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From YouTube: City Council Meeting - 11/16/09
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Special City Council Meeting
Monday, November 16, 2009
7:00 p.m.
Council Chambers
Lorraine H. Morton Civic Center
2100 Ridge Avenue
Evanston, IL
ORDER OF BUSINESS
1) Roll Call
2) Public Comment
3) Goal Discussion: Climate Action Plan
4) Goal Discussion: Lakefront Development
5) Goal Discussion: Robert Crown Center Improvements
6) Adjournment
D
D
Before
public
comments,
I
have
one
announcement
to
make
on
december
3rd,
there
will
be
a
very
important
meeting
from
6
to
8
30
at
the
fleetwood
jourdain
community
center.
The
cta
has
called
the
meeting
to
discuss
much
needed
improvements
on
the
purple
line,
and
it
will
be
very
helpful
if
everyone
in
evanston
shows
up.
Thank
you
now
we'll
have
public
comments,
I'm
going
to
name
four
speakers
and
hopefully
you'll
come
up
and
speak
one
after
the
other
mark
metz
john
henderson,
elliott,
zation
and
lynn
ramo.
E
E
And
once
you
take
that
leadership
position,
I
think
there's
some
real
interesting
possibilities
for
private
funding
and
philanthropy
and
some
different
aspects
of
it.
That
can
benefit
the
city
and
residents
a
great
deal.
So
we
believe
what
you
need
to
do
tonight
is
is
move
forward
with
a
move,
the
project
forward
and
put
out
a
request
for
information
qualifications
to
to
start
giving
shape
to
this
whole
concept
of
how
this
multiple-like
funding
might
work.
E
F
Hi
I'm
katie
stalcup.
I
live
at
144
greenwood
street,
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
lakefront
plan
that
citizens
of
evanston
developed
over
an
extended
period
of
time.
I
think,
almost
a
year,
maybe
more
than
a
year,
was
spent
with
extensive
discussions
involving
people
from
around
the
city,
not
just
people
that
live
close
to
the
lakefront.
F
I
should
say
that
and
a
sizable
amount
of
city
funding
went
in
to
pay
for
the
consultants
that
ran
these
very
impressive
and
large
meetings,
and
the
overwhelming
take-home
message
from
the
lakefront
plan
was
that
citizens
of
evanston
wanted
to
keep
the
lakefront
open,
green
and
free
to
the
nth
degree
possible
free
from
commercial
development.
That
was
the
overwhelming
take-home
message.
F
The
the
city
council
approved
and
adopted
the
lakefront
plan
within
recent
memory,
and
I'm
very
surprised
that
suddenly
lakefront
development
is
back
on
the
docket.
I
hope
that
the
council
pays
great
attention
to
the
adopted
lakefront
plan
and
honors
the
input
of
the
consultants
and
the
citizens
of
evanston
from
across
the
city.
F
Now
this
parking
ban
came
into
being
before
I
moved
to
evanston,
I
believe
in
1991,
but
I
think
it
was
put
into
place
because
there
was
substantial
problems
along
the
lakefront
with
drug
dealing
with
a
rowdy
gangs
of
people
with
unsavory
activities.
That's
not
a
problem
now
and
I
don't
really
see
an
overriding
positive
for
changing
the
parking
situation
that
might
might
override
the
potential
negatives
negatives
that
did
exist
in
the
past
thanks.
Thank
you.
D
G
G
What
I
have
to
say
tonight
is
very
general,
but
I
think
it's
very
important
to
reaffirm
the
role
of
citizens
for
greener
evanston
in
its
attempt
to
continue
collaborating
with
the
city
on
the
evanson
climate
action
plan.
We
were
pleased
to
learn
that
the
city
has
reduced
its
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
G
We
were
not
surprised
that
the
community
has
not
done
so
that
the
no
the
amount
is
increasing
we're,
but
we're
dismayed
about
that
and
we
realize,
when
we
worked
on
the
plan
with
city
staff,
that
the
most
difficult
part
of
this
plan
would
be
to
engage
the
entire
community
residents,
businesses,
communal
organizations
of
all
kinds
that
unless
we
could
engage
the
very
broad
constituencies
of
the
community,
the
goal
of
the
red,
the
13
goal,
would
would
never
be
achieved
with
it.
Certainly
within
the
time
frame
that
we
had
set
2012..
G
Now
we
reorganized
ourselves
after
the
plan
was
finished
and
the
city
adopted
it
and
we
put
a
great
deal
of
emphasis
on
outreach.
We've
set
up
outreach
task
forces
that
deal
with
businesses
with
arts
and
culture,
with
non-profit
organizations
with
religious
organizations
and
with
residents
where
they
live,
and-
and
we
realized
that
unless
we
could
reorganize
ourselves
in
this
fashion,
we
would
not
achieve
that
kind
of
outreach.
We
also
still
have
several
of
our
substantive
task
forces
still
working
on
issues.
G
We
have
waste
and
recycling,
we
have
renewable
energy,
we
have
energy
efficiency
and
we
have
water
and
natural
resources.
So
the
task
force,
some
of
the
task
forces
that
were
most
active
in
producing
the
recommendations
in
the
ecap
are
still
working.
Now.
This
has
been
a
pretty
major
effort
on
the
part
of
volunteers.
It's
an
all
volunteer
effort
and
what
we
want
now
to
do
is
re-engage
with
the
city.
G
We
really
need
to
have
regular
contact
with
city
staff.
We
had
people
from
city
staff
working
with
our
task
forces.
We
had
people
who
advised
us
who
we
could
call
when
we
had
questions
we
needed
answered,
we
we
knew
who
to
go
to
now.
We
don't
without
in
any
way
trying
to
criticize
carolyn's
effort,
because
I
think
it's
been
fantastic,
we
don't.
We
haven't
had
the
contact
with
her
office
and
with
her
we
don't
have
a
representative
of
the
city
at
our
meetings
and
and
this
has
been
a
loss.
G
The
city
has
we're
not
coming
here
to
ask
for
resources,
but
we
want
to
have
this
kind
of
integration
with
with
both
the
council
but,
more
importantly,
with
city
staff,
so
that
we
can
help
work
on
the
problems
and
I'll
just
give
one
example:
one
of
the
big
issues
is:
how
do
you
prioritize
the
various
recommendations
in
the
plan?
We
would
like
to
be
part
of
that.
G
H
H
We
have
that
will
only
be
compromised
by
commercial
development
and
the
parking
ban
is
something
I'm
very
concerned
about,
because
I
see
the
expense
that
chicago
puts
in
with
their
police
and
the
monitoring
of
their
lakefront
and
what
goes
on
at
that
lakefront
having
been
at
that
lakefront
at
night,
and
I
do
not
want
that
replicated
in
episode
just
as
a
personal
matter.
That
is
just
so
very
important.
I
First,
let
me
say
I
I
want
to
speak
with
respect
to
lakefront
development
of
the
master
plan
and,
first
let
me
say
that
I
welcome
people
coming
to
the
lake
lots
of
people
from
lots
of
places
it's
great
fun,
to
watch
on
sunday
afternoons.
We
live
a
block
from
the
light
to
watch
cars,
unloading
families,
a
lot
of
people
enjoy
the
lake,
a
lot
of
different
languages
being
spoken
and
so
forth.
I
think
that
that
access
we
ought
to
encourage
that
type
of
access.
I
Secondly,
I
think
we
need
to
take
steps
in
implementing
the
master
plan
that
preserve
the
enjoyable
experience
for
everyone
now
and
for
decades
and
without
commenting
on
specific
activities.
What
I've
given
you
here
are
just
three:
what
I'd
call
three
guiding
principles
that
I
think
are
useful.
In
fact,
I
think
they're
important
in
implementing
the
general
principles
of
the
of
the
master
plan
and
preserving
the
kind
of
open
space
that
was
referred
to
earlier
is
referred
to
in
the
master
plan.
I
One
is
that
there
should
be
a
presumption
against
additional
structures,
structures,
alter
open
space
structures,
block
views,
and
by
this
I
want
to
make
clear
I'm
not
talking
about
views
of
homes
in
the
neighborhood.
I
don't
care
about
those
they
can
go
to
their
second
floors
if
they
want
to
see
the
lake
I'm
talking
about
views
of
people
on
the
ground
in
the
lakefront
parks.
One
of
the
problems
we
have
and
it's
necessary
is
that
the
rip-rap
along
the
lake
blocks
views
of
children.
I
Noise,
creating
activity
should
be
minimized
and
some
should
be
prohibited
entirely.
The
lakefront
master
plan
says
that
the
additional
use
of
one
would
be
to
consider
additional
restrictions
on
boats
and
motorized
boats.
I
think,
in
addition,
certain
activities
for
watercraft
and
for
land
vehicles
such
as
jet
skis
and
parasail
boats
that
create
a
lot
of
noise
that
create
minimum
enjoyment
for
a
few
people
and
maximum
discomfort.
Annoyance
for
a
lot
of
people
should
be
prohibited.
I
I
Many
of
the
commercial
activities
that
are
proposed
in
the
staff
proposals,
for
example,
would
provide
inconsequential
income
to
the
city,
but
they
also
many
of
them
would
be
matters
that
don't
cause
permanent,
inflict
permanent
damage
and
so
forth,
like
increasing
art,
fairs
and
so
forth.
Something
that
goes
up
with
tents
and
comes
down
with
tents
is,
in
my
view,
not
a
serious
problem,
but
others
that
are
touted
as
income
producing
or
revenue
producing
means
one.
I
So
these
are
offered
as
three
guidelines
that
are
specific
in
terms
of
evaluating
activities.
People
want
to
conduct
there.
I
just
conclude
by
saying
that
the
lakefront
master
plan
warned
that
our
lakefront
parks
are
being
quote
loved
to
death.
I
think
we
should
love
them
more,
but
we
should
do
it
in
ways
that
don't
kill
them
faster.
Thank
you.
J
J
The
community
went
through
a
very
lengthy
and
expensive
process
to
determine
the
future
of
the
lakefront
views
from
staff.
The
business
community
and
residents
were
heard
and
melded
together
to
form
the
evanston
lakefront
master
plan,
having
attended
all
the
public
meetings,
I
can
assure
you
that
the
overriding
sense
of
the
community
was
to
keep
the
lakefront
non-commercial,
natural
and
passive.
J
That
sense
is
enunciated
in
goal.
Five
of
the
plan
which
states
an
english
teacher
would
have
a
a
real
field
day
with
this
sort
of
sentence
emphasize
a
balance
between
natural,
unproven
unprogrammed
lakefront,
with
a
variety
of
lakefront,
appropriate
activity,
programming
to
engage
all
users
and
generate
limited
revenue,
while
honoring
the
lakefront's
environmental
integrity
and
surrounding
neighborhoods.
J
J
John
muir
said
there
must
be
places
for
human
beings
to
satisfy
their
souls.
This
is
what
individuals
like
burnham
and
other
visionaries
who
planned
parks
and
green
spaces
for
our
cities,
knew
they
understood
the
importance
of
beauty
and
of
nature
and
understood
their
special
value
in
urban
environments.
J
K
The
city's
recent
approval
of
the
green
building
ordinance
demonstrated
that
the
city
was
willing
to
take
a
stand
as
a
not
so
new
addition
to
the
green
movement
and
a
member
of
the
cge
steering
committee
and
a
member
of
the
business
community
for
many
years.
I
believe
that
we
all
must
begin
to
view
the
environment,
movement
and
economic
development
as
two
entities
that
must
be
joined
at
the
hip.
K
K
K
K
If
you
look
through
newspapers,
magazines,
advertising,
publications,
almost
every
product
is
trying
to
take
advantage
of
green
this
or
that
most,
if
not
all
fortune,
500
companies
have
sustainability
efforts.
Even
evanston
has
a
state,
a
sustainability
member
staff.
Member
with
all
of
this
momentum
on
our
side,
you
must
help
you
must
help
educate
our
residents
and
businesses
to
realize
that
the
perception
that
environmental
efforts
hurt
economic
development
is
just
wrong.
K
The
new
paradigm
is
that
the
nation
and
the
economy
can
and
will
green
itself
out
of
the
current
economic
recession
and
green
technology
or
environmental
concerns
will
not
prolong
that
it
only
provides
more
opportunities
for
growth.
Evanston
can
and
should,
put
itself
in
a
position
to
capitalize
on
this.
K
L
L
Basically,
I
was
look
I'm
gonna
on
the
climate
action
plan.
The
city
is
only
two
percent
of
the
emissions
here
that
the
city's
leading
this
effort.
What
interests
me
there's
a
grant
in
here
for
750
000,
and
I
want
to
know
if
that's
going,
to
really
be
covering
the
salary
of
the
sustainability
coordinator
in
the
2010
and
2011
budget.
L
If
not,
then
where's
the
funding
for
this
position,
because
that
was
supposed
to
be
had
from
grants
and
I'm
not
trying
to
pick
on
this
one
position,
because
I
think
everybody
on
this
council
knows
we're
talking
between
30
40
50
employees
are
possibly
going
to
be.
Let
go
here
while
that's
not
been
said,
it's
being
discussed,
I'm
going
to
go
on
now
to
the
lakefront
one
of
the
issues
I
have
there
is
over
the
years.
This
council
has
given
many
people
in
this
community.
L
L
So
these
are
the
kind
of
problems
of
the
fiscal
responsibility
on
robert
crown.
Robert
crown
would
take
the
in
these
plans
here
that
you're
talking
about
if
you've
got
that
building
you're,
it's
probably
going
to
carry
out
1.5
million
dollars
a
year
and
add
it
to
the
budget,
just
to
borrow
the
money.
If
you
go
with
these
big
plans
in
here,
it's
going
to
be
3
million.
L
You
don't
have
that
money,
and
you
know
you
don't
have
that
money
and
if
the
thing
I
saw
in
there
if
the
roof
is
starting
to
fail,
you
better
fix
the
roof,
because
it's
going
to
cost
as
much
as
more
money.
Just
like
the
civic
center,
I
mean
I
walked
in
some
offices
here
and
you
had
holes
in
the
wall
from
all
the
leaks,
so
you've
got
to
fix
things
that
are
there
and
if
there's
structural
problems
in
that
building,
because
you
keep
saying
that,
then
you
better
fix
those.
L
But
I
don't
believe
that,
because
none
of
some
of
the
reports
never
said
that,
I
think
that's
been
the
thing
here
that
some
people
want
to
basically
just
get
a
new
building,
and
I
I
find
that
I
think,
as
I
looked
at
this,
I
wondered
why
we
have
double
the
staff
at
robert
crown.
We
have
staff
for
the
ice
rink,
we
have
staff
the
runs
the
wreck
program.
It
looks
to
me
like
some
of
those
programs.
L
There
should
be
shut
down,
moved
away
and
the
facility
would
have
more
room
and
then
you
could
probably
alleviate
some
of
your
problems
and
I
finally
have
a
few
more
points.
I
found
something
very
troubling
in
this
report
somewhere
someone.
There
was
a
claim
in
this
report
they're
carrying
a
hundred
and
thirty
four
thousand
dollars
in
capital
funds
from
2003..
L
To
me,
that's
fiscally
irresponsible
to
hold
money
that
much
of
the
city's
money
and
have
fun
somewhere
for
waiting
for
projects
seven
years
later
and
and
that
was
supposed
to
be
used
for
future
record.
You
know
more
more
plans
here
and
I
and
the
recommendations
I
saw
there
are
more
consultant
reports
that
don't
really
do
anything
but
more
of
this
planning.
That
does
nothing.
So
we
don't
have
the
money
here,
as
you
all
know,
at
least
some
of
you
know.
I
know
you
know
wally.
So
thank
you.
D
M
Yes,
madam
mayor
members
of
the
council
good
evening,
as
you
have
mentioned,
we
have
three
goals
to
talk
about
this
evening.
We'll
start
first,
with
the
climate
action
plan,
carolyn
colopie,
our
sustainability
coordinator,
is
back
with
us
after
her
maternity
leave,
we're
very
happy
to
have
her
back.
As
I
mentioned
with
my
90-day
report,
I
have
reassigned
ms
kalapie
from
the
public
works
department
to
my
office
in
order
to
provide
a
greater
focus
and
attention
on
issues
associated
with
sustainability
and
the
implementation
of
the
climate
action
plan.
N
N
It
was
a
year
ago,
this
november,
that
council
accepted
the
evanston
climate
action
plan
and
tonight
I'm
going
to
give
you
an
update
on
the
past
year
and
I'm
going
to
start
with
a
brief
overview
of
the
plan
more
so
our
missions
before
we
put
together
the
evanston
climate
action
plan.
We
did
a
community-wide
greenhouse
gas
emissions
inventory
and
this
is
what
it
looked
like.
We
started
with
2005
as
our
baseline
year.
We
didn't
have
any
data
going
any
farther
back
than
that
and
our
greenhouse
gas
emissions
are
a
reflection
of
our
energy
use.
N
So
we
projected
what
those
2012
emissions
were
going
to
be
and
what
we
came
up
with
was
a
13
reduction
from
those
2012
emissions
to
get
to
that
seven
percent
of
our
1990
emissions
and
that's
roughly
about
140
000
metric
tons
of
co2.
You
may
notice
that
this
this
number
is
a
little
bit
different
than
what
you'll
see
in
the
climate
action
plan.
That's
because
our
emissions
factor
for
electricity
for
our
region
has
changed
slightly.
N
N
There
were
some
difficulties
in
collecting
and
collecting
that
data,
so
it's
probably
actually
a
lot
larger
than
that
more
between
20
and
30
percent,
but
this
is
the
data
that
we
have
and
it's
consistent
and
with
the
limitations.
This
is
what
we
have
to
work
with
for
the
the
coming
years
and
the
one
percent
is
our
our
waste.
We
look
at
waste
because
there
are
emissions
tied
to
disposal,
but
we
also
get
a
substantial
credit.
The
more
we
recycle.
N
So
I've
now
collected
all
of
the
data
through
2008
to
update
our
missions,
I'm
working
on
a
report
that
will
go
through
all
of
the
climate
action
plan
strategies
there's
over
200
and
we'll
go
through
what
has
been
implemented.
What
we've
gotten
started
in
the
past
year,
we'll
also
have
a
detailed
analysis
of
our
emissions
inventory.
N
Unfortunately,
we're
always
going
to
be
a
year
behind,
so
we
don't
have
our
2009
emissions
yet
and
some
of
that's
tied
to
how
we
collect
our
data
and
when
some
of
it
gets
is
ready
for
us
to
use
and
what
you'll
see
here
is
the
city
of
evanston.
We
represent
two
percent
of
our
our
total
emissions.
The
good
news
is
we
as
a
city,
our
operations,
our
buildings
are
going
down
in
our
emissions
use
or
in
our
emissions,
and
we've
actually
gone
three
percent
below
what
our
target
goal
was
for
the
city.
N
N
By
about
6
000
metric
tons
of
co2
equivalent-
and
that
takes
us
from
that
13
reduction
goal
to
actually
14
percent,
but
we
do
have
some
reductions.
If
you
look
2005
to
06
and
07
to
8
and
hopefully
08
to
09,
we
will
continue
to
see
reductions,
especially
since
the
climate
action
plan
is,
has
been
in
place
for
a
year
and
we'll
hope
to
see
some
of
that
in
our
2009
emissions.
N
One
of
those
things
is
the
american
reinvestment,
no
recovery,
reimbu
investment
act,
which
we
as
a
community
over
30
000
residents,
received
a
formula
grant
of
seven
thousand
forty
nine
seven
hundred
forty
nine
thousand
seven
hundred
dollars
just
under
three
quarters
of
a
million.
With
that
funding,
we
will
be
doing
some
energy
efficiency
improvements
at
some
of
our
buildings.
N
We're
going
to
be
able
to
install
our
first
solar
panel
on
a
city
building
which
will
happen
at
the
water
plant
and
we're
also
putting
about
a
third
of
this
funding
towards
low
income
to
moderate
income.
Weatherization
grants
in
the
community
another
opportunity
that
was
a
good
fit
for
launching
the
climate
action
plan.
The
city
was
asked
to
participate.
N
One
of
about
a
dozen
communities
asked
to
participate
in
the
comed
community
energy
challenge,
through
that
we
put
together
a
plan
and
based
on
what
we
proposed:
a
bunch
of
sustainability
measures
from
energy
efficiency,
improvements
and
municipal
buildings,
outreach
and
improvements
in
our
business
nectar
and
also
at
the
residential
level.
We
comed
and
the
state
came
back
to
us
and
and
committed
almost
500
000
in
reserved
energy
efficiency
program
funding.
That's
not
a
grant!
N
It's
it's
money
that
in
many
cases
requires
matches,
but
350
000
of
that
is
is
just
for
our
businesses
through
the
com,
comed,
smart
ideas
for
your
business
program,
and
they
have
just
about
spent
through
all
of
their
program
funding
for
the
program
year,
which
ends
at
the
end
of
may.
So
we
now
still
have
some
money
for
our
businesses
to
take
advantage
of
and
make
make
efficiency
improvements
and
and
get
some
some
help
from
comed
and
then.
N
Finally,
we
I
want
to
acknowledge
the
citizens
for
greener
evanston
who
really
formed
as
a
result
of
this
plan.
Many
of
them
helped
put
together
the
plan
and
it's
a
group
of
of
enthusiastic
dedicated
individuals
who
have
put
their
own
time
and
and
resources
towards
really
trying
to
move
this
community
forward
and
meet
this
this
goal.
N
N
The
savings
that
you'll
see
on
the
next
couple
slides
are
not
hard
and
fast,
they're,
really
conservative
estimates
and
when
you're
dealing
with
with
buildings
and
energy
efficiency.
It's
there's
a
lot
of
variables
and
some
are
going
to
achieve
more
energy
savings
and
and
and
some
not
so
many,
but
there
was
a
I
just
wanna.
N
There
was
a
restaurant
down
in
chicago
that
took
advantage
of
comed's
smart
ideas
for
business
program.
They
invested
just
under
three
thousand
dollars,
did
a
bunch
of
lighting
retrofits.
It
really
wasn't
a
very
big
project.
I
think
they
had
75
incandescent
lights,
that
they
swapped
out
with
cfl's
and
had
a
couple
motors
that
they
changed
out
three
thousand
under
three
thousand
dollars
for
the
total
project
and
they
are
now
saving
four
hundred
dollars
a
month
on
their
electric
bill.
N
Another
thing
I
would
recommend
is
that
we
really
push
to
get
our
low
and
moderate
income
residents
connected
to
the
state
weatherization
free
weatherization
program.
There
are
other
programs
out
there
that
I
would
encourage.
We
connect
our
residents
to
as
well,
but
this
one
in
particular
this
year
with
stimulus
funding,
went
from
just
under
30
million
in
program
funding
to
242
hundred
million.
That's
substantial
and
it's
a
free
program.
The
savings
aren't
as
substantial
as
we
can
see
on
the
commercial
side,
but
it's
a
free
program
and
it's
a
great
benefit
to
our
residents.
N
N
We
have
a
lot
of
potential
to
to
save
at
our
at
our
buildings
and
through
our
operations,
but
additionally-
and
I
think
more
importantly,
by
coming
together,
we
can
start
having
some
conversations
about
how
we
can
think
beyond
just
our
operations
and
come
up
with
some
some
projects
that
together,
we
can-
that
can
have
a
great
benefit
to
the
community,
with
three
three
good
years
to
go.
I
I
think,
and
and
over
200
strategies
in
the
plan.
N
The
citizens
for
greener
evanston
have
spent
a
lot
of
time
and
research
looking
at
the
idea
of
renewable
energy
generation
out
on
lake
michigan,
and
I
I
think
we
as
a
community
need
to
decide
if
this
is
something
we
want
to
move
forward
with,
and
I
mean
this
is
10
15
years
out.
If,
if
we
decide
to
pursue
it
and
if
not,
I
think
we
really
need
to
look
seriously
at
our
alternatives
for
renewable
energy
generation,
because
energy
efficiency
is
is
a
big
piece
of
it.
N
But
we
we've
also
got
to
connect
it
to
renewable
energy
generation,
and
it's
got
to
be
bigger
than
just
a
solar
panel
here
and
there
on
a
couple,
roofs.
We
we
need
to
think
community-wide
and
come
up
with
a
way
to
to
generate
our
own
energy
here
in
evanston
and
then.
Finally,
our
goal
right
now
takes
us
to
2012
and
it's
it's
a
pretty
small
emissions
reduction.
N
We
need
to
set
a
long-term
goal
if,
if
we
want
to
be
a
leader
in
sustainability
and
if
we
want
to
catch
up
to
the
other
communities
out
there
that
are
really
taking
this
seriously,
we
need
to
look
at
an
80
reduction
in
our
emissions
by
2050
and
that's
at
a
minimum,
and,
as
you
can
see,
this
isn't
an
easy
thing.
We
we
have
a
just
hitting
140
000
metric
tons
of
co2
equivalent
in
a
couple
of
years
is
going
to
be
a
big
task.
D
D
O
O
Q
O
Q
N
N
R
Alderman
fisk,
yes,
thank
you,
madam
mayor
caroline,
I
just
had
a
couple
of
questions
for
you
when
you
were
talking
about
the
various
the
breakdowns
of
the
various
consumers.
You
referred
to
residential
community
and
the
city
as
the
major
three
are
you,
including
in
the
commercial,
the
university
and
the
hospitals.
R
A
R
R
R
Held
especially
during
the
mayoral
campaign-
and
I
remember
hearing
two
discussions-
one
of
turbines
off
the
northwestern
campus
close
to
close
to
shore
and
the
other
one
about
10
miles
out
into
the
lake
and
so
I'd.
I
I
feel
a
little
uncomfortable
discussing
wind
turbines
until
we've
had
a
chance
to
find
out
exactly
what
what
would
be
the
approach
that
we
would
want
to
take.
R
N
In
answer
to
your
first
question,
I
can't
speak
to
what
northwestern
is
doing.
I,
too
have
heard
through
many
people
that
they
are
doing
a
lot
and
I
think
you'll
find
that
a
lot
of
our
larger
institutions
who
have
big
energy
loads
are
looking
and
probably
ahead
of
the
curve
in
identifying
opportunities
for
reductions,
because
they
have
such
substantial
energy,
loads
and
utility
bills.
N
I
do
know,
I
believe
they
for
all
new
buildings
are
going
lead
silver
and
had
decided
that,
a
few
years
ago
before
we
passed
our
ordinance
in
terms
of
the
turbines.
What
I'd
heard
was
about
two
three
miles
out.
There
are
so
many
things
that
that
need
to
be
looked
at.
Yes,
birds.
No
one
has
looked
at
whether
or
not
from
my
conversations
that
I've
had
with
the
state
there
haven't
been
any
studies
of
nighttime
bird
travel
over
the
lake
and
that
would
have
to
be
looked
at.
N
We'd
also
have
to
look
at
the
habitat
under
the
water.
Whether
or
not
fish
would
be
affected.
There
are
it's,
it's
a
big
conversation
and
there
are
a
lot
of
viewpoints
that
are
going
to
need
to
be
considered,
and
I'm
just
asking
that
in
the
next
year
we
make
a
decision
as
to
whether
or
not
we
want
to
take
that
proposal
seriously
and
really
go
for
it
or
if
it
is
just
something
that
our
community
as
a
whole
is
not
supportive
of.
We
need.
N
R
N
One
of
the
challenges
that
we
have
in
the
civic
center
is
that
we
don't
pay
for
electricity,
and
that
makes
it
real
challenging
to
get
a
cost,
a
payback
that
makes
sense,
especially
with
renewable
energy,
which
is
you
know,
unless
we
could
find
grants
that
would
cover
the
entire
thing.
It
would
be.
A
hard
cost
to
justify
renewable
energy
is
still
very
expensive.
R
M
Madam
mayor
alderman
fisk,
I
think
one
of
our
concerns
is
if
we
do
that
they'll
say
well,
then
we'll
just
sell
you
all
the
electricity
for
the
whole
building,
so
there
may
be
opportunities
in
other
facilities.
I
think
as
we're
making
some
good
progress
on
a
pilot
basis
at
the
water
facility.
We
obviously
have
a
police
department,
community
centers
other
facilities.
S
Thank
you,
madam
mayor,
you
mentioned
money
being
out
there
right
now
for
both
residents
and
with
regard
to
weatherizing
and
businesses,
and
you
mentioned
you
know
our
challenge:
to
connect
with
all
these
people.
What
what
are
we
doing?
Are
we
being
aggressive
about
it?
Are
we
pursuing
it?
How
are
we
going
about
if
there
is
money
out
there
now?
What
are
we?
What
are
we
doing
about
that.
N
Well,
I
apologize
I've
been
gone
for
the
last
three
months,
so
much
of
the
comed
energy
challenge
plan
has
has
been
on
hold
and
we
have
until
may
to
complete
our
plan
and
it
is
a
priority
of
mine
for
the
coming
months.
We
unfortunately
actually
have
a
deadline
of
the
end
of
january
to
get
our
businesses
connected
to
those
reserve
dollars.
So
we
really
need
to
step
up
our
efforts
to
do
that.
Outreach
to
the
businesses.
S
N
Right
and
the
work
will
take
a
while,
and
there
may
be
a
year
wait
to
actually
get
the
work
done.
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
money
and
in
terms
of
people
to
do
the
work,
probably
not
as
as
much
at
the
moment.
So
there
could
be
a
wait,
yes
and
that's
why
we
should
really
encourage
people
to
go
apply
now
and
get
approved
now.
N
S
M
Obviously
lots
of
folks
in
evanston
very
interested
about
these
issues,
so
carolyn's
trying
to
harness
community
volunteers
in
addition
to
nu
student
interns,
so
we're
going
to
do
our
best
between
now
and
january
to
get
the
word
out
and
as
we
move
forward,
especially
with
this
comed
grant,
because
it's
really
a
great
opportunity.
It's
only
a
handful
of
communities
throughout
the
state
of
illinois
that
are
participating
so
with
limited
resources,
we're
trying
to
be
creative
and
leveraging
volunteers
and
interns.
N
N
M
And
alderman
job
ft's,
I
think
of
all
the
issues
that
ms
collopy
mentioned
this
evening.
I
think
it's
probably
that's
the
number
one
issue
as
far
as
moving
forward
with
this
program,
and
I
think
now
it
really
is
a
catalyst
with
the
miss
copy
returning
from
maternity
leave
getting
some
volunteers
but
of
those
four
or
five
things
that
she
indicated
as
being
priorities.
That's
probably
our
number
one
right
now
right.
T
And
I
know
that
the
citizens
for
green
or
evanston
is
already
involved
in
doing
weatherization.
I
remember
last
year
there
was
some
initiatives
being
undertaken
in
some
neighborhoods,
so
my
suggestion
would
be
that
we
try
to
centralize
the
information,
so
we
know
what's
going
on.
We
know
all
the
partners
involved
and
we
we
try
to
make
sure
that
we
follow
up
on
that.
I
do
have
a
second
question.
Kellen
the
whole
carbon
offset
area
is
discussed
as
a
growth
business
opportunity.
T
N
Just
to
clarify
you're
talking
about
selling,
perhaps
some
of
our
emission
credits
is.
Is
that
correct?
As
as
we
achieve
emission
reductions
selling
those
credits?
It's
it's
not
something.
I
can
speak
too
extensively
on.
I
know.
In
the
past
I've
looked
at.
There
are
organizations
out
there
that
do
have
grants,
they're
very
specific
as
to
what
types
of
activities
they
will
fund
the
emission
reductions
in,
for
example,
the
delta
institute
was
paying
farmers
to
reduce
emissions
or
for
credits,
and
it's
something
we
can
certainly
look
at
as
a
an
opportunity
for
future
funding.
U
First,
thank
you
carolyn
very
much
for
your
report
and
welcome
back
we're
glad
to
have
you
and
in
response
to
mr
zation's
comment
about
wondering
whether
there's
a
role
for
citizens
for
greener
evanston.
Of
course,
there
is-
and
I
can't
imagine,
undertaking
reductions
in
emissions
that
we
need
to
achieve
by
2012
without
the
involvement
of
citizens
for
greener,
evanston
and
the
larger
community.
This
is
going
to
be
an
enormous
undertaking.
N
Well,
I
think,
for
the
coming
year,
we
should
really
focus
on
our
outreach.
We
have
sent
out
notification
of
the
funding
through
the
e-news
through
highlights.
We
can
certainly
do
more
outreach
to
businesses
and
having
assistance
from
our
council,
I
think,
would
be
of
great
benefit.
Given
your
connection
to
your
individual
wards
and
the
businesses
within
them,
I
think
those
would
be
good
places
to
start.
M
And
madam
mayor
alderman
grover,
if
I
can
add,
as
ms
coppy
mentioned,
really
working
sort
of
a
dual
track.
It's
the
large
businesses
that
we've
not
been
as
successful
in
gathering
some
momentum
on
carolyn's
had
some
initial
discussions
with
a
new
sustainability
person
at
northwestern
or
rotary
international.
The
largest
property
tax,
paying
business
in
the
city
of
evanston
has
reached
out
to
us
and
has
asked
for
our
assistance
in
is
in
their
work,
in
addition
to
the
hospitals
and
the
other
large
institutions.
So
we'll
they
continue
to
do
that.
M
N
O
N
It
is
federal
funding
that
gets
funneled
through
the
state.
It
is
for
income,
qualified
households.
I
don't
know
the
income
guidelines
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
it
is
actually,
I
think
they
just
changed
it
to
I'm,
not
gonna.
Try
to
guess
I'm
sorry.
There
are
income
qualifications,
it's
low
income,
households
and
the
crew
through
ceta
comes
out.
Does
an
energy
audit
of
your
home
identifies
measures
for
improvement?
Usually
it's
insulation
and
air
sealing
and
potentially
a
new
furnace.
If
your
furnace
is,
would
would
benefit
from
an
upgrade.
N
N
O
It
is
now
it
is,
it
is
centralized
it
used
to
do
the
work
I
used
to
run
that
program
when
it
was
there.
I
didn't
know
if
it
was
the
same
program
or
not,
but
it
sounds
like
it
is
because
those
are
the
same
kinds
of
things
we
used
to
do,
but
it's
being
run
out
of
downtown.
I
believe,
and
I'm
I
just
think
it's
very
important
that
we
let
people
know
and
if
you
could
find
out.
That
would
be
great.
What
is
the
wait
time?
O
O
N
Okay,
the
comed
community
on
energy
challenge
is
a
pilot
program.
There
are
about
12
communities
in
common
service
territory
that
are
participating,
we're
competing
against
each
other.
We
all
have
put
together
sustainability
plans
that
have
proposed
a
variety
of
energy
efficiency
improvements
and
other
sustainability
measures
within
our
municipal,
residential
and
commercial
sectors.
N
N
N
If
you
replace
so
many
t12
lamps
with
t8
lamps,
you'll,
get
a
dollar
amount
incentive
for
that
swap
out.
That's
one
example
of
a
prescriptive
measure
you
could
take
to
participate
in
the
program
there
are
motor
upgrades
you
can
make.
That
would
be
really
appropriate
for
restaurants.
These
are
all
electric
initiatives,
because
comed
sells
electricity.
Now
does.
O
N
Yes,
they
they
need
to
get
pre-approved
through
comed,
the
applications
online.
All
of
the
program
information
is
online
or
they
can
call
comed
and
get
information
that
way,
and
they
can
also
come
and
set
up
a
bunch
of
trade
allies
who
are
contractors
that
do
this
type
of
work
and
they're
happy
to
come
out
and
look
through
a
building
and
make
some
recommendations
on
efficiency,
approve
improvements
that
will
qualify
for
the
program.
V
V
Ask
her:
I
think
that
we
need
to
do
that.
Then
I
wanted
to
go
back
caroline
before
you
left.
If
I
remember
correctly,
when
we
received
the
700
000
grant,
was
there
not,
I
believe,
maybe
like
10
000
set
aside
for
some
kind
of
programs
for
seniors?
Do
I
remember
that
correctly?
I
think
you
made
that
proposal.
N
N
P
I
imagine
that
when
somebody
decided
we
should
build
a
water
plant,
you
know
whatever
it
was
a
hundred
and
some
years
ago
somebody
said
what
are
we
ever
going
to
use
all
that
water,
for
so
I'd
like
to
position
ourselves
for
long
term
for
the
future,
we're
not
going
to
build
windmills
or
any
other
plant
in
the
next
year
or
two.
But
I'd
like
to
be
well
positioned.
You
know
15
20
years
down
the
road
to
be
able
to
take
advantage
of
whatever
technology
we
can.
We
can
utilize
so
continue
with
that
vision.
M
G
L
C
Thank
you,
city
manager.
Yes,
I'm
going
to
provide
an
overview
of
the
lakefront
master
plan
that
was
approved
and
go
through
it
and
I'm
going
to
try
to
go
through
it
fairly
quickly
and
no
number
of
members
of
the
audience
have
seen
it
a
few
times
and
members
of
the
council,
some
members
of
the
council,
so
tonight
we're
going
to
background
information
and
statistics
review
of
the
recently
completed
projects,
we're
going
to
review
in
progress
projects
and
we're
going
to
view
some
of
the
future
cip
identified
projects
from
the
plan.
C
First
of
all,
lake
lakefront
uses
in
revenues.
The
annual
lakefront
park
use
scheduled
picnic
reservations
about
217
about
11
000
attendees
beach
attendance
is
approximately
135
000
dog
beach
attendance,
almost
15
000,
the
dempster
street,
launching
about
almost
1600
the
church
street
launches
almost
a
thousand
the
lakeshore
and
the
ethnic
art
festival's
attendance
come
in
at
about
50
000
is
our
estimate.
The
starlight
concert
attendance
is
about
six
thousand
and
of
course,
it's
hard
to
really
estimate
what
the
year-round
park
and
path
users.
C
C
The
capital
investments
from
1980
through
1999
there's
really
very
limited
data
that
exists.
However,
what
we
have
been
able
to
find
is
about
one
two,
one
point:
two
million
dollars
for
shore
protection
in
the
early
eighties,
eight
hundred
thousand
for
the
church
street
boat
ramp,
including
approximately
a
four
hundred
thousand
grant
from
from
the
federal
government
in
the
early
eighties.
C
Seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
pathways
furnishings
risk,
reforestation
and
lagoon
improvements,
including
a
two
hundred
thousand
dollar
grant
from
the
federal
government
in
the
early
eighties
and
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
renovations
at
seven
buildings.
In
the
in
the
early
eighties,
total
expenditures
from
1980
to
89
was
2.7
million
dollars.
Total
expenditures
from
1990
to
1999
represents
375
000,
the
capital
investments
from
2000
to
2009
the
breakdown
of
investments
about
3.9
million
dollars.
First
of
all,
the
clark
street
beach
and
dune
renovation
project
it's
ongoing.
Now
it's
1.4
million
dollars,
design
and
construction.
C
The
dumpster
street
beach
non-motorized
boat
storage
facility
is
a
393
thousand
dollars
and
a
lake
front
from
leeda
clark
street
the
bike
path,
which
is
also
a
project
underway.
Now
it's
245
thousand
dollars
in
design
only.
In
addition,
we
have
the
lawson
park,
which
is
the
noaa's
playground,
lighthouse
landing.
The
american
with
disabilities
act,
project
2007
and
eight
1.3
million
design
and
construction
includes
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
private
donations.
C
The
park
strategic
plan
in
2001
outlined
a
strategic
plan
for
all
park
system
improvements,
including
a
number
of
significant
needs
for
the
lakefront
parks.
The
majority
of
implemented
improvements
have
involved,
involved,
neighborhood
park
renovations
only
and
very
minimal
lakefront
investment
adopted
in
2001.
C
The
city
strategic
plan
in
2006
outlined
outlying
division
for
the
overall
city
in
recognition
of
the
lakefront's
ongoing
deterioration,
strategic
goal,
4
objective
c
continued
to
develop
an
environmentally
sensitive
lakefront
master
plan.
This
was
unanimously
approved
by
the
council
on
march
27
of
2006..
C
We
started
a
lakefront
vision
in
2007
five
workshops
and
public
meetings
were
convened,
outlines
a
series
of
goals
and
objectives
for
the
lakefront
master
plan.
It
was
completed
in
2007.,
the
lakefront
master
plan,
2008,
seven
public
meetings,
two
planning
and
development
committee
presentations
and
one
council
presentation.
C
Master
plan
created
a
road
map
for
specific
improvements
to
be
constructed
at
the
lakefront
over
the
next
20
or
more
years,
unanimously
approved
by
council
on
january
28.
2008..
All
these
documents
are
available
on
the
city's
website.
Lakefront
documents
are
located
at
the
city
of
evanston.org
lakefront
lakefront
plan.
C
This
slide
represents
many
many
of
the
lakefront
projects,
as
listed
in
the
strategic
or
the
master
plan.
If
you
look
at
the
color
key
in
the
lower
right
hand,
corner
you'll,
see
blue
represents
recently
completed
projects,
the
red
in
progress,
green
future,
cip
identified
projects
and
black
future
master
plan
identified
projects.
C
The
project
status.
This
was
completed
in
2009
with
a
final
cost:
architectural
fees
of
52
000
in
construction
fees
of
444
000.
This
now
makes
the
lighthouse
landing
beach
area
and
the
lawson
park
totally
accessible
for
all
the
jens
jensen,
grotto
reconstruction,
the
project,
scope,
stonework
and
fountain
system
of
reconstruction.
C
C
The
construction
document
bidding
completed
in
june
thousand
nine,
currently
construction
with
completion
anticipated
december,
two
thousand
nine
estimated
cost
architectural
fees
included
in
the
park
in
the
clark
project,
construction
fees,
three
hundred
ninety
three
thousand
dollars-
and
this
is
fully
funded
through
prior
bond
issues,
the
leeda
clark,
bike
path,
the
project,
scope,
design
and
reconstruct
over
a
mile
of
bike
path,
design
and
construct
over
one
mile
of
security
lighting,
the
status
phase,
one
and
two
engineering
is
completed.
Phase.
C
Three
engineering
and
local
agency
agreement
adopted
by
the
city
council
on
11
9
09
project
will
be
let
by
idot
march
2010
and
construction
is
anticipated,
the
spring
and
summer
of
twenty
ten,
the
estimated
cost
engineering
fees
of
three
hundred
and
forty
two
thousand
dollars
in
the
construction
fees.
One
point:
six
million
1.69
million
the
status
of
partially
funded
prior
bond
issue,
itep,
which
is
through
idot,
and
the
recovery
act
pending
additional
2011,
cip.
C
C
In
our
master
plan
lagoon
suction
pit
replacement,
this
is
the
area
we
need
to
re
repair
in
order
for
our
staff
to
be
able
to
work
on
the
mechanics
of
this
construction
fees
about
forty
five
thousand
dollars,
the
deering
shelter
repair.
This
is
a
picnic
shelter
at
lighthouse
that
is
used
quite
heavily
for
picnics
and
gatherings
that
construction
fee
is
about
25
000.
You
can
see
the
funding
status,
it's
pending,
2011,
cip.
C
The
fog
signal
house
renovations.
These
are
national
historic
buildings.
The
two
buildings
on
either
side
of
the
lighthouse
are
extremely
disrepair.
They
need
roof
work,
hvac,
wood
framing,
it
needs
a
great
deal
of
work.
We
have
applied
for
a
federal
grant
about
seven
years
in
a
row
and
have
been
turned
down
seven
years
in
a
row.
C
C
You
can
see
it's
a
project
that
cost
about
450,
000
or
so
again.
This
is
out
in
the
year
2012
at
this
point
garden
park
renovation.
This
is
a
park
on
the
lakefront.
It's
a
neighborhood
type
park,
it's
hidden
quite
well.
It
is
a
typical
renovation
project,
like
we
have
done
on
so
many
parks
in
inside
the
city.
C
C
Greenweed
street
beach
and
dunes
renovation,
this
is
a
design
and
construct
a
new
beach
restroom
and
entry
facility
drop
off
at
greenwood
street
to
replace
the
existing
deteriorated
and
non-ada
compliant
structure.
We
would
be
removing
the
existing
greenwood
street
beach
facility
stage.
The
the
status
is
scheduled
for
design
in
2012
and
constructed
in
213.
C
The
estimated
costs
and
architectural
fees
and
construction
fees
are
an
estimate.
We
have
this
at
this
point
in
2012
and
2013,
and
it
would
be
again
one
of
these
projects
where
we
would
be
involving
the
neighborhood,
the
community
in
our
as
we
move
forward
with
architectural
design,
the
evanston
arts
center
improvements,
the
project,
scope,
rehabilitate,
deteriorated
sections
of
the
exterior
structure,
including
windows,
pulse
trades
and
stairs
and
roofing
projects
is
scheduled
for
design
in
212
and
construction
in
13..
C
Church
street
launch
ramp
and
dog
beach
improvements
that
perform
wave
modeling
for
beach,
armoring
and
harbor
system
design
and
construct
improvements
to
reduce
and
eliminate
harbor
dredging
repair,
deteriorated
harbor
areas
consolidate
and
reconstruct
the
boat
parking
and
protected
dog
beach
from
wave
attack.
Projects
are
scheduled
for
design
in
2014
in
construction
and
phases,
beginning
2015.,
estimated
engineering
fees,
350,
000
and,
of
course,
construction
is
something
fees.
We
can't
really
estimate
at
this
point.
It
would
all
depend
on
the
results
of
the
testing
that
we
would
be
doing.
C
T
Yeah
during
the
public
comment,
there
was
a
statement
made
that
one
of
the
main
agreement
of
those
who
were
planning
and-
and
the
proposal
to
us
that
we
adopted-
is
that
we
should
minimize
revenue.
I
forgot
how
it
was
stated.
Maybe
it
was
mr
reynolds
limiting
limited
yeah
limit,
limited
okay
and
right,
and
so
what
does
that
mean
then
doug?
How
did
you
understand
that?
Because
I
never
thought
that
limited
revenue
means
you
know
just
not
exploring
the
various
options
to
bring
in
revenue.
T
C
C
T
T
T
A
lot
of
revenue,
we
are
talking
about
expenditures
out
stripping
our
stripping
revenue
this
year
by
we're
already
facing
a
shortfall
of
eight
million
dollars,
and
I
would
think
in
the
next
three
four
five
years
I
don't
know
many
people
may
have
an
expectation
that
the
recovery
is
forthcoming
and
we
will
get
back
to
the
boom
era
that
we
enjoyed,
maybe
five
six
years
ago.
I
don't
see
it
like
that
and
I
think
we
have
to
be
open
to
all
kinds
of
possibilities
and
not
foreclose
any
creative
ideas
that
may
be
brought
before
us.
P
When
we
got
together
and
we
came
up
with
the
priorities-
and
of
course
this
was
a
priority
and
it
was
included
on
my
list-
but
to
me
it's
a
priority
to
implement
the
plan,
so
you've
articulated
the
plan's
been
developed
and
in
my
mind
the
goal
is
to
figure
out
a
way
to
get
these
things
done.
That
are
part
of
that
plan,
but
also
to
make
it
consistent
with
that.
We
want
to
preserve
the
asset.
We
want
to
preserve
the
character
of
the
lakefront.
P
At
least
I
do,
and
the
difficulty
is
that
might
come
with
the
cost
fees
might
have
to
be
increased.
We
might
have
a
few
more
events,
but
to
me
it's
to
do
these
things
consistent
with
the
overall
plan.
That's
been
developed,
you
know
not
to
open
a
food
court
not
to
do
anything
not
to
put
up
water
slides
into
the
water.
Nothing
of
that
nature.
In
my
mind,
you
could
certainly
probably
generate
a
lot
of
revenue
doing
things
like
that,
but
at
too
great
cost.
P
C
Yes,
from
time
to
time,
we've
had
requests
for
musical
concerts
for
four
or
five
thousand
folks,
which
we
just
don't
have
a
venue
for,
but
it's
been
suggested
at
the
lakefront
and
at
james
park,
so
we've
had
from
time
to
time
requests
for
specific
types
of
activities.
However,
as
has
been
pointed
out
by
alderman
jean-baptiste,
there
has
been
a
policy
adopted
by
the
council
to
limit
the
number
of
activities
and
activity
days
at
the
lakefront.
V
C
I'm
sorry
if
I
didn't
express
it
properly,
there's
a
limit
on
the
number
of
activity
days
at
the
lakefront
for
the
summer,
so
that
includes
fun
runs
the
festivals,
the
concerts.
So
I
think
there's
it's
in
the
area
of
about
20
days
or
21
days
that
we
can
have
these
kind
of
activities
at
the
lakefront.
C
Q
Yes,
aldermen
homes,
we
adopted
the
their
limitation
on
the
lakefront
usage.
I
think
it
was
before
you
joined
the
council
and
part
of
the
initiative.
There
was
because
there
were
several
things:
one
every
run:
every
race,
every
bike,
event
that
was
coming
down
the
lake
from
someplace
north
decided
they
wanted
their
last
staging
area
to
be
in
on
the
lakefront.
Q
V
To
can
I
just
sure
I
underst,
I
understand
that
was
there
any
conversation,
because
those
were
better
economic
times
then,
but
was
there
any
discussion
in
terms
of
looking
at
the
activities
in
categories
such
as
revenue?
Producing,
I
see
a
difference
between,
say
a
bike
run
or
a
a
concert
or
an
art
festival.
So
was
there
any
kind
of
categories,
or
just
these
are
number
of
days,
and
and
that's
it
no.
Q
I
I
don't
think,
well,
I
think,
the
the
the
and
I'm
trying
to
remember
back
that
far,
but
a
lot
of
it
was
based
on
and
like
you'll
remember
what
are
these
act?
Which
of
these
activities
are
evanston
centered
and
which
are
like
a
national
charitable
organization
and
they
want
to
use
evanston
as
their
last
staging
ground
which
isn't
really
an
evanston-based
organization.
The
people
who
are
coming
through
aren't
necessarily
evanstonian.
Q
So
I
don't
think
we
were
looking
necessarily
at
what
generates
revenue
or
not,
because
I'm
not
sure
that
how
much
of
these
like,
like
a
bike
race?
Well,
I
mean
like
a
stage
bike
race,
as
opposed
to
the
international
bike.
Race
would
make
money
for
us.
I
think
everyone
has
to
pay
a
fee,
but
mostly
it
was
what
what
who's
who's
who's
using
the
lake
front.
And
how
much
is
that?
Really?
Q
But
I
did
want
to
go
back
to
the
lakefront
master,
so
I
don't
aldermen
homes.
I
don't
think
we.
We
brought
that
into
an
account
into
account,
but
I
do
want
to
bring
up
a
couple
points
one.
I
think
that
we
should
move
forward,
maintaining
the
purpose
of
the
lakefront
master
plan,
because
it
was
a
community
generated,
a
plan
that
there
was
enormous
amount
of
thought
that
went
into
it.
We
had
meetings
all
over
the
community.
Q
It's,
the
lakefront
is
there
for
everyone
to
enjoy
in
the
way
that
they
want
to
create,
but
not
that
we
create
for
them,
for
instance,
a
water
slide.
That
idea
did
come
up
at
one
point,
but
also
most
of
the
lakefront
is
residential.
I
mean
there's
only
a
small
portion
of
it
that
isn't,
and
so
that
would
mean
that
you
would
concentrate
any
commercialization
there
and
it's
one
of
the
best
parts
of
our
lakefront.
Q
So
I
overwhelmingly
the
consensus
of
the
community
was
less
and
less
commercialization
and
improving
and
enhancing
the
things
that
we
do
offer
at
the
lakefront,
for
instance
the
non-motorized
boat
launch,
where
we
are
making
money
at
a
fairly
good
clip.
I
don't
know
whether
we
currently
are,
but
to
encourage
people
to
come
out
and
rent
a
kayak,
a
canoe,
a
sailboat
and
take
lessons
and
and
use
our
lake
front
in
that
way,
but
not
to
build
a
restaurant
or
have
some
other
commercial
activity.
Q
Q
Q
So
I
would
encourage
the
council
to
continue
to
maintain
the
the
the
goals
of
the
lakefront
master
plan
and,
if
you
read
through
them,
they're
all
about
enhancing
and
maintaining
what
we
have
and
improving
it
in
the
ways
that
we've
neglected
all
of
these
years,
because
it
is
we're
unique
along
the
north
shore,
we
don't
have
as
commercialized
in
lakefront
as
chicago
and
wilmette.
I
don't
know,
I
haven't
been
able
to
get
to
the
wilmette
lakefront
for
years,
because
I
don't
have
a
parking,
a
well-met
parking
sticker.
Q
So
I
I
would
encourage
us
all
to
re.
Re-Read
the
lakefront
master
plan.
I
reread
it
again
today.
It
was
a
very
good
document.
It
has
it
emphasizes
our
green
initiatives
and
it
emphasizes
the
ways
in
which
the
lakefront
improves
the
lives
of
all
of
us,
and
I
do
remember
a
very
interesting
point
that
some
people
made
during
the
unfortunate
marina
discussion
years
ago,
but
the
only
good
thing
about
it
was
one
of
the
things
that
I
remember
is.
Q
Someone
commented
that
we
live
in
a
very
dense
urban
environment
and
the
lake
is
a
wilderness,
and
we
are
really
it's
something.
That's
very
unusual
and
rare
for
people
who
live
in
a
big
city
environment
to
live
next
to
wilderness
and
the
lake
really
is
still
wild,
and
it's
always
stayed
with
me
that
it's
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
that
is
so
fascinating
about
living
here
in
evanston
is
that
we
live
next
to
this
water
wilderness.
A
As
when
I
was
on
plan
commission,
I
looked
at
the
plan
a
lot,
but
also
to
enhance
the
current
activities,
such
as
the
non-motorized
vehicle
activities,
cycling,
having
more
amenities
for
people
that
are
coming
coming
to
the
beach
as
well,
and
then
I
actually
have
a
follow-up
question
to
alderman
john
baptiste,
because
I
I
I
actually
agree
agree
with
your
points
of
what
what
are
some
ideas.
What
are
some
other
ways
to
look
at
activities,
and
did
you
have
some
specific
ideas
for
activities
along
the
lakefront?
T
I
didn't
have
any
specific
ideas
I
just
didn't
want
to
foreclose,
because
we
have
leadership
coming
to
to
guide
us
in
many
different
areas
of
economic
development
and
we've
been
very
lacking
in
that
and-
and
I
think
that
you
know
we
have
to
stay
open
to
the
possibilities,
as
opposed
to
foreclosing
the
options.
That's
what
I'm
talking
about.
L
T
R
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
alderman,
wynn.
I
don't
think
anyone
says
it
as
well
as
you
do.
I
mean
you've
just
been
you
know
a
leader
on
the
lakefront,
lakefront
preservation,
lakefront
use
for
so
many
years,
and
we're
really
lucky
to
have
you
I
mean,
even
as
a
private
citizen,
I
thought,
thank
goodness.
Alderman
wynn
is
up
there
talking
about
the
lakefront.
R
There
are
a
couple
things
that
I
want
to
say.
First
of
all,
when
we
were
talking
about
setting
these
priorities
when
wally
asked
us
to
come
up
with
the
10
goals
or
priorities
for
the
council
and
I'm
sure
alderman
win-
and
I
agreed
on
this
when
we
started
to
talk
about
the
lakefront,
it
wasn't
in
terms
of
lakefront
development.
It
was
the
lakefront
as
a
priority
for
the
community.
R
I
think,
if
you
ask
anyone
why
they
come
to
evanston
the
first,
the
top
three
will
be
anything
from
the
lakefront
or
transportation
or
schools
and,
depending
on
the
person,
the
lakefront
will
always
be
up
there.
So
I
think
we
have
to
look
at
economic
development,
as
on
in
involving
the
lakefront
is
what
why
does
it
bring
people
into
evanston?
R
I
mean
the
lakefront
really
is
where
we
all
go
to
heal
it's
where
we
go
to
enjoy
it's
where
we
all
go
to
get
a
sense
of
what
evanston
was
in
the
beginning,
and
it's
it's
a
wonderful
place
to
be
in
the
summers.
I
go
down
and
eat
my
lunch
down
at
the
lagoon,
and
I
look
at
the
ducks
and
it's
wonderful.
R
R
R
R
Finally,
in
in
terms
of
the
leadership
that's
coming,
I
I'm
excited
about
new
leadership
coming
into
evanston.
I
think
it's
going
to
be
wonderful
to
have
a
friend
people
who
come
in
to
have
a
fresh
look
at
our
city,
but
I
also
more
than
that.
I
trust
the
the
people
who
have
been
using
the
lakefront
for
years.
I
trust
that
all
of
us
have
discussed
in
all
of
our
campaigns
leading
up
to
our
service
on
the
city
council,
that
the
lakefront
was
an
important
part
of
that
discussion.
U
Lakefront
plan
is
finding
the
highest
and
best
use
for
our
lakefront
and
and
finding
the
balance
between
passive
and
active
uses,
and
for
me
that
means
elevating
the
lake
front
to
our
list
of
goals
and
priorities
and
perhaps
then
making
this
master
plan
a
living
document
and
implementing
the
plan.
The
plan
is
not
even
two
years
old.
It
is
very
relevant
still
it's
an
important
document
and
it
was
a
great
process
that
produced
it.
U
I
think
I
was
part
of
that
process
as
a
matter
of
fact,
so
that
our
lakefront
activity
would
not
stay
static
so
that
the
master
plan
doesn't
stay
static,
so
in,
as
you
suggest,
aldermen
jean-baptiste,
so
that
we're
thinking
about
our
lakefront
in
different
ways,
not
only
revenue
generation,
but
how
our
lake
front
can
be
a
magnet
for
everyone,
and
so
that
every
resident
in
evanston
understands
that.
This
is
your
asset,
and
this
is
something
where
you
can
spend
time
and
enjoy
and
so
that
we
all
use
it.
U
So
for
me,
the
issue
is
access
to
the
lakefront,
maximizing
its
use
by
all
of
our
residents,
not
necessarily
out-of-towners,
coming
in
to
use
the
lake
front,
but
for
everyone
who
lives
within
evanston's
borders,
so
that
we
all
understand
that
this
is
an
asset
that
belongs
to
all
of
us
and
that's
what
I
meant
when
I
wanted.
Lakefront
development,
as
one
of
our
council's
goals
is
access,
find
the
lake
front's
highest
and
best
use
and
implement
the
master
plan.
U
O
T
H
D
M
Man,
members
of
the
council,
I
think
I've
heard
two
kind
of
competing
comments.
One
has
been
sort
of
to
stay
the
course
on
implementing
the
the
downtown
downtown
the
the
lakefront
plan.
The
other
has
been
to
sort
of
look
at
options
either,
and
I
guess
the
question
I
have
is:
should
we
look
at
options
actively
or
perhaps
be
aware
of
them
as
they
come
along
and
bring
them
to
you
as
they
may
make
sense?
As
alderman
john
baptist
has
mentioned,
you
know
we.
We
continue
to
refocus
our
economic
development
efforts.
P
I
don't
think
any
of
us
would
ever
want
to
preclude
you
from
bringing
us
an
interesting
idea,
so
to
the
extent
that
somebody
comes
up
with
something
that
is
of
interest,
but
you
know,
I
think,
within
the
general
parameters
of
you
know
not
a
large
construction,
not
a
casino.
You
know
nothing
dramatic
or
draconian,
so.
D
T
T
They're
meant
to
be
roadmaps
at
a
given
point
in
time
as
to
what
we
should
do
and
so
to
move
forward
to
face
our
challenges.
We
not
only
must
continue
to
enhance
our
resources,
but
also
maximize
their
uses,
as,
as
always
grover
indicated.
What
is
the
best
use
under
our
current
condition,
and
I
would
love
to
see
our
director
of
economic
development
and
community
development
and
our
city
manager
weigh
in
on
some
options
and
and
share
those
with
us.
That
doesn't
mean
that
we
will
accept
them
automatically,
but
I
think
we
should
be
open.
O
I
I
just
think
that
any
issue,
any
activity
that
comes
to
us
should
be
shared
with
the
council,
not
having
anything
to
do
with
the
lakefront.
I
mean
big
venues:
professional
tennis,
professional
football
music,
whatever
we
should
know
that
at
least
it's
coming
to
the
city
of
evanston,
a
request
is
being
made.
O
It
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
lakefront
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
just
that
we
should
know
and
have
conversations
about
those
things
I
mean.
I
know
that
there
are
mindsets
from
the
past
about
certain
kinds
of
activities
and
we've
lost
some
really
exciting
activities,
but
there's
always
room
for
a
new
discussion,
and
that's
all
I'm
saying
has
nothing
to
do
with
lakefront.
D
Well,
if
your
desire
is
to
be
sure
that
the
council
knows
of
everything,
that's
been
brought
up
as
a
possibility
for
the
lake
front.
I
think
I
have
told
most
of
you
that
there
is
a
small
professional
lacrosse
team
that
is
looking
at
a
possible
venue
of
northwestern
down
by
the
lake.
There
is
parking
on
campus
that
would
hold
all
of
it
and
their
other
option
is
possibly
evanston
high
school.
So
that's
a
a
use
that
I
don't
think
is
contrary
in
any
way
to
the
lakefront
plan.
O
Q
Q
Idea
that
comes
in
you've
already
thought
through
what
are
your
basic
values
and
goals
that
you
want
to
adhere
to
to
create
your
vision,
and
you
aren't
reactive
to
every
single
thing
that
arrives
that
comes
across,
but
you've
already
you've
taken
ownership
of
the
the
the
lakefront
and
you've
decided
what
your
vision
is
going
to
be.
So
with
that
in
mind,
I'd
say:
yes,
I'll,
listen
to
things,
but
if
someone
decides
we
we
really
do
want
to
build
a
water
park.
Q
Q
That's
what
the
city
council
adopted,
and
that
was
what
the
community
decided
together
along
with
the
consultant
and
so
no,
I
won't
look
at
any
every
single
idea
that
comes
in
the
door,
no
matter
how
much
money
it
generates
on
the
lakefront.
If
it
you
know,
we
could
generate
a
lot
of
money
on
the
lakefront.
If
we
just
rezoned
the
lagoon
to
d4
r6,
you
know
we
could
we
could
you
know,
but
I
know
everyone's
chuckling
no,
I
mean,
but
you
know
it's
a
slippery
slope.
Q
So
that's
why
we
developed
a
plan
so
that
we
didn't
have
this
reactive
process
that
we
have
lived
through
in
our
development
over
the
last
10
years.
That's
why
we
have
a
budget
policy.
That's
why
you
have
guidelines.
So
if
there's
something
unusual
out
there,
that's
very
that
is
in
keeping
with
the
plan
I'll
look
at
it,
but
I'm
I'm
not
gonna.
Look
at
something
that
says
we
can
bring
ten
thousand
people
every
single
sunday
and
we'll
bring.
Q
R
Yes,
thank
you,
madam
mayor.
One
of
the
things
that
I
like
about
wally.
So
much
is
that
wally
says
to
us
that
he'll
do
whatever
the
city
council
tells
him
to
do,
and
so
I
think
it's
a
little
bit
of
an
unfair
for
us
to
then
throw
this
back
into
wally's
lap
and
say
well
we're
not
going
to
decide
so,
while
you
and
your
new
staff
member
can
decide
and
then
bring
it
back
to
us,
you
know
the
fact
is
that
we
have
a
lakefront
plan.
R
R
I
think
that
we
should
respect
the
money
that
we
spent
on
consultants
and
the
time
that
the
citizens
of
evanston
took
to
comment
on
the
lakefront
and,
as
alderman
wynn
said,
there
are
some
uses
that
simply
are
not
compatible
with
that
public
discussion
and
the
conclusion
that
was,
you
know,
arrived
at
by
the
last
city
council,
and
so
I
want
to
respect
that.
I
do
want
to
leave
the
door
slightly
ajar
for
the
city
manager
if
something
exciting
comes
along
to
bring
it
to
our
attention,
but
I
don't
want
to
say
to
the
city
manager.
R
This
should
be
a
priority
for
you
and
your
new
staff
member
to
go
out
and
look
for
ways
that
we
can.
You
know
energize
development
on
the
lakefront.
I
don't
want
to
do
something,
that's
inconsistent
with
the
plan
and
I
think
that
would
be
inconsistent
with
the
plan.
So
again,
I
I
think
that
we
just
have
to
be
decisive
on
this
and
say:
we've
done
the
plan
and
that's
it
for
right.
Now.
O
I
have
a
fear
that,
while
there's
such
great
leadership
on
the
lakefront
that
certain
things
get
rejected
out
of
hand
because
they
want
to
be
at
the
lakefront,
yet
there
are
other
venues
in
this
town
where
they
might
possibly
fit,
and
I
just
like
to
have
some
information
about
that
and
alderman
wynn.
You
know
you
you
can
put
in
a
note
that
you
don't
want
to
be
told
about
these
things,
but
I
do
want
to
be
told
about
them.
O
I
do
want
to
be
told
about
them
and
I
think
it's
very
narrow-minded
to
say
I
am
I'm
going
to
exclude
every
possibility
who's
talking
about
a
water
park
at
the
lake
nobody's
talking
about
that.
We're
talking
about
activities
that
might
come
to
us
a
water
park,
maybe
at
james
park,
would
be
a
great
idea.
I
think
just
because
you
don't
like
a
water
park
doesn't
mean.
I
think
you
did
not
hear
me
say
no.
I.
O
O
I
believe
this
town
is
missing
because
of
narrow-mindedness,
and
I
don't
want
to
be
a
part
of
it
and
I'm
asking
the
city
manager
and
if
this
is
confusing
to
him
I'll,
be
glad
to
send
him
a
memo.
I
would
like
to
be
told
if
I'm
the
only
one
here
of
any
activities,
events
venue
whatever
that
comes
through
the
parks
and
recreation
department
to
please
let
me
know
about
it,
and
I
don't
you
know
I
don't
mean
a
pta
car
wash.
You
know
what
I'm
talking
about.
V
I
did
want
to
say
that
I
did
not
envision
any
major
43
plus
story
buildings
on
the
lakefront.
That
was
not
in
my
thought,
but
I
do
think
that
we
should
ask
the
city
manager
and
the
new
staff
to
actively
look
at
anything.
That
would
be.
That
would
be
helpful
to
us.
That
would
would
be
within
the
plan.
So
actively
is
for
me
wiley,
if
that
makes
it
clear.
So
I'm
on
the
active
end.
Yes,.
D
T
M
C
Thank
you,
we're
going
to
move
right
into
it
and
the
robert
crown
center
was
built
in
1975
and
ice.
It's
an
ice,
rink
complex,
it's
61,
000
square
feet.
It
has
two
skating
surfaces.
One
skating
surface
is
about
85
by
200
and
the
other
is
about
a
third
of
that
size
and
it's
used
for
primarily
ice
figure
skating.
It's
got
a
full
basketball
court,
dance
studio,
three
multi-purpose
rooms
and
amenities,
including
a
refreshment,
stand
six
locker
rooms
and
storage
equipment.
The
community
center,
the
ice
rink,
are
extremely
popular.
C
The
building
is
heavily
used
up
to
18
to
20
hours
a
day,
seven
days
a
week,
and
it
is
definitely
a
source
of
revenue.
The
evanston
playground
and
recreation
board
has
made
it
a
priority
to
address
evanston's
indoor
recreational
needs
and
the
future
of
robert
crown
center,
because
the
facility
is
no
longer
appropriate
for
its
original
purpose.
Much
less
the
evolving
recreational
needs
of
the
community
for
background
purposes.
C
In
august
of
2003
at
a
human
services
committee
meeting,
the
playground
and
recreation
board
was
directed
to
conduct
a
study
of
users
to
review
current
programming
and
facility
needs
at
the
robert
crown
center
september,
30th
october,
7th,
9th
and
14th
2003.
The
playground
and
recreation
board
gathered
public
enduring
input
during
community
meetings
held
on
these
dates
in
december
of
03.
The
playground
and
recreation
board
made
a
presentation
of
the
human
services
committee,
which
included
information
about
the
building's
major
deficiencies
and
they
were
ada
non-compliant.
C
There's
general
concern
that
the
robert
crown
center
did
not
meet
community
needs
is
noted
from
comments
made
at
the
public
meetings
in
order
to
address
these
concerns,
staff
investigated
six
options
for
facility
renovation
and
reconstruction
option.
One
was
to
develop
a
new
com
expanded
facility
at
robert
crown,
two
was
a
recrea,
a
new
recreation
facility
at
crown
park
and
a
new
ice
complex
at
a
separate
site
somewhere
in
the
city
option
three
was
renovate
an
existing
facility
with
no
program
alterations.
C
Four
was
a
new
facility
at
robert
crown
park
with
minimal
expansion.
Five
was
expanded
and
renovated
existing
facility
at
robert
crown
park
and
six
was
a
modified
existing
facility
and
new
ice
complex
at
a
separate
site.
No
action
was
taken
by
the
council
as
a
result
of
the
work
that
was
performed
in
2003
in
2006
and
2008.
The
human
services
committee
approved
a
request
from
playground
and
recreation
board
to
conduct
a
needs
assessment
of
evanston's
indoor
recreation
space
for
the
community.
C
C
C
C
In
september
of
to
2009,
the
playground
and
recreation
board
created
a
subcommittee
to
work
on
the
robert
crown
center
project.
This
subcommittee
created
a
work
group
that
includes
members
of
the
parks,
foundation,
board
and
evanston
residents.
The
group
began
discussing
a
series
of
fundraising
initiatives.
The
city
also
received
a
750
000
grant
from
the
state
of
illinois.
C
C
The
second
was
to
complete
renovation,
develop
an
rfp
to
study
and
develop
probable
construction
construction
costs
to
completely
renovate
the
existing
center
and
move
to
implement,
and
the
difference
obviously
is
one
is
a
partial
improvements.
The
other
is
complete
and
the
third
option
is
to
develop
a
request
for
information
and
qualifications
from
interested
companies
to
design
build
finance
and
operate
any
one
of
the
four
components
or
all
of
the
four
components
to
reconstruct
the
robert
count
center.
M
We
could,
I
think,
find
interested
parties
that
would
be
interested
in
designing
building
operating
and
financing
of
this
facility,
and
my
recommendation
to
the
council
would
be
to
go
with
option
three,
and
that
is
to
do
a
solicitation
of
those
companies.
Do
it
nationally
get
feedback
at
that
point
and
from
there
then
do
a
specific
request
for
proposal
with
what
evanston
wants
in
this
facility.
I
think
we've
had
interested
parties
come
to
us
with
their
ideas.
I
think
the
eviston
city
council
should
articulate
what
your
ideas
are.
M
I
think
there's
been
lots
of
community
work.
I
think
we
pretty
much
know
what
you
want,
but
again,
I
think,
go
for
the
whole
whole
enchilada
and
try
to
identify
a
company
that
can
partner
with
us
design
the
project
build
the
project,
operate
the
project
and
finance
the
project
at
no
immediate
direct
cost
to
eviston
taxpayers.
S
B
P
I
agree
completely,
this
is
to
me-
and
I
think
hopefully,
most
of
us-
this
is
or
should
be
a
top
priority.
We
are
losing
revenue
opportunities.
This
is
it's
not
just
an
ice
rink.
This
is
a
community
facility.
The
the
facilities
are
woefully
inadequate
for
anybody
who
who
doesn't
spend
time
there.
Perhaps
you
should,
and
hopefully
once
the
new
facility
is
done,
many
more
people
will
do
so
there.
As
I
said,
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
for
increasing
the
revenue
we
have
programming.
There's
daycare.
P
Of
course,
we
wouldn't
have
to
pay
rent
for
that,
and
there's
already
been
some
interest
expressed
from
outside
vendors,
to
perhaps
fund
the
construction
fund,
a
portion
of
the
construction
and
in
exchange
for
operating
these
facilities.
So
I
think
we're
likely
to
get
some
some
excellent
ideas
and
concepts
it's
very
costly
to
operate.
There
could
be
alternatives
that
we
could
look
at.
That
would
be
very
green.
P
A
I
agree
100
with
the
idea
that
we
can't
spend
taxpayer
money
to
do
this
and
there
are
a
lot
of
wonderful
options
and
I've
had
conversations
with
entities
that
might
be
interested
as
well
and
they're
sort
of
very
excited
about
that.
I
also
see
it
as
a
not
just
the
rink
itself,
but
the
awards
around
the
rink
as
an
economic
development
opportunity
if
we're
bringing
people
in
there.
The
idea
of
you
know
in
alderman
john
baptist
board.
A
You've
got
a
lot
of
commercial
right
there
at
that
corner,
be
a
great
opportunity
for
those
businesses
to
expand
and
looking
at
restaurants,
even
you
know
you
have
people
coming
in
for
hockey
tournaments.
You
know.
Staying
in
our
hotels,
I
think
there's
just
a
lot
of
ways
to
look
at
not
just
as
an
a
recreation
facility
but
as
in
a
generator
for
the
for
the
south
side
of
evanston
as
a
destination
point
for
evanstonians,
as
well
as
people
from
the
north
shore.
So
I'm
I'm
pretty
fired
up
about
this
idea.