
of
a
Ministry
for
60
years.
J
J
So
we
just
felt
that
it
was
a
a
really
good
fit
for
us
being
able
to
continue
our
work
and
also
to
be
respectful
and
mindful
and
honoring
of
the
energies
that
were
around
in
the
neighborhood
and
Beyond
also
part
of
the
our
next
slide.
If
I
do
I
have
this
clicker
thank
you
and
next
Slide
part
of
our
our
you
know.
J
I
read
a
statistic
yesterday
that
that
10
000
churches
across
the
country
closed
in
2001,
so
this
isn't
a
dynamic
that
is
unfamiliar
to
churches,
so
and
especially
since
covid
we're
finding
new
ways
to
meet
and
gather
and
grow
and
experience
Fellowship
together
and
that's
all
sort
of
having
an
impact
on
what
our
needs
are
and,
in
particular,
what
we
are
looking
to
create
as
we
move
out
of
this
particular
structure
and
let's
see
what
I
think
that's
about
all
I
needed
to
cover
our
mission,
really
I,
as
I
mentioned,
is
to
equip
and
Empower
folks
to
be
able
to
take
risks
and
be
courageous
and
live
their
deepest
truth,
and
we
we
feel
that
Kensington
as
a
buyer
as
an
a
family-owned
business
and
that's
going
to
continue
to
kind
of
serve.
J
K
Thank
you,
Kurt.
Thank
you.
Commissioners
I
grew
up
going
to
Unity
on
the
North
Shore
I
think
I
first
walked
in
the
doors
when
I
was
about
12
years
old,
and
so
throughout.
My
adult
life
I
have
had
the
opportunity
to
both
work
and
volunteer
there
and
now
serve
as
the
executive
director.
K
My
in
addition
to
that,
my
husband
and
I
did
live
in
Evanston
a
number
of
years
ago,
when
we
were
starting
our
family.
We
have
six
fan
six
kids.
K
We
actually
adopted
most
of
them
through
foster
care,
and
so
early
childhood
education
is
near
and
dear
to
my
heart
personally,
because
I
see
what
the
older
kids,
who
we
got,
who
missed
out
on
those
early
opportunities,
how
incredibly
impactful
that
is
in
their
lives
and
and
as
a
family
who
has
moved
several
times
how
important
it
has
been
looking
for
those
educational
opportunities
for
our
family
and
in
looking
for
a
town
to
live
in.
That
is
something
that's
so
valuable.
K
So
I
want
to
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
Kensington
brings
to
the
neighborhood
part
of
why
we
kind
of
partnered
with
them.
Thinking
that
this
would
be
maybe
an
ideal
new
business
in
Evanston
and
help
support
our
our
Church's
desire
and
need
to
relocate
at
this
time
so
that
their
philosophy,
their
mission,
really
helps.
You
know
shares
what
we
embody
as
a
Unity
Church.
Their
building
plan
is
certainly
attractive
and
I
know.
K
One
of
the
concerns
we've
heard
over
the
last
18
months,
or
so
from
some
of
the
neighbors
has
been
about
how
it
might
affect
property
values,
and
we
certainly
want
to
be
a
good
Steward
of
our
neighborhood.
We
do
not
want
to
negatively
impact
our
neighbors
in
any
way
with
with
new
development
there,
so
we
did
look
into
property
values
in
the
area
and,
as
you
can
see
here,
you
know,
Evanston
is
known
for
its
good
Schools.
Home
values
have
risen
12
since
2017
54
over
the
past
10
years,
which
is
incredible.
K
K
So
we
are
hoping
that
perhaps
this
can
change
that
when
you
look
at
where
some
other
Kensington
schools
are
located.
Glenview
area
code
60025
increased
by
22.5
percent,
whereas
the
surrounding
Community
decreased
by
20.5
percent.
L
Thank
you
so
much
Commissioners
and
thank
you
to
the
people.
Who've
cared
enough
about
this
topic
to
attend
tonight.
I
just
would
like
to
give
a
I'm
Alyssa,
Foster
and
I
am
the
vice
president
of
the
board
of
Unity
on
the
North
Shore.
Just
a
note
about
my
appearance
tonight,
I
had
eye
surgery
today,
I'm
really
fine,
so
I
will
just
move
on
from
there.
L
So
one
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
mention
is
that
this
sort
of
commercial
sale
process
is
not
familiar
to
most
of
us
who
are
on
a
church
board,
and
so
we
have
worked
very
hard
to
make
sure
that
we
are
addressing
all
of
the
State
and
and
a
city
official
needs,
and
that
we're
looking
into
things
like
property
values
and
traffic
patterns
and
so
forth,
and
following
the
process
with
the
Integrity
that
we
bring
to
to
everything
that
we
do
as
a
church
Community,
including
communicating
with
the
our
neighbors
I'm
here
to
speak,
particularly
to
traffic
patterns,
which
of
course
is
a
huge
concern.
L
As
many
people
know
that
that
corner
is
a
little
bit
diabolical.
There
are
multiple
streets
converging
onto
two
close
traffic
lights
and
so
forth,
and
the
hillside
neighbors
are
somewhat
protected
from
that
and
I
understand
that
they
are
concerned
about
increasing
traffic
because
of
the
presence
of
the
school.
What
I
will
say
is
that
what
I've
learned
from
our
buyer
is
that
around
Kensington
School
they
really
have
a
proven
track
record
of
safe
operations
as
an
operator
of
Early
Childhood.
L
They
have
to
be
particularly
careful
about
traffic
for
their
for
the
children
and
the
parents
coming
to
and
from
they
also
don't
really
operate
in
the
same
way
as
a
regular
school
would
I.
Think
that's
a
point
that
people
really
need
to
understand
is
that
a
preschool
and
I'm
a
parent
myself?
My
kiddo
is
now
12,
but
when
she
was
in
preschool
we,
you
know
we
went
to
two
different
places.
L
One
was
in
Edgewater
and
Andersonville,
and
her
entry
was
right
on
Clark
Street,
which
is
an
extraordinarily
busy
street,
and
there
were
only
four
spots
right
in
front
of
the
building
for
drop
off
and
pickup
and
I
was
like.
How
could
this
possibly
work
and
I
was
very
nervous
as
a
young?
You
know,
mother
of
a
young
child,
but
they
said
it
works,
we've
worked
it
out,
it
works.
L
Everything
will
be
fine,
and
so,
when
I
see
the
arrangement
of
the
traffic
pattern
that
they
put
in
here,
the
fact
that
you
actually
can
drive
in
can
stop
can
unload
your
kiddo
and
then
you
know
go
on
your
way
and
the
fact
that
parents
work
at
different
times
and
they
will
come
as
someone
will
come
at
six.
Some
of
them
will
come
at
9
30.,
it's
not
like
when
we
drop
off
at
school
and
there's
a
long
line
of
cars
and
everybody's
trying
to
drop
off
in
a
10
minute
window.
L
So
that's
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
is
really
important
to
realize.
So,
rather
than
just
taking
you
know
our
sort
of
General
impressions
of
this,
the
traffic
study
was
actually
done
in
order
of
of
the
Kensington
School
drop
off
and
pick
up
times
in
10-minute
increments,
and
the
highest
number
of
cars
was
in
that
10
minute
period
was
seven
and
typical.
L
More
typical
was
one
to
three
vehicles
per
10
minute
period,
so
this
worry
about
there
being
hundreds
of
cars
lining
up
and
blocking
the
traffic
is,
is
not
really
supported
by
the
evidence
that
we
have.
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
speak
to
was
the
design
of
the
Kensington
schools.
Building
I
understand
completely
the
concern
about
the
loss
of
Green
Space
around
the
church.
L
You
know
it's
and
there
will
be
certainly
a
loss
of
green
space,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
the
designers
of
the
school
haven't
really
thought
about
the
Aesthetics
of
that
property
as
well.
It'll
be
a
different,
aesthetic,
but
I
believe
they
are
intending
for
there
to
be
plenty
of
greenery
around
for
the
kids
and
and
Landscaping
to
keep
it
the
beautification
there.
L
The
roof
line
of
the
proposed
building
is
actually
lower
than
we
have
at
the
church.
Right
now
it
looks
more
residential
than
our
church.
I
mean
I.
It's
an
interesting,
looking
Church,
but
you
know
the
the
school
itself
looks
more
like
a
home.
L
We've
also
thought
very
carefully
about
the
easement
situation,
without
our
will.
Jamesburg
neighbors
and
the
most
recent
plan
actually
dedicates
an
easement
to
that
property,
which
is
something
that
they
haven't
actually
had
before,
and
that
was
Chuck
marlus's
suggestion
specifically,
you
can
see
up
here.
I
won't
go
through
it
in
detail
the
the
different
parts
of
the
design
regarding
Ingress
and
egress,
but
all
of
those
changes
have
been
made
with
an
eye
to
maintaining
the
piece
of
the
neighborhood
and
the
access
for
the
Williamsburg
neighbors
next
door.
L
Finally,
we
have
worked
with
City
engineers
and
state
officials
to
consider
that
any
actual
increase
in
traffic
that
does
happen
can
be
managed
by
timing
of
the
lights.
To
you
know,
according
to
what
is
actually
observed
once
the
school
is
open
and
Kensington
School
will
pay
for
any
of
those
timing.
Adjustments
themselves,
We
There,
Our
Kensington
School,
has
also
planned
to
extend
the
sidewalks,
which
is
you
know
again.
L
Another
safety
concern
of
the
neighborhood
but
they're
going
to
extend
the
sidewalk
along
the
property
line
and
they
will
be
providing
new
access
to
the
co-op
residents
specifically
and,
as
we
understand
it,
there's
ongoing
city-wide
Improvement.
The
City
of
Evanston
will
actually
be
constructing
new
sidewalks
on
both
sides
of
Central
Street
around
the
neighborhood
that
wraps
up
my
portion
of
what
I
wanted
to
share
share
with
you.
Thank
you
for
your
time,
Commissioners
and
I'm,
going
to
turn
it
back
over
to
Reverend
Kurt
to
bring
us
home,
as
you
will.
J
Thanks
Alyssa,
just
I
understand
how
difficult
change
is.
J
I've
been
preaching
about
change
now
for
going
on
three
years
as
we
sort
of
move
through
this
process
and
I
know
that
sort
of
the
natural
human
reaction
is
to
kind
of
be
resistant
and
to
to
look
for
the
things
that
are
not
going
to
not
going
to
serve
us
well
and
yet
what
I
believe
is
that,
and
what
Unity
teaches
and
believes
is
that
there
is
no
private
good,
that
if
a
solution
arises,
that
is
good
for
one
of
us
and
that's
been
Our
intention
throughout
this
process.
It's
also
good
for
the
Neighbors.
J
It's
also
good
for
the
broader
Evanston
Community.
I
really
think
that
Kensington
School
will
preserve
the
wonderful
sort
of
quiet
character
of
the
hillside.
Neighborhood
I
know
that
as
a
as
a
business,
it
will
add
to
the
city's
tax
revenues
and
I
know
that
it
will
give
us
the
opportunity
at
Unity,
on
the
North
Shore
to
be
able
to
move
into
a
more
suitable
home
with
with
accommodations
and
features
that
are
going
to
really
help
us
to
fulfill
our
mission.
So
once
again,
thank
you.
J
A
H
Great
thanks,
thank
you
all
very
much
so
yeah
just
to
sum
up
and
and
thank
you
to
chair
Rogers
for
suggesting
that
we
just
kind
of
pick
up
where
we
all
left
off.
Perhaps
a
year
ago,
I'm
once
again
joined
by
so
my
development
team,
which
is
my
architect,
Lance
Lauderdale,
Michael
worthman
from
kloa,
our
traffic
consultant
and
Jim
kapustiak,
our
civil
engineer
from
spaceco.
H
So
all
those
things
that
that
we
just
touched
on
I
think
with
the
most
important
one
today
is-
is
the
easement
issue
that
we're
all
trying
to
find
a
good
solution
for.
H
So
this
is
the
third
version
of
this
plan
that
we've
created
basically
to
try
and
find
a
way
to
blend
what
what
the
needs
are
for
Kensington
from
a
zoning
perspective
and
a
land
use
perspective
to
what
works
best
for
the
neighbors
and
what
works
best
for
the
community
and
we've
been
basically
very
reactive
to
to
what
the
community's
needs
were
with
all
three
different
proposals
that
we've
we've
worked
on
and
we've
met
with
the
neighbors
and
we've
shown
them
all
to
use.
H
Okay,
it's
in
the
it's
in
the
package,
I
believe
that
you
all
have
going
through
the
progression
of
these
three
different
site
plans.
You
know
our
first
iteration
of
this
plan
was
to
try
and
keep
the
parking
lot
where
it
currently
where
it
currently
stands,
build
Kensington
upon
the
the
the
current
site
and,
while
that
that
worked
for
some
neighbors,
it
worked
for
you
know
from
an
easement
perspective,
it
worked
for
the
Williamsburg
Cooperative
because
there
he's
been
basically
easement
rights
maintained.
H
They
were,
they
were
the
same,
but
some
of
the
folks
that
lived
south
and
west
of
of
of
this
location
we're
worried
that
a
lot
of
the
left
turnouts
onto
Central
would
you
know
a
lot
of
folks
will
be
using
Central
to
kind
of
get
back
south
onto
Gross
Point
to
get
to
the
highway
faster.
H
We
subsequently
came
up
with
another,
a
different
opinion
or
a
different
iteration
of
the
plan,
whereby
we
put
the
parking
out
on
the
corner
and
we
created
multiple
point:
two
different
points
of
Ingress
egress,
one
Ingress
egress
point
out
on
Central,
which
was
a
right
out
left
in
only
restricted
and
a
second
access
point
onto
Gross
Point,
which
was
kind
of
a
three-quarters.
H
It
was
a
write-in
right
out
left
in
and
at
the
recommendation
of
this,
this
committee
I
believe
we
went
back
and
and
Revisited
that
again
and
now
our
third
plan
is
is
I.
Think
our
best
one
of
all.
Basically
it's
it's
allowing
the
Williamsburg
Co-op
to
have
their
own
dedicated
access
point
for
full
access
onto
Central,
their
own
driveway,
and
you
know
their
own
access.
They
won't
be
driving
through
a
parking
lot.
H
They
won't
be
having
to
deal
with
unity's
parking
lot,
whether
it's
paved
or
or
plowed,
or
whatnot
or
kensington's
parking
lot
for
the
same
the
same
reasons,
but
now
they
have
their
own
dedicated
one
and
we
further
restricted
access
out
on
the
gross
point
where
it's
just
a
write-in
right
out
only
and
out
on
Central.
H
It's
it
still
stays
that
left
in
right
out,
so
there'll
be
no
left
left
turns
out
onto
Central
to
you,
know,
go
through
the
neighborhoods
and
you
know
quite
frankly,
any
any
parent
or
any
guardian
or
any
family
member
that
wants
to
you,
know,
get
up
out
onto
Gross,
Point
and
and
get
to
the
highway
quicker,
we'll.
Just
simply,
you
know,
avoid
Central
and
avoid
that
light
altogether
and
just
make
that
quick
right-hand
turn
out
onto
Gross,
Point
and
and
start
heading
south.
H
H
We
have
made
some
subtle
tweaks
to
parking,
we're
still
parking
compliant,
and
you
know
we
obviously
have
some
some
landscaping
and
some
land
use
issues.
Dedicating
this.
This
dedicated
easement
to
to
the
co-op
has
taken
out
that
drive
Isles
impervious
surface
out
of
our
calculations,
so
we
saw
our
impervious
calculation
go
up
so
because
that
was
you
know,
prior
to
that,
that
was
dedicated
playground
space.
H
So
we've
reduced
the
playground
for
the
children
and
given
that
over
to
to
the
co-op,
so
they
can,
you
know,
have
an
easement
that
works
for
them
for
the
next
60
years,
plus
so
at
that
I
think
I'll,
just
turn
it
over.
To
whomever
has
any
questions
any
clarifying
questions
for
Unity
or
for
myself
or
any
of
my
team.
We
are
at
your
disposal.
C
So
if
we
can
talk
about
the
easement
a
little
bit
and
I'm,
not
sure
if
this
question
is
for
you
or
or
whether
it's
for
staff,
but
can
the
church
in
essence
vacate
that
easement?
If
it
sells
the
property
or
do
they
have
to?
Is
it
legal?
They
have
to
provide
the
easement
somewhere
else
in
kind
or
is
the
actual
position
of
the
easement,
something
that
the
co-op
can
lay
claim
to.
M
M
That
is
all
that
the
land
use
commission
should
consider.
That's
all
that's
necessary
here,
any
other
issue
about
where
it's
located,
if
that's
agreed
upon
that'll,
be
a
civil
issue
between
the
two
Property
Owners,
but
for
our
purpose
here
this
evening
and
easement
just
has
to
be
given,
because
it
is
a
necessity.
M
So
the
advice
given
by
staff
was
to
not
accept
a
proposal
unless
it
included
an
easement
that
would
allow
for
those
Property
Owners
to
access
the
property
that
they
need
to
access
and
I
believe
that
staff
received
a
proposal
that
did
have
a
new
easement
on
it
and
that's
why
we're
here
tonight.
A
N
Commissioner,
given
that
you
know
your
your
lack
of
Green
Space,
which
people
have
commented
on
and
some
of
the
variations
that
you're
asking
for
which
are
site
related
and
the
testimony
that
said
that
this
current
scheme
is
lower
than
the
church
I,
don't
know
how
much
lower
it
is.
But
did
you
consider
or
would
you
consider
a
a
three-story
building
and
I?
Don't
know
how
tall
that
would
be
relative
to
the
church,
but
it
would
also
it
could
your
that
possible.
H
Know
we
hadn't
it.
Would
it
would
more
than
likely
add
another
16
to
18
feet
with
the
different
floor,
Heights
and
and
requirements
it
wouldn't
be
the
best
the
best
way
to
operate
a
child
care
center
for
the
perspective
of
trying
to
get
children
up
three
flights
of
stairs
or
in
case
of
you,
know,
emergency
down
three
flights
of
stairs.
H
H
A
A
C
H
Well,
it's
it's
to
have
it
inside
the
building
is
a
little
difficult
for
you
know
for
facilities
management
to
come
pick
up
a
ref.
You
know
a
garbage
collection
service
to
come
pick
it
up.
We
like
to
try
and
keep
the
you
know
the
the
building
looking
as
residential
as
possible
to
have
Windows
in
the
classrooms.
You
know
for
all
the
children
to
attach
the
or
to
carve
out
a
piece
of
the
structure.
H
For
you
know
a
dumpster
Corral
really
probably
isn't
the
best
use
of
the
of
the
space,
for
you
know
to
be
taken
away
from
the
children,
especially
on
the
first
floor.
H
H
Yeah,
okay,
we
hadn't,
we
hadn't
considered
it's
not
something
from
an
operational
perspective
that
we
that
we'd
want
to
include
in
the
in
the
plan.
My.
C
E
H
Was
just
a
concern?
Yeah
it'll
be
well
surrounded,
well,
landscaped
around
we'll
build
an
enclosure
around
it.
Some
municipalities
required
to
have
a
roof
over
it.
I,
don't
know
what
the
what
the
granular
details
are
of
that.
But,
however,
we
you
know
are
asked
to
you
know,
protect
that
from
visibility
and
and
from
smell
and
odor,
and
all
that
will
will
be
mindful
of
it
for
sure
all.
C
H
Is
that
correct,
approximately
yeah
and.
H
It
does
so,
first
of
all
this,
this
is
Code
Compliance,
so
your
ordinance
does
list
a
number
of
it's
I,
think
I
believe
it's
one
per
one
per
employee
and
one
for
every
15
children
or
something
like
that.
So
we
do
we,
we
do
comply
from
it
from
a
zoning
perspective.
H
Furthermore,
we
do
have
some
other
locations
out
in
the
suburbs
that
have
that
are
have
a
similar
enrollment
with
a
similar
sized
parking
lot.
So,
for
example,
we
just
opened
a
school
in
Park
Ridge
in
January
of
2023.
It's
a
17,
000
square
foot.
Building
on
one
story:
it
has
10
classrooms.
This
will
have
10
classrooms
as
well.
It
has
31
parking
spaces
so,
and
this
has
35.
so
from
an
operational
perspective,
you
know
the
drop-off
in
the
pickup
I.
H
Remember,
commissioner
halek
had
some
had
some
concerns
in
our
last
meeting
as
it
related
to
you
know
what
happens
if
there's
a
sudden
flood
of
of
families
that
come
at
one
point
or
another,
you
know
we've
we've
run
some
well,
that's
on
the
other
slide,
but
I
believe
that's
in
the
packet
we
collected
data
from
two
of
our
other
locations
that
are
a
little
bit
smaller
than
this,
but
on
a
ratio
level
show
that
parents
do
drop
off
in
in
dribs
and
drabs
over
that
three
or
four
hour
Morning
window,
and
similarly
that
three
or
four
evening
window
for
pickup
and
and
as
as
that
morning,
enrollment
builds
so
does
that
staff
enrollment,
so
the
school
will
open
in
the
morning
at
6
30.
H
Let's
say
it
may
be.
Only
four
employees
will
show
up
because,
as
you
know,
we
don't
need
all
23
staff
members
there
when
the
school
enrollment
is
building
because
as
children
are
coming
from
6
30
in
the
morning
until
9,
30
or
10.,
those
staff
members
start
trickling
in
because
of
DCFS
ratioing
from
a
student-teacher
racial
perspective
and
the
same
happens
in
the
evening
as
as
children
start
to
leave.
Once
ratio
starts
to
establish
a
a
need
for
teachers
to
leave,
they
go
home
because
there's
no
really,
there's
really
no
need
for
them
to
stay.
H
H
You
know,
as
Jasmine
mentioned,
you
know
not
there's
a
strong
correlation,
but
you
know
in
the
city
of
Chicago.
You
know
we're
building
a
location
in
Lincoln
Park.
We
only
have
four
parking.
Four
little
loading
zones
out
on
Lincoln
Avenue
that
that
will
will
will
need
to
be
enough
for
all
the
parents
that
are
coming
and
going
so.
N
I
just
had
a
follow-up
question
to
this
I'm
sorry,
but
I
and
I
thought
you
mentioned
this
before.
But
couldn't
you
if
there
was
a
rush
situation?
Couldn't
you
have
staff
outside
picking
up
the
kids
directly
from
the
car,
and
so
the
car
doesn't
have
to
park?
The
Parenthood
doesn't
have
to
park.
H
Time,
yeah
and
look,
and
then
that's
the
thing
so
you
know
what's
wonderful
about
this-
is
that
the
parents
that
are
in
our
community
are
really
wanting
to
be
good
good
members
of
our
community,
and
we
want
to
be
good
members
to
Evanston,
so
it
kind
of
works
up
the
chain
right.
The
parents
want
to
be
a
good
member
of
the
Kensington
Community
Kensington
wants
to
be
a
good
member
of
Evanston
as
a
community.
H
So
if
we
start
to
see
things
that
aren't
working
and
start
to
see
things
that
that,
from
an
operational
perspective,
are
problematic
for
the
neighborhood
for
traffic,
we
can
make
some
adjustments.
You
know
it's
a
very
it's
very
different
than
you
know,
if
any
other
user
or
any
other,
you
know
commercial
or
residential
development
report
to
come
here,
you
know
we're.
54
year
old
family
owned
an
operated
company.
We
plan
on
being
here
for
a
long
time
for
the
foreseeable
future
decades.
So
we
want
to
be
a
good
neighbor.
H
We
want
to
be
a
good
Steward
of
this
property.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
any
possible
exigency
that
comes
up.
That
is
problematic.
Is
addressed
so
to
answer
your
question
yeah
we'll
bring
we'll
bring
some
people
outside
we'll
we'll
do
what
it
takes
to
make
it
make
sure
it
works.
But
you
know
time
you
know
it's
a
little
battle
tested.
You
know,
kensington's
drop
off
and
pickup
has
been
working
really
really
well
for
four
decades
at
a
lot
of
locations.
So
we're
really
confident
that
this
will
be
fine.
O
H
At
this
point,
it's
not
possible
it's
smaller
how
how
the
way
we
determined
that
was,
you
know
seeing
this
is
a
two-story
building.
You
know,
basically
anything
you
do
on
the
first
floor,
you
have
to
do.
On
the
second
floor,
I
mean
we
could
make
the
second
floor
smaller,
but
it
really
wouldn't
work.
I
mean
it'd,
be
you
know
it
wouldn't
be
practical,
so
we
basically
worked
from
the
outside
in
and
designing
this.
H
We
understood
that
the
site
had
certain
limitations
from
a
parking
size
location
and
we
basically
just
tried
to
build
as
attractive
as
buildings
as
we
could
on
the
site
that
met
our
needs
from
an
operational
perspective
and
from
you
know
from
it.
Quite
simply
a
you
know,
a
demand
perspective
of
of
how
we
see
that
you
know
the
the
need
that
child
care
has.
You
know
for
Evanston.
I
know
that
you
know
there's
been
some
discussion
about.
H
H
The
Goddard
School
in
Skokie
down
the
street
is
on
a
waiting
list
and
you
know
I'm
not
really
sure
about
the
Bright
Horizons
in
in
downtown
Evanston,
but
that's
15
20
minutes
away
during
traffic.
So
not
a
lot
of
folks
from
from
this
neighborhood
will
be
going
over
to
Bright
Horizons.
So
there's
a
strong
need
and
a
strong
and-
and
you
know
a
very
strong
need
for
child
care.
So
they
have
a
larger.
O
O
Second
question:
is
you
have
23
people
Personnel,
yes,
465
students.
As
far
as
I
know,
the
general
government
guidelines
are
in
ratio,
one
two,
three
one
person
out
to
three
toddlers
up
to
one
to
eight
students.
When
it
comes
to
grades,
your
ratio
is
somewhere
about
one
to
seven,
which
means
that
you
probably
will
need
more
Personnel.
Can
you
defend
your
number?
Yes,.
H
So
well
so
the
infinite
ratio
is
one
for
four.
The
toddler
is
one
for
three.
The
twos
is
one
for
eight
and
children
over
three
is
one
for
ten,
so
many
of
these
rooms
will
only
have
two
teachers
at
virtually
the
entire
second
floor.
I
will
only
have
two
teachers,
so
there'll
be
one
infant
room
with
three
teachers,
two
toddler
rooms
with
four
teachers.
So
the
way
that
this
building
has
been
planned
and
constructed
will
yield.
You
know,
23
staff
members
thank.
D
Yes,
I
think
this
is
both
for
for
you
and
for
Unity.
Obviously,
the
easement
to
the
the
co-op
to
the
South
is
is
really
kind
of
a
critical
piece
in
in
the
approval.
Can
you
and
both
of
you
describe
kind
of
the
the
interactions
you've
had
with
Co-op
and
where
you
know.
D
And,
and
in
particular
you
know,
would
you
go
back
to
the
first
alternative
that
does
not
address
their
their
easement
at
all?
That
leaves
it
in
place.
Sure.
H
So,
like
I,
said
a
strong
reason
for
these
three
plans.
Being
three
separate
plans
has
been
to
address
this
easement
issue.
You
know
the
first
one.
The
first
plan
worked
wonderfully.
However,
it
really
it
didn't
work
for
the
for
the
entirety
of
the
neighborhood,
because
what
happened
for
that
first
plan
was
that
we
didn't
have
access
out
on
so
we
couldn't
get
access
out
onto
Gross
Point
at
all
because
of
the
location
of
the
current
parking
lot
as
it
stands,
thereby
we'd
have
full
access
out
onto
Central.
H
You
know
that
was
a
plan
that
we
we
presented
to
the
neighborhood.
We
had
a
neighborhood
meeting
at
the
church.
You
know,
to
be
frank:
I,
don't
recall
there
being
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
opposition
from
the
co-op,
but
there
was
substantial
opposition
from
the
neighborhood.
H
The
second
easement
we
or
the
second
site
plan
I
should
say
was-
was
an
effort
to
to
address
that
issue
from
the
entirety
of
the
neighborhood
50
100
residents
up
and
down
those
streets
that
were
really
worried
about
parents,
making
a
left-hand
turn
on
to
Central
and
kind
of
cutting
that
corner
to
get
onto
Gross.
H
Point
to
get
down
to
the
highway
when
they're
trying
to
get
to
work
if
they
needed
to
get
to
the
highway
to
get
to
work
and
that
plan
you
know
it
mollified
the
neighborhood
to
a
certain
extent
but
in
but
in
turn
the
co-op
came
back
and
said
we're
not
in
favor
of
this
at
all.
We
really
don't
like
this.
You
know
you're
forcing
us
to
now.
H
You
know,
go
through
your
parking
lot
to
get
up
to
Central
and
make
a
write-out
only
you're,
forcing
us
to
only
make
a
you
know
a
right
out
onto
Gross
Point.
You
know
that
really
doesn't
work
for
us,
and
so
then
this
third
iteration,
basically
I
think,
is
you
know
a
better
solution
than
the
co-op
currently
has
right
now,
they're,
not
you
know,
they're
not
going
to
need
to
go
through
a
parking
lot
of
you
know
someone
else's
design
or
someone
else's
maintenance
or
someone
else's.
H
You
know
issue,
you
know
if
the,
if
the
you
know
if
the
church
decides
to
move-
and
you
know,
move
their
congregation
in
this
building
sitting
here
and
you
know
you
know,
they'll
essentially
be
plowing,
the
the
you
know,
snow
plowing,
the
parking
lot
for
the
for
the
easement
there's
just
a
lot
of
different
things
that
are
going
to
go
on
there.
This
way
this
you
know,
we've
created
this
easement
specifically
for
the
co-op
it's
paved.
H
It's
got
a
curb
drainage,
the
whole
the
whole
shooting
match,
and
it
has
full
access
left
out
right
out
right
in
left
in
on
Central
it.
You
know
it
really
is
you
know
a
wonderful
case
scenario:
I,
don't
know
how
how
conversations
have
been
going
between.
H
You
know
the
attorneys
for
Unity
and
the
attorneys
for
the
co-op
I.
Don't
know
if
there's
been
much
discussion.
I
know:
we've
sent
this
plan
to
them.
I
believe
they
may
still
not
be
in
favor
of
it.
I
think
they
might
may
not
be
in
favor
of
this
plan
at
all.
So
you
know.
Fortunately,
the
the
easement
discussion
is
a
difficult
one,
especially
if
you
have
someone
that
doesn't
like
the
plan
to
begin
with,
so
is
that
Reverend
is
that?
Has
there
been
any
other
discussion
with
with
the
folks.
J
I'm
not
quite
sure
what
you're
asking
so
in
terms
of
what
our
relationship
our
working
relationship
has
been
with
with
Williamsburg
Co-op.
Is
that.
D
Kind
of
I
mean
obviously
to
sell
the
property,
whoever
buys
the
property.
Whatever
the
plan
is
either
the
easement
that's
existing.
You
know
the
current
easement
has
to
stay
in
place,
which
is
only
16
feet
wide.
So
I'm,
not
quite
sure
you
know.
That's
not
it's
not
20.
Feet
like
it
is
on
on
this
proposed
plan,
but
you
know,
can
you
you
know?
Has
that
been
an
impediment
to
the
the
developers
that
you've?
You
know,
potential
purchasers
you've
discussed?
Have
you
been
discussing?
J
We
have
attempted
to
reach
out
to
especially
Peter
ruten
is
the
president
of
the
co-op
over
there
and
we've
had
a
wonderful
relationship
for
a
number
of
years.
He's
been
very
generous
with
us,
and
we've
shared
a
lot
in
terms
of
you
know:
plowing
all
that
stuff.
If
they
for
a
long
time
they
had
more
cars
than
they
have
parking
spaces
and
we
had
plenty
of
parking
space,
so
they
were
just
using
our
our
space.
J
We
have
tried
to
reach
out
a
number
of
times,
in
fact,
I
think
as
part
of
when
it
got
to
the
point
of
involving
lawyers.
There
was
a
whole
sort
of
log
of
all
of
the
interactions
and
the
conversations
and
the
emails
that
had
been
back
and
forth
and
we
just
really
never
got
to
a
space
where
it
felt
like
there
was
any
receptivity.
So
at
some
point
we
stopped
inviting
I
think
it
was
a
third
attorney's
request
that
all
of
our
communication
be
directed
through
the
attorneys.
So
that's
pretty
much.
A
Okay,
I
have
a
couple
questions:
Mr
Worthington
I
hate
for
you
to
have
to
come
and
sit
through
a
meeting
and
not
present
to
us
you're
getting
frequent
flyer
miles
with
us
recently.
I.
E
A
A
Q
So
the
access
drive
on
Central
in
the
Southeast
Corner
that
will
be
right
in
right
out.
The
last
plan
that
we
presented
was
full
access
and
I
think
you've
all
seen.
There
was
a
letter
from
idot
that
didn't
want
full
access.
They
wanted
right
in
right
out
the
drive,
the
Eastern
Drive
on
Central
that
was
going
to
be
a
write-out
only
without
that
left
turn
in.
Q
We
need
to
get
some
access
from
Northbound
Central,
so
that
inbound
will
be
for
left
turns
only
and
that
will
be
done
by
signage,
and
we
will
probably
modify
that
plan
to
provide
that
channelization,
like
you
see,
for
the
right
turnout,
only
not
to
square
it
off,
but
to
provide
that
angle
to
further
direct
people.
So
it
will
be
our
left
in
and
a
right
out
and
we'll
do
that
with
signage
and
channelization.
It
doesn't
show
it
well
on
this
site
plan
and
I
apologize,
but
we'll
work
with
your
staff.
Q
I
wasn't
at
the
Dapper
meeting,
but
I
understand
everyone's
pretty
comfortable
with
that
and
then
the
far
drive
is
the
easement
I.
Believe
it's
20
feet.
Correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong
two-way
traffic,
you
know
which
is
fine
for
the
low
volume
of
traffic
that
they're
going
to
have,
that
will
be
a
full
access
like
it
is
now.
Q
So
those
are
the
three
drives.
Anyone
who
wants
to
go
south
on
Gross
Point
before
see
them
using
the
right
out.
That's
the
quickest
way.
They
don't
have
to
go
to
the
central
light.
Anyone
going
back
to
the
north
will
take.
You
know,
Central
out
and
use
that
traffic
signal
same
with
anyone
who
wants
to
go
back
downtown
and
take
Central.
Q
You
know
we're
looking
at
maybe
about
45
trips,
doing
that
in
the
peak
hour,
that's
about
one
or
two
every
cycle,
so
you're
only
adding
one
or
two
vehicles
every
cycle,
there's
more
than
enough
capacity
and
green
time
to
accommodate
that
traffic.
It's
there's
really
very
little
traffic
on
that
portion
of
Central
right
now,
so
there
is
sufficient
capacity
to
accommodate
it.
As
you
guys
all
know,
it's
an
interesting
intersection
and
the
East
leg
and
the
West
leg
of
central
works
on
a
split
phase.
Q
A
And
is
there
a
concern
for
the
I'll
call
it
the
easternmost
entrance
on
Central
you're,
saying
that's
a
left
in
only
right.
So
how
does
that
work
with
any
traffic
standing
at
lights?.
Q
That
is
about
250
feet
from
the
center
of
Central,
so
it's
probably
like
probably
got
200
feet
of
stacking
180
feet
of
stacking,
even
call
it
150..
You
can
accommodate
six
cars
there
before
it
even
blocks.
Q
The
driveway
and,
like
I,
said
we're
looking
at
two
or
three
a
cycle
at
the
most
and
there's
very
little
traffic
there
now,
so
we
don't
foresee
it
as
a
queuing
issue
backing
up
past
there
and
if
our
traffic's
coming
out-
and
let's
say
we
have
a
surge
at
one
time-
it's
going
to
back
up
into
our
drive.
So
it's
not
going
to
be
affecting
that
left
turn
in
anyways,
but
we
don't
foresee
that
I
mean
we're
talking
45
cars
over
an
hour,
that's
less
than
one
a
minute
coming
out
of
there.
Q
Q
I
mean
they're
coming
in,
but
it's
over
that
two
and
a
half
hour
period,
so
they're
coming
in,
but
it's
really
no
peak
and
if
you
look
at
those
graphs
and
those
are
actually
children
coming
in
and
some
of
those
are
with
parents
that
have
two
children,
so
it
doesn't
necessarily
mean
it's
one
car,
but
it
was
two
one,
two
one.
Maybe
three
two
one
every
couple
minutes
and
there
was
a
peak
of
seven,
maybe
at
one
point
or
sixth,
but
we
have
in
excess
of
12
parking
spaces.
Q
All
the
parents
are
supposed
to
park.
Unless
we
get
into
the
issue
that
we
talked
about
and
you
know,
I've
been
working
with
Chuck
since
95.
all
of
his
schools
operate
the
same
way.
None
of
them
have
issues
we've
gone
through
many
communities.
Who've
had
all
these
same
questions
and
Chuck,
he
can
testify
more
than
me
really
hasn't
had
any
issues.
None
of
the
communities
have
been
upset.
It's
really
been
a
great
asset
flow.
A
And
one
last
question:
how
wide
is
the
the
access
drive?
That's
on
the
West
Side
on
the
western
end
of
Central
Street
there
that
would
be
used
by
the
co-op.
Q
A
E
R
Name
is
Lance
Lauderdale,
the
architect
for
Kensington
School
I
live
in
Hinsdale,
the
depending
on
where
the
transition
strip
should
be
defined.
I
know
it's
a
10
foot
transition
strip,
but
we
have
five
feet
of
from
the
West
property
line.
We
have
essentially
five
feet
of
soil
green
space
with
some
existing
trees
that
now
would
most
likely
be
preserved
and
then
the
curb
the
drive
and
then
the
back
of
curve
so
and
then
the
playground
which
that's.
R
N
Commissioner
Hallock
oh
yeah,
this
is
this
is
not
a
question.
It's
really
a
statement.
Q
N
And
I'm
repeating
probably
what
I
what
I
said
last
time
and
what
I
said
last
time
is
I
drive
this
route
coming
West
on
Central
and
then
turning
on
Gross
Point
just
about
every
day
and
I
can
tell
you
those
lights,
it's
a
cluster,
it's
it's
just
awful
there
and
and
so
I
I
guess.
My
question
is:
have
you
had
conversations
with
idot
or
whoever
is
responsible
for
that?
The
lights
in
that
intersection,
or
is
this
down
the
road
and
I'm
sure
it's
really
not
our
purview
anyway,
but
I
I.
Q
I
think
I
died
and
the
city
have
looked
at
it
over
years
and
years
and
I
think
they
have
come
to
a
point
where
they
think
they've
have
the
most
efficient
signal.
Timing.
Let
me
finish:
I
don't
disagree
with
you,
but
it's
very
difficult
when
you
have
a
six-legged
intersection
like
we
have
here.
You
know
it's
the
same
problem
in
the
city
of
Chicago.
When
you
got
Milwaukee
or
Clybourn,
it's
very
difficult
to
do
it.
You
know
part
of
the
conditions
you
know
is
us
to
look
back
at
it.
F
I
have
a
question
about
the
entrance
the
Eastern
entrance
on
Central.
How
would
you
feel
if
that
got
changed
to
a
write-in
right
out
instead
of
a
write
out
left
in.
Q
Q
And
we
want
to
be
able
to
get
our
traffic
in
most
of
our
travel.
Probably
99
of
our
traffic
is
coming
from
Central
or
gross
point,
so
somehow
we
got
to
get
anyone
coming
from
the
south
and
and
the
easiest
way
is
to
make
the
left
on
Central
and
the
Left
End,
but,
like
I,
said,
Central
carries
a
very,
very
low
volume
of
traffic.
The
proximity
of
that
drive
in
any
queuing
really
shouldn't
be
an
issue.
C
Q
Going
to
do
everything
we
can
to
that
driveway
from
signage
and
channelization.
The
other
is,
you
know
this
is
a
private
school
Chuck
can
carry
a
bigger
Hammer
than
most
and
you
know
work
with
his
parents.
They
want
to
be
good
parents.
If
you
know
he
wants
to
be
a
good
neighbor.
If
there's
stuff
going
on
I'm
sure
Chuck
will
give
out
his
number
to
all
the
residents
to
make
sure
talks
about
the
Steve
is
looking
at
me,
but
he
wants
to
be
a
good
neighbor.
Q
We've
had
a
lot
of
these
same
concerns,
come
up
in
other
communities
and
for
the
most
part
they
haven't
materialized
and
someone
do
it
once
in
a
while.
It's
like
the
90
10
rule,
I
think
I've
talked
to
you
about
90
of
the
people.
Follow
the
rules
of
field
Rose,
ten
percent
that
don't
and
we're
going
to
try
to
narrow
that
down
even
further
and
like
I
said
it's,
it's
a
private
school,
so
you
know
you
can
carry
a
little
more
weight
in
punishing
parents
and
those
sort
of
things.
F
Another
question
is
there
and
this
might
be
for
the
applicant
instead
of
you,
but
let
me
know:
is
there
any
kind
of
differentiation
you
make
in
terms
of
who's
allowed
to
park
in
which
spaces,
in
order
to
make
a
differentiation
between
the
staff
and
the
parents?
No.
H
We
don't
do
that
typically
anywhere,
but
that's
not
to
say
that
we're
opposed
to
that
right.
So
if,
if
we
realize
that
that
it's
of
benefit
to
the
traffic
pattern
and
the
Flows
In
out
of
the
school
to
have
our
staff
members
parking
in
that
in
that
row
of
spaces
along
Gross
Point
to
give
parents
a
little
more
proximity
to
the
front
of
the
building,
that's
typically
what
happens
anyway.
H
We,
the
teachers,
tend
to
kind
of
park
at
a
distance
to
give
parents.
You
know
easier
access,
they're,
not
walking
through
a
snowy
parking
lot
with
a
car
carrier
or
something
like
that.
So
yeah
we
can
make
any
changes,
but.
A
Any
other
questions,
if
not
I'd
like
to
move
into
testimony
from
the
community.
Well,
do
you
have
one.
D
More
question
yes,
I,
just
I,
think
probably
either
the
architecture.
The
engineer
I'd
like
to
get
a
little
more
clarification
on
the
there
are
two
existing
easements
there's
a
ComEd
easement
and
then
all
the
the
one
for
first
Williamsburg
and
I'd
kind
of
like
to
find
out
what
utilities,
especially
that
would
have
to
be
relocated.
It
looked
like,
depending
on
the
plans,
it
was
water
and
sewer,
and
how
does
how
does
that
all
work,
and
and
the
same
with
the
the
ComEd
easement.
S
Layout
for
for
this
plan,
currently
in
in
in
the
existing
easement,
which
you
know,
Falls
basically
dead
center
of
the
proposed
location
of
the
building,
there's
a
a
water
line
that
feeds
the
co-op
and
there's
also
an
adjacent
sewer
line.
S
S
You
know
through
and
file,
basically
the
easement
same
easement
as
the
proposed
access
along
the
west
and
there's
also
in
terms
of
the
water
service.
We
have
a
couple
options:
the
ones
that's
that
we
seems
to
most
be
the
most
direct
route
to
the
city's
water
main
grid
is
along
Gross
Point
Road
to
to
reconnect
the
water
service
to
the
public
main
there
I
believe,
there's
also
might
be
some
dry
utilities
in
that
in
that
easement.
S
Maybe
a
t
I
believe
ComEd
is
overhead
along
along
the
rear
of
the
property,
but
but
again
that
you
know
the
details
of
that.
Will
you
know
we
would
be
the
final
details
of
that.
We
worked
out
during
the
final
design
and.
D
S
Yeah
I
mean
generally,
if
it's
a
if
it's
a
utility
that
serves
the
the
co-op
and
it's
it's
routed
through
the
School
site.
That
would
require
an
easement.
S
So,
yes,
that
would
that
would
be
included
in
the
easement
agreement.
D
Okay
and
then
I
was
looking
at.
You
know,
one
of
the
the
plattus
survey
that
was
prepared
by
H.H
bremmer
was
in
the
packet
and
it
looks
like
they
there's
a
20
feet
closest
to
the
West
property
line
that
doesn't
look
like
it
was
in
the
first
Williamsburg
easement
and
I
was
just
kind
of
you
know,
but
yet
on
our
diagram,
that's
in
our
packet
on
page
11,
the
thing
you
know
that
the
easement
goes
all
the
way
to
the
West
property
line
and
I
was
Do.
You
have
a
I.
R
So
the
way
I
understand
it,
there's
a
couple
of
easements
like
you
were
talking
about
and
on
those
surveys
it
follows
the
South
property
line
from
Gross
Point
about
15
feet
and
then
on
that
that
point
of
the
property
where
it
turns
it
follows
back
towards
the
west
down
that
angled
property
line.
So
that's
a
that's
a
utility
easement.
If
you
will
so
that's
that's
the
two,
let's
say
and
there's
the
other
easement
that
is
not
well
defined
anywhere
on
the
surveys
for
the
driveway
access
to
the
north.
So.
D
It
was
toward
the
end,
it
was,
it
was
a
hand
drawn.
It
was
really
kind
of
a
hand-drawn
survey
sheet.
D
R
R
This
it
yes,
okay,
that
was
probably
done,
60
60
or
70
years
ago,
I
think
yeah.
R
That
we
don't
even
know
if
that
was
recorded.
The
latest
survey
that
was
done
has
all
the
actual
recorded
easements.
Okay,.
D
R
R
Never
installed,
this
was
a
proposed
survey
from
that
long
ago.
R
And
we
did
go
to
the
Cook
County
Records
to
try
to
find
anything
we
could
on
those
and
we
couldn't
all
that
survey
wasn't
didn't
completely
make
sense
in
their
records.
A
Any
other
questions
for
the
applicant
at
this
point:
if
not
we'll
move
on
to
taking
public
testimony,
I
have
20
people
who
have
signed
up
to
speak,
15
of
whom
are
within
the
notification
district
and
five
of
whom
are
not.
A
A
So
I
will
call
names
and
please
come
up
again
say
your
name
for
the
record.
If
I
mispronounce
it
I
will
apologize
in
advance,
first
Speaker
I
have
signed
up,
is
Leslie
Brown
and
I'm
going
to
go
through
the
people
who
get
three
minutes
first,
so
I'll
skip
over
those
who
don't
live
within
the
defined
area.
U
Hi,
thank
you
very
much
good
evening.
My
name
is
Leslie
Brown
and
I
live
directly
across
the
street
from
the
proposed
plan
development,
which
is
Kensington
School
at
3517,
Central
Street.
To
start
I
am
here
in
opposition
to
this
Proposal
full
stop
for
every
plan
development
proposal.
There
must
be
compatibility
with
the
city's
adopted,
comprehensive
General
plan
of
the
many
items
that
must
be
considered.
I
will
address
a
few
that
are
critical
to
me
and
this
discussion:
essential
character
of
the
neighborhood
land,
use
intensity,
traffic
impact
and
parking.
U
When
the
church
was
built
on
the
property
in
1960,
it
was
their
goal
to
blend
into
this
community
of
modest
mid-century
homes
in
terms
of
size,
scope
and
design.
The
building
and
its
uses
worked
in
harmony
with
the
neighborhood
Kensington
School
three
times
in
size,
scope
and
vastly
more
intense
in
its
use
of
the
land
is
completely
out
of
alignment
with
the
current
neighborhood.
There
is
nothing
in
its
current
design
that
mirrors
the
neighbors
across
the
street.
Most
of
our
neighborhood
streets
have
no
sidewalks.
U
If
they
do
and
I'm
sorry,
we've
heard
nothing
from
our
aldermen
that
they're
building
more
sidewalks.
If
they
do,
the
sidewalk
is
a
fraction
of
the
size
of
regular
sidewalks.
Every
day
our
children
walk
in
the
streets
to
get
to
the
buses.
People
walk
their
animals
in
the
street
and
folks
with
Mobility
challenges
are
forced
to
use
the
street
because
the
sidewalk,
if
available,
is
inadequate
to
their
needs.
U
At
the
same
time,
you
have
a
school
with
165,
kids
and
23
employees
and
service
vehicles
to
handle
catering
and
garbage
that
is
nearly
400
cars
a
day
from
Kensington
that
will
drive
in
and
out
of
our
neighborhood.
This
is
so
enormously
unsafe
when
you
add
thousands
of
cars
that
race
around
the
turn
from
Gross
Point
and
the
fact
that
Kensington
has
only
been
granted
a
possibility
of
a
right
turn
in
and
a
right
turnout
of
the
parking
lot
off
Gross
Point.
U
In
order
to
turn
right
on
kensington's
parking
lot,
all
of
our
back
streets
will
be
used
to
access
that
parking
lot
from
the
north.
Please
do
the
math
and
envision
how
that
impacts.
Our
neighborhood
accidents
and
traffic
congestion
will
become
a
daily
issue
and
for
what,
in
the
proposal,
kendington
States,
it
will
serve
evanston's
Working
Families,
Child
Care
tuition
in
Kensington
starts
at
twenty
six
thousand
dollars
per
year.
U
There
are
already
14
Child
Care
Centers
within
three
miles
of
our
neighborhood
and
the
folks
that
truly
and
sincerely
need
the
child
care
in
Evanston
will
most
likely
never
be
able
to
afford
that
price
tag.
This
isn't
a
proposal
to
serve
our
residents.
It's
a
proposal
to
serve
as
a
Thruway
for
our
wealthier
neighbors
from
the
north
to
drop
off
their
kids
on
the
way
to
the
expressway
as
Mr
marles
referred
to.
U
I
will
end
with
this
I
want
the
church
to
be
able
to
sell
and
get
out
from
underneath
whatever
they
need
that
they've
incurred.
I
am
not
a
naysayer
just
to
be
a
naysayer,
but
this
current
proposal
is
a
disaster
on
so
many
levels.
If
the
church
had
taken
the
time
to
engage
stakeholders
which
I'm
sorry,
whatever
they
said
about
meeting
with
neighbors
is
patently
false.
We've
had
one
meeting
in
just
over
two
years
and
it
was
opened
with
a
statement
of
thank
you
for
coming
out
in
support,
never
considering
what
our
our
concerns
were.
U
If
the
church
had
taken
the
time
to
engage
the
stakeholders,
we
could
have
been
helpful
in
many
ways,
for
example,
housing
which
is
badly
needed
in
Evanston
could
have
been
discussed.
Instead,
my
multiple
emails
to
Kurtz
have
been
ignored
and
declined
to
meet
in
person
to
collaborate
and
as
a
consequence,
we
now
have
a
proposal
that
negatively
impacts
our
community.
Please
don't
recommend
this
for
approval.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you.
The
next
speaker
I
have
signed
up,
is
Brian
Mahoney.
V
Good
evening,
thank
you.
Everyone
I
appreciate
your
time
and
attention.
I
am
Brian.
Mahoney
first
I
had
three
points
of
order
which
I
put
in
my
written
comments.
The
first
is
at
the
residence
of
first
Williamsburg
did
not
receive
written
notice
of
this
hearing
for
City
Rules.
This
hearing
is
therefore
invalid.
V
V
Third
there's
an
ambiguity
in
the
application
as
to
whether
it's
on
behalf
of
an
individual
Mr,
marlus
or
corporation
on
page
two,
he
says
it's
an
individual.
He
also
fills
out
in
the
disclosure
statement.
Page
six
of
six,
an
indication
of
a
corporation
I
ran
at
search
last
night
in
the
Secretary
of
State.
There's
no
reference
for
marlus
or
Kensington
I.
Don't
know
if
there
is
such
a
corporation,
if
the
city
has
vetted
that,
if
there
is
a
corporation,
what
its
name
is
or
where
it's
domiciled
or
registered.
V
So
there
are
procedural
infirmities
here
that
render
this
hearing
void
and
the
application
should
be
done.
The
proper
way
start
again.
If
the
church
wants
to
make
an
application
and
have
Mr
miles
be
his
designee
as
Allowed
by
the
application,
they
can
do
that
they
did
not
do
that.
The
whole
process
isn't
valid
at
initio.
V
With
regard
to
the
substance,
I
want
to
pick
up
on
the
great
comments
from
Leslie
I
can
tell
you
I
attended
a
meeting
at
the
Unity
Church
I
tried
to
engage
Reverend
Kurt.
He
told
me
he
could
not
speak
to
me
because
he
had
been
so
advised
by
a
broker
for
Greystone,
so
the
notion
that
they
tried
to
communicate
with
the
co-op
is
simply
not
true,
at
least
in
large
part
and
completely.
In
my
experience,
Reverend
Kirk
just
confirmed
that
there
are
two
housing
buyers.
V
Buyers
would
have
bought
the
property
and
developed
housing,
which
is
a
very
important
need
for
Evanston.
Those
should
have
been
pursued
in
cooperation
with
the
co-op
should
have
been
engendered
to
lead
to
a
better
result
than
the
property
that
residences
Leslie
are
so
adamantly
opposed
to
and
which
would
dramatically
reduce
the
value
of
the
co-op
residences.
V
There
has
been
no
ease
of
an
agreement.
The
easement
is
a
legal
right,
I'm.
The
executor
of
the
estate
of
Catherine
Mahoney,
whose
deceased
who
owns
two
shares
in
first
Williamsburg
Corporation,
should
extend
this
application
is
approved.
I
would
argue
that
it's
a
taking
and
would
reduce
the
value
of
the
property
and
I
will
seek
all
legal
redress
I
need
to.
In
that
regard,
the
the
process
here
is
deficient.
The
I
dot
feedback
and
the
plan
do
not
make
any
sense.
V
As
councilman
Hulk
mentioned,
the
traffic
is
terrible,
as
of
today
it's
only
to
get
worse.
The
notion
is
the
consultant
referenced.
It's
a
six-legged
intersection,
they're
bad
they're
bad
as
of
today
they're
only
going
to
get
worse,
the
notion
of
comparing
Elmhurst
or
this
Kensington
property
in
Elmhurst
or
the
one
on
Ogden
I.
Believe
it's
in
Hinsdale
is
just
intellectually
disingenuous.
Those
are
not
comparable
situations.
The
layout,
the
structure,
the
traffic,
the
absence
of
a
six-legged
intersection,
it's
the
completely
irrelevant
I,
will
see
that
my
time
is
over
I
appreciate
it.
A
Thank
you
Miss
rugby.
Would
you
like
to
respond
to
any
of
the
the
comments
that
were
made
about
the
appropriateness
of
the
application?
I,
don't
know
if
you
want
to
staff
wants
to
respond
to
that
in
any
way.
M
Thank
you,
chair,
Rogers
I
would
just
ask
that
staff
confirms
that
notices
were
sent
out
per
legal
requirements.
M
W
A
W
Be
time
flies
when
you're
having
fun
I've
lived
at
that
particular
residence
3600
Central
Street
for
over
50
years,
I've
had
a
good
relationship
with
the
church.
However,
I
come
to
the
talk
about
the
proposal.
I've
seen
a
change
in
the
neighborhood
of
we
all
have
over
the
past
50
years.
There
are
now
more
young
families,
more
dogs
and
children
ages,
several
months,
not
the
dogs,
but
the
children
months
to
teens
as
well
as
senior
families.
W
All
of
these
groups
walk
at
varying
times
and
speeds
in
the
street
because
there's
never
been,
as
has
been
stated,
appropriate
sidewalks
for
walking,
and
it
is
generally
a
quiet,
family
neighborhood.
If
you
add
to
this
proposal:
165
children,
parents,
cars
of
course,
staff
and
service
Vehicles.
This
will
create
an
enormous
traffic
pattern
and
again
that
has
been
underlined
several
times
over
the
many
years.
W
The
intersection
of
Gross
Point,
Road,
Crawford,
Avenue
and
Central
Street
I
have
seen
many
many
accidents
and
when
I'm
making
a
left-hand
turn
onto
Central
Street
from
Gross
Point
Road
I
have
to
wait.
I
hold
four
or
five
cars
behind
me,
and
this
could
be
in
the
middle
of
the
day
so
take
that
in
the
morning
a
couple
of
other
issues
have
having
been
a
director
of
An
Early.
W
Childhood
Center
is
the
increase
of
garbage
due
to
diapers
foodstuffs
for
the
school,
also
loss
of
trees
and
shade
in
the
area,
though,
we've
been
told
that
they'll
be
Replacements
and
the
playground,
as
I
saw
it
on
the
plan,
as
proposed
in
the
middle
of
the
yard,
has
little
or
no
shade
due
to
the
fact
of
where
it's
being
placed
and
in
addition
to
the
Daily
arrival
of
families
and
I'll,
try
to
do
this
faster.
W
A
You
Peter
Rutan.
X
Hi
I'm
Peter,
roton
I'm,
the
president
of
first
Williamsburg,
Corporation
I,
did
want
to
mention
that
today,
I
did
get
an
email
from
Katie
ashbaugh.
Is
that
the
right
way
at
Katie,
high
and
I
did
respond
with
an
email
that
so
that
we,
because
I'm
the
president
of
the
co-opers
of
12
units
that
we
you
gave
me
the
opportunity.
I
appreciate
that
to
have
more
than
three
minutes
to
have
the
10
minutes.
Because
of
being
so
I
just
wanted
to
check
with
you
whether
that
was
sufficient.
A
What
we
do
is
if,
if
people
cannot
be
present
for
a
large
group
of
people,
we
Grant
additional
time,
yeah
I
have
a
feeling.
Many
of
your
people
you
represent,
are
also
here
in
the
neighborhood
and
will
be
I'm
sorry
in
the
room
and
will
be
speaking
well.
X
X
You
firstly
I
want
to
thank
the
everyone
for
coming
out
and
it's
great
to
see
a
lot
of
stakeholders
here
and
I
wanted
to
say
a
couple
of
start
with
something
get
my
notes,
Here
together
here
for
a
moment,
I
wanted
to
address
just
something
that
commissioner
Rogers
that
you
had
mentioned
earlier
on.
If
I
understood
you
you,
you
mentioned
that
the
proposal
has
been
tweaked
in
certain
ways,
and
you
ask
that
we
address
ourselves
kind
of
to
the
newer
things
since
you
didn't
want.
X
You
know
going
over
the
other
things.
I
think
that
it
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense
to
me,
because
the
proposal
was
the
The.
Proposal
is
still
something
that
we
consider
at
first
Williamsburg
and
I
know
that
a
lot
of
the
neighbors
consider
to
be
something
that
is
completely
out
of
scale.
I,
think
Leslie
was
very
comprehensive
and
he
took
a
lot
of
my
thunder
good
job.
Thank
you.
You've
made
my
job
easier
so,
but
in
any
case,
so
I
wanted
to
just
address
that.
X
The
reason
I'm
speaking
about
these
issues
with
the
proposal
is
because
I
think
that
they're
still
very
relevant
and
and
that
the
proposal
in
itself
is
is
not
something
that
will
be
positive
for
the
neighborhood
I
did
want
to
read
what
first
Williamsburg
position
on
the
easement,
because
I
think
there's
been
different
kinds
of
ways
of
thinking
about
it.
X
I've
lived
there
for
12
years.
My
address
is
2544
Gross
Point,
Road
I
raised
two
children
there
and
it's
a
very
it's.
A
beautiful,
lovely,
neighborhood
I
do
see
kids
walking
down
the
street
bike
down.
The
street
I
see
little
dogs
walking
alongside
strollers,
and
this
is
going
on
very
regularly,
commissioner.
How
is
it
halick
or
halik?
X
Okay,
when
you
spoke
about
going
through
there
and
seeing
what
it's
really
looking
like?
What
the
traffic
really
feels
like
I
had
a
discussion
with
Mr
Griffith
this
last
week,
in
which
he
said,
one
of
the
things
that
we
could
bring
is
a
sense
of
our
lived
experience
of
what
the
traffic
is
and
I
can
say
that
I
have
seen
numerous
either
accidents
or
the
glass
that's
being
cleaned
up,
and
whenever
my
kids
were
crossing
the
street
I
remember
when
my
son
was
in
sixth
grade.
X
I
was
very
nervous
about
him,
Crossing
that
multiple
Street,
where
it's
Gross,
Point,
Road
and
Central
and
Crawford,
because
there's
cars
coming
from
all
angles
and
the
other
thing
is
that
people
are
in
a
hurry
to
get
to
the
expressway.
So
there's
kind
of
this
flow
that
starts
happening.
People
do
rights
on
reds
Etc.
So
that's
a
major
concern
already
to
me.
The
as
Leslie
said
the
traffic
is,
is
not
even
adequately
safe
for
children
or
for
adults
so
but
and
I'll
turn
to
the
easement.
X
Our
Council
has
obtained
an
Alta
survey,
an
updated
title
report
from
Chicago
Title,
Insurance
and
they've
confirmed
the
easement
benefits
first
Williamsburg
parcel
dominant
easement
tenant
and
cannot
be
modified
absent
to
consent
of
first
Williamsburg.
We
have,
since
the
development
of
the
co-op
we
have
had
continuously
used
the
easement
to
the
full
extent
of
its
boundaries.
In
addition,
first
Williamsburg
has
continuously
asserted
and
enforced.
Its
rights
to
the
easement
has
no
intention
of
waving
or
agreeing
to
any
modification
or
termination
of
the
easement
and
will
continue
to
enforce
its
rights.
X
A
serving
and
tenant
of
an
easement
has
no
right
to
terminate
the
easement
Kensington
school,
isn't
even
a
survey
and
tenant
of
the
easement,
as
they
are
not
the
title
holder
to
the
church
property
and
it's
standing
to
take
any
action
regarding
title
matters
as
suspect.
At
best
now,
I
did
want
to
mention
another
statement
that
commissioner
Mr
Rogers
mentioned
that
there
was
a
discussion
of
what
would
happen
if
we
don't
make
an
agreement
on
the
easement
and
I
know
we're
just
kind
of
speaking
a
little
bit
off
the
cuff.
X
But
one
thing
I
do
want
to
say
is
I,
do
admire,
persistence
and
I.
Think
Kensington
School
has
been
very
persistent,
but
persistence
doesn't
mean
that
it's
a
good
proposal
and
so
whether
the
our
job
as
the
first
Williamsburg
Corporation
and
his
good
neighbors
is
to
make
sure
that
anything
that
that
that
that
we
bring
our
intelligence
to
the
question
of.
Is
this
an
enhancement
to
the
neighborhood
and
I
think
it
is
definitely
not
an
enhancement.
X
So
my
question
to
the
Commissioners
is:
if
we
are
doing
development
shouldn't
it
be
something
that
makes
a
better
experience.
That
makes
something
better
for
the
future
now
I
know.
Mr
Morales
has
spoken
about
commitments
that
he
has
to
going
for
the
Long
Haul
to,
and
someone
spoke
for
him
in
terms
of
traffic.
If
there's
traffic
problems
they
would
talk
to
parents.
X
None
of
this
is
contractual
which
I
understand,
but
that
means
that
these
are
not
promises
that
are
backed
up
by
any
kind
of
requirement,
so
it
could
happen
or
it
could
not
happen
and
I
think
that's
critical,
I'm
almost
done
I
know
you're.
Trying
to
move
me
along
and
I
want
to
give
other
people
a
chance
too
I
want
to.
Let
me
see,
is
there
anything
else
here
in
terms
of
the
church's
position,
the
change
is
difficult.
X
I
think
that
a
change
toward
an
improvement
is
not
so
difficult
and
I
think
that
the
issue
here
is
not
that
it's
change.
I
think
there
are
quite
a
few
people
here
in
the
neighborhood
who
have
been
here
many
years,
who
have
a
sense
of
community
and
are
really
trying
to
contribute
their
time
and
effort
to
think
about.
How
can
we
improve
this
and
understand
that
this
is
a
dynamic
community,
that
things
are
changing
and
developing,
but
I
think
that
it's
your
job
to
be
a.
X
A
G
G
There's
a
lot
that
I
would
like
to
say
about
this:
in
addition
to
being
a
voice
over
actor
I
work
in
the
John
Hancock
building,
so
I
drive
through
that
intersection,
as
one
of
you
Commissioners,
so
pleasantly
called
it.
G
A
cluster
I
drive
through
that
every
single
day
as
well
and
I,
can
tell
you
from
my
drive
to
the
Hancock
building,
that
is
the
worst
intersection
I
drive
through
and
I
honestly
believe
that
there
is
no
way
that
this
project
that
this
development
will
work
currently
with
how
that
intersection
is
laid
out
until
some
something
is
fixed
about
those
lights.
There's
just
no
way
it
can
work
with
the
addition
of
any
sort
of
traffic
in
that
area.
G
In
addition,
I'd
like
to
talk
about
just
the
tuition
for
the
school,
so
in
the
letter
dated
on
February
8
2022
Kensington
School
states
that
approximately
81
percent
of
children
in
this
area
do
not
have
a
child
care
option
should
they
need
it
now
that
may
be
the
case,
but
with
their
current
tuition
and
also
based
on
the
demographic
detail
report
their
tuition
far
outpaces.
What
HHS
recommends
for
a
family
budget
for
tuition
payments
HHS
recommends?
G
So
while
it
may
be
true
that
the
that
building
a
new
school
will
allow
students
or
allow
preschoolers
to
have
a
great
educational
experience,
I
don't
believe
this
school
benefits
the
actual
neighborhood
that
they're
building
it
in
it
benefits
the
neighboring
towns.
It
benefits
some
of
the
Richer
parts
of
Evanston.
It
doesn't
benefit
us
and
to
me,
that's
the
key
part
of
building
any
sort
of
educational
environment
or
educational
building
in
the
area.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
Mr
Roberts,
Kathy,
Leone,.
Y
Hello,
commissioner,
everyone
thank
you.
I'm
Kathy,
Leone
I
live
at
3250,
3253
Central
Street,
less
than
two
blocks
away
from
unity
in
Evanston
and
I've
lived
there
for
almost
20
years.
I
also
walk
my
dogs
every
day,
sometimes
twice
a
day
and
go
for
many
neighborhood
walks,
so
I'm
very,
very
familiar
with
the
traffic
patterns
of
the
Central
Street
Gross
Point,
Road,
neighborhood
I
am
so
first
I
can
understand
and
relate
to
the
folks
who
are
experiencing
big
changes
in
their
neighborhood.
Y
Four
years
ago
there
was
a
10
single
story,
cottage-like
rental
units
right
next
door.
To
me,
these
units
were
unassuming
but
I
liked
that
they
were
well
maintained
and
mainly
served
long-term
renters.
The
owner
developer,
skirmerheart
decided
to
tear
those
down
and
tear
down
those
10
units
and
get
the
property
rezone
to
build
14
two-story
rental
units
with
parking
garages
yikes.
Personally,
that
meant
there
would
be
seven
large
AC
units,
literally
right,
literally
five
feet
from
my
backyard
I.
Would
the
property
was
right?
Y
Next
to
me,
I
was
very
invested
at
what
was
going
on
with
the
property.
So,
just
like
this
I
attended
a
an
OUC
meeting
to
express
my
concerns
because
of
pushback
from
neighbors
skirmerhorn
came
back
with
several
plans
and
met
with
neighbors
to
discuss
options.
I
was
very
active
in
those
meetings,
not
because
I
wanted
to
stop
the
project
completely,
but
because
I
knew
that
change,
regardless
of
whether
I
wanted
or
not
was
going
to
happen.
Y
So
it
served
me
the
neighbors
ever
Evanston
and
skirmhorn
to
help
determine
a
final
plan,
but
that's
because
I
cared
I
was
invested
and
willing
to
compromise
and
played
the
part
of
being
a
good
neighbor.
Y
The
second
point
I
want
to
make
is
that
I
happen
to
drive
by
Kensington
and
Glenview
recently
and
I.
Didn't
know
it
was
Kensington
but
I.
Remember
thinking
what
is
that
building
is
so
beautiful,
beautifully,
landscaped
well
maintained.
Lo
and
behold
it
it
turned
out
to
be
Kensington
and
Glenview
and
I
believe
that
they
will
continue
that
type
of
aesthetic
and
I
would
be
thrilled
to
have
such
a
beautiful
and
well-maintained
property
in
the
area.
Y
And
lastly,
I
am
a
member
of
unity
and
started
attending
just
a
couple
of
years
ago
is
a
wonderful
and
welcoming
Community
with
kind
open
and
thoughtful
people,
and
that
all
starts
with
the
at
the
top
with
Kurt
Kondra
I.
Welcome
you
all
to
please
join
us
on
a
Sunday
service
at
10,
30.
Shameless
plug
especially
any
of
the
neighbors.
So
thank
you.
Z
Thank
you
Commissioners
for
allowing
us
all
to
have
our
comments.
I
have
not
been
in
a
previous
meeting,
so
I
don't
want
to
repeat
what
has
been
spoken,
but
I
want
to
speak
a
bit
more
philosophically
about
why
I
believe
what
I
do.
My
name
is
Sharon
Myers
I
live
at
1123,
Hall,
Terrace
and
I
believe
that
the
school
a
school
is
a
reflection
of
the
health
of
the
community
because
of
education.
Education
is
the
future
that
benefits
us
all.
Z
So
with
that
match
in
mind,
there
are
a
few
things
I'd
like
to
point
out.
One
is
that
this
low-rise
building
has
a
very
light
footprint,
with
lasting
value,
light
footprint
in
Ingress
and
egress
and
in
short
hours,
because
it
is
not
a
high
school.
It's
a
preschool.
It's
a
little
kid's
school,
it's
an
early
education
development
and
that
would
be
very
different
from
a
condo
development
right,
as
has
been
mentioned
before,
or
mixed
housing
with
Ingress
egress
at
all
hours
right.
Z
Z
Secondly,
is
the
proposed
ownership?
This
is
a
man
who
runs
a
family
business
and
has
been
invested
in
the
community
and
in
communication
from
the
very
beginning
and
I
do
believe
in
either
my
professional
reference
that
is
rare
for
someone
to
be
that
invested
to
be
very
patient
to
be
listening
ever
to
take
action
and
make
changes
with
redraft
after
redraft
after
redraft.
Z
Z
We
cannot
stay,
and
so
we
have
trusted
in
this
process
to
find
a
new
space
sell
this
space
to
someone
who
we
do
believe
in
our
best
heart
of
hearts
represents
what
we
are
looking
for
in
spiritual,
mindfulness,
mindfulness
and
education,
and
that
is
Kensington
School
in
the
way
that
we
have
seen
felt
understood
all
the
way
through
and
with
that
in
mind,
we
do
believe
that
Kensington
will
be
a
good
Steward
of
the
land
and
of
the
community.
Thank.
A
All
right,
Larry,
raffle.
E
E
AA
You
so
much
my
name
is
Larry
raffle
I
live
at
3509
Central
Street
directly
across
from
the
proposed
development
and
I
was
hoping
I
wanted
to
try
avoid
saying
this,
but
you
have
to
listen
to
where
your
comments
are
coming
from
a
church
that
is
looking
to
sell
and
a
developer.
That's
looking
to
build
and
neighbors
who
are
going
to
remain
there
and
what
has
been
said
previously
by
the
neighbors
is
absolutely
correct
and
I
endorse
it
wholeheartedly.
AA
So
I
want
to
take
my
time
more
to
talk
about
the
traffic
and,
like
the
commissioner
Alex
said
that
intersection
is
horrible.
In
fact,
I've
been
involved
in
a
taxi
accident
where
my
taxi
I
was
in
was
totaled
and
that's
just
one
people
go
in
all
directions.
They
go
through
the
red
light.
They
don't
turn
left.
They
go
straight
and
it's
just
a
nightmare
at
that
intersection
and
there's
a
good
reason
why
idot
will
not
allow
full
access
on
Gross
Point
Road,
because
they
know
how
bad
that
intersection
is.
AA
Despite
what
you
might
have
heard,
this
development
will
bring
traffic
and
the
stacking
will
not
help
because
cars
have
to
wait.
Only
wait
one
second
or
one
and
a
half
seconds
at
that
light
at
Central.
If
you're
going
east,
so
people
coming
east
on
Central
they'll
go
any
way
they
can
to
get
through
that
intersection
same
with
people
going
West
on
Central.
It
is
a
nightmare
and
we
do
have
people
myself
and
the
people
who
live
there.
We
have
dogs,
we
have
children's,
we
don't
have
a
sidewalk.
AA
AA
Waiting
to
happen
several
times
and
I
also
want
to
mention
too
that,
in
addition
to
living
there
of
the
14
years,
I've
been
at
Evans
in
32
years,
I've
also
served
on
the
planned
commission
I've
served
on
the
on
the
Park,
Board
and
so
I
understand
the
decisions
you
make
are
just
so
important
and
they're
very
thoughtful
I
want
you
to
think
about
the
neighbors
who
are
going
to
be
there.
The
traffic's
there.
AA
AA
It's
a
mishmash
of
driveways,
curb
Cuts,
directional
entrances
and
exits
to
the
to
the
roads,
and
it's
just
going
to
be
a
disaster
and
people
will
cut
through
Central
and
they
will
go
whichever
way
they
want,
and
one
of
the
issues
that
I
think
people
are
going
to
end
up
doing
is
they're
going
to
find
if
they
just
stay
on
Central
Street,
going
east
or
west,
it's
going
to
be
the
easiest
for
them,
as
opposed
to
try
to
go
in
a
certain
direction
that
you're
directed
or
to
go
into
the
parking
lot,
and
we
have
signs
right
there
in
some
areas.
AA
That
say
no
parking,
not
many,
but
we
have
no
enforcement.
We
have
no
traffic
cops
coming
by
no
traffic
enforcement,
so
people
are
going
to
do
what's
easiest
for
them
and
to
say
just
like
was
mentioned
previously.
AA
There's
no
enforcement
and
people
are
not
going
to
be
able
to
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
enforce
something
later
on.
It's
not
done
right
now
so
again.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
letting
me
speak.
T
Yeah,
my
name
is
Terry
Wendt
I'm,
a
professional
urban
planning
and
design
consultant
have
been
for
40
years.
I've
lived
in
Evanston
for
30
years
on
and
off
keep
coming
back
here
after
a
stints
in
Philadelphia
or
or
other
Kansas
City.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
I'm
not
here
to
talk
about
the
traffic,
although
I
have
to
say
what,
however,
this
property
is
developed,
there's
going
to
be
traffic
generated
by
it.
What
is
currently
if
we
can
go
back
to
the
existing
site
plan?
T
No
wonder
the
neighbors
like
it
that
way,
because
the
Tranquility
that
this
this
this
existing
development
creates
quite
a
sense
of
Tranquility
to
the
neighbors
across
Central
and
also
to
the
to
Williamsburg
co-ops,
as
I
said,
I'm
a
private
consultant
and
if
the
co-ops,
if
the
co-op
owners
or
the
neighbors
across
central
were
to
hire
me
I
would
make
a
couple
of
Demands
of
and
I'm
a
member
of
this
church
I
would
make
a
couple
of
Demands
of
the
church
number
one.
T
I
would
insist
that
there
be
a
dedicated
easement
into
this
Co-op
development,
the
current
situation,
where
they
share
a
pay,
a
paved
area
that
doesn't
even
have
curbs
and
consists
of
40
parking
spaces,
I,
actually
I,
think
there's
less
parking
in
the
Kensington
plan
than
there
is
now
and
less
impervious
surface,
plus
a
shorter
building
and
and
less
building
coverage.
The
plan
I
would
have
recommended
to
the
Co-op
owners
is
exactly
the
plan
that
you
see
that
that
Kensington
has
offered
a
dedicated
easement,
a
private
entrance.
T
There
could
be
pylons
on
both
sides,
or
maybe
a
nice
Archway
over
the
entrance
that
says.
Welcome
to
Williamsburg
instead
of
I
mean
if
I
lived
there
I
wouldn't
know
how
to
tell
my
friends
how
to
even
get
to
buy
a
unit
anyway,
that's
and
and
with
regard
to
the
people
across
central
I
yeah.
What
I
would
if
I
were
working
for
them?
I
would
say:
look
at
make
sure
that
this
new
development
has
fewer
headlights
facing
north
across
into
my
property.
Well,
you
can
see
there's
about
12
parking
spaces
facing
north
in
this
plan.
T
There's
six
parking
spaces
facing
north
in
the
new
plan.
This
is
a
better
Frontage
and
is
a
better
physical
neighbor
from
an
Urban
Design
perspective
than
the
existing
layout
of
the
church
and
its
parking,
which,
by
the
way,
is
an
impervious
surface
that
is
environmentally
unsustainable,
since
it's
it's
hardly
ever
used
except
on
Sunday
mornings.
T
A
Thank
you,
Mr
rents,
this
next
name
I
know
I'm
going
to
ruin,
so
I
will
try,
try
Sharma.
A
AB
I'm
Terry
Alba
I
live
adjacent
to
the
property
at
3508,
Central
Street,
so
I'm
the
property
directly
to
the
west
and
I.
Don't
have
a
lot
to
add
to
those
who
have
been
in
favor
of
the
The
Proposal,
but
in
our
house
we
are
in
favor
of
the
proposal.
Everything's
been
said
very
clearly,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
know
that
there
are
other
people
in
the
neighborhood
who
live
there.
AB
That
think
this
is
a
much
better
use
of
the
space
than
a
a
potential
multi-family
unit
dwelling
where
traffic
patterns
are
going
to
increase,
no
matter
what
goes
there.
So
we
do
have
traffic
problems
there,
but
it's
somewhat,
irrespective
of
what
kind
of
development
is
we're
going
to
have
increased
traffic
either
way
so
I'm
in
favor
and
I?
Think
it's
important
that
you
all
know
that.
AC
D
AC
E
AC
A
Just
as
a
second
I'm
going
to
ask,
take
the
handheld
microphone
with
you,
so
you
can
be
heard.
Okay.
AC
So
this
first
spot
there
is
my
parking
place:
okay,
and
that
is
a
white
plank
wall,
allowing
maybe
nine
to
12
feet
for
me
to
back
out.
My
car
is
15
feet,
long
I'm,
just
wondering
in
the
winter,
when
it
snows
and
I.
How
is
a
plow
gonna
ever
help
us
get
out
of
there
get
out
of
these
parking
places?
That's
one
thing.
Secondly,
I
live
right
here.
My
back
porch
faces
his
your,
not
yours,
the
school's
garbage
dump
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
it.
I
know
it's
got
a
white
fence
around
it.
AC
I
saw
your
other
schools
I'm
just
saying
these
are
small
things,
but
they
are
meaningful
to
the
people
in
the
co-op.
Okay,
so
I
think
that
when
you're
asking
for
special
use-
and
you
have
all
these
variances,
his
variance
makes
his
garbage
dump
six
or
four
feet
closer
to
my
back
porch.
Just
saying,
I
want
to
put
it
on
a
personal
level
for
you
guys,
so
maybe
you
can
relate
to
us
better.
Secondly,
I
think
all
easements
are
created
by
necessity.
AC
This
one
happens
to
protect
all
of
our
utilities
so
for
that
disruption,
I
feel
like
I,
don't
know
it's
a
huge
deal
to
us
and,
secondly,
the
Ingress
egress
and
the
way
it
affects
the
neighborhood
and
us
I'm,
not
sure.
If
there
is
a
solution,
so
I'm
not
I,
don't
know
how
to
be
of
help.
Lastly,
the
traffic
situation
I
did
my
own
traffic
study.
When
this
all
came
up
last
summer,
I
emailed
you
guys
a
long
email
with
objections
and
things
about
it.
AC
I
don't
know.
The
unity
statement
is
false,
because
the
two
closest
daycare
Nursery
schools,
The
Goddard
School
and
the
Barbaro
School
both
have
huge
traffic
problems,
Culver's
a
mess
and
girls
Point
Road
the
cars
are
lined
up
in
front
of
the
hospital
entrance
a
couple
times
a
day,
so
you
guys
hopefully
are
driving
around.
You
can
see
this
stuff
happening.
E
AC
A
AC
Counted
cars
personally
sitting
there
so
Northbound
between
6,
30
and
9
30..
We
had
1
286
cars,
two
motorcycles,
nine
buses
and
one
garbage
truck
southbound.
We
had
1142
cars,
12
buses,
two
garbage
trucks
and
two
motorcycles,
I'm
just
saying
it's
anecdotal,
but
then
other
traffic
studies,
inaccurate,
okay-
and
if
you
drive
up
Central
and
you
make
a
left,
you'll
see
how
those
cars
are
flying
and
how
they
have
to
slow
down.
For.
M
AC
That
are
going
to
turn
into
the
Kensington
lot.
Okay,
lastly,
I
know
he's
done
three
iterations,
but
maybe
you
have
to
let
it
go
after
a
while,
because
he's
not
willing
to
make
it
smaller.
Nobody
has
an
objection
to
a
smaller
school
on
that
corner
and
a
lot
of
us
think
a
school
is
not
a
bad
option.
Okay,.
AD
Hi
good
evening
my
name
is
John.
Linder
I
live
actually
right
around
the
corner,
so
I'm
a
Sixth,
Ward
resident
so
I'm
here
tonight
with
I
brought
my
son
drug
him
along.
So
he
could
see
some
Civic
duties
actually
happening.
It's
the
first
time.
I've
done
this,
but
I
thought
it
was
important
for
him
to
see.
Me
speak
up
and
speak
up
for
something
for
something
because
I
think
it's
a
lot
easier,
sometimes
to
speak
to
stuff
against
something
I
get
it
changes.
Hard
and
change
is
difficult.
AD
I
believe
Kensington
School
is
a
positive
addition
to
my
ward
I've,
been
there
for
20
years
and
hope
to
be
there
for
another
20
years
at
3214.
They
are
straight.
Kensington's
got
a
long
history
in
investing
in
the
community.
Staying
in
the
communities
working
with
the
communities,
they're,
not
a
developer,
who
buys
develops
and
then
moves
on
we've
seen
you
know,
Barbara
was
just
mentioned.
Northminster
we've
been
we've
raised,
our
kids
here,
they've
worked
out
the
issues
and
I
believe
Kensington
will
do
that
as
well.
AD
They've
had
those
schools
have
a
positive
impact
on
housing,
quality
of
life
for
families
and
the
future
of
our
kids.
Kensington's
mission
is
a
family-owned
business,
so
that
fits
well
and
Kensington
has
shown
amazing,
grits
and
perseverance
and
they've.
We've
are
lucky
to
have
somebody
who
wants
to
be
in
Evanston
as
a
residence
of
evidence
of
Evanston
I
know
that
we
can
be
vociferous
sometimes
at
Evanston.
AD
Unfortunately,
we
find
that
when
it
comes
to
change,
the
voices
usually
are
out
against
something
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
moving
beyond
the
status
quo,
I
think
is
really
important.
The
committee
you
all
have
such
a
daunting
task
of
balancing
the
quality
of
life,
as
well
as
the
fiscal
responsibility
of
our
city.
It's
really
quite
incredible.
I
urge
the
committee
not
to
be
swayed
by
emotional
appeals
and
unfounded
worries.
AD
A
The
next
speaker,
I,
have
signed
up
is
Gloria
Wagner
all
right.
Thank
you.
A
Mark
Montana
is
passing
as
well.
Laverne,
Johns,
all
right
and
I.
Think
that's
everybody
on
my
list.
Is
there
anybody
who
signed
up
who
didn't
get
to
speak.
A
Oh
I'm,
sorry
I
did
Skip
you.
Yes,
you
are
on
my
list.
AE
No
problem,
my
name
is
Catherine
Mathis
I
have
lived
in
the
Sixth
Ward
at
2758
Lawndale
for
29
years,
and
I
wanted
to
Echo
many
of
the
things
that
John
said.
I
absolutely
support
this
development.
The
thing
for
me
two
main
things
first
is
the
church
has
been
a
part
of
the
community
and
the
church
is
building
community
and
empowering
people
for
our
community,
and
so
the
school
feels
like
a
perfect
Next
Generation
for
that
kind
of
an
activity
in
this
city
versus
a
high
density,
residential
development
or
retail
or
mixed
use.
Something
like
that.
AE
The
school
is
a
continuation
of
that
development
for
our
community
and
we've
heard
from
this
evening
that
Kensington
has
similar
values
to
what
Unity
has
done
in
the
city.
They
have
a
track
record
of
attractive
and
well-maintained
properties
around
the
area
they're
attractive
to
young
families,
and
we
know
that
the
preschools
are
something
needed
in
the
area.
The
metrics
confirm
that
the
traffic
is
manageable
and
that
the
school
could
even
be
a
catalyst
to
improving
property
values
in
the
area.
The
second
thing
that
I
think
is
very
important
is
I.
AE
Think
Chuck
marlus
has
demonstrated
his
desire
to
be
a
part
of
this
community
of
the
Evanston
Community
through
his
patience
and
persistence
and
diligence
in
going
through
this
process.
That
is
the
kind
of
person
that
I
would
like
to
have
as
part
of
our
business
community
and
our
community
at
large,
so
I
I
request
to
approve
this
project.
Thank
you.
A
With
that,
I
have
gone
through
the
list
of
people
who
have
signed
up
to
speak
and
I
will
ask
Mr
marlus
if
he
would
like
to
come
up
if
you'd
like
to
say
anything
in
response
to
those
comments,
if
there's
anything
that
was
raised,
that
you
would
like
to
address-
or
you
can
just
give
us
a
final
summation,
yeah.
H
No
I
I
really
couldn't
add
anything
else
that
we've
already
spoken
to
before
you
know
we
we
all
know
that
there's
a
a
traffic
issue
at
that
at
that
intersection,
but
I
think
someone
wisely
did
say
that
you
know
something
will
be
going
on
in
this
in
this
new
location,
be
it
residential
or
mixed
use
or
Kensington
School.
It
will
impact
traffic
at
that
at
that
site.
You
know
we
hope
to
be
as
Mindful
and
I
think.
H
We've
been
very
thoughtful
about
how
we've
gone
about
addressing
our
plans
and
addressing
our
neighbors
and
addressing
the
community,
and
you
know
just
for
everyone's
edification.
You
know
we
will
be
a
member
of
this
community
for
a
long
time
should
we
be
so
lucky
to
be
at
the
site.
You
know
like
I
mentioned
before
54
year
old,
family
business,
and
you
know
if
they're
fortunate
enough
to
be
here,
we
won't
be
going
away
anytime
soon.
So.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
A
You
Mr
marles
at
this
point
we
will
close
the
public
testimony
and
the
board
will
go
into
deliberation
and
so
I'll
ask
for
General
thoughts
from
commissioners.
N
Okay,
several
things
to
say
one
of
them
is
I
I
personally,
don't
think
the
the
variations
that
they're
asking
for
are
are
that
significant
we've
We've
approved
more
significant
variations
in
the
past.
N
There's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
about
my
comments
last
time
about
the
and
and
this
this
to
end
today
too,
about
the
traffic
in
that
area.
I
think
the
problem
is
not
increased
or
decreased
by
this
development.
I
think
the
problem
is
in
the
in
the
way
the
lights
work
there.
This
is
this
is
beyond
our
scope.
Beyond
this
project,
scope
and
but
I
do
think
that
that
is,
that
is
very
critical
and
I,
think
idot
or
the
city
or
the
state.
N
Whoever
is
responsible
for
these
roads
really
needs
to
look
at
look
at
this
this
intersection
because
it
is
a
cluster.
N
N
Adds
to
adds
to
the
situation
or
makes
the
situation
worse.
I
think
another
thing
to
think
about
is
that
if
you
did
have
a
different
development
of
housing
or
retail,
you
would
have
multiple
multiple
entities
to
deal
with.
In
this
case,
it's
one
manager
there's
a
problem.
You
can
go
to
one
manager
and
he
controls
that
he
or
she
controls
that
whole
site.
I
think
that's
a
I
think
that's
a
big
plus
and
the
neighbor
should
be
comforted
by
that.
N
Let's
see
what
else
can
I
say
here:
oh
the
character
of
the
neighborhood.
This
is
a
little
bit
of
a
tough
one,
because
you
know
I
heard
the
neighborhood
speak
of
about
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
from
their
side
of
it,
which
is
the
the
west,
but
as
I
look
at
this
neighborhood
it's
or
this
site,
it's
it's
actually
on
it's
on
Gross
Point
Road.
That
is
not
a
neighborhood
street.
That
is
a
major
major
Street
in
Evanston
and
I.
N
Think
a
function
like
like
this
proposed
daycare
center
is
is
appropriate
for
that
for
that
that
street
it's
a
commercial
development,
so
that's
all
I
have
to
say.
C
Go
down
the
road
so
so,
first
of
all,
I
understand
the
facility
may
not
benefit
the
neighborhood
itself
on
an
immediate
basis,
but
there
are
some
real
public
benefits
that
come
through
with
it.
It
does
put
a
property
backs
on
the
tax
roll,
which
is
important
and
I,
think
it.
It
offers
a
needed
service
I'm
a
little
disappointed
in
the
architecture
in
that
I.
Don't
think!
That's
really
the
place
for
a
colonial
look.
C
I
think
would
have
been
interesting
to
see
what
you
could
have
done
with
a
more
modern,
contemporary
approach,
but
mostly
I
think
some
of
the
problems
and
the
perception
of
the
problems
is
due
to
the
size
of
the
building,
which,
once
more
just
seems
a
little
too
much
for
the
site.
C
But
having
said
that,
I
think
I
think
this
could
be
a
very
positive
addition
to
the
community
and
to
Evanston
as
a
whole,
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
support
it.
My
concern
as
usual
is
the
traffic
and
I
agree
with
commissioner
Helen,
no
matter
what
goes
there.
C
And
that
may
mean
that
that
be
monitored
by
the
city
as
well,
with
the
neighborhood
that
feedback
from
the
neighbors
do
get
to
the
city
and
and
get
to
the
the
facility
as
well,
because
that
is
a
very,
very
quiet
street
and
as
someone
remarked,
there
are
no
sidewalks,
and
that
is
not
a
place
where
you
want
to
have
more
accidents
and
more
cars
backing
up
into
the
neighborhood.
So
I'd
like
to
see
what
we
can
do
there
to
improve
that
I
think
some
more
work
needs
to
be
done
on
the
traffic.
D
Yes,
I
think
that
this
iteration
is
better
than
the
last.
Obviously
you
know
practically.
D
This
project
cannot
go
forward
as
as
is
without
the
ultimate
agreement
on
our
relocated,
easement,
so
and
I
hope
that
that
can
be
worked
out
between
I
guess,
the
church
and
or
and
the
applicant
and
and
the
co-op
I
would
note
that
you
know
this
proposed
easement
in
in
some
respects
is
better
than
the
1640s
that
exists
now
that,
if
you
know,
if
you
know
considering
putting
in
like
a
you,
know,
cones
or
a
curb
or
something
on
that
16
feet
and
and
reserving
that
for
the
co-op
in
this
case,
there's
a
you
know,
20-foot
drive,
you
know
two-way
drive,
so
I
think
that
that
is
something
that
would
be
more
positive
for
the
the
the
co-op
and
and
frankly,
you
know
that
that's
so
the
the
the
with
Drive
width
on
the
north-south
leg
is
you
know
it's
four
feet
wider,
which
I
think
is
positive.
D
The
you
know
the
easement
that
is
immediately
adjacent
to
the
co-op's
parking
spaces.
Doesn't
change
so
I
think
that
this
plan
is,
you
know,
I'm
supportive
of
this
land
use
in
this
location,
and
you
know
in
the
current
site
design,
but
you
know
again,
you
know
our
our
opinion
isn't
gonna
make
much
difference.
D
You
know,
because,
ultimately,
the
private
parties
need
to
agree.
I.
Think
that
my
concern
is
this
probably
ought
not
to
go
to
the
city
council
until
there
is
some
sort
of
an
easement
agreement,
but
that's
just
my
my
thought.
F
I'm
next
I
think
I
think
the
applicant
has
done
a
lot
of
work
and
has
acted
in
very
good
faith
to
create
the
best
solution
possible
for
a
school
at
this
site.
F
However,
I
I
remain
very
concerned
that
it's
just
not
the
right
site
for
something
like
this,
whether
it's
a
school
or
whether
it's
other
kinds
of
plan,
development,
commercial,
residential,
yes,
anything
would
add
traffic,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
necessarily
that
any
of
those
things
are
a
good
addition
to
this
to
this
site.
F
I
don't
have
much
experience
driving
through
this
intersection,
but
I
have
to,
but
I
have
biked
through
it
and,
despite
that
act
of
Bravery
I
I
do
think
it
it
it's
it's
it's
challenging
and
I
and
I
I
I
I
feel
sueded
by
public
comments
about
the
the
challenge
of
that
intersection,
and
it
seems
it
just
I
mean
just
looking
at
it.
F
It
seems
like
not
the
best
idea
to
put
more
curb
cuts
and
more
traffic,
so
close
to
an
already
problematic
intersection,
which
we
already
understand
so
I
remain
very
concerned
about
that,
and
I
would
also
just
like
to
point
out
that
I'm
hearing,
I
I'm
hearing
almost
overwhelming
public
opposition
to
the
project
and
I
and
I
know
we've
heard
and
I
we've
heard
some
testimony
from
the
public.
That
is
in
support
of
it.
F
O
I
will
start
with
this
I
believe
the
idea
of
putting
school
and
daycare
is
not
bad.
Actually,
it's
it's
a
good
spot
and
it
probably
will
serve
nicely.
The
community
Kensington
is
a
good
name
in
this
business.
I
would
say
this
is
a
good
buyer.
The
things
that
I
I
don't
like
is
and
that's
why
I
asked
the
questions
about
the
capacity
of
the
school
I
think
that
once
again
we're
we
have
a
project
that
is
bigger
in
program
than
what
this
site
can
take.
O
Is
smaller,
smaller
capacity
it
will
resolve.
Many
of
the
problems
include
including
parking
drop-offs
movement
of
people,
cars,
trucks,
garbage
and
all
these
things
will
become
easily
solvable.
So
this
is.
This
is
my
main
concern.
Once
again,
we
have
a
project
that
is
bigger
than
what
this
site
can
take
and
I
will
support
some
of
my
colleagues.
O
The
building
seems
overwhelming
it
may
be
lower
than
the
church,
but
the
church
has
it
Peak
and
other
things.
This
building
is
massive
and,
on
the
other
hand,
just
simply
architecture.
Why
don't
make
something
for
children
if
this
seems
something
that
is
colonial
style
for
civic
center
or
something
like
that,
make
something
for
the
children
that
is.
AB
O
P
I
just
have
a
first
just
a
technical
question.
Obviously
easement
is
critical
here
with
no
easement,
no
no
project
under
a
new
scenario.
So
if,
for
example,
we
were
to
move
forward
with
this
and
one
of
the
conditions
is
that
an
easement
agreement
B
entered
into
how
much
time
the
to
the
parties
have
to
enter
into
the
agreement,
is
there
a
sunset
period
and
they
don't
reach
agreement
within
six
months?
It
comes
back
to
us
or
the
project
is
dead.
It
has
gone
for
years.
M
I
think
that
the
land
use
commission
could
set
that
time
period,
but
I
think
if,
if
you
set
that
time
period
Then,
you
know,
if
one
party
doesn't
want
to
agree,
they
know
they
just
have
to
wait
it
out
that
length
of
period.
M
So
you
know
I,
think
that's
up
to
the
commission
if
they
want
to
set
that
time
period,
but
I
think
ultimately,
if
this
is
approved,
but
then
the
easement
can't
be
agreed
to,
then
the
project
would
have
to
come
back
for
a
different
re,
iteration,
so
I,
and
that
is
a
condition
that
can
be
placed,
but
the
timing
could
either
be
left
in
or
not
I
think
if
staff
can
speak
to
it.
The
approvals
last
for
a
certain
period
of
time
as
well.
Yes,.
I
Well,
I
was
going
to
comment
that
the
staff
is
recommending
that
the
easement
be
both
noted
on
the
plan
prior
going
to
city
council
and
that
a
special
use
in
terms
of
a
plan
development
being
approved
does
have
a
time
limit.
So
if
it
is
approved,
there
is
there's
a
clock
that
ticks
for
them
to
obtain
a
building.
Permit.
A
We
have
we
have
several
clocks
that
tick,
because
we
have
a
90-day
window
from
any
time
that
we
make
a
recommendation
for
city
council
to
act
on
something
and
then
a
special
use,
I
believe
it's
a
year
as
a
year
I'm
getting
shaking
heads
from
staff
so
that
once
the
special
use
is
granted,
there's
a
one-year
window
to
begin
construction
of
the
project.
A
P
The
second
question
I
have
to
you
know:
traffic
is
obviously
a
big
issue.
I
live
a
little
further
east
on
on
Central
and
that
that
intersection
is
I'd,
probably
use
a
stronger
word,
even
than
commissioner
Hallock
has
used.
But
one
of
the
conditions
staff
is
is
is
recommending
is
that
if
it
becomes
a
a
problem
traffic
that
then
the
owner
engage
with
idot
and
work
on
the
lighting,
the
traffic
signaling
Etc,
to
try
to
alleviate
some
of
the
issues?
P
What
if
idot
doesn't
play
ball?
What,
if
that
were
not
to
happen?
What
happens,
then?
Is
the
Practical
matter?
The
projects
going
forward,
it's
being
built
to
schools
there
and
also
in
traffic's
a
problem?
Is
that
condition
a
realistic,
a
realistic
condition
and
what
can
be
done
to
strengthen
the
the
resolution?
Some
of
these
traffic
issues,
particularly
with
respect
to
the
the
traffic
lights
and
all
that
which
are
I
quite
can't
after
Years
of
Living
I,
can't
quite
figure
out
how
that's
all.
A
So,
with
idot
being
a
separate
governmental
agency
over
which
we
have
no
control,
nor
does
the
city
have
any
control,
there's
no
way
that
we
can
make
them
play
ball,
as
you
put
it
on
anything.
So
there
really
is
no
true,
no
teeth
in
that.
A
Such
a
such
a
type
of
recommendation,
I
mean
we
it
could
be
put
in,
but
there's
there's
absolutely
no
enforcement
of
it
because
we
don't
have
the
mechanisms
to
enforce
it,
especially
since
it's
gross
point
the
the
highway
road,
that's
causing
the
idot
thing
or
both
of
these.
I
And
to
clarify
the
the
recommendation
is
that
if
there
is
a
traffic
issue
along
or
on
Central,
that
the
applicant
engages
in
a
in
a
study
with
an
idot,
qualified
or
approved
consultant
to
study
the
timing
and
then
also
restricting
access
onto
Central
during
off-peak
hours.
So
that's
something
the
city
could
control
is
restricting.
P
Because
I
personally
like
to
see
conditions
now
at
this
point
prior
to
getting
the
building
building
perimeter
of
whatever
that
who
tries
to
try
to
maximize
the
ability
to
to
lessen
the
the
traffic
impact,
that's
anticipated
from
this
from
this
project
and
not
leave
it
sort
of
post
when
it
the
trains,
left
the
station
and
there's
nothing.
We
can
do
about
it
so
I'm.
My
specialty
is
not
I
Dot
procedures
and
how
to
do.
But
if
there's
a
way,
we
could
put
a
condition
in.
So
we
move
forward
on
this.
P
X
E
N
But
I'm
I'm
thinking
that
maybe
the
maybe
the
applicant
can
control
the
flow
out
into
these
areas.
N
By
having
someone
stay,
that's
why
I
asked
about
someone
stationed
to
help
with
drop-offs,
but
they
also
could
possibly
control
the
flow
out
into
the
street
if
there's
all
of
a
sudden,
a
lot
of
cars
that
want
to
go
out
and
they'll
know
this
I
think
after
after
a
few
days
of
how
or
weeks,
certainly
of
how
people
are
coming
to
the
site,
but
that
that's
what
I
would
suggest
that
if
there
is
a
flow
on
to
Gross,
Point
or
Central
issue
that
the
applicant
can
control
that
or
at
least
a
question.
P
Fair
enough,
and
then
we
could,
if
we,
but
if
we
were
to
put
that
in
there
then
you're,
really
relying
on
the
applicant
and
the
enforcement
and
all
that
but
I
appreciate,
there's
a
reality
here
with
idot
is
independent,
there's
no
way
to
predict
or
control
what
they
do.
Having
said
all
that,
I
do
think
that
you
know
from
the
neighborhood's
perspective,
if
you
want
the
Tranquility,
you
currently
have
now
you're
really
limited
to
having
the
city
buy
this
and
turn
it
into
a
park.
P
Anything
else
we
we
put
there
and
I
think
you
do
want
development
there.
You
do
want
something
there
is
going
to
result
in
increased
traffic
and
it's
going
to
result
in
some
sort
of
building
that's
different
from
the
church.
That's
that's
there
and
of
the
various
options
that
are
out
there.
I
I
think
that
a
daycare
center
a
school
is
certainly
better
than
some
of
the
other
options
that
are
there,
particularly
since
they're,
really
talking
about
a
limited
window.
P
During
the
day
when
the
traffic
is
going
to
be
there,
it's
not
24
hours,
it's
during
the
weekdays
and
again
in
Limited
hours
with
drips
and
drabs
and
10
minute
intervals.
You
know
five
six
cars,
even
at
a
Max.
It
doesn't
strike
me
as
as
huge
so
I
think
as
a
matter
of
principle,
I'm
I'm
in
favor
of
having
something
like
this
like
the
school
there.
P
The
architecture
I
mean
Beauty's
in
the
eyes
of
the
older
I,
looked
at
it
and
I
thought
this
is
kind
of
kind
of
cool
and
it
looks
great
and
you
know,
building
something
that
the
kids
are
going
to
like
I.
P
Think
it's
really
for
the
for
the
owner
to
the
the
operator
to
figure
out
what
sort
of
building
is
going
to
be
aesthetically
pleasing,
in
my
view,
at
least
to
the
to
the
people
who
are
paying
for
that
for
that
service
and
the
kind
of
building
they
want
to
send
their
kids
to
so
again,
I
didn't
find
the
the
architecture
terribly
I
found
actually
quite
quite
nice.
Certainly
if
you
compare
it
to
the
no
offense
to
the
to
the
Unity
Church,
but
it's
I.
P
No
there's
no
preg
pre-appurrence
agreement
between
us
but
I
I
would
support
this,
and
but
I
would
not
want
it
to
go
to
the
city
council
until
this
easement
issue
is
resolved
and
we've
done
everything
possible
to
to
try
to
anticipated
traffic
issues,
because
there
will
be
obviously
an
increase
in
traffic,
because
cars
will
be
coming
so
I'm
in
favor.
But
before
I
go
to
city
council,
then
we
need
to
have
the
easement
issue
resolved
and
I
practice.
Like
asked
one
last
question,
or
perhaps
you
don't
have
a
view
on
this?
P
M
Unfortunately,
I
haven't
reviewed
the
easement
language
that
is
recorded
and
available
to
the
co-op,
so
I
can't
really
weigh
in
I
think
you
know
there
is
an
easement
by
necessity,
but
It
ultimately
would
be
up
to
a
core
to
interpret
if
it
goes
that
far.
P
And
then,
finally,
on
the
on
the
kids
walking
on
the
street,
and
all
that
that's
I
I
think
is-
is
an
issue
and
I
and
I
how
much
sidewalk
is
being
put
in
now
how
how
much
along
Central
is
it
just
along?
Does
the
sidewalk
sort
of
end,
or
the
last
last
curb
cut,
is
on
the
the
on
the
west
side
of
of
central
there?
How?
How
far
will
that
sidewalk
go
along
Central.
I
P
D
Yes,
I
have
a
kind
of
a
clarification
I'd
like
to
get
from
staff,
with
respect
to
the
the
conditions
that
they're
suggesting
for
for
this
matter,
and
the
first
one
has
to
do
with
the
applicant
entering
into
an
easement
agreement.
You
know
prior
to
the
issuance
of
a
building
permit,
but
then
there's
a
sentence
that
goes.
The
applicant
should
also
revise
the
plan
showing
the
easement
before
this
application
proceeds
to
the
city's
Planning
and
Development
Committee.
Are
you
doesn't
that
drawing
show
the
easement
or
is
there?
I
A
V
A
Cannot
take
any
comments
at
this
point.
The
record
is
closed.
My
general
feelings
on
this
project
I,
like
the
project
I
I,
think
it's
a
smart
use
of
of
redeveloping
an
area.
Obviously,
the
church
has
has
decided
for
whatever
reason
to
move
on,
and
so
this
this
property
does
need
to
be
redeveloped
at
some
point.
A
I
don't
know
that,
there's
a
new
church,
that's
looking
to
buy
a
church
property,
so
it
will
be,
will
be
redeveloped
in
some
way
shape
or
form
at
some
point.
I
in
terms
of
architecture.
I
personally,
like
the
building
I
think
it
looks
academic.
But
that's
you
know
that's
neither
here
nor
there.
A
We
all
have
our
own
personal
tastes
on
on
what
buildings
should
look
like
and
I
think
asking
preschoolers
to
to
help
guide,
building
design,
while
an
interesting
project
would
not
result
any
of
the
ideas
that
would
meet
any
of
our
standards.
A
A
A
I
I
do
like
the
the
idea,
and
it's
again
it's
not
really
our
purview
over
over
easements.
It's
not
something
that
we're
involved
in
that's
a
a
legal
agreement
between
two
parties,
of
which
the
city
is
not
one
I
I
personally,
like
moving
the
one
driveway
all
the
way
to
the
West
I'm,
all
in
favor
of
trying
to
get
as
many
entrances
and
exits
away
from
that
intersection.
As
far
as
we
can,
and
so
so
that's
the
one.
A
The
one
entrance
that
I
really
have
the
problem
with
is
that
easternmost
one
on
Central
and
getting
people
into
that
more
so
than
getting
people
out
of
it?
And
and
what's
going
to
happen
there
I'll
kind
of
reserve
the
rest
of
my
comments,
because
I
do
have
to
go
through
the
standards
and
so
as
I
go
through
those
standards.
I'll
be
making
comments
as
well,
but
does
anybody
have
anything
else
to
add
before
I
go
through
the
standards?
C
Just
one
comment:
the
Latin
School
in
Chicago
is
obviously
a
very
large
facility
in
a
very
intense
and
Rich
residential
area,
but
one
of
the
things
they've
done
is
literally
hire
off-duty
policemen
to
help
monitor
the
traffic
control
it
as
it
releases
as
it
comes
into
the
neighborhood
and
releases
it.
It
seems
to
me
that
that
not
necessarily
hire
an
off-duty
policeman,
but
really
dedicating
staff
and
making
sure
that
the
neighbors
know
who
those
staff
members
are
would
be
something
that
we
could
add
to
the
conditions.
A
All
right,
which
ones
did
we
bring
up
first
special
use
in
order
to
make
a
recommendation
for
approval,
and
we
are
recommending
body
on
this
particular
matter.
There
are
several
standards
of
approval
that
we
must
find
are
met.
If
we
feel
something
is
not
met,
we
can
create
a
condition
in
such
a
way
to
make
it
met
with
that
standard
being
or
with
that
recommendation
being
included
in
the
conditions
that
we
send
forth
to
city
council,
but
I'll
go
ahead
and
start
with
these.
A
The
first
one
is
that
is
one
of
the
special
uses
specifically
listed
in
the
zoning
ordinance
we
do
have.
Oddly,
this
is
an
R2
District,
which
goes
to
show
how
screwed
up
some
of
our
zoning
is
because
this
is
a
a
lot
that
would
be
developed
basically
for
a
two
flat,
which
would
not
be
something
you
would
place
right
along
some
of
our
commercial
roads.
A
So
I'll
just
make
that
comment
to
the
people
who
did
the
plan
in
1993.,
but
we
do
find
that
a
school
and
a
daycare
for
children
is
one
of
the
approved
uses
within
the
R2
District
number
two.
It
is
in
keeping
with
the
purposes
and
policies
of
the
adopted,
comprehensive,
General
plan
and
the
zoning
ordinance
as
amended
from
time
to
time.
Obviously,
one
of
the
things
that
the
comprehensive
plan
does
look
at
is
the
Redevelopment
of
lots.
A
Not
everything
we
have
in
the
city
will
last
forever
things
change
over
time,
I
mean
when
our
last
zoning
code
was
written.
There
was
not
half
the
technology
that
we
have
today,
so
things
are
constantly
adapting,
and
so
we
see
adaptive
reuse.
We
have
a
school
all
right,
I'm.
Sorry,
we
have
a
church
here
that
has
reached
the
end
of
its
time
and
something
new
needs
to
take
that
place,
which
is
what
our
comprehensive
plan
allows
for.
A
Also,
one
of
the
things
that
was
mentioned
was
putting
the
property
back
on
the
tax
rolls
something
that
obviously
we
are
always
looking
to
do
in
order
to
help
generate
additional
tax
income
for
the
City
of
Evanston
I'm
number
three.
It
will
not
cause
a
negative
cumulative
effect
when
its
effect
is
considered
in
conjunction
with
the
cumulative
effect
of
various
special
uses
of
all
types
on
the
immediate
neighborhood
and
the
effect
of
the
proposed
type
of
special
use
upon
the
city
as
a
whole.
A
A
In
my
opinion,
it
will
have
a
will
have
an
impact
on
the
neighborhood.
All
all
development
does
I,
don't
believe
that
it
will
be
horribly
detrimental
to
the
neighborhood
to
have
a
school
being
used
in
this
particular
location.
The
impact
will
be
greater
than
a
church.
Currently
is,
but
it
also
will
not
be
as
great
as
many
other
things
that
would
be
placed
in
this
type
of
a
location
as
I
mentioned.
This
is
an
R2
District,
but
it's
really
a
commercial
and
business
area
and
should
not
be
zoned
R2.
A
In
my
particular
opinion,
number
four:
it
does
not
interfere
with
or
diminish
the
value
of
property
in
the
neighborhood.
This
is
something
we've
had
a
little
bit
of
testimony
about
my
personal
feelings
on.
It
are
obviously
having
something
that
is
in
use
in
the
neighborhood
increases
values,
as
opposed
to
having
a
dare
elect
building
I,
don't
know
what
the
plans
are
with
unity
in
terms
of
at
what
point
they
would
vacate
the
property
and
kind
of
leave
it
sitting
or
what
their
long-term
plan
is.
A
A
We
have
no
reason
to
believe
that
this
wouldn't
be.
We've
heard
some
discussion
about
easements
of
of
sewage
and
water.
That's
really
kind
of
relocating
things,
as
opposed
to
providing
new
service,
so
I
believe
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
six.
It
does
not
cause
undue
traffic
congestion.
I
think
this
is
the
one
that
we've
probably
heard
a
lot
of
testimony
on.
A
In
my
opinion,
as
I've
mentioned
before,
there
will
be
traffic
increases
in
this
neighborhood
by
any
use
that
is
put
there.
I
personally
am
not
satisfied
with
the
traffic
flow
in
and
out
of
the
of
the
place
out
of
the
out
of
the
property.
As
it's
current
delineated
and
I.
Don't
know
what
can
be
done
to
improve
that.
We've
had
discussion
about
idot.
We
all
know
that
we
have
no
control
over
I
dot.
A
There's
been
discussion
about
hiring
people
to
sort
of
get
people
in
and
out.
I
can
understand
that.
But
what
do
you
do
when
that
car
is
turning
across
central
trying
to
come
in
the
wrong
way?
A
You
don't
have
somebody
run
out
and
stop
them
by
throwing
their
body
in
front
of
a
car
which
just
causes
more
problems
for
traffic,
so
this
standard,
I,
don't
believe,
is
met,
but
I
do
know
that
some
of
my
colleagues
feel
that
this
standard
isn't
that,
and
we
will
go
through
that
as
we
move
along
here
number
seven
at
preserves
ignore
can.
N
A
All
right,
thank
you.
It
preserves
significant
historical
and
Architectural
resources.
We've
not
heard
any
testimony.
Obviously
the
fact
that
we're
looking
at
taking
down
a
building-
that's
been
there
for
60
years
somewhere
in
that
neighborhood,
but
that
building
does
not
have,
to
my
knowledge,
any
specific
designation
of
a
historically
significant
building
and
therefore
that
standard
is
met.
Number
eight.
It
preserves
significant
natural
environmental
features.
A
It
complies
with
all
other
applicable
regulations
of
the
district
in
which
it
is
located
and
other
applicable
ordinances,
except
to
the
extent
such
regulations
have
been
modified
through
the
plan,
development
or
the
process,
or
the
grant
of
a
variation
and
looking
at
just
some
of
the
other
areas
of
of
what
types
of
development
allowances
are
being
requested.
A
These
are
things
that
we
typically
Grant
I.
Don't
see
any
reason
to
believe
that
that
there
would
be
any
regulations
that
would
be
not
enforced
because
we
are,
we
are
changing
a
number
of
the
the
issues
through
the
actual
plan
development
process
and
the
special
use
process
to
include
those
areas
where
they
are
not
in
compliance
by
right.
A
I'll
ask
if
everyone
is
in
agreement
with
my
standards.
Knowing
people
are
not
I
would
ask
them
to
identify
which
standards
they
feel
are
are
met
or
are
not
met
in
opposition
to
what
I've
gone
through.
P
I
would
argue
that
the
traffic
one
would
be
met
if
we
were
to
put
in
whatever
conditions
we
can
put
in
given
the
reality,
whether
it
be
whatever
I
think
with
with
putting
in
the
most
conditions
we
can,
that
are
actually
doable.
I
think
we
would
all
right
that
standard
would
be
met
all
right.
Thank
you.
D
You
well
I
was
just
going
to
agree
and-
and
you
know
noting
agreeing
with
commissioner
Hallock,
who
said
you
know
the
traffic
congestion
really
is
there
now
with
respect
to
the
the
more
General
area,
so
I,
don't
think
this
particular
use
is
proposed.
Use
would
cause
undue
traffic
congestion
in
and
of
itself.
C
I,
don't
think
the
use
causes
the
congestion
but
the
scale.
Perhaps
the
scale
of
the
use
begins
to
put
an
undue
burden
with
that
traffic
congestion,
and
that's
why
it's?
You
know
this
is
hard.
We
keep
talking
about
what
conditions
we
could
layer
in
to
resolve
this,
but
the
impact
on
the
neighbors
is
going
to
be
directly
related
to
the
size
of
the
school
and
the
number
of
visits
and
the
drop-offs
and
the
pickups
and
there's
where
it
gets
a
little
troubling.
I
I,
don't
know
if
we
can't
put
conditions
in
I.
A
F
A
I'm
not
hearing
anything
else,
we
do
have
also
a
separate
set
of
standards
and
guidelines
for
plan
developments
in
the
R2
District.
Do
you
have
those
brought
up?
Okay
number
one.
The
requested
site
development
allowances
will
not
have
a
substantial
adverse
impact
on
the
use,
enjoyment
and
property
values
of
adjoining
properties.
In
this
particular
case,
we
are
looking
at
several
different
things
that
are
being
needed
on
the
impervious
surface,
lock
coverage
of
60.5,
where
55
is
permitted.
A
N
A
The
one
that's
Public
Works
said
was
fine
right,
right.
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
which
one
that
was
reduce
the
required
transition
landscape
strip
along
the
west,
rear
property
line
from
10
to
5.6
feet
and
eliminate
the
required
10-foot
transition
landscape
strip
along
the
South
interior
side
property.
So
those
are
the
particular
areas
that
we're
looking
at
and
I
would
say
that
that
this
standard
is
met
and
looking
at
some
of
these,
a
number
of
the
things
are
based
upon
the
uniqueness
of
the
property.
It's
a
triangle-shaped
property.
A
There
aren't
really
true
yards
in
the
way
that
we
traditionally
think
of
a
front
yard
and
a
side
yard
and
a
rear
yard
because
of
the
odd
shape
of
the
property.
So
I
believe
that
that
standard
is
matte.
D
Yeah
may
I
also
say
that
while
the
impervious
surface
lot
coverage
is
higher
than
the
development
allowance,
it's
less
than
exists
at
present.
So
there
is
a
reduction
right.
A
Number
two:
the
proposed
development
is
compatible
with
the
overall
character
of
existing
developments
in
the
immediate
vicinity
of
the
subject
property.
This
is
where
we've
had
a
little
bit
of
testimony
about.
How
does
it
fit
into
things
to
the
west
to
the
east,
to
the
South,
and
this
is
why
I
think
this
property
was
probably
zoned
R2
many
many
years
ago
was
because
they
felt
it
kind
of
tied
into
to
those
sorts
of
things.
A
However,
in
looking
at
the
type
of
building
that's
being
built
and
and
what
it
is
being
used
for
it,
it
doesn't
feel
particularly
out
of
scale.
It
doesn't
feel
like
it's
particularly
out
of
place
in
this
particular
neighborhood,
and
we
do
see
schools
like
this
in
residential
districts
all
the
time
so
actually
by
having
it
in
a
residential
district
that
is
actually
more
business,
Commercial
I
think
it
actually
is,
is
a
better
situation
than
than
otherwise
it
could
be
number
three.
A
This
particular
standard
again
is
one
that
I'm
kind
of
hung
up
on
I
know
some
of
my
fellow
Commissioners
have
mentioned.
You
know
that
this
particular
use
in
this
particular
site
isn't
in
and
of
itself
causing
undue
traffic
congestion
or
potential
hazards.
I
believe
that
when
you're
placing
it
next
to
an
already
hazardous
intersection,
it
compounds
those
and
so
I
believe
standard.
Three
has
not
met
on
that
particular
location.
A
Although
I'm
sure
Commissioners
disagree
with
me
number
four,
the
proposed
development
aligns
with
current
and
future
climate
and
sustainability
goals
of
the
city.
We've
not
really
had
testimony
to
this,
but
the
fact
that
we
are
seeing
a
reduction
in
in
impervious
surface,
even
though
we
are
still
over
and
the
fact
that
we
are
trying
to
save
trees.
The
fact
that
we
are
trying
to
create
Green
Space
as
much
as
we
can
and
the
fact
that
any
development
here
they
would
still
be
under
lead
certification
under
under
our
building
guidelines.
A
A
Obviously
this
is
something
that's
a
little
bit
different
from
plan
development
to
plan
development.
When
we're
looking
at
a
plan
development
that
is
a
school
providing
daycare,
that's
obviously
has
a
public
benefit
in
and
of
itself.
A
A
Those
are
things
that
we
would
expect
to
see
here
and
again.
The
public
benefits
is
something
we
kind
of
recommend
out
to
city
council.
That
city
council
really
gets
to
decide
what
the
public
benefits
are.
Excuse.
N
Me
can
I
ask
the
chair
a
question
about
number
three:
is
there,
is
there
a
plan
in
terms
of
site,
circulation
and
access
that
you
think
would
solve
that
would
make
that
acceptable?
There.
A
N
N
E
N
And
I'm
doing
this
during
peak
times,
it's
just
I'm
asking
you
you're
saying:
well,
no,
this
doesn't
work
well.
What
does
work
in
your
opinion
and
I
I,
don't
I,
think
and
and
the
reason
why
I'm
saying
this
is
because
I
think
that
the
applicant
I
was
not
happy
with
the
other
plan
right.
The
previous
plan,
but
I
think
that
what
they've
done
to
this
plan
is
probably
the
best
situation
that
they
can
have,
given
all
all
the
issues,
including
the
neighborhood
that
doesn't
want
cars
going
going
west.
A
A
We
we
look
at
projects
as
they
are
proposed
to
us
and
I've
sat
on
this
Commission
on
this
commission
for
a
short
period
of
time,
because
we've
only
been
organized
but
I've
sat
on
the
on
these
commissions
for
a
long
time
and
I've
seen
people
try
to
redevelop
and
redesign
entire
projects,
and
that's
not
something
that,
in
my
opinion,
this
board
or
this
commission
should
be
doing.
The
applicant
is
charged
with
presenting
us
with
their
best
plan,
and
then
we
decide
whether
or
not
we
feel
it
meets
the
standards.
A
Any
other
comments
again
going
through
those
I
know.
There
were
some
people
who
would
disagree
with
me
on
number
three
yeah.
D
I
think
I'm
I'm,
one
of
them,
because
I
think
that
the
the
left
allowing
the
left
turn
from
Central
onto
the
site
is
much
better
than
one
of
the
potential
Alternatives
is,
is
people
you
know
coming
up?
Was
it
Princeton
or
Greely
and
then,
and
so
they
can
make
a
right
turn
into
the
site
as
you're
proposing
and
I
think
that
that
that
creates
much
more
traffic
through
the
neighborhood
than
allowing
the
left
turn
so
I
I
think
that
the
current
solution
or
the
current
proposal
is
better
than
right
in
right
out.
A
We
have
to
go
through
this
specific
section,
I'm
asking
staff
do
I,
have
to
go
through
the
specific
to
section
68110
and
if
I
do,
how
do
I
stop
having
to
do
that,
because
these
aren't
really
standards?
These
are
just
ideas.
A
Just
note
that,
for
the
record,
there
are
some
specific
things
that
deal
with
General
planning
ideas,
but
they
aren't
really
standards
that
we
can
find
are
met
or
are
not
met.
A
They
just
ask
us
to
to
keep
in
mind
certain
things
about
land
use,
land,
use,
intensity,
housing,
preservation,
environmental
traffic
impact
and
parking,
but
a
lot
of
those
things
are
covered
in
the
standards
that
we
do
go
through,
so
we've
gone
through
the
standards
are
there.
There
are
some
conditions,
recommendations
that
City
staff
has
put
together,
which
are
on
page
15
of
the
staff
memo
which
are
the
applicant
Co-op
enter
into
an
easement
agreement
providing
access.
A
My
personal
feelings
again
are
that
we
really
should
not
be
weighing
in
on
an
easement
in
any
way
shape
or
form.
That
is
a
legal
agreement
between
two
parties
and
we
are
not
one
of
the
parties
when
I
say
we
I
mean
the
city,
so
that's
something
that
really
needs
to
be
coordinated
between
the
applicant,
the
current
property
owner
and
the
party
that
has
the
easement,
which
is
which
is
first
Williamsburg.
A
P
I
think
you're
right:
it's
not
our
business
to
get
into
the
negotiations.
It's
the
agreement
between
two
people,
but
we
are
setting
the
condition
if
we
were
to
set
a
condition
at
the
easement
agreement,
be
agree
we
can
indicate
by
which
time
it's
you
right
now
it's
by
issuance
of
the
building
permit
and
we
could
accelerate
to
say
before
it
goes
to
city
council,
because
we're
already
asking
that
the
plan
showing
the
easement
go
to
the
planning
involvement
committee.
P
M
Chair
Rogers
is
my
understanding
that,
in
order
to
obtain
a
building
permit,
they
would
have
to
have
an
easement
agreement
anyway,
so
it
will
be
a
requirement
for
the
building
permit.
M
A
Okay,
does
that
help
satisfy
your
commissioner
number
two
provide
a
permit
from
idot
for
any
work
with
the
Gross
Point
Road
right
of
way,
I'm
fine
with
that
provide
a
revised
photometric
plan,
showing
light
levels
measured
to
the
property
line.
A
maximum
of
zero
lumens
is
permitted
at
the
property
line.
A
We've
not
really
heard
any
testimony
on
this
is
this
a
standard.
This
is
the
thing
that
we
we
do
with
parking
lots,
I.
I
A
Right,
so
that's
just
the
clarification
all
right
number.
Four:
as
operations
begin,
if
traffic
added
by
the
daycare
center
becomes
an
issue
on
Central
Street,
the
right
out
only
turn
on
Central
Street
will
be
restricted
to
outside
Peach
traffic
hours.
If
this
is
unsuccessful
in
resolving
traffic
issues,
the
owner
will
be
required
to
engage
in
idot
pre-qualified
scat
consultant
to
complete
an
analysis
to
retime
the
traffic
signals.
A
Again,
we've
had
a
little
bit
of
testimony
or
I
guess
not
testimony,
but
discussion
among
ourselves
about.
We
really
can't
do
much
with
idot.
We
can
ask
for
a
study,
but
I,
don't
know
that
we
can
really
require
much
beyond
that.
A
I'm,
fine
leaving
that
one
in
again
the
city
does
have
the
ability
to
control
the
access
points
and
things
like
that.
So
that's
fine
staff
are
not
allowed
to
park
in
the
neighborhood.
That's
something
that
we
traditionally
put
in
with
any
sort
of
a
special
use
comply
with
the
tree
preservation,
ordinance
city
code,
section
788,
which
kind
of
addresses
a
number
of
the
Landscaping
issues,
coordinate
maintenance
of
existing
trees
along
the
west
property
line,
with
the
property
to
the
West,
make
reasonable
efforts
to
hire
local
contractors
to
do
work
to
construct
the
child.
A
They
are
the
child
care
center
and
make
reasonable
efforts
to
hire
Evanston
residents
to
work
at
the
child
care
center.
Are
there
other
conditions
that
people
would
like
to
see
added
into
any
recommendation.
A
A
C
N
Think
it
should
be
added
I
I
made
that
point
also
I
I
think
that
this
is
something
that
again
single
management
of
the
site.
This
is
something
that
they
want
to
do.
They
want
to
make
the
neighbor
they
live
in
the
neighborhood.
They
want
to
make
the
neighborhood
happy.
This
is
something
that
probably
would
do,
but
to
encourage
it
or
to
say
what
what
what
side
of
this
we're
on
I
think
we
should
keep
it
in.
So.
A
N
N
C
A
A
Anything
else,
any
other
conditions
anybody
feels
should
should
not
be
included.
If
not
I
will
ask
if
there
is
a
motion
for
a
recommendation
to
city
council
for
3434,
Central,
Street,
22plmd0012,.
D
It's
been
a
while
I
move
approval
of
recommendation.
D
Oh
I
I
move
that
we
make
a
positive
recommendation
to
approve
plan
development,
22,
plnd-0012,
3434,
Central,
Street,
Kensington,
School
to
the
forward
a
positive
recommendation
to
the
city
council
for
the
requested
special
use
plan,
development
and
site
development
allowances,
subject
to
the
following
conditions:
one
that
the
applicant
shall
Monitor
and
control
the
flow
of
traffic
in
and
out
of
the
parking
lot
during
Peak
periods
to
provide
a
permit
from
idot
for
any
work
within
the
Gross
Point
Road
right-of-way
three
provides
provide
a
revised
photometric
plan
showing
light
levels
measured
to
the
property
line.
D
A
maximum
of
zero
lumens
is
permitted
at
the
property
line.
Four
after
operations
begin.
If
traffic
added
by
the
day
care
center
becomes
an
issue
on
Central
Street,
the
right
out
only
turn
onto
Central
Street
will
be
restricted
to
outside
Peak
traffic
hours.
If
this
is
unsuccessful
in
resolving
traffic
issues,
the
owner
will
be
required
to
engage
in
idot
prequel
fight,
scat
consultant
to
complete
an
analysis
to
retime
the
traffic
signals.
D
Five
staff
are
not
allowed
to
park
in
the
neighborhood
six
comply
with
the
tree
preservation,
ordinance
city
code,
section,
7-8-8,
seven,
coordinate
maintenance
of
existing
trees
along
the
rest
property
line
with
a
property
to
the
West.
Eight
make
reasonable
efforts
to
hire
local
contractors
to
do
work
to
construct
this
child
care
center
and
nine
make
reasonable
efforts
to
hire
Evanston
residents
to
work
at
this
child
care
center.
Is
that.
A
D
A
So,
by
a
vote
of
three
to
four,
the
motion
does
not
pass
the
way
it
works
is
it
will
still
move
on
to
city
council.
They
will
just
have
a
recommendation
from
this
body
that
we
do
not
do
not
feel
that
the
standards
have
been
met
and
they
will
then
be
able
to
make
any
determination
that
they
need
they
can
either
support
our
decision
override
our
decision.
They
can
totally
look
at
it
can.
N
I
ask
a
question
about
that
and
I
I
could
have
dreamed
this
or
I.
Could
I
could
have
read
it
that
when
there
is
a
well
either
a
tie,
vote
or
not
a
recommendation,
positive
recommendation
of
the
council?
They
don't
get
our
clarifications.
N
A
And
everything
so
I
mean
whether
they,
whether
they
decide
that
we
want
to
look
at
those
conditions
or
not,
isn't
really
incumbent
upon
whether
we
give
a
positive
or
negative
recommendation.
Okay,
they
can.
They
can
put
whatever
conditions.
Okay
like
and
and
Miss
Williams
looks
like
she's
going
to
say
something
I.
AF
I
just
wanted
to
speak
to
your
question
specifically.
If
there
is
a
tie
of
the
commission,
the
the
recommendation
goes
without
conditions
unless
the
land
use
commission
wants
to
contemplate
conditions.
So,
as
a
related
to
the
margarita
Inn
recently
there
was
a
tie
vote.
AF
The
commission
did
not
re-contemplate
the
conditions
that
were
previously
discussed
on
November
30th,
so
we
did
forward.
As
chair
Rogers
mentioned
your
previous
conditions
that
were
contemplated
on
November
30th,
but
the
ordinance
did
not
include
the
conditions
that
were
previously
recommended
because
of
the
Thai
vote.
N
M
Not
sure
what
the
current
practice
is
but
I
think
regardless
city
council
has
access
to
those
conditions
and,
as
you
saw
this
previous
Monday,
they
do
if
they
move
to
approve,
add
those
conditions
back
in
that's
been
the
practice.
A
A
Is
there
anybody
who
would
like
to
speak
to
the
board
as
a
whole?
Yes,
sir,
and
you
have
three
minutes.
V
Just
to
address
commissioner
Hugo's
question,
there
was
a
written
comment
submitted
by
Peter
ruten,
who
spoke
earlier
today,
indicating
that
legal
counsel
has
been
retained
and
a
survey
was
conducted
and
the
easement
was
validated
by
Chicago
Title
decades
ago
and
then
recently
updated
to
validate
that
prior
validation,
and
this
is
all
in
a
letter
there's
an
email
chain
with
Mr
Griffith
and
Mr
Rutan
of
the
and
I
believe
several
City
staff
and
Alder
and
suffered
another.
So
answer
your
question,
the
answer
is:
yes,
we
have
an
attorney's
opinion.
V
We
have
several
other
people's
opinion
real
quickly,
chair,
Rogers
easements
are
not
agreements
between
parties
and
99
of
the
time.
Usually
they're
disputes
easements
arise
by
operation
of
Law
and
are
recognized
by
courts
pursuant
to
Equitable
doctrines
and
they're.
Not
private
agreements
in
99.9
of
the
time
and
just
I
know
we're
past
time,
but
I
just
want
to
say
the
the
indication
of
the
housing
going
up
is
simply
false.
I
just
was
looking
at
my
phone.
V
A
You
I'm
sorry
I
skipped
over
communication
from
staff
to
staff
have
any
communication.
They
would
like
to
advance
to
us
any
questions
from
Commissioners
to
staff.